Government Operations on October 15, 2026
2026-10-15

[9:42] OPERATIONS.
[9:43] TODAY IS OCTOBER 15TH 2026
[9:46] AND THE EXACT TIME IS 1006.
[9:48] IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER TWO
[9:49] OF THE ACT OF 2025 MODIFYING
[9:51] CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS OF THE
[9:52] OPEN MEETING LAW AND RELIEVING
[9:53] PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN
[9:55] REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE
[9:56] REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES
[9:57] CONDUCT ITS MEETINGS IN A
[9:58] PUBLIC PLACE THAT IS OPEN AND
[10:00] PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE
[10:01] PUBLIC.
[10:01] THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE
[10:02] CONDUCTING THIS HEARING
[10:03] VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.
[10:04] THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED
[10:06] AND IT IS ALSO BEING LIVE
[10:07] STREAMED AT BOSTON.GOV/CITY
[10:09] COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST
[10:12] ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT, RCN
[10:13] CHANNEL 82 AND FIOS CHANNEL 964
[10:15] .
[10:16] WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO
[10:17] THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT
[10:19] CAGLE@BOSTON.GOV.
[10:20] AND WILL BE MADE PART OF THE
[10:21] RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL
[10:22] COUNCILORS.
[10:23] PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN
[10:25] AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.
[10:26] INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON
[10:27] IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED
[10:29] UP AND WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO
[10:30] TESTIFY.
[10:31] IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR
[10:32] PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT
[10:33] DONE SO, PLEASE EMAIL OUR
[10:34] CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON MEGAN
[10:37] CAVANAUGH AT NEGA.
[10:40] AND ENERGY@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE
[10:44] ZOOM LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL BE
[10:46] ADDED TO THE LIST.
[10:47] JUST AS A HEADS UP FOR CENTRAL
[10:49] STAFF WE DO HAVE TWO
[10:51] PRERECORDED PUBLIC TESTIMONY
[10:53] VIDEOS THAT WE HAVE TO PLAY.
[10:56] IF WE CAN PLAY THOSE BEFORE WE
[10:58] DO PUBLIC TESTIMONY I THINK
[11:00] THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
[11:01] UM OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS
[11:02] ON DOCKET 0807 AN ORDINANCE TO
[11:06] ADDRESS PRIVATE WAY POTHOLES.
[11:08] THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY
[11:10] COUNCILORS BRIAN WORRELL AND
[11:11] AARON MURPHY AND WAS REFERRED
[11:13] TO THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 15TH,
[11:14] 2026.
[11:15] TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY
[11:17] COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL
[11:18] COUNCILOR FLYNN
[11:20] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE AND
[11:20] COUNCIL AS WELL.
[11:22] BUT FOR NOW BEFORE WE GO TO UM
[11:25] THE THE PANEL UH ALL RIGHT,
[11:28] CITY ADMIN EXCUSE ME OUR
[11:30] SUPERINTENDENT OF STREET
[11:31] OPERATIONS DANIEL NEE I'LL GO
[11:32] TO THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR ANY
[11:34] OPENING REMARKS YOU MAY HAVE.
[11:35] UH, COUNCIL ORAL YOU HAVE THE
[11:36] FLOOR.
[11:37] UH THANK YOU.
[11:37] CHAIR.
[11:38] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING
[11:39] HERE.
[11:39] UH, GOOD TO SEE YOU,
[11:40] SUPERINTENDENT.
[11:41] ME?
[11:41] UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE
[11:43] TO THE CITY OF BOSTON AND ALL,
[11:44] UM, OF THE PEOPLE WHO WORK UH
[11:48] INDIVIDUALS WHO WORK UM,
[11:49] ALONGSIDE OF YOU.
[11:51] UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I
[11:54] KNOW A LOT OF OTHER COUNCILORS
[11:55] ,UM, HAVE, UH, BROUGHT UP
[11:59] AROUND HOW DO WE GET MORE
[12:01] SERVICES AND RESOURCES TO HELP
[12:03] THOSE RESIDENTS WHO ARE LIVING
[12:05] ON PRIVATE WAVES?
[12:07] UH, A LOT OF RESIDENTS BUY INTO
[12:10] PRIVATE WAYS NOT KNOWING THAT
[12:11] THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE NOT ONLY
[12:13] FOR THE RESURFACING OF THE
[12:16] STREETS, SIDEWALKS BUT
[12:18] EVERYTHING ELSE ON THE GROUND
[12:20] AND BRINGING IT UP TO CODE UH,
[12:22] WHICH COULD INCLUDE STREET
[12:24] LIGHTS.
[12:25] UM, AND THAT COST CAN BE UP TO
[12:29] UM, SIX FIGURES UM FOR
[12:31] RESIDENTS.
[12:32] SO WE REALLY ARE TRYING TO FIND
[12:33] WAYS ON HOW TO MAKE THESE ROADS
[12:36] THAT ARE USED BY MORE THAN THE
[12:38] INDIVIDUALS THAT WE LIVE ON THE
[12:40] STREET.
[12:41] UM.
[12:43] EASIER TO USE UM AND RESURFACE
[12:46] AND BRING THEM A LITTLE BIT
[12:47] MORE RELIEF, UH, TO THEIR
[12:49] PRIVATE WAYS.
[12:50] I KNOW THAT CURRENTLY THERE IS
[12:52] A CITY CODE THAT SAYS THAT YOU
[12:54] KNOW, WE COULD DO SOME
[12:55] PATCHWORK.
[12:55] UM, THIS POINT IT JUST AIMS TO
[12:59] ADD UH, THE WORD ASPHALT UH,
[13:02] INTO THAT UM UM UM, TEMPORARY
[13:05] FIX THAT CITY EMPLOYEES CAN
[13:07] CURRENTLY DO.
[13:08] BUT I WILL ALSO BE LOOKING TO
[13:09] SEE IF ASPHALT IS THE MOST COST
[13:13] EFFECTIVE WAY KNOWING THAT
[13:14] THESE POTHOLES WILL COME BACK
[13:17] UP TO BE RESURFACED YEAR OVER
[13:19] YEAR.
[13:20] SO I'D LOVE TO UH, YOU KNOW,
[13:22] HAVE EVERYONE THOUGHTS I KNOW A
[13:24] CONVERSATION AROUND THE CONSENT
[13:26] DECREE JUST GOT BROUGHT TO ME.
[13:28] SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO
[13:30] BRINGING, UM EVERYONE START
[13:33] TOGETHER TO SEE WHAT KIND
[13:34] OF RELIEF WE COULD DO HERE ON A
[13:36] CITY LEVEL TO RESIDENTS WHO
[13:38] ARE, UM, BEING PLAYED WITH
[13:41] STREETS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN
[13:42] FIXED UM, FOR YEARS.
[13:45] UH, SO THANK YOU CHAIR.
[13:46] THANK YOU TO EVERYONE WHO HAS
[13:47] BEEN HERE.
[13:48] AND YOU GUYS.
[13:49] ALL COUNCILOR FLYNN, YOU HAVE
[13:51] THE FLOOR.
[13:57] BUT THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
[13:59] THANK YOU TO.
[14:01] COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR BRINGING
[14:02] THIS FORWARD CRITICAL ISSUE
[14:06] QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
[14:08] THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE
[14:10] SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON
[14:13] ESPECIALLY ON THE CITY
[14:15] COUNCIL ITS UM QUALITY OF LIFE
[14:17] BASIC CITY SERVICES.
[14:18] I'M ALSO WORKING WITH CHINATOWN
[14:21] RESIDENTS ON ALTHOUGH IT'S
[14:23] SOMEWHAT ON AN UNRELATED BUT
[14:25] IT'S MORE OF A WATER AND SEWER
[14:26] ISSUE AND CHINATOWN AS IT
[14:29] RELATES TO UM, PRIVATE ALLEYS.
[14:31] BUT THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES
[14:34] AS IT RELATES TO MAKING SURE WE
[14:35] FIX UM, POTHOLES, PROVIDE UM,
[14:39] BASIC CITY SERVICES THE BEST WE
[14:40] CAN.
[14:41] UM THANK YOU COUNCIL OVERALL
[14:43] FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND
[14:46] UM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
[14:47] DISCUSSION.
[14:48] THANK YOU EVERYBODY.
[14:48] THANK YOU COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[14:50] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
[14:52] GOOD MORNING MADAM CHAIR AND
[14:54] GOOD MORNING TO EVERYONE.
[14:55] THANK YOU TO COUNCIL OUT FOR
[14:56] THIS FILING.
[14:57] WE'VE HAD A LOT
[14:59] OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT PRIVATE
[14:59] WAYS.
[15:00] WE'VE HAD THEM HERE IN HYDE
[15:01] PARK.
[15:02] SO JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
[15:03] CONVERSATION TO SEE WHAT
[15:04] OF STEPS CAN ACTUALLY BE DONE.
[15:06] I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A LOT
[15:07] OF BACK AND FORTH IN TERMS
[15:08] OF LIKE WHAT'S POSSIBLE IS NOT
[15:09] POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE
[15:10] ARE DRAINAGE ISSUES.
[15:11] LOOKING FORWARD TO THE
[15:12] CONVERSATION.
[15:13] THANK YOU.
[15:15] WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY
[15:16] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD
[15:17] COUNCILOR SHELDON FOR.
[15:19] THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK YOU
[15:21] TO COUNCIL.
[15:22] UH, A LOT OF, UH, ALLEYWAYS AND
[15:23] PRIVATE WAYS ON THE SOUTH END
[15:25] AND WE GET THIS EVERY SO OFTEN.
[15:26] SO, UH.
[15:26] LOOKING FORWARD TO.
[15:27] LEARN WHAT CAN BE DONE AND HOW
[15:29] WE CAN CHANGE IT IN THE FUTURE.
[15:30] UH, APPRECIATE IT COMING
[15:31] FORWARD.
[15:31] THANK YOU.
[15:32] CHAIR.
[15:32] THANK YOU.
[15:33] I JUST WANT TO THANK THE THE
[15:35] FILER AS WELL.
[15:36] I LOOK FORWARD TO THIS
[15:37] CONVERSATION I HAD YOU JUST
[15:38] HAVE AND OBVIOUSLY I LOVE THE
[15:39] IDEA OF THIS I HAVE SOME
[15:41] QUESTIONS ABOUT THE GALLERY AND
[15:43] OWNERSHIP AND LIABILITY.
[15:45] SO UM.
[15:46] LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION
[15:47] AND AND SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE
[15:48] THIS A REALITY.
[15:49] CHARLESTOWN IN PARTICULAR IS
[15:50] JUST AT THE A LOT OF PRIVATE
[15:53] WAYS THAT WERE HORSE CARRIAGE
[15:55] UM THAT UH WHOLE UM UH JUST
[15:59] AVENUES I GUESS I DON'T EVEN
[16:00] KNOW THE RIGHT WORD FOR IT BUT
[16:01] JUST WHERE WE'RE DEALING WITH
[16:02] THIS IN CHARLESTOWN AND EAST
[16:04] BOSTON AND UM, LOOK FORWARD TO
[16:06] UNDERSTANDING HOW WE CAN MAKE
[16:07] THIS A REALITY.
[16:07] BUT FOR NOW WE'LL GO TO
[16:09] SUPERINTENDENT LEE FOR ANY
[16:10] OPENING REMARKS HE MAY HAVE AND
[16:11] THEN WE'LL GO TO QUESTIONS.
[16:12] SO, UM, DANIEL, YOU HAVE THE
[16:14] FLOOR.
[16:15] THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
[16:16] THANK YOU COUNCILORS.
[16:17] UH, HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY TO
[16:19] ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
[16:20] UM, REGARDING UH.
[16:23] UH.
[16:24] PRIVATE WAYS TO THE BEST
[16:25] OF MY ABILITY UM, AS A PRIVATE
[16:29] WAY RESIDENT UM, SINCE.
[16:31] 1978 I FEEL A LOT OF THE PAIN
[16:33] GOING ON, BUT, UM, HAVE A TON
[16:36] OF INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME.
[16:37] HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS
[16:38] THAT YOU GUYS MAY HAVE.
[16:41] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[16:42] AND JUST A.
[16:42] QUICK QUESTION.
[16:43] ARE YOU, UM ON THE PICK?
[16:46] I AM NOT NO.
[16:47] OKAY.
[16:47] ALL RIGHT.
[16:48] I JUST WANTED TO SEE BECAUSE I
[16:49] THINK A LOT.
[16:49] OF QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE MAY
[16:51] INVOLVE THE PICK BUT YEAH I
[16:53] DID.
[16:53] I DID ABOUT FOUR HOURS
[16:54] OF PREP WITH THE PICK YESTERDAY
[16:56] SO.
[16:56] OKAY GREAT.
[16:57] GREAT.
[16:58] I'M NOT AN EXPERT.
[16:59] I HAVE NEWFOUND KNOWLEDGE THAT
[17:00] I'M WILLING TO SHARE.
[17:02] OKAY GREAT.
[17:03] ALL RIGHT.
[17:04] UM.
[17:04] SO WE'LL JUST GO TO.
[17:05] THE LEAD SPONSOR FOR UM,
[17:07] QUESTIONS AND WE'LL DO SIX.
[17:09] MINUTES OF QUESTIONS FOR
[17:10] EACH.
[17:10] WHEN, UM, I PUT MY HAND UP.
[17:12] THAT'S WHERE YOU HAVE ONE
[17:14] MINUTE.
[17:14] UM, BUT FOR NOW I'LL JUST.
[17:15] GO.
[17:16] TO COUNCILOR WORRELL.
[17:20] THANK YOU.
[17:21] CHAIR.
[17:21] UM THANK.
[17:22] YOU SUPERINTENDENT.
[17:23] ANY NEW QUESTIONS CURRENTLY
[17:25] RIGHT NOW.
[17:26] WHAT TYPE OF TEMPORARY
[17:27] REPAIRS?
[17:27] WHAT ANY REPAIRS DO WE
[17:30] CURRENTLY.
[17:30] DO ON PRIVATE WORKS?
[17:32] UM, SO TEMPORARY REPAIRS IT
[17:34] USUALLY GETS LISTED AS A
[17:36] POTHOLE.
[17:36] UM.
[17:37] IT YOU KNOW, I THINK INTERNALLY
[17:39] WE SEPARATE POTHOLES FROM
[17:41] ROADWAY DEFECTS.
[17:42] POTHOLE IS A TYPE OF A ROADWAY
[17:43] DEFECT.
[17:44] BUT, UM, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, YOUR
[17:46] OFFICES REACH OUT TO US AND
[17:47] WE'RE ABLE TO GO OUT.
[17:49] UM, WE TEND TO USE ASPHALT.
[17:51] UH, WE TEND TO USE LIKE, UH,
[17:53] MATERIALS.
[17:54] SO IF IT'S AN ASPHALT PRIVATE
[17:56] WAY WE WILL USE ASPHALT.
[17:58] UM UH OTHER PLACES IF IT'S
[18:00] GRAVEL WE WILL USE GRAVEL OR
[18:02] UM, YOU KNOW, UH, CLEANED
[18:04] MAILINGS FROM WHEN WE RESURFACE
[18:05] YOU TAKE THE UM THE ASPHALT
[18:08] THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED AND THEY
[18:09] ,YOU KNOW, SCREED IT AND TAKE
[18:11] OUT LARGER CHUNKS AND WE CAN
[18:12] USE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY TO
[18:15] MATCH LIKE MATERIAL EXISTING
[18:17] MATERIAL.
[18:18] GOT IT.
[18:18] AND I KNOW, UH, THIS
[18:20] ORDINANCE IS CALLING FOR, YOU
[18:23] KNOW, FILLING THE POTHOLES.
[18:26] UM, I'VE TALKED TO A FEW
[18:27] DIFFERENT, UM, UH, EMPLOYEES
[18:31] FROM PUBLIC WORKS AND YOU KNOW,
[18:33] THEY'RE YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE
[18:34] ARE SAYING WELL, YOU KNOW,
[18:35] WE'LL HAVE TO REFILL THE
[18:37] POTHOLES EVERY OTHER YEAR,
[18:39] RIGHT?
[18:39] UM, WHAT WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHT
[18:41] AROUND FILLING THAT POTHOLE
[18:44] VERSUS RESURFACING THE STREET
[18:46] JUST ALTOGETHER?
[18:49] SO ON CITY STREET RESURFACING
[18:50] IS THE MUCH BETTER OPTION,
[18:52] RIGHT?
[18:53] UM, TYPICALLY THERE'S AN
[18:54] UNDERLYING PROBLEM THAT'S
[18:55] CAUSING THE POTHOLE OR ROADWAY
[18:57] DEFECTS.
[18:58] UM.
[18:59] AS IT PERTAINS TO PRIVATE
[19:01] WAYS WHERE THERE HAS BEEN, YOU
[19:03] KNOW, MINIMAL MAINTENANCE
[19:05] THROUGHOUT THE YEARS.
[19:07] UM, YOU KNOW, WATER IS THE
[19:08] NUMBER ONE SOURCE, THE NUMBER
[19:10] ONE PROBLEM, UH, WHERE THERE'S
[19:11] ANY TYPE OF DRAINAGE OR RUNOFF
[19:13] UM, LACK OF CATCH BASINS ON
[19:15] PRIVATE WAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND
[19:18] WHOEVER YOU SPOKE TO WAS WAS
[19:20] 100% RIGHT.
[19:21] YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE THERE'S
[19:22] THE LIST OF ALLEYS THAT WE HIT
[19:23] KIND OF EVERY YEAR AND THE SAME
[19:25] ONES THE SAME SPOTS.
[19:26] UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTS AREN'T
[19:28] HAPPY WITH JUST A BAND-AID
[19:30] REPAIR BUT THAT'S YOU KNOW,
[19:31] UNFORTUNATELY, UH, THERE IS A
[19:33] STATE LAW UM, I KNOW
[19:35] COUNCILOR APOLOGIST UH,
[19:36] REFERRED TO IT BUT THERE IS A
[19:37] STATE LAW THAT, UH, PROHIBITS
[19:39] US FROM USING PUBLIC FUNDS ON
[19:41] PRIVATE PROPERTY AND
[19:42] TECHNICALLY, UH, PRIVATE WAY IS
[19:44] PRIVATE PROPERTY.
[19:46] HOWEVER, IN THE INTEREST
[19:47] OF PUBLIC SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW,
[19:50] WE WE WILL GOD FORBID WE
[19:52] WOULDN'T WANT A LADDER TRUCK OR
[19:53] AN AMBULANCE TO NOT BE ABLE TO
[19:55] GET SOMEWHERE BECAUSE OF, YOU
[19:56] KNOW, UM, BAD ROADWAYS.
[19:59] SO THAT'S THE.
[20:00] UH.
[20:01] HOW WE FEEL COMFORTABLE
[20:04] POTENTIALLY ACTUALLY BREAKING A
[20:05] LAW AND DOING REPAIRS.
[20:07] UM, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO, UH
[20:10] ,BE ARRESTED FOR THAT AT SOME
[20:11] POINT IF NEED BE, BUT YOU KNOW.
[20:15] IDEALLY WE WOULD WANT
[20:17] RESURFACING A FULL RECORD
[20:18] OF ALL THESE YOU KNOW, THESE
[20:19] ROADWAYS HAVEN'T BEEN TOUCHED,
[20:20] YOU KNOW, SINCE THE 1800S.
[20:22] UM, IDEALLY YOU WOULD LIKE TO
[20:25] HAVE FULL RECONSTRUCTION.
[20:27] BUT AGAIN IT'S PRIVATE PROPERTY
[20:30] SO THAT'S WHERE WE THAT THAT'S
[20:31] WHERE THE THE ISSUE LIES.
[20:33] GOT IT.
[20:34] AND I MEAN I'VE RECEIVED.
[20:36] UH A LOT OF UH EMAILS AND HEARD
[20:39] A LOT OF COMPLAINTS UH FROM
[20:41] RESIDENTS WHEN RESIDENTS.
[20:42] IF THEY WERE TO.
[20:43] AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG IF
[20:45] THEY WERE TO RESURFACE THE
[20:48] STREET THEN THEY HAVE TO DO NOT
[20:50] ONLY RESURFACING ON THE STREET
[20:51] BUT BRINGING THAT STREET UP TO
[20:53] CODE.
[20:55] SO I THINK SO THAT'S PART
[20:57] OF THAT UH BRINGING IT UP TO
[21:00] CODE THAT'S PART OF THE PICK
[21:00] THE PIKE BETTERMENT PROCESS.
[21:02] UM AND WE WILL BE SENDING A
[21:04] LINK OUT UM DAILY WE'LL BE
[21:05] SENDING A LINK OUT TO EVERYBODY
[21:07] .
[21:07] I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT ALREADY.
[21:09] UM, BUT THAT'S IF RESIDENTS YOU
[21:12] KNOW AND I WOULD HAVE TO BE A
[21:13] MAJORITY OF RESIDENTS WOULD
[21:14] HAVE TO BE A VOTE.
[21:14] YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE MEETINGS
[21:15] WOULD HAVE TO GO ON BUT THAT
[21:17] WOULD BE UM FOR THE CITY TO
[21:19] TAKE OVER OWNERSHIP AND
[21:20] BASICALLY TO MAKE IT FROM A
[21:21] PRIVATE WAY TO A PUBLIC WAY,
[21:22] THEY WOULD HAVE TO BRING THE
[21:24] STREET UP FROM ITS CURRENT
[21:25] CONDITIONS INTO, YOU KNOW, CITY
[21:28] SPECS, UM, YOU KNOW, FULLY
[21:30] ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW,
[21:32] 50, YOU KNOW, 53 53FT OF OF
[21:35] OF WIDTH RIGHT WHICH NOW WE'RE
[21:37] TALKING PROBLEMS HERE ON A LOT
[21:38] OF THESE ALLEYS, UM, YOU KNOW,
[21:41] ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM,
[21:43] DRAINAGE LIGHTING WOULD HAVE TO
[21:44] BE ADDRESSED.
[21:45] WATER AND SEWER HAS THEIR OWN
[21:46] SET OF BETTER BETTERMENT, UH,
[21:48] REGULATIONS.
[21:49] UM, YOU KNOW, IF UH IF THE
[21:52] ABUTTERS GOT TOGETHER AND JUST
[21:54] WANTED TO RESURFACE IT, YOU
[21:55] KNOW, THAT'D BE LESS COSTLY FOR
[21:56] THEM.
[21:57] UM.
[21:58] BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
[21:59] TAKE IT OVER AS A PUBLIC WAY
[22:01] UNLESS THAT CRITERIA IS MET.
[22:05] RIGHT.
[22:05] UM.
