Housing and Community Development on September 29, 2026
2026-09-29

[0:58] REDEVELOPMENT.
[0:59] TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 29TH,
[1:01] 2026 AND THE EXACT TIME IS
[1:04] 10:38 A.M. THIS HEARING IS
[1:06] BEING RECORDED.
[1:07] IT IS ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED
[1:09] AT BOSTON GOV SLASH CITY
[1:12] COUNCIL TV AND BROADCAST ON
[1:14] INFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN
[1:16] CHANNEL 82 BIOS CHANNEL 964
[1:20] READING COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO
[1:22] THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT KCPT
[1:27] HOUSING@BOSTON.GOV AND WILL BE
[1:28] MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND
[1:29] AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS.
[1:32] PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN
[1:34] DURING THIS HEARING.
[1:35] INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON
[1:36] IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY
[1:38] SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE TWO
[1:39] MINUTES TO TESTIFY.
[1:41] IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN
[1:42] TESTIFYING IN PERSON, PLEASE
[1:44] ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP
[1:46] SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE
[1:47] CHAMBER.
[1:48] IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY
[1:50] VIRTUALLY, PLEASE EMAIL OUR
[1:51] CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON RON COBB
[1:54] AT R O N COBB@BOSTON.GOV FOR
[1:59] THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE
[2:01] ADDED TO THE LIST.
[2:03] TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET
[2:04] NUMBER 0695.
[2:07] ORDER FOR A HEARING ON THE
[2:09] STATUS OF THE IMPLEMENTATION
[2:11] OF THE CITY OF BOSTON
[2:12] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.
[2:14] THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY
[2:17] COUNCILORS BRIAN MORRELL.
[2:18] MANY ARE TO COLE PEPPER AND
[2:20] JULIA MEJIA.
[2:22] IT WAS REFERRED TO THE
[2:23] COMMITTEE ON APRIL 1ST 2026.
[2:27] TODAY I'M JOINED BY MY
[2:29] COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL.
[2:32] COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[2:33] COUNCILOR MURPHY
[2:35] COUNCIL WORRELL
[2:36] COUNCILOR BREADON AND
[2:37] COUNCILOR MEJIA.
[2:42] AT THIS TIME.
[2:43] I'M GOING TO GO DIRECTLY TO
[2:46] INTRODUCTIONS OF THE FIRST
[2:47] PANEL AND THEN I WILL ALLOW MY
[2:51] COLLEAGUES OPENING STATEMENTS
[2:52] AND THEN WE CAN GO INTO Q&A.
[2:54] UM, OKAY, LET'S START OFF WITH
[2:56] MR LINCOLN AND THEN WE CAN WORK
[2:58] DOWN THE LINE IF YOU PLEASE
[2:59] STATE YOUR NAME AND WHICH
[3:01] ORGANIZATION YOU ARE
[3:03] REPRESENTING AND THEN WE WILL
[3:04] START WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
[3:06] SURE.
[3:06] UH GOOD MORNING.
[3:06] MY NAME.
[3:07] IS LINCOLN AND I'M A BOSTON
[3:09] TENANT COALITION AND THE
[3:10] COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
[3:11] FOR AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THEM FOR
[3:12] HOUSING.
[3:13] THANK YOU.
[3:14] UH.
[3:15] JAMES DANIELS.
[3:16] PROFESSOR EMERITUS AT TUFTS
[3:17] UNIVERSITY AND A MEMBER OF THE
[3:19] COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
[3:21] I'M NADEEN COHEN.
[3:22] I'M A MEMBER OF THE COMMUNITY
[3:25] ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE
[3:26] MONITORING COMMITTEE AND A LONG
[3:28] TIME FAIR HOUSING ATTORNEY AND
[3:31] ADVOCATE.
[3:31] HOW ARE YOU DOING?
[3:32] OUR MONTE WHITE.
[3:33] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AT RECLAIM
[3:34] ROXBURY, ALSO A MEMBER OF THE
[3:36] COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
[3:37] AND THE UH, MONITOR TO ME.
[3:38] THANK YOU.
[3:39] YEAH.
[3:43] OKAY.
[3:44] UM, AND AT THIS TIME I JUST
[3:45] WANT TO GIVE THE SPONSOR
[3:47] OF THIS HEARING COUNCIL ROWE AN
[3:48] OPPORTUNITY TO ALSO GIVE A
[3:49] BRIEF OPENING REMARKS BEFORE
[3:51] THE PRESENTATION.
[3:52] UH THANK YOU CHAIR.
[3:53] THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES.
[3:55] THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.
[3:56] UH, FOR ALL YOUR WORK IN THIS
[3:57] SPACE AND ALSO TO THE, UH,
[3:59] ADVOCATES, UH, THAT ARE SEATED
[4:01] UM, RIGHT BEHIND UH, THE GROUP
[4:04] OF ADVOCATES.
[4:05] UM.
[4:05] I KNOW.
[4:06] WE'VE HAD SEVERAL HEARINGS
[4:07] ON THIS TOPIC.
[4:07] UH, MANY REQUESTS FOR
[4:08] INFORMATION WHICH SHOULD TELL
[4:10] US HOW CRUCIAL THE WORK OF FAIR
[4:12] HOUSING IS TO ALL OF US IN THIS
[4:13] ROOM AND TO ALL OUR RESIDENTS.
[4:15] UH, SO I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF
[4:16] BECAUSE WE HAVE A GROUP
[4:17] OF ADVOCATES RIGHT IN FRONT
[4:18] OF US AND COMMUNITY LEADERS WHO
[4:20] JOINED US HERE TODAY WITH A LOT
[4:21] OF IMPORTANT INFORMATION TO
[4:22] SHARE.
[4:23] SO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
[4:25] FOR YOUR WORK.
[4:25] LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING AND
[4:26] DIVING INTO THE CONVERSATION.
[4:28] I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT
[4:30] TO STACY, UH, MY POLICY
[4:32] DIRECTOR WHO'S BEEN WORKING
[4:33] WITH UH, OUR PANELISTS AND OUR
[4:35] COMMUNITY LEADERS, UM, AROUND
[4:36] FAIR HOUSING AND PULLING THIS,
[4:38] UH, HEARING TOGETHER.
[4:40] SO BIG SHOUT OUT TO STACY.
[4:41] THANK YOU.
[4:42] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WORRELL.
[4:44] JUST ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
[4:45] THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY
[4:46] COUNCILOR WEBER AND NOW AND
[4:48] ALSO FOR THE AUDIENCE.
[4:50] FIRST WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM
[4:51] AN AMAZING COMMUNITY PANEL ON
[4:52] ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
[4:53] AND THEN SECOND PANEL WILL
[4:55] CONSIST OF THE AMAZING CITY
[4:56] TEAM AS WELL.
[4:57] SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT.
[4:59] OKAY.
[5:00] IT WAS YOURS.
[5:02] THANK YOU.
[5:03] GOOD MORNING.
[5:04] UM FOLKS.
[5:04] UH I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
[5:05] FOR BEING HERE.
[5:06] I AM GOING TO START THE PANEL
[5:07] BY GIVING A BRIEF HISTORY.
[5:08] OF THE, UH, THE CAC.
[5:10] SO, UM.
[5:12] YOU KNOW THE CAC BEGAN.
[5:15] IN 20.
[5:15] IN 2016.
[5:16] AND AND THE WORK I'M GOING TO
[5:17] TALK ABOUT REALLY CONTINUED
[5:18] THROUGH UM, 2022 AND ADOPTED.
[5:21] THE UM ASSESSMENT OF FAIR
[5:22] HOUSING.
[5:24] SO UH.
[5:25] 2015 UM THERE'S A UH FH ABOUT A
[5:28] RULE.
[5:29] WHICH REALLY.
[5:29] CODIFIED SOME OF THE UM, UH,
[5:31] FAIR HOUSING IN TERMS OF UM.
[5:33] HAVING A DISTINCT ASSESSMENT
[5:34] OF FAIR HOUSING AND SOME REAL
[5:35] TOOLS AROUND HOW.
[5:36] TO HOW TO ACTUALLY UM, MAKE.
[5:38] UP FOR SOME REAL TOOLS.
[5:39] INTO UM HOW.
[5:40] CITIES ACTUALLY DETERMINED.
[5:42] AND ASSESSED.
[5:44] THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE
[5:45] WORK.
[5:45] TO FURTHER FAIR HOUSING.
[5:48] SO UM.
[5:48] IN 2016.
[5:49] MAYOR WALSH UH.
[5:50] ASSEMBLED A.
[5:51] A GROUP OF COMMUNITY ADVOCATES
[5:54] TO.
[5:54] HELP.
[5:54] THE CITY, UH.
[5:55] WORK ON THE DRAFTING, UM AND
[5:57] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.
[5:58] AND SO, UH, ORAL REALLY WAS TO
[6:00] REPRESENT THE CITY AND HELP
[6:02] THE.
[6:02] CITY IN THE DRAFT.
[6:04] UM.
[6:04] THIS.
[6:05] BODY EVENTUALLY.
[6:05] BECAME THE BODY YOU SEE TODAY,
[6:07] WHICH IS THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY
[6:08] COMMITTEE.
[6:08] FOR AFFIRMATIVELY FOR THE
[6:09] FAIR HOUSING.
[6:11] SO THIS IS A THIS REALLY WAS A.
[6:12] CLASSIC EXAMPLE.
[6:13] OF OF A CITY COMING INTO
[6:14] PARTNERSHIP.
[6:15] THE THE CITY.
[6:16] COMPONENT UM CONSISTED.
[6:17] OF UH.
[6:18] UM SHEILA DILLON FROM THEN THE
[6:20] AND AND UM MAYOR'S OFFICE
[6:21] OF HOUSING.
[6:23] UM OFFICE OF.
[6:24] FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.
[6:26] UH BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND
[6:27] BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH
[6:28] COMMISSION.
[6:28] I THINK LATER ON IN THE PROCESS
[6:30] OTHER.
[6:30] OTHER UM DEPARTMENTS.
[6:31] JOINED IN.
[6:32] BUT THOSE WERE THE INITIAL
[6:33] INITIAL TEAMS.
[6:33] THAT REALLY FORMED.
[6:35] UH THE THE INITIATIVE.
[6:37] TO DRAFT AND.
[6:38] THE CAC WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE
[6:41] AN ANCHORED.
[6:41] BY BOSTON TALENT COALITION.
[6:42] WHICH IS LED BY.
[6:43] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR KATHY BROWN
[6:45] .
[6:45] THIS THIS CAC ALSO.
[6:47] INCLUDES OR HAS INCLUDED
[6:48] ROXBURY NEIGHBOR COUNCIL,
[6:51] CHARLES HAMILTON.
[6:51] HOUSTON INSTITUTE OF RACE AND
[6:54] JUSTICE.
[6:54] LED BY DAVID HARRIS OF HARVARD
[6:56] UNIVERSITY, GREATER BOSTON
[6:57] LEGAL SERVICES ALTERNATIVES FOR
[6:59] COMMUNITY.
[6:59] AND ENVIRONMENT TO RECLAIM
[7:00] ROXBURY HIGHER GROUND ON THE
[7:01] FAMILY.
[7:02] LAWYERS COMMITTEE.
[7:03] UH, IF YOU'RE IN THE CENTER
[7:05] OF GREATER BOSTON.
[7:05] THEY DIDN'T COIN A.
[7:07] MERIDA OF BOSTON LEGAL SERVICES
[7:08] AND PROFESSOR JAMES UH JENNINGS
[7:10] UH EMERITUS PROFESSOR UH MERIDA
[7:13] STUFF UH.
[7:15] TUFTS UNIVERSITY.
[7:16] SO PART OF THE ENGAGEMENT.
[7:18] WHAT WE.
[7:19] DID WAS.
[7:19] WE WANTED TO.
[7:20] ENSURE THAT THE APPROACH WAS
[7:22] INFORMED BY PEOPLE.
[7:23] UM, IMPACTED.
[7:26] BY THE.
[7:26] STRUGGLES AND CHALLENGES OF OF
[7:27] UH OF UM A FAIR HOUSING.
[7:30] SO IN THAT.
[7:30] EFFORT UM THROUGH.
[7:32] BOSTON TALENT COALITION WE
[7:33] ORGANIZED 14.
[7:35] UH.
[7:35] COMMITTEE MEETINGS WITH 35
[7:37] OTHER UH CBOS AND COMMUNITY
[7:38] PARTNERS TO.
[7:40] REALLY GET.
[7:40] INPUT AND FEEDBACK.
[7:41] FROM COMMUNITIES RELATIVE TO
[7:42] WHAT WHAT THEIR EXPERIENCES AND
[7:43] EXPERIENCES WERE.
[7:44] AROUND A FAIR HOUSING.
[7:46] UM, SO.
[7:47] THERE'S 14 MEETINGS.
[7:48] WE HAD ABOUT 500 ATTENDEES.
[7:50] UM.
[7:51] THE THE FORMAT WAS.
[7:53] DESIGNED AROUND UH.
[7:54] A SURVEY THAT.
[7:55] REALLY KIND OF TEASED OUT.
[7:56] SOME OF THE FAIR HOUSING
[7:57] CONCERNS.
[7:57] AND PROVIDE AN OPPORTUNITY TO
[7:59] TALK THROUGH WHAT WAS GOING ON.
[8:00] SO WE HAD THOSE SURVEYS.
[8:01] ,500 SURVEYS THAT UM.
[8:02] BOTH THE.
[8:03] BOSTON UH HOUSING AUTHORITY
[8:05] ALSO.
[8:05] FROM THEIR.
[8:06] CONSTITUENTS UM GENERATED TWO.
[8:07] UH 2000 SURVEYS.
[8:09] SO UH WE WERE ABLE TO
[8:11] TRANSCRIBE.
[8:12] THE INFORMATION FROM THE
[8:13] SURVEYS.
[8:14] AND THAT DATA UM, INFORMED.
[8:18] THE THE A AT.
[8:19] THE PAGE AND WHAT I MEAN BY
[8:20] THAT THAT THAT INFORMED THE F
[8:22] H.
[8:22] IS THAT IT WAS REALLY IMPORTANT
[8:24] FOR US THAT.
[8:25] THE POLICIES THAT.
[8:27] CAME OUT.
[8:27] AT THE PACE.
[8:28] WAS REALLY DRIVEN BY PEOPLE
[8:30] .
[8:30] MOST IMPACTED BY IT AND ALSO
[8:32] WANTED TO KIND OF RECOGNIZE
[8:33] PROFESSOR JAMES.
[8:34] HIS RIGHT HERE WHO WAS.
[8:35] INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING THE
[8:36] CITY CRAFT AND DRAFT THAT UH
[8:38] THAT.
[8:38] THAT A F.
[8:40] H AND UM THE.
[8:42] REASON THAT WAS PARTICULARLY
[8:43] IMPORTANT IS THAT JAMES REALLY.
[8:44] FOCUSED ON AND PRIORITIZING.
[8:46] THIS COMMUNITY.
[8:47] COMMUNITY GENERATED DATA.
[8:48] SO AND THAT'S A REALLY.
[8:50] CRITICAL ASPECT.
[8:50] OF THE PAGE.
[8:52] SO UM I ALSO WANT TO WANT TO
[8:54] RECOGNIZE NAMES UH CANDY
[8:55] CARDENAS PASS FROM.
[8:57] UH BTC.
[8:58] BOSTON TALENT COALITION.
[8:59] WHO DID ALL THE TRANSCRIBING
[9:02] OF 2500 UM SURVEYS.
[9:03] IT'S A LOT.
[9:04] OF WORK.
[9:04] UH, SO UM.
[9:05] SHOUT OUT TO CANDACE.
[9:06] UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME.
[9:08] INSTEAD OF GOING.
[9:08] OVER A LOT MORE DETAILS ALL
[9:11] THIS FOCUS ON SOME.
[9:11] HIGHLIGHTS UM.
[9:12] FROM THE CAC.
[9:13] SO WITH UH.
[9:16] SO IN THE SPRING.
[9:16] AND SUMMER OF 2017.
[9:18] WE TALKED ABOUT THE 14
[9:20] COMMUNITY MEETINGS.
[9:22] UM WE ALSO HAD A.
[9:23] VIRTUAL TOWN HALL IN 2020 TO.
[9:24] REPORT BACK TO THE COMMUNITY
[9:26] AND THE WORK THAT THE CAC HAD
[9:27] BEEN DOING.
[9:28] AND WORKING WITH THE CITY ON
[9:29] AS WE KIND OF MOVE.
[9:30] FORWARD TO.
[9:31] UM, DRAFT AND A FINAL A FINAL
[9:33] EFFORT AT THAT WHICH UM
[9:37] DECEMBER 9TH.
[9:38] 2020 WAS A.
[9:39] UNANIMOUS DECISION BY THE.
[9:40] CITY COUNCIL.
[9:41] TO UH.
[9:42] TO AMEND THE ZONING AMENDMENT.
[9:44] TO INCLUDE UH FAIR.
[9:45] HOUSING AND ANTI DISPLACEMENT
[9:46] LANGUAGE.
[9:46] REALLY THIS WAS REALLY WAS THE
[9:48] FIRST UH THE FIRST.
[9:49] IN THE NATION SUCH.
[9:51] UM LEGISLATION UM EFFORT.
[9:52] SO THAT WAS ARE.
[9:54] REALLY AND ALSO THE THE ZONING
[9:55] AMENDMENT WAS REALLY.
[9:57] GOAL 7.1 OF THE F EIGHT.
[9:59] SO IT.
[10:00] REALLY WAS AN OPPORTUNITY.
[10:01] FOR THE.
[10:02] COMMUNITY AND CITY.
[10:03] LEGISLATOR TO KIND OF.
[10:05] WORK TOWARDS A COMMON GOAL.
[10:07] AND THAT.
[10:08] WAS UH FULFILLED.
[10:09] BY THE UNANIMOUS PASSING
[10:10] OF THE ZONING AMENDMENT.
[10:15] UM AUGUST 6TH, 2021 THE CAC
[10:16] SENT A FAIR HOUSING.
[10:17] QUESTIONNAIRE TO UH THE FIVE.
[10:19] CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR MAYOR
[10:20] AFTER UM UH MAYOR WASSERMAN TO
[10:22] WASHINGTON UM TO UM.
[10:25] FIVE OF.
[10:26] THE COUNCILS RESPONDED.
[10:29] UM, TWO OF THEM.
[10:30] ACTUALLY RESPONDED CENTER
[10:32] RECEIVED THE SURVEY, THE
[10:33] QUESTIONNAIRE.
[10:34] THE TWO FINAL UH CANDIDATES UH.
[10:37] COUNCIL SABI GEORGE.
[10:37] AND UM AND COUNCILOR.
[10:39] WU ACTUALLY RESPONDED IN DETAIL
[10:42] AND MAYOR WHO ACTUALLY AS A
[10:45] CANDIDATE COMMITTED.
[10:45] TO TO ADOPTING THE A F H BY
[10:48] EXECUTIVE ORDER SHOULD SHE.
[10:50] UM WIN TO WIN THE UH.
[10:52] MAYOR'S RACE BUT SHE DID.
[10:53] IN FACT DO WITHIN THREE
[10:54] MONTHS ACTUALLY LESS THAN THREE
[10:55] MONTHS UP OUR ADMINISTRATION.
[10:59] THE THE.
[11:02] THE UM A.
[11:04] F A PAGE ALSO INCLUDED AN.
[11:06] EXECUTIVE ORDER DRAFTED.
[11:07] BY THE CAC THAT.
[11:08] THAT THAT BUILT.
[11:09] INTO A MONITORING COMMITTEE
[11:10] TO TO UH TO MONITOR.
[11:12] THE PROGRESS OF THE.
[11:14] UM AT THE F H AND THE.
[11:16] LAST THING I WANT TO FOCUS
[11:17] ON IT WAS.
[11:18] PART OF UH.
[11:19] GO 7.1 WAS.
[11:20] UH BP WHEN AN.
[11:22] AUDIT OF THE BPD.
[11:23] PLANNING OFFICE.
[11:24] IN TERMS OF THEIR FAIR.
[11:25] HOUSING POLICIES AND HAPPY TO
[11:28] UM, JUST ANNOUNCED THAT.
[11:30] THE THE BPD DID IN.
[11:32] FACT HIRE CONSULTANT AND IS
[11:33] CURRENTLY WORKING ON AND
[11:35] COMPLETED THAT AUDIT.
[11:36] UM SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES MADE
[11:37] ME ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THAT IN.
[11:38] THE TALKING POINTS.
[11:39] BUT UM THE LAST.
[11:40] ONE I.
[11:41] WILL SAY.
[11:41] THIS THE CAC AND THE CITY.
[11:43] PARTNERSHIP IN MY IN MY VIEW.
[11:44] WAS A CLASSIC.
[11:45] TEXTBOOK UM, EXAMPLE.
[11:47] OF THE.
[11:47] VALUE OF HAVING A COMMUNITY.
[11:50] AND.
[11:51] A CITY PARTNERSHIP.
[11:52] UH THANK YOU.
[11:53] THANK YOU.
[11:55] WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[11:56] UH, LINKING.
[11:57] FOR THAT, UH.
[11:59] CONCISE HISTORY.
[12:00] THANK YOU.
[12:01] A LOT OF PIECES.
[12:01] THAT YOU.
[12:02] DIDN'T TOUCH UPON BUT BUT
[12:03] YOU.
[12:04] PROVIDED A REALLY.
[12:04] IMPORTANT FRAMEWORK.
[12:06] UH, MY ROLE TODAY IS TO.
[12:08] HIGHLIGHT A FEW BOSTON
[12:09] VICTORIES REGARDING.
[12:10] FAIR HOUSING.
[12:11] BUT ALSO MENTIONED BRIEFLY
[12:14] CONTINUING AND CURRENT.
[12:15] CHALLENGES FACING AFFIRMATIVELY
[12:17] FURTHERING.
[12:17] FAIR HOUSING.
[12:18] IN THE CITY.
[12:19] THE ADOPTION OF THE BOSTON
[12:21] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING IN
[12:23] 2022, AS LINCOLN MENTIONED, IS
[12:25] AN IMPORTANT VICTORY FOR THE
[12:26] CITY IN MASSACHUSETTS.
[12:28] A FH WAS BASED ON A
[12:30] COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF SOCIAL
[12:32] ,ECONOMIC AND RACIAL
[12:34] DISPARITIES AND HOW THEY SHOULD
[12:35] BE ADDRESSED WHEN USING A FAIR
[12:37] HOUSING LENS AS REQUIRED BY LAW
[12:40] .
[12:40] AND SUPPORTED CONSTITUTIONALLY
[12:43] BY NUMEROUS COURTS AND US
[12:44] SUPREME COURT DECISIONS
[12:46] BEGINNING WITH THE JONES
[12:47] DECISION IN 1968 AND THE
[12:49] ONTARIO DECISION IN 1973 AND
[12:52] OTHER JUDICIAL.
[12:53] DECISIONS SINCE.
[12:55] THE OFFICIAL ADOPTION OF FH.
[12:58] WAS IN LARGE PART.
[12:59] A RESULT OF EXTENSIVE COMMUNITY
[13:01] ORGANIZING THROUGHOUT BOSTON
[13:03] SPEARHEADED BY THE CAC AND
[13:05] OTHERS, MANY COMMUNITY BASED
[13:06] ORGANIZATIONS, HOUSING.
[13:08] ACTIVISTS AND ESPECIALLY THE
[13:09] BOSTON TENANTS COALITION AND
[13:11] THE CAC CONTRIBUTED TO THE
[13:13] INITIATION AND.
[13:14] COMPLETION OF THE FH.
[13:17] AS WE KNOW, THE ADOPTION
[13:19] OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[13:20] FAIR HOUSING INTO BOSTON'S
[13:22] ZONING CODE WAS YET ANOTHER
[13:24] MAJOR VICTORY AND MOVED THE
[13:25] CITY CLOSER TO A.
[13:27] STRONGER AND.
[13:28] COMPREHENSIVE FAIR HOUSING
[13:29] MONITORING AND ENFORCEMENT IN
[13:32] IN 2019, THEN CITY
[13:34] COUNCILOR LYDIA EDWARDS
[13:36] INTRODUCED AN AMENDMENT TO
[13:38] INCORPORATE FAIR HOUSING INTO
[13:39] THE CITY'S ZONING CODE.
[13:42] SUBSEQUENTLY, THIS STRATEGY WAS
[13:43] ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND
[13:45] ENDORSED BY MAIL WASH.
[13:47] UH IN 2021, THE HIGHLY
[13:49] RECOGNIZED SHELTER FORCE
[13:51] MAGAZINE UH PUBLISHED A
[13:53] NATIONAL STORY ABOUT THIS
[13:55] VICTORY, DESCRIBING BOSTON AS
[13:57] THE FIRST MAJOR CITY TO DO SO
[14:00] THAT IS CONJOINING ZONING AND
[14:03] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[14:04] HOUSING.
[14:07] IN JANUARY 2022, MAYOR WHO
[14:08] ISSUE AN HISTORICALLY
[14:09] SIGNIFICANT EXECUTIVE ORDER AS
[14:11] YOU MENTIONED LINKING AN
[14:13] EXECUTIVE ORDER RELATIVE TO
[14:14] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[14:15] HOUSING AND THE IMPLEMENTATION
[14:18] OF THE CITY OF BOSTON'S
[14:20] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING.
[14:21] THIS EO ESTABLISH A MODERATING
[14:24] COMMITTEE CHARGED WITH MEETING
[14:26] QUARTERLY WITH CITY AGENCIES TO
[14:28] REVIEW PROGRESS OR LACK
[14:29] OF PROGRESS IN THE
[14:31] IMPLEMENTATION OF THE 14 GOALS
[14:33] OUTLINED IN THE ADOPTED FH.
[14:35] THIS WAS A REMARKABLE
[14:37] ACHIEVEMENT GIVEN THAT IN AN
[14:39] HISTORICALLY HIGHLY SEGREGATED
[14:40] SEGREGATED CITY.
[14:41] ITS ZONING.
[14:42] CODES AND REGULATIONS WERE
[14:44] DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED
[14:46] WITHOUT ANY MENTION OF FAIR
[14:48] HOUSING OBLIGATIONS WHATSOEVER.
[14:50] OVER MANY DECADES SINCE THE
[14:52] FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968.
[14:55] IN JUNE 2025 THE BOSTON CITY
[14:58] COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED ONE
[14:59] MEMBER ABSENT A RESOLUTION
[15:01] ENDORSING AFFIRMATIVELY
[15:03] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.
[15:04] THIS REPRESENTED ANOTHER
[15:07] SIGNIFICANT TURNING POINT IN
[15:09] BOSTON.
[15:09] IT WAS THE BOSTON CITY
[15:11] COUNCIL'S STRONG AFFIRMATION
[15:13] ABOUT THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT
[15:15] ADVANCING AFFIRMATIVELY
[15:16] FURTHERING FOR HOUSING IS FOR
[15:18] THE CITY.
[15:19] VERY IMPORTANTLY, IT ALSO
[15:20] STRENGTHENED THE CORE FOR
[15:22] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[15:23] HOUSING DURING A PERIOD
[15:25] OF RETREAT ON THE PART OF THE
[15:27] CURRENT NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION
[15:29] .
[15:29] PERHAPS THE MOST IMPORTANT
[15:31] VICTORY FOR FAIR HOUSING,
[15:32] HOWEVER, IS THE GREATER PUBLIC
[15:35] AWARENESS TODAY ABOUT WHAT FAIR
[15:36] HOUSING IS INCLUDING ITS INTO
[15:39] SECTORAL IMPLICATIONS.
[15:41] MORE ORGANIZATIONS AND
[15:42] RESIDENTS ARE ASKING WHAT THE
[15:45] FAIR HOUSING IMPLICATIONS
[15:47] OF POLICIES AND DECISIONS ARE
[15:49] ACROSS MULTIPLE AREAS INCLUDING
[15:51] TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC HEALTH,
[15:53] THE ENVIRONMENT, BUSINESS AND
[15:55] ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
[15:57] DESPITE THESE VICTORIES, THERE
[15:58] ARE STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES THAT
[16:00] MUST BE CONTINUED TO BE
[16:01] ADDRESSED TO ENSURE THAT
[16:02] EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO DECENT
[16:04] AND SUSTAINED AFFORDABLE
[16:07] HOUSING AND NOT SUFFER FROM
[16:08] HOUSING INSECURITY.
[16:09] HIGH INTEREST RATES,
[16:11] CONSTRUCTION COST, THE SUPPLY
[16:13] OF HOUSING, HIGH HOUSING COST
[16:15] AND THE INSECURE ECONOMIC
[16:17] SITUATION FACING THOUSANDS
[16:19] OF BOSTON FAMILIES EXACERBATE
[16:22] BOSTON'S DEEP HOUSING
[16:23] AFFORDABILITY CRISIS.
[16:25] AS I MENTIONED IN MY MARCH 6TH,
[16:27] 2026 TESTIMONY TO THIS BODY'S
[16:29] COMMITTEE ON CIVIL RIGHTS,
[16:30] RACIAL EQUALITY AND IMMIGRANT
[16:32] ADVANCEMENT, LARGE PROPORTIONS
[16:34] OF HOUSEHOLDS ARE SEVERELY
[16:37] HOUSING COST BURDEN AND SPEND
[16:39] 50% OR MORE OF ANNUAL INCOME ON
[16:41] HOUSING.
[16:43] APPROXIMATELY 30% OF RENTER
[16:44] BLACK HOUSEHOLDS SPEND MORE
[16:46] THAN HALF OF THEIR INCOME ON
[16:47] HOUSING COSTS.
[16:49] THE FIGURE FOR ASIAN HOUSEHOLDS
[16:51] IS 24%, ALMOST 25% FOR LATINO
[16:54] OR LATINO RENTERS AND 19% FOR
[16:56] WHITES.
[16:57] ANOTHER DEMOGRAPHIC GROUP WHO
[16:59] WOULD SEE CONSIDERABLY LESS
[17:01] ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE AND DECENT
[17:03] AND DECENT HOUSING.
[17:04] ABSENT CONTINUING STRONG
[17:06] COMMITMENT TO AFFIRMATIVELY
[17:07] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING ARE THE
[17:09] THOUSANDS OF BOSTONIANS WHO
[17:11] LIVE UNDER THE OFFICIAL.
[17:13] FEDERAL POVERTY GUIDELINES.
[17:16] AS WE PURSUE ECONOMIC
[17:17] DEVELOPMENT AND STRATEGIES TO
[17:19] RESPOND TO THE CITY'S HOUSING
[17:20] CRISIS, WE CANNOT FORGET THAT
[17:23] THESE ARE THE PEOPLE AND
[17:24] FAMILIES WHO WOULD BE LEFT OUT
[17:26] OF DECENT AND AFFORDABLE
[17:27] HOUSING.
[17:28] ABSENT A STRONG AFFIRMATIVELY
[17:30] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING LENS,
[17:32] THESE KINDS OF CHALLENGES MUST
[17:34] BE ADDRESSED.
[17:34] WITHOUT THIS, WITHOUT
[17:36] SACRIFICING THE MOMENTUM THAT
[17:38] WE HAVE TAPPED.
[17:39] THUS FAR.
[17:41] SADLY, AS THE CITY SEEKS TO
[17:43] RESPOND TO THESE KINDS
[17:44] OF CHALLENGES POLITICAL AND
[17:46] IDEOLOGICAL ATTACKS AIMED AT
[17:48] WEAKENING FURTHERING FAIR.
[17:49] HOUSING HAVE EMERGED FROM THE
[17:51] CURRENT NATIONAL ADMINISTRATION
[17:53] UNDER THE TRUMP
[17:54] ADMINISTRATION'S APRIL 2025
[17:56] EXECUTIVE ORDER 14 TO 81
[17:59] RESTORING RESTORING EQUALITY
[18:02] OF OPPORTUNITY AND MERITOCRACY.
[18:04] HUD HAS SOUGHT TO WEAKEN A
[18:07] WEAKEN A CRITICAL TOOL
[18:09] OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[18:10] FAIR HOUSING AND DISPARATE
[18:11] IMPACT.
[18:12] THIS ACTION REPRESENTS A BOLD
[18:15] VIOLATION OF NUMEROUS JUDICIARY
[18:17] AND U.S. SUPREME COURT
[18:18] DECISIONS OVER DECADES, AND IN
[18:22] SEPTEMBER 2025, HUD ATTEMPTED
[18:23] TO WEAKEN THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[18:25] HOUSING AND EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
[18:27] ENFORCEMENT AND REGULATIONS
[18:28] THAT ARE AIMED AT PROTECTING
[18:30] AGAINST UNINTENTIONAL BUT REAL
[18:31] AND IMPACTFUL DISCRIMINATION.
[18:34] IT SOUGHT TO NARROW THE
[18:35] ENFORCEMENT PURVIEW OF THIS
[18:37] AGENCY AND DRASTICALLY CUT
[18:39] FUNDING.
[18:40] IT CAUSED A WEAKENING
[18:41] OF SUPPORT FOR PROTECTIONS
[18:42] TOUCHING LIMITED ENGLISH
[18:44] PROFICIENCY, CRIMINAL HISTORY
[18:45] AND TENANT SELECTION AND SOURCE
[18:47] OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION.
[18:49] BOSTON MUST CONTINUE TO FIGHT
[18:50] BACK LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY.
[18:52] WE HAVE ALREADY WON KEY
[18:54] VICTORIES IN RESPONSE TO THESE
[18:56] IDEOLOGICAL, POLITICALLY AND
[18:58] EVEN RACIST ATTACKS.
[19:00] IN MARCH 2026 SIX FOR EXAMPLE,
[19:04] IN MARCH 20TH 2616 STATES SUED
[19:05] HUD'S PROPOSED CHANGES AIMED AT
[19:07] WEAKENING THE FAIR HOUSING
[19:09] PROGRAM JUST A FEW WEEKS AGO,
[19:11] COURT COMPLETELY WITHDREW ITS
[19:14] ONEROUS PROPOSALS BECAUSE
[19:15] OF THIS LEGAL SUIT.
[19:16] AS NOTED IN THE PRESS RELEASE
[19:18] BY THE MASSACHUSETTS OFFICE
[19:19] OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL ON NINE
[19:22] 926 QUOTE FACED WITH THE
[19:24] LITIGATION, THE TRUMP
[19:26] ADMINISTRATION HAS CONFIRMED
[19:27] THAT IT NO LONGER SEEKS TO
[19:29] IMPOSE, IMPLEMENT OR ENFORCE
[19:31] THE CHALLENGED CONDITIONS IN
[19:32] THE FUTURE AND THAT OF THE
[19:34] FISCAL YEAR 2025 GUIDANCE UP
[19:37] BUT ALSO CONFIRMED THE
[19:39] CONDITIONS WILL NOT APPLY TO
[19:41] FISCAL YEAR 2026 FUNDING AND
[19:43] THAT HUD DOES NOT PLAN TO
[19:44] INCLUDE THEM IN FUTURE GUIDANCE
[19:46] AND OF QUOTE, WE SHOULD TAKE
[19:48] STOCK OF HOW OTHER CITIES
[19:50] ACROSS THE NATION ARE ALSO
[19:52] FIGHTING EFFORTS TO DESTROY THE
[19:54] SOCIAL AND RACIAL PROGRESS THAT
[19:55] NOT JUST THE CITY HAS BEEN
[19:57] MAKING BUT ALSO THE ENTIRE
[19:59] COUNTRY.
[19:59] SO LET ME STOP THERE.
[20:01] THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AGAIN
[20:02] IN ALLOWING ME TO MAKE THESE
[20:03] COMMENTS.
[20:04] AND MY COLLEAGUES MAY HAVE MORE
[20:06] SPECIFICS ABOUT SOME OF THE
[20:08] ACTIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN
[20:09] DISCUSSING.
[20:11] THANK YOU JAMES.
[20:12] I'M NADEEN COHEN, A MEMBER
[20:15] OF THE CAC AND THE MONITORING
[20:17] COMMITTEE AND I WANT TO THANK
[20:20] COUNCILOR WORRELL AND OTHERS
[20:21] FOR ORGANIZING THIS REALLY
[20:23] IMPORTANT HEARING AND THANKING
[20:24] ALL THE COUNCILORS FOR
[20:27] ATTENDING.
[20:27] I WILL FOCUS ON WHAT SPECIFIC
[20:30] STEPS THE CAC RECOMMENDS THE
[20:33] CITY SHOULD BE TAKING TO ENSURE
[20:36] IT COMPLIES WITH ITS FAIR
[20:37] HOUSING OBLIGATIONS UNDER STATE
[20:39] AND FEDERAL LAW UNDER MAYOR
[20:42] WU'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
[20:44] UNDER THIS COUNCIL'S
[20:46] RESOLUTIONS AND UNDER THE
[20:48] CITY'S ZONING CODE.
[20:50] BUT BEFORE I BEGIN, I WANT TO
[20:52] VERY BRIEFLY REMIND US THAT THE
[20:55] CITY OF BOSTON'S FAIR HOUSING
[20:57] COMMISSION WAS ORDERED BY THE
[20:59] FEDERAL COURT IN THE CASE THAT
[21:02] THE NAACP BROUGHT AGAINST HUD
[21:05] IN THE 1980S TO PROVIDE
[21:09] EFFECTIVE FAIR HOUSING
[21:11] ENFORCEMENT TO RESIDENTS OF THE
[21:13] CITY.
[21:14] IN THAT CASE, HUD WAS FOUND TO
[21:16] HAVE FAILED TO MEET ITS DUTY TO
[21:20] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR
[21:22] HOUSING BY FAILING TO ENSURE
[21:25] THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON
[21:28] COMPLIED WITH ITS FAIR HOUSING
[21:31] OBLIGATIONS.
[21:31] THE CITY OF BOSTON'S FAIR
[21:33] HOUSING COMMISSION WAS
[21:35] EXPLICITLY REQUIRED TO ENFORCE
[21:37] FAIR HOUSING LAWS, MAINTAIN A
[21:40] ROBUST COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION
[21:42] SYSTEM AND CONDUCT A MINORITY
[21:45] NEEDS ASSESSMENT AND IDENTIFY
[21:48] BARRIERS TO HOUSING FACED BY
[21:51] MINORITY HOUSEHOLDS.
[21:52] IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND
[21:54] THAT WE ARE PART OF A LONG
[21:57] HISTORY OF TRYING TO ENSURE
[21:59] THAT PEOPLE OF COLOR HAVE EQUAL
[22:01] HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT
[22:03] THE CITY AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERS
[22:05] FAIR HOUSING IN ALL OF ITS
[22:08] PROGRAMS, POLICIES AND
[22:10] DECISIONS.
[22:12] SO WHAT THE COMMUNITY ADVISORY
[22:15] COMMITTEE ON AFFIRMATIVELY
[22:17] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING WOULD
[22:18] LIKE TO SEE THE CITY DO IS ONE
[22:22] RESUME THE EQUITY AUDIT THAT'S
[22:26] REQUIRED UNDER THE ASSESSMENT
[22:27] OF FAIR HOUSING.
[22:29] WITHOUT THIS WE DO NOT CLEARLY
[22:31] KNOW WHAT THE CURRENT FAIR
[22:33] HOUSING NEEDS ARE AND HOW WELL
[22:36] THE CITY IS DOING IN MEETING
[22:38] THOSE NEEDS.
[22:39] AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT WE
[22:41] DO APPRECIATE THAT THE CITY IS
[22:43] IN A TOUGH SPOT BECAUSE OF THE
[22:45] HUD INVESTIGATION, BUT WE
[22:48] REALLY THINK PLANS HAVE TO BE
[22:50] MADE TO RESTART UH, THE EQUITY
[22:53] AUDIT THAT WAS BEGUN.
[22:55] WE ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
[22:57] CITY FILL THE POSITION OF THE
[22:59] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE
[23:01] OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND
[23:02] EQUITY.
[23:03] THIS POSITION HAS BEEN VACANT
[23:06] SINCE THE UNTIMELY DEATH OF BOB
[23:09] TERRELL IN JANUARY 2025.
[23:13] THERE ARE ALSO OTHER LONG
[23:15] STANDING VACANCIES AT THE FAIR
[23:18] HOUSING LAW OFFICE, INCLUDING
[23:19] THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATION AND
[23:22] OUTREACH AND A POLICY A PUBLIC
[23:24] POLICY MANAGER WHO WOULD BE THE
[23:27] PERSON IN CHARGE
[23:28] OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[23:30] FAIR HOUSING WORK.
[23:31] THE OFFICE NEEDS A DEDICATED
[23:34] POLICY PERSON WHO WILL BE
[23:37] PROACTIVE.
[23:38] WE'RE CONCERNED THAT THE OFFICE
[23:40] OF FAIR HOUSING IS NOT GETTING
[23:42] THE RESOURCES AND SUPPORT THAT
[23:45] IT NEEDS TO LEAD THE CITY'S
[23:47] FAIR HOUSING EFFORTS.
[23:49] AND WE'D LOVE TO KNOW WHAT THE
[23:51] CITY'S PLANS ARE FOR HIRING,
[23:53] UH, FOR THE OFFICE.
[23:54] WHAT IS THE TIMELINE AND WHAT'S
[23:57] THE PLAN FOR SUSTAINING AND
[24:00] SUPPORTING?
[24:01] UH, THE, UH OFFICE THE CIC
[24:06] BELIEVES THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE
[24:07] A POINT PERSON IN THE CITY TO
[24:10] LEAD AND COORDINATE THE CITY'S
[24:13] FAIR HOUSING WORK.
[24:16] CURRENTLY THERE IS A LACK
[24:18] OF COORDINATION AND LEADERSHIP
[24:19] .
[24:20] WE HAVE THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[24:21] HOUSING, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[24:23] OF HOUSING, THE PLANNING
[24:25] DEPARTMENT, THE BA ALL HAVING
[24:28] SOME FAIR HOUSING
[24:31] RESPONSIBILITIES WITHOUT
[24:32] SOMEONE WHOSE MAIN ROLE IS TO
[24:35] ENSURE ALL THE FAIR HOUSING
[24:36] WORK IS GETTING DONE IN A
[24:39] COORDINATED MANNER.
[24:40] FAIR HOUSING CAN AND DOES FALL
[24:43] THROUGH THE CRACKS.
[24:44] FAIR HOUSING NEEDS TO BE A
[24:47] PRIORITY FOR THE CITY AND NEEDS
[24:49] A STRONG INNOVATIVE LEAD OR THE
[24:53] MONITORING COMMITTEE WHICH MY
[24:56] UM COLLEAGUES HAVE TALKED ABOUT
[24:57] THAT IS REQUIRED UNDER THE
[25:00] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING HAS
[25:03] NOT MET FOR A WHILE AND NEEDS
[25:05] TO GET BACK TO REGULAR MEETING
[25:07] UH, MEETINGS.
[25:09] IT IS UNCLEAR RIGHT NOW WHO THE
[25:12] PERSON RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT IS.
[25:14] THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[25:18] SAYS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[25:19] OF THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING
[25:22] IS TO CHAIR THE MONITORING
[25:24] COMMITTEE.
[25:24] BUT THERE HAS BEEN NO UH, EAD
[25:27] FOR ALMOST TWO YEARS.
[25:29] TIME IS TRULY OF THE ESSENCE.
[25:32] HOUSING IS BEING BUILT AND WE
[25:34] NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL NEW
[25:37] HOUSING MEETS FAIR HOUSING
[25:39] REQUIREMENTS.
[25:41] AS UM JAMES AND LINCOLN HAVE
[25:44] SAID, THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS
[25:46] BEEN A NATIONAL LEADER IN FAIR
[25:50] HOUSING.
[25:50] IT WAS THE FIRST CITY TO PASS
[25:53] THE FH AMENDMENT WITH ZONING
[25:56] CODE AND HAVE THE MAYOR SIGN A
[25:57] STRONG EXECUTIVE ORDER ADOPTING
[26:00] THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[26:02] AT A TIME WHEN THE FEDERAL
[26:04] GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO RENEGE
[26:06] ON ALL ITS FAIR HOUSING
[26:08] COMMITTEE COMMITMENTS.
[26:10] THE CITY MUST HOLD FIRM, LEAD
[26:13] THE WAY AND BE A MODEL FOR
[26:15] OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY
[26:17] .
[26:17] THANK YOU.
[26:20] AWESOME.
[26:21] GREAT.
[26:22] SO UM.
[26:24] MY NAME IS ARMANI WHITE AND I'M
[26:25] THE, UH, CO-FOUNDER AND
[26:26] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF RECLAIM
[26:28] ROXBURY.
[26:28] AND UM, LIKE MY OTHER ADVOCATES
[26:30] HERE, I SERVE ON THE, UH,
[26:32] CITY'S AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[26:33] FAIR HOUSING COMMUNITY ADVISORY
[26:35] COMMITTEE.
[26:35] IT'S A MOUTHFUL BUT IMPORTANT
[26:37] TO KNOW.
[26:37] UH, RECLAIM ROXBURY INVOLVEMENT
[26:39] IN THE WORK GOES BACK TO 2015.
[26:41] UH, WHEN WE HELPED SHAPE THE
[26:42] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[26:44] EFFORT THAT WAS LED BY THE
[26:45] BOSTON TENANT COALITION THAT
[26:46] LINCOLN AND OTHERS HERE
[26:47] MENTIONED.
[26:48] UH, RESIDENTS AND COMMUNITY
[26:50] ORGANIZERS UH, BACK THEN WERE
[26:51] PRESSING BOSTON TO TAKE ITS
[26:52] OBLIGATION TO ADVOCATE
[26:54] SERIOUSLY.
[26:55] AND SO I'M PROUD TO SEE THAT,
[26:56] YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS WORKING
[26:58] TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS
[26:59] TODAY.
[26:59] UH, AND SO I WANT TO RECOGNIZE
[27:01] WHAT BOSTON HAS DONE.
[27:02] BEFORE I GET INTO WHAT THEY
[27:03] NEED TO DO BETTER.
[27:03] UM, SO THE CITY HAS MADE FAIR
[27:05] HOUSING A PART OF ITS
[27:06] DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS AND
[27:07] ESTABLISHED A COMMUNITY
[27:08] ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AS WE'VE
[27:09] MENTIONED AND A MODERN
[27:10] COMMITTEE, UH, CREATING A ROLE
[27:12] FOR RESIDENTS.
[27:13] AND IT HAS ADOPTED AN ANTI
[27:15] DISPLACEMENT ACTION PLAN UH,
[27:16] WHICH WE BEGAN PILOTING, YOU
[27:18] KNOW, DIRECT DISPLACEMENT
[27:19] DISCLOSURES UH, ASKING
[27:21] DEVELOPERS TO IDENTIFY WHEN A
[27:22] PROJECT COULD FORCE PEOPLE FROM
[27:23] THEIR HOMES AND LOCAL
[27:24] BUSINESSES.
[27:25] UM, AND THOSE ARE MEANINGFUL
[27:27] STEPS.
[27:27] AND SO THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[27:28] HOUSING AND EQUITY ALSO PLAYS
[27:30] AN ESSENTIAL ROLE IN
[27:31] INVESTIGATING DISCRIMINATION
[27:32] AND TESTING, UH, WHETHER PEOPLE
[27:34] ARE ACTUALLY BEING TREATED
[27:35] FAIRLY WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING
[27:37] FOR HOUSING, WHICH WE KNOW IS
[27:38] SO IMPORTANT IN THE CITY WHERE
[27:39] SO MANY SECTION EIGHT HOLDERS
[27:40] AND PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR UH,
[27:42] FOR RENT.
[27:43] UM AND SO I'M GLAD DOING WHAT'S
[27:45] IS GOING TO BE SPEAKING TODAY
[27:46] ON THE PANEL BECAUSE HE HAS
[27:47] BEEN A PART OF THIS WORK FOR
[27:48] MANY YEARS AND IS A PART OF THE
[27:50] ESSENTIAL KIND OF UM, PART
[27:51] OF HOW THAT OFFICE FUNCTIONS.
[27:53] AND UM, SO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO
[27:56] HAVE THAT PERSPECTIVE WHILE WE
[27:57] ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT NEEDS TO
[27:58] BE IMPROVED.
[27:59] UH, AND I APPRECIATE MAYOR RULE
[28:00] AND ADMINISTRATION STANDING UP
[28:02] TO THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S
[28:02] ATTACKS ON BOSTON'S HOUSING
[28:04] EQUITY WORK.
[28:05] AS YOU HEARD I MENTIONED.
[28:06] UM, THE, UH THE FEDERAL
[28:08] ADMINISTRATION THINKS BOSTON IS
[28:09] ANTI-WHITE, WHICH IS CRAZY,
[28:10] RIGHT?
[28:11] UM, AND SO THE SUGGESTION THAT
[28:12] ADDRESSING GENERATIONS
[28:13] OF EXCLUSION FROM HOUSING IS
[28:15] SOMEHOW ANTI-WHITE IS
[28:16] RIDICULOUS.
[28:17] AND SO BOSTON SHOULD DEFEND ITS
[28:18] COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING
[28:19] WITHOUT AN APOLOGY.
[28:20] RIGHT.
[28:21] THAT'S LIKE EASY TO SAY.
[28:22] SO BUT DEFENDING THAT
[28:23] COMMITMENT ALSO MEANS CARRYING
[28:24] IT OUT FULLY HERE IN BOSTON.
[28:26] SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO JUST SAY
[28:27] IT.
[28:27] UM AND FOR BLACK BOSTONIANS
[28:28] FAIR HOUSING IS NOT AN ABSTRACT
[28:30] PRINCIPLE.
[28:31] ARE YOU GOING TO TALK ABOUT,
[28:32] UM, OUR FAMILIES HAVE BEEN SHUT
[28:33] OUT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BUY
[28:34] HOMES, TO BUILD WEALTH AND TO
[28:36] REMAIN IN NEIGHBORHOODS.
[28:37] UH, WE HAVE HELPED BUILD AND A
[28:39] FAMILY.
[28:39] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING
[28:40] REQUIRES THE CITY TO CONFRONT
[28:41] THAT HISTORY AND THE DECISIONS
[28:43] IT MAKES TODAY.
[28:44] UM, AND SO I RECLAIM ROXBURY.
[28:45] WE'VE HELPED TO MAKE THOSE
[28:46] DECISIONS TANGIBLE.
[28:47] IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT NUBIAN
[28:48] SQUARE UM, FORMERLY DUDLEY
[28:50] SQUARE ON PUBLIC LAND, WE
[28:51] PUSHED TO ENSURE THAT UM
[28:54] PROJECTS ARE DEEPLY AFFORDABLE
[28:55] THAT RESIDENTS UM AND
[28:58] ENTREPRENEURS HAVE
[28:59] OPPORTUNITIES.
[29:00] UH, BUT THERE ARE BLACK LED AND
[29:01] DIVERSE DEVELOPMENT TEAMS AND
[29:02] THAT WE GET A REAL SAYING WHAT
[29:03] GETS BUILT?
[29:04] IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE VERY
[29:05] PROUD OF AND WE INSISTED THAT
[29:07] DEVELOPMENT SHOULD BENEFIT
[29:08] PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED THROUGH
[29:09] DISINVESTMENT AND THE THREAT
[29:11] OF DISPLACEMENT.
[29:12] UM, AND IF WE CAN DEMAND THAT
[29:13] STANDARD IN ROXBURY, BOSTON CAN
[29:15] APPLY IT EVERYWHERE.
[29:17] AND SO THAT WILL TAKE A STRONG
[29:18] OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND
[29:19] EQUITY LED BY PROFESSIONALS
[29:20] WITH DEEP FAIR HOUSING
[29:22] EXPERIENCE.
[29:23] UM AND I WANT TO HONOR BOB'S
[29:24] ROLE AND THE LEADERSHIP HE
[29:25] BROUGHT TO THIS WORK WHEN HE
[29:26] WAS HERE.
[29:26] UH, BUT SINCE HIS PASSING FOR
[29:28] THE PAST TWO YEARS THE OFFICE
[29:29] HAS LACKED A PERMANENT
[29:30] DIRECTOR, WHICH IS, UM, NEEDS
[29:32] TO BE CHANGED.
[29:33] UH, AND THE DISRUPTION HAS BEEN
[29:35] FELT AS YOU'VE HEARD OTHER
[29:35] PEOPLE TALK ABOUT AND I
[29:36] UNDERSTAND THE CITY IS WORKING
[29:38] TO FILL THAT POSITION AND WE
[29:39] YOU KNOW, WE'VE SUGGESTED A
[29:40] COUPLE PEOPLE.
[29:41] UH, AND ALSO FOR THE TESTING
[29:43] LEADERSHIP POSITION.
[29:43] UH, BUT WE NEED THOSE SEARCHES
[29:45] TO MOVE WITH URGENCY.
[29:46] WE NEED YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO
[29:48] MAKE A DECISION AND WE NEED
[29:49] PEOPLE IN THOSE ROLES WHO KNOW
[29:51] FAIR HOUSING ENFORCEMENT, UH,
[29:52] OF TESTING AND THE COMMUNITIES
[29:54] THAT THIS OFFICE SERVES.
[29:56] UH, AND SO TESTING IS ACTUALLY
[29:57] HOW WE FIND DISCRIMINATION THAT
[29:58] PEOPLE, UH, MAY NEVER KNOW.
[30:00] EXCUSE ME.
[30:01] TESTING IS HOW WE FIND
[30:02] DISCRIMINATION THAT PEOPLE
[30:03] NEVER KNOW THEY EXPERIENCED
[30:04] BECAUSE PEOPLE MIGHT NOT EVEN
[30:05] KNOW THEY'RE BEING.
[30:06] DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.
[30:07] RIGHT.
[30:08] BECAUSE PEOPLE JUST AREN'T.
[30:09] EXPERTS IN FAIR HOUSING LAW AND
[30:10] BUT THEY ARE USED.
[30:12] TO RACISM AND THE WAY THAT
[30:14] THINGS WORK IN EVERYDAY LIFE.
[30:16] UM AND SO WE ALSO NEED A CLEAR
[30:18] PUBLIC ACCOUNT OF HOW FAIR
[30:19] HOUSING SHAPES DEVELOPMENT
[30:20] DECISIONS FOR THE CITY'S FORMAL
[30:21] FAIR HOUSING REVIEWS APPLIES TO
[30:23] LARGE PROJECTS BUT IS MUCH LESS
[30:25] CLEAR TO RESIDENTS HOW FAIR
[30:26] HOUSING IS CONSIDERED IN OTHER
[30:28] DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
[30:29] UH, AND WHEN THE BOSTON INTER
[30:31] AGENCY FAIR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
[30:32] COMMITTEE ANOTHER MOUTHFUL.
[30:34] UH, WHEN THEY REVIEW A PROJECT
[30:36] ITS COMMENTS AND THE RESULTING
[30:37] COMMITMENTS WHICH YOU KNOW IF
[30:39] YOU'RE IF YOU'RE A DISTRICT
[30:40] CITY COUNCIL YOU HAVE A
[30:40] DEVELOPMENT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD
[30:41] THERE IS THOSE COMMENTS ARE IN
[30:44] THE YOU KNOW THE REVIEW PACKET
[30:45] FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT.
[30:46] UM BUT IT'S NOT EASY TO FIND AS
[30:48] AN ADVOCATE WHO DOES THIS YOU
[30:49] KNOW, EVERY DAY.
[30:50] UM AND SO RESIDENTS SHOULD BE
[30:51] ABLE TO SEE WHAT CONCERNS ARE
[30:52] RAISED BY THE BOSTON INTER
[30:54] AGENCY FAIR HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
[30:55] COMMITTEE AND WHAT'S CHANGED
[30:56] AND WHETHER THOSE COMMITMENTS
[30:57] WERE KEPT.
[30:59] UM AND SO MY ASK IS
[31:00] STRAIGHTFORWARD.
[31:00] OUR ASK IS STRAIGHTFORWARD.
[31:01] FILL THE LEADERSHIP VACANCIES
[31:02] WITH EXPERIENCED FAIR HOUSING
[31:04] PROFESSIONALS.
[31:04] RESTORE THE OFFICES CAPACITY.
[31:06] UH, MAKE FAIR HOUSING REVIEW
[31:08] AND ITS OUTCOMES VISIBLE TO THE
[31:09] PUBLIC.
[31:10] UH, AND BOSTON HAS TAKEN
[31:11] IMPORTANT STEPS CURRENTLY.
