Housing and Community Development on September 29, 2026

0:58 REDEVELOPMENT.

0:59 TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 29TH,

1:01 2026 AND THE EXACT TIME IS

1:04 10:38 A.M. THIS HEARING IS

1:06 BEING RECORDED.

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1:34 DURING THIS HEARING.

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2:01 ADDED TO THE LIST.

2:03 TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET

2:04 NUMBER 0695.

2:07 ORDER FOR A HEARING ON THE

2:09 STATUS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION

2:11 OF THE CITY OF BOSTON

2:12 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.

2:14 THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY

2:17 COUNCILORS BRIAN MORRELL.

2:18 MANY ARE TO COLE PEPPER AND

2:20 JULIA MEJIA.

2:22 IT WAS REFERRED TO THE

2:23 COMMITTEE ON APRIL 1ST 2026.

2:27 TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY

2:29 COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL.

2:32 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

2:33 COUNCILOR MURPHY

2:35 COUNCIL WORRELL

2:36 COUNCILOR BREADON AND

2:37 COUNCILOR MEJIA.

2:42 AT THIS TIME.

2:43 I'M GOING TO GO DIRECTLY TO

2:46 INTRODUCTIONS OF THE FIRST

2:47 PANEL AND THEN I WILL ALLOW MY

2:51 COLLEAGUES OPENING STATEMENTS

2:52 AND THEN WE CAN GO INTO Q&A.

2:54 UM, OKAY, LET'S START OFF WITH

2:56 MR LINCOLN AND THEN WE CAN WORK

2:58 DOWN THE LINE IF YOU PLEASE

2:59 STATE YOUR NAME AND WHICH

3:01 ORGANIZATION YOU ARE

3:03 REPRESENTING AND THEN WE WILL

3:04 START WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

3:06 SURE.

3:06 UH GOOD MORNING.

3:06 MY NAME.

3:07 IS LINCOLN AND I'M A BOSTON

3:09 TENANT COALITION AND THE

3:10 COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE

3:11 FOR AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THEM FOR

3:12 HOUSING.

3:13 THANK YOU.

3:14 UH.

3:15 JAMES DANIELS.

3:16 PROFESSOR EMERITUS AT TUFTS

3:17 UNIVERSITY AND A MEMBER OF THE

3:19 COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

3:21 I'M NADEEN COHEN.

3:22 I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY

3:25 ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE

3:26 MONITORING COMMITTEE AND A LONG

3:28 TIME FAIR HOUSING ATTORNEY AND

3:31 ADVOCATE.

3:31 HOW ARE YOU DOING?

3:32 OUR MONTE WHITE.

3:33 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT RECLAIM

3:34 ROXBURY, ALSO A MEMBER OF THE

3:36 COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE

3:37 AND THE UH, MONITOR TO ME.

3:38 THANK YOU.

3:39 YEAH.

3:43 OKAY.

3:44 UM, AND AT THIS TIME I JUST

3:45 WANT TO GIVE THE SPONSOR

3:47 OF THIS HEARING COUNCIL ROWE AN

3:48 OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GIVE A

3:49 BRIEF OPENING REMARKS BEFORE

3:51 THE PRESENTATION.

3:52 UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

3:53 THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES.

3:55 THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.

3:56 UH, FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN THIS

3:57 SPACE AND ALSO TO THE, UH,

3:59 ADVOCATES, UH, THAT ARE SEATED

4:01 UM, RIGHT BEHIND UH, THE GROUP

4:04 OF ADVOCATES.

4:05 UM.

4:05 I KNOW.

4:06 WE'VE HAD SEVERAL HEARINGS

4:07 ON THIS TOPIC.

4:07 UH, MANY REQUESTS FOR

4:08 INFORMATION WHICH SHOULD TELL

4:10 US HOW CRUCIAL THE WORK OF FAIR

4:12 HOUSING IS TO ALL OF US IN THIS

4:13 ROOM AND TO ALL OUR RESIDENTS.

4:15 UH, SO I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF

4:16 BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP

4:17 OF ADVOCATES RIGHT IN FRONT

4:18 OF US AND COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO

4:20 JOINED US HERE TODAY WITH A LOT

4:21 OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO

4:22 SHARE.

4:23 SO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

4:25 FOR YOUR WORK.

4:25 LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING AND

4:26 DIVING INTO THE CONVERSATION.

4:28 I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT

4:30 TO STACY, UH, MY POLICY

4:32 DIRECTOR WHO'S BEEN WORKING

4:33 WITH UH, OUR PANELISTS AND OUR

4:35 COMMUNITY LEADERS, UM, AROUND

4:36 FAIR HOUSING AND PULLING THIS,

4:38 UH, HEARING TOGETHER.

4:40 SO BIG SHOUT OUT TO STACY.

4:41 THANK YOU.

4:42 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WORRELL.

4:44 JUST ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

4:45 THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

4:46 COUNCILOR WEBER AND NOW AND

4:48 ALSO FOR THE AUDIENCE.

4:50 FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM

4:51 AN AMAZING COMMUNITY PANEL ON

4:52 ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO.

4:53 AND THEN SECOND PANEL WILL

4:55 CONSIST OF THE AMAZING CITY

4:56 TEAM AS WELL.

4:57 SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT.

4:59 OKAY.

5:00 IT WAS YOURS.

5:02 THANK YOU.

5:03 GOOD MORNING.

5:04 UM FOLKS.

5:04 UH I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE

5:05 FOR BEING HERE.

5:06 I AM GOING TO START THE PANEL

5:07 BY GIVING A BRIEF HISTORY.

5:08 OF THE, UH, THE CAC.

5:10 SO, UM.

5:12 YOU KNOW THE CAC BEGAN.

5:15 IN 20.

5:15 IN 2016.

5:16 AND AND THE WORK I'M GOING TO

5:17 TALK ABOUT REALLY CONTINUED

5:18 THROUGH UM, 2022 AND ADOPTED.

5:21 THE UM ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

5:22 HOUSING.

5:24 SO UH.

5:25 2015 UM THERE'S A UH FH ABOUT A

5:28 RULE.

5:29 WHICH REALLY.

5:29 CODIFIED SOME OF THE UM, UH,

5:31 FAIR HOUSING IN TERMS OF UM.

5:33 HAVING A DISTINCT ASSESSMENT

5:34 OF FAIR HOUSING AND SOME REAL

5:35 TOOLS AROUND HOW.

5:36 TO HOW TO ACTUALLY UM, MAKE.

5:38 UP FOR SOME REAL TOOLS.

5:39 INTO UM HOW.

5:40 CITIES ACTUALLY DETERMINED.

5:42 AND ASSESSED.

5:44 THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE

5:45 WORK.

5:45 TO FURTHER FAIR HOUSING.

5:48 SO UM.

5:48 IN 2016.

5:49 MAYOR WALSH UH.

5:50 ASSEMBLED A.

5:51 A GROUP OF COMMUNITY ADVOCATES

5:54 TO.

5:54 HELP.

5:54 THE CITY, UH.

5:55 WORK ON THE DRAFTING, UM AND

5:57 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.

5:58 AND SO, UH, ORAL REALLY WAS TO

6:00 REPRESENT THE CITY AND HELP

6:02 THE.

6:02 CITY IN THE DRAFT.

6:04 UM.

6:04 THIS.

6:05 BODY EVENTUALLY.

6:05 BECAME THE BODY YOU SEE TODAY,

6:07 WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY

6:08 COMMITTEE.

6:08 FOR AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THE

6:09 FAIR HOUSING.

6:11 SO THIS IS A THIS REALLY WAS A.

6:12 CLASSIC EXAMPLE.

6:13 OF OF A CITY COMING INTO

6:14 PARTNERSHIP.

6:15 THE THE CITY.

6:16 COMPONENT UM CONSISTED.

6:17 OF UH.

6:18 UM SHEILA DILLON FROM THEN THE

6:20 AND AND UM MAYOR'S OFFICE

6:21 OF HOUSING.

6:23 UM OFFICE OF.

6:24 FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.

6:26 UH BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND

6:27 BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH

6:28 COMMISSION.

6:28 I THINK LATER ON IN THE PROCESS

6:30 OTHER.

6:30 OTHER UM DEPARTMENTS.

6:31 JOINED IN.

6:32 BUT THOSE WERE THE INITIAL

6:33 INITIAL TEAMS.

6:33 THAT REALLY FORMED.

6:35 UH THE THE INITIATIVE.

6:37 TO DRAFT AND.

6:38 THE CAC WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE

6:41 AN ANCHORED.

6:41 BY BOSTON TALENT COALITION.

6:42 WHICH IS LED BY.

6:43 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KATHY BROWN

6:45 .

6:45 THIS THIS CAC ALSO.

6:47 INCLUDES OR HAS INCLUDED

6:48 ROXBURY NEIGHBOR COUNCIL,

6:51 CHARLES HAMILTON.

6:51 HOUSTON INSTITUTE OF RACE AND

6:54 JUSTICE.

6:54 LED BY DAVID HARRIS OF HARVARD

6:56 UNIVERSITY, GREATER BOSTON

6:57 LEGAL SERVICES ALTERNATIVES FOR

6:59 COMMUNITY.

6:59 AND ENVIRONMENT TO RECLAIM

7:00 ROXBURY HIGHER GROUND ON THE

7:01 FAMILY.

7:02 LAWYERS COMMITTEE.

7:03 UH, IF YOU'RE IN THE CENTER

7:05 OF GREATER BOSTON.

7:05 THEY DIDN'T COIN A.

7:07 MERIDA OF BOSTON LEGAL SERVICES

7:08 AND PROFESSOR JAMES UH JENNINGS

7:10 UH EMERITUS PROFESSOR UH MERIDA

7:13 STUFF UH.

7:15 TUFTS UNIVERSITY.

7:16 SO PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT.

7:18 WHAT WE.

7:19 DID WAS.

7:19 WE WANTED TO.

7:20 ENSURE THAT THE APPROACH WAS

7:22 INFORMED BY PEOPLE.

7:23 UM, IMPACTED.

7:26 BY THE.

7:26 STRUGGLES AND CHALLENGES OF OF

7:27 UH OF UM A FAIR HOUSING.

7:30 SO IN THAT.

7:30 EFFORT UM THROUGH.

7:32 BOSTON TALENT COALITION WE

7:33 ORGANIZED 14.

7:35 UH.

7:35 COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH 35

7:37 OTHER UH CBOS AND COMMUNITY

7:38 PARTNERS TO.

7:40 REALLY GET.

7:40 INPUT AND FEEDBACK.

7:41 FROM COMMUNITIES RELATIVE TO

7:42 WHAT WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES AND

7:43 EXPERIENCES WERE.

7:44 AROUND A FAIR HOUSING.

7:46 UM, SO.

7:47 THERE'S 14 MEETINGS.

7:48 WE HAD ABOUT 500 ATTENDEES.

7:50 UM.

7:51 THE THE FORMAT WAS.

7:53 DESIGNED AROUND UH.

7:54 A SURVEY THAT.

7:55 REALLY KIND OF TEASED OUT.

7:56 SOME OF THE FAIR HOUSING

7:57 CONCERNS.

7:57 AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

7:59 TALK THROUGH WHAT WAS GOING ON.

8:00 SO WE HAD THOSE SURVEYS.

8:01 ,500 SURVEYS THAT UM.

8:02 BOTH THE.

8:03 BOSTON UH HOUSING AUTHORITY

8:05 ALSO.

8:05 FROM THEIR.

8:06 CONSTITUENTS UM GENERATED TWO.

8:07 UH 2000 SURVEYS.

8:09 SO UH WE WERE ABLE TO

8:11 TRANSCRIBE.

8:12 THE INFORMATION FROM THE

8:13 SURVEYS.

8:14 AND THAT DATA UM, INFORMED.

8:18 THE THE A AT.

8:19 THE PAGE AND WHAT I MEAN BY

8:20 THAT THAT THAT INFORMED THE F

8:22 H.

8:22 IS THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT

8:24 FOR US THAT.

8:25 THE POLICIES THAT.

8:27 CAME OUT.

8:27 AT THE PACE.

8:28 WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY PEOPLE

8:30 .

8:30 MOST IMPACTED BY IT AND ALSO

8:32 WANTED TO KIND OF RECOGNIZE

8:33 PROFESSOR JAMES.

8:34 HIS RIGHT HERE WHO WAS.

8:35 INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THE

8:36 CITY CRAFT AND DRAFT THAT UH

8:38 THAT.

8:38 THAT A F.

8:40 H AND UM THE.

8:42 REASON THAT WAS PARTICULARLY

8:43 IMPORTANT IS THAT JAMES REALLY.

8:44 FOCUSED ON AND PRIORITIZING.

8:46 THIS COMMUNITY.

8:47 COMMUNITY GENERATED DATA.

8:48 SO AND THAT'S A REALLY.

8:50 CRITICAL ASPECT.

8:50 OF THE PAGE.

8:52 SO UM I ALSO WANT TO WANT TO

8:54 RECOGNIZE NAMES UH CANDY

8:55 CARDENAS PASS FROM.

8:57 UH BTC.

8:58 BOSTON TALENT COALITION.

8:59 WHO DID ALL THE TRANSCRIBING

9:02 OF 2500 UM SURVEYS.

9:03 IT'S A LOT.

9:04 OF WORK.

9:04 UH, SO UM.

9:05 SHOUT OUT TO CANDACE.

9:06 UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.

9:08 INSTEAD OF GOING.

9:08 OVER A LOT MORE DETAILS ALL

9:11 THIS FOCUS ON SOME.

9:11 HIGHLIGHTS UM.

9:12 FROM THE CAC.

9:13 SO WITH UH.

9:16 SO IN THE SPRING.

9:16 AND SUMMER OF 2017.

9:18 WE TALKED ABOUT THE 14

9:20 COMMUNITY MEETINGS.

9:22 UM WE ALSO HAD A.

9:23 VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IN 2020 TO.

9:24 REPORT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY

9:26 AND THE WORK THAT THE CAC HAD

9:27 BEEN DOING.

9:28 AND WORKING WITH THE CITY ON

9:29 AS WE KIND OF MOVE.

9:30 FORWARD TO.

9:31 UM, DRAFT AND A FINAL A FINAL

9:33 EFFORT AT THAT WHICH UM

9:37 DECEMBER 9TH.

9:38 2020 WAS A.

9:39 UNANIMOUS DECISION BY THE.

9:40 CITY COUNCIL.

9:41 TO UH.

9:42 TO AMEND THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

9:44 TO INCLUDE UH FAIR.

9:45 HOUSING AND ANTI DISPLACEMENT

9:46 LANGUAGE.

9:46 REALLY THIS WAS REALLY WAS THE

9:48 FIRST UH THE FIRST.

9:49 IN THE NATION SUCH.

9:51 UM LEGISLATION UM EFFORT.

9:52 SO THAT WAS ARE.

9:54 REALLY AND ALSO THE THE ZONING

9:55 AMENDMENT WAS REALLY.

9:57 GOAL 7.1 OF THE F EIGHT.

9:59 SO IT.

10:00 REALLY WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.

10:01 FOR THE.

10:02 COMMUNITY AND CITY.

10:03 LEGISLATOR TO KIND OF.

10:05 WORK TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL.

10:07 AND THAT.

10:08 WAS UH FULFILLED.

10:09 BY THE UNANIMOUS PASSING

10:10 OF THE ZONING AMENDMENT.

10:15 UM AUGUST 6TH, 2021 THE CAC

10:16 SENT A FAIR HOUSING.

10:17 QUESTIONNAIRE TO UH THE FIVE.

10:19 CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR MAYOR

10:20 AFTER UM UH MAYOR WASSERMAN TO

10:22 WASHINGTON UM TO UM.

10:25 FIVE OF.

10:26 THE COUNCILS RESPONDED.

10:29 UM, TWO OF THEM.

10:30 ACTUALLY RESPONDED CENTER

10:32 RECEIVED THE SURVEY, THE

10:33 QUESTIONNAIRE.

10:34 THE TWO FINAL UH CANDIDATES UH.

10:37 COUNCIL SABI GEORGE.

10:37 AND UM AND COUNCILOR.

10:39 WU ACTUALLY RESPONDED IN DETAIL

10:42 AND MAYOR WHO ACTUALLY AS A

10:45 CANDIDATE COMMITTED.

10:45 TO TO ADOPTING THE A F H BY

10:48 EXECUTIVE ORDER SHOULD SHE.

10:50 UM WIN TO WIN THE UH.

10:52 MAYOR'S RACE BUT SHE DID.

10:53 IN FACT DO WITHIN THREE

10:54 MONTHS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THREE

10:55 MONTHS UP OUR ADMINISTRATION.

10:59 THE THE.

11:02 THE UM A.

11:04 F A PAGE ALSO INCLUDED AN.

11:06 EXECUTIVE ORDER DRAFTED.

11:07 BY THE CAC THAT.

11:08 THAT THAT BUILT.

11:09 INTO A MONITORING COMMITTEE

11:10 TO TO UH TO MONITOR.

11:12 THE PROGRESS OF THE.

11:14 UM AT THE F H AND THE.

11:16 LAST THING I WANT TO FOCUS

11:17 ON IT WAS.

11:18 PART OF UH.

11:19 GO 7.1 WAS.

11:20 UH BP WHEN AN.

11:22 AUDIT OF THE BPD.

11:23 PLANNING OFFICE.

11:24 IN TERMS OF THEIR FAIR.

11:25 HOUSING POLICIES AND HAPPY TO

11:28 UM, JUST ANNOUNCED THAT.

11:30 THE THE BPD DID IN.

11:32 FACT HIRE CONSULTANT AND IS

11:33 CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND

11:35 COMPLETED THAT AUDIT.

11:36 UM SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MADE

11:37 ME ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT IN.

11:38 THE TALKING POINTS.

11:39 BUT UM THE LAST.

11:40 ONE I.

11:41 WILL SAY.

11:41 THIS THE CAC AND THE CITY.

11:43 PARTNERSHIP IN MY IN MY VIEW.

11:44 WAS A CLASSIC.

11:45 TEXTBOOK UM, EXAMPLE.

11:47 OF THE.

11:47 VALUE OF HAVING A COMMUNITY.

11:50 AND.

11:51 A CITY PARTNERSHIP.

11:52 UH THANK YOU.

11:53 THANK YOU.

11:55 WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

11:56 UH, LINKING.

11:57 FOR THAT, UH.

11:59 CONCISE HISTORY.

12:00 THANK YOU.

12:01 A LOT OF PIECES.

12:01 THAT YOU.

12:02 DIDN'T TOUCH UPON BUT BUT

12:03 YOU.

12:04 PROVIDED A REALLY.

12:04 IMPORTANT FRAMEWORK.

12:06 UH, MY ROLE TODAY IS TO.

12:08 HIGHLIGHT A FEW BOSTON

12:09 VICTORIES REGARDING.

12:10 FAIR HOUSING.

12:11 BUT ALSO MENTIONED BRIEFLY

12:14 CONTINUING AND CURRENT.

12:15 CHALLENGES FACING AFFIRMATIVELY

12:17 FURTHERING.

12:17 FAIR HOUSING.

12:18 IN THE CITY.

12:19 THE ADOPTION OF THE BOSTON

12:21 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING IN

12:23 2022, AS LINCOLN MENTIONED, IS

12:25 AN IMPORTANT VICTORY FOR THE

12:26 CITY IN MASSACHUSETTS.

12:28 A FH WAS BASED ON A

12:30 COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF SOCIAL

12:32 ,ECONOMIC AND RACIAL

12:34 DISPARITIES AND HOW THEY SHOULD

12:35 BE ADDRESSED WHEN USING A FAIR

12:37 HOUSING LENS AS REQUIRED BY LAW

12:40 .

12:40 AND SUPPORTED CONSTITUTIONALLY

12:43 BY NUMEROUS COURTS AND US

12:44 SUPREME COURT DECISIONS

12:46 BEGINNING WITH THE JONES

12:47 DECISION IN 1968 AND THE

12:49 ONTARIO DECISION IN 1973 AND

12:52 OTHER JUDICIAL.

12:53 DECISIONS SINCE.

12:55 THE OFFICIAL ADOPTION OF FH.

12:58 WAS IN LARGE PART.

12:59 A RESULT OF EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY

13:01 ORGANIZING THROUGHOUT BOSTON

13:03 SPEARHEADED BY THE CAC AND

13:05 OTHERS, MANY COMMUNITY BASED

13:06 ORGANIZATIONS, HOUSING.

13:08 ACTIVISTS AND ESPECIALLY THE

13:09 BOSTON TENANTS COALITION AND

13:11 THE CAC CONTRIBUTED TO THE

13:13 INITIATION AND.

13:14 COMPLETION OF THE FH.

13:17 AS WE KNOW, THE ADOPTION

13:19 OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

13:20 FAIR HOUSING INTO BOSTON'S

13:22 ZONING CODE WAS YET ANOTHER

13:24 MAJOR VICTORY AND MOVED THE

13:25 CITY CLOSER TO A.

13:27 STRONGER AND.

13:28 COMPREHENSIVE FAIR HOUSING

13:29 MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT IN

13:32 IN 2019, THEN CITY

13:34 COUNCILOR LYDIA EDWARDS

13:36 INTRODUCED AN AMENDMENT TO

13:38 INCORPORATE FAIR HOUSING INTO

13:39 THE CITY'S ZONING CODE.

13:42 SUBSEQUENTLY, THIS STRATEGY WAS

13:43 ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND

13:45 ENDORSED BY MAIL WASH.

13:47 UH IN 2021, THE HIGHLY

13:49 RECOGNIZED SHELTER FORCE

13:51 MAGAZINE UH PUBLISHED A

13:53 NATIONAL STORY ABOUT THIS

13:55 VICTORY, DESCRIBING BOSTON AS

13:57 THE FIRST MAJOR CITY TO DO SO

14:00 THAT IS CONJOINING ZONING AND

14:03 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

14:04 HOUSING.

14:07 IN JANUARY 2022, MAYOR WHO

14:08 ISSUE AN HISTORICALLY

14:09 SIGNIFICANT EXECUTIVE ORDER AS

14:11 YOU MENTIONED LINKING AN

14:13 EXECUTIVE ORDER RELATIVE TO

14:14 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

14:15 HOUSING AND THE IMPLEMENTATION

14:18 OF THE CITY OF BOSTON'S

14:20 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.

14:21 THIS EO ESTABLISH A MODERATING

14:24 COMMITTEE CHARGED WITH MEETING

14:26 QUARTERLY WITH CITY AGENCIES TO

14:28 REVIEW PROGRESS OR LACK

14:29 OF PROGRESS IN THE

14:31 IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 14 GOALS

14:33 OUTLINED IN THE ADOPTED FH.

14:35 THIS WAS A REMARKABLE

14:37 ACHIEVEMENT GIVEN THAT IN AN

14:39 HISTORICALLY HIGHLY SEGREGATED

14:40 SEGREGATED CITY.

14:41 ITS ZONING.

14:42 CODES AND REGULATIONS WERE

14:44 DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED

14:46 WITHOUT ANY MENTION OF FAIR

14:48 HOUSING OBLIGATIONS WHATSOEVER.

14:50 OVER MANY DECADES SINCE THE

14:52 FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968.

14:55 IN JUNE 2025 THE BOSTON CITY

14:58 COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED ONE

14:59 MEMBER ABSENT A RESOLUTION

15:01 ENDORSING AFFIRMATIVELY

15:03 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.

15:04 THIS REPRESENTED ANOTHER

15:07 SIGNIFICANT TURNING POINT IN

15:09 BOSTON.

15:09 IT WAS THE BOSTON CITY

15:11 COUNCIL'S STRONG AFFIRMATION

15:13 ABOUT THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT

15:15 ADVANCING AFFIRMATIVELY

15:16 FURTHERING FOR HOUSING IS FOR

15:18 THE CITY.

15:19 VERY IMPORTANTLY, IT ALSO

15:20 STRENGTHENED THE CORE FOR

15:22 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

15:23 HOUSING DURING A PERIOD

15:25 OF RETREAT ON THE PART OF THE

15:27 CURRENT NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION

15:29 .

15:29 PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT

15:31 VICTORY FOR FAIR HOUSING,

15:32 HOWEVER, IS THE GREATER PUBLIC

15:35 AWARENESS TODAY ABOUT WHAT FAIR

15:36 HOUSING IS INCLUDING ITS INTO

15:39 SECTORAL IMPLICATIONS.

15:41 MORE ORGANIZATIONS AND

15:42 RESIDENTS ARE ASKING WHAT THE

15:45 FAIR HOUSING IMPLICATIONS

15:47 OF POLICIES AND DECISIONS ARE

15:49 ACROSS MULTIPLE AREAS INCLUDING

15:51 TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC HEALTH,

15:53 THE ENVIRONMENT, BUSINESS AND

15:55 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

15:57 DESPITE THESE VICTORIES, THERE

15:58 ARE STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES THAT

16:00 MUST BE CONTINUED TO BE

16:01 ADDRESSED TO ENSURE THAT

16:02 EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO DECENT

16:04 AND SUSTAINED AFFORDABLE

16:07 HOUSING AND NOT SUFFER FROM

16:08 HOUSING INSECURITY.

16:09 HIGH INTEREST RATES,

16:11 CONSTRUCTION COST, THE SUPPLY

16:13 OF HOUSING, HIGH HOUSING COST

16:15 AND THE INSECURE ECONOMIC

16:17 SITUATION FACING THOUSANDS

16:19 OF BOSTON FAMILIES EXACERBATE

16:22 BOSTON'S DEEP HOUSING

16:23 AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.

16:25 AS I MENTIONED IN MY MARCH 6TH,

16:27 2026 TESTIMONY TO THIS BODY'S

16:29 COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,

16:30 RACIAL EQUALITY AND IMMIGRANT

16:32 ADVANCEMENT, LARGE PROPORTIONS

16:34 OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE SEVERELY

16:37 HOUSING COST BURDEN AND SPEND

16:39 50% OR MORE OF ANNUAL INCOME ON

16:41 HOUSING.

16:43 APPROXIMATELY 30% OF RENTER

16:44 BLACK HOUSEHOLDS SPEND MORE

16:46 THAN HALF OF THEIR INCOME ON

16:47 HOUSING COSTS.

16:49 THE FIGURE FOR ASIAN HOUSEHOLDS

16:51 IS 24%, ALMOST 25% FOR LATINO

16:54 OR LATINO RENTERS AND 19% FOR

16:56 WHITES.

16:57 ANOTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP WHO

16:59 WOULD SEE CONSIDERABLY LESS

17:01 ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE AND DECENT

17:03 AND DECENT HOUSING.

17:04 ABSENT CONTINUING STRONG

17:06 COMMITMENT TO AFFIRMATIVELY

17:07 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ARE THE

17:09 THOUSANDS OF BOSTONIANS WHO

17:11 LIVE UNDER THE OFFICIAL.

17:13 FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINES.

17:16 AS WE PURSUE ECONOMIC

17:17 DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGIES TO

17:19 RESPOND TO THE CITY'S HOUSING

17:20 CRISIS, WE CANNOT FORGET THAT

17:23 THESE ARE THE PEOPLE AND

17:24 FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE LEFT OUT

17:26 OF DECENT AND AFFORDABLE

17:27 HOUSING.

17:28 ABSENT A STRONG AFFIRMATIVELY

17:30 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING LENS,

17:32 THESE KINDS OF CHALLENGES MUST

17:34 BE ADDRESSED.

17:34 WITHOUT THIS, WITHOUT

17:36 SACRIFICING THE MOMENTUM THAT

17:38 WE HAVE TAPPED.

17:39 THUS FAR.

17:41 SADLY, AS THE CITY SEEKS TO

17:43 RESPOND TO THESE KINDS

17:44 OF CHALLENGES POLITICAL AND

17:46 IDEOLOGICAL ATTACKS AIMED AT

17:48 WEAKENING FURTHERING FAIR.

17:49 HOUSING HAVE EMERGED FROM THE

17:51 CURRENT NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION

17:53 UNDER THE TRUMP

17:54 ADMINISTRATION'S APRIL 2025

17:56 EXECUTIVE ORDER 14 TO 81

17:59 RESTORING RESTORING EQUALITY

18:02 OF OPPORTUNITY AND MERITOCRACY.

18:04 HUD HAS SOUGHT TO WEAKEN A

18:07 WEAKEN A CRITICAL TOOL

18:09 OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

18:10 FAIR HOUSING AND DISPARATE

18:11 IMPACT.

18:12 THIS ACTION REPRESENTS A BOLD

18:15 VIOLATION OF NUMEROUS JUDICIARY

18:17 AND U.S. SUPREME COURT

18:18 DECISIONS OVER DECADES, AND IN

18:22 SEPTEMBER 2025, HUD ATTEMPTED

18:23 TO WEAKEN THE OFFICE OF FAIR

18:25 HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY

18:27 ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATIONS

18:28 THAT ARE AIMED AT PROTECTING

18:30 AGAINST UNINTENTIONAL BUT REAL

18:31 AND IMPACTFUL DISCRIMINATION.

18:34 IT SOUGHT TO NARROW THE

18:35 ENFORCEMENT PURVIEW OF THIS

18:37 AGENCY AND DRASTICALLY CUT

18:39 FUNDING.

18:40 IT CAUSED A WEAKENING

18:41 OF SUPPORT FOR PROTECTIONS

18:42 TOUCHING LIMITED ENGLISH

18:44 PROFICIENCY, CRIMINAL HISTORY

18:45 AND TENANT SELECTION AND SOURCE

18:47 OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION.

18:49 BOSTON MUST CONTINUE TO FIGHT

18:50 BACK LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY.

18:52 WE HAVE ALREADY WON KEY

18:54 VICTORIES IN RESPONSE TO THESE

18:56 IDEOLOGICAL, POLITICALLY AND

18:58 EVEN RACIST ATTACKS.

19:00 IN MARCH 2026 SIX FOR EXAMPLE,

19:04 IN MARCH 20TH 2616 STATES SUED

19:05 HUD'S PROPOSED CHANGES AIMED AT

19:07 WEAKENING THE FAIR HOUSING

19:09 PROGRAM JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO,

19:11 COURT COMPLETELY WITHDREW ITS

19:14 ONEROUS PROPOSALS BECAUSE

19:15 OF THIS LEGAL SUIT.

19:16 AS NOTED IN THE PRESS RELEASE

19:18 BY THE MASSACHUSETTS OFFICE

19:19 OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON NINE

19:22 926 QUOTE FACED WITH THE

19:24 LITIGATION, THE TRUMP

19:26 ADMINISTRATION HAS CONFIRMED

19:27 THAT IT NO LONGER SEEKS TO

19:29 IMPOSE, IMPLEMENT OR ENFORCE

19:31 THE CHALLENGED CONDITIONS IN

19:32 THE FUTURE AND THAT OF THE

19:34 FISCAL YEAR 2025 GUIDANCE UP

19:37 BUT ALSO CONFIRMED THE

19:39 CONDITIONS WILL NOT APPLY TO

19:41 FISCAL YEAR 2026 FUNDING AND

19:43 THAT HUD DOES NOT PLAN TO

19:44 INCLUDE THEM IN FUTURE GUIDANCE

19:46 AND OF QUOTE, WE SHOULD TAKE

19:48 STOCK OF HOW OTHER CITIES

19:50 ACROSS THE NATION ARE ALSO

19:52 FIGHTING EFFORTS TO DESTROY THE

19:54 SOCIAL AND RACIAL PROGRESS THAT

19:55 NOT JUST THE CITY HAS BEEN

19:57 MAKING BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE

19:59 COUNTRY.

19:59 SO LET ME STOP THERE.

20:01 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN

20:02 IN ALLOWING ME TO MAKE THESE

20:03 COMMENTS.

20:04 AND MY COLLEAGUES MAY HAVE MORE

20:06 SPECIFICS ABOUT SOME OF THE

20:08 ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN

20:09 DISCUSSING.

20:11 THANK YOU JAMES.

20:12 I'M NADEEN COHEN, A MEMBER

20:15 OF THE CAC AND THE MONITORING

20:17 COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO THANK

20:20 COUNCILOR WORRELL AND OTHERS

20:21 FOR ORGANIZING THIS REALLY

20:23 IMPORTANT HEARING AND THANKING

20:24 ALL THE COUNCILORS FOR

20:27 ATTENDING.

20:27 I WILL FOCUS ON WHAT SPECIFIC

20:30 STEPS THE CAC RECOMMENDS THE

20:33 CITY SHOULD BE TAKING TO ENSURE

20:36 IT COMPLIES WITH ITS FAIR

20:37 HOUSING OBLIGATIONS UNDER STATE

20:39 AND FEDERAL LAW UNDER MAYOR

20:42 WU'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.

20:44 UNDER THIS COUNCIL'S

20:46 RESOLUTIONS AND UNDER THE

20:48 CITY'S ZONING CODE.

20:50 BUT BEFORE I BEGIN, I WANT TO

20:52 VERY BRIEFLY REMIND US THAT THE

20:55 CITY OF BOSTON'S FAIR HOUSING

20:57 COMMISSION WAS ORDERED BY THE

20:59 FEDERAL COURT IN THE CASE THAT

21:02 THE NAACP BROUGHT AGAINST HUD

21:05 IN THE 1980S TO PROVIDE

21:09 EFFECTIVE FAIR HOUSING

21:11 ENFORCEMENT TO RESIDENTS OF THE

21:13 CITY.

21:14 IN THAT CASE, HUD WAS FOUND TO

21:16 HAVE FAILED TO MEET ITS DUTY TO

21:20 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR

21:22 HOUSING BY FAILING TO ENSURE

21:25 THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON

21:28 COMPLIED WITH ITS FAIR HOUSING

21:31 OBLIGATIONS.

21:31 THE CITY OF BOSTON'S FAIR

21:33 HOUSING COMMISSION WAS

21:35 EXPLICITLY REQUIRED TO ENFORCE

21:37 FAIR HOUSING LAWS, MAINTAIN A

21:40 ROBUST COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION

21:42 SYSTEM AND CONDUCT A MINORITY

21:45 NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND IDENTIFY

21:48 BARRIERS TO HOUSING FACED BY

21:51 MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS.

21:52 IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND

21:54 THAT WE ARE PART OF A LONG

21:57 HISTORY OF TRYING TO ENSURE

21:59 THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE EQUAL

22:01 HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT

22:03 THE CITY AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERS

22:05 FAIR HOUSING IN ALL OF ITS

22:08 PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND

22:10 DECISIONS.

22:12 SO WHAT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY

22:15 COMMITTEE ON AFFIRMATIVELY

22:17 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING WOULD

22:18 LIKE TO SEE THE CITY DO IS ONE

22:22 RESUME THE EQUITY AUDIT THAT'S

22:26 REQUIRED UNDER THE ASSESSMENT

22:27 OF FAIR HOUSING.

22:29 WITHOUT THIS WE DO NOT CLEARLY

22:31 KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT FAIR

22:33 HOUSING NEEDS ARE AND HOW WELL

22:36 THE CITY IS DOING IN MEETING

22:38 THOSE NEEDS.

22:39 AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE

22:41 DO APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY IS

22:43 IN A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE OF THE

22:45 HUD INVESTIGATION, BUT WE

22:48 REALLY THINK PLANS HAVE TO BE

22:50 MADE TO RESTART UH, THE EQUITY

22:53 AUDIT THAT WAS BEGUN.

22:55 WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE

22:57 CITY FILL THE POSITION OF THE

22:59 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE

23:01 OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

23:02 EQUITY.

23:03 THIS POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT

23:06 SINCE THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF BOB

23:09 TERRELL IN JANUARY 2025.

23:13 THERE ARE ALSO OTHER LONG

23:15 STANDING VACANCIES AT THE FAIR

23:18 HOUSING LAW OFFICE, INCLUDING

23:19 THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION AND

23:22 OUTREACH AND A POLICY A PUBLIC

23:24 POLICY MANAGER WHO WOULD BE THE

23:27 PERSON IN CHARGE

23:28 OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

23:30 FAIR HOUSING WORK.

23:31 THE OFFICE NEEDS A DEDICATED

23:34 POLICY PERSON WHO WILL BE

23:37 PROACTIVE.

23:38 WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE OFFICE

23:40 OF FAIR HOUSING IS NOT GETTING

23:42 THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT THAT

23:45 IT NEEDS TO LEAD THE CITY'S

23:47 FAIR HOUSING EFFORTS.

23:49 AND WE'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE

23:51 CITY'S PLANS ARE FOR HIRING,

23:53 UH, FOR THE OFFICE.

23:54 WHAT IS THE TIMELINE AND WHAT'S

23:57 THE PLAN FOR SUSTAINING AND

24:00 SUPPORTING?

24:01 UH, THE, UH OFFICE THE CIC

24:06 BELIEVES THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE

24:07 A POINT PERSON IN THE CITY TO

24:10 LEAD AND COORDINATE THE CITY'S

24:13 FAIR HOUSING WORK.

24:16 CURRENTLY THERE IS A LACK

24:18 OF COORDINATION AND LEADERSHIP

24:19 .

24:20 WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF FAIR

24:21 HOUSING, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

24:23 OF HOUSING, THE PLANNING

24:25 DEPARTMENT, THE BA ALL HAVING

24:28 SOME FAIR HOUSING

24:31 RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT

24:32 SOMEONE WHOSE MAIN ROLE IS TO

24:35 ENSURE ALL THE FAIR HOUSING

24:36 WORK IS GETTING DONE IN A

24:39 COORDINATED MANNER.

24:40 FAIR HOUSING CAN AND DOES FALL

24:43 THROUGH THE CRACKS.

24:44 FAIR HOUSING NEEDS TO BE A

24:47 PRIORITY FOR THE CITY AND NEEDS

24:49 A STRONG INNOVATIVE LEAD OR THE

24:53 MONITORING COMMITTEE WHICH MY

24:56 UM COLLEAGUES HAVE TALKED ABOUT

24:57 THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE

25:00 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING HAS

25:03 NOT MET FOR A WHILE AND NEEDS

25:05 TO GET BACK TO REGULAR MEETING

25:07 UH, MEETINGS.

25:09 IT IS UNCLEAR RIGHT NOW WHO THE

25:12 PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IS.

25:14 THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

25:18 SAYS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

25:19 OF THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING

25:22 IS TO CHAIR THE MONITORING

25:24 COMMITTEE.

25:24 BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO UH, EAD

25:27 FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.

25:29 TIME IS TRULY OF THE ESSENCE.

25:32 HOUSING IS BEING BUILT AND WE

25:34 NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL NEW

25:37 HOUSING MEETS FAIR HOUSING

25:39 REQUIREMENTS.

25:41 AS UM JAMES AND LINCOLN HAVE

25:44 SAID, THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS

25:46 BEEN A NATIONAL LEADER IN FAIR

25:50 HOUSING.

25:50 IT WAS THE FIRST CITY TO PASS

25:53 THE FH AMENDMENT WITH ZONING

25:56 CODE AND HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN A

25:57 STRONG EXECUTIVE ORDER ADOPTING

26:00 THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

26:02 AT A TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL

26:04 GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO RENEGE

26:06 ON ALL ITS FAIR HOUSING

26:08 COMMITTEE COMMITMENTS.

26:10 THE CITY MUST HOLD FIRM, LEAD

26:13 THE WAY AND BE A MODEL FOR

26:15 OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY

26:17 .

26:17 THANK YOU.

26:20 AWESOME.

26:21 GREAT.

26:22 SO UM.

26:24 MY NAME IS ARMANI WHITE AND I'M

26:25 THE, UH, CO-FOUNDER AND

26:26 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RECLAIM

26:28 ROXBURY.

26:28 AND UM, LIKE MY OTHER ADVOCATES

26:30 HERE, I SERVE ON THE, UH,

26:32 CITY'S AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

26:33 FAIR HOUSING COMMUNITY ADVISORY

26:35 COMMITTEE.

26:35 IT'S A MOUTHFUL BUT IMPORTANT

26:37 TO KNOW.

26:37 UH, RECLAIM ROXBURY INVOLVEMENT

26:39 IN THE WORK GOES BACK TO 2015.

26:41 UH, WHEN WE HELPED SHAPE THE

26:42 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

26:44 EFFORT THAT WAS LED BY THE

26:45 BOSTON TENANT COALITION THAT

26:46 LINCOLN AND OTHERS HERE

26:47 MENTIONED.

26:48 UH, RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY

26:50 ORGANIZERS UH, BACK THEN WERE

26:51 PRESSING BOSTON TO TAKE ITS

26:52 OBLIGATION TO ADVOCATE

26:54 SERIOUSLY.

26:55 AND SO I'M PROUD TO SEE THAT,

26:56 YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS WORKING

26:58 TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS

26:59 TODAY.

26:59 UH, AND SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE

27:01 WHAT BOSTON HAS DONE.

27:02 BEFORE I GET INTO WHAT THEY

27:03 NEED TO DO BETTER.

27:03 UM, SO THE CITY HAS MADE FAIR

27:05 HOUSING A PART OF ITS

27:06 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND

27:07 ESTABLISHED A COMMUNITY

27:08 ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WE'VE

27:09 MENTIONED AND A MODERN

27:10 COMMITTEE, UH, CREATING A ROLE

27:12 FOR RESIDENTS.

27:13 AND IT HAS ADOPTED AN ANTI

27:15 DISPLACEMENT ACTION PLAN UH,

27:16 WHICH WE BEGAN PILOTING, YOU

27:18 KNOW, DIRECT DISPLACEMENT

27:19 DISCLOSURES UH, ASKING

27:21 DEVELOPERS TO IDENTIFY WHEN A

27:22 PROJECT COULD FORCE PEOPLE FROM

27:23 THEIR HOMES AND LOCAL

27:24 BUSINESSES.

27:25 UM, AND THOSE ARE MEANINGFUL

27:27 STEPS.

27:27 AND SO THE OFFICE OF FAIR

27:28 HOUSING AND EQUITY ALSO PLAYS

27:30 AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN

27:31 INVESTIGATING DISCRIMINATION

27:32 AND TESTING, UH, WHETHER PEOPLE

27:34 ARE ACTUALLY BEING TREATED

27:35 FAIRLY WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING

27:37 FOR HOUSING, WHICH WE KNOW IS

27:38 SO IMPORTANT IN THE CITY WHERE

27:39 SO MANY SECTION EIGHT HOLDERS

27:40 AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR UH,

27:42 FOR RENT.

27:43 UM AND SO I'M GLAD DOING WHAT'S

27:45 IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TODAY

27:46 ON THE PANEL BECAUSE HE HAS

27:47 BEEN A PART OF THIS WORK FOR

27:48 MANY YEARS AND IS A PART OF THE

27:50 ESSENTIAL KIND OF UM, PART

27:51 OF HOW THAT OFFICE FUNCTIONS.

27:53 AND UM, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO

27:56 HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE WHILE WE

27:57 ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO

27:58 BE IMPROVED.

27:59 UH, AND I APPRECIATE MAYOR RULE

28:00 AND ADMINISTRATION STANDING UP

28:02 TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S

28:02 ATTACKS ON BOSTON'S HOUSING

28:04 EQUITY WORK.

28:05 AS YOU HEARD I MENTIONED.

28:06 UM, THE, UH THE FEDERAL

28:08 ADMINISTRATION THINKS BOSTON IS

28:09 ANTI-WHITE, WHICH IS CRAZY,

28:10 RIGHT?

28:11 UM, AND SO THE SUGGESTION THAT

28:12 ADDRESSING GENERATIONS

28:13 OF EXCLUSION FROM HOUSING IS

28:15 SOMEHOW ANTI-WHITE IS

28:16 RIDICULOUS.

28:17 AND SO BOSTON SHOULD DEFEND ITS

28:18 COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING

28:19 WITHOUT AN APOLOGY.

28:20 RIGHT.

28:21 THAT'S LIKE EASY TO SAY.

28:22 SO BUT DEFENDING THAT

28:23 COMMITMENT ALSO MEANS CARRYING

28:24 IT OUT FULLY HERE IN BOSTON.

28:26 SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SAY

28:27 IT.

28:27 UM AND FOR BLACK BOSTONIANS

28:28 FAIR HOUSING IS NOT AN ABSTRACT

28:30 PRINCIPLE.

28:31 ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT,

28:32 UM, OUR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN SHUT

28:33 OUT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BUY

28:34 HOMES, TO BUILD WEALTH AND TO

28:36 REMAIN IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

28:37 UH, WE HAVE HELPED BUILD AND A

28:39 FAMILY.

28:39 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING

28:40 REQUIRES THE CITY TO CONFRONT

28:41 THAT HISTORY AND THE DECISIONS

28:43 IT MAKES TODAY.

28:44 UM, AND SO I RECLAIM ROXBURY.

28:45 WE'VE HELPED TO MAKE THOSE

28:46 DECISIONS TANGIBLE.

28:47 IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NUBIAN

28:48 SQUARE UM, FORMERLY DUDLEY

28:50 SQUARE ON PUBLIC LAND, WE

28:51 PUSHED TO ENSURE THAT UM

28:54 PROJECTS ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE

28:55 THAT RESIDENTS UM AND

28:58 ENTREPRENEURS HAVE

28:59 OPPORTUNITIES.

29:00 UH, BUT THERE ARE BLACK LED AND

29:01 DIVERSE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS AND

29:02 THAT WE GET A REAL SAYING WHAT

29:03 GETS BUILT?

29:04 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY

29:05 PROUD OF AND WE INSISTED THAT

29:07 DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BENEFIT

29:08 PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THROUGH

29:09 DISINVESTMENT AND THE THREAT

29:11 OF DISPLACEMENT.

29:12 UM, AND IF WE CAN DEMAND THAT

29:13 STANDARD IN ROXBURY, BOSTON CAN

29:15 APPLY IT EVERYWHERE.

29:17 AND SO THAT WILL TAKE A STRONG

29:18 OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

29:19 EQUITY LED BY PROFESSIONALS

29:20 WITH DEEP FAIR HOUSING

29:22 EXPERIENCE.

29:23 UM AND I WANT TO HONOR BOB'S

29:24 ROLE AND THE LEADERSHIP HE

29:25 BROUGHT TO THIS WORK WHEN HE

29:26 WAS HERE.

29:26 UH, BUT SINCE HIS PASSING FOR

29:28 THE PAST TWO YEARS THE OFFICE

29:29 HAS LACKED A PERMANENT

29:30 DIRECTOR, WHICH IS, UM, NEEDS

29:32 TO BE CHANGED.

29:33 UH, AND THE DISRUPTION HAS BEEN

29:35 FELT AS YOU'VE HEARD OTHER

29:35 PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND I

29:36 UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS WORKING

29:38 TO FILL THAT POSITION AND WE

29:39 YOU KNOW, WE'VE SUGGESTED A

29:40 COUPLE PEOPLE.

29:41 UH, AND ALSO FOR THE TESTING

29:43 LEADERSHIP POSITION.

29:43 UH, BUT WE NEED THOSE SEARCHES

29:45 TO MOVE WITH URGENCY.

29:46 WE NEED YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO

29:48 MAKE A DECISION AND WE NEED

29:49 PEOPLE IN THOSE ROLES WHO KNOW

29:51 FAIR HOUSING ENFORCEMENT, UH,

29:52 OF TESTING AND THE COMMUNITIES

29:54 THAT THIS OFFICE SERVES.

29:56 UH, AND SO TESTING IS ACTUALLY

29:57 HOW WE FIND DISCRIMINATION THAT

29:58 PEOPLE, UH, MAY NEVER KNOW.

30:00 EXCUSE ME.

30:01 TESTING IS HOW WE FIND

30:02 DISCRIMINATION THAT PEOPLE

30:03 NEVER KNOW THEY EXPERIENCED

30:04 BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT NOT EVEN

30:05 KNOW THEY'RE BEING.

30:06 DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

30:07 RIGHT.

30:08 BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T.

30:09 EXPERTS IN FAIR HOUSING LAW AND

30:10 BUT THEY ARE USED.

30:12 TO RACISM AND THE WAY THAT

30:14 THINGS WORK IN EVERYDAY LIFE.

30:16 UM AND SO WE ALSO NEED A CLEAR

30:18 PUBLIC ACCOUNT OF HOW FAIR

30:19 HOUSING SHAPES DEVELOPMENT

30:20 DECISIONS FOR THE CITY'S FORMAL

30:21 FAIR HOUSING REVIEWS APPLIES TO

30:23 LARGE PROJECTS BUT IS MUCH LESS

30:25 CLEAR TO RESIDENTS HOW FAIR

30:26 HOUSING IS CONSIDERED IN OTHER

30:28 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

30:29 UH, AND WHEN THE BOSTON INTER

30:31 AGENCY FAIR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT

30:32 COMMITTEE ANOTHER MOUTHFUL.

30:34 UH, WHEN THEY REVIEW A PROJECT

30:36 ITS COMMENTS AND THE RESULTING

30:37 COMMITMENTS WHICH YOU KNOW IF

30:39 YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A DISTRICT

30:40 CITY COUNCIL YOU HAVE A

30:40 DEVELOPMENT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD

30:41 THERE IS THOSE COMMENTS ARE IN

30:44 THE YOU KNOW THE REVIEW PACKET

30:45 FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.

30:46 UM BUT IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND AS

30:48 AN ADVOCATE WHO DOES THIS YOU

30:49 KNOW, EVERY DAY.

30:50 UM AND SO RESIDENTS SHOULD BE

30:51 ABLE TO SEE WHAT CONCERNS ARE

30:52 RAISED BY THE BOSTON INTER

30:54 AGENCY FAIR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT

30:55 COMMITTEE AND WHAT'S CHANGED

30:56 AND WHETHER THOSE COMMITMENTS

30:57 WERE KEPT.

30:59 UM AND SO MY ASK IS

31:00 STRAIGHTFORWARD.

31:00 OUR ASK IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.

31:01 FILL THE LEADERSHIP VACANCIES

31:02 WITH EXPERIENCED FAIR HOUSING

31:04 PROFESSIONALS.

31:04 RESTORE THE OFFICES CAPACITY.

31:06 UH, MAKE FAIR HOUSING REVIEW

31:08 AND ITS OUTCOMES VISIBLE TO THE

31:09 PUBLIC.

31:10 UH, AND BOSTON HAS TAKEN

31:11 IMPORTANT STEPS CURRENTLY.

31:12 BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT

31:13 THAT COMMITMENT REACHES, UH,

31:15 BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES AND

31:16 EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE

31:17 DECISIONS ABOUT LAND AND

31:18 HOUSING ARE BEING MADE.

31:19 THANK YOU.

31:22 THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE

31:24 FOR ME.

31:24 SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR

31:25 STATEMENTS IN YOUR WORK.

31:27 OKAY SO NOW BEFORE I WANT TO

31:29 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN

31:30 JOINED ALSO BY

31:31 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND

31:32 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE I'M GOING

31:34 TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUES IN.

31:35 SORRY.

31:36 YES.

31:36 AND YOU KNOW I YOU JUST SO

31:38 STRONG I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU

31:39 WERE HERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

31:41 SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

31:43 ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS,

31:45 COUNCILOR COLE PEPPER.

