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Government Operations on October 15, 2026

City Council Committee · Boston · 2026-10-15

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financialfinancial — 86 words, where they fell along the tapesafetysafety — 32 words, where they fell along the tapecommunitycommunity — 72 words, where they fell along the tapeenvironmentalenvironmental — 7 words, where they fell along the tapelegallegal — 32 words, where they fell along the tapeequityequity — 7 words, where they fell along the tapeinfrastructureinfrastructure — 237 words, where they fell along the tapeprocessprocess — 11 words, where they fell along the tape10:00 · equity: “PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE”10:02 · process: “CONDUCTING THIS HEARING”10:04 · process: “THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED”10:25 · process: “AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.”10:40 · environmental: “AND ENERGY@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE”11:01 · process: “UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS”11:02 · legal: “ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO”11:02 · process: “ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO”11:30 · infrastructure: “SUPERINTENDENT OF STREET”12:03 · community: “THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING”12:07 · community: “UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS BUY INTO”12:16 · infrastructure: “STREETS, SIDEWALKS BUT”12:22 · infrastructure: “WHICH COULD INCLUDE STREET”12:25 · financial: “UM, AND THAT COST CAN BE UP TO”12:31 · community: “RESIDENTS.”12:33 · infrastructure: “WAYS ON HOW TO MAKE THESE ROADS”12:40 · infrastructure: “STREET.”13:09 · financial: “SEE IF ASPHALT IS THE MOST COST”13:36 · community: “CITY LEVEL TO RESIDENTS WHO”14:21 · community: “RESIDENTS ON ALTHOUGH IT'S”15:43 · legal: “OWNERSHIP AND LIABILITY.”16:29 · community: “WAY RESIDENT UM, SINCE.”18:20 · legal: “ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU”19:47 · safety: “OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW,”21:30 · equity: “ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW,”21:41 · equity: “ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM,”21:48 · legal: “REGULATIONS.”22:46 · safety: “SAFETY ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S A”22:47 · safety: “PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE”23:01 · safety: “PEDESTRIAN UH UH FRIENDLY AND”23:03 · safety: “SAFE.”23:08 · safety: “SAFETY ASPECT OF IT.”23:24 · legal: “COUNSELORS OFFICE OR.”24:38 · legal: “LAW UM YOU KNOW THE LEGALITY”25:28 · infrastructure: “ROADWAY AND SIDEWALKS ARE”35:46 · equity: “KNOW, ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM”46:37 · financial: “MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.”52:01 · equity: “ADA ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS”52:40 · equity: “ACCESSIBILITY UM COMPLIANCE IF”57:17 · process: “AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.”1:01:05 · financial: “WOULDN'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS”1:08:14 · financial: “COST AND MATERIAL COST, YOU”1:11:14 · environmental: “RECYCLING OR ANY OF THAT.”1:15:09 · financial: “TAXPAYER DOLLARS CAN GO TOWARDS”1:29:49 · environmental: “GREEN AND MY SECTION HAS FOUR”1:37:51 · environmental: “CURRENT ISSUE IS A TREE ON, UH,”1:37:55 · environmental: “A VERY, VERY LARGE TREE.”1:37:59 · environmental: “TREE REMOVED WE SPOKE TO”$1$1 — said 1 time, first at 48:03$250$250 — said 1 time, first at 1:31:5712:05 · a question: “ON PRIVATE WAVES?”16:43 · a question: “ARE YOU, UM ON THE PICK?”17:30 · a question: “DO ON PRIVATE WORKS?”18:46 · a question: “JUST ALTOGETHER?”23:43 · a question: “IT'S WATER RELATED, RIGHT?”23:53 · a question: “THE POTHOLE?”24:57 · a question: “JUST RESURFACE A PRIVATE WAY?”26:30 · a question: “WANT TO COUNCIL?”29:56 · a question: “TYPES OF ISSUES?”30:15 · a question: “SEPARATE ISSUES?”33:23 · a question: “SO IS THAT ACCURATE?”37:01 · a question: “COST BE TO TAKE THAT ON?”37:17 · a question: “GO ALONG WITH THAT?”38:17 · a question: “SHARON STREET, RIGHT?”38:37 · a question: “THEY LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY?”39:17 · a question: “SPLIT INDIVIDUALLY?”39:25 · a question: “IT WAS A PUBLIC STREET OR NOT?”39:46 · a question: “PROPERTY RIGHT?”40:39 · a question: “UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?”42:45 · a question: “WITH ASPHALT?”42:46 · a question: “WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?”43:57 · a question: “IT THROUGH IF NEEDED?”44:13 · a question: “WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE?”47:43 · a question: “OF THAT HOW DOES IT WORK?”11:02 · decision: “UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES.”18:20 · decision: “AND I KNOW, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES.”18:54 · pushback: “UM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY DEFECTS.”20:39 · pushback: “UH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS.”21:14 · decision: “UM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE A VOTE.”21:37 · pushback: “WOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A PRIVATE…”24:53 · pushback: “IN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO…”36:04 · decision: “THE VOTE TO THERE'S THE PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A SURVEY…”38:18 · decision: “IT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.”41:50 · pushback: “UM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY…”56:24 · decision: “AND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE THE CITY'S.”57:17 · decision: “AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.”59:05 · decision: “FLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR TO WHAT LIKE SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED IS THAT THEY…”59:42 · decision: “ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT.”1:02:29 · decision: “UM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM AND.”1:04:42 · decision: “THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO.”1:05:34 · decision: “IS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE.”1:31:31 · pushback: “WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT…”1:42:28 · pushback: “I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.”0:0030:001:00:001:30:0038:18
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11:02decisionUM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES.
18:20decisionAND I KNOW, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES.
18:54pushbackUM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY DEFECTS.
20:39pushbackUH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS.
21:14decisionUM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE A VOTE.
21:37pushbackWOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A PRIVATE…
24:53pushbackIN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO…
36:04decisionTHE VOTE TO THERE'S THE PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A SURVEY…
38:18decisionIT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
41:50pushbackUM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY…
56:24decisionAND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE THE CITY'S.
57:17decisionAMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.
59:05decisionFLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR TO WHAT LIKE SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED IS THAT THEY…
59:42decisionARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT.
1:02:29decisionUM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM AND.
1:04:42decisionTHIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO.
1:05:34decisionIS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE.
1:31:31pushbackWHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT…
1:42:28pushbackI'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.
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The committee held a hearing on a proposed ordinance regarding city maintenance and pothole repairs on private ways [11:01]. Participants discussed using asphalt for temporary roadway repairs [17:49] [59:58], emergency vehicle access and public safety [19:47], drainage issues caused by a lack of catch basins [19:13], and the legal and financial challenges of converting private ways to public streets through the betterment process [21:00] [25:42]. Public Works staff outlined current 311 pothole response procedures [27:11] alongside the labor, cost, and operational constraints of larger repairs [37:18] [57:40] [1:08:00]. During public testimony, residents described severe street degradation affecting mail delivery, emergency access, vehicle maintenance, and property safety [1:10:47] [1:13:45] [1:37:08], noted issues with illegal dumping [1:32:26], and highlighted the difficulty of reaching neighbor consensus for betterment projects [1:39:43]. No formal vote was taken, and councilors agreed to continue working with city staff to analyze costs and implementation options [1:09:06] [1:44:16].

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What it means: The meeting focused on Docket 0807, an ordinance concerning pothole repairs and temporary road maintenance on private ways throughout the city [11:02]. Participants discussed the legal restrictions against spending public funds on private property [19:39], as well as the practical necessity of filling dangerous defects to ensure emergency vehicle access [19:50]. The conversation highlighted the distinction between quick asphalt patches and full roadway reconstruction through the Public Improvement Commission's betterment process, which requires abutter agreement and adherence to full city standards [17:49], [21:04], [34:21].

Who moved it: The matter was sponsored by Councilor Aaron Murphy [11:08] and brought forward for discussion with Councilor Worrell [14:02], [1:50:19]. Public Works Operations Superintendent Daniel Nee testified on behalf of the administration regarding current field practices and technical constraints [10:44], [11:31], [16:10]. Councilors Louijeune [11:20], Fitzgerald [15:16], Flynn [26:21], and Weber [41:33] also questioned the administration, followed by video and live testimony from resident constituents [1:10:09], [1:19:42].

What to watch: Councilors plan to convene a working session to explore legal options, clarify definitions between temporary maintenance and permanent resurfacing, and draft potential ordinance amendments [1:01:31], [1:03:38]. Superintendent Nee was asked to follow up with cost estimates and data on 311 pothole requests received for private ways [57:59], [1:40:47]. The transcript does not settle when the committee will report out the proposal or when a final council vote will occur [1:44:38].

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9:42 OPERATIONS.

9:43 TODAY IS OCTOBER 15TH 2026

9:46 AND THE EXACT TIME IS 1006.

9:48 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO

9:49 OF THE ACT OF 2025 MODIFYING

9:51 CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF THE

9:52 OPEN MEETING LAW AND RELIEVING

9:53 PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN

9:55 REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE

9:56 REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES

9:57 CONDUCT ITS MEETINGS IN A

9:58 PUBLIC PLACE THAT IS OPEN AND

10:00 PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE

10:01 PUBLIC.

10:01 THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE

10:02 CONDUCTING THIS HEARING

10:03 VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.

10:04 THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED

10:06 AND IT IS ALSO BEING LIVE

10:07 STREAMED AT BOSTON.GOV/CITY

10:09 COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST

10:12 ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT, RCN

10:13 CHANNEL 82 AND FIOS CHANNEL 964

10:15 .

10:16 WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO

10:17 THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT

10:19 CAGLE@BOSTON.GOV.

10:20 AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE

10:21 RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL

10:22 COUNCILORS.

10:23 PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

10:25 AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.

10:26 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

10:27 IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED

10:29 UP AND WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO

10:30 TESTIFY.

10:31 IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR

10:32 PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT

10:33 DONE SO, PLEASE EMAIL OUR

10:34 CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON MEGAN

10:37 CAVANAUGH AT NEGA.

10:40 AND ENERGY@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE

10:44 ZOOM LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE

10:46 ADDED TO THE LIST.

10:47 JUST AS A HEADS UP FOR CENTRAL

10:49 STAFF WE DO HAVE TWO

10:51 PRERECORDED PUBLIC TESTIMONY

10:53 VIDEOS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAY.

10:56 IF WE CAN PLAY THOSE BEFORE WE

10:58 DO PUBLIC TESTIMONY I THINK

11:00 THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

11:01 UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS

11:02 ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO

11:06 ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES.

11:08 THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY

11:10 COUNCILORS BRIAN WORRELL AND

11:11 AARON MURPHY AND WAS REFERRED

11:13 TO THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 15TH,

11:14 2026.

11:15 TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY

11:17 COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL

11:18 COUNCILOR FLYNN

11:20 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE AND

11:20 COUNCIL AS WELL.

11:22 BUT FOR NOW BEFORE WE GO TO UM

11:25 THE THE PANEL UH ALL RIGHT,

11:28 CITY ADMIN EXCUSE ME OUR

11:30 SUPERINTENDENT OF STREET

11:31 OPERATIONS DANIEL NEE I'LL GO

11:32 TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR ANY

11:34 OPENING REMARKS YOU MAY HAVE.

11:35 UH, COUNCIL ORAL YOU HAVE THE

11:36 FLOOR.

11:37 UH THANK YOU.

11:37 CHAIR.

11:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING

11:39 HERE.

11:39 UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU,

11:40 SUPERINTENDENT.

11:41 ME?

11:41 UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE

11:43 TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ALL,

11:44 UM, OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK UH

11:48 INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK UM,

11:49 ALONGSIDE OF YOU.

11:51 UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I

11:54 KNOW A LOT OF OTHER COUNCILORS

11:55 ,UM, HAVE, UH, BROUGHT UP

11:59 AROUND HOW DO WE GET MORE

12:01 SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO HELP

12:03 THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING

12:05 ON PRIVATE WAVES?

12:07 UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS BUY INTO

12:10 PRIVATE WAYS NOT KNOWING THAT

12:11 THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY

12:13 FOR THE RESURFACING OF THE

12:16 STREETS, SIDEWALKS BUT

12:18 EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE GROUND

12:20 AND BRINGING IT UP TO CODE UH,

12:22 WHICH COULD INCLUDE STREET

12:24 LIGHTS.

12:25 UM, AND THAT COST CAN BE UP TO

12:29 UM, SIX FIGURES UM FOR

12:31 RESIDENTS.

12:32 SO WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO FIND

12:33 WAYS ON HOW TO MAKE THESE ROADS

12:36 THAT ARE USED BY MORE THAN THE

12:38 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE LIVE ON THE

12:40 STREET.

12:41 UM.

12:43 EASIER TO USE UM AND RESURFACE

12:46 AND BRING THEM A LITTLE BIT

12:47 MORE RELIEF, UH, TO THEIR

12:49 PRIVATE WAYS.

12:50 I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS

12:52 A CITY CODE THAT SAYS THAT YOU

12:54 KNOW, WE COULD DO SOME

12:55 PATCHWORK.

12:55 UM, THIS POINT IT JUST AIMS TO

12:59 ADD UH, THE WORD ASPHALT UH,

13:02 INTO THAT UM UM UM, TEMPORARY

13:05 FIX THAT CITY EMPLOYEES CAN

13:07 CURRENTLY DO.

13:08 BUT I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING TO

13:09 SEE IF ASPHALT IS THE MOST COST

13:13 EFFECTIVE WAY KNOWING THAT

13:14 THESE POTHOLES WILL COME BACK

13:17 UP TO BE RESURFACED YEAR OVER

13:19 YEAR.

13:20 SO I'D LOVE TO UH, YOU KNOW,

13:22 HAVE EVERYONE THOUGHTS I KNOW A

13:24 CONVERSATION AROUND THE CONSENT

13:26 DECREE JUST GOT BROUGHT TO ME.

13:28 SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO

13:30 BRINGING, UM EVERYONE START

13:33 TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT KIND

13:34 OF RELIEF WE COULD DO HERE ON A

13:36 CITY LEVEL TO RESIDENTS WHO

13:38 ARE, UM, BEING PLAYED WITH

13:41 STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN

13:42 FIXED UM, FOR YEARS.

13:45 UH, SO THANK YOU CHAIR.

13:46 THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS

13:47 BEEN HERE.

13:48 AND YOU GUYS.

13:49 ALL COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU HAVE

13:51 THE FLOOR.

13:57 BUT THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

13:59 THANK YOU TO.

14:01 COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR BRINGING

14:02 THIS FORWARD CRITICAL ISSUE

14:06 QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

14:08 THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE

14:10 SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON

14:13 ESPECIALLY ON THE CITY

14:15 COUNCIL ITS UM QUALITY OF LIFE

14:17 BASIC CITY SERVICES.

14:18 I'M ALSO WORKING WITH CHINATOWN

14:21 RESIDENTS ON ALTHOUGH IT'S

14:23 SOMEWHAT ON AN UNRELATED BUT

14:25 IT'S MORE OF A WATER AND SEWER

14:26 ISSUE AND CHINATOWN AS IT

14:29 RELATES TO UM, PRIVATE ALLEYS.

14:31 BUT THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES

14:34 AS IT RELATES TO MAKING SURE WE

14:35 FIX UM, POTHOLES, PROVIDE UM,

14:39 BASIC CITY SERVICES THE BEST WE

14:40 CAN.

14:41 UM THANK YOU COUNCIL OVERALL

14:43 FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND

14:46 UM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

14:47 DISCUSSION.

14:48 THANK YOU EVERYBODY.

14:48 THANK YOU COUNCILOR FLYNN.

14:50 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

14:52 GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND

14:54 GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.

14:55 THANK YOU TO COUNCIL OUT FOR

14:56 THIS FILING.

14:57 WE'VE HAD A LOT

14:59 OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PRIVATE

14:59 WAYS.

15:00 WE'VE HAD THEM HERE IN HYDE

15:01 PARK.

15:02 SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

15:03 CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT

15:04 OF STEPS CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE.

15:06 I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT

15:07 OF BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS

15:08 OF LIKE WHAT'S POSSIBLE IS NOT

15:09 POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE

15:10 ARE DRAINAGE ISSUES.

15:11 LOOKING FORWARD TO THE

15:12 CONVERSATION.

15:13 THANK YOU.

15:15 WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

15:16 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD

15:17 COUNCILOR SHELDON FOR.

15:19 THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU

15:21 TO COUNCIL.

15:22 UH, A LOT OF, UH, ALLEYWAYS AND

15:23 PRIVATE WAYS ON THE SOUTH END

15:25 AND WE GET THIS EVERY SO OFTEN.

15:26 SO, UH.

15:26 LOOKING FORWARD TO.

15:27 LEARN WHAT CAN BE DONE AND HOW

15:29 WE CAN CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE.

15:30 UH, APPRECIATE IT COMING

15:31 FORWARD.

15:31 THANK YOU.

15:32 CHAIR.

15:32 THANK YOU.

15:33 I JUST WANT TO THANK THE THE

15:35 FILER AS WELL.

15:36 I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS

15:37 CONVERSATION I HAD YOU JUST

15:38 HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY I LOVE THE

15:39 IDEA OF THIS I HAVE SOME

15:41 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GALLERY AND

15:43 OWNERSHIP AND LIABILITY.

15:45 SO UM.

15:46 LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION

15:47 AND AND SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE

15:48 THIS A REALITY.

15:49 CHARLESTOWN IN PARTICULAR IS

15:50 JUST AT THE A LOT OF PRIVATE

15:53 WAYS THAT WERE HORSE CARRIAGE

15:55 UM THAT UH WHOLE UM UH JUST

15:59 AVENUES I GUESS I DON'T EVEN

16:00 KNOW THE RIGHT WORD FOR IT BUT

16:01 JUST WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH

16:02 THIS IN CHARLESTOWN AND EAST

16:04 BOSTON AND UM, LOOK FORWARD TO

16:06 UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN MAKE

16:07 THIS A REALITY.

16:07 BUT FOR NOW WE'LL GO TO

16:09 SUPERINTENDENT LEE FOR ANY

16:10 OPENING REMARKS HE MAY HAVE AND

16:11 THEN WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS.

16:12 SO, UM, DANIEL, YOU HAVE THE

16:14 FLOOR.

16:15 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

16:16 THANK YOU COUNCILORS.

16:17 UH, HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO

16:19 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

16:20 UM, REGARDING UH.

16:23 UH.

16:24 PRIVATE WAYS TO THE BEST

16:25 OF MY ABILITY UM, AS A PRIVATE

16:29 WAY RESIDENT UM, SINCE.

16:31 1978 I FEEL A LOT OF THE PAIN

16:33 GOING ON, BUT, UM, HAVE A TON

16:36 OF INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.

16:37 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS

16:38 THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.

16:41 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

16:42 AND JUST A.

16:42 QUICK QUESTION.

16:43 ARE YOU, UM ON THE PICK?

16:46 I AM NOT NO.

16:47 OKAY.

16:47 ALL RIGHT.

16:48 I JUST WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE I

16:49 THINK A LOT.

16:49 OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE MAY

16:51 INVOLVE THE PICK BUT YEAH I

16:53 DID.

16:53 I DID ABOUT FOUR HOURS

16:54 OF PREP WITH THE PICK YESTERDAY

16:56 SO.

16:56 OKAY GREAT.

16:57 GREAT.

16:58 I'M NOT AN EXPERT.

16:59 I HAVE NEWFOUND KNOWLEDGE THAT

17:00 I'M WILLING TO SHARE.

17:02 OKAY GREAT.

17:03 ALL RIGHT.

17:04 UM.

17:04 SO WE'LL JUST GO TO.

17:05 THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR UM,

17:07 QUESTIONS AND WE'LL DO SIX.

17:09 MINUTES OF QUESTIONS FOR

17:10 EACH.

17:10 WHEN, UM, I PUT MY HAND UP.

17:12 THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE ONE

17:14 MINUTE.

17:14 UM, BUT FOR NOW I'LL JUST.

17:15 GO.

17:16 TO COUNCILOR WORRELL.

17:20 THANK YOU.

17:21 CHAIR.

17:21 UM THANK.

17:22 YOU SUPERINTENDENT.

17:23 ANY NEW QUESTIONS CURRENTLY

17:25 RIGHT NOW.

17:26 WHAT TYPE OF TEMPORARY

17:27 REPAIRS?

17:27 WHAT ANY REPAIRS DO WE

17:30 CURRENTLY.

17:30 DO ON PRIVATE WORKS?

17:32 UM, SO TEMPORARY REPAIRS IT

17:34 USUALLY GETS LISTED AS A

17:36 POTHOLE.

17:36 UM.

17:37 IT YOU KNOW, I THINK INTERNALLY

17:39 WE SEPARATE POTHOLES FROM

17:41 ROADWAY DEFECTS.

17:42 POTHOLE IS A TYPE OF A ROADWAY

17:43 DEFECT.

17:44 BUT, UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOUR

17:46 OFFICES REACH OUT TO US AND

17:47 WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT.

17:49 UM, WE TEND TO USE ASPHALT.

