Ways and Means on September 28, 2026

11:39 WEBER I'M THE DISTRICT SIX CITY

11:41 COUNCILOR AND THE CHAIR OF THE

11:42 BOSTON CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS AND

11:44 MEANS.

11:45 TODAY'S UH SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2026

11:48 AND THE EXACT TIME IS 10:04

11:50 A.M..

11:51 UH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER

11:53 TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025

11:55 MODIFYING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS

11:57 OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND UH,

12:00 RELIVING OR RELIEVING UH,

12:02 SORRY PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN

12:04 REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE

12:05 REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES

12:07 CONDUCT UH, MEETINGS IN A

12:09 PUBLIC PLACE THAT'S OPEN AND

12:11 PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE

12:12 PUBLIC.

12:13 THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE

12:14 CONDUCTING THIS HEARING

12:15 VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.

12:16 THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED

12:18 .

12:18 IT'S ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED

12:20 AT BOSTON.GOV/CITY COUNCIL TV

12:23 AND BROADCAST ON XFINITY

12:24 CHANNEL EIGHT, RCN CHANNEL 82,

12:27 IN FAVOR OF CHANNEL 964.

12:29 UH WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT

12:31 TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT UH

12:34 CCW UM@BOSTON.GOV IT WILL BE

12:37 MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND

12:38 AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS.

12:40 PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

12:42 AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.

12:43 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

12:45 IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY'VE

12:46 SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE TWO

12:47 MINUTES TO TESTIFY IF YOU WISH

12:49 TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY

12:50 YOU'VE NOT DONE SO ALREADY,

12:52 PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF

12:54 LIAISON KARISHMA ON.

12:55 YEAH.

12:57 KKR.

13:02 MQ HAND@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE ZOOM

13:03 LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE

13:04 ADDED TO THE LIST.

13:06 UH OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS

13:09 ON PSYCH UH 1234 DOCKETS.

13:13 UH I'M GOING TO READ THEM OUT

13:15 UM UH SO DOCKET NUMBER 1671 IS

13:19 A MESSAGE IN ORDER TO REDUCE

13:21 THE F Y 27 APPROPRIATION YOU'RE

13:24 JUST GOING TO ON SECOND AND FY

13:27 27 APPROPRIATION FOR THE

13:30 RESERVE, UH, FOR COLLECTIVE

13:32 BARGAINING BY $1,951,894 TO

13:37 PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON

13:39 POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE UH

13:41 FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES

13:44 CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

13:45 BARGAINING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN

13:46 THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE

13:48 BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES

13:50 BENEVOLENT SOCIETY DOCKET

13:52 NUMBER 1672 MESSAGE IN ORDER

13:55 FOR THE BOSTON POLICE

13:56 DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,

13:58 IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,951,894 TO

14:04 COVER THE FISCAL YEAR 27 COST

14:06 ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THE

14:08 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

14:10 BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND

14:12 THE BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES

14:14 BENEVOLENT SOCIETY.

14:15 THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

14:18 IT SAYS HERE JULY 1ST 2025 TO

14:23 JUNE 30TH 2026.

14:25 UH MAYBE UH WE HAVE TO CHANGE

14:27 THAT AMEND THAT.

14:28 THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

14:30 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

14:33 INCREASE OF 2% IN JULY 2025

14:36 AGAIN, UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT

14:38 THE YEAR.

14:38 THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS AN

14:40 UPDATE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY

14:42 AND AMENDED LANGUAGE AROUND

14:43 SICK TIME BUYBACK AT RETIREMENT

14:46 AS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO YOU

14:48 THE FISCAL YEAR 27 UH BUDGET

14:51 REQUEST INCLUDED A RESERVE FOR

14:53 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, A

14:55 SEPARATE APPROPRIATION TO FUND

14:57 PROJECTED COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

14:59 INCREASES.

14:59 A SEPARATE ORDER HAS BEEN FILED

15:01 TO REDUCE THE APPROPRIATION BY

15:07 $1,951,894.

15:07 OKAY, I THINK I GET DOCKET

15:09 NUMBER 1673 MESSAGE IN ORDER TO

15:12 REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR 27

15:14 APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE

15:15 FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY

15:20 $1,366,093 TO PROVIDE FUNDING

15:23 FOR THE BOSTON POLICE

15:24 DEPARTMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR

15:26 27 INCREASES CONTAINED WITHIN

15:28 THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

15:29 AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY

15:30 OF BOSTON AND THE BOSTON POLICE

15:32 UH DETECTIVE BENEVOLENT SOCIETY

15:34 SUPERIOR OFFICERS UNIT AND UH

15:37 FINALLY, UH DOCKET NUMBER 1674

15:39 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE BOSTON

15:41 POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL

15:42 YEAR 27, IN THE AMOUNT

15:48 OF $1,366,093 TO COVER THE

15:49 FISCAL YEAR 27 COST ITEMS

15:51 CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

15:53 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

15:54 THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE

15:55 BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES

15:56 BENEVOLENT SOCIETY SUPERIOR

15:58 OFFICERS UNIT.

15:59 THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

16:01 JULY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH JUNE

16:03 30TH OF 2026.

16:05 THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

16:06 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

16:08 INCREASE OF 2% IN JULY 2025.

16:12 THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS AN

16:14 UPDATE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY

16:16 AND AMENDED LANGUAGE AROUND PAY

16:18 DETAILS AND SUMMER VACATION

16:20 SCHEDULES AS ORIGINALLY

16:22 PRESENTED TO YOU, THE FISCAL

16:23 YEAR 27 BUDGET REQUEST INCLUDED

16:26 A RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE

16:28 BARGAINING UH, A SEPARATE

16:30 APPROPRIATION TO FUND PROJECTED

16:31 BARGAINING COLLECTIVE

16:32 BARGAINING INCREASES A SEPARATE

16:34 ORDER HAS BEEN FILED TO REDUCE

16:35 THAT APPROPRIATION BY

16:40 $1,396,093.

16:41 THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY

16:43 MICHELLE WU AND WERE REFERRED

16:44 TO THE COMMITTEE.

16:45 ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026.

16:48 UH, FOR MY COLLEAGUES YOU MAY

16:50 RECALL WE PASSED SIMILAR

16:51 DOCKETS IN MAY OF THIS YEAR UH

16:54 FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.

16:57 THESE DOCKETS I BELIEVE WOULD

16:58 JUST EXTEND THOSE UH

17:01 APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR

17:03 2027.

17:04 BUT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM

17:05 JIM WILLIAMSON.

17:06 UH, TODAY I'M UH JOINED BY MY

17:09 COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL

17:11 COUNCILOR FLYNN AND THEN

17:12 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

17:14 UH, I UH I'M JUST GOING TO GO

17:16 TO THE UH, PANELISTS AND THEN

17:18 WE'LL GO FOR QUESTIONS.

17:20 UH, WE'VE BEEN JOINED TODAY BY

17:22 UH, BUDGET DIRECTOR UH, JIM

17:24 WILLIAMSON.

17:25 UM, SO UH, WITH THAT I UH I

17:29 GUESS UM, IF SHE HAD JIM IS

17:33 HERE WHICH I SEE UH, DO YOU

17:35 WANT TO JUST EXPLAIN WHAT'S

17:36 GOING ON AND THEN, UH, UM, YOU

17:39 KNOW, IF MY MY COLLEAGUES HAVE

17:41 ANY QUESTIONS I SEE

17:42 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

17:42 YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP?

17:43 YEAH.

17:44 ONE QUICK QUESTION,

17:45 MR CHAIR.

17:45 WITH THE, UM.

17:47 REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

17:48 RESPECTIVE.