[31:12] BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT
[31:13] THAT COMMITMENT REACHES, UH,
[31:15] BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES AND
[31:16] EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE
[31:17] DECISIONS ABOUT LAND AND
[31:18] HOUSING ARE BEING MADE.
[31:19] THANK YOU.
[31:22] THAT WAS VERY INFORMATIVE
[31:24] FOR ME.
[31:24] SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
[31:25] STATEMENTS IN YOUR WORK.
[31:27] OKAY SO NOW BEFORE I WANT TO
[31:29] ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN
[31:30] JOINED ALSO BY
[31:31] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND
[31:32] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE I'M GOING
[31:34] TO GIVE MY COLLEAGUES IN.
[31:35] SORRY.
[31:36] YES.
[31:36] AND YOU KNOW I YOU JUST SO
[31:38] STRONG I ALWAYS THOUGHT YOU
[31:39] WERE HERE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.
[31:41] SO, UM, WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY
[31:43] ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS,
[31:45] COUNCILOR COLE PEPPER.
[31:46] SO I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE MY
[31:48] COLLEAGUES THE OPPORTUNITY TO
[31:50] DO SOME Q&A.
[31:51] I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM EACH.
[31:54] LET'S DO FIVE MINUTES.
[31:55] IS THAT OKAY?
[31:57] FIVE MINUTES.
[31:57] AND THEN IF THEY HAVE SECOND
[31:58] ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS I'LL ALLOW
[31:59] THEM TO DO THAT AND THEN WE'LL
[32:01] MOVE ON TO THE SECOND PANEL.
[32:02] BUT WE'LL START OFF WITH THE
[32:04] THREE SPONSORS AND CO-SPONSORS
[32:07] OF THIS DOCKET STARTING WITH
[32:08] COUNCILOR WU COUNCILOR CULPEPER
[32:10] THEN MEJIA AND THEN BY
[32:11] ATTENDANCE.
[32:12] SO COUNCILOR WORRELL FLOOR IS
[32:13] YOURS.
[32:14] THANK YOU.
[32:14] CHAIR AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO
[32:15] THE PANEL FOR ALL YOUR WORK ON
[32:17] MAKING BOSTON.
[32:18] UH.
[32:18] A NATIONAL LEADER IN THIS
[32:19] WORK AND ALSO.
[32:20] JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
[32:22] HONOR.
[32:22] THE WORK OF THE LATE GREAT
[32:23] BOB TYRRELL AS WELL.
[32:25] UM, I.
[32:26] HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT
[32:27] I'M GONNA SEE IF I COULD KEEP
[32:28] THEM ALL DOWN.
[32:30] UM, AND PREPARE QUESTIONS AND
[32:32] QUESTIONS AS YOU GUYS WERE
[32:34] TALKING.
[32:35] SO CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT THE
[32:38] MONITORING COMMITTEE AND THE
[32:41] INFORMATION YOU RECEIVE?
[32:42] UH, FROM THE CITY TO BE ABLE TO
[32:44] EVALUATE THE CITY'S PROGRESS.
[32:49] YEAH.
[32:50] UM, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME?
[32:52] OKAY.
[32:52] YEAH, I THINK THE I MEAN, THE
[32:53] THE QUARTERLY REPORTS WE
[32:54] RECEIVE ARE ONE OF THE MOST
[32:56] TANGIBLE WAYS THAT I HAVE SEEN
[32:58] LOCAL GOVERNMENT SHOW THEIR
[33:00] COMMITMENT TO FAIR HOUSING, UH,
[33:02] ABOUT MY COMMITMENT TO MAKING
[33:03] CHANGE RATHER AND IN THIS CASE
[33:05] AROUND FAIR HOUSING.
[33:06] AND SO WE'RE ACTUALLY.
[33:06] SEEING REPORTS.
[33:07] FROM EACH.
[33:08] DEPARTMENT OR.
[33:09] NO REPORTS.
[33:09] WHICH IS A PROBLEM AND.
[33:10] THEY DON'T REPORT BUT.
[33:11] WE'RE SEEING THAT THERE.
[33:13] ARE GOALS AND THEN THERE ARE
[33:14] QUARTERLY UPDATES AND EXCEL
[33:16] SPREADSHEETS EASY TO READ.
[33:17] OKAY.
[33:18] WELL I THINK IN THE BEGINNING
[33:21] THE MONITORING COMMITTEE WE HAD
[33:24] UM THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WE
[33:26] HAD THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[33:27] OF HOUSING VHA THE HEALTH
[33:29] COMMISSION AND EVERYBODY GAVE
[33:33] UH REPORTS ON WHAT THEIR
[33:34] OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE
[33:36] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING WAS.
[33:38] AND THE BHB DEVELOPED A
[33:40] FANTASTIC SPREADSHEET AND WE'RE
[33:43] JUST ASKING THAT THAT CONTINUES
[33:45] BECAUSE THAT WAS JUST AN
[33:47] AMAZING, UM, WAY TO KEEP TRACK
[33:51] OF WHAT EVERYONE WAS DOING
[33:52] AROUND FAIR HOUSING.
[33:53] THANK YOU.
[33:55] YEAH.
[33:57] SO SO.
[33:57] ECHO WHAT UM, MY COLLEAGUES.
[33:58] HAVE.
[33:59] SAID I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS
[34:00] THAT I THINK UM, COULD.
[34:02] BE UM, ADD SOME MORE VALUE IS
[34:05] A.
[34:05] LARGE PART OF THE THE.
[34:07] THE FHA PROCESS WAS TO KIND
[34:09] OF THINK ABOUT A.
[34:11] UM AN INTERSECTIONALITY.
[34:12] THAT JAMES TALK ABOUT.
[34:13] BECAUSE YOU KNOW, UH, FAIR
[34:14] HOUSING REALLY.
[34:14] INTERSECTS UM.
[34:16] PEOPLE KIND OF THINK OF FOR.
[34:17] HOUSING I THINK HOUSING AND
[34:18] THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY MAIN.
[34:19] WHICH IT RESIDES BUT IT REALLY
[34:21] CUTS ACROSS.
[34:21] A LOT OF DIFFERENT DOMAINS.
[34:23] SO I THINK ONE OF.
[34:24] THING THAT THAT COULD BE USEFUL
[34:26] WITHIN THE MARGIN.
[34:27] COMMITTEE AND ALL THE REPORTS
[34:28] THAT.
[34:28] THE DIFFERENT CITY
[34:29] DEPARTMENTS.
[34:30] UM PRESENT.
[34:31] IS HAVE.
[34:32] SOME KIND OF VISION ABOUT
[34:33] HOW TO INTEGRATE BECAUSE IT
[34:35] STILL IS STILL UH FAIRLY SILOED
[34:37] IN TERMS OF UM WE'RE DOING OUR
[34:39] LITTLE PIECE.
[34:40] FOR OUR DEPARTMENT.
[34:40] HERE.
[34:41] OR THERE.
[34:41] BUT I THINK THAT YES, THERE
[34:42] OUGHT TO BE A LARGER STRATEGY.
[34:43] HOW DO YOU INTEGRATE THESE
[34:45] ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS AND
[34:46] CITY DOMAINS.
[34:47] UH, TO A.
[34:48] LARGER KIND OF UNIVERSAL.
[34:50] FOR HOUSING POLICY, RIGHT.
[34:51] I THINK THEY BEEN MENTIONED AS
[34:52] LIKE HAVING LIKE UH A POSITION
[34:54] THAT HELPS COORDINATE ALL THE
[34:56] EFFORTS ACROSS THE CITY OPPOSED
[34:59] TO EVERYONE DOING IT WITHIN
[35:00] THEIR OWN SILOED DEPARTMENT.
[35:01] UM, AND SPEAKING OF REPORTING,
[35:04] UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS NADEEM WHO
[35:05] MENTIONED THE EQUITY AUDIT.
[35:07] UM, THAT WAS UH, RFP IN 2025.
[35:12] UM, WHAT CAN YOU TALK TO
[35:13] ME ABOUT WHAT THAT INDEPENDENT
[35:15] AUDIT WAS SUPPOSED TO IDENTIFY
[35:18] OR REVIEW OR PROVIDE
[35:19] INFORMATION THE DATA TO THE
[35:21] CITY.
[35:22] AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER
[35:23] PEOPLE WANT TO DO IT.
[35:24] IT'S REALLY SPELLED OUT IN THE
[35:27] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING WHAT
[35:29] THE AUDIT IS REQUIRED TO DO.
[35:31] AND IN ALL FAIRNESS THE CITY
[35:33] DID HIRE CONTRACTORS TO DO THE
[35:36] AUDIT AND THEY WERE IN THE
[35:38] MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS AND IT
[35:40] WAS LOOKING ACROSS ALL THE CITY
[35:42] DEPARTMENTS AND WHAT FAIR
[35:44] HOUSING WORK THEY ARE DOING
[35:46] WHAT HOW EFFECTIVE IT IS, WHAT
[35:48] ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE.
[35:49] AND THAT AUDIT WAS PAUSED AFTER
[35:53] THE UH, HUD INVESTIGATION
[35:56] STARTED AND WE UNDERSTAND WE'RE
[36:00] SYMPATHETIC BUT THIS IS WHAT
[36:02] THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS
[36:04] DOING.
[36:04] THEY ARE KILLING FAIR HOUSING
[36:07] AND WE JUST CAN SAY ALL RIGHT,
[36:10] WE'RE GOING TO STOP DOING OUR
[36:12] FAIR HOUSING AUDIT FOREVER.
[36:16] SO THAT'S OUR CONCERN.
[36:17] AND WHEN UH UH, ONE MAJOR PIECE
[36:23] WAS ALSO TO UH, ASSESS WHAT
[36:26] LINCOLN JUST TOUCHED UPON.
[36:27] WHAT IS THE UNDERSTANDING.
[36:29] OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING.
[36:31] FAIR HOUSING OUT.
[36:32] THERE AMONG CITY OFFICIALS
[36:33] AND CITY WORKERS?
[36:35] UH, A LOT OF.
[36:37] PEOPLE AGAIN BELIEVE APPROACHED
[36:39] FAIR HOUSING AS.
[36:41] I WAS DISCRIMINATING AGAINST
[36:43] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[36:44] HOUSING GOES.
[36:45] WAY BEYOND THAT.
[36:46] UH, HOUSING IS CONNECTED TO OUR
[36:48] PUBLIC SCHOOLS, TO PUBLIC
[36:50] SAFETY, TO PUBLIC HEALTH, TO
[36:51] THE ENVIRONMENT, TO THE AIR.
[36:53] UH, SO HOW HOW DO WE
[36:57] COLLECTIVELY.
[36:58] UNDERSTAND THAT.
[36:59] INTEREST SEXUAL.
[37:00] NATURE OF.
[37:01] FAIR HOUSING?
[37:02] UH, AND I COULD TELL YOU IN A
[37:04] LOT OF PLACES BASED ON ANOTHER
[37:05] STUDY THAT I WAS PART OF UH, UH
[37:08] ,LOOKING AT CITIES IN THE
[37:10] GREATER BOSTON AREA AND TOWNS
[37:12] THERE'S A LOT
[37:13] OF MISUNDERSTANDING.
[37:14] THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, ZERO
[37:17] KNOWLEDGE, UH, AMONG VERY.
[37:19] WELL-MEANING PEOPLE ABOUT WHAT.
[37:21] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[37:22] HOUSING IS AND WHAT ACTUALLY.
[37:25] HAS BEEN.
[37:25] ENDORSED BY LAWS AND U.S.
[37:28] SUPREME COURT DECISIONS IN THIS
[37:29] COUNTRY.
[37:32] YEAH.
[37:32] SO I.
[37:33] THINK UM SO THE QUESTION YOU
[37:34] ASK IS A GOOD ONE, UH,
[37:36] COUNCILOR IN THE SENSE THAT UM,
[37:37] SO THERE'S A PRESUMPTION BEEN
[37:39] AROUND WHAT UM GOAL 7.1 AND AN
[37:43] EQUITY AUDIT IS SUPPOSED TO DO
[37:44] AND IT IS IT IS IT IS FAIRLY
[37:46] SPELLED OUT UM THE CAC WAS
[37:48] HAPPY WITH THE UM THE
[37:50] INDEPENDENT UH CONTRACT WITH
[37:52] THE INDEPENDENT.
[37:53] CONTRACTOR THAT.
[37:54] UH THE CITY HIRED TO DO THE
[37:55] ASSESSMENT AND WERE HAPPY IN
[37:56] TERMS OF WHAT THE PROCESS HAD
[37:58] BEEN GOING BEFORE THE PAUSE.
[38:00] I THINK ONE OF THE ONE OF THE
[38:01] QUESTIONS IS STILL OUTSTANDING
[38:02] WE DON'T KNOW IS BECAUSE WE
[38:04] DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL AUDIT IN
[38:06] FRONT OF US TO LOOK AT.
[38:07] BUT THE GOAL REALLY THE.
[38:08] END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW,
[38:09] BOSTON HAS A HISTORY OF UH A
[38:11] HISTORY OF UM DISCRIMINATION
[38:13] AND VIOLATING THEORIES AND
[38:14] PRACTICE AND SO ON AND SO
[38:15] FORTH.
[38:15] YOU KNOW AND WE KNOW THIS YOU
[38:17] KNOW.
[38:18] SO THE LARGER.
[38:19] QUESTION AND THAT YOU CAN'T
[38:20] ANSWER UNTIL YOU SEE THE
[38:21] ACTUAL.
[38:21] AUDIT IS.
[38:22] DOES THE AUDIT GO INTO THE KIND
[38:25] OF DETAIL AND ACTUALLY AND
[38:27] ACTUALLY CRITICALLY THE
[38:28] CRITICAL QUESTIONS AND HARD
[38:29] QUESTIONS.
[38:30] AND PROVIDE REAL.
[38:31] ANSWERS THAT THEN THE CITY CAN
[38:33] LOOK AT AND TAKE ACTION TO MOVE
[38:34] FORWARD TO REALLY IMPROVE NOT
[38:35] ONLY FOR FOR HOUSING EQUITY,
[38:38] UH, ACROSS THE CITY OF BOSTON.
[38:39] SO THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S AN
[38:40] OUTSTANDING QUESTION THAT'S
[38:41] STILL LEFT TO BE ANSWERED.
[38:42] THANK YOU.
[38:43] CHAIR THANK YOU,
[38:45] COUNCILOR CULPEPPER YEAH FIVE
[38:46] MINUTES.
[38:47] THANK YOU CHAIR FOR.
[38:49] HOLDING THIS HEARING AND.
[38:50] THANK YOU TO COUNCIL WILL RAIL
[38:51] AND WE'LL, UH FOR CO-SPONSORING
[38:54] .
[38:55] THIS HEARING.
[38:56] I, UH.
[39:00] JUST WANTED TO SAY.
[39:04] DEAN COHEN AND I WORKED FOR
[39:05] YEARS.
[39:06] I WAS SURE.
[39:08] THAT GREATER BOSTON LEGAL.
[39:09] SERVICES AND OURS.
[39:10] AS A REGIONAL COUNCIL.
[39:11] I WORK WITH CHAMBERS UNIONS FOR
[39:12] YEARS AND.
[39:15] TO FIND OURSELVES IN THIS
[39:17] PREDICAMENT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
[39:19] AND I'M REALLY.
[39:21] FOCUSED ON THIS CITY FOR JUST
[39:22] ONE MINUTE MINUTE BECAUSE EVERY
[39:25] OPPORTUNITY I'VE HAD I ASKED
[39:26] THE CITY WHEN WERE WE GOING TO
[39:28] HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR
[39:30] HIRED?
[39:31] I WAS TOLD SEVERAL TIMES BY THE
[39:34] END OF THE SUMMER THAT WE WOULD
[39:36] HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR
[39:39] HIRED AND ON BOARD AND THERE
[39:41] WERE RUMORS THAT WE HAD ONE
[39:43] THAT ONE WAS HIRED BUT I
[39:45] HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD UH, A
[39:47] FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR BEING
[39:50] HIRED AND SOMEONE COMES IN AND
[39:53] ONCE AGAIN, UH, MAKING THE
[39:56] STRONGEST REQUESTS THAT I CAN
[39:57] TO THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE
[40:00] HAVE A FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR
[40:02] HIRED BY THE END OF THE SUMMER,
[40:05] UH, BECAUSE THE WORK THAT THAT
[40:07] BOB DID AND WE WORK WITH BOB A
[40:09] LOT WHAT A GREAT DIRECTOR HE
[40:11] WAS THE STANDARDS THAT HE SAID
[40:14] AND WHERE WE ARE NOW AND I
[40:16] REMEMBER A DAY AND SO TO YOU
[40:19] WHEN WE REJECTED THE CITY
[40:20] OF BOSTON'S FIRST AFFIRMATIVELY
[40:22] FURTHER AND FAIR HOUSING PLAN
[40:23] THAT THEY SUBMITTED TO HAD WE
[40:26] SEND IT BACK I WAS REGIONAL
[40:27] COUNCIL.
[40:27] I HAD SAID NO, THIS IS NOT GOOD
[40:29] ENOUGH.
[40:30] WHEN YOU LOOK.
[40:31] AT THE PLAN THAT THEY FINALLY
[40:33] CAME UP WITH, IT'S AMAZING HOW
[40:36] THE CITY UH MOVED TO THE
[40:38] FOREFRONT OF THE COUNTRY IN
[40:39] TERMS OF FAIR HOUSING AND IT
[40:41] WASN'T BY MISTAKE IT WAS
[40:43] BECAUSE OF A LOT OF HARD WORK.
[40:46] AND I GO BACK TO THAT STUDY
[40:48] THAT UH, BOSTON FOUNDATION DID
[40:51] WITH SUFFOLK LAW SCHOOL THAT
[40:53] TESTING PROGRAM, THE SECTION
[40:54] EIGHT PROGRAM.
[40:55] I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT
[40:57] REAL QUICK AND ASK EACH OF YOU
[40:59] WHAT SHOULD THE CITY OF BOSTON
[41:00] HAVE DONE AFTER THE BOSTON
[41:03] FOUNDATION AND SUFFOLK
[41:05] UNIVERSITY ISSUED THEIR REPORT
[41:07] REGARDING SECTION EIGHT
[41:08] DISCRIMINATION?
[41:11] WELL, I THINK UH UH UH THE
[41:16] FIRST WOULD BE TO UH.
[41:20] DECLARE THAT THE CITY UH HAS
[41:24] BEEN STRUGGLING VERY POSITIVE
[41:26] AND THEY PROGRESSIVELY TO BUILD
[41:28] A VISION WHERE EVERYONE IS
[41:30] INCLUDED AND WE'RE NOT GOING
[41:32] TO.
[41:32] LET ANY KIND OF UH.
[41:35] OF UH PROBLEM THAT EXISTS OR
[41:37] CHALLENGE THAT IS CONTINUING TO
[41:40] TO DETER US FROM THAT DIRECTION
[41:42] .
[41:42] SO SO THAT WOULD BE YOU KNOW,
[41:44] THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST THING.
[41:45] BUT PART OF THAT MESSAGE WOULD
[41:47] ALSO BE THAT WE'RE.
[41:50] MOVING AWAY FROM A.
[41:51] CITY WHERE WE ARE US AND THEN
[41:53] THERE.
[41:54] THE OTHERS.
[41:55] AND SECTION EIGHT.
[41:58] SOMETIMES IS IS UH IS
[42:00] APPROACHED BY SOME SECTORS AS
[42:02] THE OTHER KNOW SECTION EIGHT IS
[42:03] US.
[42:04] AND SO THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE
[42:06] MESSAGE THAT.
[42:07] THAT HAS TO BE MADE AT LEAST ON
[42:09] A PRELIMINARY LEVEL.
[42:10] I MEAN THERE COULD BE OTHER
[42:11] PROBLEMATIC THINGS BUT AT A.
[42:12] PRELIMINARY LEVEL WE HAVE TO
[42:14] STATE A FLAG.
[42:16] ON THE.
[42:16] GROUND AND.
[42:16] SAY WHEN WE'RE.
[42:17] GOING TO BE A CITY THAT.
[42:19] IS CONTINUE.
[42:19] TO MAKE RACIAL AND ECONOMIC.
[42:21] PROGRESS BECAUSE THAT.
[42:23] IS REALLY THE MEANING OF A
[42:24] GREAT CITY.
[42:25] UM, I WANT TO THANK UM,
[42:29] COUNCILOR CULPEPPER FOR ALL
[42:30] YOUR YEARS OF WORK AND FAIR
[42:32] HOUSING BUT FOR THIS QUESTION
[42:33] AND I HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC
[42:36] ANSWER ABOUT SECTION EIGHT
[42:37] DISCRIMINATION, THE SUFFOLK
[42:39] STUDY WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE
[42:41] KNEW THAT SECTION EIGHT UH
[42:44] HOLDERS WERE BEING DENIED
[42:45] HOUSING UNLAWFULLY.
[42:47] OUR STATE LAW SAYS YOU CANNOT
[42:50] DENY HOUSING TO SOMEONE BECAUSE
[42:52] THEY HAVE A RENTAL SUBSIDY.
[42:54] I'VE WORKED ON THAT FOR YEARS
[42:56] AND YEARS.
[42:57] SO WHAT SHOULD THE CITY DO?
[43:00] VHA GIVES OUT SECTION EIGHT UH
[43:03] VOUCHERS.
[43:03] THEY HOLD SESSIONS FOR PEOPLE
[43:06] LOOKING FOR HOUSING.
[43:07] WHY DON'T THEY HAVE PEOPLE COME
[43:10] TO THEM EVERY TIME THEY GO AND
[43:12] TRY TO GET HOUSING AND ARE TOLD
[43:15] WE DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT?
[43:16] WHY DOESN'T VHA KEEP A RECORD
[43:19] OF ALL THOSE LANDLORDS AND
[43:22] HOUSING PROVIDERS THAT DENY
[43:25] HOUSING TO SECTION EIGHT
[43:26] CERTIFICATES?
[43:26] AND WHY DOESN'T THE CITY SUE
[43:28] THOSE LANDLORDS AND SUE THOSE
[43:32] HOUSING PROVIDERS AND A LOT
[43:33] OF THEM ARE LARGE HOUSING
[43:35] PROVIDERS.
[43:36] I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF TWO AND
[43:38] THREE FAMILY UH UNITS, BUT SOME
[43:41] ARE BIG HOUSING PROVIDERS IN MY
[43:43] DAY SOME OF THE BIG RENTAL
[43:46] COMPANIES WOULD RAISE THEIR
[43:48] RENTS $5 ABOVE THE FAIR MARKET
[43:51] RENTS THAT HUD WOULD PAY FOR
[43:54] SECTION EIGHT BRANDS AND THEN
[43:55] THEY WOULD KEEP PEOPLE OUT.
[43:57] SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A
[43:59] MORE AGGRESSIVE POLICY OVERALL
[44:02] FOR THE CITY AND SORRY I GET
[44:06] WORKED UP ABOUT THAT.
[44:09] UM.
[44:09] IT WAS JUST.
[44:09] THAT THERE COULD BE MORE.
[44:10] COORDINATION WITH.
[44:11] THE STATE OFFICE OF FAIR
[44:12] HOUSING AND ENSURING THAT YOU
[44:14] KNOW, AS IN TERMS OF OUR
[44:16] ADVOCACY GROUP, YOU KNOW, WE
[44:17] KNOW THAT UM, ACE AND OTHERS
[44:19] THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT
[44:20] THAT SOON THE.
[44:21] COORDINATION AND THE ROLE.
[44:22] THAT THE STATE OFFICE PLAYS
[44:24] AND ALSO FRANKLY HAVING MAYBE A
[44:25] MORE INDEPENDENT OFFICE THAT'S
[44:27] JUST COMMUNITY BASED THAT CAN
[44:28] DO THAT WORK, UM, TO, YOU KNOW,
[44:30] HELP SUPPORT WHAT THE CITY
[44:31] MIGHT NOT HAVE THE CAPACITY UM
[44:33] ,IF THAT'S THE ISSUE.
[44:35] LINKING.
[44:37] YEAH.
[44:38] SO YOU KIND.
[44:39] OF TOOK US TO THE POINT UM,
[44:40] NEEDING UH NEEDING UM MADE SO.
[44:45] WE KNOW THIS INTUITIVELY THAT.
[44:47] THIS IS.
[44:48] HAPPENING I MEAN THE THE
[44:49] STUDY COME ON.
[44:51] I THINK UM A SUFFOLK.
[44:55] UM FOR.
[44:55] THE FOR THE STUDY BUT IT
[44:57] DIDN'T REVEAL SOMETHING THAT WE
[44:59] IN THIS FIELD IN THIS SPACE
[45:00] DIDN'T ALREADY KNOW.
[45:02] I THINK A LARGE.
[45:03] PART OF THIS I MEAN, YOU SEE
[45:04] ADVERTISEMENT EVERY DAY, UH,
[45:05] THAT VIOLATES A FAIR HOUSING
[45:07] PRACTICES.
[45:07] YOU KNOW, UM, WE DON'T WE DON'T
[45:09] ACCEPT, UH, CHILDREN ALL THIS
[45:11] KIND OF STUFF THAT REALLY
[45:12] VIOLATES A FAIR HOUSING LAWS.
[45:14] BUT THE.
[45:15] ISSUE IS SOMEWHAT NETTING AND
[45:16] OUR MONUMENTS AND IT'S REALLY
[45:17] ONE ENFORCEMENT.
[45:18] HOW DO YOU CREATE A MECHANISM
[45:20] WHERE YOU KNOW THIS IS
[45:21] HAPPENING?
[45:23] UM, BUT THERE UM.
[45:25] LIKE THERE IS NO DISINCENTIVE
[45:29] WITHIN ALLOWING LANDLORDS TO
[45:31] VIOLATE THESE KIND OF HOUSING
[45:33] PRACTICES AND UNTIL WE KIND
[45:34] OF CHANGE, UH, CREATE A
[45:36] MECHANISM TO ENFORCE FAIR
[45:37] HOUSING LAWS AND PRACTICES,
[45:38] THIS WOULD JUST UH,
[45:40] UNFORTUNATELY CONTINUE.
[45:41] SO HOW DO YOU HOW DO YOU CREATE
[45:42] A MECHANISM THAT THAT ENFORCES
[45:43] A POLICY AND IT'S NOT EVERYONE
[45:45] BUT WHAT CREATING NEW POLICIES
[45:47] IS THE HOW DO YOU ENFORCE THE
[45:48] POLICY THAT'S ALREADY ON THE
[45:49] BOOKS?
[45:50] SO THAT I THINK IS WHAT UM WE
[45:51] NEED TO GET BETTER AT.
[45:53] THANK YOU.
[45:54] THANK YOU,
[45:55] COUNCILOR CULPEPER
[45:55] COUNCILMEMBER HERE YOU HAVE
[45:57] FIVE MINUTES.
[45:59] THAT WAS THAT.
[46:00] DON'T STOP MY OKAY.
[46:01] THERE WE GO.
[46:02] THANK YOU.
[46:02] CHAIR EVERY MINUTE COUNT.
[46:04] UH, NOT FOR REAL.
[46:06] WELL.
[46:06] FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
[46:08] I AM SO GLAD THAT I'M HERE
[46:10] TODAY AND I.
[46:10] REALLY DO APPRECIATE.
[46:12] UM, OUR MONEY.
[46:13] REALLY LAYING DOWN THE
[46:14] FOUNDATION IN TERMS OF WHAT
[46:15] RACIAL EQUITY, UM, REALLY NEEDS
[46:18] TO LOOK LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, IF
[46:19] WE'RE REALLY SERIOUS ABOUT
[46:20] UPLIFTING BLACK AND BROWN
[46:21] PEOPLE, THESE ARE THE
[46:22] OPPORTUNITIES FOR US AS A
[46:24] COUNCIL TO SHOW AND DEMONSTRATE
[46:25] WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN WE'RE
[46:27] SERIOUS ABOUT.
[46:28] UM.
[46:28] THAT BUSINESS.
[46:29] SO I'M REALLY HAPPY TO SEE ALL
[46:30] OF MY COLLEAGUES HERE TODAY AND
[46:32] I'M HOPING THAT WE'RE ALL
[46:33] TAKING NOTES IN TERMS OF WHAT
[46:35] WE NEED TO DO.
[46:35] SO THANK YOU ALL FOR LAYING
[46:36] DOWN THE FOUNDATION.
[46:38] AND I WAS AS YOU ARE WE'RE
[46:40] TALKING.
[46:40] I WAS ALREADY TAKING NOTES AND
[46:42] I.
[46:42] AND I GUESS BECAUSE IT AFFIRMS
[46:45] FOR.
[46:45] ME THAT I'M ALSO ON THE RIGHT
[46:47] TRACK WHEN IT COMES TO THIS
[46:48] BECAUSE ONE OF.
[46:48] THE QUESTIONS THAT I UM HAD
[46:50] IS REALLY ABOUT I ALWAYS SAY
[46:52] THAT BOSTON IS.
[46:52] RESOURCE RICH BUT COORDINATION
[46:53] POOR AND WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH
[46:56] TO REALLY UH.
[46:57] FIND THE INTERSECTION.
[46:58] SO I TALKED ABOUT.
[46:59] WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT HOUSING
[47:00] YOU KNOW, THE WORKFORCE IS.
[47:02] IS DEFINITELY.
[47:03] PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
[47:04] AT BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.
[47:06] I'M HAPPY TO.
[47:06] SEE BRANDY HERE.
[47:07] HIGHER GROUND HAS BEEN DOING A
[47:08] LOT OF WORK AROUND THE
[47:09] DISPLACEMENT OF.
[47:10] OUR STUDENTS PUBLIC HEALTH AND
[47:11] PUBLIC SAFETY.
[47:12] AND I THINK AS WE CONTINUE TO
[47:14] HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS WHAT
[47:16] ROLE UM, THE CITY PLAY IN
[47:19] HELPING THOSE DEPARTMENTS
[47:19] UNDERSTAND THE COMMUNICATION
[47:21] THAT THEY SHOULD BE SHARING
[47:22] WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS.
[47:23] WHEN THEY'RE INTERFACING WITH
[47:25] OUR CONSTITUENTS?
[47:26] AND I THINK THAT THAT IS ALSO
[47:28] AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE
[47:29] CONVERSATION BECAUSE.
[47:30] EQUITY AND FAIR HOUSING HAS TO.
[47:33] BE THE ENTIRE CITY, NOT JUST A
[47:35] FEW DEPARTMENTS.
[47:35] SO I'M REALLY.
[47:36] ON BOARD.
[47:37] WITH THAT.
[47:39] SO THREE QUESTIONS.
[47:40] I'D LIKE TO KNOW.
[47:42] UM WHAT WOULD SUCCESS LOOK.
[47:44] LIKE IF WE GOT THIS RIGHT?
[47:46] UM I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW WOULD
[47:47] YOU.
[47:48] MEASURE THAT SUCCESS?
[47:49] AND I KNOW THE.
[47:50] RESEARCHERS HERE PROBABLY HAVE
[47:52] SOME ANSWERS FOR ME.
[47:53] JAMES.
[47:54] UM, AND IF.
[47:55] YOU.
[47:55] HAD.
[47:55] TO GIVE THE CITY OR, YOU KNOW,
[47:57] GIVE US A GRADE.
[47:58] IN THIS MOMENT.
[48:00] WE'D BE AN.
[48:01] A-PLUS STUDENT.
[48:02] I WE LIKE D WE C NEEDS
[48:05] IMPROVEMENT.
[48:05] I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT GRADE YOU
[48:06] WOULD GIVE US.
[48:07] UM, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION
[48:11] IS HOW ARE WE?
[48:12] HOW'S THE CITY CURRENTLY
[48:14] COMMUNICATING GIVEN THE FACT
[48:15] THAT WE HAVEN'T HAD A
[48:16] CONSISTENT UM.
[48:18] UH.
[48:19] THE STAFFING TRANSITIONS,
[48:20] YOU KNOW, AND.
[48:21] AND UH, LOSING.
[48:22] BOB AND THEN JUST ALL THE FITS
[48:23] AND STARTS THAT WE'VE.
[48:24] HAD UM, HOW HAS THAT.
[48:26] COMMUNICATION BEEN.
[48:28] AND WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO
[48:30] IMPROVE THAT?
[48:30] THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS.
[48:31] I'LL GO FIRST TO TAKE THE.
[48:33] EASY PART AND LEAVE THE
[48:34] HARD.
[48:34] PART FOR MY COLLEAGUES.
[48:36] AND I.
[48:37] GUESS THE EASY PART IN ONE
[48:39] SENSE.
[48:39] IS UH, METRICS.
[48:41] I MEAN ANYTHING WE DO SHOULD.
[48:43] BE SHOULD BE.
[48:44] MEASURABLE SHOULDN'T BE UH.
[48:46] AND NOT JUST BY.
[48:48] HARD DATA BY THE WAY, BUT
[48:49] ALSO.
[48:49] BY THE STORIES THAT.
[48:50] WE HEAR IN OUR COMMUNITIES.
[48:51] UH, BUT BUT THE ASSESSMENT
[48:54] OF FAIR HOUSING.
[48:55] ACTUALLY HAS A WHOLE SET
[48:56] OF METRICS FOR ALL OF THESE
[48:57] GOALS.
[48:58] FOR THE 14 GOALS.
[48:59] THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE
[49:00] MEASURED.
[49:01] SO WHEN WE MEET AS A MODERATE.
[49:02] COMMITTEE, UH.
[49:04] WE GO OVER.
[49:05] THOSE GOALS.
[49:05] AND THE ACTUAL.
[49:07] MEASURES AND THE DEAN
[49:08] HIGHLIGHTED TO.
[49:09] BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS
[49:10] DONE AN EXCELLENT.
[49:11] JOB IN LOOKING AT THOSE METRICS
[49:12] AND.
[49:12] DEVELOPING UH, STATS AND
[49:14] SPREADSHEETS AND SO SO.
[49:16] ANYTHING WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO
[49:19] DO ANYTHING WE SAY WE.
[49:20] UH, HOPE TO SEE.
[49:22] UH WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT
[49:24] ARE THE.
[49:24] METRICS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT
[49:26] GOAL.
[49:27] WHAT ARE THE METRICS ASSOCIATED
[49:29] WITH THAT OBJECTIVE?
[49:30] AND THEN OVER A PERIOD OF TIME
[49:31] AND THE AUDIT DOES THIS TO A
[49:33] CERTAIN EXTENT TOWARDS THE NEXT
[49:35] THAT OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WE
[49:37] SEE.
[49:37] YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME
[49:38] IMPROVEMENT HERE THERE'S BEEN
[49:40] SOME IMPROVEMENT THERE.
[49:41] BUT THE METRICS.
[49:42] ARE ALSO IMPORTANT UH TO UH.
[49:45] TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND
[49:47] WHAT.
[49:47] THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE ARE.
[49:48] AND IF I DON'T HAVE.
[49:50] WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY
[49:51] SIDETRACKING BUT LET ME.
[49:52] SAY IT ANYWAY WE HAVE A LOT
[49:54] OF.
[49:54] DEVELOPMENT GOING ON.
[49:56] SO IF DEVELOPMENT.
[49:57] AND NOTHING.
[49:59] SHOULD BE.
[49:59] EXCLUSIVE BUT IF.
[50:00] DEVELOPMENT IS UH.
[50:02] LET'S SAY.
[50:02] LEANING TOWARDS ONE BEDROOM
[50:04] STUDIO APARTMENTS.
[50:06] WELL THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT
[50:07] THE DATA AND SAY.
[50:08] WHO'S GOING TO BE IMPACTED BY
[50:10] THAT?
[50:10] LEANING TOWARDS ONE BEDROOM IN
[50:12] A STUDIO.
[50:13] APARTMENT ASIDE FROM THE
[50:16] REASONS FOR THAT, FOR THE
[50:17] MOMENT.
[50:17] WE HAVE.
[50:18] IN BOSTON CENSUS TRACKS.
[50:20] WE HAVE.
[50:21] FAMILIES WITH A GOOD 30 TO.
[50:24] 50% OF ALL THE FAMILIES.
[50:25] AND.
[50:25] A WHOLE BUNCH OF CENSUS TRACKS
[50:27] HAVE FOUR PERSONS OR MORE AND
[50:29] SO AND SO.
[50:30] WHO'S BEING LEFT OUT ONCE WE
[50:32] LEAN.
[50:33] TOWARDS THIS POLICY OR THIS
[50:34] APPROACH.
[50:35] AND A FAIR HOUSING.
[50:36] GOAL IS UH IS BASED ON
[50:39] METRICS IT HAS TO BE BASED ON
[50:41] METRICS AND A.
[50:42] FAIR HOUSING.
[50:42] LENS ALLOW US TO ASK QUESTIONS
[50:45] BUT.
[50:45] WHAT ARE THE IMPLICATIONS.
[50:47] OF THIS DECISION OR THIS
[50:49] DECISION FOR AGAIN.
[50:50] WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT.
[50:51] TEN FAMILIES.
[50:52] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOUSANDS
[50:54] OF PEOPLE.
[50:54] IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.
[50:55] YEAH I GUESS UH.
[50:57] HOW DO WE WE CAN ALSO.
[50:59] MEASURE AND JUST.
[50:59] DO THAT IS IN THESE
[51:01] QUARTERLY REPORTS.
[51:02] YOU KNOW.
[51:03] IT'S BY DEPARTMENT THERE'S
[51:04] LIKE YOU KNOW FIVE, 612
[51:06] DIFFERENT GOALS AND THEY HAVE
[51:07] HAVE THEY STARTED HAVE THEY NOT
[51:09] STARTED WE SHOULD SEE STARTED
[51:10] ON EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THOSE
[51:11] GOALS AT THE VERY LEAST RIGHT.
[51:13] WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED UH MOST
[51:15] OF THEM WE HAVE YOU KNOW WE'VE
[51:16] HEARD.
[51:17] I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY.
[51:18] UH QUARTERS NOW IT WAS AGO THAT
[51:19] WE MET.
[51:20] UM, HOW LONG AGO?
[51:20] THE LAST ONE WAS BUT IT'S BEEN
[51:22] A WHILE AND IT'S SPECIFICALLY
[51:23] LIKE ISD HAS JUST FAILED TO
[51:25] START ANYTHING, RIGHT?
[51:27] LIKE WE TALK ABOUT THE PLAN
[51:29] THAT MEETING JUST MENTIONED
[51:29] ABOUT MAKING SURE WE HAVE A
[51:32] LIST THAT'S ONE OF THE ISD'S
[51:33] DIRECTIVES UNDER THE UNDER FAIR
[51:34] HOUSING THAT THEY JUST HAVEN'T
[51:35] STARTED.
[51:36] AND SO THAT WOULD BE A GREAT
[51:37] EASY EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING TO
[51:38] MOVE ON.
[51:39] UM, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO
[51:41] ESTABLISH A REGISTRY OR
[51:42] DATABASE THAT WILL INCLUDE
[51:43] INFORMATION ON FAIR HOUSING AND
[51:44] YOU KNOW, UH YOU KNOW, HEALTH
[51:46] CODE VIOLATIONS AND VIOLATIONS.
[51:47] WE JUST HAVEN'T STARTED IT AND
[51:49] WE CAN GO, YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENT
[51:50] BY DEPARTMENT AND LIST THINGS
[51:51] THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN STARTED.
[51:51] AND I THINK THAT COULD BE A
[51:53] REAL TANGIBLE WAY TO DO IT.
[51:54] AND I THINK IT'S THE GREAT
[51:55] QUESTION IS HARD YOU KNOW WHAT
[51:57] OTHER CITIES ARE DOING THIS.
[51:58] SO GRADES ARE USUALLY BY YOUR
[51:59] PEERS SO YOU DON'T HAVE ANY
[52:01] OTHER CITIES DOING IT.
[52:01] NOPE I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW
[52:02] ENOUGH TO GIVE A GRADE SO I'LL
[52:04] SAY THAT BUT UM I THINK THEY
[52:05] COULD BE DOING BETTER BUT.
[52:07] UM NEEDS IMPROVEMENT.
[52:08] IT NEEDS IMPROVEMENT FOR SURE.
[52:10] UM AND UM AGAIN HOW WOULD WE
[52:12] MEASURE THAT?
[52:13] OUR COMMITTEE MEETS QUARTERLY
[52:15] AND WE HEAR THESE UPDATES.
[52:16] WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE
[52:17] REGULAR CHECK INS WITH OUR YOU
[52:19] KNOW, COUNCILORS WHO ARE
[52:19] CONCERNED ABOUT THIS TO SHARE
[52:20] HOW WE FEEL AND MAKE SURE YOU
[52:22] ALL ARE BACKING US UP ON THAT.
[52:23] SO I THINK THAT'S A TANGIBLE
[52:24] WAY.
[52:25] UH, I'LL JUST ASK GREAT GREAT.
[52:28] QUESTION AND I DON'T WANT US TO
[52:30] REINVENT THE WHEEL.
[52:32] WE HAVE HOW MANY PAGE
[52:35] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[52:36] HUNDRED PAGES OR SOME 200 PAGES
[52:40] WITH HOW MANY.
[52:40] GOALS?
[52:42] 1414 SPECIFIC GOALS.
[52:45] SO SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE
[52:47] IMPLEMENTING THE ASSESSMENT
[52:48] OF FAIR HOUSING AND MONITORING
[52:52] THE SUCCESS OF THOSE UM UH,
[52:56] CATEGORIES THAT ARE BEING
[52:58] EVALUATED AND MAYBE CHANGING
[52:59] THEM BASED ON CONDITIONS.
[53:01] SO I THINK AND I THINK IT LAYS
[53:04] OUT HOW YOU MEASURE IT.
[53:06] UM AND I JUST DON'T WANT.
[53:09] US TO GO BACK.
[53:09] FROM THE BEGINNING WE SPENT
[53:11] YEARS GETTING THAT.
[53:13] YEAH.
[53:13] NO THANK YOU.
[53:14] I GET THE CHAIR'S GIVING ME THE
[53:16] SIDE I.
[53:16] AM.
[53:17] DONE FOR MY QUESTIONS.
[53:18] I WAIT FOR MY SECOND ROUND.
[53:19] THANK YOU.
[53:19] THANK YOU COUNCIL I'M HERE OKAY
[53:22] NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO IN ORDER
[53:24] OF ARRIVAL STARTING WITH
[53:26] COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[53:29] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[53:30] THANK YOU TO THE.
[53:31] PANEL FOR THE INFORMATIVE
[53:33] TESTIMONY THAT YOU'RE PROVIDING
[53:35] BUT ALSO YOUR LEADERSHIP ON ON
[53:37] THIS ISSUE.
[53:38] LISTEN CLOSELY TO TO ALL
[53:40] OF YOU.
[53:41] UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR
[53:44] LEADERSHIP.
[53:45] UM, MY MY QUESTION MAYBE IS AS
[53:50] IT RELATES TO THE THE EQUITY
[53:52] AUDIT BUT IS IF THE CITY IS
[53:56] STALLED ON THE AUDIT, IS IT
[53:58] NECESSARY FOR YOU TO HAVE THE
[54:00] AUDIT TO UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY
[54:02] WHAT IS TAKING PLACE OR AND OR
[54:07] CAN ANY UM ORGANIZATIONS HELP
[54:12] WITH THE AUDIT IN THE MEANTIME
[54:14] WHILE IT'S BEING STALLED?
[54:16] COMMUNITY PARTNERS UH COMMUNITY
[54:17] PARTNERS ABLE TO HELP WITH THE
[54:18] AUDIT.
[54:20] I CAN.
[54:20] SAY THAT THE THERE ARE A
[54:22] NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAN BE
[54:23] DONE OUTSIDE OF THE AUDIT.
[54:25] SO WE HAVE THE ASSESSMENT WHICH
[54:26] HAS ALL THESE GOALS WHICH AS WE
[54:28] TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW YOU CAN
[54:29] KIND OF GO AND STUDY YOU KNOW
[54:30] EACH ONE OF THEM.
[54:31] BUT ASIDE FROM THAT THERE'S
[54:33] THIS AUDIT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO
[54:34] BE DONE.
[54:34] AND SO IF THE AUDIT IS
[54:37] HAPPENING THERE'S ALL THESE
[54:38] GOALS THAT CAN BE DONE IN THE
[54:39] MEANTIME.
[54:39] AND THEN IN TERMS OF UH
[54:40] ORGANIZATIONS LIKE A LOT
[54:43] OF ORGANIZATIONS.
[54:43] ARE PART OF.
[54:44] THE WORK THAT WE DO A PART
[54:45] OF THIS.
[54:45] SO I THINK WE'RE ALL KIND
[54:46] OF HAVE OUR EYE ON IT.
[54:47] UM AND SO YEAH.
[54:50] YES, SIR.
[54:51] SO I THINK THAT UM CERTAINLY
[54:53] ORGANIZATIONS CAN HELP BUT I
[54:55] YOU.
[54:55] KNOW, IT'S UM.
[54:57] IN ORDER TO.
[54:57] ARRIVE AT ANY KIND OF SOLUTION
[54:59] FOR ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO FIRST
[55:00] NAME THE PROBLEM AND PART
[55:02] OF YOU KNOW SO WE AGAIN
[55:04] EXISTING IN THIS HOUSING SPACE
[55:06] AND THE SPACE ON EQUITY I MEAN
[55:08] BOSTON HAS A HISTORY IT'S NOT
[55:09] LIKE UM WE JUST GOT UP THIS
[55:11] MORNING AND THIS MOVED TO
[55:12] BOSTON.
[55:12] BUT BOSTON HAS A HISTORY AS IT
[55:13] RELATES TO THIS KIND OF ISSUES.
[55:15] SO WE KNEW INTUITIVELY THAT
[55:16] SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE IN
[55:17] PLACE.
[55:17] BUT IF YOU HAVE A BODY LIKE SAY
[55:19] THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHO HAS
[55:20] A HUGE ROLE IN MITIGATING SOME
[55:22] OF THESE SOME OF THESE KIND
[55:23] OF CONCERNS, UM, PART.
[55:25] OF THE.
[55:26] EFFORT TO.
[55:27] KIND OF CREATE SOLUTIONS, UM.
[55:30] THAT IMPROVE PEOPLE'S.
[55:31] QUALITY OF LIFE IS FOR YOU AT
[55:33] LEAST WHAT UM ANY KIND OF ROLE
[55:36] THAT YOU MAY BE PLAYING IN
[55:38] THAT.
[55:38] THAT THAT DETRACTS FROM THAT
[55:40] BECAUSE IN SO DOING THAT YOU
[55:41] CAN IDENTIFY SOLUTIONS
[55:43] STRATEGIES THAT ACTUALLY UM.
[55:45] HELP YOU TO MEET GOALS.
[55:48] WHICH WE PRESUME THE GOAL
[55:49] WOULD.
[55:50] BE TO ENSURE.
[55:51] THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE UM WHERE
[55:54] TO CHOOSE IN THE CITY OF BOSTON
[55:55] UH, CONSTANTLY ASK EARLY WHAT
[55:56] WHAT DOES SUCCESS LOOK LIKE
[55:58] WHEN WE SPEAK IN UH IN UM IN
[56:00] THE CONTEXT OF EQUITY AND FOR
[56:02] YOUR HOUSING SUCCESS LOOKS
[56:03] LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE, UM,
[56:05] RESIDENTS OF BOSTON BEING ABLE
[56:07] TO LIVE WITH THEIR CHOOSE, YOU
[56:08] KNOW, UM, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT
[56:11] HAPPENS RIGHT NOW.
[56:12] PEOPLE CAN'T PEOPLE.
[56:14] ARE.
[56:14] MOVING BROCKTON, FALL RIVER, UM
[56:17] ,RANDOLPH ALL THESE KIND
[56:18] OF PLACES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T
[56:19] AFFORD TO LIVE IN BOSTON FOR
[56:21] WHOLE LOTS OF DIFFERENT
[56:21] REASONS.
[56:22] UM, YOU KNOW, SO SUCCESS WOULD
[56:23] LOOK LIKE PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO
[56:24] LIVE WITH EACH OTHER THE CITY
[56:26] OF BOSTON.
[56:27] BUT UM, IN TERMS OF OTHER OTHER
[56:29] ORGANIZATIONS KIND OF HELPING
[56:30] RUN THE EQUITY EQUITY AUDIT THE
[56:32] PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS A HUGE
[56:33] ROLE IN TERMS OF UM, CREATING
[56:36] POLICIES AROUND THAT PIECE AND
[56:37] IF YOU CAN'T I UM NAME AND
[56:39] IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEMS ARE
[56:41] .
[56:41] YOU CAN'T REALLY CREATE
[56:42] SOLUTIONS.
[56:42] SO THE EQUITY AUDIT IS
[56:43] INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT IN THAT
[56:45] REGARD BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU A
[56:46] UM A BLUEPRINT ON THE FLOOR
[56:48] PLAN RELATIVE TO HOW YOU GO
[56:49] ABOUT DOING THAT AND ARE YOU
[56:50] GOING TO OWN YOUR ROLE IN ANY
[56:52] THIS KIND OF ISSUES THAT THAT
[56:53] ARE IN PLACE?
[56:54] SO UM THANK YOU.
[56:55] THE FACT THAT IS.
[56:56] IMPORTANT IF I COULD ADD ONE
[56:57] THING REAL QUICK OKAY.
[56:57] YEAH.
[56:58] IS THAT IN OTHER CITIES THAT
[56:59] THEY ARE DOING AND USING THEIR
[57:01] AUDITS TO TO ACTUALLY DEFEND
[57:02] THE CITY'S COMMITMENTS TO A
[57:05] FAMILY FURTHER FAIR HOUSING
[57:06] AGAINST ATTACKS FROM THE
[57:07] FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION.
[57:08] SO IT'S ONE PIECE ONE TIDBIT I
[57:10] THINK OTHERS WILL TALK.
[57:10] MORE ABOUT THAT LATER.
[57:11] GOOD POINT.
[57:12] UM, I ALSO WANT TO
[57:13] ACKNOWLEDGE ONE OF THE
[57:14] PANELISTS MENTIONED THE WORK
[57:16] OF UM FORMER CITY
[57:18] COUNCILOR WOODY EDWARDS ON THIS
[57:20] ISSUE.
[57:20] I ALSO AGREE SHE WAS REALLY A
[57:22] CHAMPION HERE ON THE CITY
[57:23] COUNCIL.
[57:24] BUT I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
[57:25] ATTORNEY PEPPER HIS ENTIRE
[57:27] CAREER OF WORKING ON THIS
[57:29] ISSUE.
[57:29] SO THANK YOU COUNCILOR COLE
[57:31] PEPPER I DO THINK ONCE WE GET
[57:34] AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR UM AT
[57:36] FAIR HOUSING WE WAS A
[57:38] TREMENDOUS LOSS WITH BOB
[57:40] TERRELL AN OUTSTANDING
[57:41] DEDICATED CITY EMPLOYEE.
[57:42] BUT ONCE WE DO GET A AN
[57:45] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, MUCH
[57:46] OF THIS WORK CAN GO FORWARD.
[57:48] I THINK THAT WOULD DEPEND ON,
[57:51] UH, RESOURCES.
[57:52] OF COURSE.
[57:53] YOU KNOW, ONE PERSON IS NOT A
[57:55] PANACEA, UH, NO MATTER HOW.
[57:57] FABULOUS THAT PERSON IS.
[57:59] SO THE RESOURCES IS GOING TO BE
[58:00] VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ALONG THE
[58:01] LINES THAT WE'VE BEEN
[58:02] DISCUSSING.
[58:03] THE THE CHALLENGE AGAIN HERE
[58:05] FOR THE CITY OF.
[58:06] BOSTON ONE IS.
[58:07] HOW DO WE MOVE FORWARD?
[58:08] HOW DO WE PROTECT.
[58:09] WHAT WE.
[58:10] HAVE ALREADY GAINED, BUT HOW DO
[58:12] WE CONTINUE RAISING PUBLIC.
[58:13] AWARENESS ABOUT WHAT
[58:14] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[58:16] HOUSING IS?
[58:16] AND THAT FAIR HOUSING DIRECTOR
[58:18] HAS TO HAVE THE WHEREWITHAL THE
[58:19] RESOURCES TO HAVE THAT
[58:21] CONVERSATION ACROSS THE CITY
[58:22] AND ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE REGION
[58:24] IN MY OPINION.
[58:25] THANK THANK YOU.
[58:27] MY TIME IS ABOUT UP.
[58:28] I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO MY
[58:30] COLLEAGUES.
[58:30] I DON'T WANT TO ASK ANY
[58:31] QUESTIONS AFTER MY TIME IS UP.
[58:32] THANK YOU MR CHAIR.
[58:33] THANK YOU COUNCILOR I JUST
[58:35] WANNA ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE
[58:36] BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILOR.
[58:37] THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
[58:39] OKAY.
[58:40] NOW WE WILL MOVE ON WITH
[58:41] COUNCILOR AND MURPHY.
[58:42] THANK YOU.
[58:44] UM.
[58:44] THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.
[58:46] I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
[58:48] HAVE THIS HEARING TODAY.
[58:50] SO THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR AND
[58:51] THE LEAD SPONSORS FOR BRINGING
[58:53] THIS FORWARD.
[58:54] AND ALSO YOU MENTIONED
[58:55] COUNCILOR ARROYO AND I USE FROM
[58:57] THE OTHER SPONSORS OFFICE TO
[58:58] YOUR OFFICE FOR WORKING CLOSELY
[59:00] WITH THE ADVOCATES, MAKING SURE
[59:03] THAT WE GET THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN
[59:05] FRONT OF US SO WE CAN ASK THE
[59:07] RIGHT QUESTIONS AND HEAR FROM
[59:08] YOU DIRECTLY WHAT WE CAN BE
[59:10] DOING, WHAT I CAN BE DOING MORE
[59:11] TO SUPPORT THIS UM THE CITY HAS
[59:14] MADE SIGNIFICANT COMMITMENTS
[59:16] AROUND AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[59:17] FAIR HOUSING BUT COMMITMENTS
[59:19] HAVE TO BE FOLLOWED BY
[59:21] IMPLEMENTATION, MEASUREMENT AND
[59:23] ACCOUNTABILITY.
[59:24] BOSTON'S ASSESSMENT OF FAIR
[59:25] HOUSING WAS THE RESULT OF YEARS
[59:27] OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND
[59:29] THE 2022 EXECUTIVE ORDER GAVE
[59:31] THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AN
[59:33] IMPORTANT ROLE IN MONITORING
[59:34] HOW CITY DEPARTMENTS CARRY OUT
[59:35] THOSE GOALS.
[59:36] BUT BOSTON HAS CHANGED
[59:39] CONSIDERABLY SINCE MUCH OF THAT
[59:40] COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TOOK PLACE
[59:41] .
[59:42] HOUSING COSTS HAVE CONTINUED TO
[59:43] RISE, DISPLACEMENT PRESSURES
[59:45] HAVE INTENSIFIED IN PARTS
[59:48] OF THE CITY AND THE CITY ITSELF
[59:49] HAS NOW DEVELOPED A RESIDENTIAL
[59:51] DISPLACEMENT RISK MAP TO BETTER
[59:54] UNDERSTAND WHERE RESIDENTS ARE
[59:54] MOST VULNERABLE.
[59:56] WE ALSO KNOW THAT LONG STANDING
[59:59] DISPARITIES IN ACCESS TO
[1:00:00] HOMEOWNERSHIP REMAIN
[1:00:02] SIGNIFICANT.
[1:00:03] RECENT BOSTON FOUNDATION DATA
[1:00:04] SHOW HOME OWNERSHIP RATES
[1:00:06] OF ROUGHLY 73% FOR WHITE
[1:00:10] HOUSEHOLDS, COMPARED WITH 40%
[1:00:12] FOR BLACK HOUSEHOLDS AND 37%
[1:00:14] FOR LATINO HOUSEHOLDS IN
[1:00:16] GREATER BOSTON.
[1:00:17] THOSE GAPS REFLECT DECADES
[1:00:19] OF EXCLUSION AND DISCRIMINATION
[1:00:21] IN HOUSING AND LENDING.
[1:00:23] SO FOR ME TODAY THIS HEARING IS
[1:00:26] REALLY ABOUT SOME
[1:00:26] STRAIGHTFORWARD QUESTIONS WHERE
[1:00:28] ARE WE NOW?
[1:00:29] WHAT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN
[1:00:31] IMPLEMENTED, WHAT REMAINS
[1:00:32] UNFINISHED AND WHAT IS THE
[1:00:34] TIMELINE FOR THE NEXT PHASE
[1:00:35] OF THIS WORK?