17:51 UH, WE TEND TO USE LIKE, UH,

17:53 MATERIALS.

17:54 SO IF IT'S AN ASPHALT PRIVATE

17:56 WAY WE WILL USE ASPHALT.

17:58 UM UH OTHER PLACES IF IT'S

18:00 GRAVEL WE WILL USE GRAVEL OR

18:02 UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLEANED

18:04 MAILINGS FROM WHEN WE RESURFACE

18:05 YOU TAKE THE UM THE ASPHALT

18:08 THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THEY

18:09 ,YOU KNOW, SCREED IT AND TAKE

18:11 OUT LARGER CHUNKS AND WE CAN

18:12 USE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO

18:15 MATCH LIKE MATERIAL EXISTING

18:17 MATERIAL.

18:18 GOT IT.

18:18 AND I KNOW, UH, THIS

18:20 ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU

18:23 KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES.

18:26 UM, I'VE TALKED TO A FEW

18:27 DIFFERENT, UM, UH, EMPLOYEES

18:31 FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU KNOW,

18:33 THEY'RE YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE

18:34 ARE SAYING WELL, YOU KNOW,

18:35 WE'LL HAVE TO REFILL THE

18:37 POTHOLES EVERY OTHER YEAR,

18:39 RIGHT?

18:39 UM, WHAT WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT

18:41 AROUND FILLING THAT POTHOLE

18:44 VERSUS RESURFACING THE STREET

18:46 JUST ALTOGETHER?

18:49 SO ON CITY STREET RESURFACING

18:50 IS THE MUCH BETTER OPTION,

18:52 RIGHT?

18:53 UM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN

18:54 UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S

18:55 CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY

18:57 DEFECTS.

18:58 UM.

18:59 AS IT PERTAINS TO PRIVATE

19:01 WAYS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN, YOU

19:03 KNOW, MINIMAL MAINTENANCE

19:05 THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.

19:07 UM, YOU KNOW, WATER IS THE

19:08 NUMBER ONE SOURCE, THE NUMBER

19:10 ONE PROBLEM, UH, WHERE THERE'S

19:11 ANY TYPE OF DRAINAGE OR RUNOFF

19:13 UM, LACK OF CATCH BASINS ON

19:15 PRIVATE WAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND

19:18 WHOEVER YOU SPOKE TO WAS WAS

19:20 100% RIGHT.

19:21 YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE THERE'S

19:22 THE LIST OF ALLEYS THAT WE HIT

19:23 KIND OF EVERY YEAR AND THE SAME

19:25 ONES THE SAME SPOTS.

19:26 UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AREN'T

19:28 HAPPY WITH JUST A BAND-AID

19:30 REPAIR BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW,

19:31 UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THERE IS A

19:33 STATE LAW UM, I KNOW

19:35 COUNCILOR APOLOGIST UH,

19:36 REFERRED TO IT BUT THERE IS A

19:37 STATE LAW THAT, UH, PROHIBITS

19:39 US FROM USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON

19:41 PRIVATE PROPERTY AND

19:42 TECHNICALLY, UH, PRIVATE WAY IS

19:44 PRIVATE PROPERTY.

19:46 HOWEVER, IN THE INTEREST

19:47 OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW,

19:50 WE WE WILL GOD FORBID WE

19:52 WOULDN'T WANT A LADDER TRUCK OR

19:53 AN AMBULANCE TO NOT BE ABLE TO

19:55 GET SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF, YOU

19:56 KNOW, UM, BAD ROADWAYS.

19:59 SO THAT'S THE.

20:00 UH.

20:01 HOW WE FEEL COMFORTABLE

20:04 POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY BREAKING A

20:05 LAW AND DOING REPAIRS.

20:07 UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO, UH

20:10 ,BE ARRESTED FOR THAT AT SOME

20:11 POINT IF NEED BE, BUT YOU KNOW.

20:15 IDEALLY WE WOULD WANT

20:17 RESURFACING A FULL RECORD

20:18 OF ALL THESE YOU KNOW, THESE

20:19 ROADWAYS HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED,

20:20 YOU KNOW, SINCE THE 1800S.

20:22 UM, IDEALLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO

20:25 HAVE FULL RECONSTRUCTION.

20:27 BUT AGAIN IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY

20:30 SO THAT'S WHERE WE THAT THAT'S

20:31 WHERE THE THE ISSUE LIES.

20:33 GOT IT.

20:34 AND I MEAN I'VE RECEIVED.

20:36 UH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD

20:39 A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM

20:41 RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS.

20:42 IF THEY WERE TO.

20:43 AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF

20:45 THEY WERE TO RESURFACE THE

20:48 STREET THEN THEY HAVE TO DO NOT

20:50 ONLY RESURFACING ON THE STREET

20:51 BUT BRINGING THAT STREET UP TO

20:53 CODE.

20:55 SO I THINK SO THAT'S PART

20:57 OF THAT UH BRINGING IT UP TO

21:00 CODE THAT'S PART OF THE PICK

21:00 THE PIKE BETTERMENT PROCESS.

21:02 UM AND WE WILL BE SENDING A

21:04 LINK OUT UM DAILY WE'LL BE

21:05 SENDING A LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY

21:07 .

21:07 I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT ALREADY.

21:09 UM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU

21:12 KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A

21:13 MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD

21:14 HAVE TO BE A VOTE.

21:14 YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE MEETINGS

21:15 WOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT

21:17 WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO

21:19 TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND

21:20 BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A

21:21 PRIVATE WAY TO A PUBLIC WAY,

21:22 THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE

21:24 STREET UP FROM ITS CURRENT

21:25 CONDITIONS INTO, YOU KNOW, CITY

21:28 SPECS, UM, YOU KNOW, FULLY

21:30 ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW,

21:32 50, YOU KNOW, 53 53FT OF OF

21:35 OF WIDTH RIGHT WHICH NOW WE'RE

21:37 TALKING PROBLEMS HERE ON A LOT

21:38 OF THESE ALLEYS, UM, YOU KNOW,

21:41 ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM,

21:43 DRAINAGE LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO

21:44 BE ADDRESSED.

21:45 WATER AND SEWER HAS THEIR OWN

21:46 SET OF BETTER BETTERMENT, UH,

21:48 REGULATIONS.

21:49 UM, YOU KNOW, IF UH IF THE

21:52 ABUTTERS GOT TOGETHER AND JUST

21:54 WANTED TO RESURFACE IT, YOU

21:55 KNOW, THAT'D BE LESS COSTLY FOR

21:56 THEM.

21:57 UM.

21:58 BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO

21:59 TAKE IT OVER AS A PUBLIC WAY

22:01 UNLESS THAT CRITERIA IS MET.

22:05 RIGHT.

22:05 UM.

22:06 AND I.

22:06 GUESS I'M OF THE.

22:08 MINDSET THAT MOST.

22:10 OF THESE STREETS.

22:11 ARE LEADING TO OTHER MAIN

22:13 THOROUGHFARES OR COMING OFF A

22:14 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE LIKE THE.

22:16 WORD PRIVATE.

22:18 UM FOR ME DOESN'T.

22:20 MEAN THAT.

22:21 YOU CAN'T.

22:22 YOU KNOW.

22:24 THE PUBLIC CAN'T USE THE

22:25 STREET.

22:25 SO I FEEL LIKE THAT ALL PUBLIC

22:26 ROADS ANYWAY, UM AND I AM

22:29 OF THE MINDSET THAT THE CITY

22:30 SHOULD, UM, ALL STREETS AND

22:32 SIDEWALKS UH, I KNOW THAT THE

22:34 COST, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT

22:36 I'VE ALWAYS HEARD CONSTANT

22:37 PUSHBACK FROM.

22:39 UM, BUT, UH, I'M HOPING THAT

22:42 THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION AT

22:43 LEAST UM, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC

22:46 SAFETY ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S A

22:47 PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE

22:50 WE HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW,

22:52 WALKING.

22:52 DOWN THE.

22:52 STREET.

22:53 UM, THAT WE CAN TRY TO FIND

22:55 A WAY ON HOW TO MAKE AT LEAST

22:57 SURFACES UM, EVEN UM AND

23:01 PEDESTRIAN UH UH FRIENDLY AND

23:03 SAFE.

23:04 UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THE PUBLIC

23:08 SAFETY ASPECT OF IT.

23:10 UH, WHAT.

23:10 WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD.

23:12 LIKE WHEN WOULD YOU KNOW

23:13 PUBLIC WORKS JUMP IN AND SAY

23:15 HEY THIS THIS THIS NEEDS SOME

23:17 ATTENTION.

23:19 SO TYPICALLY WE'LL GET EITHER A

23:20 CASE VIA 311 OR FROM CITY

23:23 COUNSELORS OFFICE OR.

23:24 FROM THE.

23:25 THE FIFTH FLOOR OWNERS WILL

23:27 FLAG AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN

23:28 RAISED TO THEM AND WE'LL GO

23:29 TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

23:31 UM YOU KNOW IF IT'S A RIM

23:33 BUSTER OR SOMETHING THAT'S

23:34 REALLY BAD, WE'LL GO FIX IT.

23:36 UM, YOU KNOW, USE TEMPORARY

23:37 PATCH.

23:38 UH, WE'LL CATCH IT TEMPORARILY.

23:39 RIGHT.

23:39 KNOWING THAT THE ISSUE IS GOING

23:40 TO POP UP AGAIN 99% OF THE TIME

23:43 IT'S WATER RELATED, RIGHT?

23:44 YOU KNOW, WATER CARVED OUT THE

23:46 GRAND CANYON.

23:47 SO YOU KNOW OUR PRIVATE IS IN

23:49 ALLEYS AREN'T AREN'T ANY MATCH

23:51 FOR IT BUT BASICALLY HOW BAD IS

23:53 THE POTHOLE?

23:54 UM YOU KNOW I THINK UH IN

23:57 COUNCIL IT DEPENDS DISTRICT IS

23:57 THAT SOME UP IN SUMMIT STREET

23:59 THERE THAT'S KIND OF JUST TOO

24:02 FAR GONE FOR ANY TYPE

24:03 OF TEMPORARY REPAIR.

24:04 UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S

24:06 JUST YEARS AND YEARS OF NEGLECT

24:08 .

24:08 UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THROWING SOME

24:11 ASPHALT INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE

24:12 WOULDN'T WE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE

24:14 TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S.

24:15 JUST IT'S.

24:16 JUST TOO LARGE.

24:16 BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND

24:19 OF WE SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT TO

24:21 TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I'LL SAY

24:22 YES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YES

24:23 THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A

24:24 PROBLEM FOR AN AMBULANCE OR

24:25 SOMETHING OR NO, THIS IS, YOU

24:27 KNOW, MINOR AND COSMETIC AND

24:29 YOU KNOW THE THE ABOUT IT IS

24:30 REALLY NEED TO TO TO STEP UP

24:32 HERE AND FIX IT.

24:32 GOT IT MY MY LAST QUESTION I

24:35 SEE THE HAND RAISED IS AND YOU

24:37 KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE STATE

24:38 LAW UM YOU KNOW THE LEGALITY

24:42 OF TOUCHING THE STREET AND THE

24:43 LIABILITY LIKE WHAT NEGATIVE

24:45 IMPACTS.

24:45 WOULD YOU SEE.

24:49 IN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY

24:51 LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING

24:53 THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED

24:54 ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO

24:57 JUST RESURFACE A PRIVATE WAY?

25:01 UM, WELL NEGATIVE IMPACTS I

25:03 GUESS AT THIS POINT WITH THE

25:05 STATE LAW AS IT IS IT WOULD BE

25:06 ILLEGAL.

25:07 YOU KNOW.

25:08 WHAT IS IT WHAT LIKE WHAT IS

25:10 COULD YOU'VE GONE IN THERE.

25:12 YOU SAID PUBLIC SAFETY LIKE.

25:14 WHAT IS IT?

25:14 I HAVEN'T READ THE LAW.

25:15 IN FULL.

25:16 I'M AWARE OF IT BUT WHAT ARE

25:17 THE CONSEQUENCES.

25:19 I DON'T KNOW UM OKAY.

25:21 IT'S CAUSED US TO CAUSE US TO

25:23 KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE DO.

25:24 I THINK THERE'S A THRESHOLD YOU

25:25 CAN ONLY DO UP TO 25%.

25:27 NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST

25:28 ROADWAY AND SIDEWALKS ARE

25:29 THAT'S PART OF THAT 20 I DON'T

25:31 KNOW WHAT THAT 25% IS.

25:33 IS THAT THE WHOLE COST OF UH,

25:35 RECORDING THE YOU KNOW, THE

25:36 DRAINAGE AND LIGHTING AND

25:37 UTILITY MOVEMENT AND WHATEVER

25:39 ELSE THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW,

25:40 UM, UH CONSTRUCTION IF THAT'S

25:42 ALL INTO THAT 25% UM, YOU KNOW,

25:46 WE'RE STILL GOING TO OPERATE ON

25:47 IF A FIRE TRUCK OR AN AMBULANCE

25:48 CAN GET THERE, YOU KNOW,

25:50 QUICKLY AND SAFELY THAT'S

25:52 THAT'S KIND OF OUR THRESHOLD

25:54 NOW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE

25:55 PROBABLY GOING TO MAINTAIN AS

25:56 FAR AS THE HIGHWAY YOU KNOW,

25:57 HIGHWAY DIVISION GOES UM, YOU

26:00 KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO TO TO

26:03 RESURFACE THAT'S A LARGER

26:04 CONVERSATION THAT'S PROBABLY

26:05 GONNA HAVE TO INVOLVE LEGAL AND

26:06 ENGINEERING.

26:07 UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BUT WE'LL

26:10 STILL YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS FOR

26:13 ACCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH,

26:14 PUBLIC SAFETY.

26:15 ALL RIGHT.

26:17 THANK YOU FOR.

26:18 BEING KIND.

26:18 OF.

26:18 BROUGHT.

26:21 THANK YOU.

26:21 UM, COUNCILOR FLYNN AND.

26:22 OH, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE

26:23 YOU'VE BEEN JOINED BY

26:24 COUNCILOR WEBER.

26:25 AND GO AHEAD.

26:26 COUNCIL FOR.

26:29 THE MORNING.

26:29 DO YOU.

26:30 WANT TO COUNCIL?

26:33 SAY, UM, AGAIN WANT TO THANK

26:39 COUNCILOR?

26:42 DANN?

26:43 TELL ME WHAT THE THE PROCESS IS

26:46 OR THE PROCESS OF FILLING THE

26:48 POTHOLE.

26:50 SO AND I KNOW IT'S WE'RE

26:52 TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PRIVATE

26:54 AREAS BUT.

26:55 CITY WIDE WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE

26:58 OR NO LET'S START WITH PUBLIC.

27:00 JUST TELL ME THE PROCESS WHEN

27:01 IT COMES INTO UM THE 311 APP

27:04 HOW DOES TELL ME THE PROCESS

27:06 FROM THEN HOW HOW IT ACTUALLY

27:08 GETS DONE FILLING THE POTHOLE.

27:10 SURE.

27:11 SO A CASE WILL COME IN AS

27:12 POTHOLE UM AND I ADVOCATED SO

27:13 WE JUST WE JUST OVERHAULED OUR

27:15 OUR BACK OFFICE THREE UM.

27:16 SYSTEM AND I ADVOCATED STRONGLY

27:19 TO GET IT CHANGED FROM POTHOLE

27:21 TO ROADWAY DEFECT I WAS

27:23 OVERRULED.

27:24 UM.

27:25 BUT YOU KNOW, A POTHOLE IS A

27:26 TYPE OF ROLE THAT.

27:27 SEEMS IN THE.

27:30 GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T DOESN'T

27:31 CREATE SO THEY'LL JUST CREATE A

27:33 POTHOLE.

27:33 CASE AND COME INTO THE.

27:35 DISTRICT YARD.

27:36 SO TAKE.

27:36 A LOOK AT IT WHERE SOMEBODY HAS

27:37 BACKGROUND NOISE IF YOU CAN UM

27:39 MUTE THAT UH I WOULD APPRECIATE

27:41 IT BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY HEAR

27:42 TO.

27:42 PROTECT UH, YOU UM IT WILL COME

27:46 UP IN CONVERSATION IN TEXT

27:49 MESSAGES.

27:50 COUNCILOR QUINN.

27:52 HE IS, UH, MADAM CHAIR.

27:54 I THINK YOU UM YOU HAVE UH YOU

27:55 HAVE BACKGROUND NOISE.

27:57 UM.

27:58 UM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND

27:59 JUST MUTING YOURSELF.

27:59 SORRY.

28:00 YEAH.

28:00 THANK YOU.

28:01 IT'S VERY OKAY.

28:04 BUT FOR NOW.

28:05 I I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING

28:07 COMING OVER.

28:08 OKAY.

28:13 SO WE'LL GET A CASE FOR A

28:14 POTHOLE.

28:15 UM, IT'LL COME IN TO THE

28:16 DISTRICT YARD SUPERVISOR.

28:17 UM, IF THERE'S A PICTURE

28:18 ATTACHED, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE

28:20 TO DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER IT'S A

28:22 POTHOLE.

28:22 UM, UTILITY CASTING ISSUE,

28:25 UTILITY, UH, CUT ISSUE, UM, YOU

28:28 KNOW, OR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE

28:30 IT DOESN'T GET HANDLED BY THE

28:31 HIGHWAY DIVISION.

28:32 UM, IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE OURS

28:34 AND WE OWN IT, UM, IT'LL BE,

28:36 YOU KNOW, ADDED TO A PATCH LIST

28:39 FOR THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY'RE

28:40 OUT PATCHING TYPICALLY THIS

28:41 TIME OF YEAR GOES PATCHING

28:43 MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.

28:45 UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE IN MARCH

28:47 AND APRIL, UM, THEY'RE PATCHING

28:49 PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY.

28:51 UM, SO WE'LL GO OUT AND PATCH

28:53 IT UM, IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY

28:55 UM, CASE IS USUALLY YOU KNOW,

28:58 DEPENDING ON HOW IT LOOK IF

28:59 THERE'S A PICTURE DEPENDING ON

29:00 HOW IT LOOKS.

29:00 CASE IS USUALLY CLOSED AS YOU

29:02 KNOW, PRIVATE WAY.

29:03 UM, ABUTTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE

29:04 FOR REPAIRS NOW IT CAN BE

29:07 CLOSED THAT WAY.

29:08 AND IF THE SUPERVISOR DEEMS

29:09 THAT HEY, THIS IS GOING TO

29:11 CAUSE A PROBLEM IF AN AMBULANCE

29:12 TRIES TO GET DOWN HERE OR A

29:13 LADDER TRUCK OR EVEN IF WE USE

29:16 IT TO COLLECT UH TO ACCESS FOR

29:17 TRASH COLLECTION FOR

29:18 RESIDENTIAL TRASH COLLECTION

29:19 THEY'LL GO PATCH IT.

29:21 HOWEVER, THE RESIDENT WILL

29:22 STILL GET THE NOTIFICATION VIA

29:23 THE APP THAT UM YOU KNOW IT'S A

29:27 PRIVATE WAY ABUTTERS ARE

29:28 RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS.

29:30 OKAY.

29:31 DAN, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME.

29:35 THEN AS I MENTIONED IN MY

29:37 OPENING, I'M WORKING WITH

29:39 CHINATOWN RESIDENTS ON AN ISSUE

29:41 AS IT RELATES TO A PRIVATE WAY

29:43 UM WITH WITH THE WATER AND

29:45 SEWER RELATED ISSUES.

29:47 UM, BUT HOW DOES HOW DOES

29:50 PUBLIC WORKS WORK WITH UM

29:53 BOSTON WATER AND SEWER ON THESE

29:56 TYPES OF ISSUES?

29:57 IS THERE UM.

30:02 IS DO YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE UM

30:05 LOGISTICALLY WHEN TO DO PLOT

30:07 HOLES BUT IS THERE OPPORTUNITY

30:09 TO DO WORK WITH WATER AND SEWER

30:13 AT THE SAME TIME OR ARE THEY

30:15 SEPARATE ISSUES?

30:18 SO IF IT'S.

30:18 JUST A SURFACE POTHOLE ON

30:19 OUR ROADWAYS VERY YOU KNOW WE

30:21 DON'T NEED TO COORDINATE WITH

30:22 WATER AND SEWER.

30:23 UM, CERTAINLY IN THE SPRING

30:25 TIME A LOT OF THE ISSUES ON OUR

30:27 PUBLIC ROADWAYS ARE DEFECTS

30:30 AROUND UH, CATCH BASINS AND

30:32 WATER SHUT OFFS, UM, AND ALL

30:34 THE OTHER UTILITIES.

30:34 I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT

30:35 WATER AND SEWER, BUT IF WE GET

30:36 A CASE FOR THAT WE'LL JUST, UH

30:38 ,REALLOCATED OVER TO, UM,

30:40 WATER AND SEWER.

30:41 AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE

30:42 RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS WITHIN

30:44 30IN OF ANY OF THEIR

30:45 INFRASTRUCTURE.