17:48 RESPECTIVE UNIONS, UM.

17:51 LEADERSHIP PLANNING TO ATTEND.

17:53 THEY ARE NOT BECAUSE WE WE THIS

17:57 IS I BELIEVE AND MR WILLIAMSON,

17:59 THE BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON

18:00 IS GOING TO EXPLAIN WE HAD A

18:02 HEARING IN MAY ON THE CONTRACT

18:04 ON A NEW CONTRACT AND I I'M I'M

18:07 HAPPY TO GO OVER UH THE

18:10 PROVISIONS THE NEW PROVISIONS

18:11 IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE

18:12 COVERED IN MAY AND THAT WE

18:13 VOTED ON IN MAY.

18:14 UH, SO THIS IS REALLY I BELIEVE

18:17 WE'RE JUST GOING INTO THE NEXT

18:19 FISCAL YEAR TO COVER THE WAGE

18:20 INCREASES THAT WERE COVERED BY

18:21 THAT CONTRACT.

18:23 SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ONLY

18:24 EXPECTING BUDGET DIRECTOR

18:25 WILLIAMSON TODAY.

18:26 I GUESS IF THERE'S OTHER

18:27 QUESTIONS I CAN RELAY THEM.

18:29 UH, YOU CAN REVIEW THEM THROUGH

18:31 THE CHAIR AND UH, WE CAN GET

18:33 OTHER THINGS ANSWERED.

18:34 BUT I THINK JUST TO EXPLAIN

18:36 WHAT IS HAPPENING, WE HAD, UH,

18:38 JIM WILLIAMSON HERE AND UH, FOR

18:41 QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT

18:42 ITSELF.

18:43 I THINK WE COVERED ALL THAT

18:44 BACK IN MAY.

18:45 YEAH.

18:46 I REMEMBER BEING ON THAT.

18:47 YEAH, RIGHT.

18:48 I DON'T I DON'T MISS ANY

18:49 OF THESE HEARINGS BUT I, UM I

18:52 WANT TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE

18:53 BEFORE I DO VOTE.

18:55 OKAY.

18:56 YEAH.

18:56 THANK YOU.

18:56 YEAH.

18:57 NO, IT'S A IT'S A BIT UNUSUAL.

18:59 UH, AND SO I'VE GONE OVER THE

19:00 COMMITTEE REPORT, UM, LET'S SEE

19:03 WHICH I'VE GOT RIGHT HERE JUST

19:05 TO REFRESH FOLKS MEMORIES, YOU

19:07 KNOW, AS A NEW CONTRACT, UH,

19:09 REACHED UH TO SORT OF EXTEND

19:11 CERTAIN BENEFITS THAT WERE IN

19:13 THE PATROL OFFICERS CONTRACT TO

19:14 THE TO THE DETECTIVES

19:16 BENEVOLENT SOCIETY AND THE

19:18 DETECTIVES BENEVOLENT SOCIETY

19:20 SUPERIOR OFFICERS AND THEN I'LL

19:21 JUST RUN THROUGH THE BULLET

19:22 POINTS.

19:23 WELL.

19:23 LET ME JUST ASK.

19:24 WHERE THEY WERE.

19:26 THEY INVITED.

19:28 UH THEY WERE NOT INVITE WE HAD

19:30 A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THIS

19:31 HEARING SHOULD BE AND BECAUSE

19:34 WE HAD HAD SO NO I DID NOT

19:36 INVITE THEM.

19:37 I DO THINK I DO THINK AN

19:40 INVITATION.

19:41 SHOULD BE.

19:41 EXTENDED WHETHER UM.

19:44 AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE

19:45 OPPORTUNITY TO.

19:48 UM BE INVITED TO BE.

19:49 INCLUDED BECAUSE.

19:50 THERE MIGHT.

19:50 BE SOME ISSUES.

19:51 THAT THEY HIGHLIGHT THAT MIGHT

19:54 HELP US DO OUR JOB BETTER.

19:56 CERTAINLY THE CITY OF BOSTON IS

19:58 GOING TO PRESENT THEIR

20:02 RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT.

20:02 I DO LIKE TO GET BOTH SIDES

20:04 OF THE STORY.

20:05 UM, I REALLY.

20:07 WISH THE.

20:09 UNION LEADERSHIP WERE INVITED

20:10 AND IF THEY DECLINED THEN THEY

20:12 DECLINED.

20:12 BUT I I DO.

20:13 THINK WE WE WE.

20:15 OWE IT TO THEM TO.

20:17 PAY BECAUSE OF THEIR

20:19 PROFESSIONALISM AND THE WORK

20:19 THEY DO.

20:20 TO AT.

20:21 LEAST INVITE THEM TO THE

20:22 MEETING.

20:22 OKAY.

20:23 SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

20:24 LET'S JUST WELL WE'LL LET'S

20:26 PROCEED UH, WITH BUDGET

20:27 DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON.

20:29 YEAH BUT BETTER BETTER IN

20:30 ADDITION TO THAT THAT'S AN A

20:32 THAT'S AN.

20:32 IMPORTANT THAT'S AN.

20:33 IMPORTANT MATTER AND WHAT

20:34 YOU'RE JUST GLOSSING OVER IT I.

20:36 DO I DO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE

20:37 THAT WE.

20:38 CAN AT LEAST.

20:39 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE.

20:41 UNIONS SHOULD BE.

20:42 PART OF THE DISCUSSION.

20:43 THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IN.

20:44 YEAH I HEAR YOU BUT LET'S JUST

20:45 LET'S LET'S HEAR IT,

20:47 MR DIRECTOR AND.

20:48 QUICK QUESTION JUST I AND

20:50 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING

20:51 FROM JIM BUT IS IT BOTH I'M

20:54 READING THE INVITATION HERE.

20:56 IS IT BOTH THE BENEVOLENT

20:58 DETECTIVES AND THE SUPERIOR

21:00 OFFICES OR JUST THE BENEVOLENT

21:02 DETECTIVES?

21:03 IT'S THE UH THIS I'M SORRY.

21:06 LET ME JUST UM.

21:09 THEN IT SAYS HERE WE HAVE THAT

21:11 IT'S ALSO AND SO.

21:13 WAS THE BENEVOLENT DETECTIVES

21:14 AND THEN THE BENEVOLENT

21:16 DETECTIVE SUPERIOR OFFICER.

21:18 SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE OFFICERS

21:19 .

21:19 IT'S BOTH.

21:20 YES.

21:20 RIGHT.

21:21 SO BECAUSE THERE'S THREE POLICE

21:22 UNION SO THIS COVERS BOTH NOT

21:26 BPP BUT THE OTHER TWO.

21:28 CORRECT OKAY JUST CHECK.

21:30 DIDN'T WORK.

21:31 OKAY.

21:32 UM SO AGAIN UH WE CAN LET'S

21:37 CIRCLE BACK TO

21:39 COUNCILOR FLYNN'S, UH, CONCERNS

21:41 UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE

21:43 HEARING.

21:44 UH, BUT SO I'M GOING TO PASS

21:46 THIS ON.

21:46 I SEE YOUR HAND IS UP AGAIN.

21:49 COUNCILOR MURPHY YOU JUST SAW,

21:50 RIGHT?

21:50 NO, JUST TAKING IT DOWN.

21:52 NO.

21:53 OKAY, OKAY.

21:53 I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD HAVE

21:54 GONE BACK.

21:55 UH, OKAY.

21:56 UH, DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON, DO YOU

21:58 WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON

22:00 HERE?

22:00 VERY SURE.

22:01 SO THANK YOU.

22:02 CHAIR WEBER AND COUNCILORS, UH,

22:04 MURPHY AND FLYNN.

22:05 UH, MY NAME IS JIM WILLIAMSON.