[1:00:36] MANY OF YOU HAVE KIND
[1:00:37] OF TOUCHED ON A LOT OF THAT
[1:00:39] WITH YOUR I THINK VERY STRONG
[1:00:41] AND YOU KNOW, UM, GOOD UM,
[1:00:46] OVERALL LIKE OPENING.
[1:00:47] STATEMENTS AND SHARING IN THE
[1:00:48] QUESTIONS THAT SOME OF MY
[1:00:49] COUNCILORS HAVE ALREADY ASKED.
[1:00:52] ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WHICH I
[1:00:53] KNOW WE'VE ALREADY TOUCHED ON.
[1:00:55] FILLING THOSE OPEN.
[1:00:56] VACANCIES IS IMPORTANT BUT
[1:00:57] THAT'S NOT ENOUGH.
[1:00:58] ONE THING I THINK WE COULD
[1:01:01] START UM WITH MY TIME HERE IS
[1:01:03] IF WE CAME BACK HERE ONE YEAR
[1:01:05] FROM TODAY, WHAT SPECIFIC
[1:01:07] MEASURABLE CHANGES SHOULD WE
[1:01:08] EXPECT TO SEE THAT WOULD
[1:01:10] DEMONSTRATE BOSTON IS MAKING
[1:01:12] MEANINGFUL PROGRESS IN
[1:01:14] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[1:01:16] HOUSING.
[1:01:21] UM, I'LL JUST SAY I THINK A.
[1:01:24] LOT OF THE THINGS WE SAID IT
[1:01:26] WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD AN
[1:01:27] EQUITY AUDIT THAT REALLY LOOKED
[1:01:29] AT ALL THE UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS
[1:01:32] AND SEE HOW WELL WE ARE DOING
[1:01:35] ON IMPLEMENTING A SFH.
[1:01:37] UH, IF WE HAD A DIRECTOR AT THE
[1:01:39] FAIR HOUSING OFFICE AND UH
[1:01:43] STAFF AND THEY TOOK LEADERSHIP
[1:01:46] OFF OF THIS, IF WE HAD A PERSON
[1:01:49] COORDINATING THE FAIR HOUSING
[1:01:51] WORK, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP.
[1:01:52] US UM UH LOOK AT IT AND ALSO.
[1:01:57] TO ENSURE.
[1:01:58] THAT UM, I THINK ARMANI SAID
[1:02:00] THIS IN THE VERY BEGINNING.
[1:02:02] THAT UM, HOW.
[1:02:05] FAIR HOUSING SHAPES DEVELOPMENT
[1:02:07] DECISIONS IN THIS CITY.
[1:02:09] I KNOW THERE WERE LOTS
[1:02:11] OF CONCERNS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT
[1:02:13] WHO.
[1:02:14] ARE THE.
[1:02:14] NEW WHO IS THE NEW HOUSING FOR
[1:02:17] BUT WE HARDLY EVER SEE IS FAIR
[1:02:20] HOUSING BEING CONSIDERED WHEN A
[1:02:23] NEW DEVELOPMENT IS UH, BEING
[1:02:26] PROPOSED WHETHER IT'S MARKET
[1:02:27] RATE.
[1:02:28] OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHAT ARE
[1:02:31] THE.
[1:02:31] UM UH.
[1:02:32] WHAT ARE THE FAIR HOUSING
[1:02:35] IMPLICATIONS?
[1:02:36] SO I THINK WE'D LIKE TO.
[1:02:37] WHAT I WOULD ADD TO THIS.
[1:02:40] .
[1:02:41] COUNCILOR READ ALL 200 PAGES
[1:02:42] AND FELT LIKE AN EXPERT ON FAIR
[1:02:44] HOUSING LIKE US ADVOCATES AND
[1:02:46] COULD HELP US SHOW.
[1:02:47] UP TO.
[1:02:48] THOSE, UM, YOU KNOW,
[1:02:49] DEVELOPMENT DECISIONS IN THE
[1:02:50] COMMUNITIES THAT YOU REPRESENT
[1:02:51] TO ADVOCATE FOR FAIR HOUSING.
[1:02:54] UM, I THINK ALSO FROM THE CITY
[1:02:55] ANGLE IT WOULD BE MAKING SURE
[1:02:56] THAT EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT
[1:02:58] HAS INITIATED THEIR UM YOU
[1:03:01] KNOW, THE STEPS THEY NEED TO
[1:03:02] TAKE.
[1:03:02] I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN
[1:03:03] THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO
[1:03:04] INITIATE THAT WE'VE HEARD LIKE
[1:03:06] WE ARE TRYING TO CENTRALIZE ALL
[1:03:07] LIKE YOU GO TO APPLY FOR
[1:03:08] AFFORDABLE HOUSING OUR
[1:03:09] ORGANIZATION WE SIT DOWN IN OUR
[1:03:11] OFFICE, WE WELCOME PEOPLE AND
[1:03:12] WE HELP THEM WITH THEIR ENERGY
[1:03:13] BILLS APPLY FOR HOUSING AND ONE
[1:03:14] THING THAT WE SEE IS YOU HAVE
[1:03:16] TO SIT THERE AND IT'S A FULL
[1:03:17] TIME JOB TO HELP SOMEONE APPLY
[1:03:18] TO LIKE 20 DIFFERENT APPLICANT
[1:03:19] YOU KNOW APPLICATIONS AND THEN
[1:03:21] THERE'S A TWO WEEK PERIOD WHERE
[1:03:23] YOU MIGHT QUALIFY AND THEN YOU
[1:03:24] KNOW IT'S ALL OF THAT NEEDS TO
[1:03:25] BE CENTRALIZED.
[1:03:26] SO WE'RE WORKING WITH WE'VE
[1:03:27] PUSHED ON THE CITY AS A PART
[1:03:28] OF THIS ASSESSMENT TO
[1:03:29] CENTRALIZE THAT THAT TAKES
[1:03:30] TECHNOLOGY THAT I DON'T KNOW
[1:03:32] HOW TO CREATE PERSONALLY.
[1:03:33] RIGHT.
[1:03:33] THE CITY HAS TO GO OUT AND FIND
[1:03:35] THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT EXISTS
[1:03:36] AND THAT TAKES TIME.
[1:03:37] SO THERE ARE THINGS THAT TAKE
[1:03:38] TIME BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT
[1:03:39] DON'T TAKE TIME.
[1:03:39] AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
[1:03:40] THAT IN A YEAR ALL THE THINGS
[1:03:42] THAT ARE NOT THINGS THAT ARE
[1:03:43] STOPPED BY ACTUAL REASONS TO
[1:03:45] STOP ARE MOVING FORWARD AND
[1:03:47] THAT UM, THERE'S A COORDINATION
[1:03:49] AND UH AND I THINK I'VE SAID
[1:03:50] EARLIER THAT THE TRANSPARENCY
[1:03:51] AROUND WHAT IS HAPPENING I
[1:03:52] THINK WE'VE SEEN A GOOD REPORT
[1:03:53] OF FOLKS HAVING READ THEM
[1:03:54] THERE'S STATUS UPDATES ON THE
[1:03:56] UM ON THE ROLE THAT THE TICKETS
[1:03:58] PLAYED IN PUSHING FOR MORE
[1:04:00] INCLUSIONARY DEVELOPMENT UNITS
[1:04:01] ON THE ACTUALLY CONCLUSION OUR
[1:04:02] ZONING IS A BIG PART OF THIS IS
[1:04:04] HOW WE ASKED DEVELOPERS TO DO
[1:04:05] MORE TO ACTUALLY UH, FIRMLY
[1:04:07] FURTHER FAIR HOUSING IS
[1:04:08] BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE UNITS
[1:04:09] .
[1:04:09] I KNOW THAT'S BEEN A BIG TOPIC.
[1:04:10] WE NEED TO BUILD MORE OF THEM
[1:04:11] NOT LESS.
[1:04:12] AND SO THAT'S A BIG WAY THAT WE
[1:04:13] IN THE CITY HAS SHOWN THAT
[1:04:15] THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO PUSH
[1:04:15] THROUGH THIS AGENCY TO DO THAT.
[1:04:17] AND SO THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE.
[1:04:18] YEAH.
[1:04:20] SO SO THANK YOU FOR WHAT.
[1:04:21] WOULD REALLY.
[1:04:22] HELP IS UM YOU KNOW AND AND UH
[1:04:25] JAMES MENTIONED THAT AN ED IS
[1:04:27] NOT A PANACEA UM, BECAUSE IT
[1:04:29] KIND OF ED BY ITSELF WON'T
[1:04:30] SOLVE A LOT OF YOUR OWN ISSUES.
[1:04:32] THAT'LL HELP.
[1:04:32] BUT I THINK PART OF THE THE.
[1:04:33] LARGER ISSUE THOUGH.
[1:04:35] IS THAT UM, YOU COULD ASK
[1:04:36] ANY CITY DEPARTMENT UH UM, WHAT
[1:04:39] THE DEFINITION OF FAIR HOUSING
[1:04:40] EQUITY IS AND EVERYONE WOULD.
[1:04:41] HAVE A.
[1:04:42] DIFFERENT DIFFERENT
[1:04:42] DEFINITION.
[1:04:43] I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE
[1:04:44] PROBLEM SO THAT THERE HAS TO BE
[1:04:46] SOME EFFORT TO KIND OF CREATE
[1:04:47] SOME KIND OF UNIVERSAL
[1:04:48] UNDERSTANDING A FRAMEWORK WHAT
[1:04:50] DEFINES UH EQUITY, WHAT DEFINES
[1:04:51] FAIR HOUSING AND THEN HAVING
[1:04:53] SOME KIND OF UH SOME KIND
[1:04:54] OF UNDER UM WHAT SHOULD I SAY
[1:04:56] SOME KIND OF MANDATE.
[1:04:58] THAT'S DIRECTLY ACROSS.
[1:04:59] ALL ALL CITY DEPARTMENTS
[1:05:00] BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I THINK WHAT
[1:05:02] PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DO THEIR
[1:05:03] BEST TO KIND OF RESPOND TO THE
[1:05:04] THE GOALS AND.
[1:05:06] A FH.
[1:05:07] IT STILL.
[1:05:08] FEELS LIKE UH SILOED IT'S NOT
[1:05:09] REALLY INTEGRATED INTO A LARGER
[1:05:10] EQUITY UM UH KIND OF EQUITY
[1:05:12] MANDATE FOR THE CITY.
[1:05:14] SO I THINK THAT.
[1:05:15] HAS.
[1:05:16] TO BE LED BY SOMEONE SOMEONE
[1:05:17] HAS TO COORDINATE THAT OR
[1:05:18] SOMEONE HAS TO DEFINE THAT AND
[1:05:20] ONE FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE
[1:05:21] GOALS UM UH THE 14 GOALS THEY
[1:05:23] HAVE 14 GOAL CATEGORIES THAT
[1:05:24] ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND.
[1:05:25] WHAT IS 14 GOAL CATEGORIES.
[1:05:28] BUT IT'S.
[1:05:29] OVER 20 GOALS.
[1:05:30] THANK YOU.
[1:05:31] UM I KNOW MY TIME IS UP BUT ONE
[1:05:33] BIG TAKEAWAY I THINK IS ALL
[1:05:36] CITY DEPARTMENTS OFTENTIMES
[1:05:38] SOMETHING THIS BIG IT DOES TAKE
[1:05:40] EVERY DEPARTMENT AND I.
[1:05:41] THINK SOMETIMES LIKE YOU.
[1:05:42] MENTIONED IT'S NOT THE FAULT
[1:05:44] OF ANY INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT
[1:05:45] BUT HOW DO WE AS COUNCIL MAKE
[1:05:47] SURE THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE.
[1:05:49] YOU KNOW TOOLED RIGHT.
[1:05:51] WE GIVE THEM THE TOOLS.
[1:05:52] THEY NEED.
[1:05:52] AND IF THAT'S YOU KNOW, A
[1:05:55] MOTTO, YOU KNOW WHATEVER IT IS
[1:05:57] MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THEIR.
[1:05:58] DECISIONS BECAUSE MANY TIMES
[1:05:59] YOU MENTIONED ESD AND OTHER
[1:06:01] OBVIOUS ONES BUT I DO BELIEVE
[1:06:03] THAT YOU KNOW ED STRONG OUR
[1:06:05] COMMUNITY CENTERS, OUR SCHOOL
[1:06:06] DEPARTMENT EVERY DEPARTMENT
[1:06:08] PLAYS A.
[1:06:09] DEEP AND STRONG COMMITMENT AND
[1:06:10] ROLE IN TO.
[1:06:11] FAIR HOUSING.
[1:06:12] ACROSS THE CITY.
[1:06:13] SO THANK YOU CHAIR.
[1:06:15] THANK YOU COUNCILOR BREADON
[1:06:17] FLOOR IS YOURS.
[1:06:21] THANK YOU.
[1:06:22] THANK YOU MR CHAIR AND THANK
[1:06:23] YOU ALL.
[1:06:24] THIS IS A GREAT CONVERSATION A
[1:06:26] VERY, VERY IMPORTANT ONE.
[1:06:27] UM, I'D LIKE TO HONE IN ON YOU
[1:06:29] KNOW, THE ARTICLE THE UM THE
[1:06:31] ZONING AMENDMENT THAT REQUIRES
[1:06:33] MAJOR RESIDENTIAL AND MIXED
[1:06:34] USE.
[1:06:35] DEVELOPMENT TO ASSESS AND
[1:06:36] MITIGATE DISPLACEMENT RISKS AND
[1:06:38] HISTORICAL HOUSING EXCLUSION.
[1:06:40] I THINK WE'VE MANAGED TO ONE
[1:06:44] OF THE THINGS MY MY MAIDEN
[1:06:45] SPEECH WHEN I CAME INTO
[1:06:47] COUNCIL FIRST WAS ABOUT THE
[1:06:48] IMPORTANCE OF BUILDING FAMILY
[1:06:50] HOUSING UNITS DIRECTLY DESIGNED
[1:06:51] AND AMENITIES FOR FAMILIES LIKE
[1:06:54] AND THAT WAS DRIVEN BY AN
[1:06:56] EXPERIENCE I HAD ON UM,
[1:06:57] WITNESSING A DEVELOPMENT
[1:06:59] PROJECT ON A BIG PROJECT IN
[1:07:01] BRIGHTON THAT HAD 150 UNITS AND
[1:07:04] UM, SOMEONE IN THE IN THE
[1:07:07] COMMUNITY ASKED WELL WHERE'S
[1:07:08] YOUR PLAYGROUND?
[1:07:10] AND THEY SAID OUT LOUD IN FRONT
[1:07:12] OF A BIG CROWD SAID OH WE'RE
[1:07:14] NOT BUILDING FOR FAMILIES LIKE
[1:07:15] I THINK THAT'S TECHNICALLY
[1:07:17] ILLEGAL.
[1:07:19] BUT ANYWAY UM SO AS TO YOUR
[1:07:22] POINT EARLIER ABOUT BUILDING
[1:07:23] STUDIOS ONE BEDROOMS WE I THINK
[1:07:25] FOR US THE CHALLENGE AND THAT
[1:07:27] HAS BEEN AND I THINK WE'RE
[1:07:29] MAKING SOME PROGRESS UH, TO GET
[1:07:31] DEVELOPERS TO BUILD MORE UM
[1:07:33] UNITS THAT ARE AT LEAST CAPABLE
[1:07:35] OF HOUSING A SMALL FAMILY A TWO
[1:07:37] BEDROOM IS BETTER THAN A
[1:07:38] STUDIO.
[1:07:39] AND A THREE BEDROOM IS
[1:07:40] DEFINITELY BETTER THAN A ONE
[1:07:42] BEDROOM IF YOU HAVE IF YOU HAVE
[1:07:44] KIDS.
[1:07:44] BUT TO YOUR POINT JUST HOW CAN
[1:07:48] WE HOW CAN WE WHAT'S THE VISION
[1:07:51] ON HOW TO INTEGRATE FAIR
[1:07:52] HOUSING ACROSS THE DIFFERENT
[1:07:53] DEPARTMENTS AND REALLY AND IN
[1:07:55] THIS MOMENT OF SORT OF REALLY
[1:07:57] DIFFICULTY IN TERMS OF DRIVING
[1:08:00] AND GETTING DEVELOPMENT BUILT,
[1:08:02] UM, HOW CAN WE MANAGE TO
[1:08:04] NAVIGATE THAT AND STILL INSIST
[1:08:06] ON OUR IDP UNITS LIKE THE FIRST
[1:08:08] THING ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK I
[1:08:09] THINK IS OUR IDP UNITS THAT
[1:08:11] WE'VE FOUGHT SO HARD TO GET AND
[1:08:13] WE'VE ALSO FOUGHT TO GET A
[1:08:14] RANGE OF AFFORDABILITY IN
[1:08:16] AUSTIN, BRIGHTON IN 2016 2019
[1:08:20] THE IDP UNITS WERE PEGGED AT
[1:08:21] 70% OF THE AM I EVEN THOUGH THE
[1:08:24] MEDIAN INCOME IN ALLSTON
[1:08:25] BRIGHTON WAS WAS 45 TO 50%
[1:08:28] OF THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
[1:08:30] SO WE'RE BUILDING HOUSING THAT
[1:08:31] NONE OF US KNOW PEOPLE PEOPLE
[1:08:33] COULDN'T AFFORD IN ALL US IN
[1:08:34] BRIGHTON.
[1:08:34] SO UM LIKE HOW DO WE MANAGE
[1:08:37] THIS MOMENT OF CRISIS LIKE
[1:08:39] INSIST THAT WE KEEP OUR IDP
[1:08:41] UNITS AND AND HOPEFULLY GET
[1:08:43] SOMETHING BUILT BUT ANY
[1:08:45] THOUGHTS?
[1:08:45] AND ALSO YOU SAID IN YOUR
[1:08:47] COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT YOU KNOW
[1:08:49] ,NO REPORTS THAT THERE'S SOME
[1:08:52] DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE JUST NOT
[1:08:53] GETTING ANY DATA FROM LIKE I'D
[1:08:54] LOVE TO GET HEAR MORE ABOUT
[1:08:55] THAT AS WELL.
[1:08:57] SO SO THIS IS UH I THINK.
[1:09:00] THE.
[1:09:00] THE ISSUE THE QUESTION THE
[1:09:01] CHALLENGE THAT YOU'RE RAISING
[1:09:02] IS BEING FACED BY CITIES ACROSS
[1:09:05] THE COUNTRY.
[1:09:06] OF COURSE.
[1:09:08] UH UH I GUESS I.
[1:09:09] WOULD HAVE.
[1:09:10] TWO QUICK RESPONSES BUT THIS IS
[1:09:12] YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TAKE MUCH
[1:09:13] MORE THOUGHT TO TO GET AT
[1:09:15] SOMETHING UH, CONCRETE IN
[1:09:17] RESPONSE.
[1:09:18] BUT TWO QUICK.
[1:09:20] UH THOUGHTS IS ONE UH AS WE AS
[1:09:23] THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[1:09:26] UH UH INDICATES UH.
[1:09:28] WE HAVE.
[1:09:29] TO RAISE CONSCIOUSNESS ABOUT
[1:09:32] HOW.
[1:09:32] ALL THESE FIELDS.
[1:09:34] OF LIFE ARE INTERCONNECTED.
[1:09:36] UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER,
[1:09:38] HOUSING IS NOT JUST HOUSING.
[1:09:39] HOUSING IS EVERYTHING.
[1:09:40] ELSE AND.
[1:09:42] EVERYTHING ELSE IS HOUSING.
[1:09:43] AND SO HOW.
[1:09:44] DO WE TO MEET THE CHALLENGE.
[1:09:46] WOULD BE.
[1:09:47] HOW DO WE.
[1:09:47] GET PEOPLE TO THINK MORE
[1:09:48] ALONG THAT LINE?
[1:09:49] CITY LEADERS.
[1:09:50] BUT.
[1:09:50] ALSO THE CITY DEPARTMENT HEADS
[1:09:52] UH AND PERHAPS PERHAPS THIS IS
[1:09:54] A UH QUICK EXAMPLE.
[1:09:57] UH, IN BOSTON WE HAVE.
[1:09:59] VERY, VERY HIGH.
[1:10:01] BLACK AND BROWN YOUTH
[1:10:03] UNEMPLOYMENT RATES SOMETHING
[1:10:04] THAT WE DON'T TALK ABOUT.
[1:10:05] WE USED TO TALK ABOUT A LOT BUT
[1:10:06] NOW WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT.
[1:10:07] WHEN YOU LOOK AT.
[1:10:08] BLACK YOUTH UNEMPLOYMENT.
[1:10:10] RATES AND LATINO.
[1:10:12] UH.
[1:10:13] MOSTLY MALES.
[1:10:14] BUT.
[1:10:14] NOT EXCLUSIVELY MALES
[1:10:15] UNEMPLOYMENT RATES.
[1:10:16] THEY STILL ARE 2.
[1:10:18] OR 3 TIMES HIGHER.
[1:10:20] THAN THE EMPLOYMENT RATES
[1:10:21] OF COMPARABLE WHITES WHO ARE
[1:10:22] NOT LATINO OR LATINO.
[1:10:24] AND SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
[1:10:26] WELL, HOW WOULD THIS
[1:10:29] CONSCIOUSNESS OF INTO SECTORAL.
[1:10:31] THINKING BE DEALT WITH?
[1:10:33] WELL WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN
[1:10:35] PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
[1:10:36] WE HAVE INVESTMENTS IN ALL
[1:10:38] KINDS OF THINGS.
[1:10:39] WHEN DO WE START.
[1:10:40] ASKING HOW DO WE USE THOSE.
[1:10:41] INVESTMENTS MAYBE TO INCREASE
[1:10:43] ACCESS TO APPRENTICESHIP
[1:10:44] PROGRAMS?
[1:10:45] HOW DO WE USE.
[1:10:46] THOSE INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC
[1:10:47] TRANSPORTATION TO SAY WE.
[1:10:49] WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE.
[1:10:50] JOBS THAT ARE GENERATED BY IT
[1:10:52] DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PUBLIC
[1:10:54] TRANSPORTATION, IT COULD BE
[1:10:55] HOUSING.
[1:10:55] I EVALUATED I EVALUATED THE.
[1:10:57] DEMONSTRATION DISPOSITION
[1:10:59] PROGRAM AS YOU KNOW, CITY
[1:11:01] COUNCILOR CULPEPER.
[1:11:02] AND WE MADE STRONG.
[1:11:03] CONNECTIONS BETWEEN ANYTHING
[1:11:04] THAT WAS BEING BUILT.
[1:11:06] IN SECTION.
[1:11:06] THREE THAT IS EMPLOYMENT FOR.
[1:11:09] LOCAL RESIDENTS.
[1:11:10] AND IT WAS A SUCCESS.
[1:11:11] AND SO WE HAVE TO START
[1:11:12] THINKING.
[1:11:12] MORE ALONG.
[1:11:13] THAT LINES PERHAPS ANOTHER
[1:11:15] EXAMPLE AND BY.
[1:11:16] THE.
[1:11:16] WAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE
[1:11:17] UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES THIS IS
[1:11:19] NOT YOU KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE.
[1:11:21] THEY'VE BEEN GOING UP AND DOWN.
[1:11:22] THEY'VE BEEN CONSISTENTLY A
[1:11:23] GAP.
[1:11:24] IN THE.
[1:11:25] CITY OF BOSTON WITH WHITE
[1:11:27] UNEMPLOYMENT AND WHITE
[1:11:28] EMPLOYMENT RATES.
[1:11:29] UH, BUT ANOTHER.
[1:11:31] EXAMPLE THAT I'VE BEEN THINKING
[1:11:33] ABOUT LATELY BASED ON SOME.
[1:11:35] WORK I DID WITH DUDLEY STREET.
[1:11:36] NEIGHBORHOOD INITIATIVE.
[1:11:37] ON COMMUNITY LAND TRUST AND.
[1:11:38] COMMUNITY WEALTH.
[1:11:40] IS ONE OF THE FIGURES THAT I
[1:11:41] CAME ACROSS IS THE NUMBER.
[1:11:44] OF VACANT UNITS IN BOSTON.
[1:11:45] THAT ARE OFF THE MARKET.
[1:11:47] NOT VACANT UNITS.
[1:11:48] THAT ARE FOR SALE OR FOR
[1:11:50] RENTING.
[1:11:51] THEY'RE OFF THE MARKET AND
[1:11:52] THERE.
[1:11:53] ARE HUNDREDS OF VACANT UNITS
[1:11:54] .
[1:11:54] SO HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT THAT
[1:11:56] AS.
[1:11:56] A RESOURCE AS AN ASSET?
[1:11:58] HOW DO WE SAY WE'RE GOING TO
[1:11:59] WE'RE GOING TO TAKE.
[1:12:00] ON THOSE VACANT UNITS.
[1:12:01] AND INVEST IN THOSE VACANT
[1:12:03] UNITS IN SOME WAY.
[1:12:04] SOMEHOW THAT'S GOING TO MAKE
[1:12:06] THE CITY BETTER.
[1:12:07] SO I'M I GUESS.
[1:12:08] I'M SUGGESTING IT.
[1:12:08] MAYBE IN.
[1:12:09] A SIMPLISTIC WAY THAT UH
[1:12:11] THAT'S THE KIND
[1:12:12] OF CONSCIOUSNESS THAT'S THE
[1:12:13] KIND OF NARRATIVE THAT'S THE
[1:12:14] KIND OF DISCUSSIONS WE NEED TO
[1:12:15] HAVE TO MOVE THE CITY FORWARD.
[1:12:17] SO IN TERMS OF NEEDING.
[1:12:18] IMPROVEMENT THAT WOULD BE MY
[1:12:20] VOTE.
[1:12:22] THANK YOU.
[1:12:24] GO AHEAD.
[1:12:24] YEAH.
[1:12:25] IF YOU SAY THAT DIRECTLY
[1:12:26] RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTION AROUND
[1:12:27] INCLUSIONARY ZONING LIKE IN
[1:12:29] THIS MOMENT WHERE THINGS ARE
[1:12:30] TOUGH.
[1:12:30] I MEAN THE CITY OF BOSTON DID
[1:12:32] NOT CREATE THE HIGH COST OF UH
[1:12:34] ,STEEL AND THE DID NOT CREATE
[1:12:35] THE TOWER SITUATION DID NOT
[1:12:36] CREATE ALL OF THE FEDERAL
[1:12:37] ISSUES THAT FRANKLY A LOT
[1:12:39] OF THE PEOPLE.
[1:12:39] WHO.
[1:12:40] ARE POOR.
[1:12:40] DEVELOPMENT I'M NOT GOING TO
[1:12:42] REALLY FULLY GO THERE, BUT I
[1:12:43] FEEL LIKE THE PEOPLE WHO
[1:12:44] SUPPORTED DEVELOPMENT NEED TO
[1:12:45] PUT MORE CRITICISM MAYBE
[1:12:46] TOWARDS THE PERSON WHO HAS MORE
[1:12:47] CONTROL OF.
[1:12:47] THE FEDERAL.
[1:12:48] GOVERNMENT AND LEAVE
[1:12:49] INCLUSIONARY ZONING ALONE.
[1:12:51] UM, WE NEED LIKE THE CITY
[1:12:53] OF BOSTON THAT'S THEIR MAIN
[1:12:54] TOOL THAT ALLOWS FOR FAIR
[1:12:56] HOUSING TO BE IMPLEMENTED.
[1:12:57] SO YOU CAN'T BE BOTH ANTI
[1:12:59] INCLUSIONARY ZONING TO BUILD
[1:13:00] HOUSING FOR YOU KNOW YOU KNOW
[1:13:03] IMAGINARY PEOPLE BUT THEN SAY
[1:13:04] THAT YOU'RE FOR FAIR HOUSING
[1:13:06] WINNING UM SO IT JUST DOESN'T
[1:13:07] WORK.
[1:13:07] SO I.
[1:13:08] THINK THAT'S THE THING THAT
[1:13:09] NEEDS TO BE DEFENDED AND AND IT
[1:13:10] GETS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS IT'S
[1:13:11] ALREADY HAPPENING TO TO A
[1:13:13] CERTAIN EXTENT AND WE HAVE
[1:13:14] THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH
[1:13:15] DEPARTMENTS COMMON AT ONE POINT
[1:13:17] DEPARTMENTS ACTUALLY GOT TO
[1:13:18] LISTEN IN ON WHAT OTHER
[1:13:19] DEPARTMENTS WERE DOING AND I
[1:13:21] THINK THAT WAS A I THINK A UH
[1:13:22] CAPACITY LIKE OURS TIME
[1:13:24] BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ALL THESE
[1:13:25] DEPARTMENT HEADS YOU CAN BARELY
[1:13:26] GET A MEETING ONE ON ONE LET
[1:13:28] ALONE ALL THEM TOGETHER.
[1:13:28] BUT THAT KIND OF CONVENING
[1:13:29] POWER IS WHAT THE MAYOR HAS AND
[1:13:31] A STRONG LEADER SYSTEM.
[1:13:32] AND I THINK THAT COULD BE USED
[1:13:33] TO MAKE SURE THOSE DEPARTMENTS
[1:13:35] UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING
[1:13:36] ACROSS THEM.
[1:13:36] AND IT REALLY JUST NEEDS TO BE
[1:13:38] A DIRECTIVE FROM ON HIGH I
[1:13:39] THINK YOU KNOW WE HEAR LIKE
[1:13:40] MINIMUM DONNIE TALK, YOU.
[1:13:41] KNOW VERY FERVENTLY ABOUT FAIR
[1:13:43] HOUSING AND THE NEED FOR BLACK
[1:13:44] FAMILIES AND UH, PEOPLE HARMED
[1:13:46] BY FAIR HOUSING TO TO EXIST.
[1:13:47] UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE
[1:13:49] INCLUSIONARY ZONING WITHOUT
[1:13:49] THAT YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF MARKET
[1:13:51] RATE HOUSING BEING BUILT
[1:13:52] BASICALLY ALLOWING SEGREGATION
[1:13:54] TO AS A CITY POLICY.
[1:13:55] AND SO I THINK THE CITY NEEDS
[1:13:57] TO COME OUT AND SAY NO, WE'RE
[1:13:57] ANTI SEGREGATION LIKE WE'RE PRO
[1:13:59] UH MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE
[1:14:00] FAIR HOUSING.
[1:14:03] SO THANK YOU.
[1:14:03] CAME UP THANK YOU.
[1:14:06] AND I'M SORRY FOR BEING SO
[1:14:08] STRICT ON TIME IT JUST I'M GLAD
[1:14:09] TO SEE THE CHAMBER FULL WITH MY
[1:14:10] COLLEAGUES AND I WANT TO MAKE
[1:14:11] SURE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE TO
[1:14:12] SPEAK.
[1:14:13] UM, OKAY.
[1:14:14] NEXT UP I HAVE COUNCILOR WEBER
[1:14:16] .
[1:14:16] OKAY.
[1:14:17] YEAH, UH, FOLLOWING.
[1:14:18] UP ON ARMANI'S POINT.
[1:14:21] .
[1:14:21] RIGHT.
[1:14:21] SO I.
[1:14:22] UH.
[1:14:22] A LAW PROFESSOR.
[1:14:23] UH.
[1:14:24] I WAS I REMEMBER ASKING.
[1:14:25] HIM.
[1:14:25] YOU KNOW, FOR MINIMUM WAGE.
[1:14:27] UH, YOU KNOW, IS IT BETTER TO,
[1:14:30] YOU.
[1:14:31] KNOW.
[1:14:31] EVEN HAVE A JOB EVEN.
[1:14:32] IF PAYS LESS THAN MINIMUM
[1:14:33] WAGE?
[1:14:33] AND HE SAID THINK.
[1:14:35] OF IT AS LIKE A.
[1:14:36] AS A BUSINESS.
[1:14:36] EFFICIENCY STANDARD IF YOU.
[1:14:38] CAN'T.
[1:14:38] HAVE A BUSINESS THAT.
[1:14:39] PAYS MINIMUM WAGE WE DON'T WANT
[1:14:40] YOU IN BUSINESS.
[1:14:40] SO I KIND OF THINK.
[1:14:41] ABOUT INCLUSIONARY.
[1:14:43] ZONING IN THE SAME WAY LIKE IF
[1:14:44] YOU CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO
[1:14:45] BUILD HOUSING WITH AFFORDABLE
[1:14:47] UNITS LIKE.
[1:14:48] WE DON'T.
[1:14:49] WANT YOU IN THE DEVELOPMENT.
[1:14:51] BUSINESS HERE IN BOSTON.
[1:14:52] BUT I GUESS TO THE OTHER.
[1:14:53] PANELISTS YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE
[1:14:54] THIS DISCUSSION ABOUT.
[1:14:56] IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE TO BUILD
[1:14:58] HOUSING AND.
[1:14:59] YOU KNOW WE NEED TO.
[1:14:59] BRING THESE REQUIREMENTS DOWN
[1:15:01] I.
[1:15:01] GUESS WHAT.
[1:15:02] WOULD YOU HAVE TO.
[1:15:03] SAY TO US THAT.
[1:15:04] WE HEARD.
[1:15:05] FROM OUR I MEAN, THAT BIG
[1:15:06] LOT THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IN THE
[1:15:07] BIG CENTRAL PIECE OF THAT
[1:15:08] ARGUMENT AROUND LIKE IN
[1:15:09] CAMBRIDGE LIKE THERE'S A BIG
[1:15:10] LOT A DEVELOPER COULDN'T BUILD
[1:15:11] BECAUSE OF INCLUSIONARY
[1:15:12] DEVELOPMENT.
[1:15:13] THAT LOT WASN'T BUILT BY THAT
[1:15:15] DEVELOPER WITH, YOU KNOW, BARE
[1:15:16] MINIMUM AFFORDABILITY BUT IT'S
[1:15:18] NOW BEING BOUGHT BY AFFORDABLE
[1:15:20] HOUSING DEVELOPER AND DOING 66
[1:15:21] UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[1:15:23] SO MAYBE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:15:25] DEVELOPERS NEED TO TAKE THE
[1:15:25] LEAD ON DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY
[1:15:27] IF PRIVATE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT
[1:15:29] ABLE TO DO IT.
[1:15:32] ANYONE ELSE YOU KNOW?
[1:15:34] UH YEAH I.
[1:15:35] THINK I THINK UM.
[1:15:38] UH THAT WE NEED TO AGAIN.
[1:15:42] LOOK TOWARDS INNOVATION TO A
[1:15:44] CERTAIN EXTENT.
[1:15:44] AND THERE MAY BE THINGS.
[1:15:46] POTENTIAL INNOVATIONS THAT
[1:15:47] WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT.
[1:15:48] I MENTIONED THE VACANT UNITS
[1:15:50] GOVERNMENT CAN HELP.
[1:15:51] DEVELOP THOSE VACANT UNITS.
[1:15:53] INTO AFFORDABLE SPACES.
[1:15:56] UH.
[1:15:57] WE NEED TO.
[1:16:00] UH TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT IT IS
[1:16:02] VERY COSTLY TO BUILD, BUT
[1:16:05] PERHAPS THAT CALLS FOR A.
[1:16:06] GREATER GOVERNMENT.
[1:16:08] LEADERSHIP AND INVOLVEMENT WITH
[1:16:10] SUBSIDIES.
[1:16:11] OR ALL KINDS OF ECONOMIC.
[1:16:13] UH.
[1:16:14] TOOLS THAT CAN PERHAPS LOWER
[1:16:16] THE COSTS.
[1:16:17] UH.
[1:16:18] THE BUT WHAT I WOULD SAY TO
[1:16:20] THE DEVELOPERS IS THAT WE
[1:16:21] SHOULD NOT GET INTO A ZERO SUM
[1:16:23] SITUATION THAT IS YOU BUILD BUT
[1:16:26] THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE HOMES.
[1:16:27] AND I THINK.
[1:16:29] WE HAVE TO COME TO THE TABLE
[1:16:31] DEBATE.
[1:16:31] INTENSIVELY PERHAPS BUT FIGURE
[1:16:32] OUT HOW TO MOVE.
[1:16:33] FORWARD BECAUSE UH, WE CANNOT
[1:16:36] HAVE A CITY IN BOSTON.
[1:16:38] WHERE UH.
[1:16:40] AGAIN UH.
[1:16:41] DEVELOPMENT UH BASICALLY.
[1:16:44] IS COULD.
[1:16:44] CHANGE THE FACE OF BOSTON
[1:16:45] AND THE PROGRESS.
[1:16:46] THAT WE'VE MADE.
[1:16:47] AS LINCOLN.
[1:16:48] MENTIONED, PEOPLE.
[1:16:49] ARE.
[1:16:49] LEAVING THE CITY NOT JUST
[1:16:50] MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE BUT ALSO
[1:16:51] WORKING CLASS PEOPLE.
[1:16:52] THIS THAT'S A.
[1:16:54] MAJOR ECONOMIC THREAT TO THE
[1:16:55] SURVIVAL OF THE CITY.
[1:16:56] AND SO YES, WE.
[1:16:59] UNDERSTAND COSTS HAVE GONE UP
[1:17:01] BUT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW
[1:17:02] TO ACCOMMODATE THAT WITH.
[1:17:04] UH WITH WITH NOT GOING
[1:17:06] BACKWARDS ON THE COMMITMENT
[1:17:07] WE'VE MADE TO HELP PEOPLE WHO
[1:17:11] ARE.
[1:17:11] AT CERTAIN COST.
[1:17:13] ONE THAT HAS ONE CITY WHICH IS
[1:17:16] THERE'S.
[1:17:16] NOTHING IN THE FAIR HOUSING
[1:17:19] LAWS THAT SAYS EXCEPT IF IT'S
[1:17:22] ECONOMICALLY NOT FEASIBLE.
[1:17:24] AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY
[1:17:26] IMPORTANT WE CAN ALWAYS USE THE
[1:17:30] ECONOMICS AS AN EXCUSE TO DENY
[1:17:32] PEOPLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES
[1:17:34] AND THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT.
[1:17:37] WE WANT.
[1:17:38] TO DO AS A CITY AS.
[1:17:40] UH A COUNTRY IT DOESN'T MEET
[1:17:43] OUR VALUES AND I THINK THE LAW
[1:17:45] IS CLEAR YOU HAVE TO ENSURE
[1:17:49] EQUAL OPPORTUNITY AND HOUSING
[1:17:50] AND THAT MEANS DIFFERENT THINGS
[1:17:52] .
[1:17:52] IT'S LIKE.
[1:17:53] WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE
[1:17:55] BEDROOM SIZE IF YOU HAVE THE
[1:17:58] NEEDS OF FAMILIES WITH TWO AND
[1:18:00] THREE KIDS BUILDING ONE BEDROOM
[1:18:03] HOUSING ONLY DISCRIMINATES
[1:18:06] AGAINST THOSE FAMILIES.
[1:18:08] SO UH, I, I UNDERSTAND THE
[1:18:12] TENSION AND I REALLY APPRECIATE
[1:18:14] IT, BUT I DON'T THINK WE COULD
[1:18:16] LET OUR, UH, FAIR HOUSING
[1:18:19] COMMITMENTS, UH, YOU KNOW, GIVE
[1:18:20] WAY TO WHAT'S ECONOMICALLY
[1:18:22] FEASIBLE FOR DEVELOPERS.
[1:18:24] AND IF I CAN JUST ADD SOMETHING
[1:18:25] GREAT QUICKLY JUST A FOOTNOTE
[1:18:28] ACTUALLY.
[1:18:28] I THINK.
[1:18:28] THIS WAS IN THE BAY STATE.
[1:18:29] BANNER BUT.
[1:18:31] WE ALSO HAVE.
[1:18:32] EXAMPLES OF DEVELOPMENTS.
[1:18:33] WELL.
[1:18:34] VERY PRO AFFORDABILITY.
[1:18:35] YES.
[1:18:35] AND SO.
[1:18:36] MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK TO THEM
[1:18:37] AND BRING.
[1:18:37] THEM TO THE TABLE AND SAY HOW.
[1:18:39] IS IT THAT.
[1:18:39] YOU BUILT THIS I FORGET
[1:18:40] WHERE SOMEPLACE IN IT UH IT'S.
[1:18:43] SOMEWHERE JP.
[1:18:44] I MAYBE.
[1:18:45] WITH JP I FORGET BUT IT WAS
[1:18:46] JUST A DAY.
[1:18:47] OR TWO.
[1:18:47] AGO AND IT'S NOT THE ONLY
[1:18:49] INSTANCE THAT I'VE COME ACROSS
[1:18:51] INFORMATION ABOUT DEVELOPERS
[1:18:52] WHO ARE COMMITTED TO
[1:18:54] AFFORDABILITY.
[1:18:55] THEY'RE NOT THE BIG TIME
[1:18:56] DEVELOPERS.
[1:18:57] BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK.
[1:18:58] TO THEM TO SAY WELL.
[1:18:59] HOW DO YOU DO IT?
[1:19:02] BECAUSE UH.
[1:19:02] THEY'RE DOING IT TO A
[1:19:03] CERTAIN EXTENT.
[1:19:03] IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
[1:19:06] AND I MEAN I THINK PART OF IT
[1:19:08] IS UM, SO THE DEVELOPERS.
[1:19:10] ARE FOR THE MOST PART.
[1:19:11] ARE KIND OF UM GROUNDED IN WHAT
[1:19:13] WORKS FOR THEM.
[1:19:15] SO THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD UH,
[1:19:16] BASED ON THEIR BOTTOM LINE
[1:19:18] EXCEPT LIKE CDC IS WE HAVE A
[1:19:19] DIFFERENT FRAMEWORK BUT.
[1:19:21] I THINK THERE'S A.
[1:19:22] ROLE FOR.
[1:19:22] GOVERNMENT TO PLAY IT AND I
[1:19:23] CAN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY WHAT.
[1:19:24] THE ROLE IS, BUT I THINK
[1:19:25] GOVERNMENT.
[1:19:26] GOVERNMENT OFTENTIMES THINKS
[1:19:27] WELL, UM, THIS IS NOT OUR
[1:19:29] SPACE.
[1:19:30] WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO
[1:19:31] X AND.
[1:19:32] BUT BUT I THINK THAT.
[1:19:34] THAT PERSPECTIVE.
[1:19:35] KIND.
[1:19:36] OF A000.
[1:19:37] FROM REALLY BEING INNOVATIVE
[1:19:38] AND KIND OF THINKING THROUGH
[1:19:39] DIFFERENT THINGS THAT.
[1:19:40] CAN.
[1:19:40] GET DONE BECAUSE YOU'RE SITTING
[1:19:41] AROUND SAYING SAYING YOU KNOW,
[1:19:42] UM, THIS IS NOT MY DOMAIN.
[1:19:43] I CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
[1:19:44] SO THEN YOU ARE JUST UM FOR THE
[1:19:46] MOST PART UM, YOUR REACTIVE.
[1:19:49] TO WHAT.
[1:19:51] DEVELOPERS ARE GOING TO DO NOW.
[1:19:52] UM I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE UM
[1:19:55] CONSOLE WORLD IS WORKING ON
[1:19:56] SOME KIND OF ORDINANCE SB UH
[1:19:57] SPECIAL PROTECTIONS ON
[1:19:58] ORDINANCE UM AND SO ON AND SO
[1:20:00] FORTH.
[1:20:00] BUT I THINK.
[1:20:01] A LARGE PART OF THAT IS HOW.
[1:20:03] YOU MENTIONED INNOVATION
[1:20:04] EARLIER AND UM AND THAT COULD
[1:20:06] TAKE UM ON MANY DIFFERENT ROLES
[1:20:08] BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IF.
[1:20:09] GOVERNMENT IS SITTING AROUND
[1:20:10] SAYING WE CAN'T DO X.
[1:20:13] THEN THEN YOU CAN'T DO X, YOU
[1:20:15] KNOW, SO HOW DO YOU SHIFT.
[1:20:16] THE FRAME.
[1:20:17] AND REALLY UTILIZE.
[1:20:19] THE.
[1:20:19] POWER THAT.
[1:20:19] YOU HAVE.
[1:20:20] TO ACTUALLY MAKE SOME OF THESE
[1:20:21] CHANGES HAPPEN?
[1:20:22] I MEAN I THINK THERE'S A SPACE
[1:20:23] OF GOVERNMENT TO BE INVOLVED,
[1:20:24] UM THE KIND OF PUSH DEVELOPERS
[1:20:25] GOT TO DO THE RIGHT THING BUT
[1:20:27] YOU CAN'T DO IT IF YOU'RE
[1:20:28] SITTING THERE AND SAYING WELL.
[1:20:29] I.
[1:20:29] CAN'T DO ANYTHING.
[1:20:30] I JUST NEED US DO THIS, OKAY?
[1:20:32] THANK YOU.
[1:20:33] THANKS TO THE PANEL FOR
[1:20:35] FILIBUSTERING.
[1:20:35] ME, BUT, UH.
[1:20:39] UH THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
[1:20:40] CHAIR I THINK I'M.
[1:20:42] REALLY LUCKY WE'RE NOT THE U.S.
[1:20:44] SENATE.
[1:20:44] IT WAS NOT INTENTIONAL.
[1:20:46] BUT NOW THANK YOU FOR YOUR
[1:20:48] ANSWERS.
[1:20:49] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
[1:20:53] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:20:54] APPRECIATE IT.
[1:20:55] UH, AND THANK.
[1:20:56] YOU, PANEL, FOR BEING WITH
[1:20:57] US HERE TODAY.
[1:20:58] UM, FIRST I WANT TO.
[1:20:59] SAY I THINK THANK YOU.
[1:21:00] OF UH.
[1:21:01] CONTINUING THE CENTER UH.
[1:21:02] FAIR HOUSING RIGHTS.
[1:21:04] AS AN INTERSECTION OF EDUCATION
[1:21:06] ,OF PUBLIC HEALTH, OF UH
[1:21:08] OF PUBLIC SAFETY.
[1:21:09] UH, I THINK IT'S CONTINUE TO TO
[1:21:11] TO VIEW IT IN THAT LENS THAT IT
[1:21:13] REALLY IS UH A BROADER UH, SORT
[1:21:16] OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE TALKING
[1:21:17] ABOUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY WE
[1:21:19] HAVE FAIR HOUSING AND WHAT IT
[1:21:20] ATTRIBUTES.
[1:21:21] TO UM SO THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS
[1:21:22] JUST KEEPING THAT AT THE
[1:21:23] CENTER.
[1:21:24] IT HELPS ME.
[1:21:24] STAY FOCUSED AS WELL.
[1:21:26] UM.
[1:21:27] A COUPLE OF THINGS.
[1:21:28] UH, AND I GUESS I'LL GET MY
[1:21:30] QUESTIONS OUT BEFORE I LET YOU
[1:21:31] GUYS ANSWER SHOT AND IT'LL GIVE
[1:21:33] YOU GUYS TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT
[1:21:34] AS WELL.
[1:21:35] RIGHT.
[1:21:36] UM.
[1:21:36] BUT ONE THING I WANTED TO
[1:21:38] THINK ABOUT.
[1:21:38] WAS, UH, ARE THERE ANY STATS
[1:21:39] THAT STAND OUT TO YOU THAT ARE
[1:21:41] THE MOST CONCERNING OR TELLING?
[1:21:43] SO I'LL GIVE YOU A SET TO THINK
[1:21:44] ABOUT JUST WHEN YOU THINK OF.
[1:21:45] THIS WHAT IS WHAT ARE STATS.
[1:21:46] THAT YOU'RE WORKING OFF
[1:21:47] OF THAT SAYS THIS SOUNDS AN
[1:21:48] ALARM FOR ME.
[1:21:50] UM, OF THE 14 GOALS I KNOW
[1:21:51] HERE.
[1:21:52] IN THE CITY'S PRESENTATION THEY
[1:21:53] HAVE THE 14 GOALS LISTED OUT.
[1:21:55] I'D BE.
[1:21:55] INTERESTED KNOWING UH AND YOU
[1:21:57] DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER NOW, BUT
[1:21:58] MAYBE IF YOU GUYS COULD REACH
[1:21:59] OUT.
[1:21:59] UH, THE ORDER IN WHICH.
[1:22:01] YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THOSE
[1:22:02] 14 GOALS, RIGHT?
[1:22:03] BECAUSE AS WITH EVERY ISSUE WE
[1:22:05] HAVE IN THIS CITY, UH, THERE'S
[1:22:07] ONLY SO MUCH TO.
[1:22:08] GO AROUND AND WE CAN'T SAY ALL
[1:22:10] 14 CAN BE THE PRIORITY.
[1:22:12] UM, AND SO I.
[1:22:13] GUESS IN OTHER WORDS SAYING
[1:22:14] MAYBE LIKE THE TOP FIVE LIKE.
[1:22:15] WHAT IS THE TOP.
[1:22:15] THIRD OF THESE THAT IF WE IF WE
[1:22:17] WERE.
[1:22:18] ABLE TO WHAT WOULD DO THE MOST.
[1:22:20] IMPACT UH WITH THE MONEY THAT
[1:22:22] WE HAVE AND THE SERVICES WE CAN
[1:22:24] PROVIDE THAT YOU THINK WOULD
[1:22:25] PROVIDE THE MOST IMPACT
[1:22:26] OF THOSE 14 GOALS?
[1:22:28] UM, UH, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE
[1:22:31] WAS WOULD THERE BE UM THERE'S
[1:22:32] SO MANY OTHER DEPARTMENTS
[1:22:33] INVOLVED.
[1:22:34] WE TALKED ABOUT COORDINATION
[1:22:35] A LOT IN THIS.
[1:22:35] RIGHT.
[1:22:37] UM THINK ABOUT THE OTHER.
[1:22:38] DEPARTMENTS YOU HAVE HOUSING
[1:22:39] THE BAY OF PLANNING AND YOU SAY
[1:22:41] THEY EACH SORT OF HAVE THEIR
[1:22:42] OWN LITTLE UH, INDIVIDUAL FAIR
[1:22:44] HOUSING PEOPLE WITHIN.
[1:22:45] DO YOU FEEL WOULD BE BETTER.
[1:22:47] IF FAIR HOUSING.
[1:22:48] HAD MORE OF THE CONTROL.
[1:22:50] IN IN THEIR WORK.
[1:22:51] WITH EACH DEPARTMENT OR DO YOU
[1:22:53] FEEL LIKE THEY ARE JUST THE
[1:22:55] COORDINATOR OF ALL.
[1:22:57] OF THE INDIVIDUAL SMALLER
[1:22:58] DEPARTMENTS WITHIN?
[1:22:59] I THINK THAT'S HOW IT WORKS NOW
[1:23:01] UM.
[1:23:01] I'M WONDERING IF YOU FEEL HEY
[1:23:03] WE DON'T NEED INDIVIDUALS IN
[1:23:05] EACH DEPARTMENT SO MUCH.
[1:23:06] AS FAIR HOUSING INSERTING.
[1:23:08] THEMSELVES IN.
[1:23:09] AND AND SORT OF TAKING.
[1:23:11] THE LEAD.
[1:23:11] WITHIN THAT DEPARTMENT INSTEAD
[1:23:14] OF COORDINATING WITH THEM.
[1:23:15] THAT'S A THAT'S MORE OF A
[1:23:16] STRATEGIC QUESTION.
[1:23:17] UH, YOU KNOW, AN ORG CHART TYPE
[1:23:19] THING.
[1:23:19] I WONDER IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY
[1:23:21] IDEA ON WHICH ONE WOULD WORK.
[1:23:22] UM, AND THEN AS LONG AS WE I
[1:23:25] KNOW LATELY THE DISCUSSION HAS
[1:23:26] JUST.
[1:23:26] BEEN ABOUT UH, MOST RECENTLY.
[1:23:28] INCLUSIONARY ZONING.
[1:23:29] AND ITS EFFECT.
[1:23:30] AND I THINK YOU BRING UP A
[1:23:31] GREAT POINT WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT
[1:23:32] YOU CAN'T SAY YOU WANT FAIR
[1:23:34] HOUSING AND LOWER THE
[1:23:34] INCLUSIONARY ZONING THAT THAT
[1:23:36] HIT WITH ME BECAUSE TYPICALLY
[1:23:38] MY MIND OPERATES JUST SO YOU
[1:23:39] UNDERSTAND, RIGHT.
[1:23:40] LIKE I'M THINKING WELL IF WE
[1:23:42] WANT MORE UNITS.
[1:23:44] RIGHT YOU GOT TO DROP THE AND.
[1:23:46] IS IT MORE UNITS AND SUPPLY AND
[1:23:47] DEMAND TENTATIVELY GOOD FOR ALL
[1:23:50] RIGHT EXACTLY NO AND THERE'S
[1:23:52] THERE'S WAYS TO.
[1:23:53] FIRE BACK AT THIS I UNDERSTAND.
[1:23:55] ISN'T THAT GOOD FOR EVERYONE.
[1:23:56] SHOULDN'T THAT BRING.
[1:23:57] RENTS DOWN WHICH MAKES IT
[1:23:58] MORE AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYBODY
[1:23:59] NOW YOU CAN ALWAYS FIGHT BACK.
[1:24:00] WELL YEAH BUT DO THE RENTS
[1:24:01] ACTUALLY GO DOWN TO LANDLORDS
[1:24:03] ACTUALLY BRING THE RIGHT DO
[1:24:04] THEY JUST TAKE THEM OFF THE
[1:24:05] MARKET AND ARE WAITING TO PUT
[1:24:06] THEM BACK ON UH WHEN THINGS
[1:24:08] CHANGE AROUND?
[1:24:10] UM SO I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO
[1:24:11] INTO THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE
[1:24:12] COULD GO BACK AND FORTH.
[1:24:13] BUT I THINK THE JOB OF.
[1:24:14] GOVERNMENT I'VE.
[1:24:15] SAID BEFORE IS TO BE.
[1:24:16] FLEXIBLE TO.
[1:24:17] THE TIMES AND.
[1:24:18] THAT.
[1:24:18] DOES MEAN I THINK 20%.
[1:24:20] OVER THE LAST IF.
[1:24:22] YOU'RE GOING TO GO FROM 2010
[1:24:23] TO 2020, 20% WAS A LAUDABLE
[1:24:25] GOAL AND A DOABLE GOAL.
[1:24:27] IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY.
[1:24:28] NOW THINGS ARE TOUGHER.
[1:24:30] IT IS OUR JOB TO BE FLEXIBLE
[1:24:32] AND RESPOND.
[1:24:33] TO THE TIMES.
[1:24:34] AND SO I WONDER THAT'S.
[1:24:35] SORT OF WHERE I.
[1:24:36] THINK THIS IS NOTHING
[1:24:37] PERMANENT.
[1:24:37] I WOULD I WOULD THINK OF BUT
[1:24:38] LIKE.
[1:24:39] HEY HOW.
[1:24:39] DO.
[1:24:40] WE.
[1:24:40] CONTINUE TO.
[1:24:41] PROVIDE UNITS TO THE GREATER
[1:24:42] GOOD.
[1:24:43] IN THE CURRENT TIMES.
[1:24:44] PLAN FOR BETTER TIMES AHEAD AND
[1:24:46] YOU KNOW, PUT IT ON A SLIDING
[1:24:48] SCALE IF YOU WILL.
[1:24:49] UM.
[1:24:49] BUT THERE'S GOT.
[1:24:50] TO BE WAYS WE GOT IT.
[1:24:51] WE CAN'T JUST LET HOUSING
[1:24:52] PRODUCTION DIE.
[1:24:53] AND I ALSO THINK THERE'S A
[1:24:54] LOT OF MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:24:55] MONEY.
[1:24:56] OUT THERE WHEN PEOPLE TALK
[1:24:57] ABOUT THE MARKET RATE VERSUS
[1:24:58] AFFORDABLE.
[1:24:59] HOW ARE THE.
[1:25:00] AFFORDABLE GUYS DOING IT?
[1:25:01] WELL THERE'S A LOT.
[1:25:02] MORE OUT THERE THAT THEY HAVE
[1:25:04] TO PICK FROM WHEN THE PRIVATE
[1:25:06] INVESTMENT IS IS A LITTLE BIT
[1:25:08] THINNER.
[1:25:08] SO I THINK.
[1:25:08] THERE'S A.
[1:25:09] THEY DO HAVE A LEG.
[1:25:10] UP IN THAT.
[1:25:10] UM IT'S A BIT BACK TO MY
[1:25:12] ORIGINAL THREE QUESTIONS I OPEN
[1:25:13] IT.
[1:25:13] UP THAT THAT WAS EVERYTHING
[1:25:14] I HAD AND THANK YOU FOR LETTING
[1:25:15] ME TAKE THE TIME.
