Government Operations on October 15, 2026
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| 11:02 | decision | UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES. |
| 18:20 | decision | AND I KNOW, UH, THIS ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES. |
| 18:54 | pushback | UM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY DEFECTS. |
| 20:39 | pushback | UH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS. |
| 21:14 | decision | UM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE TO BE A VOTE. |
| 21:37 | pushback | WOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A PRIVATE… |
| 24:53 | pushback | IN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO… |
| 36:04 | decision | THE VOTE TO THERE'S THE PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A SURVEY… |
| 38:18 | decision | IT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. |
| 41:50 | pushback | UM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL, YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY… |
| 56:24 | decision | AND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE THE CITY'S. |
| 57:17 | decision | AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD. |
| 59:05 | decision | FLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR TO WHAT LIKE SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED IS THAT THEY… |
| 59:42 | decision | ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT. |
| 1:02:29 | decision | UM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM AND. |
| 1:04:42 | decision | THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO. |
| 1:05:34 | decision | IS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE. |
| 1:31:31 | pushback | WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT… |
| 1:42:28 | pushback | I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP WITH. |
| 48:03 | money | $1 — said 1 time |
| 1:31:57 | money | $250 — said 1 time |
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The committee held a hearing on a proposed ordinance regarding city maintenance and pothole repairs on private ways [11:01]. Participants discussed using asphalt for temporary roadway repairs [17:49] [59:58], emergency vehicle access and public safety [19:47], drainage issues caused by a lack of catch basins [19:13], and the legal and financial challenges of converting private ways to public streets through the betterment process [21:00] [25:42]. Public Works staff outlined current 311 pothole response procedures [27:11] alongside the labor, cost, and operational constraints of larger repairs [37:18] [57:40] [1:08:00]. During public testimony, residents described severe street degradation affecting mail delivery, emergency access, vehicle maintenance, and property safety [1:10:47] [1:13:45] [1:37:08], noted issues with illegal dumping [1:32:26], and highlighted the difficulty of reaching neighbor consensus for betterment projects [1:39:43]. No formal vote was taken, and councilors agreed to continue working with city staff to analyze costs and implementation options [1:09:06] [1:44:16].
What it means: The meeting focused on Docket 0807, an ordinance concerning pothole repairs and temporary road maintenance on private ways throughout the city [11:02]. Participants discussed the legal restrictions against spending public funds on private property [19:39], as well as the practical necessity of filling dangerous defects to ensure emergency vehicle access [19:50]. The conversation highlighted the distinction between quick asphalt patches and full roadway reconstruction through the Public Improvement Commission's betterment process, which requires abutter agreement and adherence to full city standards [17:49], [21:04], [34:21].
Who moved it: The matter was sponsored by Councilor Aaron Murphy [11:08] and brought forward for discussion with Councilor Worrell [14:02], [1:50:19]. Public Works Operations Superintendent Daniel Nee testified on behalf of the administration regarding current field practices and technical constraints [10:44], [11:31], [16:10]. Councilors Louijeune [11:20], Fitzgerald [15:16], Flynn [26:21], and Weber [41:33] also questioned the administration, followed by video and live testimony from resident constituents [1:10:09], [1:19:42].
What to watch: Councilors plan to convene a working session to explore legal options, clarify definitions between temporary maintenance and permanent resurfacing, and draft potential ordinance amendments [1:01:31], [1:03:38]. Superintendent Nee was asked to follow up with cost estimates and data on 311 pothole requests received for private ways [57:59], [1:40:47]. The transcript does not settle when the committee will report out the proposal or when a final council vote will occur [1:44:38].
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| private | 113 |
| city | 64 |
| street | 61 |
| potholes | 41 |
| residents | 41 |
| ways | 40 |
| water | 37 |
| asphalt | 36 |
| people | 33 |
| road | 33 |
| years | 32 |
| cost | 30 |
| mean | 30 |
| pothole | 28 |
| process | 28 |
| take | 27 |
| use | 26 |
| come | 25 |
| forward | 24 |
| issue | 24 |
| maybe | 22 |
| sidewalks | 21 |
| fix | 21 |
| temporary | 20 |
| council | 19 |
| ordinance | 19 |
| work | 19 |
| streets | 19 |
| resurfacing | 18 |
| roads | 18 |
| issues | 18 |
| different | 18 |
| grove | 18 |
| boston | 17 |
| something | 17 |
| property | 17 |
| law | 16 |
| live | 16 |
| much | 16 |
| used | 16 |
| guess | 16 |
| part | 15 |
| sure | 15 |
| able | 15 |
| number | 15 |
| state | 15 |
| wouldn't | 15 |
| fill | 15 |
| conversation | 14 |
| sewer | 14 |
| even | 14 |
| saying | 14 |
| testimony | 13 |
| trying | 13 |
| drainage | 13 |
| works | 13 |
| repair | 13 |
| probably | 13 |
| hear | 13 |
| many | 13 |
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9:42 OPERATIONS.
9:43 TODAY IS OCTOBER 15TH 2026
9:46 AND THE EXACT TIME IS 1006.
9:48 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO
9:49 OF THE ACT OF 2025 MODIFYING
9:51 CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF THE
9:52 OPEN MEETING LAW AND RELIEVING
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10:00 PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE
10:01 PUBLIC.
10:01 THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE
10:02 CONDUCTING THIS HEARING
10:03 VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.
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10:22 COUNCILORS.
10:23 PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN
10:25 AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.
10:26 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON
10:27 IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED
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10:30 TESTIFY.
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10:32 PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT
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10:37 CAVANAUGH AT NEGA.
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10:46 ADDED TO THE LIST.
10:47 JUST AS A HEADS UP FOR CENTRAL
10:49 STAFF WE DO HAVE TWO
10:51 PRERECORDED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
10:53 VIDEOS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAY.
10:56 IF WE CAN PLAY THOSE BEFORE WE
10:58 DO PUBLIC TESTIMONY I THINK
11:00 THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
11:01 UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS
11:02 ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO
11:06 ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES.
11:08 THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY
11:10 COUNCILORS BRIAN WORRELL AND
11:11 AARON MURPHY AND WAS REFERRED
11:13 TO THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 15TH,
11:14 2026.
11:15 TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY
11:17 COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL
11:18 COUNCILOR FLYNN
11:20 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE AND
11:20 COUNCIL AS WELL.
11:22 BUT FOR NOW BEFORE WE GO TO UM
11:25 THE THE PANEL UH ALL RIGHT,
11:28 CITY ADMIN EXCUSE ME OUR
11:30 SUPERINTENDENT OF STREET
11:31 OPERATIONS DANIEL NEE I'LL GO
11:32 TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR ANY
11:34 OPENING REMARKS YOU MAY HAVE.
11:35 UH, COUNCIL ORAL YOU HAVE THE
11:36 FLOOR.
11:37 UH THANK YOU.
11:37 CHAIR.
11:38 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
11:39 HERE.
11:39 UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU,
11:40 SUPERINTENDENT.
11:41 ME?
11:41 UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
11:43 TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ALL,
11:44 UM, OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK UH
11:48 INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK UM,
11:49 ALONGSIDE OF YOU.
11:51 UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I
11:54 KNOW A LOT OF OTHER COUNCILORS
11:55 ,UM, HAVE, UH, BROUGHT UP
11:59 AROUND HOW DO WE GET MORE
12:01 SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO HELP
12:03 THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING
12:05 ON PRIVATE WAVES?
12:07 UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS BUY INTO
12:10 PRIVATE WAYS NOT KNOWING THAT
12:11 THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY
12:13 FOR THE RESURFACING OF THE
12:16 STREETS, SIDEWALKS BUT
12:18 EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE GROUND
12:20 AND BRINGING IT UP TO CODE UH,
12:22 WHICH COULD INCLUDE STREET
12:24 LIGHTS.
12:25 UM, AND THAT COST CAN BE UP TO
12:29 UM, SIX FIGURES UM FOR
12:31 RESIDENTS.
12:32 SO WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO FIND
12:33 WAYS ON HOW TO MAKE THESE ROADS
12:36 THAT ARE USED BY MORE THAN THE
12:38 INDIVIDUALS THAT WE LIVE ON THE
12:40 STREET.
12:41 UM.
12:43 EASIER TO USE UM AND RESURFACE
12:46 AND BRING THEM A LITTLE BIT
12:47 MORE RELIEF, UH, TO THEIR
12:49 PRIVATE WAYS.
12:50 I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS
12:52 A CITY CODE THAT SAYS THAT YOU
12:54 KNOW, WE COULD DO SOME
12:55 PATCHWORK.
12:55 UM, THIS POINT IT JUST AIMS TO
12:59 ADD UH, THE WORD ASPHALT UH,
13:02 INTO THAT UM UM UM, TEMPORARY
13:05 FIX THAT CITY EMPLOYEES CAN
13:07 CURRENTLY DO.
13:08 BUT I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING TO
13:09 SEE IF ASPHALT IS THE MOST COST
13:13 EFFECTIVE WAY KNOWING THAT
13:14 THESE POTHOLES WILL COME BACK
13:17 UP TO BE RESURFACED YEAR OVER
13:19 YEAR.
13:20 SO I'D LOVE TO UH, YOU KNOW,
13:22 HAVE EVERYONE THOUGHTS I KNOW A
13:24 CONVERSATION AROUND THE CONSENT
13:26 DECREE JUST GOT BROUGHT TO ME.
13:28 SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO
13:30 BRINGING, UM EVERYONE START
13:33 TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT KIND
13:34 OF RELIEF WE COULD DO HERE ON A
13:36 CITY LEVEL TO RESIDENTS WHO
13:38 ARE, UM, BEING PLAYED WITH
13:41 STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
13:42 FIXED UM, FOR YEARS.
13:45 UH, SO THANK YOU CHAIR.
13:46 THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS
13:47 BEEN HERE.
13:48 AND YOU GUYS.
13:49 ALL COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU HAVE
13:51 THE FLOOR.
13:57 BUT THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
13:59 THANK YOU TO.
14:01 COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR BRINGING
14:02 THIS FORWARD CRITICAL ISSUE
14:06 QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
14:08 THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE
14:10 SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON
14:13 ESPECIALLY ON THE CITY
14:15 COUNCIL ITS UM QUALITY OF LIFE
14:17 BASIC CITY SERVICES.
14:18 I'M ALSO WORKING WITH CHINATOWN
14:21 RESIDENTS ON ALTHOUGH IT'S
14:23 SOMEWHAT ON AN UNRELATED BUT
14:25 IT'S MORE OF A WATER AND SEWER
14:26 ISSUE AND CHINATOWN AS IT
14:29 RELATES TO UM, PRIVATE ALLEYS.
14:31 BUT THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES
14:34 AS IT RELATES TO MAKING SURE WE
14:35 FIX UM, POTHOLES, PROVIDE UM,
14:39 BASIC CITY SERVICES THE BEST WE
14:40 CAN.
14:41 UM THANK YOU COUNCIL OVERALL
14:43 FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND
14:46 UM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
14:47 DISCUSSION.
14:48 THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
14:48 THANK YOU COUNCILOR FLYNN.
14:50 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
14:52 GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
14:54 GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.
14:55 THANK YOU TO COUNCIL OUT FOR
14:56 THIS FILING.
14:57 WE'VE HAD A LOT
14:59 OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PRIVATE
14:59 WAYS.
15:00 WE'VE HAD THEM HERE IN HYDE
15:01 PARK.
15:02 SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
15:03 CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT
15:04 OF STEPS CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE.
15:06 I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT
15:07 OF BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS
15:08 OF LIKE WHAT'S POSSIBLE IS NOT
15:09 POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE
15:10 ARE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
15:11 LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
15:12 CONVERSATION.
15:13 THANK YOU.
15:15 WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY
15:16 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD
15:17 COUNCILOR SHELDON FOR.
15:19 THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU
15:21 TO COUNCIL.
15:22 UH, A LOT OF, UH, ALLEYWAYS AND
15:23 PRIVATE WAYS ON THE SOUTH END
15:25 AND WE GET THIS EVERY SO OFTEN.
15:26 SO, UH.
15:26 LOOKING FORWARD TO.
15:27 LEARN WHAT CAN BE DONE AND HOW
15:29 WE CAN CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE.
15:30 UH, APPRECIATE IT COMING
15:31 FORWARD.
15:31 THANK YOU.
15:32 CHAIR.
15:32 THANK YOU.
15:33 I JUST WANT TO THANK THE THE
15:35 FILER AS WELL.
15:36 I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS
15:37 CONVERSATION I HAD YOU JUST
15:38 HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY I LOVE THE
15:39 IDEA OF THIS I HAVE SOME
15:41 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GALLERY AND
15:43 OWNERSHIP AND LIABILITY.
15:45 SO UM.
15:46 LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION
15:47 AND AND SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE
15:48 THIS A REALITY.
15:49 CHARLESTOWN IN PARTICULAR IS
15:50 JUST AT THE A LOT OF PRIVATE
15:53 WAYS THAT WERE HORSE CARRIAGE
15:55 UM THAT UH WHOLE UM UH JUST
15:59 AVENUES I GUESS I DON'T EVEN
16:00 KNOW THE RIGHT WORD FOR IT BUT
16:01 JUST WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH
16:02 THIS IN CHARLESTOWN AND EAST
16:04 BOSTON AND UM, LOOK FORWARD TO
16:06 UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN MAKE
16:07 THIS A REALITY.
16:07 BUT FOR NOW WE'LL GO TO
16:09 SUPERINTENDENT LEE FOR ANY
16:10 OPENING REMARKS HE MAY HAVE AND
16:11 THEN WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS.
16:12 SO, UM, DANIEL, YOU HAVE THE
16:14 FLOOR.
16:15 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
16:16 THANK YOU COUNCILORS.
16:17 UH, HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO
16:19 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
16:20 UM, REGARDING UH.
16:23 UH.
16:24 PRIVATE WAYS TO THE BEST
16:25 OF MY ABILITY UM, AS A PRIVATE
16:29 WAY RESIDENT UM, SINCE.
16:31 1978 I FEEL A LOT OF THE PAIN
16:33 GOING ON, BUT, UM, HAVE A TON
16:36 OF INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.
16:37 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
16:38 THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.
16:41 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
16:42 AND JUST A.
16:42 QUICK QUESTION.
16:43 ARE YOU, UM ON THE PICK?
16:46 I AM NOT NO.
16:47 OKAY.
16:47 ALL RIGHT.
16:48 I JUST WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE I
16:49 THINK A LOT.
16:49 OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE MAY
16:51 INVOLVE THE PICK BUT YEAH I
16:53 DID.
16:53 I DID ABOUT FOUR HOURS
16:54 OF PREP WITH THE PICK YESTERDAY
16:56 SO.
16:56 OKAY GREAT.
16:57 GREAT.
16:58 I'M NOT AN EXPERT.
16:59 I HAVE NEWFOUND KNOWLEDGE THAT
17:00 I'M WILLING TO SHARE.
17:02 OKAY GREAT.
17:03 ALL RIGHT.
17:04 UM.
17:04 SO WE'LL JUST GO TO.
17:05 THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR UM,
17:07 QUESTIONS AND WE'LL DO SIX.
17:09 MINUTES OF QUESTIONS FOR
17:10 EACH.
17:10 WHEN, UM, I PUT MY HAND UP.
17:12 THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE ONE
17:14 MINUTE.
17:14 UM, BUT FOR NOW I'LL JUST.
17:15 GO.
17:16 TO COUNCILOR WORRELL.
17:20 THANK YOU.
17:21 CHAIR.
17:21 UM THANK.
17:22 YOU SUPERINTENDENT.
17:23 ANY NEW QUESTIONS CURRENTLY
17:25 RIGHT NOW.
17:26 WHAT TYPE OF TEMPORARY
17:27 REPAIRS?
17:27 WHAT ANY REPAIRS DO WE
17:30 CURRENTLY.
17:30 DO ON PRIVATE WORKS?
17:32 UM, SO TEMPORARY REPAIRS IT
17:34 USUALLY GETS LISTED AS A
17:36 POTHOLE.
17:36 UM.
17:37 IT YOU KNOW, I THINK INTERNALLY
17:39 WE SEPARATE POTHOLES FROM
17:41 ROADWAY DEFECTS.
17:42 POTHOLE IS A TYPE OF A ROADWAY
17:43 DEFECT.
17:44 BUT, UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOUR
17:46 OFFICES REACH OUT TO US AND
17:47 WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT.
17:49 UM, WE TEND TO USE ASPHALT.
17:51 UH, WE TEND TO USE LIKE, UH,
17:53 MATERIALS.
17:54 SO IF IT'S AN ASPHALT PRIVATE
17:56 WAY WE WILL USE ASPHALT.
17:58 UM UH OTHER PLACES IF IT'S
18:00 GRAVEL WE WILL USE GRAVEL OR
18:02 UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLEANED
18:04 MAILINGS FROM WHEN WE RESURFACE
18:05 YOU TAKE THE UM THE ASPHALT
18:08 THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THEY
18:09 ,YOU KNOW, SCREED IT AND TAKE
18:11 OUT LARGER CHUNKS AND WE CAN
18:12 USE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO
18:15 MATCH LIKE MATERIAL EXISTING
18:17 MATERIAL.
18:18 GOT IT.
18:18 AND I KNOW, UH, THIS
18:20 ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU
18:23 KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES.
18:26 UM, I'VE TALKED TO A FEW
18:27 DIFFERENT, UM, UH, EMPLOYEES
18:31 FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU KNOW,
18:33 THEY'RE YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE
18:34 ARE SAYING WELL, YOU KNOW,
18:35 WE'LL HAVE TO REFILL THE
18:37 POTHOLES EVERY OTHER YEAR,
18:39 RIGHT?
18:39 UM, WHAT WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT
18:41 AROUND FILLING THAT POTHOLE
18:44 VERSUS RESURFACING THE STREET
18:46 JUST ALTOGETHER?
18:49 SO ON CITY STREET RESURFACING
18:50 IS THE MUCH BETTER OPTION,
18:52 RIGHT?
18:53 UM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN
18:54 UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S
18:55 CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY
18:57 DEFECTS.
18:58 UM.
18:59 AS IT PERTAINS TO PRIVATE
19:01 WAYS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN, YOU
19:03 KNOW, MINIMAL MAINTENANCE
19:05 THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
19:07 UM, YOU KNOW, WATER IS THE
19:08 NUMBER ONE SOURCE, THE NUMBER
19:10 ONE PROBLEM, UH, WHERE THERE'S
19:11 ANY TYPE OF DRAINAGE OR RUNOFF
19:13 UM, LACK OF CATCH BASINS ON
19:15 PRIVATE WAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND
19:18 WHOEVER YOU SPOKE TO WAS WAS
19:20 100% RIGHT.
19:21 YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE THERE'S
19:22 THE LIST OF ALLEYS THAT WE HIT
19:23 KIND OF EVERY YEAR AND THE SAME
19:25 ONES THE SAME SPOTS.
19:26 UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AREN'T
19:28 HAPPY WITH JUST A BAND-AID
19:30 REPAIR BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW,
19:31 UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THERE IS A
19:33 STATE LAW UM, I KNOW
19:35 COUNCILOR APOLOGIST UH,
19:36 REFERRED TO IT BUT THERE IS A
19:37 STATE LAW THAT, UH, PROHIBITS
19:39 US FROM USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON
19:41 PRIVATE PROPERTY AND
19:42 TECHNICALLY, UH, PRIVATE WAY IS
19:44 PRIVATE PROPERTY.
19:46 HOWEVER, IN THE INTEREST
19:47 OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW,
19:50 WE WE WILL GOD FORBID WE
19:52 WOULDN'T WANT A LADDER TRUCK OR
19:53 AN AMBULANCE TO NOT BE ABLE TO
19:55 GET SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF, YOU
19:56 KNOW, UM, BAD ROADWAYS.
19:59 SO THAT'S THE.
20:00 UH.
20:01 HOW WE FEEL COMFORTABLE
20:04 POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY BREAKING A
20:05 LAW AND DOING REPAIRS.
20:07 UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO, UH
20:10 ,BE ARRESTED FOR THAT AT SOME
20:11 POINT IF NEED BE, BUT YOU KNOW.
20:15 IDEALLY WE WOULD WANT
20:17 RESURFACING A FULL RECORD
20:18 OF ALL THESE YOU KNOW, THESE
20:19 ROADWAYS HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED,
20:20 YOU KNOW, SINCE THE 1800S.
20:22 UM, IDEALLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO
20:25 HAVE FULL RECONSTRUCTION.