30:46 SO ALL UTILITIES OR ANY

30:47 OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE

30:48 MANHOLES SHUT OFFS, UM, YOU

30:51 KNOW, PULL BOXES THEY'RE

30:52 RESPONSIBLE FOR 30IN AROUND

30:54 EACH UM YOU KNOW, EACH ASSET.

30:58 OKAY.

31:00 SO THE CUT PHASE AND I THEY

31:04 ALWAYS ON UH PUBLIC PROPERTY OR

31:08 DO YOU HAVE MANY THAT ARE UM ON

31:10 PRIVATE.

31:11 MOST ARE ON PUBLIC.

31:12 THERE ARE SOME UM IN PRIVATE

31:15 WAYS.

31:16 SOME ARE OWNED BY WATER AND

31:17 SEWER.

31:18 SOME ARE ACTUALLY PRIVATE

31:19 DRAINS.

31:20 OKAY OKAY.

31:23 IN IN A.

31:25 ONE ISSUE I'M ALWAYS THINKING

31:27 ABOUT IS ON BEACH STREET BUT

31:30 WHEN WHEN THE ROAD YOU KNOW

31:34 MAYBE IT'S POORLY DESIGNED YOU

31:36 KNOW GOING BACK 7080 YEARS UM

31:42 BUT IF THE WATER IF THE WATER.

31:45 CONTINUES TO BE IN THE CATCH.

31:49 BASIN AFTER AFTER A RAINSTORM.

31:51 AND THERE NEEDS TO BE.

31:54 IMPROVEMENTS UM, HOW DOES HOW

31:58 DOES THAT PROCESS WORK WHERE.

32:00 YOU NEED TO YOU NEED.

32:02 TO WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE

32:04 AND AROUND THE CATCH BASIN BUT

32:06 WORKING WITH WATER AND SEWER

32:08 AND AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL IS

32:11 THAT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SAY

32:13 YEAH.

32:13 SO WE'LL GET CASES FOR PUDDLES

32:15 I THINK WHEN WE STARTED DOING

32:17 UM PEDESTRIAN BUMP OUTS FOR

32:18 RAMPS WE RAN INTO A LOT

32:21 OF PROBLEMS.

32:22 UM THAT'S A REGRADING ISSUE

32:23 THAT WE CAN ADDRESS VIA UM YOU

32:25 KNOW, RESURFACING NORMAN PARKS

32:26 AND HIS CREW OVER AT UM AN

32:29 ENGINEERING YOU KNOW, THEY CAN

32:30 COME IN UH, I THINK LET'S SAY

32:32 EAST SPRINGFIELD AT HARRISON

32:34 WAS ONE THEY DID LAST YEAR.

32:35 THAT WAS A BIG ONE.

32:36 UM.

32:38 IF YOU.

32:38 KNOW THE CATCH BASIN ISN'T

32:39 TAKING WATER, THAT WOULD BE A

32:41 WATER AND SEWER ISSUE.

32:42 UM, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS

32:44 THAT THEY CAN DO.

32:44 THEY CAN CLEAN THE ACTUAL CATCH

32:45 BASIN.

32:46 THEY CAN CHECK THE LATERAL

32:47 PIPES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE

32:48 TAKING WATER.

32:49 UM, YOU KNOW, UM THAT'S REALLY

32:53 KIND OF THE THE TRUTH THE TWO

32:54 BIGGEST FIXES FOR THAT I MEAN A

32:56 SIMPLE THING WOULD BE JUST TO

32:58 CREATE A311 CASE AND JUST KIND

32:59 OF OUTLINE WHAT'S HAPPENING

33:00 THAT WATER IS BEING HELD OR THE

33:02 CATCH BASIN ISN'T.

33:04 TAKING WATER.

33:05 INTO MY FINAL QUESTION.

33:08 SO ENGINEERING IS.

33:09 ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

33:11 ENGINEERING AT WATER AND SEWER

33:13 ENGINEERING THEY'RE PUBLIC

33:14 WORKS BUT ALSO YOU MENTIONED

33:16 LEGAL SO THEY'RE ALL PART

33:19 OF DISCUSSIONS AS RELATES TO UH

33:22 PRIVATE ALLEYS.

33:23 SO IS THAT ACCURATE?

33:25 UM SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO

33:26 EACH LIKE INDIVIDUAL 311 CASE

33:28 USUALLY NO THAT'S HANDLED ON

33:29 THE HIGHWAY LEVEL AND WITH THE

33:31 SUPERVISOR UM AND LIKE I SAID

33:33 WE DON'T WE WE WE ADVISE THE

33:35 UM.

33:36 CONSTITUENT THAT UNFORTUNATELY

33:38 REPAIRS ARE ON THE A BUTTER AND

33:40 IF WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC

33:43 SAFETY WE WILL GO FIX IT WHILE.

33:45 STILL.

33:45 CLOSING THE CASE THAT WE'RE NOT

33:46 GOING TO FIX IT.

33:47 UM, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE

33:49 WHEN THEY CREATE THE 311 MAYBE

33:51 THEY'VE BEEN MISLED BY A REAL

33:52 ESTATE AGENT.

33:53 SHOCKING.

33:54 UM OR THEY JUST DON'T

33:55 UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ON A

33:56 PRIVATE WAY AND THEY SEE THIS

33:58 THEY SEE THE ROAD IN FRONT

33:59 OF THE HOUSE.

33:59 IT LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR STREET,

34:00 RIGHT?

34:00 ACTS AS A REGULAR STREET.

34:01 UM, AND THEY SAY WELL THIS IS

34:03 TERRIBLE.

34:03 THIS NEEDS TO GET FIXED.

34:04 THE CITY SHOULD BE FIXING IT I

34:05 PAY TAXES HOWEVER THERE IS THAT

34:08 THE STATE LAW WE CAN'T USE

34:10 PUBLIC FUNDS TO FIX PRIVATE

34:11 PROPERTY.

34:12 UM.

34:13 YOU KNOW SO.

34:14 SO THERE IS A YOU KNOW, A BIT

34:17 OF CONFUSION ON THAT, YOU KNOW

34:19 THE THE THE BETTERMENT PROCESS.

34:21 YEP.

34:21 ENGINEERING IS FULLY INVOLVED.

34:23 YOU KNOW THEY TAKE THE LEAD

34:24 THEY RUN THE ASSESSMENT THEY

34:25 THEY DO THE SURVEY.

34:26 YOU KNOW THAT'S IF WE GET UM

34:29 YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THE CORRECT

34:31 NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE

34:32 PETITION I THINK WE NEED OVER

34:33 50% OF HOMEOWNERS TO AGREE TO

34:37 UM FOR BETTERMENT.

34:38 UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE

34:39 PROCESS THERE THAT GOES ON.

34:40 I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN

34:42 IN THE PAST 15 YEARS THERE'S

34:44 ONLY BEEN FOUR STREETS THAT

34:45 HAVE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE

34:47 PROCESS.

34:48 OKAY, OKAY.

34:49 MADAM CHAIR, I.

34:50 WAS.

34:51 GOING TO.

34:51 ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BUT I

34:52 DIDN'T WANT TO ASK IF, UM, MY

34:53 TIME IS UP OR WITHOUT

34:55 PERMISSION.

34:56 I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM,

34:58 ASK.

34:58 OKAY.

34:59 IT'LL BE A BRIEF QUESTION.

35:00 SO DAN, IF IF IF PUBLIC.

35:03 WORKS DOES FIX THE POTHOLE ON A

35:05 PRIVATE STREETS.

35:06 THE THE RESIDENTS.

35:08 MOST LIKELY ARE RESPONSIBLE

35:10 FOR.

35:10 PAYING PAYING.

35:11 FOR HOW.

35:12 DO THEY GET A BILL.

35:14 UM THE DO THEY.

35:16 DO THEY THEY JUST.

35:17 GOT A BILL IN THE MAIL FROM

35:18 PUBLIC WORKS OR DID IT.

35:21 DOES THE.

35:22 OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LISTED

35:23 GET A BILL?

35:25 JUST JUST TELL ME THE LOGISTICS

35:26 OF THAT PLACE.

35:28 SO IF WE FIX.

35:28 A POTHOLE WE DO NOT BILL UM

35:30 WE'RE FIXING THE POTHOLE UNDER

35:31 THE GUISE THAT WE NEED TO, YOU

35:33 KNOW, HAVE ACCESS FOR

35:36 AMBULANCES, FIRE TRUCKS THAT

35:37 THAT TYPE OF THING.

35:38 UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING

35:40 ABOUT IS IF THEY WERE TO GO

35:41 THROUGH THE THE BETTERMENT

35:42 PROCESS WHERE PUBLIC WORKS COME

35:44 IN AND JUST DID THE WHOLE RECON

35:45 RIGHT ADDED THE PUBLIC, YOU

35:46 KNOW, ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM

35:49 ,RESURFACED THEN THERE WOULD

35:50 BE AN ASSESSMENT CALCULATED.

35:52 THEY WOULD.

35:53 KNOW THAT.

35:54 BEFORE THEY AGREED TO TO MOVE

35:55 FORWARD.

35:56 I BELIEVE I'M GETTING A IT'S

35:58 NOT MY I SPENT SOME TIME THIS

36:00 WEEK LEARNING ABOUT IT BUT I

36:02 BELIEVE THERE'S A YOU KNOW.

36:03 THERE'S THE THERE'S.

36:04 THE VOTE TO THERE'S THE

36:05 PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE

36:06 AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS

36:08 THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A

36:10 SURVEY AND SAY OKAY GENERALLY

36:11 IT'S GOING TO COST THIS AMOUNT

36:13 AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC

36:14 MEETING AFTER THAT.

36:17 SO OKAY WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY

36:18 GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.

36:19 THAT'S HOW IT'S OUTLINED TO ME.

36:20 IT WAS OUTLINED TO ME.

36:22 OKAY EXCELLENT.

36:23 UH THANK YOU DAN THANK YOU

36:24 MADAM CHAIR FOR GIVING ME AN

36:25 EXTRA MINUTE.

36:27 UH THANK YOU.

36:28 I DON'T SEE COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE

36:29 ON THE CALL ANYMORE.

36:30 UM, SO WE WILL GO TO

36:33 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND THEN

36:34 COUNCILOR WEBER.

36:36 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

36:38 UH, AND THANK YOU, DAVE FOR

36:39 BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.

36:41 UM.

36:42 IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER

36:43 EVERY STREET IF.

36:44 THIS WERE TO PASS AND SAY EVERY

36:45 PRIVATE WAY BECOMES OWNED BY BY

36:47 UH BY STREETS BUT BY THE CITY,

36:50 UM, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WOULD

36:51 WE HAVE TO ADD DO YOU THINK

36:53 MAYBE I I PROBABLY YOU PROBABLY

36:54 HAVE AN EXACT AMOUNT BUT A

36:55 GUESSTIMATE OF LIKE HOW MANY

36:56 MORE EMPLOYEES WOULD THAT TAKE

36:58 AND WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD.

36:59 SORT OF A BALLPARK.

37:01 COST BE TO TAKE THAT ON?

37:04 BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF TO

37:05 ME THAT BRIGHT IDEA.

37:06 TO THAT QUESTION.

37:07 BUT TO ME THAT'S THE CRUX

37:08 OF THIS, RIGHT.

37:08 LIKE WE COULD DO THIS BUT LIKE

37:10 AT WHAT COST DOES IT COME AND

37:11 ARE WE ABLE TO FILL THAT AND

37:13 THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES HEALTH

37:15 CARE, PENSIONS ETC. THAT WOULD

37:17 GO ALONG WITH THAT?

37:18 YEAH I MEAN AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES

37:21 CERTAINLY ENGINEER ENGINEERING

37:23 IS UNDERSTAFFED AS IT IS AS

37:24 THEY ARE AT MOST YOU KNOW MOST

37:26 DIVISIONS AT THIS POINT.

37:26 BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE A LOT UM

37:31 I COULD TRY TO MAYBE TALK TO

37:33 SOME FOLKS OVER IN ENGINEERING.

37:34 UM I MEAN THE AMOUNT OF WORK

37:36 THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE

37:37 ADDING SIDEWALKS AND MOVING

37:38 UTILITIES AND WATER AND SEWER

37:40 INVOLVEMENT AND AND CATCH

37:42 BASINS AND MOVING DRAINS AND IF

37:44 THE SOME OF THESE HOUSES ARE ON

37:46 SEPTIC SYSTEMS, ODDLY ENOUGH UM

37:48 UH.

37:50 I ANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS I

37:52 YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE A LOT.

37:54 YEAH AND THAT'S.

37:55 JUST.

37:55 THAT'S JUST TO GET THEM UP.

37:57 TO CODE.

37:57 AND WITH THAT AND LET.

38:00 ALONE THE.

38:01 ONGOING MAINTENANCE.

38:02 AS WE.

38:02 WOULD GIVE ANY OTHER STREET

38:03 GOING FORWARD.

38:04 CORRECT.

38:05 AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT

38:06 RESIDENTS WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.

38:07 I MEAN WE GET CHALLENGED MOST

38:09 TIMES WE GO OUT AND PATCH A

38:11 POTHOLE.

38:12 THERE ARE FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT

38:13 IT.

38:14 THEY DON'T WANT US ON THEIR

38:15 STREET BECAUSE NOW IT'S UH

38:17 SHARON STREET, RIGHT?

38:18 IT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE

38:18 OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO

38:20 THROUGH THE PROCESS.

38:20 THE RESIDENT VOTED IT DOWN

38:22 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO

38:23 BE A CUT THROUGH THE STREET, UH

38:24 SPEEDING.

38:26 SO IT THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE

38:28 HERE.

38:29 WITH IS THERE ANY.

38:30 BENEFIT WHEN IT IS BY THE WAY I

38:32 MEAN ARE THEY TAXED MORE ON IT.

38:34 IS THERE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO

38:36 AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY WHEN

38:37 THEY LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY?

38:39 UM I LOST YOU A LITTLE BIT BUT

38:41 I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ARE THEY

38:42 IS THERE ANY BENEFIT I THINK SO

38:45 AGAIN I'VE LIVED AS

38:47 COUNCILOR FLYNN KNOWS ON A

38:48 PRIVATE WAVE SINCE 1978.

38:51 IT'S ALMOST LIKE OUR OWN

38:52 PARKING.

38:52 UM, WE OWN THE PROPERTY SO YOU

38:55 KNOW, YOU GET TOGETHER WITH THE

38:56 FOLKS.

38:57 I SAID LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE.

38:58 WE HAVE WHAT SIX HOUSES ON ON

38:59 THE PRIVATE WAY WE ALL AND GET

39:01 TOGETHER AND SHARE LIKE

39:03 OWNERSHIP OF IT.

39:04 UM WE ALSO HAVE TO CLEAN IT.

39:06 WE ALSO HAVE TO SHOVEL IT.

39:08 UM YEAH.

39:08 YOU KNOW.

39:09 I GET THAT.

39:10 YEAH.

39:11 IS THERE ANY TAX DIFFERENCE.

39:13 LIKE THE AMOUNT OF.

39:14 PROPERTY IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY

39:16 IS IT.

39:17 SPLIT INDIVIDUALLY?

39:18 IS IT ADDED SQUARE FOOTAGE TO

39:19 SOMEBODY'S.

39:20 TAX BASE.

39:21 THAT THEY WOULD BE TAXED UPON

39:22 AND IF IT WERE TAKEN AWAY MIGHT

39:24 THEY SEE THEIR TAXES GO DOWN IF

39:25 IT WAS A PUBLIC STREET OR NOT?

39:29 UH I JUST GOT MY TAX BILL LAST

39:31 WEEK.

39:32 UM I DON'T THINK IT'S ADDED TO

39:34 THE TAX BILL.

39:35 I DON'T KNOW I DON'T.

39:36 I DON'T THINK IT IS BUT I

39:37 DON'T KNOW.

39:38 NO THAT'S I WAS JUST WONDERING

39:39 IF LIKE THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO

39:40 SAY HEY IF YOU DO IT THAT'S

39:41 LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU TAXED

39:43 ON ETC. OR THE PROPERTY IF YOU

39:45 YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR

39:46 PROPERTY RIGHT?

39:46 IT'S NOT A ROAD WE NEED TO GO

39:48 DOWN THERE BUT I JUST THESE ARE

39:50 THE I THINK.

39:51 THE BENEFIT THE BENEFIT

39:52 WOULD BE RIGHT HAVING HAVE IT

39:53 BE RESURFACED EVERY 20 OR 30

39:55 YEARS HOWEVER WE KNOW I THINK

39:56 THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT AND

39:57 HAVING YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S

39:58 SWEPT AND.

39:59 YEAH MAINTAINED AND SNOW AND

40:00 ICE MAYBE GOTCHA.

40:02 SO I MEAN I THINK THE MAIN

40:04 THING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS THIS

40:05 WOULD THIS WOULD BE A VERY

40:07 EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING.

40:09 UH ADD THEM ON EXTREMELY

40:11 EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING I THINK

40:12 THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT UH.

40:13 KEY THAT I WANT UH THAT I WANT

40:16 TO TAKE NOTE OF.

40:16 UM, AND.

40:17 THAT'S ALL THE TIME AT MY OTHER

40:19 COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME GREAT

40:19 QUESTIONS AND SO ON TO THE, UH,

40:20 WHAT FOLKS NEED TO DO WHEN THEY

40:22 DO HAVE ONE AND WHAT THE.

40:23 OTHER.

40:23 ADVANTAGES DECISIONS MIGHT BE.

40:24 SO, UH, I'M ALL SET.

40:26 CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

40:27 THE TIME OF DAY.

40:28 THANK YOU.

40:29 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD

40:32 .

40:32 COUNCILOR WEBER.

40:37 YEAH.

40:38 THANK YOU.

40:39 UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?

40:45 WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU, BUT MY

40:47 INTERNET HAS BEEN BAD, SO.

40:48 I DON'T I'M NOT.

40:49 A.

40:50 GOOD JUDGE OF THIS, BUT I THINK

40:52 YOU'RE COMING IN CLEAR NOW.

40:54 OKAY.

40:55 THANK YOU.

40:56 UH, YEAH.

40:57 I, UH I LIVED OUT A PRIVATE WAY

40:59 FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN JP

41:02 ADELAIDE TERRACE AND IT WAS

41:03 LIKE, UH, A GRAVEL UH, SORT

41:07 OF ROAD AND WE WORKED WITH THE

41:09 NEIGHBORS.

41:09 THERE'S ALSO A DEAD END.

41:12 UM BUT I GUESS IT WAS ONE ISSUE

41:14 WITH THIS PAVING WE HAD TALKED

41:17 ABOUT PAVING OUR PRIVATE WAY

41:18 BUT WITHOUT THE OTHER

41:20 INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS

41:22 SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD JUST

41:24 FUNCTION AS SORT OF LIKE, UH, A

41:26 SLIDE FOR WATER TO GO INTO OUR

41:28 BASEMENT AND STUFF.

41:29 BUT HE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT

41:31 ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT

41:33 ELSE WE WOULD YOU NEED TO PUT

41:35 IN AND WHEN YOU PAVE AT LEAST

41:37 ONE OF THESE GRAVEL PRIVATE

41:39 WAYS.

41:40 YEAH.

41:41 SO WE'VE RUN INTO THE

41:42 PROBLEMS LIKE THAT UP THE

41:43 GROVE, UM, THAT WE DO USE TO

41:45 ACCESS FOR TRASH.

41:46 UM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND

41:48 ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN

41:50 MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL,

41:51 YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY

41:53 THAT THE WATER RUNS OFF IT'S

41:54 COME INTO OUR BASEMENT.

41:56 THAT TYPE OF THING.

41:57 SO YEAH, ANY TYPE OF YOU KNOW,

42:01 CHANGE LIKE THAT TO THE TO THE

42:02 ROADWAY OR TO THE IT DOES

42:04 AFFECT DRAINAGE ESPECIALLY IF

42:05 THERE ARE NO CATCH BASINS OR IF

42:07 THERE IS NO YOU KNOW, NO SYSTEM

42:09 SET UP TO CAPTURE THAT WATER.

42:13 OKAY.

42:14 YEAH I UH SO JUST I, I I'M

42:17 IN MY CAR BECAUSE I AM IN THE

42:20 GROVE AND I WANTED TO, UH, BE

42:23 ABLE TO TALK TO YOU FROM HERE.

42:25 UM SO THERE THE THE POTHOLES IN

42:28 THE GROVE RANGE FROM UH I DON'T

42:31 KNOW, LIKE THOSE THE SIZE OF A

42:34 LARGE TURTLE TO LIKE THE SIZE

42:36 OF A SHERMAN TANK.

42:37 UH, SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE

42:41 OKAY, SO CAN YOU FILL THE

42:44 SMALLER POTHOLES IN THE GROVE

42:45 WITH ASPHALT?

42:46 WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?

42:49 SO WE WOULDN'T USE ASPHALT.

42:50 UP THERE.

42:51 YOU WANT TO USE WHAT'S EXISTING

42:52 ?

42:52 UH, ASPHALT IS UP.

42:53 YOU KNOW WHEN IT WHEN IT CURES.

42:55 IT'S A HARD STATIONARY MATERIAL

42:57 UP THERE.