22:08 I'M A BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT

22:09 THE CITY OF BOSTON.

22:09 AND I APPRECIATE THIS

22:11 OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE

22:12 MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE,

22:14 UH, SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETS AND

22:15 THEIR IMPACT ON ON THE CITY'S

22:17 BUDGET.

22:17 UH, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE

22:19 FOUR APPROPRIATION WHEREAS

22:20 BEFORE YOU, UH, THE IMPACT

22:22 OF THE 427 ANNUAL OPERATING

22:24 BUDGET AND TO FORMALLY REQUEST

22:26 ,UH, FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION

22:28 OR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT

22:29 COUNCIL MEETING, UH, AS OUR

22:32 COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, IF THERE'S

22:33 ADDITIONAL SORT OF, UH, UNION

22:36 CONTRACT LANGUAGE SPECIFIC

22:38 QUESTIONS AND OR UH

22:40 DEPARTMENTAL OPERATION

22:41 QUESTIONS WERE HAPPY TO TO UH

22:43 REACH OUT AND GET THOSE

22:44 RESPONDED TO UM SO UH THIS UH I

22:49 THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION

22:50 ABOUT THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.

22:50 THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY THIS

22:52 CONTRACT IS AN EXPIRED VERSION

22:53 OF A CONTRACT AND IT'S A SIMPLE

22:56 TRANSACTION.

22:56 UH, SO IN UH IN MAY, UH, SOME

23:00 COUNCIL PASSED AND APPROVED A

23:02 SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET FOR THAT

23:03 ONE YEAR CONTRACT THAT EXPIRED,

23:05 UH, LAST JUNE, UM, IN ORDER TO

23:08 KEEP IT UH, CONSISTENT WITH UH

23:10 ,UH, PATROL OFFICERS, UH,

23:12 CONTRACT UM AND THEN UH, SO, UH

23:16 ,THIS THIS TRANSACTION IS

23:18 REALLY JUST TO MOVE UH, THE

23:20 BUDGETARY DOLLARS FROM THE 27

23:21 RESERVE INTO UH, THE 27 BUDGET

23:24 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

23:25 UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE UH, IT UH

23:29 ,HAPPENED POST UH THE

23:31 RECOMMENDED BUDGET UH, IN APRIL

23:32 AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE

23:34 TRANSACTING IT AT THIS POINT.

23:36 UH, BUT THE THE CONTRACT IS IS

23:39 UH UM BEEN IMPLEMENTED UH, THE

23:42 UM THE DETECTIVES HAVE ALREADY

23:43 RECEIVED THEIR WAGES, YOU KNOW

23:45 ,WAGE CHANGES.

23:46 UH, AND ACTUALLY THE TERM

23:48 OF THE CONTRACT IS EXPIRED, SO.

23:52 OKAY.

23:53 AND THAT EXPLAINS IT JUST

23:54 BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILOR FLYNN,

23:56 THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT'S THE

23:57 SAME.

23:57 IS IT THE SAME NUMBER.

23:59 AS IT'S IDENTICAL?

24:01 IDENTICAL AMOUNTS?

24:02 UM, AS THE ONES THAT WERE

24:04 APPROVED IN MAY.

24:05 OKAY.

24:06 AND I I'M BLANKING ON THE

24:08 LEGAL DOCTRINE BUT I BELIEVE

24:09 WHEN YOU HAVE A COLLECTIVE

24:10 BARGAINING AGREEMENT.

24:11 AND.

24:11 IT.

24:12 EXPIRES YOU YOU DON'T LIKE JUST

24:14 NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT YOU

24:16 MAINTAIN THE EXISTING AGREEMENT

24:18 GOING FORWARD RATHER THAN

24:20 HAVING EVERYONE JUST, YOU KNOW

24:22 ,BE UP IN THE AIR.

24:23 SO UH, THAT'S THAT IS THAT

24:25 THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

24:26 THE CONTRACTS EXPIRED.

24:27 EXPIRED BUT THEY STILL HAVE

24:28 THOSE WAGE PROVISIONS THAT WERE

24:30 APPROVED AND THE BUDGET NEEDS

24:31 TO BE ADJUSTED TO ACCOMMODATE

24:33 FOR THAT INCREASED COSTS.

24:35 OKAY.

24:36 UM OKAY.

24:37 UH I'M JUST I'M GOING TO GO TO

24:39 MY COLLEAGUES AND THEN IF I

24:40 HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END UH, I

24:43 GUESS COUNCILOR FLYNN UH, I HAD

24:47 IT.

24:48 DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR

24:49 BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON?

24:50 I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR CONCERN

24:52 AND WE WILL WE'LL TALK ABOUT

24:53 THAT ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE

24:56 CLOSE THE HEARING.

24:57 BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS

24:59 FOR.

24:59 OKAY, DIRECTOR?

25:01 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

25:03 THANK YOU.

25:03 JIM.

25:04 JIM, WHAT IS THE, UM.

25:07 ANY ANY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AS IT

25:09 RELATES TO.

25:13 THE THE ONGOING UM.

25:17 DEBATE OR CHALLENGE AS IT

25:19 RELATES TO.

25:19 THE THE NUMBER OF POLICE

25:23 OFFICERS WE HAVE IN THE CITY

25:25 AND THE FREQUENCY OF 16 HOUR

25:28 WORK WORKDAYS, UM, AND

25:31 OVERSTAFFED OFFICES UM

25:35 DANGEROUSLY UM UNDERSTAFFED.

25:38 OVERWORKED UM LIMITED NUMBER

25:40 OF POLICE OFFICERS.

25:42 DOES THE LANGUAGE ADDRESS ANY

25:44 OF THAT?

25:46 UH UH I UH I WOULD DEFER TO UH,

25:48 LABOR RELATIONS BUT I DO NOT

25:50 BELIEVE THE CONTRACT SPEAKS TO

25:51 THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF OFFICERS

25:54 .

25:58 IT JUST ACKNOWLEDGES I THINK IN

26:00 A SUMMARY IT ACKNOWLEDGES HOW

26:01 MANY UM, OFFICERS WERE UH, WERE

26:05 IN THAT ROLE.

26:07 SO I THINK UH, FOR THE UM.

26:12 THE UH, DETECTIVES AS 278

26:15 MEMBERS UH, AND FOR THE

26:18 SUPERIOR DETECTIVES IT'S 127

26:21 MEMBERS.

26:23 SO I, I HEARD FROM.

26:25 DETECTIVES ON THE ON THE

26:26 STREET.

26:26 YEAH.

26:27 AND THEY ARE TELLING ME THEY

26:29 HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

26:32 DETECTIVES.

26:33 TO DO.

26:33 THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK AND

26:36 THEY'RE SHORT STAFFED.

26:38 HOW WILL WE ADDRESS THE MAXIMUM

26:41 GANG?

26:41 YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I DO

26:43 REMEMBER SORT OF UM, UH, POLICE

26:46 REPRESENTATIVES TALKING ABOUT

26:47 THAT DYNAMIC BECAUSE WHAT WHAT

26:49 WHEN YOU DON'T COME FROM THE

26:51 OUTSIDE AND BECOME A DETECTIVE,

26:53 IT'S A PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY

26:54 WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.

26:55 UH, SO I THINK THEY TRY TO, UM

26:59 ,WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH

27:01 EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT

27:02 THEY'RE NOT DRAWING TOO MANY

27:04 FROM THE REGULAR PATROL STAFF

27:07 OR OR SUPERIOR OFFICER STAFF,

27:09 UH, THAT ARE INVOLVED AND YOU

27:11 KNOW, UH, THE DISTRICT PATROL

27:12 FORCE UH, YOU KNOW, IN UH SO I

27:17 THINK THIS UH IS AN ONGOING

27:18 CONVERSATION AND YOU KNOW,

27:20 WORKING RELATIONSHIP ON THAT

27:21 PART.