20:27 BUT AGAIN IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY
20:30 SO THAT'S WHERE WE THAT THAT'S
20:31 WHERE THE THE ISSUE LIES.
20:33 GOT IT.
20:34 AND I MEAN I'VE RECEIVED.
20:36 UH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD
20:39 A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM
20:41 RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS.
20:42 IF THEY WERE TO.
20:43 AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF
20:45 THEY WERE TO RESURFACE THE
20:48 STREET THEN THEY HAVE TO DO NOT
20:50 ONLY RESURFACING ON THE STREET
20:51 BUT BRINGING THAT STREET UP TO
20:53 CODE.
20:55 SO I THINK SO THAT'S PART
20:57 OF THAT UH BRINGING IT UP TO
21:00 CODE THAT'S PART OF THE PICK
21:00 THE PIKE BETTERMENT PROCESS.
21:02 UM AND WE WILL BE SENDING A
21:04 LINK OUT UM DAILY WE'LL BE
21:05 SENDING A LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY
21:07 .
21:07 I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT ALREADY.
21:09 UM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU
21:12 KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A
21:13 MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD
21:14 HAVE TO BE A VOTE.
21:14 YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE MEETINGS
21:15 WOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT
21:17 WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO
21:19 TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND
21:20 BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A
21:21 PRIVATE WAY TO A PUBLIC WAY,
21:22 THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE
21:24 STREET UP FROM ITS CURRENT
21:25 CONDITIONS INTO, YOU KNOW, CITY
21:28 SPECS, UM, YOU KNOW, FULLY
21:30 ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW,
21:32 50, YOU KNOW, 53 53FT OF OF
21:35 OF WIDTH RIGHT WHICH NOW WE'RE
21:37 TALKING PROBLEMS HERE ON A LOT
21:38 OF THESE ALLEYS, UM, YOU KNOW,
21:41 ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM,
21:43 DRAINAGE LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO
21:44 BE ADDRESSED.
21:45 WATER AND SEWER HAS THEIR OWN
21:46 SET OF BETTER BETTERMENT, UH,
21:48 REGULATIONS.
21:49 UM, YOU KNOW, IF UH IF THE
21:52 ABUTTERS GOT TOGETHER AND JUST
21:54 WANTED TO RESURFACE IT, YOU
21:55 KNOW, THAT'D BE LESS COSTLY FOR
21:56 THEM.
21:57 UM.
21:58 BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
21:59 TAKE IT OVER AS A PUBLIC WAY
22:01 UNLESS THAT CRITERIA IS MET.
22:05 RIGHT.
22:05 UM.
22:06 AND I.
22:06 GUESS I'M OF THE.
22:08 MINDSET THAT MOST.
22:10 OF THESE STREETS.
22:11 ARE LEADING TO OTHER MAIN
22:13 THOROUGHFARES OR COMING OFF A
22:14 MAJOR THOROUGHFARE LIKE THE.
22:16 WORD PRIVATE.
22:18 UM FOR ME DOESN'T.
22:20 MEAN THAT.
22:21 YOU CAN'T.
22:22 YOU KNOW.
22:24 THE PUBLIC CAN'T USE THE
22:25 STREET.
22:25 SO I FEEL LIKE THAT ALL PUBLIC
22:26 ROADS ANYWAY, UM AND I AM
22:29 OF THE MINDSET THAT THE CITY
22:30 SHOULD, UM, ALL STREETS AND
22:32 SIDEWALKS UH, I KNOW THAT THE
22:34 COST, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT
22:36 I'VE ALWAYS HEARD CONSTANT
22:37 PUSHBACK FROM.
22:39 UM, BUT, UH, I'M HOPING THAT
22:42 THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION AT
22:43 LEAST UM, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC
22:46 SAFETY ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S A
22:47 PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE
22:50 WE HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW,
22:52 WALKING.
22:52 DOWN THE.
22:52 STREET.
22:53 UM, THAT WE CAN TRY TO FIND
22:55 A WAY ON HOW TO MAKE AT LEAST
22:57 SURFACES UM, EVEN UM AND
23:01 PEDESTRIAN UH UH FRIENDLY AND
23:03 SAFE.
23:04 UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THE PUBLIC
23:08 SAFETY ASPECT OF IT.
23:10 UH, WHAT.
23:10 WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD.
23:12 LIKE WHEN WOULD YOU KNOW
23:13 PUBLIC WORKS JUMP IN AND SAY
23:15 HEY THIS THIS THIS NEEDS SOME
23:17 ATTENTION.
23:19 SO TYPICALLY WE'LL GET EITHER A
23:20 CASE VIA 311 OR FROM CITY
23:23 COUNSELORS OFFICE OR.
23:24 FROM THE.
23:25 THE FIFTH FLOOR OWNERS WILL
23:27 FLAG AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN
23:28 RAISED TO THEM AND WE'LL GO
23:29 TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
23:31 UM YOU KNOW IF IT'S A RIM
23:33 BUSTER OR SOMETHING THAT'S
23:34 REALLY BAD, WE'LL GO FIX IT.
23:36 UM, YOU KNOW, USE TEMPORARY
23:37 PATCH.
23:38 UH, WE'LL CATCH IT TEMPORARILY.
23:39 RIGHT.
23:39 KNOWING THAT THE ISSUE IS GOING
23:40 TO POP UP AGAIN 99% OF THE TIME
23:43 IT'S WATER RELATED, RIGHT?
23:44 YOU KNOW, WATER CARVED OUT THE
23:46 GRAND CANYON.
23:47 SO YOU KNOW OUR PRIVATE IS IN
23:49 ALLEYS AREN'T AREN'T ANY MATCH
23:51 FOR IT BUT BASICALLY HOW BAD IS
23:53 THE POTHOLE?
23:54 UM YOU KNOW I THINK UH IN
23:57 COUNCIL IT DEPENDS DISTRICT IS
23:57 THAT SOME UP IN SUMMIT STREET
23:59 THERE THAT'S KIND OF JUST TOO
24:02 FAR GONE FOR ANY TYPE
24:03 OF TEMPORARY REPAIR.
24:04 UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S
24:06 JUST YEARS AND YEARS OF NEGLECT
24:08 .
24:08 UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THROWING SOME
24:11 ASPHALT INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE
24:12 WOULDN'T WE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE
24:14 TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S.
24:15 JUST IT'S.
24:16 JUST TOO LARGE.
24:16 BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND
24:19 OF WE SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT TO
24:21 TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I'LL SAY
24:22 YES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YES
24:23 THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A
24:24 PROBLEM FOR AN AMBULANCE OR
24:25 SOMETHING OR NO, THIS IS, YOU
24:27 KNOW, MINOR AND COSMETIC AND
24:29 YOU KNOW THE THE ABOUT IT IS
24:30 REALLY NEED TO TO TO STEP UP
24:32 HERE AND FIX IT.
24:32 GOT IT MY MY LAST QUESTION I
24:35 SEE THE HAND RAISED IS AND YOU
24:37 KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE STATE
24:38 LAW UM YOU KNOW THE LEGALITY
24:42 OF TOUCHING THE STREET AND THE
24:43 LIABILITY LIKE WHAT NEGATIVE
24:45 IMPACTS.
24:45 WOULD YOU SEE.
24:49 IN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY
24:51 LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING
24:53 THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED
24:54 ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO
24:57 JUST RESURFACE A PRIVATE WAY?
25:01 UM, WELL NEGATIVE IMPACTS I
25:03 GUESS AT THIS POINT WITH THE
25:05 STATE LAW AS IT IS IT WOULD BE
25:06 ILLEGAL.
25:07 YOU KNOW.
25:08 WHAT IS IT WHAT LIKE WHAT IS
25:10 COULD YOU'VE GONE IN THERE.
25:12 YOU SAID PUBLIC SAFETY LIKE.
25:14 WHAT IS IT?
25:14 I HAVEN'T READ THE LAW.
25:15 IN FULL.
25:16 I'M AWARE OF IT BUT WHAT ARE
25:17 THE CONSEQUENCES.
25:19 I DON'T KNOW UM OKAY.
25:21 IT'S CAUSED US TO CAUSE US TO
25:23 KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE DO.
25:24 I THINK THERE'S A THRESHOLD YOU
25:25 CAN ONLY DO UP TO 25%.
25:27 NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST
25:28 ROADWAY AND SIDEWALKS ARE
25:29 THAT'S PART OF THAT 20 I DON'T
25:31 KNOW WHAT THAT 25% IS.
25:33 IS THAT THE WHOLE COST OF UH,
25:35 RECORDING THE YOU KNOW, THE
25:36 DRAINAGE AND LIGHTING AND
25:37 UTILITY MOVEMENT AND WHATEVER
25:39 ELSE THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW,
25:40 UM, UH CONSTRUCTION IF THAT'S
25:42 ALL INTO THAT 25% UM, YOU KNOW,
25:46 WE'RE STILL GOING TO OPERATE ON
25:47 IF A FIRE TRUCK OR AN AMBULANCE
25:48 CAN GET THERE, YOU KNOW,
25:50 QUICKLY AND SAFELY THAT'S
25:52 THAT'S KIND OF OUR THRESHOLD
25:54 NOW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
25:55 PROBABLY GOING TO MAINTAIN AS
25:56 FAR AS THE HIGHWAY YOU KNOW,
25:57 HIGHWAY DIVISION GOES UM, YOU
26:00 KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO TO TO
26:03 RESURFACE THAT'S A LARGER
26:04 CONVERSATION THAT'S PROBABLY
26:05 GONNA HAVE TO INVOLVE LEGAL AND
26:06 ENGINEERING.
26:07 UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BUT WE'LL
26:10 STILL YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS FOR
26:13 ACCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH,
26:14 PUBLIC SAFETY.
26:15 ALL RIGHT.
26:17 THANK YOU FOR.
26:18 BEING KIND.
26:18 OF.
26:18 BROUGHT.
26:21 THANK YOU.
26:21 UM, COUNCILOR FLYNN AND.
26:22 OH, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE
26:23 YOU'VE BEEN JOINED BY
26:24 COUNCILOR WEBER.
26:25 AND GO AHEAD.
26:26 COUNCIL FOR.
26:29 THE MORNING.
26:29 DO YOU.
26:30 WANT TO COUNCIL?
26:33 SAY, UM, AGAIN WANT TO THANK
26:39 COUNCILOR?
26:42 DANN?
26:43 TELL ME WHAT THE THE PROCESS IS
26:46 OR THE PROCESS OF FILLING THE
26:48 POTHOLE.
26:50 SO AND I KNOW IT'S WE'RE
26:52 TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PRIVATE
26:54 AREAS BUT.
26:55 CITY WIDE WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE
26:58 OR NO LET'S START WITH PUBLIC.
27:00 JUST TELL ME THE PROCESS WHEN
27:01 IT COMES INTO UM THE 311 APP
27:04 HOW DOES TELL ME THE PROCESS
27:06 FROM THEN HOW HOW IT ACTUALLY
27:08 GETS DONE FILLING THE POTHOLE.
27:10 SURE.
27:11 SO A CASE WILL COME IN AS
27:12 POTHOLE UM AND I ADVOCATED SO
27:13 WE JUST WE JUST OVERHAULED OUR
27:15 OUR BACK OFFICE THREE UM.
27:16 SYSTEM AND I ADVOCATED STRONGLY
27:19 TO GET IT CHANGED FROM POTHOLE
27:21 TO ROADWAY DEFECT I WAS
27:23 OVERRULED.
27:24 UM.
27:25 BUT YOU KNOW, A POTHOLE IS A
27:26 TYPE OF ROLE THAT.
27:27 SEEMS IN THE.
27:30 GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T DOESN'T
27:31 CREATE SO THEY'LL JUST CREATE A
27:33 POTHOLE.
27:33 CASE AND COME INTO THE.
27:35 DISTRICT YARD.
27:36 SO TAKE.
27:36 A LOOK AT IT WHERE SOMEBODY HAS
27:37 BACKGROUND NOISE IF YOU CAN UM
27:39 MUTE THAT UH I WOULD APPRECIATE
27:41 IT BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY HEAR
27:42 TO.
27:42 PROTECT UH, YOU UM IT WILL COME
27:46 UP IN CONVERSATION IN TEXT
27:49 MESSAGES.
27:50 COUNCILOR QUINN.
27:52 HE IS, UH, MADAM CHAIR.
27:54 I THINK YOU UM YOU HAVE UH YOU
27:55 HAVE BACKGROUND NOISE.
27:57 UM.
27:58 UM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
27:59 JUST MUTING YOURSELF.
27:59 SORRY.
28:00 YEAH.
28:00 THANK YOU.
28:01 IT'S VERY OKAY.
28:04 BUT FOR NOW.
28:05 I I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING
28:07 COMING OVER.
28:08 OKAY.
28:13 SO WE'LL GET A CASE FOR A
28:14 POTHOLE.
28:15 UM, IT'LL COME IN TO THE
28:16 DISTRICT YARD SUPERVISOR.
28:17 UM, IF THERE'S A PICTURE
28:18 ATTACHED, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE
28:20 TO DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER IT'S A
28:22 POTHOLE.
28:22 UM, UTILITY CASTING ISSUE,
28:25 UTILITY, UH, CUT ISSUE, UM, YOU
28:28 KNOW, OR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE
28:30 IT DOESN'T GET HANDLED BY THE
28:31 HIGHWAY DIVISION.
28:32 UM, IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE OURS
28:34 AND WE OWN IT, UM, IT'LL BE,
28:36 YOU KNOW, ADDED TO A PATCH LIST
28:39 FOR THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY'RE
28:40 OUT PATCHING TYPICALLY THIS
28:41 TIME OF YEAR GOES PATCHING
28:43 MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.
28:45 UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE IN MARCH
28:47 AND APRIL, UM, THEY'RE PATCHING
28:49 PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY.
28:51 UM, SO WE'LL GO OUT AND PATCH
28:53 IT UM, IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY
28:55 UM, CASE IS USUALLY YOU KNOW,
28:58 DEPENDING ON HOW IT LOOK IF
28:59 THERE'S A PICTURE DEPENDING ON
29:00 HOW IT LOOKS.
29:00 CASE IS USUALLY CLOSED AS YOU
29:02 KNOW, PRIVATE WAY.
29:03 UM, ABUTTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE
29:04 FOR REPAIRS NOW IT CAN BE
29:07 CLOSED THAT WAY.
29:08 AND IF THE SUPERVISOR DEEMS
29:09 THAT HEY, THIS IS GOING TO
29:11 CAUSE A PROBLEM IF AN AMBULANCE
29:12 TRIES TO GET DOWN HERE OR A
29:13 LADDER TRUCK OR EVEN IF WE USE
29:16 IT TO COLLECT UH TO ACCESS FOR
29:17 TRASH COLLECTION FOR
29:18 RESIDENTIAL TRASH COLLECTION
29:19 THEY'LL GO PATCH IT.
29:21 HOWEVER, THE RESIDENT WILL
29:22 STILL GET THE NOTIFICATION VIA
29:23 THE APP THAT UM YOU KNOW IT'S A
29:27 PRIVATE WAY ABUTTERS ARE
29:28 RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS.
29:30 OKAY.
29:31 DAN, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME.
29:35 THEN AS I MENTIONED IN MY
29:37 OPENING, I'M WORKING WITH
29:39 CHINATOWN RESIDENTS ON AN ISSUE
29:41 AS IT RELATES TO A PRIVATE WAY
29:43 UM WITH WITH THE WATER AND
29:45 SEWER RELATED ISSUES.
29:47 UM, BUT HOW DOES HOW DOES
29:50 PUBLIC WORKS WORK WITH UM
29:53 BOSTON WATER AND SEWER ON THESE
29:56 TYPES OF ISSUES?
29:57 IS THERE UM.
30:02 IS DO YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE UM
30:05 LOGISTICALLY WHEN TO DO PLOT
30:07 HOLES BUT IS THERE OPPORTUNITY
30:09 TO DO WORK WITH WATER AND SEWER
30:13 AT THE SAME TIME OR ARE THEY
30:15 SEPARATE ISSUES?
30:18 SO IF IT'S.
30:18 JUST A SURFACE POTHOLE ON
30:19 OUR ROADWAYS VERY YOU KNOW WE
30:21 DON'T NEED TO COORDINATE WITH
30:22 WATER AND SEWER.
30:23 UM, CERTAINLY IN THE SPRING
30:25 TIME A LOT OF THE ISSUES ON OUR
30:27 PUBLIC ROADWAYS ARE DEFECTS
30:30 AROUND UH, CATCH BASINS AND
30:32 WATER SHUT OFFS, UM, AND ALL
30:34 THE OTHER UTILITIES.
30:34 I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT
30:35 WATER AND SEWER, BUT IF WE GET
30:36 A CASE FOR THAT WE'LL JUST, UH
30:38 ,REALLOCATED OVER TO, UM,
30:40 WATER AND SEWER.
30:41 AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
30:42 RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS WITHIN
30:44 30IN OF ANY OF THEIR
30:45 INFRASTRUCTURE.
30:46 SO ALL UTILITIES OR ANY
30:47 OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE
30:48 MANHOLES SHUT OFFS, UM, YOU
30:51 KNOW, PULL BOXES THEY'RE
30:52 RESPONSIBLE FOR 30IN AROUND
30:54 EACH UM YOU KNOW, EACH ASSET.
30:58 OKAY.
31:00 SO THE CUT PHASE AND I THEY
31:04 ALWAYS ON UH PUBLIC PROPERTY OR
31:08 DO YOU HAVE MANY THAT ARE UM ON
31:10 PRIVATE.
31:11 MOST ARE ON PUBLIC.
31:12 THERE ARE SOME UM IN PRIVATE
31:15 WAYS.
31:16 SOME ARE OWNED BY WATER AND
31:17 SEWER.
31:18 SOME ARE ACTUALLY PRIVATE
31:19 DRAINS.
31:20 OKAY OKAY.
31:23 IN IN A.
31:25 ONE ISSUE I'M ALWAYS THINKING
31:27 ABOUT IS ON BEACH STREET BUT
31:30 WHEN WHEN THE ROAD YOU KNOW
31:34 MAYBE IT'S POORLY DESIGNED YOU
31:36 KNOW GOING BACK 7080 YEARS UM
31:42 BUT IF THE WATER IF THE WATER.
31:45 CONTINUES TO BE IN THE CATCH.
31:49 BASIN AFTER AFTER A RAINSTORM.
31:51 AND THERE NEEDS TO BE.
31:54 IMPROVEMENTS UM, HOW DOES HOW
31:58 DOES THAT PROCESS WORK WHERE.
32:00 YOU NEED TO YOU NEED.
32:02 TO WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE
32:04 AND AROUND THE CATCH BASIN BUT
32:06 WORKING WITH WATER AND SEWER
32:08 AND AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL IS
32:11 THAT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SAY
32:13 YEAH.
32:13 SO WE'LL GET CASES FOR PUDDLES
32:15 I THINK WHEN WE STARTED DOING
32:17 UM PEDESTRIAN BUMP OUTS FOR
32:18 RAMPS WE RAN INTO A LOT
32:21 OF PROBLEMS.
32:22 UM THAT'S A REGRADING ISSUE
32:23 THAT WE CAN ADDRESS VIA UM YOU
32:25 KNOW, RESURFACING NORMAN PARKS
32:26 AND HIS CREW OVER AT UM AN
32:29 ENGINEERING YOU KNOW, THEY CAN
32:30 COME IN UH, I THINK LET'S SAY
32:32 EAST SPRINGFIELD AT HARRISON
32:34 WAS ONE THEY DID LAST YEAR.
32:35 THAT WAS A BIG ONE.
32:36 UM.
32:38 IF YOU.
32:38 KNOW THE CATCH BASIN ISN'T
32:39 TAKING WATER, THAT WOULD BE A
32:41 WATER AND SEWER ISSUE.
32:42 UM, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS
32:44 THAT THEY CAN DO.
32:44 THEY CAN CLEAN THE ACTUAL CATCH
32:45 BASIN.
32:46 THEY CAN CHECK THE LATERAL
32:47 PIPES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
32:48 TAKING WATER.
32:49 UM, YOU KNOW, UM THAT'S REALLY
32:53 KIND OF THE THE TRUTH THE TWO
32:54 BIGGEST FIXES FOR THAT I MEAN A
32:56 SIMPLE THING WOULD BE JUST TO
32:58 CREATE A311 CASE AND JUST KIND
32:59 OF OUTLINE WHAT'S HAPPENING
33:00 THAT WATER IS BEING HELD OR THE
33:02 CATCH BASIN ISN'T.