42:58 THE GRAVEL KIND OF MOVES IN

43:00 FLOWS AS IT GETS SATURATED AS

43:01 IT FREEZES AS IT DRIES OUT.

43:03 UM, THAT WOULD JUST USING

43:05 ASPHALT WOULD JUST CAUSE A

43:06 PROBLEM.

43:08 UM I BELIEVE WAS TWO YEARS AGO

43:09 ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE

43:10 GROVE ACTUALLY CALLED THE EPA

43:12 ON US BECAUSE WE WERE USING

43:13 MAILINGS TO FILL UM, SAYING

43:14 THAT IT WAS A HAZARDOUS

43:16 MATERIAL.

43:16 IT WASN'T IT'S A ACCEPTED

43:18 ROADWAY MATERIAL.

43:19 UM.

43:20 THE GROVE.

43:21 IS A TOUGH ONE.

43:22 THE GROVES ARE TOUGH ON MOST

43:23 OF THE FOLKS UP THERE DON'T

43:24 WANT DON'T.

43:25 WANT US UP THERE.

43:26 UM, THERE IS A THERE IS A

43:28 GENTLEMAN UP THERE THAT DOES

43:30 HAVE A, UH A LITTLE SKID STEER

43:31 LIKE A BOBCAT.

43:32 UM, I THINK I TALKED TO FREDDIE

43:34 UH, LAST NIGHT THE LIKE WE DID

43:36 DUMP, UM, SOME MAILINGS FOR HIM

43:38 TWO YEARS AGO AND HE WOULD KIND

43:40 OF UPKEEP UP THERE.

43:41 UM, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT

43:43 PLACE TO TO GO EVERY TIME WE GO

43:45 UP THERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT US

43:46 THERE THAT THEY'RE CALLING TO

43:47 GET US OUT.

43:47 THEY'RE CALLING THE.

43:48 POLICE.

43:48 ON US.

43:49 UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE

43:52 CRITERIA IS, YOU KNOW, CAN AN

43:55 AMBULANCE OR A FIRE TRUCK MAKE

43:57 IT THROUGH IF NEEDED?

44:02 AND THAT CANISTER OR.

44:07 UH.

44:07 I'VE TRAVELED.

44:13 WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE?

44:14 BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ENORMOUS

44:16 POTHOLES IN HERE THERE THAT

44:18 WOULD JUST AS WELL AS THE CAR.

44:19 I DIDN'T GET ALL OF YOUR

44:21 QUESTION BUT I I.

44:25 YEAH I MEAN HOW DO YOU THINK

44:27 YOU CAN GET AN AMBULANCE TO THE

44:29 GROVE?

44:30 I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.

44:33 I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF THE

44:35 QUESTION.

44:38 UH I I GUESS THAT YOU CAN YOU

44:40 GET A FIRE TRUCK THROUGH THE

44:41 GROVE IS MY QUESTION.

44:45 UM, YEAH.

44:46 YES.

44:46 I'VE SEEN IT.

44:47 YEAH.

44:49 UH, OKAY.

44:51 UM I, UH AND SO, UH, IF IF

44:59 PEOPLE HAVE SO EVEN ON THESE

45:02 MIXED UH, SORT OF GRAVEL

45:05 SURFACE ROADS THEY CAN SOME

45:07 PEOPLE CAN FILE A311 AND AND

45:11 THE CITY WILL COME OUT AND

45:13 PERHAPS FILL THOSE HOLES.

45:17 SO GROVE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT

45:18 OF A DIFFERENT UH YOU.

45:19 KNOW, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT

45:21 DIFFERENT.

45:21 BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I I GOT

45:23 THAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS

45:24 NOT ON GROVE HARDLY.

45:26 WELL, YOU KNOW ADELAIDE UH YOU

45:29 KNOW OTHER OTHER PLACES UM IS

45:32 THE RECOMMENDATION FOR JUST THE

45:34 POTHOLES TO TO FOLLOW TRAIL ON

45:36 ONE.

45:37 UM YEAH.

45:38 YEAH.

45:39 YOU KNOW.

45:40 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, YOU

45:41 KNOW.

45:41 IT IS GOING TO GET CLOSED OUT

45:43 ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THAT IT'S A

45:45 PRIVATE WAY BUT IS RESPONSIBLE

45:46 FOR REPAIR.

45:47 BUT WHAT.

45:48 THAT DOES IS THE INSPECTOR

45:50 OR SUPERVISOR IN THE IN THE

45:51 DISTRICT.

45:52 WILL EVENTUALLY.

45:53 GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT UM AND

45:55 ASSESS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT

45:57 WE HAVE TO STEP IN AND REPAIR

45:58 FOR THE ABUTTERS SO THAT A FIRE

46:00 TRUCK CAN HAVE ACCESS IF THE

46:01 LADDER TRUCK CAN ACCESS THE

46:03 THE.

46:03 THE AREA?

46:07 UM, I GUESS ON THE ON THE UH

46:09 WHATEVER THE THE THE

46:10 IMPROVEMENT YOU KNOW, MAKING

46:12 THE PRIVATE PRIVATELY INTO A

46:13 PUBLIC WAY IS THERE'S IS THERE

46:16 ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY

46:18 MAKE THAT INTO A REAL PROGRAM

46:21 OR IS IT JUST THAT NO, YOU KNOW

46:23 ,VERY FEW PRIVATE WAYS WANT TO

46:25 ABSORB THE COST, UH, AND THAT

46:29 THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD TO.

46:33 TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS THAT

46:35 OURSELVES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE

46:37 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

46:40 UM UM.

46:43 SO SO IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.

46:44 UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN

46:46 FOUR STREETS IN THE PAST 15

46:47 YEARS.

46:47 I THINK WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES

46:49 IS NOT EVERYBODY LIVING ON THE

46:51 PRIVATE WAY WANTS IT TO HAPPEN.

46:52 LIKE I SAID SHARON STREET THEY

46:55 WANT IT THE WAY YOU KNOW MOST

46:56 OF THE PEOPLE THERE WANT IT THE

46:58 WAY IT IS.

46:59 UM.

46:59 YOU KNOW, IT CUTS TO THERE FOR

47:02 WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY THEY

47:04 MAYBE THEY FEAR THAT THEIR

47:05 TAXES WILL GO UP I DON'T KNOW I

47:07 CAN'T YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR WHEN

47:09 I USED TO WHEN I USED TO BE OUT

47:10 THERE ON THE ROAD LIKE THAT.

47:11 WOULD BE YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO

47:13 CAUSE FOLKS TO USE THE STREET

47:14 AS A CUT THROUGH.

47:15 WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE FLYING

47:16 THROUGH HERE.

47:17 OUR KIDS PLAY HERE, UM.

47:19 YOU KNOW SO.

47:20 SO I MEAN IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.

47:22 UM I THINK WHAT THE PROBLEM

47:24 LIES IN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO

47:26 BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET RIGHT

47:28 TO GET EVERYONE TO AGREE ON

47:30 ANYTHING REALLY.

47:30 BUT I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT

47:32 WHERE YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT

47:34 AFTER THE CITY COMES IN AND

47:36 DOES IT IT'S GOING TO BE

47:37 ASSESSED.

47:38 YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN

47:39 ASSESSMENT.

47:39 ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

47:41 SO UM SO.

47:42 YEAH AND IT JUST IN TERMS

47:43 OF THAT HOW DOES IT WORK?

47:45 IT'S ONLY I'M JUST SAYING TO

47:47 GET MORE THAN FOREST STREETS IN

47:50 15 YEARS TO PARTICIPATE NOT

47:51 THAT THE PROGRAM ISN'T ISN'T

47:52 WELL RUN UH, JUST YOU KNOW,

47:55 OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING

47:56 ADVANTAGE OF IT.

47:58 UM UH, YEAH.

48:01 SO WHAT IS THE PAYMENT PLAN

48:02 LIKE?

48:02 YOU JUST SEE IF IF IT COSTS $1

48:07 MILLION OF WORK ON THAT STREET,

48:09 WHO'S PAYING FOR IT AND HOW

48:11 DOES IT GET PAID OUT?

48:12 UM, SO IT WOULD BE AN

48:14 ASSESSMENT.

48:14 UM.

48:15 THAT'S THE THE THE.

48:17 BREADTH OF MY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT

48:19 I DON'T KNOW I, I HAVE NO IDEA

48:21 IF THEY WOULD ALLOW PAYMENT

48:22 PLANS OR IF IT'S IT'S JUST

48:24 ASSESSED TO THE TO THE PROPERTY

48:26 .

48:28 OKAY.

48:29 UH YEAH YOU GET IT IN ONE

48:31 TAX BILL THAT I'VE NEVER REALLY

48:33 UNDERSTOOD HOW THAT WORKS.

48:34 UM.

48:36 YEAH.

48:37 UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER.

48:38 DO I.

48:38 YEAH.

48:39 OKAY.

48:41 UH, OKAY.

48:41 WELL YEAH.

48:42 I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS

48:44 THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO

48:45 LIVES ON THESE PRIVATE WAYS YOU

48:47 DO OWN YOUR YOUR FRONTAGE UP TO

48:49 HALFWAY INTO THE PRIVATE WAY.

48:52 UM, AND YEAH, I'VE BEEN OUT

48:54 THERE SHOVELING, UH, YOU KNOW,

48:56 DURING THE SNOWSTORMS AND YOU

48:58 KNOW, UH, WE BOUGHT LIKE A SNOW

49:00 BLOWER, UH, AS YOU KNOW, OUR

49:03 HOUSE TO THE OTHER HOUSES WERE

49:04 RENTERS AND UM, IT WAS SORT

49:07 OF AN ENDLESS STRUGGLE.

49:08 SO I UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM IS

49:09 PROBABLY A.

49:10 LITTLE WAYS.

49:11 UM, UH, AND I YOU KNOW.

49:15 WE I ALSO GET A LOT.

49:17 OF.

49:17 PEOPLE WHO COME TO ME.

49:18 SAY I PAY TAXES.

49:19 YOU KNOW, WHY.

49:20 DOESN'T THE CITY FIX UP MY

49:21 PRIVATE WAY?

49:22 I MEAN, MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS.

49:23 I THINK IF ALL THE RULES ARE

49:25 BEING FOLLOWED LIKE THESE

49:26 HOUSES WOULDN'T EXIST AT LEAST

49:28 THE ONES THAT ADELAIDE SOMEBODY

49:29 JUST BUILT HOUSES BEHIND THEIR

49:33 PROPERTY.

49:33 UH, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S.

49:36 LIKE IT'S.

49:37 ALMOST LIKE GETTING SOMETHING.

49:38 FOR.

49:39 NOTHING IF YOU JUST CONVERT IT

49:41 INTO A PUBLIC WAY.

49:42 YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE.

49:43 THOSE YOU'RE SORT OF TAKING.

49:45 ADVANTAGE OF THE.

49:46 CITY ON.

49:47 ONE END AND THEN, YOU KNOW,

49:48 UH.

49:49 HOPING THE CITY PAYS FOR IT.

49:51 ON THE ON THE OTHER BUT UH

49:55 UM UH, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY.

49:57 I THINK I, I HAVE HEARD FROM

49:59 PEOPLE IN THE GROVE WHO WANT TO

50:00 SEE THOSE POTHOLES BEING.

50:01 FIXED AND MAYBE WE'LL DO SOME

50:02 MORE.

50:03 ORGANIZING AROUND THAT UH.

50:05 TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW.

50:06 IT.

50:07 IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET

50:08 THROUGH THERE HOPING YOU JUST.

50:10 IMPROVED IT ANYWAY.

50:11 SO, UH.

50:12 I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE WORK

50:13 THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR

50:16 FILING THIS AND THANK YOU TO

50:17 THE CHAIR.

50:19 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WEBER.

50:21 UM, YEAH.

50:22 UH, A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I

50:23 HAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BY

50:25 MY COLLEAGUES, BUT.

50:26 I DO HAVE I WANT TO KIND

50:27 OF DRILL IN MORE TO OKAY.

50:30 IF WE.

50:31 DO WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD,

50:33 UM.

50:34 YOU KNOW WHAT IT.

50:34 WHAT.

50:35 IT MAY MEAN.

50:35 JUST LIKE THE REALITY

50:36 OF LIKE THE STATE LAW AND ALL

50:39 OF THAT, UM.

50:40 AND JUST LIKE THE LIKE THE

50:42 DOING DOING A.

50:43 STREET AND THE CITY SHARING THE

50:45 COST IS A NOBLE ENDEAVOR.

50:49 LIKE I 100%.

50:50 AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE.

50:53 HELPING RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS WE

50:54 CAN.

50:55 AND FIXING ROADS, UM, TO.

50:58 LIKE THE FULLEST EXTENT THAT

51:00 WE.

51:00 CAN BUT IN LIKE THERE ARE

51:03 THINGS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY.

51:04 HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.

51:05 LIKE IN.

51:06 THE.

51:06 LONGER TERM DOES THAT

51:07 INVESTMENT MAKE.

51:09 SENSE IF FOR.

51:10 EXAMPLE WE DO JUST RESURFACING

51:12 AND THAT'S UP.

51:13 TO YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST.

51:15 ASSUMING THAT.

51:16 THAT IS UP TO 25% OF OF WHAT

51:19 NEEDS TO.

51:20 HAPPEN LIKE SHOULD WE

51:22 RESURFACE.

51:23 IF ULTIMATELY THAT.

51:24 DRAINAGE AND THIS HAS HAPPENED.

51:26 BEFORE EVEN JUST WITH NORMAL

51:27 WORK.

51:28 IF THAT DRAINAGE.

51:29 IS GOING TO.

51:30 GO INTO PEOPLE'S.

51:30 HOMES OR IF THAT WATER.

51:32 IS GOING TO BE.

51:33 CORROSIVE AND.

51:33 IT'S GOING.

51:34 TO BE.

51:35 UM, YOU KNOW, BACK TO.

51:36 SQUARE ONE AT THE END OF THE

51:38 DAY.

51:38 AND IN JUST.

51:39 A FEW YEARS OR A COUPLE OF.

51:41 DECADES BUT I THINK IT'S

51:42 ALREADY BEEN YOU KNOW, I HAD A

51:44 FEW TECHNICAL.

51:44 QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE WHAT IT

51:45 MEANS TO.

51:46 RESURFACE WITHOUT DOING

51:47 DRAINAGE AND.

51:48 UTILITY WORK AND UM, I THINK

51:50 THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BUT.

51:51 THE THE.

51:52 ADA COMPONENT OF THIS IS

51:53 SOMETHING THAT HASN'T REALLY.

51:54 BEEN BROUGHT UP.

51:55 SO UM, PERMANENT RESURFACING MY

51:59 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT.

51:59 WOULD TRIGGER.

52:01 ADA ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS

52:02 .

52:03 UM, THAT ROUTINE POTHOLE

52:07 MAINTENANCE DOES NOT AND SO.

52:08 THAT WOULD.

52:10 ADD ON COSTS TO.

52:12 THE CITY.

52:12 SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE

52:13 OUT HOW WE WOULD DISTINGUISH

52:14 BETWEEN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND

52:16 PERMANENT ALTERATIONS THAT

52:18 WOULD.

52:18 TRIGGER ADA.

52:19 OBLIGATIONS AND WHO.

52:22 WHO WOULD BEAR THOSE COSTS.

52:24 UM AND I MAYBE IT'S NOT A

52:26 QUESTION FOR YOU, DAN.

52:27 BUT IT IS A QUESTION FOR FOR

52:29 LEGAL.

52:31 UM AND THEN.

52:31 WELL, I COULD YOU KNOW, IF IF

52:33 THE.

52:33 ABUTTERS WANTED TO RESURFACE

52:34 THEY CERTAINLY COULD THEY

52:36 WOULDN'T BE HELD UM TO THE ADA

52:40 ACCESSIBILITY UM COMPLIANCE IF

52:43 THEY JUST WANTED TO COME IN

52:43 AND, YOU KNOW, GET ONE STRIP

52:45 OF ASPHALT DOWN THE CENTER

52:46 OF THE YOU KNOW, THEY COULD DO

52:48 THAT BUT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY

52:50 AFFECT DRAINAGE.

52:51 UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME

52:53 THAT THEY WOULDN'T PAY FOR A

52:55 SURVEY.

52:56 TO DO.

52:57 THAT THAT THEY WOULD JUST

52:57 WANT TO KIND OF DO IT AND GET

52:58 IT DONE AGAIN.

52:59 YOU KNOW, EACH EACH PRIVATE

53:00 WEIGH IS DIFFERENT.

53:02 UM, AS FAR AS THE BETTERMENT

53:05 PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY

53:07 WERE TO COME IN AND DO IT AND

53:09 AND UM, DO THE ASSESSMENT YES.

53:12 THE STREET WOULD HAVE TO BE

53:14 FULLY YOU KNOW, FULLY PUBLIC

53:16 CITY SPECS, UM, ADA COMPLIANT

53:19 SIDEWALKS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND

53:21 THAT'S 53FT, YOU KNOW, SIDE TO

53:24 SIDE.

53:25 UM, A LOT OF THESE ALLEYS DON'T

53:28 HAVE THAT.

53:30 SO THERE'S.

53:30 A PROBLEM.

53:31 AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THAT

53:32 PESKY STATE LAW.

53:32 BUT UM, YOU KNOW.

53:35 YOU IT.

53:37 YEAH, THERE'S A LOT THERE.

53:38 BUT IF THE ABUTTERS.

53:40 WANTED TO COME IN AND JUST

53:41 RESURFACE.

53:41 IT.

53:41 THEY COULD DO THAT.

53:46 WITHOUT TRIGGERING WITHOUT

53:47 TRIGGERING THE 88, YOU KNOW THE

53:48 ADA COMPLIANT STUFF.

53:49 OKAY.

53:50 AND I DO HAVE UM.

53:52 I MEAN AND THEN YOU'VE ALREADY

53:53 GONE THROUGH THE EQUATION AND

53:55 WHAT IT.

53:55 WOULD MEAN.

53:55 UH.

53:56 IN TERMS OF.

53:57 UM PAYMENT ON THEIR BEHALF.

53:59 I HAVE HAD RESIDENTS IN EAST

54:01 BOSTON FOR.

54:02 GENEVA AND GENEVA STREET.

54:03 I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, UM,

54:05 REFUSE.

54:06 TO DO.

54:07 THE.

54:07 PROCESS BECAUSE.

54:07 THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY

54:08 WOULD NEED TO.

54:09 PAY MORE IN TAXES.

54:11 SO UM YEAH, THERE'S LIKE

54:12 THERE'S A.

54:13 BUNCH OF.

54:14 DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS AND

54:16 PERSPECTIVES.

54:16 BUT I'M I'M.

54:17 MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE LIKE

54:19 THE 25% THRESHOLD LIKE HOW

54:20 WOULD YOU ALL CALCULATE.

54:21 THAT LIKE.

54:22 WOULD.

54:23 IT BE.

54:23 BY SURFACE AREA LINEAR

54:24 FOOTAGE OR ANOTHER METRIC?

54:28 YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S A MOUNT

54:29 IT'S BIG RIGHT?

54:30 IT'S NOT SPECIFIC SO MAYBE IT'S

54:32 A MOUNT THE TOTAL COST UM I

54:35 DON'T I DON'T KNOW.

54:36 I WILL.

54:37 SAY THIS AS A.

54:38 PUBLIC AS A PRIVATE WAY UM

54:40 RESIDENT.

54:41 IF THE CITY WANTED TO COME AND

54:42 SAID HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE

54:43 IT OVER AND FIX EVERYTHING AND

54:44 ADD SIDEWALKS, I WOULDN'T WANT

54:46 THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO

54:47 AFFECT HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE

54:49 PARK UP IN THE IN THE IN THE

54:52 PRIVATE WAY.

54:53 SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S

54:54 ANOTHER KIND OF NUANCE TO THINK

54:56 ABOUT.

54:56 UM, AND AGAIN, PROBABLY ONE

54:58 OF THE REASONS THAT A LOT

54:59 OF FOLKS LIVING ON PRIVATE

55:01 WAVES DON'T.

55:01 YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DON'T WANT

55:03 ANYTHING DONE.

55:04 YEAH.

55:05 AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY ON

55:06 GENEVA STREET UM UH, THERE ARE

55:08 A COUPLE FAMILIES WHO ARE

55:10 SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT,

55:11 UM, THEIR PRIVATE WAY TO BE

55:13 TURNED INTO A PUBLIC STREET.

55:14 UM, OKAY.

55:15 BUT YOU'RE SAYING LIKE IF.

55:16 I THINK.

55:17 THIS IS JUST A CLARIFYING

55:18 POINT AND I APOLOGIZE.

55:19 THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY.

55:20 REDUNDANT AT THIS POINT.

55:21 BUT JUST FOR ME.

55:23 IF IF THEY.

55:23 WANTED TO COME.

55:24 IN THROUGH.

55:25 THE THE PICK.

55:26 PROCESS THE.

55:27 RESIDENTS AND JUST DO.

55:28 A LINE OF ASK BALL DOWN THE

55:29 STREET.