[1:25:16] I COULD I CAN SO I GUESS I
[1:25:19] WOULD START BACKWARDS THE UM.
[1:25:21] I'D SAY THE CITY PUT OUT A
[1:25:23] NUMBER OF THE PACKAGE OF THINGS
[1:25:25] OTHER THAN REDUCING
[1:25:27] INCLUSIONARY ZONING.
[1:25:28] UH, THAT IS KIND OF LIKE
[1:25:29] ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION.
[1:25:30] AND SO I GUESS MY THOUGHT IS DO
[1:25:32] DEVELOPERS FEEL LIKE THAT'S
[1:25:33] ENOUGH OR IS THAT NOT ENOUGH?
[1:25:34] AND YOU KNOW WHAT IS ENOUGH FOR
[1:25:36] THEM?
[1:25:36] UH, BECAUSE ON OUR END WE'RE
[1:25:38] SEEING I MEAN, YOU ASK A
[1:25:39] QUESTION LIKE WHAT'S A STAT
[1:25:40] THAT STANDS OUT?
[1:25:40] YEAH, WE SEE THE STATS AROUND
[1:25:43] INCOME INEQUALITY BETWEEN BLACK
[1:25:45] AND WHITE RESIDENTS.
[1:25:46] WE LOOK AT THE RATE OF UM
[1:25:49] FORECLOSURES WHICH HAVE GONE UP
[1:25:50] IN THE CITY NOW UH, ESPECIALLY
[1:25:51] NOW WITH THE NONEXISTENT CFP
[1:25:53] PROTECTING OUR OUR RESIDENTS.
[1:25:55] UM, SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE
[1:25:56] KIND OF STATS THEN IT PAINTS A
[1:25:58] PICTURE OF A CITY WHERE BLACK
[1:25:59] AND BROWN RESIDENTS ARE NOT
[1:26:02] CONSIDERED IN POLICY DECISIONS
[1:26:03] ARE AN AFTERTHOUGHT.
[1:26:04] AND SO IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW,
[1:26:07] LOWERING INCLUSIONARY ZONING IN
[1:26:08] THE MIDST OF THE CITY GETTING
[1:26:10] 110 MILLION TO DEVELOPERS IS
[1:26:12] UM, FEELING LIKE THAT PERSON
[1:26:15] MAKING THAT DECISION IS UM,
[1:26:17] MORE WORRIED ABOUT THE GREATER
[1:26:19] GOOD THAN THE LONG TERM IMPACT
[1:26:21] OF A LONG TERM HEALTH AND
[1:26:23] WEALTH OF BLACK AND BROWN
[1:26:24] RESIDENTS.
[1:26:24] AND SO I THINK THAT THOSE TWO
[1:26:26] THINGS AREN'T NECESSARILY UM,
[1:26:28] DON'T NEED TO BE UM, THEY CAN
[1:26:31] BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME
[1:26:32] BECAUSE AS IT STANDS, THE STATS
[1:26:33] SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THE
[1:26:35] AVERAGE FAMILY IS DOING VERY
[1:26:36] WELL AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THE
[1:26:38] RACIAL DEMOGRAPHIC DEVELOPERS
[1:26:39] BUT I'D ARGUE THAT PROBABLY
[1:26:40] DOING WELL BETTER THAN THE
[1:26:42] AVERAGE LOW INCOME RESIDENT WHO
[1:26:43] THIS WOULD AFFECT IN THEIR
[1:26:44] ABILITY TO STAY IN BOSTON.
[1:26:45] SO WHEN YOU THINK OF GREATER
[1:26:46] GOOD, PROBABLY HELPING THE LOW
[1:26:48] INCOME RESIDENTS WOULD BE A
[1:26:49] BETTER USE OF YOUR GOOD.
[1:26:51] YOUR PASSING TO DO GOOD IS MY
[1:26:52] THOUGHT UNDERSTOOD?
[1:26:53] THANK YOU.
[1:26:58] I KEEP GOING IF NO ONE ELSE
[1:27:00] AND.
[1:27:00] UH YEAH.
[1:27:00] THAT WAS I JUST IT STATS HOW
[1:27:02] YOU WOULD PRIORITIZE THE 14
[1:27:03] GOALS IF.
[1:27:03] ANY AND AGAIN AND THEN HOW THE
[1:27:05] COORDINATION WORK.
[1:27:06] SO THOSE ARE MY THREE MAIN
[1:27:07] QUESTIONS.
[1:27:08] I THINK WE NEED TO GET BACK TO
[1:27:10] YOU ON WHAT WE SEE AS THE FIVE
[1:27:12] MAIN GOALS.
[1:27:14] UM BUT CLEARLY GETTING THE
[1:27:17] AUDIT YOU KNOW SOME OF THE
[1:27:18] THINGS WE MENTIONED THE AUDIT
[1:27:20] SOME COORDINATION AND THE CITY
[1:27:23] AND UM, GETTING THE MONITORING
[1:27:25] COMMITTEE BACK UP AND RUNNING I
[1:27:28] THINK WOULD BE SOME OF THOSE I
[1:27:30] JUST WANT TO TAKE THE
[1:27:32] OPPORTUNITY BEFORE OTHER
[1:27:33] COUNCILORS LEAVE.
[1:27:34] I AM JUST SO MOVED THAT SO MANY
[1:27:37] OF YOU ARE HERE TODAY AND I'VE
[1:27:41] TESTIFIED AT A LOT OF CITY
[1:27:43] COUNCIL HEARINGS HERE AND THIS
[1:27:45] IS JUST AN AMAZING TURNOUT AND
[1:27:48] I REALLY APPRECIATE EACH AND
[1:27:50] EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR COMING.
[1:27:52] UM, AND UNDERSTANDING THE
[1:27:55] IMPORTANCE THAT IT REALLY MAKES
[1:27:57] US FEEL LIKE THE WORK WE'RE
[1:27:59] DOING IS REALLY MEANINGFUL.
[1:28:02] SO THANK YOU.
[1:28:03] SO THIS.
[1:28:03] IS NOT.
[1:28:04] THANK YOU.
[1:28:05] THIS IS NOT A.
[1:28:07] DIRECT RESPONSE.
[1:28:08] TO YOUR QUERIES BUT BUT LET
[1:28:10] ME RESPOND WITH A QUERY AND I'M
[1:28:13] WONDERING.
[1:28:13] IF WE.
[1:28:14] STARTED TO THINK.
[1:28:15] MORE ABOUT COOPERATIVE.
[1:28:16] HOUSING IN BOSTON.
[1:28:20] UH MIGHT THAT CHANGE THE
[1:28:21] EQUATION A BIT I DON'T KNOW BUT
[1:28:24] BUT THE WAY WE'VE THOUGHT ABOUT
[1:28:26] DEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING.
[1:28:27] FOR THE MOST PART IN THIS.
[1:28:29] COUNTRY IS, YOU KNOW, VERY
[1:28:30] TRADITIONAL IN SOME PLACES UH
[1:28:33] UH, PEOPLE BEGINNING LOCAL
[1:28:36] GOVERNMENTS ARE BEGINNING TO
[1:28:37] PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO
[1:28:38] COOPERATIVE HOUSING, COMMUNITY
[1:28:39] LAND TRUST BUT ALSO CO-OPS.
[1:28:41] AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHETHER
[1:28:42] THAT OPENS THE DOOR TO GET TO
[1:28:44] THE THE POWER THAT THAT THAT
[1:28:46] THAT YOU'RE RAISING UH MAYBE
[1:28:50] PRODUCING HOUSING NOT AS A
[1:28:52] SPECULATIVE COMMODITY BUT MORE
[1:28:55] HOUSING AS A RIGHT UH MIGHT
[1:28:59] MIGHT AGAIN IT MIGHT OPEN THE
[1:29:01] DOOR TO DIFFERENT WAYS
[1:29:02] OF THINKING ABOUT DOING HOUSING
[1:29:05] AND AND RE BALANCING THE NEEDS
[1:29:08] OF RESIDENTS LOW INCOME WORKING
[1:29:10] CLASS RESIDENTS AND PEOPLE NEED
[1:29:14] TO BUILD HOUSING OF COURSE.
[1:29:17] THANK YOU CHAIR AND I
[1:29:19] APPRECIATE ALL YOUR ANSWERS.
[1:29:19] THANK YOU PANEL THANK YOU
[1:29:21] COUNCILOR.
[1:29:22] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
[1:29:23] YOU THANK YOU MR.
[1:29:25] CHAIR AND THANK YOU TO ALL
[1:29:26] OF THE ADVOCATES FOR BEING HERE
[1:29:27] AND FOR YOUR INCREDIBLE WORK IN
[1:29:29] THIS INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT
[1:29:32] NATIONAL LANDSCAPE.
[1:29:33] I GUESS I'LL PICK OFF WITH
[1:29:34] WHERE YOU'RE LEAVING OFF.
[1:29:35] I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS
[1:29:37] HOUSING AND I STARTED MY CAREER
[1:29:38] REPRESENTING FAMILIES FACING
[1:29:39] EVICTION AND FORECLOSURE.
[1:29:41] SO ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.
[1:29:43] THIS IS SUCH A DIFFICULT TOPIC
[1:29:45] IS THAT WE HAVE COMMODIFIED A
[1:29:47] BASIC HUMAN NECESSITY, RIGHT?
[1:29:49] PART OF THE SPECULATIVE MARKET
[1:29:51] IS DEPENDENT ON DRIVEN
[1:29:52] COMPLETELY BY PROFIT, WHICH IS
[1:29:54] WHY REAL ESTATE IS ONE OF THOSE
[1:29:56] AREAS.
[1:29:56] IF YOUR ETHOS IS HOUSING IS A
[1:29:59] HUMAN RIGHT, THEN YOU DO NEED
[1:30:01] TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THINGS
[1:30:03] OTHER THAN JUST THE PROFIT
[1:30:04] MARGIN.
[1:30:05] IF WE'RE TRYING TO ENSURE THAT
[1:30:06] EVERY RESIDENT HAS A PLACE TO
[1:30:07] CALL HOME WHICH IS WHY
[1:30:08] COMMUNITY LAND TRUST UH LIMITED
[1:30:10] SHARE EQUITY COOPERATIVES OTHER
[1:30:13] ALTERNATIVES ARE THINGS THAT WE
[1:30:14] HAVE TO UPLIFT.
[1:30:15] AND I WANT TO THINK I KNOW TO
[1:30:16] YOU FOLKS UM FROM THE LAND
[1:30:18] TRUST COMMUNITY FROM OBVIOUSLY
[1:30:20] ALSO PART OF THE FAIR HOUSING
[1:30:21] WORLD PART OF IT BECAUSE WE
[1:30:23] CANNOT DEPEND ON THE MARKET
[1:30:25] ALONE AS IT EXISTS TO SOLVE OUR
[1:30:27] HOUSING CRISIS, WHICH IS WHY
[1:30:29] I'M GLAD TO HEAR A BROAD SWATH
[1:30:32] OF PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT
[1:30:33] GOVERNMENT INTERVENTION.
[1:30:34] UM, AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TO
[1:30:36] COUNCILOR COLETTE AS ZAPATA THE
[1:30:37] LIKE SO MUCH OF WHAT WE'RE
[1:30:39] DOING IN THE CITY IS
[1:30:40] INTERTWINED TO SOLVING THESE
[1:30:42] ISSUES, RIGHT?
[1:30:43] SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT
[1:30:44] IS IT WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR A
[1:30:46] DEVELOPER TO DO MORE OF THE
[1:30:47] WORK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHEN
[1:30:49] IT COMES TO IDP WHEN WE TALK TO
[1:30:52] THOSE DEVELOPERS LIKE GIVE US
[1:30:53] MORE DENSITY, GIVE US MORE
[1:30:55] OF AN ABILITY TO BUILD MORE
[1:30:58] OF THAT HOUSING IN GENERAL AND
[1:30:59] WE'LL BE ABLE TO HIT THAT LIMIT
[1:31:01] AND INCREASE ELEMENT AND THEN
[1:31:02] YOU KNOW WE FACE DENSITY
[1:31:04] BATTLES WHEN WE GO INTO
[1:31:05] NEIGHBORHOOD DISCUSSIONS OR YOU
[1:31:07] KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
[1:31:09] WE NEED MORE THERE ISN'T A
[1:31:10] LIMITLESS POT OF MONEY FOR FOR
[1:31:14] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[1:31:15] IF THERE WERE WE WOULDN'T HAVE
[1:31:16] THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE WITH
[1:31:17] PEOPLE BEING IN HOUSING ALL
[1:31:18] OF THAT GIVE US A TRANSFER FEE
[1:31:20] WHICH WOULD ALLOW US AT LEAST
[1:31:22] AT A MINIMUM $50 MILLION A
[1:31:24] YEAR.
[1:31:25] TO FUND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[1:31:27] AND SO I JUST THINK THAT WE
[1:31:29] CANNOT THINK OF ANY OF THE
[1:31:30] SOLUTIONS HERE IN A VACUUM.
[1:31:32] AND IN ORDER TO SOLVE THESE
[1:31:33] PROBLEMS YOU REALLY DO HAVE TO
[1:31:35] BE FOR THIS AND FOR THAT AND
[1:31:37] FOR THIS TO REALLY UH, GET AT
[1:31:40] THE IDEA OF BLUNTING
[1:31:42] GENTRIFICATION AT THE IDEA
[1:31:43] OF BLUNTING DISPLACEMENT.
[1:31:44] I THINK ABOUT THE PROJECT THAT
[1:31:46] WE WORKED ON IN MATTAPAN WHERE
[1:31:47] THERE WAS A FOR PROFIT
[1:31:48] DEVELOPER WAS WAS INSISTENT ON
[1:31:51] RENAMING THIS AREA TO SOMA
[1:31:53] SOUTH OF MATTAPAN LIKE WHERE
[1:31:54] THEY DO THAT RIGHT?
[1:31:55] BUT IT TOOK SO MUCH
[1:31:57] INTENTIONALITY FROM THE CITY
[1:31:59] AND FROM PRIVATE FUNDERS AND
[1:32:00] FROM HOSPITALS TO REALIZE COVID
[1:32:01] AS A HUMAN RIGHT.
[1:32:02] SO I JUST THINK IT'S LIKE
[1:32:03] IMPORTANT FOR US ALWAYS TO LIKE
[1:32:04] LOOK AT ALL THE PIECES.
[1:32:06] UM UH, YOU KNOW, ALL OF MY
[1:32:07] COLLEAGUES HAVE UPLIFTED THE
[1:32:08] GREAT WORK OF BOB TERRELL WHO
[1:32:10] WOULD SIT IN MY OFFICE FOR
[1:32:11] HOURS TALKING ABOUT THE UH, THE
[1:32:14] GOLD STANDARD OF TESTING NOT
[1:32:16] ONLY IN THE RENTAL MARKET BUT
[1:32:17] WE ALSO OBVIOUSLY ARE ALWAYS
[1:32:19] SEEING DISCRIMINATION WHEN IT
[1:32:20] COMES TO APPRAISALS WHEN IT
[1:32:21] COMES TO BUYING.
[1:32:22] AND I'M WONDERING WHERE ARE WE
[1:32:23] SEEING CITIES DOING THAT GOLD
[1:32:26] THE GOLD STANDARD OF PEER
[1:32:27] TESTING WE'VE ADVOCATED FOR
[1:32:28] THAT IN THE BUDGET AND THE
[1:32:30] AMENDMENT PROCESS OF FAIR
[1:32:31] HOUSING UH FAIR HOUSING TESTERS
[1:32:33] AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND THAT
[1:32:34] WORK ISN'T EVEN HAPPENING RIGHT
[1:32:35] NOW WITH SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.
[1:32:37] SO THAT QUESTION IS TWO
[1:32:39] PRONGED.
[1:32:39] IT'S WHERE ARE THERE CITIES
[1:32:41] THAT ARE DOING PEER TESTING IN
[1:32:42] A WAY THAT IS MOVING FROM JUST
[1:32:43] THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY HAVING AN
[1:32:45] IMPACT ON POLICY AND TO IS A
[1:32:47] TESTING HAPPENING RIGHT NOW OUT
[1:32:48] OF SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.
[1:32:50] IF ANYONE KNOWS SO I DON'T KNOW
[1:32:54] BUT UH MAYBE UH I DON'T SEE UH
[1:32:58] DUANE ANYMORE BUT HE MAY BE THE
[1:33:00] BEST PERSON.
[1:33:01] OH IS.
[1:33:02] BUT HE'S THE BEST BUT IT'S NOT.
[1:33:04] HIS NEXT PANEL, YOU.
[1:33:06] KNOW, SO I DON'T KNOW I DON'T
[1:33:07] KNOW WHAT THE STATE OF TESTING
[1:33:08] IS.
[1:33:09] I KNOW THAT YOU MAY HEAR MORE
[1:33:10] OF THIS FROM ACE WHEN THEY
[1:33:11] PROVIDE THEIR TESTIMONY.
[1:33:13] IT IS AN IMPORTANT TOOL.
[1:33:14] IT'S ONE TOOL.
[1:33:16] UH AND AND BUT YOU SAID
[1:33:17] SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS VERY
[1:33:19] IMPORTANT IS WHAT DO WE DO WITH
[1:33:20] THE RESULTS OKAY SO WE HAVE
[1:33:22] THIS TOOL WHAT DO WE DO WITH
[1:33:23] THE RESULTS.
[1:33:24] THIS IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT
[1:33:25] DISCUSSION.
[1:33:26] YEAH I DON'T KNOW I CAN'T SPEAK
[1:33:28] FOR SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY.
[1:33:30] AND RIGHT NOW I DO BELIEVE LIKE
[1:33:32] WE ARE NOT EVEN AT THE LIKE WE
[1:33:34] HAVE THE RESULTS YOU KNOW IT
[1:33:35] HAS BEEN A SLOW PROCESS
[1:33:36] OF GETTING THE CITY TO REALLY
[1:33:38] MOVE AND UNDERSTAND EVEN WHEN
[1:33:39] BOB TERRELL WAS LEADING RIGHT
[1:33:41] WORKED CLOSELY WITH HIM ABOUT
[1:33:42] HOW DO WE GET TO EVEN GET THE
[1:33:45] RESULTS WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING
[1:33:47] FOR A LONG TIME FOR A PUBLIC
[1:33:48] EDUCATION CAMPAIGN BECAUSE
[1:33:50] OFTENTIMES I DO THINK THAT
[1:33:51] OWNERS CORPORATE LANDLORDS THEY
[1:33:54] ARE NOT MADE AFRAID IN THIS
[1:33:55] CITY TO VIOLATE FAIR HOUSING
[1:33:58] LAWS AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
[1:34:00] THAT THAT IS HAPPENING BY
[1:34:01] PEOPLE CALLING US MORE AND
[1:34:03] MAKING US MORE AWARE OF THE
[1:34:05] INSTANCES OF DISCRIMINATION.
[1:34:06] PEOPLE OFTEN DON'T KNOW THAT
[1:34:07] WHAT'S THERE THAT THEY'VE BEEN
[1:34:08] FACING DISCRIMINATION AND THEN
[1:34:10] SECOND IS DOING THE WORK
[1:34:12] OF LIKE LETTING PEOPLE OWNERS
[1:34:15] UM KNOW THAT THE TESTING IS
[1:34:16] HAPPENING.
[1:34:17] SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE
[1:34:18] ANY EXAMPLES OF IT.
[1:34:19] YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU TALKED
[1:34:20] ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IN NEW
[1:34:21] YORK OUR MONEY.
[1:34:22] BUT IF THERE ARE ANY EXAMPLES
[1:34:23] OF.
[1:34:23] THIS HAPPENING.
[1:34:24] AROUND I THINK PEOPLE FROM
[1:34:26] THE FAIR HOUSING OFFICE WILL BE
[1:34:29] TESTIFYING AND MAYBE CAN ANSWER
[1:34:31] SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS.
[1:34:33] YEAH.
[1:34:33] AND AND THERE'S OTHER LIKE
[1:34:34] THERE IS A UM A COALITION
[1:34:37] OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES THAT
[1:34:38] MEET THROUGH I BELIEVE THE GAY
[1:34:40] COALITION IN BOSTON AND YOU
[1:34:41] KNOW HAS A SEAT ON THAT.
[1:34:43] AND SO I THINK THERE'S LIKE A
[1:34:45] THERE THAT ANSWER CAN BE WE CAN
[1:34:47] ANSWER THAT QUESTION EVEN IF
[1:34:48] NONE OF US KNOW THE DIRECT
[1:34:49] ANSWER TO THAT.
[1:34:50] BUT I THINK THE BIG THING IS
[1:34:51] THAT UM, MAKING SURE YOU KNOW,
[1:34:53] YOU I SUBMIT A QUESTION OF LIKE
[1:34:54] HOW DO WE KIND OF CREATE MORE
[1:34:56] REVENUE TO KIND OF LIKE FUND
[1:34:57] THIS IMPORTANT WORK TO FUND THE
[1:34:59] AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
[1:34:59] AND I THINK THAT IS LIKE.
[1:35:01] A BIGGER QUESTION FRANKLY.
[1:35:02] UM AND I THINK THAT I LIKE THE
[1:35:03] IDEA YOU BROUGHT UP THE
[1:35:04] TRANSFER FEE AND OTHERS ARE
[1:35:05] THINGS THAT YOU KNOW, WE COULD
[1:35:06] BE PUSHING.
[1:35:06] MORE FOR.
[1:35:07] UM, BUT I THINK THAT UM YEAH, I
[1:35:10] THINK THE BIG THING IS IN THE
[1:35:11] CITY EVEN FOLKS IN THE CITY
[1:35:13] COUNCILORS ARE WELCOME TO JOIN
[1:35:15] THAT COALITION THE GOVERNMENT
[1:35:16] ALLIANCE FOR RACIAL EQUITY THAT
[1:35:17] THEY HOLD.
[1:35:18] UM AND THEY HAVE WORKSHOPS
[1:35:19] WHERE YOU CAN KIND OF LIKE
[1:35:20] LEARN AND FROM THE OTHER CITIES
[1:35:22] .
[1:35:22] SO I REALLY ENCOURAGE THAT THAT
[1:35:24] HAPPEN MORE FROM LIKE
[1:35:25] COUNCILORS THAT CARE DEEPLY
[1:35:26] ABOUT THIS TOPIC BECAUSE I
[1:35:27] BELIEVE THE CITY IS UM IS THERE
[1:35:29] AND AND THEY'RE DOING THAT
[1:35:30] THROUGH LOUIS FREE AS SERVES IN
[1:35:31] THAT CAPACITY BUT UM AND I
[1:35:33] THINK JUST FROM WHAT I KNOW
[1:35:35] ANECDOTALLY IS THAT THE CITY IS
[1:35:36] DOING TESTING RIGHT NOW BUT
[1:35:37] IT'S JUST THEY'RE SUPER UNDER
[1:35:39] CAPACITY.
[1:35:40] I THINK THE PERSON THAT MIGHT
[1:35:41] HAVE BEEN LEADING IT MIGHT HAVE
[1:35:42] LEFT ACTUALLY.
[1:35:42] SO YEAH I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW
[1:35:44] AS OF RIGHT NOW THEY ARE BUT IT
[1:35:45] NEEDS TO HAPPEN OKAY.
[1:35:46] AND I KNOW THE STATE IS PUTTING
[1:35:48] FUNDING INTO ORGANIZATIONS AS
[1:35:49] WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT ABOUT THAT
[1:35:50] MORE LATER.
[1:35:51] SO AND.
[1:35:52] THEY'RE TALKING NOT ME THEY GOT
[1:35:53] NOTHING HE GOT YOU GOT MORE TO
[1:35:55] SAY.
[1:35:55] SO YOU MENTIONED TRANSFER FEES
[1:35:56] .
[1:35:57] QUICK QUESTION I WONDER HOW
[1:35:59] MANY DEVELOPERS WHO ARE RAISING
[1:36:00] THESE ISSUES ABOUT COST ARE OUR
[1:36:04] ALLIES ON A TRASH HEAP?
[1:36:07] THANK YOU.
[1:36:08] THANK YOU FOR THOSE ANSWERS
[1:36:09] AND THANK YOU MR CHAIR.
[1:36:09] I THINK IF WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT
[1:36:11] THE RACIAL WEALTH GAP AND ABOUT
[1:36:12] DISPLACEMENT, IT REALLY DOES
[1:36:13] HAVE TO BE EVERYTHING ON THE
[1:36:15] TABLE.
[1:36:15] I THINK OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING
[1:36:16] AND EQUITY CAN DO A LOT OF IT,
[1:36:18] BUT I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO ALSO
[1:36:19] BE PLACED AS IT IS IN PLANNING.
[1:36:21] IT DOES NEED TO BE INTEGRATED
[1:36:22] INTO EVERY DEPARTMENT.
[1:36:24] SO THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE
[1:36:25] TRAININGS ACROSS EACH
[1:36:26] DEPARTMENT AROUND FAIR HOUSING
[1:36:27] AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED AS A
[1:36:28] PART OF THIS YOU KNOW I DON'T
[1:36:29] ACCEPT.
[1:36:29] SO THANK YOU THANK YOU MR CHAIR
[1:36:31] 37.
[1:36:31] THANK YOU COUNCIL.
[1:36:36] THANK YOU CHAIR UM AND I
[1:36:38] APOLOGIZE THAT I WAS LATE BUT I
[1:36:39] WAS LISTENING AND IT'S SO GREAT
[1:36:40] TO SEE.
[1:36:40] ALL OF YOU AND JUST THANK
[1:36:41] YOU SO.
[1:36:41] MUCH FOR YOUR FOR YOUR WORK.
[1:36:42] UM, UH 2019.
[1:36:45] 2020 2122 MY PREDECESSOR
[1:36:47] COUNCILOR.
[1:36:48] EDWARDS, NOW STATE SENATOR
[1:36:49] LYDIA EDWARDS I WAS PROUD TO
[1:36:50] HAVE.
[1:36:50] PLAYED A SMALL ROLE BUT I.
[1:36:51] UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF YOU.
[1:36:52] LIVE AND BREATHE THIS.
[1:36:53] STUFF AND JUST HAVE.
[1:36:54] DEDICATED YOUR LIVES.
[1:36:56] AND YOUR PROFESSIONAL.
[1:36:56] CAREER TO THIS.
[1:36:57] SO SO THANK YOU.
[1:36:57] AND I WANT.
[1:36:58] TO.
[1:36:59] THANK UM.
[1:36:59] THE CO-SPONSORS.
[1:37:00] AS WELL FOR INTRODUCING.
[1:37:00] THIS AND UNDERSTANDING WHERE WE
[1:37:02] ARE.
[1:37:03] UM I.
[1:37:03] HAVE THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
[1:37:04] IT'S WELL TAKEN.
[1:37:05] I THINK WE HAVE OUR.
[1:37:06] MARCHING ORDERS, YOU KNOW,
[1:37:07] ESPECIALLY AS BUDGET SEASON
[1:37:08] COMES UH, IN THIS COUNCIL AND
[1:37:10] IN THAT SEASON WE WILL FIGHT.
[1:37:12] AND AT LEAST.
[1:37:13] I'M.
[1:37:14] NOT GONNA SPEAK FOR MY
[1:37:14] COLLEAGUES.
[1:37:15] AT LEAST I.
[1:37:15] WANT TO KNOW THAT A FEW
[1:37:16] OF MY COLLEAGUES WILL AS WELL
[1:37:17] FOR.
[1:37:17] THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
[1:37:19] UM, AND JUST, UH, JUST REALLY
[1:37:22] WANT TO SAY UH.
[1:37:23] BOB'S NAME AGAIN FOR FOR
[1:37:25] BECAUSE OF THE WORK.
[1:37:26] AND FOR.
[1:37:26] EVERYTHING THAT.
[1:37:27] HE DID.
[1:37:28] UM.
[1:37:28] FOR THIS CITY BUT JUST
[1:37:30] UNDERSTANDING HOW.
[1:37:31] HISTORIC THAT.
[1:37:32] ASSESSMENT WAS AND ZONING AND
[1:37:34] EMBEDDING EQUITY AND PLANNING
[1:37:36] FOR THE INCLUSION OF UH,
[1:37:39] FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED AND
[1:37:41] HISTORICALLY UM RECOGNIZED
[1:37:43] PROTECTED.
[1:37:44] CLASSES WAS SUPER.
[1:37:45] SUPER IMPORTANT AS WE
[1:37:47] CONTEMPLATED.
[1:37:48] SUFFOLK DOWNS WE.
[1:37:49] WERE BUILDING A WHOLE NEW.
[1:37:51] CITY BASICALLY IN EAST BOSTON.
[1:37:53] UM AND I WOULD ARGUE EAST
[1:37:55] BOSTON IS.
[1:37:56] UH THE EPICENTER.
[1:37:57] OF THE.
[1:37:58] GENTRIFICATION CRISIS HERE IN
[1:38:00] THE CITY.
[1:38:01] IT IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT
[1:38:02] MEANS TO LEAVE AFFORDABILITY ON
[1:38:05] THE BACK BURNER AT THE EXPENSE
[1:38:08] OF PEOPLE OF COLOR.
[1:38:10] FOLKS WHO.
[1:38:11] ARE LOW INCOME, A MODERATELY,
[1:38:12] UH, INCOME FROM MODERATE
[1:38:14] INCOME.
[1:38:14] UM, SO YOU KNOW.
[1:38:16] I THINK THAT I APPRECIATE.
[1:38:18] COUNCILOR BRADEN'S QUESTIONS.
[1:38:19] COUNCIL WEBER.
[1:38:20] ARMANI I WANT TO SHOUT YOU OUT
[1:38:22] FOR YOUR, UH, POINTED UH,
[1:38:25] COMMENTARY HERE.
[1:38:25] JUST SAYING.
[1:38:26] YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN'T DEVELOP
[1:38:27] TO 20% THEN JUST DON'T DEVELOP
[1:38:29] HERE.
[1:38:29] AND I THINK I TAKE
[1:38:31] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE POINTS AS
[1:38:33] WELL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO
[1:38:35] UNDERSTAND HOW ALL OF THIS IS
[1:38:37] UM, UH, RELATED.
[1:38:39] AND WHY.
[1:38:40] WE NEED THE TRANSFER FEE AND
[1:38:41] WHY WE NEED BETTER HOME RULE
[1:38:42] PETITIONS, UH, GOING UP THERE
[1:38:44] AND.
[1:38:44] AND UM, AND GETTING PASSED AND
[1:38:46] WHY WE NEED MORE POWER AS A
[1:38:47] CITY RATHER.
[1:38:48] SO I THINK I'M GRATEFUL.
[1:38:50] FOR THIS ADMINISTRATION FOR
[1:38:52] UNDERSTANDING THE IMPORTANCE
[1:38:52] OF AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[1:38:53] FAIR HOUSING.
[1:38:54] UM, AND REALLY NOT WORRYING
[1:38:56] ABOUT THE BURDEN ON DEVELOPERS
[1:38:57] BUT WORRYING WHAT IT MEANS WHEN
[1:39:00] WE DON'T PLAN FOR THE INCLUSION
[1:39:02] OF FOLKS.
[1:39:02] AND SO ALL OF THIS IS TO SAY
[1:39:03] THAT I DON'T REALLY HAVE
[1:39:04] QUESTIONS.
[1:39:04] I HAVE AGAIN, I HAVE THE POINTS
[1:39:05] THAT YOU LAID OUT VERY CLEARLY.
[1:39:07] UH, WE HAVE OUR MARCHING ORDERS
[1:39:09] AND JUST WANT TO EXPRESS
[1:39:10] GRATITUDE.
[1:39:10] TO ALL OF YOU.
[1:39:11] WHO ARE.
[1:39:11] ACTUALLY SORRY.
[1:39:12] I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
[1:39:13] UM, THE BEFORE DEC I SHOULD
[1:39:15] KNOW THIS IS THE FIFTH DECK
[1:39:16] CONSIDERED THE MANAGING
[1:39:17] COMMITTEE?
[1:39:18] IS IT INTERCHANGEABLE OR THEY
[1:39:20] TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES AND HAS
[1:39:21] THE FIFTH DEC BEEN BEEN MEETING
[1:39:22] AND I WILL ASK THE NEXT PANEL
[1:39:24] BUT.
[1:39:24] YEAH NEXT PANEL CAN GIVE YOU
[1:39:25] ALL THE DETAILS BUT YES THEY
[1:39:26] THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE A
[1:39:28] COALITION OF DIFFERENT
[1:39:29] DEPARTMENTS.
[1:39:29] THEY'RE LIKE A DIFFERENT
[1:39:31] DEPARTMENT HEADS THAT MEET
[1:39:31] TOGETHER AND I BELIEVE ONE
[1:39:32] PERSON THE CITY BOSS AND
[1:39:34] CATHERINE LUSK I WANT TO SAY
[1:39:35] THE PERSON I'M LOOKING AT ON
[1:39:36] SOMEONE ELSE SO IT EXACTLY WHO
[1:39:37] BUT THERE'S SOMEONE THAT I
[1:39:39] BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW I SHOULD
[1:39:39] KNOW I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE IT'S
[1:39:40] JUST NOT CLEAR ENOUGH OR IT'S
[1:39:43] NOT REPORTED OUT IN A
[1:39:44] PREDICTABLE AREA.
[1:39:45] YOU KNOW SOMETIMES IT'S EARLIER
[1:39:47] IN THE PROJECT.
[1:39:48] NOTIFICATION FORM THERE'S.
[1:39:49] THE DECK DECISION.
[1:39:50] SOMETIMES IT'S LATER IN THE UH
[1:39:52] LIKE LATER ON IN THE KIND
[1:39:54] OF ARTICLE 80 DEVELOPMENT MAP
[1:39:56] SO THEY CAN TALK MORE ABOUT IT.
[1:39:57] BUT YEAH IT IS A PROBLEM THAT
[1:39:59] THAT WE DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT
[1:40:00] IT AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT
[1:40:02] OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO USE THE
[1:40:03] DECISIONS THAT COME OUT
[1:40:03] OF THERE TO PUSH BACK I THINK
[1:40:05] TALK ABOUT CREATION OF NEW
[1:40:06] COMMUNITIES IN DORCHESTER.
[1:40:07] THE DEC, I THINK GAVE A
[1:40:09] DECISION THAT THE DORCHESTER
[1:40:10] BAY DEVELOPMENT SHOULDN'T HAVE
[1:40:11] MOVED FORWARD PASS OR SOME
[1:40:13] DEVELOPMENT DORCHESTER
[1:40:14] SORRY I'M MORE ROXBURY BASED
[1:40:15] BUT WE.
[1:40:16] SHOULDN'T MOVE.
[1:40:16] FORWARD WITH THAT SAID THAT
[1:40:17] AND THE CITY STILL UH APPROVED
[1:40:19] THAT PROJECT WHICH IS LIKE SO
[1:40:21] WE'RE JUST IGNORING FAIR
[1:40:22] HOUSING SO YEAH.
[1:40:23] AND I'M SORRY I DO HAVE ANOTHER
[1:40:24] QUESTION BUT I WENT BACK AND IT
[1:40:26] JUST I WAS GETTING, UM,
[1:40:29] FAMILIAR AGAIN WITH DOCUMENTS
[1:40:30] I'D BEEN LOOKING AT FOR HOURS.
[1:40:32] AND HOURS.
[1:40:33] ON END BUT THE FOR SELF
[1:40:34] ASSESSMENT UM, HAVE YOU ALL
[1:40:36] REVIEWED ANY OF THE
[1:40:37] SELF-ASSESSMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN
[1:40:38] PRODUCED BY THE BDA?
[1:40:40] UM DO YOU GET ACCESS TO THOSE.
[1:40:42] TO THE.
[1:40:43] BOSTON TENANT COALITION?
[1:40:44] THEY BASICALLY REVIEW EVERY
[1:40:45] SINGLE ONE.
[1:40:45] DANIELLE.
[1:40:46] UH KATA.
[1:40:46] SUMMER KATA.
[1:40:48] UM GOOD.
[1:40:48] PLEASE HEAR MY TESTIFY LATER
[1:40:50] REVIEWS EVERY SINGLE ONE.
[1:40:50] IT'S LIKE A FULL TIME JOB TO DO
[1:40:52] THAT BUT UM IS THAT HAPPENING
[1:40:54] AT THE CITY IN ANY ARE ANY
[1:40:55] REPORTING HAPPENING ON THE CITY
[1:40:56] AND THERE'S I DON'T KNOW
[1:40:57] DANIELLE MIGHT KNOW MORE I ALSO
[1:40:59] JASON.
[1:41:00] JUST ROZIER.
[1:41:01] OKAY BOSTON TENANT COALITION.
[1:41:02] THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH AND JUST
[1:41:03] ONE LAST THING I KNOW I'M SO
[1:41:04] SORRY.
[1:41:05] UM PROFESSOR JENNINGS MY MOTHER
[1:41:06] SAYS HELLO.
[1:41:07] SHE WAS SHE WAS SHE WAS A TOUGH
[1:41:08] FELLOW WITH YOU SO SHE WANTED
[1:41:09] ME TO SAY I.
[1:41:11] WAS GOING TO.
[1:41:12] GET TO YOU AFTERWARDS.
[1:41:13] YEAH.
[1:41:14] WE'RE RELATED.
[1:41:15] EVERYONE ALWAYS ASKS.
[1:41:16] THANK YOU, THANK.
[1:41:17] YOU, THANK YOU.
[1:41:17] I SAID TO SAY I WILL.
[1:41:19] THANK YOU.
[1:41:20] OKAY SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW
[1:41:24] TWO MINUTES TO THE CO-SPONSORS
[1:41:26] .
[1:41:26] FOR THE FOLLOW UP.
[1:41:27] QUESTIONS TO THE PANEL.
[1:41:29] UM I KNOW THIS IS ALREADY THIS
[1:41:31] HAS BEEN A GREAT HERE AND SO
[1:41:32] FAR BUT I KNOW WE HAVE ONE MORE
[1:41:33] PANEL TO TESTIFY.
[1:41:36] SO WHAT COUNCIL?
[1:41:37] WELL, COUNCIL CULPEPER AND
[1:41:39] COUNCILMEMBER HERE I'M GOING TO
[1:41:40] GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES TO GET
[1:41:41] YOUR QUESTIONS IN.
[1:41:42] ALL RIGHT OKAY OKAY.
[1:41:45] I'M TRYING TO HEAR ALL RIGHT.
[1:41:46] SO, UM, AMANI YOU TALKED ABOUT
[1:41:48] THE TECH NEEDED MORE
[1:41:50] TRANSPARENCY UM, AND MORE
[1:41:51] PREDICTABILITY.
[1:41:52] WHAT WHEN DO YOU THINK THAT
[1:41:54] REPORT SHOULD BE ISSUED AND
[1:41:56] THEN WHO SHOULD IT BE
[1:41:58] DISTRIBUTED TO?
[1:41:59] YEAH.
[1:41:59] IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
[1:42:00] I BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE
[1:42:02] DONE.
[1:42:02] PROBABLY MORE.
[1:42:03] MAYBE MULTIPLE TIMES.
[1:42:05] UH, THE BEGINNING THERE SHOULD
[1:42:06] BE THE THE BOSTON INTER-AGENCY
[1:42:07] SHOULD BE REVIEWING THE INITIAL
[1:42:10] AND THEN THERE SHOULD BE
[1:42:11] FEEDBACK GIVEN BY THAT I
[1:42:12] BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS AS
[1:42:13] A FEEDBACK GIVEN BY THAT
[1:42:14] AGENCY.
[1:42:14] AND THEN THAT FEEDBACK SHOULD
[1:42:16] THEN BE USED TO MAKE SUBSEQUENT
[1:42:18] CHANGES IN THAT COMMITTEE
[1:42:19] SHOULD THEN REVIEW THOSE TO
[1:42:20] THEN GIVE A FINAL OPINION OF UH
[1:42:22] WE'LL SEE AGAIN IT'S A IT'S A
[1:42:24] PROCESS THAT I DON'T KNOW
[1:42:25] ENOUGH ABOUT AND ISN'T CLEARLY
[1:42:27] EXPLAINED.
[1:42:27] AND I DON'T LIKE A LOT OF THE
[1:42:29] ARTICLE 80 DOCUMENTATION THAT
[1:42:30] I'VE READ AND UM, AND HAVE EVEN
[1:42:32] HELPED THE CITY IN IN HELPING
[1:42:34] OTHER PEOPLE TO LEARN ABOUT
[1:42:34] THROUGH THE PLANNING ACADEMY.
[1:42:35] IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW,
[1:42:36] I'VE PUSHED AS A YOU KNOW, A
[1:42:38] SUPPORTER OF MAKING SURE
[1:42:39] RESIDENTS KNOW MORE ABOUT
[1:42:40] ARTICLE 80 BUT IT ISN'T UH,
[1:42:42] RIGHT NOW IT'S NOT CLEAR AND
[1:42:43] THEY WILL ADMIT IT'S NOT A PART
[1:42:45] OF THE LIKE IT'S NOT A
[1:42:46] FORMALIZED STEP BUT IT IS A
[1:42:48] STEP IN THE FORMAL PROCESS.
[1:42:49] RIGHT.
[1:42:50] UM AND THEN UH, WHEN IT.
[1:42:52] COMES.
[1:42:53] TO FINDING MORE REVENUE TO HELP
[1:42:54] THE CREATION OF HOUSING, YOU
[1:42:55] KNOW, THE CITY HAS DONE WHETHER
[1:42:57] IT'S LIKE $110 MILLION
[1:42:58] ACCELERATOR FUND, UH, WHICH YOU
[1:43:00] KNOW, WE ADVOCATED FOR FAIR
[1:43:01] HOUSING, UH, LENS TO BE YOU
[1:43:03] KNOW, ATTRIBUTED TO IT.
[1:43:04] UH, BUT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER
[1:43:06] INCENTIVES FOR HOUSING
[1:43:07] CREATION, UH, WHETHER IT'S LIKE
[1:43:09] THE TAX ABATEMENTS, THE DENSITY
[1:43:11] ,UM, CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'RE
[1:43:12] HAVING.
[1:43:13] WHAT DOES THE CCAC OR THE
[1:43:17] MONITORING COMMITTEE PROVIDE
[1:43:19] ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY
[1:43:22] ON HOW FAIR HOUSING LANDS
[1:43:23] SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, PUT ON
[1:43:25] SOME OF THESE POLICIES?
[1:43:29] YEAH.
[1:43:30] I MEAN JUST IN TERMS OF LIKE
[1:43:32] UH LIKE THE POLICIES LIKE IS
[1:43:34] THERE A PARTICULAR POLICY YOU
[1:43:35] MEAN OR JUST IN GENERAL.
[1:43:35] IN GENERAL WHEN WE'RE THINKING
[1:43:36] ABOUT, YOU KNOW, JUMPSTARTING
[1:43:38] HOUSING CREATION, YOU KNOW, WE.
[1:43:39] TALKED ABOUT THE STRUCTURAL
[1:43:40] BARRIERS.
[1:43:41] OUR BIG THING IS MAKING SURE
[1:43:42] THAT THERE'S DEEPLY AFFORDABLE
[1:43:43] HOUSING AND LIKE YOU KNOW, THE
[1:43:44] 17 PLUS 3% THAT'S ONE THING WE
[1:43:46] HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH IS
[1:43:47] LIKE THE AFFORDABLE THE NEW
[1:43:49] INCLUSIONARY ZONING REQUIREMENT
[1:43:50] REQUIRES 17% TO BE AFFORDABLE
[1:43:52] AND THEN 3% OF THOSE UNITS TO
[1:43:54] BE FOR VOUCHER.
[1:43:54] HOLDERS WHICH ALLOWS THOSE THAT
[1:43:55] ARE MAKING ESSENTIALLY 0 TO
[1:43:57] 30%.
[1:43:58] AM I TO NOT UH TO BE ABLE TO
[1:44:00] QUALIFY FOR UNITS?
[1:44:00] AND SO I THINK WHEN WE THINK
[1:44:01] ABOUT WHO IS BEING IMPACTED ARE
[1:44:03] THE LIKE MOST LOW INCOME MOST
[1:44:05] UM UM AT RISK OF DISPLACEMENT
[1:44:07] PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED I THINK
[1:44:08] THAT'S THE WAY TO KIND
[1:44:09] OF FRAMEWORK IT.
[1:44:10] UH SO AND THEN YOU TALKED ABOUT
[1:44:12] UH CAMBRIDGE THE AFFORDABLE
[1:44:13] HOUSING WHICH NEVER HAPPENED IN
[1:44:14] CAMBRIDGE.
[1:44:15] UM, FROM MY RESEARCH I
[1:44:17] UNDERSTAND THAT THEY GIVE A
[1:44:18] LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, TO THE
[1:44:20] CREATION OF SUBSIDIZED HOUSING
[1:44:22] THROUGH THE CPA FUND.
[1:44:23] UM, IS CAN YOU TELL ME WHERE
[1:44:26] EACH MEMBER ON THIS PANEL
[1:44:27] STANDS WITH UM PUMPING BOSTON
[1:44:30] CPA FUNDS THE PORTION RIGHT THE
[1:44:34] POOL TO A HIGHER PERCENTAGE.
[1:44:36] AND WE JUST WANT TO START ON
[1:44:38] THE.
[1:44:38] I DON'T.
[1:44:39] KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING WE'VE
[1:44:40] REALLY LOOKED.
[1:44:41] TO THIS I DID.
[1:44:42] MENTION THAT IN.
[1:44:43] THE.
[1:44:43] UH IN THE GOALS THAT'S YOU KNOW
[1:44:45] SOMEWHERE IN THE GOALS AND
[1:44:47] BASICALLY AS I RECALL THE
[1:44:48] LANGUAGE GENERAL LANGUAGE TO
[1:44:50] MAKE SURE THAT THOSE FUNDS ARE
[1:44:52] USED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
[1:44:54] NOT EXCLUSIVELY OPEN SPACE.
[1:44:57] SO UH BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE
[1:44:59] DETAILS BUT WE DID LOOK AT THAT
[1:45:01] ISSUE.
[1:45:01] I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING
[1:45:03] ABOUT FUNDING.
[1:45:04] I MEAN WE REALLY DON'T LOOK AT
[1:45:06] THE FUNDING THING, BUT I THINK
[1:45:08] THE TRANSFER FEE UH, ISSUE IS
[1:45:11] ONE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSFER
[1:45:13] FEE WE NEVER TALK ABOUT FAIR
[1:45:15] HOUSING.
[1:45:16] AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS
[1:45:19] TO HAVE A TRANSFER FEE WOULD BE
[1:45:22] TO SET ASIDE SOME OF THAT MONEY
[1:45:24] FOR FAIR HOUSING GOALS.
[1:45:25] I THINK ONE OF THE CONDITIONS
[1:45:27] IS OFTEN SAY THAT WE.
[1:45:28] EXPERIENCE LIKE.
[1:45:29] WE'VE BEEN A PART OF A BIG PUSH
[1:45:31] TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECTS IN
[1:45:32] NUBIAN SQUARE, FOR EXAMPLE,
[1:45:34] HAVE UH THE FUNDING THEY NEED
[1:45:36] TO GET STARTED.
[1:45:37] UM, THEY YOU KNOW, COMMITMENTS
[1:45:38] ARE MADE, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO
[1:45:40] TO HAVE THESE PROJECTS
[1:45:41] DESIGNATED AND TO BE DEEPLY
[1:45:43] AFFORDABLE.
[1:45:43] AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE
[1:45:44] THAT EXISTING PROJECTS IN THE
[1:45:46] PIPELINE THAT DO HAVE THE
[1:45:48] EFFECT OF, YOU KNOW, A FIRMLY
[1:45:50] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING THAT
[1:45:50] THOSE GET ACROSS THE FINISH
[1:45:52] LINE.
[1:45:52] SO MAKING SURE THOSE PROJECTS
[1:45:53] GET FUNDED WHETHER IT'S THE
[1:45:54] COMMONWEALTH BUILDER AND WE
[1:45:55] HAVE A PETITION THAT'S ACTIVE
[1:45:56] ON OUR WEBSITE AND WHEN I WANT
[1:45:58] TO MAKE SURE THAT COUNCILORS
[1:45:59] HERE ARE WORKING WITH US TO,
[1:46:00] YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE
[1:46:01] THAT THE GOVERNOR AND THE STATE
[1:46:03] BUDGET IS SET UP IN A WAY THAT
[1:46:05] THE CITY OF BOSTON GETS THE
[1:46:05] FUNDING THAT IT NEEDS AND I
[1:46:07] KNOW SHOUT OUTS TO YOU KNOW,
[1:46:08] WERE COUNCIL YOU FOR GETTING AN
[1:46:09] EXTRA 10 MILLION TO THAT
[1:46:11] HUNDRED MILLION DOLLAR FUND UH
[1:46:12] SOME YEARS AGO UH IT'S LIKE WAS
[1:46:14] IT TWO YEARS AGO YOU GOT IT.
[1:46:15] ACTUALLY.
[1:46:15] YEAH YEAH.
[1:46:16] YEAH TIME'S A.
[1:46:17] BLUR BUT ALSO THE THE IDEA THAT
[1:46:18] PEOPLE HAVE AROUND LIKE A BAD
[1:46:19] ACTORS LIST I BELIEVE THERE'S A
[1:46:21] NEW IDEA.
[1:46:22] THAT'S ANOTHER WAY I THINK
[1:46:23] OF HOLDING FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE.
[1:46:24] UM AND SHOUT OUTS TO THOSE WHO
[1:46:25] ARE BEHIND IT.
[1:46:26] THANK YOU.
[1:46:27] THANK YOU,
[1:46:28] COUNCILOR CULPEPPER.
[1:46:29] TWO MINUTES REAL QUICK I WANT
[1:46:32] TO RECOGNIZE BRANDY BROOK.
[1:46:33] SOME HIGHER GROUND ALL THE WAY
[1:46:35] TO BRANDY HAS BEEN DOING ON
[1:46:37] ACTUALLY PLACING FOLKS AND
[1:46:39] HOUSING MONEY.
[1:46:40] I WANT TO ASK YOUR QUESTION
[1:46:41] ABOUT THE CITY POINTS TO A
[1:46:43] PLACE TO THRIVE THE CITY'S
[1:46:45] AFTER DISPLACEMENT ACTION AS
[1:46:47] ONE OF THE PROGRESS UNDER THE A
[1:46:49] OF AIDS.
[1:46:49] AND I'D LIKE TO ASK HER ACCESS
[1:46:52] TO COUNCIL TO SURE PILOT AND
[1:46:53] THE CONDOM AND AND COOPERATIVE
[1:46:55] CONVERSION ORDINANCE OF THESE
[1:46:58] POLICIES ARE THEY ACTUALLY
[1:47:00] PRODUCING MEANINGFUL CHANGES
[1:47:02] FOR THE RESIDENTS ON THE GROUND
[1:47:04] OR IF NOT WHAT NEEDS TO BE
[1:47:07] CHANGED?
[1:47:08] YEAH, I WOULD SAY YOU'D HAVE TO
[1:47:09] LOOK KIND OF EACH POLICY BY
[1:47:10] POLICY TO SEE HOW IT'S BEING
[1:47:12] IMPLEMENTED.
[1:47:12] SO I THINK WHAT I KIND
[1:47:14] OF DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAID
[1:47:15] WHEN YOU READ BACK BUT I
[1:47:16] THOUGHT I THOUGHT YOU HEARD YOU
[1:47:17] MENTIONED IS THE ROLE THAT
[1:47:18] DURING CONDO CONVERSIONS
[1:47:19] THERE'S A LEVEL OF KIND
[1:47:21] OF ACCOUNTABILITY THE DEVELOPER
[1:47:21] HAS TO THE TENANTS TO GIVE THEM
[1:47:23] UH, FAIR NOTICE AND I BELIEVE
[1:47:25] THEY ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUPPORT
[1:47:26] THEM WITH THE UH FUND OF MONEY
[1:47:28] TO MOVE TO THE NEXT LOCATION.
[1:47:29] SO THAT'S A REAL TANGIBLE THING
[1:47:31] THAT IS HAPPENING AND I BELIEVE
[1:47:33] UH, COUNCIL IS A PART HIS
[1:47:34] PREDECESSOR IS WORKING RIGHT
[1:47:35] NOW TO ADVANCE SOMETHING OF THE
[1:47:37] STATE HOUSE THAT WOULD MAKE IT
[1:47:38] SO THAT NOT JUST CONDOMINIUMS
[1:47:39] BUT THREE FAMILY HOMES AND TWO
[1:47:41] FAMILY HOMES ALSO FALL INTO
[1:47:42] THAT.
[1:47:42] SO I THINK THAT AMENDMENT IS A
[1:47:44] PART OF A NEXT STEP IN TRYING
[1:47:46] TO MAKE THESE POLICIES BETTER.
[1:47:48] SO MAKING SURE THE CITY
[1:47:50] COUNCIL HELPS, YOU KNOW, MOVE
[1:47:51] THAT ALONG WOULD BE A WAY TO
[1:47:53] ENSURE THAT.
[1:47:53] BUT EACH THAT'S THE KIND
[1:47:54] OF THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT AND
[1:47:56] UH WE WORK WITH MORE I KNOW
[1:47:57] THERE'S LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S
[1:47:58] THERE'S THINK TANKS AND POLICY
[1:47:59] INSTITUTES OUT THERE NEW ONES
[1:48:01] COMING OUT THAT WE YOU KNOW, WE
[1:48:02] ARE WANTING TO WORK WITH MORE
[1:48:04] AND THE CITY SHOULD BE LOOKING
[1:48:04] TO WORK WITH MORE TO MAKE SURE
[1:48:05] THAT WE HAVE THAT KIND OF DATA
[1:48:07] ON HOW IT AFFECTS BLACK AND
[1:48:08] BROWN RESIDENTS.
[1:48:09] LET ME ANSWER AND THIS IS FOR
[1:48:11] THE ENTIRE PANEL.
[1:48:12] IF YOU WONDER WHAT IS THE MOST
[1:48:13] MEANINGFUL POLICY OR
[1:48:15] ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES THAT BE
[1:48:17] MADE TO THE VA AND THE MAYOR'S
[1:48:18] OFFICE OF HOUSING COULD
[1:48:19] IMPLEMENT RIGHT NOW THE
[1:48:21] EXISTING AUTHORITY WITHOUT
[1:48:23] WAITING FOR LEGISLATION?
[1:48:27] THE MOST MEANINGFUL POLICY OR
[1:48:30] ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGES.
[1:48:33] FOR THE VA.
[1:48:34] OR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF OR
[1:48:36] .
[1:48:37] FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE.
[1:48:40] I WOULD JUST SAY COORDINATION.
[1:48:42] UM UH I THINK THE SILOING IS
[1:48:45] REALLY HOLDING US BACK.
[1:48:46] SO I WOULD SAY COORDINATION IS
[1:48:51] A BIG CHANGE.
[1:48:53] LINSON UM.
[1:48:57] I MEAN I AGREE WITH.
[1:48:58] UH WITH WITH NEEDING AROUND.
[1:49:01] COORDINATOR NATION.
[1:49:02] BUT UH UM.
[1:49:04] IT'S SOMETHING.
[1:49:05] THAT.
[1:49:05] IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD GO
[1:49:07] BEYOND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[1:49:08] OF HOUSING.
[1:49:09] I MEAN, I THINK YOU HAVE ALL
[1:49:11] THESE DIFFERENT CITY OF CITY
[1:49:12] DEPARTMENTS I.
[1:49:13] YET ONE OF THE CHALLENGES WE
[1:49:14] RAN INTO EVEN DOING THE FHA WAS
[1:49:18] UM, HAVING A SINGULAR CITY
[1:49:20] DEPARTMENT, UM, AND THAT
[1:49:23] POLICY.
[1:49:24] THAT FORCE OUR PUSH.
[1:49:26] OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS TO DO X
[1:49:28] AND AND THAT BECAME IN LIMITED
[1:49:30] UH FACTOR AS WE'RE TRYING TO
[1:49:31] MOVE THE.
[1:49:32] FHA FORWARD.
[1:49:33] AND IT BECAME CLEAR TO US THAT.
[1:49:35] IN ORDER FOR.
[1:49:36] THAT TO HAPPEN YOU NEED A A
[1:49:37] MANDATE COMING FROM SOME
[1:49:38] AUTHORITY TO ACTUALLY PUSH CITY
[1:49:40] TO OUR DEMAND.