31:46 SO I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE MY

31:48 COLLEAGUES THE OPPORTUNITY TO

31:50 DO SOME Q&A.

31:51 I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM EACH.

31:54 LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES.

31:55 IS THAT OKAY?

31:57 FIVE MINUTES.

31:57 AND THEN IF THEY HAVE SECOND

31:58 ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS I'LL ALLOW

31:59 THEM TO DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL

32:01 MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PANEL.

32:02 BUT WE'LL START OFF WITH THE

32:04 THREE SPONSORS AND CO-SPONSORS

32:07 OF THIS DOCKET STARTING WITH

32:08 COUNCILOR WU COUNCILOR CULPEPER

32:10 THEN MEJIA AND THEN BY

32:11 ATTENDANCE.

32:12 SO COUNCILOR WORRELL FLOOR IS

32:13 YOURS.

32:14 THANK YOU.

32:14 CHAIR AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO

32:15 THE PANEL FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON

32:17 MAKING BOSTON.

32:18 UH.

32:18 A NATIONAL LEADER IN THIS

32:19 WORK AND ALSO.

32:20 JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO

32:22 HONOR.

32:22 THE WORK OF THE LATE GREAT

32:23 BOB TYRRELL AS WELL.

32:25 UM, I.

32:26 HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT

32:27 I'M GONNA SEE IF I COULD KEEP

32:28 THEM ALL DOWN.

32:30 UM, AND PREPARE QUESTIONS AND

32:32 QUESTIONS AS YOU GUYS WERE

32:34 TALKING.

32:35 SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE

32:38 MONITORING COMMITTEE AND THE

32:41 INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE?

32:42 UH, FROM THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO

32:44 EVALUATE THE CITY'S PROGRESS.

32:49 YEAH.

32:50 UM, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?

32:52 OKAY.

32:52 YEAH, I THINK THE I MEAN, THE

32:53 THE QUARTERLY REPORTS WE

32:54 RECEIVE ARE ONE OF THE MOST

32:56 TANGIBLE WAYS THAT I HAVE SEEN

32:58 LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOW THEIR

33:00 COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING, UH,

33:02 ABOUT MY COMMITMENT TO MAKING

33:03 CHANGE RATHER AND IN THIS CASE

33:05 AROUND FAIR HOUSING.

33:06 AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY.

33:06 SEEING REPORTS.

33:07 FROM EACH.

33:08 DEPARTMENT OR.

33:09 NO REPORTS.

33:09 WHICH IS A PROBLEM AND.

33:10 THEY DON'T REPORT BUT.

33:11 WE'RE SEEING THAT THERE.

33:13 ARE GOALS AND THEN THERE ARE

33:14 QUARTERLY UPDATES AND EXCEL

33:16 SPREADSHEETS EASY TO READ.

33:17 OKAY.

33:18 WELL I THINK IN THE BEGINNING

33:21 THE MONITORING COMMITTEE WE HAD

33:24 UM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE

33:26 HAD THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

33:27 OF HOUSING VHA THE HEALTH

33:29 COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY GAVE

33:33 UH REPORTS ON WHAT THEIR

33:34 OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE

33:36 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING WAS.

33:38 AND THE BHB DEVELOPED A

33:40 FANTASTIC SPREADSHEET AND WE'RE

33:43 JUST ASKING THAT THAT CONTINUES

33:45 BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST AN

33:47 AMAZING, UM, WAY TO KEEP TRACK

33:51 OF WHAT EVERYONE WAS DOING

33:52 AROUND FAIR HOUSING.

33:53 THANK YOU.

33:55 YEAH.

33:57 SO SO.

33:57 ECHO WHAT UM, MY COLLEAGUES.

33:58 HAVE.

33:59 SAID I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS

34:00 THAT I THINK UM, COULD.

34:02 BE UM, ADD SOME MORE VALUE IS

34:05 A.

34:05 LARGE PART OF THE THE.

34:07 THE FHA PROCESS WAS TO KIND

34:09 OF THINK ABOUT A.

34:11 UM AN INTERSECTIONALITY.

34:12 THAT JAMES TALK ABOUT.

34:13 BECAUSE YOU KNOW, UH, FAIR

34:14 HOUSING REALLY.

34:14 INTERSECTS UM.

34:16 PEOPLE KIND OF THINK OF FOR.

34:17 HOUSING I THINK HOUSING AND

34:18 THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY MAIN.

34:19 WHICH IT RESIDES BUT IT REALLY

34:21 CUTS ACROSS.

34:21 A LOT OF DIFFERENT DOMAINS.

34:23 SO I THINK ONE OF.

34:24 THING THAT THAT COULD BE USEFUL

34:26 WITHIN THE MARGIN.

34:27 COMMITTEE AND ALL THE REPORTS

34:28 THAT.

34:28 THE DIFFERENT CITY

34:29 DEPARTMENTS.

34:30 UM PRESENT.

34:31 IS HAVE.

34:32 SOME KIND OF VISION ABOUT

34:33 HOW TO INTEGRATE BECAUSE IT

34:35 STILL IS STILL UH FAIRLY SILOED

34:37 IN TERMS OF UM WE'RE DOING OUR

34:39 LITTLE PIECE.

34:40 FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.

34:40 HERE.

34:41 OR THERE.

34:41 BUT I THINK THAT YES, THERE

34:42 OUGHT TO BE A LARGER STRATEGY.

34:43 HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THESE

34:45 ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND

34:46 CITY DOMAINS.

34:47 UH, TO A.

34:48 LARGER KIND OF UNIVERSAL.

34:50 FOR HOUSING POLICY, RIGHT.

34:51 I THINK THEY BEEN MENTIONED AS

34:52 LIKE HAVING LIKE UH A POSITION

34:54 THAT HELPS COORDINATE ALL THE

34:56 EFFORTS ACROSS THE CITY OPPOSED

34:59 TO EVERYONE DOING IT WITHIN

35:00 THEIR OWN SILOED DEPARTMENT.

35:01 UM, AND SPEAKING OF REPORTING,

35:04 UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS NADEEM WHO

35:05 MENTIONED THE EQUITY AUDIT.

35:07 UM, THAT WAS UH, RFP IN 2025.

35:12 UM, WHAT CAN YOU TALK TO

35:13 ME ABOUT WHAT THAT INDEPENDENT

35:15 AUDIT WAS SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY

35:18 OR REVIEW OR PROVIDE

35:19 INFORMATION THE DATA TO THE

35:21 CITY.

35:22 AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER

35:23 PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT.

35:24 IT'S REALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE

35:27 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING WHAT

35:29 THE AUDIT IS REQUIRED TO DO.

35:31 AND IN ALL FAIRNESS THE CITY

35:33 DID HIRE CONTRACTORS TO DO THE

35:36 AUDIT AND THEY WERE IN THE

35:38 MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS AND IT

35:40 WAS LOOKING ACROSS ALL THE CITY

35:42 DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT FAIR

35:44 HOUSING WORK THEY ARE DOING

35:46 WHAT HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS, WHAT

35:48 ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE.

35:49 AND THAT AUDIT WAS PAUSED AFTER

35:53 THE UH, HUD INVESTIGATION

35:56 STARTED AND WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE

36:00 SYMPATHETIC BUT THIS IS WHAT

36:02 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS

36:04 DOING.

36:04 THEY ARE KILLING FAIR HOUSING

36:07 AND WE JUST CAN SAY ALL RIGHT,

36:10 WE'RE GOING TO STOP DOING OUR

36:12 FAIR HOUSING AUDIT FOREVER.

36:16 SO THAT'S OUR CONCERN.

36:17 AND WHEN UH UH, ONE MAJOR PIECE

36:23 WAS ALSO TO UH, ASSESS WHAT

36:26 LINCOLN JUST TOUCHED UPON.

36:27 WHAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING.

36:29 OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING.

36:31 FAIR HOUSING OUT.

36:32 THERE AMONG CITY OFFICIALS

36:33 AND CITY WORKERS?

36:35 UH, A LOT OF.

36:37 PEOPLE AGAIN BELIEVE APPROACHED

36:39 FAIR HOUSING AS.

36:41 I WAS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST

36:43 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

36:44 HOUSING GOES.

36:45 WAY BEYOND THAT.

36:46 UH, HOUSING IS CONNECTED TO OUR

36:48 PUBLIC SCHOOLS, TO PUBLIC

36:50 SAFETY, TO PUBLIC HEALTH, TO

36:51 THE ENVIRONMENT, TO THE AIR.

36:53 UH, SO HOW HOW DO WE

36:57 COLLECTIVELY.

36:58 UNDERSTAND THAT.

36:59 INTEREST SEXUAL.

37:00 NATURE OF.

37:01 FAIR HOUSING?

37:02 UH, AND I COULD TELL YOU IN A

37:04 LOT OF PLACES BASED ON ANOTHER

37:05 STUDY THAT I WAS PART OF UH, UH

37:08 ,LOOKING AT CITIES IN THE

37:10 GREATER BOSTON AREA AND TOWNS

37:12 THERE'S A LOT

37:13 OF MISUNDERSTANDING.

37:14 THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ZERO

37:17 KNOWLEDGE, UH, AMONG VERY.

37:19 WELL-MEANING PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT.

37:21 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

37:22 HOUSING IS AND WHAT ACTUALLY.

37:25 HAS BEEN.

37:25 ENDORSED BY LAWS AND U.S.

37:28 SUPREME COURT DECISIONS IN THIS

37:29 COUNTRY.

37:32 YEAH.

37:32 SO I.

37:33 THINK UM SO THE QUESTION YOU

37:34 ASK IS A GOOD ONE, UH,

37:36 COUNCILOR IN THE SENSE THAT UM,

37:37 SO THERE'S A PRESUMPTION BEEN

37:39 AROUND WHAT UM GOAL 7.1 AND AN

37:43 EQUITY AUDIT IS SUPPOSED TO DO

37:44 AND IT IS IT IS IT IS FAIRLY

37:46 SPELLED OUT UM THE CAC WAS

37:48 HAPPY WITH THE UM THE

37:50 INDEPENDENT UH CONTRACT WITH

37:52 THE INDEPENDENT.

37:53 CONTRACTOR THAT.

37:54 UH THE CITY HIRED TO DO THE

37:55 ASSESSMENT AND WERE HAPPY IN

37:56 TERMS OF WHAT THE PROCESS HAD

37:58 BEEN GOING BEFORE THE PAUSE.

38:00 I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE

38:01 QUESTIONS IS STILL OUTSTANDING

38:02 WE DON'T KNOW IS BECAUSE WE

38:04 DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL AUDIT IN

38:06 FRONT OF US TO LOOK AT.

38:07 BUT THE GOAL REALLY THE.

38:08 END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW,

38:09 BOSTON HAS A HISTORY OF UH A

38:11 HISTORY OF UM DISCRIMINATION

38:13 AND VIOLATING THEORIES AND

38:14 PRACTICE AND SO ON AND SO

38:15 FORTH.

38:15 YOU KNOW AND WE KNOW THIS YOU

38:17 KNOW.

38:18 SO THE LARGER.

38:19 QUESTION AND THAT YOU CAN'T

38:20 ANSWER UNTIL YOU SEE THE

38:21 ACTUAL.

38:21 AUDIT IS.

38:22 DOES THE AUDIT GO INTO THE KIND

38:25 OF DETAIL AND ACTUALLY AND

38:27 ACTUALLY CRITICALLY THE

38:28 CRITICAL QUESTIONS AND HARD

38:29 QUESTIONS.

38:30 AND PROVIDE REAL.

38:31 ANSWERS THAT THEN THE CITY CAN

38:33 LOOK AT AND TAKE ACTION TO MOVE

38:34 FORWARD TO REALLY IMPROVE NOT

38:35 ONLY FOR FOR HOUSING EQUITY,

38:38 UH, ACROSS THE CITY OF BOSTON.

38:39 SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AN

38:40 OUTSTANDING QUESTION THAT'S

38:41 STILL LEFT TO BE ANSWERED.

38:42 THANK YOU.

38:43 CHAIR THANK YOU,

38:45 COUNCILOR CULPEPPER YEAH FIVE

38:46 MINUTES.

38:47 THANK YOU CHAIR FOR.

38:49 HOLDING THIS HEARING AND.

38:50 THANK YOU TO COUNCIL WILL RAIL

38:51 AND WE'LL, UH FOR CO-SPONSORING

38:54 .

38:55 THIS HEARING.

38:56 I, UH.

39:00 JUST WANTED TO SAY.

39:04 DEAN COHEN AND I WORKED FOR

39:05 YEARS.

39:06 I WAS SURE.

39:08 THAT GREATER BOSTON LEGAL.

39:09 SERVICES AND OURS.

39:10 AS A REGIONAL COUNCIL.

39:11 I WORK WITH CHAMBERS UNIONS FOR

39:12 YEARS AND.

39:15 TO FIND OURSELVES IN THIS

39:17 PREDICAMENT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.

39:19 AND I'M REALLY.

39:21 FOCUSED ON THIS CITY FOR JUST

39:22 ONE MINUTE MINUTE BECAUSE EVERY

39:25 OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD I ASKED

39:26 THE CITY WHEN WERE WE GOING TO

39:28 HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

39:30 HIRED?

39:31 I WAS TOLD SEVERAL TIMES BY THE

39:34 END OF THE SUMMER THAT WE WOULD

39:36 HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

39:39 HIRED AND ON BOARD AND THERE

39:41 WERE RUMORS THAT WE HAD ONE

39:43 THAT ONE WAS HIRED BUT I

39:45 HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD UH, A

39:47 FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR BEING

39:50 HIRED AND SOMEONE COMES IN AND

39:53 ONCE AGAIN, UH, MAKING THE

39:56 STRONGEST REQUESTS THAT I CAN

39:57 TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE

40:00 HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

40:02 HIRED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER,

40:05 UH, BECAUSE THE WORK THAT THAT

40:07 BOB DID AND WE WORK WITH BOB A

40:09 LOT WHAT A GREAT DIRECTOR HE

40:11 WAS THE STANDARDS THAT HE SAID

40:14 AND WHERE WE ARE NOW AND I

40:16 REMEMBER A DAY AND SO TO YOU

40:19 WHEN WE REJECTED THE CITY

40:20 OF BOSTON'S FIRST AFFIRMATIVELY

40:22 FURTHER AND FAIR HOUSING PLAN

40:23 THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO HAD WE

40:26 SEND IT BACK I WAS REGIONAL

40:27 COUNCIL.

40:27 I HAD SAID NO, THIS IS NOT GOOD

40:29 ENOUGH.

40:30 WHEN YOU LOOK.

40:31 AT THE PLAN THAT THEY FINALLY

40:33 CAME UP WITH, IT'S AMAZING HOW

40:36 THE CITY UH MOVED TO THE

40:38 FOREFRONT OF THE COUNTRY IN

40:39 TERMS OF FAIR HOUSING AND IT

40:41 WASN'T BY MISTAKE IT WAS

40:43 BECAUSE OF A LOT OF HARD WORK.

40:46 AND I GO BACK TO THAT STUDY

40:48 THAT UH, BOSTON FOUNDATION DID

40:51 WITH SUFFOLK LAW SCHOOL THAT

40:53 TESTING PROGRAM, THE SECTION

40:54 EIGHT PROGRAM.

40:55 I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT

40:57 REAL QUICK AND ASK EACH OF YOU

40:59 WHAT SHOULD THE CITY OF BOSTON

41:00 HAVE DONE AFTER THE BOSTON

41:03 FOUNDATION AND SUFFOLK

41:05 UNIVERSITY ISSUED THEIR REPORT

41:07 REGARDING SECTION EIGHT

41:08 DISCRIMINATION?

41:11 WELL, I THINK UH UH UH THE

41:16 FIRST WOULD BE TO UH.

41:20 DECLARE THAT THE CITY UH HAS

41:24 BEEN STRUGGLING VERY POSITIVE

41:26 AND THEY PROGRESSIVELY TO BUILD

41:28 A VISION WHERE EVERYONE IS

41:30 INCLUDED AND WE'RE NOT GOING

41:32 TO.

41:32 LET ANY KIND OF UH.

41:35 OF UH PROBLEM THAT EXISTS OR

41:37 CHALLENGE THAT IS CONTINUING TO

41:40 TO DETER US FROM THAT DIRECTION

41:42 .

41:42 SO SO THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW,

41:44 THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING.

41:45 BUT PART OF THAT MESSAGE WOULD

41:47 ALSO BE THAT WE'RE.

41:50 MOVING AWAY FROM A.

41:51 CITY WHERE WE ARE US AND THEN

41:53 THERE.

41:54 THE OTHERS.

41:55 AND SECTION EIGHT.

41:58 SOMETIMES IS IS UH IS

42:00 APPROACHED BY SOME SECTORS AS

42:02 THE OTHER KNOW SECTION EIGHT IS

42:03 US.

42:04 AND SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE

42:06 MESSAGE THAT.

42:07 THAT HAS TO BE MADE AT LEAST ON

42:09 A PRELIMINARY LEVEL.

42:10 I MEAN THERE COULD BE OTHER

42:11 PROBLEMATIC THINGS BUT AT A.

42:12 PRELIMINARY LEVEL WE HAVE TO

42:14 STATE A FLAG.

42:16 ON THE.

42:16 GROUND AND.

42:16 SAY WHEN WE'RE.

42:17 GOING TO BE A CITY THAT.

42:19 IS CONTINUE.

42:19 TO MAKE RACIAL AND ECONOMIC.

42:21 PROGRESS BECAUSE THAT.

42:23 IS REALLY THE MEANING OF A

42:24 GREAT CITY.

42:25 UM, I WANT TO THANK UM,

42:29 COUNCILOR CULPEPPER FOR ALL

42:30 YOUR YEARS OF WORK AND FAIR

42:32 HOUSING BUT FOR THIS QUESTION

42:33 AND I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC

42:36 ANSWER ABOUT SECTION EIGHT

42:37 DISCRIMINATION, THE SUFFOLK

42:39 STUDY WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE

42:41 KNEW THAT SECTION EIGHT UH

42:44 HOLDERS WERE BEING DENIED

42:45 HOUSING UNLAWFULLY.

42:47 OUR STATE LAW SAYS YOU CANNOT

42:50 DENY HOUSING TO SOMEONE BECAUSE

42:52 THEY HAVE A RENTAL SUBSIDY.

42:54 I'VE WORKED ON THAT FOR YEARS

42:56 AND YEARS.

42:57 SO WHAT SHOULD THE CITY DO?

43:00 VHA GIVES OUT SECTION EIGHT UH

43:03 VOUCHERS.

43:03 THEY HOLD SESSIONS FOR PEOPLE

43:06 LOOKING FOR HOUSING.

43:07 WHY DON'T THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME

43:10 TO THEM EVERY TIME THEY GO AND

43:12 TRY TO GET HOUSING AND ARE TOLD

43:15 WE DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT?

43:16 WHY DOESN'T VHA KEEP A RECORD

43:19 OF ALL THOSE LANDLORDS AND

43:22 HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT DENY

43:25 HOUSING TO SECTION EIGHT

43:26 CERTIFICATES?

43:26 AND WHY DOESN'T THE CITY SUE

43:28 THOSE LANDLORDS AND SUE THOSE

43:32 HOUSING PROVIDERS AND A LOT

43:33 OF THEM ARE LARGE HOUSING

43:35 PROVIDERS.

43:36 I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TWO AND

43:38 THREE FAMILY UH UNITS, BUT SOME

43:41 ARE BIG HOUSING PROVIDERS IN MY

43:43 DAY SOME OF THE BIG RENTAL

43:46 COMPANIES WOULD RAISE THEIR

43:48 RENTS $5 ABOVE THE FAIR MARKET

43:51 RENTS THAT HUD WOULD PAY FOR

43:54 SECTION EIGHT BRANDS AND THEN

43:55 THEY WOULD KEEP PEOPLE OUT.

43:57 SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A

43:59 MORE AGGRESSIVE POLICY OVERALL

44:02 FOR THE CITY AND SORRY I GET

44:06 WORKED UP ABOUT THAT.

44:09 UM.

44:09 IT WAS JUST.

44:09 THAT THERE COULD BE MORE.

44:10 COORDINATION WITH.

44:11 THE STATE OFFICE OF FAIR

44:12 HOUSING AND ENSURING THAT YOU

44:14 KNOW, AS IN TERMS OF OUR

44:16 ADVOCACY GROUP, YOU KNOW, WE

44:17 KNOW THAT UM, ACE AND OTHERS

44:19 THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT

44:20 THAT SOON THE.

44:21 COORDINATION AND THE ROLE.

44:22 THAT THE STATE OFFICE PLAYS

44:24 AND ALSO FRANKLY HAVING MAYBE A

44:25 MORE INDEPENDENT OFFICE THAT'S

44:27 JUST COMMUNITY BASED THAT CAN

44:28 DO THAT WORK, UM, TO, YOU KNOW,

44:30 HELP SUPPORT WHAT THE CITY

44:31 MIGHT NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY UM

44:33 ,IF THAT'S THE ISSUE.

44:35 LINKING.

44:37 YEAH.

44:38 SO YOU KIND.

44:39 OF TOOK US TO THE POINT UM,

44:40 NEEDING UH NEEDING UM MADE SO.

44:45 WE KNOW THIS INTUITIVELY THAT.

44:47 THIS IS.

44:48 HAPPENING I MEAN THE THE

44:49 STUDY COME ON.

44:51 I THINK UM A SUFFOLK.

44:55 UM FOR.

44:55 THE FOR THE STUDY BUT IT

44:57 DIDN'T REVEAL SOMETHING THAT WE

44:59 IN THIS FIELD IN THIS SPACE

45:00 DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW.

45:02 I THINK A LARGE.

45:03 PART OF THIS I MEAN, YOU SEE

45:04 ADVERTISEMENT EVERY DAY, UH,

45:05 THAT VIOLATES A FAIR HOUSING

45:07 PRACTICES.

45:07 YOU KNOW, UM, WE DON'T WE DON'T

45:09 ACCEPT, UH, CHILDREN ALL THIS

45:11 KIND OF STUFF THAT REALLY

45:12 VIOLATES A FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

45:14 BUT THE.

45:15 ISSUE IS SOMEWHAT NETTING AND

45:16 OUR MONUMENTS AND IT'S REALLY

45:17 ONE ENFORCEMENT.

45:18 HOW DO YOU CREATE A MECHANISM

45:20 WHERE YOU KNOW THIS IS

45:21 HAPPENING?

45:23 UM, BUT THERE UM.

45:25 LIKE THERE IS NO DISINCENTIVE

45:29 WITHIN ALLOWING LANDLORDS TO

45:31 VIOLATE THESE KIND OF HOUSING

45:33 PRACTICES AND UNTIL WE KIND

45:34 OF CHANGE, UH, CREATE A

45:36 MECHANISM TO ENFORCE FAIR

45:37 HOUSING LAWS AND PRACTICES,

45:38 THIS WOULD JUST UH,

45:40 UNFORTUNATELY CONTINUE.

45:41 SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU CREATE

45:42 A MECHANISM THAT THAT ENFORCES

45:43 A POLICY AND IT'S NOT EVERYONE

45:45 BUT WHAT CREATING NEW POLICIES

45:47 IS THE HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THE

45:48 POLICY THAT'S ALREADY ON THE

45:49 BOOKS?

45:50 SO THAT I THINK IS WHAT UM WE

45:51 NEED TO GET BETTER AT.

45:53 THANK YOU.

45:54 THANK YOU,

45:55 COUNCILOR CULPEPER

45:55 COUNCILMEMBER HERE YOU HAVE

45:57 FIVE MINUTES.

45:59 THAT WAS THAT.

46:00 DON'T STOP MY OKAY.

46:01 THERE WE GO.

46:02 THANK YOU.

46:02 CHAIR EVERY MINUTE COUNT.

46:04 UH, NOT FOR REAL.

46:06 WELL.

46:06 FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.

46:08 I AM SO GLAD THAT I'M HERE

46:10 TODAY AND I.

46:10 REALLY DO APPRECIATE.

46:12 UM, OUR MONEY.

46:13 REALLY LAYING DOWN THE

46:14 FOUNDATION IN TERMS OF WHAT

46:15 RACIAL EQUITY, UM, REALLY NEEDS

46:18 TO LOOK LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, IF

46:19 WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT

46:20 UPLIFTING BLACK AND BROWN

46:21 PEOPLE, THESE ARE THE

46:22 OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AS A

46:24 COUNCIL TO SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE

46:25 WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE'RE

46:27 SERIOUS ABOUT.

46:28 UM.

46:28 THAT BUSINESS.

46:29 SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ALL

46:30 OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE TODAY AND

46:32 I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE ALL

46:33 TAKING NOTES IN TERMS OF WHAT

46:35 WE NEED TO DO.

46:35 SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LAYING

46:36 DOWN THE FOUNDATION.

46:38 AND I WAS AS YOU ARE WE'RE

46:40 TALKING.

46:40 I WAS ALREADY TAKING NOTES AND

46:42 I.

46:42 AND I GUESS BECAUSE IT AFFIRMS

46:45 FOR.

46:45 ME THAT I'M ALSO ON THE RIGHT

46:47 TRACK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS

46:48 BECAUSE ONE OF.

46:48 THE QUESTIONS THAT I UM HAD

46:50 IS REALLY ABOUT I ALWAYS SAY

46:52 THAT BOSTON IS.

46:52 RESOURCE RICH BUT COORDINATION

46:53 POOR AND WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH

46:56 TO REALLY UH.

46:57 FIND THE INTERSECTION.

46:58 SO I TALKED ABOUT.

46:59 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING

47:00 YOU KNOW, THE WORKFORCE IS.

47:02 IS DEFINITELY.

47:03 PART OF THE CONVERSATION.

47:04 AT BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

47:06 I'M HAPPY TO.

47:06 SEE BRANDY HERE.

47:07 HIGHER GROUND HAS BEEN DOING A

47:08 LOT OF WORK AROUND THE

47:09 DISPLACEMENT OF.

47:10 OUR STUDENTS PUBLIC HEALTH AND

47:11 PUBLIC SAFETY.

47:12 AND I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO

47:14 HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WHAT

47:16 ROLE UM, THE CITY PLAY IN

47:19 HELPING THOSE DEPARTMENTS

47:19 UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNICATION

47:21 THAT THEY SHOULD BE SHARING

47:22 WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS.

47:23 WHEN THEY'RE INTERFACING WITH

47:25 OUR CONSTITUENTS?

47:26 AND I THINK THAT THAT IS ALSO

47:28 AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE

47:29 CONVERSATION BECAUSE.

47:30 EQUITY AND FAIR HOUSING HAS TO.

47:33 BE THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST A

47:35 FEW DEPARTMENTS.

47:35 SO I'M REALLY.

47:36 ON BOARD.

47:37 WITH THAT.

47:39 SO THREE QUESTIONS.

47:40 I'D LIKE TO KNOW.

47:42 UM WHAT WOULD SUCCESS LOOK.

47:44 LIKE IF WE GOT THIS RIGHT?

47:46 UM I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WOULD

47:47 YOU.

47:48 MEASURE THAT SUCCESS?

47:49 AND I KNOW THE.

47:50 RESEARCHERS HERE PROBABLY HAVE

47:52 SOME ANSWERS FOR ME.

47:53 JAMES.

47:54 UM, AND IF.

47:55 YOU.

47:55 HAD.

47:55 TO GIVE THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW,

47:57 GIVE US A GRADE.

47:58 IN THIS MOMENT.

48:00 WE'D BE AN.

48:01 A-PLUS STUDENT.

48:02 I WE LIKE D WE C NEEDS

48:05 IMPROVEMENT.

48:05 I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT GRADE YOU

48:06 WOULD GIVE US.

48:07 UM, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION

48:11 IS HOW ARE WE?

48:12 HOW'S THE CITY CURRENTLY

48:14 COMMUNICATING GIVEN THE FACT

48:15 THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A

48:16 CONSISTENT UM.

48:18 UH.

48:19 THE STAFFING TRANSITIONS,

48:20 YOU KNOW, AND.

48:21 AND UH, LOSING.

48:22 BOB AND THEN JUST ALL THE FITS

48:23 AND STARTS THAT WE'VE.

48:24 HAD UM, HOW HAS THAT.

48:26 COMMUNICATION BEEN.

48:28 AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO

48:30 IMPROVE THAT?

48:30 THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.

48:31 I'LL GO FIRST TO TAKE THE.

48:33 EASY PART AND LEAVE THE

48:34 HARD.

48:34 PART FOR MY COLLEAGUES.

48:36 AND I.

48:37 GUESS THE EASY PART IN ONE

48:39 SENSE.

48:39 IS UH, METRICS.

48:41 I MEAN ANYTHING WE DO SHOULD.

48:43 BE SHOULD BE.

48:44 MEASURABLE SHOULDN'T BE UH.

48:46 AND NOT JUST BY.

48:48 HARD DATA BY THE WAY, BUT

48:49 ALSO.

48:49 BY THE STORIES THAT.

48:50 WE HEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

48:51 UH, BUT BUT THE ASSESSMENT

48:54 OF FAIR HOUSING.

48:55 ACTUALLY HAS A WHOLE SET

48:56 OF METRICS FOR ALL OF THESE

48:57 GOALS.

48:58 FOR THE 14 GOALS.

48:59 THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE

49:00 MEASURED.

49:01 SO WHEN WE MEET AS A MODERATE.

49:02 COMMITTEE, UH.

49:04 WE GO OVER.

49:05 THOSE GOALS.

49:05 AND THE ACTUAL.

49:07 MEASURES AND THE DEAN

49:08 HIGHLIGHTED TO.

49:09 BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS

49:10 DONE AN EXCELLENT.

49:11 JOB IN LOOKING AT THOSE METRICS

49:12 AND.

49:12 DEVELOPING UH, STATS AND

49:14 SPREADSHEETS AND SO SO.

49:16 ANYTHING WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO

49:19 DO ANYTHING WE SAY WE.

49:20 UH, HOPE TO SEE.

49:22 UH WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT

49:24 ARE THE.

49:24 METRICS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT

49:26 GOAL.

49:27 WHAT ARE THE METRICS ASSOCIATED

49:29 WITH THAT OBJECTIVE?

49:30 AND THEN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME

49:31 AND THE AUDIT DOES THIS TO A

49:33 CERTAIN EXTENT TOWARDS THE NEXT

49:35 THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WE

49:37 SEE.

49:37 YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME

49:38 IMPROVEMENT HERE THERE'S BEEN

49:40 SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE.

49:41 BUT THE METRICS.

49:42 ARE ALSO IMPORTANT UH TO UH.

49:45 TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND

49:47 WHAT.

49:47 THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE ARE.

49:48 AND IF I DON'T HAVE.

49:50 WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY

49:51 SIDETRACKING BUT LET ME.

49:52 SAY IT ANYWAY WE HAVE A LOT

49:54 OF.

49:54 DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.

49:56 SO IF DEVELOPMENT.

49:57 AND NOTHING.

49:59 SHOULD BE.

49:59 EXCLUSIVE BUT IF.

50:00 DEVELOPMENT IS UH.

50:02 LET'S SAY.

50:02 LEANING TOWARDS ONE BEDROOM

50:04 STUDIO APARTMENTS.

50:06 WELL THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT

50:07 THE DATA AND SAY.

50:08 WHO'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY

50:10 THAT?

50:10 LEANING TOWARDS ONE BEDROOM IN

50:12 A STUDIO.

50:13 APARTMENT ASIDE FROM THE

50:16 REASONS FOR THAT, FOR THE

50:17 MOMENT.

50:17 WE HAVE.

50:18 IN BOSTON CENSUS TRACKS.

50:20 WE HAVE.

50:21 FAMILIES WITH A GOOD 30 TO.

50:24 50% OF ALL THE FAMILIES.

50:25 AND.

50:25 A WHOLE BUNCH OF CENSUS TRACKS

50:27 HAVE FOUR PERSONS OR MORE AND

50:29 SO AND SO.

50:30 WHO'S BEING LEFT OUT ONCE WE

50:32 LEAN.

50:33 TOWARDS THIS POLICY OR THIS

50:34 APPROACH.

50:35 AND A FAIR HOUSING.

50:36 GOAL IS UH IS BASED ON

50:39 METRICS IT HAS TO BE BASED ON

50:41 METRICS AND A.

50:42 FAIR HOUSING.

50:42 LENS ALLOW US TO ASK QUESTIONS

50:45 BUT.

50:45 WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS.

50:47 OF THIS DECISION OR THIS

50:49 DECISION FOR AGAIN.

50:50 WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.

50:51 TEN FAMILIES.

50:52 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS

50:54 OF PEOPLE.

50:54 IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.

50:55 YEAH I GUESS UH.

50:57 HOW DO WE WE CAN ALSO.

50:59 MEASURE AND JUST.

50:59 DO THAT IS IN THESE

51:01 QUARTERLY REPORTS.

51:02 YOU KNOW.

51:03 IT'S BY DEPARTMENT THERE'S

51:04 LIKE YOU KNOW FIVE, 612

51:06 DIFFERENT GOALS AND THEY HAVE

51:07 HAVE THEY STARTED HAVE THEY NOT

51:09 STARTED WE SHOULD SEE STARTED

51:10 ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE

51:11 GOALS AT THE VERY LEAST RIGHT.

51:13 WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED UH MOST

51:15 OF THEM WE HAVE YOU KNOW WE'VE

51:16 HEARD.

51:17 I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.

51:18 UH QUARTERS NOW IT WAS AGO THAT

51:19 WE MET.

51:20 UM, HOW LONG AGO?

51:20 THE LAST ONE WAS BUT IT'S BEEN

51:22 A WHILE AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY

51:23 LIKE ISD HAS JUST FAILED TO

51:25 START ANYTHING, RIGHT?

51:27 LIKE WE TALK ABOUT THE PLAN

51:29 THAT MEETING JUST MENTIONED

51:29 ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A

51:32 LIST THAT'S ONE OF THE ISD'S

51:33 DIRECTIVES UNDER THE UNDER FAIR

51:34 HOUSING THAT THEY JUST HAVEN'T

51:35 STARTED.

51:36 AND SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT

51:37 EASY EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING TO

51:38 MOVE ON.

51:39 UM, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO

51:41 ESTABLISH A REGISTRY OR

51:42 DATABASE THAT WILL INCLUDE

51:43 INFORMATION ON FAIR HOUSING AND

51:44 YOU KNOW, UH YOU KNOW, HEALTH

51:46 CODE VIOLATIONS AND VIOLATIONS.

51:47 WE JUST HAVEN'T STARTED IT AND

51:49 WE CAN GO, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT

51:50 BY DEPARTMENT AND LIST THINGS

51:51 THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN STARTED.

51:51 AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A

51:53 REAL TANGIBLE WAY TO DO IT.

51:54 AND I THINK IT'S THE GREAT

51:55 QUESTION IS HARD YOU KNOW WHAT

51:57 OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS.

51:58 SO GRADES ARE USUALLY BY YOUR

51:59 PEERS SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY

52:01 OTHER CITIES DOING IT.

52:01 NOPE I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW

52:02 ENOUGH TO GIVE A GRADE SO I'LL

52:04 SAY THAT BUT UM I THINK THEY

52:05 COULD BE DOING BETTER BUT.

52:07 UM NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.

52:08 IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT FOR SURE.

52:10 UM AND UM AGAIN HOW WOULD WE

52:12 MEASURE THAT?

52:13 OUR COMMITTEE MEETS QUARTERLY

52:15 AND WE HEAR THESE UPDATES.

52:16 WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE

52:17 REGULAR CHECK INS WITH OUR YOU

52:19 KNOW, COUNCILORS WHO ARE

52:19 CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TO SHARE

52:20 HOW WE FEEL AND MAKE SURE YOU

52:22 ALL ARE BACKING US UP ON THAT.

52:23 SO I THINK THAT'S A TANGIBLE

52:24 WAY.

52:25 UH, I'LL JUST ASK GREAT GREAT.

52:28 QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT US TO

52:30 REINVENT THE WHEEL.

52:32 WE HAVE HOW MANY PAGE

52:35 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

52:36 HUNDRED PAGES OR SOME 200 PAGES

52:40 WITH HOW MANY.

52:40 GOALS?

52:42 1414 SPECIFIC GOALS.

52:45 SO SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE

52:47 IMPLEMENTING THE ASSESSMENT

52:48 OF FAIR HOUSING AND MONITORING

52:52 THE SUCCESS OF THOSE UM UH,

52:56 CATEGORIES THAT ARE BEING

52:58 EVALUATED AND MAYBE CHANGING

52:59 THEM BASED ON CONDITIONS.

53:01 SO I THINK AND I THINK IT LAYS

53:04 OUT HOW YOU MEASURE IT.

53:06 UM AND I JUST DON'T WANT.

53:09 US TO GO BACK.

53:09 FROM THE BEGINNING WE SPENT

53:11 YEARS GETTING THAT.

53:13 YEAH.

53:13 NO THANK YOU.

53:14 I GET THE CHAIR'S GIVING ME THE

53:16 SIDE I.

53:16 AM.

53:17 DONE FOR MY QUESTIONS.

53:18 I WAIT FOR MY SECOND ROUND.

53:19 THANK YOU.

53:19 THANK YOU COUNCIL I'M HERE OKAY

53:22 NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO IN ORDER

53:24 OF ARRIVAL STARTING WITH

53:26 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

53:29 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

53:30 THANK YOU TO THE.

53:31 PANEL FOR THE INFORMATIVE

53:33 TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING

53:35 BUT ALSO YOUR LEADERSHIP ON ON

53:37 THIS ISSUE.

53:38 LISTEN CLOSELY TO TO ALL

53:40 OF YOU.

53:41 UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR

53:44 LEADERSHIP.

53:45 UM, MY MY QUESTION MAYBE IS AS

53:50 IT RELATES TO THE THE EQUITY

53:52 AUDIT BUT IS IF THE CITY IS

53:56 STALLED ON THE AUDIT, IS IT

53:58 NECESSARY FOR YOU TO HAVE THE

54:00 AUDIT TO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY

54:02 WHAT IS TAKING PLACE OR AND OR

54:07 CAN ANY UM ORGANIZATIONS HELP

54:12 WITH THE AUDIT IN THE MEANTIME

54:14 WHILE IT'S BEING STALLED?

54:16 COMMUNITY PARTNERS UH COMMUNITY

54:17 PARTNERS ABLE TO HELP WITH THE

54:18 AUDIT.

54:20 I CAN.

54:20 SAY THAT THE THERE ARE A

54:22 NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAN BE

54:23 DONE OUTSIDE OF THE AUDIT.

54:25 SO WE HAVE THE ASSESSMENT WHICH

54:26 HAS ALL THESE GOALS WHICH AS WE

54:28 TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU CAN

54:29 KIND OF GO AND STUDY YOU KNOW

54:30 EACH ONE OF THEM.

54:31 BUT ASIDE FROM THAT THERE'S

54:33 THIS AUDIT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO

54:34 BE DONE.

54:34 AND SO IF THE AUDIT IS

54:37 HAPPENING THERE'S ALL THESE

54:38 GOALS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE

54:39 MEANTIME.

54:39 AND THEN IN TERMS OF UH

54:40 ORGANIZATIONS LIKE A LOT

54:43 OF ORGANIZATIONS.

54:43 ARE PART OF.

54:44 THE WORK THAT WE DO A PART

54:45 OF THIS.

54:45 SO I THINK WE'RE ALL KIND

54:46 OF HAVE OUR EYE ON IT.

54:47 UM AND SO YEAH.

54:50 YES, SIR.

54:51 SO I THINK THAT UM CERTAINLY

54:53 ORGANIZATIONS CAN HELP BUT I

54:55 YOU.

54:55 KNOW, IT'S UM.

54:57 IN ORDER TO.

54:57 ARRIVE AT ANY KIND OF SOLUTION

54:59 FOR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO FIRST

55:00 NAME THE PROBLEM AND PART

55:02 OF YOU KNOW SO WE AGAIN

55:04 EXISTING IN THIS HOUSING SPACE

55:06 AND THE SPACE ON EQUITY I MEAN

55:08 BOSTON HAS A HISTORY IT'S NOT

55:09 LIKE UM WE JUST GOT UP THIS

55:11 MORNING AND THIS MOVED TO

55:12 BOSTON.

55:12 BUT BOSTON HAS A HISTORY AS IT

55:13 RELATES TO THIS KIND OF ISSUES.

55:15 SO WE KNEW INTUITIVELY THAT

55:16 SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE IN

55:17 PLACE.

55:17 BUT IF YOU HAVE A BODY LIKE SAY

55:19 THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS

55:20 A HUGE ROLE IN MITIGATING SOME

55:22 OF THESE SOME OF THESE KIND

55:23 OF CONCERNS, UM, PART.

55:25 OF THE.

55:26 EFFORT TO.

55:27 KIND OF CREATE SOLUTIONS, UM.

55:30 THAT IMPROVE PEOPLE'S.

55:31 QUALITY OF LIFE IS FOR YOU AT

55:33 LEAST WHAT UM ANY KIND OF ROLE

55:36 THAT YOU MAY BE PLAYING IN

55:38 THAT.

55:38 THAT THAT DETRACTS FROM THAT

55:40 BECAUSE IN SO DOING THAT YOU

55:41 CAN IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS

55:43 STRATEGIES THAT ACTUALLY UM.

55:45 HELP YOU TO MEET GOALS.

55:48 WHICH WE PRESUME THE GOAL

55:49 WOULD.

55:50 BE TO ENSURE.

55:51 THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE UM WHERE

55:54 TO CHOOSE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON

55:55 UH, CONSTANTLY ASK EARLY WHAT

55:56 WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE

55:58 WHEN WE SPEAK IN UH IN UM IN

56:00 THE CONTEXT OF EQUITY AND FOR

56:02 YOUR HOUSING SUCCESS LOOKS

56:03 LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE, UM,

56:05 RESIDENTS OF BOSTON BEING ABLE

56:07 TO LIVE WITH THEIR CHOOSE, YOU

56:08 KNOW, UM, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT

56:11 HAPPENS RIGHT NOW.

56:12 PEOPLE CAN'T PEOPLE.

56:14 ARE.

56:14 MOVING BROCKTON, FALL RIVER, UM

56:17 ,RANDOLPH ALL THESE KIND

56:18 OF PLACES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T

56:19 AFFORD TO LIVE IN BOSTON FOR

56:21 WHOLE LOTS OF DIFFERENT

56:21 REASONS.

56:22 UM, YOU KNOW, SO SUCCESS WOULD

56:23 LOOK LIKE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO

56:24 LIVE WITH EACH OTHER THE CITY

56:26 OF BOSTON.

56:27 BUT UM, IN TERMS OF OTHER OTHER

56:29 ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF HELPING

56:30 RUN THE EQUITY EQUITY AUDIT THE

56:32 PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS A HUGE

56:33 ROLE IN TERMS OF UM, CREATING

56:36 POLICIES AROUND THAT PIECE AND

56:37 IF YOU CAN'T I UM NAME AND

56:39 IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE

56:41 .

56:41 YOU CAN'T REALLY CREATE

56:42 SOLUTIONS.

56:42 SO THE EQUITY AUDIT IS

56:43 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN THAT

56:45 REGARD BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A

56:46 UM A BLUEPRINT ON THE FLOOR

56:48 PLAN RELATIVE TO HOW YOU GO

56:49 ABOUT DOING THAT AND ARE YOU

56:50 GOING TO OWN YOUR ROLE IN ANY

56:52 THIS KIND OF ISSUES THAT THAT

56:53 ARE IN PLACE?

56:54 SO UM THANK YOU.

56:55 THE FACT THAT IS.

56:56 IMPORTANT IF I COULD ADD ONE

56:57 THING REAL QUICK OKAY.

56:57 YEAH.

56:58 IS THAT IN OTHER CITIES THAT

56:59 THEY ARE DOING AND USING THEIR

57:01 AUDITS TO TO ACTUALLY DEFEND

57:02 THE CITY'S COMMITMENTS TO A

57:05 FAMILY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING

57:06 AGAINST ATTACKS FROM THE

57:07 FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION.

57:08 SO IT'S ONE PIECE ONE TIDBIT I

57:10 THINK OTHERS WILL TALK.

57:10 MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.

57:11 GOOD POINT.

57:12 UM, I ALSO WANT TO

57:13 ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF THE

57:14 PANELISTS MENTIONED THE WORK

57:16 OF UM FORMER CITY

57:18 COUNCILOR WOODY EDWARDS ON THIS

57:20 ISSUE.

57:20 I ALSO AGREE SHE WAS REALLY A

57:22 CHAMPION HERE ON THE CITY

57:23 COUNCIL.

57:24 BUT I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

57:25 ATTORNEY PEPPER HIS ENTIRE

57:27 CAREER OF WORKING ON THIS

57:29 ISSUE.

57:29 SO THANK YOU COUNCILOR COLE

57:31 PEPPER I DO THINK ONCE WE GET

57:34 AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR UM AT

57:36 FAIR HOUSING WE WAS A

57:38 TREMENDOUS LOSS WITH BOB

57:40 TERRELL AN OUTSTANDING

57:41 DEDICATED CITY EMPLOYEE.

57:42 BUT ONCE WE DO GET A AN

57:45 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MUCH

57:46 OF THIS WORK CAN GO FORWARD.

57:48 I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON,

57:51 UH, RESOURCES.

57:52 OF COURSE.

57:53 YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON IS NOT A

57:55 PANACEA, UH, NO MATTER HOW.

57:57 FABULOUS THAT PERSON IS.

57:59 SO THE RESOURCES IS GOING TO BE

58:00 VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ALONG THE

58:01 LINES THAT WE'VE BEEN

58:02 DISCUSSING.

58:03 THE THE CHALLENGE AGAIN HERE

58:05 FOR THE CITY OF.

58:06 BOSTON ONE IS.

58:07 HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD?

58:08 HOW DO WE PROTECT.

58:09 WHAT WE.

58:10 HAVE ALREADY GAINED, BUT HOW DO

58:12 WE CONTINUE RAISING PUBLIC.

58:13 AWARENESS ABOUT WHAT

58:14 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

58:16 HOUSING IS?

58:16 AND THAT FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR

58:18 HAS TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL THE

58:19 RESOURCES TO HAVE THAT

58:21 CONVERSATION ACROSS THE CITY

58:22 AND ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE REGION

58:24 IN MY OPINION.

58:25 THANK THANK YOU.

58:27 MY TIME IS ABOUT UP.

58:28 I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO MY

58:30 COLLEAGUES.

58:30 I DON'T WANT TO ASK ANY

58:31 QUESTIONS AFTER MY TIME IS UP.

58:32 THANK YOU MR CHAIR.

58:33 THANK YOU COUNCILOR I JUST

58:35 WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE

58:36 BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR.

58:37 THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

58:39 OKAY.

58:40 NOW WE WILL MOVE ON WITH

58:41 COUNCILOR AND MURPHY.

58:42 THANK YOU.

58:44 UM.

58:44 THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.

58:46 I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

58:48 HAVE THIS HEARING TODAY.

58:50 SO THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR AND

58:51 THE LEAD SPONSORS FOR BRINGING

58:53 THIS FORWARD.

58:54 AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED

58:55 COUNCILOR ARROYO AND I USE FROM

58:57 THE OTHER SPONSORS OFFICE TO

58:58 YOUR OFFICE FOR WORKING CLOSELY

59:00 WITH THE ADVOCATES, MAKING SURE

59:03 THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN

59:05 FRONT OF US SO WE CAN ASK THE

59:07 RIGHT QUESTIONS AND HEAR FROM

59:08 YOU DIRECTLY WHAT WE CAN BE

59:10 DOING, WHAT I CAN BE DOING MORE

59:11 TO SUPPORT THIS UM THE CITY HAS

59:14 MADE SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS

59:16 AROUND AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

59:17 FAIR HOUSING BUT COMMITMENTS

59:19 HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED BY

59:21 IMPLEMENTATION, MEASUREMENT AND

59:23 ACCOUNTABILITY.

59:24 BOSTON'S ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

59:25 HOUSING WAS THE RESULT OF YEARS

59:27 OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND

59:29 THE 2022 EXECUTIVE ORDER GAVE

59:31 THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AN

59:33 IMPORTANT ROLE IN MONITORING

59:34 HOW CITY DEPARTMENTS CARRY OUT

59:35 THOSE GOALS.

59:36 BUT BOSTON HAS CHANGED

59:39 CONSIDERABLY SINCE MUCH OF THAT

59:40 COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOK PLACE

59:41 .

59:42 HOUSING COSTS HAVE CONTINUED TO

59:43 RISE, DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES

59:45 HAVE INTENSIFIED IN PARTS

59:48 OF THE CITY AND THE CITY ITSELF

59:49 HAS NOW DEVELOPED A RESIDENTIAL

59:51 DISPLACEMENT RISK MAP TO BETTER

59:54 UNDERSTAND WHERE RESIDENTS ARE

59:54 MOST VULNERABLE.

59:56 WE ALSO KNOW THAT LONG STANDING

59:59 DISPARITIES IN ACCESS TO

1:00:00 HOMEOWNERSHIP REMAIN

1:00:02 SIGNIFICANT.

1:00:03 RECENT BOSTON FOUNDATION DATA

1:00:04 SHOW HOME OWNERSHIP RATES

1:00:06 OF ROUGHLY 73% FOR WHITE

1:00:10 HOUSEHOLDS, COMPARED WITH 40%

1:00:12 FOR BLACK HOUSEHOLDS AND 37%

1:00:14 FOR LATINO HOUSEHOLDS IN

1:00:16 GREATER BOSTON.

1:00:17 THOSE GAPS REFLECT DECADES

1:00:19 OF EXCLUSION AND DISCRIMINATION

1:00:21 IN HOUSING AND LENDING.

1:00:23 SO FOR ME TODAY THIS HEARING IS

1:00:26 REALLY ABOUT SOME

1:00:26 STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS WHERE

1:00:28 ARE WE NOW?

1:00:29 WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN

1:00:31 IMPLEMENTED, WHAT REMAINS

1:00:32 UNFINISHED AND WHAT IS THE

1:00:34 TIMELINE FOR THE NEXT PHASE

1:00:35 OF THIS WORK?

1:00:36 MANY OF YOU HAVE KIND

1:00:37 OF TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THAT

1:00:39 WITH YOUR I THINK VERY STRONG

1:00:41 AND YOU KNOW, UM, GOOD UM,

1:00:46 OVERALL LIKE OPENING.

1:00:47 STATEMENTS AND SHARING IN THE

1:00:48 QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF MY

1:00:49 COUNCILORS HAVE ALREADY ASKED.

1:00:52 ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WHICH I

1:00:53 KNOW WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON.

1:00:55 FILLING THOSE OPEN.

1:00:56 VACANCIES IS IMPORTANT BUT

1:00:57 THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.

1:00:58 ONE THING I THINK WE COULD

1:01:01 START UM WITH MY TIME HERE IS

1:01:03 IF WE CAME BACK HERE ONE YEAR

1:01:05 FROM TODAY, WHAT SPECIFIC

1:01:07 MEASURABLE CHANGES SHOULD WE

1:01:08 EXPECT TO SEE THAT WOULD

1:01:10 DEMONSTRATE BOSTON IS MAKING

1:01:12 MEANINGFUL PROGRESS IN

1:01:14 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

1:01:16 HOUSING.