[22:06] AND I.
[22:06] GUESS I'M OF THE.
[22:08] MINDSET THAT MOST.
[22:10] OF THESE STREETS.
[22:11] ARE LEADING TO OTHER MAIN
[22:13] THOROUGHFARES OR COMING OFF A
[22:14] MAJOR THOROUGHFARE LIKE THE.
[22:16] WORD PRIVATE.
[22:18] UM FOR ME DOESN'T.
[22:20] MEAN THAT.
[22:21] YOU CAN'T.
[22:22] YOU KNOW.
[22:24] THE PUBLIC CAN'T USE THE
[22:25] STREET.
[22:25] SO I FEEL LIKE THAT ALL PUBLIC
[22:26] ROADS ANYWAY, UM AND I AM
[22:29] OF THE MINDSET THAT THE CITY
[22:30] SHOULD, UM, ALL STREETS AND
[22:32] SIDEWALKS UH, I KNOW THAT THE
[22:34] COST, UM, IS SOMETHING THAT
[22:36] I'VE ALWAYS HEARD CONSTANT
[22:37] PUSHBACK FROM.
[22:39] UM, BUT, UH, I'M HOPING THAT
[22:42] THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION AT
[22:43] LEAST UM, WHETHER IT'S A PUBLIC
[22:46] SAFETY ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S A
[22:47] PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ISSUE BECAUSE
[22:50] WE HAVE RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW,
[22:52] WALKING.
[22:52] DOWN THE.
[22:52] STREET.
[22:53] UM, THAT WE CAN TRY TO FIND
[22:55] A WAY ON HOW TO MAKE AT LEAST
[22:57] SURFACES UM, EVEN UM AND
[23:01] PEDESTRIAN UH UH FRIENDLY AND
[23:03] SAFE.
[23:04] UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THE PUBLIC
[23:08] SAFETY ASPECT OF IT.
[23:10] UH, WHAT.
[23:10] WHAT IS WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD.
[23:12] LIKE WHEN WOULD YOU KNOW
[23:13] PUBLIC WORKS JUMP IN AND SAY
[23:15] HEY THIS THIS THIS NEEDS SOME
[23:17] ATTENTION.
[23:19] SO TYPICALLY WE'LL GET EITHER A
[23:20] CASE VIA 311 OR FROM CITY
[23:23] COUNSELORS OFFICE OR.
[23:24] FROM THE.
[23:25] THE FIFTH FLOOR OWNERS WILL
[23:27] FLAG AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN
[23:28] RAISED TO THEM AND WE'LL GO
[23:29] TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
[23:31] UM YOU KNOW IF IT'S A RIM
[23:33] BUSTER OR SOMETHING THAT'S
[23:34] REALLY BAD, WE'LL GO FIX IT.
[23:36] UM, YOU KNOW, USE TEMPORARY
[23:37] PATCH.
[23:38] UH, WE'LL CATCH IT TEMPORARILY.
[23:39] RIGHT.
[23:39] KNOWING THAT THE ISSUE IS GOING
[23:40] TO POP UP AGAIN 99% OF THE TIME
[23:43] IT'S WATER RELATED, RIGHT?
[23:44] YOU KNOW, WATER CARVED OUT THE
[23:46] GRAND CANYON.
[23:47] SO YOU KNOW OUR PRIVATE IS IN
[23:49] ALLEYS AREN'T AREN'T ANY MATCH
[23:51] FOR IT BUT BASICALLY HOW BAD IS
[23:53] THE POTHOLE?
[23:54] UM YOU KNOW I THINK UH IN
[23:57] COUNCIL IT DEPENDS DISTRICT IS
[23:57] THAT SOME UP IN SUMMIT STREET
[23:59] THERE THAT'S KIND OF JUST TOO
[24:02] FAR GONE FOR ANY TYPE
[24:03] OF TEMPORARY REPAIR.
[24:04] UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST IT'S
[24:06] JUST YEARS AND YEARS OF NEGLECT
[24:08] .
[24:08] UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THROWING SOME
[24:11] ASPHALT INTO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE
[24:12] WOULDN'T WE WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE
[24:14] TO DO IT BECAUSE IT'S.
[24:15] JUST IT'S.
[24:16] JUST TOO LARGE.
[24:16] BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND
[24:19] OF WE SEND A SUPERVISOR OUT TO
[24:21] TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND I'LL SAY
[24:22] YES, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YES
[24:23] THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE A
[24:24] PROBLEM FOR AN AMBULANCE OR
[24:25] SOMETHING OR NO, THIS IS, YOU
[24:27] KNOW, MINOR AND COSMETIC AND
[24:29] YOU KNOW THE THE ABOUT IT IS
[24:30] REALLY NEED TO TO TO STEP UP
[24:32] HERE AND FIX IT.
[24:32] GOT IT MY MY LAST QUESTION I
[24:35] SEE THE HAND RAISED IS AND YOU
[24:37] KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE STATE
[24:38] LAW UM YOU KNOW THE LEGALITY
[24:42] OF TOUCHING THE STREET AND THE
[24:43] LIABILITY LIKE WHAT NEGATIVE
[24:45] IMPACTS.
[24:45] WOULD YOU SEE.
[24:49] IN RESURFACING UM A PRIVATE WAY
[24:51] LIKE WHAT WHAT IS SOMETHING
[24:53] THAT WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED
[24:54] ABOUT IF PUBLIC WORKS WAS TO
[24:57] JUST RESURFACE A PRIVATE WAY?
[25:01] UM, WELL NEGATIVE IMPACTS I
[25:03] GUESS AT THIS POINT WITH THE
[25:05] STATE LAW AS IT IS IT WOULD BE
[25:06] ILLEGAL.
[25:07] YOU KNOW.
[25:08] WHAT IS IT WHAT LIKE WHAT IS
[25:10] COULD YOU'VE GONE IN THERE.
[25:12] YOU SAID PUBLIC SAFETY LIKE.
[25:14] WHAT IS IT?
[25:14] I HAVEN'T READ THE LAW.
[25:15] IN FULL.
[25:16] I'M AWARE OF IT BUT WHAT ARE
[25:17] THE CONSEQUENCES.
[25:19] I DON'T KNOW UM OKAY.
[25:21] IT'S CAUSED US TO CAUSE US TO
[25:23] KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE DO.
[25:24] I THINK THERE'S A THRESHOLD YOU
[25:25] CAN ONLY DO UP TO 25%.
[25:27] NO, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST
[25:28] ROADWAY AND SIDEWALKS ARE
[25:29] THAT'S PART OF THAT 20 I DON'T
[25:31] KNOW WHAT THAT 25% IS.
[25:33] IS THAT THE WHOLE COST OF UH,
[25:35] RECORDING THE YOU KNOW, THE
[25:36] DRAINAGE AND LIGHTING AND
[25:37] UTILITY MOVEMENT AND WHATEVER
[25:39] ELSE THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW,
[25:40] UM, UH CONSTRUCTION IF THAT'S
[25:42] ALL INTO THAT 25% UM, YOU KNOW,
[25:46] WE'RE STILL GOING TO OPERATE ON
[25:47] IF A FIRE TRUCK OR AN AMBULANCE
[25:48] CAN GET THERE, YOU KNOW,
[25:50] QUICKLY AND SAFELY THAT'S
[25:52] THAT'S KIND OF OUR THRESHOLD
[25:54] NOW AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE
[25:55] PROBABLY GOING TO MAINTAIN AS
[25:56] FAR AS THE HIGHWAY YOU KNOW,
[25:57] HIGHWAY DIVISION GOES UM, YOU
[26:00] KNOW, I THINK IN ORDER TO TO TO
[26:03] RESURFACE THAT'S A LARGER
[26:04] CONVERSATION THAT'S PROBABLY
[26:05] GONNA HAVE TO INVOLVE LEGAL AND
[26:06] ENGINEERING.
[26:07] UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BUT WE'LL
[26:10] STILL YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS FOR
[26:13] ACCESS FOR, YOU KNOW, UH,
[26:14] PUBLIC SAFETY.
[26:15] ALL RIGHT.
[26:17] THANK YOU FOR.
[26:18] BEING KIND.
[26:18] OF.
[26:18] BROUGHT.
[26:21] THANK YOU.
[26:21] UM, COUNCILOR FLYNN AND.
[26:22] OH, I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE
[26:23] YOU'VE BEEN JOINED BY
[26:24] COUNCILOR WEBER.
[26:25] AND GO AHEAD.
[26:26] COUNCIL FOR.
[26:29] THE MORNING.
[26:29] DO YOU.
[26:30] WANT TO COUNCIL?
[26:33] SAY, UM, AGAIN WANT TO THANK
[26:39] COUNCILOR?
[26:42] DANN?
[26:43] TELL ME WHAT THE THE PROCESS IS
[26:46] OR THE PROCESS OF FILLING THE
[26:48] POTHOLE.
[26:50] SO AND I KNOW IT'S WE'RE
[26:52] TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE PRIVATE
[26:54] AREAS BUT.
[26:55] CITY WIDE WHETHER IT'S PRIVATE
[26:58] OR NO LET'S START WITH PUBLIC.
[27:00] JUST TELL ME THE PROCESS WHEN
[27:01] IT COMES INTO UM THE 311 APP
[27:04] HOW DOES TELL ME THE PROCESS
[27:06] FROM THEN HOW HOW IT ACTUALLY
[27:08] GETS DONE FILLING THE POTHOLE.
[27:10] SURE.
[27:11] SO A CASE WILL COME IN AS
[27:12] POTHOLE UM AND I ADVOCATED SO
[27:13] WE JUST WE JUST OVERHAULED OUR
[27:15] OUR BACK OFFICE THREE UM.
[27:16] SYSTEM AND I ADVOCATED STRONGLY
[27:19] TO GET IT CHANGED FROM POTHOLE
[27:21] TO ROADWAY DEFECT I WAS
[27:23] OVERRULED.
[27:24] UM.
[27:25] BUT YOU KNOW, A POTHOLE IS A
[27:26] TYPE OF ROLE THAT.
[27:27] SEEMS IN THE.
[27:30] GENERAL PUBLIC DOESN'T DOESN'T
[27:31] CREATE SO THEY'LL JUST CREATE A
[27:33] POTHOLE.
[27:33] CASE AND COME INTO THE.
[27:35] DISTRICT YARD.
[27:36] SO TAKE.
[27:36] A LOOK AT IT WHERE SOMEBODY HAS
[27:37] BACKGROUND NOISE IF YOU CAN UM
[27:39] MUTE THAT UH I WOULD APPRECIATE
[27:41] IT BECAUSE I CAN'T REALLY HEAR
[27:42] TO.
[27:42] PROTECT UH, YOU UM IT WILL COME
[27:46] UP IN CONVERSATION IN TEXT
[27:49] MESSAGES.
[27:50] COUNCILOR QUINN.
[27:52] HE IS, UH, MADAM CHAIR.
[27:54] I THINK YOU UM YOU HAVE UH YOU
[27:55] HAVE BACKGROUND NOISE.
[27:57] UM.
[27:58] UM, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
[27:59] JUST MUTING YOURSELF.
[27:59] SORRY.
[28:00] YEAH.
[28:00] THANK YOU.
[28:01] IT'S VERY OKAY.
[28:04] BUT FOR NOW.
[28:05] I I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING
[28:07] COMING OVER.
[28:08] OKAY.
[28:13] SO WE'LL GET A CASE FOR A
[28:14] POTHOLE.
[28:15] UM, IT'LL COME IN TO THE
[28:16] DISTRICT YARD SUPERVISOR.
[28:17] UM, IF THERE'S A PICTURE
[28:18] ATTACHED, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE
[28:20] TO DIFFERENTIATE WHETHER IT'S A
[28:22] POTHOLE.
[28:22] UM, UTILITY CASTING ISSUE,
[28:25] UTILITY, UH, CUT ISSUE, UM, YOU
[28:28] KNOW, OR SOMETHING ELSE WHERE
[28:30] IT DOESN'T GET HANDLED BY THE
[28:31] HIGHWAY DIVISION.
[28:32] UM, IF IT'S DEEMED TO BE OURS
[28:34] AND WE OWN IT, UM, IT'LL BE,
[28:36] YOU KNOW, ADDED TO A PATCH LIST
[28:39] FOR THE NEXT TIME THAT THEY'RE
[28:40] OUT PATCHING TYPICALLY THIS
[28:41] TIME OF YEAR GOES PATCHING
[28:43] MAYBE ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK.
[28:45] UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE IN MARCH
[28:47] AND APRIL, UM, THEY'RE PATCHING
[28:49] PRETTY MUCH EVERY DAY.
[28:51] UM, SO WE'LL GO OUT AND PATCH
[28:53] IT UM, IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY
[28:55] UM, CASE IS USUALLY YOU KNOW,
[28:58] DEPENDING ON HOW IT LOOK IF
[28:59] THERE'S A PICTURE DEPENDING ON
[29:00] HOW IT LOOKS.
[29:00] CASE IS USUALLY CLOSED AS YOU
[29:02] KNOW, PRIVATE WAY.
[29:03] UM, ABUTTERS ARE RESPONSIBLE
[29:04] FOR REPAIRS NOW IT CAN BE
[29:07] CLOSED THAT WAY.
[29:08] AND IF THE SUPERVISOR DEEMS
[29:09] THAT HEY, THIS IS GOING TO
[29:11] CAUSE A PROBLEM IF AN AMBULANCE
[29:12] TRIES TO GET DOWN HERE OR A
[29:13] LADDER TRUCK OR EVEN IF WE USE
[29:16] IT TO COLLECT UH TO ACCESS FOR
[29:17] TRASH COLLECTION FOR
[29:18] RESIDENTIAL TRASH COLLECTION
[29:19] THEY'LL GO PATCH IT.
[29:21] HOWEVER, THE RESIDENT WILL
[29:22] STILL GET THE NOTIFICATION VIA
[29:23] THE APP THAT UM YOU KNOW IT'S A
[29:27] PRIVATE WAY ABUTTERS ARE
[29:28] RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS.
[29:30] OKAY.
[29:31] DAN, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME.
[29:35] THEN AS I MENTIONED IN MY
[29:37] OPENING, I'M WORKING WITH
[29:39] CHINATOWN RESIDENTS ON AN ISSUE
[29:41] AS IT RELATES TO A PRIVATE WAY
[29:43] UM WITH WITH THE WATER AND
[29:45] SEWER RELATED ISSUES.
[29:47] UM, BUT HOW DOES HOW DOES
[29:50] PUBLIC WORKS WORK WITH UM
[29:53] BOSTON WATER AND SEWER ON THESE
[29:56] TYPES OF ISSUES?
[29:57] IS THERE UM.
[30:02] IS DO YOU HAVE TO COORDINATE UM
[30:05] LOGISTICALLY WHEN TO DO PLOT
[30:07] HOLES BUT IS THERE OPPORTUNITY
[30:09] TO DO WORK WITH WATER AND SEWER
[30:13] AT THE SAME TIME OR ARE THEY
[30:15] SEPARATE ISSUES?
[30:18] SO IF IT'S.
[30:18] JUST A SURFACE POTHOLE ON
[30:19] OUR ROADWAYS VERY YOU KNOW WE
[30:21] DON'T NEED TO COORDINATE WITH
[30:22] WATER AND SEWER.
[30:23] UM, CERTAINLY IN THE SPRING
[30:25] TIME A LOT OF THE ISSUES ON OUR
[30:27] PUBLIC ROADWAYS ARE DEFECTS
[30:30] AROUND UH, CATCH BASINS AND
[30:32] WATER SHUT OFFS, UM, AND ALL
[30:34] THE OTHER UTILITIES.
[30:34] I'M NOT SAYING THEY'RE NOT
[30:35] WATER AND SEWER, BUT IF WE GET
[30:36] A CASE FOR THAT WE'LL JUST, UH
[30:38] ,REALLOCATED OVER TO, UM,
[30:40] WATER AND SEWER.
[30:41] AS YOU KNOW, THEY'RE
[30:42] RESPONSIBLE FOR REPAIRS WITHIN
[30:44] 30IN OF ANY OF THEIR
[30:45] INFRASTRUCTURE.
[30:46] SO ALL UTILITIES OR ANY
[30:47] OF THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE
[30:48] MANHOLES SHUT OFFS, UM, YOU
[30:51] KNOW, PULL BOXES THEY'RE
[30:52] RESPONSIBLE FOR 30IN AROUND
[30:54] EACH UM YOU KNOW, EACH ASSET.
[30:58] OKAY.
[31:00] SO THE CUT PHASE AND I THEY
[31:04] ALWAYS ON UH PUBLIC PROPERTY OR
[31:08] DO YOU HAVE MANY THAT ARE UM ON
[31:10] PRIVATE.
[31:11] MOST ARE ON PUBLIC.
[31:12] THERE ARE SOME UM IN PRIVATE
[31:15] WAYS.
[31:16] SOME ARE OWNED BY WATER AND
[31:17] SEWER.
[31:18] SOME ARE ACTUALLY PRIVATE
[31:19] DRAINS.
[31:20] OKAY OKAY.
[31:23] IN IN A.
[31:25] ONE ISSUE I'M ALWAYS THINKING
[31:27] ABOUT IS ON BEACH STREET BUT
[31:30] WHEN WHEN THE ROAD YOU KNOW
[31:34] MAYBE IT'S POORLY DESIGNED YOU
[31:36] KNOW GOING BACK 7080 YEARS UM
[31:42] BUT IF THE WATER IF THE WATER.
[31:45] CONTINUES TO BE IN THE CATCH.
[31:49] BASIN AFTER AFTER A RAINSTORM.
[31:51] AND THERE NEEDS TO BE.
[31:54] IMPROVEMENTS UM, HOW DOES HOW
[31:58] DOES THAT PROCESS WORK WHERE.
[32:00] YOU NEED TO YOU NEED.
[32:02] TO WORK ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE
[32:04] AND AROUND THE CATCH BASIN BUT
[32:06] WORKING WITH WATER AND SEWER
[32:08] AND AND PUBLIC WORKS AS WELL IS
[32:11] THAT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU SAY
[32:13] YEAH.
[32:13] SO WE'LL GET CASES FOR PUDDLES
[32:15] I THINK WHEN WE STARTED DOING
[32:17] UM PEDESTRIAN BUMP OUTS FOR
[32:18] RAMPS WE RAN INTO A LOT
[32:21] OF PROBLEMS.
[32:22] UM THAT'S A REGRADING ISSUE
[32:23] THAT WE CAN ADDRESS VIA UM YOU
[32:25] KNOW, RESURFACING NORMAN PARKS
[32:26] AND HIS CREW OVER AT UM AN
[32:29] ENGINEERING YOU KNOW, THEY CAN
[32:30] COME IN UH, I THINK LET'S SAY
[32:32] EAST SPRINGFIELD AT HARRISON
[32:34] WAS ONE THEY DID LAST YEAR.
[32:35] THAT WAS A BIG ONE.
[32:36] UM.
[32:38] IF YOU.
[32:38] KNOW THE CATCH BASIN ISN'T
[32:39] TAKING WATER, THAT WOULD BE A
[32:41] WATER AND SEWER ISSUE.
[32:42] UM, AND THERE'S MULTIPLE THINGS
[32:44] THAT THEY CAN DO.
[32:44] THEY CAN CLEAN THE ACTUAL CATCH
[32:45] BASIN.
[32:46] THEY CAN CHECK THE LATERAL
[32:47] PIPES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE
[32:48] TAKING WATER.
[32:49] UM, YOU KNOW, UM THAT'S REALLY
[32:53] KIND OF THE THE TRUTH THE TWO
[32:54] BIGGEST FIXES FOR THAT I MEAN A
[32:56] SIMPLE THING WOULD BE JUST TO
[32:58] CREATE A311 CASE AND JUST KIND
[32:59] OF OUTLINE WHAT'S HAPPENING
[33:00] THAT WATER IS BEING HELD OR THE
[33:02] CATCH BASIN ISN'T.
[33:04] TAKING WATER.
[33:05] INTO MY FINAL QUESTION.
[33:08] SO ENGINEERING IS.
[33:09] ALSO PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
[33:11] ENGINEERING AT WATER AND SEWER
[33:13] ENGINEERING THEY'RE PUBLIC
[33:14] WORKS BUT ALSO YOU MENTIONED
[33:16] LEGAL SO THEY'RE ALL PART
[33:19] OF DISCUSSIONS AS RELATES TO UH
[33:22] PRIVATE ALLEYS.
[33:23] SO IS THAT ACCURATE?
[33:25] UM SO IF YOU'RE REFERRING TO
[33:26] EACH LIKE INDIVIDUAL 311 CASE
[33:28] USUALLY NO THAT'S HANDLED ON
[33:29] THE HIGHWAY LEVEL AND WITH THE
[33:31] SUPERVISOR UM AND LIKE I SAID
[33:33] WE DON'T WE WE WE ADVISE THE
[33:35] UM.
[33:36] CONSTITUENT THAT UNFORTUNATELY
[33:38] REPAIRS ARE ON THE A BUTTER AND
[33:40] IF WE DEEM NECESSARY FOR PUBLIC
[33:43] SAFETY WE WILL GO FIX IT WHILE.
[33:45] STILL.
[33:45] CLOSING THE CASE THAT WE'RE NOT
[33:46] GOING TO FIX IT.
[33:47] UM, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE
[33:49] WHEN THEY CREATE THE 311 MAYBE
[33:51] THEY'VE BEEN MISLED BY A REAL
[33:52] ESTATE AGENT.
[33:53] SHOCKING.
[33:54] UM OR THEY JUST DON'T
[33:55] UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE ON A
[33:56] PRIVATE WAY AND THEY SEE THIS
[33:58] THEY SEE THE ROAD IN FRONT
[33:59] OF THE HOUSE.
[33:59] IT LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR STREET,
[34:00] RIGHT?
[34:00] ACTS AS A REGULAR STREET.
[34:01] UM, AND THEY SAY WELL THIS IS
[34:03] TERRIBLE.
[34:03] THIS NEEDS TO GET FIXED.
[34:04] THE CITY SHOULD BE FIXING IT I
[34:05] PAY TAXES HOWEVER THERE IS THAT
[34:08] THE STATE LAW WE CAN'T USE
[34:10] PUBLIC FUNDS TO FIX PRIVATE
[34:11] PROPERTY.
[34:12] UM.
[34:13] YOU KNOW SO.
[34:14] SO THERE IS A YOU KNOW, A BIT
[34:17] OF CONFUSION ON THAT, YOU KNOW
[34:19] THE THE THE BETTERMENT PROCESS.
[34:21] YEP.
[34:21] ENGINEERING IS FULLY INVOLVED.