[1:49:41] CITY DEPARTMENTS WHATEVER IT IS
[1:49:43] THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AND
[1:49:44] DO UM, PART OF THE COORDINATION
[1:49:45] THAT NOBODY IS TALKING ABOUT
[1:49:46] IT.
[1:49:47] WELL IN MY VIEW YOU NEED A
[1:49:49] COORDINATED EFFORT, A MANDATE
[1:49:50] AROUND UM FIRST OF ALL WHAT IS
[1:49:52] THE HOUSING?
[1:49:53] HOW DOES IT IMPACT THE WORK
[1:49:54] THAT YOU DO?
[1:49:55] UM HOW DOES THAT WORK MANIFEST
[1:49:58] ITSELF AND UM AND HAVE A KIND
[1:50:00] OF A UNIVERSAL UH, DEFINITION
[1:50:02] AROUND WHAT EQUITY FAILS AND IS
[1:50:04] BUT THAT HAS TO COME FROM
[1:50:05] SOMEONE WHO HAS THE AUTHORITY
[1:50:06] THEN TO ACTUALLY UH, MAKE SURE
[1:50:08] ARE IN FORCE THAT THESE THINGS
[1:50:10] ARE HAPPENING.
[1:50:10] SO I THINK THAT THE
[1:50:12] COORDINATION IS IS.
[1:50:13] KEY BUT I.
[1:50:14] THINK IT GOES BEYOND I MEAN IT
[1:50:15] WAS OFFICE OF HOUSING PROGRAM.
[1:50:17] YEAH.
[1:50:19] WELL PEOPLE THAT'S A THAT'S
[1:50:21] A PROGRAM THAT ADMINISTERS THE
[1:50:22] FAMILY SELF-SUFFICIENCY FUND
[1:50:24] WHERE YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.
[1:50:25] A LOT OF PEOPLE CLAIM THAT
[1:50:26] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW,
[1:50:27] KEEPS YOU POOR BECAUSE THERE'S
[1:50:28] NO WAY TO SAVE MONEY.
[1:50:29] THEY HAVE A PROGRAM FSS PROGRAM
[1:50:31] YOU CAN SAVE MONEY.
[1:50:33] UH I THINK I BELIEVE THE CITY
[1:50:34] OF BOSTON IS GOING TO GRADUATE
[1:50:35] ITS FIRST COHORT OF LIKE YOU
[1:50:37] KNOW, THEY HELPED 70 PEOPLE BUY
[1:50:38] HOMES.
[1:50:39] THAT IS REAL LIFE TANGIBLE
[1:50:41] THINGS THAT VHA WAS ABLE TO DO
[1:50:43] WITHOUT PASSING A POLICY.
[1:50:44] AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WORKING
[1:50:45] TO MAKE SURE EVERY TENANT IN
[1:50:48] YOUR DISTRICT KNOWS ABOUT THAT
[1:50:50] PROGRAM AND THAT THEY UH OR
[1:50:51] THAT THERE'S SOMEONE IN A
[1:50:53] COORDINATION POSITION AT THE
[1:50:54] BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY DOING
[1:50:55] THAT ROLE, UM, AT THAT
[1:50:57] DEVELOPMENT FACILITY UM, WOULD
[1:50:58] BE A REALLY LIKE SIMPLE OR NOT
[1:51:00] SIMPLE BUT A REAL TANGIBLE WAY
[1:51:01] TO INCREASE PEOPLE'S WEALTH AND
[1:51:03] UM, CLOSE SOME OF THESE WEALTH
[1:51:04] GAPS FOR RESIDENTS.
[1:51:05] YOU GOING TO WORK WITH ME TO
[1:51:07] MAKE SURE EVERYONE OF MY
[1:51:07] DISTRICT KNOWS ABOUT THAT?
[1:51:08] THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
[1:51:09] LET'S DO IT.
[1:51:10] THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
[1:51:11] AND SOMETHING ARMANI.
[1:51:12] MENTIONED I.
[1:51:13] DO I DO THINK I REMEMBER
[1:51:14] THAT COUNCILOR BREADON IN
[1:51:16] COUNCIL CALLED US ABOUT A.
[1:51:17] FEW WEEKS AGO.
[1:51:18] DID INTRODUCE SOMETHING.
[1:51:19] TO OPT IN FOR MUNICIPALITIES
[1:51:21] FOR THE AFFORDABLE.
[1:51:22] HOMES.
[1:51:22] ACT THAT INCLUDE.
[1:51:23] 2 TO 3 UNITS.
[1:51:24] FOR HOMES FOR CONDO
[1:51:25] CONVERSIONS.
[1:51:25] YES.
[1:51:26] SO THAT WAS A THAT WAS A
[1:51:28] GOOD MOVE.
[1:51:28] SO SHOUT OUT TO THEM.
[1:51:29] UM OKAY.
[1:51:31] COUNCILMAN TWO MINUTES.
[1:51:34] SO YOU KNOW I'M.
[1:51:35] MAKING THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE
[1:51:36] SUCH A GOOD TURNOUT IS BECAUSE
[1:51:38] I BELIEVE.
[1:51:39] MY COLLEAGUES UNDERSTAND THAT
[1:51:40] HOUSING IS.
[1:51:41] UH, SOCIAL DETERMINANTS OF.
[1:51:42] HEALTH BACK THERE.
[1:51:43] RIGHT.
[1:51:43] AND SO LIKE WE UNDERSTAND THE
[1:51:45] BIG PICTURE HERE IF YOU'RE
[1:51:46] HOUSING INSECURE YOU'RE.
[1:51:48] THE WHOLE WORLD IS JUST GOING
[1:51:49] TO COME CRUMBLING DOWN.
[1:51:50] SO WE UNDERSTAND WE GOT THE
[1:51:52] ASSIGNMENT.
[1:51:52] UM.
[1:51:54] SO I JUST HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
[1:51:55] ONE IS IN REGARDS.
[1:51:57] TO UM.
[1:51:59] POTENTIALLY HOW BHP CAN ALSO BE
[1:52:01] DRIVING THE IN UH THE HOUSING
[1:52:05] UNAFFORDABILITY FACTORS BECAUSE
[1:52:06] I KNOW THAT THE HRA VOUCHERS
[1:52:08] ARE $3,000 FOR A TWO BEDROOM
[1:52:10] THAT ALSO IMPACTS THE UH THE
[1:52:13] DYNAMICS.
[1:52:14] SO I'M JUST CURIOUS KIND
[1:52:15] OF WHAT THINKING IF ANY YOU
[1:52:17] WANT TO SHARE REGARDING THAT
[1:52:19] CONVERSATION THAT I THINK THE
[1:52:20] CITY NEEDS TO HAVE MY
[1:52:22] COUNCIL COLLEAGUE
[1:52:22] COUNCILOR WEBER MENTIONED.
[1:52:24] CITY VOUCHERS AS SOMETHING AS
[1:52:26] ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
[1:52:28] THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE
[1:52:29] CONTROL OVER.
[1:52:29] SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR
[1:52:31] INSIGHT ON HOW WE CAN.
[1:52:31] POUR MORE.
[1:52:33] INTO THAT UM, BUDGET LINE ITEM.
[1:52:35] AND UH, LASTLY, I THINK IT'S
[1:52:38] IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALSO KNOW
[1:52:40] ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
[1:52:43] LIKE WE CAN KEEP HAVING THESE
[1:52:44] CONVERSATIONS BUT UNLESS WE
[1:52:45] REALLY REALIZE THIS WHOLE IDEA
[1:52:47] OF LIKE HOW WE'RE GOING TO HOLD
[1:52:48] OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE AND WHAT
[1:52:49] THE ENFORCEMENT IS GOING TO
[1:52:51] LOOK LIKE IN TERMS OF FEES AND
[1:52:53] IN TERMS OF ALSO HOLDING THE
[1:52:55] CITY ACCOUNTABLE TO ITS OWN
[1:52:56] ENFORCEMENT AT WHAT POINT IT
[1:52:57] WE'RE GOING TO START BEING A
[1:52:59] LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE.
[1:53:00] AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT
[1:53:02] YOU COULD CHANGE IN THE CURRENT
[1:53:03] UH, AMENDMENT, YOU KNOW, ANY
[1:53:05] AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO
[1:53:06] MAKE TO THE CURRENT STRUCTURE
[1:53:07] THAT WE HAVE?
[1:53:08] I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT THOSE
[1:53:09] AMENDMENTS COULD LOOK LIKE.
[1:53:10] I KNOW THAT'S A LOT, BUT I WANT
[1:53:13] YOU ALL TO.
[1:53:14] ANSWER OKAY.
[1:53:15] LOOKING TO SEE.
[1:53:16] SO SO IN TERMS OF VOUCHERS WE
[1:53:18] SHOULD ALSO BE THINKING ABOUT
[1:53:20] PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS.
[1:53:22] A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT IN THE
[1:53:23] COUNTRY UH HAS TAKEN PLACE NOT
[1:53:25] JUST WITH INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLD
[1:53:26] VOUCHERS BUT PROJECT BASED UH
[1:53:28] VOUCHERS THAT HAVE UH ACTUALLY
[1:53:30] .
[1:53:31] CITY COUNCILOR.
[1:53:31] CULPEPPER CAN SAY MORE OF THIS
[1:53:33] BECAUSE HE WAS AT HUD AT A
[1:53:34] POINT WHERE PROJECT BASED
[1:53:36] VOUCHERS WERE BEING PUSHED ALL
[1:53:38] OVER THE PLACE.
[1:53:40] WE REHABILITATED IN BOSTON 2100
[1:53:42] UNITS BASED ON PROJECT BASED
[1:53:44] VOUCHERS.
[1:53:44] BUT PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS
[1:53:46] ALLOW ONE TO DO ALLOW
[1:53:47] GOVERNMENT TO DO IS SAY WE WANT
[1:53:49] TO DEVELOP IN THIS AREA AND WE
[1:53:51] WANT THIS AREA TO LOOK THIS WAY
[1:53:53] AND THAT WAY, YOU KNOW.
[1:53:54] FULL OF BUSTING HERE.
[1:53:55] JAMES I ASKED A LOT
[1:53:57] OF QUESTIONS.
[1:53:57] OKAY?
[1:53:57] I WANT.
[1:53:58] TO.
[1:53:58] MAKE SURE I.
[1:53:58] HEAR FROM EVERYBODY OKAY.
[1:53:59] YEAH DON'T BE.
[1:53:59] SHY OKAY.
[1:54:00] SO SO UM SO WRAP IT UP.
[1:54:03] OKAY.
[1:54:04] THIS IS THE WRAP UP.
[1:54:06] THE.
[1:54:07] UH I THINK THE CITY STILL
[1:54:08] HAS A BANKING ORDINANCE ON THE
[1:54:10] BOOKS.
[1:54:10] OKAY.
[1:54:11] I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEING
[1:54:12] ENFORCED OR NOT, BUT A FEW
[1:54:13] YEARS AGO THE CITY
[1:54:15] COUNCIL PASSED A BANKING
[1:54:16] ORDINANCE TO HOLD BANKS
[1:54:17] ACCOUNTABLE.
[1:54:18] BANKS HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH YOU
[1:54:20] KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.
[1:54:21] ALL RIGHT.
[1:54:22] SO I'M CURIOUS ABOUT.
[1:54:24] COUNCILMEMBER HERE.
[1:54:25] YEP.
[1:54:25] THIS IS YOUR LAST QUESTION.
[1:54:26] NO NO I NEED THEM TO APOLOGIZE
[1:54:28] FOR MY QUESTION.
[1:54:29] BUT I KNOW THERE WERE SOME
[1:54:30] QUESTIONS THAT DID NOT GET
[1:54:31] ANSWERED.
[1:54:32] UH.
[1:54:33] I'LL JUST SAY ON THE UH
[1:54:36] VOUCHER ISSUE.
[1:54:37] UH.
[1:54:38] .
[1:54:38] I THINK THE CITY HAS TO DO MORE
[1:54:41] TO ENSURE.
[1:54:43] NONDISCRIMINATION IN THE USE
[1:54:44] OF THE VOUCHERS AND NOT LEAVE.
[1:54:47] IT UP.
[1:54:47] TO THE INDIVIDUAL.
[1:54:50] UM.
[1:54:51] UH, TENANT WHO'S LOOKING FOR
[1:54:53] HOUSING AND WHAT WE ALWAYS USED
[1:54:55] TO SAY UNFAIR HOUSING TENANTS
[1:54:57] NEED LIKE HOUSING.
[1:55:00] THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO STOP
[1:55:01] AND FILE A COMPLAINT AND GO
[1:55:03] THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS.
[1:55:05] THEY NEED TO FIND A PLACE FOR
[1:55:07] THEIR FAMILY TO LIVE.
[1:55:09] SO I THINK THE CITY HAS TO BE
[1:55:11] MORE SYSTEMIC AND UM, MORE
[1:55:14] AGGRESSIVE IF UH, THERE SHOULD
[1:55:17] BE A LIST OF HOUSING PROVIDERS
[1:55:19] WHO DON'T TAKE SECTION EIGHT
[1:55:21] AND THERE SHOULD BE.
[1:55:22] PENALTIES FOR THOSE UH,
[1:55:25] ENTITIES AND I UM I REALLY
[1:55:28] THINK THERE HAS TO BE MORE
[1:55:30] AGGRESSION AND UH, MORE
[1:55:32] ENFORCEMENT.
[1:55:33] AND ANY AMENDMENTS THAT YOU'D
[1:55:34] LIKE TO SEE TO THE CURRENT.
[1:55:36] AS WE NEED TO DO EVERYTHING WE
[1:55:38] CAN TO GET UNIVERSITIES TO PAY
[1:55:39] MORE INTO THE HOUSING KIND
[1:55:41] OF LIKE UH SOLUTION.
[1:55:43] UM AND WE WERE ABLE TO GET AN
[1:55:45] ADDITION TO PUT UP UH $10
[1:55:47] MILLION AND THERE'S NOW TENS
[1:55:49] OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF DOWN
[1:55:50] PAYMENT ASSISTANCE AVAILABLE TO
[1:55:51] ROXBURY MISSION HEALTH AND
[1:55:53] FENWAY RESIDENTS THAT THAT'S
[1:55:55] BECAUSE OF ADVOCACY THE YOU
[1:55:57] KNOW, IT DIDN'T TAKE A LIKE
[1:55:59] BILL TO BE PASSED ON EACH PILOT
[1:56:00] AND EACH INSTITUTIONAL MASTER
[1:56:02] PLAN THAT EXISTS.
[1:56:03] THE CITY NEEDS TO MAKE SURE
[1:56:04] THOSE UNIVERSITIES ARE DOING
[1:56:06] THEIR PART AND FAIR AND
[1:56:07] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[1:56:08] HOUSING.
[1:56:10] THANK YOU I APPRECIATE.
[1:56:12] THANK YOU.
[1:56:13] AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO MY
[1:56:15] COLLEAGUES FOR OUR.
[1:56:16] FOR THE COOPERATION.
[1:56:17] THIS IS A VERY NICELY.
[1:56:18] ATTENDED HEARING AND I KNOW
[1:56:19] THAT WE HAVE GREAT QUESTIONS
[1:56:21] FOR ALL OF YOU.
[1:56:22] BUT AT THIS TIME.
[1:56:23] I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
[1:56:25] FOR THANK.
[1:56:25] YOU FOR BEING HERE AS
[1:56:26] PANELISTS WE ARE GOING TO
[1:56:27] TRANSITION TO OUR SECOND PANEL
[1:56:29] AND AS WE DO THAT I DO WANT TO
[1:56:31] INVITE TWO PEOPLE TO PROVIDE
[1:56:33] PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
[1:56:34] UM, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE.
[1:56:36] TWO MINUTES.
[1:56:37] ON THE MICS.
[1:56:38] UM I BELIEVE THE FIRST ONE IS
[1:56:40] JILLIAN LANSON AND THEN SECOND
[1:56:42] WILL BE TRISTAN THOMAS JILLIAN.
[1:56:46] ABSOLUTELY.
[1:56:47] AND SEND ANGEL.
[1:56:51] PERFECT IS TRISTAN THOMAS.
[1:56:53] YES.
[1:56:53] FOR IF YOU MAKE YOUR WAY DOWN
[1:56:55] YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES TO PROVIDE
[1:56:56] YOUR TESTIMONY AND THEN IF THE
[1:56:58] PEOPLE FROM THE CITY CAN PLEASE
[1:56:59] TAKE A SEAT.
[1:57:02] AND THEN WE WILL DO THE REST
[1:57:04] OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY AFTER WE
[1:57:05] HEAR FROM THE CITY.
[1:57:08] SOUNDS GOOD.
[1:57:09] GOOD AFTERNOON.
[1:57:10] COUNCILORS APPRECIATE YOUR TIME
[1:57:11] AND ATTENTION.
[1:57:13] MY NAME IS TRISTAN THOMAS.
[1:57:14] I WORK AS DIRECTOR OF POLICY
[1:57:16] AND LAW FOR ACE ALTERNATIVES
[1:57:18] FOR COMMUNITY AND ENVIRONMENT,
[1:57:19] A 30 YEAR OLD ENVIRONMENTAL
[1:57:21] JUSTICE NONPROFIT BASED IN
[1:57:23] ROXBURY.
[1:57:24] THE FAIR HOUSING ACT OF 1968
[1:57:26] WAS SIGNED INTO LAW ONE WEEK
[1:57:28] AFTER DOCTOR KING WAS
[1:57:29] ASSASSINATED.
[1:57:30] ITS LEGACY IS ROOTED IN THE
[1:57:32] CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WHERE YOU
[1:57:34] LIVE CAN DETERMINE YOUR ACCESS
[1:57:36] TO SCHOOLS, JOBS, HEALTH CARE,
[1:57:38] SAFETY AND DIGNITY AND DESPITE
[1:57:39] SOME PROGRESS, THE HISTORY AND
[1:57:42] LEGACY OF REDLINING, RACIAL
[1:57:44] COVENANTS, BLOCKBUSTING AND
[1:57:46] DISCRIMINATORY LENDING ARE
[1:57:47] STILL WITH US TODAY.
[1:57:48] ONLY 30% OF BOSTON'S BLACK
[1:57:50] FAMILIES OWN HOMES, COMPARED TO
[1:57:53] 73% OF WHITE FAMILIES.
[1:57:54] MORTGAGE DENIAL RATES FOR BLACK
[1:57:56] BOSTONIANS ARE MORE THAN TWICE
[1:57:58] AS HIGH AS COMPARED TO WHITE
[1:58:00] RESIDENTS.
[1:58:00] BLACK HOUSEHOLDS IN THE CITY
[1:58:02] EARN A MEDIAN HOUSEHOLD INCOME
[1:58:04] OF JUST $58,600.
[1:58:07] THAT'S HOUSEHOLD INCOME
[1:58:08] COMPARED TO 128,900 FOR WHITE
[1:58:11] FAMILIES.
[1:58:12] MORE THAN A QUARTER OF BOSTON'S
[1:58:14] RENTER HOUSEHOLDS SPEND OVER
[1:58:15] HALF THEIR INCOME ON RENT, AND
[1:58:17] WHILE BLACK RESIDENTS MAKE UP
[1:58:19] JUST 8% OF GREATER BOSTON'S
[1:58:21] POPULATION, WE ACCOUNT FOR 52%
[1:58:23] OF THE POPULATION EXPERIENCING
[1:58:24] HOMELESSNESS.
[1:58:26] BOSTON'S AFFIRMATIVELY
[1:58:27] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING
[1:58:28] PROVISION REQUIRES MORE THAN
[1:58:30] SIMPLY PREVENTING
[1:58:31] DISCRIMINATION.
[1:58:32] IT MEANS TAKING MEANINGFUL
[1:58:33] ACTION THAT TAKEN TOGETHER,
[1:58:35] ADDRESSES SIGNIFICANT
[1:58:37] DISPARITIES IN HOUSING NEEDS
[1:58:38] AND AN ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY
[1:58:40] REPLACING SEGREGATED LIVING
[1:58:41] PATTERNS BUT TRULY INTEGRATED
[1:58:43] AND BALANCED LIVING PATTERNS
[1:58:44] AND TRANSFORMING RACIALLY AND
[1:58:46] ETHNICALLY CONCENTRATED AREAS
[1:58:48] OF POVERTY INTO AREAS
[1:58:49] OF OPPORTUNITY.
[1:58:50] FAIR HOUSING CANNOT BE AN
[1:58:52] AFTERTHOUGHT.
[1:58:52] IT CANNOT BE A NICE TO HAVE
[1:58:54] APPENDED TO THE END OF A
[1:58:55] HOUSING PLAN.
[1:58:56] IT IS THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH
[1:58:57] EVERYTHING ELSE STANDS.
[1:58:59] HOUSING IS THE NUMBER ONE
[1:59:00] CHALLENGE FACING THE PEOPLE
[1:59:01] OF THE CITY.
[1:59:02] EVERY DAY WE DELAY MORE.
[1:59:04] BOSTONIANS ARE PUSHED FURTHER
[1:59:05] TO THE MARGINS AND ITS BLACK
[1:59:06] AND BROWN RESIDENTS,
[1:59:08] IMMIGRANTS, PEOPLE WITH
[1:59:10] DISABILITIES AND LOW INCOME
[1:59:11] FAMILIES ARE THOSE WHO ARE
[1:59:12] PUSHED HARDEST AND FURTHEST.
[1:59:14] SO I'M ASKING THE CITY
[1:59:15] OF BOSTON TO COMMIT HARD NOT
[1:59:17] WITH STATEMENTS BUT WITH
[1:59:19] RESOURCES AND THE BUDGET
[1:59:21] ENFORCEMENT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
[1:59:22] THROUGH THE AGENCIES WE DEMAND
[1:59:24] INCREASED STAFF AND FUNDING FOR
[1:59:25] FAIR HOUSING TESTING AND
[1:59:27] ENFORCEMENT.
[1:59:28] WE DEMAND TYING CITY DOLLARS TO
[1:59:30] REAL AFFORDABILITY AND REAL
[1:59:31] ACCESS AND WE DEMAND MEASURABLE
[1:59:33] GOALS AND PUBLIC REPORTING.
[1:59:35] WE MUST NOT SHY AWAY FROM
[1:59:37] EMBRACING FAIR HOUSING.
[1:59:38] IT IS THE LEGACY OF OUR
[1:59:39] ANCESTORS AND ONE OF THE MOST
[1:59:40] POWERFUL TOOLS WE HAVE TO
[1:59:41] ADDRESS CHALLENGES.
[1:59:42] THANK YOU.
[1:59:43] THANK YOU OKAY.
[1:59:46] WE ARE NOW GOING TO MOVE
[1:59:48] FORWARD WITH OUR SECOND PANEL
[1:59:49] ON.
[1:59:50] AND DUANE, THANK YOU SO MUCH
[1:59:51] FOR BEING HERE.
[1:59:53] IF YOU CAN.
[1:59:54] PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELVES
[1:59:55] KEEP YOUR TITLES OFFICER YOU
[1:59:57] WORK FOR AND THEN YOU MAY
[1:59:58] PROCEED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
[2:00:00] OR IS YOURS.
[2:00:02] THANK YOU.
[2:00:02] UH, MR CHAIR, I WANT TO THANK
[2:00:04] THE CHAIR SPONSORS, UM, THE
[2:00:06] COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND, UM, THE
[2:00:08] REST OF THE COUNCIL PRESENT
[2:00:10] HERE.
[2:00:11] UH, I ALSO WANT TO THANK OUR
[2:00:12] COLLEAGUES.
[2:00:13] WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THIS
[2:00:14] WORK.
[2:00:15] AND WHO.
[2:00:16] CONTINUE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS
[2:00:17] WORK AND.
[2:00:18] TO THIS PRESENTATION.
[2:00:20] UM AND SPECIAL THANKS TO THE
[2:00:21] LATE BOB TERRELL WHO WORKED ON
[2:00:23] THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[2:00:24] AS AN ADVOCATE, AS A STAFF
[2:00:27] MEMBER AT THE BOSTON HOUSING
[2:00:28] AUTHORITY AND AS THE EXECUTIVE
[2:00:31] DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[2:00:32] HOUSING AND EQUITY AND ALSO TO
[2:00:34] JOYCE RIVERA GONZALEZ, WHO
[2:00:35] OWNED MUCH OF THIS WORK AS A
[2:00:37] PROJECT LEAD AT THE OFFICE
[2:00:38] OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.
[2:00:40] MY NAME IS UNLEY.
[2:00:42] UM I'M THE DEPUTY CHIEF
[2:00:44] OF POLICY AND PROGRAMS AT THE
[2:00:45] EQUITY AND INCLUSION CABINET.
[2:00:47] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
[2:00:49] MY NAME IS DUANE WANTS.
[2:00:50] AND.
[2:00:51] THE DEPUTY.
[2:00:52] DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[2:00:53] HOUSING.
[2:00:53] AND EQUITY.
[2:00:54] UM, IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE
[2:00:56] TODAY.
[2:00:56] TO TALK ABOUT, UH.
[2:00:57] THIS IMPORTANT TOPIC.
[2:01:03] SO I'LL START UM.
[2:01:05] SO THE OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING
[2:01:06] INEQUITY, WHAT.
[2:01:07] DO.
[2:01:07] WE DO?
[2:01:08] UM, OUR OFFICE.
[2:01:09] IS IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING.
[2:01:11] FEDERAL AND LOCAL.
[2:01:12] FAIR HOUSING LAWS.
[2:01:13] AND OUR SHOP.
[2:01:14] IS.
[2:01:15] BROKEN UP.
[2:01:15] INTO TWO DIFFERENT PIECES.
[2:01:16] SO THERE'S THE INVESTIGATIVE
[2:01:17] SIDE THAT DOES.
[2:01:18] INVESTIGATIONS AND ENFORCEMENT
[2:01:19] AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THE
[2:01:20] POLICY AND.
[2:01:21] OUTREACH PIECE.
[2:01:22] UM, BUT AS FAR AS THE
[2:01:23] INVESTIGATION PIECE GOES, UM,
[2:01:25] WE INVESTIGATE HOUSING.
[2:01:26] DISCRIMINATION.
[2:01:27] ENFORCE FEDERAL AND STATE.
[2:01:29] FEDERAL AND.
[2:01:30] STATE HOUSING LAWS.
[2:01:31] UM AND THEN WE HAVE.
[2:01:32] FOLKS FILED.
[2:01:33] COMPLAINTS UM, AND THOSE IN
[2:01:35] THOSE HOUSING COMPLAINTS UM
[2:01:36] THEY MUST HAPPEN IN BOSTON.
[2:01:38] UM THERE MUST BE AN EFFECTIVE
[2:01:39] PARTY.
[2:01:39] THAT BELONGS.
[2:01:40] TO A.
[2:01:41] PROTECTED CLASS.
[2:01:41] AND THERE'S A TIMELINESS PIECE
[2:01:43] IN IT AS WELL.
[2:01:44] WHERE FOLKS HAVE TO FILE WITHIN
[2:01:46] 180 DAYS OF THE.
[2:01:48] OF THE.
[2:01:48] DISCRIMINATORY ACT.
[2:01:50] THE OTHER PIECE OF OUR SHOP IS
[2:01:52] POLICY AND OUTREACH.
[2:01:54] AND THAT'S WHERE THE
[2:01:55] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[2:01:56] HOUSING FOR.
[2:01:57] ALL SORT OF FALLS INTO PLAY.
[2:01:59] THERE'S AN IMPLEMENTATION
[2:02:00] OF THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR
[2:02:01] HOUSING, WHICH IS A CITYWIDE
[2:02:02] ACTION.
[2:02:03] PLAN WITH MORE.
[2:02:04] THAN 100 ACTION ITEMS.
[2:02:06] UM WE ALSO OFFER TRAININGS ON
[2:02:07] FAIR HOUSING ACROSS THE CITY
[2:02:09] AND EXTERNALLY AND INTERNALLY
[2:02:11] AS WELL.
[2:02:11] UM.
[2:02:12] AND THEN WE ALSO ENGAGE WITH
[2:02:13] FAIR HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS,
[2:02:15] AGENCIES.
[2:02:16] REGIONALLY AND NATIONWIDE.
[2:02:21] SO I'M.
[2:02:21] GOING TO GO OVER UM SOME
[2:02:23] OF THE UH THE BACKGROUND VERY
[2:02:24] QUICKLY.
[2:02:25] I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THIS HAS
[2:02:26] ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED SO I
[2:02:27] APOLOGIZE.
[2:02:28] UM, WE UH, ANTICIPATED UM BEING
[2:02:30] ON THE FIRST PANEL.
[2:02:32] SO UM, JUST WANTED TO UH UH,
[2:02:35] SAY UH AND AFFIRM THAT, UH,
[2:02:38] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING FAIR
[2:02:39] HOUSING UM, COMES OUT OF THE
[2:02:43] FEDERAL UH, FAIR HOUSING ACT.
[2:02:45] UH, BUT UM, THE FEDERAL
[2:02:47] GOVERNMENT UH, DID NOT UH, PAY
[2:02:50] MUCH ATTENTION TO IT UH, UNTIL
[2:02:52] THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION IN
[2:02:54] 2015, UH, WHEN IT ISSUED A RULE
[2:02:57] UM, AND ESSENTIALLY AS MANY
[2:02:59] HAVE SAID, UM IT'S AN
[2:03:00] OBLIGATION TO TAKE PROACTIVE
[2:03:01] STEPS, UM, TO UNDO HISTORIC
[2:03:03] PATTERNS OF SEGREGATION,
[2:03:05] ADDRESS DISPARITIES AND EXPAND
[2:03:07] ACCESS TO OPPORTUNITY AS
[2:03:08] RELATES TO HOUSING.
[2:03:14] SO WHEN THE OBAMA
[2:03:15] ADMINISTRATION UM, ISSUED THIS
[2:03:17] .
[2:03:17] RULE.
[2:03:17] THE CITY OF BOSTON, UH,
[2:03:19] BEGAN THE PROCESS OF CREATING
[2:03:20] AN ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[2:03:22] IN 2016, UM ENLISTED A
[2:03:25] COMMUNITY ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
[2:03:26] YOU'VE MET SOME OF THOSE UH,
[2:03:28] FOLKS UH, JUST NOW ON THE
[2:03:30] PREVIOUS PANEL.
[2:03:31] UM, AND IN 2022, UM, MAYOR WU
[2:03:35] ISSUED HER FIRST EXECUTIVE
[2:03:36] ORDER UM, UNDER HER UM
[2:03:40] ADMINISTRATION WHICH WAS, UH,
[2:03:43] TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE
[2:03:45] ACTION ITEMS OF THE ASSESSMENT
[2:03:46] OF FAIR HOUSING.
[2:03:50] SO, UH, AS YOU MAY HAVE
[2:03:51] TROUBLE.
[2:03:52] READING HERE.
[2:03:54] UM, THERE ARE 14 GOALS.
[2:03:57] UM, AND WITHIN THOSE GOALS
[2:03:59] THERE ARE UM SEVERAL ACTION
[2:04:02] STEPS FOR EACH GOAL UM TOTALING
[2:04:04] TO 108 ACTION STEPS.
[2:04:07] UM, SO UH EVEN THOUGH IT'S
[2:04:09] CALLED AN ASSESSMENT UH AND
[2:04:11] REVIEW THE HISTORICAL AND
[2:04:12] CURRENT STATE OF FAIR HOUSING
[2:04:14] IN BOSTON UH AND INCORPORATED
[2:04:16] COMMUNITY INPUT.
[2:04:16] ALL RIGHT.
[2:04:17] CONSIDER DEMOGRAPHIC DATA AND
[2:04:19] OTHER FACTORS.
[2:04:20] UH IT ALSO IDENTIFIED AREAS
[2:04:22] OF OPPORTUNITY RIGHT.
[2:04:23] AND AND THOSE AREAS
[2:04:25] OF OPPORTUNITY TRANSLATE INTO
[2:04:26] THESE UH TANGIBLE ACTION STEPS
[2:04:28] ,UM, THAT SORT OF FLOW FROM
[2:04:30] THE 14.
[2:04:31] GOALS SO THE ACTION STEPS
[2:04:33] THEMSELVES.
[2:04:33] UM, UH SOME OF THE ACTION STEPS
[2:04:35] THEMSELVES HAVE UH SUB UH TASKS
[2:04:38] AS WELL.
[2:04:41] SO THE MAIN STAKEHOLDERS
[2:04:42] INVOLVED IN CARRYING OUT UH THE
[2:04:45] ACTION STEPS UM, AND THE GOALS
[2:04:48] ARE WHAT WE CALL REPORTING
[2:04:51] AGENCIES.
[2:04:51] SO THIS IS SEVEN UH CITY
[2:04:54] OF BOSTON AGENCIES MAYOR'S
[2:04:56] OFFICE OF HOUSING PLANNING
[2:04:58] DEPARTMENT, THE BOSTON HOUSING
[2:04:59] AUTHORITY, THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[2:05:01] HOUSING AND EQUITY ITSELF, UH,
[2:05:02] BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS AND THE
[2:05:04] BOSTON PUBLIC HEALTH
[2:05:05] COMMISSION.
[2:05:06] SO THERE ARE REPRESENTATIVES
[2:05:08] FROM EACH OF.
[2:05:09] THOSE AGENCIES.
[2:05:09] WHO UH, ARE UM TASKED WITH UM
[2:05:15] ENSURING THAT THEY'RE UH
[2:05:17] RESPECTIVE AGENCY IS UH, MAKING
[2:05:20] PROGRESS.
[2:05:21] ON THESE GOALS.
[2:05:22] THERE IS THE MONITORING
[2:05:24] COMMITTEE UM, THAT IS UH
[2:05:26] COMPRISED OF MEMBERS OF THE
[2:05:29] COMMUNITY ADVISORY COUNCIL THAT
[2:05:30] .
[2:05:31] DID THE ASSESSMENT.
[2:05:32] UM THERE ARE UH FOUR.
[2:05:34] OF THE.
[2:05:36] ORGANIZATIONS UH, REPRESENTED
[2:05:37] NAMED HERE BUT THERE ARE OTHER
[2:05:38] FOLKS AS WELL.
[2:05:39] UH, AND THEN THERE ARE
[2:05:40] COORDINATING BODIES.
[2:05:41] SO THE IMPLEMENTATION IS
[2:05:42] COORDINATED BY THE OFFICE
[2:05:44] OF FAIR HOUSING EQUITY AND BY
[2:05:46] LEADERSHIP IN THE EQUITY
[2:05:46] INCLUSION CABINET.
[2:05:47] UM, THAT'S OUTLINED UH, IN THE
[2:05:50] MAYOR'S SECOND ORDER AS WELL AS
[2:05:51] THE ASSESSMENT.
[2:05:52] UM, AND SO UM, WHAT WE DO IS UH
[2:05:55] ,AS THE COORDINATING BODIES UH
[2:05:58] ,IS WE COLLECT UPDATES FROM
[2:05:59] THE.
[2:05:59] REPORTING AGENCIES.
[2:06:01] WE CONVEY THE PRIORITIES.
[2:06:02] OF THE AGENCIES.
[2:06:03] UM, TO UH, THE MONITORING
[2:06:05] COMMITTEE, WE CONVEY THE
[2:06:07] MONITORING COMMITTEE'S
[2:06:08] PRIORITIES TO THE.
[2:06:09] REPORTING AGENCIES.
[2:06:10] AND THEN WE CONVENE ALL OF THEM
[2:06:11] QUARTERLY.
[2:06:13] UM, OF COURSE THERE ARE OTHER.
[2:06:14] DEPARTMENTS THAT, UH, HAVE
[2:06:17] ASSIGNMENTS AND OTHERS WITH.
[2:06:19] ROLES UH, TO PLAY AS
[2:06:21] COLLABORATORS.
[2:06:23] SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE EIGHT
[2:06:24] STRONG COMMISSION.
[2:06:29] SO I WANTED TO SHARE A.
[2:06:30] LITTLE BIT.
[2:06:31] ABOUT.
[2:06:31] HOW UH WE TRACK PROGRESS.
[2:06:33] UM, THAT UH WASN'T REALLY
[2:06:35] COVERED IN THE.
[2:06:36] ASSESSMENT OR THE EXECUTIVE
[2:06:37] ORDER.
[2:06:37] AND SO OUT OF UM UH, SOME UH,
[2:06:41] CONVERSATIONS WITH THE MONITOR
[2:06:43] COMMITTEE AND REPORTING
[2:06:43] AGENCIES AND LOOKING AT BEST
[2:06:45] PRACTICES UM, IN THE UNITED
[2:06:46] STATES, UM, WE DECIDED TO.
[2:06:48] GO.
[2:06:48] WITH THIS AND UNFORTUNATELY.
[2:06:49] IT'S IT'S A LITTLE BIT.
[2:06:50] CHALLENGING TO SEE.
[2:06:52] SO RATHER THAN SAYING THAT
[2:06:54] SOMETHING UH, IS UH IN
[2:06:57] PROGRESS.
[2:06:57] AND THEN DONE OR.
[2:06:58] SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND THEN
[2:06:59] YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE HOW DO WE
[2:07:01] FIGURE THAT OUT?
[2:07:01] UH, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH UH.
[2:07:03] INFANCY PLANNING, PILOTING,
[2:07:06] EVALUATING AND SUSTAINING AND
[2:07:08] WE WERE VERY INTENTIONAL WITH
[2:07:10] UH SUSTAINING IN PARTICULAR UM
[2:07:13] ,TO SORT OF IMPRESS UPON ALL.
[2:07:16] OF THE CITY AGENCIES INVOLVED.
[2:07:17] THAT UM, THIS.
[2:07:19] WORK IS NOT A CHECKBOX THAT WE
[2:07:21] SAY IS DONE AND THAT.
[2:07:22] WE.
[2:07:22] DON'T.
[2:07:22] THINK ABOUT IT AND DON'T, YOU.
[2:07:23] KNOW, DO ANYTHING.
[2:07:24] ABOUT IT UH, EVER.
[2:07:25] AGAIN BUT RATHER THAT IT IS
[2:07:27] WORK THAT WE CONTINUE.
[2:07:28] TO DO.
[2:07:30] UM UH AND UH IT'S YOU KNOW,
[2:07:33] JUST PART OF UM, WHAT WE'RE
[2:07:35] SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
[2:07:38] SO, UM.
[2:07:40] MAYOR WU UM.
[2:07:42] SORT OF ACTIVATED UM, THE
[2:07:44] TRACKING OF THIS WORK IN
[2:07:47] JANUARY 2022, UM, THE REPORTING
[2:07:50] OF THE IMPLEMENTATION ONCE WE
[2:07:51] SORT OF FIGURE OUT FIGURED OUT
[2:07:53] EXCUSE ME, ALL OF THE, UM,
[2:07:55] LOGISTICS.
[2:07:56] OF IT.
[2:07:56] BEGAN IN OCTOBER 2023.
[2:07:59] UM, AS OF UM JULY UH, 49%
[2:08:06] OF THE ACTUAL 108 ACTION ITEMS
[2:08:08] ARE IN SUSTAINING STATUS.
[2:08:11] UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, UM,
[2:08:13] THERE IS NO PERFECT MEASURE
[2:08:15] ACROSS ALL 108 ITEMS TO SAY
[2:08:18] THAT SOMETHING IS EVEN FITTING,
[2:08:20] YOU KNOW, SORT OF THIS
[2:08:21] FRAMEWORK UM, SOME ACTION ITEMS
[2:08:23] REQUIRE A LOT MORE.
[2:08:24] RESOURCES THAN OTHERS.
[2:08:26] UM, AS I MENTIONED SOME ITEMS
[2:08:28] HAVE SUBTASKS SO IF THERE ARE,
[2:08:30] YOU KNOW, FIVE SUBTASKS AND ONE
[2:08:33] OF THEM HAS NOT HIT SUSTAINING
[2:08:35] WE'RE NOT CONSIDERING THAT
[2:08:36] SUSTAINING YET RIGHT.
[2:08:38] UM AND FURTHER SOME ITEMS ARE
[2:08:39] STRUCTURED OR ASSIGNED IN WAYS
[2:08:41] THAT UM ARE CHALLENGING TO
[2:08:44] IMPLEMENT AND UM.
[2:08:46] SO WE.
[2:08:47] UM HAVE BEEN PRIORITIZING.
[2:08:48] SORT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN
[2:08:49] PRIORITY PRIORITIES EXCUSE.
[2:08:52] ME.
[2:08:52] FOR THE MANAGED COMMITTEE AND
[2:08:53] FOR THE REPORTING AGENCIES.
[2:08:54] UH.
[2:08:55] FIRST UM SO WITH THIS IN MIND.
[2:08:57] WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW
[2:08:58] OF THE GOALS UH, AND THE ACTION
[2:09:00] ITEMS UM, AND THE PROGRESS MADE
[2:09:02] .
[2:09:03] UM AND THEN AFTER THAT, UM,
[2:09:05] I'LL, UH, PASS IT BACK TO
[2:09:07] DWAYNE TO UM, SHARE UH, OTHER.
[2:09:10] WORK THAT THE OFFICE FOR
[2:09:12] HOUSING EQUITY IS DOING TO
[2:09:14] AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHER FAIR
[2:09:15] HOUSING.
[2:09:16] BECAUSE OF COURSE THE PRINCIPAL
[2:09:18] IS.
[2:09:18] A LARGE PART ACCOMPLISHED BY
[2:09:20] THIS ASSESSMENT AND IT'S ACTION
[2:09:22] ITEMS BUT NOT EXCLUSIVELY SO.
[2:09:27] SO THE FIRST GOAL IS.
[2:09:29] UH, FOCUSED ON HOUSING ACCESS.
[2:09:31] FOR UH PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES
[2:09:33] AND OLDER ADULTS.
[2:09:34] UM, WE KNOW THAT UM THEY HAVE
[2:09:37] UM.
[2:09:37] A PARTICULARLY STRONG NEED FOR
[2:09:39] PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE.
[2:09:40] HOUSING UM AND OFTEN HAVE UH
[2:09:43] LOWER INCOMES UM, UNDER THE
[2:09:46] HOUSING BOSTON 2030 PLAN, UM.
[2:09:49] THERE WAS A DISABILITY.
[2:09:51] HOUSING TASK FORCE FORMED AND
[2:09:53] UM SO THEY UM.
[2:09:55] ALSO GAVE INPUT UH IN ADDITION
[2:09:56] ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT UH,
[2:09:58] FOR THIS ACTION ITEM SOME UH
[2:10:00] EXCUSE ME FOR THIS GOAL UH,
[2:10:02] SOME OF THE ACTION ITEMS UH,
[2:10:04] ARE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT.
[2:10:05] FOR PEOPLE WITH
[2:10:06] DISABILITIES.
[2:10:07] WHO ARE EXPERIENCING CHRONIC
[2:10:08] HOMELESSNESS, UH, AND OR
[2:10:10] SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.
[2:10:11] EXPLORE THE USE OF UNIVERSAL.
[2:10:12] DESIGN, UH, IN HOUSING
[2:10:14] DEVELOPMENTS THAT THE CITY.
[2:10:15] FUNDS AND SUPPORTING COMMUNITY
[2:10:17] BASED AGE FRIENDLY ALTERNATIVE
[2:10:19] HOUSING OPTIONS.
[2:10:20] UM SO THE.
[2:10:21] WAY THAT.
[2:10:22] THESE UH ACTIONS ITEMS HAVE
[2:10:24] BEEN MET ARE UM UH OUTLINED IN
[2:10:28] BOSTON'S WAY HOME.
[2:10:30] 2026, WHICH.
[2:10:31] IS THE ACTION PLAN TO END
[2:10:32] INDIVIDUAL HOMELESSNESS.
[2:10:33] UM, AND UH THE.
[2:10:35] UNIVERSAL DESIGN.
[2:10:36] ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS HAVE
[2:10:38] BEEN INCORPORATED NOW INTO THE
[2:10:40] MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING
[2:10:41] DESIGN STANDARDS.
[2:10:42] UM, OUT OF UH COLLABORATION
[2:10:45] WITH THE EIGHT STRONG
[2:10:47] COMMISSION AND THE.
[2:10:47] DISABILITIES COMMISSION.
[2:10:59] NEXT WE.
[2:11:00] WANT.
[2:11:00] TO.
[2:11:00] HIGHLIGHT GOAL NUMBER TWO.
[2:11:01] DON'T WORRY I'M NOT GOING TO GO
[2:11:02] THROUGH EVERY.
[2:11:02] SINGLE GOAL.
[2:11:04] UM THIS ONE IS FOCUSED.
[2:11:05] ON REDUCING.
[2:11:06] PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.
[2:11:07] UM, SO UM I CAN LEAVE IT UH FOR
[2:11:10] FOLKS UH, TO.
[2:11:11] SEE ON THE SCREEN THE.
[2:11:13] UH, DISPARITIES UH BY UH UM BY
[2:11:17] RACE.
[2:11:17] AND.
[2:11:18] ETHNICITY.
[2:11:18] UH, AS IT COMES TO
[2:11:19] HOMELESSNESS.
[2:11:20] UM, AND THERE'S UH ACTION ITEMS
[2:11:22] THAT ARE.
[2:11:22] PARTICULARLY FOCUSED.
[2:11:23] ON THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY
[2:11:25] AS WELL AS UM, UH, ACCESS TO
[2:11:29] COUNCILOR AND HOUSING AND
[2:11:30] DISTRICT COURTS.
[2:11:31] UM AND SO UM IN TERMS.
[2:11:34] OF RECENT.
[2:11:34] UPDATES, UM, THERE IS A UH A
[2:11:38] MAJOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE
[2:11:40] BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY AND UM
[2:11:42] THE BOSTON PUBLIC.
[2:11:43] SCHOOLS.
[2:11:44] UM, IN A PROGRAM CALLED THE
[2:11:46] FAMILY LED.
[2:11:47] STABILITY INITIATIVE.
[2:11:48] UM, THIS UH HOUSES FAMILIES
[2:11:51] WITH STUDENTS WHO ATTEND AND
[2:11:52] ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
[2:11:54] IT STARTED IN 2020 UH WITH UM
[2:11:58] BOSTON'S HIGHER GROUND.
[2:11:59] UM SO SHOUT OUT TO HIGHER
[2:12:00] GROUND HERE UM AND HAS
[2:12:02] SUPPORTED OVER 1000 FAMILIES UH
[2:12:04] AT THIS POINT MORE THAN THAT
[2:12:05] ACTUALLY.
[2:12:07] UM SO UH IT IT SHOWS HOW THE
[2:12:10] CITY OF BOSTON CAN DO A
[2:12:12] INTERAGENCY PARTNERSHIP, UH.
[2:12:14] AS WELL AS AN EXTERNAL
[2:12:15] PARTNERSHIP TO MAKE THIS
[2:12:16] HAPPEN.
[2:12:16] UM, THERE'S ANOTHER PARTNERSHIP
[2:12:18] WITH THE BOSTON PUBLIC.
[2:12:20] HEALTH COMMISSION.
[2:12:20] UH, FOR HEALTHY START AND
[2:12:22] HOUSING.
[2:12:22] UH.
[2:12:22] SO THAT'S.
[2:12:23] BETWEEN BPD AND VHA.
[2:12:25] AS WELL AS UH, ONE WITH THE
[2:12:27] STATE CALLED LEADING THE WAY
[2:12:28] HOME.
[2:12:30] UM.
[2:12:31] MORE RECENTLY IN.
[2:12:32] AUGUST UM UH UH AS A AS A DRAFT
[2:12:36] FOR PUBLIC COMMENT THE MAYOR'S
[2:12:38] OFFICE OF HOUSING IS UM, UH,
[2:12:40] SORT OF PREVIEWING AND
[2:12:42] PREPARING THE RELEASE OF THE.
[2:12:43] FINAL RESIDENTIAL EVICTION
[2:12:45] PREVENTION ACTION PLAN.
[2:12:46] SO THAT'S GOING TO BE HAPPENING
[2:12:47] IN THE COMING WEEKS.
[2:12:48] THAT'S A CITYWIDE EFFORT TO.
[2:12:49] REACH PEOPLE EARLIER.
[2:12:51] BEFORE A COURT CASE.
[2:12:53] UH, HAPPENS AND TO WORK WITH
[2:12:54] TENANTS, LANDLORDS AND
[2:12:55] COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO.
[2:12:56] KEEP OUR RESIDENTS HOUSED.
[2:13:01] SKIPPING TO UH GOAL NUMBER FOUR
[2:13:04] UH EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE FOR
[2:13:05] VOUCHER HOLDERS.
[2:13:07] SO UM YOU'VE.
[2:13:07] HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTARY ABOUT
[2:13:09] UM VOUCHER HOLDERS.
[2:13:10] SO THIS IS.
[2:13:12] UH UM.
[2:13:13] YOU KNOW, A.
[2:13:14] LOT OF THE ACTION ITEMS ARE LED
[2:13:15] BY THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY
[2:13:16] .
[2:13:17] SO I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT.
[2:13:17] THE ECHO MOBILITY.
[2:13:19] PROGRAM UM, WHICH UH IS STANDS
[2:13:22] FOR EXPANDED.
[2:13:24] UM EXCUSE ME.
[2:13:25] IT UH.
[2:13:27] IT HELPED FAMILIES GO TO
[2:13:29] EXPANDED CHOICE COMMUNITIES.
[2:13:32] UM AND SO THAT HELPS FAMILIES
[2:13:33] MOVE IN THE.
[2:13:34] SUMMER UM, PROVIDES UH,
[2:13:36] WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
[2:13:37] UM, SO.
[2:13:38] THAT HELPS UH, FAMILIES, YOU
[2:13:40] KNOW, NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT
[2:13:42] UH, CHANGING UH.
[2:13:43] SCHOOLS FOR THEIR.
[2:13:44] CHILDREN UM, MID-YEAR, UM,
[2:13:46] THERE WERE UH, 100 NEW UH,
[2:13:48] APPLICANTS.
[2:13:49] SEEKING ASSISTANCE.
[2:13:50] DURING LAST SUMMER.
[2:13:51] UM, AND SO THEY ALSO DO UM, YOU
[2:13:54] KNOW, AS PART OF THE WRAPAROUND
[2:13:55] WORK THEY.
[2:13:55] THEY DO.
[2:13:56] UH.
[2:13:57] POST MOVE.
[2:13:57] SUPPORT.
[2:13:58] UH, HOME VISITS.
[2:14:00] UM AND THEY ALSO.
[2:14:01] MAKE THESE.
[2:14:01] UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ADVANCED
[2:14:03] CONNECTIONS UH, WITH FAMILIES
[2:14:05] SO THAT THEY HAVE AN
[2:14:06] UNDERSTANDING OF UM, WHAT SORT
[2:14:09] OF NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES.
[2:14:10] LOOK LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE
[2:14:11] SCHOOLS.
[2:14:11] OFFER AND YOU KNOW, PARK SPACE
[2:14:14] ETC. UM, IN TERMS OF UH,
[2:14:17] REVIEWING ADMISSIONS, OCCUPANCY
[2:14:18] AND.
[2:14:19] OUTREACH POLICIES FOR.
[2:14:20] VHA.
[2:14:22] UM THE OCCUPANCY RATE.
[2:14:24] IS UM.
[2:14:25] CURRENTLY ABOUT 97%.
[2:14:28] UM IT IS UH.
[2:14:30] LOOKING TO USE INTERNAL
[2:14:33] RESOURCES TO RESTRUCTURE ITS
[2:14:34] WAITLIST.
[2:14:35] SO INTERNAL UM COMPUTER.
[2:14:36] SOFTWARE RESOURCES.
[2:14:39] UM THEY ARE UM SETTING UP
[2:14:43] REGULAR AND AUTOMATED NOTICES
[2:14:44] TO UPDATE APPLICANTS ABOUT
[2:14:45] THEIR.
[2:14:45] WAITLIST STATUS.
[2:14:47] UM AND IT'S ALSO SENT BY MAIL
[2:14:49] QUARTERLY.
[2:14:49] UM, SO IT'S HELPING UH IT'S A
[2:14:52] IT'S AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE SURE
[2:14:53] THAT FOLKS WHO ARE UH WAITING
[2:14:55] UM, ARE.
[2:14:56] JUST SORT.
[2:14:57] OF CLEARLY COMMUNICATED WITH
[2:14:58] HAVE REGULAR UPDATES.
[2:15:00] ABOUT UM WHERE THEIR
[2:15:02] APPLICATIONS ARE AT.
[2:15:03] UM.
[2:15:08] AND ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE UH HAS
[2:15:10] SHOWN THAT UM THERE HAS BEEN
[2:15:13] UM.
[2:15:14] SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS AT
[2:15:15] LEAST ON THE PROJECT BASED
[2:15:17] VOUCHER SIDE OF THE WAITLIST.
[2:15:19] UM AND EMPLOYEES AT THE BOSTON
[2:15:21] HOUSING AUTHORITY HAVE REPORTED
[2:15:23] THAT UM.
[2:15:25] IT IS UM.
[2:15:27] UH.
[2:15:28] YOU KNOW.
[2:15:29] EASIER AND MORE SMOOTH TO
[2:15:31] ENGAGE.
[2:15:31] WITH APPLICANTS BECAUSE THERE'S
[2:15:33] ALSO.
[2:15:33] UH, YOU.
[2:15:34] KNOW.
[2:15:34] YOU KNOW.
[2:15:35] THE ISSUE OF MAKING SURE
[2:15:36] THAT.
[2:15:36] APPLICANTS ARE.
[2:15:37] AWARE THAT THEY'VE GONE.
[2:15:37] OFF THE WAITLIST AND THEN
[2:15:39] QUICKLY.
[2:15:39] MOVE IN AND AND UM.
[2:15:40] UH AND RECEIVE UM SERVICES FROM
[2:15:43] BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY.
[2:15:47] UM GOAL NUMBER SEVEN UM WHICH
[2:15:49] WE'VE TALKED ABOUT UH QUITE A
[2:15:51] BIT UM, SO UM THAT IS USING
[2:15:55] ZONING AS A FAIR HOUSING TOOL.
[2:15:57] UH, WE KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A
[2:15:59] LOT OF.
[2:15:59] UH.
[2:16:00] EXCLUSIONARY ZONING.
[2:16:01] UH, AND WE ARE UH AND HAVE BEEN
[2:16:04] WORKING TOWARDS UM, GETTING
[2:16:07] INCLUSIONARY ZONING.
[2:16:08] UM.
[2:16:09] THERE WAS.
[2:16:10] THE FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENT TO
[2:16:12] THE BOSTON ZONING CODE.
[2:16:13] UH, A FEW.
[2:16:14] YEARS AGO.
[2:16:14] AND SO, UM, WE CAN UM, YOU
[2:16:19] KNOW, UM.
[2:16:20] TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW
[2:16:23] EXCUSE ME ABOUT HOW WE HAVE,
[2:16:27] YOU KNOW, QUITE A FEW ACTIONS
[2:16:28] RELATED TO THE PLANNING
[2:16:30] DEPARTMENT.
[2:16:30] UM, CONNECTS WITH THIS GOAL.
[2:16:34] UM, SO.
[2:16:35] UH, WE YOU.
[2:16:36] KNOW, IN THE PREVIOUS PANEL,
[2:16:37] UM, SOMEBODY UH, ADDRESSED.
[2:16:40] UH.
[2:16:41] THE AFFIRMATIVELY FURTHERING
[2:16:42] FAIR HOUSING ZONING
[2:16:43] SELF-ASSESSMENT, UM, AND HOW
[2:16:45] THAT IS UH, WORKING OUT UM.
[2:16:48] THOSE SUBMISSIONS.
[2:16:50] BY DEVELOPERS ARE REVIEWED BY.
[2:16:53] 50 UH, SO GIFT STANDS FOR THE
[2:16:55] BOSTON INTERAGENCY FAIR HOUSING
[2:16:57] DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE.
[2:16:58] UM, THAT IS.
[2:17:00] A COMMITTEE.
[2:17:01] UH, OF.
[2:17:02] REPRESENTATIVES FROM UH.
[2:17:04] FIVE KEY.
[2:17:05] CITY DEPARTMENTS.
[2:17:07] UM, TO UM.
[2:17:09] DISCUSS THE FAIR.
[2:17:11] HOUSING.
[2:17:11] IMPLICATIONS OF EACH.
[2:17:13] ARTICLE 80 DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED
[2:17:14] .
[2:17:15] UM THE AGENCIES ARE UM CORRECT
[2:17:18] ME HELP ME OUT IF I GET THIS
[2:17:20] WRONG UH, BOSTON HOUSING
[2:17:21] AUTHORITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT,
[2:17:22] MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING.
[2:17:23] THE DISABILITIES.