1:01:21 UM, I'LL JUST SAY I THINK A.

1:01:24 LOT OF THE THINGS WE SAID IT

1:01:26 WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD AN

1:01:27 EQUITY AUDIT THAT REALLY LOOKED

1:01:29 AT ALL THE UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS

1:01:32 AND SEE HOW WELL WE ARE DOING

1:01:35 ON IMPLEMENTING A SFH.

1:01:37 UH, IF WE HAD A DIRECTOR AT THE

1:01:39 FAIR HOUSING OFFICE AND UH

1:01:43 STAFF AND THEY TOOK LEADERSHIP

1:01:46 OFF OF THIS, IF WE HAD A PERSON

1:01:49 COORDINATING THE FAIR HOUSING

1:01:51 WORK, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.

1:01:52 US UM UH LOOK AT IT AND ALSO.

1:01:57 TO ENSURE.

1:01:58 THAT UM, I THINK ARMANI SAID

1:02:00 THIS IN THE VERY BEGINNING.

1:02:02 THAT UM, HOW.

1:02:05 FAIR HOUSING SHAPES DEVELOPMENT

1:02:07 DECISIONS IN THIS CITY.

1:02:09 I KNOW THERE WERE LOTS

1:02:11 OF CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT

1:02:13 WHO.

1:02:14 ARE THE.

1:02:14 NEW WHO IS THE NEW HOUSING FOR

1:02:17 BUT WE HARDLY EVER SEE IS FAIR

1:02:20 HOUSING BEING CONSIDERED WHEN A

1:02:23 NEW DEVELOPMENT IS UH, BEING

1:02:26 PROPOSED WHETHER IT'S MARKET

1:02:27 RATE.

1:02:28 OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT ARE

1:02:31 THE.

1:02:31 UM UH.

1:02:32 WHAT ARE THE FAIR HOUSING

1:02:35 IMPLICATIONS?

1:02:36 SO I THINK WE'D LIKE TO.

1:02:37 WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THIS.

1:02:40 .

1:02:41 COUNCILOR READ ALL 200 PAGES

1:02:42 AND FELT LIKE AN EXPERT ON FAIR

1:02:44 HOUSING LIKE US ADVOCATES AND

1:02:46 COULD HELP US SHOW.

1:02:47 UP TO.

1:02:48 THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW,

1:02:49 DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS IN THE

1:02:50 COMMUNITIES THAT YOU REPRESENT

1:02:51 TO ADVOCATE FOR FAIR HOUSING.

1:02:54 UM, I THINK ALSO FROM THE CITY

1:02:55 ANGLE IT WOULD BE MAKING SURE

1:02:56 THAT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT

1:02:58 HAS INITIATED THEIR UM YOU

1:03:01 KNOW, THE STEPS THEY NEED TO

1:03:02 TAKE.

1:03:02 I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN

1:03:03 THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO

1:03:04 INITIATE THAT WE'VE HEARD LIKE

1:03:06 WE ARE TRYING TO CENTRALIZE ALL

1:03:07 LIKE YOU GO TO APPLY FOR

1:03:08 AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUR

1:03:09 ORGANIZATION WE SIT DOWN IN OUR

1:03:11 OFFICE, WE WELCOME PEOPLE AND

1:03:12 WE HELP THEM WITH THEIR ENERGY

1:03:13 BILLS APPLY FOR HOUSING AND ONE

1:03:14 THING THAT WE SEE IS YOU HAVE

1:03:16 TO SIT THERE AND IT'S A FULL

1:03:17 TIME JOB TO HELP SOMEONE APPLY

1:03:18 TO LIKE 20 DIFFERENT APPLICANT

1:03:19 YOU KNOW APPLICATIONS AND THEN

1:03:21 THERE'S A TWO WEEK PERIOD WHERE

1:03:23 YOU MIGHT QUALIFY AND THEN YOU

1:03:24 KNOW IT'S ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO

1:03:25 BE CENTRALIZED.

1:03:26 SO WE'RE WORKING WITH WE'VE

1:03:27 PUSHED ON THE CITY AS A PART

1:03:28 OF THIS ASSESSMENT TO

1:03:29 CENTRALIZE THAT THAT TAKES

1:03:30 TECHNOLOGY THAT I DON'T KNOW

1:03:32 HOW TO CREATE PERSONALLY.

1:03:33 RIGHT.

1:03:33 THE CITY HAS TO GO OUT AND FIND

1:03:35 THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT EXISTS

1:03:36 AND THAT TAKES TIME.

1:03:37 SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT TAKE

1:03:38 TIME BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT

1:03:39 DON'T TAKE TIME.

1:03:39 AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

1:03:40 THAT IN A YEAR ALL THE THINGS

1:03:42 THAT ARE NOT THINGS THAT ARE

1:03:43 STOPPED BY ACTUAL REASONS TO

1:03:45 STOP ARE MOVING FORWARD AND

1:03:47 THAT UM, THERE'S A COORDINATION

1:03:49 AND UH AND I THINK I'VE SAID

1:03:50 EARLIER THAT THE TRANSPARENCY

1:03:51 AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING I

1:03:52 THINK WE'VE SEEN A GOOD REPORT

1:03:53 OF FOLKS HAVING READ THEM

1:03:54 THERE'S STATUS UPDATES ON THE

1:03:56 UM ON THE ROLE THAT THE TICKETS

1:03:58 PLAYED IN PUSHING FOR MORE

1:04:00 INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT UNITS

1:04:01 ON THE ACTUALLY CONCLUSION OUR

1:04:02 ZONING IS A BIG PART OF THIS IS

1:04:04 HOW WE ASKED DEVELOPERS TO DO

1:04:05 MORE TO ACTUALLY UH, FIRMLY

1:04:07 FURTHER FAIR HOUSING IS

1:04:08 BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS

1:04:09 .

1:04:09 I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC.

1:04:10 WE NEED TO BUILD MORE OF THEM

1:04:11 NOT LESS.

1:04:12 AND SO THAT'S A BIG WAY THAT WE

1:04:13 IN THE CITY HAS SHOWN THAT

1:04:15 THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH

1:04:15 THROUGH THIS AGENCY TO DO THAT.

1:04:17 AND SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.

1:04:18 YEAH.

1:04:20 SO SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT.

1:04:21 WOULD REALLY.

1:04:22 HELP IS UM YOU KNOW AND AND UH

1:04:25 JAMES MENTIONED THAT AN ED IS

1:04:27 NOT A PANACEA UM, BECAUSE IT

1:04:29 KIND OF ED BY ITSELF WON'T

1:04:30 SOLVE A LOT OF YOUR OWN ISSUES.

1:04:32 THAT'LL HELP.

1:04:32 BUT I THINK PART OF THE THE.

1:04:33 LARGER ISSUE THOUGH.

1:04:35 IS THAT UM, YOU COULD ASK

1:04:36 ANY CITY DEPARTMENT UH UM, WHAT

1:04:39 THE DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING

1:04:40 EQUITY IS AND EVERYONE WOULD.

1:04:41 HAVE A.

1:04:42 DIFFERENT DIFFERENT

1:04:42 DEFINITION.

1:04:43 I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE

1:04:44 PROBLEM SO THAT THERE HAS TO BE

1:04:46 SOME EFFORT TO KIND OF CREATE

1:04:47 SOME KIND OF UNIVERSAL

1:04:48 UNDERSTANDING A FRAMEWORK WHAT

1:04:50 DEFINES UH EQUITY, WHAT DEFINES

1:04:51 FAIR HOUSING AND THEN HAVING

1:04:53 SOME KIND OF UH SOME KIND

1:04:54 OF UNDER UM WHAT SHOULD I SAY

1:04:56 SOME KIND OF MANDATE.

1:04:58 THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS.

1:04:59 ALL ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS

1:05:00 BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK WHAT

1:05:02 PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO THEIR

1:05:03 BEST TO KIND OF RESPOND TO THE

1:05:04 THE GOALS AND.

1:05:06 A FH.

1:05:07 IT STILL.

1:05:08 FEELS LIKE UH SILOED IT'S NOT

1:05:09 REALLY INTEGRATED INTO A LARGER

1:05:10 EQUITY UM UH KIND OF EQUITY

1:05:12 MANDATE FOR THE CITY.

1:05:14 SO I THINK THAT.

1:05:15 HAS.

1:05:16 TO BE LED BY SOMEONE SOMEONE

1:05:17 HAS TO COORDINATE THAT OR

1:05:18 SOMEONE HAS TO DEFINE THAT AND

1:05:20 ONE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE

1:05:21 GOALS UM UH THE 14 GOALS THEY

1:05:23 HAVE 14 GOAL CATEGORIES THAT

1:05:24 ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND.

1:05:25 WHAT IS 14 GOAL CATEGORIES.

1:05:28 BUT IT'S.

1:05:29 OVER 20 GOALS.

1:05:30 THANK YOU.

1:05:31 UM I KNOW MY TIME IS UP BUT ONE

1:05:33 BIG TAKEAWAY I THINK IS ALL

1:05:36 CITY DEPARTMENTS OFTENTIMES

1:05:38 SOMETHING THIS BIG IT DOES TAKE

1:05:40 EVERY DEPARTMENT AND I.

1:05:41 THINK SOMETIMES LIKE YOU.

1:05:42 MENTIONED IT'S NOT THE FAULT

1:05:44 OF ANY INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT

1:05:45 BUT HOW DO WE AS COUNCIL MAKE

1:05:47 SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE.

1:05:49 YOU KNOW TOOLED RIGHT.

1:05:51 WE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS.

1:05:52 THEY NEED.

1:05:52 AND IF THAT'S YOU KNOW, A

1:05:55 MOTTO, YOU KNOW WHATEVER IT IS

1:05:57 MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THEIR.

1:05:58 DECISIONS BECAUSE MANY TIMES

1:05:59 YOU MENTIONED ESD AND OTHER

1:06:01 OBVIOUS ONES BUT I DO BELIEVE

1:06:03 THAT YOU KNOW ED STRONG OUR

1:06:05 COMMUNITY CENTERS, OUR SCHOOL

1:06:06 DEPARTMENT EVERY DEPARTMENT

1:06:08 PLAYS A.

1:06:09 DEEP AND STRONG COMMITMENT AND

1:06:10 ROLE IN TO.

1:06:11 FAIR HOUSING.

1:06:12 ACROSS THE CITY.

1:06:13 SO THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:06:15 THANK YOU COUNCILOR BREADON

1:06:17 FLOOR IS YOURS.

1:06:21 THANK YOU.

1:06:22 THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND THANK

1:06:23 YOU ALL.

1:06:24 THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION A

1:06:26 VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ONE.

1:06:27 UM, I'D LIKE TO HONE IN ON YOU

1:06:29 KNOW, THE ARTICLE THE UM THE

1:06:31 ZONING AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES

1:06:33 MAJOR RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED

1:06:34 USE.

1:06:35 DEVELOPMENT TO ASSESS AND

1:06:36 MITIGATE DISPLACEMENT RISKS AND

1:06:38 HISTORICAL HOUSING EXCLUSION.

1:06:40 I THINK WE'VE MANAGED TO ONE

1:06:44 OF THE THINGS MY MY MAIDEN

1:06:45 SPEECH WHEN I CAME INTO

1:06:47 COUNCIL FIRST WAS ABOUT THE

1:06:48 IMPORTANCE OF BUILDING FAMILY

1:06:50 HOUSING UNITS DIRECTLY DESIGNED

1:06:51 AND AMENITIES FOR FAMILIES LIKE

1:06:54 AND THAT WAS DRIVEN BY AN

1:06:56 EXPERIENCE I HAD ON UM,

1:06:57 WITNESSING A DEVELOPMENT

1:06:59 PROJECT ON A BIG PROJECT IN

1:07:01 BRIGHTON THAT HAD 150 UNITS AND

1:07:04 UM, SOMEONE IN THE IN THE

1:07:07 COMMUNITY ASKED WELL WHERE'S

1:07:08 YOUR PLAYGROUND?

1:07:10 AND THEY SAID OUT LOUD IN FRONT

1:07:12 OF A BIG CROWD SAID OH WE'RE

1:07:14 NOT BUILDING FOR FAMILIES LIKE

1:07:15 I THINK THAT'S TECHNICALLY

1:07:17 ILLEGAL.

1:07:19 BUT ANYWAY UM SO AS TO YOUR

1:07:22 POINT EARLIER ABOUT BUILDING

1:07:23 STUDIOS ONE BEDROOMS WE I THINK

1:07:25 FOR US THE CHALLENGE AND THAT

1:07:27 HAS BEEN AND I THINK WE'RE

1:07:29 MAKING SOME PROGRESS UH, TO GET

1:07:31 DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MORE UM

1:07:33 UNITS THAT ARE AT LEAST CAPABLE

1:07:35 OF HOUSING A SMALL FAMILY A TWO

1:07:37 BEDROOM IS BETTER THAN A

1:07:38 STUDIO.

1:07:39 AND A THREE BEDROOM IS

1:07:40 DEFINITELY BETTER THAN A ONE

1:07:42 BEDROOM IF YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE

1:07:44 KIDS.

1:07:44 BUT TO YOUR POINT JUST HOW CAN

1:07:48 WE HOW CAN WE WHAT'S THE VISION

1:07:51 ON HOW TO INTEGRATE FAIR

1:07:52 HOUSING ACROSS THE DIFFERENT

1:07:53 DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY AND IN

1:07:55 THIS MOMENT OF SORT OF REALLY

1:07:57 DIFFICULTY IN TERMS OF DRIVING

1:08:00 AND GETTING DEVELOPMENT BUILT,

1:08:02 UM, HOW CAN WE MANAGE TO

1:08:04 NAVIGATE THAT AND STILL INSIST

1:08:06 ON OUR IDP UNITS LIKE THE FIRST

1:08:08 THING ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK I

1:08:09 THINK IS OUR IDP UNITS THAT

1:08:11 WE'VE FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET AND

1:08:13 WE'VE ALSO FOUGHT TO GET A

1:08:14 RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY IN

1:08:16 AUSTIN, BRIGHTON IN 2016 2019

1:08:20 THE IDP UNITS WERE PEGGED AT

1:08:21 70% OF THE AM I EVEN THOUGH THE

1:08:24 MEDIAN INCOME IN ALLSTON

1:08:25 BRIGHTON WAS WAS 45 TO 50%

1:08:28 OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.

1:08:30 SO WE'RE BUILDING HOUSING THAT

1:08:31 NONE OF US KNOW PEOPLE PEOPLE

1:08:33 COULDN'T AFFORD IN ALL US IN

1:08:34 BRIGHTON.

1:08:34 SO UM LIKE HOW DO WE MANAGE

1:08:37 THIS MOMENT OF CRISIS LIKE

1:08:39 INSIST THAT WE KEEP OUR IDP

1:08:41 UNITS AND AND HOPEFULLY GET

1:08:43 SOMETHING BUILT BUT ANY

1:08:45 THOUGHTS?

1:08:45 AND ALSO YOU SAID IN YOUR

1:08:47 COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT YOU KNOW

1:08:49 ,NO REPORTS THAT THERE'S SOME

1:08:52 DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE JUST NOT

1:08:53 GETTING ANY DATA FROM LIKE I'D

1:08:54 LOVE TO GET HEAR MORE ABOUT

1:08:55 THAT AS WELL.

1:08:57 SO SO THIS IS UH I THINK.

1:09:00 THE.

1:09:00 THE ISSUE THE QUESTION THE

1:09:01 CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE RAISING

1:09:02 IS BEING FACED BY CITIES ACROSS

1:09:05 THE COUNTRY.

1:09:06 OF COURSE.

1:09:08 UH UH I GUESS I.

1:09:09 WOULD HAVE.

1:09:10 TWO QUICK RESPONSES BUT THIS IS

1:09:12 YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TAKE MUCH

1:09:13 MORE THOUGHT TO TO GET AT

1:09:15 SOMETHING UH, CONCRETE IN

1:09:17 RESPONSE.

1:09:18 BUT TWO QUICK.

1:09:20 UH THOUGHTS IS ONE UH AS WE AS

1:09:23 THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

1:09:26 UH UH INDICATES UH.

1:09:28 WE HAVE.

1:09:29 TO RAISE CONSCIOUSNESS ABOUT

1:09:32 HOW.

1:09:32 ALL THESE FIELDS.

1:09:34 OF LIFE ARE INTERCONNECTED.

1:09:36 UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER,

1:09:38 HOUSING IS NOT JUST HOUSING.

1:09:39 HOUSING IS EVERYTHING.

1:09:40 ELSE AND.

1:09:42 EVERYTHING ELSE IS HOUSING.

1:09:43 AND SO HOW.

1:09:44 DO WE TO MEET THE CHALLENGE.

1:09:46 WOULD BE.

1:09:47 HOW DO WE.

1:09:47 GET PEOPLE TO THINK MORE

1:09:48 ALONG THAT LINE?

1:09:49 CITY LEADERS.

1:09:50 BUT.

1:09:50 ALSO THE CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS

1:09:52 UH AND PERHAPS PERHAPS THIS IS

1:09:54 A UH QUICK EXAMPLE.

1:09:57 UH, IN BOSTON WE HAVE.

1:09:59 VERY, VERY HIGH.

1:10:01 BLACK AND BROWN YOUTH

1:10:03 UNEMPLOYMENT RATES SOMETHING

1:10:04 THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.

1:10:05 WE USED TO TALK ABOUT A LOT BUT

1:10:06 NOW WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.

1:10:07 WHEN YOU LOOK AT.

1:10:08 BLACK YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT.

1:10:10 RATES AND LATINO.

1:10:12 UH.

1:10:13 MOSTLY MALES.

1:10:14 BUT.

1:10:14 NOT EXCLUSIVELY MALES

1:10:15 UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.

1:10:16 THEY STILL ARE 2.

1:10:18 OR 3 TIMES HIGHER.

1:10:20 THAN THE EMPLOYMENT RATES

1:10:21 OF COMPARABLE WHITES WHO ARE

1:10:22 NOT LATINO OR LATINO.

1:10:24 AND SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

1:10:26 WELL, HOW WOULD THIS

1:10:29 CONSCIOUSNESS OF INTO SECTORAL.

1:10:31 THINKING BE DEALT WITH?

1:10:33 WELL WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN

1:10:35 PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

1:10:36 WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN ALL

1:10:38 KINDS OF THINGS.

1:10:39 WHEN DO WE START.

1:10:40 ASKING HOW DO WE USE THOSE.

1:10:41 INVESTMENTS MAYBE TO INCREASE

1:10:43 ACCESS TO APPRENTICESHIP

1:10:44 PROGRAMS?

1:10:45 HOW DO WE USE.

1:10:46 THOSE INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC

1:10:47 TRANSPORTATION TO SAY WE.

1:10:49 WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE.

1:10:50 JOBS THAT ARE GENERATED BY IT

1:10:52 DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUBLIC

1:10:54 TRANSPORTATION, IT COULD BE

1:10:55 HOUSING.

1:10:55 I EVALUATED I EVALUATED THE.

1:10:57 DEMONSTRATION DISPOSITION

1:10:59 PROGRAM AS YOU KNOW, CITY

1:11:01 COUNCILOR CULPEPER.

1:11:02 AND WE MADE STRONG.

1:11:03 CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ANYTHING

1:11:04 THAT WAS BEING BUILT.

1:11:06 IN SECTION.

1:11:06 THREE THAT IS EMPLOYMENT FOR.

1:11:09 LOCAL RESIDENTS.

1:11:10 AND IT WAS A SUCCESS.

1:11:11 AND SO WE HAVE TO START

1:11:12 THINKING.

1:11:12 MORE ALONG.

1:11:13 THAT LINES PERHAPS ANOTHER

1:11:15 EXAMPLE AND BY.

1:11:16 THE.

1:11:16 WAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE

1:11:17 UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES THIS IS

1:11:19 NOT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE.

1:11:21 THEY'VE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN.

1:11:22 THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY A

1:11:23 GAP.

1:11:24 IN THE.

1:11:25 CITY OF BOSTON WITH WHITE

1:11:27 UNEMPLOYMENT AND WHITE

1:11:28 EMPLOYMENT RATES.

1:11:29 UH, BUT ANOTHER.

1:11:31 EXAMPLE THAT I'VE BEEN THINKING

1:11:33 ABOUT LATELY BASED ON SOME.

1:11:35 WORK I DID WITH DUDLEY STREET.

1:11:36 NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVE.

1:11:37 ON COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND.

1:11:38 COMMUNITY WEALTH.

1:11:40 IS ONE OF THE FIGURES THAT I

1:11:41 CAME ACROSS IS THE NUMBER.

1:11:44 OF VACANT UNITS IN BOSTON.

1:11:45 THAT ARE OFF THE MARKET.

1:11:47 NOT VACANT UNITS.

1:11:48 THAT ARE FOR SALE OR FOR

1:11:50 RENTING.

1:11:51 THEY'RE OFF THE MARKET AND

1:11:52 THERE.

1:11:53 ARE HUNDREDS OF VACANT UNITS

1:11:54 .

1:11:54 SO HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT

1:11:56 AS.

1:11:56 A RESOURCE AS AN ASSET?

1:11:58 HOW DO WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO

1:11:59 WE'RE GOING TO TAKE.

1:12:00 ON THOSE VACANT UNITS.

1:12:01 AND INVEST IN THOSE VACANT

1:12:03 UNITS IN SOME WAY.

1:12:04 SOMEHOW THAT'S GOING TO MAKE

1:12:06 THE CITY BETTER.

1:12:07 SO I'M I GUESS.

1:12:08 I'M SUGGESTING IT.

1:12:08 MAYBE IN.

1:12:09 A SIMPLISTIC WAY THAT UH

1:12:11 THAT'S THE KIND

1:12:12 OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT'S THE

1:12:13 KIND OF NARRATIVE THAT'S THE

1:12:14 KIND OF DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO

1:12:15 HAVE TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.

1:12:17 SO IN TERMS OF NEEDING.

1:12:18 IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD BE MY

1:12:20 VOTE.

1:12:22 THANK YOU.

1:12:24 GO AHEAD.

1:12:24 YEAH.

1:12:25 IF YOU SAY THAT DIRECTLY

1:12:26 RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION AROUND

1:12:27 INCLUSIONARY ZONING LIKE IN

1:12:29 THIS MOMENT WHERE THINGS ARE

1:12:30 TOUGH.

1:12:30 I MEAN THE CITY OF BOSTON DID

1:12:32 NOT CREATE THE HIGH COST OF UH

1:12:34 ,STEEL AND THE DID NOT CREATE

1:12:35 THE TOWER SITUATION DID NOT

1:12:36 CREATE ALL OF THE FEDERAL

1:12:37 ISSUES THAT FRANKLY A LOT

1:12:39 OF THE PEOPLE.

1:12:39 WHO.

1:12:40 ARE POOR.

1:12:40 DEVELOPMENT I'M NOT GOING TO

1:12:42 REALLY FULLY GO THERE, BUT I

1:12:43 FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO

1:12:44 SUPPORTED DEVELOPMENT NEED TO

1:12:45 PUT MORE CRITICISM MAYBE

1:12:46 TOWARDS THE PERSON WHO HAS MORE

1:12:47 CONTROL OF.

1:12:47 THE FEDERAL.

1:12:48 GOVERNMENT AND LEAVE

1:12:49 INCLUSIONARY ZONING ALONE.

1:12:51 UM, WE NEED LIKE THE CITY

1:12:53 OF BOSTON THAT'S THEIR MAIN

1:12:54 TOOL THAT ALLOWS FOR FAIR

1:12:56 HOUSING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.

1:12:57 SO YOU CAN'T BE BOTH ANTI

1:12:59 INCLUSIONARY ZONING TO BUILD

1:13:00 HOUSING FOR YOU KNOW YOU KNOW

1:13:03 IMAGINARY PEOPLE BUT THEN SAY

1:13:04 THAT YOU'RE FOR FAIR HOUSING

1:13:06 WINNING UM SO IT JUST DOESN'T

1:13:07 WORK.

1:13:07 SO I.

1:13:08 THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT

1:13:09 NEEDS TO BE DEFENDED AND AND IT

1:13:10 GETS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS IT'S

1:13:11 ALREADY HAPPENING TO TO A

1:13:13 CERTAIN EXTENT AND WE HAVE

1:13:14 THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH

1:13:15 DEPARTMENTS COMMON AT ONE POINT

1:13:17 DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY GOT TO

1:13:18 LISTEN IN ON WHAT OTHER

1:13:19 DEPARTMENTS WERE DOING AND I

1:13:21 THINK THAT WAS A I THINK A UH

1:13:22 CAPACITY LIKE OURS TIME

1:13:24 BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ALL THESE

1:13:25 DEPARTMENT HEADS YOU CAN BARELY

1:13:26 GET A MEETING ONE ON ONE LET

1:13:28 ALONE ALL THEM TOGETHER.

1:13:28 BUT THAT KIND OF CONVENING

1:13:29 POWER IS WHAT THE MAYOR HAS AND

1:13:31 A STRONG LEADER SYSTEM.

1:13:32 AND I THINK THAT COULD BE USED

1:13:33 TO MAKE SURE THOSE DEPARTMENTS

1:13:35 UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING

1:13:36 ACROSS THEM.

1:13:36 AND IT REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE

1:13:38 A DIRECTIVE FROM ON HIGH I

1:13:39 THINK YOU KNOW WE HEAR LIKE

1:13:40 MINIMUM DONNIE TALK, YOU.

1:13:41 KNOW VERY FERVENTLY ABOUT FAIR

1:13:43 HOUSING AND THE NEED FOR BLACK

1:13:44 FAMILIES AND UH, PEOPLE HARMED

1:13:46 BY FAIR HOUSING TO TO EXIST.

1:13:47 UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

1:13:49 INCLUSIONARY ZONING WITHOUT

1:13:49 THAT YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF MARKET

1:13:51 RATE HOUSING BEING BUILT

1:13:52 BASICALLY ALLOWING SEGREGATION

1:13:54 TO AS A CITY POLICY.

1:13:55 AND SO I THINK THE CITY NEEDS

1:13:57 TO COME OUT AND SAY NO, WE'RE

1:13:57 ANTI SEGREGATION LIKE WE'RE PRO

1:13:59 UH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE

1:14:00 FAIR HOUSING.

1:14:03 SO THANK YOU.

1:14:03 CAME UP THANK YOU.

1:14:06 AND I'M SORRY FOR BEING SO

1:14:08 STRICT ON TIME IT JUST I'M GLAD

1:14:09 TO SEE THE CHAMBER FULL WITH MY

1:14:10 COLLEAGUES AND I WANT TO MAKE

1:14:11 SURE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO

1:14:12 SPEAK.

1:14:13 UM, OKAY.

1:14:14 NEXT UP I HAVE COUNCILOR WEBER

1:14:16 .

1:14:16 OKAY.

1:14:17 YEAH, UH, FOLLOWING.

1:14:18 UP ON ARMANI'S POINT.

1:14:21 .

1:14:21 RIGHT.

1:14:21 SO I.

1:14:22 UH.

1:14:22 A LAW PROFESSOR.

1:14:23 UH.

1:14:24 I WAS I REMEMBER ASKING.

1:14:25 HIM.

1:14:25 YOU KNOW, FOR MINIMUM WAGE.

1:14:27 UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT BETTER TO,

1:14:30 YOU.

1:14:31 KNOW.

1:14:31 EVEN HAVE A JOB EVEN.

1:14:32 IF PAYS LESS THAN MINIMUM

1:14:33 WAGE?

1:14:33 AND HE SAID THINK.

1:14:35 OF IT AS LIKE A.

1:14:36 AS A BUSINESS.

1:14:36 EFFICIENCY STANDARD IF YOU.

1:14:38 CAN'T.

1:14:38 HAVE A BUSINESS THAT.

1:14:39 PAYS MINIMUM WAGE WE DON'T WANT

1:14:40 YOU IN BUSINESS.

1:14:40 SO I KIND OF THINK.

1:14:41 ABOUT INCLUSIONARY.

1:14:43 ZONING IN THE SAME WAY LIKE IF

1:14:44 YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO

1:14:45 BUILD HOUSING WITH AFFORDABLE

1:14:47 UNITS LIKE.

1:14:48 WE DON'T.

1:14:49 WANT YOU IN THE DEVELOPMENT.

1:14:51 BUSINESS HERE IN BOSTON.

1:14:52 BUT I GUESS TO THE OTHER.

1:14:53 PANELISTS YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE

1:14:54 THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT.

1:14:56 IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO BUILD

1:14:58 HOUSING AND.

1:14:59 YOU KNOW WE NEED TO.

1:14:59 BRING THESE REQUIREMENTS DOWN

1:15:01 I.

1:15:01 GUESS WHAT.

1:15:02 WOULD YOU HAVE TO.

1:15:03 SAY TO US THAT.

1:15:04 WE HEARD.

1:15:05 FROM OUR I MEAN, THAT BIG

1:15:06 LOT THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN THE

1:15:07 BIG CENTRAL PIECE OF THAT

1:15:08 ARGUMENT AROUND LIKE IN

1:15:09 CAMBRIDGE LIKE THERE'S A BIG

1:15:10 LOT A DEVELOPER COULDN'T BUILD

1:15:11 BECAUSE OF INCLUSIONARY

1:15:12 DEVELOPMENT.

1:15:13 THAT LOT WASN'T BUILT BY THAT

1:15:15 DEVELOPER WITH, YOU KNOW, BARE

1:15:16 MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY BUT IT'S

1:15:18 NOW BEING BOUGHT BY AFFORDABLE

1:15:20 HOUSING DEVELOPER AND DOING 66

1:15:21 UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

1:15:23 SO MAYBE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

1:15:25 DEVELOPERS NEED TO TAKE THE

1:15:25 LEAD ON DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY

1:15:27 IF PRIVATE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT

1:15:29 ABLE TO DO IT.

1:15:32 ANYONE ELSE YOU KNOW?

1:15:34 UH YEAH I.

1:15:35 THINK I THINK UM.

1:15:38 UH THAT WE NEED TO AGAIN.

1:15:42 LOOK TOWARDS INNOVATION TO A

1:15:44 CERTAIN EXTENT.

1:15:44 AND THERE MAY BE THINGS.

1:15:46 POTENTIAL INNOVATIONS THAT

1:15:47 WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT.

1:15:48 I MENTIONED THE VACANT UNITS

1:15:50 GOVERNMENT CAN HELP.

1:15:51 DEVELOP THOSE VACANT UNITS.

1:15:53 INTO AFFORDABLE SPACES.

1:15:56 UH.

1:15:57 WE NEED TO.

1:16:00 UH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS

1:16:02 VERY COSTLY TO BUILD, BUT

1:16:05 PERHAPS THAT CALLS FOR A.

1:16:06 GREATER GOVERNMENT.

1:16:08 LEADERSHIP AND INVOLVEMENT WITH

1:16:10 SUBSIDIES.

1:16:11 OR ALL KINDS OF ECONOMIC.

1:16:13 UH.

1:16:14 TOOLS THAT CAN PERHAPS LOWER

1:16:16 THE COSTS.

1:16:17 UH.

1:16:18 THE BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO

1:16:20 THE DEVELOPERS IS THAT WE

1:16:21 SHOULD NOT GET INTO A ZERO SUM

1:16:23 SITUATION THAT IS YOU BUILD BUT

1:16:26 THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOMES.

1:16:27 AND I THINK.

1:16:29 WE HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE

1:16:31 DEBATE.

1:16:31 INTENSIVELY PERHAPS BUT FIGURE

1:16:32 OUT HOW TO MOVE.

1:16:33 FORWARD BECAUSE UH, WE CANNOT

1:16:36 HAVE A CITY IN BOSTON.

1:16:38 WHERE UH.

1:16:40 AGAIN UH.

1:16:41 DEVELOPMENT UH BASICALLY.

1:16:44 IS COULD.

1:16:44 CHANGE THE FACE OF BOSTON

1:16:45 AND THE PROGRESS.

1:16:46 THAT WE'VE MADE.

1:16:47 AS LINCOLN.

1:16:48 MENTIONED, PEOPLE.

1:16:49 ARE.

1:16:49 LEAVING THE CITY NOT JUST

1:16:50 MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE BUT ALSO

1:16:51 WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.

1:16:52 THIS THAT'S A.

1:16:54 MAJOR ECONOMIC THREAT TO THE

1:16:55 SURVIVAL OF THE CITY.

1:16:56 AND SO YES, WE.

1:16:59 UNDERSTAND COSTS HAVE GONE UP

1:17:01 BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW

1:17:02 TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH.

1:17:04 UH WITH WITH NOT GOING

1:17:06 BACKWARDS ON THE COMMITMENT

1:17:07 WE'VE MADE TO HELP PEOPLE WHO

1:17:11 ARE.

1:17:11 AT CERTAIN COST.

1:17:13 ONE THAT HAS ONE CITY WHICH IS

1:17:16 THERE'S.

1:17:16 NOTHING IN THE FAIR HOUSING

1:17:19 LAWS THAT SAYS EXCEPT IF IT'S

1:17:22 ECONOMICALLY NOT FEASIBLE.

1:17:24 AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY

1:17:26 IMPORTANT WE CAN ALWAYS USE THE

1:17:30 ECONOMICS AS AN EXCUSE TO DENY

1:17:32 PEOPLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES

1:17:34 AND THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT.

1:17:37 WE WANT.

1:17:38 TO DO AS A CITY AS.

1:17:40 UH A COUNTRY IT DOESN'T MEET

1:17:43 OUR VALUES AND I THINK THE LAW

1:17:45 IS CLEAR YOU HAVE TO ENSURE

1:17:49 EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND HOUSING

1:17:50 AND THAT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS

1:17:52 .

1:17:52 IT'S LIKE.

1:17:53 WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE

1:17:55 BEDROOM SIZE IF YOU HAVE THE

1:17:58 NEEDS OF FAMILIES WITH TWO AND

1:18:00 THREE KIDS BUILDING ONE BEDROOM

1:18:03 HOUSING ONLY DISCRIMINATES

1:18:06 AGAINST THOSE FAMILIES.

1:18:08 SO UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE

1:18:12 TENSION AND I REALLY APPRECIATE

1:18:14 IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD

1:18:16 LET OUR, UH, FAIR HOUSING

1:18:19 COMMITMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE

1:18:20 WAY TO WHAT'S ECONOMICALLY

1:18:22 FEASIBLE FOR DEVELOPERS.

1:18:24 AND IF I CAN JUST ADD SOMETHING

1:18:25 GREAT QUICKLY JUST A FOOTNOTE

1:18:28 ACTUALLY.

1:18:28 I THINK.

1:18:28 THIS WAS IN THE BAY STATE.

1:18:29 BANNER BUT.

1:18:31 WE ALSO HAVE.

1:18:32 EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENTS.

1:18:33 WELL.

1:18:34 VERY PRO AFFORDABILITY.

1:18:35 YES.

1:18:35 AND SO.

1:18:36 MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK TO THEM

1:18:37 AND BRING.

1:18:37 THEM TO THE TABLE AND SAY HOW.

1:18:39 IS IT THAT.

1:18:39 YOU BUILT THIS I FORGET

1:18:40 WHERE SOMEPLACE IN IT UH IT'S.

1:18:43 SOMEWHERE JP.

1:18:44 I MAYBE.

1:18:45 WITH JP I FORGET BUT IT WAS

1:18:46 JUST A DAY.

1:18:47 OR TWO.

1:18:47 AGO AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY

1:18:49 INSTANCE THAT I'VE COME ACROSS

1:18:51 INFORMATION ABOUT DEVELOPERS

1:18:52 WHO ARE COMMITTED TO

1:18:54 AFFORDABILITY.

1:18:55 THEY'RE NOT THE BIG TIME

1:18:56 DEVELOPERS.

1:18:57 BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK.

1:18:58 TO THEM TO SAY WELL.

1:18:59 HOW DO YOU DO IT?

1:19:02 BECAUSE UH.

1:19:02 THEY'RE DOING IT TO A

1:19:03 CERTAIN EXTENT.

1:19:03 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

1:19:06 AND I MEAN I THINK PART OF IT

1:19:08 IS UM, SO THE DEVELOPERS.

1:19:10 ARE FOR THE MOST PART.

1:19:11 ARE KIND OF UM GROUNDED IN WHAT

1:19:13 WORKS FOR THEM.

1:19:15 SO THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD UH,

1:19:16 BASED ON THEIR BOTTOM LINE

1:19:18 EXCEPT LIKE CDC IS WE HAVE A

1:19:19 DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK BUT.

1:19:21 I THINK THERE'S A.

1:19:22 ROLE FOR.

1:19:22 GOVERNMENT TO PLAY IT AND I

1:19:23 CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT.

1:19:24 THE ROLE IS, BUT I THINK

1:19:25 GOVERNMENT.

1:19:26 GOVERNMENT OFTENTIMES THINKS

1:19:27 WELL, UM, THIS IS NOT OUR

1:19:29 SPACE.

1:19:30 WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO

1:19:31 X AND.

1:19:32 BUT BUT I THINK THAT.

1:19:34 THAT PERSPECTIVE.

1:19:35 KIND.

1:19:36 OF A000.

1:19:37 FROM REALLY BEING INNOVATIVE

1:19:38 AND KIND OF THINKING THROUGH

1:19:39 DIFFERENT THINGS THAT.

1:19:40 CAN.

1:19:40 GET DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING

1:19:41 AROUND SAYING SAYING YOU KNOW,

1:19:42 UM, THIS IS NOT MY DOMAIN.

1:19:43 I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

1:19:44 SO THEN YOU ARE JUST UM FOR THE

1:19:46 MOST PART UM, YOUR REACTIVE.

1:19:49 TO WHAT.

1:19:51 DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DO NOW.

1:19:52 UM I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE UM

1:19:55 CONSOLE WORLD IS WORKING ON

1:19:56 SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE SB UH

1:19:57 SPECIAL PROTECTIONS ON

1:19:58 ORDINANCE UM AND SO ON AND SO

1:20:00 FORTH.

1:20:00 BUT I THINK.

1:20:01 A LARGE PART OF THAT IS HOW.

1:20:03 YOU MENTIONED INNOVATION

1:20:04 EARLIER AND UM AND THAT COULD

1:20:06 TAKE UM ON MANY DIFFERENT ROLES

1:20:08 BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF.

1:20:09 GOVERNMENT IS SITTING AROUND

1:20:10 SAYING WE CAN'T DO X.

1:20:13 THEN THEN YOU CAN'T DO X, YOU

1:20:15 KNOW, SO HOW DO YOU SHIFT.

1:20:16 THE FRAME.

1:20:17 AND REALLY UTILIZE.

1:20:19 THE.

1:20:19 POWER THAT.

1:20:19 YOU HAVE.

1:20:20 TO ACTUALLY MAKE SOME OF THESE

1:20:21 CHANGES HAPPEN?

1:20:22 I MEAN I THINK THERE'S A SPACE

1:20:23 OF GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED,

1:20:24 UM THE KIND OF PUSH DEVELOPERS

1:20:25 GOT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT

1:20:27 YOU CAN'T DO IT IF YOU'RE

1:20:28 SITTING THERE AND SAYING WELL.

1:20:29 I.

1:20:29 CAN'T DO ANYTHING.

1:20:30 I JUST NEED US DO THIS, OKAY?

1:20:32 THANK YOU.

1:20:33 THANKS TO THE PANEL FOR

1:20:35 FILIBUSTERING.

1:20:35 ME, BUT, UH.

1:20:39 UH THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

1:20:40 CHAIR I THINK I'M.

1:20:42 REALLY LUCKY WE'RE NOT THE U.S.

1:20:44 SENATE.

1:20:44 IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.

1:20:46 BUT NOW THANK YOU FOR YOUR

1:20:48 ANSWERS.

1:20:49 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

1:20:53 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:20:54 APPRECIATE IT.

1:20:55 UH, AND THANK.

1:20:56 YOU, PANEL, FOR BEING WITH

1:20:57 US HERE TODAY.

1:20:58 UM, FIRST I WANT TO.

1:20:59 SAY I THINK THANK YOU.

1:21:00 OF UH.

1:21:01 CONTINUING THE CENTER UH.

1:21:02 FAIR HOUSING RIGHTS.

1:21:04 AS AN INTERSECTION OF EDUCATION

1:21:06 ,OF PUBLIC HEALTH, OF UH

1:21:08 OF PUBLIC SAFETY.

1:21:09 UH, I THINK IT'S CONTINUE TO TO

1:21:11 TO VIEW IT IN THAT LENS THAT IT

1:21:13 REALLY IS UH A BROADER UH, SORT

1:21:16 OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING

1:21:17 ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE

1:21:19 HAVE FAIR HOUSING AND WHAT IT

1:21:20 ATTRIBUTES.

1:21:21 TO UM SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS

1:21:22 JUST KEEPING THAT AT THE

1:21:23 CENTER.

1:21:24 IT HELPS ME.

1:21:24 STAY FOCUSED AS WELL.

1:21:26 UM.

1:21:27 A COUPLE OF THINGS.

1:21:28 UH, AND I GUESS I'LL GET MY

1:21:30 QUESTIONS OUT BEFORE I LET YOU

1:21:31 GUYS ANSWER SHOT AND IT'LL GIVE

1:21:33 YOU GUYS TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT

1:21:34 AS WELL.

1:21:35 RIGHT.

1:21:36 UM.

1:21:36 BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO

1:21:38 THINK ABOUT.

1:21:38 WAS, UH, ARE THERE ANY STATS

1:21:39 THAT STAND OUT TO YOU THAT ARE

1:21:41 THE MOST CONCERNING OR TELLING?

1:21:43 SO I'LL GIVE YOU A SET TO THINK

1:21:44 ABOUT JUST WHEN YOU THINK OF.

1:21:45 THIS WHAT IS WHAT ARE STATS.

1:21:46 THAT YOU'RE WORKING OFF

1:21:47 OF THAT SAYS THIS SOUNDS AN

1:21:48 ALARM FOR ME.

1:21:50 UM, OF THE 14 GOALS I KNOW

1:21:51 HERE.

1:21:52 IN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION THEY

1:21:53 HAVE THE 14 GOALS LISTED OUT.

1:21:55 I'D BE.

1:21:55 INTERESTED KNOWING UH AND YOU

1:21:57 DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW, BUT

1:21:58 MAYBE IF YOU GUYS COULD REACH

1:21:59 OUT.

1:21:59 UH, THE ORDER IN WHICH.

1:22:01 YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE

1:22:02 14 GOALS, RIGHT?

1:22:03 BECAUSE AS WITH EVERY ISSUE WE

1:22:05 HAVE IN THIS CITY, UH, THERE'S

1:22:07 ONLY SO MUCH TO.

1:22:08 GO AROUND AND WE CAN'T SAY ALL

1:22:10 14 CAN BE THE PRIORITY.

1:22:12 UM, AND SO I.

1:22:13 GUESS IN OTHER WORDS SAYING

1:22:14 MAYBE LIKE THE TOP FIVE LIKE.

1:22:15 WHAT IS THE TOP.

1:22:15 THIRD OF THESE THAT IF WE IF WE

1:22:17 WERE.

1:22:18 ABLE TO WHAT WOULD DO THE MOST.

1:22:20 IMPACT UH WITH THE MONEY THAT

1:22:22 WE HAVE AND THE SERVICES WE CAN

1:22:24 PROVIDE THAT YOU THINK WOULD

1:22:25 PROVIDE THE MOST IMPACT

1:22:26 OF THOSE 14 GOALS?

1:22:28 UM, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE

1:22:31 WAS WOULD THERE BE UM THERE'S

1:22:32 SO MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS

1:22:33 INVOLVED.

1:22:34 WE TALKED ABOUT COORDINATION

1:22:35 A LOT IN THIS.

1:22:35 RIGHT.

1:22:37 UM THINK ABOUT THE OTHER.

1:22:38 DEPARTMENTS YOU HAVE HOUSING

1:22:39 THE BAY OF PLANNING AND YOU SAY

1:22:41 THEY EACH SORT OF HAVE THEIR

1:22:42 OWN LITTLE UH, INDIVIDUAL FAIR

1:22:44 HOUSING PEOPLE WITHIN.

1:22:45 DO YOU FEEL WOULD BE BETTER.

1:22:47 IF FAIR HOUSING.

1:22:48 HAD MORE OF THE CONTROL.

1:22:50 IN IN THEIR WORK.

1:22:51 WITH EACH DEPARTMENT OR DO YOU

1:22:53 FEEL LIKE THEY ARE JUST THE

1:22:55 COORDINATOR OF ALL.

1:22:57 OF THE INDIVIDUAL SMALLER

1:22:58 DEPARTMENTS WITHIN?

1:22:59 I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WORKS NOW

1:23:01 UM.

1:23:01 I'M WONDERING IF YOU FEEL HEY

1:23:03 WE DON'T NEED INDIVIDUALS IN

1:23:05 EACH DEPARTMENT SO MUCH.

1:23:06 AS FAIR HOUSING INSERTING.

1:23:08 THEMSELVES IN.

1:23:09 AND AND SORT OF TAKING.

1:23:11 THE LEAD.

1:23:11 WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT INSTEAD

1:23:14 OF COORDINATING WITH THEM.

1:23:15 THAT'S A THAT'S MORE OF A

1:23:16 STRATEGIC QUESTION.

1:23:17 UH, YOU KNOW, AN ORG CHART TYPE

1:23:19 THING.

1:23:19 I WONDER IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY

1:23:21 IDEA ON WHICH ONE WOULD WORK.

1:23:22 UM, AND THEN AS LONG AS WE I

1:23:25 KNOW LATELY THE DISCUSSION HAS

1:23:26 JUST.

1:23:26 BEEN ABOUT UH, MOST RECENTLY.

1:23:28 INCLUSIONARY ZONING.

1:23:29 AND ITS EFFECT.

1:23:30 AND I THINK YOU BRING UP A

1:23:31 GREAT POINT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT

1:23:32 YOU CAN'T SAY YOU WANT FAIR

1:23:34 HOUSING AND LOWER THE

1:23:34 INCLUSIONARY ZONING THAT THAT

1:23:36 HIT WITH ME BECAUSE TYPICALLY

1:23:38 MY MIND OPERATES JUST SO YOU

1:23:39 UNDERSTAND, RIGHT.

1:23:40 LIKE I'M THINKING WELL IF WE

1:23:42 WANT MORE UNITS.

1:23:44 RIGHT YOU GOT TO DROP THE AND.

1:23:46 IS IT MORE UNITS AND SUPPLY AND

1:23:47 DEMAND TENTATIVELY GOOD FOR ALL

1:23:50 RIGHT EXACTLY NO AND THERE'S

1:23:52 THERE'S WAYS TO.

1:23:53 FIRE BACK AT THIS I UNDERSTAND.

1:23:55 ISN'T THAT GOOD FOR EVERYONE.

1:23:56 SHOULDN'T THAT BRING.

1:23:57 RENTS DOWN WHICH MAKES IT

1:23:58 MORE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY

1:23:59 NOW YOU CAN ALWAYS FIGHT BACK.

1:24:00 WELL YEAH BUT DO THE RENTS

1:24:01 ACTUALLY GO DOWN TO LANDLORDS

1:24:03 ACTUALLY BRING THE RIGHT DO

1:24:04 THEY JUST TAKE THEM OFF THE

1:24:05 MARKET AND ARE WAITING TO PUT

1:24:06 THEM BACK ON UH WHEN THINGS

1:24:08 CHANGE AROUND?

1:24:10 UM SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO

1:24:11 INTO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE

1:24:12 COULD GO BACK AND FORTH.

1:24:13 BUT I THINK THE JOB OF.

1:24:14 GOVERNMENT I'VE.

1:24:15 SAID BEFORE IS TO BE.

1:24:16 FLEXIBLE TO.

1:24:17 THE TIMES AND.

1:24:18 THAT.

1:24:18 DOES MEAN I THINK 20%.

1:24:20 OVER THE LAST IF.

1:24:22 YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM 2010

1:24:23 TO 2020, 20% WAS A LAUDABLE

1:24:25 GOAL AND A DOABLE GOAL.

1:24:27 IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY.

1:24:28 NOW THINGS ARE TOUGHER.

1:24:30 IT IS OUR JOB TO BE FLEXIBLE

1:24:32 AND RESPOND.

1:24:33 TO THE TIMES.

1:24:34 AND SO I WONDER THAT'S.

1:24:35 SORT OF WHERE I.

1:24:36 THINK THIS IS NOTHING

1:24:37 PERMANENT.

1:24:37 I WOULD I WOULD THINK OF BUT

1:24:38 LIKE.

1:24:39 HEY HOW.

1:24:39 DO.

1:24:40 WE.

1:24:40 CONTINUE TO.

1:24:41 PROVIDE UNITS TO THE GREATER

1:24:42 GOOD.

1:24:43 IN THE CURRENT TIMES.

1:24:44 PLAN FOR BETTER TIMES AHEAD AND

1:24:46 YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON A SLIDING

1:24:48 SCALE IF YOU WILL.

1:24:49 UM.

1:24:49 BUT THERE'S GOT.

1:24:50 TO BE WAYS WE GOT IT.

1:24:51 WE CAN'T JUST LET HOUSING

1:24:52 PRODUCTION DIE.

1:24:53 AND I ALSO THINK THERE'S A

1:24:54 LOT OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

1:24:55 MONEY.

1:24:56 OUT THERE WHEN PEOPLE TALK

1:24:57 ABOUT THE MARKET RATE VERSUS

1:24:58 AFFORDABLE.

1:24:59 HOW ARE THE.

1:25:00 AFFORDABLE GUYS DOING IT?

1:25:01 WELL THERE'S A LOT.

1:25:02 MORE OUT THERE THAT THEY HAVE

1:25:04 TO PICK FROM WHEN THE PRIVATE

1:25:06 INVESTMENT IS IS A LITTLE BIT

1:25:08 THINNER.

1:25:08 SO I THINK.

1:25:08 THERE'S A.

1:25:09 THEY DO HAVE A LEG.

1:25:10 UP IN THAT.

1:25:10 UM IT'S A BIT BACK TO MY

1:25:12 ORIGINAL THREE QUESTIONS I OPEN

1:25:13 IT.

1:25:13 UP THAT THAT WAS EVERYTHING

1:25:14 I HAD AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING

1:25:15 ME TAKE THE TIME.

1:25:16 I COULD I CAN SO I GUESS I

1:25:19 WOULD START BACKWARDS THE UM.

1:25:21 I'D SAY THE CITY PUT OUT A

1:25:23 NUMBER OF THE PACKAGE OF THINGS

1:25:25 OTHER THAN REDUCING

1:25:27 INCLUSIONARY ZONING.

1:25:28 UH, THAT IS KIND OF LIKE

1:25:29 ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.

1:25:30 AND SO I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS DO

1:25:32 DEVELOPERS FEEL LIKE THAT'S

1:25:33 ENOUGH OR IS THAT NOT ENOUGH?

1:25:34 AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS ENOUGH FOR

1:25:36 THEM?