33:04 TAKING WATER.
33:05 INTO MY FINAL QUESTION.
33:08 SO ENGINEERING IS.
33:09 ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
33:11 ENGINEERING AT WATER AND SEWER
33:13 ENGINEERING THEY'RE PUBLIC
33:14 WORKS BUT ALSO YOU MENTIONED
33:16 LEGAL SO THEY'RE ALL PART
33:19 OF DISCUSSIONS AS RELATES TO UH
33:22 PRIVATE ALLEYS.
33:23 SO IS THAT ACCURATE?
33:25 UM SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO
33:26 EACH LIKE INDIVIDUAL 311 CASE
33:28 USUALLY NO THAT'S HANDLED ON
33:29 THE HIGHWAY LEVEL AND WITH THE
33:31 SUPERVISOR UM AND LIKE I SAID
33:33 WE DON'T WE WE WE ADVISE THE
33:35 UM.
33:36 CONSTITUENT THAT UNFORTUNATELY
33:38 REPAIRS ARE ON THE A BUTTER AND
33:40 IF WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC
33:43 SAFETY WE WILL GO FIX IT WHILE.
33:45 STILL.
33:45 CLOSING THE CASE THAT WE'RE NOT
33:46 GOING TO FIX IT.
33:47 UM, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
33:49 WHEN THEY CREATE THE 311 MAYBE
33:51 THEY'VE BEEN MISLED BY A REAL
33:52 ESTATE AGENT.
33:53 SHOCKING.
33:54 UM OR THEY JUST DON'T
33:55 UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ON A
33:56 PRIVATE WAY AND THEY SEE THIS
33:58 THEY SEE THE ROAD IN FRONT
33:59 OF THE HOUSE.
33:59 IT LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR STREET,
34:00 RIGHT?
34:00 ACTS AS A REGULAR STREET.
34:01 UM, AND THEY SAY WELL THIS IS
34:03 TERRIBLE.
34:03 THIS NEEDS TO GET FIXED.
34:04 THE CITY SHOULD BE FIXING IT I
34:05 PAY TAXES HOWEVER THERE IS THAT
34:08 THE STATE LAW WE CAN'T USE
34:10 PUBLIC FUNDS TO FIX PRIVATE
34:11 PROPERTY.
34:12 UM.
34:13 YOU KNOW SO.
34:14 SO THERE IS A YOU KNOW, A BIT
34:17 OF CONFUSION ON THAT, YOU KNOW
34:19 THE THE THE BETTERMENT PROCESS.
34:21 YEP.
34:21 ENGINEERING IS FULLY INVOLVED.
34:23 YOU KNOW THEY TAKE THE LEAD
34:24 THEY RUN THE ASSESSMENT THEY
34:25 THEY DO THE SURVEY.
34:26 YOU KNOW THAT'S IF WE GET UM
34:29 YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THE CORRECT
34:31 NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE
34:32 PETITION I THINK WE NEED OVER
34:33 50% OF HOMEOWNERS TO AGREE TO
34:37 UM FOR BETTERMENT.
34:38 UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE
34:39 PROCESS THERE THAT GOES ON.
34:40 I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN
34:42 IN THE PAST 15 YEARS THERE'S
34:44 ONLY BEEN FOUR STREETS THAT
34:45 HAVE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE
34:47 PROCESS.
34:48 OKAY, OKAY.
34:49 MADAM CHAIR, I.
34:50 WAS.
34:51 GOING TO.
34:51 ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BUT I
34:52 DIDN'T WANT TO ASK IF, UM, MY
34:53 TIME IS UP OR WITHOUT
34:55 PERMISSION.
34:56 I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM,
34:58 ASK.
34:58 OKAY.
34:59 IT'LL BE A BRIEF QUESTION.
35:00 SO DAN, IF IF IF PUBLIC.
35:03 WORKS DOES FIX THE POTHOLE ON A
35:05 PRIVATE STREETS.
35:06 THE THE RESIDENTS.
35:08 MOST LIKELY ARE RESPONSIBLE
35:10 FOR.
35:10 PAYING PAYING.
35:11 FOR HOW.
35:12 DO THEY GET A BILL.
35:14 UM THE DO THEY.
35:16 DO THEY THEY JUST.
35:17 GOT A BILL IN THE MAIL FROM
35:18 PUBLIC WORKS OR DID IT.
35:21 DOES THE.
35:22 OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LISTED
35:23 GET A BILL?
35:25 JUST JUST TELL ME THE LOGISTICS
35:26 OF THAT PLACE.
35:28 SO IF WE FIX.
35:28 A POTHOLE WE DO NOT BILL UM
35:30 WE'RE FIXING THE POTHOLE UNDER
35:31 THE GUISE THAT WE NEED TO, YOU
35:33 KNOW, HAVE ACCESS FOR
35:36 AMBULANCES, FIRE TRUCKS THAT
35:37 THAT TYPE OF THING.
35:38 UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
35:40 ABOUT IS IF THEY WERE TO GO
35:41 THROUGH THE THE BETTERMENT
35:42 PROCESS WHERE PUBLIC WORKS COME
35:44 IN AND JUST DID THE WHOLE RECON
35:45 RIGHT ADDED THE PUBLIC, YOU
35:46 KNOW, ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM
35:49 ,RESURFACED THEN THERE WOULD
35:50 BE AN ASSESSMENT CALCULATED.
35:52 THEY WOULD.
35:53 KNOW THAT.
35:54 BEFORE THEY AGREED TO TO MOVE
35:55 FORWARD.
35:56 I BELIEVE I'M GETTING A IT'S
35:58 NOT MY I SPENT SOME TIME THIS
36:00 WEEK LEARNING ABOUT IT BUT I
36:02 BELIEVE THERE'S A YOU KNOW.
36:03 THERE'S THE THERE'S.
36:04 THE VOTE TO THERE'S THE
36:05 PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE
36:06 AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS
36:08 THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A
36:10 SURVEY AND SAY OKAY GENERALLY
36:11 IT'S GOING TO COST THIS AMOUNT
36:13 AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC
36:14 MEETING AFTER THAT.
36:17 SO OKAY WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY
36:18 GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
36:19 THAT'S HOW IT'S OUTLINED TO ME.
36:20 IT WAS OUTLINED TO ME.
36:22 OKAY EXCELLENT.
36:23 UH THANK YOU DAN THANK YOU
36:24 MADAM CHAIR FOR GIVING ME AN
36:25 EXTRA MINUTE.
36:27 UH THANK YOU.
36:28 I DON'T SEE COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE
36:29 ON THE CALL ANYMORE.
36:30 UM, SO WE WILL GO TO
36:33 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND THEN
36:34 COUNCILOR WEBER.
36:36 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
36:38 UH, AND THANK YOU, DAVE FOR
36:39 BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.
36:41 UM.
36:42 IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER
36:43 EVERY STREET IF.
36:44 THIS WERE TO PASS AND SAY EVERY
36:45 PRIVATE WAY BECOMES OWNED BY BY
36:47 UH BY STREETS BUT BY THE CITY,
36:50 UM, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WOULD
36:51 WE HAVE TO ADD DO YOU THINK
36:53 MAYBE I I PROBABLY YOU PROBABLY
36:54 HAVE AN EXACT AMOUNT BUT A
36:55 GUESSTIMATE OF LIKE HOW MANY
36:56 MORE EMPLOYEES WOULD THAT TAKE
36:58 AND WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD.
36:59 SORT OF A BALLPARK.
37:01 COST BE TO TAKE THAT ON?
37:04 BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF TO
37:05 ME THAT BRIGHT IDEA.
37:06 TO THAT QUESTION.
37:07 BUT TO ME THAT'S THE CRUX
37:08 OF THIS, RIGHT.
37:08 LIKE WE COULD DO THIS BUT LIKE
37:10 AT WHAT COST DOES IT COME AND
37:11 ARE WE ABLE TO FILL THAT AND
37:13 THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES HEALTH
37:15 CARE, PENSIONS ETC. THAT WOULD
37:17 GO ALONG WITH THAT?
37:18 YEAH I MEAN AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES
37:21 CERTAINLY ENGINEER ENGINEERING
37:23 IS UNDERSTAFFED AS IT IS AS
37:24 THEY ARE AT MOST YOU KNOW MOST
37:26 DIVISIONS AT THIS POINT.
37:26 BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE A LOT UM
37:31 I COULD TRY TO MAYBE TALK TO
37:33 SOME FOLKS OVER IN ENGINEERING.
37:34 UM I MEAN THE AMOUNT OF WORK
37:36 THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE
37:37 ADDING SIDEWALKS AND MOVING
37:38 UTILITIES AND WATER AND SEWER
37:40 INVOLVEMENT AND AND CATCH
37:42 BASINS AND MOVING DRAINS AND IF
37:44 THE SOME OF THESE HOUSES ARE ON
37:46 SEPTIC SYSTEMS, ODDLY ENOUGH UM
37:48 UH.
37:50 I ANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS I
37:52 YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE A LOT.
37:54 YEAH AND THAT'S.
37:55 JUST.
37:55 THAT'S JUST TO GET THEM UP.
37:57 TO CODE.
37:57 AND WITH THAT AND LET.
38:00 ALONE THE.
38:01 ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
38:02 AS WE.
38:02 WOULD GIVE ANY OTHER STREET
38:03 GOING FORWARD.
38:04 CORRECT.
38:05 AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT
38:06 RESIDENTS WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
38:07 I MEAN WE GET CHALLENGED MOST
38:09 TIMES WE GO OUT AND PATCH A
38:11 POTHOLE.
38:12 THERE ARE FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT
38:13 IT.
38:14 THEY DON'T WANT US ON THEIR
38:15 STREET BECAUSE NOW IT'S UH
38:17 SHARON STREET, RIGHT?
38:18 IT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE
38:18 OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO
38:20 THROUGH THE PROCESS.
38:20 THE RESIDENT VOTED IT DOWN
38:22 BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO
38:23 BE A CUT THROUGH THE STREET, UH
38:24 SPEEDING.
38:26 SO IT THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE
38:28 HERE.
38:29 WITH IS THERE ANY.
38:30 BENEFIT WHEN IT IS BY THE WAY I
38:32 MEAN ARE THEY TAXED MORE ON IT.
38:34 IS THERE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO
38:36 AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY WHEN
38:37 THEY LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY?
38:39 UM I LOST YOU A LITTLE BIT BUT
38:41 I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ARE THEY
38:42 IS THERE ANY BENEFIT I THINK SO
38:45 AGAIN I'VE LIVED AS
38:47 COUNCILOR FLYNN KNOWS ON A
38:48 PRIVATE WAVE SINCE 1978.
38:51 IT'S ALMOST LIKE OUR OWN
38:52 PARKING.
38:52 UM, WE OWN THE PROPERTY SO YOU
38:55 KNOW, YOU GET TOGETHER WITH THE
38:56 FOLKS.
38:57 I SAID LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE.
38:58 WE HAVE WHAT SIX HOUSES ON ON
38:59 THE PRIVATE WAY WE ALL AND GET
39:01 TOGETHER AND SHARE LIKE
39:03 OWNERSHIP OF IT.
39:04 UM WE ALSO HAVE TO CLEAN IT.
39:06 WE ALSO HAVE TO SHOVEL IT.
39:08 UM YEAH.
39:08 YOU KNOW.
39:09 I GET THAT.
39:10 YEAH.
39:11 IS THERE ANY TAX DIFFERENCE.
39:13 LIKE THE AMOUNT OF.
39:14 PROPERTY IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY
39:16 IS IT.
39:17 SPLIT INDIVIDUALLY?
39:18 IS IT ADDED SQUARE FOOTAGE TO
39:19 SOMEBODY'S.
39:20 TAX BASE.
39:21 THAT THEY WOULD BE TAXED UPON
39:22 AND IF IT WERE TAKEN AWAY MIGHT
39:24 THEY SEE THEIR TAXES GO DOWN IF
39:25 IT WAS A PUBLIC STREET OR NOT?
39:29 UH I JUST GOT MY TAX BILL LAST
39:31 WEEK.
39:32 UM I DON'T THINK IT'S ADDED TO
39:34 THE TAX BILL.
39:35 I DON'T KNOW I DON'T.
39:36 I DON'T THINK IT IS BUT I
39:37 DON'T KNOW.
39:38 NO THAT'S I WAS JUST WONDERING
39:39 IF LIKE THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO
39:40 SAY HEY IF YOU DO IT THAT'S
39:41 LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU TAXED
39:43 ON ETC. OR THE PROPERTY IF YOU
39:45 YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR
39:46 PROPERTY RIGHT?
39:46 IT'S NOT A ROAD WE NEED TO GO
39:48 DOWN THERE BUT I JUST THESE ARE
39:50 THE I THINK.
39:51 THE BENEFIT THE BENEFIT
39:52 WOULD BE RIGHT HAVING HAVE IT
39:53 BE RESURFACED EVERY 20 OR 30
39:55 YEARS HOWEVER WE KNOW I THINK
39:56 THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT AND
39:57 HAVING YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S
39:58 SWEPT AND.
39:59 YEAH MAINTAINED AND SNOW AND
40:00 ICE MAYBE GOTCHA.
40:02 SO I MEAN I THINK THE MAIN
40:04 THING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS THIS
40:05 WOULD THIS WOULD BE A VERY
40:07 EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING.
40:09 UH ADD THEM ON EXTREMELY
40:11 EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING I THINK
40:12 THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT UH.
40:13 KEY THAT I WANT UH THAT I WANT
40:16 TO TAKE NOTE OF.
40:16 UM, AND.
40:17 THAT'S ALL THE TIME AT MY OTHER
40:19 COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME GREAT
40:19 QUESTIONS AND SO ON TO THE, UH,
40:20 WHAT FOLKS NEED TO DO WHEN THEY
40:22 DO HAVE ONE AND WHAT THE.
40:23 OTHER.
40:23 ADVANTAGES DECISIONS MIGHT BE.
40:24 SO, UH, I'M ALL SET.
40:26 CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
40:27 THE TIME OF DAY.
40:28 THANK YOU.
40:29 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD
40:32 .
40:32 COUNCILOR WEBER.
40:37 YEAH.
40:38 THANK YOU.
40:39 UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
40:45 WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU, BUT MY
40:47 INTERNET HAS BEEN BAD, SO.
40:48 I DON'T I'M NOT.
40:49 A.
40:50 GOOD JUDGE OF THIS, BUT I THINK
40:52 YOU'RE COMING IN CLEAR NOW.
40:54 OKAY.
40:55 THANK YOU.
40:56 UH, YEAH.
40:57 I, UH I LIVED OUT A PRIVATE WAY
40:59 FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN JP
41:02 ADELAIDE TERRACE AND IT WAS
41:03 LIKE, UH, A GRAVEL UH, SORT
41:07 OF ROAD AND WE WORKED WITH THE
41:09 NEIGHBORS.
41:09 THERE'S ALSO A DEAD END.
41:12 UM BUT I GUESS IT WAS ONE ISSUE
41:14 WITH THIS PAVING WE HAD TALKED
41:17 ABOUT PAVING OUR PRIVATE WAY
41:18 BUT WITHOUT THE OTHER
41:20 INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS
41:22 SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD JUST
41:24 FUNCTION AS SORT OF LIKE, UH, A
41:26 SLIDE FOR WATER TO GO INTO OUR
41:28 BASEMENT AND STUFF.
41:29 BUT HE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT
41:31 ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT
41:33 ELSE WE WOULD YOU NEED TO PUT
41:35 IN AND WHEN YOU PAVE AT LEAST
41:37 ONE OF THESE GRAVEL PRIVATE
41:39 WAYS.
41:40 YEAH.
41:41 SO WE'VE RUN INTO THE
41:42 PROBLEMS LIKE THAT UP THE
41:43 GROVE, UM, THAT WE DO USE TO
41:45 ACCESS FOR TRASH.
41:46 UM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND
41:48 ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN
41:50 MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL,
41:51 YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY
41:53 THAT THE WATER RUNS OFF IT'S
41:54 COME INTO OUR BASEMENT.
41:56 THAT TYPE OF THING.
41:57 SO YEAH, ANY TYPE OF YOU KNOW,
42:01 CHANGE LIKE THAT TO THE TO THE
42:02 ROADWAY OR TO THE IT DOES
42:04 AFFECT DRAINAGE ESPECIALLY IF
42:05 THERE ARE NO CATCH BASINS OR IF
42:07 THERE IS NO YOU KNOW, NO SYSTEM
42:09 SET UP TO CAPTURE THAT WATER.
42:13 OKAY.
42:14 YEAH I UH SO JUST I, I I'M
42:17 IN MY CAR BECAUSE I AM IN THE
42:20 GROVE AND I WANTED TO, UH, BE
42:23 ABLE TO TALK TO YOU FROM HERE.
42:25 UM SO THERE THE THE POTHOLES IN
42:28 THE GROVE RANGE FROM UH I DON'T
42:31 KNOW, LIKE THOSE THE SIZE OF A
42:34 LARGE TURTLE TO LIKE THE SIZE
42:36 OF A SHERMAN TANK.
42:37 UH, SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE
42:41 OKAY, SO CAN YOU FILL THE
42:44 SMALLER POTHOLES IN THE GROVE
42:45 WITH ASPHALT?
42:46 WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
42:49 SO WE WOULDN'T USE ASPHALT.
42:50 UP THERE.
42:51 YOU WANT TO USE WHAT'S EXISTING
42:52 ?
42:52 UH, ASPHALT IS UP.
42:53 YOU KNOW WHEN IT WHEN IT CURES.
42:55 IT'S A HARD STATIONARY MATERIAL
42:57 UP THERE.
42:58 THE GRAVEL KIND OF MOVES IN
43:00 FLOWS AS IT GETS SATURATED AS
43:01 IT FREEZES AS IT DRIES OUT.
43:03 UM, THAT WOULD JUST USING
43:05 ASPHALT WOULD JUST CAUSE A
43:06 PROBLEM.
43:08 UM I BELIEVE WAS TWO YEARS AGO
43:09 ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE
43:10 GROVE ACTUALLY CALLED THE EPA
43:12 ON US BECAUSE WE WERE USING
43:13 MAILINGS TO FILL UM, SAYING
43:14 THAT IT WAS A HAZARDOUS
43:16 MATERIAL.
43:16 IT WASN'T IT'S A ACCEPTED
43:18 ROADWAY MATERIAL.
43:19 UM.
43:20 THE GROVE.
43:21 IS A TOUGH ONE.
43:22 THE GROVES ARE TOUGH ON MOST
43:23 OF THE FOLKS UP THERE DON'T
43:24 WANT DON'T.
43:25 WANT US UP THERE.
43:26 UM, THERE IS A THERE IS A
43:28 GENTLEMAN UP THERE THAT DOES
43:30 HAVE A, UH A LITTLE SKID STEER
43:31 LIKE A BOBCAT.
43:32 UM, I THINK I TALKED TO FREDDIE
43:34 UH, LAST NIGHT THE LIKE WE DID
43:36 DUMP, UM, SOME MAILINGS FOR HIM
43:38 TWO YEARS AGO AND HE WOULD KIND
43:40 OF UPKEEP UP THERE.
43:41 UM, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT
43:43 PLACE TO TO GO EVERY TIME WE GO
43:45 UP THERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT US
43:46 THERE THAT THEY'RE CALLING TO
43:47 GET US OUT.
43:47 THEY'RE CALLING THE.
43:48 POLICE.
43:48 ON US.
43:49 UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE
43:52 CRITERIA IS, YOU KNOW, CAN AN
43:55 AMBULANCE OR A FIRE TRUCK MAKE
43:57 IT THROUGH IF NEEDED?
44:02 AND THAT CANISTER OR.
44:07 UH.
44:07 I'VE TRAVELED.
44:13 WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE?
44:14 BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ENORMOUS
44:16 POTHOLES IN HERE THERE THAT
44:18 WOULD JUST AS WELL AS THE CAR.
44:19 I DIDN'T GET ALL OF YOUR
44:21 QUESTION BUT I I.
44:25 YEAH I MEAN HOW DO YOU THINK
44:27 YOU CAN GET AN AMBULANCE TO THE
44:29 GROVE?
44:30 I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
44:33 I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF THE
44:35 QUESTION.
44:38 UH I I GUESS THAT YOU CAN YOU
44:40 GET A FIRE TRUCK THROUGH THE
44:41 GROVE IS MY QUESTION.
44:45 UM, YEAH.
44:46 YES.
44:46 I'VE SEEN IT.
44:47 YEAH.
44:49 UH, OKAY.