55:30 THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO

55:32 THROUGH THE ENTIRE BENEFIT

55:34 PROCESS WHICH IS ENSURING THAT

55:35 THERE'S DRAINAGE OR UTILITY OR.

55:37 ADA ACCESSIBLE ROOMS.

55:38 THEY COULD DO THAT.

55:39 FULLY ON THEIR OWN.

55:40 THEY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO

55:41 START THE PICK PROCESS.

55:42 YOU KNOW THEY'RE.

55:43 BASICALLY REPAIRING THEIR

55:44 PRIVATE PROPERTY HOWEVER REALLY

55:46 HOWEVER THEY WANT.

55:47 BUT LIKE THE CITY WOULDN'T BE.

55:48 COST SHARING IN THAT.

55:50 UH NO.

55:51 AND IF.

55:52 THEY DID WANT THE CITY TO

55:53 COST.

55:53 SHARE IT WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE

55:54 TO GO THROUGH THE.

55:55 PROCESS OKAY.

55:56 AND THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE

55:57 THEM TO TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE

56:00 RIGMAROLE OF.

56:01 EVERYTHING I JUST MENTIONED.

56:01 CORRECT.

56:02 OKAY.

56:04 AND WELL YEAH.

56:05 I LOT.

56:06 TO THINK.

56:06 ABOUT I MEAN AGAIN THIS IS

56:07 A.

56:07 THIS IS A GOOD INTENTIONS I

56:08 JUST.

56:09 THINK LIKE THINKING THROUGH IT

56:10 OPERATIONALLY IT'S UM.

56:11 IT'S A.

56:12 LITTLE TOUGH AND SO ARE

56:13 THINKING ABOUT OPERATIONAL

56:14 FEASIBILITY OF ONE LAST

56:15 QUESTION.

56:17 UM DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER

56:18 OF HOW MANY PRIVATE WAYS

56:19 CURRENTLY RECEIVE CITY FUNDED

56:21 TEMPORARY REPAIRS?

56:22 AND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS

56:24 ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE

56:25 THE CITY'S.

56:26 ABILITY TO.

56:27 ADDRESS REOCCURRING POTHOLES?

56:31 UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT.

56:34 I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR

56:35 YOU.

56:35 UM.

56:38 THINKING NOW ABOUT HOW WE.

56:39 COULD GET THAT.

56:41 SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF THE

56:42 311 COMPLAINT COMES IN WE CLOSE

56:45 IT OUT AS A BUT AS OUR RESPONSE

56:48 OKAY AND THEN WE COULD OR WE WE

56:50 EITHER DO A DON'T REPAIR WHAT

56:52 WE THINK IS NECESSARY.

56:56 UM YEAH I'M TRYING TO THINK

56:57 OF HOW I CAN.

56:58 COULD COULD GET THAT NUMBER.

57:00 I DON'T THINK WE COULD RIGHT

57:01 NOW THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO

57:02 THINGS.

57:03 OKAY.

57:03 AND LET ME REPHRASE LIKE

57:04 THE.

57:04 SECOND PART.

57:05 OF THE QUESTION I THINK.

57:06 I'M I'M.

57:06 INTERESTED IN.

57:07 PRACTICALITY HERE.

57:08 LIKE IS THE.

57:09 PROPOSED FRAMEWORK SOMETHING

57:10 THAT.

57:10 PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE ABLE TO.

57:12 ADMINISTER OR.

57:14 THINKING THROUGH.

57:14 IF WE WERE.

57:15 TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE

57:16 WHAT.

57:16 AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.

57:17 RECOMMEND TO MAKE

57:19 IMPLEMENTATION.

57:19 MORE EFFECTIVE.

57:21 IN TERMS OF US JUST TAKING THEM

57:23 ALL OVER?

57:23 YEAH.

57:24 I THINK.

57:26 IT'S IT'S SO HUGE.

57:29 TO THINK ABOUT.

57:30 I REALLY I PROBABLY NEED SOME

57:32 TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.

57:33 IT WOULD KIND OF BE TAKEN OUT

57:34 OF HIGHWAY'S HANDS.

57:35 IT WOULD GO RIGHT THROUGH THE

57:37 PICK AND ENGINEERING UM IT'S

57:40 YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF WORK IN

57:42 SMALL TIGHT SPACES.

57:44 UM.

57:45 I IMAGINE I WOULDN'T EVEN

57:47 GUESS TO GIVE YOU A IT WOULD BE

57:49 HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS

57:50 OF DOLLARS.

57:50 OKAY?

57:51 MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLION

57:52 .

57:53 YOU KNOW.

57:53 IT WOULD BE A LOT.

57:55 YEAH.

57:55 AND I MEAN WE ARE I WOULD

57:57 LOVE TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST

57:58 MAKING A FORMAL.

57:59 REQUEST THAT WE CAN FOLLOW.

58:00 UP THROUGH IG.

58:01 ARE LIKE GETTING ANY SORT OF.

58:03 AND I WAS YOU KNOW ALSO TO

58:05 COUNCIL FITZGERALD'S POINT

58:06 LIKE.

58:07 WHATEVER WE CAN.

58:09 USE ESPECIALLY LIKE A.

58:10 DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WHAT THIS MAY.

58:12 COST WOULD.

58:13 BE HELPFUL FOR.

58:13 US AS.

58:14 WE MOVE FORWARD AS WE

58:15 CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL.

58:16 SO JUST A BALLPARK.

58:19 NUMBER WOULD BE HELPFUL TO.

58:20 US PEOPLE MUCH SMARTER THAN I

58:21 COULD PROBABLY TAKE THE UH, THE

58:23 MILEAGE AND JUST ADD THE

58:25 AVERAGE COST ON ON A YOU KNOW

58:27 TO TO RECONSTRUCT A PRIVATE A.

58:28 PUBLIC WAY.

58:29 YEAH THAT WOULD BE A GOOD.

58:31 START KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING

58:32 TO BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT, YOU.

58:34 KNOW RIGHT.

58:35 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE.

58:36 THAT THEY'RE SET UP.

58:38 OKAY I WOULD APPRECIATE.

58:39 THAT THAT WOULD BE.

58:40 HELPFUL AS WE.

58:41 CONSIDER YOU KNOW UM THIS.

58:42 AGAIN THIS PROPOSAL UM AND

58:45 WHAT.

58:45 WE WOULD NEED IN.

58:46 TERMS OF STAFFING CAPACITY TO

58:48 EVEN GET THIS DONE BUT UM.

58:51 THAT'S IT FOR ME AND I

58:52 APOLOGIZE COUNCIL.

58:52 WELL, I'M JUST SEEING YOUR HAND

58:53 UP NOW.

58:54 WE'LL GO.

58:54 TO SECOND ROUND

58:55 OF QUESTIONING.

58:56 UM, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY.

58:57 INFORMATION THAT.

58:58 WOULD.

58:58 BE PERTINENT.

58:58 AS CONVERSATION PLEASE FEEL

58:59 FREE TO SHARE.

59:00 UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

59:01 AND JUST FOR.

59:03 FLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT

59:05 THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR

59:08 TO WHAT LIKE

59:09 SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED

59:12 IS THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY

59:14 AUTOMATICALLY FILL POTHOLES ON

59:16 PRIVATE WINGS.

59:20 SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST

59:22 SAYING THAT THEY WILL

59:23 AUTOMATICALLY FILL THE

59:26 POTHOLES.

59:28 AND CURRENTLY UNDER I'M SURE

59:31 THEY DO IT IN PRACTICE UNDER

59:33 THE CITY CODE THEY.

59:36 ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT

59:41 SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE

59:42 CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY

59:45 TO USE ASPHALT.

59:47 SO WE JUST ASKING THEM TO

59:51 AUTOMATICALLY UH FILL THE

59:54 POTHOLES AND GIVE THE GIVE THEM

59:56 IT UNDER THE CITY CODE THE

59:58 ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT BUT THIS

1:00:00 ORDINANCE IS NOT ASKING UM, US

1:00:02 TO TAKE IT OVER THE WHOLE

1:00:05 STREET.

1:00:05 IT JUST GIVES YOU KNOW, THE

1:00:07 PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH,

1:00:09 THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK TO USE

1:00:12 ASPHALT.

1:00:12 UM, AND INSTEAD OF CLOSING IT

1:00:14 OUT, UH, ONCE THEY GET IT

1:00:16 AUTOMATICALLY CLOSING THAT ONCE

1:00:17 THEY GET IT AND THEN GOING

1:00:19 THROUGH THIS ASSESSMENT WHETHER

1:00:21 OR NOT THEY SHOULD FILL THE

1:00:24 POTHOLE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT

1:00:25 THEY JUST SHOULD FILL THE

1:00:26 POTHOLE.

1:00:27 RIGHT.

1:00:28 SO I.

1:00:29 UNDERSTAND THAT JUST REALLY

1:00:29 QUICK IF I.

1:00:30 CAN UM REPLY.

1:00:32 SO IT ALSO.

1:00:33 REQUIRES US FOR.

1:00:34 THE.

1:00:35 CITY TO PROVIDE A COST SHARE.

1:00:36 AND I THINK MY POINT IN WHICH I

1:00:38 DIDN'T.

1:00:38 ARTICULATE WELL IS THAT.

1:00:39 IF WE ARE GOING TO BEAR THE

1:00:42 COST.

1:00:43 OF THIS IS IT HOW.

1:00:46 ARE WE ACTUALLY MAXIMIZING OUR

1:00:48 INVESTMENT INTO THE.

1:00:49 STREET IF IT IS JUST A BAND-AID

1:00:51 TO.

1:00:51 FILL THE.

1:00:52 POTHOLE WITH ASPHALT.

1:00:53 LIKE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BEHOOVE

1:00:55 US TO THINK.

1:00:57 TO.

1:00:57 RESURFACE THE STREET BECAUSE

1:00:58 THERE.

1:00:58 ARE UNDERLYING ISSUES ANYWAY AS

1:01:01 TO.

1:01:01 WHY THERE'S POTHOLES THERE.

1:01:03 SO I MEAN LIKE FOR ME I

1:01:05 WOULDN'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS

1:01:07 TO.

1:01:08 CONTINUOUSLY GO INTO.

1:01:10 BAND-AIDS RATHER THAN.

1:01:12 THINKING.

1:01:12 ABOUT MORE HOLISTICALLY.

1:01:13 HOW WE.

1:01:13 CAN BETTER THE STREET IN ITS

1:01:16 ENTIRETY.

1:01:17 UM, SO THAT I MEAN THAT'S JUST.

1:01:19 WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS.

1:01:22 YEAH, I'LL I'LL STOP IT THERE.

1:01:24 YEAH.

1:01:24 NO AND.

1:01:25 I I HEAR THAT AND THEN I GUESS

1:01:28 THAT'S.

1:01:29 DEFINITELY STUFF THAT WE SHOULD

1:01:31 DISCUSS IN THE IN THE WORKING

1:01:32 SESSION.

1:01:34 UM ON THEN THAT I GUESS THAT

1:01:36 AND GOES INTO THE WHOLE COST

1:01:38 RIGHT THE WHOLE COST AND THEN

1:01:40 WHAT GETS TRIGGERED ONCE YOU

1:01:42 MOVE FROM A BAND-AID SOLUTION

1:01:44 TO A UM A MORE HOLISTIC

1:01:46 APPROACH?

1:01:47 UM.

1:01:48 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING AND I

1:01:51 DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR

1:01:53 FROM THE MAYOR ON THIS AND I

1:01:56 JUST DID LIKE A QUICK RESEARCH

1:01:57 ONLINE IS THAT WE HAD THE

1:02:00 ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT

1:02:01 TEMPORARY FIXES ARE ON OUR

1:02:03 STREETS, UM, DUE TO STATE LAW

1:02:06 AND I'VE SEEN UM OTHER TOWNS

1:02:12 SEEN A RESURFACING COULD BE FOR

1:02:14 THEY HAVE USED THAT AS A

1:02:16 TEMPORARY FIX THE RESURFACING

1:02:20 AS A TEMPORARY FIX.

1:02:24 UM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM

1:02:29 FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT

1:02:32 ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM

1:02:35 AND.

1:02:38 I UNDER STATE LAW IT SOUNDS

1:02:41 LIKE WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, THE

1:02:42 DRAINAGE ISSUE.

1:02:45 YEAH.

1:02:47 IT JUST THAT THAT THAT'S A LOT

1:02:48 THAT'S A LOT IF WE'RE MOVING

1:02:50 FORWARD TO DEFINING RESURFACING

1:02:52 AS A TEMPORARY FIX THAT THEN WE

1:02:55 GET INTO WE CAN'T JUST SEPARATE

1:02:58 RESURFACING FROM DRAINAGE OR

1:03:01 ADA COMPLIANCE OR LIKE SIDEWALK

1:03:03 WIDTH AND ALL OF THAT UNLESS

1:03:05 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE

1:03:06 OWNERS WANT TO PRIVATELY DO

1:03:07 THEMSELVES RIGHT.

1:03:08 LIKE WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT

1:03:10 AS LIKE THE ENTIRETY OF OF THE

1:03:12 PROCESS.

1:03:13 SO THEN DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE

1:03:16 IF WE'RE DEFINING RESURFACING

1:03:18 AS A TEMPORARY FIX?

1:03:20 UM AND I'M ALSO SAYING THAT

1:03:22 YEAH AS LIKE WE HAVE THE

1:03:24 ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT A

1:03:26 TEMPORARY FIX IS.

1:03:28 RIGHT.

1:03:28 SO I'M JUST SAYING LIKE.

1:03:29 THAT IS AN OPTION UNDER STATE

1:03:30 LAW.

1:03:31 I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT

1:03:33 THERE SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE

1:03:35 DO DIVE INTO THE WORK IN

1:03:36 SESSION, UH, WE KNOW WHAT OUR

1:03:38 OPTIONS ARE.

1:03:39 OKAY.

1:03:40 AND, UH, LIKE A PERMANENT SO

1:03:42 I DON'T KNOW.

1:03:43 I THINK IT'S GETTING INTO THE

1:03:46 GRAY AREA HERE WHERE IF WE'RE

1:03:49 RESURFACING AND BUILDING

1:03:51 SIDEWALKS OUT AND THEN GOING

1:03:53 UNDERGROUND AND NEEDING TO MAKE

1:03:54 SURE THAT UTILITIES ARE UP TO

1:03:56 CODE WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE

1:03:58 AND CAN THAT STILL BE

1:03:59 CONSIDERED TEMPORARY.

1:04:03 ?

1:04:03 RIGHT.

1:04:04 AND I'M NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING

1:04:06 TO DO IS JUST TO GET UM, YOU

1:04:08 KNOW, REAL TEMPORARY FIXES, UM.

1:04:12 TO THESE.

1:04:13 PRIVATE WAYS KNOWING THAT, YOU

1:04:15 KNOW, THE COST ON BRINGING IT

1:04:17 BRING IT UP TO CODE.

1:04:19 UH.

1:04:20 CAN BE A LARGE AMOUNT FOR.

1:04:22 SOME OF THESE PRIVATE WAYS.

1:04:23 HAVE YOU KNOW MORE HOMES ON IT

1:04:26 ?

1:04:27 RIGHT?

1:04:28 UM, SO IT COULD BE VERY COSTLY

1:04:30 .

1:04:30 I WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND

1:04:32 YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 15.

1:04:35 HOMES AND I THINK IT WAS UP

1:04:36 CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES.

1:04:37 FOR A PROPERTY OWNER.

1:04:39 BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE JUST TRY

1:04:41 TO FIND A WAY.

1:04:41 THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO.

1:04:42 JUST DO A TEMPORARY FIX, GIVE

1:04:45 THE CITY THE ABILITY TO USE

1:04:47 ASPHALT.

1:04:48 UM, BUT I DO HEAR.

1:04:51 UM, THE.

1:04:52 CONCERNS AROUND, UM, YOU

1:04:55 KNOW, TEMPORARY BAND-AID BUT

1:04:56 THOSE BAND-AIDS AND THOSE

1:04:57 PLACES THAT HAVE HAD MINIMAL

1:05:00 REPAIRS THEY THEY DO GO A LONG

1:05:02 WAY.

1:05:03 THEY DO.

1:05:04 GO A LONG WAY AND AND

1:05:05 OFTENTIMES WHAT I'VE WHAT I'VE

1:05:08 HEARD IS THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW,

1:05:11 IT COULD BE UH, A UM A OVERAGE

1:05:16 OR EXTRA SUPPLY OF ASPHALT, UM.

1:05:19 IN THE CITY.

1:05:20 SO I THINK THAT IT DOES GIVES

1:05:22 US THE.

1:05:22 ABILITY AND MAYBE THAT'S HOW

1:05:24 THE ASSESSMENT HAPPENS.

1:05:25 BUT JUST TRYING TO GIVE US THAT

1:05:27 FLEXIBILITY.

1:05:28 ON REPAIRING.

1:05:28 THESE UM, TYPE OF WAYS.

1:05:31 IS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS

1:05:33 ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE.

1:05:35 UH.

1:05:36 MY MY MY LAST QUESTION.

1:05:38 UM, IS AROUND.

1:05:43 HOW MANY HOW MANY AND YOU MIGHT

1:05:46 HAVE NOTICED.

1:05:47 MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR

1:05:48 TODD.

1:05:48 HOW MANY.

1:05:50 STREETS HAVE.

1:05:51 GONE THROUGH THE PICK.

1:05:52 PROCESS AND THEN ONCE.

1:05:54 THEY REALIZE.

1:05:55 HOW MUCH THE.

1:05:56 COST IS YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDED.

1:05:58 THEY NO LONGER.

1:05:59 WANT TO PURSUE.

1:06:00 DO YOU DO YOU.

1:06:01 KNOW THAT I.

1:06:02 KNOW OF ONE SHARON STREET?

1:06:04 OKAY.

1:06:05 UM.

1:06:06 WE DIDN'T DISCUSS.

1:06:07 STREETS THAT DIDN'T.

1:06:09 GO THROUGH.

1:06:09 UM, I'M SURE TODD CAN GET YOU

1:06:11 THAT INFO.

1:06:12 YEAH.

1:06:12 OKAY.

1:06:13 YEAH.

1:06:14 THAT'S AND AND AND DO YOU KNOW,

1:06:16 LIKE A RANGE OF WHAT THESE

1:06:21 COSTS WILL CONVERT CONVERTING

1:06:22 AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT

1:06:23 CONVERTING THIS IS ABOUT

1:06:24 TEMPORARY.

1:06:25 FIXES BUT THIS IS JUST JUST

1:06:27 FOR.

1:06:28 MY CURIOSITY.

1:06:30 ARE YOU TALKING LIKE TO TO GO

1:06:32 THROUGH THE PROCESS.

1:06:33 IN THE ADA.

1:06:34 COMPLIANT AND ALL THAT STUFF?

1:06:35 WELL I'D BE TAKING A BUT I'D BE

1:06:37 TAKING A WILD GUESS.

1:06:40 UM YOU KNOW SO IT WOULD IT

1:06:43 WOULD DEPEND ON THE STREET.

1:06:43 IT WOULD DEPEND.

1:06:44 RIGHT?

1:06:44 YEAH.

1:06:45 YEAH DEFINITELY WOULD BE

1:06:47 DIFFERENT.

1:06:47 YEAH.

1:06:48 WHAT'S EXISTING IF THERE'S IF

1:06:50 THERE'S WATER AND SEWER

1:06:51 CALCULATIONS AT THIS PRIVATE

1:06:52 GAUGE.

1:06:53 RIGHT NOW AND I GET.

1:06:55 IT I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU A

1:06:57 NUMBER BUT DON'T HOLD IT, YOU

1:06:58 KNOW?

1:06:59 YEAH.

1:06:59 YEAH, I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.

1:07:01 THE ONE PRIVATE WAY.

1:07:03 PROCESS I WENT THROUGH, UH, IT

1:07:06 WAS ACTUALLY A NEW DEVELOPMENT

1:07:09 .

1:07:09 THEY WERE ALL NEW HOMES

1:07:10 PROBABLY NO LESS THAN TEN YEARS

1:07:11 OLD.

1:07:12 UH, ON A NEW STREET.

1:07:15 UM.

1:07:15 AND TO.

1:07:16 CONVERT THAT PRIVATE WAY WITH.

1:07:18 YOU WHICH WAS A NEW STREET

1:07:19 OVER TO A PUBLIC WAY.

1:07:21 UH, THAT THAT COST.

1:07:23 RESIDENT.

1:07:23 UH.

1:07:24 UP TO SIX FIGURES ON A

1:07:26 STREET THAT WAS ONLY TEN YEARS

1:07:27 OLD.

1:07:27 OKAY, JUST IMAGINE ON ALL THE

1:07:29 STREET.

1:07:30 UM, BUT, UM, SUPERINTENDING THE

1:07:32 DATE.

1:07:34 OH, MY LAST QUESTION.

1:07:35 WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING THE

1:07:38 POTHOLES, WOULD.

1:07:38 YOU NEED.

1:07:40 ADDITIONAL, UM, EMPLOYEES OR

1:07:44 WOULD THAT BE.

1:07:45 AN ADDITIONAL COST?