1:25:36 UH, BECAUSE ON OUR END WE'RE

1:25:38 SEEING I MEAN, YOU ASK A

1:25:39 QUESTION LIKE WHAT'S A STAT

1:25:40 THAT STANDS OUT?

1:25:40 YEAH, WE SEE THE STATS AROUND

1:25:43 INCOME INEQUALITY BETWEEN BLACK

1:25:45 AND WHITE RESIDENTS.

1:25:46 WE LOOK AT THE RATE OF UM

1:25:49 FORECLOSURES WHICH HAVE GONE UP

1:25:50 IN THE CITY NOW UH, ESPECIALLY

1:25:51 NOW WITH THE NONEXISTENT CFP

1:25:53 PROTECTING OUR OUR RESIDENTS.

1:25:55 UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE

1:25:56 KIND OF STATS THEN IT PAINTS A

1:25:58 PICTURE OF A CITY WHERE BLACK

1:25:59 AND BROWN RESIDENTS ARE NOT

1:26:02 CONSIDERED IN POLICY DECISIONS

1:26:03 ARE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.

1:26:04 AND SO IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW,

1:26:07 LOWERING INCLUSIONARY ZONING IN

1:26:08 THE MIDST OF THE CITY GETTING

1:26:10 110 MILLION TO DEVELOPERS IS

1:26:12 UM, FEELING LIKE THAT PERSON

1:26:15 MAKING THAT DECISION IS UM,

1:26:17 MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE GREATER

1:26:19 GOOD THAN THE LONG TERM IMPACT

1:26:21 OF A LONG TERM HEALTH AND

1:26:23 WEALTH OF BLACK AND BROWN

1:26:24 RESIDENTS.

1:26:24 AND SO I THINK THAT THOSE TWO

1:26:26 THINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY UM,

1:26:28 DON'T NEED TO BE UM, THEY CAN

1:26:31 BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME

1:26:32 BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, THE STATS

1:26:33 SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE

1:26:35 AVERAGE FAMILY IS DOING VERY

1:26:36 WELL AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE

1:26:38 RACIAL DEMOGRAPHIC DEVELOPERS

1:26:39 BUT I'D ARGUE THAT PROBABLY

1:26:40 DOING WELL BETTER THAN THE

1:26:42 AVERAGE LOW INCOME RESIDENT WHO

1:26:43 THIS WOULD AFFECT IN THEIR

1:26:44 ABILITY TO STAY IN BOSTON.

1:26:45 SO WHEN YOU THINK OF GREATER

1:26:46 GOOD, PROBABLY HELPING THE LOW

1:26:48 INCOME RESIDENTS WOULD BE A

1:26:49 BETTER USE OF YOUR GOOD.

1:26:51 YOUR PASSING TO DO GOOD IS MY

1:26:52 THOUGHT UNDERSTOOD?

1:26:53 THANK YOU.

1:26:58 I KEEP GOING IF NO ONE ELSE

1:27:00 AND.

1:27:00 UH YEAH.

1:27:00 THAT WAS I JUST IT STATS HOW

1:27:02 YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THE 14

1:27:03 GOALS IF.

1:27:03 ANY AND AGAIN AND THEN HOW THE

1:27:05 COORDINATION WORK.

1:27:06 SO THOSE ARE MY THREE MAIN

1:27:07 QUESTIONS.

1:27:08 I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO

1:27:10 YOU ON WHAT WE SEE AS THE FIVE

1:27:12 MAIN GOALS.

1:27:14 UM BUT CLEARLY GETTING THE

1:27:17 AUDIT YOU KNOW SOME OF THE

1:27:18 THINGS WE MENTIONED THE AUDIT

1:27:20 SOME COORDINATION AND THE CITY

1:27:23 AND UM, GETTING THE MONITORING

1:27:25 COMMITTEE BACK UP AND RUNNING I

1:27:28 THINK WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE I

1:27:30 JUST WANT TO TAKE THE

1:27:32 OPPORTUNITY BEFORE OTHER

1:27:33 COUNCILORS LEAVE.

1:27:34 I AM JUST SO MOVED THAT SO MANY

1:27:37 OF YOU ARE HERE TODAY AND I'VE

1:27:41 TESTIFIED AT A LOT OF CITY

1:27:43 COUNCIL HEARINGS HERE AND THIS

1:27:45 IS JUST AN AMAZING TURNOUT AND

1:27:48 I REALLY APPRECIATE EACH AND

1:27:50 EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR COMING.

1:27:52 UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THE

1:27:55 IMPORTANCE THAT IT REALLY MAKES

1:27:57 US FEEL LIKE THE WORK WE'RE

1:27:59 DOING IS REALLY MEANINGFUL.

1:28:02 SO THANK YOU.

1:28:03 SO THIS.

1:28:03 IS NOT.

1:28:04 THANK YOU.

1:28:05 THIS IS NOT A.

1:28:07 DIRECT RESPONSE.

1:28:08 TO YOUR QUERIES BUT BUT LET

1:28:10 ME RESPOND WITH A QUERY AND I'M

1:28:13 WONDERING.

1:28:13 IF WE.

1:28:14 STARTED TO THINK.

1:28:15 MORE ABOUT COOPERATIVE.

1:28:16 HOUSING IN BOSTON.

1:28:20 UH MIGHT THAT CHANGE THE

1:28:21 EQUATION A BIT I DON'T KNOW BUT

1:28:24 BUT THE WAY WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT

1:28:26 DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.

1:28:27 FOR THE MOST PART IN THIS.

1:28:29 COUNTRY IS, YOU KNOW, VERY

1:28:30 TRADITIONAL IN SOME PLACES UH

1:28:33 UH, PEOPLE BEGINNING LOCAL

1:28:36 GOVERNMENTS ARE BEGINNING TO

1:28:37 PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO

1:28:38 COOPERATIVE HOUSING, COMMUNITY

1:28:39 LAND TRUST BUT ALSO CO-OPS.

1:28:41 AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER

1:28:42 THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO GET TO

1:28:44 THE THE POWER THAT THAT THAT

1:28:46 THAT YOU'RE RAISING UH MAYBE

1:28:50 PRODUCING HOUSING NOT AS A

1:28:52 SPECULATIVE COMMODITY BUT MORE

1:28:55 HOUSING AS A RIGHT UH MIGHT

1:28:59 MIGHT AGAIN IT MIGHT OPEN THE

1:29:01 DOOR TO DIFFERENT WAYS

1:29:02 OF THINKING ABOUT DOING HOUSING

1:29:05 AND AND RE BALANCING THE NEEDS

1:29:08 OF RESIDENTS LOW INCOME WORKING

1:29:10 CLASS RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE NEED

1:29:14 TO BUILD HOUSING OF COURSE.

1:29:17 THANK YOU CHAIR AND I

1:29:19 APPRECIATE ALL YOUR ANSWERS.

1:29:19 THANK YOU PANEL THANK YOU

1:29:21 COUNCILOR.

1:29:22 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

1:29:23 YOU THANK YOU MR.

1:29:25 CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO ALL

1:29:26 OF THE ADVOCATES FOR BEING HERE

1:29:27 AND FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE WORK IN

1:29:29 THIS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT

1:29:32 NATIONAL LANDSCAPE.

1:29:33 I GUESS I'LL PICK OFF WITH

1:29:34 WHERE YOU'RE LEAVING OFF.

1:29:35 I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS

1:29:37 HOUSING AND I STARTED MY CAREER

1:29:38 REPRESENTING FAMILIES FACING

1:29:39 EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE.

1:29:41 SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.

1:29:43 THIS IS SUCH A DIFFICULT TOPIC

1:29:45 IS THAT WE HAVE COMMODIFIED A

1:29:47 BASIC HUMAN NECESSITY, RIGHT?

1:29:49 PART OF THE SPECULATIVE MARKET

1:29:51 IS DEPENDENT ON DRIVEN

1:29:52 COMPLETELY BY PROFIT, WHICH IS

1:29:54 WHY REAL ESTATE IS ONE OF THOSE

1:29:56 AREAS.

1:29:56 IF YOUR ETHOS IS HOUSING IS A

1:29:59 HUMAN RIGHT, THEN YOU DO NEED

1:30:01 TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS

1:30:03 OTHER THAN JUST THE PROFIT

1:30:04 MARGIN.

1:30:05 IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT

1:30:06 EVERY RESIDENT HAS A PLACE TO

1:30:07 CALL HOME WHICH IS WHY

1:30:08 COMMUNITY LAND TRUST UH LIMITED

1:30:10 SHARE EQUITY COOPERATIVES OTHER

1:30:13 ALTERNATIVES ARE THINGS THAT WE

1:30:14 HAVE TO UPLIFT.

1:30:15 AND I WANT TO THINK I KNOW TO

1:30:16 YOU FOLKS UM FROM THE LAND

1:30:18 TRUST COMMUNITY FROM OBVIOUSLY

1:30:20 ALSO PART OF THE FAIR HOUSING

1:30:21 WORLD PART OF IT BECAUSE WE

1:30:23 CANNOT DEPEND ON THE MARKET

1:30:25 ALONE AS IT EXISTS TO SOLVE OUR

1:30:27 HOUSING CRISIS, WHICH IS WHY

1:30:29 I'M GLAD TO HEAR A BROAD SWATH

1:30:32 OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT

1:30:33 GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION.

1:30:34 UM, AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO

1:30:36 COUNCILOR COLETTE AS ZAPATA THE

1:30:37 LIKE SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE

1:30:39 DOING IN THE CITY IS

1:30:40 INTERTWINED TO SOLVING THESE

1:30:42 ISSUES, RIGHT?

1:30:43 SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT

1:30:44 IS IT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR A

1:30:46 DEVELOPER TO DO MORE OF THE

1:30:47 WORK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN

1:30:49 IT COMES TO IDP WHEN WE TALK TO

1:30:52 THOSE DEVELOPERS LIKE GIVE US

1:30:53 MORE DENSITY, GIVE US MORE

1:30:55 OF AN ABILITY TO BUILD MORE

1:30:58 OF THAT HOUSING IN GENERAL AND

1:30:59 WE'LL BE ABLE TO HIT THAT LIMIT

1:31:01 AND INCREASE ELEMENT AND THEN

1:31:02 YOU KNOW WE FACE DENSITY

1:31:04 BATTLES WHEN WE GO INTO

1:31:05 NEIGHBORHOOD DISCUSSIONS OR YOU

1:31:07 KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT

1:31:09 WE NEED MORE THERE ISN'T A

1:31:10 LIMITLESS POT OF MONEY FOR FOR

1:31:14 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

1:31:15 IF THERE WERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE

1:31:16 THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH

1:31:17 PEOPLE BEING IN HOUSING ALL

1:31:18 OF THAT GIVE US A TRANSFER FEE

1:31:20 WHICH WOULD ALLOW US AT LEAST

1:31:22 AT A MINIMUM $50 MILLION A

1:31:24 YEAR.

1:31:25 TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

1:31:27 AND SO I JUST THINK THAT WE

1:31:29 CANNOT THINK OF ANY OF THE

1:31:30 SOLUTIONS HERE IN A VACUUM.

1:31:32 AND IN ORDER TO SOLVE THESE

1:31:33 PROBLEMS YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO

1:31:35 BE FOR THIS AND FOR THAT AND

1:31:37 FOR THIS TO REALLY UH, GET AT

1:31:40 THE IDEA OF BLUNTING

1:31:42 GENTRIFICATION AT THE IDEA

1:31:43 OF BLUNTING DISPLACEMENT.

1:31:44 I THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT

1:31:46 WE WORKED ON IN MATTAPAN WHERE

1:31:47 THERE WAS A FOR PROFIT

1:31:48 DEVELOPER WAS WAS INSISTENT ON

1:31:51 RENAMING THIS AREA TO SOMA

1:31:53 SOUTH OF MATTAPAN LIKE WHERE

1:31:54 THEY DO THAT RIGHT?

1:31:55 BUT IT TOOK SO MUCH

1:31:57 INTENTIONALITY FROM THE CITY

1:31:59 AND FROM PRIVATE FUNDERS AND

1:32:00 FROM HOSPITALS TO REALIZE COVID

1:32:01 AS A HUMAN RIGHT.

1:32:02 SO I JUST THINK IT'S LIKE

1:32:03 IMPORTANT FOR US ALWAYS TO LIKE

1:32:04 LOOK AT ALL THE PIECES.

1:32:06 UM UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF MY

1:32:07 COLLEAGUES HAVE UPLIFTED THE

1:32:08 GREAT WORK OF BOB TERRELL WHO

1:32:10 WOULD SIT IN MY OFFICE FOR

1:32:11 HOURS TALKING ABOUT THE UH, THE

1:32:14 GOLD STANDARD OF TESTING NOT

1:32:16 ONLY IN THE RENTAL MARKET BUT

1:32:17 WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY ARE ALWAYS

1:32:19 SEEING DISCRIMINATION WHEN IT

1:32:20 COMES TO APPRAISALS WHEN IT

1:32:21 COMES TO BUYING.

1:32:22 AND I'M WONDERING WHERE ARE WE

1:32:23 SEEING CITIES DOING THAT GOLD

1:32:26 THE GOLD STANDARD OF PEER

1:32:27 TESTING WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR

1:32:28 THAT IN THE BUDGET AND THE

1:32:30 AMENDMENT PROCESS OF FAIR

1:32:31 HOUSING UH FAIR HOUSING TESTERS

1:32:33 AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THAT

1:32:34 WORK ISN'T EVEN HAPPENING RIGHT

1:32:35 NOW WITH SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.

1:32:37 SO THAT QUESTION IS TWO

1:32:39 PRONGED.

1:32:39 IT'S WHERE ARE THERE CITIES

1:32:41 THAT ARE DOING PEER TESTING IN

1:32:42 A WAY THAT IS MOVING FROM JUST

1:32:43 THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY HAVING AN

1:32:45 IMPACT ON POLICY AND TO IS A

1:32:47 TESTING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW OUT

1:32:48 OF SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.

1:32:50 IF ANYONE KNOWS SO I DON'T KNOW

1:32:54 BUT UH MAYBE UH I DON'T SEE UH

1:32:58 DUANE ANYMORE BUT HE MAY BE THE

1:33:00 BEST PERSON.

1:33:01 OH IS.

1:33:02 BUT HE'S THE BEST BUT IT'S NOT.

1:33:04 HIS NEXT PANEL, YOU.

1:33:06 KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T

1:33:07 KNOW WHAT THE STATE OF TESTING

1:33:08 IS.

1:33:09 I KNOW THAT YOU MAY HEAR MORE

1:33:10 OF THIS FROM ACE WHEN THEY

1:33:11 PROVIDE THEIR TESTIMONY.

1:33:13 IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL.

1:33:14 IT'S ONE TOOL.

1:33:16 UH AND AND BUT YOU SAID

1:33:17 SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS VERY

1:33:19 IMPORTANT IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH

1:33:20 THE RESULTS OKAY SO WE HAVE

1:33:22 THIS TOOL WHAT DO WE DO WITH

1:33:23 THE RESULTS.

1:33:24 THIS IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT

1:33:25 DISCUSSION.

1:33:26 YEAH I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK

1:33:28 FOR SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.

1:33:30 AND RIGHT NOW I DO BELIEVE LIKE

1:33:32 WE ARE NOT EVEN AT THE LIKE WE

1:33:34 HAVE THE RESULTS YOU KNOW IT

1:33:35 HAS BEEN A SLOW PROCESS

1:33:36 OF GETTING THE CITY TO REALLY

1:33:38 MOVE AND UNDERSTAND EVEN WHEN

1:33:39 BOB TERRELL WAS LEADING RIGHT

1:33:41 WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIM ABOUT

1:33:42 HOW DO WE GET TO EVEN GET THE

1:33:45 RESULTS WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING

1:33:47 FOR A LONG TIME FOR A PUBLIC

1:33:48 EDUCATION CAMPAIGN BECAUSE

1:33:50 OFTENTIMES I DO THINK THAT

1:33:51 OWNERS CORPORATE LANDLORDS THEY

1:33:54 ARE NOT MADE AFRAID IN THIS

1:33:55 CITY TO VIOLATE FAIR HOUSING

1:33:58 LAWS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

1:34:00 THAT THAT IS HAPPENING BY

1:34:01 PEOPLE CALLING US MORE AND

1:34:03 MAKING US MORE AWARE OF THE

1:34:05 INSTANCES OF DISCRIMINATION.

1:34:06 PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T KNOW THAT

1:34:07 WHAT'S THERE THAT THEY'VE BEEN

1:34:08 FACING DISCRIMINATION AND THEN

1:34:10 SECOND IS DOING THE WORK

1:34:12 OF LIKE LETTING PEOPLE OWNERS

1:34:15 UM KNOW THAT THE TESTING IS

1:34:16 HAPPENING.

1:34:17 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE

1:34:18 ANY EXAMPLES OF IT.

1:34:19 YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU TALKED

1:34:20 ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN NEW

1:34:21 YORK OUR MONEY.

1:34:22 BUT IF THERE ARE ANY EXAMPLES

1:34:23 OF.

1:34:23 THIS HAPPENING.

1:34:24 AROUND I THINK PEOPLE FROM

1:34:26 THE FAIR HOUSING OFFICE WILL BE

1:34:29 TESTIFYING AND MAYBE CAN ANSWER

1:34:31 SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.

1:34:33 YEAH.

1:34:33 AND AND THERE'S OTHER LIKE

1:34:34 THERE IS A UM A COALITION

1:34:37 OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT

1:34:38 MEET THROUGH I BELIEVE THE GAY

1:34:40 COALITION IN BOSTON AND YOU

1:34:41 KNOW HAS A SEAT ON THAT.

1:34:43 AND SO I THINK THERE'S LIKE A

1:34:45 THERE THAT ANSWER CAN BE WE CAN

1:34:47 ANSWER THAT QUESTION EVEN IF

1:34:48 NONE OF US KNOW THE DIRECT

1:34:49 ANSWER TO THAT.

1:34:50 BUT I THINK THE BIG THING IS

1:34:51 THAT UM, MAKING SURE YOU KNOW,

1:34:53 YOU I SUBMIT A QUESTION OF LIKE

1:34:54 HOW DO WE KIND OF CREATE MORE

1:34:56 REVENUE TO KIND OF LIKE FUND

1:34:57 THIS IMPORTANT WORK TO FUND THE

1:34:59 AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

1:34:59 AND I THINK THAT IS LIKE.

1:35:01 A BIGGER QUESTION FRANKLY.

1:35:02 UM AND I THINK THAT I LIKE THE

1:35:03 IDEA YOU BROUGHT UP THE

1:35:04 TRANSFER FEE AND OTHERS ARE

1:35:05 THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD

1:35:06 BE PUSHING.

1:35:06 MORE FOR.

1:35:07 UM, BUT I THINK THAT UM YEAH, I

1:35:10 THINK THE BIG THING IS IN THE

1:35:11 CITY EVEN FOLKS IN THE CITY

1:35:13 COUNCILORS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN

1:35:15 THAT COALITION THE GOVERNMENT

1:35:16 ALLIANCE FOR RACIAL EQUITY THAT

1:35:17 THEY HOLD.

1:35:18 UM AND THEY HAVE WORKSHOPS

1:35:19 WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF LIKE

1:35:20 LEARN AND FROM THE OTHER CITIES

1:35:22 .

1:35:22 SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT THAT

1:35:24 HAPPEN MORE FROM LIKE

1:35:25 COUNCILORS THAT CARE DEEPLY

1:35:26 ABOUT THIS TOPIC BECAUSE I

1:35:27 BELIEVE THE CITY IS UM IS THERE

1:35:29 AND AND THEY'RE DOING THAT

1:35:30 THROUGH LOUIS FREE AS SERVES IN

1:35:31 THAT CAPACITY BUT UM AND I

1:35:33 THINK JUST FROM WHAT I KNOW

1:35:35 ANECDOTALLY IS THAT THE CITY IS

1:35:36 DOING TESTING RIGHT NOW BUT

1:35:37 IT'S JUST THEY'RE SUPER UNDER

1:35:39 CAPACITY.

1:35:40 I THINK THE PERSON THAT MIGHT

1:35:41 HAVE BEEN LEADING IT MIGHT HAVE

1:35:42 LEFT ACTUALLY.

1:35:42 SO YEAH I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW

1:35:44 AS OF RIGHT NOW THEY ARE BUT IT

1:35:45 NEEDS TO HAPPEN OKAY.

1:35:46 AND I KNOW THE STATE IS PUTTING

1:35:48 FUNDING INTO ORGANIZATIONS AS

1:35:49 WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ABOUT THAT

1:35:50 MORE LATER.

1:35:51 SO AND.

1:35:52 THEY'RE TALKING NOT ME THEY GOT

1:35:53 NOTHING HE GOT YOU GOT MORE TO

1:35:55 SAY.

1:35:55 SO YOU MENTIONED TRANSFER FEES

1:35:56 .

1:35:57 QUICK QUESTION I WONDER HOW

1:35:59 MANY DEVELOPERS WHO ARE RAISING

1:36:00 THESE ISSUES ABOUT COST ARE OUR

1:36:04 ALLIES ON A TRASH HEAP?

1:36:07 THANK YOU.

1:36:08 THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS

1:36:09 AND THANK YOU MR CHAIR.

1:36:09 I THINK IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT

1:36:11 THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP AND ABOUT

1:36:12 DISPLACEMENT, IT REALLY DOES

1:36:13 HAVE TO BE EVERYTHING ON THE

1:36:15 TABLE.

1:36:15 I THINK OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING

1:36:16 AND EQUITY CAN DO A LOT OF IT,

1:36:18 BUT I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO ALSO

1:36:19 BE PLACED AS IT IS IN PLANNING.

1:36:21 IT DOES NEED TO BE INTEGRATED

1:36:22 INTO EVERY DEPARTMENT.

1:36:24 SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE

1:36:25 TRAININGS ACROSS EACH

1:36:26 DEPARTMENT AROUND FAIR HOUSING

1:36:27 AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED AS A

1:36:28 PART OF THIS YOU KNOW I DON'T

1:36:29 ACCEPT.

1:36:29 SO THANK YOU THANK YOU MR CHAIR

1:36:31 37.

1:36:31 THANK YOU COUNCIL.

1:36:36 THANK YOU CHAIR UM AND I

1:36:38 APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS LATE BUT I

1:36:39 WAS LISTENING AND IT'S SO GREAT

1:36:40 TO SEE.

1:36:40 ALL OF YOU AND JUST THANK

1:36:41 YOU SO.

1:36:41 MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR WORK.

1:36:42 UM, UH 2019.

1:36:45 2020 2122 MY PREDECESSOR

1:36:47 COUNCILOR.

1:36:48 EDWARDS, NOW STATE SENATOR

1:36:49 LYDIA EDWARDS I WAS PROUD TO

1:36:50 HAVE.

1:36:50 PLAYED A SMALL ROLE BUT I.

1:36:51 UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF YOU.

1:36:52 LIVE AND BREATHE THIS.

1:36:53 STUFF AND JUST HAVE.

1:36:54 DEDICATED YOUR LIVES.

1:36:56 AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL.

1:36:56 CAREER TO THIS.

1:36:57 SO SO THANK YOU.

1:36:57 AND I WANT.

1:36:58 TO.

1:36:59 THANK UM.

1:36:59 THE CO-SPONSORS.

1:37:00 AS WELL FOR INTRODUCING.

1:37:00 THIS AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE

1:37:02 ARE.

1:37:03 UM I.

1:37:03 HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

1:37:04 IT'S WELL TAKEN.

1:37:05 I THINK WE HAVE OUR.

1:37:06 MARCHING ORDERS, YOU KNOW,

1:37:07 ESPECIALLY AS BUDGET SEASON

1:37:08 COMES UH, IN THIS COUNCIL AND

1:37:10 IN THAT SEASON WE WILL FIGHT.

1:37:12 AND AT LEAST.

1:37:13 I'M.

1:37:14 NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR MY

1:37:14 COLLEAGUES.

1:37:15 AT LEAST I.

1:37:15 WANT TO KNOW THAT A FEW

1:37:16 OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL AS WELL

1:37:17 FOR.

1:37:17 THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

1:37:19 UM, AND JUST, UH, JUST REALLY

1:37:22 WANT TO SAY UH.

1:37:23 BOB'S NAME AGAIN FOR FOR

1:37:25 BECAUSE OF THE WORK.

1:37:26 AND FOR.

1:37:26 EVERYTHING THAT.

1:37:27 HE DID.

1:37:28 UM.

1:37:28 FOR THIS CITY BUT JUST

1:37:30 UNDERSTANDING HOW.

1:37:31 HISTORIC THAT.

1:37:32 ASSESSMENT WAS AND ZONING AND

1:37:34 EMBEDDING EQUITY AND PLANNING

1:37:36 FOR THE INCLUSION OF UH,

1:37:39 FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED AND

1:37:41 HISTORICALLY UM RECOGNIZED

1:37:43 PROTECTED.

1:37:44 CLASSES WAS SUPER.

1:37:45 SUPER IMPORTANT AS WE

1:37:47 CONTEMPLATED.

1:37:48 SUFFOLK DOWNS WE.

1:37:49 WERE BUILDING A WHOLE NEW.

1:37:51 CITY BASICALLY IN EAST BOSTON.

1:37:53 UM AND I WOULD ARGUE EAST

1:37:55 BOSTON IS.

1:37:56 UH THE EPICENTER.

1:37:57 OF THE.

1:37:58 GENTRIFICATION CRISIS HERE IN

1:38:00 THE CITY.

1:38:01 IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT

1:38:02 MEANS TO LEAVE AFFORDABILITY ON

1:38:05 THE BACK BURNER AT THE EXPENSE

1:38:08 OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.

1:38:10 FOLKS WHO.

1:38:11 ARE LOW INCOME, A MODERATELY,

1:38:12 UH, INCOME FROM MODERATE

1:38:14 INCOME.

1:38:14 UM, SO YOU KNOW.

1:38:16 I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE.

1:38:18 COUNCILOR BRADEN'S QUESTIONS.

1:38:19 COUNCIL WEBER.

1:38:20 ARMANI I WANT TO SHOUT YOU OUT

1:38:22 FOR YOUR, UH, POINTED UH,

1:38:25 COMMENTARY HERE.

1:38:25 JUST SAYING.

1:38:26 YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T DEVELOP

1:38:27 TO 20% THEN JUST DON'T DEVELOP

1:38:29 HERE.

1:38:29 AND I THINK I TAKE

1:38:31 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE POINTS AS

1:38:33 WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO

1:38:35 UNDERSTAND HOW ALL OF THIS IS

1:38:37 UM, UH, RELATED.

1:38:39 AND WHY.

1:38:40 WE NEED THE TRANSFER FEE AND

1:38:41 WHY WE NEED BETTER HOME RULE

1:38:42 PETITIONS, UH, GOING UP THERE

1:38:44 AND.

1:38:44 AND UM, AND GETTING PASSED AND

1:38:46 WHY WE NEED MORE POWER AS A

1:38:47 CITY RATHER.

1:38:48 SO I THINK I'M GRATEFUL.

1:38:50 FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR

1:38:52 UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE

1:38:52 OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

1:38:53 FAIR HOUSING.

1:38:54 UM, AND REALLY NOT WORRYING

1:38:56 ABOUT THE BURDEN ON DEVELOPERS

1:38:57 BUT WORRYING WHAT IT MEANS WHEN

1:39:00 WE DON'T PLAN FOR THE INCLUSION

1:39:02 OF FOLKS.

1:39:02 AND SO ALL OF THIS IS TO SAY

1:39:03 THAT I DON'T REALLY HAVE

1:39:04 QUESTIONS.

1:39:04 I HAVE AGAIN, I HAVE THE POINTS

1:39:05 THAT YOU LAID OUT VERY CLEARLY.

1:39:07 UH, WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS

1:39:09 AND JUST WANT TO EXPRESS

1:39:10 GRATITUDE.

1:39:10 TO ALL OF YOU.

1:39:11 WHO ARE.

1:39:11 ACTUALLY SORRY.

1:39:12 I HAVE ONE QUESTION.

1:39:13 UM, THE BEFORE DEC I SHOULD

1:39:15 KNOW THIS IS THE FIFTH DECK

1:39:16 CONSIDERED THE MANAGING

1:39:17 COMMITTEE?

1:39:18 IS IT INTERCHANGEABLE OR THEY

1:39:20 TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES AND HAS

1:39:21 THE FIFTH DEC BEEN BEEN MEETING

1:39:22 AND I WILL ASK THE NEXT PANEL

1:39:24 BUT.

1:39:24 YEAH NEXT PANEL CAN GIVE YOU

1:39:25 ALL THE DETAILS BUT YES THEY

1:39:26 THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE A

1:39:28 COALITION OF DIFFERENT

1:39:29 DEPARTMENTS.

1:39:29 THEY'RE LIKE A DIFFERENT

1:39:31 DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT MEET

1:39:31 TOGETHER AND I BELIEVE ONE

1:39:32 PERSON THE CITY BOSS AND

1:39:34 CATHERINE LUSK I WANT TO SAY

1:39:35 THE PERSON I'M LOOKING AT ON

1:39:36 SOMEONE ELSE SO IT EXACTLY WHO

1:39:37 BUT THERE'S SOMEONE THAT I

1:39:39 BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW I SHOULD

1:39:39 KNOW I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S

1:39:40 JUST NOT CLEAR ENOUGH OR IT'S

1:39:43 NOT REPORTED OUT IN A

1:39:44 PREDICTABLE AREA.

1:39:45 YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S EARLIER

1:39:47 IN THE PROJECT.

1:39:48 NOTIFICATION FORM THERE'S.

1:39:49 THE DECK DECISION.

1:39:50 SOMETIMES IT'S LATER IN THE UH

1:39:52 LIKE LATER ON IN THE KIND

1:39:54 OF ARTICLE 80 DEVELOPMENT MAP

1:39:56 SO THEY CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT.

1:39:57 BUT YEAH IT IS A PROBLEM THAT

1:39:59 THAT WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT

1:40:00 IT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT

1:40:02 OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO USE THE

1:40:03 DECISIONS THAT COME OUT

1:40:03 OF THERE TO PUSH BACK I THINK

1:40:05 TALK ABOUT CREATION OF NEW

1:40:06 COMMUNITIES IN DORCHESTER.

1:40:07 THE DEC, I THINK GAVE A

1:40:09 DECISION THAT THE DORCHESTER

1:40:10 BAY DEVELOPMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE

1:40:11 MOVED FORWARD PASS OR SOME

1:40:13 DEVELOPMENT DORCHESTER

1:40:14 SORRY I'M MORE ROXBURY BASED

1:40:15 BUT WE.

1:40:16 SHOULDN'T MOVE.

1:40:16 FORWARD WITH THAT SAID THAT

1:40:17 AND THE CITY STILL UH APPROVED

1:40:19 THAT PROJECT WHICH IS LIKE SO

1:40:21 WE'RE JUST IGNORING FAIR

1:40:22 HOUSING SO YEAH.

1:40:23 AND I'M SORRY I DO HAVE ANOTHER

1:40:24 QUESTION BUT I WENT BACK AND IT

1:40:26 JUST I WAS GETTING, UM,

1:40:29 FAMILIAR AGAIN WITH DOCUMENTS

1:40:30 I'D BEEN LOOKING AT FOR HOURS.

1:40:32 AND HOURS.

1:40:33 ON END BUT THE FOR SELF

1:40:34 ASSESSMENT UM, HAVE YOU ALL

1:40:36 REVIEWED ANY OF THE

1:40:37 SELF-ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN

1:40:38 PRODUCED BY THE BDA?

1:40:40 UM DO YOU GET ACCESS TO THOSE.

1:40:42 TO THE.

1:40:43 BOSTON TENANT COALITION?

1:40:44 THEY BASICALLY REVIEW EVERY

1:40:45 SINGLE ONE.

1:40:45 DANIELLE.

1:40:46 UH KATA.

1:40:46 SUMMER KATA.

1:40:48 UM GOOD.

1:40:48 PLEASE HEAR MY TESTIFY LATER

1:40:50 REVIEWS EVERY SINGLE ONE.

1:40:50 IT'S LIKE A FULL TIME JOB TO DO

1:40:52 THAT BUT UM IS THAT HAPPENING

1:40:54 AT THE CITY IN ANY ARE ANY

1:40:55 REPORTING HAPPENING ON THE CITY

1:40:56 AND THERE'S I DON'T KNOW

1:40:57 DANIELLE MIGHT KNOW MORE I ALSO

1:40:59 JASON.

1:41:00 JUST ROZIER.

1:41:01 OKAY BOSTON TENANT COALITION.

1:41:02 THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND JUST

1:41:03 ONE LAST THING I KNOW I'M SO

1:41:04 SORRY.

1:41:05 UM PROFESSOR JENNINGS MY MOTHER

1:41:06 SAYS HELLO.

1:41:07 SHE WAS SHE WAS SHE WAS A TOUGH

1:41:08 FELLOW WITH YOU SO SHE WANTED

1:41:09 ME TO SAY I.

1:41:11 WAS GOING TO.

1:41:12 GET TO YOU AFTERWARDS.

1:41:13 YEAH.

1:41:14 WE'RE RELATED.

1:41:15 EVERYONE ALWAYS ASKS.

1:41:16 THANK YOU, THANK.

1:41:17 YOU, THANK YOU.

1:41:17 I SAID TO SAY I WILL.

1:41:19 THANK YOU.

1:41:20 OKAY SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW

1:41:24 TWO MINUTES TO THE CO-SPONSORS

1:41:26 .

1:41:26 FOR THE FOLLOW UP.

1:41:27 QUESTIONS TO THE PANEL.

1:41:29 UM I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY THIS

1:41:31 HAS BEEN A GREAT HERE AND SO

1:41:32 FAR BUT I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE

1:41:33 PANEL TO TESTIFY.

1:41:36 SO WHAT COUNCIL?

1:41:37 WELL, COUNCIL CULPEPER AND

1:41:39 COUNCILMEMBER HERE I'M GOING TO

1:41:40 GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES TO GET

1:41:41 YOUR QUESTIONS IN.

1:41:42 ALL RIGHT OKAY OKAY.

1:41:45 I'M TRYING TO HEAR ALL RIGHT.

1:41:46 SO, UM, AMANI YOU TALKED ABOUT

1:41:48 THE TECH NEEDED MORE

1:41:50 TRANSPARENCY UM, AND MORE

1:41:51 PREDICTABILITY.

1:41:52 WHAT WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT

1:41:54 REPORT SHOULD BE ISSUED AND

1:41:56 THEN WHO SHOULD IT BE

1:41:58 DISTRIBUTED TO?

1:41:59 YEAH.

1:41:59 IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

1:42:00 I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE

1:42:02 DONE.

1:42:02 PROBABLY MORE.

1:42:03 MAYBE MULTIPLE TIMES.

1:42:05 UH, THE BEGINNING THERE SHOULD

1:42:06 BE THE THE BOSTON INTER-AGENCY

1:42:07 SHOULD BE REVIEWING THE INITIAL

1:42:10 AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE

1:42:11 FEEDBACK GIVEN BY THAT I

1:42:12 BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AS

1:42:13 A FEEDBACK GIVEN BY THAT

1:42:14 AGENCY.

1:42:14 AND THEN THAT FEEDBACK SHOULD

1:42:16 THEN BE USED TO MAKE SUBSEQUENT

1:42:18 CHANGES IN THAT COMMITTEE

1:42:19 SHOULD THEN REVIEW THOSE TO

1:42:20 THEN GIVE A FINAL OPINION OF UH

1:42:22 WE'LL SEE AGAIN IT'S A IT'S A

1:42:24 PROCESS THAT I DON'T KNOW

1:42:25 ENOUGH ABOUT AND ISN'T CLEARLY

1:42:27 EXPLAINED.

1:42:27 AND I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF THE

1:42:29 ARTICLE 80 DOCUMENTATION THAT

1:42:30 I'VE READ AND UM, AND HAVE EVEN

1:42:32 HELPED THE CITY IN IN HELPING

1:42:34 OTHER PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT

1:42:34 THROUGH THE PLANNING ACADEMY.

1:42:35 IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW,

1:42:36 I'VE PUSHED AS A YOU KNOW, A

1:42:38 SUPPORTER OF MAKING SURE

1:42:39 RESIDENTS KNOW MORE ABOUT

1:42:40 ARTICLE 80 BUT IT ISN'T UH,

1:42:42 RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT CLEAR AND

1:42:43 THEY WILL ADMIT IT'S NOT A PART

1:42:45 OF THE LIKE IT'S NOT A

1:42:46 FORMALIZED STEP BUT IT IS A

1:42:48 STEP IN THE FORMAL PROCESS.

1:42:49 RIGHT.

1:42:50 UM AND THEN UH, WHEN IT.

1:42:52 COMES.

1:42:53 TO FINDING MORE REVENUE TO HELP

1:42:54 THE CREATION OF HOUSING, YOU

1:42:55 KNOW, THE CITY HAS DONE WHETHER

1:42:57 IT'S LIKE $110 MILLION

1:42:58 ACCELERATOR FUND, UH, WHICH YOU

1:43:00 KNOW, WE ADVOCATED FOR FAIR

1:43:01 HOUSING, UH, LENS TO BE YOU

1:43:03 KNOW, ATTRIBUTED TO IT.

1:43:04 UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER

1:43:06 INCENTIVES FOR HOUSING

1:43:07 CREATION, UH, WHETHER IT'S LIKE

1:43:09 THE TAX ABATEMENTS, THE DENSITY

1:43:11 ,UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE

1:43:12 HAVING.

1:43:13 WHAT DOES THE CCAC OR THE

1:43:17 MONITORING COMMITTEE PROVIDE

1:43:19 ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY

1:43:22 ON HOW FAIR HOUSING LANDS

1:43:23 SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PUT ON

1:43:25 SOME OF THESE POLICIES?

1:43:29 YEAH.

1:43:30 I MEAN JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE

1:43:32 UH LIKE THE POLICIES LIKE IS

1:43:34 THERE A PARTICULAR POLICY YOU

1:43:35 MEAN OR JUST IN GENERAL.

1:43:35 IN GENERAL WHEN WE'RE THINKING

1:43:36 ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUMPSTARTING

1:43:38 HOUSING CREATION, YOU KNOW, WE.

1:43:39 TALKED ABOUT THE STRUCTURAL

1:43:40 BARRIERS.

1:43:41 OUR BIG THING IS MAKING SURE

1:43:42 THAT THERE'S DEEPLY AFFORDABLE

1:43:43 HOUSING AND LIKE YOU KNOW, THE

1:43:44 17 PLUS 3% THAT'S ONE THING WE

1:43:46 HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH IS

1:43:47 LIKE THE AFFORDABLE THE NEW

1:43:49 INCLUSIONARY ZONING REQUIREMENT

1:43:50 REQUIRES 17% TO BE AFFORDABLE

1:43:52 AND THEN 3% OF THOSE UNITS TO

1:43:54 BE FOR VOUCHER.

1:43:54 HOLDERS WHICH ALLOWS THOSE THAT

1:43:55 ARE MAKING ESSENTIALLY 0 TO

1:43:57 30%.

1:43:58 AM I TO NOT UH TO BE ABLE TO

1:44:00 QUALIFY FOR UNITS?

1:44:00 AND SO I THINK WHEN WE THINK

1:44:01 ABOUT WHO IS BEING IMPACTED ARE

1:44:03 THE LIKE MOST LOW INCOME MOST

1:44:05 UM UM AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT

1:44:07 PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED I THINK

1:44:08 THAT'S THE WAY TO KIND

1:44:09 OF FRAMEWORK IT.

1:44:10 UH SO AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT

1:44:12 UH CAMBRIDGE THE AFFORDABLE

1:44:13 HOUSING WHICH NEVER HAPPENED IN

1:44:14 CAMBRIDGE.

1:44:15 UM, FROM MY RESEARCH I

1:44:17 UNDERSTAND THAT THEY GIVE A

1:44:18 LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, TO THE

1:44:20 CREATION OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING

1:44:22 THROUGH THE CPA FUND.

1:44:23 UM, IS CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE

1:44:26 EACH MEMBER ON THIS PANEL

1:44:27 STANDS WITH UM PUMPING BOSTON

1:44:30 CPA FUNDS THE PORTION RIGHT THE

1:44:34 POOL TO A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.

1:44:36 AND WE JUST WANT TO START ON

1:44:38 THE.

1:44:38 I DON'T.

1:44:39 KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE

1:44:40 REALLY LOOKED.

1:44:41 TO THIS I DID.

1:44:42 MENTION THAT IN.

1:44:43 THE.

1:44:43 UH IN THE GOALS THAT'S YOU KNOW

1:44:45 SOMEWHERE IN THE GOALS AND

1:44:47 BASICALLY AS I RECALL THE

1:44:48 LANGUAGE GENERAL LANGUAGE TO

1:44:50 MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE

1:44:52 USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND

1:44:54 NOT EXCLUSIVELY OPEN SPACE.

1:44:57 SO UH BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE

1:44:59 DETAILS BUT WE DID LOOK AT THAT

1:45:01 ISSUE.

1:45:01 I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING

1:45:03 ABOUT FUNDING.

1:45:04 I MEAN WE REALLY DON'T LOOK AT

1:45:06 THE FUNDING THING, BUT I THINK

1:45:08 THE TRANSFER FEE UH, ISSUE IS

1:45:11 ONE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFER

1:45:13 FEE WE NEVER TALK ABOUT FAIR

1:45:15 HOUSING.

1:45:16 AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS

1:45:19 TO HAVE A TRANSFER FEE WOULD BE

1:45:22 TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT MONEY

1:45:24 FOR FAIR HOUSING GOALS.

1:45:25 I THINK ONE OF THE CONDITIONS

1:45:27 IS OFTEN SAY THAT WE.

1:45:28 EXPERIENCE LIKE.

1:45:29 WE'VE BEEN A PART OF A BIG PUSH

1:45:31 TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECTS IN

1:45:32 NUBIAN SQUARE, FOR EXAMPLE,

1:45:34 HAVE UH THE FUNDING THEY NEED

1:45:36 TO GET STARTED.

1:45:37 UM, THEY YOU KNOW, COMMITMENTS

1:45:38 ARE MADE, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO

1:45:40 TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS

1:45:41 DESIGNATED AND TO BE DEEPLY

1:45:43 AFFORDABLE.

1:45:43 AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

1:45:44 THAT EXISTING PROJECTS IN THE

1:45:46 PIPELINE THAT DO HAVE THE

1:45:48 EFFECT OF, YOU KNOW, A FIRMLY

1:45:50 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING THAT

1:45:50 THOSE GET ACROSS THE FINISH

1:45:52 LINE.

1:45:52 SO MAKING SURE THOSE PROJECTS

1:45:53 GET FUNDED WHETHER IT'S THE

1:45:54 COMMONWEALTH BUILDER AND WE

1:45:55 HAVE A PETITION THAT'S ACTIVE

1:45:56 ON OUR WEBSITE AND WHEN I WANT

1:45:58 TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILORS

1:45:59 HERE ARE WORKING WITH US TO,

1:46:00 YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE

1:46:01 THAT THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE

1:46:03 BUDGET IS SET UP IN A WAY THAT

1:46:05 THE CITY OF BOSTON GETS THE

1:46:05 FUNDING THAT IT NEEDS AND I

1:46:07 KNOW SHOUT OUTS TO YOU KNOW,

1:46:08 WERE COUNCIL YOU FOR GETTING AN

1:46:09 EXTRA 10 MILLION TO THAT

1:46:11 HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR FUND UH

1:46:12 SOME YEARS AGO UH IT'S LIKE WAS

1:46:14 IT TWO YEARS AGO YOU GOT IT.

1:46:15 ACTUALLY.

1:46:15 YEAH YEAH.

1:46:16 YEAH TIME'S A.

1:46:17 BLUR BUT ALSO THE THE IDEA THAT

1:46:18 PEOPLE HAVE AROUND LIKE A BAD

1:46:19 ACTORS LIST I BELIEVE THERE'S A

1:46:21 NEW IDEA.

1:46:22 THAT'S ANOTHER WAY I THINK

1:46:23 OF HOLDING FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE.

1:46:24 UM AND SHOUT OUTS TO THOSE WHO

1:46:25 ARE BEHIND IT.

1:46:26 THANK YOU.

1:46:27 THANK YOU,

1:46:28 COUNCILOR CULPEPPER.

1:46:29 TWO MINUTES REAL QUICK I WANT

1:46:32 TO RECOGNIZE BRANDY BROOK.

1:46:33 SOME HIGHER GROUND ALL THE WAY

1:46:35 TO BRANDY HAS BEEN DOING ON

1:46:37 ACTUALLY PLACING FOLKS AND

1:46:39 HOUSING MONEY.

1:46:40 I WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTION

1:46:41 ABOUT THE CITY POINTS TO A

1:46:43 PLACE TO THRIVE THE CITY'S

1:46:45 AFTER DISPLACEMENT ACTION AS

1:46:47 ONE OF THE PROGRESS UNDER THE A

1:46:49 OF AIDS.

1:46:49 AND I'D LIKE TO ASK HER ACCESS

1:46:52 TO COUNCIL TO SURE PILOT AND

1:46:53 THE CONDOM AND AND COOPERATIVE

1:46:55 CONVERSION ORDINANCE OF THESE

1:46:58 POLICIES ARE THEY ACTUALLY

1:47:00 PRODUCING MEANINGFUL CHANGES

1:47:02 FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE GROUND

1:47:04 OR IF NOT WHAT NEEDS TO BE

1:47:07 CHANGED?

1:47:08 YEAH, I WOULD SAY YOU'D HAVE TO

1:47:09 LOOK KIND OF EACH POLICY BY

1:47:10 POLICY TO SEE HOW IT'S BEING

1:47:12 IMPLEMENTED.

1:47:12 SO I THINK WHAT I KIND

1:47:14 OF DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID

1:47:15 WHEN YOU READ BACK BUT I

1:47:16 THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU HEARD YOU

1:47:17 MENTIONED IS THE ROLE THAT

1:47:18 DURING CONDO CONVERSIONS

1:47:19 THERE'S A LEVEL OF KIND

1:47:21 OF ACCOUNTABILITY THE DEVELOPER

1:47:21 HAS TO THE TENANTS TO GIVE THEM

1:47:23 UH, FAIR NOTICE AND I BELIEVE

1:47:25 THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUPPORT

1:47:26 THEM WITH THE UH FUND OF MONEY

1:47:28 TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LOCATION.

1:47:29 SO THAT'S A REAL TANGIBLE THING

1:47:31 THAT IS HAPPENING AND I BELIEVE

1:47:33 UH, COUNCIL IS A PART HIS

1:47:34 PREDECESSOR IS WORKING RIGHT

1:47:35 NOW TO ADVANCE SOMETHING OF THE

1:47:37 STATE HOUSE THAT WOULD MAKE IT

1:47:38 SO THAT NOT JUST CONDOMINIUMS

1:47:39 BUT THREE FAMILY HOMES AND TWO

1:47:41 FAMILY HOMES ALSO FALL INTO

1:47:42 THAT.

1:47:42 SO I THINK THAT AMENDMENT IS A

1:47:44 PART OF A NEXT STEP IN TRYING

1:47:46 TO MAKE THESE POLICIES BETTER.

1:47:48 SO MAKING SURE THE CITY

1:47:50 COUNCIL HELPS, YOU KNOW, MOVE

1:47:51 THAT ALONG WOULD BE A WAY TO

1:47:53 ENSURE THAT.

1:47:53 BUT EACH THAT'S THE KIND

1:47:54 OF THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AND

1:47:56 UH WE WORK WITH MORE I KNOW

1:47:57 THERE'S LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S

1:47:58 THERE'S THINK TANKS AND POLICY

1:47:59 INSTITUTES OUT THERE NEW ONES

1:48:01 COMING OUT THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE

1:48:02 ARE WANTING TO WORK WITH MORE

1:48:04 AND THE CITY SHOULD BE LOOKING

1:48:04 TO WORK WITH MORE TO MAKE SURE

1:48:05 THAT WE HAVE THAT KIND OF DATA

1:48:07 ON HOW IT AFFECTS BLACK AND

1:48:08 BROWN RESIDENTS.

1:48:09 LET ME ANSWER AND THIS IS FOR

1:48:11 THE ENTIRE PANEL.

1:48:12 IF YOU WONDER WHAT IS THE MOST

1:48:13 MEANINGFUL POLICY OR

1:48:15 ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES THAT BE

1:48:17 MADE TO THE VA AND THE MAYOR'S

1:48:18 OFFICE OF HOUSING COULD

1:48:19 IMPLEMENT RIGHT NOW THE

1:48:21 EXISTING AUTHORITY WITHOUT

1:48:23 WAITING FOR LEGISLATION?

1:48:27 THE MOST MEANINGFUL POLICY OR

1:48:30 ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.

1:48:33 FOR THE VA.

1:48:34 OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF OR

1:48:36 .

1:48:37 FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.

1:48:40 I WOULD JUST SAY COORDINATION.

1:48:42 UM UH I THINK THE SILOING IS

1:48:45 REALLY HOLDING US BACK.

1:48:46 SO I WOULD SAY COORDINATION IS

1:48:51 A BIG CHANGE.

1:48:53 LINSON UM.

1:48:57 I MEAN I AGREE WITH.

1:48:58 UH WITH WITH NEEDING AROUND.

1:49:01 COORDINATOR NATION.

1:49:02 BUT UH UM.

1:49:04 IT'S SOMETHING.

1:49:05 THAT.

1:49:05 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO

1:49:07 BEYOND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

1:49:08 OF HOUSING.

1:49:09 I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE ALL

1:49:11 THESE DIFFERENT CITY OF CITY

1:49:12 DEPARTMENTS I.

1:49:13 YET ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE

1:49:14 RAN INTO EVEN DOING THE FHA WAS

1:49:18 UM, HAVING A SINGULAR CITY

1:49:20 DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THAT

1:49:23 POLICY.

1:49:24 THAT FORCE OUR PUSH.

1:49:26 OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DO X

1:49:28 AND AND THAT BECAME IN LIMITED

1:49:30 UH FACTOR AS WE'RE TRYING TO

1:49:31 MOVE THE.

1:49:32 FHA FORWARD.

1:49:33 AND IT BECAME CLEAR TO US THAT.

1:49:35 IN ORDER FOR.

1:49:36 THAT TO HAPPEN YOU NEED A A

1:49:37 MANDATE COMING FROM SOME

1:49:38 AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY PUSH CITY

1:49:40 TO OUR DEMAND.

1:49:41 CITY DEPARTMENTS WHATEVER IT IS

1:49:43 THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AND

1:49:44 DO UM, PART OF THE COORDINATION

1:49:45 THAT NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT

1:49:46 IT.

1:49:47 WELL IN MY VIEW YOU NEED A

1:49:49 COORDINATED EFFORT, A MANDATE

1:49:50 AROUND UM FIRST OF ALL WHAT IS

1:49:52 THE HOUSING?

1:49:53 HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE WORK

1:49:54 THAT YOU DO?