44:51 UM I, UH AND SO, UH, IF IF
44:59 PEOPLE HAVE SO EVEN ON THESE
45:02 MIXED UH, SORT OF GRAVEL
45:05 SURFACE ROADS THEY CAN SOME
45:07 PEOPLE CAN FILE A311 AND AND
45:11 THE CITY WILL COME OUT AND
45:13 PERHAPS FILL THOSE HOLES.
45:17 SO GROVE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT
45:18 OF A DIFFERENT UH YOU.
45:19 KNOW, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT
45:21 DIFFERENT.
45:21 BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I I GOT
45:23 THAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS
45:24 NOT ON GROVE HARDLY.
45:26 WELL, YOU KNOW ADELAIDE UH YOU
45:29 KNOW OTHER OTHER PLACES UM IS
45:32 THE RECOMMENDATION FOR JUST THE
45:34 POTHOLES TO TO FOLLOW TRAIL ON
45:36 ONE.
45:37 UM YEAH.
45:38 YEAH.
45:39 YOU KNOW.
45:40 WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, YOU
45:41 KNOW.
45:41 IT IS GOING TO GET CLOSED OUT
45:43 ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THAT IT'S A
45:45 PRIVATE WAY BUT IS RESPONSIBLE
45:46 FOR REPAIR.
45:47 BUT WHAT.
45:48 THAT DOES IS THE INSPECTOR
45:50 OR SUPERVISOR IN THE IN THE
45:51 DISTRICT.
45:52 WILL EVENTUALLY.
45:53 GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT UM AND
45:55 ASSESS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT
45:57 WE HAVE TO STEP IN AND REPAIR
45:58 FOR THE ABUTTERS SO THAT A FIRE
46:00 TRUCK CAN HAVE ACCESS IF THE
46:01 LADDER TRUCK CAN ACCESS THE
46:03 THE.
46:03 THE AREA?
46:07 UM, I GUESS ON THE ON THE UH
46:09 WHATEVER THE THE THE
46:10 IMPROVEMENT YOU KNOW, MAKING
46:12 THE PRIVATE PRIVATELY INTO A
46:13 PUBLIC WAY IS THERE'S IS THERE
46:16 ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY
46:18 MAKE THAT INTO A REAL PROGRAM
46:21 OR IS IT JUST THAT NO, YOU KNOW
46:23 ,VERY FEW PRIVATE WAYS WANT TO
46:25 ABSORB THE COST, UH, AND THAT
46:29 THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD TO.
46:33 TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS THAT
46:35 OURSELVES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
46:37 MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
46:40 UM UM.
46:43 SO SO IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.
46:44 UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN
46:46 FOUR STREETS IN THE PAST 15
46:47 YEARS.
46:47 I THINK WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES
46:49 IS NOT EVERYBODY LIVING ON THE
46:51 PRIVATE WAY WANTS IT TO HAPPEN.
46:52 LIKE I SAID SHARON STREET THEY
46:55 WANT IT THE WAY YOU KNOW MOST
46:56 OF THE PEOPLE THERE WANT IT THE
46:58 WAY IT IS.
46:59 UM.
46:59 YOU KNOW, IT CUTS TO THERE FOR
47:02 WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY THEY
47:04 MAYBE THEY FEAR THAT THEIR
47:05 TAXES WILL GO UP I DON'T KNOW I
47:07 CAN'T YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR WHEN
47:09 I USED TO WHEN I USED TO BE OUT
47:10 THERE ON THE ROAD LIKE THAT.
47:11 WOULD BE YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO
47:13 CAUSE FOLKS TO USE THE STREET
47:14 AS A CUT THROUGH.
47:15 WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE FLYING
47:16 THROUGH HERE.
47:17 OUR KIDS PLAY HERE, UM.
47:19 YOU KNOW SO.
47:20 SO I MEAN IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.
47:22 UM I THINK WHAT THE PROBLEM
47:24 LIES IN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO
47:26 BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET RIGHT
47:28 TO GET EVERYONE TO AGREE ON
47:30 ANYTHING REALLY.
47:30 BUT I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT
47:32 WHERE YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT
47:34 AFTER THE CITY COMES IN AND
47:36 DOES IT IT'S GOING TO BE
47:37 ASSESSED.
47:38 YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN
47:39 ASSESSMENT.
47:39 ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
47:41 SO UM SO.
47:42 YEAH AND IT JUST IN TERMS
47:43 OF THAT HOW DOES IT WORK?
47:45 IT'S ONLY I'M JUST SAYING TO
47:47 GET MORE THAN FOREST STREETS IN
47:50 15 YEARS TO PARTICIPATE NOT
47:51 THAT THE PROGRAM ISN'T ISN'T
47:52 WELL RUN UH, JUST YOU KNOW,
47:55 OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING
47:56 ADVANTAGE OF IT.
47:58 UM UH, YEAH.
48:01 SO WHAT IS THE PAYMENT PLAN
48:02 LIKE?
48:02 YOU JUST SEE IF IF IT COSTS $1
48:07 MILLION OF WORK ON THAT STREET,
48:09 WHO'S PAYING FOR IT AND HOW
48:11 DOES IT GET PAID OUT?
48:12 UM, SO IT WOULD BE AN
48:14 ASSESSMENT.
48:14 UM.
48:15 THAT'S THE THE THE.
48:17 BREADTH OF MY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT
48:19 I DON'T KNOW I, I HAVE NO IDEA
48:21 IF THEY WOULD ALLOW PAYMENT
48:22 PLANS OR IF IT'S IT'S JUST
48:24 ASSESSED TO THE TO THE PROPERTY
48:26 .
48:28 OKAY.
48:29 UH YEAH YOU GET IT IN ONE
48:31 TAX BILL THAT I'VE NEVER REALLY
48:33 UNDERSTOOD HOW THAT WORKS.
48:34 UM.
48:36 YEAH.
48:37 UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER.
48:38 DO I.
48:38 YEAH.
48:39 OKAY.
48:41 UH, OKAY.
48:41 WELL YEAH.
48:42 I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS
48:44 THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO
48:45 LIVES ON THESE PRIVATE WAYS YOU
48:47 DO OWN YOUR YOUR FRONTAGE UP TO
48:49 HALFWAY INTO THE PRIVATE WAY.
48:52 UM, AND YEAH, I'VE BEEN OUT
48:54 THERE SHOVELING, UH, YOU KNOW,
48:56 DURING THE SNOWSTORMS AND YOU
48:58 KNOW, UH, WE BOUGHT LIKE A SNOW
49:00 BLOWER, UH, AS YOU KNOW, OUR
49:03 HOUSE TO THE OTHER HOUSES WERE
49:04 RENTERS AND UM, IT WAS SORT
49:07 OF AN ENDLESS STRUGGLE.
49:08 SO I UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM IS
49:09 PROBABLY A.
49:10 LITTLE WAYS.
49:11 UM, UH, AND I YOU KNOW.
49:15 WE I ALSO GET A LOT.
49:17 OF.
49:17 PEOPLE WHO COME TO ME.
49:18 SAY I PAY TAXES.
49:19 YOU KNOW, WHY.
49:20 DOESN'T THE CITY FIX UP MY
49:21 PRIVATE WAY?
49:22 I MEAN, MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS.
49:23 I THINK IF ALL THE RULES ARE
49:25 BEING FOLLOWED LIKE THESE
49:26 HOUSES WOULDN'T EXIST AT LEAST
49:28 THE ONES THAT ADELAIDE SOMEBODY
49:29 JUST BUILT HOUSES BEHIND THEIR
49:33 PROPERTY.
49:33 UH, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S.
49:36 LIKE IT'S.
49:37 ALMOST LIKE GETTING SOMETHING.
49:38 FOR.
49:39 NOTHING IF YOU JUST CONVERT IT
49:41 INTO A PUBLIC WAY.
49:42 YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE.
49:43 THOSE YOU'RE SORT OF TAKING.
49:45 ADVANTAGE OF THE.
49:46 CITY ON.
49:47 ONE END AND THEN, YOU KNOW,
49:48 UH.
49:49 HOPING THE CITY PAYS FOR IT.
49:51 ON THE ON THE OTHER BUT UH
49:55 UM UH, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY.
49:57 I THINK I, I HAVE HEARD FROM
49:59 PEOPLE IN THE GROVE WHO WANT TO
50:00 SEE THOSE POTHOLES BEING.
50:01 FIXED AND MAYBE WE'LL DO SOME
50:02 MORE.
50:03 ORGANIZING AROUND THAT UH.
50:05 TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW.
50:06 IT.
50:07 IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET
50:08 THROUGH THERE HOPING YOU JUST.
50:10 IMPROVED IT ANYWAY.
50:11 SO, UH.
50:12 I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE WORK
50:13 THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
50:16 FILING THIS AND THANK YOU TO
50:17 THE CHAIR.
50:19 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WEBER.
50:21 UM, YEAH.
50:22 UH, A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I
50:23 HAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BY
50:25 MY COLLEAGUES, BUT.
50:26 I DO HAVE I WANT TO KIND
50:27 OF DRILL IN MORE TO OKAY.
50:30 IF WE.
50:31 DO WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD,
50:33 UM.
50:34 YOU KNOW WHAT IT.
50:34 WHAT.
50:35 IT MAY MEAN.
50:35 JUST LIKE THE REALITY
50:36 OF LIKE THE STATE LAW AND ALL
50:39 OF THAT, UM.
50:40 AND JUST LIKE THE LIKE THE
50:42 DOING DOING A.
50:43 STREET AND THE CITY SHARING THE
50:45 COST IS A NOBLE ENDEAVOR.
50:49 LIKE I 100%.
50:50 AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE.
50:53 HELPING RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS WE
50:54 CAN.
50:55 AND FIXING ROADS, UM, TO.
50:58 LIKE THE FULLEST EXTENT THAT
51:00 WE.
51:00 CAN BUT IN LIKE THERE ARE
51:03 THINGS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY.
51:04 HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
51:05 LIKE IN.
51:06 THE.
51:06 LONGER TERM DOES THAT
51:07 INVESTMENT MAKE.
51:09 SENSE IF FOR.
51:10 EXAMPLE WE DO JUST RESURFACING
51:12 AND THAT'S UP.
51:13 TO YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST.
51:15 ASSUMING THAT.
51:16 THAT IS UP TO 25% OF OF WHAT
51:19 NEEDS TO.
51:20 HAPPEN LIKE SHOULD WE
51:22 RESURFACE.
51:23 IF ULTIMATELY THAT.
51:24 DRAINAGE AND THIS HAS HAPPENED.
51:26 BEFORE EVEN JUST WITH NORMAL
51:27 WORK.
51:28 IF THAT DRAINAGE.
51:29 IS GOING TO.
51:30 GO INTO PEOPLE'S.
51:30 HOMES OR IF THAT WATER.
51:32 IS GOING TO BE.
51:33 CORROSIVE AND.
51:33 IT'S GOING.
51:34 TO BE.
51:35 UM, YOU KNOW, BACK TO.
51:36 SQUARE ONE AT THE END OF THE
51:38 DAY.
51:38 AND IN JUST.
51:39 A FEW YEARS OR A COUPLE OF.
51:41 DECADES BUT I THINK IT'S
51:42 ALREADY BEEN YOU KNOW, I HAD A
51:44 FEW TECHNICAL.
51:44 QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE WHAT IT
51:45 MEANS TO.
51:46 RESURFACE WITHOUT DOING
51:47 DRAINAGE AND.
51:48 UTILITY WORK AND UM, I THINK
51:50 THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BUT.
51:51 THE THE.
51:52 ADA COMPONENT OF THIS IS
51:53 SOMETHING THAT HASN'T REALLY.
51:54 BEEN BROUGHT UP.
51:55 SO UM, PERMANENT RESURFACING MY
51:59 UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT.
51:59 WOULD TRIGGER.
52:01 ADA ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
52:02 .
52:03 UM, THAT ROUTINE POTHOLE
52:07 MAINTENANCE DOES NOT AND SO.
52:08 THAT WOULD.
52:10 ADD ON COSTS TO.
52:12 THE CITY.
52:12 SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
52:13 OUT HOW WE WOULD DISTINGUISH
52:14 BETWEEN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND
52:16 PERMANENT ALTERATIONS THAT
52:18 WOULD.
52:18 TRIGGER ADA.
52:19 OBLIGATIONS AND WHO.
52:22 WHO WOULD BEAR THOSE COSTS.
52:24 UM AND I MAYBE IT'S NOT A
52:26 QUESTION FOR YOU, DAN.
52:27 BUT IT IS A QUESTION FOR FOR
52:29 LEGAL.
52:31 UM AND THEN.
52:31 WELL, I COULD YOU KNOW, IF IF
52:33 THE.
52:33 ABUTTERS WANTED TO RESURFACE
52:34 THEY CERTAINLY COULD THEY
52:36 WOULDN'T BE HELD UM TO THE ADA
52:40 ACCESSIBILITY UM COMPLIANCE IF
52:43 THEY JUST WANTED TO COME IN
52:43 AND, YOU KNOW, GET ONE STRIP
52:45 OF ASPHALT DOWN THE CENTER
52:46 OF THE YOU KNOW, THEY COULD DO
52:48 THAT BUT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY
52:50 AFFECT DRAINAGE.
52:51 UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME
52:53 THAT THEY WOULDN'T PAY FOR A
52:55 SURVEY.
52:56 TO DO.
52:57 THAT THAT THEY WOULD JUST
52:57 WANT TO KIND OF DO IT AND GET
52:58 IT DONE AGAIN.
52:59 YOU KNOW, EACH EACH PRIVATE
53:00 WEIGH IS DIFFERENT.
53:02 UM, AS FAR AS THE BETTERMENT
53:05 PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY
53:07 WERE TO COME IN AND DO IT AND
53:09 AND UM, DO THE ASSESSMENT YES.
53:12 THE STREET WOULD HAVE TO BE
53:14 FULLY YOU KNOW, FULLY PUBLIC
53:16 CITY SPECS, UM, ADA COMPLIANT
53:19 SIDEWALKS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND
53:21 THAT'S 53FT, YOU KNOW, SIDE TO
53:24 SIDE.
53:25 UM, A LOT OF THESE ALLEYS DON'T
53:28 HAVE THAT.
53:30 SO THERE'S.
53:30 A PROBLEM.
53:31 AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THAT
53:32 PESKY STATE LAW.
53:32 BUT UM, YOU KNOW.
53:35 YOU IT.
53:37 YEAH, THERE'S A LOT THERE.
53:38 BUT IF THE ABUTTERS.
53:40 WANTED TO COME IN AND JUST
53:41 RESURFACE.
53:41 IT.
53:41 THEY COULD DO THAT.
53:46 WITHOUT TRIGGERING WITHOUT
53:47 TRIGGERING THE 88, YOU KNOW THE
53:48 ADA COMPLIANT STUFF.
53:49 OKAY.
53:50 AND I DO HAVE UM.
53:52 I MEAN AND THEN YOU'VE ALREADY
53:53 GONE THROUGH THE EQUATION AND
53:55 WHAT IT.
53:55 WOULD MEAN.
53:55 UH.
53:56 IN TERMS OF.
53:57 UM PAYMENT ON THEIR BEHALF.
53:59 I HAVE HAD RESIDENTS IN EAST
54:01 BOSTON FOR.
54:02 GENEVA AND GENEVA STREET.
54:03 I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, UM,
54:05 REFUSE.
54:06 TO DO.
54:07 THE.
54:07 PROCESS BECAUSE.
54:07 THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY
54:08 WOULD NEED TO.
54:09 PAY MORE IN TAXES.
54:11 SO UM YEAH, THERE'S LIKE
54:12 THERE'S A.
54:13 BUNCH OF.
54:14 DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS AND
54:16 PERSPECTIVES.
54:16 BUT I'M I'M.
54:17 MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE LIKE
54:19 THE 25% THRESHOLD LIKE HOW
54:20 WOULD YOU ALL CALCULATE.
54:21 THAT LIKE.
54:22 WOULD.
54:23 IT BE.
54:23 BY SURFACE AREA LINEAR
54:24 FOOTAGE OR ANOTHER METRIC?
54:28 YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S A MOUNT
54:29 IT'S BIG RIGHT?
54:30 IT'S NOT SPECIFIC SO MAYBE IT'S
54:32 A MOUNT THE TOTAL COST UM I
54:35 DON'T I DON'T KNOW.
54:36 I WILL.
54:37 SAY THIS AS A.
54:38 PUBLIC AS A PRIVATE WAY UM
54:40 RESIDENT.
54:41 IF THE CITY WANTED TO COME AND
54:42 SAID HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
54:43 IT OVER AND FIX EVERYTHING AND
54:44 ADD SIDEWALKS, I WOULDN'T WANT
54:46 THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
54:47 AFFECT HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE
54:49 PARK UP IN THE IN THE IN THE
54:52 PRIVATE WAY.
54:53 SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S
54:54 ANOTHER KIND OF NUANCE TO THINK
54:56 ABOUT.
54:56 UM, AND AGAIN, PROBABLY ONE
54:58 OF THE REASONS THAT A LOT
54:59 OF FOLKS LIVING ON PRIVATE
55:01 WAVES DON'T.
55:01 YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DON'T WANT
55:03 ANYTHING DONE.
55:04 YEAH.
55:05 AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY ON
55:06 GENEVA STREET UM UH, THERE ARE
55:08 A COUPLE FAMILIES WHO ARE
55:10 SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT,
55:11 UM, THEIR PRIVATE WAY TO BE
55:13 TURNED INTO A PUBLIC STREET.
55:14 UM, OKAY.
55:15 BUT YOU'RE SAYING LIKE IF.
55:16 I THINK.
55:17 THIS IS JUST A CLARIFYING
55:18 POINT AND I APOLOGIZE.
55:19 THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY.
55:20 REDUNDANT AT THIS POINT.
55:21 BUT JUST FOR ME.
55:23 IF IF THEY.
55:23 WANTED TO COME.
55:24 IN THROUGH.
55:25 THE THE PICK.
55:26 PROCESS THE.
55:27 RESIDENTS AND JUST DO.
55:28 A LINE OF ASK BALL DOWN THE
55:29 STREET.
55:30 THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO
55:32 THROUGH THE ENTIRE BENEFIT
55:34 PROCESS WHICH IS ENSURING THAT
55:35 THERE'S DRAINAGE OR UTILITY OR.
55:37 ADA ACCESSIBLE ROOMS.
55:38 THEY COULD DO THAT.
55:39 FULLY ON THEIR OWN.
55:40 THEY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO
55:41 START THE PICK PROCESS.
55:42 YOU KNOW THEY'RE.
55:43 BASICALLY REPAIRING THEIR
55:44 PRIVATE PROPERTY HOWEVER REALLY
55:46 HOWEVER THEY WANT.
55:47 BUT LIKE THE CITY WOULDN'T BE.
55:48 COST SHARING IN THAT.
55:50 UH NO.
55:51 AND IF.
55:52 THEY DID WANT THE CITY TO
55:53 COST.
55:53 SHARE IT WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE
55:54 TO GO THROUGH THE.
55:55 PROCESS OKAY.
55:56 AND THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE
55:57 THEM TO TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
56:00 RIGMAROLE OF.
56:01 EVERYTHING I JUST MENTIONED.
56:01 CORRECT.
56:02 OKAY.
56:04 AND WELL YEAH.
56:05 I LOT.
56:06 TO THINK.
56:06 ABOUT I MEAN AGAIN THIS IS
56:07 A.
56:07 THIS IS A GOOD INTENTIONS I
56:08 JUST.
56:09 THINK LIKE THINKING THROUGH IT
56:10 OPERATIONALLY IT'S UM.
56:11 IT'S A.
56:12 LITTLE TOUGH AND SO ARE
56:13 THINKING ABOUT OPERATIONAL
56:14 FEASIBILITY OF ONE LAST
56:15 QUESTION.
56:17 UM DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER
56:18 OF HOW MANY PRIVATE WAYS
56:19 CURRENTLY RECEIVE CITY FUNDED
56:21 TEMPORARY REPAIRS?
56:22 AND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS
56:24 ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE
56:25 THE CITY'S.
56:26 ABILITY TO.
56:27 ADDRESS REOCCURRING POTHOLES?
56:31 UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT.
56:34 I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR
56:35 YOU.
56:35 UM.
56:38 THINKING NOW ABOUT HOW WE.
56:39 COULD GET THAT.
56:41 SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF THE
56:42 311 COMPLAINT COMES IN WE CLOSE
56:45 IT OUT AS A BUT AS OUR RESPONSE
56:48 OKAY AND THEN WE COULD OR WE WE
56:50 EITHER DO A DON'T REPAIR WHAT
56:52 WE THINK IS NECESSARY.