[34:23] YOU KNOW THEY TAKE THE LEAD
[34:24] THEY RUN THE ASSESSMENT THEY
[34:25] THEY DO THE SURVEY.
[34:26] YOU KNOW THAT'S IF WE GET UM
[34:29] YOU KNOW YOU KNOW THE CORRECT
[34:31] NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE
[34:32] PETITION I THINK WE NEED OVER
[34:33] 50% OF HOMEOWNERS TO AGREE TO
[34:37] UM FOR BETTERMENT.
[34:38] UM, AND THEN THERE'S A WHOLE
[34:39] PROCESS THERE THAT GOES ON.
[34:40] I MEAN, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN
[34:42] IN THE PAST 15 YEARS THERE'S
[34:44] ONLY BEEN FOUR STREETS THAT
[34:45] HAVE THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THE
[34:47] PROCESS.
[34:48] OKAY, OKAY.
[34:49] MADAM CHAIR, I.
[34:50] WAS.
[34:51] GOING TO.
[34:51] ASK ONE MORE QUESTION BUT I
[34:52] DIDN'T WANT TO ASK IF, UM, MY
[34:53] TIME IS UP OR WITHOUT
[34:55] PERMISSION.
[34:56] I THINK YOU KNOW, YOU CAN, UM,
[34:58] ASK.
[34:58] OKAY.
[34:59] IT'LL BE A BRIEF QUESTION.
[35:00] SO DAN, IF IF IF PUBLIC.
[35:03] WORKS DOES FIX THE POTHOLE ON A
[35:05] PRIVATE STREETS.
[35:06] THE THE RESIDENTS.
[35:08] MOST LIKELY ARE RESPONSIBLE
[35:10] FOR.
[35:10] PAYING PAYING.
[35:11] FOR HOW.
[35:12] DO THEY GET A BILL.
[35:14] UM THE DO THEY.
[35:16] DO THEY THEY JUST.
[35:17] GOT A BILL IN THE MAIL FROM
[35:18] PUBLIC WORKS OR DID IT.
[35:21] DOES THE.
[35:22] OWNER OF THE PROPERTY LISTED
[35:23] GET A BILL?
[35:25] JUST JUST TELL ME THE LOGISTICS
[35:26] OF THAT PLACE.
[35:28] SO IF WE FIX.
[35:28] A POTHOLE WE DO NOT BILL UM
[35:30] WE'RE FIXING THE POTHOLE UNDER
[35:31] THE GUISE THAT WE NEED TO, YOU
[35:33] KNOW, HAVE ACCESS FOR
[35:36] AMBULANCES, FIRE TRUCKS THAT
[35:37] THAT TYPE OF THING.
[35:38] UM, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TALKING
[35:40] ABOUT IS IF THEY WERE TO GO
[35:41] THROUGH THE THE BETTERMENT
[35:42] PROCESS WHERE PUBLIC WORKS COME
[35:44] IN AND JUST DID THE WHOLE RECON
[35:45] RIGHT ADDED THE PUBLIC, YOU
[35:46] KNOW, ACCESSIBLE SIDEWALKS, UM
[35:49] ,RESURFACED THEN THERE WOULD
[35:50] BE AN ASSESSMENT CALCULATED.
[35:52] THEY WOULD.
[35:53] KNOW THAT.
[35:54] BEFORE THEY AGREED TO TO MOVE
[35:55] FORWARD.
[35:56] I BELIEVE I'M GETTING A IT'S
[35:58] NOT MY I SPENT SOME TIME THIS
[36:00] WEEK LEARNING ABOUT IT BUT I
[36:02] BELIEVE THERE'S A YOU KNOW.
[36:03] THERE'S THE THERE'S.
[36:04] THE VOTE TO THERE'S THE
[36:05] PETITION THEN THERE'S THE VOTE
[36:06] AMONGST ALL THE THE RESIDENTS
[36:08] THEN ENGINEERING WILL DO A
[36:10] SURVEY AND SAY OKAY GENERALLY
[36:11] IT'S GOING TO COST THIS AMOUNT
[36:13] AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER PUBLIC
[36:14] MEETING AFTER THAT.
[36:17] SO OKAY WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY
[36:18] GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
[36:19] THAT'S HOW IT'S OUTLINED TO ME.
[36:20] IT WAS OUTLINED TO ME.
[36:22] OKAY EXCELLENT.
[36:23] UH THANK YOU DAN THANK YOU
[36:24] MADAM CHAIR FOR GIVING ME AN
[36:25] EXTRA MINUTE.
[36:27] UH THANK YOU.
[36:28] I DON'T SEE COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE
[36:29] ON THE CALL ANYMORE.
[36:30] UM, SO WE WILL GO TO
[36:33] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD AND THEN
[36:34] COUNCILOR WEBER.
[36:36] THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
[36:38] UH, AND THANK YOU, DAVE FOR
[36:39] BEING HERE WITH US TODAY.
[36:41] UM.
[36:42] IF WE WERE TO TAKE OVER
[36:43] EVERY STREET IF.
[36:44] THIS WERE TO PASS AND SAY EVERY
[36:45] PRIVATE WAY BECOMES OWNED BY BY
[36:47] UH BY STREETS BUT BY THE CITY,
[36:50] UM, HOW MANY MORE PEOPLE WOULD
[36:51] WE HAVE TO ADD DO YOU THINK
[36:53] MAYBE I I PROBABLY YOU PROBABLY
[36:54] HAVE AN EXACT AMOUNT BUT A
[36:55] GUESSTIMATE OF LIKE HOW MANY
[36:56] MORE EMPLOYEES WOULD THAT TAKE
[36:58] AND WHAT WOULD WHAT WOULD.
[36:59] SORT OF A BALLPARK.
[37:01] COST BE TO TAKE THAT ON?
[37:04] BECAUSE THAT'S SORT OF TO
[37:05] ME THAT BRIGHT IDEA.
[37:06] TO THAT QUESTION.
[37:07] BUT TO ME THAT'S THE CRUX
[37:08] OF THIS, RIGHT.
[37:08] LIKE WE COULD DO THIS BUT LIKE
[37:10] AT WHAT COST DOES IT COME AND
[37:11] ARE WE ABLE TO FILL THAT AND
[37:13] THE AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES HEALTH
[37:15] CARE, PENSIONS ETC. THAT WOULD
[37:17] GO ALONG WITH THAT?
[37:18] YEAH I MEAN AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES
[37:21] CERTAINLY ENGINEER ENGINEERING
[37:23] IS UNDERSTAFFED AS IT IS AS
[37:24] THEY ARE AT MOST YOU KNOW MOST
[37:26] DIVISIONS AT THIS POINT.
[37:26] BUT YEAH, IT WOULD BE A LOT UM
[37:31] I COULD TRY TO MAYBE TALK TO
[37:33] SOME FOLKS OVER IN ENGINEERING.
[37:34] UM I MEAN THE AMOUNT OF WORK
[37:36] THAT WOULD NEED TO BE DONE
[37:37] ADDING SIDEWALKS AND MOVING
[37:38] UTILITIES AND WATER AND SEWER
[37:40] INVOLVEMENT AND AND CATCH
[37:42] BASINS AND MOVING DRAINS AND IF
[37:44] THE SOME OF THESE HOUSES ARE ON
[37:46] SEPTIC SYSTEMS, ODDLY ENOUGH UM
[37:48] UH.
[37:50] I ANY HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS I
[37:52] YOU KNOW IT WOULD BE A LOT.
[37:54] YEAH AND THAT'S.
[37:55] JUST.
[37:55] THAT'S JUST TO GET THEM UP.
[37:57] TO CODE.
[37:57] AND WITH THAT AND LET.
[38:00] ALONE THE.
[38:01] ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
[38:02] AS WE.
[38:02] WOULD GIVE ANY OTHER STREET
[38:03] GOING FORWARD.
[38:04] CORRECT.
[38:05] AND THAT'S ASSUMING THAT
[38:06] RESIDENTS WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
[38:07] I MEAN WE GET CHALLENGED MOST
[38:09] TIMES WE GO OUT AND PATCH A
[38:11] POTHOLE.
[38:12] THERE ARE FOLKS THAT DON'T WANT
[38:13] IT.
[38:14] THEY DON'T WANT US ON THEIR
[38:15] STREET BECAUSE NOW IT'S UH
[38:17] SHARON STREET, RIGHT?
[38:18] IT WAS VOTED THAT WAS ONE
[38:18] OF THE ONES THAT STARTED TO GO
[38:20] THROUGH THE PROCESS.
[38:20] THE RESIDENT VOTED IT DOWN
[38:22] BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT IT TO
[38:23] BE A CUT THROUGH THE STREET, UH
[38:24] SPEEDING.
[38:26] SO IT THERE'S A LOT OF NUANCE
[38:28] HERE.
[38:29] WITH IS THERE ANY.
[38:30] BENEFIT WHEN IT IS BY THE WAY I
[38:32] MEAN ARE THEY TAXED MORE ON IT.
[38:34] IS THERE MORE SQUARE FOOTAGE TO
[38:36] AN INDIVIDUAL'S PROPERTY WHEN
[38:37] THEY LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY?
[38:39] UM I LOST YOU A LITTLE BIT BUT
[38:41] I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ARE THEY
[38:42] IS THERE ANY BENEFIT I THINK SO
[38:45] AGAIN I'VE LIVED AS
[38:47] COUNCILOR FLYNN KNOWS ON A
[38:48] PRIVATE WAVE SINCE 1978.
[38:51] IT'S ALMOST LIKE OUR OWN
[38:52] PARKING.
[38:52] UM, WE OWN THE PROPERTY SO YOU
[38:55] KNOW, YOU GET TOGETHER WITH THE
[38:56] FOLKS.
[38:57] I SAID LET'S SEE, WE HAVE ONE.
[38:58] WE HAVE WHAT SIX HOUSES ON ON
[38:59] THE PRIVATE WAY WE ALL AND GET
[39:01] TOGETHER AND SHARE LIKE
[39:03] OWNERSHIP OF IT.
[39:04] UM WE ALSO HAVE TO CLEAN IT.
[39:06] WE ALSO HAVE TO SHOVEL IT.
[39:08] UM YEAH.
[39:08] YOU KNOW.
[39:09] I GET THAT.
[39:10] YEAH.
[39:11] IS THERE ANY TAX DIFFERENCE.
[39:13] LIKE THE AMOUNT OF.
[39:14] PROPERTY IF IT'S A PRIVATE WAY
[39:16] IS IT.
[39:17] SPLIT INDIVIDUALLY?
[39:18] IS IT ADDED SQUARE FOOTAGE TO
[39:19] SOMEBODY'S.
[39:20] TAX BASE.
[39:21] THAT THEY WOULD BE TAXED UPON
[39:22] AND IF IT WERE TAKEN AWAY MIGHT
[39:24] THEY SEE THEIR TAXES GO DOWN IF
[39:25] IT WAS A PUBLIC STREET OR NOT?
[39:29] UH I JUST GOT MY TAX BILL LAST
[39:31] WEEK.
[39:32] UM I DON'T THINK IT'S ADDED TO
[39:34] THE TAX BILL.
[39:35] I DON'T KNOW I DON'T.
[39:36] I DON'T THINK IT IS BUT I
[39:37] DON'T KNOW.
[39:38] NO THAT'S I WAS JUST WONDERING
[39:39] IF LIKE THERE IS ANY BENEFIT TO
[39:40] SAY HEY IF YOU DO IT THAT'S
[39:41] LESS SQUARE FOOTAGE YOU TAXED
[39:43] ON ETC. OR THE PROPERTY IF YOU
[39:45] YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF YOUR
[39:46] PROPERTY RIGHT?
[39:46] IT'S NOT A ROAD WE NEED TO GO
[39:48] DOWN THERE BUT I JUST THESE ARE
[39:50] THE I THINK.
[39:51] THE BENEFIT THE BENEFIT
[39:52] WOULD BE RIGHT HAVING HAVE IT
[39:53] BE RESURFACED EVERY 20 OR 30
[39:55] YEARS HOWEVER WE KNOW I THINK
[39:56] THAT WOULD BE THE BENEFIT AND
[39:57] HAVING YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S
[39:58] SWEPT AND.
[39:59] YEAH MAINTAINED AND SNOW AND
[40:00] ICE MAYBE GOTCHA.
[40:02] SO I MEAN I THINK THE MAIN
[40:04] THING ABOUT DRIVEWAYS THIS
[40:05] WOULD THIS WOULD BE A VERY
[40:07] EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING.
[40:09] UH ADD THEM ON EXTREMELY
[40:11] EXPENSIVE UNDERTAKING I THINK
[40:12] THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT UH.
[40:13] KEY THAT I WANT UH THAT I WANT
[40:16] TO TAKE NOTE OF.
[40:16] UM, AND.
[40:17] THAT'S ALL THE TIME AT MY OTHER
[40:19] COLLEAGUES HAVE SOME GREAT
[40:19] QUESTIONS AND SO ON TO THE, UH,
[40:20] WHAT FOLKS NEED TO DO WHEN THEY
[40:22] DO HAVE ONE AND WHAT THE.
[40:23] OTHER.
[40:23] ADVANTAGES DECISIONS MIGHT BE.
[40:24] SO, UH, I'M ALL SET.
[40:26] CHAIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
[40:27] THE TIME OF DAY.
[40:28] THANK YOU.
[40:29] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD
[40:32] .
[40:32] COUNCILOR WEBER.
[40:37] YEAH.
[40:38] THANK YOU.
[40:39] UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME?
[40:45] WE CAN KIND OF HEAR YOU, BUT MY
[40:47] INTERNET HAS BEEN BAD, SO.
[40:48] I DON'T I'M NOT.
[40:49] A.
[40:50] GOOD JUDGE OF THIS, BUT I THINK
[40:52] YOU'RE COMING IN CLEAR NOW.
[40:54] OKAY.
[40:55] THANK YOU.
[40:56] UH, YEAH.
[40:57] I, UH I LIVED OUT A PRIVATE WAY
[40:59] FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS IN JP
[41:02] ADELAIDE TERRACE AND IT WAS
[41:03] LIKE, UH, A GRAVEL UH, SORT
[41:07] OF ROAD AND WE WORKED WITH THE
[41:09] NEIGHBORS.
[41:09] THERE'S ALSO A DEAD END.
[41:12] UM BUT I GUESS IT WAS ONE ISSUE
[41:14] WITH THIS PAVING WE HAD TALKED
[41:17] ABOUT PAVING OUR PRIVATE WAY
[41:18] BUT WITHOUT THE OTHER
[41:20] INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS
[41:22] SEEMED LIKE IT WOULD JUST
[41:24] FUNCTION AS SORT OF LIKE, UH, A
[41:26] SLIDE FOR WATER TO GO INTO OUR
[41:28] BASEMENT AND STUFF.
[41:29] BUT HE JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT
[41:31] ABOUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT
[41:33] ELSE WE WOULD YOU NEED TO PUT
[41:35] IN AND WHEN YOU PAVE AT LEAST
[41:37] ONE OF THESE GRAVEL PRIVATE
[41:39] WAYS.
[41:40] YEAH.
[41:41] SO WE'VE RUN INTO THE
[41:42] PROBLEMS LIKE THAT UP THE
[41:43] GROVE, UM, THAT WE DO USE TO
[41:45] ACCESS FOR TRASH.
[41:46] UM, WE'VE GONE UP THERE AND
[41:48] ADDED MAILINGS UH, AND THEN
[41:50] MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT WELL,
[41:51] YOU KNOW, EVEN AFFECTED THE WAY
[41:53] THAT THE WATER RUNS OFF IT'S
[41:54] COME INTO OUR BASEMENT.
[41:56] THAT TYPE OF THING.
[41:57] SO YEAH, ANY TYPE OF YOU KNOW,
[42:01] CHANGE LIKE THAT TO THE TO THE
[42:02] ROADWAY OR TO THE IT DOES
[42:04] AFFECT DRAINAGE ESPECIALLY IF
[42:05] THERE ARE NO CATCH BASINS OR IF
[42:07] THERE IS NO YOU KNOW, NO SYSTEM
[42:09] SET UP TO CAPTURE THAT WATER.
[42:13] OKAY.
[42:14] YEAH I UH SO JUST I, I I'M
[42:17] IN MY CAR BECAUSE I AM IN THE
[42:20] GROVE AND I WANTED TO, UH, BE
[42:23] ABLE TO TALK TO YOU FROM HERE.
[42:25] UM SO THERE THE THE POTHOLES IN
[42:28] THE GROVE RANGE FROM UH I DON'T
[42:31] KNOW, LIKE THOSE THE SIZE OF A
[42:34] LARGE TURTLE TO LIKE THE SIZE
[42:36] OF A SHERMAN TANK.
[42:37] UH, SO I GUESS WHAT IS THE
[42:41] OKAY, SO CAN YOU FILL THE
[42:44] SMALLER POTHOLES IN THE GROVE
[42:45] WITH ASPHALT?
[42:46] WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION?
[42:49] SO WE WOULDN'T USE ASPHALT.
[42:50] UP THERE.
[42:51] YOU WANT TO USE WHAT'S EXISTING
[42:52] ?
[42:52] UH, ASPHALT IS UP.
[42:53] YOU KNOW WHEN IT WHEN IT CURES.
[42:55] IT'S A HARD STATIONARY MATERIAL
[42:57] UP THERE.
[42:58] THE GRAVEL KIND OF MOVES IN
[43:00] FLOWS AS IT GETS SATURATED AS
[43:01] IT FREEZES AS IT DRIES OUT.
[43:03] UM, THAT WOULD JUST USING
[43:05] ASPHALT WOULD JUST CAUSE A
[43:06] PROBLEM.
[43:08] UM I BELIEVE WAS TWO YEARS AGO
[43:09] ONE OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE
[43:10] GROVE ACTUALLY CALLED THE EPA
[43:12] ON US BECAUSE WE WERE USING
[43:13] MAILINGS TO FILL UM, SAYING
[43:14] THAT IT WAS A HAZARDOUS
[43:16] MATERIAL.
[43:16] IT WASN'T IT'S A ACCEPTED
[43:18] ROADWAY MATERIAL.
[43:19] UM.
[43:20] THE GROVE.
[43:21] IS A TOUGH ONE.
[43:22] THE GROVES ARE TOUGH ON MOST
[43:23] OF THE FOLKS UP THERE DON'T
[43:24] WANT DON'T.
[43:25] WANT US UP THERE.
[43:26] UM, THERE IS A THERE IS A
[43:28] GENTLEMAN UP THERE THAT DOES
[43:30] HAVE A, UH A LITTLE SKID STEER
[43:31] LIKE A BOBCAT.
[43:32] UM, I THINK I TALKED TO FREDDIE
[43:34] UH, LAST NIGHT THE LIKE WE DID
[43:36] DUMP, UM, SOME MAILINGS FOR HIM
[43:38] TWO YEARS AGO AND HE WOULD KIND
[43:40] OF UPKEEP UP THERE.
[43:41] UM, BUT IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT
[43:43] PLACE TO TO GO EVERY TIME WE GO
[43:45] UP THERE PEOPLE DON'T WANT US
[43:46] THERE THAT THEY'RE CALLING TO
[43:47] GET US OUT.
[43:47] THEY'RE CALLING THE.
[43:48] POLICE.
[43:48] ON US.
[43:49] UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE
[43:52] CRITERIA IS, YOU KNOW, CAN AN
[43:55] AMBULANCE OR A FIRE TRUCK MAKE
[43:57] IT THROUGH IF NEEDED?
[44:02] AND THAT CANISTER OR.
[44:07] UH.
[44:07] I'VE TRAVELED.
[44:13] WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS THERE?
[44:14] BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME ENORMOUS
[44:16] POTHOLES IN HERE THERE THAT
[44:18] WOULD JUST AS WELL AS THE CAR.
[44:19] I DIDN'T GET ALL OF YOUR
[44:21] QUESTION BUT I I.
[44:25] YEAH I MEAN HOW DO YOU THINK
[44:27] YOU CAN GET AN AMBULANCE TO THE
[44:29] GROVE?
[44:30] I GUESS THAT'S MY QUESTION.
[44:33] I MISSED THE FIRST PART OF THE
[44:35] QUESTION.
[44:38] UH I I GUESS THAT YOU CAN YOU
[44:40] GET A FIRE TRUCK THROUGH THE
[44:41] GROVE IS MY QUESTION.
[44:45] UM, YEAH.
[44:46] YES.
[44:46] I'VE SEEN IT.
[44:47] YEAH.
[44:49] UH, OKAY.
[44:51] UM I, UH AND SO, UH, IF IF
[44:59] PEOPLE HAVE SO EVEN ON THESE
[45:02] MIXED UH, SORT OF GRAVEL
[45:05] SURFACE ROADS THEY CAN SOME
[45:07] PEOPLE CAN FILE A311 AND AND
[45:11] THE CITY WILL COME OUT AND
[45:13] PERHAPS FILL THOSE HOLES.
[45:17] SO GROVE WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT
[45:18] OF A DIFFERENT UH YOU.
[45:19] KNOW, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT
[45:21] DIFFERENT.
[45:21] BECAUSE I YOU KNOW, I I GOT
[45:23] THAT I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I WAS
[45:24] NOT ON GROVE HARDLY.
[45:26] WELL, YOU KNOW ADELAIDE UH YOU
[45:29] KNOW OTHER OTHER PLACES UM IS
[45:32] THE RECOMMENDATION FOR JUST THE
[45:34] POTHOLES TO TO FOLLOW TRAIL ON
[45:36] ONE.
[45:37] UM YEAH.
[45:38] YEAH.
[45:39] YOU KNOW.
[45:40] WITH THE CAVEAT THAT, YOU
[45:41] KNOW.
[45:41] IT IS GOING TO GET CLOSED OUT
[45:43] ALMOST IMMEDIATELY THAT IT'S A
[45:45] PRIVATE WAY BUT IS RESPONSIBLE
[45:46] FOR REPAIR.
[45:47] BUT WHAT.
[45:48] THAT DOES IS THE INSPECTOR
[45:50] OR SUPERVISOR IN THE IN THE
[45:51] DISTRICT.
[45:52] WILL EVENTUALLY.
[45:53] GO TAKE A LOOK AT IT UM AND
[45:55] ASSESS IS THIS SOMETHING THAT
[45:57] WE HAVE TO STEP IN AND REPAIR
[45:58] FOR THE ABUTTERS SO THAT A FIRE
[46:00] TRUCK CAN HAVE ACCESS IF THE
[46:01] LADDER TRUCK CAN ACCESS THE
[46:03] THE.
[46:03] THE AREA?