1:49:55 UM HOW DOES THAT WORK MANIFEST

1:49:58 ITSELF AND UM AND HAVE A KIND

1:50:00 OF A UNIVERSAL UH, DEFINITION

1:50:02 AROUND WHAT EQUITY FAILS AND IS

1:50:04 BUT THAT HAS TO COME FROM

1:50:05 SOMEONE WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY

1:50:06 THEN TO ACTUALLY UH, MAKE SURE

1:50:08 ARE IN FORCE THAT THESE THINGS

1:50:10 ARE HAPPENING.

1:50:10 SO I THINK THAT THE

1:50:12 COORDINATION IS IS.

1:50:13 KEY BUT I.

1:50:14 THINK IT GOES BEYOND I MEAN IT

1:50:15 WAS OFFICE OF HOUSING PROGRAM.

1:50:17 YEAH.

1:50:19 WELL PEOPLE THAT'S A THAT'S

1:50:21 A PROGRAM THAT ADMINISTERS THE

1:50:22 FAMILY SELF-SUFFICIENCY FUND

1:50:24 WHERE YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.

1:50:25 A LOT OF PEOPLE CLAIM THAT

1:50:26 AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW,

1:50:27 KEEPS YOU POOR BECAUSE THERE'S

1:50:28 NO WAY TO SAVE MONEY.

1:50:29 THEY HAVE A PROGRAM FSS PROGRAM

1:50:31 YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.

1:50:33 UH I THINK I BELIEVE THE CITY

1:50:34 OF BOSTON IS GOING TO GRADUATE

1:50:35 ITS FIRST COHORT OF LIKE YOU

1:50:37 KNOW, THEY HELPED 70 PEOPLE BUY

1:50:38 HOMES.

1:50:39 THAT IS REAL LIFE TANGIBLE

1:50:41 THINGS THAT VHA WAS ABLE TO DO

1:50:43 WITHOUT PASSING A POLICY.

1:50:44 AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WORKING

1:50:45 TO MAKE SURE EVERY TENANT IN

1:50:48 YOUR DISTRICT KNOWS ABOUT THAT

1:50:50 PROGRAM AND THAT THEY UH OR

1:50:51 THAT THERE'S SOMEONE IN A

1:50:53 COORDINATION POSITION AT THE

1:50:54 BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY DOING

1:50:55 THAT ROLE, UM, AT THAT

1:50:57 DEVELOPMENT FACILITY UM, WOULD

1:50:58 BE A REALLY LIKE SIMPLE OR NOT

1:51:00 SIMPLE BUT A REAL TANGIBLE WAY

1:51:01 TO INCREASE PEOPLE'S WEALTH AND

1:51:03 UM, CLOSE SOME OF THESE WEALTH

1:51:04 GAPS FOR RESIDENTS.

1:51:05 YOU GOING TO WORK WITH ME TO

1:51:07 MAKE SURE EVERYONE OF MY

1:51:07 DISTRICT KNOWS ABOUT THAT?

1:51:08 THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

1:51:09 LET'S DO IT.

1:51:10 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

1:51:11 AND SOMETHING ARMANI.

1:51:12 MENTIONED I.

1:51:13 DO I DO THINK I REMEMBER

1:51:14 THAT COUNCILOR BREADON IN

1:51:16 COUNCIL CALLED US ABOUT A.

1:51:17 FEW WEEKS AGO.

1:51:18 DID INTRODUCE SOMETHING.

1:51:19 TO OPT IN FOR MUNICIPALITIES

1:51:21 FOR THE AFFORDABLE.

1:51:22 HOMES.

1:51:22 ACT THAT INCLUDE.

1:51:23 2 TO 3 UNITS.

1:51:24 FOR HOMES FOR CONDO

1:51:25 CONVERSIONS.

1:51:25 YES.

1:51:26 SO THAT WAS A THAT WAS A

1:51:28 GOOD MOVE.

1:51:28 SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM.

1:51:29 UM OKAY.

1:51:31 COUNCILMAN TWO MINUTES.

1:51:34 SO YOU KNOW I'M.

1:51:35 MAKING THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE

1:51:36 SUCH A GOOD TURNOUT IS BECAUSE

1:51:38 I BELIEVE.

1:51:39 MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THAT

1:51:40 HOUSING IS.

1:51:41 UH, SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF.

1:51:42 HEALTH BACK THERE.

1:51:43 RIGHT.

1:51:43 AND SO LIKE WE UNDERSTAND THE

1:51:45 BIG PICTURE HERE IF YOU'RE

1:51:46 HOUSING INSECURE YOU'RE.

1:51:48 THE WHOLE WORLD IS JUST GOING

1:51:49 TO COME CRUMBLING DOWN.

1:51:50 SO WE UNDERSTAND WE GOT THE

1:51:52 ASSIGNMENT.

1:51:52 UM.

1:51:54 SO I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.

1:51:55 ONE IS IN REGARDS.

1:51:57 TO UM.

1:51:59 POTENTIALLY HOW BHP CAN ALSO BE

1:52:01 DRIVING THE IN UH THE HOUSING

1:52:05 UNAFFORDABILITY FACTORS BECAUSE

1:52:06 I KNOW THAT THE HRA VOUCHERS

1:52:08 ARE $3,000 FOR A TWO BEDROOM

1:52:10 THAT ALSO IMPACTS THE UH THE

1:52:13 DYNAMICS.

1:52:14 SO I'M JUST CURIOUS KIND

1:52:15 OF WHAT THINKING IF ANY YOU

1:52:17 WANT TO SHARE REGARDING THAT

1:52:19 CONVERSATION THAT I THINK THE

1:52:20 CITY NEEDS TO HAVE MY

1:52:22 COUNCIL COLLEAGUE

1:52:22 COUNCILOR WEBER MENTIONED.

1:52:24 CITY VOUCHERS AS SOMETHING AS

1:52:26 ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO

1:52:28 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE

1:52:29 CONTROL OVER.

1:52:29 SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR

1:52:31 INSIGHT ON HOW WE CAN.

1:52:31 POUR MORE.

1:52:33 INTO THAT UM, BUDGET LINE ITEM.

1:52:35 AND UH, LASTLY, I THINK IT'S

1:52:38 IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALSO KNOW

1:52:40 ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY

1:52:43 LIKE WE CAN KEEP HAVING THESE

1:52:44 CONVERSATIONS BUT UNLESS WE

1:52:45 REALLY REALIZE THIS WHOLE IDEA

1:52:47 OF LIKE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD

1:52:48 OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND WHAT

1:52:49 THE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO

1:52:51 LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF FEES AND

1:52:53 IN TERMS OF ALSO HOLDING THE

1:52:55 CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO ITS OWN

1:52:56 ENFORCEMENT AT WHAT POINT IT

1:52:57 WE'RE GOING TO START BEING A

1:52:59 LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE.

1:53:00 AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT

1:53:02 YOU COULD CHANGE IN THE CURRENT

1:53:03 UH, AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, ANY

1:53:05 AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO

1:53:06 MAKE TO THE CURRENT STRUCTURE

1:53:07 THAT WE HAVE?

1:53:08 I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE

1:53:09 AMENDMENTS COULD LOOK LIKE.

1:53:10 I KNOW THAT'S A LOT, BUT I WANT

1:53:13 YOU ALL TO.

1:53:14 ANSWER OKAY.

1:53:15 LOOKING TO SEE.

1:53:16 SO SO IN TERMS OF VOUCHERS WE

1:53:18 SHOULD ALSO BE THINKING ABOUT

1:53:20 PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS.

1:53:22 A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE

1:53:23 COUNTRY UH HAS TAKEN PLACE NOT

1:53:25 JUST WITH INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD

1:53:26 VOUCHERS BUT PROJECT BASED UH

1:53:28 VOUCHERS THAT HAVE UH ACTUALLY

1:53:30 .

1:53:31 CITY COUNCILOR.

1:53:31 CULPEPPER CAN SAY MORE OF THIS

1:53:33 BECAUSE HE WAS AT HUD AT A

1:53:34 POINT WHERE PROJECT BASED

1:53:36 VOUCHERS WERE BEING PUSHED ALL

1:53:38 OVER THE PLACE.

1:53:40 WE REHABILITATED IN BOSTON 2100

1:53:42 UNITS BASED ON PROJECT BASED

1:53:44 VOUCHERS.

1:53:44 BUT PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS

1:53:46 ALLOW ONE TO DO ALLOW

1:53:47 GOVERNMENT TO DO IS SAY WE WANT

1:53:49 TO DEVELOP IN THIS AREA AND WE

1:53:51 WANT THIS AREA TO LOOK THIS WAY

1:53:53 AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW.

1:53:54 FULL OF BUSTING HERE.

1:53:55 JAMES I ASKED A LOT

1:53:57 OF QUESTIONS.

1:53:57 OKAY?

1:53:57 I WANT.

1:53:58 TO.

1:53:58 MAKE SURE I.

1:53:58 HEAR FROM EVERYBODY OKAY.

1:53:59 YEAH DON'T BE.

1:53:59 SHY OKAY.

1:54:00 SO SO UM SO WRAP IT UP.

1:54:03 OKAY.

1:54:04 THIS IS THE WRAP UP.

1:54:06 THE.

1:54:07 UH I THINK THE CITY STILL

1:54:08 HAS A BANKING ORDINANCE ON THE

1:54:10 BOOKS.

1:54:10 OKAY.

1:54:11 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEING

1:54:12 ENFORCED OR NOT, BUT A FEW

1:54:13 YEARS AGO THE CITY

1:54:15 COUNCIL PASSED A BANKING

1:54:16 ORDINANCE TO HOLD BANKS

1:54:17 ACCOUNTABLE.

1:54:18 BANKS HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH YOU

1:54:20 KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

1:54:21 ALL RIGHT.

1:54:22 SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.

1:54:24 COUNCILMEMBER HERE.

1:54:25 YEP.

1:54:25 THIS IS YOUR LAST QUESTION.

1:54:26 NO NO I NEED THEM TO APOLOGIZE

1:54:28 FOR MY QUESTION.

1:54:29 BUT I KNOW THERE WERE SOME

1:54:30 QUESTIONS THAT DID NOT GET

1:54:31 ANSWERED.

1:54:32 UH.

1:54:33 I'LL JUST SAY ON THE UH

1:54:36 VOUCHER ISSUE.

1:54:37 UH.

1:54:38 .

1:54:38 I THINK THE CITY HAS TO DO MORE

1:54:41 TO ENSURE.

1:54:43 NONDISCRIMINATION IN THE USE

1:54:44 OF THE VOUCHERS AND NOT LEAVE.

1:54:47 IT UP.

1:54:47 TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

1:54:50 UM.

1:54:51 UH, TENANT WHO'S LOOKING FOR

1:54:53 HOUSING AND WHAT WE ALWAYS USED

1:54:55 TO SAY UNFAIR HOUSING TENANTS

1:54:57 NEED LIKE HOUSING.

1:55:00 THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO STOP

1:55:01 AND FILE A COMPLAINT AND GO

1:55:03 THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.

1:55:05 THEY NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR

1:55:07 THEIR FAMILY TO LIVE.

1:55:09 SO I THINK THE CITY HAS TO BE

1:55:11 MORE SYSTEMIC AND UM, MORE

1:55:14 AGGRESSIVE IF UH, THERE SHOULD

1:55:17 BE A LIST OF HOUSING PROVIDERS

1:55:19 WHO DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT

1:55:21 AND THERE SHOULD BE.

1:55:22 PENALTIES FOR THOSE UH,

1:55:25 ENTITIES AND I UM I REALLY

1:55:28 THINK THERE HAS TO BE MORE

1:55:30 AGGRESSION AND UH, MORE

1:55:32 ENFORCEMENT.

1:55:33 AND ANY AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D

1:55:34 LIKE TO SEE TO THE CURRENT.

1:55:36 AS WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE

1:55:38 CAN TO GET UNIVERSITIES TO PAY

1:55:39 MORE INTO THE HOUSING KIND

1:55:41 OF LIKE UH SOLUTION.

1:55:43 UM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN

1:55:45 ADDITION TO PUT UP UH $10

1:55:47 MILLION AND THERE'S NOW TENS

1:55:49 OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF DOWN

1:55:50 PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE TO

1:55:51 ROXBURY MISSION HEALTH AND

1:55:53 FENWAY RESIDENTS THAT THAT'S

1:55:55 BECAUSE OF ADVOCACY THE YOU

1:55:57 KNOW, IT DIDN'T TAKE A LIKE

1:55:59 BILL TO BE PASSED ON EACH PILOT

1:56:00 AND EACH INSTITUTIONAL MASTER

1:56:02 PLAN THAT EXISTS.

1:56:03 THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE

1:56:04 THOSE UNIVERSITIES ARE DOING

1:56:06 THEIR PART AND FAIR AND

1:56:07 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

1:56:08 HOUSING.

1:56:10 THANK YOU I APPRECIATE.

1:56:12 THANK YOU.

1:56:13 AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO MY

1:56:15 COLLEAGUES FOR OUR.

1:56:16 FOR THE COOPERATION.

1:56:17 THIS IS A VERY NICELY.

1:56:18 ATTENDED HEARING AND I KNOW

1:56:19 THAT WE HAVE GREAT QUESTIONS

1:56:21 FOR ALL OF YOU.

1:56:22 BUT AT THIS TIME.

1:56:23 I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

1:56:25 FOR THANK.

1:56:25 YOU FOR BEING HERE AS

1:56:26 PANELISTS WE ARE GOING TO

1:56:27 TRANSITION TO OUR SECOND PANEL

1:56:29 AND AS WE DO THAT I DO WANT TO

1:56:31 INVITE TWO PEOPLE TO PROVIDE

1:56:33 PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:56:34 UM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE.

1:56:36 TWO MINUTES.

1:56:37 ON THE MICS.

1:56:38 UM I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE IS

1:56:40 JILLIAN LANSON AND THEN SECOND

1:56:42 WILL BE TRISTAN THOMAS JILLIAN.

1:56:46 ABSOLUTELY.

1:56:47 AND SEND ANGEL.

1:56:51 PERFECT IS TRISTAN THOMAS.

1:56:53 YES.

1:56:53 FOR IF YOU MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN

1:56:55 YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PROVIDE

1:56:56 YOUR TESTIMONY AND THEN IF THE

1:56:58 PEOPLE FROM THE CITY CAN PLEASE

1:56:59 TAKE A SEAT.

1:57:02 AND THEN WE WILL DO THE REST

1:57:04 OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY AFTER WE

1:57:05 HEAR FROM THE CITY.

1:57:08 SOUNDS GOOD.

1:57:09 GOOD AFTERNOON.

1:57:10 COUNCILORS APPRECIATE YOUR TIME

1:57:11 AND ATTENTION.

1:57:13 MY NAME IS TRISTAN THOMAS.

1:57:14 I WORK AS DIRECTOR OF POLICY

1:57:16 AND LAW FOR ACE ALTERNATIVES

1:57:18 FOR COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENT,

1:57:19 A 30 YEAR OLD ENVIRONMENTAL

1:57:21 JUSTICE NONPROFIT BASED IN

1:57:23 ROXBURY.

1:57:24 THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968

1:57:26 WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ONE WEEK

1:57:28 AFTER DOCTOR KING WAS

1:57:29 ASSASSINATED.

1:57:30 ITS LEGACY IS ROOTED IN THE

1:57:32 CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WHERE YOU

1:57:34 LIVE CAN DETERMINE YOUR ACCESS

1:57:36 TO SCHOOLS, JOBS, HEALTH CARE,

1:57:38 SAFETY AND DIGNITY AND DESPITE

1:57:39 SOME PROGRESS, THE HISTORY AND

1:57:42 LEGACY OF REDLINING, RACIAL

1:57:44 COVENANTS, BLOCKBUSTING AND

1:57:46 DISCRIMINATORY LENDING ARE

1:57:47 STILL WITH US TODAY.

1:57:48 ONLY 30% OF BOSTON'S BLACK

1:57:50 FAMILIES OWN HOMES, COMPARED TO

1:57:53 73% OF WHITE FAMILIES.

1:57:54 MORTGAGE DENIAL RATES FOR BLACK

1:57:56 BOSTONIANS ARE MORE THAN TWICE

1:57:58 AS HIGH AS COMPARED TO WHITE

1:58:00 RESIDENTS.

1:58:00 BLACK HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY

1:58:02 EARN A MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME

1:58:04 OF JUST $58,600.

1:58:07 THAT'S HOUSEHOLD INCOME

1:58:08 COMPARED TO 128,900 FOR WHITE

1:58:11 FAMILIES.

1:58:12 MORE THAN A QUARTER OF BOSTON'S

1:58:14 RENTER HOUSEHOLDS SPEND OVER

1:58:15 HALF THEIR INCOME ON RENT, AND

1:58:17 WHILE BLACK RESIDENTS MAKE UP

1:58:19 JUST 8% OF GREATER BOSTON'S

1:58:21 POPULATION, WE ACCOUNT FOR 52%

1:58:23 OF THE POPULATION EXPERIENCING

1:58:24 HOMELESSNESS.

1:58:26 BOSTON'S AFFIRMATIVELY

1:58:27 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING

1:58:28 PROVISION REQUIRES MORE THAN

1:58:30 SIMPLY PREVENTING

1:58:31 DISCRIMINATION.

1:58:32 IT MEANS TAKING MEANINGFUL

1:58:33 ACTION THAT TAKEN TOGETHER,

1:58:35 ADDRESSES SIGNIFICANT

1:58:37 DISPARITIES IN HOUSING NEEDS

1:58:38 AND AN ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY

1:58:40 REPLACING SEGREGATED LIVING

1:58:41 PATTERNS BUT TRULY INTEGRATED

1:58:43 AND BALANCED LIVING PATTERNS

1:58:44 AND TRANSFORMING RACIALLY AND

1:58:46 ETHNICALLY CONCENTRATED AREAS

1:58:48 OF POVERTY INTO AREAS

1:58:49 OF OPPORTUNITY.

1:58:50 FAIR HOUSING CANNOT BE AN

1:58:52 AFTERTHOUGHT.

1:58:52 IT CANNOT BE A NICE TO HAVE

1:58:54 APPENDED TO THE END OF A

1:58:55 HOUSING PLAN.

1:58:56 IT IS THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH

1:58:57 EVERYTHING ELSE STANDS.

1:58:59 HOUSING IS THE NUMBER ONE

1:59:00 CHALLENGE FACING THE PEOPLE

1:59:01 OF THE CITY.

1:59:02 EVERY DAY WE DELAY MORE.

1:59:04 BOSTONIANS ARE PUSHED FURTHER

1:59:05 TO THE MARGINS AND ITS BLACK

1:59:06 AND BROWN RESIDENTS,

1:59:08 IMMIGRANTS, PEOPLE WITH

1:59:10 DISABILITIES AND LOW INCOME

1:59:11 FAMILIES ARE THOSE WHO ARE

1:59:12 PUSHED HARDEST AND FURTHEST.

1:59:14 SO I'M ASKING THE CITY

1:59:15 OF BOSTON TO COMMIT HARD NOT

1:59:17 WITH STATEMENTS BUT WITH

1:59:19 RESOURCES AND THE BUDGET

1:59:21 ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY

1:59:22 THROUGH THE AGENCIES WE DEMAND

1:59:24 INCREASED STAFF AND FUNDING FOR

1:59:25 FAIR HOUSING TESTING AND

1:59:27 ENFORCEMENT.

1:59:28 WE DEMAND TYING CITY DOLLARS TO

1:59:30 REAL AFFORDABILITY AND REAL

1:59:31 ACCESS AND WE DEMAND MEASURABLE

1:59:33 GOALS AND PUBLIC REPORTING.

1:59:35 WE MUST NOT SHY AWAY FROM

1:59:37 EMBRACING FAIR HOUSING.

1:59:38 IT IS THE LEGACY OF OUR

1:59:39 ANCESTORS AND ONE OF THE MOST

1:59:40 POWERFUL TOOLS WE HAVE TO

1:59:41 ADDRESS CHALLENGES.

1:59:42 THANK YOU.

1:59:43 THANK YOU OKAY.

1:59:46 WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE

1:59:48 FORWARD WITH OUR SECOND PANEL

1:59:49 ON.

1:59:50 AND DUANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH

1:59:51 FOR BEING HERE.

1:59:53 IF YOU CAN.

1:59:54 PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES

1:59:55 KEEP YOUR TITLES OFFICER YOU

1:59:57 WORK FOR AND THEN YOU MAY

1:59:58 PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.

2:00:00 OR IS YOURS.

2:00:02 THANK YOU.

2:00:02 UH, MR CHAIR, I WANT TO THANK

2:00:04 THE CHAIR SPONSORS, UM, THE

2:00:06 COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND, UM, THE

2:00:08 REST OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT

2:00:10 HERE.

2:00:11 UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR

2:00:12 COLLEAGUES.

2:00:13 WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THIS

2:00:14 WORK.

2:00:15 AND WHO.

2:00:16 CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS

2:00:17 WORK AND.

2:00:18 TO THIS PRESENTATION.

2:00:20 UM AND SPECIAL THANKS TO THE

2:00:21 LATE BOB TERRELL WHO WORKED ON

2:00:23 THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

2:00:24 AS AN ADVOCATE, AS A STAFF

2:00:27 MEMBER AT THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:00:28 AUTHORITY AND AS THE EXECUTIVE

2:00:31 DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:00:32 HOUSING AND EQUITY AND ALSO TO

2:00:34 JOYCE RIVERA GONZALEZ, WHO

2:00:35 OWNED MUCH OF THIS WORK AS A

2:00:37 PROJECT LEAD AT THE OFFICE

2:00:38 OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.

2:00:40 MY NAME IS UNLEY.

2:00:42 UM I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF

2:00:44 OF POLICY AND PROGRAMS AT THE

2:00:45 EQUITY AND INCLUSION CABINET.

2:00:47 GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

2:00:49 MY NAME IS DUANE WANTS.

2:00:50 AND.

2:00:51 THE DEPUTY.

2:00:52 DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:00:53 HOUSING.

2:00:53 AND EQUITY.

2:00:54 UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE

2:00:56 TODAY.

2:00:56 TO TALK ABOUT, UH.

2:00:57 THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.

2:01:03 SO I'LL START UM.

2:01:05 SO THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING

2:01:06 INEQUITY, WHAT.

2:01:07 DO.

2:01:07 WE DO?

2:01:08 UM, OUR OFFICE.

2:01:09 IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING.

2:01:11 FEDERAL AND LOCAL.

2:01:12 FAIR HOUSING LAWS.

2:01:13 AND OUR SHOP.

2:01:14 IS.

2:01:15 BROKEN UP.

2:01:15 INTO TWO DIFFERENT PIECES.

2:01:16 SO THERE'S THE INVESTIGATIVE

2:01:17 SIDE THAT DOES.

2:01:18 INVESTIGATIONS AND ENFORCEMENT

2:01:19 AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE

2:01:20 POLICY AND.

2:01:21 OUTREACH PIECE.

2:01:22 UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE

2:01:23 INVESTIGATION PIECE GOES, UM,

2:01:25 WE INVESTIGATE HOUSING.

2:01:26 DISCRIMINATION.

2:01:27 ENFORCE FEDERAL AND STATE.

2:01:29 FEDERAL AND.

2:01:30 STATE HOUSING LAWS.

2:01:31 UM AND THEN WE HAVE.

2:01:32 FOLKS FILED.

2:01:33 COMPLAINTS UM, AND THOSE IN

2:01:35 THOSE HOUSING COMPLAINTS UM

2:01:36 THEY MUST HAPPEN IN BOSTON.

2:01:38 UM THERE MUST BE AN EFFECTIVE

2:01:39 PARTY.

2:01:39 THAT BELONGS.

2:01:40 TO A.

2:01:41 PROTECTED CLASS.

2:01:41 AND THERE'S A TIMELINESS PIECE

2:01:43 IN IT AS WELL.

2:01:44 WHERE FOLKS HAVE TO FILE WITHIN

2:01:46 180 DAYS OF THE.

2:01:48 OF THE.

2:01:48 DISCRIMINATORY ACT.

2:01:50 THE OTHER PIECE OF OUR SHOP IS

2:01:52 POLICY AND OUTREACH.

2:01:54 AND THAT'S WHERE THE

2:01:55 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

2:01:56 HOUSING FOR.

2:01:57 ALL SORT OF FALLS INTO PLAY.

2:01:59 THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION

2:02:00 OF THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

2:02:01 HOUSING, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE

2:02:02 ACTION.

2:02:03 PLAN WITH MORE.

2:02:04 THAN 100 ACTION ITEMS.

2:02:06 UM WE ALSO OFFER TRAININGS ON

2:02:07 FAIR HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY

2:02:09 AND EXTERNALLY AND INTERNALLY

2:02:11 AS WELL.

2:02:11 UM.

2:02:12 AND THEN WE ALSO ENGAGE WITH

2:02:13 FAIR HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS,

2:02:15 AGENCIES.

2:02:16 REGIONALLY AND NATIONWIDE.

2:02:21 SO I'M.

2:02:21 GOING TO GO OVER UM SOME

2:02:23 OF THE UH THE BACKGROUND VERY

2:02:24 QUICKLY.

2:02:25 I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THIS HAS

2:02:26 ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED SO I

2:02:27 APOLOGIZE.

2:02:28 UM, WE UH, ANTICIPATED UM BEING

2:02:30 ON THE FIRST PANEL.

2:02:32 SO UM, JUST WANTED TO UH UH,

2:02:35 SAY UH AND AFFIRM THAT, UH,

2:02:38 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR

2:02:39 HOUSING UM, COMES OUT OF THE

2:02:43 FEDERAL UH, FAIR HOUSING ACT.

2:02:45 UH, BUT UM, THE FEDERAL

2:02:47 GOVERNMENT UH, DID NOT UH, PAY

2:02:50 MUCH ATTENTION TO IT UH, UNTIL

2:02:52 THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IN

2:02:54 2015, UH, WHEN IT ISSUED A RULE

2:02:57 UM, AND ESSENTIALLY AS MANY

2:02:59 HAVE SAID, UM IT'S AN

2:03:00 OBLIGATION TO TAKE PROACTIVE

2:03:01 STEPS, UM, TO UNDO HISTORIC

2:03:03 PATTERNS OF SEGREGATION,

2:03:05 ADDRESS DISPARITIES AND EXPAND

2:03:07 ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY AS

2:03:08 RELATES TO HOUSING.

2:03:14 SO WHEN THE OBAMA

2:03:15 ADMINISTRATION UM, ISSUED THIS

2:03:17 .

2:03:17 RULE.

2:03:17 THE CITY OF BOSTON, UH,

2:03:19 BEGAN THE PROCESS OF CREATING

2:03:20 AN ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

2:03:22 IN 2016, UM ENLISTED A

2:03:25 COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

2:03:26 YOU'VE MET SOME OF THOSE UH,

2:03:28 FOLKS UH, JUST NOW ON THE

2:03:30 PREVIOUS PANEL.

2:03:31 UM, AND IN 2022, UM, MAYOR WU

2:03:35 ISSUED HER FIRST EXECUTIVE

2:03:36 ORDER UM, UNDER HER UM

2:03:40 ADMINISTRATION WHICH WAS, UH,

2:03:43 TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE

2:03:45 ACTION ITEMS OF THE ASSESSMENT

2:03:46 OF FAIR HOUSING.

2:03:50 SO, UH, AS YOU MAY HAVE

2:03:51 TROUBLE.

2:03:52 READING HERE.

2:03:54 UM, THERE ARE 14 GOALS.

2:03:57 UM, AND WITHIN THOSE GOALS

2:03:59 THERE ARE UM SEVERAL ACTION

2:04:02 STEPS FOR EACH GOAL UM TOTALING

2:04:04 TO 108 ACTION STEPS.

2:04:07 UM, SO UH EVEN THOUGH IT'S

2:04:09 CALLED AN ASSESSMENT UH AND

2:04:11 REVIEW THE HISTORICAL AND

2:04:12 CURRENT STATE OF FAIR HOUSING

2:04:14 IN BOSTON UH AND INCORPORATED

2:04:16 COMMUNITY INPUT.

2:04:16 ALL RIGHT.

2:04:17 CONSIDER DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AND

2:04:19 OTHER FACTORS.

2:04:20 UH IT ALSO IDENTIFIED AREAS

2:04:22 OF OPPORTUNITY RIGHT.

2:04:23 AND AND THOSE AREAS

2:04:25 OF OPPORTUNITY TRANSLATE INTO

2:04:26 THESE UH TANGIBLE ACTION STEPS

2:04:28 ,UM, THAT SORT OF FLOW FROM

2:04:30 THE 14.

2:04:31 GOALS SO THE ACTION STEPS

2:04:33 THEMSELVES.

2:04:33 UM, UH SOME OF THE ACTION STEPS

2:04:35 THEMSELVES HAVE UH SUB UH TASKS

2:04:38 AS WELL.

2:04:41 SO THE MAIN STAKEHOLDERS

2:04:42 INVOLVED IN CARRYING OUT UH THE

2:04:45 ACTION STEPS UM, AND THE GOALS

2:04:48 ARE WHAT WE CALL REPORTING

2:04:51 AGENCIES.

2:04:51 SO THIS IS SEVEN UH CITY

2:04:54 OF BOSTON AGENCIES MAYOR'S

2:04:56 OFFICE OF HOUSING PLANNING

2:04:58 DEPARTMENT, THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:04:59 AUTHORITY, THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:05:01 HOUSING AND EQUITY ITSELF, UH,

2:05:02 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE

2:05:04 BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH

2:05:05 COMMISSION.

2:05:06 SO THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES

2:05:08 FROM EACH OF.

2:05:09 THOSE AGENCIES.

2:05:09 WHO UH, ARE UM TASKED WITH UM

2:05:15 ENSURING THAT THEY'RE UH

2:05:17 RESPECTIVE AGENCY IS UH, MAKING

2:05:20 PROGRESS.

2:05:21 ON THESE GOALS.

2:05:22 THERE IS THE MONITORING

2:05:24 COMMITTEE UM, THAT IS UH

2:05:26 COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THE

2:05:29 COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT

2:05:30 .

2:05:31 DID THE ASSESSMENT.

2:05:32 UM THERE ARE UH FOUR.

2:05:34 OF THE.

2:05:36 ORGANIZATIONS UH, REPRESENTED

2:05:37 NAMED HERE BUT THERE ARE OTHER

2:05:38 FOLKS AS WELL.

2:05:39 UH, AND THEN THERE ARE

2:05:40 COORDINATING BODIES.

2:05:41 SO THE IMPLEMENTATION IS

2:05:42 COORDINATED BY THE OFFICE

2:05:44 OF FAIR HOUSING EQUITY AND BY

2:05:46 LEADERSHIP IN THE EQUITY

2:05:46 INCLUSION CABINET.

2:05:47 UM, THAT'S OUTLINED UH, IN THE

2:05:50 MAYOR'S SECOND ORDER AS WELL AS

2:05:51 THE ASSESSMENT.

2:05:52 UM, AND SO UM, WHAT WE DO IS UH

2:05:55 ,AS THE COORDINATING BODIES UH

2:05:58 ,IS WE COLLECT UPDATES FROM

2:05:59 THE.

2:05:59 REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:06:01 WE CONVEY THE PRIORITIES.

2:06:02 OF THE AGENCIES.

2:06:03 UM, TO UH, THE MONITORING

2:06:05 COMMITTEE, WE CONVEY THE

2:06:07 MONITORING COMMITTEE'S

2:06:08 PRIORITIES TO THE.

2:06:09 REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:06:10 AND THEN WE CONVENE ALL OF THEM

2:06:11 QUARTERLY.

2:06:13 UM, OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER.

2:06:14 DEPARTMENTS THAT, UH, HAVE

2:06:17 ASSIGNMENTS AND OTHERS WITH.

2:06:19 ROLES UH, TO PLAY AS

2:06:21 COLLABORATORS.

2:06:23 SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE EIGHT

2:06:24 STRONG COMMISSION.

2:06:29 SO I WANTED TO SHARE A.

2:06:30 LITTLE BIT.

2:06:31 ABOUT.

2:06:31 HOW UH WE TRACK PROGRESS.

2:06:33 UM, THAT UH WASN'T REALLY

2:06:35 COVERED IN THE.

2:06:36 ASSESSMENT OR THE EXECUTIVE

2:06:37 ORDER.

2:06:37 AND SO OUT OF UM UH, SOME UH,

2:06:41 CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MONITOR

2:06:43 COMMITTEE AND REPORTING

2:06:43 AGENCIES AND LOOKING AT BEST

2:06:45 PRACTICES UM, IN THE UNITED

2:06:46 STATES, UM, WE DECIDED TO.

2:06:48 GO.

2:06:48 WITH THIS AND UNFORTUNATELY.

2:06:49 IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT.

2:06:50 CHALLENGING TO SEE.

2:06:52 SO RATHER THAN SAYING THAT

2:06:54 SOMETHING UH, IS UH IN

2:06:57 PROGRESS.

2:06:57 AND THEN DONE OR.

2:06:58 SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN

2:06:59 YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HOW DO WE

2:07:01 FIGURE THAT OUT?

2:07:01 UH, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH UH.

2:07:03 INFANCY PLANNING, PILOTING,

2:07:06 EVALUATING AND SUSTAINING AND

2:07:08 WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH

2:07:10 UH SUSTAINING IN PARTICULAR UM

2:07:13 ,TO SORT OF IMPRESS UPON ALL.

2:07:16 OF THE CITY AGENCIES INVOLVED.

2:07:17 THAT UM, THIS.

2:07:19 WORK IS NOT A CHECKBOX THAT WE

2:07:21 SAY IS DONE AND THAT.

2:07:22 WE.

2:07:22 DON'T.

2:07:22 THINK ABOUT IT AND DON'T, YOU.

2:07:23 KNOW, DO ANYTHING.

2:07:24 ABOUT IT UH, EVER.

2:07:25 AGAIN BUT RATHER THAT IT IS

2:07:27 WORK THAT WE CONTINUE.

2:07:28 TO DO.

2:07:30 UM UH AND UH IT'S YOU KNOW,

2:07:33 JUST PART OF UM, WHAT WE'RE

2:07:35 SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

2:07:38 SO, UM.

2:07:40 MAYOR WU UM.

2:07:42 SORT OF ACTIVATED UM, THE

2:07:44 TRACKING OF THIS WORK IN

2:07:47 JANUARY 2022, UM, THE REPORTING

2:07:50 OF THE IMPLEMENTATION ONCE WE

2:07:51 SORT OF FIGURE OUT FIGURED OUT

2:07:53 EXCUSE ME, ALL OF THE, UM,

2:07:55 LOGISTICS.

2:07:56 OF IT.

2:07:56 BEGAN IN OCTOBER 2023.

2:07:59 UM, AS OF UM JULY UH, 49%

2:08:06 OF THE ACTUAL 108 ACTION ITEMS

2:08:08 ARE IN SUSTAINING STATUS.

2:08:11 UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, UM,

2:08:13 THERE IS NO PERFECT MEASURE

2:08:15 ACROSS ALL 108 ITEMS TO SAY

2:08:18 THAT SOMETHING IS EVEN FITTING,

2:08:20 YOU KNOW, SORT OF THIS

2:08:21 FRAMEWORK UM, SOME ACTION ITEMS

2:08:23 REQUIRE A LOT MORE.

2:08:24 RESOURCES THAN OTHERS.

2:08:26 UM, AS I MENTIONED SOME ITEMS

2:08:28 HAVE SUBTASKS SO IF THERE ARE,

2:08:30 YOU KNOW, FIVE SUBTASKS AND ONE

2:08:33 OF THEM HAS NOT HIT SUSTAINING

2:08:35 WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT

2:08:36 SUSTAINING YET RIGHT.

2:08:38 UM AND FURTHER SOME ITEMS ARE

2:08:39 STRUCTURED OR ASSIGNED IN WAYS

2:08:41 THAT UM ARE CHALLENGING TO

2:08:44 IMPLEMENT AND UM.

2:08:46 SO WE.

2:08:47 UM HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZING.

2:08:48 SORT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN

2:08:49 PRIORITY PRIORITIES EXCUSE.

2:08:52 ME.

2:08:52 FOR THE MANAGED COMMITTEE AND

2:08:53 FOR THE REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:08:54 UH.

2:08:55 FIRST UM SO WITH THIS IN MIND.

2:08:57 WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW

2:08:58 OF THE GOALS UH, AND THE ACTION

2:09:00 ITEMS UM, AND THE PROGRESS MADE

2:09:02 .

2:09:03 UM AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM,

2:09:05 I'LL, UH, PASS IT BACK TO

2:09:07 DWAYNE TO UM, SHARE UH, OTHER.

2:09:10 WORK THAT THE OFFICE FOR

2:09:12 HOUSING EQUITY IS DOING TO

2:09:14 AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR

2:09:15 HOUSING.

2:09:16 BECAUSE OF COURSE THE PRINCIPAL

2:09:18 IS.

2:09:18 A LARGE PART ACCOMPLISHED BY

2:09:20 THIS ASSESSMENT AND IT'S ACTION

2:09:22 ITEMS BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY SO.

2:09:27 SO THE FIRST GOAL IS.

2:09:29 UH, FOCUSED ON HOUSING ACCESS.

2:09:31 FOR UH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES

2:09:33 AND OLDER ADULTS.

2:09:34 UM, WE KNOW THAT UM THEY HAVE

2:09:37 UM.

2:09:37 A PARTICULARLY STRONG NEED FOR

2:09:39 PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE.

2:09:40 HOUSING UM AND OFTEN HAVE UH

2:09:43 LOWER INCOMES UM, UNDER THE

2:09:46 HOUSING BOSTON 2030 PLAN, UM.

2:09:49 THERE WAS A DISABILITY.

2:09:51 HOUSING TASK FORCE FORMED AND

2:09:53 UM SO THEY UM.

2:09:55 ALSO GAVE INPUT UH IN ADDITION

2:09:56 ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT UH,

2:09:58 FOR THIS ACTION ITEM SOME UH

2:10:00 EXCUSE ME FOR THIS GOAL UH,

2:10:02 SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS UH,

2:10:04 ARE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.

2:10:05 FOR PEOPLE WITH

2:10:06 DISABILITIES.

2:10:07 WHO ARE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC

2:10:08 HOMELESSNESS, UH, AND OR

2:10:10 SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.

2:10:11 EXPLORE THE USE OF UNIVERSAL.

2:10:12 DESIGN, UH, IN HOUSING

2:10:14 DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE CITY.

2:10:15 FUNDS AND SUPPORTING COMMUNITY

2:10:17 BASED AGE FRIENDLY ALTERNATIVE

2:10:19 HOUSING OPTIONS.

2:10:20 UM SO THE.

2:10:21 WAY THAT.

2:10:22 THESE UH ACTIONS ITEMS HAVE

2:10:24 BEEN MET ARE UM UH OUTLINED IN

2:10:28 BOSTON'S WAY HOME.

2:10:30 2026, WHICH.

2:10:31 IS THE ACTION PLAN TO END

2:10:32 INDIVIDUAL HOMELESSNESS.

2:10:33 UM, AND UH THE.

2:10:35 UNIVERSAL DESIGN.

2:10:36 ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS HAVE

2:10:38 BEEN INCORPORATED NOW INTO THE

2:10:40 MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING

2:10:41 DESIGN STANDARDS.

2:10:42 UM, OUT OF UH COLLABORATION

2:10:45 WITH THE EIGHT STRONG

2:10:47 COMMISSION AND THE.

2:10:47 DISABILITIES COMMISSION.

2:10:59 NEXT WE.

2:11:00 WANT.

2:11:00 TO.

2:11:00 HIGHLIGHT GOAL NUMBER TWO.

2:11:01 DON'T WORRY I'M NOT GOING TO GO

2:11:02 THROUGH EVERY.

2:11:02 SINGLE GOAL.

2:11:04 UM THIS ONE IS FOCUSED.

2:11:05 ON REDUCING.

2:11:06 PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.

2:11:07 UM, SO UM I CAN LEAVE IT UH FOR

2:11:10 FOLKS UH, TO.

2:11:11 SEE ON THE SCREEN THE.

2:11:13 UH, DISPARITIES UH BY UH UM BY

2:11:17 RACE.

2:11:17 AND.

2:11:18 ETHNICITY.

2:11:18 UH, AS IT COMES TO

2:11:19 HOMELESSNESS.

2:11:20 UM, AND THERE'S UH ACTION ITEMS

2:11:22 THAT ARE.

2:11:22 PARTICULARLY FOCUSED.

2:11:23 ON THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY

2:11:25 AS WELL AS UM, UH, ACCESS TO

2:11:29 COUNCILOR AND HOUSING AND

2:11:30 DISTRICT COURTS.

2:11:31 UM AND SO UM IN TERMS.

2:11:34 OF RECENT.

2:11:34 UPDATES, UM, THERE IS A UH A

2:11:38 MAJOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE

2:11:40 BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND UM

2:11:42 THE BOSTON PUBLIC.

2:11:43 SCHOOLS.

2:11:44 UM, IN A PROGRAM CALLED THE

2:11:46 FAMILY LED.

2:11:47 STABILITY INITIATIVE.

2:11:48 UM, THIS UH HOUSES FAMILIES

2:11:51 WITH STUDENTS WHO ATTEND AND

2:11:52 ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

2:11:54 IT STARTED IN 2020 UH WITH UM

2:11:58 BOSTON'S HIGHER GROUND.

2:11:59 UM SO SHOUT OUT TO HIGHER

2:12:00 GROUND HERE UM AND HAS

2:12:02 SUPPORTED OVER 1000 FAMILIES UH

2:12:04 AT THIS POINT MORE THAN THAT

2:12:05 ACTUALLY.

2:12:07 UM SO UH IT IT SHOWS HOW THE

2:12:10 CITY OF BOSTON CAN DO A

2:12:12 INTERAGENCY PARTNERSHIP, UH.

2:12:14 AS WELL AS AN EXTERNAL

2:12:15 PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THIS

2:12:16 HAPPEN.

2:12:16 UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP

2:12:18 WITH THE BOSTON PUBLIC.

2:12:20 HEALTH COMMISSION.

2:12:20 UH, FOR HEALTHY START AND

2:12:22 HOUSING.

2:12:22 UH.

2:12:22 SO THAT'S.

2:12:23 BETWEEN BPD AND VHA.

2:12:25 AS WELL AS UH, ONE WITH THE

2:12:27 STATE CALLED LEADING THE WAY

2:12:28 HOME.

2:12:30 UM.

2:12:31 MORE RECENTLY IN.

2:12:32 AUGUST UM UH UH AS A AS A DRAFT

2:12:36 FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THE MAYOR'S

2:12:38 OFFICE OF HOUSING IS UM, UH,

2:12:40 SORT OF PREVIEWING AND

2:12:42 PREPARING THE RELEASE OF THE.

2:12:43 FINAL RESIDENTIAL EVICTION

2:12:45 PREVENTION ACTION PLAN.

2:12:46 SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING

2:12:47 IN THE COMING WEEKS.

2:12:48 THAT'S A CITYWIDE EFFORT TO.

2:12:49 REACH PEOPLE EARLIER.

2:12:51 BEFORE A COURT CASE.

2:12:53 UH, HAPPENS AND TO WORK WITH

2:12:54 TENANTS, LANDLORDS AND

2:12:55 COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO.

2:12:56 KEEP OUR RESIDENTS HOUSED.

2:13:01 SKIPPING TO UH GOAL NUMBER FOUR

2:13:04 UH EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE FOR

2:13:05 VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:13:07 SO UM YOU'VE.

2:13:07 HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTARY ABOUT

2:13:09 UM VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:13:10 SO THIS IS.

2:13:12 UH UM.

2:13:13 YOU KNOW, A.

2:13:14 LOT OF THE ACTION ITEMS ARE LED

2:13:15 BY THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY

2:13:16 .

2:13:17 SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.

2:13:17 THE ECHO MOBILITY.

2:13:19 PROGRAM UM, WHICH UH IS STANDS

2:13:22 FOR EXPANDED.

2:13:24 UM EXCUSE ME.

2:13:25 IT UH.

2:13:27 IT HELPED FAMILIES GO TO

2:13:29 EXPANDED CHOICE COMMUNITIES.

2:13:32 UM AND SO THAT HELPS FAMILIES

2:13:33 MOVE IN THE.

2:13:34 SUMMER UM, PROVIDES UH,

2:13:36 WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

2:13:37 UM, SO.

2:13:38 THAT HELPS UH, FAMILIES, YOU

2:13:40 KNOW, NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT

2:13:42 UH, CHANGING UH.

2:13:43 SCHOOLS FOR THEIR.

2:13:44 CHILDREN UM, MID-YEAR, UM,

2:13:46 THERE WERE UH, 100 NEW UH,

2:13:48 APPLICANTS.

2:13:49 SEEKING ASSISTANCE.

2:13:50 DURING LAST SUMMER.

2:13:51 UM, AND SO THEY ALSO DO UM, YOU

2:13:54 KNOW, AS PART OF THE WRAPAROUND

2:13:55 WORK THEY.

2:13:55 THEY DO.

2:13:56 UH.

2:13:57 POST MOVE.

2:13:57 SUPPORT.

2:13:58 UH, HOME VISITS.

2:14:00 UM AND THEY ALSO.

2:14:01 MAKE THESE.

2:14:01 UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ADVANCED

2:14:03 CONNECTIONS UH, WITH FAMILIES

2:14:05 SO THAT THEY HAVE AN

2:14:06 UNDERSTANDING OF UM, WHAT SORT

2:14:09 OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES.

2:14:10 LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE

2:14:11 SCHOOLS.

2:14:11 OFFER AND YOU KNOW, PARK SPACE

2:14:14 ETC. UM, IN TERMS OF UH,

2:14:17 REVIEWING ADMISSIONS, OCCUPANCY

2:14:18 AND.

2:14:19 OUTREACH POLICIES FOR.

2:14:20 VHA.

2:14:22 UM THE OCCUPANCY RATE.

2:14:24 IS UM.

2:14:25 CURRENTLY ABOUT 97%.

2:14:28 UM IT IS UH.

2:14:30 LOOKING TO USE INTERNAL

2:14:33 RESOURCES TO RESTRUCTURE ITS

2:14:34 WAITLIST.

2:14:35 SO INTERNAL UM COMPUTER.

2:14:36 SOFTWARE RESOURCES.

2:14:39 UM THEY ARE UM SETTING UP

2:14:43 REGULAR AND AUTOMATED NOTICES

2:14:44 TO UPDATE APPLICANTS ABOUT

2:14:45 THEIR.

2:14:45 WAITLIST STATUS.

2:14:47 UM AND IT'S ALSO SENT BY MAIL

2:14:49 QUARTERLY.

2:14:49 UM, SO IT'S HELPING UH IT'S A

2:14:52 IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE SURE

2:14:53 THAT FOLKS WHO ARE UH WAITING

2:14:55 UM, ARE.

2:14:56 JUST SORT.

2:14:57 OF CLEARLY COMMUNICATED WITH

2:14:58 HAVE REGULAR UPDATES.

2:15:00 ABOUT UM WHERE THEIR

2:15:02 APPLICATIONS ARE AT.

2:15:03 UM.

2:15:08 AND ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE UH HAS

2:15:10 SHOWN THAT UM THERE HAS BEEN

2:15:13 UM.

2:15:14 SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AT

2:15:15 LEAST ON THE PROJECT BASED

2:15:17 VOUCHER SIDE OF THE WAITLIST.

2:15:19 UM AND EMPLOYEES AT THE BOSTON

2:15:21 HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVE REPORTED

2:15:23 THAT UM.

2:15:25 IT IS UM.

2:15:27 UH.

2:15:28 YOU KNOW.

2:15:29 EASIER AND MORE SMOOTH TO

2:15:31 ENGAGE.

2:15:31 WITH APPLICANTS BECAUSE THERE'S

2:15:33 ALSO.

2:15:33 UH, YOU.

2:15:34 KNOW.

2:15:34 YOU KNOW.

2:15:35 THE ISSUE OF MAKING SURE

2:15:36 THAT.

2:15:36 APPLICANTS ARE.

2:15:37 AWARE THAT THEY'VE GONE.

2:15:37 OFF THE WAITLIST AND THEN

2:15:39 QUICKLY.

2:15:39 MOVE IN AND AND UM.

2:15:40 UH AND RECEIVE UM SERVICES FROM

2:15:43 BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY.

2:15:47 UM GOAL NUMBER SEVEN UM WHICH

2:15:49 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UH QUITE A

2:15:51 BIT UM, SO UM THAT IS USING

2:15:55 ZONING AS A FAIR HOUSING TOOL.

2:15:57 UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A

2:15:59 LOT OF.

2:15:59 UH.

2:16:00 EXCLUSIONARY ZONING.

2:16:01 UH, AND WE ARE UH AND HAVE BEEN

2:16:04 WORKING TOWARDS UM, GETTING

2:16:07 INCLUSIONARY ZONING.

2:16:08 UM.

2:16:09 THERE WAS.

2:16:10 THE FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENT TO

2:16:12 THE BOSTON ZONING CODE.

2:16:13 UH, A FEW.

2:16:14 YEARS AGO.

2:16:14 AND SO, UM, WE CAN UM, YOU

2:16:19 KNOW, UM.

2:16:20 TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW

2:16:23 EXCUSE ME ABOUT HOW WE HAVE,

2:16:27 YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW ACTIONS

2:16:28 RELATED TO THE PLANNING

2:16:30 DEPARTMENT.

2:16:30 UM, CONNECTS WITH THIS GOAL.

2:16:34 UM, SO.

2:16:35 UH, WE YOU.

2:16:36 KNOW, IN THE PREVIOUS PANEL,

2:16:37 UM, SOMEBODY UH, ADDRESSED.

2:16:40 UH.

2:16:41 THE AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING

2:16:42 FAIR HOUSING ZONING

2:16:43 SELF-ASSESSMENT, UM, AND HOW

2:16:45 THAT IS UH, WORKING OUT UM.

2:16:48 THOSE SUBMISSIONS.

2:16:50 BY DEVELOPERS ARE REVIEWED BY.

2:16:53 50 UH, SO GIFT STANDS FOR THE

2:16:55 BOSTON INTERAGENCY FAIR HOUSING

2:16:57 DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.

2:16:58 UM, THAT IS.

2:17:00 A COMMITTEE.

2:17:01 UH, OF.

2:17:02 REPRESENTATIVES FROM UH.

2:17:04 FIVE KEY.

2:17:05 CITY DEPARTMENTS.

2:17:07 UM, TO UM.

2:17:09 DISCUSS THE FAIR.

2:17:11 HOUSING.

2:17:11 IMPLICATIONS OF EACH.

2:17:13 ARTICLE 80 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED

2:17:14 .

2:17:15 UM THE AGENCIES ARE UM CORRECT

2:17:18 ME HELP ME OUT IF I GET THIS

2:17:20 WRONG UH, BOSTON HOUSING

2:17:21 AUTHORITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT,

2:17:22 MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING.

2:17:23 THE DISABILITIES.

2:17:24 COMMISSION AND THE OFFICE

2:17:26 OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.

2:17:27 SO.

2:17:28 UM, EVERY TIME THERE'S A

2:17:30 PROPOSAL.