56:56 UM YEAH I'M TRYING TO THINK
56:57 OF HOW I CAN.
56:58 COULD COULD GET THAT NUMBER.
57:00 I DON'T THINK WE COULD RIGHT
57:01 NOW THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO
57:02 THINGS.
57:03 OKAY.
57:03 AND LET ME REPHRASE LIKE
57:04 THE.
57:04 SECOND PART.
57:05 OF THE QUESTION I THINK.
57:06 I'M I'M.
57:06 INTERESTED IN.
57:07 PRACTICALITY HERE.
57:08 LIKE IS THE.
57:09 PROPOSED FRAMEWORK SOMETHING
57:10 THAT.
57:10 PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE ABLE TO.
57:12 ADMINISTER OR.
57:14 THINKING THROUGH.
57:14 IF WE WERE.
57:15 TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE
57:16 WHAT.
57:16 AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.
57:17 RECOMMEND TO MAKE
57:19 IMPLEMENTATION.
57:19 MORE EFFECTIVE.
57:21 IN TERMS OF US JUST TAKING THEM
57:23 ALL OVER?
57:23 YEAH.
57:24 I THINK.
57:26 IT'S IT'S SO HUGE.
57:29 TO THINK ABOUT.
57:30 I REALLY I PROBABLY NEED SOME
57:32 TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.
57:33 IT WOULD KIND OF BE TAKEN OUT
57:34 OF HIGHWAY'S HANDS.
57:35 IT WOULD GO RIGHT THROUGH THE
57:37 PICK AND ENGINEERING UM IT'S
57:40 YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF WORK IN
57:42 SMALL TIGHT SPACES.
57:44 UM.
57:45 I IMAGINE I WOULDN'T EVEN
57:47 GUESS TO GIVE YOU A IT WOULD BE
57:49 HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
57:50 OF DOLLARS.
57:50 OKAY?
57:51 MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLION
57:52 .
57:53 YOU KNOW.
57:53 IT WOULD BE A LOT.
57:55 YEAH.
57:55 AND I MEAN WE ARE I WOULD
57:57 LOVE TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST
57:58 MAKING A FORMAL.
57:59 REQUEST THAT WE CAN FOLLOW.
58:00 UP THROUGH IG.
58:01 ARE LIKE GETTING ANY SORT OF.
58:03 AND I WAS YOU KNOW ALSO TO
58:05 COUNCIL FITZGERALD'S POINT
58:06 LIKE.
58:07 WHATEVER WE CAN.
58:09 USE ESPECIALLY LIKE A.
58:10 DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WHAT THIS MAY.
58:12 COST WOULD.
58:13 BE HELPFUL FOR.
58:13 US AS.
58:14 WE MOVE FORWARD AS WE
58:15 CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL.
58:16 SO JUST A BALLPARK.
58:19 NUMBER WOULD BE HELPFUL TO.
58:20 US PEOPLE MUCH SMARTER THAN I
58:21 COULD PROBABLY TAKE THE UH, THE
58:23 MILEAGE AND JUST ADD THE
58:25 AVERAGE COST ON ON A YOU KNOW
58:27 TO TO RECONSTRUCT A PRIVATE A.
58:28 PUBLIC WAY.
58:29 YEAH THAT WOULD BE A GOOD.
58:31 START KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING
58:32 TO BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT, YOU.
58:34 KNOW RIGHT.
58:35 BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE.
58:36 THAT THEY'RE SET UP.
58:38 OKAY I WOULD APPRECIATE.
58:39 THAT THAT WOULD BE.
58:40 HELPFUL AS WE.
58:41 CONSIDER YOU KNOW UM THIS.
58:42 AGAIN THIS PROPOSAL UM AND
58:45 WHAT.
58:45 WE WOULD NEED IN.
58:46 TERMS OF STAFFING CAPACITY TO
58:48 EVEN GET THIS DONE BUT UM.
58:51 THAT'S IT FOR ME AND I
58:52 APOLOGIZE COUNCIL.
58:52 WELL, I'M JUST SEEING YOUR HAND
58:53 UP NOW.
58:54 WE'LL GO.
58:54 TO SECOND ROUND
58:55 OF QUESTIONING.
58:56 UM, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY.
58:57 INFORMATION THAT.
58:58 WOULD.
58:58 BE PERTINENT.
58:58 AS CONVERSATION PLEASE FEEL
58:59 FREE TO SHARE.
59:00 UH THANK YOU CHAIR.
59:01 AND JUST FOR.
59:03 FLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT
59:05 THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR
59:08 TO WHAT LIKE
59:09 SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED
59:12 IS THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY
59:14 AUTOMATICALLY FILL POTHOLES ON
59:16 PRIVATE WINGS.
59:20 SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST
59:22 SAYING THAT THEY WILL
59:23 AUTOMATICALLY FILL THE
59:26 POTHOLES.
59:28 AND CURRENTLY UNDER I'M SURE
59:31 THEY DO IT IN PRACTICE UNDER
59:33 THE CITY CODE THEY.
59:36 ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT
59:41 SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE
59:42 CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY
59:45 TO USE ASPHALT.
59:47 SO WE JUST ASKING THEM TO
59:51 AUTOMATICALLY UH FILL THE
59:54 POTHOLES AND GIVE THE GIVE THEM
59:56 IT UNDER THE CITY CODE THE
59:58 ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT BUT THIS
1:00:00 ORDINANCE IS NOT ASKING UM, US
1:00:02 TO TAKE IT OVER THE WHOLE
1:00:05 STREET.
1:00:05 IT JUST GIVES YOU KNOW, THE
1:00:07 PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH,
1:00:09 THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK TO USE
1:00:12 ASPHALT.
1:00:12 UM, AND INSTEAD OF CLOSING IT
1:00:14 OUT, UH, ONCE THEY GET IT
1:00:16 AUTOMATICALLY CLOSING THAT ONCE
1:00:17 THEY GET IT AND THEN GOING
1:00:19 THROUGH THIS ASSESSMENT WHETHER
1:00:21 OR NOT THEY SHOULD FILL THE
1:00:24 POTHOLE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT
1:00:25 THEY JUST SHOULD FILL THE
1:00:26 POTHOLE.
1:00:27 RIGHT.
1:00:28 SO I.
1:00:29 UNDERSTAND THAT JUST REALLY
1:00:29 QUICK IF I.
1:00:30 CAN UM REPLY.
1:00:32 SO IT ALSO.
1:00:33 REQUIRES US FOR.
1:00:34 THE.
1:00:35 CITY TO PROVIDE A COST SHARE.
1:00:36 AND I THINK MY POINT IN WHICH I
1:00:38 DIDN'T.
1:00:38 ARTICULATE WELL IS THAT.
1:00:39 IF WE ARE GOING TO BEAR THE
1:00:42 COST.
1:00:43 OF THIS IS IT HOW.
1:00:46 ARE WE ACTUALLY MAXIMIZING OUR
1:00:48 INVESTMENT INTO THE.
1:00:49 STREET IF IT IS JUST A BAND-AID
1:00:51 TO.
1:00:51 FILL THE.
1:00:52 POTHOLE WITH ASPHALT.
1:00:53 LIKE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BEHOOVE
1:00:55 US TO THINK.
1:00:57 TO.
1:00:57 RESURFACE THE STREET BECAUSE
1:00:58 THERE.
1:00:58 ARE UNDERLYING ISSUES ANYWAY AS
1:01:01 TO.
1:01:01 WHY THERE'S POTHOLES THERE.
1:01:03 SO I MEAN LIKE FOR ME I
1:01:05 WOULDN'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS
1:01:07 TO.
1:01:08 CONTINUOUSLY GO INTO.
1:01:10 BAND-AIDS RATHER THAN.
1:01:12 THINKING.
1:01:12 ABOUT MORE HOLISTICALLY.
1:01:13 HOW WE.
1:01:13 CAN BETTER THE STREET IN ITS
1:01:16 ENTIRETY.
1:01:17 UM, SO THAT I MEAN THAT'S JUST.
1:01:19 WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS.
1:01:22 YEAH, I'LL I'LL STOP IT THERE.
1:01:24 YEAH.
1:01:24 NO AND.
1:01:25 I I HEAR THAT AND THEN I GUESS
1:01:28 THAT'S.
1:01:29 DEFINITELY STUFF THAT WE SHOULD
1:01:31 DISCUSS IN THE IN THE WORKING
1:01:32 SESSION.
1:01:34 UM ON THEN THAT I GUESS THAT
1:01:36 AND GOES INTO THE WHOLE COST
1:01:38 RIGHT THE WHOLE COST AND THEN
1:01:40 WHAT GETS TRIGGERED ONCE YOU
1:01:42 MOVE FROM A BAND-AID SOLUTION
1:01:44 TO A UM A MORE HOLISTIC
1:01:46 APPROACH?
1:01:47 UM.
1:01:48 BUT MY UNDERSTANDING AND I
1:01:51 DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR
1:01:53 FROM THE MAYOR ON THIS AND I
1:01:56 JUST DID LIKE A QUICK RESEARCH
1:01:57 ONLINE IS THAT WE HAD THE
1:02:00 ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT
1:02:01 TEMPORARY FIXES ARE ON OUR
1:02:03 STREETS, UM, DUE TO STATE LAW
1:02:06 AND I'VE SEEN UM OTHER TOWNS
1:02:12 SEEN A RESURFACING COULD BE FOR
1:02:14 THEY HAVE USED THAT AS A
1:02:16 TEMPORARY FIX THE RESURFACING
1:02:20 AS A TEMPORARY FIX.
1:02:24 UM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM
1:02:29 FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT
1:02:32 ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM
1:02:35 AND.
1:02:38 I UNDER STATE LAW IT SOUNDS
1:02:41 LIKE WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, THE
1:02:42 DRAINAGE ISSUE.
1:02:45 YEAH.
1:02:47 IT JUST THAT THAT THAT'S A LOT
1:02:48 THAT'S A LOT IF WE'RE MOVING
1:02:50 FORWARD TO DEFINING RESURFACING
1:02:52 AS A TEMPORARY FIX THAT THEN WE
1:02:55 GET INTO WE CAN'T JUST SEPARATE
1:02:58 RESURFACING FROM DRAINAGE OR
1:03:01 ADA COMPLIANCE OR LIKE SIDEWALK
1:03:03 WIDTH AND ALL OF THAT UNLESS
1:03:05 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE
1:03:06 OWNERS WANT TO PRIVATELY DO
1:03:07 THEMSELVES RIGHT.
1:03:08 LIKE WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT
1:03:10 AS LIKE THE ENTIRETY OF OF THE
1:03:12 PROCESS.
1:03:13 SO THEN DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE
1:03:16 IF WE'RE DEFINING RESURFACING
1:03:18 AS A TEMPORARY FIX?
1:03:20 UM AND I'M ALSO SAYING THAT
1:03:22 YEAH AS LIKE WE HAVE THE
1:03:24 ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT A
1:03:26 TEMPORARY FIX IS.
1:03:28 RIGHT.
1:03:28 SO I'M JUST SAYING LIKE.
1:03:29 THAT IS AN OPTION UNDER STATE
1:03:30 LAW.
1:03:31 I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT
1:03:33 THERE SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE
1:03:35 DO DIVE INTO THE WORK IN
1:03:36 SESSION, UH, WE KNOW WHAT OUR
1:03:38 OPTIONS ARE.
1:03:39 OKAY.
1:03:40 AND, UH, LIKE A PERMANENT SO
1:03:42 I DON'T KNOW.
1:03:43 I THINK IT'S GETTING INTO THE
1:03:46 GRAY AREA HERE WHERE IF WE'RE
1:03:49 RESURFACING AND BUILDING
1:03:51 SIDEWALKS OUT AND THEN GOING
1:03:53 UNDERGROUND AND NEEDING TO MAKE
1:03:54 SURE THAT UTILITIES ARE UP TO
1:03:56 CODE WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE
1:03:58 AND CAN THAT STILL BE
1:03:59 CONSIDERED TEMPORARY.
1:04:03 ?
1:04:03 RIGHT.
1:04:04 AND I'M NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING
1:04:06 TO DO IS JUST TO GET UM, YOU
1:04:08 KNOW, REAL TEMPORARY FIXES, UM.
1:04:12 TO THESE.
1:04:13 PRIVATE WAYS KNOWING THAT, YOU
1:04:15 KNOW, THE COST ON BRINGING IT
1:04:17 BRING IT UP TO CODE.
1:04:19 UH.
1:04:20 CAN BE A LARGE AMOUNT FOR.
1:04:22 SOME OF THESE PRIVATE WAYS.
1:04:23 HAVE YOU KNOW MORE HOMES ON IT
1:04:26 ?
1:04:27 RIGHT?
1:04:28 UM, SO IT COULD BE VERY COSTLY
1:04:30 .
1:04:30 I WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND
1:04:32 YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 15.
1:04:35 HOMES AND I THINK IT WAS UP
1:04:36 CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES.
1:04:37 FOR A PROPERTY OWNER.
1:04:39 BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE JUST TRY
1:04:41 TO FIND A WAY.
1:04:41 THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO.
1:04:42 JUST DO A TEMPORARY FIX, GIVE
1:04:45 THE CITY THE ABILITY TO USE
1:04:47 ASPHALT.
1:04:48 UM, BUT I DO HEAR.
1:04:51 UM, THE.
1:04:52 CONCERNS AROUND, UM, YOU
1:04:55 KNOW, TEMPORARY BAND-AID BUT
1:04:56 THOSE BAND-AIDS AND THOSE
1:04:57 PLACES THAT HAVE HAD MINIMAL
1:05:00 REPAIRS THEY THEY DO GO A LONG
1:05:02 WAY.
1:05:03 THEY DO.
1:05:04 GO A LONG WAY AND AND
1:05:05 OFTENTIMES WHAT I'VE WHAT I'VE
1:05:08 HEARD IS THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW,
1:05:11 IT COULD BE UH, A UM A OVERAGE
1:05:16 OR EXTRA SUPPLY OF ASPHALT, UM.
1:05:19 IN THE CITY.
1:05:20 SO I THINK THAT IT DOES GIVES
1:05:22 US THE.
1:05:22 ABILITY AND MAYBE THAT'S HOW
1:05:24 THE ASSESSMENT HAPPENS.
1:05:25 BUT JUST TRYING TO GIVE US THAT
1:05:27 FLEXIBILITY.
1:05:28 ON REPAIRING.
1:05:28 THESE UM, TYPE OF WAYS.
1:05:31 IS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS
1:05:33 ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE.
1:05:35 UH.
1:05:36 MY MY MY LAST QUESTION.
1:05:38 UM, IS AROUND.
1:05:43 HOW MANY HOW MANY AND YOU MIGHT
1:05:46 HAVE NOTICED.
1:05:47 MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR
1:05:48 TODD.
1:05:48 HOW MANY.
1:05:50 STREETS HAVE.
1:05:51 GONE THROUGH THE PICK.
1:05:52 PROCESS AND THEN ONCE.
1:05:54 THEY REALIZE.
1:05:55 HOW MUCH THE.
1:05:56 COST IS YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDED.
1:05:58 THEY NO LONGER.
1:05:59 WANT TO PURSUE.
1:06:00 DO YOU DO YOU.
1:06:01 KNOW THAT I.
1:06:02 KNOW OF ONE SHARON STREET?
1:06:04 OKAY.
1:06:05 UM.
1:06:06 WE DIDN'T DISCUSS.
1:06:07 STREETS THAT DIDN'T.
1:06:09 GO THROUGH.
1:06:09 UM, I'M SURE TODD CAN GET YOU
1:06:11 THAT INFO.
1:06:12 YEAH.
1:06:12 OKAY.
1:06:13 YEAH.
1:06:14 THAT'S AND AND AND DO YOU KNOW,
1:06:16 LIKE A RANGE OF WHAT THESE
1:06:21 COSTS WILL CONVERT CONVERTING
1:06:22 AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT
1:06:23 CONVERTING THIS IS ABOUT
1:06:24 TEMPORARY.
1:06:25 FIXES BUT THIS IS JUST JUST
1:06:27 FOR.
1:06:28 MY CURIOSITY.
1:06:30 ARE YOU TALKING LIKE TO TO GO
1:06:32 THROUGH THE PROCESS.
1:06:33 IN THE ADA.
1:06:34 COMPLIANT AND ALL THAT STUFF?
1:06:35 WELL I'D BE TAKING A BUT I'D BE
1:06:37 TAKING A WILD GUESS.
1:06:40 UM YOU KNOW SO IT WOULD IT
1:06:43 WOULD DEPEND ON THE STREET.
1:06:43 IT WOULD DEPEND.
1:06:44 RIGHT?
1:06:44 YEAH.
1:06:45 YEAH DEFINITELY WOULD BE
1:06:47 DIFFERENT.
1:06:47 YEAH.
1:06:48 WHAT'S EXISTING IF THERE'S IF
1:06:50 THERE'S WATER AND SEWER
1:06:51 CALCULATIONS AT THIS PRIVATE
1:06:52 GAUGE.
1:06:53 RIGHT NOW AND I GET.
1:06:55 IT I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU A
1:06:57 NUMBER BUT DON'T HOLD IT, YOU
1:06:58 KNOW?
1:06:59 YEAH.
1:06:59 YEAH, I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.
1:07:01 THE ONE PRIVATE WAY.
1:07:03 PROCESS I WENT THROUGH, UH, IT
1:07:06 WAS ACTUALLY A NEW DEVELOPMENT
1:07:09 .
1:07:09 THEY WERE ALL NEW HOMES
1:07:10 PROBABLY NO LESS THAN TEN YEARS
1:07:11 OLD.
1:07:12 UH, ON A NEW STREET.
1:07:15 UM.
1:07:15 AND TO.
1:07:16 CONVERT THAT PRIVATE WAY WITH.
1:07:18 YOU WHICH WAS A NEW STREET
1:07:19 OVER TO A PUBLIC WAY.
1:07:21 UH, THAT THAT COST.
1:07:23 RESIDENT.
1:07:23 UH.
1:07:24 UP TO SIX FIGURES ON A
1:07:26 STREET THAT WAS ONLY TEN YEARS
1:07:27 OLD.
1:07:27 OKAY, JUST IMAGINE ON ALL THE
1:07:29 STREET.
1:07:30 UM, BUT, UM, SUPERINTENDING THE
1:07:32 DATE.
1:07:34 OH, MY LAST QUESTION.
1:07:35 WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING THE
1:07:38 POTHOLES, WOULD.
1:07:38 YOU NEED.
1:07:40 ADDITIONAL, UM, EMPLOYEES OR
1:07:44 WOULD THAT BE.
1:07:45 AN ADDITIONAL COST?
1:07:46 UM, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT YOUR
1:07:49 ABILITY.
1:07:49 TO.
1:07:50 UM, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT JUST
1:07:53 THE.
1:07:53 FILLING OF THE POTHOLES?
1:07:55 I MEAN, SURE, THERE'S MAN HOURS
1:07:56 DEVOTED TO IT.
1:07:57 WE'RE DOING IT NOW IN CERTAIN
1:08:00 CASES.
1:08:00 UM, WE ARE.
1:08:02 BELOW STAFFING LEVEL.
1:08:04 UM, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFFING YOU
1:08:05 KNOW, WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS,
1:08:06 MANY OPEN POSITIONS THAT I
1:08:07 WOULD LOVE TO GET FILLED.
1:08:09 UM, NO, I MEAN WE'RE DOING IT
1:08:12 NOW.
1:08:12 YEAH.
1:08:12 THERE'S A THERE'S A MAN OUR
1:08:14 COST AND MATERIAL COST, YOU
1:08:17 KNOW, WHICH IS RELATIVELY SMALL
1:08:19 WHEN COMPARED TO RECONSTRUCTION
1:08:20 .
1:08:22 ALL RIGHT.
1:08:23 WELL THANK YOU SUPERINTENDENT.
1:08:25 YOU'RE WELCOME.
1:08:31 SORRY I WAS MUTED.
1:08:34 UM OKAY.
1:08:35 UH, THIS WAS THIS WAS A GREAT
1:08:36 CONVERSATION.
1:08:37 I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE'S
1:08:39 MORE TO CONSIDER.
1:08:45 UM THERE'S JUST YEAH THERE'S A
1:08:47 LOT HERE.
1:08:48 UM, AND I KNOW IT IS JUST
1:08:49 TRYING TO SEEK A TEMPORARY FIX
1:08:51 .