[46:07] UM, I GUESS ON THE ON THE UH
[46:09] WHATEVER THE THE THE
[46:10] IMPROVEMENT YOU KNOW, MAKING
[46:12] THE PRIVATE PRIVATELY INTO A
[46:13] PUBLIC WAY IS THERE'S IS THERE
[46:16] ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO ACTUALLY
[46:18] MAKE THAT INTO A REAL PROGRAM
[46:21] OR IS IT JUST THAT NO, YOU KNOW
[46:23] ,VERY FEW PRIVATE WAYS WANT TO
[46:25] ABSORB THE COST, UH, AND THAT
[46:29] THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD TO.
[46:33] TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS THAT
[46:35] OURSELVES BECAUSE IT WOULD BE
[46:37] MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
[46:40] UM UM.
[46:43] SO SO IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.
[46:44] UM, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN
[46:46] FOUR STREETS IN THE PAST 15
[46:47] YEARS.
[46:47] I THINK WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES
[46:49] IS NOT EVERYBODY LIVING ON THE
[46:51] PRIVATE WAY WANTS IT TO HAPPEN.
[46:52] LIKE I SAID SHARON STREET THEY
[46:55] WANT IT THE WAY YOU KNOW MOST
[46:56] OF THE PEOPLE THERE WANT IT THE
[46:58] WAY IT IS.
[46:59] UM.
[46:59] YOU KNOW, IT CUTS TO THERE FOR
[47:02] WHATEVER REASON THAT THEY THEY
[47:04] MAYBE THEY FEAR THAT THEIR
[47:05] TAXES WILL GO UP I DON'T KNOW I
[47:07] CAN'T YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR WHEN
[47:09] I USED TO WHEN I USED TO BE OUT
[47:10] THERE ON THE ROAD LIKE THAT.
[47:11] WOULD BE YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO
[47:13] CAUSE FOLKS TO USE THE STREET
[47:14] AS A CUT THROUGH.
[47:15] WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE FLYING
[47:16] THROUGH HERE.
[47:17] OUR KIDS PLAY HERE, UM.
[47:19] YOU KNOW SO.
[47:20] SO I MEAN IT IS A REAL PROGRAM.
[47:22] UM I THINK WHAT THE PROBLEM
[47:24] LIES IN IS THAT IT'S GOING TO
[47:26] BE VERY DIFFICULT TO GET RIGHT
[47:28] TO GET EVERYONE TO AGREE ON
[47:30] ANYTHING REALLY.
[47:30] BUT I MEAN SOMETHING LIKE THAT
[47:32] WHERE YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW THAT
[47:34] AFTER THE CITY COMES IN AND
[47:36] DOES IT IT'S GOING TO BE
[47:37] ASSESSED.
[47:38] YOU KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE AN
[47:39] ASSESSMENT.
[47:39] ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
[47:41] SO UM SO.
[47:42] YEAH AND IT JUST IN TERMS
[47:43] OF THAT HOW DOES IT WORK?
[47:45] IT'S ONLY I'M JUST SAYING TO
[47:47] GET MORE THAN FOREST STREETS IN
[47:50] 15 YEARS TO PARTICIPATE NOT
[47:51] THAT THE PROGRAM ISN'T ISN'T
[47:52] WELL RUN UH, JUST YOU KNOW,
[47:55] OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE AREN'T TAKING
[47:56] ADVANTAGE OF IT.
[47:58] UM UH, YEAH.
[48:01] SO WHAT IS THE PAYMENT PLAN
[48:02] LIKE?
[48:02] YOU JUST SEE IF IF IT COSTS $1
[48:07] MILLION OF WORK ON THAT STREET,
[48:09] WHO'S PAYING FOR IT AND HOW
[48:11] DOES IT GET PAID OUT?
[48:12] UM, SO IT WOULD BE AN
[48:14] ASSESSMENT.
[48:14] UM.
[48:15] THAT'S THE THE THE.
[48:17] BREADTH OF MY KNOWLEDGE ON THAT
[48:19] I DON'T KNOW I, I HAVE NO IDEA
[48:21] IF THEY WOULD ALLOW PAYMENT
[48:22] PLANS OR IF IT'S IT'S JUST
[48:24] ASSESSED TO THE TO THE PROPERTY
[48:26] .
[48:28] OKAY.
[48:29] UH YEAH YOU GET IT IN ONE
[48:31] TAX BILL THAT I'VE NEVER REALLY
[48:33] UNDERSTOOD HOW THAT WORKS.
[48:34] UM.
[48:36] YEAH.
[48:37] UNFORTUNATELY NEITHER.
[48:38] DO I.
[48:38] YEAH.
[48:39] OKAY.
[48:41] UH, OKAY.
[48:41] WELL YEAH.
[48:42] I MEAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS
[48:44] THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE WHO
[48:45] LIVES ON THESE PRIVATE WAYS YOU
[48:47] DO OWN YOUR YOUR FRONTAGE UP TO
[48:49] HALFWAY INTO THE PRIVATE WAY.
[48:52] UM, AND YEAH, I'VE BEEN OUT
[48:54] THERE SHOVELING, UH, YOU KNOW,
[48:56] DURING THE SNOWSTORMS AND YOU
[48:58] KNOW, UH, WE BOUGHT LIKE A SNOW
[49:00] BLOWER, UH, AS YOU KNOW, OUR
[49:03] HOUSE TO THE OTHER HOUSES WERE
[49:04] RENTERS AND UM, IT WAS SORT
[49:07] OF AN ENDLESS STRUGGLE.
[49:08] SO I UNDERSTAND THIS PROGRAM IS
[49:09] PROBABLY A.
[49:10] LITTLE WAYS.
[49:11] UM, UH, AND I YOU KNOW.
[49:15] WE I ALSO GET A LOT.
[49:17] OF.
[49:17] PEOPLE WHO COME TO ME.
[49:18] SAY I PAY TAXES.
[49:19] YOU KNOW, WHY.
[49:20] DOESN'T THE CITY FIX UP MY
[49:21] PRIVATE WAY?
[49:22] I MEAN, MY THOUGHT ON THAT IS.
[49:23] I THINK IF ALL THE RULES ARE
[49:25] BEING FOLLOWED LIKE THESE
[49:26] HOUSES WOULDN'T EXIST AT LEAST
[49:28] THE ONES THAT ADELAIDE SOMEBODY
[49:29] JUST BUILT HOUSES BEHIND THEIR
[49:33] PROPERTY.
[49:33] UH, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S.
[49:36] LIKE IT'S.
[49:37] ALMOST LIKE GETTING SOMETHING.
[49:38] FOR.
[49:39] NOTHING IF YOU JUST CONVERT IT
[49:41] INTO A PUBLIC WAY.
[49:42] YOU KNOW, UH, THOSE.
[49:43] THOSE YOU'RE SORT OF TAKING.
[49:45] ADVANTAGE OF THE.
[49:46] CITY ON.
[49:47] ONE END AND THEN, YOU KNOW,
[49:48] UH.
[49:49] HOPING THE CITY PAYS FOR IT.
[49:51] ON THE ON THE OTHER BUT UH
[49:55] UM UH, YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY.
[49:57] I THINK I, I HAVE HEARD FROM
[49:59] PEOPLE IN THE GROVE WHO WANT TO
[50:00] SEE THOSE POTHOLES BEING.
[50:01] FIXED AND MAYBE WE'LL DO SOME
[50:02] MORE.
[50:03] ORGANIZING AROUND THAT UH.
[50:05] TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW.
[50:06] IT.
[50:07] IS VERY DIFFICULT TO GET
[50:08] THROUGH THERE HOPING YOU JUST.
[50:10] IMPROVED IT ANYWAY.
[50:11] SO, UH.
[50:12] I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL THE WORK
[50:13] THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
[50:16] FILING THIS AND THANK YOU TO
[50:17] THE CHAIR.
[50:19] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR WEBER.
[50:21] UM, YEAH.
[50:22] UH, A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT I
[50:23] HAD HAVE ALREADY BEEN ASKED BY
[50:25] MY COLLEAGUES, BUT.
[50:26] I DO HAVE I WANT TO KIND
[50:27] OF DRILL IN MORE TO OKAY.
[50:30] IF WE.
[50:31] DO WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD,
[50:33] UM.
[50:34] YOU KNOW WHAT IT.
[50:34] WHAT.
[50:35] IT MAY MEAN.
[50:35] JUST LIKE THE REALITY
[50:36] OF LIKE THE STATE LAW AND ALL
[50:39] OF THAT, UM.
[50:40] AND JUST LIKE THE LIKE THE
[50:42] DOING DOING A.
[50:43] STREET AND THE CITY SHARING THE
[50:45] COST IS A NOBLE ENDEAVOR.
[50:49] LIKE I 100%.
[50:50] AGREE THAT WE SHOULD BE.
[50:53] HELPING RESIDENTS AS MUCH AS WE
[50:54] CAN.
[50:55] AND FIXING ROADS, UM, TO.
[50:58] LIKE THE FULLEST EXTENT THAT
[51:00] WE.
[51:00] CAN BUT IN LIKE THERE ARE
[51:03] THINGS THAT WE OBVIOUSLY.
[51:04] HAVE TO THINK ABOUT.
[51:05] LIKE IN.
[51:06] THE.
[51:06] LONGER TERM DOES THAT
[51:07] INVESTMENT MAKE.
[51:09] SENSE IF FOR.
[51:10] EXAMPLE WE DO JUST RESURFACING
[51:12] AND THAT'S UP.
[51:13] TO YOU KNOW THAT'S JUST.
[51:15] ASSUMING THAT.
[51:16] THAT IS UP TO 25% OF OF WHAT
[51:19] NEEDS TO.
[51:20] HAPPEN LIKE SHOULD WE
[51:22] RESURFACE.
[51:23] IF ULTIMATELY THAT.
[51:24] DRAINAGE AND THIS HAS HAPPENED.
[51:26] BEFORE EVEN JUST WITH NORMAL
[51:27] WORK.
[51:28] IF THAT DRAINAGE.
[51:29] IS GOING TO.
[51:30] GO INTO PEOPLE'S.
[51:30] HOMES OR IF THAT WATER.
[51:32] IS GOING TO BE.
[51:33] CORROSIVE AND.
[51:33] IT'S GOING.
[51:34] TO BE.
[51:35] UM, YOU KNOW, BACK TO.
[51:36] SQUARE ONE AT THE END OF THE
[51:38] DAY.
[51:38] AND IN JUST.
[51:39] A FEW YEARS OR A COUPLE OF.
[51:41] DECADES BUT I THINK IT'S
[51:42] ALREADY BEEN YOU KNOW, I HAD A
[51:44] FEW TECHNICAL.
[51:44] QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE WHAT IT
[51:45] MEANS TO.
[51:46] RESURFACE WITHOUT DOING
[51:47] DRAINAGE AND.
[51:48] UTILITY WORK AND UM, I THINK
[51:50] THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED BUT.
[51:51] THE THE.
[51:52] ADA COMPONENT OF THIS IS
[51:53] SOMETHING THAT HASN'T REALLY.
[51:54] BEEN BROUGHT UP.
[51:55] SO UM, PERMANENT RESURFACING MY
[51:59] UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT.
[51:59] WOULD TRIGGER.
[52:01] ADA ACCESSIBILITY REQUIREMENTS
[52:02] .
[52:03] UM, THAT ROUTINE POTHOLE
[52:07] MAINTENANCE DOES NOT AND SO.
[52:08] THAT WOULD.
[52:10] ADD ON COSTS TO.
[52:12] THE CITY.
[52:12] SO I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE
[52:13] OUT HOW WE WOULD DISTINGUISH
[52:14] BETWEEN ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND
[52:16] PERMANENT ALTERATIONS THAT
[52:18] WOULD.
[52:18] TRIGGER ADA.
[52:19] OBLIGATIONS AND WHO.
[52:22] WHO WOULD BEAR THOSE COSTS.
[52:24] UM AND I MAYBE IT'S NOT A
[52:26] QUESTION FOR YOU, DAN.
[52:27] BUT IT IS A QUESTION FOR FOR
[52:29] LEGAL.
[52:31] UM AND THEN.
[52:31] WELL, I COULD YOU KNOW, IF IF
[52:33] THE.
[52:33] ABUTTERS WANTED TO RESURFACE
[52:34] THEY CERTAINLY COULD THEY
[52:36] WOULDN'T BE HELD UM TO THE ADA
[52:40] ACCESSIBILITY UM COMPLIANCE IF
[52:43] THEY JUST WANTED TO COME IN
[52:43] AND, YOU KNOW, GET ONE STRIP
[52:45] OF ASPHALT DOWN THE CENTER
[52:46] OF THE YOU KNOW, THEY COULD DO
[52:48] THAT BUT THAT WOULD CERTAINLY
[52:50] AFFECT DRAINAGE.
[52:51] UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME
[52:53] THAT THEY WOULDN'T PAY FOR A
[52:55] SURVEY.
[52:56] TO DO.
[52:57] THAT THAT THEY WOULD JUST
[52:57] WANT TO KIND OF DO IT AND GET
[52:58] IT DONE AGAIN.
[52:59] YOU KNOW, EACH EACH PRIVATE
[53:00] WEIGH IS DIFFERENT.
[53:02] UM, AS FAR AS THE BETTERMENT
[53:05] PROCESS, YOU KNOW, IF THE CITY
[53:07] WERE TO COME IN AND DO IT AND
[53:09] AND UM, DO THE ASSESSMENT YES.
[53:12] THE STREET WOULD HAVE TO BE
[53:14] FULLY YOU KNOW, FULLY PUBLIC
[53:16] CITY SPECS, UM, ADA COMPLIANT
[53:19] SIDEWALKS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND
[53:21] THAT'S 53FT, YOU KNOW, SIDE TO
[53:24] SIDE.
[53:25] UM, A LOT OF THESE ALLEYS DON'T
[53:28] HAVE THAT.
[53:30] SO THERE'S.
[53:30] A PROBLEM.
[53:31] AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THAT
[53:32] PESKY STATE LAW.
[53:32] BUT UM, YOU KNOW.
[53:35] YOU IT.
[53:37] YEAH, THERE'S A LOT THERE.
[53:38] BUT IF THE ABUTTERS.
[53:40] WANTED TO COME IN AND JUST
[53:41] RESURFACE.
[53:41] IT.
[53:41] THEY COULD DO THAT.
[53:46] WITHOUT TRIGGERING WITHOUT
[53:47] TRIGGERING THE 88, YOU KNOW THE
[53:48] ADA COMPLIANT STUFF.
[53:49] OKAY.
[53:50] AND I DO HAVE UM.
[53:52] I MEAN AND THEN YOU'VE ALREADY
[53:53] GONE THROUGH THE EQUATION AND
[53:55] WHAT IT.
[53:55] WOULD MEAN.
[53:55] UH.
[53:56] IN TERMS OF.
[53:57] UM PAYMENT ON THEIR BEHALF.
[53:59] I HAVE HAD RESIDENTS IN EAST
[54:01] BOSTON FOR.
[54:02] GENEVA AND GENEVA STREET.
[54:03] I'M SURE YOU KNOW THIS, UM,
[54:05] REFUSE.
[54:06] TO DO.
[54:07] THE.
[54:07] PROCESS BECAUSE.
[54:07] THEN THAT WOULD MEAN THAT THEY
[54:08] WOULD NEED TO.
[54:09] PAY MORE IN TAXES.
[54:11] SO UM YEAH, THERE'S LIKE
[54:12] THERE'S A.
[54:13] BUNCH OF.
[54:14] DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS AND
[54:16] PERSPECTIVES.
[54:16] BUT I'M I'M.
[54:17] MORE CURIOUS ABOUT THE LIKE
[54:19] THE 25% THRESHOLD LIKE HOW
[54:20] WOULD YOU ALL CALCULATE.
[54:21] THAT LIKE.
[54:22] WOULD.
[54:23] IT BE.
[54:23] BY SURFACE AREA LINEAR
[54:24] FOOTAGE OR ANOTHER METRIC?
[54:28] YOU KNOW MAYBE IT'S A MOUNT
[54:29] IT'S BIG RIGHT?
[54:30] IT'S NOT SPECIFIC SO MAYBE IT'S
[54:32] A MOUNT THE TOTAL COST UM I
[54:35] DON'T I DON'T KNOW.
[54:36] I WILL.
[54:37] SAY THIS AS A.
[54:38] PUBLIC AS A PRIVATE WAY UM
[54:40] RESIDENT.
[54:41] IF THE CITY WANTED TO COME AND
[54:42] SAID HEY, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE
[54:43] IT OVER AND FIX EVERYTHING AND
[54:44] ADD SIDEWALKS, I WOULDN'T WANT
[54:46] THAT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO
[54:47] AFFECT HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WE
[54:49] PARK UP IN THE IN THE IN THE
[54:52] PRIVATE WAY.
[54:53] SO YOU KNOW SOMETHING THAT'S
[54:54] ANOTHER KIND OF NUANCE TO THINK
[54:56] ABOUT.
[54:56] UM, AND AGAIN, PROBABLY ONE
[54:58] OF THE REASONS THAT A LOT
[54:59] OF FOLKS LIVING ON PRIVATE
[55:01] WAVES DON'T.
[55:01] YOU KNOW, THEY THEY DON'T WANT
[55:03] ANYTHING DONE.
[55:04] YEAH.
[55:05] AND THAT'S PRECISELY WHY ON
[55:06] GENEVA STREET UM UH, THERE ARE
[55:08] A COUPLE FAMILIES WHO ARE
[55:10] SAYING THAT THEY DON'T WANT,
[55:11] UM, THEIR PRIVATE WAY TO BE
[55:13] TURNED INTO A PUBLIC STREET.
[55:14] UM, OKAY.
[55:15] BUT YOU'RE SAYING LIKE IF.
[55:16] I THINK.
[55:17] THIS IS JUST A CLARIFYING
[55:18] POINT AND I APOLOGIZE.
[55:19] THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY.
[55:20] REDUNDANT AT THIS POINT.
[55:21] BUT JUST FOR ME.
[55:23] IF IF THEY.
[55:23] WANTED TO COME.
[55:24] IN THROUGH.
[55:25] THE THE PICK.
[55:26] PROCESS THE.
[55:27] RESIDENTS AND JUST DO.
[55:28] A LINE OF ASK BALL DOWN THE
[55:29] STREET.
[55:30] THEY ARE NOT REQUIRED TO GO
[55:32] THROUGH THE ENTIRE BENEFIT
[55:34] PROCESS WHICH IS ENSURING THAT
[55:35] THERE'S DRAINAGE OR UTILITY OR.
[55:37] ADA ACCESSIBLE ROOMS.
[55:38] THEY COULD DO THAT.
[55:39] FULLY ON THEIR OWN.
[55:40] THEY WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO
[55:41] START THE PICK PROCESS.
[55:42] YOU KNOW THEY'RE.
[55:43] BASICALLY REPAIRING THEIR
[55:44] PRIVATE PROPERTY HOWEVER REALLY
[55:46] HOWEVER THEY WANT.
[55:47] BUT LIKE THE CITY WOULDN'T BE.
[55:48] COST SHARING IN THAT.
[55:50] UH NO.
[55:51] AND IF.
[55:52] THEY DID WANT THE CITY TO
[55:53] COST.
[55:53] SHARE IT WHEN THEY WOULD HAVE
[55:54] TO GO THROUGH THE.
[55:55] PROCESS OKAY.
[55:56] AND THEN THAT WOULD REQUIRE
[55:57] THEM TO TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE
[56:00] RIGMAROLE OF.
[56:01] EVERYTHING I JUST MENTIONED.
[56:01] CORRECT.
[56:02] OKAY.
[56:04] AND WELL YEAH.
[56:05] I LOT.
[56:06] TO THINK.
[56:06] ABOUT I MEAN AGAIN THIS IS
[56:07] A.
[56:07] THIS IS A GOOD INTENTIONS I
[56:08] JUST.
[56:09] THINK LIKE THINKING THROUGH IT
[56:10] OPERATIONALLY IT'S UM.
[56:11] IT'S A.
[56:12] LITTLE TOUGH AND SO ARE
[56:13] THINKING ABOUT OPERATIONAL
[56:14] FEASIBILITY OF ONE LAST
[56:15] QUESTION.
[56:17] UM DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER
[56:18] OF HOW MANY PRIVATE WAYS
[56:19] CURRENTLY RECEIVE CITY FUNDED
[56:21] TEMPORARY REPAIRS?
[56:22] AND I GUESS HOW WOULD THIS
[56:24] ORDINANCE MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE
[56:25] THE CITY'S.
[56:26] ABILITY TO.
[56:27] ADDRESS REOCCURRING POTHOLES?
[56:31] UM, I DON'T HAVE THAT.
[56:34] I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER FOR
[56:35] YOU.
[56:35] UM.
[56:38] THINKING NOW ABOUT HOW WE.
[56:39] COULD GET THAT.
[56:41] SO LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IF THE
[56:42] 311 COMPLAINT COMES IN WE CLOSE
[56:45] IT OUT AS A BUT AS OUR RESPONSE
[56:48] OKAY AND THEN WE COULD OR WE WE
[56:50] EITHER DO A DON'T REPAIR WHAT
[56:52] WE THINK IS NECESSARY.
[56:56] UM YEAH I'M TRYING TO THINK
[56:57] OF HOW I CAN.
[56:58] COULD COULD GET THAT NUMBER.
[57:00] I DON'T THINK WE COULD RIGHT
[57:01] NOW THE WAY WE CURRENTLY DO
[57:02] THINGS.
[57:03] OKAY.
[57:03] AND LET ME REPHRASE LIKE
[57:04] THE.
[57:04] SECOND PART.
[57:05] OF THE QUESTION I THINK.
[57:06] I'M I'M.
[57:06] INTERESTED IN.
[57:07] PRACTICALITY HERE.
[57:08] LIKE IS THE.
[57:09] PROPOSED FRAMEWORK SOMETHING
[57:10] THAT.
[57:10] PUBLIC WORKS WOULD BE ABLE TO.
[57:12] ADMINISTER OR.
[57:14] THINKING THROUGH.
[57:14] IF WE WERE.
[57:15] TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE
[57:16] WHAT.
[57:16] AMENDMENTS YOU WOULD.
[57:17] RECOMMEND TO MAKE
[57:19] IMPLEMENTATION.
[57:19] MORE EFFECTIVE.
[57:21] IN TERMS OF US JUST TAKING THEM
[57:23] ALL OVER?
[57:23] YEAH.
[57:24] I THINK.
[57:26] IT'S IT'S SO HUGE.
[57:29] TO THINK ABOUT.
[57:30] I REALLY I PROBABLY NEED SOME
[57:32] TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT.
[57:33] IT WOULD KIND OF BE TAKEN OUT
[57:34] OF HIGHWAY'S HANDS.