2:17:30 TO BE REVIEWED.

2:17:31 UM, THERE IS A UM.

2:17:34 CITY EMPLOYEE.

2:17:36 WHO.

2:17:37 CONVENES THOSE FIVE.

2:17:38 REPRESENTATIVES THEY DISCUSS AT

2:17:39 LENGTH.

2:17:40 THEY CONSIDER WHAT HAS.

2:17:41 BEEN SUBMITTED.

2:17:42 UH, AND THEY MAKE

2:17:43 RECOMMENDATIONS UM, AS TO UH,

2:17:45 HOW TO ADVANCE FAIR HOUSING,

2:17:47 UH, FOR UH EACH DEVELOPMENT.

2:17:54 UM, AS I'M SURE THE COUNCIL.

2:17:56 IS ALSO WELL AWARE, THE.

2:17:58 CITY'S DOING A LOT OF.

2:17:59 UPDATES TO.

2:18:00 ZONING OVERALL.

2:18:01 AND SO UM.

2:18:03 I THINK THE.

2:18:05 UH THE THE.

2:18:06 THREAD HERE IS THAT UM THERE IS

2:18:11 UH, EFFORT.

2:18:13 TO UM, INCORPORATE FAIR HOUSING

2:18:15 .

2:18:15 PRINCIPLES INTO THIS WORK.

2:18:18 SO FOR.

2:18:18 EXAMPLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD

2:18:19 HOUSING.

2:18:20 ZONING UH INITIATIVE UM.

2:18:22 YOU KNOW.

2:18:22 IT'S IT'S TRYING TO HELP REMOVE

2:18:24 BARRIERS FOR.

2:18:25 SMALL PROJECTS.

2:18:26 FOR UH.

2:18:27 INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.

2:18:29 UM, SO.

2:18:31 UM THAT.

2:18:33 IS UM.

2:18:33 SORT.

2:18:34 OF WOVEN.

2:18:35 IN UM AND.

2:18:37 UH THE UH OFFICE OF FAIR

2:18:38 HOUSING AND EQUITY.

2:18:40 UM ALSO IS UH PLAYING A.

2:18:42 ROLE IN WEIGHING IN ON UH

2:18:45 ARTICLE.

2:18:45 80.

2:18:46 UH MODERNIZATION.

2:18:51 SO UH, GOAL.

2:18:52 11 IS.

2:18:52 UH.

2:18:53 SUPPORTING RESIDENTS.

2:18:54 FACING DISPLACEMENT.

2:18:56 UM, THERE IS UM.

2:18:59 THE TWO.

2:19:00 THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS.

2:19:01 FIRST A.

2:19:02 PARTICULAR PROGRAM WHICH IS

2:19:03 LOTTERY PREFERENCE OR A

2:19:04 PARTICULAR.

2:19:04 POLICY EXCUSE ME LOTTERY

2:19:05 PREFERENCE.

2:19:06 FOR INCOME.

2:19:07 RESTRICTED HOUSING.

2:19:08 UH HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR

2:19:09 DIRECTLY.

2:19:09 DISPLACED AND SEVERELY.

2:19:10 RENT BURDENED.

2:19:11 HOUSEHOLDS.

2:19:13 AND UM.

2:19:15 THE OTHER THING I WANT TO

2:19:16 HIGHLIGHT IS.

2:19:17 THE CITY'S ANTI.

2:19:18 DISPLACEMENT ACTION PLAN A

2:19:19 PLACE TO THRIVE AND HOW IT.

2:19:21 ADDRESSES THIS GOAL.

2:19:22 UM THE YEAR ONE PROJECT.

2:19:24 SUPPORT WAS.

2:19:24 JUST RELEASED.

2:19:25 UH AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT

2:19:27 UH, THREE OF UH THE NOTABLE

2:19:30 ITEMS UH IN WHICH.

2:19:31 CITIES MADE PROGRESS.

2:19:32 THE FIRST IS.

2:19:32 ACCESS TO COUNCILOR FOR

2:19:34 FAMILIES.

2:19:35 SO THIS IS, UH, LEGAL

2:19:36 COUNCILOR.

2:19:37 UH, FOR FAMILIES.

2:19:38 UM.

2:19:39 UH, FACING EVICTION.

2:19:42 UM, THE NEXT IS THE.

2:19:44 SHORE UP.

2:19:45 PILOT THAT STANDS FOR.

2:19:46 STABILIZING HOUSING.

2:19:48 FOR OUR.

2:19:48 RESIDENT ELDERS UNDER

2:19:49 PRESSURE.

2:19:50 SO I WAS A PILOT.

2:19:51 PROGRAM, UM, FOR TARGETED

2:19:53 SHORT.

2:19:54 TERM SUBSIDIES TO.

2:19:55 PROTECT LOW INCOME OLDER

2:19:56 ADULTS.

2:19:56 FROM EVICTION.

2:19:57 WHILE.

2:19:57 THEY WERE.

2:19:58 PLACEMENT IN PERMANENTLY

2:19:59 AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

2:19:59 SO IT'S, UH IT'S.

2:20:00 A STOPGAP MEASURE.

2:20:02 UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS A LONG

2:20:04 TERM SOLUTION.

2:20:05 UH, AT THE END OF IT.

2:20:07 UM, SO THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:20:09 AUTHORITY, UM, HAS OVERSIGHT

2:20:10 OVER THAT.

2:20:10 THERE'S A MONTHLY.

2:20:11 WORKING GROUP.

2:20:12 UM, WITH THE UH OFFICE OF.

2:20:14 HOUSING STABILITY.

2:20:15 WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE

2:20:16 OF HOUSING, THE BOSTON HOUSING

2:20:17 AUTHORITY AND ITS STRONG

2:20:19 COMMISSION.

2:20:20 AND THE LAST THING IS THE

2:20:21 CONDOMINIUM AND COOPERATIVE

2:20:23 CONVERSION.

2:20:23 ORDINANCE.

2:20:24 UM, THAT IS BEING.

2:20:26 PROPOSED.

2:20:26 UH, RIGHT NOW.

2:20:27 AND SO, UM AND I KNOW THAT UM

2:20:31 THAT.

2:20:31 IS THERE'S CONVERSATIONS.

2:20:33 WITH UH, THE COUNCIL ON THAT

2:20:35 FOR.

2:20:35 KEY.

2:20:35 CHANGES THAT WILL EXPAND AND

2:20:38 STRENGTHEN TENANT PROTECTIONS

2:20:40 AND IMPROVE COMPLIANCE.

2:20:44 LASTLY, FOR ME, I JUST WANTED

2:20:46 TO UH, HIGHLIGHT UH, TWO OTHER

2:20:48 ACTION ITEMS THAT FALL.

2:20:49 UNDER OTHER GOALS.

2:20:50 UH, THE FIRST IS.

2:20:51 INCREASING THE SUPPLY.

2:20:52 OF INCOME RESTRICTED

2:20:53 HOMEOWNERSHIP PROPERTIES UM.

2:20:56 THROUGH WELCOME.

2:20:56 HOME BOSTON.

2:20:57 UM, THERE'S UM.

2:20:59 CONSTRUCTION NEARLY COMPLETED.

2:21:01 WITH UNITS UH.

2:21:03 IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE.

2:21:04 STARTING THIS FALL.

2:21:05 FOR PHASE ONE, PHASE.

2:21:07 TWO 4 TO 6 TEAMS.

2:21:08 ARE UH ARE UM DOING

2:21:11 CONSTRUCTION FINANCING

2:21:13 CLOSINGS.

2:21:13 FOR THE OTHER.

2:21:14 TWO TEAMS ARE EXPECTED THIS.

2:21:15 WEEK UH AND FOR PHASE THREE UM

2:21:17 SEVEN.

2:21:18 DEVELOPMENT TEAMS HAVE BEEN

2:21:19 SELECTED.

2:21:19 THEY'RE ALL CURRENTLY DOING DUE

2:21:21 DILIGENCE.

2:21:22 UH AND THE PROJECT IS CLOSING.

2:21:23 IN FALL 2027.

2:21:26 THE OTHER ACTION ITEM UM IS

2:21:28 ENSURING THAT.

2:21:28 CITY DEPARTMENTS COLLECTING THE

2:21:30 DATA NECESSARY TO EVALUATE

2:21:32 THEIR WORK.

2:21:34 UM, TWO MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE'RE

2:21:36 DOING UM, TO MOVE THAT FORWARD

2:21:39 IS UM UH A PRE-APPLICATION ON

2:21:43 HOUSING GOT BOSTON GOV THAT IS

2:21:45 A CONSOLIDATED HOUSING

2:21:47 APPLICATION UM AND THAT WILL

2:21:48 HELP US HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC

2:21:50 INFORMATION UM ON HOUSING

2:21:52 APPLICANTS AND THE NEXT PIECE

2:21:53 IS SORT OF A PLANNING PIECE

2:21:55 THAT UH LAYS THE FOUNDATION SO

2:21:57 THAT WE CAN UM, TRACK THE

2:21:59 CONSTITUENT JOURNEY FROM THE

2:22:01 LOTTERY TO THE LEASE AND THE

2:22:03 OCCUPANCY.

2:22:05 AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MY

2:22:07 COLLEAGUE DWAYNE.

2:22:09 THANKS.

2:22:10 SO SO.

2:22:12 F EIGHT FH.

2:22:13 BEYOND THE FH.

2:22:15 OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.

2:22:16 UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

2:22:18 WE DO IN OUR SHOP IS THAT WE

2:22:20 PROVIDE OUTREACH.

2:22:21 AND EDUCATION TO.

2:22:23 DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN

2:22:25 THE COMMUNITY.

2:22:26 SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTS IN THIS

2:22:28 PARTICULAR CASE.

2:22:28 SO FOR THE COMMUNITY SIDE, UM,

2:22:31 WE TOOK A STEP BACK LAST YEAR

2:22:32 LAST FISCAL YEAR AND SORT

2:22:34 OF CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE DID

2:22:36 COMMUNITY OUTREACH.

2:22:37 AND EDUCATION.

2:22:38 UH, WE PARTNERED UP WITH OUR

2:22:40 ADMIN TEAM.

2:22:41 UM, SHOUT.

2:22:42 OUT TO RASHAD MORRISON AND

2:22:44 SUSAN MCCULLEN.

2:22:45 WHO HELPED US PUT TOGETHER.

2:22:47 UM, AN ACTION.

2:22:48 PLAN UM, BUT AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN

2:22:51 THAT THAT UM THAT UH THAT UH,

2:22:55 PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

2:22:57 RIGHT.

2:22:57 SO WE WENT OUT AND HIRED A UH

2:22:59 AN EVENT PLANNER AND WE LOOKED

2:23:01 AT THE MOST ACTIVE TIME FRAMES

2:23:03 UM, WITHIN.

2:23:04 A.

2:23:04 YEAR WHICH FOR US IS GENERALLY

2:23:05 RUNNING FROM MARCH UNTIL THE

2:23:07 END OF JUNE.

2:23:08 UM, SO WE CONTRACTED WITH THE

2:23:09 EVENT PLANNER AND AND.

2:23:11 AND BECAUSE OF THAT WORK

2:23:12 BECAUSE OF THAT COLLABORATION,

2:23:14 BECAUSE.

2:23:15 OF UM THE EFFORTS OF THE STAFF

2:23:16 WITHIN THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:23:18 HOUSING AND EQUITY IN A ENOUGH

2:23:20 UM WE HAD QUADRUPLED.

2:23:22 THE THE 26.

2:23:23 OUTREACH GOAL.

2:23:25 OF 8000.

2:23:25 CONSTITUENTS REACHED AND.

2:23:28 UM AND THEN IN FY 27 OUR.

2:23:30 OUTREACH EDUCATION STRATEGY

2:23:31 WORK.

2:23:33 WE WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT

2:23:33 ALREADY HAVE COMMUNITY TRUST.

2:23:35 SO ONE OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE

2:23:36 HAVE AS A AS A DEPARTMENT IS

2:23:39 ONE THAT PEOPLE DON'T PEOPLE

2:23:40 DON'T KNOW US INTO.

2:23:42 ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE

2:23:44 HAVE IS THAT UM, THEY DON'T

2:23:45 TRUST US.

2:23:47 UM, AND AND WE'VE HAD TO SORT

2:23:49 OF RELY HEAVILY ON ON

2:23:51 STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE.

2:23:52 THAT TRUST WITH THE.

2:23:54 CONSTITUENTS THAT WE WANT TO

2:23:55 SERVE.

2:23:56 SO WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM

2:23:57 AND WE WERE ABLE.

2:23:58 TO IN APRIL WE WERE ABLE TO.

2:24:01 UM INTO INTO A COLLABORATION

2:24:03 WITH FINANCIAL EDUCATION

2:24:04 ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS.

2:24:05 THE MAIN HOMEBUYER EDUCATION

2:24:06 PROVIDER FOR THE FIRST TIME

2:24:08 HOME BUYING STUFF.

2:24:09 SO WE.

2:24:09 TALKED TO FAMILIES ABOUT.

2:24:10 FAIR HOUSING IN THE AFFORDABLE.

2:24:13 HOME LOTTERIES.

2:24:14 HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEM?

2:24:15 WHAT DO THEY.

2:24:15 NEED TO WORK FOR?

2:24:16 WHAT DOES DISCRIMINATION LOOK

2:24:17 LIKE?

2:24:18 IN MAY.

2:24:20 WE SPONSORED UM A YOUTH

2:24:22 HOMELESS EVENT UM SYMPOSIUM.

2:24:24 WHICH ATTRACTED.

2:24:25 ABOUT 200 YOUTH.

2:24:27 UH WE TALKED ABOUT.

2:24:28 WE BROUGHT IN DIFFERENT UM

2:24:29 HOMELESS PROVIDERS WHO BROUGHT

2:24:31 .

2:24:31 IN SOME.

2:24:31 WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS.

2:24:32 IT WAS REALLY.

2:24:34 UM AN IDEA.

2:24:35 UM, THAT CAME FROM A GOOD

2:24:37 FRIEND.

2:24:37 OF MINE, JEANNIE MARTOS.

2:24:39 UM, WHO IS WHO I USED TO TALK

2:24:41 TO ALL THE TIME.

2:24:41 ABOUT YOUTH HOMELESSNESS AND

2:24:42 WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT PROVIDING

2:24:44 SUPPORT TO YOUTH.

2:24:45 HOMELESS UM TO HOMELESS.

2:24:47 YOUTH.

2:24:47 UM IN THAT THAT THAT.

2:24:49 EVENT WAS ATTENDED UH IN MAINE

2:24:51 AND.

2:24:51 WE HAD A REALLY GOOD

2:24:52 RESPONSE FROM THAT.

2:24:53 EVENT AND THEN IN JUNE.

2:24:55 UM, WE PARTICIPATED.

2:24:56 IN THE JUNETEENTH EVENT UP AT

2:24:57 FRANKLIN PARK.

2:24:58 AND IT WAS.

2:24:58 ABOUT 3000.

2:24:59 PEOPLE 4000 PEOPLE.

2:25:00 THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MARKET THE

2:25:02 OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE.

2:25:04 WRAPAROUND SERVICES.

2:25:04 TALK ABOUT.

2:25:05 I-S-D.

2:25:06 TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT,

2:25:07 TALK ABOUT UM, HOUSING

2:25:09 STABILITY, TALK ABOUT THE RATH.

2:25:10 PROGRAM.

2:25:11 BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION

2:25:12 NOT NECESSARILY.

2:25:13 INFORMATION THAT.

2:25:15 WOULD COME TO OUR SHOP.

2:25:16 .

2:25:17 UM, BUT WRAPAROUND SERVICES

2:25:18 THAT FOLKS HAVE.

2:25:19 BEEN IN.

2:25:20 IN IN AND THAT'S DESPERATELY

2:25:21 NEEDED.

2:25:21 BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS COME TO OUR

2:25:23 SHOP.

2:25:24 UM THEY GENERALLY DON'T COME

2:25:25 FOR FAIR HOUSING UM VIOLATIONS.

2:25:27 THEY GENERALLY COME FOR OTHER

2:25:29 TYPE OF HOUSING VIOLATIONS BUT

2:25:30 FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE UM THEY.

2:25:32 JUST WANT THE ASSISTANCE.

2:25:34 SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH

2:25:35 SOME WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND

2:25:36 CONNECT THEM.

2:25:37 WITH OTHER.

2:25:38 AGENCIES THAT CAN THAT CAN

2:25:40 ASSIST.

2:25:41 UM AND THEN WHAT WHAT I.

2:25:43 REALLY ENJOYED DOING LAST YEAR

2:25:45 WAS WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S.

2:25:46 OFFICE IN.

2:25:47 DOING UM THE.

2:25:49 COFFEE HOURS WHICH WERE

2:25:50 SCATTERED.

2:25:50 THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

2:25:51 UM AND I REALLY.

2:25:52 LOVED DOING WITH THE STAFF

2:25:53 WE REALLY LOVE DOING UM THE THE

2:25:55 COMMUNITY.

2:25:56 SAFETY UH, VILLAGE VIBES.

2:25:58 EVENTS THAT WERE SCATTERED.

2:26:00 THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL

2:26:00 IN.

2:26:01 ROSLINDALE AND MATTAPAN.

2:26:02 AND DORCHESTER.

2:26:02 AND MADISON PARK.

2:26:03 HIGH SCHOOL.

2:26:04 MADISON PARK UM DOWN ON

2:26:07 RUGGLES.

2:26:07 UM BUT WE BUT WE BUT WE WENT TO

2:26:09 WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE.

2:26:10 UM AND WE TRY.

2:26:11 TO DEAL WITH THEM BUT WE DID

2:26:13 DEAL WITH THEM WHERE THEY ARE

2:26:15 AND WE AND.

2:26:16 WE.

2:26:16 AND WE JUST PROVIDE.

2:26:17 THEM WITH INFORMATION SO THAT

2:26:18 THEY CAN CONNECT TO SERVICES

2:26:19 THROUGHOUT THE.

2:26:20 CITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

2:26:21 UM.

2:26:22 THE OTHER EFFORTS.

2:26:24 THAT WE'RE DOING UM, IN IN

2:26:25 THE PANEL BEFORE IS.

2:26:26 TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS

2:26:28 THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY.

2:26:29 SPENDING TIME WORKING WITH CITY

2:26:30 EMPLOYEES TO HELP THEM

2:26:32 UNDERSTAND.

2:26:32 WHAT WE DO.

2:26:34 UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS

2:26:35 THAT FOLKS JUST DON'T.

2:26:36 UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO RIGHT?

2:26:38 AND AND WE HAVE TO.

2:26:39 BE.

2:26:39 MORE INTENTIONAL.

2:26:40 WITH TALKING TO OTHER CITY

2:26:43 DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE

2:26:44 ONES THAT ARE PART OF THE FH

2:26:46 WORK.

2:26:47 UM, TODAY UM.

2:26:50 UH UH.

2:26:51 THE E AND I ACADEMY ARE.

2:26:52 HOSTING THE FIRST COHORT.

2:26:53 TODAY THAT UM.

2:26:54 THAT I THAT I.

2:26:55 AM SUPPOSED TO BE AT BUT I'M

2:26:56 HERE.

2:26:57 UM AND WE'RE TALKING.

2:26:59 TO OTHER.

2:26:59 CITY DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE

2:27:01 DO, HOW WE DO IT.

2:27:02 AND WHY THEY NEED TO LEAN ON.

2:27:04 THE EQUITY INCLUSION CABINET.

2:27:06 UM, TO HELP.

2:27:07 THEM SORT OF RESOLVE WHATEVER

2:27:08 THEIR ISSUES ARE THAT THEY'RE

2:27:09 FACING WITH.

2:27:11 SO UM SO WE'RE DOING THAT UM,

2:27:13 WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY

2:27:15 EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE ALSO.

2:27:16 IDENTIFY SPECIAL GROUPS AND

2:27:17 WE'RE.

2:27:17 VERY INTENTIONAL ON THESE.

2:27:19 SPECIAL GROUPS.

2:27:19 WE WE WORK WITH.

2:27:20 YOUNG SALES.

2:27:22 REAL ESTATE.

2:27:23 SALESPERSONS WHO UM WHO ARE

2:27:25 ENGAGING.

2:27:26 INTO THE WORK FOR THE.

2:27:27 FIRST TIME.

2:27:28 THEY'RE THEY ARE THE

2:27:29 GATEKEEPERS.

2:27:30 OF OF.

2:27:31 OF OF THESE AFFORDABLE

2:27:33 OPPORTUNITIES ALL THESE HOUSING

2:27:34 OPPORTUNITIES.

2:27:34 SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY.

2:27:35 UNDERSTAND UM WHAT'S REQUIRED.

2:27:38 UM FROM A FAIR.

2:27:38 HOUSING PERSPECTIVE WE ALSO

2:27:39 WORK WITH LANDLORDS.

2:27:40 WE WORK WITH REAL ESTATE

2:27:41 BROKERS, WE WORK WITH UH

2:27:43 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.

2:27:45 UM AND WE JUST POP UP AT

2:27:46 DIFFERENT EVENTS.

2:27:48 UM ALL.

2:27:48 THROUGHOUT THE CITY JUST

2:27:49 SHARING INFORMATION, JUST

2:27:50 MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS.

2:27:52 UM, UNDERSTAND UM THEIR RIGHTS

2:27:55 AND AND AND AND HOW TO FILE

2:27:57 COMPLAINTS.

2:28:02 AND THEN LAST SUGGEST.

2:28:05 UM SO UH JUST WANTED TO ALSO

2:28:08 SHARE UM, UH A COUPLE TWO BITS

2:28:10 UH, ABOUT HOW THE UM OFFICE

2:28:14 OF FAIR HOUSING EQUITY, UH, IS

2:28:16 INVOLVED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION

2:28:17 .

2:28:18 UH.

2:28:18 SIDE OF AFFIRMATIVELY

2:28:20 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.

2:28:21 SO, UM, UH, WE'VE SPOKEN A

2:28:24 LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW, UH,

2:28:26 WORKS, UH, AND HOW IT IS PART

2:28:29 OF THE A F H ZONING, UM, ASPECT

2:28:33 OF HOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

2:28:35 DOES ITS WORK.

2:28:36 UM, AND SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS

2:28:38 UM FOR ARTICLE 80 PROJECTS

2:28:39 WHICH ARE LARGE DEVELOPMENT

2:28:41 PROJECTS, THEY MUST CHOOSE ONE

2:28:43 FAIR HOUSING INTERVENTION AND

2:28:44 ONE MARKETING INTERVENTION.

2:28:45 AND THEN BEFORE UM, CONSIDERS

2:28:48 THOSE UH, INTERVENTIONS UH, AND

2:28:50 JUST ONE KEY METRIC UH, IN

2:28:53 TERMS OF PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN

2:28:54 MADE IS UH IMMEDIATELY BEFORE

2:28:57 THIS WAS.

2:28:57 IMPLEMENTED.

2:28:58 UM INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS

2:29:01 FOR UM 60% MI AND BELOW UH WAS

2:29:06 AT 4.8% UM IN UH FOR THOSE UH

2:29:10 THAT SORT OF 5 OR 6 YEAR SPAN

2:29:12 AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT

2:29:13 COMPARABLE SPAN IT'S UH RISEN

2:29:17 TO 18.9%.

2:29:20 UM THE SECOND PIECE.

2:29:21 IS THE CITY'S.

2:29:22 UH ANTI DISPLACEMENT PLAN.

2:29:24 SO THIS IS UM A UH AN EXAMPLE

2:29:28 OF HOW HAVING UM THE OFFICE

2:29:30 OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY

2:29:32 BEING UM VIEWED NOT JUST AS UH

2:29:36 AN ENFORCEMENT AGENCY BUT AS A

2:29:38 PROACTIVE AGENCY THAT.

2:29:39 DOES THE POLICY WORK.

2:29:41 UM, IS KEY UM, EARLY ON, UM,

2:29:45 THE UH THE OFFICE AND THE UH

2:29:48 PLANNING ADVISORY COUNCIL, UH,

2:29:50 WORK TOGETHER TO UM, SORT

2:29:52 OF DEVELOP THE PLAN AND AS A

2:29:54 RESULT, UH, FAIR HOUSING

2:29:55 PRINCIPLES ARE FULLY INTEGRATED

2:29:56 INTO THE PLAN AND UM, THERE ARE

2:29:59 MORE THAN 25 REFERENCES UH, TO

2:30:02 FAIR HOUSING, UH, EMBEDDED INTO

2:30:03 THE PLAN AND THAT DIRECTLY

2:30:05 LINKS UM, THINGS LIKE THE

2:30:07 DISPLACEMENT RISK MAP, UM, TO

2:30:10 THE UH ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

2:30:12 HOUSING ACTION ITEMS.

2:30:15 UM.

2:30:16 SO UH, WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO

2:30:18 THANK YOU ALL FOR UH FOR YOUR

2:30:19 TIME AND, UM.

2:30:21 UM, WE'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.

2:30:23 THANK YOU.

2:30:24 UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT

2:30:25 AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK

2:30:26 YOU DO.

2:30:28 QUITE HONESTLY THAT IS A LOT

2:30:29 OF WORK AND VERY GRATEFUL THAT

2:30:32 THIS OFFICE EXISTS.

2:30:33 UM, OKAY.

2:30:35 SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO

2:30:37 MOVE TO QUESTIONS FROM MY

2:30:38 COLLEAGUES.

2:30:38 I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM EACH

2:30:40 FIVE MINUTES AND THEN IF THEY

2:30:41 HAVE FOLLOW UP I'LL GIVE EXTRA

2:30:43 TIME AS WELL.

2:30:44 AND YEAH SO STARTING WITH

2:30:46 SPONSOR COUNCILOR WORRELL.

2:30:48 THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU

2:30:50 FOR.

2:30:50 BEING HERE AND ALL THE WORK

2:30:51 THAT YOU DO AROUND FAIR

2:30:52 HOUSING.

2:30:52 UM A FEW QUESTIONS AND I KNOW

2:30:54 I'M UH IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE

2:30:56 QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL CULPEPER

2:30:57 IS GOING TO ASK, BUT I'M GONNA

2:30:58 GO AHEAD AND STEAL IT.

2:30:59 UH, RIGHT NOW THE OFFICE

2:31:01 DOESN'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE

2:31:02 DIRECTOR.

2:31:02 CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE

2:31:04 STATUS OF BRINGING SOMEONE ON?

2:31:08 UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE CLOSE

2:31:10 TO HAVING AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

2:31:12 ,UM, BEFORE THE END OF THE

2:31:13 YEAR.

2:31:14 UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND,

2:31:15 UM, WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.

2:31:17 AWESOME.

2:31:18 AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER

2:31:21 POSITIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY

2:31:22 ADVOCATES UH, COMMUNITY PANEL

2:31:24 HAS, UM, UH, ELEVATED WAS THE

2:31:26 EDUCATION AND OUTREACH

2:31:28 COORDINATOR OF PUBLIC POLICY

2:31:29 AND SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER

2:31:31 TEAM.

2:31:31 AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S

2:31:33 OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE AND

2:31:34 FINANCE STAFF.

2:31:36 IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A FEW

2:31:37 OPEN POSITIONS INSIDE OF THE

2:31:38 FAIR HOUSING.

2:31:39 CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE

2:31:40 STATUS OF EACH OF THOSE

2:31:41 POSITIONS?

2:31:42 SURE.

2:31:43 UM, SO UH, THE UH, OUTREACH

2:31:46 AND EDUCATION ROLE IS VACANT.

2:31:48 UM, I'LL I'LL PASS IT TO DUANE

2:31:49 AFTER I GO THROUGH THE OTHER

2:31:51 ROLES TO UH TO YOU KNOW, GO

2:31:53 OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT

2:31:54 HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH IT AS WE

2:31:55 SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED, UM, IN THE

2:31:57 PRESENTATION, UM, THE PUBLIC

2:31:59 POLICY AND SPECIAL PROJECTS

2:32:01 MANAGER ROLE UH, WAS RECENTLY

2:32:03 VACATED.

2:32:04 UM, SO WE ARE UH, EXPLORING UM,

2:32:07 SORT OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND

2:32:09 HOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

2:32:11 POSITION THAT ROLE PROPERLY, UM

2:32:13 ,SO THAT IT DOESN'T SORT

2:32:15 OF STAND ALONE BY ITSELF.

2:32:17 UM, AND HAS THE ADEQUATE

2:32:18 SUPPORTS.

2:32:18 IT NEEDS TO GET IT TO.

2:32:20 WORK DONE.

2:32:21 UM, AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND

2:32:23 FINANCE UH, ROLE UM.

2:32:27 UH I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO

2:32:28 CHARACTERIZING IT IS THE UH THE

2:32:31 ADMINISTRATION FINANCE

2:32:32 FUNCTIONS OF THE INDIVIDUAL

2:32:34 DEPARTMENTS IN EQUITY AND

2:32:35 INCLUSION WHICH ARE ALL, YOU

2:32:36 KNOW, BY CITY STANDARDS

2:32:38 RELATIVELY SMALL DEPARTMENTS.

2:32:39 UH, HAVE BEEN CENTRALIZED.

2:32:41 UM, UH UH WITHIN THE OFFICE

2:32:44 OF EQUITY.

2:32:44 SO UNDER THE CABINET THERE IS

2:32:46 NOW UH A 4.

2:32:50 OR.

2:32:51 5 PERSON UM ADMINISTRATION AND

2:32:52 FINANCE TEAM.

2:32:53 AND SO UH, DUANE ALLUDED TO

2:32:54 THAT OF HOW TWO MEMBERS OF THAT

2:32:56 TEAM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED UM,

2:32:58 THE OFFICE'S WORK IN

2:33:01 ACCOMPLISHING UH MAJOR.

2:33:01 PROJECT UH, BUT DOING OUR

2:33:04 CAPACITY TO SPEAK UP.

2:33:04 THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY FOR THE.

2:33:07 THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION

2:33:08 PIECE.

2:33:09 UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHEN

2:33:11 THAT.

2:33:11 POSITION IS GOING TO BE FILLED.

2:33:13 WE HAVE REVIEWED UM.

2:33:16 THE JOB.

2:33:17 DESCRIPTION AGAIN TO MAKE.

2:33:17 SURE THAT UH, IT FITS THE ROLE

2:33:19 THAT WE WE'D LIKE IT TO FIT.

2:33:22 UM, RIGHT NOW I'M TAKING OVER.

2:33:23 THOSE THOSE THOSE

2:33:25 RESPONSIBILITIES WITH

2:33:26 ASSISTANCE.

2:33:26 FROM MY STAFF.

2:33:27 I'VE GOT FOUR INVESTIGATORS ONE

2:33:29 INTAKE SPECIALIST UM, WHICH ARE

2:33:32 ALL DOING, YOU.

2:33:33 KNOW, AND NOW A DIRECTOR OF.

2:33:34 INVESTIGATIONS WHICH IS.

2:33:36 UM AND THEY'RE ALL DOING

2:33:37 THEY'RE ALL DOING A FABULOUS

2:33:38 JOB PHENOMENAL JOB WITH.

2:33:40 UM HELPING RESIDENTS UM, FILE

2:33:42 COMPLAINTS AND.

2:33:43 SORT OF WALK THROUGH

2:33:44 WHATEVER THE HOUSING.

2:33:44 ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING.

2:33:46 UM.

2:33:49 GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION AND

2:33:50 ANOTHER TIME.

2:33:50 ABOUT THE OUTREACH PIECE BUT

2:33:52 BUT IT'S A PIECE THAT WE.

2:33:55 UM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON UM,

2:33:57 BUT NOT QUITE SURE WHEN.

2:33:58 THAT WHEN THAT.

2:33:59 POSITION IS GOING TO GET

2:33:59 FILLED.

2:34:00 HOW MANY VACANT POSITIONS DO WE

2:34:01 HAVE IN THE.

2:34:02 DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN

2:34:04 EXECUTIVE.

2:34:05 DIRECTOR, THE PROGRAM MANAGER.

2:34:07 FOR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION

2:34:08 AND THESE SPECIAL UM SPECIAL

2:34:11 PROJECTS.

2:34:12 UM POLICY MANAGER WHICH USED TO

2:34:14 BE JOYCE.

2:34:15 SYLVIA GONZALEZ.

2:34:16 SO ONLY THREE VACANT POSITIONS

2:34:17 HISTORY.

2:34:18 ALL RIGHT.

2:34:18 AND THEN ONE ON ONE WAS VERY

2:34:19 RECENTLY VACANT.

2:34:20 YEAH AWESOME.

2:34:21 AND THEN.

2:34:21 TWO OUT OF THE THREE JOBS HAVE

2:34:23 BEEN POSTED AND IT SEEMS LIKE

2:34:25 ONE OUT OF THREE WE'RE KIND

2:34:26 OF NEARING FINALIZING WHO'S

2:34:28 COMING IN.

2:34:30 YEAH THE.

2:34:31 AS I MENTIONED UM.

2:34:33 WE'RE VERY.

2:34:34 VERY CLOSE.

2:34:34 WITH UM WITH THE EDDIE.

2:34:36 UM I DON'T I DON'T RECALL THE

2:34:39 OUTREACH PROGRAM.

2:34:41 MANAGER FOR OUTREACH AND

2:34:42 EDUCATION.

2:34:42 WE MEAN BEING.

2:34:42 POSTED IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE

2:34:44 WORKING ON INTERNALLY.

2:34:44 OKAY.

2:34:46 UM AND THEN AND THEN UM.

2:34:48 JOYCE'S POSITION THE POLICY.

2:34:51 UM, THE.

2:34:52 POLICY PERSON IS JUST VACATED

2:34:53 ABOUT.

2:34:54 A MONTH.

2:34:54 YOU HAVE TO GO TWO.

2:34:55 MONTHS AGO.

2:34:56 YEAH.

2:34:56 ALL RIGHT.

2:34:57 AND THEN I WAS JUST TAKING A

2:34:57 LOOK AT THE FAIR HOUSING, UH,

2:34:59 WEBSITE AROUND.

2:35:01 COMMISSION MEMBERS.

2:35:02 YEAH.

2:35:02 AND I SEE THAT THERE'S ONE

2:35:04 VACANT POSITION.

2:35:05 UM, ANY REASON WHY THAT

2:35:08 POSITION IS VACANT?

2:35:09 I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE

2:35:10 FIVE.

2:35:10 WE HAVE FOUR.

2:35:13 YEAH.

2:35:14 THE THE.

2:35:15 ANOTHER AREA OF IMPROVEMENT IS

2:35:17 SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE

2:35:17 WORKING ON AS WELL.

2:35:18 WE WE WE CONSTANTLY HAVE WHERE

2:35:21 WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT

2:35:23 IDENTIFYING A NEW COMMISSIONER.

2:35:25 THERE ARE SOME UM.

2:35:28 UH NOT.

2:35:29 CONSTRAINTS BUT THERE ARE SOME.

2:35:30 REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT

2:35:32 ELIGIBILITY ELIGIBILITY

2:35:33 REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FOR THAT

2:35:34 SLOT.

2:35:35 UM IT HASN'T BEEN PRIORITIZED

2:35:37 LIKE.

2:35:38 I'D LIKE IT TO BE BUT.

2:35:39 BUT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE.

2:35:40 ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED ABOUT.

2:35:42 MAKING SURE.

2:35:43 THAT WE.

2:35:44 HAVE THIS FIFTH.

2:35:45 COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE THAT

2:35:46 WE HAVE QUORUMS.

2:35:47 AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

2:35:48 SO SO SO SO IT'S ON.

2:35:50 THE LIST BUT WE JUST.

2:35:50 HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T BEND IT OUT

2:35:51 YET.

2:35:51 RIGHT.

2:35:52 AND AND JUST FOR UM

2:35:55 TRANSPARENCY THAT COMMISSION

2:35:56 MEMBER IS A SUPPOSED TO BE A

2:35:58 TENANT CORRECT.

2:36:00 LIKE THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT

2:36:01 COMMISSION SEAT IS SUPPOSED TO

2:36:03 BE A RENTER.

2:36:04 IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEONE

2:36:05 THAT IS INCOME ELIGIBLE.

2:36:07 TO LIVE IN.

2:36:08 IN IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.

2:36:09 GOT IT.

2:36:10 AND WITHOUT THAT

2:36:11 REPRESENTATION WE'RE KIND

2:36:12 OF MISSING THAT VOICE AT THE

2:36:14 COMMISSION.

2:36:15 UM CORRECT US.

2:36:16 ALL RIGHT.

2:36:17 WELL WELL WE'D LOVE TO YOU

2:36:19 KNOW, PUT THAT AS A PRIORITY AS

2:36:21 WELL.

2:36:21 AND ON TOP OF THE OTHER

2:36:22 POSITIONS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT

2:36:23 WE DO HAVE THOSE COMMISSION

2:36:25 SEATS AND THAT WE HAVE A FULLY

2:36:27 REPRESENTED COMMISSION.

2:36:30 UM I KNOW THAT'S MY TIME.

2:36:32 THANK YOU.

2:36:33 WELCOME.

2:36:35 UH.

2:36:36 COUNCILOR COPE UP.

2:36:37 AH, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

2:36:38 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR ONCE AGAIN

2:36:39 FOR CONDUCTING THIS HEARING AND

2:36:43 THANK THE ADMINISTRATION.

2:36:46 UH.

2:36:47 LEADERS WHO HAVE COME TO.

2:36:51 AND LIKE.

2:36:52 NOTHING I THANK THE PUBLIC GOT

2:36:54 A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FAIR

2:36:57 HOUSING DIRECTOR.

2:36:58 TELL ME WHAT CLOSE MEANS

2:37:00 BECAUSE THIS SUMMER THEY WERE

2:37:02 CLOSED.

2:37:02 THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE A

2:37:04 DIRECTOR.

2:37:05 BY.

2:37:05 THE END OF.

2:37:06 THE SUMMER.

2:37:06 UH, WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER NOW AND

2:37:09 YOU'RE TELLING ME CLOSE.

2:37:10 BUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR WHAT

2:37:13 IS CLOSE TO ME?

2:37:13 HOW CLOSE ARE WE INTERVIEWING?

2:37:18 UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT

2:37:20 WHAT I AM PERMITTED TO SAY

2:37:22 RELATED TO A PERSONNEL MATTER.

2:37:24 UM, WELL, THAT IS NOT A

2:37:26 PERSONNEL MATTER YET, BUT ARE

2:37:28 WE INTERVIEWING?

2:37:31 IS THAT WE HAVE.

2:37:32 COMPLETED INTERVIEWS.

2:37:34 OKAY.

2:37:35 AND SO YOU THINK BY DECEMBER

2:37:38 WE WILL HAVE.

2:37:38 SOMEONE IN THAT SLOT?

2:37:41 YES.

2:37:42 OKAY.

2:37:44 I WANT TO GO, UH, LOOK AT THE

2:37:48 14 GOALS AND 108 ACTS HIMSELF.

2:37:50 SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE LEVELS, UH,

2:37:54 OF ASSESSMENT, INFANCY PLANNING

2:37:56 .

2:37:57 UM.

2:38:00 PILOTING.

2:38:02 SUSTAINING AND EVALUATION.

2:38:04 UM, EVALUATING I WOULD SAY SO

2:38:07 IT'S IT'S NOT THAT IT'S IT'S

2:38:08 THAT MEANS EVALUATION WOULD

2:38:09 MEAN THAT THE THE THE PILOT'S

2:38:11 BEEN COMPLETED UH PERHAPS UH

2:38:13 THE UH THE POLICY OR PROGRAM IS

2:38:16 IN EFFECT BUT WE, UH, WANT TO

2:38:19 MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IMPACTFUL

2:38:22 OR EFFECTIVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU

2:38:24 DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT.

2:38:25 48% WHERE AT THE SUSTAINING

2:38:26 LEVEL, CORRECT?

2:38:28 YEAH.

2:38:28 WHAT 49% YEAH.

2:38:29 WHAT'S THE DEFINITION

2:38:30 OF SUSTAINING UNDER THESE

2:38:33 CATEGORIES.

2:38:34 SO THE DEFINITION OF SUSTAINING

2:38:36 UH WOULD BE THAT THE UH

2:38:38 SOLUTION IS UH BEING ENACTED

2:38:41 CONTINUOUSLY THAT UM SORT OF IT

2:38:45 HAS EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO BE A

2:38:46 FULLY FLEDGED UH PROGRAM OR

2:38:49 SERVICE.

2:38:49 OR POLICY.

2:38:50 UH, AND THAT WE HAVE UH

2:38:53 EVALUATED UM, SORT.

2:38:54 OF WHETHER IT IT'S WHETHER.

2:38:56 IT'S IT WAS PILOTED OR OR WAS

2:38:58 ALREADY LAUNCHED AS A PERMANENT

2:39:00 PROGRAM.

2:39:01 UM, WE'VE COMPLETED SORT

2:39:03 OF INITIAL UH EVALUATION TO TO

2:39:06 .

2:39:07 SORT OF.

2:39:07 IT'S SORT OF LIKE A WHAT.

2:39:08 MANY WOULD CALL DONE BUT WE

2:39:09 JUST DON'T WANT TO CALL IT

2:39:10 DONE.

2:39:10 I GOT.

2:39:11 LIMITED TIME SO YES SIR.

2:39:12 SO LET'S GO TO GOAL ONE UH

2:39:15 INCREASING HOUSING ACCESS FOR

2:39:15 PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY AND

2:39:17 OLDER ADULTS.

2:39:18 HOW MANY OLDER ADULTS DID YOU

2:39:21 INCREASE HOUSING FOR OR HOW

2:39:23 MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?

2:39:27 I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER

2:39:28 TO THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN.

2:39:30 CAN YOU.

2:39:31 GET THE ANSWER?

2:39:33 I CAN TRY BUT THERE MAY BE

2:39:34 CONFOUNDING VARIABLES.

2:39:35 BUT YES.

2:39:36 LET'S LET'S TRY AND GET THE

2:39:37 ANSWER OKAY.

2:39:39 UH HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU ACTUALLY

2:39:40 HELP WITH HOUSING WHO HAVE

2:39:44 DISABILITIES AND WHO ARE OLDER

2:39:47 ADULTS?

2:39:49 HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HELPED?

2:39:52 YES I.

2:39:52 CAN GET YOU I CAN GET YOU.

2:39:53 WITH ACCESS TO HOUSING.

2:39:55 YES.

2:39:56 YES GOT HOUSING ACCESS THAT

2:39:59 DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE THEY CAME

2:40:01 TO YOU.

2:40:01 LET'S GO TO NUMBER TWO.

2:40:03 UM, REDUCE AND PREVENT

2:40:06 HOMELESSNESS.

2:40:06 HOW MANY FOLKS DID YOU HELP

2:40:09 WITH HELP FIND HOMES AND

2:40:13 PREVENTED HOMELESSNESS?

2:40:15 I'D HAVE TO I'D HAVE TO LOOK.

2:40:16 INTO YOU.

2:40:17 CAN YOU GET THAT FOR US?

2:40:18 YES, SURE.

2:40:18 OKAY.

2:40:19 AND WHAT ABOUT GOAL NUMBER

2:40:20 THREE?

2:40:22 YOU DIDN'T MENTION GOAL NUMBER

2:40:23 THREE YOU SKIPPED OVER GOAL

2:40:24 NUMBER THREE.

2:40:25 THAT'S BUILD AND STRENGTHEN

2:40:27 REASONABLE STRATEGIES TO CREATE

2:40:29 HOUSING AND FURTHER FAIR

2:40:30 HOUSING.

2:40:32 WHAT'S THE STATUS OF GOAL

2:40:33 NUMBER THREE?

2:40:34 YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT I THINK

2:40:36 YOU SKIPPED OVER.

2:40:38 SURE.

2:40:39 SO THE THE WAY WE TRACK THE

2:40:41 WORK IS UH.

2:40:41 WHAT'S THE STATUS OF IT THOUGH

2:40:44 YOU GAVE US STATUS ON THESE

2:40:46 OTHERS WHAT'S THE STATUS

2:40:47 OF GOAL NUMBER THREE?

2:40:49 SO LIKE AS I WAS ABOUT TO SAY

2:40:51 THE WAY WE TRACK IT IS ABIDE BY

2:40:52 STATUS FOR THE ACTUAL

2:40:54 INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS.

2:40:56 ALL RIGHT.

2:40:56 RIGHT AS AS IS DIVIDED TO

2:40:58 THE REPORTING AGENCIES.

2:41:00 SO IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT

2:41:02 UM I CAN SEE WHAT THEIR LATEST

2:41:04 UPDATES ARE.

2:41:06 FOR GOAL NUMBER THREE.

2:41:08 WELL CAN WE COME BACK TO GOAL

2:41:09 NUMBER THREE BECAUSE MY TIME IS

2:41:11 I DON'T WANT TO WAIT.

2:41:11 SURE.

2:41:12 LET'S GO TO GOAL NUMBER FOUR

2:41:13 EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE FOR

2:41:14 VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:41:15 HOW MANY VOUCHER HOLDERS DID

2:41:17 YOU EXPAND HOUSING CHOICE FOR

2:41:20 UNDER NUMBER FOUR.

2:41:21 I'LL HAVE.

2:41:22 TO GET YOU THAT.

2:41:22 ANSWER OKAY LET'S GO TO NUMBER

2:41:24 FIVE.

2:41:25 YOU DIDN'T MENTION NUMBER FIVE

2:41:26 BUT UNDER FIVE AND SIX I THINK

2:41:29 YOU WENT RIGHT PAST HIM FIVE IS

2:41:32 REDEVELOP AND PRESERVE EXISTING

2:41:33 PUBLIC AND INCOME RESTRICTED

2:41:35 HOUSING.

2:41:36 HOW MANY FOLKS WOULD YOU HELP

2:41:37 ON THE NUMBER FIVE.

2:41:38 I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER.

2:41:40 WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE

2:41:41 INFANCY PLANNING, PILOTING,

2:41:43 EVALUATING AND SUSTAINING?

2:41:46 SO AS I SAID WE BREAK THEM UP

2:41:48 INTO INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS SO

2:41:49 I CAN GIVE YOU YOU KNOW I CAN I

2:41:51 CAN TELL YOU EACH INDIVIDUAL

2:41:52 ACTION ITEM UM SO SO FOR

2:41:55 EXAMPLE 5.15.2 IS SUSTAINING

2:41:57 5.1 IS SUSTAINING 5.3

2:42:00 OF SUSTAINING.

2:42:00 SO FOR CANNING COUNTY.

2:42:03 COUNCIL THIS COULD BE OKAY.

2:42:04 THE LAST QUESTION FOR THIS

2:42:06 ROUND OKAY LET ME JUST GO TO

2:42:07 SEVEN REAL QUICK.

2:42:08 YES USING ZONING AND FAIR

2:42:10 HOUSING TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE

2:42:11 OF HOW YOU USE ZONING AS A FAIR

2:42:14 HOUSING TO UNDER NUMBER SEVEN.

2:42:18 SO UM.

2:42:21 MY MY ROLE.

2:42:22 IS TO GET THE.

2:42:23 REPORTS BUT CAN.

2:42:24 YOU GIVE ME THE EXAMPLE AN

2:42:26 EXAMPLE OR NOT IF YOU CAN'T IS

2:42:28 THAT.

2:42:28 THAT THAT THERE IS A.

2:42:30 FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENT THAT

2:42:31 WAS.

2:42:32 UH INCORPORATED.

2:42:33 TO THE CITY'S ZONING CODE?

2:42:34 WHAT WAS THAT?

2:42:35 THAT WAS THE UH FHA ZONING THAT

2:42:39 SORT OF SET.

2:42:39 UP THE TICK THE BOX NUMBER.

2:42:41 ONE COUNCILOR CULPEPER IF WE

2:42:43 COULD HAVE A WAIVER QUESTION

2:42:44 FOR THE NEXT ROUND, COME BACK

2:42:45 THEN COME BACK.

2:42:46 THANK YOU.

2:42:47 I DON'T WANT TO DISRESPECT OH,

2:42:49 I KNOW WE JUST HAVE WE HAVE

2:42:50 SOME QUESTIONS.

2:42:51 YOU GOT TO PUT COLLEGE

2:42:52 COUNCIL FROM HERE.

2:42:53 YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

2:42:56 COUNCILOR CULPEPPER THINKS HE'S

2:42:57 IN THE COURTROOM.

2:42:58 YOU'RE NOT KNOW CITY

2:42:59 COUNCIL NOW ACT LIKE ONE.

2:43:02 ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL

2:43:03 RIGHT.

2:43:03 OKAY.

2:43:04 LISTEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:43:06 I HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE

2:43:08 TO KNOW SINCE 2022, UH, THE

2:43:11 MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.

2:43:12 UM, ON ESTABLISHING THIS, I

2:43:14 WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE

2:43:15 BUDGET REFLECTS THE CITY'S

2:43:17 COMMITMENT TO THAT TO THESE

2:43:19 DELIVERABLES.

2:43:19 LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE

2:43:22 IN THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT

2:43:24 TO HELP SUPPORT THE GOALS AND

2:43:26 OBJECTIVES?

2:43:26 I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON

2:43:28 THAT.

2:43:28 OKAY.

2:43:28 SO I THINK IT'S REALLY

2:43:29 IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS

2:43:31 A VALUE STATEMENT AND IF WE'RE

2:43:32 SAYING THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO

2:43:33 THIS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE NOT

2:43:35 JUST SOMETHING IN PAPER I LIKE

2:43:36 TO SEE WHAT THE MONEY LOOKS

2:43:38 LIKE.

2:43:40 UM TO FULFILL THESE

2:43:41 DELIVERABLES.

2:43:42 UH I JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR THE

2:43:43 RECORD THAT THE CITY'S ALSO A

2:43:44 LANDLORD.

2:43:45 YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF VHA

2:43:46 PROPERTIES.

2:43:47 I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR

2:43:49 FROM YOU WHAT ROLE THE CITY IS

2:43:51 PLAYING, IF ANY, ESPECIALLY

2:43:53 WHEN WE'RE SETTING THE MARKET

2:43:54 RENT WHEN WE GIVE A VOUCHER

2:43:56 HOLDER $3,000 FOR A VOUCHER.

2:44:00 WHAT LIKE I'M JUST CURIOUS

2:44:02 ABOUT WHAT ROLE ARE WE PLAYING

2:44:05 IN MAKING THIS CITY LESS

2:44:07 AFFORDABLE WHEN OTHER SMALLER

2:44:09 LANDLORDS THEN HAVE TO COMPETE

2:44:11 WITH UH WITH YOUR VHA VOUCHER

2:44:15 THRESHOLD?

2:44:16 UM, AND I NOTICED IN YOUR

2:44:18 POWERPOINT YOU HAD A LOT

2:44:19 OF WHYS AND ACTIONS BUT WHAT I

2:44:20 DIDN'T SEE WERE OUTCOMES WHICH

2:44:22 IS THE LINE OF QUESTIONS THAT

2:44:24 COUNCIL CULPEPER WAS ASKING.

2:44:26 I'M CURIOUS WERE YOU WEARING

2:44:27 YOUR PRESENTATION?