27:22 YEAH.

27:23 BUT I PREFER I PREFER THE

27:24 POLICE ACTUALLY ABOUT THE.

27:26 WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHY THAT'S

27:28 WHY THAT'S WHY I AND THAT'S WHY

27:30 I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO

27:31 HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE

27:33 POLICE HERE.

27:35 UM, SO SO SO WE SO THEY CAN

27:37 ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.

27:39 UM.

27:41 JIM, HOW.

27:42 MANY POLICE OFFICERS DO WE

27:43 HAVE IN THE CITY?

27:44 YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S OVER,

27:47 UH, 2000 BUT I'D HAVE TO GET

27:49 YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

27:50 UH, WE DO GET REPORTS FROM THE

27:52 POLICE DEPARTMENT.

27:53 UH, I LOOKED AT IT RECENTLY.

27:55 BUT WHAT'S.

27:56 WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MOST UP?

27:57 WHAT'S THE MOST UPDATED NUMBER

27:58 ?

27:59 UH, I'D HAVE TO GET THROUGH

28:01 THAT.

28:01 YOU ALSO HAVE.

28:03 UM.

28:04 I THINK WE USE WE WE, UM,

28:07 IDENTIFY MOST SWORN.

28:08 SO IT INCLUDES THE FOUR POLICE

28:10 UNIONS.

28:11 YEAH.

28:11 RIGHT.

28:11 YEAH, YEAH.

28:12 SWORN OFFICERS WHICH WOULD BE.

28:15 UM THE THE THE.

28:16 THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

28:18 THAT ARE BASICALLY ON THE

28:21 STREET AND THE COMMAND STAFF I

28:23 GUESS.

28:23 BUT UM, CAN.

28:25 CAN WE GET THAT NUMBER BEFORE

28:27 WE VOTE ON THIS?

28:28 SURE, ABSOLUTELY.

28:30 UM.

28:34 WHAT ARE WE DOING JIM.

28:36 ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS

28:38 OF POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR

28:40 FAMILIES KNOWING KNOWING THAT

28:42 POLICE OFFICERS UH,

28:44 CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16 HOURS A

28:46 DAY HOW HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING

28:49 THEM.

28:49 WITH THE.

28:50 CRITICAL TIME OFF?

28:51 BUT HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING THEM.

28:53 WITH WORK.

28:54 LIFE BALANCE EVEN AS WE CUT THE

28:57 HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS

28:58 FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?

29:02 WELL, I YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE

29:04 IS UH UM THE BUDGET DOES

29:06 INCLUDE RESOURCES FOR HEALTH

29:07 AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS AT THE

29:09 POLICE DEPARTMENT.

29:09 UH, THERE'S BEEN UH, INVEST UH

29:12 INVESTMENTS IN THE LAST YEARS

29:14 UH, IN THEIR OCCUPATIONAL

29:16 HEALTH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES TO

29:18 SORT OF, UH, HELP FACILITATE

29:20 OFFICERS WHO ARE UH, UH,

29:22 MEDICALLY INCAPACITATED TO

29:24 LIKE, UH, RETURN BACK TO THE

29:26 WORKFORCE.

29:26 SO I THINK THEY'VE BEEN VERY

29:28 SUCCESSFUL ON THAT AT.

29:28 THE GYM.

29:29 I DO BELIEVE I DO.

29:30 BELIEVE IN THE BUT THAT THAT

29:32 HAS BEEN CUT THOUGH, HASN'T IT?

29:34 THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS ASPECT

29:35 OF THE POLICE?

29:38 UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF BUT I

29:40 CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP ON

29:41 THAT.

29:42 I BELIEVE FOR THE POLICE AND

29:43 FIRE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS UM

29:46 TYPE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN HAVE

29:48 BEEN CUT.

29:50 UM.

29:52 SO SO.

29:52 WHAT ARE WE.

29:53 DOING TO.

29:53 TO ENSURE.

29:54 THAT POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

29:56 WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY

29:58 CONSISTENTLY HAVE THE RIGHT

30:00 HAVE THE RIGHT TIME OFF AND

30:02 SLEEP SO THAT THEY CAN BE

30:04 EFFECTIVE ON THEIR JOB?

30:08 I KNOW UH JUST FROM HEARING UH

30:10 TESTIMONY IN PAST THERE ARE

30:11 STRICT RULES AROUND THE NUMBER

30:13 OF HOURS THAT OFFICERS ARE UM

30:16 UH, ARE ELIGIBLE TO WORK AND

30:18 THEY DO UM THEY DO TRACK THAT

30:22 STAY ON TOP OF THAT.

30:23 UM, BUT THE UH BUT IT'S NOT.

30:27 ALL BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT.

30:28 OFFICERS ARE TELLING ME.

30:29 OFFICERS ARE TELLING ME THAT

30:30 THE CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16

30:32 HOUR DAYS AND AND THEN THE THE

30:35 GOING HOME AND THE THEY'RE

30:37 TRYING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT

30:39 OF TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY THEN

30:39 THEY'RE BACK TO WORK AGAIN.

30:41 THEY THEY'RE TELLING ME IT'S

30:42 IT'S IMPACTING THE HEALTH AND

30:45 WELLNESS OF OFFICERS AND ALSO

30:47 WORK LIFE BALANCE.

30:49 THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ISSUES I

30:50 JUST CAN'T IGNORE.

30:53 UM, THEY'RE IMPORTANT.

30:54 TO ME.

30:58 UH, YEAH.

30:58 COUNCILOR FLYNN SORRY, I JUST I

31:00 WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU SIX

31:01 MINUTES.

31:01 YOU GOT ANOTHER MINUTE LEFT?

31:03 UH, AND THEN I WILL WE'LL ALSO

31:04 BE JOINED BY

31:05 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

31:06 YEAH, BUT BUT MR CHAIR, THESE

31:08 ARE THESE ARE ISSUES.

31:09 THAT.

31:10 ARE THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE

31:11 NEED TO HAVE A.

31:12 SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT AND

31:14 WE'RE NOT.

31:15 DOING THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A

31:17 CONVERSATION ABOUT WORK LIFE

31:19 BALANCE FOR POLICE OFFICERS,

31:20 HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING POLICE

31:22 OFFICERS.

31:23 UM, JUST BECAUSE WE.

31:25 IGNORE A SUBJECT DOESN'T MEAN

31:26 THE SUBJECT GOES AWAY.

31:30 SO MY MY JOB MY.

31:32 RESPONSIBILITY IS.

31:33 TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.

31:34 THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE PUT ME IN

31:35 OFFICE FOR TO ASK ASK THE TOUGH

31:37 QUESTIONS AND AND MAKE CHANGES.

31:41 SO I'M.

31:42 STILL.

31:42 NOT CONFIDENT FROM THIS

31:45 CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE A

31:46 PLAN TO ADDRESS HEALTH AND

31:48 WELLNESS PROGRAMS, THAT WE HAVE

31:50 A PLAN TO ADDRESS 16 HOUR WORK

31:52 DAYS.

31:53 AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO

31:55 POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE'RE

31:57 PUTTING THEM IN THIS PARTICULAR

31:59 SITUATION WORKING 16 HOURS A

32:02 DAY AND THEN KNOWING THAT THAT.

32:04 WHEN WHEN AN ISSUE.

32:06 DOES COME COME UP.

32:07 THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE.

32:09 SUPPORTED AT BOSTON CITY HALL

32:10 WE ALL KNOW THAT.