[57:35] IT WOULD GO RIGHT THROUGH THE
[57:37] PICK AND ENGINEERING UM IT'S
[57:40] YOU KNOW, IT'S A LOT OF WORK IN
[57:42] SMALL TIGHT SPACES.
[57:44] UM.
[57:45] I IMAGINE I WOULDN'T EVEN
[57:47] GUESS TO GIVE YOU A IT WOULD BE
[57:49] HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS
[57:50] OF DOLLARS.
[57:50] OKAY?
[57:51] MULTIPLE HUNDREDS OF MILLION
[57:52] .
[57:53] YOU KNOW.
[57:53] IT WOULD BE A LOT.
[57:55] YEAH.
[57:55] AND I MEAN WE ARE I WOULD
[57:57] LOVE TO UNDERSTAND AND JUST
[57:58] MAKING A FORMAL.
[57:59] REQUEST THAT WE CAN FOLLOW.
[58:00] UP THROUGH IG.
[58:01] ARE LIKE GETTING ANY SORT OF.
[58:03] AND I WAS YOU KNOW ALSO TO
[58:05] COUNCIL FITZGERALD'S POINT
[58:06] LIKE.
[58:07] WHATEVER WE CAN.
[58:09] USE ESPECIALLY LIKE A.
[58:10] DOLLAR AMOUNT OF WHAT THIS MAY.
[58:12] COST WOULD.
[58:13] BE HELPFUL FOR.
[58:13] US AS.
[58:14] WE MOVE FORWARD AS WE
[58:15] CONSIDER THIS PROPOSAL.
[58:16] SO JUST A BALLPARK.
[58:19] NUMBER WOULD BE HELPFUL TO.
[58:20] US PEOPLE MUCH SMARTER THAN I
[58:21] COULD PROBABLY TAKE THE UH, THE
[58:23] MILEAGE AND JUST ADD THE
[58:25] AVERAGE COST ON ON A YOU KNOW
[58:27] TO TO RECONSTRUCT A PRIVATE A.
[58:28] PUBLIC WAY.
[58:29] YEAH THAT WOULD BE A GOOD.
[58:31] START KNOWING THAT IT'S GOING
[58:32] TO BE MUCH MORE THAN THAT, YOU.
[58:34] KNOW RIGHT.
[58:35] BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT THE.
[58:36] THAT THEY'RE SET UP.
[58:38] OKAY I WOULD APPRECIATE.
[58:39] THAT THAT WOULD BE.
[58:40] HELPFUL AS WE.
[58:41] CONSIDER YOU KNOW UM THIS.
[58:42] AGAIN THIS PROPOSAL UM AND
[58:45] WHAT.
[58:45] WE WOULD NEED IN.
[58:46] TERMS OF STAFFING CAPACITY TO
[58:48] EVEN GET THIS DONE BUT UM.
[58:51] THAT'S IT FOR ME AND I
[58:52] APOLOGIZE COUNCIL.
[58:52] WELL, I'M JUST SEEING YOUR HAND
[58:53] UP NOW.
[58:54] WE'LL GO.
[58:54] TO SECOND ROUND
[58:55] OF QUESTIONING.
[58:56] UM, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY.
[58:57] INFORMATION THAT.
[58:58] WOULD.
[58:58] BE PERTINENT.
[58:58] AS CONVERSATION PLEASE FEEL
[58:59] FREE TO SHARE.
[59:00] UH THANK YOU CHAIR.
[59:01] AND JUST FOR.
[59:03] FLAHERTY, UM, WHAT WHAT WHAT
[59:05] THE ORDINANCE IS ASKING SIMILAR
[59:08] TO WHAT LIKE
[59:09] SUPERINTENDENT NEED HAS STATED
[59:12] IS THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY
[59:14] AUTOMATICALLY FILL POTHOLES ON
[59:16] PRIVATE WINGS.
[59:20] SO THIS THIS ORDINANCE IS JUST
[59:22] SAYING THAT THEY WILL
[59:23] AUTOMATICALLY FILL THE
[59:26] POTHOLES.
[59:28] AND CURRENTLY UNDER I'M SURE
[59:31] THEY DO IT IN PRACTICE UNDER
[59:33] THE CITY CODE THEY.
[59:36] ARE NOT ALLOWED TO USE ASPHALT
[59:41] SO THIS JUST GIVES THEM IN THE
[59:42] CITY ORDINANCE UH THE ABILITY
[59:45] TO USE ASPHALT.
[59:47] SO WE JUST ASKING THEM TO
[59:51] AUTOMATICALLY UH FILL THE
[59:54] POTHOLES AND GIVE THE GIVE THEM
[59:56] IT UNDER THE CITY CODE THE
[59:58] ABILITY TO USE ASPHALT BUT THIS
[1:00:00] ORDINANCE IS NOT ASKING UM, US
[1:00:02] TO TAKE IT OVER THE WHOLE
[1:00:05] STREET.
[1:00:05] IT JUST GIVES YOU KNOW, THE
[1:00:07] PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH,
[1:00:09] THE LEGAL FRAMEWORK TO USE
[1:00:12] ASPHALT.
[1:00:12] UM, AND INSTEAD OF CLOSING IT
[1:00:14] OUT, UH, ONCE THEY GET IT
[1:00:16] AUTOMATICALLY CLOSING THAT ONCE
[1:00:17] THEY GET IT AND THEN GOING
[1:00:19] THROUGH THIS ASSESSMENT WHETHER
[1:00:21] OR NOT THEY SHOULD FILL THE
[1:00:24] POTHOLE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT
[1:00:25] THEY JUST SHOULD FILL THE
[1:00:26] POTHOLE.
[1:00:27] RIGHT.
[1:00:28] SO I.
[1:00:29] UNDERSTAND THAT JUST REALLY
[1:00:29] QUICK IF I.
[1:00:30] CAN UM REPLY.
[1:00:32] SO IT ALSO.
[1:00:33] REQUIRES US FOR.
[1:00:34] THE.
[1:00:35] CITY TO PROVIDE A COST SHARE.
[1:00:36] AND I THINK MY POINT IN WHICH I
[1:00:38] DIDN'T.
[1:00:38] ARTICULATE WELL IS THAT.
[1:00:39] IF WE ARE GOING TO BEAR THE
[1:00:42] COST.
[1:00:43] OF THIS IS IT HOW.
[1:00:46] ARE WE ACTUALLY MAXIMIZING OUR
[1:00:48] INVESTMENT INTO THE.
[1:00:49] STREET IF IT IS JUST A BAND-AID
[1:00:51] TO.
[1:00:51] FILL THE.
[1:00:52] POTHOLE WITH ASPHALT.
[1:00:53] LIKE IT WOULD, IT WOULD BEHOOVE
[1:00:55] US TO THINK.
[1:00:57] TO.
[1:00:57] RESURFACE THE STREET BECAUSE
[1:00:58] THERE.
[1:00:58] ARE UNDERLYING ISSUES ANYWAY AS
[1:01:01] TO.
[1:01:01] WHY THERE'S POTHOLES THERE.
[1:01:03] SO I MEAN LIKE FOR ME I
[1:01:05] WOULDN'T WANT OUR TAX DOLLARS
[1:01:07] TO.
[1:01:08] CONTINUOUSLY GO INTO.
[1:01:10] BAND-AIDS RATHER THAN.
[1:01:12] THINKING.
[1:01:12] ABOUT MORE HOLISTICALLY.
[1:01:13] HOW WE.
[1:01:13] CAN BETTER THE STREET IN ITS
[1:01:16] ENTIRETY.
[1:01:17] UM, SO THAT I MEAN THAT'S JUST.
[1:01:19] WHERE I'M COMING FROM ON THIS.
[1:01:22] YEAH, I'LL I'LL STOP IT THERE.
[1:01:24] YEAH.
[1:01:24] NO AND.
[1:01:25] I I HEAR THAT AND THEN I GUESS
[1:01:28] THAT'S.
[1:01:29] DEFINITELY STUFF THAT WE SHOULD
[1:01:31] DISCUSS IN THE IN THE WORKING
[1:01:32] SESSION.
[1:01:34] UM ON THEN THAT I GUESS THAT
[1:01:36] AND GOES INTO THE WHOLE COST
[1:01:38] RIGHT THE WHOLE COST AND THEN
[1:01:40] WHAT GETS TRIGGERED ONCE YOU
[1:01:42] MOVE FROM A BAND-AID SOLUTION
[1:01:44] TO A UM A MORE HOLISTIC
[1:01:46] APPROACH?
[1:01:47] UM.
[1:01:48] BUT MY UNDERSTANDING AND I
[1:01:51] DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR
[1:01:53] FROM THE MAYOR ON THIS AND I
[1:01:56] JUST DID LIKE A QUICK RESEARCH
[1:01:57] ONLINE IS THAT WE HAD THE
[1:02:00] ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT
[1:02:01] TEMPORARY FIXES ARE ON OUR
[1:02:03] STREETS, UM, DUE TO STATE LAW
[1:02:06] AND I'VE SEEN UM OTHER TOWNS
[1:02:12] SEEN A RESURFACING COULD BE FOR
[1:02:14] THEY HAVE USED THAT AS A
[1:02:16] TEMPORARY FIX THE RESURFACING
[1:02:20] AS A TEMPORARY FIX.
[1:02:24] UM AND THE COST HERE UM FROM
[1:02:29] FROM THE CITY ORDINANCE IT
[1:02:32] ALREADY EXISTS IN SECTION C UM
[1:02:35] AND.
[1:02:38] I UNDER STATE LAW IT SOUNDS
[1:02:41] LIKE WE CAN ADDRESS, UM, THE
[1:02:42] DRAINAGE ISSUE.
[1:02:45] YEAH.
[1:02:47] IT JUST THAT THAT THAT'S A LOT
[1:02:48] THAT'S A LOT IF WE'RE MOVING
[1:02:50] FORWARD TO DEFINING RESURFACING
[1:02:52] AS A TEMPORARY FIX THAT THEN WE
[1:02:55] GET INTO WE CAN'T JUST SEPARATE
[1:02:58] RESURFACING FROM DRAINAGE OR
[1:03:01] ADA COMPLIANCE OR LIKE SIDEWALK
[1:03:03] WIDTH AND ALL OF THAT UNLESS
[1:03:05] THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE
[1:03:06] OWNERS WANT TO PRIVATELY DO
[1:03:07] THEMSELVES RIGHT.
[1:03:08] LIKE WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT
[1:03:10] AS LIKE THE ENTIRETY OF OF THE
[1:03:12] PROCESS.
[1:03:13] SO THEN DOES THAT INCLUDE LIKE
[1:03:16] IF WE'RE DEFINING RESURFACING
[1:03:18] AS A TEMPORARY FIX?
[1:03:20] UM AND I'M ALSO SAYING THAT
[1:03:22] YEAH AS LIKE WE HAVE THE
[1:03:24] ABILITY TO DEFINE WHAT A
[1:03:26] TEMPORARY FIX IS.
[1:03:28] RIGHT.
[1:03:28] SO I'M JUST SAYING LIKE.
[1:03:29] THAT IS AN OPTION UNDER STATE
[1:03:30] LAW.
[1:03:31] I'M JUST THROWING IDEAS OUT
[1:03:33] THERE SO THAT YOU KNOW, WHEN WE
[1:03:35] DO DIVE INTO THE WORK IN
[1:03:36] SESSION, UH, WE KNOW WHAT OUR
[1:03:38] OPTIONS ARE.
[1:03:39] OKAY.
[1:03:40] AND, UH, LIKE A PERMANENT SO
[1:03:42] I DON'T KNOW.
[1:03:43] I THINK IT'S GETTING INTO THE
[1:03:46] GRAY AREA HERE WHERE IF WE'RE
[1:03:49] RESURFACING AND BUILDING
[1:03:51] SIDEWALKS OUT AND THEN GOING
[1:03:53] UNDERGROUND AND NEEDING TO MAKE
[1:03:54] SURE THAT UTILITIES ARE UP TO
[1:03:56] CODE WHAT THAT MAY LOOK LIKE
[1:03:58] AND CAN THAT STILL BE
[1:03:59] CONSIDERED TEMPORARY.
[1:04:03] ?
[1:04:03] RIGHT.
[1:04:04] AND I'M NOT WHAT WE'RE TRYING
[1:04:06] TO DO IS JUST TO GET UM, YOU
[1:04:08] KNOW, REAL TEMPORARY FIXES, UM.
[1:04:12] TO THESE.
[1:04:13] PRIVATE WAYS KNOWING THAT, YOU
[1:04:15] KNOW, THE COST ON BRINGING IT
[1:04:17] BRING IT UP TO CODE.
[1:04:19] UH.
[1:04:20] CAN BE A LARGE AMOUNT FOR.
[1:04:22] SOME OF THESE PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:04:23] HAVE YOU KNOW MORE HOMES ON IT
[1:04:26] ?
[1:04:27] RIGHT?
[1:04:28] UM, SO IT COULD BE VERY COSTLY
[1:04:30] .
[1:04:30] I WENT THROUGH A PROCESS AND
[1:04:32] YOU HAD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 15.
[1:04:35] HOMES AND I THINK IT WAS UP
[1:04:36] CLOSE TO SIX FIGURES.
[1:04:37] FOR A PROPERTY OWNER.
[1:04:39] BUT AGAIN, LIKE WE'RE JUST TRY
[1:04:41] TO FIND A WAY.
[1:04:41] THIS ORDINANCE LOOKS TO.
[1:04:42] JUST DO A TEMPORARY FIX, GIVE
[1:04:45] THE CITY THE ABILITY TO USE
[1:04:47] ASPHALT.
[1:04:48] UM, BUT I DO HEAR.
[1:04:51] UM, THE.
[1:04:52] CONCERNS AROUND, UM, YOU
[1:04:55] KNOW, TEMPORARY BAND-AID BUT
[1:04:56] THOSE BAND-AIDS AND THOSE
[1:04:57] PLACES THAT HAVE HAD MINIMAL
[1:05:00] REPAIRS THEY THEY DO GO A LONG
[1:05:02] WAY.
[1:05:03] THEY DO.
[1:05:04] GO A LONG WAY AND AND
[1:05:05] OFTENTIMES WHAT I'VE WHAT I'VE
[1:05:08] HEARD IS THAT THERE'S YOU KNOW,
[1:05:11] IT COULD BE UH, A UM A OVERAGE
[1:05:16] OR EXTRA SUPPLY OF ASPHALT, UM.
[1:05:19] IN THE CITY.
[1:05:20] SO I THINK THAT IT DOES GIVES
[1:05:22] US THE.
[1:05:22] ABILITY AND MAYBE THAT'S HOW
[1:05:24] THE ASSESSMENT HAPPENS.
[1:05:25] BUT JUST TRYING TO GIVE US THAT
[1:05:27] FLEXIBILITY.
[1:05:28] ON REPAIRING.
[1:05:28] THESE UM, TYPE OF WAYS.
[1:05:31] IS THE TYPE OF RELIEF THAT THIS
[1:05:33] ORDINANCE LOOKS TO SOLVE.
[1:05:35] UH.
[1:05:36] MY MY MY LAST QUESTION.
[1:05:38] UM, IS AROUND.
[1:05:43] HOW MANY HOW MANY AND YOU MIGHT
[1:05:46] HAVE NOTICED.
[1:05:47] MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR
[1:05:48] TODD.
[1:05:48] HOW MANY.
[1:05:50] STREETS HAVE.
[1:05:51] GONE THROUGH THE PICK.
[1:05:52] PROCESS AND THEN ONCE.
[1:05:54] THEY REALIZE.
[1:05:55] HOW MUCH THE.
[1:05:56] COST IS YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDED.
[1:05:58] THEY NO LONGER.
[1:05:59] WANT TO PURSUE.
[1:06:00] DO YOU DO YOU.
[1:06:01] KNOW THAT I.
[1:06:02] KNOW OF ONE SHARON STREET?
[1:06:04] OKAY.
[1:06:05] UM.
[1:06:06] WE DIDN'T DISCUSS.
[1:06:07] STREETS THAT DIDN'T.
[1:06:09] GO THROUGH.
[1:06:09] UM, I'M SURE TODD CAN GET YOU
[1:06:11] THAT INFO.
[1:06:12] YEAH.
[1:06:12] OKAY.
[1:06:13] YEAH.
[1:06:14] THAT'S AND AND AND DO YOU KNOW,
[1:06:16] LIKE A RANGE OF WHAT THESE
[1:06:21] COSTS WILL CONVERT CONVERTING
[1:06:22] AND I KNOW I'VE TALKED ABOUT
[1:06:23] CONVERTING THIS IS ABOUT
[1:06:24] TEMPORARY.
[1:06:25] FIXES BUT THIS IS JUST JUST
[1:06:27] FOR.
[1:06:28] MY CURIOSITY.
[1:06:30] ARE YOU TALKING LIKE TO TO GO
[1:06:32] THROUGH THE PROCESS.
[1:06:33] IN THE ADA.
[1:06:34] COMPLIANT AND ALL THAT STUFF?
[1:06:35] WELL I'D BE TAKING A BUT I'D BE
[1:06:37] TAKING A WILD GUESS.
[1:06:40] UM YOU KNOW SO IT WOULD IT
[1:06:43] WOULD DEPEND ON THE STREET.
[1:06:43] IT WOULD DEPEND.
[1:06:44] RIGHT?
[1:06:44] YEAH.
[1:06:45] YEAH DEFINITELY WOULD BE
[1:06:47] DIFFERENT.
[1:06:47] YEAH.
[1:06:48] WHAT'S EXISTING IF THERE'S IF
[1:06:50] THERE'S WATER AND SEWER
[1:06:51] CALCULATIONS AT THIS PRIVATE
[1:06:52] GAUGE.
[1:06:53] RIGHT NOW AND I GET.
[1:06:55] IT I GUESS I CAN GIVE YOU A
[1:06:57] NUMBER BUT DON'T HOLD IT, YOU
[1:06:58] KNOW?
[1:06:59] YEAH.
[1:06:59] YEAH, I REALLY HAVE NO IDEA.
[1:07:01] THE ONE PRIVATE WAY.
[1:07:03] PROCESS I WENT THROUGH, UH, IT
[1:07:06] WAS ACTUALLY A NEW DEVELOPMENT
[1:07:09] .
[1:07:09] THEY WERE ALL NEW HOMES
[1:07:10] PROBABLY NO LESS THAN TEN YEARS
[1:07:11] OLD.
[1:07:12] UH, ON A NEW STREET.
[1:07:15] UM.
[1:07:15] AND TO.
[1:07:16] CONVERT THAT PRIVATE WAY WITH.
[1:07:18] YOU WHICH WAS A NEW STREET
[1:07:19] OVER TO A PUBLIC WAY.
[1:07:21] UH, THAT THAT COST.
[1:07:23] RESIDENT.
[1:07:23] UH.
[1:07:24] UP TO SIX FIGURES ON A
[1:07:26] STREET THAT WAS ONLY TEN YEARS
[1:07:27] OLD.
[1:07:27] OKAY, JUST IMAGINE ON ALL THE
[1:07:29] STREET.
[1:07:30] UM, BUT, UM, SUPERINTENDING THE
[1:07:32] DATE.
[1:07:34] OH, MY LAST QUESTION.
[1:07:35] WHEN IT COMES TO FILLING THE
[1:07:38] POTHOLES, WOULD.
[1:07:38] YOU NEED.
[1:07:40] ADDITIONAL, UM, EMPLOYEES OR
[1:07:44] WOULD THAT BE.
[1:07:45] AN ADDITIONAL COST?
[1:07:46] UM, HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT YOUR
[1:07:49] ABILITY.
[1:07:49] TO.
[1:07:50] UM, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT JUST
[1:07:53] THE.
[1:07:53] FILLING OF THE POTHOLES?
[1:07:55] I MEAN, SURE, THERE'S MAN HOURS
[1:07:56] DEVOTED TO IT.
[1:07:57] WE'RE DOING IT NOW IN CERTAIN
[1:08:00] CASES.
[1:08:00] UM, WE ARE.
[1:08:02] BELOW STAFFING LEVEL.
[1:08:04] UM, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFFING YOU
[1:08:05] KNOW, WE HAVE OPEN POSITIONS,
[1:08:06] MANY OPEN POSITIONS THAT I
[1:08:07] WOULD LOVE TO GET FILLED.
[1:08:09] UM, NO, I MEAN WE'RE DOING IT
[1:08:12] NOW.
[1:08:12] YEAH.
[1:08:12] THERE'S A THERE'S A MAN OUR
[1:08:14] COST AND MATERIAL COST, YOU
[1:08:17] KNOW, WHICH IS RELATIVELY SMALL
[1:08:19] WHEN COMPARED TO RECONSTRUCTION
[1:08:20] .
[1:08:22] ALL RIGHT.
[1:08:23] WELL THANK YOU SUPERINTENDENT.
[1:08:25] YOU'RE WELCOME.
[1:08:31] SORRY I WAS MUTED.
[1:08:34] UM OKAY.
[1:08:35] UH, THIS WAS THIS WAS A GREAT
[1:08:36] CONVERSATION.
[1:08:37] I DEFINITELY THINK THAT THERE'S
[1:08:39] MORE TO CONSIDER.
[1:08:45] UM THERE'S JUST YEAH THERE'S A
[1:08:47] LOT HERE.
[1:08:48] UM, AND I KNOW IT IS JUST
[1:08:49] TRYING TO SEEK A TEMPORARY FIX
[1:08:51] .
[1:08:51] I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A
[1:08:52] BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT, YOU
[1:08:54] KNOW, MAXIMIZING CITY DOLLARS
[1:08:56] AND, UM, WHAT MAY WHAT MAY MAKE
[1:09:00] SENSE FOR EACH NEIGHBORHOOD OR
[1:09:02] EVEN ON AN INDIVIDUAL STREET.
[1:09:04] UM, AND I WE DEFINITELY HAVE TO
[1:09:06] IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE THIS
[1:09:07] FORWARD JUST THINKING THROUGH
[1:09:08] IT, WE'D HAVE TO SET UP MAYBE A
[1:09:11] SEPARATE TRACK WITHIN THE PARK
[1:09:14] TO DO THIS WHERE IF IT'S NOT
[1:09:15] THE ENTIRE BETTERMENT PROCESS
[1:09:18] AND IT'S JUST RESURFACING.
[1:09:21] WELL ACTUALLY NO I I SAY THAT
[1:09:22] OUT LOUD NOW OR IF THEY JUST
[1:09:23] WANT TO DO THE TEMPORARY FIX.
[1:09:25] UM, I'D LOVE TO TALK TO MAYBE
[1:09:28] TODD MY OR UM, I FORGOT HER
[1:09:31] NAME.
[1:09:32] I KNOW SHE HAS GLASSES.
[1:09:32] AMY CALL ME.