2:44:28 ARE THE ACTUAL DELIVERABLES NOT

2:44:31 JUST THE ASPIRATIONAL KIND

2:44:32 OF LIKE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING

2:44:33 TO DO.

2:44:34 I LIKE TO LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT

2:44:35 MORE ON ANY DATA THAT YOU HAVE

2:44:38 TO SHARE, UM, SMALL LANDLORDS

2:44:41 AND UM AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS

2:44:43 LIKE WHITE STADIUM.

2:44:44 I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY

2:44:45 STADIUM BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S

2:44:46 NOT A GOOD HEARING WITHOUT

2:44:47 ME TALKING ABOUT WHITE STADIUM.

2:44:49 THESE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS

2:44:50 THAT, UH, WILL DISPLACE BOSTON

2:44:54 RESIDENTS AND ALSO CREATE

2:44:56 FURTHER FINANCIAL HARDSHIP FOR

2:44:58 SMALLER LANDLORDS WHO THEN HAVE

2:44:59 TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES.

2:45:01 IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING

2:45:02 PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY

2:45:03 OF BOSTON, I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW

2:45:05 YOU ARE LOOKING AT ANTI

2:45:08 DISPLACEMENT WHEN WE'RE

2:45:09 THINKING ABOUT BIG PROJECTS

2:45:10 LIKE THAT THAT WILL HAVE AN

2:45:11 UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE ON

2:45:13 LANDLORDS AND RESIDENTS.

2:45:15 SO JUST.

2:45:15 IF YOU COULD.

2:45:16 TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT AND

2:45:18 THEN CENSUS TRACKING YOU KNOW

2:45:22 WE I'VE HEARD AND I HAVE SEEN

2:45:24 THAT SINCE COVID WE'VE LOST A

2:45:26 BIG CHUNK OF BLACK AND BROWN

2:45:28 FOLKS TO THEY HAVE LEFT THE

2:45:30 CITY OF BOSTON AND WE KEEP

2:45:32 TALKING ABOUT KEEPING RESIDENTS

2:45:33 HERE.

2:45:34 I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU

2:45:35 KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE

2:45:37 HAVE DISPLACED?

2:45:38 UM, ARE YOU TRACKING ANY OF THE

2:45:40 FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED

2:45:43 UM OR HAVE BEEN UH,

2:45:45 DISCRIMINATED AGAINST SO

2:45:46 COULDN'T FIND A PLACE TO GO SO

2:45:48 THEY JUST UP AND LEFT UM AND

2:45:50 WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A

2:45:52 WHAT ARE WE DOING?

2:45:54 UM, TO REPAIR THAT HARM WE

2:45:56 FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN.

2:45:57 UM.

2:45:58 DISPLACED AND OR

2:46:00 DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THAT'S A

2:46:02 LOT.

2:46:03 AND YOU COULD TAKE IT IN THE

2:46:06 ORDER IN WHICH YOU FEEL MOST

2:46:07 COMFORTABLE IN LEANING INTO.

2:46:10 SURE.

2:46:11 SO UM.

2:46:13 I SUPPOSE.

2:46:13 I DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB

2:46:15 OF UM, CLARIFYING MY ROLE AND

2:46:17 UH AND DWAYNE'S.

2:46:19 OFFICE IS SORT OF DUAL ROLE IN

2:46:20 THIS SO MY ROLE IS.

2:46:22 TO GET UPDATES FROM THE.

2:46:23 SEVEN CITY DEPARTMENTS AS TO

2:46:26 WHAT.

2:46:26 THEY HAVE DONE.

2:46:28 TO MEET EACH ACTION ITEM.

2:46:30 I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO A BETTER

2:46:31 JOB OF UH IT SOUNDS LIKE UM UH

2:46:34 THE COUNCIL'S IN AGREEMENT IS

2:46:36 GETTING SORT OF THE THE OUTCOME

2:46:38 DATA UH, AFTER OUR PROGRAM HAS

2:46:40 STARTED.

2:46:41 YEAH.

2:46:42 IT'S.

2:46:42 BEEN SINCE 2022.

2:46:43 SO I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE

2:46:45 FIVE AND I JUST FEEL LIKE

2:46:46 THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIOUSNESS TO

2:46:49 REALLY GET THIS.

2:46:50 WORK AND THE OUTCOMES OF THIS

2:46:52 WORK.

2:46:53 YES.

2:46:53 AND AND SO.

2:46:54 THE THE.

2:46:55 WAY MANY OF THESE.

2:46:56 THE.

2:46:56 LARGER PROGRAMS WORK IS THEY'RE

2:46:58 THEY'RE TRACKING THEIR THEIR

2:46:59 OWN OUTCOME DATA AND.

2:47:01 SO IT'S.

2:47:01 UH IT'S.

2:47:02 QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO SORT

2:47:04 OF PULL IT ALL TOGETHER.

2:47:05 UM BUT UM WE HEAR YOU ON THAT

2:47:07 AND WE'LL.

2:47:08 PULL THAT TOGETHER.

2:47:09 UM, AND SO I'M.

2:47:11 YOU KNOW.

2:47:12 I'M NOT HERE AS AN EXPERT ON

2:47:14 UH, HOW WE DO ANTI DISPLACEMENT

2:47:16 WORK.

2:47:16 UM, I FEEL.

2:47:17 LIKE THE.

2:47:18 PROGRESS REPORT SORT

2:47:19 OF OUTLINES THAT.

2:47:20 UM, FOR YEAR ONE, UM, WE, UM UH

2:47:25 UM AND THEN WE'RE ALSO.

2:47:27 PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT

2:47:29 THE CENSUS DATA HAS TO SAY

2:47:30 ABOUT THAT.

2:47:31 UM, WE ARE TRACKING THAT UM,

2:47:33 WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU

2:47:34 ON THE BUDGET PIECE.

2:47:35 UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO BUDGET.

2:47:38 FOR UH, THE OFFICE OF FAIR

2:47:40 HOUSING AND EQUITY TO.

2:47:41 TO SORT OF.

2:47:42 COORDINATE THIS WORK.

2:47:43 UM, THERE'S ALL THE BUDGETARY

2:47:45 INVESTMENTS TO ACTUALLY DO

2:47:46 THIS.

2:47:46 WORK WHICH THEN FIT UNDER, YOU

2:47:48 KNOW, ALL SEVEN.

2:47:49 DEPARTMENTS SO YOU DON'T HAVE

2:47:50 ANY BUDGET DATA, YOU DON'T KNOW

2:47:52 HOW MUCH.

2:47:52 NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.

2:47:54 OKAY.

2:47:55 I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE

2:47:56 RECORD JUST KIND OF LIKE THAT

2:47:57 IS UH TO THE CHAIR I'D LIKE TO

2:47:59 MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET

2:48:00 REFLECTS THE GOALS AND

2:48:02 ASPIRATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR

2:48:04 THE VISION THAT THE MAYOR HAS

2:48:05 PUT OUT IN 2022.

2:48:08 UM, AND THEN TALK TO ME A

2:48:10 LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE

2:48:11 DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE WHITE

2:48:12 STADIUM AND THE IMPACT THAT

2:48:15 PROPERTY TAXES WILL HAVE ON.

2:48:19 THAT THE I I'M.

2:48:22 TO TO MY.

2:48:23 MEMORY THAT DOESN'T FALL.

2:48:25 UNDER ANY OF THE 108 UM

2:48:28 ACTION ITEMS.

2:48:29 UM SO.

2:48:29 YOU KNOW FOR.

2:48:31 FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.

2:48:32 TO IT I'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO

2:48:33 LOOK.

2:48:33 IT UP.

2:48:34 UH, AS TO HOW ANY INDIVIDUAL

2:48:37 AGENCY REPORTED ON.

2:48:37 THE UH SO.

2:48:39 THE.

2:48:39 THE AND THIS IS MY LAST PIECE

2:48:42 IS THAT THERE IS A DIRECT

2:48:43 CORRELATION WITH DEVELOPMENT

2:48:45 AND PLANNING AND DISPLACEMENT

2:48:48 AND KEEPING BLACK AND BROWN

2:48:49 PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY

2:48:51 OF BOSTON.

2:48:51 AND SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE

2:48:53 THAT INFORMATION, I JUST WANT

2:48:55 TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT

2:48:56 THAT INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT

2:48:57 TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE

2:48:59 TALKING ABOUT ACCESS UM, TO

2:49:01 FAIR HOUSING AND ALSO UH,

2:49:06 DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE IN MANY

2:49:07 WAYS THOSE THINGS FOR BLACK AND

2:49:09 BROWN PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR

2:49:09 COULD FEEL DISCRIMINATORY AND

2:49:11 THAT YOU ARE CREATING AN

2:49:13 ENVIRONMENT WHICH WE ARE NOT

2:49:14 GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE

2:49:15 CITY ANYMORE.

2:49:17 SO THOSE UNINTENDED

2:49:18 CONSEQUENCES DO HAVE A ROLE IN

2:49:20 THIS CONVERSATION.

2:49:21 AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR

2:49:22 US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT THE

2:49:24 VERY LEAST.

2:49:25 AND SO MY TIME IS UP.

2:49:27 WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.

2:49:28 I THINK WE SHOULD DO A SECOND

2:49:29 HEARING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT

2:49:30 MORE THAT WE NEED TO UNPACK.

2:49:32 THANK YOU.

2:49:34 COUNCILOR.

2:49:35 UM.

2:49:36 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

2:49:37 YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

2:49:38 THANK YOU.

2:49:39 MR CHAIR.

2:49:40 THANK YOU TO THE PANEL.

2:49:41 I LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY

2:49:42 PANEL AT THE BEGINNING AND

2:49:44 LISTENED TO EVERY WORD OF THE

2:49:46 ADMINISTRATION PANEL POINT FOR

2:49:48 ME TO BE HERE TO LEARN AS MUCH

2:49:50 AS I CAN.

2:49:51 I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK AND MY

2:49:52 COUNCIL FOR BEING HERE.

2:49:54 UH, MR CHAIRMAN, I READ A

2:49:56 COUPLE QUESTIONS INTO THE

2:49:57 RECORD UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET A

2:49:59 GET SOME ANSWERS.

2:50:01 OKAY.

2:50:02 UM SO I WANT TO READ THESE

2:50:05 QUESTIONS INTO THE RECORD.

2:50:06 IF YOU COULD GET ME AN ANSWER

2:50:07 I'LL GET THEM THROUGH THE CHAIR

2:50:08 RATHER AND UM.

2:50:11 BUT HOW HOW DID THE PLANNING

2:50:13 DEPARTMENT EVALUATE THE SQUARES

2:50:15 AND STREETS ON PERSONS

2:50:17 PROTECTED BY FAIR HOUSING LAWS

2:50:19 BEFORE THE PLAN WAS SENT TO THE

2:50:21 BPA BOARD?

2:50:23 AND WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE

2:50:25 BEFORE GOING TO THE BOARD?

2:50:27 UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO

2:50:30 SUPPORT RENTERS AND SMALL

2:50:31 BUSINESSES FROM DISPLACING

2:50:34 DISPLACEMENT BEFORE REZONING

2:50:36 TOOK PLACE AND WERE WE

2:50:39 SUCCESSFUL?

2:50:42 UM THE MAYOR'S GUIDANCE CALLS

2:50:43 FOR AN ASSESSMENT OF POTENTIAL

2:50:45 ZONING IMPACT OR EFFECTS ON

2:50:47 PERSONS AND PROTECTED GROUPS

2:50:48 BEFORE ZONING GOES BEFORE THE

2:50:51 BPA BOARD BEFORE A VOTE DID

2:50:53 THAT ASSESSMENT TAKE PLACE?

2:50:56 UM.

2:51:00 MY MY QUESTION I WOULD LIKE YOU

2:51:01 TO ANSWER UM IF YOU PLEASE IS

2:51:04 ON YOUR GOAL NUMBER ONE

2:51:06 INCREASE HOUSING ASSET ACCESS

2:51:07 FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

2:51:10 OLDER ADULTS OF I REPRESENT THE

2:51:12 MOST RESIDENTS LIVING IN PUBLIC

2:51:14 HOUSING OF ANY DISTRICT CITY

2:51:16 COUNCIL AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW I

2:51:18 AM CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS FOR

2:51:20 PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN

2:51:21 PUBLIC HOUSING.

2:51:22 MOST OF THEM ARE PEOPLE

2:51:23 OF COLOR IN BAR DEVELOPMENTS

2:51:26 DUE TO FAULTY ELEVATORS.

2:51:28 ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS?

2:51:32 THAT THAT.

2:51:33 THAT UH THE ELEVATOR.

2:51:35 UH ISSUE.

2:51:35 IN PARTICULAR?

2:51:36 YES, YES.

2:51:38 WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE

2:51:40 THAT PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES

2:51:42 HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO HOUSING.

2:51:47 AT VHA BUILDINGS KNOWING THAT

2:51:49 WE HAVE, UM, A MAJOR PROBLEM ON

2:51:51 OUR HANDS WITH ELEVATOR ACCESS

2:51:53 ?

2:51:55 UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM.

2:51:58 MY ROLE.

2:51:59 IN THIS IS TO SORT OF HELP.

2:52:01 MONITOR THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR

2:52:02 HOUSING.

2:52:03 SO THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC.

2:52:04 UM, ISSUE.

2:52:06 UH, AS OPPOSED TO SORT OF A

2:52:07 PROGRAM.

2:52:07 POLICY.

2:52:08 OR SERVICE.

2:52:08 WELL.

2:52:09 I BUT.

2:52:10 THE ACTION IS STATED, UM, THAT

2:52:13 YOU WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WITH

2:52:14 DISABILITIES WHO HAVE BEEN

2:52:15 CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND

2:52:17 SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.

2:52:18 WE HELP PEOPLE WITH PERMANENT

2:52:20 HOUSING IN VHA, BUT WE HAVE TO

2:52:23 PROVIDE THEM A SAFE ENVIRONMENT

2:52:25 TO ACCESS THAT HOUSING.

2:52:28 THAT'S WHERE I'M.

2:52:31 I IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE AT?

2:52:37 UM I'M NOT SURE HOW TO.

2:52:38 ANSWER THAT.

2:52:39 IS IS THAT.

2:52:40 WHERE I'M.

2:52:40 AT AS A.

2:52:41 AS A IS THAT.

2:52:42 IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT WE

2:52:43 PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH A SAFE

2:52:45 ENVIRONMENT AND I MEANING UM,

2:52:48 ELEVATORS THAT WORK IN VHA

2:52:49 BUILDINGS IS THAT A CIVIL

2:52:50 RIGHTS ISSUE?

2:52:51 I THINK IT IS.

2:52:52 UH, THE ACCESS.

2:52:53 IS AND SAFETY IS, UH.

2:52:55 IMPORTANT TO US AS I'M SURE

2:52:56 IT'S.

2:52:57 IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE AND.

2:52:58 UH.

2:52:59 I WOULD REFER.

2:52:59 TO THE VHA.

2:53:00 AS TO THE PROGRESS THEY'RE

2:53:01 MAKING ON UM ON.

2:53:02 ADDRESSING.

2:53:03 THOSE ISSUES BUT THEY'RE NOT

2:53:03 MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.

2:53:05 I FOLLOW THAT ISSUE VERY

2:53:07 CLOSELY AND I'M MAKING GOOD

2:53:08 PROGRESS.

2:53:09 IN FACT THEY ARE THEY ARE NOT

2:53:12 MAKING PROGRESS AT ALL AND

2:53:14 RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING TO

2:53:15 ME NOT JUST NOT JUST IN MY

2:53:17 DISTRICT BUT ACROSS THE CITY

2:53:19 THAT RESIDENTS ARE HAVING A

2:53:20 VERY DIFFICULT TIME ACCESSING

2:53:23 THEIR APARTMENT IN VHA

2:53:25 DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE AN

2:53:26 ELEVATOR IS BROKEN.

2:53:28 I DO BELIEVE THAT'S A CIVIL

2:53:29 RIGHTS ISSUE BUT OTHER PEOPLE

2:53:31 MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME.

2:53:33 UM BUT IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH

2:53:35 DISABILITIES IN A WHEELCHAIR UM

2:53:38 OR AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT CAN'T

2:53:39 GET UP ON THE STAIRS UM THAT'S

2:53:43 THAT'S THAT'S A VIOLATION IN MY

2:53:45 OPINION OF THE ADA AND IF WE'RE

2:53:48 SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE

2:53:49 TALKING ABOUT TODAY AS YOU

2:53:51 MENTIONED AND AND NUMBER ONE

2:53:55 AND GOAL NUMBER ONE HOW WE

2:53:57 SUPPORT PERSONS WITH

2:53:58 DISABILITIES AND MOST MOST

2:54:00 OF THE PEOPLE MOST PEOPLE IN.

2:54:03 MOST PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES.

2:54:06 AT VHA, MANY A HIGH PERCENTAGE

2:54:08 OF THEM ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

2:54:10 THAT'S WHY I DO THINK THIS IS A

2:54:12 CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE.

2:54:13 I DO THINK IT'S ALSO ABOUT

2:54:16 RESPECTING RESPECTING OUR

2:54:19 SENIORS.

2:54:19 IT'S ABOUT RESPECTING PERSONS

2:54:21 WITH DISABILITIES.

2:54:24 KNOWING WHAT MY OPINION IS WHAT

2:54:25 ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

2:54:30 UM WELL.

2:54:31 I, I WILL UM GO.

2:54:32 BACK AND SPEAK TO MY

2:54:33 COLLEAGUES.

2:54:34 AT VHA.

2:54:34 I'LL SPEAK.

2:54:35 TO OUR COLLEAGUES AT UH THE

2:54:36 DISABILITIES.

2:54:36 COMMISSION AS WELL.

2:54:38 UM, AND WE'LL UH WE'LL GET.

2:54:40 AN UPDATE.

2:54:41 AND YOU'LL GET ME AN UPDATE ON

2:54:43 THE BAR ELEVATOR SYSTEM

2:54:46 THROUGHOUT AND GIVE ME AN

2:54:48 UPDATE.

2:54:49 I CAN.

2:54:49 DO THAT.

2:54:50 THAT'D BE EXCELLENT.

2:54:51 THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING

2:54:52 FOR FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME

2:54:53 AND IT'S BEEN STALLED BY YOU,

2:54:55 SIR.

2:54:57 BECAUSE YOU'RE.

2:54:59 MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU'RE SO

2:55:01 PASSIONATE.

2:55:01 ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.

2:55:04 UM, YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT

2:55:05 FILING A COMPLAINT.

2:55:07 WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT.

2:55:08 FILING COMPLAINT WITH OUR

2:55:09 OFFICE.

2:55:10 UM, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE, UH

2:55:13 ,YOU KNOW, AGAINST.

2:55:15 YOU SHOULD FILE A COMPLAINT AS

2:55:17 ANYONE CAN FILE A COMPLAINT.

2:55:18 YOU CAN FILE A COMPLAINT ON

2:55:19 BEHALF OF THE.

2:55:21 CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU'RE

2:55:22 TALKING ABOUT.

2:55:23 YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WE.

2:55:24 WE WE.

2:55:25 YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO

2:55:26 TALK.

2:55:26 ABOUT IT BUT YOU.

2:55:27 YOU KNOW.

2:55:28 YOU NEED TO GET A CITIZEN.

2:55:30 SO SO.

2:55:31 UH.

2:55:32 IF I'M HEARING YOU

2:55:33 CORRECTLY, IT MAY NOT BE ON THE

2:55:35 SURFACE.

2:55:35 IT MAY NOT BE A VIOLATION.

2:55:37 OF OF.

2:55:38 UH.

2:55:39 FHA UM BUT IF THERE'S A PATTERN

2:55:40 THEN MAYBE.

2:55:41 WE CAN.

2:55:42 FILE A COMMISSION BASED

2:55:43 COMPLAINT OR AT LEAST HAVE SOME

2:55:44 MORE CONVERSATIONS.

2:55:46 WITH WITH UH.

2:55:48 WITH THE VHA ABOUT.

2:55:51 UM WHAT.

2:55:52 ABOUT THE MISMANAGEMENT

2:55:53 OF THESE.

2:55:54 BUILDINGS IF.

2:55:54 THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO

2:55:55 CATEGORIZE IT.

2:55:56 BUT I WOULD.

2:55:57 UH I.

2:55:58 WOULD FILE A COMPLAINT.

2:56:00 DWANE THAT'S THE BEST ADVICE

2:56:02 I'VE HEARD IN SEVERAL YEARS

2:56:04 I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS I

2:56:05 WANT TO SAY THANK YOU I HAVEN'T

2:56:07 FILED A COMPLAINT WITH FAIR

2:56:08 HOUSING I'VE FILED A COMPLAINT

2:56:10 WITH THE BAR THEMSELVES UH

2:56:12 FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE

2:56:14 STATE UM WHICH IS THEY OVERSEE

2:56:17 THE ELEVATOR INSPECTIONS,

2:56:20 MAINTENANCE OF ELEVATORS,

2:56:21 ARCHITECTURAL ACCESS BOARD.

2:56:23 IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED UM, I

2:56:25 FILED THE COMPLAINT WITH THEM.

2:56:26 I ALSO FILED A COMPLAINT WITH

2:56:27 THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.

2:56:28 BUT RESPECT WHAT YOU JUST

2:56:31 ADVOCATED FOR OR RECOMMENDED, I

2:56:33 SHOULD SAY.

2:56:34 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

2:56:35 IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE

2:56:36 I'VE RECEIVED IN YEARS AND JUST

2:56:39 WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR

2:56:41 HAVING THE COURAGE TO TO SPEAK

2:56:43 OUT ABOUT THAT.

2:56:44 AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING?

2:56:46 UM, THAT'S HOW BOB WAS AT FAIR

2:56:48 HOUSE AND HE WOULD TELL YOU HE

2:56:50 WOULD RECOMMEND THINGS TO YOU

2:56:52 TO DO UM, EVEN IF IT WAS

2:56:55 SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL.

2:56:57 THAT'S WHAT I REALLY RESPECTED

2:56:58 ABOUT HIM AND FAIR HOUSING IS

2:56:59 HE HE GAVE YOU THE STRAIGHT

2:57:01 INFORMATION AND HE WAS HE WAS

2:57:03 DIRECT AND HE WAS HONEST AND HE

2:57:04 WAS SINCERE AND I JUST I WANT

2:57:06 TO SAY THANK YOU.

2:57:07 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU

2:57:08 OKAY.

2:57:08 WELCOME.

2:57:09 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

2:57:10 THANK YOU.

2:57:11 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

2:57:12 COUNCILOR WEBER, YOU HAVE FIVE

2:57:13 MINUTES.

2:57:16 OKAY.

2:57:17 THANK YOU.

2:57:17 UH.

2:57:18 FOLLOWING UP OF.

2:57:19 THE ON THE END OF THAT OF BOB

2:57:20 TERRELL SAT RIGHT THERE AND HE

2:57:22 TALKED TO US.

2:57:23 ABOUT.

2:57:23 UH, FAIR HOUSING.

2:57:25 TESTERS AND.

2:57:26 HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS.

2:57:26 AND WE HEARD ABOUT THE.

2:57:27 SUFFOLK.

2:57:28 UH, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATION

2:57:30 WHICH FOUND.

2:57:32 LANDLORDS.

2:57:32 YOU KNOW.

2:57:33 PUTTING IN WRITING I DON'T RENT

2:57:35 TO SECTION.

2:57:35 EIGHT VOUCHER HOLDERS.

2:57:38 UH UM AND SO UH I GUESS SO

2:57:41 WHAT'S THE.

2:57:42 STATUS OF FAIR.

2:57:42 HOUSING TESTING NOW?

2:57:44 UM AND THEN.

2:57:46 WE ALSO I KNOW IN THE BUDGET

2:57:48 PROCESS WE DID PUT IN $100,000

2:57:50 .

2:57:51 FOR A.

2:57:51 FAIR FAIR HOUSING TESTING

2:57:52 PROGRAM.

2:57:53 WE WANT TO THANK YOU KNOW MY

2:57:54 COLLEAGUES I KNOW.

2:57:55 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE COUNCILOR.

2:57:56 CULPEPPER AND MY OTHER.

2:57:58 COLLEAGUES SUPPORTED THAT.

2:57:59 BUT.

2:57:59 UH, CAN.

2:58:00 WE GET AN UPDATE ON ON THAT

2:58:02 ?

2:58:03 YES.

2:58:03 UM, WE'RE ALMOST DONE

2:58:04 FINALIZING THE RFP.

2:58:06 UM, WE ACTUALLY.

2:58:07 UH, SPOKE TO ONE OF THE

2:58:09 RESEARCHERS.

2:58:10 ,UM, LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK.

2:58:11 BEFORE.

2:58:12 UH, FOR THAT STUDY JUST.

2:58:13 CITED COUNSELOR UH, AND WE WANT

2:58:14 TO MAKE SURE THE RFP IS ALIGNED

2:58:17 WITH HOW, UM.

2:58:18 ALL THE.

2:58:19 RELEVANT CITY AGENCIES

2:58:20 ACTUALLY FUNCTION.

2:58:21 UM, SO, UM, WE'RE JUST DOING

2:58:23 OUR DUE DILIGENCE THERE AND

2:58:24 THEN, UM, WE'LL BE.

2:58:25 RELEASING THE RFP.

2:58:27 OKAY.

2:58:28 AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE UM,

2:58:31 UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL.

2:58:32 FUNDS TO THAT.

2:58:33 AND SO.

2:58:34 IT'LL BE.

2:58:34 WE'RE PLAYING FOR IT TO BE A

2:58:36 THREE YEAR RFP.

2:58:39 OKAY.

2:58:39 UM AND THEN SO.

2:58:41 RIGHT NOW UH, HOW MANY HOUSING

2:58:44 DO WE HAVE HOUSING.

2:58:45 TESTERS AND WHAT.

2:58:47 DO WE DO ANY HOUSING TESTING.

2:58:49 THE RFP?

2:58:51 UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE

2:58:52 RFP OR JUST IN GENERAL.

2:58:53 JUST STAFF?

2:58:54 YEAH.

2:58:54 OR IN GENERAL?

2:58:55 NO, NO.

2:58:55 WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF.

2:58:56 TO DO TESTING.

2:58:57 OKAY.

2:58:58 UM AND THEN WHAT I.

2:58:59 GUESS WHAT.

2:59:01 WHAT IS THE PLAN.

2:59:02 FOR THE RFP?

2:59:04 I GUESS.

2:59:04 I MEAN, I KNOW.

2:59:05 YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON IT,

2:59:06 BUT.

2:59:07 UH, WHAT'S.

2:59:08 THE GOAL IN TERMS.

2:59:09 OF STAFFING AND AND NUMBER OF.

2:59:11 INSPECTIONS OR UM.

2:59:13 UH, WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO

2:59:14 YOU ON THAT.

2:59:15 UM.

2:59:16 IT'S UH I MEAN WE CAN GET BACK

2:59:18 TO YOU PRETTY.

2:59:18 QUICKLY.

2:59:19 ON THAT BUT.

2:59:19 UM, THE THE.

2:59:21 STRUCTURALLY IT WOULD BE TO UH

2:59:23 ,CONTRACT UM WITH AN EXTERNAL

2:59:25 ENTITY.

2:59:26 THAT COULD SORT.

2:59:27 OF COORDINATE DOING.

2:59:27 ALL OF THAT AND.

2:59:28 THEN THE UH, SORT OF THE DATA

2:59:30 REPORTING, UM, WOULD COME TO US

2:59:32 AND WE WOULD.

2:59:33 UM WE WOULD SORT.

2:59:34 OF USE THAT INFORMATION ON OUR

2:59:36 SIDE.

2:59:36 OKAY.

2:59:37 DOES THAT MEAN LIKE LIKE

2:59:38 WOULD SUFFOLK DO I.

2:59:39 WHO WHO.

2:59:40 WHAT'S AN EXTERNAL ENTITY.

2:59:42 OR LIKE WHAT TYPE OF ENTITY

2:59:44 OR WE COULD HANDLE THIS.

2:59:47 UM IN MY IMAGINATION IT'S IT'S

2:59:49 UH IT'S A NONPROFIT

2:59:50 ORGANIZATION OR UH, A HIGHER

2:59:53 EDUCATION INSTITUTION, UM, THAT

2:59:55 HAS.

2:59:56 EXPERIENCE UM, DOING THIS SORT

2:59:57 OF, UH, WORK.

2:59:58 OKAY.

3:00:00 UH, AND.

3:00:05 SO.

3:00:05 UH, THE.

3:00:07 THERE'S NO EXCUSE ME BUT TO BE

3:00:08 CLEAR, THIS.

3:00:09 DOESN'T EXCLUDE.

3:00:09 ANY OTHER.

3:00:09 ENTITY FROM APPLYING OR.

3:00:11 YOU KNOW, I'M JUST A MALE.

3:00:12 I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE LIKE

3:00:13 WHO.

3:00:14 WOULD IT BE?

3:00:14 IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, GIBLETS.

3:00:17 IT COULD BE SUFFOLK.

3:00:19 IT COULD BE.

3:00:19 LIKE THEIR HOUSING GROUPS I

3:00:21 GUESS.

3:00:21 AND HISTORICALLY.

3:00:22 SOMETIMES IN THESE SORT

3:00:23 OF SITUATIONS.

3:00:24 YOU MAY HAVE TWO TYPES.

3:00:26 OF.

3:00:26 EXPERTS PARTNER.

3:00:27 TOGETHER FOR A JOINT

3:00:28 APPLICATION.

3:00:28 OKAY.

3:00:29 UM I GUESS SO IN.

3:00:31 TERMS OF THE LOOKING AT THE

3:00:35 2019.

3:00:36 REPORT AND THE 14 GOALS AND.

3:00:39 THE.

3:00:40 108 RECOMMENDATIONS.

3:00:41 OR SORT OF GOALS WITHIN THE

3:00:43 GOALS OKAY.

3:00:45 I DID WONDER LIKE.

3:00:46 IS IS THAT IS.

3:00:48 THAT IS IT.

3:00:49 TOO DIFFICULT TO HANDLE THAT

3:00:51 LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S A 200

3:00:52 PAGE REPORT I DID GO THROUGH GO

3:00:54 THROUGH IT I DON'T TEST ME ON

3:00:56 IT BUT UM OR UH JUST TO LET OUR

3:00:59 MONEY KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE YOU

3:01:00 KNOW, WE DO GO THROUGH THE

3:01:01 REPORTS UH, YOU KNOW, IN.

3:01:04 TERMS OF LIKE TRYING TO MANAGE

3:01:06 THAT.

3:01:06 LIKE WOULD YOU WANT TO WE WOULD

3:01:08 YOU WANT MORE GOALS, FEWER

3:01:10 GOALS GROUP THEM TOGETHER IN

3:01:12 TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN

3:01:14 YOUR ROLE.

3:01:14 HOW HAS IT BEEN JUST WITH THAT?

3:01:17 IS THAT A LARGE NUMBER.

3:01:19 OR SMALL NUMBER?

3:01:20 I MEAN I WOULD SAY UM I THINK I

3:01:25 THINK IT'S BEEN A LOT OF.

3:01:26 WORK TO.

3:01:27 UM TO COORDINATE UM SORT OF.

3:01:29 UPDATES ON EACH OF THE ACTION

3:01:31 ITEMS AND TO COORDINATE THE

3:01:33 RELEVANT UH STAFF TO COME AND

3:01:35 UPDATE THE UH MONITORING

3:01:37 COMMITTEE, UH, IN PERSON, UM IN

3:01:40 AT MEETINGS AND AND YOU KNOW.

3:01:42 FOR SOME OF THE I.

3:01:44 WOULD SAY FOR ALMOST ALL

3:01:45 OF THE SEVEN AGENCIES UH THE

3:01:47 PERSON THAT'S.

3:01:47 DOING THAT REPORTING EVEN THEN.

3:01:50 EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PART

3:01:52 OF THAT DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE NOT

3:01:54 GOING TO BE AN EXPERT ON, YOU

3:01:55 KNOW, ANY PARTICULAR ITEM UM,

3:01:59 UNLESS THEY WERE ALSO ASSIGNED

3:02:00 TO DO THAT ITEM.

3:02:02 SO THEY MIGHT YOU KNOW, MAYOR'S

3:02:03 OFFICE FOR HOUSING FOR EXAMPLE,

3:02:04 HAS ABOUT 75 ITEMS OR 85 ITEMS,

3:02:07 SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

3:02:08 YOU KNOW.

3:02:08 THE PEOPLE ARE.

3:02:09 REPORTING THEY MIGHT BE

3:02:10 EXPERTS ON 2 OR 3 OF THEM.

3:02:11 AND SO THE MINE COMMITTEE WANTS

3:02:12 TO.

3:02:12 ASK ABOUT ONE OF THE OTHER

3:02:14 ITEMS IN REALLY IN DEPTH.

3:02:16 UM, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE

3:02:18 PREPARED IN ADVANCE TO EITHER

3:02:20 HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR TO

3:02:21 BRING THEIR COLLEAGUE UM TO.

3:02:23 TO TO THAT MEETING.

3:02:23 AND SO RIGHT NOW, UM WE'RE

3:02:25 TRYING TO HAVE SOME.

3:02:26 EXPLORATORY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT

3:02:27 HOW TO STRUCTURE THINGS.

3:02:28 BETTER AND.

3:02:29 SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY.

3:02:30 REALLY DO.

3:02:31 INDEED GO.

3:02:32 IN DEPTH.

3:02:33 UM.

3:02:33 UH, WITH.

3:02:34 THE YOU.

3:02:34 KNOW, THE PROJECT LEADS.

3:02:35 FOR.

3:02:35 THE VARIOUS ITEMS.

3:02:36 OKAY.

3:02:37 JUST I THINK SELECTIVE

3:02:37 BLINDNESS ON THIS SIDE SO I

3:02:39 DON'T SEE.

3:02:40 THE CHAIR.

3:02:40 THE TIME IS UP COUNCIL.

3:02:42 UH YEAH I JUST IN.

3:02:43 TERMS OF JUST HOW TO GET THE

3:02:44 REPORTING AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL

3:02:46 LIKE WE WE SHOULD HAVE MORE

3:02:47 REGULAR AND UH, REPORTING ON

3:02:49 HOW THIS IS GOING LIKE JUST

3:02:52 MAYBE BRAINSTORMING WITH

3:02:53 ADVOCATES TO FIGURE OUT, YOU

3:02:55 KNOW, HOW TO HOW TO GET THERE

3:02:56 AND MAYBE PART OF IT IS COMING

3:02:58 UP WITH SOME LARGER.

3:03:00 RUBRICS OR SOMETHING.

3:03:01 BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR.

3:03:03 I APPRECIATE THE TIME.

3:03:03 THANK YOU.

3:03:05 COUNCILOR COUNCILOR.

3:03:06 LOUIJEUNE UM.

3:03:08 THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR

3:03:09 AND THANK YOU TO THE

3:03:11 ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING HERE.

3:03:12 I THINK UH I.

3:03:12 JUST HEARD COUNCILOR WEBER ASK

3:03:15 SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I

3:03:16 HAD, BUT I GUESS A QUESTION I

3:03:18 HAVE WHAT DOES A FULLY STAFFED

3:03:19 OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

3:03:21 EQUITY LOOK LIKE?

3:03:22 UH, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.

3:03:24 IT CONSISTS OF THE EXECUTIVE.

3:03:26 DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

3:03:29 UM.

3:03:30 FOR INVESTIGATORS, INTAKE

3:03:32 SPECIALIST UM, AS UH, SPECIAL

3:03:35 PROJECTS POLICY MANAGER.

3:03:38 UM, IF YOU'RE ASKING IN A

3:03:41 DIRECTOR OF.

3:03:41 INVESTIGATIONS OR SORRY IN A

3:03:43 DIRECTOR OF INVESTIGATIONS THE

3:03:44 .

3:03:45 IF I HAD A WISH LIST.

3:03:48 UM I WOULD ADD MORE UM, MEET.

3:03:52 RESEARCH FOLKS WE NEED WE NEED

3:03:53 RESEARCH FOLKS TO SUPPORT SOME

3:03:55 OF THE POLICY TO HELP DEVELOP

3:03:57 POLICY.

3:03:58 UM.

3:03:59 BE NICE WOULD BE NICE TO

3:04:01 HAVE.

3:04:01 UH.

3:04:02 UM, COUNCILOR.

3:04:04 LEGAL COUNCILOR.

3:04:05 YEP.

3:04:05 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOB

3:04:06 TYRRELL FOUGHT FOR AND REALLY

3:04:08 THE IDEA OF HAVING LIKE A

3:04:10 GENERAL COUNCILOR FOR THE

3:04:10 OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND

3:04:11 EQUITY TO BE ABLE TO BETTER

3:04:13 MANAGE THE CASES.

3:04:15 SO I THANK YOU FOR UPLIFTING

3:04:16 THAT AND I JUST I'M ALWAYS

3:04:17 CONSTANTLY.

3:04:18 GETTING.

3:04:18 CONVERSATIONS BACK WITH BOB

3:04:19 TERRELL AND HOW HE UPLIFTED THE

3:04:21 NEED FOR THAT AS WELL.

3:04:22 YEAH WE YOU KNOW BOB AND I YOU

3:04:24 KNOW BOB WAS MY MENTOR.

3:04:24 WE TALKED ABOUT.

3:04:25 IT ALL THE TIME.

3:04:28 UM YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE TO BE

3:04:30 CAREFUL WITH UH.

3:04:31 WITH UH WITH COUNCILOR BUT UM

3:04:34 BUT WE NEED IT.

3:04:35 THE FOLKS NEED IT.

3:04:36 THE FOLKS NEEDED ON THE FRONT

3:04:37 END.

3:04:40 UM AND AGAIN WE NEED.

3:04:41 YOU KNOW, WE NEED.

3:04:42 MORE RESEARCH.

3:04:44 PERSONNEL TO HELP WITH.

3:04:46 UM, IDENTIFYING.

3:04:47 THE.

3:04:47 DIFFERENT TRENDS THAT ARE GOING

3:04:49 ON WITHIN THE HOUSING MARKET.

3:04:51 SO SO UM.

3:04:53 ,SO I WOULD I WOULD.

3:04:54 ADVOCATE FOR MORE RESOURCE

3:04:55 PEOPLE.

3:04:56 WE HAVE ENOUGH.

3:04:56 INVESTIGATORS I.

3:04:57 THINK THE.

3:04:58 TALENTED THE YOUNG THEY'RE

3:04:59 DOING A FINE JOB.

3:05:01 UM I'M CONFIDENT.

3:05:02 THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE

3:05:03 TO PULL OFF THE TESTING PROGRAM

3:05:07 BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME

3:05:07 TALENTED.

3:05:08 FOLKS IN MY SHOP.

3:05:09 ACTUALLY IN THE ENTIRE CABINET.

3:05:10 WE HAVE SOME TALENTED FOLKS IN

3:05:11 THE HIGH CABINET BUT UM.

3:05:14 BUT YEAH.

3:05:15 THAT'S WHAT I.

3:05:16 WOULD.

3:05:16 YOU.

3:05:17 WELL THANK YOU.

3:05:18 UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE STILL

3:05:19 FOLKS WAITING TO TESTIFY AND I

3:05:21 KNOW ON AND, UH, DWAYNE, HOW

3:05:23 COMMITTED BOTH OF YOU ARE TO

3:05:24 THIS WORK INTO, UM, ROOTING OUT

3:05:29 PATTERNS OF HOUSING

3:05:30 DISCRIMINATION THAT LEAD TO

3:05:31 FURTHER RACIAL SEGREGATION THAT

3:05:33 LEAD TO WEALTH SEGREGATION.

3:05:34 AND SO, UM, THIS WORK IS

3:05:36 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

3:05:37 I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT

3:05:38 SINCE I JOINED THE COUNCIL AND

3:05:40 I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY

3:05:41 PEOPLE IN THE CITY WE HEARD

3:05:42 FROM THE PRIOR PANEL WHO

3:05:44 UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYTHING

3:05:45 INTERSECTS WITH EACH OTHER.

3:05:47 UM, I AGAIN I THINK AWARENESS

3:05:49 AROUND UM WE NEED THE PEOPLE

3:05:52 NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE TAKING

3:05:53 THIS SERIOUSLY AND THAT DOESN'T

3:05:55 HAPPEN IF WE'RE NOT DOING SORT

3:05:56 OF ENFORCEMENT AND

3:05:57 INVESTIGATION.

3:05:58 SO UM.

3:05:58 LOOK FORWARD TO US MOVING

3:06:00 QUICKER IN THIS WORK.

3:06:01 THANK YOU.

3:06:01 I THINK IT'S.

3:06:04 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.

3:06:05 I WANT TO GIVE MYSELF SOME TIME

3:06:06 JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW

3:06:07 QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.

3:06:10 I, UM, JUST WANT TO FIRST OF.

3:06:12 ALL, THE CONVERSATION.

3:06:13 THAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE

3:06:14 HISTORY OF BOSTON AND THE WAY

3:06:16 THAT OUR ZONING AND LAWS.

3:06:19 IN GENERAL WAY PASSED BEFORE

3:06:20 ALL OF OUR TIMES HAVE SHAPED

3:06:21 THE WAY THAT OUR CITY LOOKS

3:06:22 LIKE TODAY.

3:06:23 AND YOU KNOW, I WAS.

3:06:25 ABLE TO.

3:06:26 SPEAK TO A.

3:06:27 PROFESSOR AT NORTHEASTERN

3:06:28 UNIVERSITY, JOANNE FITZGERALD,

3:06:30 AND.

3:06:31 SHE TEACHES 21ST CENTURY CITIES

3:06:33 .

3:06:33 AND A LOT OF THE WORK THAT.

3:06:35 WE HAVE.

3:06:36 TO DO HERE IN THE CITY

3:06:37 OF BOSTON IN TERMS OF REPAIRING

3:06:38 A LOT OF THE THE DAMAGE THAT

3:06:40 WAS DONE REALLY PREVIOUS YEARS

3:06:42 AND I SEE THAT, UH, YOUR OFFICE

3:06:45 SPECIFICALLY PLAYS A KEY ROLE

3:06:46 IN THAT AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE

3:06:49 OF.

3:06:50 SO MUCH PREPARATION THAT WE

3:06:52 HAVE TO DO THAT LEADS TO MY

3:06:54 QUESTION IS HOW OFTEN ARE YOU

3:06:56 GUYS INVOLVED IN THE MEETINGS

3:06:58 WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND

3:07:00 THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHEN

3:07:02 THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ZONING

3:07:03 COMES UP, WHEN CONVERSATIONS

3:07:05 ABOUT SPECIFIC HOUSING

3:07:07 DEVELOPMENTS.

3:07:07 UM.

3:07:08 COME INTO FRUITION?

3:07:09 I MEAN I'M A DISTRICT

3:07:10 COUNCILOR AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE

3:07:11 ALWAYS GETTING PROPOSALS OF OH

3:07:13 HEY.

3:07:14 THIS PROJECT WE COME TO YOUR

3:07:16 DISTRICT.

3:07:16 WHEN ARE YOU WHEN IS YOUR

3:07:18 OFFICE.

3:07:19 LOOPED IN TO THOSE

3:07:20 CONVERSATIONS?

3:07:22 SO SO IT HAPPENS AT SEVERAL

3:07:23 DIFFERENT LEVELS.

3:07:25 SO UM.

3:07:25 UH, ON A BROADER.

3:07:26 LEVEL, UH.

3:07:27 THE CHIEF OF EQUITY

3:07:28 INCLUSION SITS ON THE PLANNING

3:07:29 ADVISORY COUNCIL.

3:07:30 UM, SHE WILL OFTEN BRING

3:07:32 ADDITIONAL STAFF WITH HER TO

3:07:34 UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE

3:07:35 TOPIC UH, AND SO BIG PICTURE

3:07:38 CONVERSATIONS ABOUT.

3:07:39 THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT

3:07:40 YOU'RE.

3:07:40 TALKING ABOUT.

3:07:41 COUNCILOR.

3:07:41 UM, EXCUSE ME, MR CHAIR.

3:07:43 UH, DO COME UP.

3:07:44 UM, UH.

3:07:46 AT THOSE.

3:07:47 MEETINGS AND THEN WHEN IT COMES

3:07:49 TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL.

3:07:50 PROJECTS THAT'S WHERE UM.

3:07:52 THE.

3:07:53 BEFORE IT COMES.

3:07:54 IN AND SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE

3:07:55 AND SO THE.

3:07:55 DECK HAS.

3:07:56 TWO OF OUR STAFF OR TECHNICAL.

3:07:58 EXPERTS.

3:07:59 UH, RIGHT.

3:08:00 ONE ON FAIR HOUSING AND ONE

3:08:02 ON UM.

3:08:02 DISABILITY ACCESS.

3:08:03 PARTICULARLY ARCHITECTURAL

3:08:04 ACCESS.

3:08:05 UM UH SIT THERE.

3:08:07 AND THEN SORT OF IN THE.

3:08:09 MIDDLE IS WHERE WE IDENTIFY

3:08:11 EITHER PATTERNS FROM THE BOTTOM

3:08:12 UP.

3:08:13 OR FROM A BIGGER PICTURE, YOU

3:08:15 KNOW, TOPIC THAT COMES UP WE

3:08:16 MIGHT WANT TO GET INTO THE

3:08:17 WEEDS UM, WITH UM ANY

3:08:20 PARTICULAR PROJECTS.

3:08:21 SO FOR EXAMPLE.

3:08:23 YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TALKING

3:08:24 ABOUT UM UH THE ANTI

3:08:26 DISPLACEMENT PLAN UM AT SORT

3:08:28 OF A HIGH LEVEL AND THEN OUT

3:08:29 OF THAT CAME SOME UH INDIVIDUAL

3:08:32 CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN EQUITY

3:08:34 LEADERS AND UM.

3:08:36 UH THE PLANNING ADVISORY

3:08:38 COUNCIL AND THEN AFTER THAT WE

3:08:39 BROUGHT IN OUR SORT

3:08:40 OF TECHNICAL EXPERT STAFF TO

3:08:41 HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO WEIGH IN.

3:08:43 UM, SO THAT SORT.

3:08:44 OF.

3:08:44 LIKE WE SORT OF IDENTIFY THINGS

3:08:45 IN THOSE DIRECTIONS.

3:08:47 I APPRECIATE THE.

3:08:48 UM I WAS EVEN.

3:08:49 THINKING HERE WHILE YOU YOU

3:08:52 GUYS WERE GIVING THE

3:08:53 PRESENTATION IS THERE'S SO.

3:08:55 MUCH THAT YOU DO IS.

3:08:56 OVERLAP OVERLAPS WITH WHAT.

3:08:58 HOUSING IS DOING WITH WHAT THE.

3:09:00 PLANNING DEPARTMENT HONESTLY IS

3:09:01 DOING.

3:09:01 AND I THINK THAT TO A CERTAIN

3:09:03 EXTENT EVEN THE PLANNING

3:09:05 DEPARTMENT CAN USE.

3:09:07 SOMEONE WITH THIS.

3:09:08 MINDSET INSIDE OF.

3:09:09 THEIR POLICY.

3:09:09 AREA SO THAT THIS PART OF THIS

3:09:12 CONVERSATION ISN'T.

3:09:13 REACTIVE AFTER SOMETHING IS

3:09:14 PROPOSED.

3:09:15 IF NOT, IT'S PART.

3:09:16 OF THE POLICY.

3:09:17 PLANNING UM, FROM SOMEONE LIKE

3:09:18 THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHERE

3:09:20 IT'S JUST PART OF THE THE

3:09:22 FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO

3:09:23 SEE.

3:09:24 SO UM, I YOU KNOW, UM I

3:09:27 HESITATE TO SPEAK FOR THEM.

3:09:28 UH, BUT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

3:09:30 IN PARTICULAR.

3:09:30 UH.

3:09:31 DOES HAVE UM.

3:09:32 UH SEVERAL.

3:09:33 STAFF MEMBERS WHO.

3:09:34 ARE CHARGED WITH PAYING

3:09:35 ATTENTION TO SUCH THINGS.

3:09:37 UM, AND SO UH, I'LL LEAVE

3:09:38 ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN THE

3:09:39 STRUCTURE BUT UM.

3:09:40 THERE UH.

3:09:41 THEY HAVE.

3:09:42 UH.

3:09:43 SENIOR ADVISOR.

3:09:44 UM.

3:09:45 .

3:09:45 WHO.

3:09:45 PAYS ATTENTION TO CERTAIN.

3:09:46 THINGS FAIR.

3:09:47 HOUSING INCLUDED.

3:09:48 UM AND UH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF A

3:09:51 .

3:09:52 UM DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION

3:09:53 TEAM THAT INCLUDES UM SOMEONE

3:09:55 PAYING ATTENTION TO LANGUAGE

3:09:56 ACCESS.

3:09:56 IN PARTICULAR.

3:09:56 OKAY.

3:09:57 SOUNDS LIKE.

3:09:58 WE'LL FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION

3:10:00 WOULD BE HELPFUL.

3:10:01 UM, OKAY.

3:10:01 THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR.

3:10:03 QUESTIONS I KNOW THAT.

3:10:05 DEFINITELY CULPEPER HAS A

3:10:06 FOLLOW UP.

3:10:07 QUESTION COUNCILOR WORRELL.

3:10:08 DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP

3:10:09 QUESTION?

3:10:09 OKAY I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM

3:10:10 EACH THREE MINUTES.

3:10:11 AND THEN COUNCIL.

3:10:12 WITH HIM.

3:10:13 AND COUNCIL VISION.

3:10:14 YES OKAY COUNSELOR MORRELL

3:10:17 THREE MINUTES.

3:10:18 UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

3:10:19 AND WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLAINT

3:10:21 UH, DO OUR COMPLAINTS AT THE

3:10:22 FAIR HOUSING RECEIVED

3:10:24 AUTOMATICALLY GO TO ANY OTHER

3:10:26 AGENCY.

3:10:28 OR LIKE THE AG'S OFFICE OR

3:10:31 MCAD?

3:10:32 NO NOT.

3:10:32 AUTOMATICALLY IF WE.

3:10:34 YOU KNOW, ONCE THE.

3:10:34 PERSON WALKS TO THE DOOR WE TRY

3:10:36 TO ESTABLISH JURISDICTION.

3:10:37 UM, AND.

3:10:38 IF.

3:10:38 WE HAVE.

3:10:39 JURISDICTION, UM, THEN WE

3:10:40 TAKE ON THE CASE AND WE JUST

3:10:41 SORT OF WORK THROUGH.

3:10:42 THE PROCESS.

3:10:42 THEN THEY MAY ELECT.

3:10:45 DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RESULT IS

3:10:47 OF THE OF.

3:10:47 OF THE CASE THEY MAY ELECT

3:10:49 ANOTHER.

3:10:51 ADJUDICATION PIECE UM IN THAT

3:10:54 IN UM AND THEN.

3:10:55 WE WOULD WE WOULD TRY TO

3:10:56 SUPPORT THAT BUT BUT UM BUT FOR

3:10:59 THE MOST PART IF WE CAN

3:11:00 ESTABLISH JURISDICTION THAT WE

3:11:01 TAKE ON THE CASE AND WE TRY TO

3:11:02 TRY.