1:08:51 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A
1:08:52 BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU
1:08:54 KNOW, MAXIMIZING CITY DOLLARS
1:08:56 AND, UM, WHAT MAY WHAT MAY MAKE
1:09:00 SENSE FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OR
1:09:02 EVEN ON AN INDIVIDUAL STREET.
1:09:04 UM, AND I WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO
1:09:06 IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE THIS
1:09:07 FORWARD JUST THINKING THROUGH
1:09:08 IT, WE'D HAVE TO SET UP MAYBE A
1:09:11 SEPARATE TRACK WITHIN THE PARK
1:09:14 TO DO THIS WHERE IF IT'S NOT
1:09:15 THE ENTIRE BETTERMENT PROCESS
1:09:18 AND IT'S JUST RESURFACING.
1:09:21 WELL ACTUALLY NO I I SAY THAT
1:09:22 OUT LOUD NOW OR IF THEY JUST
1:09:23 WANT TO DO THE TEMPORARY FIX.
1:09:25 UM, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO MAYBE
1:09:28 TODD MY OR UM, I FORGOT HER
1:09:31 NAME.
1:09:32 I KNOW SHE HAS GLASSES.
1:09:32 AMY CALL ME.
1:09:34 YEAH.
1:09:34 AMY ABOUT WHAT THEIR PROCESS
1:09:36 LOOKS LIKE AND IF THERE WOULD
1:09:37 NEED TO BE A SEPARATE TRACK FOR
1:09:39 SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
1:09:41 UM, OKAY.
1:09:42 WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
1:09:44 COLLEAGUES ON.
1:09:45 WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
1:09:47 I'LL WHILE WE SET UP FOLKS WHO
1:09:49 HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC
1:09:50 TESTIMONY, MAYBE WE CAN TEE UP
1:09:51 THE VIDEOS AND, UM, AND GO FROM
1:09:55 THERE.
1:09:55 I THINK WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC
1:09:58 TESTIMONY, UM, VIDEOS THAT WE
1:10:00 NEED TO WEIGH.
1:10:03 THERE WE GO.
1:10:04 THANK YOU SO MUCH.
1:10:08 HI.
1:10:09 MY NAME IS DOUG WOODHOUSE.
1:10:10 I'M A RESIDENT OF BOSTON
1:10:12 ROSLINDALE.
1:10:12 I ALSO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY.
1:10:15 I JUST WANT TO, UH, SPEAK IN
1:10:17 SUPPORT OF THE, UM,
1:10:19 COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND
1:10:21 TO THANK HIM AND ALSO
1:10:23 COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR
1:10:23 CO-SPONSORING IT.
1:10:25 UH, OUR ROAD IS IN HORRIBLE
1:10:27 DISREPAIR.
1:10:28 UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO MY WIFE
1:10:29 AND I PAID A PAVING COMPANY TO
1:10:31 FIX UP THE POTHOLES IN FRONT
1:10:32 OF OUR HOUSE WHICH THEY DID AND
1:10:35 WHICH IS NOW BACK TO BE IN
1:10:36 HORRIBLE SHAPE.
1:10:38 UM, THIS IS BECAUSE THE
1:10:39 STRUCTURE HERE IS PARTICULARLY
1:10:40 DANGEROUS IN THE WINTER WHEN
1:10:41 THE SNOW MELTS, UM AND THEN
1:10:43 FREEZES AGAIN JUST BECOMES ALL
1:10:45 ICE.
1:10:45 UH, WE HAD SEVERAL DAYS WHERE
1:10:47 THE POST OFFICE DIDN'T DELIVER
1:10:49 MAIL FOR US BECAUSE THEY SAID
1:10:50 IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE,
1:10:52 UH, MAIL CARRIERS TO WALK DOWN
1:10:53 OUR STREET.
1:10:54 UM, UH, THERE ARE ELDERLY
1:10:58 PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WHO USED
1:10:59 TO RIDE.
1:11:00 THERE ARE, UH, CHILDREN HERE
1:11:02 WHO USE, UH, DOOR TO DOOR BUS
1:11:04 SERVICE.
1:11:05 UM, BUS HAS HAD TO COME DOWN
1:11:07 THIS ROAD.
1:11:08 I WORRY THAT AT SOME POINT, UH
1:11:10 ,TRASH TRUCKS WON'T BE ABLE TO
1:11:11 COME DOWN THIS ROAD OR, UM, FOR
1:11:14 RECYCLING OR ANY OF THAT.
1:11:16 UH, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO MY
1:11:19 NEIGHBORS FINANCE OF THIS, BUT
1:11:21 I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE I
1:11:23 DON'T THINK OUR STREET CAN
1:11:26 MAINTAIN, UH, THIS ROAD ON OUR
1:11:29 OWN.
1:11:29 I WOULD REALLY LIKE IF THE CITY
1:11:31 OF BOSTON COULD HELP US WITH
1:11:32 THESE.
1:11:32 ANOTHER GIANT POTHOLE.
1:11:34 I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF
1:11:36 BOSTON WERE ABLE TO HELP US
1:11:37 KIND OF MAINTAIN THE
1:11:39 INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.
1:11:40 UM, ANYHOW, THIS WHOLE THIS
1:11:43 WHOLE ROAD IS JUST, UH, REALLY
1:11:46 BAD.
1:11:46 IT'S RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT JUST
1:11:48 RAINED.
1:11:48 YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HOW DEEP
1:11:49 THEY ARE.
1:11:50 BUT THAT BIG ONE AND THAT ONE
1:11:51 IS INCREDIBLY DEEP.
1:11:53 UM, WE CAN'T DRIVE IF YOU HAVE
1:11:56 A, UH, LIKE A SUV OR A CRV OR
1:11:59 ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN GET
1:12:00 DOWN THIS WAY.
1:12:00 BUT IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER CAR
1:12:02 THAN THAT IT SCRAPES THE BOTTOM
1:12:03 .
1:12:04 UM I CAN'T I COULD TELL YOU
1:12:07 ACTUALLY CAUSE I SAVE ALL THE
1:12:08 RECEIPTS BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THE
1:12:10 AMOUNT OF TIMES I'VE HAD TO,
1:12:12 UH, REPLACED MY TIRES BECAUSE
1:12:14 THEY'VE GOTTEN DAMAGE ON THIS
1:12:15 ROAD.
1:12:16 UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY IT'S
1:12:18 MONEY THAT I CAN'T BE PUTTING
1:12:19 TOWARDS MAINTAINING THE ROADS.
1:12:20 I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY
1:12:22 CAR ROLLING.
1:12:24 SO ANYHOW, I JUST WANTED TO
1:12:25 GIVE YOU A A QUICK TOUR OVER MY
1:12:27 SHOULDER OF OUR ROAD AND, UH, I
1:12:30 JUST HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL,
1:12:33 UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVE
1:12:35 COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND
1:12:37 THAT, UH, SOME MAINTENANCE
1:12:38 COULD USING ASPHALT COULD BE
1:12:39 DONE ON OUR ON OUR STREET
1:12:41 BECAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS
1:12:42 IT AND WE REALLY CAN'T UM I
1:12:46 REALLY DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT
1:12:48 WITHOUT YOUR HELP.
1:12:49 ALL RIGHT.
1:12:49 THANKS SO MUCH.
1:12:51 HI EVERYONE.
1:12:52 MY NAME IS FAMED LUMLEY.
1:12:53 MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO
1:12:55 BOSTON A YEAR AND A HALF AGO
1:12:57 AND WE'RE RESIDENTS
1:12:59 OF DORCHESTER LIVING ON A
1:13:00 PRIVATE WAY.
1:13:00 I'M SUBMITTING THIS VIDEO IN
1:13:03 SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED
1:13:04 ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATELY
1:13:06 POTHOLES TO INCLUDE ASPHALT AS
1:13:08 ONE OF THE REPAIR METHODS ON
1:13:10 PRIVATE WAYS.
1:13:11 WHILE I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY
1:13:13 SHOULD BE RESURFACING AND
1:13:15 COMPLETELY REPLACING THESE
1:13:17 PRIVATE WAVES THAT ARE IN
1:13:19 COMPLETE DISREPAIR, I DO
1:13:20 BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED
1:13:22 ORDINANCE IS A STEP IN THE
1:13:24 RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKING SURE
1:13:25 THAT PRIVATE WAYS ARE SAFE TO
1:13:28 TRAVEL ON.
1:13:29 AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PHOTOS
1:13:31 THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE RIGHT
1:13:33 NOW, THE PRIVATE WAY ON WHICH
1:13:35 WE LIVE WAS IN MAJOR DISREPAIR
1:13:37 UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE
1:13:39 POTHOLES FILLED ON THE STREET.
1:13:41 UM IT WAS INCREDIBLY UNSAFE.
1:13:43 THERE WERE PEOPLE TRIPPING ON
1:13:45 THE HOLES BECAUSE OF HOW DEEP
1:13:47 THEY HAD BECOME, AND IT LOOKS
1:13:49 LIKE THEY WERE IN DISREPAIR FOR
1:13:50 A NUMBER OF YEARS.
1:13:51 UM, EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED IN
1:13:53 THERE WAS STANDING WATER IN
1:13:56 EVERY SINGLE POTHOLE BECAUSE
1:13:57 OF HOW DEEP THEY WERE EVERY
1:13:58 SINGLE TIME IT RAINED AND THE
1:14:02 VEHICLES ON OUR STREET WOULD BE
1:14:04 TRYING TO DODGE THE NUMBER
1:14:07 OF POTHOLES ON THE STREET
1:14:08 BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF GETTING
1:14:11 THE TIRES DAMAGED.
1:14:13 I SUPPORT THE ADDITION
1:14:15 OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES
1:14:16 OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED
1:14:17 TO REPAIR POTHOLES ON PRIVATE
1:14:19 WAYS BECAUSE THE ASPHALT
1:14:21 PROVIDES DURABILITY UNDER HEAVY
1:14:24 TRAFFIC AND WEATHER CONDITIONS.
1:14:26 I BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION
1:14:27 OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES
1:14:29 OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED
1:14:31 TO REPAIR POTHOLES WILL ADDRESS
1:14:33 THE NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT I
1:14:35 RAISED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS
1:14:36 VIDEO WHICH TO RECAP AGAIN ARE
1:14:39 SAFETY ISSUES THAT I HAD PUBLIC
1:14:40 HEALTH CONCERNS WITH STANDING
1:14:42 WATER ISSUES AND THE POTENTIAL
1:14:45 DAMAGE TO CARS BECAUSE OF HOW
1:14:47 DEEP POTHOLES HAVE BECOME ON A
1:14:49 NUMBER OF PRIVATE WAYS.
1:14:51 FRANKLY, I NEVER THOUGHT I
1:14:52 WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO'S MAKING A
1:14:54 VIDEO ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE
1:14:56 OF MATERIALS TO BE USED TO
1:14:57 REPAIR POTHOLES, BUT HERE WE
1:14:59 ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY
1:15:00 THOUGH MY HUSBAND AND I ARE
1:15:02 TAXPAYERS JUST LIKE ALL OF THE
1:15:04 PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON OUR STREET
1:15:06 AND WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT OUR
1:15:09 TAXPAYER DOLLARS CAN GO TOWARDS
1:15:10 THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE
1:15:12 OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE WE USE OUR
1:15:16 STREETS.
1:15:16 BUT SO DO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE
1:15:18 ON OUR STREETS.
1:15:19 AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS
1:15:21 ORDINANCE PASSES AND WE CAN
1:15:23 TAKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT
1:15:24 DIRECTION.
1:15:25 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME
1:15:26 AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING
1:15:27 ME OUT.
1:15:31 GREAT.
1:15:32 THANK YOU TO THOSE RESIDENTS
1:15:33 FOR THEIR VIDEOS.
1:15:34 UM NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC
1:15:35 TESTIMONY.
1:15:36 I THINK I WILL JUST TAKE A JUST
1:15:38 A QUICK MINUTE BECAUSE I WOULD
1:15:39 LOVE TO GET THESE QUESTIONS ON
1:15:40 THE RECORD AND THEN MAKE SURE
1:15:41 THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION
1:15:42 MOVING FORWARD.
1:15:43 UM, SO UM, JUST UH TO
1:15:46 SUPERINTENDENT NE IF IT'S OKAY
1:15:47 IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE
1:15:48 QUESTIONS NOW BUT I WOULD LOVE
1:15:50 LIKE A FOLLOW UP FROM YOU OR
1:15:51 YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT JUST
1:15:53 THINKING ABOUT THE TEMPORARY
1:15:54 FIXES.
1:15:55 UM, ON AVERAGE HOW LONG DOES IT
1:15:57 TAKE FOR ASPHALT IN PARTICULAR
1:15:59 TO DEGRADE IF UTILIZE TO FILL
1:16:02 POTHOLES AND THEN HOW?
1:16:06 THE SECOND QUESTION IS HOW MUCH
1:16:07 WOULD IT COST WITH UM INITIAL
1:16:11 REPAIRS IF WE WOULD IF WE WERE
1:16:14 TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE
1:16:15 ACROSS THE CITY AND THEN YEAR
1:16:18 OVER YEAR WHAT THAT ANNUAL
1:16:21 MAINTENANCE COST IS.
1:16:24 WELL I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST ONE.
1:16:26 I MEAN THE SECOND ONE FIRST.
1:16:27 YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD IF
1:16:28 WE HAVE A SNAP OUR FINGERS AND
1:16:31 MAGICALLY JUST RECONSTRUCT ALL
1:16:32 THE PRIVATE PRIVATE WAYS AND
1:16:34 THEY HAD YOU KNOW, THEY WERE
1:16:36 COMPLIANT AND THEY HAD ENOUGH
1:16:37 SPACE UM, WE CAN PROBABLY GET
1:16:40 YOU A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, BASED
1:16:42 ON THE MILEAGE.
1:16:43 UM, YOU KNOW, AND MULTIPLY YOU
1:16:46 KNOW, MULTIPLY THAT BY WHAT
1:16:47 WE'RE PAYING ON PUBLIC STREETS
1:16:49 .
1:16:49 UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY
1:16:51 DO THAT.
1:16:53 UM, AS FAR AS THE FIRST
1:16:55 QUESTION FOR, UM, HOW LONG
1:16:58 OF IF ASKED WHAT WAS USED FOR A
1:16:59 POTHOLE PATCH.
1:17:00 SO WE ARE USING ASPHALT NOW TO
1:17:04 PATCH PRIVATE WAYS IF THEY'RE
1:17:06 IF THE EXISTING CONDITION IS
1:17:08 ASPHALT.
1:17:08 UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, THAT
1:17:12 MIGHT BE ANOTHER RULE THAT I'VE
1:17:13 BEEN BREAKING FOR YEARS.
1:17:15 UM, BUT WE HAVE WE DO DO THAT.
1:17:18 UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE
1:17:21 PERFECT WORLD IF WE WERE TO
1:17:23 PATCH A HOLE WITH ASPHALT AND
1:17:24 THERE WERE NO UNDERLYING
1:17:26 CONDITIONS.
1:17:26 RIGHT.
1:17:27 SO NO WATER RUNNING?
1:17:28 NO.
1:17:29 YOU KNOW.
1:17:29 UM, SOIL UNDERNEATH DEGRADING.
1:17:32 IN 20, 30 YEARS ASPHALT HAS A
1:17:34 VERY LIGHTWEIGHT USE.
1:17:35 IT'S VERY DURABLE WHEN IT'S
1:17:37 NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVELY
1:17:40 AFFECTED WATER UTILITY CUTS YOU
1:17:42 KNOW THAT THAT.
1:17:43 THAT TYPE OF THING.
1:17:44 YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE A LONG
1:17:46 TIME.
1:17:47 FOR ASPHALT TO BREAK DOWN, UM,
1:17:49 20, 30 YEARS EASILY.
1:17:52 OKAY.
1:17:52 AND THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB
1:17:54 QUESTION AND I'M.
1:17:54 SORRY THIS IS THE FOLLOW UP
1:17:55 QUESTION.
1:17:55 THE ASPHALT THAT YOU'RE USING
1:17:57 IS THIS THE SAME THIS IS THE
1:17:59 SAME MATERIAL THAT LIKE FLAKES
1:18:01 OFF WHEN, UH, LIKE SNOW COMES
1:18:05 OR YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE
1:18:06 BLACK FLAKY MATERIAL THAT WE
1:18:08 SEE MAYBE ON SIDEWALKS AND
1:18:10 DEFINITELY STREETS.
1:18:12 SO IT'S NOT THE SAME ASPHALT
1:18:14 THAT WE USE TO PAVE ROADWAYS.
1:18:16 IT'S CALLED A TENNIS UM TENNIS
1:18:19 COURT OR TENNIS COURT TOP MIX.
1:18:21 BASICALLY IT HAS A SMALLER
1:18:22 AGGREGATE.
1:18:25 UM SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S
1:18:26 FINER IT'S IT'S.
1:18:28 A YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THE
1:18:31 ASPHALT FOR A ROADWAY IS BUILT
1:18:32 WITH LARGER AT A GROUP AT GREAT
1:18:34 MEANING IT'S YOU KNOW UM YOU
1:18:35 KNOW THE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS BY
1:18:37 TWO THIS IS ADDED TO A LARGER
1:18:39 ROCK OR A STONE UM AND THAT
1:18:42 BINDS TOGETHER AND THAT MAKES A
1:18:44 VERY DURABLE ROADWAY.
1:18:45 RIGHT.
1:18:45 SO IT'S VERY STRONG.
1:18:47 UM THE POTHOLES THE TOP MIX
1:18:49 THAT WE USE FOR POTHOLES IS
1:18:50 ALSO VERY STRONG.
1:18:51 IT'S JUST USED WITH UH, SAND OR
1:18:54 VERY, VERY SMALL STONES.
1:18:56 UM, IT PROVIDES A BETTER SEAL
1:18:58 IF YOU WILL.
1:18:59 SO BE IT ADHERED ADHERES BETTER
1:19:02 SO WATER DOESN'T ISN'T ABLE TO
1:19:03 SEEP IN.
1:19:05 UM CHEAPER WHICH IS WHAT JUST
1:19:07 JUST POP US, UM, EASY TO WORK
1:19:09 WITH.
1:19:10 UM, SO YEAH SO IT'S YOU KNOW,
1:19:13 IT'S RELATIVELY THE SAME.
1:19:15 OKAY.
1:19:16 THANK YOU.
1:19:16 UM I APOLOGIZE THANK YOU FOR
1:19:18 THE FOLKS ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY
1:19:19 FOR INDULGE ME.
1:19:20 UM, WE'LL GO TO VIRTUAL
1:19:21 TESTIMONY WE HAVE WE'LL START
1:19:22 WITH NANCY.
1:19:23 UH, RICK AND THEN TERESA.
1:19:27 I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SAYING YOUR
1:19:28 NAME INCORRECTLY.
1:19:28 UM, THEN WE HAVE TWO MORE FOLKS
1:19:30 SIGNED UP, BUT WE'LL START WITH
1:19:31 NANCY.
1:19:31 UM, NANCY, PLEASE UNMUTE
1:19:34 YOURSELF.
1:19:34 UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR
1:19:36 AFFILIATION AND YOU HAVE TWO
1:19:38 MINUTES.
1:19:42 HI.
1:19:42 I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS.
1:19:44 THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION
1:19:45 .
1:19:46 UM, MY NAME IS NANCY LEO AND I
1:19:48 HAVE LIVED ON STELLA ROAD A
1:19:50 PRIVATE WAY IN ROSLINDALE SINCE
1:19:52 1988.
1:19:53 STELLA ROAD IS BETWEEN AMERICAN
1:19:56 LEGION HIGHWAY AND HYDE PARK
1:19:58 OF.
1:19:59 THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR
1:20:02 CREATING THIS ORDINANCE.
1:20:03 I SUPPORT DOCKET 0807 ORDINANCE
1:20:07 TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAYS WAY
1:20:10 POTHOLES.
1:20:11 THAT SAID, THIS IS ONLY THE
1:20:13 START TO ADDRESSING A LONG
1:20:14 STANDING PROBLEM DUE TO
1:20:16 ANTIQUATED LAWS OVER 100 YEARS
1:20:19 AGO WHEN THIS FARMLAND AREA WAS
1:20:21 DEVELOPED, STELLA ROAD WAS LEFT
1:20:23 AS A PRIVATE WAY.
1:20:25 COMMON PRACTICE IN THE CITY AND
1:20:26 ACROSS THE STATE.
1:20:27 WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME 38
1:20:30 YEARS AGO STILL A ROAD WAS IN
1:20:33 DISREPAIR.