1:07:46 UM, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT YOUR

1:07:49 ABILITY.

1:07:49 TO.

1:07:50 UM, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT JUST

1:07:53 THE.

1:07:53 FILLING OF THE POTHOLES?

1:07:55 I MEAN, SURE, THERE'S MAN HOURS

1:07:56 DEVOTED TO IT.

1:07:57 WE'RE DOING IT NOW IN CERTAIN

1:08:00 CASES.

1:08:00 UM, WE ARE.

1:08:02 BELOW STAFFING LEVEL.

1:08:04 UM, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFFING YOU

1:08:05 KNOW, WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS,

1:08:06 MANY OPEN POSITIONS THAT I

1:08:07 WOULD LOVE TO GET FILLED.

1:08:09 UM, NO, I MEAN WE'RE DOING IT

1:08:12 NOW.

1:08:12 YEAH.

1:08:12 THERE'S A THERE'S A MAN OUR

1:08:14 COST AND MATERIAL COST, YOU

1:08:17 KNOW, WHICH IS RELATIVELY SMALL

1:08:19 WHEN COMPARED TO RECONSTRUCTION

1:08:20 .

1:08:22 ALL RIGHT.

1:08:23 WELL THANK YOU SUPERINTENDENT.

1:08:25 YOU'RE WELCOME.

1:08:31 SORRY I WAS MUTED.

1:08:34 UM OKAY.

1:08:35 UH, THIS WAS THIS WAS A GREAT

1:08:36 CONVERSATION.

1:08:37 I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE'S

1:08:39 MORE TO CONSIDER.

1:08:45 UM THERE'S JUST YEAH THERE'S A

1:08:47 LOT HERE.

1:08:48 UM, AND I KNOW IT IS JUST

1:08:49 TRYING TO SEEK A TEMPORARY FIX

1:08:51 .

1:08:51 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A

1:08:52 BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU

1:08:54 KNOW, MAXIMIZING CITY DOLLARS

1:08:56 AND, UM, WHAT MAY WHAT MAY MAKE

1:09:00 SENSE FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OR

1:09:02 EVEN ON AN INDIVIDUAL STREET.

1:09:04 UM, AND I WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO

1:09:06 IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE THIS

1:09:07 FORWARD JUST THINKING THROUGH

1:09:08 IT, WE'D HAVE TO SET UP MAYBE A

1:09:11 SEPARATE TRACK WITHIN THE PARK

1:09:14 TO DO THIS WHERE IF IT'S NOT

1:09:15 THE ENTIRE BETTERMENT PROCESS

1:09:18 AND IT'S JUST RESURFACING.

1:09:21 WELL ACTUALLY NO I I SAY THAT

1:09:22 OUT LOUD NOW OR IF THEY JUST

1:09:23 WANT TO DO THE TEMPORARY FIX.

1:09:25 UM, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO MAYBE

1:09:28 TODD MY OR UM, I FORGOT HER

1:09:31 NAME.

1:09:32 I KNOW SHE HAS GLASSES.

1:09:32 AMY CALL ME.

1:09:34 YEAH.

1:09:34 AMY ABOUT WHAT THEIR PROCESS

1:09:36 LOOKS LIKE AND IF THERE WOULD

1:09:37 NEED TO BE A SEPARATE TRACK FOR

1:09:39 SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

1:09:41 UM, OKAY.

1:09:42 WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER

1:09:44 COLLEAGUES ON.

1:09:45 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:09:47 I'LL WHILE WE SET UP FOLKS WHO

1:09:49 HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC

1:09:50 TESTIMONY, MAYBE WE CAN TEE UP

1:09:51 THE VIDEOS AND, UM, AND GO FROM

1:09:55 THERE.

1:09:55 I THINK WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC

1:09:58 TESTIMONY, UM, VIDEOS THAT WE

1:10:00 NEED TO WEIGH.

1:10:03 THERE WE GO.

1:10:04 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:10:08 HI.

1:10:09 MY NAME IS DOUG WOODHOUSE.

1:10:10 I'M A RESIDENT OF BOSTON

1:10:12 ROSLINDALE.

1:10:12 I ALSO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY.

1:10:15 I JUST WANT TO, UH, SPEAK IN

1:10:17 SUPPORT OF THE, UM,

1:10:19 COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND

1:10:21 TO THANK HIM AND ALSO

1:10:23 COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR

1:10:23 CO-SPONSORING IT.

1:10:25 UH, OUR ROAD IS IN HORRIBLE

1:10:27 DISREPAIR.

1:10:28 UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO MY WIFE

1:10:29 AND I PAID A PAVING COMPANY TO

1:10:31 FIX UP THE POTHOLES IN FRONT

1:10:32 OF OUR HOUSE WHICH THEY DID AND

1:10:35 WHICH IS NOW BACK TO BE IN

1:10:36 HORRIBLE SHAPE.

1:10:38 UM, THIS IS BECAUSE THE

1:10:39 STRUCTURE HERE IS PARTICULARLY

1:10:40 DANGEROUS IN THE WINTER WHEN

1:10:41 THE SNOW MELTS, UM AND THEN

1:10:43 FREEZES AGAIN JUST BECOMES ALL

1:10:45 ICE.

1:10:45 UH, WE HAD SEVERAL DAYS WHERE

1:10:47 THE POST OFFICE DIDN'T DELIVER

1:10:49 MAIL FOR US BECAUSE THEY SAID

1:10:50 IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE,

1:10:52 UH, MAIL CARRIERS TO WALK DOWN

1:10:53 OUR STREET.

1:10:54 UM, UH, THERE ARE ELDERLY

1:10:58 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WHO USED

1:10:59 TO RIDE.

1:11:00 THERE ARE, UH, CHILDREN HERE

1:11:02 WHO USE, UH, DOOR TO DOOR BUS

1:11:04 SERVICE.

1:11:05 UM, BUS HAS HAD TO COME DOWN

1:11:07 THIS ROAD.

1:11:08 I WORRY THAT AT SOME POINT, UH

1:11:10 ,TRASH TRUCKS WON'T BE ABLE TO

1:11:11 COME DOWN THIS ROAD OR, UM, FOR

1:11:14 RECYCLING OR ANY OF THAT.

1:11:16 UH, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO MY

1:11:19 NEIGHBORS FINANCE OF THIS, BUT

1:11:21 I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE I

1:11:23 DON'T THINK OUR STREET CAN

1:11:26 MAINTAIN, UH, THIS ROAD ON OUR

1:11:29 OWN.

1:11:29 I WOULD REALLY LIKE IF THE CITY

1:11:31 OF BOSTON COULD HELP US WITH

1:11:32 THESE.

1:11:32 ANOTHER GIANT POTHOLE.

1:11:34 I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF

1:11:36 BOSTON WERE ABLE TO HELP US

1:11:37 KIND OF MAINTAIN THE

1:11:39 INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.

1:11:40 UM, ANYHOW, THIS WHOLE THIS

1:11:43 WHOLE ROAD IS JUST, UH, REALLY

1:11:46 BAD.

1:11:46 IT'S RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT JUST

1:11:48 RAINED.

1:11:48 YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HOW DEEP

1:11:49 THEY ARE.

1:11:50 BUT THAT BIG ONE AND THAT ONE

1:11:51 IS INCREDIBLY DEEP.

1:11:53 UM, WE CAN'T DRIVE IF YOU HAVE

1:11:56 A, UH, LIKE A SUV OR A CRV OR

1:11:59 ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN GET

1:12:00 DOWN THIS WAY.

1:12:00 BUT IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER CAR

1:12:02 THAN THAT IT SCRAPES THE BOTTOM

1:12:03 .

1:12:04 UM I CAN'T I COULD TELL YOU

1:12:07 ACTUALLY CAUSE I SAVE ALL THE

1:12:08 RECEIPTS BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THE

1:12:10 AMOUNT OF TIMES I'VE HAD TO,

1:12:12 UH, REPLACED MY TIRES BECAUSE

1:12:14 THEY'VE GOTTEN DAMAGE ON THIS

1:12:15 ROAD.

1:12:16 UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY IT'S

1:12:18 MONEY THAT I CAN'T BE PUTTING

1:12:19 TOWARDS MAINTAINING THE ROADS.

1:12:20 I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY

1:12:22 CAR ROLLING.

1:12:24 SO ANYHOW, I JUST WANTED TO

1:12:25 GIVE YOU A A QUICK TOUR OVER MY

1:12:27 SHOULDER OF OUR ROAD AND, UH, I

1:12:30 JUST HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL,

1:12:33 UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVE

1:12:35 COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND

1:12:37 THAT, UH, SOME MAINTENANCE

1:12:38 COULD USING ASPHALT COULD BE

1:12:39 DONE ON OUR ON OUR STREET

1:12:41 BECAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS

1:12:42 IT AND WE REALLY CAN'T UM I

1:12:46 REALLY DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT

1:12:48 WITHOUT YOUR HELP.

1:12:49 ALL RIGHT.

1:12:49 THANKS SO MUCH.

1:12:51 HI EVERYONE.

1:12:52 MY NAME IS FAMED LUMLEY.

1:12:53 MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO

1:12:55 BOSTON A YEAR AND A HALF AGO

1:12:57 AND WE'RE RESIDENTS

1:12:59 OF DORCHESTER LIVING ON A

1:13:00 PRIVATE WAY.

1:13:00 I'M SUBMITTING THIS VIDEO IN

1:13:03 SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED

1:13:04 ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATELY

1:13:06 POTHOLES TO INCLUDE ASPHALT AS

1:13:08 ONE OF THE REPAIR METHODS ON

1:13:10 PRIVATE WAYS.

1:13:11 WHILE I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY

1:13:13 SHOULD BE RESURFACING AND

1:13:15 COMPLETELY REPLACING THESE

1:13:17 PRIVATE WAVES THAT ARE IN

1:13:19 COMPLETE DISREPAIR, I DO

1:13:20 BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED

1:13:22 ORDINANCE IS A STEP IN THE

1:13:24 RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKING SURE

1:13:25 THAT PRIVATE WAYS ARE SAFE TO

1:13:28 TRAVEL ON.

1:13:29 AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PHOTOS

1:13:31 THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE RIGHT

1:13:33 NOW, THE PRIVATE WAY ON WHICH

1:13:35 WE LIVE WAS IN MAJOR DISREPAIR

1:13:37 UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE

1:13:39 POTHOLES FILLED ON THE STREET.

1:13:41 UM IT WAS INCREDIBLY UNSAFE.

1:13:43 THERE WERE PEOPLE TRIPPING ON

1:13:45 THE HOLES BECAUSE OF HOW DEEP

1:13:47 THEY HAD BECOME, AND IT LOOKS

1:13:49 LIKE THEY WERE IN DISREPAIR FOR

1:13:50 A NUMBER OF YEARS.

1:13:51 UM, EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED IN

1:13:53 THERE WAS STANDING WATER IN

1:13:56 EVERY SINGLE POTHOLE BECAUSE

1:13:57 OF HOW DEEP THEY WERE EVERY

1:13:58 SINGLE TIME IT RAINED AND THE

1:14:02 VEHICLES ON OUR STREET WOULD BE

1:14:04 TRYING TO DODGE THE NUMBER

1:14:07 OF POTHOLES ON THE STREET

1:14:08 BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF GETTING

1:14:11 THE TIRES DAMAGED.

1:14:13 I SUPPORT THE ADDITION

1:14:15 OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES

1:14:16 OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED

1:14:17 TO REPAIR POTHOLES ON PRIVATE

1:14:19 WAYS BECAUSE THE ASPHALT

1:14:21 PROVIDES DURABILITY UNDER HEAVY

1:14:24 TRAFFIC AND WEATHER CONDITIONS.

1:14:26 I BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION

1:14:27 OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES

1:14:29 OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED

1:14:31 TO REPAIR POTHOLES WILL ADDRESS

1:14:33 THE NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT I

1:14:35 RAISED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS

1:14:36 VIDEO WHICH TO RECAP AGAIN ARE

1:14:39 SAFETY ISSUES THAT I HAD PUBLIC

1:14:40 HEALTH CONCERNS WITH STANDING

1:14:42 WATER ISSUES AND THE POTENTIAL

1:14:45 DAMAGE TO CARS BECAUSE OF HOW

1:14:47 DEEP POTHOLES HAVE BECOME ON A

1:14:49 NUMBER OF PRIVATE WAYS.

1:14:51 FRANKLY, I NEVER THOUGHT I

1:14:52 WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO'S MAKING A

1:14:54 VIDEO ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE

1:14:56 OF MATERIALS TO BE USED TO

1:14:57 REPAIR POTHOLES, BUT HERE WE

1:14:59 ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY

1:15:00 THOUGH MY HUSBAND AND I ARE

1:15:02 TAXPAYERS JUST LIKE ALL OF THE

1:15:04 PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON OUR STREET

1:15:06 AND WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT OUR

1:15:09 TAXPAYER DOLLARS CAN GO TOWARDS

1:15:10 THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE

1:15:12 OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE WE USE OUR

1:15:16 STREETS.

1:15:16 BUT SO DO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE

1:15:18 ON OUR STREETS.

1:15:19 AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS

1:15:21 ORDINANCE PASSES AND WE CAN

1:15:23 TAKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT

1:15:24 DIRECTION.

1:15:25 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME

1:15:26 AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING

1:15:27 ME OUT.

1:15:31 GREAT.

1:15:32 THANK YOU TO THOSE RESIDENTS

1:15:33 FOR THEIR VIDEOS.

1:15:34 UM NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC

1:15:35 TESTIMONY.

1:15:36 I THINK I WILL JUST TAKE A JUST

1:15:38 A QUICK MINUTE BECAUSE I WOULD

1:15:39 LOVE TO GET THESE QUESTIONS ON

1:15:40 THE RECORD AND THEN MAKE SURE

1:15:41 THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION

1:15:42 MOVING FORWARD.

1:15:43 UM, SO UM, JUST UH TO

1:15:46 SUPERINTENDENT NE IF IT'S OKAY

1:15:47 IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE

1:15:48 QUESTIONS NOW BUT I WOULD LOVE

1:15:50 LIKE A FOLLOW UP FROM YOU OR

1:15:51 YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT JUST

1:15:53 THINKING ABOUT THE TEMPORARY

1:15:54 FIXES.

1:15:55 UM, ON AVERAGE HOW LONG DOES IT

1:15:57 TAKE FOR ASPHALT IN PARTICULAR

1:15:59 TO DEGRADE IF UTILIZE TO FILL

1:16:02 POTHOLES AND THEN HOW?

1:16:06 THE SECOND QUESTION IS HOW MUCH

1:16:07 WOULD IT COST WITH UM INITIAL

1:16:11 REPAIRS IF WE WOULD IF WE WERE

1:16:14 TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE

1:16:15 ACROSS THE CITY AND THEN YEAR

1:16:18 OVER YEAR WHAT THAT ANNUAL

1:16:21 MAINTENANCE COST IS.

1:16:24 WELL I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST ONE.

1:16:26 I MEAN THE SECOND ONE FIRST.

1:16:27 YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD IF

1:16:28 WE HAVE A SNAP OUR FINGERS AND

1:16:31 MAGICALLY JUST RECONSTRUCT ALL

1:16:32 THE PRIVATE PRIVATE WAYS AND

1:16:34 THEY HAD YOU KNOW, THEY WERE

1:16:36 COMPLIANT AND THEY HAD ENOUGH

1:16:37 SPACE UM, WE CAN PROBABLY GET

1:16:40 YOU A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, BASED

1:16:42 ON THE MILEAGE.

1:16:43 UM, YOU KNOW, AND MULTIPLY YOU

1:16:46 KNOW, MULTIPLY THAT BY WHAT

1:16:47 WE'RE PAYING ON PUBLIC STREETS

1:16:49 .

1:16:49 UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY

1:16:51 DO THAT.

1:16:53 UM, AS FAR AS THE FIRST

1:16:55 QUESTION FOR, UM, HOW LONG

1:16:58 OF IF ASKED WHAT WAS USED FOR A

1:16:59 POTHOLE PATCH.

1:17:00 SO WE ARE USING ASPHALT NOW TO

1:17:04 PATCH PRIVATE WAYS IF THEY'RE

1:17:06 IF THE EXISTING CONDITION IS

1:17:08 ASPHALT.

1:17:08 UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, THAT

1:17:12 MIGHT BE ANOTHER RULE THAT I'VE

1:17:13 BEEN BREAKING FOR YEARS.

1:17:15 UM, BUT WE HAVE WE DO DO THAT.

1:17:18 UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE

1:17:21 PERFECT WORLD IF WE WERE TO

1:17:23 PATCH A HOLE WITH ASPHALT AND

1:17:24 THERE WERE NO UNDERLYING

1:17:26 CONDITIONS.

1:17:26 RIGHT.

1:17:27 SO NO WATER RUNNING?

1:17:28 NO.

1:17:29 YOU KNOW.

1:17:29 UM, SOIL UNDERNEATH DEGRADING.

1:17:32 IN 20, 30 YEARS ASPHALT HAS A

1:17:34 VERY LIGHTWEIGHT USE.

1:17:35 IT'S VERY DURABLE WHEN IT'S

1:17:37 NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVELY

1:17:40 AFFECTED WATER UTILITY CUTS YOU

1:17:42 KNOW THAT THAT.

1:17:43 THAT TYPE OF THING.

1:17:44 YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE A LONG

1:17:46 TIME.

1:17:47 FOR ASPHALT TO BREAK DOWN, UM,

1:17:49 20, 30 YEARS EASILY.

1:17:52 OKAY.

1:17:52 AND THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB

1:17:54 QUESTION AND I'M.

1:17:54 SORRY THIS IS THE FOLLOW UP

1:17:55 QUESTION.

1:17:55 THE ASPHALT THAT YOU'RE USING

1:17:57 IS THIS THE SAME THIS IS THE

1:17:59 SAME MATERIAL THAT LIKE FLAKES

1:18:01 OFF WHEN, UH, LIKE SNOW COMES

1:18:05 OR YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE

1:18:06 BLACK FLAKY MATERIAL THAT WE

1:18:08 SEE MAYBE ON SIDEWALKS AND

1:18:10 DEFINITELY STREETS.

1:18:12 SO IT'S NOT THE SAME ASPHALT

1:18:14 THAT WE USE TO PAVE ROADWAYS.

1:18:16 IT'S CALLED A TENNIS UM TENNIS

1:18:19 COURT OR TENNIS COURT TOP MIX.

1:18:21 BASICALLY IT HAS A SMALLER

1:18:22 AGGREGATE.

1:18:25 UM SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S

1:18:26 FINER IT'S IT'S.

1:18:28 A YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THE

1:18:31 ASPHALT FOR A ROADWAY IS BUILT

1:18:32 WITH LARGER AT A GROUP AT GREAT

1:18:34 MEANING IT'S YOU KNOW UM YOU

1:18:35 KNOW THE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS BY

1:18:37 TWO THIS IS ADDED TO A LARGER

1:18:39 ROCK OR A STONE UM AND THAT

1:18:42 BINDS TOGETHER AND THAT MAKES A

1:18:44 VERY DURABLE ROADWAY.

1:18:45 RIGHT.

1:18:45 SO IT'S VERY STRONG.

1:18:47 UM THE POTHOLES THE TOP MIX

1:18:49 THAT WE USE FOR POTHOLES IS

1:18:50 ALSO VERY STRONG.

1:18:51 IT'S JUST USED WITH UH, SAND OR

1:18:54 VERY, VERY SMALL STONES.

1:18:56 UM, IT PROVIDES A BETTER SEAL

1:18:58 IF YOU WILL.

1:18:59 SO BE IT ADHERED ADHERES BETTER

1:19:02 SO WATER DOESN'T ISN'T ABLE TO

1:19:03 SEEP IN.

1:19:05 UM CHEAPER WHICH IS WHAT JUST

1:19:07 JUST POP US, UM, EASY TO WORK

1:19:09 WITH.

1:19:10 UM, SO YEAH SO IT'S YOU KNOW,

1:19:13 IT'S RELATIVELY THE SAME.

1:19:15 OKAY.

1:19:16 THANK YOU.

1:19:16 UM I APOLOGIZE THANK YOU FOR

1:19:18 THE FOLKS ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY

1:19:19 FOR INDULGE ME.

1:19:20 UM, WE'LL GO TO VIRTUAL

1:19:21 TESTIMONY WE HAVE WE'LL START

1:19:22 WITH NANCY.

1:19:23 UH, RICK AND THEN TERESA.

1:19:27 I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SAYING YOUR

1:19:28 NAME INCORRECTLY.

1:19:28 UM, THEN WE HAVE TWO MORE FOLKS

1:19:30 SIGNED UP, BUT WE'LL START WITH

1:19:31 NANCY.

1:19:31 UM, NANCY, PLEASE UNMUTE

1:19:34 YOURSELF.

1:19:34 UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR

1:19:36 AFFILIATION AND YOU HAVE TWO

1:19:38 MINUTES.

1:19:42 HI.

1:19:42 I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS.

1:19:44 THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION

1:19:45 .