[2:17:24] COMMISSION AND THE OFFICE
[2:17:26] OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY.
[2:17:27] SO.
[2:17:28] UM, EVERY TIME THERE'S A
[2:17:30] PROPOSAL.
[2:17:30] TO BE REVIEWED.
[2:17:31] UM, THERE IS A UM.
[2:17:34] CITY EMPLOYEE.
[2:17:36] WHO.
[2:17:37] CONVENES THOSE FIVE.
[2:17:38] REPRESENTATIVES THEY DISCUSS AT
[2:17:39] LENGTH.
[2:17:40] THEY CONSIDER WHAT HAS.
[2:17:41] BEEN SUBMITTED.
[2:17:42] UH, AND THEY MAKE
[2:17:43] RECOMMENDATIONS UM, AS TO UH,
[2:17:45] HOW TO ADVANCE FAIR HOUSING,
[2:17:47] UH, FOR UH EACH DEVELOPMENT.
[2:17:54] UM, AS I'M SURE THE COUNCIL.
[2:17:56] IS ALSO WELL AWARE, THE.
[2:17:58] CITY'S DOING A LOT OF.
[2:17:59] UPDATES TO.
[2:18:00] ZONING OVERALL.
[2:18:01] AND SO UM.
[2:18:03] I THINK THE.
[2:18:05] UH THE THE.
[2:18:06] THREAD HERE IS THAT UM THERE IS
[2:18:11] UH, EFFORT.
[2:18:13] TO UM, INCORPORATE FAIR HOUSING
[2:18:15] .
[2:18:15] PRINCIPLES INTO THIS WORK.
[2:18:18] SO FOR.
[2:18:18] EXAMPLE WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD
[2:18:19] HOUSING.
[2:18:20] ZONING UH INITIATIVE UM.
[2:18:22] YOU KNOW.
[2:18:22] IT'S IT'S TRYING TO HELP REMOVE
[2:18:24] BARRIERS FOR.
[2:18:25] SMALL PROJECTS.
[2:18:26] FOR UH.
[2:18:27] INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS.
[2:18:29] UM, SO.
[2:18:31] UM THAT.
[2:18:33] IS UM.
[2:18:33] SORT.
[2:18:34] OF WOVEN.
[2:18:35] IN UM AND.
[2:18:37] UH THE UH OFFICE OF FAIR
[2:18:38] HOUSING AND EQUITY.
[2:18:40] UM ALSO IS UH PLAYING A.
[2:18:42] ROLE IN WEIGHING IN ON UH
[2:18:45] ARTICLE.
[2:18:45] 80.
[2:18:46] UH MODERNIZATION.
[2:18:51] SO UH, GOAL.
[2:18:52] 11 IS.
[2:18:52] UH.
[2:18:53] SUPPORTING RESIDENTS.
[2:18:54] FACING DISPLACEMENT.
[2:18:56] UM, THERE IS UM.
[2:18:59] THE TWO.
[2:19:00] THINGS I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT IS.
[2:19:01] FIRST A.
[2:19:02] PARTICULAR PROGRAM WHICH IS
[2:19:03] LOTTERY PREFERENCE OR A
[2:19:04] PARTICULAR.
[2:19:04] POLICY EXCUSE ME LOTTERY
[2:19:05] PREFERENCE.
[2:19:06] FOR INCOME.
[2:19:07] RESTRICTED HOUSING.
[2:19:08] UH HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED FOR
[2:19:09] DIRECTLY.
[2:19:09] DISPLACED AND SEVERELY.
[2:19:10] RENT BURDENED.
[2:19:11] HOUSEHOLDS.
[2:19:13] AND UM.
[2:19:15] THE OTHER THING I WANT TO
[2:19:16] HIGHLIGHT IS.
[2:19:17] THE CITY'S ANTI.
[2:19:18] DISPLACEMENT ACTION PLAN A
[2:19:19] PLACE TO THRIVE AND HOW IT.
[2:19:21] ADDRESSES THIS GOAL.
[2:19:22] UM THE YEAR ONE PROJECT.
[2:19:24] SUPPORT WAS.
[2:19:24] JUST RELEASED.
[2:19:25] UH AND I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT
[2:19:27] UH, THREE OF UH THE NOTABLE
[2:19:30] ITEMS UH IN WHICH.
[2:19:31] CITIES MADE PROGRESS.
[2:19:32] THE FIRST IS.
[2:19:32] ACCESS TO COUNCILOR FOR
[2:19:34] FAMILIES.
[2:19:35] SO THIS IS, UH, LEGAL
[2:19:36] COUNCILOR.
[2:19:37] UH, FOR FAMILIES.
[2:19:38] UM.
[2:19:39] UH, FACING EVICTION.
[2:19:42] UM, THE NEXT IS THE.
[2:19:44] SHORE UP.
[2:19:45] PILOT THAT STANDS FOR.
[2:19:46] STABILIZING HOUSING.
[2:19:48] FOR OUR.
[2:19:48] RESIDENT ELDERS UNDER
[2:19:49] PRESSURE.
[2:19:50] SO I WAS A PILOT.
[2:19:51] PROGRAM, UM, FOR TARGETED
[2:19:53] SHORT.
[2:19:54] TERM SUBSIDIES TO.
[2:19:55] PROTECT LOW INCOME OLDER
[2:19:56] ADULTS.
[2:19:56] FROM EVICTION.
[2:19:57] WHILE.
[2:19:57] THEY WERE.
[2:19:58] PLACEMENT IN PERMANENTLY
[2:19:59] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:19:59] SO IT'S, UH IT'S.
[2:20:00] A STOPGAP MEASURE.
[2:20:02] UM, YOU KNOW, THAT HAS A LONG
[2:20:04] TERM SOLUTION.
[2:20:05] UH, AT THE END OF IT.
[2:20:07] UM, SO THE BOSTON HOUSING
[2:20:09] AUTHORITY, UM, HAS OVERSIGHT
[2:20:10] OVER THAT.
[2:20:10] THERE'S A MONTHLY.
[2:20:11] WORKING GROUP.
[2:20:12] UM, WITH THE UH OFFICE OF.
[2:20:14] HOUSING STABILITY.
[2:20:15] WITHIN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[2:20:16] OF HOUSING, THE BOSTON HOUSING
[2:20:17] AUTHORITY AND ITS STRONG
[2:20:19] COMMISSION.
[2:20:20] AND THE LAST THING IS THE
[2:20:21] CONDOMINIUM AND COOPERATIVE
[2:20:23] CONVERSION.
[2:20:23] ORDINANCE.
[2:20:24] UM, THAT IS BEING.
[2:20:26] PROPOSED.
[2:20:26] UH, RIGHT NOW.
[2:20:27] AND SO, UM AND I KNOW THAT UM
[2:20:31] THAT.
[2:20:31] IS THERE'S CONVERSATIONS.
[2:20:33] WITH UH, THE COUNCIL ON THAT
[2:20:35] FOR.
[2:20:35] KEY.
[2:20:35] CHANGES THAT WILL EXPAND AND
[2:20:38] STRENGTHEN TENANT PROTECTIONS
[2:20:40] AND IMPROVE COMPLIANCE.
[2:20:44] LASTLY, FOR ME, I JUST WANTED
[2:20:46] TO UH, HIGHLIGHT UH, TWO OTHER
[2:20:48] ACTION ITEMS THAT FALL.
[2:20:49] UNDER OTHER GOALS.
[2:20:50] UH, THE FIRST IS.
[2:20:51] INCREASING THE SUPPLY.
[2:20:52] OF INCOME RESTRICTED
[2:20:53] HOMEOWNERSHIP PROPERTIES UM.
[2:20:56] THROUGH WELCOME.
[2:20:56] HOME BOSTON.
[2:20:57] UM, THERE'S UM.
[2:20:59] CONSTRUCTION NEARLY COMPLETED.
[2:21:01] WITH UNITS UH.
[2:21:03] IS BEING MADE AVAILABLE.
[2:21:04] STARTING THIS FALL.
[2:21:05] FOR PHASE ONE, PHASE.
[2:21:07] TWO 4 TO 6 TEAMS.
[2:21:08] ARE UH ARE UM DOING
[2:21:11] CONSTRUCTION FINANCING
[2:21:13] CLOSINGS.
[2:21:13] FOR THE OTHER.
[2:21:14] TWO TEAMS ARE EXPECTED THIS.
[2:21:15] WEEK UH AND FOR PHASE THREE UM
[2:21:17] SEVEN.
[2:21:18] DEVELOPMENT TEAMS HAVE BEEN
[2:21:19] SELECTED.
[2:21:19] THEY'RE ALL CURRENTLY DOING DUE
[2:21:21] DILIGENCE.
[2:21:22] UH AND THE PROJECT IS CLOSING.
[2:21:23] IN FALL 2027.
[2:21:26] THE OTHER ACTION ITEM UM IS
[2:21:28] ENSURING THAT.
[2:21:28] CITY DEPARTMENTS COLLECTING THE
[2:21:30] DATA NECESSARY TO EVALUATE
[2:21:32] THEIR WORK.
[2:21:34] UM, TWO MAJOR ITEMS THAT WE'RE
[2:21:36] DOING UM, TO MOVE THAT FORWARD
[2:21:39] IS UM UH A PRE-APPLICATION ON
[2:21:43] HOUSING GOT BOSTON GOV THAT IS
[2:21:45] A CONSOLIDATED HOUSING
[2:21:47] APPLICATION UM AND THAT WILL
[2:21:48] HELP US HAVE DEMOGRAPHIC
[2:21:50] INFORMATION UM ON HOUSING
[2:21:52] APPLICANTS AND THE NEXT PIECE
[2:21:53] IS SORT OF A PLANNING PIECE
[2:21:55] THAT UH LAYS THE FOUNDATION SO
[2:21:57] THAT WE CAN UM, TRACK THE
[2:21:59] CONSTITUENT JOURNEY FROM THE
[2:22:01] LOTTERY TO THE LEASE AND THE
[2:22:03] OCCUPANCY.
[2:22:05] AND I'LL HAND IT OVER TO MY
[2:22:07] COLLEAGUE DWAYNE.
[2:22:09] THANKS.
[2:22:10] SO SO.
[2:22:12] F EIGHT FH.
[2:22:13] BEYOND THE FH.
[2:22:15] OUTREACH AND EDUCATION.
[2:22:16] UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
[2:22:18] WE DO IN OUR SHOP IS THAT WE
[2:22:20] PROVIDE OUTREACH.
[2:22:21] AND EDUCATION TO.
[2:22:23] DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN
[2:22:25] THE COMMUNITY.
[2:22:26] SPECIFICALLY RESIDENTS IN THIS
[2:22:28] PARTICULAR CASE.
[2:22:28] SO FOR THE COMMUNITY SIDE, UM,
[2:22:31] WE TOOK A STEP BACK LAST YEAR
[2:22:32] LAST FISCAL YEAR AND SORT
[2:22:34] OF CHANGED THE WAY THAT WE DID
[2:22:36] COMMUNITY OUTREACH.
[2:22:37] AND EDUCATION.
[2:22:38] UH, WE PARTNERED UP WITH OUR
[2:22:40] ADMIN TEAM.
[2:22:41] UM, SHOUT.
[2:22:42] OUT TO RASHAD MORRISON AND
[2:22:44] SUSAN MCCULLEN.
[2:22:45] WHO HELPED US PUT TOGETHER.
[2:22:47] UM, AN ACTION.
[2:22:48] PLAN UM, BUT AN ENGAGEMENT PLAN
[2:22:51] THAT THAT UM THAT UH THAT UH,
[2:22:55] PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
[2:22:57] RIGHT.
[2:22:57] SO WE WENT OUT AND HIRED A UH
[2:22:59] AN EVENT PLANNER AND WE LOOKED
[2:23:01] AT THE MOST ACTIVE TIME FRAMES
[2:23:03] UM, WITHIN.
[2:23:04] A.
[2:23:04] YEAR WHICH FOR US IS GENERALLY
[2:23:05] RUNNING FROM MARCH UNTIL THE
[2:23:07] END OF JUNE.
[2:23:08] UM, SO WE CONTRACTED WITH THE
[2:23:09] EVENT PLANNER AND AND.
[2:23:11] AND BECAUSE OF THAT WORK
[2:23:12] BECAUSE OF THAT COLLABORATION,
[2:23:14] BECAUSE.
[2:23:15] OF UM THE EFFORTS OF THE STAFF
[2:23:16] WITHIN THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[2:23:18] HOUSING AND EQUITY IN A ENOUGH
[2:23:20] UM WE HAD QUADRUPLED.
[2:23:22] THE THE 26.
[2:23:23] OUTREACH GOAL.
[2:23:25] OF 8000.
[2:23:25] CONSTITUENTS REACHED AND.
[2:23:28] UM AND THEN IN FY 27 OUR.
[2:23:30] OUTREACH EDUCATION STRATEGY
[2:23:31] WORK.
[2:23:33] WE WORK WITH ORGANIZATIONS THAT
[2:23:33] ALREADY HAVE COMMUNITY TRUST.
[2:23:35] SO ONE OF THE BARRIERS THAT WE
[2:23:36] HAVE AS A AS A DEPARTMENT IS
[2:23:39] ONE THAT PEOPLE DON'T PEOPLE
[2:23:40] DON'T KNOW US INTO.
[2:23:42] ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE
[2:23:44] HAVE IS THAT UM, THEY DON'T
[2:23:45] TRUST US.
[2:23:47] UM, AND AND WE'VE HAD TO SORT
[2:23:49] OF RELY HEAVILY ON ON
[2:23:51] STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE.
[2:23:52] THAT TRUST WITH THE.
[2:23:54] CONSTITUENTS THAT WE WANT TO
[2:23:55] SERVE.
[2:23:56] SO WE PUT TOGETHER A PROGRAM
[2:23:57] AND WE WERE ABLE.
[2:23:58] TO IN APRIL WE WERE ABLE TO.
[2:24:01] UM INTO INTO A COLLABORATION
[2:24:03] WITH FINANCIAL EDUCATION
[2:24:04] ASSOCIATES, WHICH IS.
[2:24:05] THE MAIN HOMEBUYER EDUCATION
[2:24:06] PROVIDER FOR THE FIRST TIME
[2:24:08] HOME BUYING STUFF.
[2:24:09] SO WE.
[2:24:09] TALKED TO FAMILIES ABOUT.
[2:24:10] FAIR HOUSING IN THE AFFORDABLE.
[2:24:13] HOME LOTTERIES.
[2:24:14] HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THEM?
[2:24:15] WHAT DO THEY.
[2:24:15] NEED TO WORK FOR?
[2:24:16] WHAT DOES DISCRIMINATION LOOK
[2:24:17] LIKE?
[2:24:18] IN MAY.
[2:24:20] WE SPONSORED UM A YOUTH
[2:24:22] HOMELESS EVENT UM SYMPOSIUM.
[2:24:24] WHICH ATTRACTED.
[2:24:25] ABOUT 200 YOUTH.
[2:24:27] UH WE TALKED ABOUT.
[2:24:28] WE BROUGHT IN DIFFERENT UM
[2:24:29] HOMELESS PROVIDERS WHO BROUGHT
[2:24:31] .
[2:24:31] IN SOME.
[2:24:31] WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOLKS.
[2:24:32] IT WAS REALLY.
[2:24:34] UM AN IDEA.
[2:24:35] UM, THAT CAME FROM A GOOD
[2:24:37] FRIEND.
[2:24:37] OF MINE, JEANNIE MARTOS.
[2:24:39] UM, WHO IS WHO I USED TO TALK
[2:24:41] TO ALL THE TIME.
[2:24:41] ABOUT YOUTH HOMELESSNESS AND
[2:24:42] WHAT CAN WE DO ABOUT PROVIDING
[2:24:44] SUPPORT TO YOUTH.
[2:24:45] HOMELESS UM TO HOMELESS.
[2:24:47] YOUTH.
[2:24:47] UM IN THAT THAT THAT.
[2:24:49] EVENT WAS ATTENDED UH IN MAINE
[2:24:51] AND.
[2:24:51] WE HAD A REALLY GOOD
[2:24:52] RESPONSE FROM THAT.
[2:24:53] EVENT AND THEN IN JUNE.
[2:24:55] UM, WE PARTICIPATED.
[2:24:56] IN THE JUNETEENTH EVENT UP AT
[2:24:57] FRANKLIN PARK.
[2:24:58] AND IT WAS.
[2:24:58] ABOUT 3000.
[2:24:59] PEOPLE 4000 PEOPLE.
[2:25:00] THAT WE WERE ABLE TO MARKET THE
[2:25:02] OPPORTUNITIES TO PROVIDE.
[2:25:04] WRAPAROUND SERVICES.
[2:25:04] TALK ABOUT.
[2:25:05] I-S-D.
[2:25:06] TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT,
[2:25:07] TALK ABOUT UM, HOUSING
[2:25:09] STABILITY, TALK ABOUT THE RATH.
[2:25:10] PROGRAM.
[2:25:11] BUT GIVE THEM INFORMATION
[2:25:12] NOT NECESSARILY.
[2:25:13] INFORMATION THAT.
[2:25:15] WOULD COME TO OUR SHOP.
[2:25:16] .
[2:25:17] UM, BUT WRAPAROUND SERVICES
[2:25:18] THAT FOLKS HAVE.
[2:25:19] BEEN IN.
[2:25:20] IN IN AND THAT'S DESPERATELY
[2:25:21] NEEDED.
[2:25:21] BECAUSE WHEN FOLKS COME TO OUR
[2:25:23] SHOP.
[2:25:24] UM THEY GENERALLY DON'T COME
[2:25:25] FOR FAIR HOUSING UM VIOLATIONS.
[2:25:27] THEY GENERALLY COME FOR OTHER
[2:25:29] TYPE OF HOUSING VIOLATIONS BUT
[2:25:30] FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE UM THEY.
[2:25:32] JUST WANT THE ASSISTANCE.
[2:25:34] SO WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THEM WITH
[2:25:35] SOME WRAPAROUND SERVICES AND
[2:25:36] CONNECT THEM.
[2:25:37] WITH OTHER.
[2:25:38] AGENCIES THAT CAN THAT CAN
[2:25:40] ASSIST.
[2:25:41] UM AND THEN WHAT WHAT I.
[2:25:43] REALLY ENJOYED DOING LAST YEAR
[2:25:45] WAS WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S.
[2:25:46] OFFICE IN.
[2:25:47] DOING UM THE.
[2:25:49] COFFEE HOURS WHICH WERE
[2:25:50] SCATTERED.
[2:25:50] THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
[2:25:51] UM AND I REALLY.
[2:25:52] LOVED DOING WITH THE STAFF
[2:25:53] WE REALLY LOVE DOING UM THE THE
[2:25:55] COMMUNITY.
[2:25:56] SAFETY UH, VILLAGE VIBES.
[2:25:58] EVENTS THAT WERE SCATTERED.
[2:26:00] THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL
[2:26:00] IN.
[2:26:01] ROSLINDALE AND MATTAPAN.
[2:26:02] AND DORCHESTER.
[2:26:02] AND MADISON PARK.
[2:26:03] HIGH SCHOOL.
[2:26:04] MADISON PARK UM DOWN ON
[2:26:07] RUGGLES.
[2:26:07] UM BUT WE BUT WE BUT WE WENT TO
[2:26:09] WHERE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE.
[2:26:10] UM AND WE TRY.
[2:26:11] TO DEAL WITH THEM BUT WE DID
[2:26:13] DEAL WITH THEM WHERE THEY ARE
[2:26:15] AND WE AND.
[2:26:16] WE.
[2:26:16] AND WE JUST PROVIDE.
[2:26:17] THEM WITH INFORMATION SO THAT
[2:26:18] THEY CAN CONNECT TO SERVICES
[2:26:19] THROUGHOUT THE.
[2:26:20] CITY THROUGHOUT THE CITY.
[2:26:21] UM.
[2:26:22] THE OTHER EFFORTS.
[2:26:24] THAT WE'RE DOING UM, IN IN
[2:26:25] THE PANEL BEFORE IS.
[2:26:26] TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IS
[2:26:28] THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY.
[2:26:29] SPENDING TIME WORKING WITH CITY
[2:26:30] EMPLOYEES TO HELP THEM
[2:26:32] UNDERSTAND.
[2:26:32] WHAT WE DO.
[2:26:34] UM, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS
[2:26:35] THAT FOLKS JUST DON'T.
[2:26:36] UNDERSTAND WHAT WE DO RIGHT?
[2:26:38] AND AND WE HAVE TO.
[2:26:39] BE.
[2:26:39] MORE INTENTIONAL.
[2:26:40] WITH TALKING TO OTHER CITY
[2:26:43] DEPARTMENTS, ESPECIALLY THE
[2:26:44] ONES THAT ARE PART OF THE FH
[2:26:46] WORK.
[2:26:47] UM, TODAY UM.
[2:26:50] UH UH.
[2:26:51] THE E AND I ACADEMY ARE.
[2:26:52] HOSTING THE FIRST COHORT.
[2:26:53] TODAY THAT UM.
[2:26:54] THAT I THAT I.
[2:26:55] AM SUPPOSED TO BE AT BUT I'M
[2:26:56] HERE.
[2:26:57] UM AND WE'RE TALKING.
[2:26:59] TO OTHER.
[2:26:59] CITY DEPARTMENTS ABOUT WHAT WE
[2:27:01] DO, HOW WE DO IT.
[2:27:02] AND WHY THEY NEED TO LEAN ON.
[2:27:04] THE EQUITY INCLUSION CABINET.
[2:27:06] UM, TO HELP.
[2:27:07] THEM SORT OF RESOLVE WHATEVER
[2:27:08] THEIR ISSUES ARE THAT THEY'RE
[2:27:09] FACING WITH.
[2:27:11] SO UM SO WE'RE DOING THAT UM,
[2:27:13] WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CITY
[2:27:15] EMPLOYEES AND THEN WE ALSO.
[2:27:16] IDENTIFY SPECIAL GROUPS AND
[2:27:17] WE'RE.
[2:27:17] VERY INTENTIONAL ON THESE.
[2:27:19] SPECIAL GROUPS.
[2:27:19] WE WE WORK WITH.
[2:27:20] YOUNG SALES.
[2:27:22] REAL ESTATE.
[2:27:23] SALESPERSONS WHO UM WHO ARE
[2:27:25] ENGAGING.
[2:27:26] INTO THE WORK FOR THE.
[2:27:27] FIRST TIME.
[2:27:28] THEY'RE THEY ARE THE
[2:27:29] GATEKEEPERS.
[2:27:30] OF OF.
[2:27:31] OF OF THESE AFFORDABLE
[2:27:33] OPPORTUNITIES ALL THESE HOUSING
[2:27:34] OPPORTUNITIES.
[2:27:34] SO WE MAKE SURE THAT THEY.
[2:27:35] UNDERSTAND UM WHAT'S REQUIRED.
[2:27:38] UM FROM A FAIR.
[2:27:38] HOUSING PERSPECTIVE WE ALSO
[2:27:39] WORK WITH LANDLORDS.
[2:27:40] WE WORK WITH REAL ESTATE
[2:27:41] BROKERS, WE WORK WITH UH
[2:27:43] NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS.
[2:27:45] UM AND WE JUST POP UP AT
[2:27:46] DIFFERENT EVENTS.
[2:27:48] UM ALL.
[2:27:48] THROUGHOUT THE CITY JUST
[2:27:49] SHARING INFORMATION, JUST
[2:27:50] MAKING SURE THAT FOLKS.
[2:27:52] UM, UNDERSTAND UM THEIR RIGHTS
[2:27:55] AND AND AND AND HOW TO FILE
[2:27:57] COMPLAINTS.
[2:28:02] AND THEN LAST SUGGEST.
[2:28:05] UM SO UH JUST WANTED TO ALSO
[2:28:08] SHARE UM, UH A COUPLE TWO BITS
[2:28:10] UH, ABOUT HOW THE UM OFFICE
[2:28:14] OF FAIR HOUSING EQUITY, UH, IS
[2:28:16] INVOLVED IN THE IMPLEMENTATION
[2:28:17] .
[2:28:18] UH.
[2:28:18] SIDE OF AFFIRMATIVELY
[2:28:20] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING.
[2:28:21] SO, UM, UH, WE'VE SPOKEN A
[2:28:24] LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW, UH,
[2:28:26] WORKS, UH, AND HOW IT IS PART
[2:28:29] OF THE A F H ZONING, UM, ASPECT
[2:28:33] OF HOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
[2:28:35] DOES ITS WORK.
[2:28:36] UM, AND SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS
[2:28:38] UM FOR ARTICLE 80 PROJECTS
[2:28:39] WHICH ARE LARGE DEVELOPMENT
[2:28:41] PROJECTS, THEY MUST CHOOSE ONE
[2:28:43] FAIR HOUSING INTERVENTION AND
[2:28:44] ONE MARKETING INTERVENTION.
[2:28:45] AND THEN BEFORE UM, CONSIDERS
[2:28:48] THOSE UH, INTERVENTIONS UH, AND
[2:28:50] JUST ONE KEY METRIC UH, IN
[2:28:53] TERMS OF PROGRESS THAT'S BEEN
[2:28:54] MADE IS UH IMMEDIATELY BEFORE
[2:28:57] THIS WAS.
[2:28:57] IMPLEMENTED.
[2:28:58] UM INCOME RESTRICTED UNITS
[2:29:01] FOR UM 60% MI AND BELOW UH WAS
[2:29:06] AT 4.8% UM IN UH FOR THOSE UH
[2:29:10] THAT SORT OF 5 OR 6 YEAR SPAN
[2:29:12] AND IN THE SUBSEQUENT
[2:29:13] COMPARABLE SPAN IT'S UH RISEN
[2:29:17] TO 18.9%.
[2:29:20] UM THE SECOND PIECE.
[2:29:21] IS THE CITY'S.
[2:29:22] UH ANTI DISPLACEMENT PLAN.
[2:29:24] SO THIS IS UM A UH AN EXAMPLE
[2:29:28] OF HOW HAVING UM THE OFFICE
[2:29:30] OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY
[2:29:32] BEING UM VIEWED NOT JUST AS UH
[2:29:36] AN ENFORCEMENT AGENCY BUT AS A
[2:29:38] PROACTIVE AGENCY THAT.
[2:29:39] DOES THE POLICY WORK.
[2:29:41] UM, IS KEY UM, EARLY ON, UM,
[2:29:45] THE UH THE OFFICE AND THE UH
[2:29:48] PLANNING ADVISORY COUNCIL, UH,
[2:29:50] WORK TOGETHER TO UM, SORT
[2:29:52] OF DEVELOP THE PLAN AND AS A
[2:29:54] RESULT, UH, FAIR HOUSING
[2:29:55] PRINCIPLES ARE FULLY INTEGRATED
[2:29:56] INTO THE PLAN AND UM, THERE ARE
[2:29:59] MORE THAN 25 REFERENCES UH, TO
[2:30:02] FAIR HOUSING, UH, EMBEDDED INTO
[2:30:03] THE PLAN AND THAT DIRECTLY
[2:30:05] LINKS UM, THINGS LIKE THE
[2:30:07] DISPLACEMENT RISK MAP, UM, TO
[2:30:10] THE UH ASSESSMENT OF FAIR
[2:30:12] HOUSING ACTION ITEMS.
[2:30:15] UM.
[2:30:16] SO UH, WITH THAT I JUST WANT TO
[2:30:18] THANK YOU ALL FOR UH FOR YOUR
[2:30:19] TIME AND, UM.
[2:30:21] UM, WE'LL TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.
[2:30:23] THANK YOU.
[2:30:24] UM, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT
[2:30:25] AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK
[2:30:26] YOU DO.
[2:30:28] QUITE HONESTLY THAT IS A LOT
[2:30:29] OF WORK AND VERY GRATEFUL THAT
[2:30:32] THIS OFFICE EXISTS.
[2:30:33] UM, OKAY.
[2:30:35] SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING TO
[2:30:37] MOVE TO QUESTIONS FROM MY
[2:30:38] COLLEAGUES.
[2:30:38] I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM EACH
[2:30:40] FIVE MINUTES AND THEN IF THEY
[2:30:41] HAVE FOLLOW UP I'LL GIVE EXTRA
[2:30:43] TIME AS WELL.
[2:30:44] AND YEAH SO STARTING WITH
[2:30:46] SPONSOR COUNCILOR WORRELL.
[2:30:48] THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU
[2:30:50] FOR.
[2:30:50] BEING HERE AND ALL THE WORK
[2:30:51] THAT YOU DO AROUND FAIR
[2:30:52] HOUSING.
[2:30:52] UM A FEW QUESTIONS AND I KNOW
[2:30:54] I'M UH IT'S PROBABLY ONE OF THE
[2:30:56] QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL CULPEPER
[2:30:57] IS GOING TO ASK, BUT I'M GONNA
[2:30:58] GO AHEAD AND STEAL IT.
[2:30:59] UH, RIGHT NOW THE OFFICE
[2:31:01] DOESN'T HAVE AN EXECUTIVE
[2:31:02] DIRECTOR.
[2:31:02] CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE
[2:31:04] STATUS OF BRINGING SOMEONE ON?
[2:31:08] UM, WE BELIEVE THAT WE'RE CLOSE
[2:31:10] TO HAVING AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[2:31:12] ,UM, BEFORE THE END OF THE
[2:31:13] YEAR.
[2:31:14] UH, IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND,
[2:31:15] UM, WE WANT TO GET IT RIGHT.
[2:31:17] AWESOME.
[2:31:18] AND THEN, UM, THE OTHER
[2:31:21] POSITIONS THAT THE COMMUNITY
[2:31:22] ADVOCATES UH, COMMUNITY PANEL
[2:31:24] HAS, UM, UH, ELEVATED WAS THE
[2:31:26] EDUCATION AND OUTREACH
[2:31:28] COORDINATOR OF PUBLIC POLICY
[2:31:29] AND SPECIAL PROJECTS MANAGER
[2:31:31] TEAM.
[2:31:31] AND THEN I BELIEVE THERE'S
[2:31:33] OTHER ADMINISTRATIVE AND
[2:31:34] FINANCE STAFF.
[2:31:36] IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A FEW
[2:31:37] OPEN POSITIONS INSIDE OF THE
[2:31:38] FAIR HOUSING.
[2:31:39] CAN YOU TALK TO US ABOUT THE
[2:31:40] STATUS OF EACH OF THOSE
[2:31:41] POSITIONS?
[2:31:42] SURE.
[2:31:43] UM, SO UH, THE UH, OUTREACH
[2:31:46] AND EDUCATION ROLE IS VACANT.
[2:31:48] UM, I'LL I'LL PASS IT TO DUANE
[2:31:49] AFTER I GO THROUGH THE OTHER
[2:31:51] ROLES TO UH TO YOU KNOW, GO
[2:31:53] OVER A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
[2:31:54] HOW WE'RE DEALING WITH IT AS WE
[2:31:55] SORT OF HIGHLIGHTED, UM, IN THE
[2:31:57] PRESENTATION, UM, THE PUBLIC
[2:31:59] POLICY AND SPECIAL PROJECTS
[2:32:01] MANAGER ROLE UH, WAS RECENTLY
[2:32:03] VACATED.
[2:32:04] UM, SO WE ARE UH, EXPLORING UM,
[2:32:07] SORT OF THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND
[2:32:09] HOW WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE
[2:32:11] POSITION THAT ROLE PROPERLY, UM
[2:32:13] ,SO THAT IT DOESN'T SORT
[2:32:15] OF STAND ALONE BY ITSELF.
[2:32:17] UM, AND HAS THE ADEQUATE
[2:32:18] SUPPORTS.
[2:32:18] IT NEEDS TO GET IT TO.
[2:32:20] WORK DONE.
[2:32:21] UM, AND THE ADMINISTRATION AND
[2:32:23] FINANCE UH, ROLE UM.
[2:32:27] UH I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO
[2:32:28] CHARACTERIZING IT IS THE UH THE
[2:32:31] ADMINISTRATION FINANCE
[2:32:32] FUNCTIONS OF THE INDIVIDUAL
[2:32:34] DEPARTMENTS IN EQUITY AND
[2:32:35] INCLUSION WHICH ARE ALL, YOU
[2:32:36] KNOW, BY CITY STANDARDS
[2:32:38] RELATIVELY SMALL DEPARTMENTS.
[2:32:39] UH, HAVE BEEN CENTRALIZED.
[2:32:41] UM, UH UH WITHIN THE OFFICE
[2:32:44] OF EQUITY.
[2:32:44] SO UNDER THE CABINET THERE IS
[2:32:46] NOW UH A 4.
[2:32:50] OR.
[2:32:51] 5 PERSON UM ADMINISTRATION AND
[2:32:52] FINANCE TEAM.
[2:32:53] AND SO UH, DUANE ALLUDED TO
[2:32:54] THAT OF HOW TWO MEMBERS OF THAT
[2:32:56] TEAM, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTED UM,
[2:32:58] THE OFFICE'S WORK IN
[2:33:01] ACCOMPLISHING UH MAJOR.
[2:33:01] PROJECT UH, BUT DOING OUR
[2:33:04] CAPACITY TO SPEAK UP.
[2:33:04] THANK YOU OBVIOUSLY FOR THE.
[2:33:07] THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION
[2:33:08] PIECE.
[2:33:09] UM, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHEN
[2:33:11] THAT.
[2:33:11] POSITION IS GOING TO BE FILLED.
[2:33:13] WE HAVE REVIEWED UM.
[2:33:16] THE JOB.
[2:33:17] DESCRIPTION AGAIN TO MAKE.
[2:33:17] SURE THAT UH, IT FITS THE ROLE
[2:33:19] THAT WE WE'D LIKE IT TO FIT.
[2:33:22] UM, RIGHT NOW I'M TAKING OVER.
[2:33:23] THOSE THOSE THOSE
[2:33:25] RESPONSIBILITIES WITH
[2:33:26] ASSISTANCE.
[2:33:26] FROM MY STAFF.
[2:33:27] I'VE GOT FOUR INVESTIGATORS ONE
[2:33:29] INTAKE SPECIALIST UM, WHICH ARE
[2:33:32] ALL DOING, YOU.
[2:33:33] KNOW, AND NOW A DIRECTOR OF.
[2:33:34] INVESTIGATIONS WHICH IS.
[2:33:36] UM AND THEY'RE ALL DOING
[2:33:37] THEY'RE ALL DOING A FABULOUS
[2:33:38] JOB PHENOMENAL JOB WITH.
[2:33:40] UM HELPING RESIDENTS UM, FILE
[2:33:42] COMPLAINTS AND.
[2:33:43] SORT OF WALK THROUGH
[2:33:44] WHATEVER THE HOUSING.
[2:33:44] ISSUES THAT THEY'RE HAVING.
[2:33:46] UM.
[2:33:49] GIVE ME MORE INFORMATION AND
[2:33:50] ANOTHER TIME.
[2:33:50] ABOUT THE OUTREACH PIECE BUT
[2:33:52] BUT IT'S A PIECE THAT WE.
[2:33:55] UM THAT WE'RE WORKING ON UM,
[2:33:57] BUT NOT QUITE SURE WHEN.
[2:33:58] THAT WHEN THAT.
[2:33:59] POSITION IS GOING TO GET
[2:33:59] FILLED.
[2:34:00] HOW MANY VACANT POSITIONS DO WE
[2:34:01] HAVE IN THE.
[2:34:02] DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN
[2:34:04] EXECUTIVE.
[2:34:05] DIRECTOR, THE PROGRAM MANAGER.
[2:34:07] FOR OUTREACH AND EDUCATION
[2:34:08] AND THESE SPECIAL UM SPECIAL
[2:34:11] PROJECTS.
[2:34:12] UM POLICY MANAGER WHICH USED TO
[2:34:14] BE JOYCE.
[2:34:15] SYLVIA GONZALEZ.
[2:34:16] SO ONLY THREE VACANT POSITIONS
[2:34:17] HISTORY.
[2:34:18] ALL RIGHT.
[2:34:18] AND THEN ONE ON ONE WAS VERY
[2:34:19] RECENTLY VACANT.
[2:34:20] YEAH AWESOME.
[2:34:21] AND THEN.
[2:34:21] TWO OUT OF THE THREE JOBS HAVE
[2:34:23] BEEN POSTED AND IT SEEMS LIKE
[2:34:25] ONE OUT OF THREE WE'RE KIND
[2:34:26] OF NEARING FINALIZING WHO'S
[2:34:28] COMING IN.
[2:34:30] YEAH THE.
[2:34:31] AS I MENTIONED UM.
[2:34:33] WE'RE VERY.
[2:34:34] VERY CLOSE.
[2:34:34] WITH UM WITH THE EDDIE.
[2:34:36] UM I DON'T I DON'T RECALL THE
[2:34:39] OUTREACH PROGRAM.
[2:34:41] MANAGER FOR OUTREACH AND
[2:34:42] EDUCATION.
[2:34:42] WE MEAN BEING.
[2:34:42] POSTED IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE
[2:34:44] WORKING ON INTERNALLY.
[2:34:44] OKAY.
[2:34:46] UM AND THEN AND THEN UM.
[2:34:48] JOYCE'S POSITION THE POLICY.
[2:34:51] UM, THE.
[2:34:52] POLICY PERSON IS JUST VACATED
[2:34:53] ABOUT.
[2:34:54] A MONTH.
[2:34:54] YOU HAVE TO GO TWO.
[2:34:55] MONTHS AGO.
[2:34:56] YEAH.
[2:34:56] ALL RIGHT.
[2:34:57] AND THEN I WAS JUST TAKING A
[2:34:57] LOOK AT THE FAIR HOUSING, UH,
[2:34:59] WEBSITE AROUND.
[2:35:01] COMMISSION MEMBERS.
[2:35:02] YEAH.
[2:35:02] AND I SEE THAT THERE'S ONE
[2:35:04] VACANT POSITION.
[2:35:05] UM, ANY REASON WHY THAT
[2:35:08] POSITION IS VACANT?
[2:35:09] I THINK IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE
[2:35:10] FIVE.
[2:35:10] WE HAVE FOUR.
[2:35:13] YEAH.
[2:35:14] THE THE.
[2:35:15] ANOTHER AREA OF IMPROVEMENT IS
[2:35:17] SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE
[2:35:17] WORKING ON AS WELL.
[2:35:18] WE WE WE CONSTANTLY HAVE WHERE
[2:35:21] WE ARE IN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
[2:35:23] IDENTIFYING A NEW COMMISSIONER.
[2:35:25] THERE ARE SOME UM.
[2:35:28] UH NOT.
[2:35:29] CONSTRAINTS BUT THERE ARE SOME.
[2:35:30] REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT
[2:35:32] ELIGIBILITY ELIGIBILITY
[2:35:33] REQUIREMENTS FOR THAT FOR THAT
[2:35:34] SLOT.
[2:35:35] UM IT HASN'T BEEN PRIORITIZED
[2:35:37] LIKE.
[2:35:38] I'D LIKE IT TO BE BUT.
[2:35:39] BUT THE COMMISSIONERS ARE.
[2:35:40] ARE SOMEWHAT CONCERNED ABOUT.
[2:35:42] MAKING SURE.
[2:35:43] THAT WE.
[2:35:44] HAVE THIS FIFTH.
[2:35:45] COMMISSIONER TO MAKE SURE THAT
[2:35:46] WE HAVE QUORUMS.
[2:35:47] AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
[2:35:48] SO SO SO SO IT'S ON.
[2:35:50] THE LIST BUT WE JUST.
[2:35:50] HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T BEND IT OUT
[2:35:51] YET.
[2:35:51] RIGHT.
[2:35:52] AND AND JUST FOR UM
[2:35:55] TRANSPARENCY THAT COMMISSION
[2:35:56] MEMBER IS A SUPPOSED TO BE A
[2:35:58] TENANT CORRECT.
[2:36:00] LIKE THE ELIGIBILITY FOR THAT
[2:36:01] COMMISSION SEAT IS SUPPOSED TO
[2:36:03] BE A RENTER.
[2:36:04] IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEONE
[2:36:05] THAT IS INCOME ELIGIBLE.
[2:36:07] TO LIVE IN.
[2:36:08] IN IN SUBSIDIZED HOUSING.
[2:36:09] GOT IT.
[2:36:10] AND WITHOUT THAT
[2:36:11] REPRESENTATION WE'RE KIND
[2:36:12] OF MISSING THAT VOICE AT THE
[2:36:14] COMMISSION.
[2:36:15] UM CORRECT US.
[2:36:16] ALL RIGHT.
[2:36:17] WELL WELL WE'D LOVE TO YOU
[2:36:19] KNOW, PUT THAT AS A PRIORITY AS
[2:36:21] WELL.
[2:36:21] AND ON TOP OF THE OTHER
[2:36:22] POSITIONS IS TO MAKE SURE THAT
[2:36:23] WE DO HAVE THOSE COMMISSION
[2:36:25] SEATS AND THAT WE HAVE A FULLY
[2:36:27] REPRESENTED COMMISSION.
[2:36:30] UM I KNOW THAT'S MY TIME.
[2:36:32] THANK YOU.
[2:36:33] WELCOME.
[2:36:35] UH.
[2:36:36] COUNCILOR COPE UP.
[2:36:37] AH, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
[2:36:38] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR ONCE AGAIN
[2:36:39] FOR CONDUCTING THIS HEARING AND
[2:36:43] THANK THE ADMINISTRATION.
[2:36:46] UH.
[2:36:47] LEADERS WHO HAVE COME TO.
[2:36:51] AND LIKE.
[2:36:52] NOTHING I THANK THE PUBLIC GOT
[2:36:54] A FEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE FAIR
[2:36:57] HOUSING DIRECTOR.
[2:36:58] TELL ME WHAT CLOSE MEANS
[2:37:00] BECAUSE THIS SUMMER THEY WERE
[2:37:02] CLOSED.
[2:37:02] THEY SAID THEY WOULD HAVE A
[2:37:04] DIRECTOR.
[2:37:05] BY.
[2:37:05] THE END OF.
[2:37:06] THE SUMMER.
[2:37:06] UH, WE'RE IN SEPTEMBER NOW AND
[2:37:09] YOU'RE TELLING ME CLOSE.
[2:37:10] BUT BY THE END OF THE YEAR WHAT
[2:37:13] IS CLOSE TO ME?
[2:37:13] HOW CLOSE ARE WE INTERVIEWING?
[2:37:18] UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT
[2:37:20] WHAT I AM PERMITTED TO SAY
[2:37:22] RELATED TO A PERSONNEL MATTER.
[2:37:24] UM, WELL, THAT IS NOT A
[2:37:26] PERSONNEL MATTER YET, BUT ARE
[2:37:28] WE INTERVIEWING?
[2:37:31] IS THAT WE HAVE.
[2:37:32] COMPLETED INTERVIEWS.
[2:37:34] OKAY.
[2:37:35] AND SO YOU THINK BY DECEMBER
[2:37:38] WE WILL HAVE.
[2:37:38] SOMEONE IN THAT SLOT?
[2:37:41] YES.
[2:37:42] OKAY.
[2:37:44] I WANT TO GO, UH, LOOK AT THE
[2:37:48] 14 GOALS AND 108 ACTS HIMSELF.
[2:37:50] SO YOU'VE GOT FIVE LEVELS, UH,
[2:37:54] OF ASSESSMENT, INFANCY PLANNING
[2:37:56] .
[2:37:57] UM.
[2:38:00] PILOTING.
[2:38:02] SUSTAINING AND EVALUATION.
[2:38:04] UM, EVALUATING I WOULD SAY SO
[2:38:07] IT'S IT'S NOT THAT IT'S IT'S
[2:38:08] THAT MEANS EVALUATION WOULD
[2:38:09] MEAN THAT THE THE THE PILOT'S
[2:38:11] BEEN COMPLETED UH PERHAPS UH
[2:38:13] THE UH THE POLICY OR PROGRAM IS
[2:38:16] IN EFFECT BUT WE, UH, WANT TO
[2:38:19] MAKE SURE THAT IT'S IMPACTFUL
[2:38:22] OR EFFECTIVE OR WHAT HAVE YOU
[2:38:24] DEPENDING ON THE CONTEXT.
[2:38:25] 48% WHERE AT THE SUSTAINING
[2:38:26] LEVEL, CORRECT?
[2:38:28] YEAH.
[2:38:28] WHAT 49% YEAH.
[2:38:29] WHAT'S THE DEFINITION
[2:38:30] OF SUSTAINING UNDER THESE
[2:38:33] CATEGORIES.
[2:38:34] SO THE DEFINITION OF SUSTAINING
[2:38:36] UH WOULD BE THAT THE UH
[2:38:38] SOLUTION IS UH BEING ENACTED
[2:38:41] CONTINUOUSLY THAT UM SORT OF IT
[2:38:45] HAS EVERYTHING IT NEEDS TO BE A
[2:38:46] FULLY FLEDGED UH PROGRAM OR
[2:38:49] SERVICE.
[2:38:49] OR POLICY.
[2:38:50] UH, AND THAT WE HAVE UH
[2:38:53] EVALUATED UM, SORT.
[2:38:54] OF WHETHER IT IT'S WHETHER.
[2:38:56] IT'S IT WAS PILOTED OR OR WAS
[2:38:58] ALREADY LAUNCHED AS A PERMANENT
[2:39:00] PROGRAM.
[2:39:01] UM, WE'VE COMPLETED SORT
[2:39:03] OF INITIAL UH EVALUATION TO TO
[2:39:06] .
[2:39:07] SORT OF.
[2:39:07] IT'S SORT OF LIKE A WHAT.
[2:39:08] MANY WOULD CALL DONE BUT WE
[2:39:09] JUST DON'T WANT TO CALL IT
[2:39:10] DONE.
[2:39:10] I GOT.
[2:39:11] LIMITED TIME SO YES SIR.
[2:39:12] SO LET'S GO TO GOAL ONE UH
[2:39:15] INCREASING HOUSING ACCESS FOR
[2:39:15] PEOPLE WITH DISABILITY AND
[2:39:17] OLDER ADULTS.
[2:39:18] HOW MANY OLDER ADULTS DID YOU
[2:39:21] INCREASE HOUSING FOR OR HOW
[2:39:23] MANY PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES?
[2:39:27] I DON'T I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER
[2:39:28] TO THAT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN.
[2:39:30] CAN YOU.
[2:39:31] GET THE ANSWER?
[2:39:33] I CAN TRY BUT THERE MAY BE
[2:39:34] CONFOUNDING VARIABLES.
[2:39:35] BUT YES.
[2:39:36] LET'S LET'S TRY AND GET THE
[2:39:37] ANSWER OKAY.
[2:39:39] UH HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU ACTUALLY
[2:39:40] HELP WITH HOUSING WHO HAVE
[2:39:44] DISABILITIES AND WHO ARE OLDER
[2:39:47] ADULTS?
[2:39:49] HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE WE HELPED?
[2:39:52] YES I.
[2:39:52] CAN GET YOU I CAN GET YOU.
[2:39:53] WITH ACCESS TO HOUSING.
[2:39:55] YES.
[2:39:56] YES GOT HOUSING ACCESS THAT
[2:39:59] DIDN'T HAVE IT BEFORE THEY CAME
[2:40:01] TO YOU.
[2:40:01] LET'S GO TO NUMBER TWO.
[2:40:03] UM, REDUCE AND PREVENT
[2:40:06] HOMELESSNESS.
[2:40:06] HOW MANY FOLKS DID YOU HELP
[2:40:09] WITH HELP FIND HOMES AND
[2:40:13] PREVENTED HOMELESSNESS?
[2:40:15] I'D HAVE TO I'D HAVE TO LOOK.
[2:40:16] INTO YOU.
[2:40:17] CAN YOU GET THAT FOR US?
[2:40:18] YES, SURE.
[2:40:18] OKAY.
[2:40:19] AND WHAT ABOUT GOAL NUMBER
[2:40:20] THREE?
[2:40:22] YOU DIDN'T MENTION GOAL NUMBER
[2:40:23] THREE YOU SKIPPED OVER GOAL
[2:40:24] NUMBER THREE.
[2:40:25] THAT'S BUILD AND STRENGTHEN
[2:40:27] REASONABLE STRATEGIES TO CREATE
[2:40:29] HOUSING AND FURTHER FAIR
[2:40:30] HOUSING.
[2:40:32] WHAT'S THE STATUS OF GOAL
[2:40:33] NUMBER THREE?
[2:40:34] YOU DIDN'T MENTION IT I THINK
[2:40:36] YOU SKIPPED OVER.
[2:40:38] SURE.
[2:40:39] SO THE THE WAY WE TRACK THE
[2:40:41] WORK IS UH.
[2:40:41] WHAT'S THE STATUS OF IT THOUGH
[2:40:44] YOU GAVE US STATUS ON THESE
[2:40:46] OTHERS WHAT'S THE STATUS
[2:40:47] OF GOAL NUMBER THREE?
[2:40:49] SO LIKE AS I WAS ABOUT TO SAY
[2:40:51] THE WAY WE TRACK IT IS ABIDE BY
[2:40:52] STATUS FOR THE ACTUAL
[2:40:54] INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS.
[2:40:56] ALL RIGHT.
[2:40:56] RIGHT AS AS IS DIVIDED TO
[2:40:58] THE REPORTING AGENCIES.
[2:41:00] SO IF YOU'LL GIVE ME A MOMENT
[2:41:02] UM I CAN SEE WHAT THEIR LATEST
[2:41:04] UPDATES ARE.
[2:41:06] FOR GOAL NUMBER THREE.
[2:41:08] WELL CAN WE COME BACK TO GOAL
[2:41:09] NUMBER THREE BECAUSE MY TIME IS
[2:41:11] I DON'T WANT TO WAIT.
[2:41:11] SURE.
[2:41:12] LET'S GO TO GOAL NUMBER FOUR
[2:41:13] EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE FOR
[2:41:14] VOUCHER HOLDERS.
[2:41:15] HOW MANY VOUCHER HOLDERS DID
[2:41:17] YOU EXPAND HOUSING CHOICE FOR
[2:41:20] UNDER NUMBER FOUR.
[2:41:21] I'LL HAVE.
[2:41:22] TO GET YOU THAT.
[2:41:22] ANSWER OKAY LET'S GO TO NUMBER
[2:41:24] FIVE.
[2:41:25] YOU DIDN'T MENTION NUMBER FIVE
[2:41:26] BUT UNDER FIVE AND SIX I THINK
[2:41:29] YOU WENT RIGHT PAST HIM FIVE IS
[2:41:32] REDEVELOP AND PRESERVE EXISTING
[2:41:33] PUBLIC AND INCOME RESTRICTED
[2:41:35] HOUSING.
[2:41:36] HOW MANY FOLKS WOULD YOU HELP
[2:41:37] ON THE NUMBER FIVE.
[2:41:38] I HAVE TO GIVE YOU THAT ANSWER.
[2:41:40] WHAT'S THE STATUS OF THE
[2:41:41] INFANCY PLANNING, PILOTING,
[2:41:43] EVALUATING AND SUSTAINING?
[2:41:46] SO AS I SAID WE BREAK THEM UP
[2:41:48] INTO INDIVIDUAL ACTION ITEMS SO
[2:41:49] I CAN GIVE YOU YOU KNOW I CAN I
[2:41:51] CAN TELL YOU EACH INDIVIDUAL
[2:41:52] ACTION ITEM UM SO SO FOR
[2:41:55] EXAMPLE 5.15.2 IS SUSTAINING
[2:41:57] 5.1 IS SUSTAINING 5.3
[2:42:00] OF SUSTAINING.
[2:42:00] SO FOR CANNING COUNTY.
[2:42:03] COUNCIL THIS COULD BE OKAY.
[2:42:04] THE LAST QUESTION FOR THIS
[2:42:06] ROUND OKAY LET ME JUST GO TO
[2:42:07] SEVEN REAL QUICK.
[2:42:08] YES USING ZONING AND FAIR
[2:42:10] HOUSING TO GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE
[2:42:11] OF HOW YOU USE ZONING AS A FAIR
[2:42:14] HOUSING TO UNDER NUMBER SEVEN.
[2:42:18] SO UM.
[2:42:21] MY MY ROLE.
[2:42:22] IS TO GET THE.
[2:42:23] REPORTS BUT CAN.
[2:42:24] YOU GIVE ME THE EXAMPLE AN
[2:42:26] EXAMPLE OR NOT IF YOU CAN'T IS
[2:42:28] THAT.
[2:42:28] THAT THAT THERE IS A.
[2:42:30] FAIR HOUSING AMENDMENT THAT
[2:42:31] WAS.
[2:42:32] UH INCORPORATED.
[2:42:33] TO THE CITY'S ZONING CODE?
[2:42:34] WHAT WAS THAT?
[2:42:35] THAT WAS THE UH FHA ZONING THAT
[2:42:39] SORT OF SET.
[2:42:39] UP THE TICK THE BOX NUMBER.
[2:42:41] ONE COUNCILOR CULPEPER IF WE
[2:42:43] COULD HAVE A WAIVER QUESTION
[2:42:44] FOR THE NEXT ROUND, COME BACK
[2:42:45] THEN COME BACK.
[2:42:46] THANK YOU.
[2:42:47] I DON'T WANT TO DISRESPECT OH,
[2:42:49] I KNOW WE JUST HAVE WE HAVE
[2:42:50] SOME QUESTIONS.
[2:42:51] YOU GOT TO PUT COLLEGE
[2:42:52] COUNCIL FROM HERE.
[2:42:53] YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
[2:42:56] COUNCILOR CULPEPPER THINKS HE'S
[2:42:57] IN THE COURTROOM.
[2:42:58] YOU'RE NOT KNOW CITY
[2:42:59] COUNCIL NOW ACT LIKE ONE.
[2:43:02] ALL RIGHT, ALL RIGHT, ALL
[2:43:03] RIGHT.
[2:43:03] OKAY.
[2:43:04] LISTEN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[2:43:06] I HAVE FIVE QUESTIONS I'D LIKE
[2:43:08] TO KNOW SINCE 2022, UH, THE
[2:43:11] MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER.
[2:43:12] UM, ON ESTABLISHING THIS, I
[2:43:14] WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE
[2:43:15] BUDGET REFLECTS THE CITY'S
[2:43:17] COMMITMENT TO THAT TO THESE
[2:43:19] DELIVERABLES.
[2:43:19] LIKE HOW MUCH MONEY DO WE HAVE
[2:43:22] IN THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT
[2:43:24] TO HELP SUPPORT THE GOALS AND
[2:43:26] OBJECTIVES?
[2:43:26] I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON
[2:43:28] THAT.
[2:43:28] OKAY.
[2:43:28] SO I THINK IT'S REALLY
[2:43:29] IMPORTANT BECAUSE THE BUDGET IS
[2:43:31] A VALUE STATEMENT AND IF WE'RE
[2:43:32] SAYING THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO
[2:43:33] THIS AND I'D LIKE TO SEE NOT
[2:43:35] JUST SOMETHING IN PAPER I LIKE
[2:43:36] TO SEE WHAT THE MONEY LOOKS
[2:43:38] LIKE.
[2:43:40] UM TO FULFILL THESE
[2:43:41] DELIVERABLES.
[2:43:42] UH I JUST WANT TO KNOW FOR THE
[2:43:43] RECORD THAT THE CITY'S ALSO A
[2:43:44] LANDLORD.
[2:43:45] YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF VHA
[2:43:46] PROPERTIES.
[2:43:47] I THINK THAT I'D LIKE TO HEAR
[2:43:49] FROM YOU WHAT ROLE THE CITY IS
[2:43:51] PLAYING, IF ANY, ESPECIALLY
[2:43:53] WHEN WE'RE SETTING THE MARKET
[2:43:54] RENT WHEN WE GIVE A VOUCHER
[2:43:56] HOLDER $3,000 FOR A VOUCHER.
[2:44:00] WHAT LIKE I'M JUST CURIOUS
[2:44:02] ABOUT WHAT ROLE ARE WE PLAYING
[2:44:05] IN MAKING THIS CITY LESS
[2:44:07] AFFORDABLE WHEN OTHER SMALLER
[2:44:09] LANDLORDS THEN HAVE TO COMPETE
[2:44:11] WITH UH WITH YOUR VHA VOUCHER
[2:44:15] THRESHOLD?
[2:44:16] UM, AND I NOTICED IN YOUR
[2:44:18] POWERPOINT YOU HAD A LOT
[2:44:19] OF WHYS AND ACTIONS BUT WHAT I
[2:44:20] DIDN'T SEE WERE OUTCOMES WHICH
[2:44:22] IS THE LINE OF QUESTIONS THAT
[2:44:24] COUNCIL CULPEPER WAS ASKING.