1:20:34 A PRIVATE WAY IS NOT A MUST
1:20:36 HAVE ON A HOMEBUYING LIST.
1:20:38 IT COMES WITH THE PROPERTY
1:20:40 PRIVATE WEIGHS A HEAVILY
1:20:41 TRAFFICKED BY THE PUBLIC
1:20:43 INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLES
1:20:45 NOT SIMPLY USED BY THE CURRENT
1:20:47 PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS.
1:20:49 CITY INITIATIVES SUCH AS
1:20:51 CUMMINGS STREET HAVE
1:20:52 DRAMATICALLY INCREASED TRAFFIC
1:20:54 ON PRIVATE WAYS.
1:20:57 PRIVATE WAYS HAVE BEEN A
1:20:58 GIVEAWAY FROM THE CITY TO
1:21:00 DEVELOPERS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
1:21:03 DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED
1:21:05 TO BUILD ROADS THAT MEET THE
1:21:06 CITY STATE STANDARDS AND NOT
1:21:09 SHIFT THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND
1:21:11 COST ONTO FUTURE HOMEOWNERS OR
1:21:13 BLAME THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS
1:21:15 FOR SUBSTANDARD ROADS.
1:21:18 CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE
1:21:20 RESPONSIBLE FOR SWEET DEALS
1:21:22 GIVING TO DEVELOPERS FIVE, TEN,
1:21:24 50 YEARS AGO CONSIDERING THE
1:21:28 CONVERSION OF PRIVATE WAYS TO
1:21:30 PUBLIC ROADS.
1:21:31 CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT
1:21:33 SHOULD NOT ASSUME ADDITIONAL
1:21:35 COST AND INCREASE TAXES.
1:21:37 PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS PAY CITY
1:21:39 AND STATE TAXES WITH A PORTION
1:21:42 OF THOSE BUDGETS GOING TO
1:21:44 REPAIR ROADS.
1:21:45 NONE OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS
1:21:47 REPAIR THEIR PRIVATE WAYS DUE
1:21:49 TO OUTDATED LAWS.
1:21:51 THESE RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED
1:21:52 TO PAY TWICE.
1:21:54 PLEASE DON'T LET THIS ORDINANCE
1:21:56 BE THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.
1:21:58 I JUST WANT TO ADD TWO THINGS
1:22:00 FROM THE CONVERSATION IS THAT
1:22:04 UM YES THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS
1:22:06 AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED
1:22:08 HE LIKES HIS DEAD END STREET
1:22:09 THE WAY IT IS.
1:22:10 STILL THE ROADS ARE CUT
1:22:12 THROUGH, IT IS USED AS A CUT
1:22:14 THROUGH AND IT GETS WORSE AND
1:22:16 WORSE OVER THE LAST HUNDRED
1:22:18 YEARS.
1:22:18 THE OTHER THING IS UM, IN TERMS
1:22:22 OF BUDGETING I THINK THAT
1:22:24 HERE'S A CREATIVE FINANCIAL
1:22:26 CONCEPT THAT THE RESIDENTS ON A
1:22:28 PRIVATE WAY.
1:22:30 ALL MY TAXES ALL THEIR TAXES ON
1:22:32 THEIR PRIVATE WAY GO INTO A
1:22:34 SPECIAL FUND, NOT GO INTO THE
1:22:36 WHOLE GENERAL BUZZ BUDGET FOR 5
1:22:38 OR 10 YEARS AND THEN THAT MONEY
1:22:40 CAN BE USED TO REPAIR THAT
1:22:42 STREET.
1:22:42 SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS HAVE TO
1:22:45 BE FOUND FOR THESE ANTIQUATED
1:22:47 LAWS AND AS UM UH GABRIEL'S THE
1:22:51 PART THAT SAID WE NEED WE DO
1:22:53 NEED TO CHANGE THE LAWS.
1:22:55 IT MAY TAKE TIME BUT PLEASE
1:22:57 ADDRESS CHANGING THESE LAWS AND
1:22:59 EVERYTHING ISN'T A ONE SIZE
1:23:01 FITS ALL.
1:23:01 AS YOU MENTIONED, MY STREET
1:23:03 ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH.
1:23:04 MAYBE SIDEWALKS CAN'T BE ON
1:23:06 BOTH SIDES BUT THEY COULD BE ON
1:23:08 HAVE ONE SIDE.
1:23:09 THERE NEEDS TO BE CREATIVE
1:23:10 THINKING TO REALLY CHANGE THIS.
1:23:12 IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S JUST BEEN
1:23:14 KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR 100
1:23:16 YEARS.
1:23:16 THANK YOU.
1:23:18 THANK YOU NANCY.
1:23:19 UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE RICK AND
1:23:21 THEN THERESA AND THEN SHIRLEY.
1:23:41 OR BAYSHORE.
1:23:43 THERE WE GO.
1:23:45 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR.
1:23:47 THIS, UH, THIS HEARING OUT.
1:23:50 ON MY COUNSELOR, UH, BRIAN
1:23:52 WORRELL.
1:23:53 I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR BEING
1:23:55 INVOLVED IN THIS AND, UH, THE
1:23:58 COMMISSIONER IT'S, A, UH, VERY
1:24:00 INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION.
1:24:01 UH, IT MADE THE COMPLEXITY
1:24:03 OF THIS PROBLEM.
1:24:05 UM, I'M A CO-LEADER OF THE
1:24:06 MOUNT HOPE CANTERBURY
1:24:07 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALONG
1:24:08 AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.
1:24:11 UM, I DID A COUNT AND THE OTHER
1:24:14 DAY WE HAVE, UH, TEN PRIVATE
1:24:17 ROADS, UH, ADDING UP TO 40
1:24:20 500FT.
1:24:21 UH, THAT ONLY TWO OF THEM ARE
1:24:23 DEAD ENDS AND THERE'S, YOU
1:24:25 KNOW, DON'T GET MUCH TRAFFIC
1:24:26 THE LAST WHILE, UH,
1:24:29 INTERESTINGLY, YOUR FIRST VIDEO
1:24:32 AND, UH, THE VIDEO FROM NANCY I
1:24:34 BOTH UH UH, MEMBERS OF OUR
1:24:37 COMMUNITY UH, THE FIRST ONE
1:24:39 WITH THE BRADSTREET ROAD WHICH
1:24:42 ALMOST INTERSECTS STELLA AND ON
1:24:45 WHAT YOU SEE AND FROM THE VIDEO
1:24:49 AND FROM NANCY'S PRESENTATION,
1:24:50 WHAT YOU HEAR FROM NANCY'S
1:24:52 PRESENTATION IS THE TYPICAL
1:24:54 PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:24:56 UM.
1:24:58 I WON'T REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY
1:25:00 ELSE HAS SAID, BUT IT'S, UH
1:25:02 IT'S SORT OF UNBELIEVABLE.
1:25:04 WE'LL BE SEEING A ROAD LIKE
1:25:05 THAT IN SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITION
1:25:07 UH, HERE IN BOSTON AND AND UH,
1:25:10 GOING ON FOR DECADES AND WE'RE
1:25:12 IN THIS LOGJAM AT UH IT'S A I
1:25:15 CAN SEE IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT,
1:25:17 UM, IT'S A WORKING CLASS
1:25:19 NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:25:21 MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING
1:25:22 TROUBLE JUST PAYING THEIR
1:25:23 MORTGAGES TO TAKE ON AN
1:25:25 EXPENSIVE TAKE TO DO THIS
1:25:26 PRIVATELY IS JUST NOT GOING TO
1:25:27 HAPPEN YET WE CONTINUE TO HAVE
1:25:30 THESE, UH, TERRIBLE ROADWAYS.
1:25:33 UM, I WAS THINKING WHEN WE'RE,
1:25:36 UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, WE
1:25:38 HAVE PUBLIC ROADS IN OUR
1:25:40 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON'T HAVE
1:25:42 SIDEWALKS.
1:25:43 UM, CANTERBURY PART OF, UH,
1:25:47 CANTERBURY.
1:25:48 UM.
1:25:49 ,ROAD AND UM, MOUNT CALVARY.
1:25:53 UH, AND IT WOULD BE VERY
1:25:55 DIFFICULT NOW IN SOME WAYS AND
1:25:58 SOME PARTS OF THEM TO PUT IN
1:25:59 SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE ROAD IS
1:26:00 SO NARROW LIKE ON ONE SIDE IT'S
1:26:02 A DROP OFF AND THE OTHER SIDE
1:26:04 OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE YOU'RE NOT
1:26:05 GOING TO GET YOUR 53FT.
1:26:08 SO BUT IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD AND
1:26:11 IT GETS REPAIRED AND I MEAN
1:26:14 IT'S THE SAME SITUATION YOU
1:26:15 KNOW IT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE
1:26:17 PUBLIC AND IT GETS REPAIRED.
1:26:19 A IT IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE
1:26:21 SIDEWALKS OR UM SO I, I HOPE I
1:26:28 SEE THIS UH THIS PROPOSAL AS A
1:26:32 STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
1:26:33 I SEE WE HAVE UH, DO HAVE A
1:26:35 WAYS TO GO UH TO REALLY BE ABLE
1:26:39 TO DO THE CORRECT UH UH,
1:26:43 IMPROVEMENTS.
1:26:44 UM, ONE QUESTION I'D HAVE IS IF
1:26:46 I CAN JUST I THINK IT'S ON THE
1:26:48 MAYBE MCALARY UM, THERE'S NO
1:26:53 SIDEWALKS BUT THE THE THE
1:26:55 ASPHALT WHEN IT GOES TO THE
1:26:57 EDGES THEY BUILD IN A SMALL UH,
1:27:00 CURB BASICALLY ON THE ASPHALT.
1:27:02 SO THAT KEEPS THE WATER FROM
1:27:04 GOING TO PEOPLE'S YARDS GOES
1:27:06 DOWN THE HILL AND AT THE BOTTOM
1:27:09 THERE'S UH THEN IT INTERSECTS A
1:27:12 CANTERBURY STREET AND THERE'S
1:27:14 UM.
1:27:14 YOU KNOW, A UH.
1:27:18 A DRAINAGE POINT AT THAT POINT.
1:27:21 SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UH IN
1:27:23 BETWEEN UH, SOLUTION FOR THE
1:27:26 CITY.
1:27:27 UH, WE COULD HAVE JUST REPAVED
1:27:29 THESE THINGS AND BUILD THOSE A
1:27:30 LITTLE CURBS UH, THAT WOULD, UH
1:27:34 WOULDN'T DEAL WITH THE SIDEWALK
1:27:36 SITUATION BUT IT WOULD HELP.
1:27:38 YOU KNOW.
1:27:39 KEEP THE WATER OUT OF PEOPLE'S
1:27:41 ,UM.
1:27:43 YARDS.
1:27:45 IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT
1:27:47 POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO WRITE
1:27:49 AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT?
1:27:52 AND NOT RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH
1:27:54 A STATE LAW?
1:27:55 THAT IS, IF YOU DO A PRETTY
1:27:58 GOOD JOB OF JUST RESURFACING
1:27:59 DEALING WITH THE WATER RUNOFF
1:28:00 BUT YOU DON'T PUT ON SIDEWALKS
1:28:05 OR IS THAT JUST NOT POSSIBLE?
1:28:08 ANYWAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
1:28:09 THANK YOU.
1:28:12 THANK YOU RICK.
1:28:13 UM WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT WITH
1:28:14 OUR UM WITH OUR COUNCIL.
1:28:17 APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TESTIMONY
1:28:18 .
1:28:19 UM NEXT UP WE HAVE SHIRLEY AND
1:28:22 THEN CHRISTOPHER.
1:28:40 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
1:28:43 YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
1:28:45 OKAY, GREAT.
1:28:46 UM, THANKS FOR.
1:28:47 THE OPPORTUNITY.
1:28:47 I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY I WAS
1:28:49 INVITED HERE.
1:28:50 I THINK BECAUSE I CONTACTED
1:28:52 COUNCILMAN WEBER ABOUT SOME
1:28:53 ISSUES I WAS HAVING ON MY
1:28:54 PRIVATE WAY WHICH ARE TOTALLY
1:28:57 DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE
1:28:58 SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY.
1:28:59 UM, I WANT TO MENTION THEM ONLY
1:29:01 IN THE SENSE THAT.
1:29:04 UM, SITTING HERE LISTENING I
1:29:06 UNDERSTAND THAT PRIMARIES WERE
1:29:08 ALL OVER BOSTON AND I'M SURE
1:29:11 THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH
1:29:12 AN OLD CITY AND WE USED TO HAVE
1:29:13 COW PATHS AND CARRIAGE ROADS
1:29:14 AND ALL THAT AND WE'RE
1:29:16 SUFFERING UNDER THE THOSE
1:29:18 ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO
1:29:19 MAKE IT, UH, A.
1:29:22 BETTER PLACE TO LIVE FOR
1:29:23 EVERYBODY.
1:29:24 UM, AND ALSO BEING A FORMER
1:29:26 STATE EMPLOYEE I KNOW ABOUT
1:29:29 PRIORITIZATION OF SCARCE
1:29:30 RESOURCES AND HOW DIFFICULT
1:29:31 THIS JOB IS.
1:29:33 SO IN SAYING.
1:29:34 THAT I.
1:29:34 LIVE ON A PRIVATE WHERE I'VE
1:29:35 LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS AND
1:29:37 JAMAICA PLAIN.
1:29:38 I LIVE ON UNION AVE, WHICH IS
1:29:40 KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION
1:29:41 BECAUSE UNION OF THE MAIN PART
1:29:44 OF IT IS A PUBLIC WAY AND WE
1:29:46 HAVE UH IT'S AN L-SHAPED STREET
1:29:48 THAT GOES FROM WASHINGTON TO
1:29:49 GREEN AND MY SECTION HAS FOUR
1:29:52 HOUSES ON IT AND IT'S A PRIVATE
1:29:55 WAY AND IN THE PRIVATE WAY LAW
1:29:59 MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
1:30:00 ABUTTERS OWN HALF THE STREET
1:30:02 AND THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE MY A
1:30:04 BUTLER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS
1:30:06 THE CITY.
1:30:08 NOW POTHOLES ARE THERE.
1:30:10 THEY DON'T BOTHER US BECAUSE IT
1:30:12 SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN BECAUSE THEY
1:30:14 COME AROUND THE CORNER SO
1:30:16 QUICKLY AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO
1:30:18 SIDEWALKS THERE LOTS OF PEOPLE
1:30:20 AND LOTS OF CHILDREN BECAUSE WE
1:30:22 ABOUT THE FIELD AT ENGLISH HIGH
1:30:23 THERE ARE LOTS OF KIDS WALKING
1:30:25 TO AND FROM THE TENNIS COURTS,
1:30:27 THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THE
1:30:29 SOCCER FIELD AND THERE ARE NO
1:30:32 SIDEWALKS AND PEOPLE COME
1:30:33 AROUND THE CORNER OR UP THE
1:30:35 HILL AND IT'S VERY VERY VERY
1:30:37 DANGEROUS.
1:30:38 WE'VE POSTED SIGNS NO PARKING
1:30:41 AND PEOPLE PARK THERE ALL THE
1:30:42 TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TO
1:30:43 WATCH THE GAME AND WE'RE IN A
1:30:47 SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE DON'T
1:30:51 BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT
1:30:53 TO HAVE THEM TOWED.
1:30:54 THEY FIGHT WITH THE TOW DRIVERS
1:30:56 .
1:30:56 IT'S A BAD, BAD SCENE THERE.
1:30:59 I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I JUST
1:31:01 WANT TO RAISE IS THAT EVERY
1:31:03 PRIVATE WEIGHS DIFFERENT.
1:31:05 EVERY SET OF RESIDENTS THAT
1:31:07 LIVE ON THOSE PRIVATE WAYS ARE
1:31:09 DIFFERENT.
1:31:10 I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME
1:31:11 ACROSS WITH A ONE YOU KNOW
1:31:14 SOLUTION FITS ALL AND MAKE
1:31:15 PEOPLE HAPPY.
1:31:17 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN
1:31:19 POSSIBLE, BUT DOING SOME
1:31:20 ASSESSMENT AND PRIORITIZATION
1:31:22 OF THE WORST.
1:31:23 SITUATIONS AND THE ONES THAT
1:31:25 PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE
1:31:27 SOLVED WOULD BE GREAT.
1:31:29 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE
1:31:30 .
1:31:31 WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE
1:31:34 OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET
1:31:36 NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD
1:31:38 MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT
1:31:40 BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE WAY.
1:31:41 WELL AGAIN I'M A TAXPAYING
1:31:44 CITIZEN.
1:31:45 MY SAFETY MEANING PEOPLE THAT
1:31:48 ASSAULT ME WHEN I TELL THEM YOU
1:31:49 CAN'T PARK HERE YOU'RE GOING TO
1:31:50 GET TOWED.
1:31:51 AND THEY VERBALLY ABUSED ME AND
1:31:53 ONE TIME PHYSICALLY ABUSED
1:31:55 ME FOR TELLING THEM THAT TO
1:31:57 SAVE THEM THE $250 TOTAL FEE.
1:32:00 THE POLICE SAY WE CAN'T DO
1:32:01 ANYTHING.
1:32:02 THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE
1:32:05 SOMEONE DUMPED AN OLD.
1:32:07 COLEMAN POP UP TENT TRAILER ON
1:32:09 OUR PRIVATE WAY ILLEGALLY AND
1:32:12 ALL THE POLICE WERE SAYING WE
1:32:14 CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S
1:32:15 A PRIVATE WAY.
1:32:15 WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
1:32:18 THIS HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY DUMPED.
1:32:21 WE'RE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
1:32:24 THE LAWS STILL APPLY, RIGHT?
1:32:26 I MEAN, THAT'S THE PART THAT
1:32:28 I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TOO IS
1:32:31 CITIZENS OF PRIVATE WAVES
1:32:33 DESERVE ALL THE REST OF CITY
1:32:34 SERVICES PROTECTION BY THE
1:32:37 POLICE.
1:32:38 ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THE PRIVATE
1:32:40 WAY.
1:32:42 I MEAN, SO THERE'S A MYRIAD
1:32:46 OF PROBLEMS FOR PRIVATE WAVE
1:32:47 RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND
1:32:48 POTHOLES ARE A BIG ONE.
1:32:50 LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT
1:32:51 TOO CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE
1:32:53 WE'RE ON A HILL.
1:32:54 WATER DOESN'T SETTLE IN OUR
1:32:56 YARDS.
1:32:57 THE POTHOLES ARE OKAY BECAUSE
1:33:00 THEY'RE NOT THAT DEEP AND IT
1:33:01 SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN.
1:33:02 SO POTHOLES ARE NOT MY BIGGEST
1:33:04 ISSUE.
1:33:04 BUT IT'S FUNNY THAT IN THE LAST
1:33:07 THREE MONTHS TWO TEAMS HAVE
1:33:09 COME AND FILLED THE POTHOLES ON
1:33:11 MY STREET.
1:33:12 I NEVER PUT IN A311 NO ONE ON
1:33:14 MY STREET DID EITHER SO I DON'T
1:33:15 KNOW MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE
1:33:17 OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE BUT UM
1:33:20 THERE'S A MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS
1:33:22 WITH PRIVATE WAYS.
1:33:23 I THINK THE CITY WOULD DO WELL
1:33:25 IN CHECKING WITH THE RESIDENTS
1:33:27 TO SEE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THEY
1:33:31 HAVE, WHAT DO THEY NEED?
1:33:34 AND AGAIN THIS MAY BE A BIG JOB
1:33:37 BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO
1:33:38 PRIORITIZE PEOPLE.
1:33:39 AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT A
1:33:41 LOT OF THESE DIRT ROADS I KNOW
1:33:43 IN MAINE AND IN NOVA SCOTIA
1:33:45 BECAUSE WE GO THERE A LOT THEY
1:33:47 HAVE DIRT ROADS THAT ARE HARD
1:33:49 PACKED AND THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD
1:33:51 BECAUSE THE FREEZE THAW ISSUE
1:33:53 DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE FOR
1:33:54 THEM BECAUSE IT JUST DRAINS
1:33:56 AWAY.
1:33:56 I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A
1:33:58 ANOTHER SOLUTION TO LOOK INTO
1:34:00 OTHER FORMS OF HARD PACKED
1:34:04 ROADS THAT WON'T PRODUCE
1:34:06 POTHOLES LIKE GET PRODUCED WITH
1:34:09 ASPHALT AND PATCH COLD PATCH.