1:19:46 UM, MY NAME IS NANCY LEO AND I

1:19:48 HAVE LIVED ON STELLA ROAD A

1:19:50 PRIVATE WAY IN ROSLINDALE SINCE

1:19:52 1988.

1:19:53 STELLA ROAD IS BETWEEN AMERICAN

1:19:56 LEGION HIGHWAY AND HYDE PARK

1:19:58 OF.

1:19:59 THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR

1:20:02 CREATING THIS ORDINANCE.

1:20:03 I SUPPORT DOCKET 0807 ORDINANCE

1:20:07 TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAYS WAY

1:20:10 POTHOLES.

1:20:11 THAT SAID, THIS IS ONLY THE

1:20:13 START TO ADDRESSING A LONG

1:20:14 STANDING PROBLEM DUE TO

1:20:16 ANTIQUATED LAWS OVER 100 YEARS

1:20:19 AGO WHEN THIS FARMLAND AREA WAS

1:20:21 DEVELOPED, STELLA ROAD WAS LEFT

1:20:23 AS A PRIVATE WAY.

1:20:25 COMMON PRACTICE IN THE CITY AND

1:20:26 ACROSS THE STATE.

1:20:27 WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME 38

1:20:30 YEARS AGO STILL A ROAD WAS IN

1:20:33 DISREPAIR.

1:20:34 A PRIVATE WAY IS NOT A MUST

1:20:36 HAVE ON A HOMEBUYING LIST.

1:20:38 IT COMES WITH THE PROPERTY

1:20:40 PRIVATE WEIGHS A HEAVILY

1:20:41 TRAFFICKED BY THE PUBLIC

1:20:43 INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLES

1:20:45 NOT SIMPLY USED BY THE CURRENT

1:20:47 PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS.

1:20:49 CITY INITIATIVES SUCH AS

1:20:51 CUMMINGS STREET HAVE

1:20:52 DRAMATICALLY INCREASED TRAFFIC

1:20:54 ON PRIVATE WAYS.

1:20:57 PRIVATE WAYS HAVE BEEN A

1:20:58 GIVEAWAY FROM THE CITY TO

1:21:00 DEVELOPERS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

1:21:03 DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED

1:21:05 TO BUILD ROADS THAT MEET THE

1:21:06 CITY STATE STANDARDS AND NOT

1:21:09 SHIFT THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND

1:21:11 COST ONTO FUTURE HOMEOWNERS OR

1:21:13 BLAME THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS

1:21:15 FOR SUBSTANDARD ROADS.

1:21:18 CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE

1:21:20 RESPONSIBLE FOR SWEET DEALS

1:21:22 GIVING TO DEVELOPERS FIVE, TEN,

1:21:24 50 YEARS AGO CONSIDERING THE

1:21:28 CONVERSION OF PRIVATE WAYS TO

1:21:30 PUBLIC ROADS.

1:21:31 CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT

1:21:33 SHOULD NOT ASSUME ADDITIONAL

1:21:35 COST AND INCREASE TAXES.

1:21:37 PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS PAY CITY

1:21:39 AND STATE TAXES WITH A PORTION

1:21:42 OF THOSE BUDGETS GOING TO

1:21:44 REPAIR ROADS.

1:21:45 NONE OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS

1:21:47 REPAIR THEIR PRIVATE WAYS DUE

1:21:49 TO OUTDATED LAWS.

1:21:51 THESE RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED

1:21:52 TO PAY TWICE.

1:21:54 PLEASE DON'T LET THIS ORDINANCE

1:21:56 BE THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.

1:21:58 I JUST WANT TO ADD TWO THINGS

1:22:00 FROM THE CONVERSATION IS THAT

1:22:04 UM YES THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS

1:22:06 AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED

1:22:08 HE LIKES HIS DEAD END STREET

1:22:09 THE WAY IT IS.

1:22:10 STILL THE ROADS ARE CUT

1:22:12 THROUGH, IT IS USED AS A CUT

1:22:14 THROUGH AND IT GETS WORSE AND

1:22:16 WORSE OVER THE LAST HUNDRED

1:22:18 YEARS.

1:22:18 THE OTHER THING IS UM, IN TERMS

1:22:22 OF BUDGETING I THINK THAT

1:22:24 HERE'S A CREATIVE FINANCIAL

1:22:26 CONCEPT THAT THE RESIDENTS ON A

1:22:28 PRIVATE WAY.

1:22:30 ALL MY TAXES ALL THEIR TAXES ON

1:22:32 THEIR PRIVATE WAY GO INTO A

1:22:34 SPECIAL FUND, NOT GO INTO THE

1:22:36 WHOLE GENERAL BUZZ BUDGET FOR 5

1:22:38 OR 10 YEARS AND THEN THAT MONEY

1:22:40 CAN BE USED TO REPAIR THAT

1:22:42 STREET.

1:22:42 SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS HAVE TO

1:22:45 BE FOUND FOR THESE ANTIQUATED

1:22:47 LAWS AND AS UM UH GABRIEL'S THE

1:22:51 PART THAT SAID WE NEED WE DO

1:22:53 NEED TO CHANGE THE LAWS.

1:22:55 IT MAY TAKE TIME BUT PLEASE

1:22:57 ADDRESS CHANGING THESE LAWS AND

1:22:59 EVERYTHING ISN'T A ONE SIZE

1:23:01 FITS ALL.

1:23:01 AS YOU MENTIONED, MY STREET

1:23:03 ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH.

1:23:04 MAYBE SIDEWALKS CAN'T BE ON

1:23:06 BOTH SIDES BUT THEY COULD BE ON

1:23:08 HAVE ONE SIDE.

1:23:09 THERE NEEDS TO BE CREATIVE

1:23:10 THINKING TO REALLY CHANGE THIS.

1:23:12 IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S JUST BEEN

1:23:14 KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR 100

1:23:16 YEARS.

1:23:16 THANK YOU.

1:23:18 THANK YOU NANCY.

1:23:19 UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE RICK AND

1:23:21 THEN THERESA AND THEN SHIRLEY.

1:23:41 OR BAYSHORE.

1:23:43 THERE WE GO.

1:23:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR.

1:23:47 THIS, UH, THIS HEARING OUT.

1:23:50 ON MY COUNSELOR, UH, BRIAN

1:23:52 WORRELL.

1:23:53 I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR BEING

1:23:55 INVOLVED IN THIS AND, UH, THE

1:23:58 COMMISSIONER IT'S, A, UH, VERY

1:24:00 INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION.

1:24:01 UH, IT MADE THE COMPLEXITY

1:24:03 OF THIS PROBLEM.

1:24:05 UM, I'M A CO-LEADER OF THE

1:24:06 MOUNT HOPE CANTERBURY

1:24:07 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALONG

1:24:08 AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.

1:24:11 UM, I DID A COUNT AND THE OTHER

1:24:14 DAY WE HAVE, UH, TEN PRIVATE

1:24:17 ROADS, UH, ADDING UP TO 40

1:24:20 500FT.

1:24:21 UH, THAT ONLY TWO OF THEM ARE

1:24:23 DEAD ENDS AND THERE'S, YOU

1:24:25 KNOW, DON'T GET MUCH TRAFFIC

1:24:26 THE LAST WHILE, UH,

1:24:29 INTERESTINGLY, YOUR FIRST VIDEO

1:24:32 AND, UH, THE VIDEO FROM NANCY I

1:24:34 BOTH UH UH, MEMBERS OF OUR

1:24:37 COMMUNITY UH, THE FIRST ONE

1:24:39 WITH THE BRADSTREET ROAD WHICH

1:24:42 ALMOST INTERSECTS STELLA AND ON

1:24:45 WHAT YOU SEE AND FROM THE VIDEO

1:24:49 AND FROM NANCY'S PRESENTATION,

1:24:50 WHAT YOU HEAR FROM NANCY'S

1:24:52 PRESENTATION IS THE TYPICAL

1:24:54 PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:24:56 UM.

1:24:58 I WON'T REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY

1:25:00 ELSE HAS SAID, BUT IT'S, UH

1:25:02 IT'S SORT OF UNBELIEVABLE.

1:25:04 WE'LL BE SEEING A ROAD LIKE

1:25:05 THAT IN SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITION

1:25:07 UH, HERE IN BOSTON AND AND UH,

1:25:10 GOING ON FOR DECADES AND WE'RE

1:25:12 IN THIS LOGJAM AT UH IT'S A I

1:25:15 CAN SEE IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT,

1:25:17 UM, IT'S A WORKING CLASS

1:25:19 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:25:21 MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING

1:25:22 TROUBLE JUST PAYING THEIR

1:25:23 MORTGAGES TO TAKE ON AN

1:25:25 EXPENSIVE TAKE TO DO THIS

1:25:26 PRIVATELY IS JUST NOT GOING TO

1:25:27 HAPPEN YET WE CONTINUE TO HAVE

1:25:30 THESE, UH, TERRIBLE ROADWAYS.

1:25:33 UM, I WAS THINKING WHEN WE'RE,

1:25:36 UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, WE

1:25:38 HAVE PUBLIC ROADS IN OUR

1:25:40 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON'T HAVE

1:25:42 SIDEWALKS.

1:25:43 UM, CANTERBURY PART OF, UH,

1:25:47 CANTERBURY.

1:25:48 UM.

1:25:49 ,ROAD AND UM, MOUNT CALVARY.

1:25:53 UH, AND IT WOULD BE VERY

1:25:55 DIFFICULT NOW IN SOME WAYS AND

1:25:58 SOME PARTS OF THEM TO PUT IN

1:25:59 SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE ROAD IS

1:26:00 SO NARROW LIKE ON ONE SIDE IT'S

1:26:02 A DROP OFF AND THE OTHER SIDE

1:26:04 OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE YOU'RE NOT

1:26:05 GOING TO GET YOUR 53FT.

1:26:08 SO BUT IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD AND

1:26:11 IT GETS REPAIRED AND I MEAN

1:26:14 IT'S THE SAME SITUATION YOU

1:26:15 KNOW IT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE

1:26:17 PUBLIC AND IT GETS REPAIRED.

1:26:19 A IT IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE

1:26:21 SIDEWALKS OR UM SO I, I HOPE I

1:26:28 SEE THIS UH THIS PROPOSAL AS A

1:26:32 STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.

1:26:33 I SEE WE HAVE UH, DO HAVE A

1:26:35 WAYS TO GO UH TO REALLY BE ABLE

1:26:39 TO DO THE CORRECT UH UH,

1:26:43 IMPROVEMENTS.

1:26:44 UM, ONE QUESTION I'D HAVE IS IF

1:26:46 I CAN JUST I THINK IT'S ON THE

1:26:48 MAYBE MCALARY UM, THERE'S NO

1:26:53 SIDEWALKS BUT THE THE THE

1:26:55 ASPHALT WHEN IT GOES TO THE

1:26:57 EDGES THEY BUILD IN A SMALL UH,

1:27:00 CURB BASICALLY ON THE ASPHALT.

1:27:02 SO THAT KEEPS THE WATER FROM

1:27:04 GOING TO PEOPLE'S YARDS GOES

1:27:06 DOWN THE HILL AND AT THE BOTTOM

1:27:09 THERE'S UH THEN IT INTERSECTS A

1:27:12 CANTERBURY STREET AND THERE'S

1:27:14 UM.

1:27:14 YOU KNOW, A UH.

1:27:18 A DRAINAGE POINT AT THAT POINT.

1:27:21 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UH IN

1:27:23 BETWEEN UH, SOLUTION FOR THE

1:27:26 CITY.

1:27:27 UH, WE COULD HAVE JUST REPAVED

1:27:29 THESE THINGS AND BUILD THOSE A

1:27:30 LITTLE CURBS UH, THAT WOULD, UH

1:27:34 WOULDN'T DEAL WITH THE SIDEWALK

1:27:36 SITUATION BUT IT WOULD HELP.

1:27:38 YOU KNOW.

1:27:39 KEEP THE WATER OUT OF PEOPLE'S

1:27:41 ,UM.

1:27:43 YARDS.

1:27:45 IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT

1:27:47 POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO WRITE

1:27:49 AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT?

1:27:52 AND NOT RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH

1:27:54 A STATE LAW?

1:27:55 THAT IS, IF YOU DO A PRETTY

1:27:58 GOOD JOB OF JUST RESURFACING

1:27:59 DEALING WITH THE WATER RUNOFF

1:28:00 BUT YOU DON'T PUT ON SIDEWALKS

1:28:05 OR IS THAT JUST NOT POSSIBLE?

1:28:08 ANYWAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.

1:28:09 THANK YOU.

1:28:12 THANK YOU RICK.

1:28:13 UM WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT WITH

1:28:14 OUR UM WITH OUR COUNCIL.

1:28:17 APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TESTIMONY

1:28:18 .

1:28:19 UM NEXT UP WE HAVE SHIRLEY AND

1:28:22 THEN CHRISTOPHER.

1:28:40 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

1:28:43 YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.

1:28:45 OKAY, GREAT.

1:28:46 UM, THANKS FOR.

1:28:47 THE OPPORTUNITY.

1:28:47 I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY I WAS

1:28:49 INVITED HERE.

1:28:50 I THINK BECAUSE I CONTACTED

1:28:52 COUNCILMAN WEBER ABOUT SOME

1:28:53 ISSUES I WAS HAVING ON MY

1:28:54 PRIVATE WAY WHICH ARE TOTALLY

1:28:57 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE

1:28:58 SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY.

1:28:59 UM, I WANT TO MENTION THEM ONLY

1:29:01 IN THE SENSE THAT.

1:29:04 UM, SITTING HERE LISTENING I

1:29:06 UNDERSTAND THAT PRIMARIES WERE

1:29:08 ALL OVER BOSTON AND I'M SURE

1:29:11 THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH

1:29:12 AN OLD CITY AND WE USED TO HAVE

1:29:13 COW PATHS AND CARRIAGE ROADS

1:29:14 AND ALL THAT AND WE'RE

1:29:16 SUFFERING UNDER THE THOSE

1:29:18 ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO

1:29:19 MAKE IT, UH, A.

1:29:22 BETTER PLACE TO LIVE FOR

1:29:23 EVERYBODY.

1:29:24 UM, AND ALSO BEING A FORMER

1:29:26 STATE EMPLOYEE I KNOW ABOUT

1:29:29 PRIORITIZATION OF SCARCE

1:29:30 RESOURCES AND HOW DIFFICULT

1:29:31 THIS JOB IS.

1:29:33 SO IN SAYING.

1:29:34 THAT I.

1:29:34 LIVE ON A PRIVATE WHERE I'VE

1:29:35 LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS AND

1:29:37 JAMAICA PLAIN.

1:29:38 I LIVE ON UNION AVE, WHICH IS

1:29:40 KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION

1:29:41 BECAUSE UNION OF THE MAIN PART

1:29:44 OF IT IS A PUBLIC WAY AND WE

1:29:46 HAVE UH IT'S AN L-SHAPED STREET

1:29:48 THAT GOES FROM WASHINGTON TO

1:29:49 GREEN AND MY SECTION HAS FOUR

1:29:52 HOUSES ON IT AND IT'S A PRIVATE

1:29:55 WAY AND IN THE PRIVATE WAY LAW

1:29:59 MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT

1:30:00 ABUTTERS OWN HALF THE STREET

1:30:02 AND THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE MY A

1:30:04 BUTLER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS

1:30:06 THE CITY.

1:30:08 NOW POTHOLES ARE THERE.

1:30:10 THEY DON'T BOTHER US BECAUSE IT

1:30:12 SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN BECAUSE THEY

1:30:14 COME AROUND THE CORNER SO

1:30:16 QUICKLY AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO

1:30:18 SIDEWALKS THERE LOTS OF PEOPLE

1:30:20 AND LOTS OF CHILDREN BECAUSE WE

1:30:22 ABOUT THE FIELD AT ENGLISH HIGH

1:30:23 THERE ARE LOTS OF KIDS WALKING

1:30:25 TO AND FROM THE TENNIS COURTS,

1:30:27 THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THE

1:30:29 SOCCER FIELD AND THERE ARE NO

1:30:32 SIDEWALKS AND PEOPLE COME

1:30:33 AROUND THE CORNER OR UP THE

1:30:35 HILL AND IT'S VERY VERY VERY

1:30:37 DANGEROUS.

1:30:38 WE'VE POSTED SIGNS NO PARKING

1:30:41 AND PEOPLE PARK THERE ALL THE

1:30:42 TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TO

1:30:43 WATCH THE GAME AND WE'RE IN A

1:30:47 SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE DON'T

1:30:51 BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT

1:30:53 TO HAVE THEM TOWED.

1:30:54 THEY FIGHT WITH THE TOW DRIVERS

1:30:56 .

1:30:56 IT'S A BAD, BAD SCENE THERE.

1:30:59 I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I JUST

1:31:01 WANT TO RAISE IS THAT EVERY

1:31:03 PRIVATE WEIGHS DIFFERENT.

1:31:05 EVERY SET OF RESIDENTS THAT

1:31:07 LIVE ON THOSE PRIVATE WAYS ARE

1:31:09 DIFFERENT.

1:31:10 I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME

1:31:11 ACROSS WITH A ONE YOU KNOW

1:31:14 SOLUTION FITS ALL AND MAKE

1:31:15 PEOPLE HAPPY.

1:31:17 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN

1:31:19 POSSIBLE, BUT DOING SOME

1:31:20 ASSESSMENT AND PRIORITIZATION

1:31:22 OF THE WORST.

1:31:23 SITUATIONS AND THE ONES THAT

1:31:25 PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE

1:31:27 SOLVED WOULD BE GREAT.

1:31:29 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE

1:31:30 .

1:31:31 WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE

1:31:34 OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET

1:31:36 NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD

1:31:38 MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT

1:31:40 BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE WAY.

1:31:41 WELL AGAIN I'M A TAXPAYING

1:31:44 CITIZEN.

1:31:45 MY SAFETY MEANING PEOPLE THAT

1:31:48 ASSAULT ME WHEN I TELL THEM YOU

1:31:49 CAN'T PARK HERE YOU'RE GOING TO

1:31:50 GET TOWED.

1:31:51 AND THEY VERBALLY ABUSED ME AND

1:31:53 ONE TIME PHYSICALLY ABUSED

1:31:55 ME FOR TELLING THEM THAT TO

1:31:57 SAVE THEM THE $250 TOTAL FEE.

1:32:00 THE POLICE SAY WE CAN'T DO

1:32:01 ANYTHING.

1:32:02 THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE

1:32:05 SOMEONE DUMPED AN OLD.

1:32:07 COLEMAN POP UP TENT TRAILER ON

1:32:09 OUR PRIVATE WAY ILLEGALLY AND

1:32:12 ALL THE POLICE WERE SAYING WE

1:32:14 CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S

1:32:15 A PRIVATE WAY.

1:32:15 WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

1:32:18 THIS HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY DUMPED.

1:32:21 WE'RE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.

1:32:24 THE LAWS STILL APPLY, RIGHT?

1:32:26 I MEAN, THAT'S THE PART THAT

1:32:28 I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TOO IS

1:32:31 CITIZENS OF PRIVATE WAVES

1:32:33 DESERVE ALL THE REST OF CITY

1:32:34 SERVICES PROTECTION BY THE

1:32:37 POLICE.

1:32:38 ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THE PRIVATE

1:32:40 WAY.

1:32:42 I MEAN, SO THERE'S A MYRIAD

1:32:46 OF PROBLEMS FOR PRIVATE WAVE

1:32:47 RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND

1:32:48 POTHOLES ARE A BIG ONE.

1:32:50 LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT

1:32:51 TOO CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE

1:32:53 WE'RE ON A HILL.

1:32:54 WATER DOESN'T SETTLE IN OUR

1:32:56 YARDS.

1:32:57 THE POTHOLES ARE OKAY BECAUSE

1:33:00 THEY'RE NOT THAT DEEP AND IT

1:33:01 SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN.

1:33:02 SO POTHOLES ARE NOT MY BIGGEST

1:33:04 ISSUE.

1:33:04 BUT IT'S FUNNY THAT IN THE LAST

1:33:07 THREE MONTHS TWO TEAMS HAVE

1:33:09 COME AND FILLED THE POTHOLES ON

1:33:11 MY STREET.

1:33:12 I NEVER PUT IN A311 NO ONE ON

1:33:14 MY STREET DID EITHER SO I DON'T

1:33:15 KNOW MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE

1:33:17 OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE BUT UM

1:33:20 THERE'S A MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS

1:33:22 WITH PRIVATE WAYS.

1:33:23 I THINK THE CITY WOULD DO WELL

1:33:25 IN CHECKING WITH THE RESIDENTS

1:33:27 TO SEE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THEY

1:33:31 HAVE, WHAT DO THEY NEED?

1:33:34 AND AGAIN THIS MAY BE A BIG JOB

1:33:37 BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO

1:33:38 PRIORITIZE PEOPLE.

1:33:39 AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT A

1:33:41 LOT OF THESE DIRT ROADS I KNOW

1:33:43 IN MAINE AND IN NOVA SCOTIA

1:33:45 BECAUSE WE GO THERE A LOT THEY

1:33:47 HAVE DIRT ROADS THAT ARE HARD

1:33:49 PACKED AND THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD

1:33:51 BECAUSE THE FREEZE THAW ISSUE

1:33:53 DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE FOR

1:33:54 THEM BECAUSE IT JUST DRAINS

1:33:56 AWAY.