[2:44:26] I'M CURIOUS WERE YOU WEARING
[2:44:27] YOUR PRESENTATION?
[2:44:28] ARE THE ACTUAL DELIVERABLES NOT
[2:44:31] JUST THE ASPIRATIONAL KIND
[2:44:32] OF LIKE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING
[2:44:33] TO DO.
[2:44:34] I LIKE TO LEAN IN A LITTLE BIT
[2:44:35] MORE ON ANY DATA THAT YOU HAVE
[2:44:38] TO SHARE, UM, SMALL LANDLORDS
[2:44:41] AND UM AND DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
[2:44:43] LIKE WHITE STADIUM.
[2:44:44] I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT WHY
[2:44:45] STADIUM BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT'S
[2:44:46] NOT A GOOD HEARING WITHOUT
[2:44:47] ME TALKING ABOUT WHITE STADIUM.
[2:44:49] THESE ARE POTENTIAL PROJECTS
[2:44:50] THAT, UH, WILL DISPLACE BOSTON
[2:44:54] RESIDENTS AND ALSO CREATE
[2:44:56] FURTHER FINANCIAL HARDSHIP FOR
[2:44:58] SMALLER LANDLORDS WHO THEN HAVE
[2:44:59] TO INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES.
[2:45:01] IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING
[2:45:02] PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY
[2:45:03] OF BOSTON, I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW
[2:45:05] YOU ARE LOOKING AT ANTI
[2:45:08] DISPLACEMENT WHEN WE'RE
[2:45:09] THINKING ABOUT BIG PROJECTS
[2:45:10] LIKE THAT THAT WILL HAVE AN
[2:45:11] UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE ON
[2:45:13] LANDLORDS AND RESIDENTS.
[2:45:15] SO JUST.
[2:45:15] IF YOU COULD.
[2:45:16] TALK TO ME ABOUT THAT AND
[2:45:18] THEN CENSUS TRACKING YOU KNOW
[2:45:22] WE I'VE HEARD AND I HAVE SEEN
[2:45:24] THAT SINCE COVID WE'VE LOST A
[2:45:26] BIG CHUNK OF BLACK AND BROWN
[2:45:28] FOLKS TO THEY HAVE LEFT THE
[2:45:30] CITY OF BOSTON AND WE KEEP
[2:45:32] TALKING ABOUT KEEPING RESIDENTS
[2:45:33] HERE.
[2:45:34] I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT DO YOU
[2:45:35] KNOW ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT WE
[2:45:37] HAVE DISPLACED?
[2:45:38] UM, ARE YOU TRACKING ANY OF THE
[2:45:40] FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN DISPLACED
[2:45:43] UM OR HAVE BEEN UH,
[2:45:45] DISCRIMINATED AGAINST SO
[2:45:46] COULDN'T FIND A PLACE TO GO SO
[2:45:48] THEY JUST UP AND LEFT UM AND
[2:45:50] WHAT WHAT ARE WE DOING AS A
[2:45:52] WHAT ARE WE DOING?
[2:45:54] UM, TO REPAIR THAT HARM WE
[2:45:56] FOLKS WHO HAVE BEEN.
[2:45:57] UM.
[2:45:58] DISPLACED AND OR
[2:46:00] DISCRIMINATED AGAINST THAT'S A
[2:46:02] LOT.
[2:46:03] AND YOU COULD TAKE IT IN THE
[2:46:06] ORDER IN WHICH YOU FEEL MOST
[2:46:07] COMFORTABLE IN LEANING INTO.
[2:46:10] SURE.
[2:46:11] SO UM.
[2:46:13] I SUPPOSE.
[2:46:13] I DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB
[2:46:15] OF UM, CLARIFYING MY ROLE AND
[2:46:17] UH AND DWAYNE'S.
[2:46:19] OFFICE IS SORT OF DUAL ROLE IN
[2:46:20] THIS SO MY ROLE IS.
[2:46:22] TO GET UPDATES FROM THE.
[2:46:23] SEVEN CITY DEPARTMENTS AS TO
[2:46:26] WHAT.
[2:46:26] THEY HAVE DONE.
[2:46:28] TO MEET EACH ACTION ITEM.
[2:46:30] I THINK WHAT WE CAN DO A BETTER
[2:46:31] JOB OF UH IT SOUNDS LIKE UM UH
[2:46:34] THE COUNCIL'S IN AGREEMENT IS
[2:46:36] GETTING SORT OF THE THE OUTCOME
[2:46:38] DATA UH, AFTER OUR PROGRAM HAS
[2:46:40] STARTED.
[2:46:41] YEAH.
[2:46:42] IT'S.
[2:46:42] BEEN SINCE 2022.
[2:46:43] SO I THINK YOU KNOW WHEN YOU'RE
[2:46:45] FIVE AND I JUST FEEL LIKE
[2:46:46] THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIOUSNESS TO
[2:46:49] REALLY GET THIS.
[2:46:50] WORK AND THE OUTCOMES OF THIS
[2:46:52] WORK.
[2:46:53] YES.
[2:46:53] AND AND SO.
[2:46:54] THE THE.
[2:46:55] WAY MANY OF THESE.
[2:46:56] THE.
[2:46:56] LARGER PROGRAMS WORK IS THEY'RE
[2:46:58] THEY'RE TRACKING THEIR THEIR
[2:46:59] OWN OUTCOME DATA AND.
[2:47:01] SO IT'S.
[2:47:01] UH IT'S.
[2:47:02] QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO SORT
[2:47:04] OF PULL IT ALL TOGETHER.
[2:47:05] UM BUT UM WE HEAR YOU ON THAT
[2:47:07] AND WE'LL.
[2:47:08] PULL THAT TOGETHER.
[2:47:09] UM, AND SO I'M.
[2:47:11] YOU KNOW.
[2:47:12] I'M NOT HERE AS AN EXPERT ON
[2:47:14] UH, HOW WE DO ANTI DISPLACEMENT
[2:47:16] WORK.
[2:47:16] UM, I FEEL.
[2:47:17] LIKE THE.
[2:47:18] PROGRESS REPORT SORT
[2:47:19] OF OUTLINES THAT.
[2:47:20] UM, FOR YEAR ONE, UM, WE, UM UH
[2:47:25] UM AND THEN WE'RE ALSO.
[2:47:27] PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO WHAT
[2:47:29] THE CENSUS DATA HAS TO SAY
[2:47:30] ABOUT THAT.
[2:47:31] UM, WE ARE TRACKING THAT UM,
[2:47:33] WE'LL HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU
[2:47:34] ON THE BUDGET PIECE.
[2:47:35] UM, UH, IN ADDITION TO BUDGET.
[2:47:38] FOR UH, THE OFFICE OF FAIR
[2:47:40] HOUSING AND EQUITY TO.
[2:47:41] TO SORT OF.
[2:47:42] COORDINATE THIS WORK.
[2:47:43] UM, THERE'S ALL THE BUDGETARY
[2:47:45] INVESTMENTS TO ACTUALLY DO
[2:47:46] THIS.
[2:47:46] WORK WHICH THEN FIT UNDER, YOU
[2:47:48] KNOW, ALL SEVEN.
[2:47:49] DEPARTMENTS SO YOU DON'T HAVE
[2:47:50] ANY BUDGET DATA, YOU DON'T KNOW
[2:47:52] HOW MUCH.
[2:47:52] NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
[2:47:54] OKAY.
[2:47:55] I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE
[2:47:56] RECORD JUST KIND OF LIKE THAT
[2:47:57] IS UH TO THE CHAIR I'D LIKE TO
[2:47:59] MAKE SURE THAT THE BUDGET
[2:48:00] REFLECTS THE GOALS AND
[2:48:02] ASPIRATIONS OF THIS PARTICULAR
[2:48:04] THE VISION THAT THE MAYOR HAS
[2:48:05] PUT OUT IN 2022.
[2:48:08] UM, AND THEN TALK TO ME A
[2:48:10] LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
[2:48:11] DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS LIKE WHITE
[2:48:12] STADIUM AND THE IMPACT THAT
[2:48:15] PROPERTY TAXES WILL HAVE ON.
[2:48:19] THAT THE I I'M.
[2:48:22] TO TO MY.
[2:48:23] MEMORY THAT DOESN'T FALL.
[2:48:25] UNDER ANY OF THE 108 UM
[2:48:28] ACTION ITEMS.
[2:48:29] UM SO.
[2:48:29] YOU KNOW FOR.
[2:48:31] FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK.
[2:48:32] TO IT I'D HAVE TO BE ABLE TO
[2:48:33] LOOK.
[2:48:33] IT UP.
[2:48:34] UH, AS TO HOW ANY INDIVIDUAL
[2:48:37] AGENCY REPORTED ON.
[2:48:37] THE UH SO.
[2:48:39] THE.
[2:48:39] THE AND THIS IS MY LAST PIECE
[2:48:42] IS THAT THERE IS A DIRECT
[2:48:43] CORRELATION WITH DEVELOPMENT
[2:48:45] AND PLANNING AND DISPLACEMENT
[2:48:48] AND KEEPING BLACK AND BROWN
[2:48:49] PEOPLE HERE IN THE CITY
[2:48:51] OF BOSTON.
[2:48:51] AND SO WHILE YOU MAY NOT HAVE
[2:48:53] THAT INFORMATION, I JUST WANT
[2:48:55] TO KNOW FOR THE RECORD THAT
[2:48:56] THAT INFORMATION IS IMPORTANT
[2:48:57] TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE
[2:48:59] TALKING ABOUT ACCESS UM, TO
[2:49:01] FAIR HOUSING AND ALSO UH,
[2:49:06] DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE IN MANY
[2:49:07] WAYS THOSE THINGS FOR BLACK AND
[2:49:09] BROWN PEOPLE IN PARTICULAR
[2:49:09] COULD FEEL DISCRIMINATORY AND
[2:49:11] THAT YOU ARE CREATING AN
[2:49:13] ENVIRONMENT WHICH WE ARE NOT
[2:49:14] GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIVE IN THE
[2:49:15] CITY ANYMORE.
[2:49:17] SO THOSE UNINTENDED
[2:49:18] CONSEQUENCES DO HAVE A ROLE IN
[2:49:20] THIS CONVERSATION.
[2:49:21] AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR
[2:49:22] US TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AT THE
[2:49:24] VERY LEAST.
[2:49:25] AND SO MY TIME IS UP.
[2:49:27] WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
[2:49:28] I THINK WE SHOULD DO A SECOND
[2:49:29] HEARING BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT
[2:49:30] MORE THAT WE NEED TO UNPACK.
[2:49:32] THANK YOU.
[2:49:34] COUNCILOR.
[2:49:35] UM.
[2:49:36] COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[2:49:37] YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.
[2:49:38] THANK YOU.
[2:49:39] MR CHAIR.
[2:49:40] THANK YOU TO THE PANEL.
[2:49:41] I LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY
[2:49:42] PANEL AT THE BEGINNING AND
[2:49:44] LISTENED TO EVERY WORD OF THE
[2:49:46] ADMINISTRATION PANEL POINT FOR
[2:49:48] ME TO BE HERE TO LEARN AS MUCH
[2:49:50] AS I CAN.
[2:49:51] I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK AND MY
[2:49:52] COUNCIL FOR BEING HERE.
[2:49:54] UH, MR CHAIRMAN, I READ A
[2:49:56] COUPLE QUESTIONS INTO THE
[2:49:57] RECORD UM, AND HOPEFULLY GET A
[2:49:59] GET SOME ANSWERS.
[2:50:01] OKAY.
[2:50:02] UM SO I WANT TO READ THESE
[2:50:05] QUESTIONS INTO THE RECORD.
[2:50:06] IF YOU COULD GET ME AN ANSWER
[2:50:07] I'LL GET THEM THROUGH THE CHAIR
[2:50:08] RATHER AND UM.
[2:50:11] BUT HOW HOW DID THE PLANNING
[2:50:13] DEPARTMENT EVALUATE THE SQUARES
[2:50:15] AND STREETS ON PERSONS
[2:50:17] PROTECTED BY FAIR HOUSING LAWS
[2:50:19] BEFORE THE PLAN WAS SENT TO THE
[2:50:21] BPA BOARD?
[2:50:23] AND WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE
[2:50:25] BEFORE GOING TO THE BOARD?
[2:50:27] UM, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO
[2:50:30] SUPPORT RENTERS AND SMALL
[2:50:31] BUSINESSES FROM DISPLACING
[2:50:34] DISPLACEMENT BEFORE REZONING
[2:50:36] TOOK PLACE AND WERE WE
[2:50:39] SUCCESSFUL?
[2:50:42] UM THE MAYOR'S GUIDANCE CALLS
[2:50:43] FOR AN ASSESSMENT OF POTENTIAL
[2:50:45] ZONING IMPACT OR EFFECTS ON
[2:50:47] PERSONS AND PROTECTED GROUPS
[2:50:48] BEFORE ZONING GOES BEFORE THE
[2:50:51] BPA BOARD BEFORE A VOTE DID
[2:50:53] THAT ASSESSMENT TAKE PLACE?
[2:50:56] UM.
[2:51:00] MY MY QUESTION I WOULD LIKE YOU
[2:51:01] TO ANSWER UM IF YOU PLEASE IS
[2:51:04] ON YOUR GOAL NUMBER ONE
[2:51:06] INCREASE HOUSING ASSET ACCESS
[2:51:07] FOR PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES
[2:51:10] OLDER ADULTS OF I REPRESENT THE
[2:51:12] MOST RESIDENTS LIVING IN PUBLIC
[2:51:14] HOUSING OF ANY DISTRICT CITY
[2:51:16] COUNCIL AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW I
[2:51:18] AM CONCERNED ABOUT ACCESS FOR
[2:51:20] PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES IN
[2:51:21] PUBLIC HOUSING.
[2:51:22] MOST OF THEM ARE PEOPLE
[2:51:23] OF COLOR IN BAR DEVELOPMENTS
[2:51:26] DUE TO FAULTY ELEVATORS.
[2:51:28] ARE YOU AWARE OF THIS?
[2:51:32] THAT THAT.
[2:51:33] THAT UH THE ELEVATOR.
[2:51:35] UH ISSUE.
[2:51:35] IN PARTICULAR?
[2:51:36] YES, YES.
[2:51:38] WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE
[2:51:40] THAT PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES
[2:51:42] HAVE EQUAL ACCESS TO HOUSING.
[2:51:47] AT VHA BUILDINGS KNOWING THAT
[2:51:49] WE HAVE, UM, A MAJOR PROBLEM ON
[2:51:51] OUR HANDS WITH ELEVATOR ACCESS
[2:51:53] ?
[2:51:55] UM, AS I MENTIONED, UM.
[2:51:58] MY ROLE.
[2:51:59] IN THIS IS TO SORT OF HELP.
[2:52:01] MONITOR THE ASSESSMENT OF FAIR
[2:52:02] HOUSING.
[2:52:03] SO THAT'S A VERY SPECIFIC.
[2:52:04] UM, ISSUE.
[2:52:06] UH, AS OPPOSED TO SORT OF A
[2:52:07] PROGRAM.
[2:52:07] POLICY.
[2:52:08] OR SERVICE.
[2:52:08] WELL.
[2:52:09] I BUT.
[2:52:10] THE ACTION IS STATED, UM, THAT
[2:52:13] YOU WANT TO SUPPORT PEOPLE WITH
[2:52:14] DISABILITIES WHO HAVE BEEN
[2:52:15] CHRONICALLY HOMELESS AND
[2:52:17] SEEKING PERMANENT HOUSING.
[2:52:18] WE HELP PEOPLE WITH PERMANENT
[2:52:20] HOUSING IN VHA, BUT WE HAVE TO
[2:52:23] PROVIDE THEM A SAFE ENVIRONMENT
[2:52:25] TO ACCESS THAT HOUSING.
[2:52:28] THAT'S WHERE I'M.
[2:52:31] I IS THAT WHERE YOU ARE AT?
[2:52:37] UM I'M NOT SURE HOW TO.
[2:52:38] ANSWER THAT.
[2:52:39] IS IS THAT.
[2:52:40] WHERE I'M.
[2:52:40] AT AS A.
[2:52:41] AS A IS THAT.
[2:52:42] IMPORTANT TO YOU THAT WE
[2:52:43] PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH A SAFE
[2:52:45] ENVIRONMENT AND I MEANING UM,
[2:52:48] ELEVATORS THAT WORK IN VHA
[2:52:49] BUILDINGS IS THAT A CIVIL
[2:52:50] RIGHTS ISSUE?
[2:52:51] I THINK IT IS.
[2:52:52] UH, THE ACCESS.
[2:52:53] IS AND SAFETY IS, UH.
[2:52:55] IMPORTANT TO US AS I'M SURE
[2:52:56] IT'S.
[2:52:57] IMPORTANT TO EVERYONE AND.
[2:52:58] UH.
[2:52:59] I WOULD REFER.
[2:52:59] TO THE VHA.
[2:53:00] AS TO THE PROGRESS THEY'RE
[2:53:01] MAKING ON UM ON.
[2:53:02] ADDRESSING.
[2:53:03] THOSE ISSUES BUT THEY'RE NOT
[2:53:03] MAKING GOOD PROGRESS.
[2:53:05] I FOLLOW THAT ISSUE VERY
[2:53:07] CLOSELY AND I'M MAKING GOOD
[2:53:08] PROGRESS.
[2:53:09] IN FACT THEY ARE THEY ARE NOT
[2:53:12] MAKING PROGRESS AT ALL AND
[2:53:14] RESIDENTS ARE COMPLAINING TO
[2:53:15] ME NOT JUST NOT JUST IN MY
[2:53:17] DISTRICT BUT ACROSS THE CITY
[2:53:19] THAT RESIDENTS ARE HAVING A
[2:53:20] VERY DIFFICULT TIME ACCESSING
[2:53:23] THEIR APARTMENT IN VHA
[2:53:25] DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE AN
[2:53:26] ELEVATOR IS BROKEN.
[2:53:28] I DO BELIEVE THAT'S A CIVIL
[2:53:29] RIGHTS ISSUE BUT OTHER PEOPLE
[2:53:31] MIGHT DISAGREE WITH ME.
[2:53:33] UM BUT IF YOU ARE A PERSON WITH
[2:53:35] DISABILITIES IN A WHEELCHAIR UM
[2:53:38] OR AN ELDERLY PERSON THAT CAN'T
[2:53:39] GET UP ON THE STAIRS UM THAT'S
[2:53:43] THAT'S THAT'S A VIOLATION IN MY
[2:53:45] OPINION OF THE ADA AND IF WE'RE
[2:53:48] SERIOUS ABOUT WHAT WE'RE
[2:53:49] TALKING ABOUT TODAY AS YOU
[2:53:51] MENTIONED AND AND NUMBER ONE
[2:53:55] AND GOAL NUMBER ONE HOW WE
[2:53:57] SUPPORT PERSONS WITH
[2:53:58] DISABILITIES AND MOST MOST
[2:54:00] OF THE PEOPLE MOST PEOPLE IN.
[2:54:03] MOST PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES.
[2:54:06] AT VHA, MANY A HIGH PERCENTAGE
[2:54:08] OF THEM ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.
[2:54:10] THAT'S WHY I DO THINK THIS IS A
[2:54:12] CIVIL RIGHTS ISSUE.
[2:54:13] I DO THINK IT'S ALSO ABOUT
[2:54:16] RESPECTING RESPECTING OUR
[2:54:19] SENIORS.
[2:54:19] IT'S ABOUT RESPECTING PERSONS
[2:54:21] WITH DISABILITIES.
[2:54:24] KNOWING WHAT MY OPINION IS WHAT
[2:54:25] ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?
[2:54:30] UM WELL.
[2:54:31] I, I WILL UM GO.
[2:54:32] BACK AND SPEAK TO MY
[2:54:33] COLLEAGUES.
[2:54:34] AT VHA.
[2:54:34] I'LL SPEAK.
[2:54:35] TO OUR COLLEAGUES AT UH THE
[2:54:36] DISABILITIES.
[2:54:36] COMMISSION AS WELL.
[2:54:38] UM, AND WE'LL UH WE'LL GET.
[2:54:40] AN UPDATE.
[2:54:41] AND YOU'LL GET ME AN UPDATE ON
[2:54:43] THE BAR ELEVATOR SYSTEM
[2:54:46] THROUGHOUT AND GIVE ME AN
[2:54:48] UPDATE.
[2:54:49] I CAN.
[2:54:49] DO THAT.
[2:54:50] THAT'D BE EXCELLENT.
[2:54:51] THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING
[2:54:52] FOR FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME
[2:54:53] AND IT'S BEEN STALLED BY YOU,
[2:54:55] SIR.
[2:54:57] BECAUSE YOU'RE.
[2:54:59] MY OPINION BECAUSE YOU'RE SO
[2:55:01] PASSIONATE.
[2:55:01] ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
[2:55:04] UM, YOU SHOULD THINK ABOUT
[2:55:05] FILING A COMPLAINT.
[2:55:07] WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT.
[2:55:08] FILING COMPLAINT WITH OUR
[2:55:09] OFFICE.
[2:55:10] UM, EVEN THOUGH IT MIGHT BE, UH
[2:55:13] ,YOU KNOW, AGAINST.
[2:55:15] YOU SHOULD FILE A COMPLAINT AS
[2:55:17] ANYONE CAN FILE A COMPLAINT.
[2:55:18] YOU CAN FILE A COMPLAINT ON
[2:55:19] BEHALF OF THE.
[2:55:21] CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU'RE
[2:55:22] TALKING ABOUT.
[2:55:23] YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WE.
[2:55:24] WE WE.
[2:55:25] YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO
[2:55:26] TALK.
[2:55:26] ABOUT IT BUT YOU.
[2:55:27] YOU KNOW.
[2:55:28] YOU NEED TO GET A CITIZEN.
[2:55:30] SO SO.
[2:55:31] UH.
[2:55:32] IF I'M HEARING YOU
[2:55:33] CORRECTLY, IT MAY NOT BE ON THE
[2:55:35] SURFACE.
[2:55:35] IT MAY NOT BE A VIOLATION.
[2:55:37] OF OF.
[2:55:38] UH.
[2:55:39] FHA UM BUT IF THERE'S A PATTERN
[2:55:40] THEN MAYBE.
[2:55:41] WE CAN.
[2:55:42] FILE A COMMISSION BASED
[2:55:43] COMPLAINT OR AT LEAST HAVE SOME
[2:55:44] MORE CONVERSATIONS.
[2:55:46] WITH WITH UH.
[2:55:48] WITH THE VHA ABOUT.
[2:55:51] UM WHAT.
[2:55:52] ABOUT THE MISMANAGEMENT
[2:55:53] OF THESE.
[2:55:54] BUILDINGS IF.
[2:55:54] THAT'S HOW YOU WANT TO
[2:55:55] CATEGORIZE IT.
[2:55:56] BUT I WOULD.
[2:55:57] UH I.
[2:55:58] WOULD FILE A COMPLAINT.
[2:56:00] DWANE THAT'S THE BEST ADVICE
[2:56:02] I'VE HEARD IN SEVERAL YEARS
[2:56:04] I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS I
[2:56:05] WANT TO SAY THANK YOU I HAVEN'T
[2:56:07] FILED A COMPLAINT WITH FAIR
[2:56:08] HOUSING I'VE FILED A COMPLAINT
[2:56:10] WITH THE BAR THEMSELVES UH
[2:56:12] FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE
[2:56:14] STATE UM WHICH IS THEY OVERSEE
[2:56:17] THE ELEVATOR INSPECTIONS,
[2:56:20] MAINTENANCE OF ELEVATORS,
[2:56:21] ARCHITECTURAL ACCESS BOARD.
[2:56:23] IT'S ACTUALLY CALLED UM, I
[2:56:25] FILED THE COMPLAINT WITH THEM.
[2:56:26] I ALSO FILED A COMPLAINT WITH
[2:56:27] THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS WELL.
[2:56:28] BUT RESPECT WHAT YOU JUST
[2:56:31] ADVOCATED FOR OR RECOMMENDED, I
[2:56:33] SHOULD SAY.
[2:56:34] I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
[2:56:35] IT'S PROBABLY THE BEST ADVICE
[2:56:36] I'VE RECEIVED IN YEARS AND JUST
[2:56:39] WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR
[2:56:41] HAVING THE COURAGE TO TO SPEAK
[2:56:43] OUT ABOUT THAT.
[2:56:44] AND YOU KNOW SOMETHING?
[2:56:46] UM, THAT'S HOW BOB WAS AT FAIR
[2:56:48] HOUSE AND HE WOULD TELL YOU HE
[2:56:50] WOULD RECOMMEND THINGS TO YOU
[2:56:52] TO DO UM, EVEN IF IT WAS
[2:56:55] SOMEWHAT CONTROVERSIAL.
[2:56:57] THAT'S WHAT I REALLY RESPECTED
[2:56:58] ABOUT HIM AND FAIR HOUSING IS
[2:56:59] HE HE GAVE YOU THE STRAIGHT
[2:57:01] INFORMATION AND HE WAS HE WAS
[2:57:03] DIRECT AND HE WAS HONEST AND HE
[2:57:04] WAS SINCERE AND I JUST I WANT
[2:57:06] TO SAY THANK YOU.
[2:57:07] I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU
[2:57:08] OKAY.
[2:57:08] WELCOME.
[2:57:09] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[2:57:10] THANK YOU.
[2:57:11] THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
[2:57:12] COUNCILOR WEBER, YOU HAVE FIVE
[2:57:13] MINUTES.
[2:57:16] OKAY.
[2:57:17] THANK YOU.
[2:57:17] UH.
[2:57:18] FOLLOWING UP OF.
[2:57:19] THE ON THE END OF THAT OF BOB
[2:57:20] TERRELL SAT RIGHT THERE AND HE
[2:57:22] TALKED TO US.
[2:57:23] ABOUT.
[2:57:23] UH, FAIR HOUSING.
[2:57:25] TESTERS AND.
[2:57:26] HOW IMPORTANT THAT WAS.
[2:57:26] AND WE HEARD ABOUT THE.
[2:57:27] SUFFOLK.
[2:57:28] UH, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATION
[2:57:30] WHICH FOUND.
[2:57:32] LANDLORDS.
[2:57:32] YOU KNOW.
[2:57:33] PUTTING IN WRITING I DON'T RENT
[2:57:35] TO SECTION.
[2:57:35] EIGHT VOUCHER HOLDERS.
[2:57:38] UH UM AND SO UH I GUESS SO
[2:57:41] WHAT'S THE.
[2:57:42] STATUS OF FAIR.
[2:57:42] HOUSING TESTING NOW?
[2:57:44] UM AND THEN.
[2:57:46] WE ALSO I KNOW IN THE BUDGET
[2:57:48] PROCESS WE DID PUT IN $100,000
[2:57:50] .
[2:57:51] FOR A.
[2:57:51] FAIR FAIR HOUSING TESTING
[2:57:52] PROGRAM.
[2:57:53] WE WANT TO THANK YOU KNOW MY
[2:57:54] COLLEAGUES I KNOW.
[2:57:55] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE COUNCILOR.
[2:57:56] CULPEPPER AND MY OTHER.
[2:57:58] COLLEAGUES SUPPORTED THAT.
[2:57:59] BUT.
[2:57:59] UH, CAN.
[2:58:00] WE GET AN UPDATE ON ON THAT
[2:58:02] ?
[2:58:03] YES.
[2:58:03] UM, WE'RE ALMOST DONE
[2:58:04] FINALIZING THE RFP.
[2:58:06] UM, WE ACTUALLY.
[2:58:07] UH, SPOKE TO ONE OF THE
[2:58:09] RESEARCHERS.
[2:58:10] ,UM, LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK.
[2:58:11] BEFORE.
[2:58:12] UH, FOR THAT STUDY JUST.
[2:58:13] CITED COUNSELOR UH, AND WE WANT
[2:58:14] TO MAKE SURE THE RFP IS ALIGNED
[2:58:17] WITH HOW, UM.
[2:58:18] ALL THE.
[2:58:19] RELEVANT CITY AGENCIES
[2:58:20] ACTUALLY FUNCTION.
[2:58:21] UM, SO, UM, WE'RE JUST DOING
[2:58:23] OUR DUE DILIGENCE THERE AND
[2:58:24] THEN, UM, WE'LL BE.
[2:58:25] RELEASING THE RFP.
[2:58:27] OKAY.
[2:58:28] AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE UM,
[2:58:31] UH, ADDING ADDITIONAL.
[2:58:32] FUNDS TO THAT.
[2:58:33] AND SO.
[2:58:34] IT'LL BE.
[2:58:34] WE'RE PLAYING FOR IT TO BE A
[2:58:36] THREE YEAR RFP.
[2:58:39] OKAY.
[2:58:39] UM AND THEN SO.
[2:58:41] RIGHT NOW UH, HOW MANY HOUSING
[2:58:44] DO WE HAVE HOUSING.
[2:58:45] TESTERS AND WHAT.
[2:58:47] DO WE DO ANY HOUSING TESTING.
[2:58:49] THE RFP?
[2:58:51] UH, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE
[2:58:52] RFP OR JUST IN GENERAL.
[2:58:53] JUST STAFF?
[2:58:54] YEAH.
[2:58:54] OR IN GENERAL?
[2:58:55] NO, NO.
[2:58:55] WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF.
[2:58:56] TO DO TESTING.
[2:58:57] OKAY.
[2:58:58] UM AND THEN WHAT I.
[2:58:59] GUESS WHAT.
[2:59:01] WHAT IS THE PLAN.
[2:59:02] FOR THE RFP?
[2:59:04] I GUESS.
[2:59:04] I MEAN, I KNOW.
[2:59:05] YOU'RE STILL WORKING ON IT,
[2:59:06] BUT.
[2:59:07] UH, WHAT'S.
[2:59:08] THE GOAL IN TERMS.
[2:59:09] OF STAFFING AND AND NUMBER OF.
[2:59:11] INSPECTIONS OR UM.
[2:59:13] UH, WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO
[2:59:14] YOU ON THAT.
[2:59:15] UM.
[2:59:16] IT'S UH I MEAN WE CAN GET BACK
[2:59:18] TO YOU PRETTY.
[2:59:18] QUICKLY.
[2:59:19] ON THAT BUT.
[2:59:19] UM, THE THE.
[2:59:21] STRUCTURALLY IT WOULD BE TO UH
[2:59:23] ,CONTRACT UM WITH AN EXTERNAL
[2:59:25] ENTITY.
[2:59:26] THAT COULD SORT.
[2:59:27] OF COORDINATE DOING.
[2:59:27] ALL OF THAT AND.
[2:59:28] THEN THE UH, SORT OF THE DATA
[2:59:30] REPORTING, UM, WOULD COME TO US
[2:59:32] AND WE WOULD.
[2:59:33] UM WE WOULD SORT.
[2:59:34] OF USE THAT INFORMATION ON OUR
[2:59:36] SIDE.
[2:59:36] OKAY.
[2:59:37] DOES THAT MEAN LIKE LIKE
[2:59:38] WOULD SUFFOLK DO I.
[2:59:39] WHO WHO.
[2:59:40] WHAT'S AN EXTERNAL ENTITY.
[2:59:42] OR LIKE WHAT TYPE OF ENTITY
[2:59:44] OR WE COULD HANDLE THIS.
[2:59:47] UM IN MY IMAGINATION IT'S IT'S
[2:59:49] UH IT'S A NONPROFIT
[2:59:50] ORGANIZATION OR UH, A HIGHER
[2:59:53] EDUCATION INSTITUTION, UM, THAT
[2:59:55] HAS.
[2:59:56] EXPERIENCE UM, DOING THIS SORT
[2:59:57] OF, UH, WORK.
[2:59:58] OKAY.
[3:00:00] UH, AND.
[3:00:05] SO.
[3:00:05] UH, THE.
[3:00:07] THERE'S NO EXCUSE ME BUT TO BE
[3:00:08] CLEAR, THIS.
[3:00:09] DOESN'T EXCLUDE.
[3:00:09] ANY OTHER.
[3:00:09] ENTITY FROM APPLYING OR.
[3:00:11] YOU KNOW, I'M JUST A MALE.
[3:00:12] I'M JUST TRYING TO IMAGINE LIKE
[3:00:13] WHO.
[3:00:14] WOULD IT BE?
[3:00:14] IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, GIBLETS.
[3:00:17] IT COULD BE SUFFOLK.
[3:00:19] IT COULD BE.
[3:00:19] LIKE THEIR HOUSING GROUPS I
[3:00:21] GUESS.
[3:00:21] AND HISTORICALLY.
[3:00:22] SOMETIMES IN THESE SORT
[3:00:23] OF SITUATIONS.
[3:00:24] YOU MAY HAVE TWO TYPES.
[3:00:26] OF.
[3:00:26] EXPERTS PARTNER.
[3:00:27] TOGETHER FOR A JOINT
[3:00:28] APPLICATION.
[3:00:28] OKAY.
[3:00:29] UM I GUESS SO IN.
[3:00:31] TERMS OF THE LOOKING AT THE
[3:00:35] 2019.
[3:00:36] REPORT AND THE 14 GOALS AND.
[3:00:39] THE.
[3:00:40] 108 RECOMMENDATIONS.
[3:00:41] OR SORT OF GOALS WITHIN THE
[3:00:43] GOALS OKAY.
[3:00:45] I DID WONDER LIKE.
[3:00:46] IS IS THAT IS.
[3:00:48] THAT IS IT.
[3:00:49] TOO DIFFICULT TO HANDLE THAT
[3:00:51] LIKE YOU KNOW THERE'S A 200
[3:00:52] PAGE REPORT I DID GO THROUGH GO
[3:00:54] THROUGH IT I DON'T TEST ME ON
[3:00:56] IT BUT UM OR UH JUST TO LET OUR
[3:00:59] MONEY KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE YOU
[3:01:00] KNOW, WE DO GO THROUGH THE
[3:01:01] REPORTS UH, YOU KNOW, IN.
[3:01:04] TERMS OF LIKE TRYING TO MANAGE
[3:01:06] THAT.
[3:01:06] LIKE WOULD YOU WANT TO WE WOULD
[3:01:08] YOU WANT MORE GOALS, FEWER
[3:01:10] GOALS GROUP THEM TOGETHER IN
[3:01:12] TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING IN
[3:01:14] YOUR ROLE.
[3:01:14] HOW HAS IT BEEN JUST WITH THAT?
[3:01:17] IS THAT A LARGE NUMBER.
[3:01:19] OR SMALL NUMBER?
[3:01:20] I MEAN I WOULD SAY UM I THINK I
[3:01:25] THINK IT'S BEEN A LOT OF.
[3:01:26] WORK TO.
[3:01:27] UM TO COORDINATE UM SORT OF.
[3:01:29] UPDATES ON EACH OF THE ACTION
[3:01:31] ITEMS AND TO COORDINATE THE
[3:01:33] RELEVANT UH STAFF TO COME AND
[3:01:35] UPDATE THE UH MONITORING
[3:01:37] COMMITTEE, UH, IN PERSON, UM IN
[3:01:40] AT MEETINGS AND AND YOU KNOW.
[3:01:42] FOR SOME OF THE I.
[3:01:44] WOULD SAY FOR ALMOST ALL
[3:01:45] OF THE SEVEN AGENCIES UH THE
[3:01:47] PERSON THAT'S.
[3:01:47] DOING THAT REPORTING EVEN THEN.
[3:01:50] EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PART
[3:01:52] OF THAT DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE NOT
[3:01:54] GOING TO BE AN EXPERT ON, YOU
[3:01:55] KNOW, ANY PARTICULAR ITEM UM,
[3:01:59] UNLESS THEY WERE ALSO ASSIGNED
[3:02:00] TO DO THAT ITEM.
[3:02:02] SO THEY MIGHT YOU KNOW, MAYOR'S
[3:02:03] OFFICE FOR HOUSING FOR EXAMPLE,
[3:02:04] HAS ABOUT 75 ITEMS OR 85 ITEMS,
[3:02:07] SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[3:02:08] YOU KNOW.
[3:02:08] THE PEOPLE ARE.
[3:02:09] REPORTING THEY MIGHT BE
[3:02:10] EXPERTS ON 2 OR 3 OF THEM.
[3:02:11] AND SO THE MINE COMMITTEE WANTS
[3:02:12] TO.
[3:02:12] ASK ABOUT ONE OF THE OTHER
[3:02:14] ITEMS IN REALLY IN DEPTH.
[3:02:16] UM, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED TO BE
[3:02:18] PREPARED IN ADVANCE TO EITHER
[3:02:20] HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR TO
[3:02:21] BRING THEIR COLLEAGUE UM TO.
[3:02:23] TO TO THAT MEETING.
[3:02:23] AND SO RIGHT NOW, UM WE'RE
[3:02:25] TRYING TO HAVE SOME.
[3:02:26] EXPLORATORY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
[3:02:27] HOW TO STRUCTURE THINGS.
[3:02:28] BETTER AND.
[3:02:29] SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY.
[3:02:30] REALLY DO.
[3:02:31] INDEED GO.
[3:02:32] IN DEPTH.
[3:02:33] UM.
[3:02:33] UH, WITH.
[3:02:34] THE YOU.
[3:02:34] KNOW, THE PROJECT LEADS.
[3:02:35] FOR.
[3:02:35] THE VARIOUS ITEMS.
[3:02:36] OKAY.
[3:02:37] JUST I THINK SELECTIVE
[3:02:37] BLINDNESS ON THIS SIDE SO I
[3:02:39] DON'T SEE.
[3:02:40] THE CHAIR.
[3:02:40] THE TIME IS UP COUNCIL.
[3:02:42] UH YEAH I JUST IN.
[3:02:43] TERMS OF JUST HOW TO GET THE
[3:02:44] REPORTING AND YOU KNOW, I FEEL
[3:02:46] LIKE WE WE SHOULD HAVE MORE
[3:02:47] REGULAR AND UH, REPORTING ON
[3:02:49] HOW THIS IS GOING LIKE JUST
[3:02:52] MAYBE BRAINSTORMING WITH
[3:02:53] ADVOCATES TO FIGURE OUT, YOU
[3:02:55] KNOW, HOW TO HOW TO GET THERE
[3:02:56] AND MAYBE PART OF IT IS COMING
[3:02:58] UP WITH SOME LARGER.
[3:03:00] RUBRICS OR SOMETHING.
[3:03:01] BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHAIR.
[3:03:03] I APPRECIATE THE TIME.
[3:03:03] THANK YOU.
[3:03:05] COUNCILOR COUNCILOR.
[3:03:06] LOUIJEUNE UM.
[3:03:08] THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR CHAIR
[3:03:09] AND THANK YOU TO THE
[3:03:11] ADMINISTRATION FOR BEING HERE.
[3:03:12] I THINK UH I.
[3:03:12] JUST HEARD COUNCILOR WEBER ASK
[3:03:15] SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I
[3:03:16] HAD, BUT I GUESS A QUESTION I
[3:03:18] HAVE WHAT DOES A FULLY STAFFED
[3:03:19] OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND
[3:03:21] EQUITY LOOK LIKE?
[3:03:22] UH, FOR THE ADMINISTRATION.
[3:03:24] IT CONSISTS OF THE EXECUTIVE.
[3:03:26] DIRECTOR, DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
[3:03:29] UM.
[3:03:30] FOR INVESTIGATORS, INTAKE
[3:03:32] SPECIALIST UM, AS UH, SPECIAL
[3:03:35] PROJECTS POLICY MANAGER.
[3:03:38] UM, IF YOU'RE ASKING IN A
[3:03:41] DIRECTOR OF.
[3:03:41] INVESTIGATIONS OR SORRY IN A
[3:03:43] DIRECTOR OF INVESTIGATIONS THE
[3:03:44] .
[3:03:45] IF I HAD A WISH LIST.
[3:03:48] UM I WOULD ADD MORE UM, MEET.
[3:03:52] RESEARCH FOLKS WE NEED WE NEED
[3:03:53] RESEARCH FOLKS TO SUPPORT SOME
[3:03:55] OF THE POLICY TO HELP DEVELOP
[3:03:57] POLICY.
[3:03:58] UM.
[3:03:59] BE NICE WOULD BE NICE TO
[3:04:01] HAVE.
[3:04:01] UH.
[3:04:02] UM, COUNCILOR.
[3:04:04] LEGAL COUNCILOR.
[3:04:05] YEP.
[3:04:05] THAT'S SOMETHING THAT BOB
[3:04:06] TYRRELL FOUGHT FOR AND REALLY
[3:04:08] THE IDEA OF HAVING LIKE A
[3:04:10] GENERAL COUNCILOR FOR THE
[3:04:10] OFFICE OF FAIR HOUSING AND
[3:04:11] EQUITY TO BE ABLE TO BETTER
[3:04:13] MANAGE THE CASES.
[3:04:15] SO I THANK YOU FOR UPLIFTING
[3:04:16] THAT AND I JUST I'M ALWAYS
[3:04:17] CONSTANTLY.
[3:04:18] GETTING.
[3:04:18] CONVERSATIONS BACK WITH BOB
[3:04:19] TERRELL AND HOW HE UPLIFTED THE
[3:04:21] NEED FOR THAT AS WELL.
[3:04:22] YEAH WE YOU KNOW BOB AND I YOU
[3:04:24] KNOW BOB WAS MY MENTOR.
[3:04:24] WE TALKED ABOUT.
[3:04:25] IT ALL THE TIME.
[3:04:28] UM YOU KNOW WE'D HAVE TO BE
[3:04:30] CAREFUL WITH UH.
[3:04:31] WITH UH WITH COUNCILOR BUT UM
[3:04:34] BUT WE NEED IT.
[3:04:35] THE FOLKS NEED IT.
[3:04:36] THE FOLKS NEEDED ON THE FRONT
[3:04:37] END.
[3:04:40] UM AND AGAIN WE NEED.
[3:04:41] YOU KNOW, WE NEED.
[3:04:42] MORE RESEARCH.
[3:04:44] PERSONNEL TO HELP WITH.
[3:04:46] UM, IDENTIFYING.
[3:04:47] THE.
[3:04:47] DIFFERENT TRENDS THAT ARE GOING
[3:04:49] ON WITHIN THE HOUSING MARKET.
[3:04:51] SO SO UM.
[3:04:53] ,SO I WOULD I WOULD.
[3:04:54] ADVOCATE FOR MORE RESOURCE
[3:04:55] PEOPLE.
[3:04:56] WE HAVE ENOUGH.
[3:04:56] INVESTIGATORS I.
[3:04:57] THINK THE.
[3:04:58] TALENTED THE YOUNG THEY'RE
[3:04:59] DOING A FINE JOB.
[3:05:01] UM I'M CONFIDENT.
[3:05:02] THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE
[3:05:03] TO PULL OFF THE TESTING PROGRAM
[3:05:07] BECAUSE WE'VE GOT SOME
[3:05:07] TALENTED.
[3:05:08] FOLKS IN MY SHOP.
[3:05:09] ACTUALLY IN THE ENTIRE CABINET.
[3:05:10] WE HAVE SOME TALENTED FOLKS IN
[3:05:11] THE HIGH CABINET BUT UM.
[3:05:14] BUT YEAH.
[3:05:15] THAT'S WHAT I.
[3:05:16] WOULD.
[3:05:16] YOU.
[3:05:17] WELL THANK YOU.
[3:05:18] UM, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE STILL
[3:05:19] FOLKS WAITING TO TESTIFY AND I
[3:05:21] KNOW ON AND, UH, DWAYNE, HOW
[3:05:23] COMMITTED BOTH OF YOU ARE TO
[3:05:24] THIS WORK INTO, UM, ROOTING OUT
[3:05:29] PATTERNS OF HOUSING
[3:05:30] DISCRIMINATION THAT LEAD TO
[3:05:31] FURTHER RACIAL SEGREGATION THAT
[3:05:33] LEAD TO WEALTH SEGREGATION.
[3:05:34] AND SO, UM, THIS WORK IS
[3:05:36] INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.
[3:05:37] I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT
[3:05:38] SINCE I JOINED THE COUNCIL AND
[3:05:40] I KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY
[3:05:41] PEOPLE IN THE CITY WE HEARD
[3:05:42] FROM THE PRIOR PANEL WHO
[3:05:44] UNDERSTAND HOW EVERYTHING
[3:05:45] INTERSECTS WITH EACH OTHER.
[3:05:47] UM, I AGAIN I THINK AWARENESS
[3:05:49] AROUND UM WE NEED THE PEOPLE
[3:05:52] NEED TO KNOW THAT WE ARE TAKING
[3:05:53] THIS SERIOUSLY AND THAT DOESN'T
[3:05:55] HAPPEN IF WE'RE NOT DOING SORT
[3:05:56] OF ENFORCEMENT AND
[3:05:57] INVESTIGATION.
[3:05:58] SO UM.
[3:05:58] LOOK FORWARD TO US MOVING
[3:06:00] QUICKER IN THIS WORK.
[3:06:01] THANK YOU.
[3:06:01] I THINK IT'S.
[3:06:04] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.
[3:06:05] I WANT TO GIVE MYSELF SOME TIME
[3:06:06] JUST BECAUSE I HAVE A FEW
[3:06:07] QUESTIONS FOR YOU ALL.
[3:06:10] I, UM, JUST WANT TO FIRST OF.
[3:06:12] ALL, THE CONVERSATION.
[3:06:13] THAT HAS HAPPENED TO THE
[3:06:14] HISTORY OF BOSTON AND THE WAY
[3:06:16] THAT OUR ZONING AND LAWS.
[3:06:19] IN GENERAL WAY PASSED BEFORE
[3:06:20] ALL OF OUR TIMES HAVE SHAPED
[3:06:21] THE WAY THAT OUR CITY LOOKS
[3:06:22] LIKE TODAY.
[3:06:23] AND YOU KNOW, I WAS.
[3:06:25] ABLE TO.
[3:06:26] SPEAK TO A.
[3:06:27] PROFESSOR AT NORTHEASTERN
[3:06:28] UNIVERSITY, JOANNE FITZGERALD,
[3:06:30] AND.
[3:06:31] SHE TEACHES 21ST CENTURY CITIES
[3:06:33] .
[3:06:33] AND A LOT OF THE WORK THAT.
[3:06:35] WE HAVE.
[3:06:36] TO DO HERE IN THE CITY
[3:06:37] OF BOSTON IN TERMS OF REPAIRING
[3:06:38] A LOT OF THE THE DAMAGE THAT
[3:06:40] WAS DONE REALLY PREVIOUS YEARS
[3:06:42] AND I SEE THAT, UH, YOUR OFFICE
[3:06:45] SPECIFICALLY PLAYS A KEY ROLE
[3:06:46] IN THAT AND IT'S JUST BECAUSE
[3:06:49] OF.
[3:06:50] SO MUCH PREPARATION THAT WE
[3:06:52] HAVE TO DO THAT LEADS TO MY
[3:06:54] QUESTION IS HOW OFTEN ARE YOU
[3:06:56] GUYS INVOLVED IN THE MEETINGS
[3:06:58] WITH THE HOUSING DEPARTMENT AND
[3:07:00] THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHEN
[3:07:02] THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ZONING
[3:07:03] COMES UP, WHEN CONVERSATIONS
[3:07:05] ABOUT SPECIFIC HOUSING
[3:07:07] DEVELOPMENTS.
[3:07:07] UM.
[3:07:08] COME INTO FRUITION?
[3:07:09] I MEAN I'M A DISTRICT
[3:07:10] COUNCILOR AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE
[3:07:11] ALWAYS GETTING PROPOSALS OF OH
[3:07:13] HEY.
[3:07:14] THIS PROJECT WE COME TO YOUR
[3:07:16] DISTRICT.
[3:07:16] WHEN ARE YOU WHEN IS YOUR
[3:07:18] OFFICE.
[3:07:19] LOOPED IN TO THOSE
[3:07:20] CONVERSATIONS?
[3:07:22] SO SO IT HAPPENS AT SEVERAL
[3:07:23] DIFFERENT LEVELS.
[3:07:25] SO UM.
[3:07:25] UH, ON A BROADER.
[3:07:26] LEVEL, UH.
[3:07:27] THE CHIEF OF EQUITY
[3:07:28] INCLUSION SITS ON THE PLANNING
[3:07:29] ADVISORY COUNCIL.
[3:07:30] UM, SHE WILL OFTEN BRING
[3:07:32] ADDITIONAL STAFF WITH HER TO
[3:07:34] UM, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE
[3:07:35] TOPIC UH, AND SO BIG PICTURE
[3:07:38] CONVERSATIONS ABOUT.
[3:07:39] THE SORTS OF THINGS THAT
[3:07:40] YOU'RE.
[3:07:40] TALKING ABOUT.
[3:07:41] COUNCILOR.
[3:07:41] UM, EXCUSE ME, MR CHAIR.
[3:07:43] UH, DO COME UP.
[3:07:44] UM, UH.
[3:07:46] AT THOSE.
[3:07:47] MEETINGS AND THEN WHEN IT COMES
[3:07:49] TO SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL.
[3:07:50] PROJECTS THAT'S WHERE UM.
[3:07:52] THE.
[3:07:53] BEFORE IT COMES.
[3:07:54] IN AND SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE
[3:07:55] AND SO THE.
[3:07:55] DECK HAS.
[3:07:56] TWO OF OUR STAFF OR TECHNICAL.
[3:07:58] EXPERTS.
[3:07:59] UH, RIGHT.
[3:08:00] ONE ON FAIR HOUSING AND ONE
[3:08:02] ON UM.
[3:08:02] DISABILITY ACCESS.
[3:08:03] PARTICULARLY ARCHITECTURAL
[3:08:04] ACCESS.
[3:08:05] UM UH SIT THERE.
[3:08:07] AND THEN SORT OF IN THE.
[3:08:09] MIDDLE IS WHERE WE IDENTIFY
[3:08:11] EITHER PATTERNS FROM THE BOTTOM
[3:08:12] UP.
[3:08:13] OR FROM A BIGGER PICTURE, YOU
[3:08:15] KNOW, TOPIC THAT COMES UP WE
[3:08:16] MIGHT WANT TO GET INTO THE
[3:08:17] WEEDS UM, WITH UM ANY
[3:08:20] PARTICULAR PROJECTS.
[3:08:21] SO FOR EXAMPLE.
[3:08:23] YOU KNOW, WE STARTED TALKING
[3:08:24] ABOUT UM UH THE ANTI
[3:08:26] DISPLACEMENT PLAN UM AT SORT
[3:08:28] OF A HIGH LEVEL AND THEN OUT
[3:08:29] OF THAT CAME SOME UH INDIVIDUAL
[3:08:32] CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN EQUITY
[3:08:34] LEADERS AND UM.
[3:08:36] UH THE PLANNING ADVISORY
[3:08:38] COUNCIL AND THEN AFTER THAT WE
[3:08:39] BROUGHT IN OUR SORT
[3:08:40] OF TECHNICAL EXPERT STAFF TO
[3:08:41] HAVE CONVERSATIONS TO WEIGH IN.
[3:08:43] UM, SO THAT SORT.
[3:08:44] OF.
[3:08:44] LIKE WE SORT OF IDENTIFY THINGS
[3:08:45] IN THOSE DIRECTIONS.
[3:08:47] I APPRECIATE THE.
[3:08:48] UM I WAS EVEN.
[3:08:49] THINKING HERE WHILE YOU YOU
[3:08:52] GUYS WERE GIVING THE
[3:08:53] PRESENTATION IS THERE'S SO.
[3:08:55] MUCH THAT YOU DO IS.
[3:08:56] OVERLAP OVERLAPS WITH WHAT.
[3:08:58] HOUSING IS DOING WITH WHAT THE.
[3:09:00] PLANNING DEPARTMENT HONESTLY IS
[3:09:01] DOING.
[3:09:01] AND I THINK THAT TO A CERTAIN
[3:09:03] EXTENT EVEN THE PLANNING
[3:09:05] DEPARTMENT CAN USE.
[3:09:07] SOMEONE WITH THIS.
[3:09:08] MINDSET INSIDE OF.
[3:09:09] THEIR POLICY.
[3:09:09] AREA SO THAT THIS PART OF THIS
[3:09:12] CONVERSATION ISN'T.
[3:09:13] REACTIVE AFTER SOMETHING IS
[3:09:14] PROPOSED.
[3:09:15] IF NOT, IT'S PART.
[3:09:16] OF THE POLICY.
[3:09:17] PLANNING UM, FROM SOMEONE LIKE
[3:09:18] THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WHERE
[3:09:20] IT'S JUST PART OF THE THE
[3:09:22] FRAMEWORK THAT WE'RE GOING TO
[3:09:23] SEE.
[3:09:24] SO UM, I YOU KNOW, UM I
[3:09:27] HESITATE TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
[3:09:28] UH, BUT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
[3:09:30] IN PARTICULAR.
[3:09:30] UH.
[3:09:31] DOES HAVE UM.
[3:09:32] UH SEVERAL.
[3:09:33] STAFF MEMBERS WHO.
[3:09:34] ARE CHARGED WITH PAYING
[3:09:35] ATTENTION TO SUCH THINGS.
[3:09:37] UM, AND SO UH, I'LL LEAVE
[3:09:38] ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN THE
[3:09:39] STRUCTURE BUT UM.
[3:09:40] THERE UH.
[3:09:41] THEY HAVE.
[3:09:42] UH.
[3:09:43] SENIOR ADVISOR.
[3:09:44] UM.
[3:09:45] .
[3:09:45] WHO.
[3:09:45] PAYS ATTENTION TO CERTAIN.
[3:09:46] THINGS FAIR.
[3:09:47] HOUSING INCLUDED.
[3:09:48] UM AND UH SEVERAL MEMBERS OF A
[3:09:51] .
[3:09:52] UM DIVERSITY EQUITY INCLUSION
[3:09:53] TEAM THAT INCLUDES UM SOMEONE
[3:09:55] PAYING ATTENTION TO LANGUAGE
[3:09:56] ACCESS.
[3:09:56] IN PARTICULAR.
[3:09:56] OKAY.
[3:09:57] SOUNDS LIKE.
[3:09:58] WE'LL FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION
[3:10:00] WOULD BE HELPFUL.
[3:10:01] UM, OKAY.
[3:10:01] THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR.
[3:10:03] QUESTIONS I KNOW THAT.
[3:10:05] DEFINITELY CULPEPER HAS A
[3:10:06] FOLLOW UP.
[3:10:07] QUESTION COUNCILOR WORRELL.
[3:10:08] DO YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP
[3:10:09] QUESTION?
[3:10:09] OKAY I'M GOING TO GIVE THEM
[3:10:10] EACH THREE MINUTES.
[3:10:11] AND THEN COUNCIL.
[3:10:12] WITH HIM.
[3:10:13] AND COUNCIL VISION.
[3:10:14] YES OKAY COUNSELOR MORRELL
[3:10:17] THREE MINUTES.
[3:10:18] UH THANK YOU CHAIR.
[3:10:19] AND WHEN IT COMES TO COMPLAINT
[3:10:21] UH, DO OUR COMPLAINTS AT THE
[3:10:22] FAIR HOUSING RECEIVED
[3:10:24] AUTOMATICALLY GO TO ANY OTHER
[3:10:26] AGENCY.
[3:10:28] OR LIKE THE AG'S OFFICE OR
[3:10:31] MCAD?
[3:10:32] NO NOT.
[3:10:32] AUTOMATICALLY IF WE.
[3:10:34] YOU KNOW, ONCE THE.
[3:10:34] PERSON WALKS TO THE DOOR WE TRY
[3:10:36] TO ESTABLISH JURISDICTION.
[3:10:37] UM, AND.
[3:10:38] IF.
[3:10:38] WE HAVE.
[3:10:39] JURISDICTION, UM, THEN WE
[3:10:40] TAKE ON THE CASE AND WE JUST
[3:10:41] SORT OF WORK THROUGH.
[3:10:42] THE PROCESS.
[3:10:42] THEN THEY MAY ELECT.
[3:10:45] DEPENDING ON WHAT THE RESULT IS
[3:10:47] OF THE OF.
[3:10:47] OF THE CASE THEY MAY ELECT
[3:10:49] ANOTHER.
[3:10:51] ADJUDICATION PIECE UM IN THAT
[3:10:54] IN UM AND THEN.
[3:10:55] WE WOULD WE WOULD TRY TO
[3:10:56] SUPPORT THAT BUT BUT UM BUT FOR
[3:10:59] THE MOST PART IF WE CAN
[3:11:00] ESTABLISH JURISDICTION THAT WE
[3:11:01] TAKE ON THE CASE AND WE TRY TO
[3:11:02] TRY.