32:12 THIS THAT THIS THIS CITY

32:14 COUNCIL IS DONE FOR THE FOR THE

32:15 MOST PART DON'T RESPECT THE

32:16 WORK THE POLICE OFFICERS.

32:18 DO SO I DO WE I DO THINK WE WE

32:21 NEED TO HAVE A.

32:22 SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.

32:23 I RESPECT THE WORK JIM IS DOING

32:25 BUT I WISH I COULD GET ANSWERS

32:28 TO THIS.

32:29 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

32:29 OKAY.

32:30 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

32:32 I JUST JUST MAYBE TO CLARIFY A

32:34 LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY'S

32:36 HEARING.

32:36 SO, UH BUT DIRECTOR.

32:38 WILLIAMSON, CAN YOU.

32:39 JUST EXPLAIN?

32:40 SO WE VOTED IN MAY TO APPROVE

32:43 2% INCREASES THAT WERE, UH, YOU

32:46 KNOW, TAKEN MONEY OUT OF THE,

32:47 UH, THE RESERVE.

32:48 NOW WE'RE VOTING AGAIN.

32:51 IS THIS ON?

32:52 IS THIS TO MAINTAIN THAT 2%

32:54 INCREASE THAT WE VOTED BACK IN

32:55 MAY, IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL 2%

32:58 INCREASE?

32:58 JUST JUST CAN YOU.

32:59 EXPLAIN THE MATH.

33:01 COUNCIL I THINK WHAT YOU SAID

33:02 UH, BEFORE IS EVEN THOUGH THE

33:04 CONTRACTS EXPIRE, THE THE

33:06 EXISTING TERMS OF THE CONTRACT

33:07 CONTINUE AND SO THE THE THE

33:09 WAGE BENEFITS THAT WERE

33:10 APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MAY, UM

33:13 ARE IN PLACE IN UH THE OFFICE

33:16 THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT

33:17 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S 527

33:18 BUDGET HAS SUFFICIENT RESOURCES

33:20 TO COVER THOSE.

33:21 YEAH, I.

33:22 UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT

33:23 DOESN'T MEAN YOU.

33:23 DON'T HAVE A A.

33:24 SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

33:26 MR CHAIR, ABOUT ABOUT HEALTH

33:28 AND WELLNESS.

33:29 OF POLICE OFFICERS.

33:30 YOU STILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE

33:32 EVEN.

33:33 THOUGH WE HAD A CONVERSATION

33:34 IN MAY, IT'S.

33:35 EVEN MORE.

33:35 IMPORTANT NOW TO HAVE THAT

33:37 CONVERSATION TO LEARN ABOUT.

33:39 WHAT WHAT TOOK.

33:40 PLACE IN MAY TO THE PRESENT

33:42 OF HOW WE'RE.

33:42 SUPPORTING POLICE OFFICERS.

33:43 BECAUSE WE.

33:44 HAD A HEARING.

33:45 UM, A BUDGET HEARING ON IT SIX

33:47 MONTHS AGO AND AS IF THAT'S

33:49 THAT'S THAT'S NECESSARY AND

33:52 THAT WILL COVER US TODAY.

33:53 I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH

33:54 THAT.

33:54 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A

33:55 SERIOUS CONVERSATION AND IT

33:57 DOESN'T SEEM LIKE.

33:58 YOU WANT.

33:59 TO ASK THOSE TOUGH

34:00 QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR.

34:01 NO.

34:02 OKAY.

34:02 WELL, UH, I.

34:03 YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING A

34:05 CONVERSATION ABOUT STAFFING AT

34:08 THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UH,

34:11 YOU KNOW, ISSUES OF OF OF HOW

34:13 OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING

34:16 THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

34:17 I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE

34:19 SUBJECT OF TODAY'S MEETING,

34:20 BUT.

34:21 MR CHAIR.

34:21 IT'S.

34:22 NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

34:23 IT'S NOT GOING TO GET

34:24 SCHEDULED.

34:25 THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE.

34:26 QUESTIONS BECAUSE UM, OUR

34:28 COLLEAGUES DON'T WANT TO HAVE

34:29 A.

34:30 SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT

34:31 WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE POLICE

34:33 DEPARTMENT.

34:33 SO I HAVE TO TAKE THE

34:34 OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS

34:37 AND GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT

34:38 I'M NOT HAPPY.

34:39 WITH THE WAY WE'RE WAITING.

34:40 POLICE OFFICERS.

34:41 WE'RE TREATING THEM WITH

34:42 DISRESPECT, MISTER.

34:43 CHAIR, AND PEOPLE REMAIN

34:44 SILENT.

34:45 OKAY.

34:46 NOTED COUNCILOR FLYNN.

34:48 COUNCILOR MURPHY, I'M GOING TO

34:50 GIVE YOU, UH, SIX MINUTES.

34:52 THANK YOU.

34:52 COME FIRST.

34:54 JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR

34:56 FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE

34:57 OFFICERS.

34:58 WE HAVE BEEN PATTING OURSELVES

35:00 ON THE BACK FOR HAVING SUCH A

35:02 SAFE AND CROWDED, FUN SUMMER.

35:05 BUT IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED BY

35:07 ME THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OUR

35:08 FIRST RESPONDERS STEPPED UP AND

35:10 WERE AT ALL OF THE EVENTS

35:11 ACROSS THE CITY AND WORKING A

35:13 LOT OF OVERTIME TO MAKE SURE

35:15 THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THE PLANS

35:18 THAT THEY WERE EXPECTED TO

35:20 FOLLOW THROUGH ON.

35:20 SO THANK YOU TO THAT.

35:22 I ALSO WANT TO ASK THANK YOU

35:24 FOR BEING HERE, JIM.

35:25 BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A

35:28 CONTRACT IS LABOR RELATIONS ON

35:29 THIS HEARING OR WERE THEY

35:30 INVITED?

35:35 I BELIEVE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR

35:36 THE FOR ME.

35:38 UH SO UH.

35:39 WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THAT.

35:40 YEAH NO I BE BECAUSE WE'RE

35:42 COVERING THE SAME UH, SUBJECT

35:45 MATTER THAT WE COVERED IN MAY.

35:47 UH.

35:48 I DO FEEL THOSE THINGS.

35:49 COME UP BECAUSE I HAVE SOME

35:50 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE

35:51 NEW INFORMATION FROM THE LAST

35:53 TIME AND IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE

35:56 TO KEEP THIS CONTRACT GOING

35:57 BECAUSE WE COULD VOTE NO AND

36:01 ASK FOR MORE IF NEEDED.

36:02 SO I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT'S

36:05 NECESSARY AND I DO WANT TO

36:06 THANK MAYBE JEAN IS ON BUT I DO

36:08 KNOW THAT PRESIDENT GRIFFIN

36:10 FROM THE UM DETECTIVES UNION IS

36:13 ON.

36:13 HE'S NOT A PANELIST NOW, BUT HE

36:15 DID HOP ON TO LISTEN.

36:16 HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS

36:17 MEETING.

36:18 SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

36:19 UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE BUDGETED

36:22 FOR 283 DETECTIVES AND I

36:27 BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE 238.

36:29 SO WE'RE SHORT ABOUT 45

36:31 DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW AND

36:33 DETECTIVES JIM I'M NOT SURE IF

36:34 YOU KNOW THIS BUT IF YOU CAN

36:35 HELP ANSWER THIS OUR CIVIL

36:37 SERVICE PATROL OFFICERS AND

36:38 THEY CAN SUPPLEMENT THE POLICE

36:40 FORCE AND THAT WE ALSO HAD BEEN

36:45 TOLD AND THE DETECTIVES HAVE

36:47 BEEN TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO

36:49 HAVE A CLASS OF 25 GOING IN THE

36:51 ACADEMY THIS MONTH AND THIS

36:52 MONTH IS ALMOST OVER.