[1:09:34] YEAH.
[1:09:34] AMY ABOUT WHAT THEIR PROCESS
[1:09:36] LOOKS LIKE AND IF THERE WOULD
[1:09:37] NEED TO BE A SEPARATE TRACK FOR
[1:09:39] SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
[1:09:41] UM, OKAY.
[1:09:42] WELL, I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER
[1:09:44] COLLEAGUES ON.
[1:09:45] WE'LL GO TO PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
[1:09:47] I'LL WHILE WE SET UP FOLKS WHO
[1:09:49] HAVE SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC
[1:09:50] TESTIMONY, MAYBE WE CAN TEE UP
[1:09:51] THE VIDEOS AND, UM, AND GO FROM
[1:09:55] THERE.
[1:09:55] I THINK WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC
[1:09:58] TESTIMONY, UM, VIDEOS THAT WE
[1:10:00] NEED TO WEIGH.
[1:10:03] THERE WE GO.
[1:10:04] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[1:10:08] HI.
[1:10:09] MY NAME IS DOUG WOODHOUSE.
[1:10:10] I'M A RESIDENT OF BOSTON
[1:10:12] ROSLINDALE.
[1:10:12] I ALSO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY.
[1:10:15] I JUST WANT TO, UH, SPEAK IN
[1:10:17] SUPPORT OF THE, UM,
[1:10:19] COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND
[1:10:21] TO THANK HIM AND ALSO
[1:10:23] COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR
[1:10:23] CO-SPONSORING IT.
[1:10:25] UH, OUR ROAD IS IN HORRIBLE
[1:10:27] DISREPAIR.
[1:10:28] UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO MY WIFE
[1:10:29] AND I PAID A PAVING COMPANY TO
[1:10:31] FIX UP THE POTHOLES IN FRONT
[1:10:32] OF OUR HOUSE WHICH THEY DID AND
[1:10:35] WHICH IS NOW BACK TO BE IN
[1:10:36] HORRIBLE SHAPE.
[1:10:38] UM, THIS IS BECAUSE THE
[1:10:39] STRUCTURE HERE IS PARTICULARLY
[1:10:40] DANGEROUS IN THE WINTER WHEN
[1:10:41] THE SNOW MELTS, UM AND THEN
[1:10:43] FREEZES AGAIN JUST BECOMES ALL
[1:10:45] ICE.
[1:10:45] UH, WE HAD SEVERAL DAYS WHERE
[1:10:47] THE POST OFFICE DIDN'T DELIVER
[1:10:49] MAIL FOR US BECAUSE THEY SAID
[1:10:50] IT WAS TOO DANGEROUS FOR THE,
[1:10:52] UH, MAIL CARRIERS TO WALK DOWN
[1:10:53] OUR STREET.
[1:10:54] UM, UH, THERE ARE ELDERLY
[1:10:58] PEOPLE WHO LIVE HERE WHO USED
[1:10:59] TO RIDE.
[1:11:00] THERE ARE, UH, CHILDREN HERE
[1:11:02] WHO USE, UH, DOOR TO DOOR BUS
[1:11:04] SERVICE.
[1:11:05] UM, BUS HAS HAD TO COME DOWN
[1:11:07] THIS ROAD.
[1:11:08] I WORRY THAT AT SOME POINT, UH
[1:11:10] ,TRASH TRUCKS WON'T BE ABLE TO
[1:11:11] COME DOWN THIS ROAD OR, UM, FOR
[1:11:14] RECYCLING OR ANY OF THAT.
[1:11:16] UH, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK TO MY
[1:11:19] NEIGHBORS FINANCE OF THIS, BUT
[1:11:21] I CAN SAY WITH CONFIDENCE I
[1:11:23] DON'T THINK OUR STREET CAN
[1:11:26] MAINTAIN, UH, THIS ROAD ON OUR
[1:11:29] OWN.
[1:11:29] I WOULD REALLY LIKE IF THE CITY
[1:11:31] OF BOSTON COULD HELP US WITH
[1:11:32] THESE.
[1:11:32] ANOTHER GIANT POTHOLE.
[1:11:34] I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF
[1:11:36] BOSTON WERE ABLE TO HELP US
[1:11:37] KIND OF MAINTAIN THE
[1:11:39] INFRASTRUCTURE HERE.
[1:11:40] UM, ANYHOW, THIS WHOLE THIS
[1:11:43] WHOLE ROAD IS JUST, UH, REALLY
[1:11:46] BAD.
[1:11:46] IT'S RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT JUST
[1:11:48] RAINED.
[1:11:48] YOU CAN'T EVEN SEE HOW DEEP
[1:11:49] THEY ARE.
[1:11:50] BUT THAT BIG ONE AND THAT ONE
[1:11:51] IS INCREDIBLY DEEP.
[1:11:53] UM, WE CAN'T DRIVE IF YOU HAVE
[1:11:56] A, UH, LIKE A SUV OR A CRV OR
[1:11:59] ANYTHING LIKE THAT, YOU CAN GET
[1:12:00] DOWN THIS WAY.
[1:12:00] BUT IF YOU HAVE A SMALLER CAR
[1:12:02] THAN THAT IT SCRAPES THE BOTTOM
[1:12:03] .
[1:12:04] UM I CAN'T I COULD TELL YOU
[1:12:07] ACTUALLY CAUSE I SAVE ALL THE
[1:12:08] RECEIPTS BUT UH, YOU KNOW, THE
[1:12:10] AMOUNT OF TIMES I'VE HAD TO,
[1:12:12] UH, REPLACED MY TIRES BECAUSE
[1:12:14] THEY'VE GOTTEN DAMAGE ON THIS
[1:12:15] ROAD.
[1:12:16] UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY IT'S
[1:12:18] MONEY THAT I CAN'T BE PUTTING
[1:12:19] TOWARDS MAINTAINING THE ROADS.
[1:12:20] I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP MY
[1:12:22] CAR ROLLING.
[1:12:24] SO ANYHOW, I JUST WANTED TO
[1:12:25] GIVE YOU A A QUICK TOUR OVER MY
[1:12:27] SHOULDER OF OUR ROAD AND, UH, I
[1:12:30] JUST HOPE THAT THE CITY WILL,
[1:12:33] UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVE
[1:12:35] COUNCILOR WORLDS PROPOSAL AND
[1:12:37] THAT, UH, SOME MAINTENANCE
[1:12:38] COULD USING ASPHALT COULD BE
[1:12:39] DONE ON OUR ON OUR STREET
[1:12:41] BECAUSE IT REALLY, REALLY NEEDS
[1:12:42] IT AND WE REALLY CAN'T UM I
[1:12:46] REALLY DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT
[1:12:48] WITHOUT YOUR HELP.
[1:12:49] ALL RIGHT.
[1:12:49] THANKS SO MUCH.
[1:12:51] HI EVERYONE.
[1:12:52] MY NAME IS FAMED LUMLEY.
[1:12:53] MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED TO
[1:12:55] BOSTON A YEAR AND A HALF AGO
[1:12:57] AND WE'RE RESIDENTS
[1:12:59] OF DORCHESTER LIVING ON A
[1:13:00] PRIVATE WAY.
[1:13:00] I'M SUBMITTING THIS VIDEO IN
[1:13:03] SUPPORT OF THE PROPOSED
[1:13:04] ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS PRIVATELY
[1:13:06] POTHOLES TO INCLUDE ASPHALT AS
[1:13:08] ONE OF THE REPAIR METHODS ON
[1:13:10] PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:13:11] WHILE I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY
[1:13:13] SHOULD BE RESURFACING AND
[1:13:15] COMPLETELY REPLACING THESE
[1:13:17] PRIVATE WAVES THAT ARE IN
[1:13:19] COMPLETE DISREPAIR, I DO
[1:13:20] BELIEVE THAT THIS PROPOSED
[1:13:22] ORDINANCE IS A STEP IN THE
[1:13:24] RIGHT DIRECTION TO MAKING SURE
[1:13:25] THAT PRIVATE WAYS ARE SAFE TO
[1:13:28] TRAVEL ON.
[1:13:29] AS YOU'LL SEE FROM THE PHOTOS
[1:13:31] THAT I'M GOING TO SHARE RIGHT
[1:13:33] NOW, THE PRIVATE WAY ON WHICH
[1:13:35] WE LIVE WAS IN MAJOR DISREPAIR
[1:13:37] UNTIL WE WERE ABLE TO GET THE
[1:13:39] POTHOLES FILLED ON THE STREET.
[1:13:41] UM IT WAS INCREDIBLY UNSAFE.
[1:13:43] THERE WERE PEOPLE TRIPPING ON
[1:13:45] THE HOLES BECAUSE OF HOW DEEP
[1:13:47] THEY HAD BECOME, AND IT LOOKS
[1:13:49] LIKE THEY WERE IN DISREPAIR FOR
[1:13:50] A NUMBER OF YEARS.
[1:13:51] UM, EVEN BEFORE WE MOVED IN
[1:13:53] THERE WAS STANDING WATER IN
[1:13:56] EVERY SINGLE POTHOLE BECAUSE
[1:13:57] OF HOW DEEP THEY WERE EVERY
[1:13:58] SINGLE TIME IT RAINED AND THE
[1:14:02] VEHICLES ON OUR STREET WOULD BE
[1:14:04] TRYING TO DODGE THE NUMBER
[1:14:07] OF POTHOLES ON THE STREET
[1:14:08] BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF GETTING
[1:14:11] THE TIRES DAMAGED.
[1:14:13] I SUPPORT THE ADDITION
[1:14:15] OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES
[1:14:16] OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED
[1:14:17] TO REPAIR POTHOLES ON PRIVATE
[1:14:19] WAYS BECAUSE THE ASPHALT
[1:14:21] PROVIDES DURABILITY UNDER HEAVY
[1:14:24] TRAFFIC AND WEATHER CONDITIONS.
[1:14:26] I BELIEVE THAT THE ADDITION
[1:14:27] OF ASPHALT TO THE TYPES
[1:14:29] OF MATERIALS THAT CAN BE USED
[1:14:31] TO REPAIR POTHOLES WILL ADDRESS
[1:14:33] THE NUMBER OF CONCERNS THAT I
[1:14:35] RAISED AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS
[1:14:36] VIDEO WHICH TO RECAP AGAIN ARE
[1:14:39] SAFETY ISSUES THAT I HAD PUBLIC
[1:14:40] HEALTH CONCERNS WITH STANDING
[1:14:42] WATER ISSUES AND THE POTENTIAL
[1:14:45] DAMAGE TO CARS BECAUSE OF HOW
[1:14:47] DEEP POTHOLES HAVE BECOME ON A
[1:14:49] NUMBER OF PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:14:51] FRANKLY, I NEVER THOUGHT I
[1:14:52] WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO'S MAKING A
[1:14:54] VIDEO ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE
[1:14:56] OF MATERIALS TO BE USED TO
[1:14:57] REPAIR POTHOLES, BUT HERE WE
[1:14:59] ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY
[1:15:00] THOUGH MY HUSBAND AND I ARE
[1:15:02] TAXPAYERS JUST LIKE ALL OF THE
[1:15:04] PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON OUR STREET
[1:15:06] AND WE'RE ALL HOPING THAT OUR
[1:15:09] TAXPAYER DOLLARS CAN GO TOWARDS
[1:15:10] THE REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE
[1:15:12] OF OUR ROADS BECAUSE WE USE OUR
[1:15:16] STREETS.
[1:15:16] BUT SO DO PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE
[1:15:18] ON OUR STREETS.
[1:15:19] AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT THIS
[1:15:21] ORDINANCE PASSES AND WE CAN
[1:15:23] TAKE A STEP IN THE RIGHT
[1:15:24] DIRECTION.
[1:15:25] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME
[1:15:26] AND THANK YOU FOR HEARING
[1:15:27] ME OUT.
[1:15:31] GREAT.
[1:15:32] THANK YOU TO THOSE RESIDENTS
[1:15:33] FOR THEIR VIDEOS.
[1:15:34] UM NEXT WE HAVE PUBLIC
[1:15:35] TESTIMONY.
[1:15:36] I THINK I WILL JUST TAKE A JUST
[1:15:38] A QUICK MINUTE BECAUSE I WOULD
[1:15:39] LOVE TO GET THESE QUESTIONS ON
[1:15:40] THE RECORD AND THEN MAKE SURE
[1:15:41] THAT WE GET THIS INFORMATION
[1:15:42] MOVING FORWARD.
[1:15:43] UM, SO UM, JUST UH TO
[1:15:46] SUPERINTENDENT NE IF IT'S OKAY
[1:15:47] IF YOU DON'T HAVE THESE
[1:15:48] QUESTIONS NOW BUT I WOULD LOVE
[1:15:50] LIKE A FOLLOW UP FROM YOU OR
[1:15:51] YOUR YOUR DEPARTMENT JUST
[1:15:53] THINKING ABOUT THE TEMPORARY
[1:15:54] FIXES.
[1:15:55] UM, ON AVERAGE HOW LONG DOES IT
[1:15:57] TAKE FOR ASPHALT IN PARTICULAR
[1:15:59] TO DEGRADE IF UTILIZE TO FILL
[1:16:02] POTHOLES AND THEN HOW?
[1:16:06] THE SECOND QUESTION IS HOW MUCH
[1:16:07] WOULD IT COST WITH UM INITIAL
[1:16:11] REPAIRS IF WE WOULD IF WE WERE
[1:16:14] TO PUSH THIS FORWARD LIKE
[1:16:15] ACROSS THE CITY AND THEN YEAR
[1:16:18] OVER YEAR WHAT THAT ANNUAL
[1:16:21] MAINTENANCE COST IS.
[1:16:24] WELL I'LL ANSWER THE FIRST ONE.
[1:16:26] I MEAN THE SECOND ONE FIRST.
[1:16:27] YOU KNOW, IN A PERFECT WORLD IF
[1:16:28] WE HAVE A SNAP OUR FINGERS AND
[1:16:31] MAGICALLY JUST RECONSTRUCT ALL
[1:16:32] THE PRIVATE PRIVATE WAYS AND
[1:16:34] THEY HAD YOU KNOW, THEY WERE
[1:16:36] COMPLIANT AND THEY HAD ENOUGH
[1:16:37] SPACE UM, WE CAN PROBABLY GET
[1:16:40] YOU A NUMBER, YOU KNOW, BASED
[1:16:42] ON THE MILEAGE.
[1:16:43] UM, YOU KNOW, AND MULTIPLY YOU
[1:16:46] KNOW, MULTIPLY THAT BY WHAT
[1:16:47] WE'RE PAYING ON PUBLIC STREETS
[1:16:49] .
[1:16:49] UM, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PROBABLY
[1:16:51] DO THAT.
[1:16:53] UM, AS FAR AS THE FIRST
[1:16:55] QUESTION FOR, UM, HOW LONG
[1:16:58] OF IF ASKED WHAT WAS USED FOR A
[1:16:59] POTHOLE PATCH.
[1:17:00] SO WE ARE USING ASPHALT NOW TO
[1:17:04] PATCH PRIVATE WAYS IF THEY'RE
[1:17:06] IF THE EXISTING CONDITION IS
[1:17:08] ASPHALT.
[1:17:08] UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, UM, THAT
[1:17:12] MIGHT BE ANOTHER RULE THAT I'VE
[1:17:13] BEEN BREAKING FOR YEARS.
[1:17:15] UM, BUT WE HAVE WE DO DO THAT.
[1:17:18] UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE
[1:17:21] PERFECT WORLD IF WE WERE TO
[1:17:23] PATCH A HOLE WITH ASPHALT AND
[1:17:24] THERE WERE NO UNDERLYING
[1:17:26] CONDITIONS.
[1:17:26] RIGHT.
[1:17:27] SO NO WATER RUNNING?
[1:17:28] NO.
[1:17:29] YOU KNOW.
[1:17:29] UM, SOIL UNDERNEATH DEGRADING.
[1:17:32] IN 20, 30 YEARS ASPHALT HAS A
[1:17:34] VERY LIGHTWEIGHT USE.
[1:17:35] IT'S VERY DURABLE WHEN IT'S
[1:17:37] NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVELY
[1:17:40] AFFECTED WATER UTILITY CUTS YOU
[1:17:42] KNOW THAT THAT.
[1:17:43] THAT TYPE OF THING.
[1:17:44] YOU KNOW, IT DOES TAKE A LONG
[1:17:46] TIME.
[1:17:47] FOR ASPHALT TO BREAK DOWN, UM,
[1:17:49] 20, 30 YEARS EASILY.
[1:17:52] OKAY.
[1:17:52] AND THIS IS PROBABLY A DUMB
[1:17:54] QUESTION AND I'M.
[1:17:54] SORRY THIS IS THE FOLLOW UP
[1:17:55] QUESTION.
[1:17:55] THE ASPHALT THAT YOU'RE USING
[1:17:57] IS THIS THE SAME THIS IS THE
[1:17:59] SAME MATERIAL THAT LIKE FLAKES
[1:18:01] OFF WHEN, UH, LIKE SNOW COMES
[1:18:05] OR YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE THE
[1:18:06] BLACK FLAKY MATERIAL THAT WE
[1:18:08] SEE MAYBE ON SIDEWALKS AND
[1:18:10] DEFINITELY STREETS.
[1:18:12] SO IT'S NOT THE SAME ASPHALT
[1:18:14] THAT WE USE TO PAVE ROADWAYS.
[1:18:16] IT'S CALLED A TENNIS UM TENNIS
[1:18:19] COURT OR TENNIS COURT TOP MIX.
[1:18:21] BASICALLY IT HAS A SMALLER
[1:18:22] AGGREGATE.
[1:18:25] UM SO IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S IT'S
[1:18:26] FINER IT'S IT'S.
[1:18:28] A YOU KNOW, IT'S THE THE
[1:18:31] ASPHALT FOR A ROADWAY IS BUILT
[1:18:32] WITH LARGER AT A GROUP AT GREAT
[1:18:34] MEANING IT'S YOU KNOW UM YOU
[1:18:35] KNOW THE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS BY
[1:18:37] TWO THIS IS ADDED TO A LARGER
[1:18:39] ROCK OR A STONE UM AND THAT
[1:18:42] BINDS TOGETHER AND THAT MAKES A
[1:18:44] VERY DURABLE ROADWAY.
[1:18:45] RIGHT.
[1:18:45] SO IT'S VERY STRONG.
[1:18:47] UM THE POTHOLES THE TOP MIX
[1:18:49] THAT WE USE FOR POTHOLES IS
[1:18:50] ALSO VERY STRONG.
[1:18:51] IT'S JUST USED WITH UH, SAND OR
[1:18:54] VERY, VERY SMALL STONES.
[1:18:56] UM, IT PROVIDES A BETTER SEAL
[1:18:58] IF YOU WILL.
[1:18:59] SO BE IT ADHERED ADHERES BETTER
[1:19:02] SO WATER DOESN'T ISN'T ABLE TO
[1:19:03] SEEP IN.
[1:19:05] UM CHEAPER WHICH IS WHAT JUST
[1:19:07] JUST POP US, UM, EASY TO WORK
[1:19:09] WITH.
[1:19:10] UM, SO YEAH SO IT'S YOU KNOW,
[1:19:13] IT'S RELATIVELY THE SAME.
[1:19:15] OKAY.
[1:19:16] THANK YOU.
[1:19:16] UM I APOLOGIZE THANK YOU FOR
[1:19:18] THE FOLKS ON PUBLIC TESTIMONY
[1:19:19] FOR INDULGE ME.
[1:19:20] UM, WE'LL GO TO VIRTUAL
[1:19:21] TESTIMONY WE HAVE WE'LL START
[1:19:22] WITH NANCY.
[1:19:23] UH, RICK AND THEN TERESA.
[1:19:27] I APOLOGIZE IF I'M SAYING YOUR
[1:19:28] NAME INCORRECTLY.
[1:19:28] UM, THEN WE HAVE TWO MORE FOLKS
[1:19:30] SIGNED UP, BUT WE'LL START WITH
[1:19:31] NANCY.
[1:19:31] UM, NANCY, PLEASE UNMUTE
[1:19:34] YOURSELF.
[1:19:34] UH, INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOUR
[1:19:36] AFFILIATION AND YOU HAVE TWO
[1:19:38] MINUTES.
[1:19:42] HI.
[1:19:42] I'M JUST GOING TO READ THIS.
[1:19:44] THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION
[1:19:45] .
[1:19:46] UM, MY NAME IS NANCY LEO AND I
[1:19:48] HAVE LIVED ON STELLA ROAD A
[1:19:50] PRIVATE WAY IN ROSLINDALE SINCE
[1:19:52] 1988.
[1:19:53] STELLA ROAD IS BETWEEN AMERICAN
[1:19:56] LEGION HIGHWAY AND HYDE PARK
[1:19:58] OF.
[1:19:59] THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR
[1:20:02] CREATING THIS ORDINANCE.
[1:20:03] I SUPPORT DOCKET 0807 ORDINANCE
[1:20:07] TO ADDRESS PRIVATE WAYS WAY
[1:20:10] POTHOLES.
[1:20:11] THAT SAID, THIS IS ONLY THE
[1:20:13] START TO ADDRESSING A LONG
[1:20:14] STANDING PROBLEM DUE TO
[1:20:16] ANTIQUATED LAWS OVER 100 YEARS
[1:20:19] AGO WHEN THIS FARMLAND AREA WAS
[1:20:21] DEVELOPED, STELLA ROAD WAS LEFT
[1:20:23] AS A PRIVATE WAY.
[1:20:25] COMMON PRACTICE IN THE CITY AND
[1:20:26] ACROSS THE STATE.
[1:20:27] WHEN I PURCHASED MY HOME 38
[1:20:30] YEARS AGO STILL A ROAD WAS IN
[1:20:33] DISREPAIR.
[1:20:34] A PRIVATE WAY IS NOT A MUST
[1:20:36] HAVE ON A HOMEBUYING LIST.
[1:20:38] IT COMES WITH THE PROPERTY
[1:20:40] PRIVATE WEIGHS A HEAVILY
[1:20:41] TRAFFICKED BY THE PUBLIC
[1:20:43] INCLUDING EMERGENCY VEHICLES
[1:20:45] NOT SIMPLY USED BY THE CURRENT
[1:20:47] PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS.
[1:20:49] CITY INITIATIVES SUCH AS
[1:20:51] CUMMINGS STREET HAVE
[1:20:52] DRAMATICALLY INCREASED TRAFFIC
[1:20:54] ON PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:20:57] PRIVATE WAYS HAVE BEEN A
[1:20:58] GIVEAWAY FROM THE CITY TO
[1:21:00] DEVELOPERS FOR OVER 100 YEARS.