[3:11:03] TO FIND UM.
[3:11:05] JUSTICE FOR THE.
[3:11:07] FOR THE FOR THE COMPLAINT.
[3:11:07] ALL RIGHT.
[3:11:08] UM.
[3:11:09] WE'LL HAVE TO SEE IF WE CAN
[3:11:11] ESTABLISH LIKE A MOU WITH, YOU
[3:11:13] KNOW, THE STATE AGENCIES TO SEE
[3:11:14] IF WE CAN.
[3:11:16] STREAMLINE JUST SO THAT THE
[3:11:17] INDIVIDUALS COMING IN DOESN'T
[3:11:18] HAVE TO FILL OUT, UM,
[3:11:20] ADDITIONAL PAPERWORK TO FILE
[3:11:21] THE SAME COMPLAINT.
[3:11:23] UH, ANOTHER.
[3:11:23] QUESTION I HAVE IS WHEN IT
[3:11:25] COMES.
[3:11:25] TO WE.
[3:11:25] HEARD THE COMMUNITY
[3:11:26] PANELISTS TALK.
[3:11:27] ABOUT THE EQUITY STUDY.
[3:11:29] UM, WE WE ALSO HEARD THEM THAT
[3:11:31] OTHER CITIES HAVE USED THE
[3:11:32] EQUITY STUDY TO, UH, DEFEND
[3:11:34] THEIR STRATEGIES.
[3:11:36] UH, KEEP AN EYE AN UPDATE AND A
[3:11:39] STATUS ON.
[3:11:40] UH, THE.
[3:11:40] 2025 EQUITY STUDY.
[3:11:43] SO.
[3:11:43] UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE.
[3:11:45] REFERRING TO IS.
[3:11:46] THE, UM, AFFIRMATIVELY
[3:11:47] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING UH,
[3:11:49] REVIEW.
[3:11:50] UM.
[3:11:51] I THINK THAT'S WHAT.
[3:11:52] I MEAN WHEN WE HAVE SEVERAL.
[3:11:54] EQUITY STUDIES.
[3:11:54] GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.
[3:11:55] OKAY.
[3:11:56] YOU'RE AWARE RIGHT, LIKE THE
[3:11:57] BLACK MALE.
[3:11:58] ADVANCEMENT RIGHTS.
[3:11:59] AND UM.
[3:12:00] SO I.
[3:12:01] THINK WHAT WE WANT.
[3:12:02] TO MAKE.
[3:12:02] CLEAR IS THAT.
[3:12:03] UM, THE CITY IS.
[3:12:05] CONTINUING TO ACTIVELY ADVANCE
[3:12:06] OUR FAIR HOUSING AGENDA.
[3:12:08] THE ACTIONS THAT, UH, ARE.
[3:12:11] BEING CONSIDERED BY.
[3:12:12] THAT STUDY ARE.
[3:12:14] ALL STILL HAPPENING, RIGHT?
[3:12:15] WHAT IS.
[3:12:16] UH WHAT.
[3:12:18] IS UM.
[3:12:19] BEING UM, PAUSED FOR NOW UH IS
[3:12:24] THE UH IS THE CONTINUING OF.
[3:12:26] THE THE.
[3:12:27] STUDY ITSELF?
[3:12:28] UM BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW.
[3:12:30] UH.
[3:12:31] LAST DECEMBER, UM, AFTER AN
[3:12:36] INCREDIBLE AMOUNT
[3:12:37] OF PARTNERSHIP, HUD ANNOUNCED A
[3:12:38] HOSTILE INVESTIGATION TO.
[3:12:39] OUR WORK.
[3:12:40] UM, AND THAT THREATENS OUR
[3:12:41] FEDERAL FUNDING.
[3:12:43] UM, SO WE ARE CONTINUING TO
[3:12:45] ADVANCE THE WORK.
[3:12:46] UM, BUT HAVE DECIDED TO.
[3:12:48] PAUSE THAT FOR NOW.
[3:12:49] UM, AND ARE TAKING MEASURES TO,
[3:12:52] UM, BE READY TO RESUME UM,
[3:12:54] SORT.
[3:12:55] OF.
[3:12:55] IMMEDIATELY, UH, WHEN WE'RE
[3:12:56] READY TO.
[3:12:58] ALL RIGHT.
[3:12:59] ONE LAST QUESTION.
[3:13:00] UM.
[3:13:03] WHEN IT COMES TO AND I HAVE
[3:13:04] LIKE A.
[3:13:05] LIST OF QUESTIONS UM, AND
[3:13:06] SUBMIT TO THE CHAIR TO SEE IF
[3:13:07] WE CAN GET BACK IN WRITING.
[3:13:08] UM.
[3:13:09] BUT.
[3:13:09] WHEN IT COMES TO.
[3:13:12] EVICTIONS, DO DO WE HOW DO YOU
[3:13:16] WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF HOUSING
[3:13:18] INSTABILITY?
[3:13:19] I KIND OF I KNOW WE ALWAYS TALK
[3:13:20] ABOUT ACCESS BUT ALSO WHEN IT
[3:13:22] COMES TO EVICTIONS, UH,
[3:13:23] STABILIZING AND KEEPING PEOPLE
[3:13:24] AT HOME.
[3:13:25] HOW DO WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE?
[3:13:27] HOW DO YOU WORK WITH THE OFFICE
[3:13:29] OF HOUSING STABILITY TO
[3:13:30] IDENTIFY ANY CORPORATE
[3:13:32] LANDLORDS WHO HAVE A HABIT
[3:13:36] OF EVICTING, UM, THOSE THAT ARE
[3:13:38] IN SIDE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING?
[3:13:40] I BELIEVE WE HEARD FROM THE
[3:13:42] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UH, DANIEL
[3:13:44] JOHNSON, UH, ABOUT THE HIGH
[3:13:46] RATE OF THOSE THAT ARE IN
[3:13:48] AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT ARE
[3:13:49] EXPERIENCING EVICTIONS.
[3:13:50] SO JUST KIND OF WANT TO HEAR
[3:13:52] YOUR THOUGHTS AROUND THAT.
[3:13:54] AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION
[3:13:57] SORRY CHAIR IS I KNOW THERE'S
[3:13:58] AN ANNUAL REPORT UM, THROUGH
[3:14:01] THE ORDINANCE THAT THE OFFICE
[3:14:03] IS SUPPOSED TO PRODUCE AROUND
[3:14:05] HOW FEAR HOUSING IMPACTS.
[3:14:08] MARGINALIZED GROUPS.
[3:14:09] WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT WAS
[3:14:11] UM REPORTED OUT AND IF IT
[3:14:13] HASN'T BEEN IN A WHILE, WHEN
[3:14:14] CAN.
[3:14:15] WE.
[3:14:15] EXPECT THE DEPARTMENT TO COME
[3:14:17] IN WITHIN COMPLIANCE?
[3:14:19] THE LAST QUESTION I WOULD SAY
[3:14:21] WHAT PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE
[3:14:23] IS TO PROVIDE THE REPORT.
[3:14:25] WE CAN WE CAN PROVIDE THE
[3:14:26] REPORT UM.
[3:14:28] ,PROBABLY MAKES MORE SENSE TO
[3:14:29] PROVIDE.
[3:14:30] IT UH, MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO
[3:14:32] .
[3:14:32] BEFORE UH.
[3:14:33] HOUSING MONTH WHICH.
[3:14:35] IS.
[3:14:35] IN APRIL UM OR PROVIDED IN
[3:14:38] APRIL I WOULD I WOULD RECOMMEND
[3:14:40] THAT UM.
[3:14:43] THE YOUR.
[3:14:45] QUESTIONS AROUND.
[3:14:46] OUR.
[3:14:47] RELATIONSHIP WITH HOUSING
[3:14:47] STABILITY AND EVICTIONS.
[3:14:50] UM WE DO TALK WITH THEM FROM
[3:14:51] TIME.
[3:14:52] TO TIME BUT BUT I DON'T THINK
[3:14:53] WE HAVE UH, A SPACE WHERE
[3:14:56] WE'RE.
[3:14:57] TALKING UM OR EXPLORING.
[3:14:59] OR.
[3:15:00] EVALUATING WHAT YOUR QUESTION
[3:15:01] IS.
[3:15:01] UM, I'D BE OPEN TO DOING THAT
[3:15:03] WITH HOUSING STABILITY.
[3:15:04] UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW,
[3:15:05] PREVENTION IS.
[3:15:06] PROBABLY THE BEST ROUTE TO TAKE
[3:15:08] .
[3:15:08] UM, ANYTHING.
[3:15:09] THAT WE CAN DO TO TO KEEP
[3:15:10] FOLKS IN TO.
[3:15:11] HOMES UM, ANYTIME WE CAN.
[3:15:13] ASSERT OUR.
[3:15:15] ENFORCEMENT ABILITIES AND BEST
[3:15:16] ABILITIES.
[3:15:18] UM, TO HELP SOMEONE GOING
[3:15:19] THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I WOULD.
[3:15:20] IMPLORE THAT.
[3:15:21] SO.
[3:15:22] UM.
[3:15:24] UH, I THINK IT'S DANIEL
[3:15:25] JOHNSON.
[3:15:26] I THINK SHE'S OVER AT HOUSING
[3:15:27] STABILITY.
[3:15:27] I THINK IT.
[3:15:28] WARRANTS A CONVERSATION.
[3:15:31] UM, UM.
[3:15:33] BUT AS FAR.
[3:15:33] AS I KNOW THERE'S WE'RE NOT
[3:15:35] ACTIVELY.
[3:15:38] TALKING TO THEM ABOUT.
[3:15:39] THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC.
[3:15:40] AT LEAST I'M NOT.
[3:15:41] OKAY.
[3:15:42] THANKS.
[3:15:43] OKAY.
[3:15:43] THANK YOU.
[3:15:44] AND I'LL MAKE SURE I SUBMIT
[3:15:45] THOSE.
[3:15:46] QUESTIONS TO COMMITTEE OKAY.
[3:15:48] COUNSELOR CULPEPER THANK YOU,
[3:15:50] MR CHAIR.
[3:15:51] MR LEE, I WON'T GO THROUGH THE
[3:15:53] REST OF THOSE, UH, CALLS.
[3:15:56] WHAT I'LL DO IS, UH, I'LL
[3:15:59] SUBMIT THE QUESTIONS TO THE
[3:16:00] CHAIR AND HE CAN SUBMIT THE
[3:16:03] REST OF THE.
[3:16:03] QUESTIONS TO YOU SO YOU CAN, UH
[3:16:06] ,PROVIDE THE DATA THAT YOU
[3:16:07] HAVE.
[3:16:08] UM, WHATEVER IT IS, YOU DON'T
[3:16:11] HAVE TO TRY AND LOOK THROUGH
[3:16:12] YOUR NOTES IN AND GOT A COUPLE
[3:16:15] OF QUESTIONS WITH REGARD TO THE
[3:16:17] OPERATION OF THE FAIR HOUSING
[3:16:19] OFFICE IN 2025.
[3:16:21] HOW MANY COMPLAINTS DID.
[3:16:22] YOU GET?
[3:16:26] UH HOW.
[3:16:27] MANY COMPLAINTS THAT WE GOT?
[3:16:28] UM.
[3:16:29] ,I DON'T KNOW.
[3:16:30] THAT'S THAT'S.
[3:16:31] A GOOD QUESTION.
[3:16:32] 25 I'D SAY.
[3:16:34] I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T KNOW, I
[3:16:36] DON'T GUESS.
[3:16:36] YEAH OKAY, I.
[3:16:37] WILL JUST.
[3:16:38] I CAN GET YOUR.
[3:16:39] ESTIMATION THOUGH QUICK.
[3:16:39] WHEN YOU YEAH WHEN YOU GET
[3:16:41] BACK.
[3:16:41] PROVIDE THE INFORMATION WE CAN
[3:16:42] AND UH, MR LEE YOU MENTIONED
[3:16:45] THAT MORE MONEY WAS BEING ADDED
[3:16:48] TO THE TESTING PROGRAM.
[3:16:50] I KNOW THE COUNCIL ADDED TO OUR
[3:16:52] FISCAL 27.
[3:16:54] BUDGET AN ADDITIONAL $100,000.
[3:16:57] HOW MUCH MORE?
[3:17:00] ARE YOU ADDING?
[3:17:02] AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED
[3:17:03] EARLIER THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED
[3:17:04] THAT YOU'RE ADDING MORE HOW
[3:17:06] MUCH MORE YOU'RE ADDING TO THE.
[3:17:08] CURRENT TESTING PROGRAM THAT
[3:17:10] YOU'RE ABOUT TO UH, ISSUE AN
[3:17:13] RFP FOR?
[3:17:14] I'D HAVE TO CHECK BUT I THINK
[3:17:16] IT'S AROUND 200,000.
[3:17:18] ABOUT 200,000 IN ADDITION
[3:17:19] TO.
[3:17:19] THE CORRECT MONEY THAT WAS
[3:17:21] ALREADY THERE.
[3:17:22] YES.
[3:17:22] OKAY.
[3:17:23] AND WITH REGARD TO THE SECTION
[3:17:27] EIGHT PROGRAM AND AND THE UH
[3:17:30] 2020 STUDY, UH, I WANT TO ASK A
[3:17:33] COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT
[3:17:35] GHOSTING.
[3:17:36] UM, BECAUSE IN THAT STUDY THEY
[3:17:38] FOUND THAT 42% OF THE TIME THE
[3:17:45] UM 42% OF THE PEOPLE OF THE
[3:17:48] FOLKS HAD UM ACTUALLY UH HAD
[3:17:52] VOUCHERS WERE GHOSTED VERSUS
[3:17:56] 10%.
[3:17:57] FOR THE.
[3:17:58] NON VOUCHER TESTERS.
[3:17:59] HOW DO YOU DETERMINE THAT?
[3:18:01] AND WHEN SOMEONE.
[3:18:03] REFUSES TO.
[3:18:04] RESPOND TO.
[3:18:05] A SECTION EIGHT.
[3:18:07] UH APPLICANT.
[3:18:08] HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHETHER
[3:18:10] THAT.
[3:18:10] THAT GHOSTING IS A.
[3:18:12] VIOLATION OR IT'S JUST.
[3:18:13] SOMEONE THAT MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN
[3:18:16] TO GET BACK TO THAT PERSON?
[3:18:19] UM SO SO.
[3:18:21] I YOU'RE.
[3:18:21] REFERRING TO THE STUDY FROM
[3:18:22] THE.
[3:18:23] BUS FOUNDATION UNIVERSE.
[3:18:24] A.
[3:18:24] 2020 STUDY.
[3:18:25] THE, UH, QUALIFIED WINNERS
[3:18:26] NEED.
[3:18:27] NOT APPLY.
[3:18:27] STUDY SO.
[3:18:28] SO FOR THE.
[3:18:29] FOR SO FOR YOUR FIRST.
[3:18:30] QUESTION I WOULD HAVE TO DEFER.
[3:18:32] TO THE RESEARCHERS ABOUT.
[3:18:34] THEIR METHODOLOGY.
[3:18:34] UM, AND.
[3:18:35] WHAT ABOUT DUANE DUANE.
[3:18:36] DUANE ANSWER THE SECOND
[3:18:38] QUESTION.
[3:18:38] YEAH YEAH I THINK I.
[3:18:39] THINK HOW DO YOU INVESTIGATE
[3:18:41] CASES WHERE THE LANDLORD BROKER
[3:18:44] NEVER EXPLICITLY RESPONDED TO
[3:18:46] SOMEONE THAT APPLIED IT?
[3:18:48] IT WOULD COME THROUGH THE
[3:18:50] INVESTIGATIVE.
[3:18:50] PROCESS THAT WE HAVE.
[3:18:51] SO SO LET'S BACK UP FOR A
[3:18:54] SECOND SO THAT.
[3:18:56] THE THE VOUCHER.
[3:18:57] FIRST HAS.
[3:18:58] TO KNOW WHAT THAT.
[3:19:00] DISCRIMINATION PIECE LOOKS LIKE
[3:19:01] RIGHT.
[3:19:02] AND THEN THEY HAVE TO.
[3:19:04] HAVE THEY HAVE TO COME IN TO
[3:19:06] THE OFFICE.
[3:19:07] AND FILE.
[3:19:07] BUT THAT'S PART OF THE.
[3:19:08] PROBLEM THAT THAT THEY DON'T.
[3:19:09] THEY DON'T.
[3:19:10] SO.
[3:19:11] YEAH SO AND I TOTALLY AGREE
[3:19:12] WITH YOU SO SO SO.
[3:19:14] SO OUR OFFICE HAS TO BE MORE
[3:19:16] INTENTIONAL AROUND PROVIDING
[3:19:18] SUPPORT.
[3:19:19] TO VOUCHER HOLDERS.
[3:19:19] AND HELPING THEM TO UNDERSTAND
[3:19:21] WHAT.
[3:19:22] DISCRIMINATION LOOKS LIKE.
[3:19:24] AND ONE OF THE CHALLENGES.
[3:19:26] THAT WE HAVE IS UM.
[3:19:28] WE GOT TO.
[3:19:28] DO A BETTER JOB AT IT,
[3:19:29] RIGHT?
[3:19:30] UM, UM.
[3:19:31] WE'RE TOUCHING A LOT OF PEOPLE.
[3:19:33] WE'RE DOING A.
[3:19:34] LOT OF OUTREACH BUT PEOPLE.
[3:19:34] STILL DON'T.
[3:19:35] UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHAT
[3:19:36] THEY DON'T THEY DON'T.
[3:19:37] FULLY UNDERSTAND THEIR THEIR.
[3:19:38] RIGHTS AND THEY DON'T
[3:19:40] UNDERSTAND WHAT.
[3:19:41] DISCRIMINATION LOOKS LIKE.
[3:19:42] SO NO QUESTION UM, HAS YOUR
[3:19:44] OFFICE INVESTIGATED ANY
[3:19:46] GHOSTING CASES AND MADE A
[3:19:48] FINDING A FINDING THAT THERE
[3:19:51] WAS GHOSTING IN A CASE?
[3:19:55] AS YOU FRAME IT I DON'T I DON'T
[3:19:57] I DON'T.
[3:19:57] THINK SO BUT BUT I CAN.
[3:19:58] LOOK AT THE.
[3:19:59] SOURCE OF INCOME.
[3:20:01] COMPLAINTS THAT WE HAVE ON FILE
[3:20:04] TO SEE.
[3:20:04] IF THAT APPLIES.
[3:20:06] OKAY.
[3:20:07] AND I'LL SUBMIT THE I'VE GOT
[3:20:09] A ON A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS
[3:20:11] AROUND GHOSTING BUT I'LL SUBMIT
[3:20:13] THEM TO UH TO THE CHAIR OKAY.
[3:20:17] UM GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO
[3:20:19] GO BACK AND ACTUALLY LOOK AND.
[3:20:21] TALK TO THE.
[3:20:22] INVESTIGATORS ABOUT GHOSTING
[3:20:23] BECAUSE.
[3:20:24] IT'S.
[3:20:24] IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE
[3:20:27] OF SECTION EIGHT DISCRIMINATION
[3:20:29] THAT'S NOT INVESTIGATED.
[3:20:31] VERY MUCH BECAUSE IT'S VERY
[3:20:33] DIFFICULT, UM, TO MAKE A
[3:20:35] FINDING.
[3:20:36] THAT GHOSTING.
[3:20:37] WAS INVOLVED IN A CASE I
[3:20:38] SUBMIT THE CLOSEST TO.
[3:20:39] YES.
[3:20:40] THANK YOU.
[3:20:40] THANK YOU VERY WELL.
[3:20:42] MR CHAIR MAY.
[3:20:42] SAY THAT, UM, MY COLLEAGUE IS
[3:20:44] BEING INCREDIBLY MODEST.
[3:20:45] ABOUT HIS PUBLIC.
[3:20:46] EDUCATION EFFORTS.
[3:20:47] UM, LAST YEAR HE QUADRUPLED.
[3:20:49] THE TARGET.
[3:20:50] WELL.
[3:20:51] HE SORT OF GLOSSED OVER THAT
[3:20:53] EARLIER.
[3:20:53] THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
[3:20:54] THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
[3:20:55] ON THAT.
[3:20:56] THANK YOU.
[3:20:57] YOU'RE WELCOME.
[3:20:58] MR LEE AND.
[3:21:00] MR WATTS.
[3:21:00] YEAH.
[3:21:01] OKAY.
[3:21:03] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE UH, I HOPE I.
[3:21:05] I DON'T THINK YOU IT I.
[3:21:09] I HAD A QUESTION REGARDING UM
[3:21:11] THE LIKE THE FEDERAL NATURE
[3:21:13] OF THE CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW.
[3:21:15] UM, AND THERE'S A LOT OF IMPACT
[3:21:17] ON THE WORK BUT I THINK YOU
[3:21:18] ANSWERED YOU ANSWERED THAT UM,
[3:21:21] I KNOW IT IS INCREDIBLY
[3:21:23] CHALLENGING TO DO THIS WORK AND
[3:21:26] FACING ALL OF THESE HEADWINDS.
[3:21:27] UH, I WAS NAMED IN THE
[3:21:30] INVESTIGATION AND IN THE
[3:21:30] LAWSUIT, UH, FOR THE WORK THAT
[3:21:32] WE'RE TRYING TO DO AROUND
[3:21:33] FURTHERING FAIR HOUSING IN THE
[3:21:34] WORK THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO TO
[3:21:35] MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GIVING
[3:21:37] PEOPLE INCLUSIVE OPPORTUNITIES
[3:21:38] .
[3:21:39] UM, AND STILL I THINK THAT
[3:21:40] THERE ARE UM UH, EVEN TO WHAT
[3:21:42] COUNCILOR CULPEPER WAS TALKING
[3:21:43] ABOUT THE GHOSTING THAT
[3:21:44] HAPPENS.
[3:21:44] RIGHT.
[3:21:45] LIKE SHOWING THE IMPORTANCE
[3:21:46] OF THAT'S WHY YOU NEED PEER
[3:21:47] TESTING IS LIKE AND THAT'S WHY
[3:21:49] THAT'S THE GOLD STANDARD.
[3:21:50] AND SO I'M WONDERING I THINK
[3:21:52] COUNCILOR WEBER DID ASK THE
[3:21:53] QUESTION ABOUT UM LIKE THE WHO
[3:21:57] IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE
[3:21:59] RESEARCH AND THE PEER TESTING
[3:22:00] SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE SUFFOLK
[3:22:01] UNIVERSITY, UH, THE FAIR
[3:22:03] HOUSING CENTER OF GREATER
[3:22:04] BOSTON.
[3:22:05] UH, WHO ARE ARE LIKE
[3:22:06] TRADITIONAL PARTNERS IN THIS
[3:22:08] WORK SO WE CAN WRITE OUT THE
[3:22:09] THINGS LIKE I MEAN I THINK IT'S
[3:22:12] REALLY VOUCHER DISCRIMINATION I
[3:22:14] THINK IS PROBABLY THE HARDEST
[3:22:15] BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE FACING SO
[3:22:18] MUCH PRESSURE AND VULNERABILITY
[3:22:19] IN THEIR PURSUIT OF BUT I
[3:22:21] THINK, YOU KNOW, WITH THE
[3:22:22] QUADRUPLING THAT HAS ALREADY
[3:22:23] HAPPENED UH, WHO ARE WHO DO YOU
[3:22:26] SEE AS OUR PARTNERS AND ABLE TO
[3:22:27] BECAUSE LIKE THE CITY OF BOSTON
[3:22:28] ALONE CAN'T DO IT.
[3:22:29] SO WHO ARE OUR PARTNERS IN THIS
[3:22:30] WORK?
[3:22:32] I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, IN
[3:22:34] ADDITION TO THE TWO AGENCIES
[3:22:35] THAT YOU MENTIONED, I WOULD
[3:22:36] ALSO INCLUDE ACE IN THAT
[3:22:38] CONVERSATION AS WELL.
[3:22:40] UM, UH.
[3:22:42] I'D PROBABLY INCLUDE UH, URBAN
[3:22:44] LEAGUE IN THAT CONVERSATION.
[3:22:47] UH, BUT UM.
[3:22:52] ANY ANY ORGANIZATION THAT
[3:22:53] TOUCHES.
[3:22:54] ARE.
[3:22:54] PROTECTED CLASSES.
[3:22:55] GREAT.
[3:22:56] SO SO WHETHER IT'S DISABILITY
[3:22:58] OR FAMILIAL STATUS.
[3:23:00] OR UM, GENDER LGBTQ SAID ANY
[3:23:03] AGENCY THAT ANY AGENCY THAT
[3:23:05] TOUCHES UH, PROTECTED CLASSES
[3:23:07] CAN BE CAN WE CAN WORK WITH US
[3:23:10] IN COLLABORATION.
[3:23:12] UM AND WE CAN WE CAN GET THE
[3:23:14] OUTCOMES THAT WE WANT.
[3:23:15] UM.
[3:23:16] UH, THROUGH THAT
[3:23:17] COLLABORATION AND AND AS I
[3:23:19] MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S A.
[3:23:22] WE HAVE TO WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH
[3:23:25] TAP INTO STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE
[3:23:27] TRUSTED RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE
[3:23:30] WITH THE WITH THE CONSTITUENTS
[3:23:31] THAT WE WANT TO THAT WE WANT TO
[3:23:33] THAT WE WANT TO HELP.
[3:23:33] YEAH.
[3:23:34] AND I THINK THERE'S A
[3:23:35] GREATER ROLE FOR BOTH HERE WHEN
[3:23:37] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT VOUCHER
[3:23:38] DISCRIMINATION AND THEY HAVE A
[3:23:40] WHOLE OFFICE THAT I THINK CAN
[3:23:41] YOU KNOW THAT THAT DOES IS
[3:23:43] WORKING CAN CAN CAN LEAN IN
[3:23:44] MORE.
[3:23:44] YEAH.
[3:23:45] SO I SEE THE CHAIR STARING
[3:23:47] AT ME.
[3:23:47] MY QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT
[3:23:48] LIKE IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THE
[3:23:50] HEADWINDS OF WITH THE FEDERAL
[3:23:51] CHALLENGES AND UH UH AN
[3:23:55] ADMINISTRATION THAT OFTEN
[3:23:55] PROVES ITSELF TO BE DOING
[3:23:57] ANYTHING ANYTHING THAT'S THE
[3:23:58] OPPOSITE OF UH EQUITY AND UM
[3:24:01] AND DISPLACEMENT.
[3:24:02] SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR
[3:24:03] THE WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE YOU
[3:24:04] ALL ARE DOING FACING INCREDIBLY
[3:24:07] CHALLENGING HEADWINDS ON THE
[3:24:08] FEDERAL LEVEL.
[3:24:08] YEAH.
[3:24:09] I'M THINKING.
[3:24:09] AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE
[3:24:11] MORE COMMENT AND THEN ALSO I
[3:24:13] THINK WE HAVE TO DO A BETTER
[3:24:14] JOB IN MAXIMIZING THE
[3:24:15] RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE HAVE IN
[3:24:16] HOUSE.
[3:24:17] OUR CABINET.
[3:24:18] TOUCHES A LOT OF FOLKS THAT
[3:24:20] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT LGBTQ
[3:24:22] TO SAY UH, DISABILITY FOLKS UM
[3:24:26] ,BLACK MALE ADVANCEMENT
[3:24:28] WOMEN'S ADVANCEMENT LKE TO TO
[3:24:30] MAKE WHICH JUSTICE IS ALSO
[3:24:31] IMPORTANT.
[3:24:33] UM AND WE'RE GOING TO
[3:24:34] ADVANCEMENT.
[3:24:36] SO SO I THINK.
[3:24:39] UM AS A AS A AS A CABINET I
[3:24:41] THINK WE NEED TO LOOK OR
[3:24:42] EXPLORE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR
[3:24:43] US TO TO TO WORK TOGETHER.
[3:24:46] UM.
[3:24:47] AND MAXIMIZE UM THE
[3:24:49] OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE
[3:24:50] BECAUSE BECAUSE BECAUSE WE'RE
[3:24:51] ON THE GROUND HEARING
[3:24:52] COMPLAINTS EVERY SINGLE DAY.
[3:24:54] UM AND THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT
[3:24:55] THAT COMES IN IS HOUSING.
[3:24:57] SO SO AND I THINK YOU KNOW,
[3:24:59] LIKE YOU SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW,
[3:25:00] SOME OF US ARE WORKING IN
[3:25:01] SILOS.
[3:25:02] WE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB
[3:25:03] OF BREAKING DOWN THOSE SILOS
[3:25:04] AND AND AND FINDING
[3:25:06] OPPORTUNITIES TO UH, CREATE
[3:25:09] OPPORTUNITIES TO TO TO HELP
[3:25:10] THESE RESIDENTS THAT ARE THAT
[3:25:12] ARE SUFFERING.
[3:25:15] THANK YOU.
[3:25:17] OKAY.
[3:25:18] UM.
[3:25:19] TO ALL THE COUNCILORS THAT HAVE
[3:25:20] ANY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS, MAKE
[3:25:21] SURE TO SUBMIT THEM TO ME AND
[3:25:23] I'LL TO GIVE THAT OVER TO THE.
[3:25:25] ADMINISTRATION AN EXAMPLE.
[3:25:28] OKAY.
[3:25:30] NOW IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC
[3:25:33] TESTIMONY.
[3:25:33] HERE I HAVE A LIST.
[3:25:35] I HAVE A.
[3:25:36] STEPHANIE WILLIAMS.
[3:25:37] AND I HAVE A T LAWRENCE WHERE
[3:25:40] UM YOU MAY PROCEED TO THE
[3:25:42] MICROPHONE.
[3:25:44] I'M GONNA GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES.
[3:26:00] GOOD AFTERNOON.
[3:26:01] COUNCIL MEMBERS OF THE
[3:26:02] COMMITTEE, COMMUNITY MEMBERS
[3:26:03] AND MY CEC MEMBERS.
[3:26:05] THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO,
[3:26:07] UM, TESTIFY TODAY.
[3:26:08] MY NAME IS STEPHANIE WILLIAMS
[3:26:09] AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF
[3:26:11] OF ACE, WHICH IS THE
[3:26:12] ALTERNATIVE COMMUNITY AND
[3:26:13] ENVIRONMENT INC., UH, ROXBURY
[3:26:16] BASED ORGANIZATION WHICH I
[3:26:17] SERVE AS A DEPUTY DIRECTOR.
[3:26:21] UM, I BRING ABOUT 25.
[3:26:23] YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.
[3:26:24] IN HOUSING ADVOCACY.
[3:26:26] UM, TO THIS TO TO TO ACE.
[3:26:30] UH, AND THIS THIS STEMS FROM MY
[3:26:32] WORK AT JBL'S UM WORKING IN THE
[3:26:34] HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS UNIT
[3:26:36] AS A PARALEGAL YEARS AGO AND
[3:26:37] THEN ALSO WORKING UM AT THE
[3:26:40] GREATER BOSTON.
[3:26:41] THE FAILED SORT OF GREATER
[3:26:42] BOSTON.
[3:26:42] UM.
[3:26:43] AS A TESTING COORDINATOR AND
[3:26:45] THERE AT THE FAIR HOUSING
[3:26:46] CENTER GREATER BOSTON, WHICH
[3:26:47] WAS A UH ORGANIZATION WE.
[3:26:50] WE HAD A PILOT PROGRAM WHERE WE
[3:26:52] PROVIDED TESTING, TRAINING,
[3:26:54] EDUCATION, COMMUNITY OUTREACH,
[3:26:56] COMMUNITY OUTREACH, CASE
[3:26:58] ADVOCACY, POLICY ADVOCACY AND
[3:27:00] RESEARCH AND ENFORCEMENT
[3:27:02] EFFORTS AS A SMALL TEAM.
[3:27:06] ACE IS PREPARING TO LAUNCH A
[3:27:07] NEW FAIR HOUSING PROGRAM
[3:27:09] SERVING GREATER ROXBURY WITH
[3:27:11] SUPPORT FROM THE COMMONWEALTH
[3:27:12] GRANT.
[3:27:14] THE PROGRAM WILL PROVIDE FAIR
[3:27:16] HOUSING, EDUCATION, COMMUNITY
[3:27:18] OUTREACH, TESTING AND
[3:27:20] ENFORCEMENT REFERRALS.
[3:27:23] OUR GOAL IS TO HELP RESIDENTS
[3:27:25] UNDERSTAND THEIR RIGHTS,
[3:27:27] IDENTIFY POTENTIAL
[3:27:29] DISCRIMINATION AND CONNECT THEM
[3:27:30] WITH THE APPROPRIATE LEGAL AND
[3:27:32] ENFORCEMENT RESOURCES.
[3:27:34] WE WANT TO WORK COLLABORATIVELY
[3:27:35] WITH THE CITY AND OTHER.
[3:27:37] COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS.
[3:27:38] ON FAIR HOUSING, EDUCATION,
[3:27:39] OUTREACH, REFERRALS, TESTAMENT
[3:27:41] AND ENFORCEMENT.
[3:27:43] COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS SHOULD
[3:27:44] NOT HAVE TO NAVIGATE THE FAIR
[3:27:46] HOUSING THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING
[3:27:48] SYSTEM ON THEIR OWN.
[3:27:49] WE NEED A CLEAR AND ACCESSIBLE
[3:27:51] CONNECTION BETWEEN RESIDENTS,
[3:27:53] COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS AND THE
[3:27:54] CITY'S FAIR HOUSING
[3:27:55] INFRASTRUCTURE.
[3:27:57] WE ALSO ENCOURAGE THE
[3:27:58] COUNCIL TO EXAMINE THE CAPACITY
[3:28:00] AND RESOURCES OF THE OFFICE
[3:28:01] OF FAIR HOUSING AND EQUITY AND
[3:28:03] WHETHER THE CITY HAS AN
[3:28:04] INFRASTRUCTURE INFRASTRUCTURE
[3:28:06] NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO
[3:28:08] COMPLAINTS, COORDINATING
[3:28:09] REFERRALS AND FOLLOW THROUGH ON
[3:28:11] THEIR ENFORCEMENT.
[3:28:12] THE HOUSE IS NOT SIMPLY A
[3:28:14] POLICY OR LEGAL REQUIREMENT IT
[3:28:17] DIRECTLY AFFECTS WHERE THE
[3:28:18] BOSTON RESIDENTS CAN FIND
[3:28:20] HOUSING, REMAIN IN THEIR
[3:28:22] COMMUNITIES AND ACCESS
[3:28:23] OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE FREE FROM
[3:28:25] DISCRIMINATION.
[3:28:26] ACE IS READY TO BECOME A
[3:28:28] COMMUNITY PARTNER IN THIS WORK
[3:28:29] .
[3:28:31] I'LL GIVE YOU THE EXTRA 30S.
[3:28:33] OKAY.
[3:28:34] WE ARE NOT ASKING TO WORK
[3:28:35] AROUND THE CITY'S FAIR HOUSING
[3:28:36] AND INFRASTRUCTURE.
[3:28:38] WE'RE ASKING TO BE CONNECTED
[3:28:39] WITH IT.
[3:28:40] WE ASK THE CITY TO ESTABLISH
[3:28:42] CLEAR POINTS OF CONTACT.
[3:28:43] ADEQUATE RESOURCES.
[3:28:44] STRONG COORDINATION.
[3:28:46] MEANINGFUL LANGUAGE ACCESS.
[3:28:49] TRANSPARENCY AROUND COMPLAINTS,
[3:28:50] REFERRALS, ENFORCEMENT AND
[3:28:51] OUTCOMES.
[3:28:51] AND FINALLY, THE CITY HAS AN
[3:28:53] IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY IN
[3:28:54] ENSURING THAT FAIR HOUSING
[3:28:56] PROTECTIONS ARE NOT ONLY ON
[3:28:57] PAPER BUT AND ENFORCEABLE IN
[3:28:59] MEANING TO THE BOSTON
[3:29:00] RESIDENTS.
[3:29:00] THANK YOU.
[3:29:03] AND THANK YOU FOR BEING
[3:29:04] HERE.
[3:29:05] OKAY, MR T LAWRENCE.
[3:29:08] RATHER THAN REPEAT THE
[3:29:09] IMPORTANT TESTIMONY ALREADY
[3:29:11] PROVIDED CONCERNING
[3:29:12] DISCRIMINATION, DISPLACEMENT
[3:29:14] AND BEING HOUSING ENFORCEMENT.
[3:29:16] I WOULD LIKE TO FOCUS ON
[3:29:17] SEVERAL HOUSING PRACTICES THAT
[3:29:19] RECEIVE FAR LESS PUBLIC
[3:29:22] ATTENTION BUT HAVE A DIRECT
[3:29:23] IMPACT ON HOUSING STABILITY,
[3:29:25] TENANTS RIGHTS AND QUALITY
[3:29:27] OF LIFE IN BOSTON.
[3:29:28] THESE ISSUES OFTEN EXIST BELOW
[3:29:30] THE LEVEL OF FORMAL COMPLAINTS
[3:29:32] AND THEREFORE ESCAPE MEANINGFUL
[3:29:35] OVERSIGHT.
[3:29:35] YET THEY CONTRIBUTE TO
[3:29:37] FINANCIAL HARDSHIP, UNEQUAL
[3:29:39] BARGAINING POWER AND BARRIERS
[3:29:41] TO MAINTAINING STABLE HOUSING.
[3:29:44] IN MY VIEW, AS AN UPDATED
[3:29:47] ASSESSMENT OF FAIR HOUSING
[3:29:49] SHOULD EXAMINE NOT ONLY WHERE
[3:29:51] PEOPLE CAN LIVE BUT ALSO THE
[3:29:53] CONDITIONS, LEASE PRACTICES AND
[3:29:56] HOUSING STANDARDS THAT SHAPE
[3:29:57] RESIDENTS DAILY LIVES.
[3:29:58] WEDNESDAY SECURE HOUSING FOR
[3:30:01] FAIR HOUSING.
[3:30:02] TO BE MEANINGFUL IT MUST
[3:30:03] INCLUDE FAIRNESS IN
[3:30:05] ADMINISTRATION OF LEASES.
[3:30:07] UTILITY AND UTILITY BILLING
[3:30:10] PRACTICES, ENFORCEMENT
[3:30:12] MECHANISMS AND MINIMUM QUALITY
[3:30:15] OF LIFE STANDARDS THROUGHOUT
[3:30:16] THE CITY.
[3:30:17] MANY LEE LEWIS DRAFT LEASES AND
[3:30:20] MANDATORY ADDENDA THAT IMPOSE
[3:30:21] SIGNIFICANT PENALTIES ON
[3:30:23] TENANTS WHILE IMPOSING
[3:30:25] VIRTUALLY NO CONSEQUENCES ON
[3:30:26] LEE LEWIS FOR VIOLATING THE
[3:30:28] LEASE, HOUSING CODES OR OTHER
[3:30:30] LEGAL OBLIGATIONS.
[3:30:31] WHEN INCREASINGLY TROUBLED
[3:30:33] PROVISION REQUIRES TENANTS TO
[3:30:35] PAY LANDLORDS ATTORNEY'S FEES
[3:30:37] UNLESS THE TENANT FULLY
[3:30:39] PREVAILS THROUGH A COURT
[3:30:41] JUDGMENT.
[3:30:42] IN PRACTICE, IF A TENANT
[3:30:43] RESOLVES A DISPUTE SETTLEMENT
[3:30:46] MEDIATION, ADR OR OTHER
[3:30:48] NEGOTIATED OUTCOME THEY MAY
[3:30:50] STILL BE EXPOSED TO SUBSTANTIAL
[3:30:52] LEGAL FEES.
[3:30:53] THIS CREATES A CHILLING EFFECT
[3:30:55] AGAINST TENANTS OF FORCING
[3:30:56] THEIR RIGHTS AND IMPACT ON
[3:30:58] THEIR CREDIT SHOULD THEY NOT BE
[3:30:59] ABLE TO PAY IN THE TIME SET
[3:31:01] FORTH IN THEIR LEASE.
[3:31:03] I AM ALSO HEARING CONCERNS FROM
[3:31:05] TENANTS REGARDING LANDLORDS
[3:31:06] COMBINING METERED WATER CHARGES
[3:31:08] WITH RENT AND ELIMINATING THE
[3:31:11] ABILITY TO MAKE SEPARATE
[3:31:12] PAYMENTS BY CHECK WHEN THE
[3:31:14] LEASE CLEARLY STATES THAT THEY
[3:31:16] CAN WHEN RESIDENTS CANNOT
[3:31:18] CLEARLY DISTINGUISH RENT
[3:31:20] OBLIGATION FROM UTILITY
[3:31:21] CHARGES.
[3:31:21] IT MAY CREATE CONFUSION,
[3:31:24] FINANCIAL HARDSHIP AND
[3:31:25] CIRCUMSTANCES THAT CAN BE USED
[3:31:27] TO SUPPORT EVICTION ACTIONS.
[3:31:30] I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD
[3:31:31] INVESTIGATE THESE PRACTICES AND
[3:31:33] DEVELOP ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS
[3:31:34] WHERE APPROPRIATE.
[3:31:36] I ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO
[3:31:37] CONSIDER A LOCAL ORDINANCE
[3:31:39] EMPOWERING THE CITY AGENCIES TO
[3:31:40] INVESTIGATE UNFAIR LEASE
[3:31:42] PROVISIONS, ISSUE FINES FOR
[3:31:44] ABUSIVE PRACTICES AND PROHIBIT
[3:31:46] WHEN SIDE LEASE TERMS THAT
[3:31:48] PENALIZE TENANTS WHILE
[3:31:48] PROVIDING NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR
[3:31:51] LANDLORDS.
[3:31:51] FINALLY, HOUSING QUALITY
[3:31:54] MATTERS AS MUCH AS HOUSING
[3:31:55] ACCESS.
[3:31:56] BOSTON SHOULD ESTABLISH
[3:31:58] OCCUPANCY SIZE STANDARDS THAT
[3:32:00] RECOGNIZE THE RELATIONSHIP
[3:32:01] BETWEEN LIVING SPACE AND
[3:32:03] QUALITY OF LIFE.
[3:32:04] FOR EXAMPLE, MANY AFFORDABLE
[3:32:07] ONE BEDROOM UNITS IN BOSTON ARE
[3:32:09] SUBSTANTIALLY SMALLER THAN
[3:32:11] COMPARABLE UNITS IN SURROUNDING
[3:32:13] COMMUNITIES.
[3:32:14] RESIDENTS DESERVE TRANSPARENCY
[3:32:15] AND STANDARDS REGARDING WHAT
[3:32:18] CONSTITUTES A ONE BEDROOM OR
[3:32:20] MORE PRINCIPLES ESTABLISHED IN
[3:32:22] DECISIONS SUCH AS BOSTON
[3:32:24] HOUSING AUTHORITY, THE
[3:32:25] HEMINGWAY IN BOSTON HOUSING
[3:32:27] AUTHORITY THE BRIDGEWATER
[3:32:29] BRIDGEWATER'S RECOGNIZED THAT
[3:32:30] HOUSING IS NOT SIMPLY A
[3:32:32] COMMODITY IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL
[3:32:33] NECESSITY.
[3:32:34] THERE MUST BE SAFE, FAIR AND
[3:32:36] ACCESSIBLE.
[3:32:38] THANK YOU.
[3:32:39] WELCOME.
[3:32:40] IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT
[3:32:42] WOULD.
[3:32:42] LIKE TO TESTIFY THEY DESIRE.
[3:32:46] ONCE AND TWICE.
[3:32:48] THANK YOU.
[3:32:49] OKAY.
[3:32:51] UM, WE HAVE.
[3:32:53] ONE VIDEO TESTIMONY.
[3:32:55] THERE'S A TESTIMONY OF A
[3:32:58] TESTIMONY.
[3:32:58] IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
[3:33:00] SO, ETHAN.
[3:33:01] GO AHEAD.
[3:33:02] LAURIE RADWAN.
[3:33:04] FOLLOWED BY SHARON HINTON AND
[3:33:06] DIANE VALLEY JUST FOR PEOPLE TO
[3:33:08] KNOW.
[3:33:08] WHO HAD A TRANSPORTATION
[3:33:09] ISSUES.
[3:33:10] HE'S STILL HERE AND HE HAD
[3:33:11] TO LEAVE, I GUESS.
[3:33:12] UM, RORY, BEFORE YOU START MY
[3:33:14] CLOCK, CAN YOU HAND OUT THIS
[3:33:15] AND I'LL TAKE ANY EXTRAS.
[3:33:17] HELLO.
[3:33:17] THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THIS
[3:33:19] TESTIMONY AND TESTIMONY.
[3:33:21] I'M SORRY.
[3:33:21] WHEN I LIVE IN ROSLINDALE, I'M
[3:33:23] ,UH, REPRESENTING THE D5
[3:33:25] ADVOCATES ON DOCKET TEN 91099.
[3:33:29] YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU.
[3:33:30] IN A LETTER TO THE
[3:33:31] ADMINISTRATION, GBA LEWIS WARNS
[3:33:33] THAT SQUARES AND STREETS
[3:33:34] PROGRAM COULD EASILY DEFEAT THE
[3:33:36] GOAL OF AFFORDABLE DEVELOPMENT
[3:33:37] AND INCLUSION.
[3:33:39] THEY DID NOT SAY EXCEPT IN
[3:33:41] ROSLINDALE.
[3:33:41] THE MAYOR'S FH ORDERS STATES
[3:33:43] THAT LOCATION SHOULD NOT
[3:33:45] DETERMINE CIVIL RIGHTS ACCESS,
[3:33:47] DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
[3:33:48] SHE DIDN'T SAY BUT NOT IN
[3:33:50] ROSLINDALE.
[3:33:51] RESIDENTS FROM ROXBURY,
[3:33:52] DORCHESTER AND JP MET WITH THE
[3:33:54] PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO ASSURE
[3:33:55] THEY HAD AN ON AUDIT BEFORE
[3:33:58] THEY WERE SQUARES AND STREETS.
[3:34:00] NO ONE FROM ROSS CENTER WAS
[3:34:01] THERE.
[3:34:03] THE SQUARES AND STREETS
[3:34:04] REZONING IN HYDE PARK IN
[3:34:06] DORCHESTER WAS STOPPED OR
[3:34:07] EFFECTIVELY HALTED.
[3:34:08] YET IT MOVED FORWARD ON
[3:34:10] ROSLINDALE.
[3:34:10] SO THE FACT SHEET THAT YOU HAVE
[3:34:12] BEFORE YOU WILL UM, SHOW OVERT
[3:34:15] DISPARITIES IN COMMUNITY
[3:34:16] ENGAGEMENT FOR PERSONS AND
[3:34:17] PROTECTED GROUPS AND INCLUDING
[3:34:19] THOSE WITH LEP.
[3:34:21] AS MARTIN LUTHER KING REMINDS
[3:34:23] US QUOTE INJUSTICE ANYWHERE IS
[3:34:25] A THREAT TO JUSTICE EVERYWHERE.
[3:34:27] WHATEVER AFFECTS ONE DIRECTLY
[3:34:30] AFFECTS ALL INDIRECTLY.
[3:34:33] SO INJUSTICE IN ONE DISTRICT IS
[3:34:35] INJUSTICE IN ALL DISTRICTS AND
[3:34:37] RESPONSIBILITY OF THE
[3:34:39] COUNCIL FOR OVERSIGHT
[3:34:40] OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND FAIRNESS
[3:34:42] DO NOT STOP AT DISTRICT LINES.
[3:34:45] COUNCILOR MURPHY IS NOT HERE.
[3:34:46] I WAS GOING TO COMMEND HER FOR
[3:34:47] SPEAKING UP AND SPEAKING OUT
[3:34:48] FOR EQUALITY IN ROSLINDALE AT
[3:34:50] THE ZONING COMMISSION HEARING.
[3:34:52] SO OF COURSE OF COURSE BOSTON'S
[3:34:55] HOUSING CRISIS DEMANDS URGENCY
[3:34:57] BUT NOT AT THE COST
[3:34:59] OF EQUALITY.
[3:35:00] I'M LOOKING FORWARD.
[3:35:01] COUNCILOR.
[3:35:03] UH CULPEPPER APRIL 9TH IS GOING
[3:35:04] TO BE THE NEXT SESSION OF THE
[3:35:06] CIVIL RIGHTS COMMITTEE HEARING.
[3:35:07] I THINK WE SHOULD BE USING
[3:35:09] ROSLINDALE AS A CASE STUDY, UM,
[3:35:12] TO EXAMINE WHAT HAPPENS TO
[3:35:14] CIVIL LIBERTIES AND RIGHTS WHEN
[3:35:16] THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT
[3:35:18] PROGRESSES.
[3:35:20] SO LET'S REAL FAST.
[3:35:22] UH OH.
[3:35:22] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[3:35:23] I WANT TO.
[3:35:24] FINISH BECAUSE OTHER PEOPLE GOT
[3:35:25] EXTRA TIME.
[3:35:25] I'M GOING TO GO.
[3:35:26] UM NO.
[3:35:27] I'M SORRY.
[3:35:27] FOR TIME WE'LL USE.
[3:35:29] AN F H LENS TO EXAMINE THE
[3:35:30] HARM CAUSED BY ROSS AND DEALS
[3:35:32] REZONING AND TRY TO MITIGATE IT
[3:35:33] AND PREVENT IT FROM HAPPENING
[3:35:35] AGAIN.
[3:35:35] THANK YOU.
[3:35:37] THANK YOU SHARON.
[3:35:41] THANK YOU.
[3:35:43] UM, COUNCILOR WORRELL AND
[3:35:46] COUNCIL CULPEPER I'M GOING TO
[3:35:47] ALLOW YOU ALL TO GIVE A BRIEF
[3:35:49] CLOSING STATEMENT.
[3:35:50] UH THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK
[3:35:52] YOU TO ALL THE COMMUNITY
[3:35:53] PANELISTS AND ALL THE PANELISTS
[3:35:54] UH, THAT SHOWED UP TODAY.
[3:35:56] UH, THANK YOU TO, UH, THE CHAIR
[3:35:58] OF MY CO-SPONSORS, MY
[3:35:59] COLLEAGUES, UH, FOR THE GREAT
[3:36:01] CONVERSATIONS AND THOSE WHO
[3:36:03] PROVIDED PUBLIC REMARKS.
[3:36:04] UH, FOR THE RECORD AND UH, JUST
[3:36:08] TO THE CHAIR I JUST LOVE TO
[3:36:09] CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION IN
[3:36:10] THE WORK IN SESSION.
[3:36:11] I THINK THAT.
[3:36:13] WITH THE AMOUNT OF GOALS AND
[3:36:16] STRATEGIES, UM.
[3:36:18] THAT HAS BEEN INTRODUCED TO THE
[3:36:20] CITY OF BOSTON, I THINK IT'S
[3:36:22] IMPORTANT THAT WE DIVE INTO NOT
[3:36:24] ONLY THE METRICS BUT THE
[3:36:25] STATUSES, UM, AND THAT THE
[3:36:27] COUNCIL HAS A MORE OF A ROLE
[3:36:29] THAN JUST YOU KNOW, THIS
[3:36:31] HEARING HERE.
[3:36:31] SO I DEFINITELY LOVE TO HAVE,
[3:36:33] UH, WORK IN SESSION BY THE END
[3:36:35] OF THE YEAR.
[3:36:36] UH, TO GET AN UPDATE ON UH A
[3:36:37] LOT OF THE QUESTIONS AND
[3:36:39] STATUSES OF THE STRATEGIES BUT
[3:36:40] ALSO UH, THE HIRING, UM, AND
[3:36:43] THE APPOINTMENT OF THE
[3:36:45] COMMISSION.
[3:36:45] UM, THE FIFTH COMMISSION MEMBER
[3:36:47] AS WELL.
[3:36:47] AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I
[3:36:49] WOULD LOVE TO CONTINUE ON UH,
[3:36:51] THROUGHOUT NEXT YEAR AS WELL.
[3:36:52] SO UM GREAT GREAT CONVERSATION
[3:36:55] ,GREAT START.
[3:36:56] UM, JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
[3:36:58] WE CONTINUE UH, THE ADVOCACY
[3:36:59] BUT NOT ONLY THE ADVOCACY BUT
[3:37:01] ROLLING UP OUR SLEEVES AND
[3:37:02] DIVING INTO THE NUMBERS.
[3:37:04] SO THANK YOU AGAIN.
[3:37:05] UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO
[3:37:06] PARTICIPATED.
[3:37:07] THANK YOU COUNCIL AS WELL.
[3:37:08] COUNCIL CULPEPER.
[3:37:09] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[3:37:11] AND UH, THANK YOU TO EVERYONE
[3:37:13] THAT ATTENDED AND TESTIFIED AND
[3:37:16] JUST MADE THEIR PRESENCE KNOWN
[3:37:18] .
[3:37:19] ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BECAME
[3:37:21] CLEAR TO ME IS WE HAVE A LOT
[3:37:23] OF WORK TO DO.
[3:37:25] I MEAN, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK
[3:37:27] TO DO, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY
[3:37:29] LAID OUT 108 GOALS 14 GOALS
[3:37:34] UNDER THE AF OF AGE AND UH, I
[3:37:39] THINK WE ALSO HAVE A LOT
[3:37:40] OF WORK TO DO IN TERMS
[3:37:42] OF PUTTING TOGETHER A FAIR
[3:37:43] HOUSING OFFICE.
[3:37:45] THAT ACTUALLY.
[3:37:46] CAN HANDLE 108.
[3:37:49] UM, AND SO LET ME JUST SAY
[3:37:51] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[3:37:53] UH, THE ONE THING THAT
[3:37:55] CONTINUES TO BOTHER ME EVERYONE
[3:37:57] ASKS WHY ARE PEOPLE MOVING TO
[3:37:59] BROCKTON AND RANDOLPH IN TIME?
[3:38:02] AND IT'S BECAUSE SECTION EIGHT
[3:38:04] HOLDERS THAT ARE TRYING TO RENT
[3:38:07] IF YOU LOOK AT THAT 2020 REPORT
[3:38:09] HOW RAMPANT DISCRIMINATION IS
[3:38:12] WITH REGARD TO 42% OF THEM.
[3:38:14] THEY CAN'T RENT HERE.
[3:38:16] SO THEY END UP GOING TO TIME OR
[3:38:19] BROCKTON WHERE THEY CAN USE
[3:38:21] THAT SIX AND EIGHT CERTIFICATE.
[3:38:23] SO I HOPE WE CAN DOUBLE DOWN ON
[3:38:25] THAT WORK LOOK A LOT CLOSER AND
[3:38:28] SECTION EIGHT DISCRIMINATION IN
[3:38:30] THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ACTUALLY
[3:38:32] DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
[3:38:33] THANK YOU.
[3:38:33] THANK YOU COUNCILOR CULPEPER.
[3:38:36] AND I JUST WANT TO.
[3:38:38] END THIS HEARING BY JUST SAYING
[3:38:40] THANK YOU.
[3:38:42] TO THE PUBLIC TO TO THE.
[3:38:43] COMMUNITY WORKERS, TO THE
[3:38:45] ORGANIZERS FOR ALL THE WORK
[3:38:46] THAT YOU DO.
[3:38:47] UM, I'M VERY HONORED OF.
[3:38:49] THE WAY THAT THIS HEARING WENT.
[3:38:50] IT WAS WELL ATTENDED.
[3:38:51] I LEARNED AN EXTENSIVE AMOUNT.
[3:38:54] TODAY ABOUT.
[3:38:55] AS COUNCILOR.
[3:38:55] CULPEPER MENTIONED, THE AMOUNT
[3:38:57] OF WORK WE HAVE YET TO.
[3:38:58] DO IN ORDER TO TRULY ESTABLISH
[3:38:59] HOW A LOT OF JUST RESTORATIVE
[3:39:03] WORK THAT THE CITY OF BOSTON
[3:39:05] RESIDENTS DESERVE.
[3:39:06] AND THAT YOU HAVE MY COMMITMENT
[3:39:07] AS THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE
[3:39:09] .
[3:39:09] I WILL MAKE SURE TO KEEP THIS
[3:39:12] HEARING IN COMMITTEE SO THAT WE
[3:39:14] CAN HAVE A WORKING SESSION IN
[3:39:16] THE IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND.
[3:39:17] GET SOME OF THOSE.
[3:39:18] ANSWERS THAT WERE ASKED TODAY
[3:39:20] BY MY COLLEAGUES.
[3:39:21] SO WITH THIS THIS HEARING ON
[3:39:24] DOCKET NUMBER 0695 IS
[3:39:28] ADJOURNED.