3:11:03 TO FIND UM.

3:11:05 JUSTICE FOR THE.

3:11:07 FOR THE FOR THE COMPLAINT.

3:11:07 ALL RIGHT.

3:11:08 UM.

3:11:09 WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN

3:11:11 ESTABLISH LIKE A MOU WITH, YOU

3:11:13 KNOW, THE STATE AGENCIES TO SEE

3:11:14 IF WE CAN.

3:11:16 STREAMLINE JUST SO THAT THE

3:11:17 INDIVIDUALS COMING IN DOESN'T

3:11:18 HAVE TO FILL OUT, UM,

3:11:20 ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK TO FILE

3:11:21 THE SAME COMPLAINT.

3:11:23 UH, ANOTHER.

3:11:23 QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN IT

3:11:25 COMES.

3:11:25 TO WE.

3:11:25 HEARD THE COMMUNITY

3:11:26 PANELISTS TALK.

3:11:27 ABOUT THE EQUITY STUDY.

3:11:29 UM, WE WE ALSO HEARD THEM THAT

3:11:31 OTHER CITIES HAVE USED THE

3:11:32 EQUITY STUDY TO, UH, DEFEND

3:11:34 THEIR STRATEGIES.

3:11:36 UH, KEEP AN EYE AN UPDATE AND A

3:11:39 STATUS ON.

3:11:40 UH, THE.

3:11:40 2025 EQUITY STUDY.

3:11:43 SO.

3:11:43 UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE.

3:11:45 REFERRING TO IS.

3:11:46 THE, UM, AFFIRMATIVELY

3:11:47 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING UH,

3:11:49 REVIEW.

3:11:50 UM.

3:11:51 I THINK THAT'S WHAT.

3:11:52 I MEAN WHEN WE HAVE SEVERAL.

3:11:54 EQUITY STUDIES.

3:11:54 GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

3:11:55 OKAY.

3:11:56 YOU'RE AWARE RIGHT, LIKE THE

3:11:57 BLACK MALE.

3:11:58 ADVANCEMENT RIGHTS.

3:11:59 AND UM.

3:12:00 SO I.

3:12:01 THINK WHAT WE WANT.

3:12:02 TO MAKE.

3:12:02 CLEAR IS THAT.

3:12:03 UM, THE CITY IS.

3:12:05 CONTINUING TO ACTIVELY ADVANCE

3:12:06 OUR FAIR HOUSING AGENDA.

3:12:08 THE ACTIONS THAT, UH, ARE.

3:12:11 BEING CONSIDERED BY.

3:12:12 THAT STUDY ARE.

3:12:14 ALL STILL HAPPENING, RIGHT?

3:12:15 WHAT IS.

3:12:16 UH WHAT.

3:12:18 IS UM.

3:12:19 BEING UM, PAUSED FOR NOW UH IS

3:12:24 THE UH IS THE CONTINUING OF.

3:12:26 THE THE.

3:12:27 STUDY ITSELF?

3:12:28 UM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW.

3:12:30 UH.

3:12:31 LAST DECEMBER, UM, AFTER AN

3:12:36 INCREDIBLE AMOUNT

3:12:37 OF PARTNERSHIP, HUD ANNOUNCED A

3:12:38 HOSTILE INVESTIGATION TO.

3:12:39 OUR WORK.

3:12:40 UM, AND THAT THREATENS OUR

3:12:41 FEDERAL FUNDING.

3:12:43 UM, SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO

3:12:45 ADVANCE THE WORK.

3:12:46 UM, BUT HAVE DECIDED TO.

3:12:48 PAUSE THAT FOR NOW.

3:12:49 UM, AND ARE TAKING MEASURES TO,

3:12:52 UM, BE READY TO RESUME UM,

3:12:54 SORT.

3:12:55 OF.

3:12:55 IMMEDIATELY, UH, WHEN WE'RE

3:12:56 READY TO.

3:12:58 ALL RIGHT.

3:12:59 ONE LAST QUESTION.

3:13:00 UM.

3:13:03 WHEN IT COMES TO AND I HAVE

3:13:04 LIKE A.

3:13:05 LIST OF QUESTIONS UM, AND

3:13:06 SUBMIT TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF

3:13:07 WE CAN GET BACK IN WRITING.

3:13:08 UM.

3:13:09 BUT.

3:13:09 WHEN IT COMES TO.

3:13:12 EVICTIONS, DO DO WE HOW DO YOU

3:13:16 WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING

3:13:18 INSTABILITY?

3:13:19 I KIND OF I KNOW WE ALWAYS TALK

3:13:20 ABOUT ACCESS BUT ALSO WHEN IT

3:13:22 COMES TO EVICTIONS, UH,

3:13:23 STABILIZING AND KEEPING PEOPLE

3:13:24 AT HOME.

3:13:25 HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE?

3:13:27 HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THE OFFICE

3:13:29 OF HOUSING STABILITY TO

3:13:30 IDENTIFY ANY CORPORATE

3:13:32 LANDLORDS WHO HAVE A HABIT

3:13:36 OF EVICTING, UM, THOSE THAT ARE

3:13:38 IN SIDE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING?

3:13:40 I BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM THE

3:13:42 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, DANIEL

3:13:44 JOHNSON, UH, ABOUT THE HIGH

3:13:46 RATE OF THOSE THAT ARE IN

3:13:48 AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE

3:13:49 EXPERIENCING EVICTIONS.

3:13:50 SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO HEAR

3:13:52 YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THAT.

3:13:54 AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION

3:13:57 SORRY CHAIR IS I KNOW THERE'S

3:13:58 AN ANNUAL REPORT UM, THROUGH

3:14:01 THE ORDINANCE THAT THE OFFICE

3:14:03 IS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE AROUND

3:14:05 HOW FEAR HOUSING IMPACTS.

3:14:08 MARGINALIZED GROUPS.

3:14:09 WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WAS

3:14:11 UM REPORTED OUT AND IF IT

3:14:13 HASN'T BEEN IN A WHILE, WHEN

3:14:14 CAN.

3:14:15 WE.

3:14:15 EXPECT THE DEPARTMENT TO COME

3:14:17 IN WITHIN COMPLIANCE?

3:14:19 THE LAST QUESTION I WOULD SAY

3:14:21 WHAT PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE

3:14:23 IS TO PROVIDE THE REPORT.

3:14:25 WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE THE

3:14:26 REPORT UM.

3:14:28 ,PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE TO

3:14:29 PROVIDE.

3:14:30 IT UH, MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO

3:14:32 .

3:14:32 BEFORE UH.

3:14:33 HOUSING MONTH WHICH.

3:14:35 IS.

3:14:35 IN APRIL UM OR PROVIDED IN

3:14:38 APRIL I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND

3:14:40 THAT UM.

3:14:43 THE YOUR.

3:14:45 QUESTIONS AROUND.

3:14:46 OUR.

3:14:47 RELATIONSHIP WITH HOUSING

3:14:47 STABILITY AND EVICTIONS.

3:14:50 UM WE DO TALK WITH THEM FROM

3:14:51 TIME.

3:14:52 TO TIME BUT BUT I DON'T THINK

3:14:53 WE HAVE UH, A SPACE WHERE

3:14:56 WE'RE.

3:14:57 TALKING UM OR EXPLORING.

3:14:59 OR.

3:15:00 EVALUATING WHAT YOUR QUESTION

3:15:01 IS.

3:15:01 UM, I'D BE OPEN TO DOING THAT

3:15:03 WITH HOUSING STABILITY.

3:15:04 UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW,

3:15:05 PREVENTION IS.

3:15:06 PROBABLY THE BEST ROUTE TO TAKE

3:15:08 .

3:15:08 UM, ANYTHING.

3:15:09 THAT WE CAN DO TO TO KEEP

3:15:10 FOLKS IN TO.

3:15:11 HOMES UM, ANYTIME WE CAN.

3:15:13 ASSERT OUR.

3:15:15 ENFORCEMENT ABILITIES AND BEST

3:15:16 ABILITIES.

3:15:18 UM, TO HELP SOMEONE GOING

3:15:19 THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I WOULD.

3:15:20 IMPLORE THAT.

3:15:21 SO.

3:15:22 UM.

3:15:24 UH, I THINK IT'S DANIEL

3:15:25 JOHNSON.

3:15:26 I THINK SHE'S OVER AT HOUSING

3:15:27 STABILITY.

3:15:27 I THINK IT.

3:15:28 WARRANTS A CONVERSATION.

3:15:31 UM, UM.

3:15:33 BUT AS FAR.

3:15:33 AS I KNOW THERE'S WE'RE NOT

3:15:35 ACTIVELY.

3:15:38 TALKING TO THEM ABOUT.

3:15:39 THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.

3:15:40 AT LEAST I'M NOT.

3:15:41 OKAY.

3:15:42 THANKS.

3:15:43 OKAY.

3:15:43 THANK YOU.

3:15:44 AND I'LL MAKE SURE I SUBMIT

3:15:45 THOSE.

3:15:46 QUESTIONS TO COMMITTEE OKAY.

3:15:48 COUNSELOR CULPEPER THANK YOU,

3:15:50 MR CHAIR.

3:15:51 MR LEE, I WON'T GO THROUGH THE

3:15:53 REST OF THOSE, UH, CALLS.

3:15:56 WHAT I'LL DO IS, UH, I'LL

3:15:59 SUBMIT THE QUESTIONS TO THE

3:16:00 CHAIR AND HE CAN SUBMIT THE

3:16:03 REST OF THE.

3:16:03 QUESTIONS TO YOU SO YOU CAN, UH

3:16:06 ,PROVIDE THE DATA THAT YOU

3:16:07 HAVE.

3:16:08 UM, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T

3:16:11 HAVE TO TRY AND LOOK THROUGH

3:16:12 YOUR NOTES IN AND GOT A COUPLE

3:16:15 OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE

3:16:17 OPERATION OF THE FAIR HOUSING

3:16:19 OFFICE IN 2025.

3:16:21 HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DID.

3:16:22 YOU GET?

3:16:26 UH HOW.

3:16:27 MANY COMPLAINTS THAT WE GOT?

3:16:28 UM.

3:16:29 ,I DON'T KNOW.

3:16:30 THAT'S THAT'S.

3:16:31 A GOOD QUESTION.

3:16:32 25 I'D SAY.

3:16:34 I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I

3:16:36 DON'T GUESS.

3:16:36 YEAH OKAY, I.

3:16:37 WILL JUST.

3:16:38 I CAN GET YOUR.

3:16:39 ESTIMATION THOUGH QUICK.

3:16:39 WHEN YOU YEAH WHEN YOU GET

3:16:41 BACK.

3:16:41 PROVIDE THE INFORMATION WE CAN

3:16:42 AND UH, MR LEE YOU MENTIONED

3:16:45 THAT MORE MONEY WAS BEING ADDED

3:16:48 TO THE TESTING PROGRAM.

3:16:50 I KNOW THE COUNCIL ADDED TO OUR

3:16:52 FISCAL 27.

3:16:54 BUDGET AN ADDITIONAL $100,000.

3:16:57 HOW MUCH MORE?

3:17:00 ARE YOU ADDING?

3:17:02 AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED

3:17:03 EARLIER THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED

3:17:04 THAT YOU'RE ADDING MORE HOW

3:17:06 MUCH MORE YOU'RE ADDING TO THE.

3:17:08 CURRENT TESTING PROGRAM THAT

3:17:10 YOU'RE ABOUT TO UH, ISSUE AN

3:17:13 RFP FOR?

3:17:14 I'D HAVE TO CHECK BUT I THINK

3:17:16 IT'S AROUND 200,000.

3:17:18 ABOUT 200,000 IN ADDITION

3:17:19 TO.

3:17:19 THE CORRECT MONEY THAT WAS

3:17:21 ALREADY THERE.

3:17:22 YES.

3:17:22 OKAY.

3:17:23 AND WITH REGARD TO THE SECTION

3:17:27 EIGHT PROGRAM AND AND THE UH

3:17:30 2020 STUDY, UH, I WANT TO ASK A

3:17:33 COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT

3:17:35 GHOSTING.

3:17:36 UM, BECAUSE IN THAT STUDY THEY

3:17:38 FOUND THAT 42% OF THE TIME THE

3:17:45 UM 42% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE

3:17:48 FOLKS HAD UM ACTUALLY UH HAD

3:17:52 VOUCHERS WERE GHOSTED VERSUS

3:17:56 10%.

3:17:57 FOR THE.

3:17:58 NON VOUCHER TESTERS.

3:17:59 HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT?

3:18:01 AND WHEN SOMEONE.

3:18:03 REFUSES TO.

3:18:04 RESPOND TO.

3:18:05 A SECTION EIGHT.

3:18:07 UH APPLICANT.

3:18:08 HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHETHER

3:18:10 THAT.

3:18:10 THAT GHOSTING IS A.

3:18:12 VIOLATION OR IT'S JUST.

3:18:13 SOMEONE THAT MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN

3:18:16 TO GET BACK TO THAT PERSON?

3:18:19 UM SO SO.

3:18:21 I YOU'RE.

3:18:21 REFERRING TO THE STUDY FROM

3:18:22 THE.

3:18:23 BUS FOUNDATION UNIVERSE.

3:18:24 A.

3:18:24 2020 STUDY.

3:18:25 THE, UH, QUALIFIED WINNERS

3:18:26 NEED.

3:18:27 NOT APPLY.

3:18:27 STUDY SO.

3:18:28 SO FOR THE.

3:18:29 FOR SO FOR YOUR FIRST.

3:18:30 QUESTION I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER.

3:18:32 TO THE RESEARCHERS ABOUT.

3:18:34 THEIR METHODOLOGY.

3:18:34 UM, AND.

3:18:35 WHAT ABOUT DUANE DUANE.

3:18:36 DUANE ANSWER THE SECOND

3:18:38 QUESTION.

3:18:38 YEAH YEAH I THINK I.

3:18:39 THINK HOW DO YOU INVESTIGATE

3:18:41 CASES WHERE THE LANDLORD BROKER

3:18:44 NEVER EXPLICITLY RESPONDED TO

3:18:46 SOMEONE THAT APPLIED IT?

3:18:48 IT WOULD COME THROUGH THE

3:18:50 INVESTIGATIVE.

3:18:50 PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.

3:18:51 SO SO LET'S BACK UP FOR A

3:18:54 SECOND SO THAT.

3:18:56 THE THE VOUCHER.

3:18:57 FIRST HAS.

3:18:58 TO KNOW WHAT THAT.

3:19:00 DISCRIMINATION PIECE LOOKS LIKE

3:19:01 RIGHT.

3:19:02 AND THEN THEY HAVE TO.

3:19:04 HAVE THEY HAVE TO COME IN TO

3:19:06 THE OFFICE.

3:19:07 AND FILE.

3:19:07 BUT THAT'S PART OF THE.

3:19:08 PROBLEM THAT THAT THEY DON'T.

3:19:09 THEY DON'T.

3:19:10 SO.

3:19:11 YEAH SO AND I TOTALLY AGREE

3:19:12 WITH YOU SO SO SO.

3:19:14 SO OUR OFFICE HAS TO BE MORE

3:19:16 INTENTIONAL AROUND PROVIDING

3:19:18 SUPPORT.

3:19:19 TO VOUCHER HOLDERS.

3:19:19 AND HELPING THEM TO UNDERSTAND

3:19:21 WHAT.

3:19:22 DISCRIMINATION LOOKS LIKE.

3:19:24 AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES.

3:19:26 THAT WE HAVE IS UM.

3:19:28 WE GOT TO.

3:19:28 DO A BETTER JOB AT IT,

3:19:29 RIGHT?

3:19:30 UM, UM.

3:19:31 WE'RE TOUCHING A LOT OF PEOPLE.

3:19:33 WE'RE DOING A.

3:19:34 LOT OF OUTREACH BUT PEOPLE.

3:19:34 STILL DON'T.

3:19:35 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHAT

3:19:36 THEY DON'T THEY DON'T.

3:19:37 FULLY UNDERSTAND THEIR THEIR.

3:19:38 RIGHTS AND THEY DON'T

3:19:40 UNDERSTAND WHAT.

3:19:41 DISCRIMINATION LOOKS LIKE.

3:19:42 SO NO QUESTION UM, HAS YOUR

3:19:44 OFFICE INVESTIGATED ANY

3:19:46 GHOSTING CASES AND MADE A

3:19:48 FINDING A FINDING THAT THERE

3:19:51 WAS GHOSTING IN A CASE?

3:19:55 AS YOU FRAME IT I DON'T I DON'T

3:19:57 I DON'T.

3:19:57 THINK SO BUT BUT I CAN.

3:19:58 LOOK AT THE.

3:19:59 SOURCE OF INCOME.

3:20:01 COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE ON FILE

3:20:04 TO SEE.

3:20:04 IF THAT APPLIES.

3:20:06 OKAY.

3:20:07 AND I'LL SUBMIT THE I'VE GOT

3:20:09 A ON A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS

3:20:11 AROUND GHOSTING BUT I'LL SUBMIT

3:20:13 THEM TO UH TO THE CHAIR OKAY.

3:20:17 UM GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO

3:20:19 GO BACK AND ACTUALLY LOOK AND.

3:20:21 TALK TO THE.

3:20:22 INVESTIGATORS ABOUT GHOSTING

3:20:23 BECAUSE.

3:20:24 IT'S.

3:20:24 IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE

3:20:27 OF SECTION EIGHT DISCRIMINATION

3:20:29 THAT'S NOT INVESTIGATED.

3:20:31 VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT'S VERY

3:20:33 DIFFICULT, UM, TO MAKE A

3:20:35 FINDING.

3:20:36 THAT GHOSTING.

3:20:37 WAS INVOLVED IN A CASE I

3:20:38 SUBMIT THE CLOSEST TO.

3:20:39 YES.

3:20:40 THANK YOU.

3:20:40 THANK YOU VERY WELL.

3:20:42 MR CHAIR MAY.

3:20:42 SAY THAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUE IS

3:20:44 BEING INCREDIBLY MODEST.

3:20:45 ABOUT HIS PUBLIC.

3:20:46 EDUCATION EFFORTS.

3:20:47 UM, LAST YEAR HE QUADRUPLED.

3:20:49 THE TARGET.

3:20:50 WELL.

3:20:51 HE SORT OF GLOSSED OVER THAT

3:20:53 EARLIER.

3:20:53 THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.

3:20:54 THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.

3:20:55 ON THAT.

3:20:56 THANK YOU.

3:20:57 YOU'RE WELCOME.

3:20:58 MR LEE AND.

3:21:00 MR WATTS.

3:21:00 YEAH.

3:21:01 OKAY.

3:21:03 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE UH, I HOPE I.

3:21:05 I DON'T THINK YOU IT I.

3:21:09 I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING UM

3:21:11 THE LIKE THE FEDERAL NATURE

3:21:13 OF THE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW.

3:21:15 UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT

3:21:17 ON THE WORK BUT I THINK YOU

3:21:18 ANSWERED YOU ANSWERED THAT UM,

3:21:21 I KNOW IT IS INCREDIBLY

3:21:23 CHALLENGING TO DO THIS WORK AND

3:21:26 FACING ALL OF THESE HEADWINDS.

3:21:27 UH, I WAS NAMED IN THE

3:21:30 INVESTIGATION AND IN THE

3:21:30 LAWSUIT, UH, FOR THE WORK THAT

3:21:32 WE'RE TRYING TO DO AROUND

3:21:33 FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING IN THE

3:21:34 WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO

3:21:35 MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING

3:21:37 PEOPLE INCLUSIVE OPPORTUNITIES

3:21:38 .

3:21:39 UM, AND STILL I THINK THAT

3:21:40 THERE ARE UM UH, EVEN TO WHAT

3:21:42 COUNCILOR CULPEPER WAS TALKING

3:21:43 ABOUT THE GHOSTING THAT

3:21:44 HAPPENS.

3:21:44 RIGHT.

3:21:45 LIKE SHOWING THE IMPORTANCE

3:21:46 OF THAT'S WHY YOU NEED PEER

3:21:47 TESTING IS LIKE AND THAT'S WHY

3:21:49 THAT'S THE GOLD STANDARD.

3:21:50 AND SO I'M WONDERING I THINK

3:21:52 COUNCILOR WEBER DID ASK THE

3:21:53 QUESTION ABOUT UM LIKE THE WHO

3:21:57 IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE

3:21:59 RESEARCH AND THE PEER TESTING

3:22:00 SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SUFFOLK

3:22:01 UNIVERSITY, UH, THE FAIR

3:22:03 HOUSING CENTER OF GREATER

3:22:04 BOSTON.

3:22:05 UH, WHO ARE ARE LIKE

3:22:06 TRADITIONAL PARTNERS IN THIS

3:22:08 WORK SO WE CAN WRITE OUT THE

3:22:09 THINGS LIKE I MEAN I THINK IT'S

3:22:12 REALLY VOUCHER DISCRIMINATION I

3:22:14 THINK IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST

3:22:15 BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FACING SO

3:22:18 MUCH PRESSURE AND VULNERABILITY

3:22:19 IN THEIR PURSUIT OF BUT I

3:22:21 THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE

3:22:22 QUADRUPLING THAT HAS ALREADY

3:22:23 HAPPENED UH, WHO ARE WHO DO YOU

3:22:26 SEE AS OUR PARTNERS AND ABLE TO

3:22:27 BECAUSE LIKE THE CITY OF BOSTON

3:22:28 ALONE CAN'T DO IT.

3:22:29 SO WHO ARE OUR PARTNERS IN THIS

3:22:30 WORK?

3:22:32 I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IN

3:22:34 ADDITION TO THE TWO AGENCIES

3:22:35 THAT YOU MENTIONED, I WOULD

3:22:36 ALSO INCLUDE ACE IN THAT

3:22:38 CONVERSATION AS WELL.

3:22:40 UM, UH.

3:22:42 I'D PROBABLY INCLUDE UH, URBAN

3:22:44 LEAGUE IN THAT CONVERSATION.

3:22:47 UH, BUT UM.

3:22:52 ANY ANY ORGANIZATION THAT

3:22:53 TOUCHES.

3:22:54 ARE.

3:22:54 PROTECTED CLASSES.

3:22:55 GREAT.

3:22:56 SO SO WHETHER IT'S DISABILITY

3:22:58 OR FAMILIAL STATUS.

3:23:00 OR UM, GENDER LGBTQ SAID ANY

3:23:03 AGENCY THAT ANY AGENCY THAT

3:23:05 TOUCHES UH, PROTECTED CLASSES

3:23:07 CAN BE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH US

3:23:10 IN COLLABORATION.

3:23:12 UM AND WE CAN WE CAN GET THE

3:23:14 OUTCOMES THAT WE WANT.

3:23:15 UM.

3:23:16 UH, THROUGH THAT

3:23:17 COLLABORATION AND AND AS I

3:23:19 MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A.

3:23:22 WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH

3:23:25 TAP INTO STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE

3:23:27 TRUSTED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE

3:23:30 WITH THE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS

3:23:31 THAT WE WANT TO THAT WE WANT TO

3:23:33 THAT WE WANT TO HELP.

3:23:33 YEAH.

3:23:34 AND I THINK THERE'S A

3:23:35 GREATER ROLE FOR BOTH HERE WHEN

3:23:37 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOUCHER

3:23:38 DISCRIMINATION AND THEY HAVE A

3:23:40 WHOLE OFFICE THAT I THINK CAN

3:23:41 YOU KNOW THAT THAT DOES IS

3:23:43 WORKING CAN CAN CAN LEAN IN

3:23:44 MORE.

3:23:44 YEAH.

3:23:45 SO I SEE THE CHAIR STARING

3:23:47 AT ME.

3:23:47 MY QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT

3:23:48 LIKE IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE

3:23:50 HEADWINDS OF WITH THE FEDERAL

3:23:51 CHALLENGES AND UH UH AN

3:23:55 ADMINISTRATION THAT OFTEN

3:23:55 PROVES ITSELF TO BE DOING

3:23:57 ANYTHING ANYTHING THAT'S THE

3:23:58 OPPOSITE OF UH EQUITY AND UM

3:24:01 AND DISPLACEMENT.

3:24:02 SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

3:24:03 THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE YOU

3:24:04 ALL ARE DOING FACING INCREDIBLY

3:24:07 CHALLENGING HEADWINDS ON THE

3:24:08 FEDERAL LEVEL.

3:24:08 YEAH.

3:24:09 I'M THINKING.

3:24:09 AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE

3:24:11 MORE COMMENT AND THEN ALSO I

3:24:13 THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER

3:24:14 JOB IN MAXIMIZING THE

3:24:15 RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE IN

3:24:16 HOUSE.

3:24:17 OUR CABINET.

3:24:18 TOUCHES A LOT OF FOLKS THAT

3:24:20 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT LGBTQ

3:24:22 TO SAY UH, DISABILITY FOLKS UM

3:24:26 ,BLACK MALE ADVANCEMENT

3:24:28 WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT LKE TO TO

3:24:30 MAKE WHICH JUSTICE IS ALSO

3:24:31 IMPORTANT.

3:24:33 UM AND WE'RE GOING TO

3:24:34 ADVANCEMENT.

3:24:36 SO SO I THINK.

3:24:39 UM AS A AS A AS A CABINET I

3:24:41 THINK WE NEED TO LOOK OR

3:24:42 EXPLORE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR

3:24:43 US TO TO TO WORK TOGETHER.

3:24:46 UM.

3:24:47 AND MAXIMIZE UM THE

3:24:49 OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE

3:24:50 BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE

3:24:51 ON THE GROUND HEARING

3:24:52 COMPLAINTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.

3:24:54 UM AND THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT

3:24:55 THAT COMES IN IS HOUSING.

3:24:57 SO SO AND I THINK YOU KNOW,

3:24:59 LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW,

3:25:00 SOME OF US ARE WORKING IN

3:25:01 SILOS.

3:25:02 WE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB

3:25:03 OF BREAKING DOWN THOSE SILOS

3:25:04 AND AND AND FINDING

3:25:06 OPPORTUNITIES TO UH, CREATE

3:25:09 OPPORTUNITIES TO TO TO HELP

3:25:10 THESE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THAT

3:25:12 ARE SUFFERING.

3:25:15 THANK YOU.

3:25:17 OKAY.

3:25:18 UM.

3:25:19 TO ALL THE COUNCILORS THAT HAVE

3:25:20 ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, MAKE

3:25:21 SURE TO SUBMIT THEM TO ME AND

3:25:23 I'LL TO GIVE THAT OVER TO THE.

3:25:25 ADMINISTRATION AN EXAMPLE.

3:25:28 OKAY.

3:25:30 NOW IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC

3:25:33 TESTIMONY.

3:25:33 HERE I HAVE A LIST.

3:25:35 I HAVE A.

3:25:36 STEPHANIE WILLIAMS.

3:25:37 AND I HAVE A T LAWRENCE WHERE

3:25:40 UM YOU MAY PROCEED TO THE

3:25:42 MICROPHONE.

3:25:44 I'M GONNA GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES.

3:26:00 GOOD AFTERNOON.

3:26:01 COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE

3:26:02 COMMITTEE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS

3:26:03 AND MY CEC MEMBERS.

3:26:05 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO,

3:26:07 UM, TESTIFY TODAY.

3:26:08 MY NAME IS STEPHANIE WILLIAMS

3:26:09 AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF

3:26:11 OF ACE, WHICH IS THE

3:26:12 ALTERNATIVE COMMUNITY AND

3:26:13 ENVIRONMENT INC., UH, ROXBURY

3:26:16 BASED ORGANIZATION WHICH I

3:26:17 SERVE AS A DEPUTY DIRECTOR.

3:26:21 UM, I BRING ABOUT 25.

3:26:23 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

3:26:24 IN HOUSING ADVOCACY.

3:26:26 UM, TO THIS TO TO TO ACE.

3:26:30 UH, AND THIS THIS STEMS FROM MY

3:26:32 WORK AT JBL'S UM WORKING IN THE

3:26:34 HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS UNIT

3:26:36 AS A PARALEGAL YEARS AGO AND

3:26:37 THEN ALSO WORKING UM AT THE

3:26:40 GREATER BOSTON.

3:26:41 THE FAILED SORT OF GREATER

3:26:42 BOSTON.

3:26:42 UM.

3:26:43 AS A TESTING COORDINATOR AND

3:26:45 THERE AT THE FAIR HOUSING

3:26:46 CENTER GREATER BOSTON, WHICH

3:26:47 WAS A UH ORGANIZATION WE.

3:26:50 WE HAD A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE WE

3:26:52 PROVIDED TESTING, TRAINING,

3:26:54 EDUCATION, COMMUNITY OUTREACH,

3:26:56 COMMUNITY OUTREACH, CASE

3:26:58 ADVOCACY, POLICY ADVOCACY AND

3:27:00 RESEARCH AND ENFORCEMENT

3:27:02 EFFORTS AS A SMALL TEAM.

3:27:06 ACE IS PREPARING TO LAUNCH A

3:27:07 NEW FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM

3:27:09 SERVING GREATER ROXBURY WITH

3:27:11 SUPPORT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH

3:27:12 GRANT.

3:27:14 THE PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE FAIR

3:27:16 HOUSING, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY

3:27:18 OUTREACH, TESTING AND

3:27:20 ENFORCEMENT REFERRALS.

3:27:23 OUR GOAL IS TO HELP RESIDENTS

3:27:25 UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS,

3:27:27 IDENTIFY POTENTIAL

3:27:29 DISCRIMINATION AND CONNECT THEM

3:27:30 WITH THE APPROPRIATE LEGAL AND

3:27:32 ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES.

3:27:34 WE WANT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY

3:27:35 WITH THE CITY AND OTHER.

3:27:37 COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS.

3:27:38 ON FAIR HOUSING, EDUCATION,

3:27:39 OUTREACH, REFERRALS, TESTAMENT

3:27:41 AND ENFORCEMENT.

3:27:43 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD

3:27:44 NOT HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE FAIR

3:27:46 HOUSING THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING

3:27:48 SYSTEM ON THEIR OWN.

3:27:49 WE NEED A CLEAR AND ACCESSIBLE

3:27:51 CONNECTION BETWEEN RESIDENTS,

3:27:53 COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND THE

3:27:54 CITY'S FAIR HOUSING

3:27:55 INFRASTRUCTURE.

3:27:57 WE ALSO ENCOURAGE THE

3:27:58 COUNCIL TO EXAMINE THE CAPACITY

3:28:00 AND RESOURCES OF THE OFFICE

3:28:01 OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY AND

3:28:03 WHETHER THE CITY HAS AN

3:28:04 INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE

3:28:06 NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO

3:28:08 COMPLAINTS, COORDINATING

3:28:09 REFERRALS AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON

3:28:11 THEIR ENFORCEMENT.

3:28:12 THE HOUSE IS NOT SIMPLY A

3:28:14 POLICY OR LEGAL REQUIREMENT IT

3:28:17 DIRECTLY AFFECTS WHERE THE

3:28:18 BOSTON RESIDENTS CAN FIND

3:28:20 HOUSING, REMAIN IN THEIR

3:28:22 COMMUNITIES AND ACCESS

3:28:23 OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE FREE FROM

3:28:25 DISCRIMINATION.

3:28:26 ACE IS READY TO BECOME A

3:28:28 COMMUNITY PARTNER IN THIS WORK

3:28:29 .

3:28:31 I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXTRA 30S.

3:28:33 OKAY.

3:28:34 WE ARE NOT ASKING TO WORK

3:28:35 AROUND THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING

3:28:36 AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

3:28:38 WE'RE ASKING TO BE CONNECTED

3:28:39 WITH IT.

3:28:40 WE ASK THE CITY TO ESTABLISH

3:28:42 CLEAR POINTS OF CONTACT.

3:28:43 ADEQUATE RESOURCES.

3:28:44 STRONG COORDINATION.

3:28:46 MEANINGFUL LANGUAGE ACCESS.

3:28:49 TRANSPARENCY AROUND COMPLAINTS,

3:28:50 REFERRALS, ENFORCEMENT AND

3:28:51 OUTCOMES.

3:28:51 AND FINALLY, THE CITY HAS AN

3:28:53 IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY IN

3:28:54 ENSURING THAT FAIR HOUSING

3:28:56 PROTECTIONS ARE NOT ONLY ON

3:28:57 PAPER BUT AND ENFORCEABLE IN

3:28:59 MEANING TO THE BOSTON

3:29:00 RESIDENTS.

3:29:00 THANK YOU.

3:29:03 AND THANK YOU FOR BEING

3:29:04 HERE.

3:29:05 OKAY, MR T LAWRENCE.

3:29:08 RATHER THAN REPEAT THE

3:29:09 IMPORTANT TESTIMONY ALREADY

3:29:11 PROVIDED CONCERNING

3:29:12 DISCRIMINATION, DISPLACEMENT

3:29:14 AND BEING HOUSING ENFORCEMENT.

3:29:16 I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON

3:29:17 SEVERAL HOUSING PRACTICES THAT

3:29:19 RECEIVE FAR LESS PUBLIC

3:29:22 ATTENTION BUT HAVE A DIRECT

3:29:23 IMPACT ON HOUSING STABILITY,

3:29:25 TENANTS RIGHTS AND QUALITY

3:29:27 OF LIFE IN BOSTON.

3:29:28 THESE ISSUES OFTEN EXIST BELOW

3:29:30 THE LEVEL OF FORMAL COMPLAINTS

3:29:32 AND THEREFORE ESCAPE MEANINGFUL

3:29:35 OVERSIGHT.

3:29:35 YET THEY CONTRIBUTE TO

3:29:37 FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, UNEQUAL

3:29:39 BARGAINING POWER AND BARRIERS

3:29:41 TO MAINTAINING STABLE HOUSING.

3:29:44 IN MY VIEW, AS AN UPDATED

3:29:47 ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING

3:29:49 SHOULD EXAMINE NOT ONLY WHERE

3:29:51 PEOPLE CAN LIVE BUT ALSO THE

3:29:53 CONDITIONS, LEASE PRACTICES AND

3:29:56 HOUSING STANDARDS THAT SHAPE

3:29:57 RESIDENTS DAILY LIVES.

3:29:58 WEDNESDAY SECURE HOUSING FOR

3:30:01 FAIR HOUSING.

3:30:02 TO BE MEANINGFUL IT MUST

3:30:03 INCLUDE FAIRNESS IN

3:30:05 ADMINISTRATION OF LEASES.

3:30:07 UTILITY AND UTILITY BILLING

3:30:10 PRACTICES, ENFORCEMENT

3:30:12 MECHANISMS AND MINIMUM QUALITY

3:30:15 OF LIFE STANDARDS THROUGHOUT

3:30:16 THE CITY.

3:30:17 MANY LEE LEWIS DRAFT LEASES AND

3:30:20 MANDATORY ADDENDA THAT IMPOSE

3:30:21 SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES ON

3:30:23 TENANTS WHILE IMPOSING

3:30:25 VIRTUALLY NO CONSEQUENCES ON

3:30:26 LEE LEWIS FOR VIOLATING THE

3:30:28 LEASE, HOUSING CODES OR OTHER

3:30:30 LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.

3:30:31 WHEN INCREASINGLY TROUBLED

3:30:33 PROVISION REQUIRES TENANTS TO

3:30:35 PAY LANDLORDS ATTORNEY'S FEES

3:30:37 UNLESS THE TENANT FULLY

3:30:39 PREVAILS THROUGH A COURT

3:30:41 JUDGMENT.

3:30:42 IN PRACTICE, IF A TENANT

3:30:43 RESOLVES A DISPUTE SETTLEMENT

3:30:46 MEDIATION, ADR OR OTHER

3:30:48 NEGOTIATED OUTCOME THEY MAY

3:30:50 STILL BE EXPOSED TO SUBSTANTIAL

3:30:52 LEGAL FEES.

3:30:53 THIS CREATES A CHILLING EFFECT

3:30:55 AGAINST TENANTS OF FORCING

3:30:56 THEIR RIGHTS AND IMPACT ON

3:30:58 THEIR CREDIT SHOULD THEY NOT BE

3:30:59 ABLE TO PAY IN THE TIME SET

3:31:01 FORTH IN THEIR LEASE.

3:31:03 I AM ALSO HEARING CONCERNS FROM

3:31:05 TENANTS REGARDING LANDLORDS

3:31:06 COMBINING METERED WATER CHARGES

3:31:08 WITH RENT AND ELIMINATING THE

3:31:11 ABILITY TO MAKE SEPARATE

3:31:12 PAYMENTS BY CHECK WHEN THE

3:31:14 LEASE CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY

3:31:16 CAN WHEN RESIDENTS CANNOT

3:31:18 CLEARLY DISTINGUISH RENT

3:31:20 OBLIGATION FROM UTILITY

3:31:21 CHARGES.

3:31:21 IT MAY CREATE CONFUSION,

3:31:24 FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND

3:31:25 CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAN BE USED

3:31:27 TO SUPPORT EVICTION ACTIONS.

3:31:30 I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD

3:31:31 INVESTIGATE THESE PRACTICES AND

3:31:33 DEVELOP ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS

3:31:34 WHERE APPROPRIATE.

3:31:36 I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO

3:31:37 CONSIDER A LOCAL ORDINANCE

3:31:39 EMPOWERING THE CITY AGENCIES TO

3:31:40 INVESTIGATE UNFAIR LEASE

3:31:42 PROVISIONS, ISSUE FINES FOR

3:31:44 ABUSIVE PRACTICES AND PROHIBIT

3:31:46 WHEN SIDE LEASE TERMS THAT

3:31:48 PENALIZE TENANTS WHILE

3:31:48 PROVIDING NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR

3:31:51 LANDLORDS.

3:31:51 FINALLY, HOUSING QUALITY

3:31:54 MATTERS AS MUCH AS HOUSING

3:31:55 ACCESS.

3:31:56 BOSTON SHOULD ESTABLISH

3:31:58 OCCUPANCY SIZE STANDARDS THAT

3:32:00 RECOGNIZE THE RELATIONSHIP

3:32:01 BETWEEN LIVING SPACE AND

3:32:03 QUALITY OF LIFE.

3:32:04 FOR EXAMPLE, MANY AFFORDABLE

3:32:07 ONE BEDROOM UNITS IN BOSTON ARE

3:32:09 SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN

3:32:11 COMPARABLE UNITS IN SURROUNDING

3:32:13 COMMUNITIES.

3:32:14 RESIDENTS DESERVE TRANSPARENCY

3:32:15 AND STANDARDS REGARDING WHAT

3:32:18 CONSTITUTES A ONE BEDROOM OR

3:32:20 MORE PRINCIPLES ESTABLISHED IN

3:32:22 DECISIONS SUCH AS BOSTON

3:32:24 HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE

3:32:25 HEMINGWAY IN BOSTON HOUSING

3:32:27 AUTHORITY THE BRIDGEWATER

3:32:29 BRIDGEWATER'S RECOGNIZED THAT

3:32:30 HOUSING IS NOT SIMPLY A

3:32:32 COMMODITY IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL

3:32:33 NECESSITY.

3:32:34 THERE MUST BE SAFE, FAIR AND

3:32:36 ACCESSIBLE.

3:32:38 THANK YOU.

3:32:39 WELCOME.

3:32:40 IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT

3:32:42 WOULD.

3:32:42 LIKE TO TESTIFY THEY DESIRE.

3:32:46 ONCE AND TWICE.

3:32:48 THANK YOU.

3:32:49 OKAY.

3:32:51 UM, WE HAVE.

3:32:53 ONE VIDEO TESTIMONY.

3:32:55 THERE'S A TESTIMONY OF A

3:32:58 TESTIMONY.

3:32:58 IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

3:33:00 SO, ETHAN.

3:33:01 GO AHEAD.

3:33:02 LAURIE RADWAN.

3:33:04 FOLLOWED BY SHARON HINTON AND

3:33:06 DIANE VALLEY JUST FOR PEOPLE TO

3:33:08 KNOW.

3:33:08 WHO HAD A TRANSPORTATION

3:33:09 ISSUES.

3:33:10 HE'S STILL HERE AND HE HAD

3:33:11 TO LEAVE, I GUESS.

3:33:12 UM, RORY, BEFORE YOU START MY

3:33:14 CLOCK, CAN YOU HAND OUT THIS

3:33:15 AND I'LL TAKE ANY EXTRAS.

3:33:17 HELLO.

3:33:17 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS

3:33:19 TESTIMONY AND TESTIMONY.

3:33:21 I'M SORRY.

3:33:21 WHEN I LIVE IN ROSLINDALE, I'M

3:33:23 ,UH, REPRESENTING THE D5

3:33:25 ADVOCATES ON DOCKET TEN 91099.

3:33:29 YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.

3:33:30 IN A LETTER TO THE

3:33:31 ADMINISTRATION, GBA LEWIS WARNS

3:33:33 THAT SQUARES AND STREETS

3:33:34 PROGRAM COULD EASILY DEFEAT THE

3:33:36 GOAL OF AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT

3:33:37 AND INCLUSION.

3:33:39 THEY DID NOT SAY EXCEPT IN

3:33:41 ROSLINDALE.

3:33:41 THE MAYOR'S FH ORDERS STATES

3:33:43 THAT LOCATION SHOULD NOT

3:33:45 DETERMINE CIVIL RIGHTS ACCESS,

3:33:47 DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.

3:33:48 SHE DIDN'T SAY BUT NOT IN

3:33:50 ROSLINDALE.

3:33:51 RESIDENTS FROM ROXBURY,

3:33:52 DORCHESTER AND JP MET WITH THE

3:33:54 PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO ASSURE

3:33:55 THEY HAD AN ON AUDIT BEFORE

3:33:58 THEY WERE SQUARES AND STREETS.

3:34:00 NO ONE FROM ROSS CENTER WAS

3:34:01 THERE.

3:34:03 THE SQUARES AND STREETS

3:34:04 REZONING IN HYDE PARK IN

3:34:06 DORCHESTER WAS STOPPED OR

3:34:07 EFFECTIVELY HALTED.

3:34:08 YET IT MOVED FORWARD ON

3:34:10 ROSLINDALE.

3:34:10 SO THE FACT SHEET THAT YOU HAVE

3:34:12 BEFORE YOU WILL UM, SHOW OVERT

3:34:15 DISPARITIES IN COMMUNITY

3:34:16 ENGAGEMENT FOR PERSONS AND

3:34:17 PROTECTED GROUPS AND INCLUDING

3:34:19 THOSE WITH LEP.

3:34:21 AS MARTIN LUTHER KING REMINDS

3:34:23 US QUOTE INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS

3:34:25 A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.

3:34:27 WHATEVER AFFECTS ONE DIRECTLY

3:34:30 AFFECTS ALL INDIRECTLY.

3:34:33 SO INJUSTICE IN ONE DISTRICT IS

3:34:35 INJUSTICE IN ALL DISTRICTS AND

3:34:37 RESPONSIBILITY OF THE

3:34:39 COUNCIL FOR OVERSIGHT

3:34:40 OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND FAIRNESS

3:34:42 DO NOT STOP AT DISTRICT LINES.

3:34:45 COUNCILOR MURPHY IS NOT HERE.

3:34:46 I WAS GOING TO COMMEND HER FOR

3:34:47 SPEAKING UP AND SPEAKING OUT

3:34:48 FOR EQUALITY IN ROSLINDALE AT

3:34:50 THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.

3:34:52 SO OF COURSE OF COURSE BOSTON'S

3:34:55 HOUSING CRISIS DEMANDS URGENCY

3:34:57 BUT NOT AT THE COST

3:34:59 OF EQUALITY.

3:35:00 I'M LOOKING FORWARD.

3:35:01 COUNCILOR.

3:35:03 UH CULPEPPER APRIL 9TH IS GOING

3:35:04 TO BE THE NEXT SESSION OF THE

3:35:06 CIVIL RIGHTS COMMITTEE HEARING.

3:35:07 I THINK WE SHOULD BE USING

3:35:09 ROSLINDALE AS A CASE STUDY, UM,

3:35:12 TO EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS TO

3:35:14 CIVIL LIBERTIES AND RIGHTS WHEN

3:35:16 THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

3:35:18 PROGRESSES.

3:35:20 SO LET'S REAL FAST.

3:35:22 UH OH.

3:35:22 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

3:35:23 I WANT TO.

3:35:24 FINISH BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE GOT

3:35:25 EXTRA TIME.

3:35:25 I'M GOING TO GO.

3:35:26 UM NO.

3:35:27 I'M SORRY.

3:35:27 FOR TIME WE'LL USE.

3:35:29 AN F H LENS TO EXAMINE THE

3:35:30 HARM CAUSED BY ROSS AND DEALS

3:35:32 REZONING AND TRY TO MITIGATE IT

3:35:33 AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING

3:35:35 AGAIN.

3:35:35 THANK YOU.

3:35:37 THANK YOU SHARON.

3:35:41 THANK YOU.

3:35:43 UM, COUNCILOR WORRELL AND

3:35:46 COUNCIL CULPEPER I'M GOING TO

3:35:47 ALLOW YOU ALL TO GIVE A BRIEF

3:35:49 CLOSING STATEMENT.

3:35:50 UH THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK

3:35:52 YOU TO ALL THE COMMUNITY

3:35:53 PANELISTS AND ALL THE PANELISTS

3:35:54 UH, THAT SHOWED UP TODAY.

3:35:56 UH, THANK YOU TO, UH, THE CHAIR

3:35:58 OF MY CO-SPONSORS, MY

3:35:59 COLLEAGUES, UH, FOR THE GREAT

3:36:01 CONVERSATIONS AND THOSE WHO

3:36:03 PROVIDED PUBLIC REMARKS.

3:36:04 UH, FOR THE RECORD AND UH, JUST

3:36:08 TO THE CHAIR I JUST LOVE TO

3:36:09 CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IN

3:36:10 THE WORK IN SESSION.

3:36:11 I THINK THAT.

3:36:13 WITH THE AMOUNT OF GOALS AND

3:36:16 STRATEGIES, UM.

3:36:18 THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE

3:36:20 CITY OF BOSTON, I THINK IT'S

3:36:22 IMPORTANT THAT WE DIVE INTO NOT

3:36:24 ONLY THE METRICS BUT THE

3:36:25 STATUSES, UM, AND THAT THE

3:36:27 COUNCIL HAS A MORE OF A ROLE

3:36:29 THAN JUST YOU KNOW, THIS

3:36:31 HEARING HERE.

3:36:31 SO I DEFINITELY LOVE TO HAVE,

3:36:33 UH, WORK IN SESSION BY THE END

3:36:35 OF THE YEAR.

3:36:36 UH, TO GET AN UPDATE ON UH A

3:36:37 LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND

3:36:39 STATUSES OF THE STRATEGIES BUT

3:36:40 ALSO UH, THE HIRING, UM, AND

3:36:43 THE APPOINTMENT OF THE

3:36:45 COMMISSION.

3:36:45 UM, THE FIFTH COMMISSION MEMBER

3:36:47 AS WELL.

3:36:47 AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I

3:36:49 WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE ON UH,

3:36:51 THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

3:36:52 SO UM GREAT GREAT CONVERSATION

3:36:55 ,GREAT START.

3:36:56 UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

3:36:58 WE CONTINUE UH, THE ADVOCACY

3:36:59 BUT NOT ONLY THE ADVOCACY BUT

3:37:01 ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND

3:37:02 DIVING INTO THE NUMBERS.

3:37:04 SO THANK YOU AGAIN.

3:37:05 UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO

3:37:06 PARTICIPATED.

3:37:07 THANK YOU COUNCIL AS WELL.

3:37:08 COUNCIL CULPEPER.

3:37:09 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

3:37:11 AND UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE

3:37:13 THAT ATTENDED AND TESTIFIED AND

3:37:16 JUST MADE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN

3:37:18 .

3:37:19 ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAME

3:37:21 CLEAR TO ME IS WE HAVE A LOT

3:37:23 OF WORK TO DO.

3:37:25 I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK

3:37:27 TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY

3:37:29 LAID OUT 108 GOALS 14 GOALS

3:37:34 UNDER THE AF OF AGE AND UH, I

3:37:39 THINK WE ALSO HAVE A LOT

3:37:40 OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS

3:37:42 OF PUTTING TOGETHER A FAIR

3:37:43 HOUSING OFFICE.

3:37:45 THAT ACTUALLY.

3:37:46 CAN HANDLE 108.

3:37:49 UM, AND SO LET ME JUST SAY

3:37:51 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

3:37:53 UH, THE ONE THING THAT

3:37:55 CONTINUES TO BOTHER ME EVERYONE

3:37:57 ASKS WHY ARE PEOPLE MOVING TO

3:37:59 BROCKTON AND RANDOLPH IN TIME?

3:38:02 AND IT'S BECAUSE SECTION EIGHT

3:38:04 HOLDERS THAT ARE TRYING TO RENT

3:38:07 IF YOU LOOK AT THAT 2020 REPORT

3:38:09 HOW RAMPANT DISCRIMINATION IS

3:38:12 WITH REGARD TO 42% OF THEM.

3:38:14 THEY CAN'T RENT HERE.

3:38:16 SO THEY END UP GOING TO TIME OR

3:38:19 BROCKTON WHERE THEY CAN USE

3:38:21 THAT SIX AND EIGHT CERTIFICATE.

3:38:23 SO I HOPE WE CAN DOUBLE DOWN ON

3:38:25 THAT WORK LOOK A LOT CLOSER AND

3:38:28 SECTION EIGHT DISCRIMINATION IN

3:38:30 THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ACTUALLY

3:38:32 DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

3:38:33 THANK YOU.

3:38:33 THANK YOU COUNCILOR CULPEPER.

3:38:36 AND I JUST WANT TO.

3:38:38 END THIS HEARING BY JUST SAYING

3:38:40 THANK YOU.

3:38:42 TO THE PUBLIC TO TO THE.

3:38:43 COMMUNITY WORKERS, TO THE

3:38:45 ORGANIZERS FOR ALL THE WORK

3:38:46 THAT YOU DO.

3:38:47 UM, I'M VERY HONORED OF.

3:38:49 THE WAY THAT THIS HEARING WENT.

3:38:50 IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.

3:38:51 I LEARNED AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT.

3:38:54 TODAY ABOUT.

3:38:55 AS COUNCILOR.

3:38:55 CULPEPER MENTIONED, THE AMOUNT

3:38:57 OF WORK WE HAVE YET TO.

3:38:58 DO IN ORDER TO TRULY ESTABLISH

3:38:59 HOW A LOT OF JUST RESTORATIVE

3:39:03 WORK THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON

3:39:05 RESIDENTS DESERVE.

3:39:06 AND THAT YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT

3:39:07 AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE

3:39:09 .

3:39:09 I WILL MAKE SURE TO KEEP THIS

3:39:12 HEARING IN COMMITTEE SO THAT WE

3:39:14 CAN HAVE A WORKING SESSION IN

3:39:16 THE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND.

3:39:17 GET SOME OF THOSE.

3:39:18 ANSWERS THAT WERE ASKED TODAY

3:39:20 BY MY COLLEAGUES.

3:39:21 SO WITH THIS THIS HEARING ON

3:39:24 DOCKET NUMBER 0695 IS

3:39:28 ADJOURNED.