1:34:14 UM I JUST THINK LIKE ONE OF THE
1:34:16 OTHER VIDEO THE WOMAN IN THE
1:34:18 VIDEO EARLIER SAID UH, WE HAVE
1:34:20 TO BE CREATIVE AND WE HAVE TO
1:34:22 LOOK AND LOOK AT THE OUTDATED
1:34:23 LAWS.
1:34:24 I WORKED FOR THE COURTS FOR 30
1:34:25 YEARS.
1:34:25 I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS
1:34:27 ON THE BOOKS THAT JUST ARE NOT
1:34:28 IN SERVICE OF US TODAY.
1:34:31 UM WITH TECHNOLOGY AND
1:34:32 EVERYTHING ELSE ONE OF THE
1:34:33 PROBLEMS IS WAZE, RIGHT?
1:34:35 IT'S ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW
1:34:36 TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC THAT'S
1:34:37 BEEN CAUSED BY NEW TRAFFIC
1:34:39 PATTERNS AND THEY'RE USING ALL
1:34:40 THESE PRIVATE WAYS.
1:34:42 ALL THE PUBLIC IS USING THEIR
1:34:44 EASEMENT TO GET OVER TO CUT OFF
1:34:46 THE LIGHT ON WASHINGTON STREET
1:34:48 OR GET THROUGH SOMEWHERE ON
1:34:49 AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.
1:34:51 I MEAN, WE'RE CREATING PROBLEMS
1:34:54 THAT ARE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS
1:34:55 FOR US.
1:34:55 I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A BIG
1:34:57 SORT OF A GLOBAL LOOK.
1:34:59 JUST JUST SOME THOUGHTS ON THE
1:35:00 MATTER.
1:35:01 UH, HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY I
1:35:04 CAN, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE TIME
1:35:06 AND, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
1:35:09 ISSUES I'VE HAD.
1:35:10 THANKS.
1:35:10 THANK YOU.
1:35:11 SHIRLEY.
1:35:13 UM, NEXT UP.
1:35:15 IS CHRISTOPHER.
1:35:25 HI.
1:35:25 CAN YOU HEAR ME?
1:35:27 WE CAN HEAR YOU.
1:35:28 YEP.
1:35:28 WONDERFUL.
1:35:29 UM, I'M CHRIS ARENA.
1:35:30 I'M ACTUALLY CAMERA OFF BECAUSE
1:35:32 I'M CALLING FROM ACADIA
1:35:34 NATIONAL PARK RIGHT NOW THAT
1:35:35 THIS MATTER MATTERS SO MUCH TO
1:35:36 ME THAT I FIGURED I'D TAKE A
1:35:38 SECOND FOR MY VACATION AND CALL
1:35:39 IN AND TALK ABOUT MY
1:35:40 EXPERIENCE.
1:35:41 UM, THIS ISSUE DATES BACK TO
1:35:43 CONVERSATIONS WITH FORMER
1:35:44 COUNCILOR LAURA COUNCIL CURRENT
1:35:46 COUNCILOR WEBER.
1:35:47 UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH
1:35:49 HOMEOWNERS.
1:35:49 IN THE GROVE.
1:35:50 IN BOSTON.
1:35:51 WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR SIX YEARS
1:35:52 NOW.
1:35:53 WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:35:53 UM, THE HISTORY OF THIS
1:35:54 NEIGHBORHOOD IS HILARIOUS AND
1:35:56 INTERESTING AND STRANGE.
1:35:57 IT USED TO BE A SUMMER
1:35:58 DESTINATION OF THE WEALTHY BACK
1:36:00 BAY ELITES WHO WOULD TAKE THEIR
1:36:01 COTTAGES AND THEIR CARRIAGES
1:36:03 DOWN TO A COTTAGE, UH.
1:36:04 AND AND VACATION IN THE CITY
1:36:07 OF BOSTON AND THEIR OWN CITY UM
1:36:08 AND THEIR LITTLE, UH, OASIS.
1:36:10 WE LOVE THE CHARACTER OF THIS
1:36:12 NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:36:13 UM, BUT THERE ARE TWO CORE
1:36:14 ISSUES THAT I THINK EVERYONE
1:36:16 EXPERIENCES AND HAS DIFFERENT
1:36:17 REACTIONS TO.
1:36:18 THE FIRST OF WHICH IS ROADS AND
1:36:20 I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A
1:36:21 SECOND AND THE SECOND OF WHICH
1:36:22 IS STREETS.
1:36:23 SO THE STREETS IN THE GROVE
1:36:24 WERE NEVER CONSIDERED THOUGHT
1:36:26 OUT MAPPED OUT INTENTIONALLY IN
1:36:29 A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED
1:36:31 WITH A LOT OF OUR ISSUES.
1:36:33 UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE ON A
1:36:35 ROAD CALLED DANA ROAD.
1:36:36 UH, AND THERE'S 3 OR 4
1:36:37 DIFFERENT PARTS TO DANA ROAD
1:36:39 WHERE IT JUST CUTS OFF THROUGH
1:36:40 A RESIDENCE.
1:36:41 UH, WHAT USED TO BE A COTTAGE
1:36:43 AND IS NOW UH, A HOUSE.
1:36:44 UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO HAS,
1:36:47 YOU KNOW, LIFELONG RESIDENTS
1:36:48 AND GENERATIONAL RESIDENTS AND
1:36:49 FOLKS LIKE MY WIFE AND I WHO
1:36:51 CAME FROM ALLSTON AND MANY
1:36:53 YEARS IN DIFFERENT BOSTON
1:36:54 NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE ROSLINDALE.
1:36:55 UM, A STORY THAT I WANTED TO
1:36:57 SHARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN
1:36:58 THE ROAD WHICH IS REALLY
1:37:00 CHALLENGING IS WE HAD A
1:37:01 RESIDENT WHO PASSED AWAY NOT
1:37:02 MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS
1:37:03 AGO.
1:37:03 UM, I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY
1:37:06 CHATTING WITH THE AMBULANCE
1:37:07 AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO CAME THE
1:37:08 PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS AFTER THE
1:37:10 RESIDENT HAD PASSED.
1:37:12 UM AND THEY HAD MENTIONED JUST
1:37:13 HOW DIFFICULT WAS TO NOT ONLY
1:37:15 FIND THE HOUSE BUT TO GET IN,
1:37:17 UM, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET
1:37:19 LIFESAVING CARE.
1:37:20 UM, THEY HAD TO COME DOWN A
1:37:22 ROAD CALLED LINDEN WHICH
1:37:23 CHANGES ITS NAMES TWO DIFFERENT
1:37:24 TIMES AND HAS THE WORST
1:37:26 POTHOLES IN BOSTON.
1:37:27 I PROMISE YOU, UH, YOU WILL NOT
1:37:29 FIND A DEEPER POTHOLE.
1:37:30 I THINK COUNCILOR WEBER TALKED
1:37:32 ABOUT A TANK SIZED POTHOLE.
1:37:33 THERE ARE THREE OF THEM ON
1:37:35 LINDEN.
1:37:35 SO THIS AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET
1:37:36 DOWN.
1:37:36 HAD TO DRIVE THE OTHER WAY.
1:37:38 AND AGAIN AT THIS POINT WE'RE
1:37:40 TALKING ABOUT DELAYING LIFE
1:37:41 SERVING CARE.
1:37:42 UM, UH, THE SIMPLE ISSUES WITH
1:37:44 THE POSTAL SERVICE I HAVE THOSE
1:37:46 SAME ISSUES IN THE WINTER WHERE
1:37:47 THEY CAN'T DRIVE DOWN AND
1:37:48 DELIVER OUR MAIL.
1:37:49 UM, BUT ANOTHER REALLY PRESSING
1:37:51 CURRENT ISSUE IS A TREE ON, UH,
1:37:53 DANA ROAD RECENTLY DIED.
1:37:55 A VERY, VERY LARGE TREE.
1:37:57 UM, AND IN TRYING TO GET THIS
1:37:59 TREE REMOVED WE SPOKE TO
1:38:01 EVERSOURCE.
1:38:01 WE SPOKE TO THE CITY, WE SPOKE
1:38:03 TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT
1:38:04 PARTNERS AND AS A PRIVATE WAY,
1:38:06 THE ONLY RESPONSE TO THE
1:38:08 RESPONSIBILITY COMES FROM THE
1:38:09 NEIGHBORS OF ACTUALLY SERVICING
1:38:10 THIS TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
1:38:11 ROAD.
1:38:12 UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK THE ISSUE
1:38:15 IS NOT TO HAVE THE GROVE BECOME
1:38:17 A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THREE
1:38:20 DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS AND
1:38:22 INDUSTRIALIZATION I THINK SOME
1:38:23 OF THE LONG TERM NEIGHBORS
1:38:23 WOULD BE AGAINST THAT, ALTHOUGH
1:38:25 I THINK IT'D BE LOVELY TO HAVE
1:38:27 MORE NEIGHBORS IN MY
1:38:27 NEIGHBORHOOD.
1:38:28 UM, BUT THE REALITY IS THE
1:38:29 GROVE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE
1:38:30 MOST PRESSING AREAS UH, STREET
1:38:32 DISREPAIR IN THE ENTIRE CITY.
1:38:34 NO ONE'S GOING TO USE THIS
1:38:36 PLACE AS A CUT THROUGH, I
1:38:37 PROMISE.
1:38:37 WASHINGTON TO GROVE STREET IS
1:38:39 NOT A COMMON ROUTE THAT PEOPLE
1:38:41 TAKE.
1:38:41 UM, BUT IF WE CAN FIND A
1:38:43 SOLUTION THAT CAN ENSURE
1:38:46 RESIDENTS WHO NEED MEDICAL CARE
1:38:48 IN THE MOMENT GET IT FASTER
1:38:50 THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT
1:38:51 DELIVERY DRIVERS KNOW WHICH
1:38:53 PART OF DANA ROAD THEY CAN GET
1:38:54 TO.
1:38:55 UM, AND ALSO THAT FUTURE
1:38:56 RESIDENTS KIND OF KNOW WHAT
1:38:57 THEY'RE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY
1:38:58 BUY A PROPERTY WITH A SEPTIC
1:39:00 TANK AND A PRIVATE ROAD.
1:39:01 I THINK COLLABORATION UM IN A
1:39:04 MIDDLE GROUND LIKE PERHAPS JUST
1:39:06 A PAVING OR A HEAVY DIRT PACK
1:39:08 LIKE I BELIEVE SHIRLEY JUST
1:39:09 SAID AS OPPOSED.
1:39:11 TO SIDEWALKS AND A DEEPLY
1:39:12 DEFINED ROAD.
1:39:13 UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED.
1:39:15 LIKE I SAID, I WAS HAVING
1:39:16 CONVERSATIONS WITH KENDRA,
1:39:17 LAURA AND A FORMER
1:39:18 COUNCIL LAURA AND CURRENT
1:39:20 COUNCIL MEMBER.
1:39:20 I THINK YOU'LL FIND MANY
1:39:22 RESIDENTS IN THE GROVE WANT TO
1:39:23 BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION, NOT
1:39:24 JUST HAVE IT PERFORMED FOR THEM
1:39:26 .
1:39:26 UM THE DIFFICULTY IS THE
1:39:28 PROCESS AND THEN I'LL CLOSE
1:39:29 WITH THIS.
1:39:30 THE PICK PROCESS IS REALLY
1:39:32 CHALLENGING.
1:39:32 I DON'T KNOW HALF OF MY
1:39:33 NEIGHBORS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T
1:39:35 WANT TO BUT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN
1:39:37 DIFFERENT AREAS.
1:39:38 SOME WORK VERY DIFFERENT JOBS
1:39:39 AND SCHEDULES AND.
1:39:41 THE GROVE IS.
1:39:42 A REALLY BIG NEIGHBORHOOD TO
1:39:43 GET 50% OF PEOPLE EVEN TO A
1:39:45 MEETING LET ALONE TO AGREE ON
1:39:47 SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE REALLY
1:39:48 CHALLENGING.
1:39:49 SO INSTEAD IF WE COULD FOCUS ON
1:39:51 SOLUTIONS THAT CAN ACTIVATE
1:39:52 CERTAIN NEIGHBORS UM, THAT CAN
1:39:54 ALSO BRING THE ROAD UP TO A
1:39:57 STANDARD IF NOT A CODE THAT
1:39:58 WOULD BE FANTASTIC AND I'M SO
1:39:59 GRATEFUL AT THE CHANCE TO
1:40:00 SPEAK.
1:40:01 UM AND WE'RE HAPPY BE HAPPY TO
1:40:02 STAY INVOLVED.
1:40:03 THANK YOU.
1:40:04 THANK YOU CHRIS.
1:40:07 UH, THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC
1:40:09 TESTIMONY.
1:40:09 I'LL NOW GO TO THE LEAD SPONSOR
1:40:12 FOR ANY CLOSING REMARKS AND
1:40:13 THEN WE'LL, UH, CLOSE IT OUT.
1:40:15 UH THANK YOU CHAIR.
1:40:15 THANK YOU TO.
1:40:17 ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDED
1:40:19 ,UM, REMARKS.
1:40:21 UM, A LOT OF CREATIVE IDEAS.
1:40:25 AND WE'LL DEFINITELY.
1:40:28 INCORPORATE THEM.
1:40:29 MAY BE REACHING.
1:40:29 OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ON,
1:40:33 UM, COMING UP.
1:40:34 WITH WAYS ON HOW TO.
1:40:38 GET CREATIVE ON BRINGING
1:40:40 RELEASE.
1:40:40 RELIEF TO.
1:40:42 UH, THE.
1:40:43 RESIDENTS THAT.
1:40:43 ARE LIVING ON PRIVATE WAYS.
1:40:45 UM.
1:40:46 I GUESS WHAT OF MY.
1:40:47 QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
1:40:49 FIND OUT.
1:40:50 SUPERINTENDENT NE IS.
1:40:53 IF YOU WERE TO.
1:40:54 FILL ALL THE POTHOLES ON
1:40:57 PRIVATE.
1:40:57 WAYS TO THE 311 TO THE 311 THAT
1:41:03 YOU RECEIVE IT.
1:41:05 UM AND SO YOU HAVE THIS NUMBER
1:41:06 NOW BUT IF YOU COULD FIND OUT
1:41:09 WHAT WOULD THAT.
1:41:10 COST YOU?
1:41:11 BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUAL
1:41:13 COMPLAINTS.
1:41:13 THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED OUT.
1:41:15 IF WE CAN GET A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
1:41:17 ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
1:41:19 UM.
1:41:20 I THINK IT COULD BE USEFUL TO
1:41:24 ME TO.
1:41:24 UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COSTS.
1:41:27 WOULD BE.
1:41:28 UM.
1:41:30 FOR JUST FILLING THE
1:41:31 POTHOLES.
1:41:32 UM.
1:41:34 SO SPEAKING OF OF HOLES THAT
1:41:37 HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILLED OR
1:41:38 ONES THAT WE FILL.
1:41:39 THE ONE THAT YOU HAVEN'T
1:41:40 FILLED.
1:41:42 ONES THAT WE HAVEN'T FILLED.
1:41:43 OKAY.
1:41:43 GOTCHA.
1:41:44 311 REQUEST THAT HAVE BEEN
1:41:46 CLOSED OUT SAYING.
1:41:47 HEY THESE ARE PRIVATE.
1:41:49 WAYS WHEN I CAN FILL IT OUT.
1:41:50 IT GOES THROUGH THIS ASSET.
1:41:51 ASSESSMENT PROCESS, UM,
1:41:52 WHETHER.
1:41:53 IT REACHES THIS PUBLIC SAFETY
1:41:55 THRESHOLD.
1:41:56 RIGHT.
1:41:58 SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE
1:41:59 TO.
1:42:00 FILL THOSE.
1:42:01 UM YEAH.
1:42:02 WE DON'T WE CAN TRY.
1:42:04 THE ONLY ISSUE WOULD BE YOU.
1:42:07 KNOW.
1:42:07 AGAIN THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
1:42:10 DIFFERENTIATE.
1:42:11 THEY SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH
1:42:12 THE ROADWAY.
1:42:12 IT'S A POTHOLE INTERNALLY.
1:42:14 YOU KNOW WE SEE WE DEAL WITH
1:42:16 THEM KIND OF AS ROADWAY
1:42:17 DEFECTS.
1:42:17 SO.
1:42:18 UM, I CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW.
1:42:25 LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP
1:42:26 WITH.
1:42:27 UM.
1:42:28 I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT
1:42:29 ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT
1:42:30 WE CAN COME UP WITH.
1:42:32 OKAY.
1:42:33 UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HEARD
1:42:36 FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS.
1:42:38 YOU KNOW, THE TAX PAYERS, UH
1:42:40 ,THEIR.
1:42:41 THEIR TAXES GO INTO.
1:42:43 A.
1:42:43 GENERAL FUND WHICH THEN GOES IN
1:42:45 FIX.
1:42:45 FIXES, UM, POTHOLES.
1:42:47 OR PROVIDE CITY SERVICES.
1:42:49 UM.
1:42:50 TO TO OTHER STREETS.
1:42:52 AND AGAIN LIKE THIS IS.
1:42:54 JUST TRYING.
1:42:54 TO FIND.
1:42:55 A STEP FORWARD ON TRYING TO.
1:42:57 YOU KNOW.
1:42:58 GET THESE RESIDENTS THAT
1:42:59 LIVE ON.
1:42:59 PRIVATE WAVE AND.
1:43:00 I'M NOT.
1:43:01 AWARE OF ANY YOU KNOW
1:43:04 DIFFERENT TAXING TAXES.
1:43:08 I DON'T.
1:43:09 THINK THEY'RE GETTING ANY
1:43:10 THEY'RE NOT PAYING LESS IN
1:43:11 TAXES TO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY
1:43:14 TO TO TRY TO GET YOU KNOW,
1:43:15 THESE RESIDENTS.
1:43:17 UM.
1:43:17 YOU KNOW, SOME SOME RELIEF
1:43:20 AND ONE WAY IS.
1:43:21 YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO UPDATE
1:43:22 THE LAW TO KIND OF GET UM, YOU
1:43:25 KNOW WHAT.
1:43:26 WHAT.
1:43:26 WOULD WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING
1:43:27 AND GOING THROUGH NOW.
1:43:28 SO JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
1:43:30 WHO WAS PART OF THE
1:43:32 CONVERSATION.
1:43:33 SHOUT OUT TO UH, MATT FROM MY
1:43:34 TEAM WHO BEEN WORKING ON THIS
1:43:37 AND HE FOUND THIS CITY
1:43:39 ORDINANCE THAT.
1:43:41 WE ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP TO
1:43:42 COULD BE UPDATED.
1:43:44 UM, TO PROVIDE.
1:43:45 UH, THE CITY WITH.
1:43:47 MORE UH, FLEXIBILITY.
1:43:49 I'M USING AIR FORCE BUT I KNOW
1:43:50 IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE.
1:43:53 UM, BUT JUST PROVIDING THAT,
1:43:54 YOU KNOW, LEGAL UH.
1:43:56 PARAMETER AROUND IT.
1:43:58 UM, AND THEN JUST TRYING TO.
1:43:59 FIND WAYS.
1:44:00 ON TO MAKE IT.
1:44:01 YOU KNOW, UM, I.
1:44:02 GUESS BETTER.
1:44:04 IMPLEMENTED INSTEAD OF.
1:44:05 CREATING A THRESHOLD.
1:44:06 JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
1:44:08 FILLING THESE.
1:44:09 UM, UH, FILLING THE POTHOLES ON
1:44:10 THESE PRIVATE WAY BUT HAPPY TO
1:44:12 TO THE CONVERSATION.
1:44:14 LOOKING FORWARD TO A WORK IN
1:44:15 SESSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
1:44:16 WORKING WITH ALL THE
1:44:17 CONSTITUENTS.
1:44:18 ON FINDING.
1:44:19 CREATIVE WAYS ON HOW TO SOLVE
1:44:21 THIS.
1:44:21 THANK YOU.
1:44:23 THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORL AND
1:44:24 THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
1:44:25 FORWARD AND TO YOUR TEAM AND
1:44:26 UM, EVERYBODY THAT'S PROVIDED
1:44:28 UH, TESTIMONY AND UM
1:44:30 SUPERINTENDENT, THANK YOU FOR
1:44:31 YOUR WORK REALLY AND TRULY UM
1:44:32 AND TO YOUR TEAM.
1:44:33 UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR
1:44:34 PERSPECTIVE.
1:44:35 UH, THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0807
1:44:38 IS ADJOURNED.
1:44:39 THANKS, EVERYONE.
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