36:54 DO WE KNOW ONE THAT CLASS

36:55 OF NEW DETECTIVES WILL BE

36:57 TRAINED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE

36:59 WE'VE DELAYED IT AND WE KNOW

37:01 WE'RE ALREADY SHORT 45

37:03 DETECTIVES.

37:04 I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO, UH,

37:06 COUNSELOR ON THE ON THE UH ON

37:09 UH WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE UH,

37:11 RATE AND UH, PLACE DETECTIVES

37:13 INTO UH.

37:15 UM IF WE FOLLOW ANY SORT

37:17 OF BUDGET SORT OF RECRUIT

37:18 CLASSES FOR, UH, PATROL

37:20 OFFICERS AND THINGS.

37:22 BUT DETECTIVE, SORT OF I'D HAVE

37:23 TO FIND OUT FROM THE POLICE

37:25 DEPARTMENT.

37:26 UM, WE'RE ARE YOU TOLD WHEN

37:28 CLASSES ARE BUDGETED BUT THEN

37:30 CANCELED?

37:31 DO YOU KNOW OR IF.

37:32 YOU ALSO.

37:33 TOLD LIKE A CERTAIN NUMBER

37:35 OF BUDGETED BUT WE'RE UNDER

37:36 THAT.

37:37 HOW DO YOU GET NOTIFIED

37:38 OF THAT?

37:38 UH, WE WE IT GOES THROUGH THE

37:41 HIRING PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE

37:43 SAYING THEY WANT TO PROMOTE A

37:44 CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DETECTIVES,

37:46 UM.

37:47 UH.

37:48 OF RATE THEM AS DETECTIVES.

37:49 THERE IS A PROCESS THAT UM I

37:52 THINK YOU RATE IT AND THEN UH,

37:54 SIX MONTHS THEN YOU'RE

37:57 OFFICIALLY LIKE A DETECTIVE

37:58 AFTER THE TRAINING PERIOD.

38:00 AND I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION I

38:02 WISH SOMEONE WAS HERE WHO COULD

38:03 ANSWER ME PROPERLY.

38:04 BUT I WANT TO PUT THIS QUESTION

38:06 ON THE RECORD.

38:07 ARE WE PURPOSELY NOT TRAINING

38:10 DETECTIVES BECAUSE WE'RE LOW ON

38:12 PATROL OFFICERS?

38:14 AND IF PATROL OFFICERS ARE

38:18 PROMOTED, WHICH THEY SHOULD BE

38:19 WHEN THEY STUDY AND DESERVE

38:21 THESE PROMOTIONS BUT THEY'RE

38:22 CHOOSING NOT TO PROMOTE THEM

38:24 BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THEM AWAY

38:25 FROM.

38:26 BEING SLOTS IN THE DIFFERENT,

38:28 YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS ACROSS

38:30 THE CITY WHERE WE'RE ALREADY

38:31 UNDERSTAFFED BY POLICE OFFICERS

38:33 BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE

38:34 CONCERNING TO ME MY FOR NOT

38:36 ALLOWING OFFICERS WHO HAVE

38:38 STUDIED AND WORKED HARD TO GET

38:40 PROMOTED BECAUSE WE CAN'T

38:41 AFFORD TO LOSE THEM AS OFFICERS

38:45 PATROLMEN.

38:46 SO WE'RE GOING TO NOT ALLOW

38:47 THEM TO BE DETECTIVES IN THAT

38:49 CASE DO YOU KNOW DO WE PRORATE

38:50 THEIR RAISES IF WE KNOW THAT

38:53 THEY WERE NOT PROMOTED NOT BY

38:57 THEIR CHOICE BUT WE JUST

38:58 COULDN'T AFFORD TO.

39:00 I'M NOT SURE, COUNSELOR.

39:02 I DON'T THINK SO.

39:03 BUT OKAY.

39:04 AND THIS JUST CONFUSING RIGHT

39:07 TO KNOW WHAT CAN THE PATROL

39:09 OFFICERS DO AND IF WE'RE

39:11 CHOOSING NOT TO PROMOTE THEM

39:12 THEN THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.

39:14 UM, THEN ARE YOU EXPECTING TO

39:15 VOTE ON THIS WEDNESDAY?

39:18 UH, I I WOULD LIKE TO, UH YOU

39:22 KNOW, IF YOU I GUESS IF YOU

39:24 HAVE QUESTIONS.

39:25 GET SOME ANSWERS BEFORE THEN

39:26 ARE YOU CONFIDENT YOU COULD.

39:27 YEP.

39:27 I CAN CERTAINLY, UH, REACH OUT

39:31 TO UH WE CAN.

39:33 WE CAN TRY TO GET ANSWERS ON

39:35 THESE ON WEDNESDAY AND, UH, YOU

39:37 KNOW, IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD

39:39 JUST TAKE AN EXTRA WEEK, YOU

39:41 KNOW, TO GET THE ANSWERS I CAN

39:42 WE CAN VOTE ON IT.

39:44 I THINK.

39:44 IT'S UP TO YOU AS THE CHAIR,

39:46 BUT WOULD YOU ALLOW, UM.

39:48 THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNION TO

39:51 ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?

39:53 I KNOW HE'S ON THIS HEARING NOW

39:54 HE'S LISTENING.

39:56 UH HUH UH I SUPPOSE YEAH, I

39:59 THINK THAT'S FINE.

40:00 WHY DON'T WE WHEN WE GET

40:01 THROUGH THIS, UH UH, WITH

40:04 MR WILLIAMSON AND WE CAN BRING

40:05 ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PUBLIC

40:07 TESTIMONY OR WE CAN BRING YOU

40:08 KNOW.

40:10 UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHAT

40:11 HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO

40:12 ALSO COUNCIL FLYNN REMEMBER

40:13 WHEN IT WAS LARRY SPOKE AS

40:16 PUBLIC TESTIMONY, NOT AS A

40:17 PANELIST BECAUSE HE WASN'T ALSO

40:19 INVITED TO BE PART OF THE

40:20 CONVERSATION.

40:21 I JUST THINK IT WOULD MAKE LIFE

40:23 EASIER FOR EVERYONE AND SHOW

40:25 THE RESPECT TO OUR UNION

40:26 PRESIDENT TO REPRESENT OUR CITY

40:28 WORKERS.

40:29 UM THANK YOU.

40:30 I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I

40:31 HOPE WE CAN GET THESE QUESTIONS

40:33 ANSWERED AND WE CAN RESPECT THE

40:34 UNION LEADERS WHO SHOW UP EVERY

40:36 DAY FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.

40:38 THANK YOU.

40:39 OKAY.

40:40 UM.

40:42 UH, YES.

40:43 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD OR IS

40:44 RIGHT.

40:45 UH.

40:46 JUST, UH SIX MINUTES.

40:50 UM UH YES.

40:52 I'LL, UH I'LL FILL OUT JUST AT

40:54 THE TOP BUT WE HAD A HEARING IN

40:56 MAY ON THIS CONTRACT CONTRACTS

40:58 EXPIRED BUT, UH, TRYING TO

41:01 PROVIDE THE SAME WAGE INCREASE

41:03 SO THERE IS UH, DOCKETS TO, UH,

41:05 PULL MONEY FROM THE RESERVES

41:07 FOR THE DETECTIVES AND THE

41:09 DETECTIVE SUPERIOR OFFICERS.

41:11 UH, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE

41:14 SORT OF HAVING A MORE TRUNCATED

41:17 PROCESS OR AT LEAST THAT'S THAT

41:19 WAS THE IDEA.

41:20 UH, AND WE NEED WE'RE GOING TO

41:21 HEAR FROM, UH.