[1:21:03] DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE REQUIRED
[1:21:05] TO BUILD ROADS THAT MEET THE
[1:21:06] CITY STATE STANDARDS AND NOT
[1:21:09] SHIFT THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND
[1:21:11] COST ONTO FUTURE HOMEOWNERS OR
[1:21:13] BLAME THIRD PARTY CONTRACTORS
[1:21:15] FOR SUBSTANDARD ROADS.
[1:21:18] CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT BE
[1:21:20] RESPONSIBLE FOR SWEET DEALS
[1:21:22] GIVING TO DEVELOPERS FIVE, TEN,
[1:21:24] 50 YEARS AGO CONSIDERING THE
[1:21:28] CONVERSION OF PRIVATE WAYS TO
[1:21:30] PUBLIC ROADS.
[1:21:31] CURRENT RESIDENTS SHOULD NOT
[1:21:33] SHOULD NOT ASSUME ADDITIONAL
[1:21:35] COST AND INCREASE TAXES.
[1:21:37] PRIVATE WAY RESIDENTS PAY CITY
[1:21:39] AND STATE TAXES WITH A PORTION
[1:21:42] OF THOSE BUDGETS GOING TO
[1:21:44] REPAIR ROADS.
[1:21:45] NONE OF THEIR TAX DOLLARS
[1:21:47] REPAIR THEIR PRIVATE WAYS DUE
[1:21:49] TO OUTDATED LAWS.
[1:21:51] THESE RESIDENTS ARE BEING ASKED
[1:21:52] TO PAY TWICE.
[1:21:54] PLEASE DON'T LET THIS ORDINANCE
[1:21:56] BE THE END OF THE DISCUSSION.
[1:21:58] I JUST WANT TO ADD TWO THINGS
[1:22:00] FROM THE CONVERSATION IS THAT
[1:22:04] UM YES THERE ARE SOME RESIDENTS
[1:22:06] AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED
[1:22:08] HE LIKES HIS DEAD END STREET
[1:22:09] THE WAY IT IS.
[1:22:10] STILL THE ROADS ARE CUT
[1:22:12] THROUGH, IT IS USED AS A CUT
[1:22:14] THROUGH AND IT GETS WORSE AND
[1:22:16] WORSE OVER THE LAST HUNDRED
[1:22:18] YEARS.
[1:22:18] THE OTHER THING IS UM, IN TERMS
[1:22:22] OF BUDGETING I THINK THAT
[1:22:24] HERE'S A CREATIVE FINANCIAL
[1:22:26] CONCEPT THAT THE RESIDENTS ON A
[1:22:28] PRIVATE WAY.
[1:22:30] ALL MY TAXES ALL THEIR TAXES ON
[1:22:32] THEIR PRIVATE WAY GO INTO A
[1:22:34] SPECIAL FUND, NOT GO INTO THE
[1:22:36] WHOLE GENERAL BUZZ BUDGET FOR 5
[1:22:38] OR 10 YEARS AND THEN THAT MONEY
[1:22:40] CAN BE USED TO REPAIR THAT
[1:22:42] STREET.
[1:22:42] SOME CREATIVE SOLUTIONS HAVE TO
[1:22:45] BE FOUND FOR THESE ANTIQUATED
[1:22:47] LAWS AND AS UM UH GABRIEL'S THE
[1:22:51] PART THAT SAID WE NEED WE DO
[1:22:53] NEED TO CHANGE THE LAWS.
[1:22:55] IT MAY TAKE TIME BUT PLEASE
[1:22:57] ADDRESS CHANGING THESE LAWS AND
[1:22:59] EVERYTHING ISN'T A ONE SIZE
[1:23:01] FITS ALL.
[1:23:01] AS YOU MENTIONED, MY STREET
[1:23:03] ISN'T WIDE ENOUGH.
[1:23:04] MAYBE SIDEWALKS CAN'T BE ON
[1:23:06] BOTH SIDES BUT THEY COULD BE ON
[1:23:08] HAVE ONE SIDE.
[1:23:09] THERE NEEDS TO BE CREATIVE
[1:23:10] THINKING TO REALLY CHANGE THIS.
[1:23:12] IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S JUST BEEN
[1:23:14] KICKED DOWN THE ROAD FOR 100
[1:23:16] YEARS.
[1:23:16] THANK YOU.
[1:23:18] THANK YOU NANCY.
[1:23:19] UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE RICK AND
[1:23:21] THEN THERESA AND THEN SHIRLEY.
[1:23:41] OR BAYSHORE.
[1:23:43] THERE WE GO.
[1:23:45] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR.
[1:23:47] THIS, UH, THIS HEARING OUT.
[1:23:50] ON MY COUNSELOR, UH, BRIAN
[1:23:52] WORRELL.
[1:23:53] I WANT TO THANK HIM FOR BEING
[1:23:55] INVOLVED IN THIS AND, UH, THE
[1:23:58] COMMISSIONER IT'S, A, UH, VERY
[1:24:00] INFORMATIVE PRESENTATION.
[1:24:01] UH, IT MADE THE COMPLEXITY
[1:24:03] OF THIS PROBLEM.
[1:24:05] UM, I'M A CO-LEADER OF THE
[1:24:06] MOUNT HOPE CANTERBURY
[1:24:07] NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION ALONG
[1:24:08] AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.
[1:24:11] UM, I DID A COUNT AND THE OTHER
[1:24:14] DAY WE HAVE, UH, TEN PRIVATE
[1:24:17] ROADS, UH, ADDING UP TO 40
[1:24:20] 500FT.
[1:24:21] UH, THAT ONLY TWO OF THEM ARE
[1:24:23] DEAD ENDS AND THERE'S, YOU
[1:24:25] KNOW, DON'T GET MUCH TRAFFIC
[1:24:26] THE LAST WHILE, UH,
[1:24:29] INTERESTINGLY, YOUR FIRST VIDEO
[1:24:32] AND, UH, THE VIDEO FROM NANCY I
[1:24:34] BOTH UH UH, MEMBERS OF OUR
[1:24:37] COMMUNITY UH, THE FIRST ONE
[1:24:39] WITH THE BRADSTREET ROAD WHICH
[1:24:42] ALMOST INTERSECTS STELLA AND ON
[1:24:45] WHAT YOU SEE AND FROM THE VIDEO
[1:24:49] AND FROM NANCY'S PRESENTATION,
[1:24:50] WHAT YOU HEAR FROM NANCY'S
[1:24:52] PRESENTATION IS THE TYPICAL
[1:24:54] PROBLEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
[1:24:56] UM.
[1:24:58] I WON'T REPEAT WHAT EVERYBODY
[1:25:00] ELSE HAS SAID, BUT IT'S, UH
[1:25:02] IT'S SORT OF UNBELIEVABLE.
[1:25:04] WE'LL BE SEEING A ROAD LIKE
[1:25:05] THAT IN SUCH TERRIBLE CONDITION
[1:25:07] UH, HERE IN BOSTON AND AND UH,
[1:25:10] GOING ON FOR DECADES AND WE'RE
[1:25:12] IN THIS LOGJAM AT UH IT'S A I
[1:25:15] CAN SEE IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT,
[1:25:17] UM, IT'S A WORKING CLASS
[1:25:19] NEIGHBORHOOD.
[1:25:21] MANY, MANY PEOPLE ARE HAVING
[1:25:22] TROUBLE JUST PAYING THEIR
[1:25:23] MORTGAGES TO TAKE ON AN
[1:25:25] EXPENSIVE TAKE TO DO THIS
[1:25:26] PRIVATELY IS JUST NOT GOING TO
[1:25:27] HAPPEN YET WE CONTINUE TO HAVE
[1:25:30] THESE, UH, TERRIBLE ROADWAYS.
[1:25:33] UM, I WAS THINKING WHEN WE'RE,
[1:25:36] UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS, UH, WE
[1:25:38] HAVE PUBLIC ROADS IN OUR
[1:25:40] NEIGHBORHOOD THAT DON'T HAVE
[1:25:42] SIDEWALKS.
[1:25:43] UM, CANTERBURY PART OF, UH,
[1:25:47] CANTERBURY.
[1:25:48] UM.
[1:25:49] ,ROAD AND UM, MOUNT CALVARY.
[1:25:53] UH, AND IT WOULD BE VERY
[1:25:55] DIFFICULT NOW IN SOME WAYS AND
[1:25:58] SOME PARTS OF THEM TO PUT IN
[1:25:59] SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THE ROAD IS
[1:26:00] SO NARROW LIKE ON ONE SIDE IT'S
[1:26:02] A DROP OFF AND THE OTHER SIDE
[1:26:04] OF SOMEONE'S HOUSE YOU'RE NOT
[1:26:05] GOING TO GET YOUR 53FT.
[1:26:08] SO BUT IT'S A PUBLIC ROAD AND
[1:26:11] IT GETS REPAIRED AND I MEAN
[1:26:14] IT'S THE SAME SITUATION YOU
[1:26:15] KNOW IT'S JUST HAPPENS TO BE
[1:26:17] PUBLIC AND IT GETS REPAIRED.
[1:26:19] A IT IS NOT GOING TO EVER BE
[1:26:21] SIDEWALKS OR UM SO I, I HOPE I
[1:26:28] SEE THIS UH THIS PROPOSAL AS A
[1:26:32] STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
[1:26:33] I SEE WE HAVE UH, DO HAVE A
[1:26:35] WAYS TO GO UH TO REALLY BE ABLE
[1:26:39] TO DO THE CORRECT UH UH,
[1:26:43] IMPROVEMENTS.
[1:26:44] UM, ONE QUESTION I'D HAVE IS IF
[1:26:46] I CAN JUST I THINK IT'S ON THE
[1:26:48] MAYBE MCALARY UM, THERE'S NO
[1:26:53] SIDEWALKS BUT THE THE THE
[1:26:55] ASPHALT WHEN IT GOES TO THE
[1:26:57] EDGES THEY BUILD IN A SMALL UH,
[1:27:00] CURB BASICALLY ON THE ASPHALT.
[1:27:02] SO THAT KEEPS THE WATER FROM
[1:27:04] GOING TO PEOPLE'S YARDS GOES
[1:27:06] DOWN THE HILL AND AT THE BOTTOM
[1:27:09] THERE'S UH THEN IT INTERSECTS A
[1:27:12] CANTERBURY STREET AND THERE'S
[1:27:14] UM.
[1:27:14] YOU KNOW, A UH.
[1:27:18] A DRAINAGE POINT AT THAT POINT.
[1:27:21] SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S UH IN
[1:27:23] BETWEEN UH, SOLUTION FOR THE
[1:27:26] CITY.
[1:27:27] UH, WE COULD HAVE JUST REPAVED
[1:27:29] THESE THINGS AND BUILD THOSE A
[1:27:30] LITTLE CURBS UH, THAT WOULD, UH
[1:27:34] WOULDN'T DEAL WITH THE SIDEWALK
[1:27:36] SITUATION BUT IT WOULD HELP.
[1:27:38] YOU KNOW.
[1:27:39] KEEP THE WATER OUT OF PEOPLE'S
[1:27:41] ,UM.
[1:27:43] YARDS.
[1:27:45] IN OTHER WORDS, IS IT
[1:27:47] POSSIBLE FOR THE CITY TO WRITE
[1:27:49] AN ORDINANCE LIKE THAT?
[1:27:52] AND NOT RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH
[1:27:54] A STATE LAW?
[1:27:55] THAT IS, IF YOU DO A PRETTY
[1:27:58] GOOD JOB OF JUST RESURFACING
[1:27:59] DEALING WITH THE WATER RUNOFF
[1:28:00] BUT YOU DON'T PUT ON SIDEWALKS
[1:28:05] OR IS THAT JUST NOT POSSIBLE?
[1:28:08] ANYWAY, THAT'S MY QUESTION.
[1:28:09] THANK YOU.
[1:28:12] THANK YOU RICK.
[1:28:13] UM WE'LL LOOK INTO THAT WITH
[1:28:14] OUR UM WITH OUR COUNCIL.
[1:28:17] APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR TESTIMONY
[1:28:18] .
[1:28:19] UM NEXT UP WE HAVE SHIRLEY AND
[1:28:22] THEN CHRISTOPHER.
[1:28:40] CAN YOU HEAR ME?
[1:28:43] YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
[1:28:45] OKAY, GREAT.
[1:28:46] UM, THANKS FOR.
[1:28:47] THE OPPORTUNITY.
[1:28:47] I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY I WAS
[1:28:49] INVITED HERE.
[1:28:50] I THINK BECAUSE I CONTACTED
[1:28:52] COUNCILMAN WEBER ABOUT SOME
[1:28:53] ISSUES I WAS HAVING ON MY
[1:28:54] PRIVATE WAY WHICH ARE TOTALLY
[1:28:57] DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'RE
[1:28:58] SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY.
[1:28:59] UM, I WANT TO MENTION THEM ONLY
[1:29:01] IN THE SENSE THAT.
[1:29:04] UM, SITTING HERE LISTENING I
[1:29:06] UNDERSTAND THAT PRIMARIES WERE
[1:29:08] ALL OVER BOSTON AND I'M SURE
[1:29:11] THAT THAT'S BECAUSE WE'RE SUCH
[1:29:12] AN OLD CITY AND WE USED TO HAVE
[1:29:13] COW PATHS AND CARRIAGE ROADS
[1:29:14] AND ALL THAT AND WE'RE
[1:29:16] SUFFERING UNDER THE THOSE
[1:29:18] ISSUES RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO
[1:29:19] MAKE IT, UH, A.
[1:29:22] BETTER PLACE TO LIVE FOR
[1:29:23] EVERYBODY.
[1:29:24] UM, AND ALSO BEING A FORMER
[1:29:26] STATE EMPLOYEE I KNOW ABOUT
[1:29:29] PRIORITIZATION OF SCARCE
[1:29:30] RESOURCES AND HOW DIFFICULT
[1:29:31] THIS JOB IS.
[1:29:33] SO IN SAYING.
[1:29:34] THAT I.
[1:29:34] LIVE ON A PRIVATE WHERE I'VE
[1:29:35] LIVED THERE FOR 33 YEARS AND
[1:29:37] JAMAICA PLAIN.
[1:29:38] I LIVE ON UNION AVE, WHICH IS
[1:29:40] KIND OF A UNIQUE SITUATION
[1:29:41] BECAUSE UNION OF THE MAIN PART
[1:29:44] OF IT IS A PUBLIC WAY AND WE
[1:29:46] HAVE UH IT'S AN L-SHAPED STREET
[1:29:48] THAT GOES FROM WASHINGTON TO
[1:29:49] GREEN AND MY SECTION HAS FOUR
[1:29:52] HOUSES ON IT AND IT'S A PRIVATE
[1:29:55] WAY AND IN THE PRIVATE WAY LAW
[1:29:59] MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT
[1:30:00] ABUTTERS OWN HALF THE STREET
[1:30:02] AND THIS IS UNIQUE BECAUSE MY A
[1:30:04] BUTLER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE IS
[1:30:06] THE CITY.
[1:30:08] NOW POTHOLES ARE THERE.
[1:30:10] THEY DON'T BOTHER US BECAUSE IT
[1:30:12] SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN BECAUSE THEY
[1:30:14] COME AROUND THE CORNER SO
[1:30:16] QUICKLY AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO
[1:30:18] SIDEWALKS THERE LOTS OF PEOPLE
[1:30:20] AND LOTS OF CHILDREN BECAUSE WE
[1:30:22] ABOUT THE FIELD AT ENGLISH HIGH
[1:30:23] THERE ARE LOTS OF KIDS WALKING
[1:30:25] TO AND FROM THE TENNIS COURTS,
[1:30:27] THE PICKLEBALL COURTS, THE
[1:30:29] SOCCER FIELD AND THERE ARE NO
[1:30:32] SIDEWALKS AND PEOPLE COME
[1:30:33] AROUND THE CORNER OR UP THE
[1:30:35] HILL AND IT'S VERY VERY VERY
[1:30:37] DANGEROUS.
[1:30:38] WE'VE POSTED SIGNS NO PARKING
[1:30:41] AND PEOPLE PARK THERE ALL THE
[1:30:42] TIME BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TO
[1:30:43] WATCH THE GAME AND WE'RE IN A
[1:30:47] SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE DON'T
[1:30:51] BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE THE RIGHT
[1:30:53] TO HAVE THEM TOWED.
[1:30:54] THEY FIGHT WITH THE TOW DRIVERS
[1:30:56] .
[1:30:56] IT'S A BAD, BAD SCENE THERE.
[1:30:59] I THINK THE ISSUE THAT I JUST
[1:31:01] WANT TO RAISE IS THAT EVERY
[1:31:03] PRIVATE WEIGHS DIFFERENT.
[1:31:05] EVERY SET OF RESIDENTS THAT
[1:31:07] LIVE ON THOSE PRIVATE WAYS ARE
[1:31:09] DIFFERENT.
[1:31:10] I DON'T THINK WE CAN COME
[1:31:11] ACROSS WITH A ONE YOU KNOW
[1:31:14] SOLUTION FITS ALL AND MAKE
[1:31:15] PEOPLE HAPPY.
[1:31:17] I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS EVEN
[1:31:19] POSSIBLE, BUT DOING SOME
[1:31:20] ASSESSMENT AND PRIORITIZATION
[1:31:22] OF THE WORST.
[1:31:23] SITUATIONS AND THE ONES THAT
[1:31:25] PEOPLE REALLY WANT TO HAVE
[1:31:27] SOLVED WOULD BE GREAT.
[1:31:29] I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S POSSIBLE
[1:31:30] .
[1:31:31] WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE
[1:31:34] OTHER CITY SERVICES THAT GET
[1:31:36] NEGLECTED AND I'VE BEEN TOLD
[1:31:38] MANY TIMES WE CAN'T DO THAT
[1:31:40] BECAUSE IT'S A PRIVATE WAY.
[1:31:41] WELL AGAIN I'M A TAXPAYING
[1:31:44] CITIZEN.
[1:31:45] MY SAFETY MEANING PEOPLE THAT
[1:31:48] ASSAULT ME WHEN I TELL THEM YOU
[1:31:49] CAN'T PARK HERE YOU'RE GOING TO
[1:31:50] GET TOWED.
[1:31:51] AND THEY VERBALLY ABUSED ME AND
[1:31:53] ONE TIME PHYSICALLY ABUSED
[1:31:55] ME FOR TELLING THEM THAT TO
[1:31:57] SAVE THEM THE $250 TOTAL FEE.
[1:32:00] THE POLICE SAY WE CAN'T DO
[1:32:01] ANYTHING.
[1:32:02] THE REASON I'M HERE IS BECAUSE
[1:32:05] SOMEONE DUMPED AN OLD.
[1:32:07] COLEMAN POP UP TENT TRAILER ON
[1:32:09] OUR PRIVATE WAY ILLEGALLY AND
[1:32:12] ALL THE POLICE WERE SAYING WE
[1:32:14] CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE IT'S
[1:32:15] A PRIVATE WAY.
[1:32:15] WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.
[1:32:18] THIS HAS BEEN ILLEGALLY DUMPED.
[1:32:21] WE'RE CITIZENS OF THE CITY.
[1:32:24] THE LAWS STILL APPLY, RIGHT?
[1:32:26] I MEAN, THAT'S THE PART THAT
[1:32:28] I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT TOO IS
[1:32:31] CITIZENS OF PRIVATE WAVES
[1:32:33] DESERVE ALL THE REST OF CITY
[1:32:34] SERVICES PROTECTION BY THE
[1:32:37] POLICE.
[1:32:38] ILLEGAL DUMPING ON THE PRIVATE
[1:32:40] WAY.
[1:32:42] I MEAN, SO THERE'S A MYRIAD
[1:32:46] OF PROBLEMS FOR PRIVATE WAVE
[1:32:47] RESIDENTS AND I UNDERSTAND
[1:32:48] POTHOLES ARE A BIG ONE.
[1:32:50] LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WE'RE NOT
[1:32:51] TOO CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE
[1:32:53] WE'RE ON A HILL.
[1:32:54] WATER DOESN'T SETTLE IN OUR
[1:32:56] YARDS.
[1:32:57] THE POTHOLES ARE OKAY BECAUSE
[1:33:00] THEY'RE NOT THAT DEEP AND IT
[1:33:01] SLOWS PEOPLE DOWN.
[1:33:02] SO POTHOLES ARE NOT MY BIGGEST
[1:33:04] ISSUE.
[1:33:04] BUT IT'S FUNNY THAT IN THE LAST
[1:33:07] THREE MONTHS TWO TEAMS HAVE
[1:33:09] COME AND FILLED THE POTHOLES ON
[1:33:11] MY STREET.
[1:33:12] I NEVER PUT IN A311 NO ONE ON
[1:33:14] MY STREET DID EITHER SO I DON'T
[1:33:15] KNOW MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE
[1:33:17] OF THIS NEW ORDINANCE BUT UM
[1:33:20] THERE'S A MYRIAD OF PROBLEMS
[1:33:22] WITH PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:33:23] I THINK THE CITY WOULD DO WELL
[1:33:25] IN CHECKING WITH THE RESIDENTS
[1:33:27] TO SEE WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THEY
[1:33:31] HAVE, WHAT DO THEY NEED?
[1:33:34] AND AGAIN THIS MAY BE A BIG JOB
[1:33:37] BUT I THINK YOU NEED TO
[1:33:38] PRIORITIZE PEOPLE.
[1:33:39] AND THE OTHER THING IS THAT A
[1:33:41] LOT OF THESE DIRT ROADS I KNOW
[1:33:43] IN MAINE AND IN NOVA SCOTIA
[1:33:45] BECAUSE WE GO THERE A LOT THEY
[1:33:47] HAVE DIRT ROADS THAT ARE HARD
[1:33:49] PACKED AND THEY'RE PRETTY GOOD
[1:33:51] BECAUSE THE FREEZE THAW ISSUE
[1:33:53] DOESN'T BECOME AN ISSUE FOR
[1:33:54] THEM BECAUSE IT JUST DRAINS
[1:33:56] AWAY.
[1:33:56] I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S A
[1:33:58] ANOTHER SOLUTION TO LOOK INTO
[1:34:00] OTHER FORMS OF HARD PACKED
[1:34:04] ROADS THAT WON'T PRODUCE
[1:34:06] POTHOLES LIKE GET PRODUCED WITH
[1:34:09] ASPHALT AND PATCH COLD PATCH.
[1:34:14] UM I JUST THINK LIKE ONE OF THE
[1:34:16] OTHER VIDEO THE WOMAN IN THE
[1:34:18] VIDEO EARLIER SAID UH, WE HAVE
[1:34:20] TO BE CREATIVE AND WE HAVE TO
[1:34:22] LOOK AND LOOK AT THE OUTDATED
[1:34:23] LAWS.