1:33:56 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A

1:33:58 ANOTHER SOLUTION TO LOOK INTO

1:34:00 OTHER FORMS OF HARD PACKED

1:34:04 ROADS THAT WON'T PRODUCE

1:34:06 POTHOLES LIKE GET PRODUCED WITH

1:34:09 ASPHALT AND PATCH COLD PATCH.

1:34:14 UM I JUST THINK LIKE ONE OF THE

1:34:16 OTHER VIDEO THE WOMAN IN THE

1:34:18 VIDEO EARLIER SAID UH, WE HAVE

1:34:20 TO BE CREATIVE AND WE HAVE TO

1:34:22 LOOK AND LOOK AT THE OUTDATED

1:34:23 LAWS.

1:34:24 I WORKED FOR THE COURTS FOR 30

1:34:25 YEARS.

1:34:25 I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS

1:34:27 ON THE BOOKS THAT JUST ARE NOT

1:34:28 IN SERVICE OF US TODAY.

1:34:31 UM WITH TECHNOLOGY AND

1:34:32 EVERYTHING ELSE ONE OF THE

1:34:33 PROBLEMS IS WAZE, RIGHT?

1:34:35 IT'S ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW

1:34:36 TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC THAT'S

1:34:37 BEEN CAUSED BY NEW TRAFFIC

1:34:39 PATTERNS AND THEY'RE USING ALL

1:34:40 THESE PRIVATE WAYS.

1:34:42 ALL THE PUBLIC IS USING THEIR

1:34:44 EASEMENT TO GET OVER TO CUT OFF

1:34:46 THE LIGHT ON WASHINGTON STREET

1:34:48 OR GET THROUGH SOMEWHERE ON

1:34:49 AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.

1:34:51 I MEAN, WE'RE CREATING PROBLEMS

1:34:54 THAT ARE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS

1:34:55 FOR US.

1:34:55 I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A BIG

1:34:57 SORT OF A GLOBAL LOOK.

1:34:59 JUST JUST SOME THOUGHTS ON THE

1:35:00 MATTER.

1:35:01 UH, HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY I

1:35:04 CAN, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE TIME

1:35:06 AND, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE

1:35:09 ISSUES I'VE HAD.

1:35:10 THANKS.

1:35:10 THANK YOU.

1:35:11 SHIRLEY.

1:35:13 UM, NEXT UP.

1:35:15 IS CHRISTOPHER.

1:35:25 HI.

1:35:25 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

1:35:27 WE CAN HEAR YOU.

1:35:28 YEP.

1:35:28 WONDERFUL.

1:35:29 UM, I'M CHRIS ARENA.

1:35:30 I'M ACTUALLY CAMERA OFF BECAUSE

1:35:32 I'M CALLING FROM ACADIA

1:35:34 NATIONAL PARK RIGHT NOW THAT

1:35:35 THIS MATTER MATTERS SO MUCH TO

1:35:36 ME THAT I FIGURED I'D TAKE A

1:35:38 SECOND FOR MY VACATION AND CALL

1:35:39 IN AND TALK ABOUT MY

1:35:40 EXPERIENCE.

1:35:41 UM, THIS ISSUE DATES BACK TO

1:35:43 CONVERSATIONS WITH FORMER

1:35:44 COUNCILOR LAURA COUNCIL CURRENT

1:35:46 COUNCILOR WEBER.

1:35:47 UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH

1:35:49 HOMEOWNERS.

1:35:49 IN THE GROVE.

1:35:50 IN BOSTON.

1:35:51 WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR SIX YEARS

1:35:52 NOW.

1:35:53 WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:35:53 UM, THE HISTORY OF THIS

1:35:54 NEIGHBORHOOD IS HILARIOUS AND

1:35:56 INTERESTING AND STRANGE.

1:35:57 IT USED TO BE A SUMMER

1:35:58 DESTINATION OF THE WEALTHY BACK

1:36:00 BAY ELITES WHO WOULD TAKE THEIR

1:36:01 COTTAGES AND THEIR CARRIAGES

1:36:03 DOWN TO A COTTAGE, UH.

1:36:04 AND AND VACATION IN THE CITY

1:36:07 OF BOSTON AND THEIR OWN CITY UM

1:36:08 AND THEIR LITTLE, UH, OASIS.

1:36:10 WE LOVE THE CHARACTER OF THIS

1:36:12 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:36:13 UM, BUT THERE ARE TWO CORE

1:36:14 ISSUES THAT I THINK EVERYONE

1:36:16 EXPERIENCES AND HAS DIFFERENT

1:36:17 REACTIONS TO.

1:36:18 THE FIRST OF WHICH IS ROADS AND

1:36:20 I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A

1:36:21 SECOND AND THE SECOND OF WHICH

1:36:22 IS STREETS.

1:36:23 SO THE STREETS IN THE GROVE

1:36:24 WERE NEVER CONSIDERED THOUGHT

1:36:26 OUT MAPPED OUT INTENTIONALLY IN

1:36:29 A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED

1:36:31 WITH A LOT OF OUR ISSUES.

1:36:33 UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE ON A

1:36:35 ROAD CALLED DANA ROAD.

1:36:36 UH, AND THERE'S 3 OR 4

1:36:37 DIFFERENT PARTS TO DANA ROAD

1:36:39 WHERE IT JUST CUTS OFF THROUGH

1:36:40 A RESIDENCE.

1:36:41 UH, WHAT USED TO BE A COTTAGE

1:36:43 AND IS NOW UH, A HOUSE.

1:36:44 UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO HAS,

1:36:47 YOU KNOW, LIFELONG RESIDENTS

1:36:48 AND GENERATIONAL RESIDENTS AND

1:36:49 FOLKS LIKE MY WIFE AND I WHO

1:36:51 CAME FROM ALLSTON AND MANY

1:36:53 YEARS IN DIFFERENT BOSTON

1:36:54 NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE ROSLINDALE.

1:36:55 UM, A STORY THAT I WANTED TO

1:36:57 SHARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN

1:36:58 THE ROAD WHICH IS REALLY

1:37:00 CHALLENGING IS WE HAD A

1:37:01 RESIDENT WHO PASSED AWAY NOT

1:37:02 MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS

1:37:03 AGO.

1:37:03 UM, I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY

1:37:06 CHATTING WITH THE AMBULANCE

1:37:07 AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO CAME THE

1:37:08 PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS AFTER THE

1:37:10 RESIDENT HAD PASSED.

1:37:12 UM AND THEY HAD MENTIONED JUST

1:37:13 HOW DIFFICULT WAS TO NOT ONLY

1:37:15 FIND THE HOUSE BUT TO GET IN,

1:37:17 UM, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET

1:37:19 LIFESAVING CARE.

1:37:20 UM, THEY HAD TO COME DOWN A

1:37:22 ROAD CALLED LINDEN WHICH

1:37:23 CHANGES ITS NAMES TWO DIFFERENT

1:37:24 TIMES AND HAS THE WORST

1:37:26 POTHOLES IN BOSTON.

1:37:27 I PROMISE YOU, UH, YOU WILL NOT

1:37:29 FIND A DEEPER POTHOLE.

1:37:30 I THINK COUNCILOR WEBER TALKED

1:37:32 ABOUT A TANK SIZED POTHOLE.

1:37:33 THERE ARE THREE OF THEM ON

1:37:35 LINDEN.

1:37:35 SO THIS AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET

1:37:36 DOWN.

1:37:36 HAD TO DRIVE THE OTHER WAY.

1:37:38 AND AGAIN AT THIS POINT WE'RE

1:37:40 TALKING ABOUT DELAYING LIFE

1:37:41 SERVING CARE.

1:37:42 UM, UH, THE SIMPLE ISSUES WITH

1:37:44 THE POSTAL SERVICE I HAVE THOSE

1:37:46 SAME ISSUES IN THE WINTER WHERE

1:37:47 THEY CAN'T DRIVE DOWN AND

1:37:48 DELIVER OUR MAIL.

1:37:49 UM, BUT ANOTHER REALLY PRESSING

1:37:51 CURRENT ISSUE IS A TREE ON, UH,

1:37:53 DANA ROAD RECENTLY DIED.

1:37:55 A VERY, VERY LARGE TREE.

1:37:57 UM, AND IN TRYING TO GET THIS

1:37:59 TREE REMOVED WE SPOKE TO

1:38:01 EVERSOURCE.

1:38:01 WE SPOKE TO THE CITY, WE SPOKE

1:38:03 TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT

1:38:04 PARTNERS AND AS A PRIVATE WAY,

1:38:06 THE ONLY RESPONSE TO THE

1:38:08 RESPONSIBILITY COMES FROM THE

1:38:09 NEIGHBORS OF ACTUALLY SERVICING

1:38:10 THIS TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF A

1:38:11 ROAD.

1:38:12 UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK THE ISSUE

1:38:15 IS NOT TO HAVE THE GROVE BECOME

1:38:17 A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THREE

1:38:20 DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS AND

1:38:22 INDUSTRIALIZATION I THINK SOME

1:38:23 OF THE LONG TERM NEIGHBORS

1:38:23 WOULD BE AGAINST THAT, ALTHOUGH

1:38:25 I THINK IT'D BE LOVELY TO HAVE

1:38:27 MORE NEIGHBORS IN MY

1:38:27 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:38:28 UM, BUT THE REALITY IS THE

1:38:29 GROVE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE

1:38:30 MOST PRESSING AREAS UH, STREET

1:38:32 DISREPAIR IN THE ENTIRE CITY.

1:38:34 NO ONE'S GOING TO USE THIS

1:38:36 PLACE AS A CUT THROUGH, I

1:38:37 PROMISE.

1:38:37 WASHINGTON TO GROVE STREET IS

1:38:39 NOT A COMMON ROUTE THAT PEOPLE

1:38:41 TAKE.

1:38:41 UM, BUT IF WE CAN FIND A

1:38:43 SOLUTION THAT CAN ENSURE

1:38:46 RESIDENTS WHO NEED MEDICAL CARE

1:38:48 IN THE MOMENT GET IT FASTER

1:38:50 THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT

1:38:51 DELIVERY DRIVERS KNOW WHICH

1:38:53 PART OF DANA ROAD THEY CAN GET

1:38:54 TO.

1:38:55 UM, AND ALSO THAT FUTURE

1:38:56 RESIDENTS KIND OF KNOW WHAT

1:38:57 THEY'RE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY

1:38:58 BUY A PROPERTY WITH A SEPTIC

1:39:00 TANK AND A PRIVATE ROAD.

1:39:01 I THINK COLLABORATION UM IN A

1:39:04 MIDDLE GROUND LIKE PERHAPS JUST

1:39:06 A PAVING OR A HEAVY DIRT PACK

1:39:08 LIKE I BELIEVE SHIRLEY JUST

1:39:09 SAID AS OPPOSED.

1:39:11 TO SIDEWALKS AND A DEEPLY

1:39:12 DEFINED ROAD.

1:39:13 UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED.

1:39:15 LIKE I SAID, I WAS HAVING

1:39:16 CONVERSATIONS WITH KENDRA,

1:39:17 LAURA AND A FORMER

1:39:18 COUNCIL LAURA AND CURRENT

1:39:20 COUNCIL MEMBER.

1:39:20 I THINK YOU'LL FIND MANY

1:39:22 RESIDENTS IN THE GROVE WANT TO

1:39:23 BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION, NOT

1:39:24 JUST HAVE IT PERFORMED FOR THEM

1:39:26 .

1:39:26 UM THE DIFFICULTY IS THE

1:39:28 PROCESS AND THEN I'LL CLOSE

1:39:29 WITH THIS.

1:39:30 THE PICK PROCESS IS REALLY

1:39:32 CHALLENGING.

1:39:32 I DON'T KNOW HALF OF MY

1:39:33 NEIGHBORS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T

1:39:35 WANT TO BUT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN

1:39:37 DIFFERENT AREAS.

1:39:38 SOME WORK VERY DIFFERENT JOBS

1:39:39 AND SCHEDULES AND.

1:39:41 THE GROVE IS.

1:39:42 A REALLY BIG NEIGHBORHOOD TO

1:39:43 GET 50% OF PEOPLE EVEN TO A

1:39:45 MEETING LET ALONE TO AGREE ON

1:39:47 SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE REALLY

1:39:48 CHALLENGING.

1:39:49 SO INSTEAD IF WE COULD FOCUS ON

1:39:51 SOLUTIONS THAT CAN ACTIVATE

1:39:52 CERTAIN NEIGHBORS UM, THAT CAN

1:39:54 ALSO BRING THE ROAD UP TO A

1:39:57 STANDARD IF NOT A CODE THAT

1:39:58 WOULD BE FANTASTIC AND I'M SO

1:39:59 GRATEFUL AT THE CHANCE TO

1:40:00 SPEAK.

1:40:01 UM AND WE'RE HAPPY BE HAPPY TO

1:40:02 STAY INVOLVED.

1:40:03 THANK YOU.

1:40:04 THANK YOU CHRIS.

1:40:07 UH, THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC

1:40:09 TESTIMONY.

1:40:09 I'LL NOW GO TO THE LEAD SPONSOR

1:40:12 FOR ANY CLOSING REMARKS AND

1:40:13 THEN WE'LL, UH, CLOSE IT OUT.

1:40:15 UH THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:40:15 THANK YOU TO.

1:40:17 ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDED

1:40:19 ,UM, REMARKS.

1:40:21 UM, A LOT OF CREATIVE IDEAS.

1:40:25 AND WE'LL DEFINITELY.

1:40:28 INCORPORATE THEM.

1:40:29 MAY BE REACHING.

1:40:29 OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ON,

1:40:33 UM, COMING UP.

1:40:34 WITH WAYS ON HOW TO.

1:40:38 GET CREATIVE ON BRINGING

1:40:40 RELEASE.

1:40:40 RELIEF TO.

1:40:42 UH, THE.

1:40:43 RESIDENTS THAT.

1:40:43 ARE LIVING ON PRIVATE WAYS.

1:40:45 UM.

1:40:46 I GUESS WHAT OF MY.

1:40:47 QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO

1:40:49 FIND OUT.

1:40:50 SUPERINTENDENT NE IS.

1:40:53 IF YOU WERE TO.

1:40:54 FILL ALL THE POTHOLES ON

1:40:57 PRIVATE.

1:40:57 WAYS TO THE 311 TO THE 311 THAT

1:41:03 YOU RECEIVE IT.

1:41:05 UM AND SO YOU HAVE THIS NUMBER

1:41:06 NOW BUT IF YOU COULD FIND OUT

1:41:09 WHAT WOULD THAT.

1:41:10 COST YOU?

1:41:11 BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUAL

1:41:13 COMPLAINTS.

1:41:13 THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED OUT.

1:41:15 IF WE CAN GET A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

1:41:17 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.

1:41:19 UM.

1:41:20 I THINK IT COULD BE USEFUL TO

1:41:24 ME TO.

1:41:24 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COSTS.

1:41:27 WOULD BE.

1:41:28 UM.

1:41:30 FOR JUST FILLING THE

1:41:31 POTHOLES.

1:41:32 UM.

1:41:34 SO SPEAKING OF OF HOLES THAT

1:41:37 HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILLED OR

1:41:38 ONES THAT WE FILL.

1:41:39 THE ONE THAT YOU HAVEN'T

1:41:40 FILLED.

1:41:42 ONES THAT WE HAVEN'T FILLED.

1:41:43 OKAY.

1:41:43 GOTCHA.

1:41:44 311 REQUEST THAT HAVE BEEN

1:41:46 CLOSED OUT SAYING.

1:41:47 HEY THESE ARE PRIVATE.

1:41:49 WAYS WHEN I CAN FILL IT OUT.

1:41:50 IT GOES THROUGH THIS ASSET.

1:41:51 ASSESSMENT PROCESS, UM,

1:41:52 WHETHER.

1:41:53 IT REACHES THIS PUBLIC SAFETY

1:41:55 THRESHOLD.

1:41:56 RIGHT.

1:41:58 SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE

1:41:59 TO.

1:42:00 FILL THOSE.

1:42:01 UM YEAH.

1:42:02 WE DON'T WE CAN TRY.

1:42:04 THE ONLY ISSUE WOULD BE YOU.

1:42:07 KNOW.

1:42:07 AGAIN THE PUBLIC DOESN'T

1:42:10 DIFFERENTIATE.

1:42:11 THEY SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH

1:42:12 THE ROADWAY.

1:42:12 IT'S A POTHOLE INTERNALLY.

1:42:14 YOU KNOW WE SEE WE DEAL WITH

1:42:16 THEM KIND OF AS ROADWAY

1:42:17 DEFECTS.

1:42:17 SO.

1:42:18 UM, I CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW.

1:42:25 LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP

1:42:26 WITH.

1:42:27 UM.

1:42:28 I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT

1:42:29 ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT

1:42:30 WE CAN COME UP WITH.

1:42:32 OKAY.

1:42:33 UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HEARD

1:42:36 FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS.

1:42:38 YOU KNOW, THE TAX PAYERS, UH

1:42:40 ,THEIR.

1:42:41 THEIR TAXES GO INTO.

1:42:43 A.

1:42:43 GENERAL FUND WHICH THEN GOES IN

1:42:45 FIX.

1:42:45 FIXES, UM, POTHOLES.

1:42:47 OR PROVIDE CITY SERVICES.

1:42:49 UM.

1:42:50 TO TO OTHER STREETS.

1:42:52 AND AGAIN LIKE THIS IS.

1:42:54 JUST TRYING.

1:42:54 TO FIND.

1:42:55 A STEP FORWARD ON TRYING TO.

1:42:57 YOU KNOW.

1:42:58 GET THESE RESIDENTS THAT

1:42:59 LIVE ON.

1:42:59 PRIVATE WAVE AND.

1:43:00 I'M NOT.

1:43:01 AWARE OF ANY YOU KNOW

1:43:04 DIFFERENT TAXING TAXES.

1:43:08 I DON'T.

1:43:09 THINK THEY'RE GETTING ANY

1:43:10 THEY'RE NOT PAYING LESS IN

1:43:11 TAXES TO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY

1:43:14 TO TO TRY TO GET YOU KNOW,

1:43:15 THESE RESIDENTS.

1:43:17 UM.

1:43:17 YOU KNOW, SOME SOME RELIEF

1:43:20 AND ONE WAY IS.

1:43:21 YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO UPDATE

1:43:22 THE LAW TO KIND OF GET UM, YOU

1:43:25 KNOW WHAT.

1:43:26 WHAT.

1:43:26 WOULD WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING

1:43:27 AND GOING THROUGH NOW.

1:43:28 SO JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE

1:43:30 WHO WAS PART OF THE

1:43:32 CONVERSATION.

1:43:33 SHOUT OUT TO UH, MATT FROM MY

1:43:34 TEAM WHO BEEN WORKING ON THIS

1:43:37 AND HE FOUND THIS CITY

1:43:39 ORDINANCE THAT.

1:43:41 WE ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP TO

1:43:42 COULD BE UPDATED.

1:43:44 UM, TO PROVIDE.

1:43:45 UH, THE CITY WITH.

1:43:47 MORE UH, FLEXIBILITY.

1:43:49 I'M USING AIR FORCE BUT I KNOW

1:43:50 IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE.

1:43:53 UM, BUT JUST PROVIDING THAT,

1:43:54 YOU KNOW, LEGAL UH.

1:43:56 PARAMETER AROUND IT.

1:43:58 UM, AND THEN JUST TRYING TO.

1:43:59 FIND WAYS.

1:44:00 ON TO MAKE IT.

1:44:01 YOU KNOW, UM, I.

1:44:02 GUESS BETTER.

1:44:04 IMPLEMENTED INSTEAD OF.

1:44:05 CREATING A THRESHOLD.

1:44:06 JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE

1:44:08 FILLING THESE.

1:44:09 UM, UH, FILLING THE POTHOLES ON

1:44:10 THESE PRIVATE WAY BUT HAPPY TO

1:44:12 TO THE CONVERSATION.

1:44:14 LOOKING FORWARD TO A WORK IN

1:44:15 SESSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO

1:44:16 WORKING WITH ALL THE

1:44:17 CONSTITUENTS.

1:44:18 ON FINDING.

1:44:19 CREATIVE WAYS ON HOW TO SOLVE

1:44:21 THIS.

1:44:21 THANK YOU.

1:44:23 THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORL AND

1:44:24 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS

1:44:25 FORWARD AND TO YOUR TEAM AND

1:44:26 UM, EVERYBODY THAT'S PROVIDED

1:44:28 UH, TESTIMONY AND UM

1:44:30 SUPERINTENDENT, THANK YOU FOR

1:44:31 YOUR WORK REALLY AND TRULY UM

1:44:32 AND TO YOUR TEAM.

1:44:33 UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR

1:44:34 PERSPECTIVE.

1:44:35 UH, THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0807

1:44:38 IS ADJOURNED.

1:44:39 THANKS, EVERYONE.

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