41:23 YOU KNOW.

41:23 SOME UH, UNION, UH,

41:26 REPRESENTATION BUT SO SIX

41:28 MINUTES.

41:30 THANK YOU SIR.

41:30 UH.

41:31 FIRST I JUST WANT TO GET

41:32 EVERYONE WITH SOME NUMBERS.

41:33 AND I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE

41:34 YOU GOT YOUR PEN OUT.

41:35 UM, AS OF.

41:37 AUGUST 26TH, 2026.

41:38 NEXT HAS SAID WE HAVE, UH, FOR

41:41 PATROLMEN WE HAVE 1423

41:45 PATROLMAN.

41:46 AS OF THE END OF AUGUST.

41:47 ALL RIGHT.

41:48 UH, WE HAVE 2050 ALL SWORN

41:53 INCLUDING COMMAND STAFF.

41:55 UH.

41:55 SO IF YOU INCLUDE THE

41:56 COMMAND STAFF.

41:57 THAT NUMBER JUMPS FROM.

42:00 UH 1423 TO 2050.

42:02 AND THEN WE HAVE.

42:03 241 UH DETECTIVES.

42:06 UH, THERE IS NO MINIMUM NUMBER

42:08 FOR DETECTIVES, BUT WE ARE.

42:11 SUPER SHORT ON DETECTIVE, SO I

42:12 KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM

42:14 BUT 241 UM, AND I THINK AARON,

42:18 THIS RELATES WHEN YOU GUYS WHEN

42:19 WE TRY TO DETECT THAT THEY'RE

42:21 SAYING HEY, WE'RE STRETCHED

42:22 THIN.

42:22 UH, 241 BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.

42:25 SO JUST WANTED TO, UM, GET

42:27 THOSE NUMBERS OUT THERE AS

42:28 OF THE END OF AUGUST SO WE AT

42:30 LEAST CAN WORK OFF SOMETHING

42:31 AND THAT'S FROM THAT IS FROM HR

42:34 UM, THAT WE GOT THOSE FOR THE

42:36 APD.

42:37 UH, JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

42:38 FOR BEING HERE, MAN.

42:39 UH, I JUST REALLY HAVE A, UM A

42:42 QUESTION.

42:43 I KNOW BEN JUST SORT OF GAVE

42:44 ME THE RUNDOWN.

42:45 THE CHAIR JUST GAVE ME THE

42:46 RUNDOWN, BUT, UM, SO IT

42:48 EXPIRED.

42:50 WE CONTINUE.

42:50 OFF THE FORMER CONTRACT.

42:52 IT IS THIS 2% RAISE.

42:54 IT'S CONTINUING.

42:56 SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW

42:57 JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE

42:58 GOOD.

42:59 UP UNTIL WHEN?

43:00 UP UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW

43:02 CONTRACTOR UP UNTIL THE NEXT

43:04 FISCAL YEAR.

43:05 IS THIS JUST FOR THE ENTIRE

43:07 YEAR.

43:07 YOU THIS IS TO BASICALLY MAKE

43:09 UH TO INCREASE THE POLICE

43:10 DEPARTMENT'S HAVE FOR 27 BUDGET

43:12 TO MAKE SURE IT HAS THE

43:14 RESOURCES IN IT UH FOR THAT.

43:15 CONTRACT AND DURING THAT TIME

43:18 WE ARE PLANNING TO WE'LL BE

43:20 NEGOTIATING FOR THE NEXT

43:22 CONTRACT TO TAKE EFFECT.

43:23 DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE OF IF

43:25 THAT WILL END?

43:26 WILL THAT BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO

43:29 FY 27 TO TO UH.

43:32 I'M NOT SURE ON THE TIMING

43:34 OF THE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS UH.

43:36 BUT BUT.

43:37 OKAY BUT SO WE'RE WE'RE

43:39 BASICALLY DOING THIS TO MAKE

43:40 SURE THERE'S MONEY FOR JULY 1ST

43:42 UP UNTIL JULY OR JUNE.

43:46 30TH 2027.

43:46 EXACTLY.

43:47 OKAY.

43:49 UM ALL RIGHT.

43:51 UH YEAH.

43:51 NO, I THINK THAT'S I DON'T HAVE

43:53 ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON WHAT

43:54 WAS ASKED.

43:55 UM, IT'S UH THANK YOU FOR

43:56 HELPING ME UNDERSTAND SORT

43:57 OF THE TIMELINE, UH, AND WHAT

43:59 WE GOT HERE AND I ACTUALLY

44:01 WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM IF

44:02 THERE IF THERE IS UNION.

44:04 LEADERSHIP HERE ON THE CALL FOR

44:05 TESTIMONY.

44:06 UM, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE

44:07 GREAT TO GET THEIR TAKE, UH,

44:08 THEIR SIDE OF THINGS.

44:09 SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR

44:12 ALLOWING FOR THAT AND I LOOK

44:13 FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THEM.

44:14 THANK YOU CHAIR.

44:15 YEAH.

44:15 THANK YOU,

44:16 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

44:17 UH, I JUST UH SO I GUESS, UH,

44:20 DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON IT'S A, UH

44:22 DO YOU KNOW, IN THE NEW

44:24 CONTRACT, ARE THERE, UM THERE

44:26 ANY CHANGES FOR HEALTH CARE?

44:29 UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HEAR

44:31 HOW HEALTH CARE COSTS.

44:32 ARE INCREASING.

44:36 I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING NOTED

44:39 ON THE SUMMARIES, COUNSELOR.

44:41 OKAY.

44:42 UM.

44:43 BUT I WOULD DEFER THAT.

44:44 OKAY.

44:45 UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE

44:47 TIMING, UH, CAN YOU JUST

44:49 EXPLAIN LIKE IF WE HOLD OFF ON

44:52 VOTING LIKE WHAT?

44:53 WHAT IS THE WHY IS THIS BEING

44:55 PUT UP NOW AND.

44:56 RIGHT RIGHT.

44:58 LIKE UM, YOU KNOW ON LIKE SORT

45:00 OF LIKE A THE ORIGINAL 1ST MAY

45:02 THAT THAT.

45:04 UH KICKS OFF THE ABILITY TO

45:05 ACTUALLY EXECUTE AND GIVE THE

45:06 WAGE INCREASE THE WAGE

45:08 INCREASES ARE HAVE ALREADY

45:10 HAPPENED AND THIS IS REALLY

45:11 JUST A CORRECTION OR OF ABOUT A

45:13 527 BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT

45:15 IT'S.

45:15 THE RIGHT VALUE.

45:16 TO UH, COVER THESE COSTS.

45:19 OKAY.

45:19 UM, AND UH YEAH, I JUST

45:22 FOLLOWING UP ON

45:24 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD'S POINT I

45:25 KNOW IN MAY WE TALKED ABOUT.

45:26 JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES I THINK

45:28 IT WAS THAT, UH WE HEARD THAT.

45:31 THE DEPARTMENT IS SHORT STAFFED

45:33 OF APPROXIMATELY 45 DETECTIVES

45:35 UH, BACK THEN.

45:36 SO IT SOUNDS SIMILAR UH UH,

45:40 NUMBERS.

45:41 UM, OKAY, I I WE I'M FINE.

45:45 IF THERE IS ANY REPRESENTATION

45:48 WE CAN, UH, SORT OF SET UP UH,

45:51 YOU KNOW, A SECOND PANEL HERE

45:53 AGAIN IF PEOPLE HAVE SOME

45:56 QUESTIONS UM, AND I DON'T KNOW

46:00 IF UNION REPRESENTATION WANTS

46:02 TO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE SUBJECT

46:03 THEMSELVES TO THAT BUT, UM,

46:05 DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY

46:06 QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR

46:08 WILLIAMSON?