[1:34:24] I WORKED FOR THE COURTS FOR 30
[1:34:25] YEARS.
[1:34:25] I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF LAWS
[1:34:27] ON THE BOOKS THAT JUST ARE NOT
[1:34:28] IN SERVICE OF US TODAY.
[1:34:31] UM WITH TECHNOLOGY AND
[1:34:32] EVERYTHING ELSE ONE OF THE
[1:34:33] PROBLEMS IS WAZE, RIGHT?
[1:34:35] IT'S ALWAYS TELLING PEOPLE HOW
[1:34:36] TO AVOID THE TRAFFIC THAT'S
[1:34:37] BEEN CAUSED BY NEW TRAFFIC
[1:34:39] PATTERNS AND THEY'RE USING ALL
[1:34:40] THESE PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:34:42] ALL THE PUBLIC IS USING THEIR
[1:34:44] EASEMENT TO GET OVER TO CUT OFF
[1:34:46] THE LIGHT ON WASHINGTON STREET
[1:34:48] OR GET THROUGH SOMEWHERE ON
[1:34:49] AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY.
[1:34:51] I MEAN, WE'RE CREATING PROBLEMS
[1:34:54] THAT ARE CREATING MORE PROBLEMS
[1:34:55] FOR US.
[1:34:55] I THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A BIG
[1:34:57] SORT OF A GLOBAL LOOK.
[1:34:59] JUST JUST SOME THOUGHTS ON THE
[1:35:00] MATTER.
[1:35:01] UH, HAPPY TO HELP IN ANY WAY I
[1:35:04] CAN, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE TIME
[1:35:06] AND, UH, THOSE ARE SOME OF THE
[1:35:09] ISSUES I'VE HAD.
[1:35:10] THANKS.
[1:35:10] THANK YOU.
[1:35:11] SHIRLEY.
[1:35:13] UM, NEXT UP.
[1:35:15] IS CHRISTOPHER.
[1:35:25] HI.
[1:35:25] CAN YOU HEAR ME?
[1:35:27] WE CAN HEAR YOU.
[1:35:28] YEP.
[1:35:28] WONDERFUL.
[1:35:29] UM, I'M CHRIS ARENA.
[1:35:30] I'M ACTUALLY CAMERA OFF BECAUSE
[1:35:32] I'M CALLING FROM ACADIA
[1:35:34] NATIONAL PARK RIGHT NOW THAT
[1:35:35] THIS MATTER MATTERS SO MUCH TO
[1:35:36] ME THAT I FIGURED I'D TAKE A
[1:35:38] SECOND FOR MY VACATION AND CALL
[1:35:39] IN AND TALK ABOUT MY
[1:35:40] EXPERIENCE.
[1:35:41] UM, THIS ISSUE DATES BACK TO
[1:35:43] CONVERSATIONS WITH FORMER
[1:35:44] COUNCILOR LAURA COUNCIL CURRENT
[1:35:46] COUNCILOR WEBER.
[1:35:47] UH, MY WIFE AND I ARE BOTH
[1:35:49] HOMEOWNERS.
[1:35:49] IN THE GROVE.
[1:35:50] IN BOSTON.
[1:35:51] WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR SIX YEARS
[1:35:52] NOW.
[1:35:53] WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
[1:35:53] UM, THE HISTORY OF THIS
[1:35:54] NEIGHBORHOOD IS HILARIOUS AND
[1:35:56] INTERESTING AND STRANGE.
[1:35:57] IT USED TO BE A SUMMER
[1:35:58] DESTINATION OF THE WEALTHY BACK
[1:36:00] BAY ELITES WHO WOULD TAKE THEIR
[1:36:01] COTTAGES AND THEIR CARRIAGES
[1:36:03] DOWN TO A COTTAGE, UH.
[1:36:04] AND AND VACATION IN THE CITY
[1:36:07] OF BOSTON AND THEIR OWN CITY UM
[1:36:08] AND THEIR LITTLE, UH, OASIS.
[1:36:10] WE LOVE THE CHARACTER OF THIS
[1:36:12] NEIGHBORHOOD.
[1:36:13] UM, BUT THERE ARE TWO CORE
[1:36:14] ISSUES THAT I THINK EVERYONE
[1:36:16] EXPERIENCES AND HAS DIFFERENT
[1:36:17] REACTIONS TO.
[1:36:18] THE FIRST OF WHICH IS ROADS AND
[1:36:20] I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT IN A
[1:36:21] SECOND AND THE SECOND OF WHICH
[1:36:22] IS STREETS.
[1:36:23] SO THE STREETS IN THE GROVE
[1:36:24] WERE NEVER CONSIDERED THOUGHT
[1:36:26] OUT MAPPED OUT INTENTIONALLY IN
[1:36:29] A WAY THAT WOULD HAVE HELPED
[1:36:31] WITH A LOT OF OUR ISSUES.
[1:36:33] UM, FOR EXAMPLE, I LIVE ON A
[1:36:35] ROAD CALLED DANA ROAD.
[1:36:36] UH, AND THERE'S 3 OR 4
[1:36:37] DIFFERENT PARTS TO DANA ROAD
[1:36:39] WHERE IT JUST CUTS OFF THROUGH
[1:36:40] A RESIDENCE.
[1:36:41] UH, WHAT USED TO BE A COTTAGE
[1:36:43] AND IS NOW UH, A HOUSE.
[1:36:44] UM, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO HAS,
[1:36:47] YOU KNOW, LIFELONG RESIDENTS
[1:36:48] AND GENERATIONAL RESIDENTS AND
[1:36:49] FOLKS LIKE MY WIFE AND I WHO
[1:36:51] CAME FROM ALLSTON AND MANY
[1:36:53] YEARS IN DIFFERENT BOSTON
[1:36:54] NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE ROSLINDALE.
[1:36:55] UM, A STORY THAT I WANTED TO
[1:36:57] SHARE ABOUT MY NEIGHBORHOOD IN
[1:36:58] THE ROAD WHICH IS REALLY
[1:37:00] CHALLENGING IS WE HAD A
[1:37:01] RESIDENT WHO PASSED AWAY NOT
[1:37:02] MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS
[1:37:03] AGO.
[1:37:03] UM, I REMEMBER DISTINCTLY
[1:37:06] CHATTING WITH THE AMBULANCE
[1:37:07] AFTER THE PEOPLE WHO CAME THE
[1:37:08] PUBLIC SAFETY FOLKS AFTER THE
[1:37:10] RESIDENT HAD PASSED.
[1:37:12] UM AND THEY HAD MENTIONED JUST
[1:37:13] HOW DIFFICULT WAS TO NOT ONLY
[1:37:15] FIND THE HOUSE BUT TO GET IN,
[1:37:17] UM, TO BE ABLE TO TRY TO GET
[1:37:19] LIFESAVING CARE.
[1:37:20] UM, THEY HAD TO COME DOWN A
[1:37:22] ROAD CALLED LINDEN WHICH
[1:37:23] CHANGES ITS NAMES TWO DIFFERENT
[1:37:24] TIMES AND HAS THE WORST
[1:37:26] POTHOLES IN BOSTON.
[1:37:27] I PROMISE YOU, UH, YOU WILL NOT
[1:37:29] FIND A DEEPER POTHOLE.
[1:37:30] I THINK COUNCILOR WEBER TALKED
[1:37:32] ABOUT A TANK SIZED POTHOLE.
[1:37:33] THERE ARE THREE OF THEM ON
[1:37:35] LINDEN.
[1:37:35] SO THIS AMBULANCE COULDN'T GET
[1:37:36] DOWN.
[1:37:36] HAD TO DRIVE THE OTHER WAY.
[1:37:38] AND AGAIN AT THIS POINT WE'RE
[1:37:40] TALKING ABOUT DELAYING LIFE
[1:37:41] SERVING CARE.
[1:37:42] UM, UH, THE SIMPLE ISSUES WITH
[1:37:44] THE POSTAL SERVICE I HAVE THOSE
[1:37:46] SAME ISSUES IN THE WINTER WHERE
[1:37:47] THEY CAN'T DRIVE DOWN AND
[1:37:48] DELIVER OUR MAIL.
[1:37:49] UM, BUT ANOTHER REALLY PRESSING
[1:37:51] CURRENT ISSUE IS A TREE ON, UH,
[1:37:53] DANA ROAD RECENTLY DIED.
[1:37:55] A VERY, VERY LARGE TREE.
[1:37:57] UM, AND IN TRYING TO GET THIS
[1:37:59] TREE REMOVED WE SPOKE TO
[1:38:01] EVERSOURCE.
[1:38:01] WE SPOKE TO THE CITY, WE SPOKE
[1:38:03] TO A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT
[1:38:04] PARTNERS AND AS A PRIVATE WAY,
[1:38:06] THE ONLY RESPONSE TO THE
[1:38:08] RESPONSIBILITY COMES FROM THE
[1:38:09] NEIGHBORS OF ACTUALLY SERVICING
[1:38:10] THIS TREE IN THE MIDDLE OF A
[1:38:11] ROAD.
[1:38:12] UM, SO AGAIN, I THINK THE ISSUE
[1:38:15] IS NOT TO HAVE THE GROVE BECOME
[1:38:17] A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THREE
[1:38:20] DIFFERENT SIDEWALKS AND
[1:38:22] INDUSTRIALIZATION I THINK SOME
[1:38:23] OF THE LONG TERM NEIGHBORS
[1:38:23] WOULD BE AGAINST THAT, ALTHOUGH
[1:38:25] I THINK IT'D BE LOVELY TO HAVE
[1:38:27] MORE NEIGHBORS IN MY
[1:38:27] NEIGHBORHOOD.
[1:38:28] UM, BUT THE REALITY IS THE
[1:38:29] GROVE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE
[1:38:30] MOST PRESSING AREAS UH, STREET
[1:38:32] DISREPAIR IN THE ENTIRE CITY.
[1:38:34] NO ONE'S GOING TO USE THIS
[1:38:36] PLACE AS A CUT THROUGH, I
[1:38:37] PROMISE.
[1:38:37] WASHINGTON TO GROVE STREET IS
[1:38:39] NOT A COMMON ROUTE THAT PEOPLE
[1:38:41] TAKE.
[1:38:41] UM, BUT IF WE CAN FIND A
[1:38:43] SOLUTION THAT CAN ENSURE
[1:38:46] RESIDENTS WHO NEED MEDICAL CARE
[1:38:48] IN THE MOMENT GET IT FASTER
[1:38:50] THAT WE CAN ENSURE THAT
[1:38:51] DELIVERY DRIVERS KNOW WHICH
[1:38:53] PART OF DANA ROAD THEY CAN GET
[1:38:54] TO.
[1:38:55] UM, AND ALSO THAT FUTURE
[1:38:56] RESIDENTS KIND OF KNOW WHAT
[1:38:57] THEY'RE GETTING INTO WHEN THEY
[1:38:58] BUY A PROPERTY WITH A SEPTIC
[1:39:00] TANK AND A PRIVATE ROAD.
[1:39:01] I THINK COLLABORATION UM IN A
[1:39:04] MIDDLE GROUND LIKE PERHAPS JUST
[1:39:06] A PAVING OR A HEAVY DIRT PACK
[1:39:08] LIKE I BELIEVE SHIRLEY JUST
[1:39:09] SAID AS OPPOSED.
[1:39:11] TO SIDEWALKS AND A DEEPLY
[1:39:12] DEFINED ROAD.
[1:39:13] UM, I'M HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED.
[1:39:15] LIKE I SAID, I WAS HAVING
[1:39:16] CONVERSATIONS WITH KENDRA,
[1:39:17] LAURA AND A FORMER
[1:39:18] COUNCIL LAURA AND CURRENT
[1:39:20] COUNCIL MEMBER.
[1:39:20] I THINK YOU'LL FIND MANY
[1:39:22] RESIDENTS IN THE GROVE WANT TO
[1:39:23] BE A PART OF THE SOLUTION, NOT
[1:39:24] JUST HAVE IT PERFORMED FOR THEM
[1:39:26] .
[1:39:26] UM THE DIFFICULTY IS THE
[1:39:28] PROCESS AND THEN I'LL CLOSE
[1:39:29] WITH THIS.
[1:39:30] THE PICK PROCESS IS REALLY
[1:39:32] CHALLENGING.
[1:39:32] I DON'T KNOW HALF OF MY
[1:39:33] NEIGHBORS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T
[1:39:35] WANT TO BUT BECAUSE WE LIVE IN
[1:39:37] DIFFERENT AREAS.
[1:39:38] SOME WORK VERY DIFFERENT JOBS
[1:39:39] AND SCHEDULES AND.
[1:39:41] THE GROVE IS.
[1:39:42] A REALLY BIG NEIGHBORHOOD TO
[1:39:43] GET 50% OF PEOPLE EVEN TO A
[1:39:45] MEETING LET ALONE TO AGREE ON
[1:39:47] SOMETHING IS GOING TO BE REALLY
[1:39:48] CHALLENGING.
[1:39:49] SO INSTEAD IF WE COULD FOCUS ON
[1:39:51] SOLUTIONS THAT CAN ACTIVATE
[1:39:52] CERTAIN NEIGHBORS UM, THAT CAN
[1:39:54] ALSO BRING THE ROAD UP TO A
[1:39:57] STANDARD IF NOT A CODE THAT
[1:39:58] WOULD BE FANTASTIC AND I'M SO
[1:39:59] GRATEFUL AT THE CHANCE TO
[1:40:00] SPEAK.
[1:40:01] UM AND WE'RE HAPPY BE HAPPY TO
[1:40:02] STAY INVOLVED.
[1:40:03] THANK YOU.
[1:40:04] THANK YOU CHRIS.
[1:40:07] UH, THAT'S IT FOR PUBLIC
[1:40:09] TESTIMONY.
[1:40:09] I'LL NOW GO TO THE LEAD SPONSOR
[1:40:12] FOR ANY CLOSING REMARKS AND
[1:40:13] THEN WE'LL, UH, CLOSE IT OUT.
[1:40:15] UH THANK YOU CHAIR.
[1:40:15] THANK YOU TO.
[1:40:17] ALL THE RESIDENTS WHO PROVIDED
[1:40:19] ,UM, REMARKS.
[1:40:21] UM, A LOT OF CREATIVE IDEAS.
[1:40:25] AND WE'LL DEFINITELY.
[1:40:28] INCORPORATE THEM.
[1:40:29] MAY BE REACHING.
[1:40:29] OUT TO SEE HOW WE CAN WORK ON,
[1:40:33] UM, COMING UP.
[1:40:34] WITH WAYS ON HOW TO.
[1:40:38] GET CREATIVE ON BRINGING
[1:40:40] RELEASE.
[1:40:40] RELIEF TO.
[1:40:42] UH, THE.
[1:40:43] RESIDENTS THAT.
[1:40:43] ARE LIVING ON PRIVATE WAYS.
[1:40:45] UM.
[1:40:46] I GUESS WHAT OF MY.
[1:40:47] QUESTIONS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO
[1:40:49] FIND OUT.
[1:40:50] SUPERINTENDENT NE IS.
[1:40:53] IF YOU WERE TO.
[1:40:54] FILL ALL THE POTHOLES ON
[1:40:57] PRIVATE.
[1:40:57] WAYS TO THE 311 TO THE 311 THAT
[1:41:03] YOU RECEIVE IT.
[1:41:05] UM AND SO YOU HAVE THIS NUMBER
[1:41:06] NOW BUT IF YOU COULD FIND OUT
[1:41:09] WHAT WOULD THAT.
[1:41:10] COST YOU?
[1:41:11] BECAUSE THOSE ARE ACTUAL
[1:41:13] COMPLAINTS.
[1:41:13] THAT HAVE BEEN CLOSED OUT.
[1:41:15] IF WE CAN GET A DOLLAR AMOUNT.
[1:41:17] ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
[1:41:19] UM.
[1:41:20] I THINK IT COULD BE USEFUL TO
[1:41:24] ME TO.
[1:41:24] UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COSTS.
[1:41:27] WOULD BE.
[1:41:28] UM.
[1:41:30] FOR JUST FILLING THE
[1:41:31] POTHOLES.
[1:41:32] UM.
[1:41:34] SO SPEAKING OF OF HOLES THAT
[1:41:37] HAVE ALREADY BEEN FILLED OR
[1:41:38] ONES THAT WE FILL.
[1:41:39] THE ONE THAT YOU HAVEN'T
[1:41:40] FILLED.
[1:41:42] ONES THAT WE HAVEN'T FILLED.
[1:41:43] OKAY.
[1:41:43] GOTCHA.
[1:41:44] 311 REQUEST THAT HAVE BEEN
[1:41:46] CLOSED OUT SAYING.
[1:41:47] HEY THESE ARE PRIVATE.
[1:41:49] WAYS WHEN I CAN FILL IT OUT.
[1:41:50] IT GOES THROUGH THIS ASSET.
[1:41:51] ASSESSMENT PROCESS, UM,
[1:41:52] WHETHER.
[1:41:53] IT REACHES THIS PUBLIC SAFETY
[1:41:55] THRESHOLD.
[1:41:56] RIGHT.
[1:41:58] SO YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE
[1:41:59] TO.
[1:42:00] FILL THOSE.
[1:42:01] UM YEAH.
[1:42:02] WE DON'T WE CAN TRY.
[1:42:04] THE ONLY ISSUE WOULD BE YOU.
[1:42:07] KNOW.
[1:42:07] AGAIN THE PUBLIC DOESN'T
[1:42:10] DIFFERENTIATE.
[1:42:11] THEY SEE SOMETHING WRONG WITH
[1:42:12] THE ROADWAY.
[1:42:12] IT'S A POTHOLE INTERNALLY.
[1:42:14] YOU KNOW WE SEE WE DEAL WITH
[1:42:16] THEM KIND OF AS ROADWAY
[1:42:17] DEFECTS.
[1:42:17] SO.
[1:42:18] UM, I CAN PROVIDE, YOU KNOW.
[1:42:25] LET ME SEE WHAT WE CAN COME UP
[1:42:26] WITH.
[1:42:27] UM.
[1:42:28] I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT
[1:42:29] ACCURACY, BUT LET ME SEE WHAT
[1:42:30] WE CAN COME UP WITH.
[1:42:32] OKAY.
[1:42:33] UM, AND YOU KNOW, WE HEARD
[1:42:36] FROM A LOT OF RESIDENTS.
[1:42:38] YOU KNOW, THE TAX PAYERS, UH
[1:42:40] ,THEIR.
[1:42:41] THEIR TAXES GO INTO.
[1:42:43] A.
[1:42:43] GENERAL FUND WHICH THEN GOES IN
[1:42:45] FIX.
[1:42:45] FIXES, UM, POTHOLES.
[1:42:47] OR PROVIDE CITY SERVICES.
[1:42:49] UM.
[1:42:50] TO TO OTHER STREETS.
[1:42:52] AND AGAIN LIKE THIS IS.
[1:42:54] JUST TRYING.
[1:42:54] TO FIND.
[1:42:55] A STEP FORWARD ON TRYING TO.
[1:42:57] YOU KNOW.
[1:42:58] GET THESE RESIDENTS THAT
[1:42:59] LIVE ON.
[1:42:59] PRIVATE WAVE AND.
[1:43:00] I'M NOT.
[1:43:01] AWARE OF ANY YOU KNOW
[1:43:04] DIFFERENT TAXING TAXES.
[1:43:08] I DON'T.
[1:43:09] THINK THEY'RE GETTING ANY
[1:43:10] THEY'RE NOT PAYING LESS IN
[1:43:11] TAXES TO LIVE ON A PRIVATE WAY
[1:43:14] TO TO TRY TO GET YOU KNOW,
[1:43:15] THESE RESIDENTS.
[1:43:17] UM.
[1:43:17] YOU KNOW, SOME SOME RELIEF
[1:43:20] AND ONE WAY IS.
[1:43:21] YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO UPDATE
[1:43:22] THE LAW TO KIND OF GET UM, YOU
[1:43:25] KNOW WHAT.
[1:43:26] WHAT.
[1:43:26] WOULD WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING
[1:43:27] AND GOING THROUGH NOW.
[1:43:28] SO JUST WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
[1:43:30] WHO WAS PART OF THE
[1:43:32] CONVERSATION.
[1:43:33] SHOUT OUT TO UH, MATT FROM MY
[1:43:34] TEAM WHO BEEN WORKING ON THIS
[1:43:37] AND HE FOUND THIS CITY
[1:43:39] ORDINANCE THAT.
[1:43:41] WE ALL SHOULD HAVE BEEN UP TO
[1:43:42] COULD BE UPDATED.
[1:43:44] UM, TO PROVIDE.
[1:43:45] UH, THE CITY WITH.
[1:43:47] MORE UH, FLEXIBILITY.
[1:43:49] I'M USING AIR FORCE BUT I KNOW
[1:43:50] IS CURRENTLY BEING DONE.
[1:43:53] UM, BUT JUST PROVIDING THAT,
[1:43:54] YOU KNOW, LEGAL UH.
[1:43:56] PARAMETER AROUND IT.
[1:43:58] UM, AND THEN JUST TRYING TO.
[1:43:59] FIND WAYS.
[1:44:00] ON TO MAKE IT.
[1:44:01] YOU KNOW, UM, I.
[1:44:02] GUESS BETTER.
[1:44:04] IMPLEMENTED INSTEAD OF.
[1:44:05] CREATING A THRESHOLD.
[1:44:06] JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE
[1:44:08] FILLING THESE.
[1:44:09] UM, UH, FILLING THE POTHOLES ON
[1:44:10] THESE PRIVATE WAY BUT HAPPY TO
[1:44:12] TO THE CONVERSATION.
[1:44:14] LOOKING FORWARD TO A WORK IN
[1:44:15] SESSION AND LOOKING FORWARD TO
[1:44:16] WORKING WITH ALL THE
[1:44:17] CONSTITUENTS.
[1:44:18] ON FINDING.
[1:44:19] CREATIVE WAYS ON HOW TO SOLVE
[1:44:21] THIS.
[1:44:21] THANK YOU.
[1:44:23] THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORL AND
[1:44:24] THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS
[1:44:25] FORWARD AND TO YOUR TEAM AND
[1:44:26] UM, EVERYBODY THAT'S PROVIDED
[1:44:28] UH, TESTIMONY AND UM
[1:44:30] SUPERINTENDENT, THANK YOU FOR
[1:44:31] YOUR WORK REALLY AND TRULY UM
[1:44:32] AND TO YOUR TEAM.
[1:44:33] UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR
[1:44:34] PERSPECTIVE.
[1:44:35] UH, THIS HEARING ON DOCKET 0807
[1:44:38] IS ADJOURNED.
[1:44:39] THANKS, EVERYONE.