46:09 YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL GO IN

46:10 ORDER.

46:11 UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

46:13 MR CHAIR, UH.

46:15 I YOU KNOW, I SAID AT THE

46:17 BEGINNING I WOULD LIKE TO.

46:18 HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE THE

46:20 POLICE OFFICERS AND THE UNION.

46:22 UNION LEADERSHIP.

46:23 UM, RESPECT THEM.

46:26 UH, WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE

46:27 TO SAY SO I DON'T HAVE ANY

46:29 QUESTIONS.

46:29 I'D RATHER I'D RATHER USE MY

46:30 TIME TO HEAR FROM, UM, THE

46:32 POLICE OFFICERS AND THE UNION

46:34 UNION MEMBERS.

46:35 OKAY.

46:36 UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN OR

46:38 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD?

46:39 UM, SAME.

46:39 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT

46:41 PANEL.

46:41 THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

46:42 OKAY.

46:43 UH, OKAY.

46:46 UH, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR

46:48 WILLIAMSON.

46:50 UH UH, KIRISHIMA I DON'T KNOW.

46:53 UM YOU.

46:54 I'VE PROMOTED MR GRIFFIN AS A

46:56 PANELIST SO YOU CAN CALL ON

46:57 HIM.

46:57 OKAY.

46:58 UH, YEAH.

47:00 UH UM.

47:02 UH, YES.

47:02 BOB GRIFFIN, YOU'RE HERE I

47:04 GUESS, UH, IF.

47:06 YOU YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT

47:07 TO SAY?

47:08 YOU GOT A COUPLE MINUTES?

47:10 UH, AND THEN WE'LL, UH WE HAVE

47:12 THREE COUNSELORS HERE IF THEY

47:13 HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

47:15 UH, UM.

47:17 WE'LL GO FROM THERE.

47:18 SO, UH, I GUESS THE FLOOR IS

47:20 YOURS.

47:22 WELL.

47:23 THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE

47:25 COUNCIL MURPHY, UH, FOR

47:25 INVITING MEJIA.

47:26 UH, I APPRECIATE IT.

47:28 UH, I JUST I GOT AN I GOT IN

47:30 LATE UM, TO THE CONVERSATION

47:32 HERE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE I

47:34 THINK WE ARE ABOUT 238 TO 241

47:37 DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW WE'RE

47:38 BUDGET FOR 283.

47:40 THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A

47:41 CLASS OF DETECTIVES IN I THINK

47:43 IT MR WILLIAMSON WAS SAYING HE

47:44 WAS SAYING MAYBE ABOUT SIX

47:46 MONTHS THAT IT'S ONLY A MONTH

47:47 TO TRAIN DETECTIVES.

47:48 THEY GET OUT AND THEN THEY CAN

47:50 BE, UM, A DETECTIVE.

47:51 THE SIX MONTHS IS FOR SUPERIOR

47:53 DETECTIVES.

47:54 SO IF THE, UM A SERGEANT, UH,

47:57 GETS PUT INTO A UNIT, UH, THEY

47:59 HAVE TO STAY IN THAT, YOU KNOW,

48:00 FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN THE

48:01 UNIT UM, INVESTIGATIVE UNIT

48:04 THEY'LL PUT THEM INTO THE UNIT

48:05 FOR SIX MONTHS, THEY'LL RATE

48:06 THEM.

48:06 DETECTIVE, DON'T, UH, SERGEANT

48:08 DETECTIVE LIEUTENANT.

48:09 DETECTIVE CAPTAIN DETECTIVE.

48:10 UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

48:13 UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET YOU

48:16 KNOW, EVEN WITH THE CLASS OF 25

48:18 THAT POSSIBLY WILL BE GOING IN

48:19 OCTOBER THAT WE WERE TOLD

48:20 SEPTEMBER THEN GOT MOVE TO

48:22 OCTOBER.

48:23 NOT NOW.

48:24 UH, SO IF IT GOES IN

48:25 OCTOBER NOW YOU'RE TALKING LATE

48:26 NOVEMBER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO

48:28 WE'RE GOING TO GET UH SOME

48:29 RELIEF AND I JUST WANT TO SAY

48:31 CASTLE MURPHY KIND OF TOUCHED

48:32 ON THIS WE HAVE 238 TO 241

48:35 RIGHT.

48:35 BUT AND THE PATROLMEN ARE DOWN

48:36 A LITTLE BIT.

48:37 WE DID A FOIA REQUEST THROUGH,

48:39 UH, HUMAN RESOURCES WHERE ABOUT

48:40 THAT WITH THE SAME OH, THAT THE

48:42 PATROLMAN RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE

48:43 ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND STILL

48:45 UNDERSTAFFED.

48:45 DEFINITELY.

48:46 UH, BUT WE ARE 50 ALMOST COMING

48:50 UP ON 50 BELOW WHERE WE WERE AT

48:52 UH 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO.

48:54 THE CASELOADS ARE GETTING

48:55 HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE YOU KNOW

48:57 ,THEY THINK OF WHAT HAS

48:58 CHANGED IN THE LAST YOU KNOW,

48:59 WITH AI AND WITH WITH UM YOU

49:01 KNOW, THE CAMERA STUFF THAT

49:02 WE'VE UM OUR MEMBERS HAVE TO GO

49:04 INTO AND SEARCH ALL THIS ALL

49:06 THIS FOOTAGE, ALL THIS DATA AND

49:08 CELL PHONES, ALL THAT THERE'S

49:09 SO MANY THINGS NOW WITH

49:10 TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE DOING

49:11 DIFFERENTLY.

49:12 SO WE'RE HAVING THE CASELOAD

49:13 THE LARGER THE THE WORK IS

49:15 HARDER NOW AND WE'RE GETTING UM

49:17 WE HAVING LESS DETECTIVE SO THE

49:19 AND IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE

49:22 HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR

49:23 MEMBERS RIGHT.

49:24 THE CASELOAD IS CRAZY BUT WE

49:26 CAN ALSO IF WE HAVE LIKE THE

49:28 PATROLMAN WE SUPPLEMENT THE

49:30 PATROL FORCE ON THIS SHORT WE

49:31 GET ORDERED INTO INTO UNIFORM

49:34 THE PATROLMAN THEY DON'T

49:36 SUPPLEMENT OUR CASELOADS.

49:37 WE WE DO OUR OWN CASELOAD

49:38 BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE'RE READY,

49:40 WE'RE TRAINED AND WE'RE READY

49:41 DETECTIVES.

49:41 SO THAT RIGHT THERE I I WOULD

49:44 SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS

49:45 TO PUT MORE DETECTIVES ON GET

49:46 US BACK UP TO THE 278 TO 83.

49:49 BUT IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND

49:50 WELLNESS, I NOTICED YOU GUYS

49:51 WERE ALL AT THE UM AND IT WAS

49:53 GREAT.

49:54 UH, WE HAD THE US YOU KNOW, THE

49:56 DOG DIAGNOSTIC SERVICES IN LAST

49:58 LAST YEAR YOU GUYS WERE UP IN

50:00 WEST ROXBURY FOR THE

50:02 FIREFIGHTERS LAST WEEK I

50:03 BELIEVE.

50:03 YES I'VE YEP I WAS OUT THERE.

50:06 YOU KNOW I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR

50:07 THAT.

50:07 I CONGRATULATE THEM FOR GETTING

50:08 THAT DONE.

50:09 WE AND THAT'S I THINK FUNDED BY

50:10 THE CITY THROUGH A GRANT WE

50:12 DON'T WHEN WE DO THAT WE HAVE

50:13 THEM IN FOR OUR MEMBERS WE WE

50:16 HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FUNDRAISE

50:18 FOR OUR HEALTH HEALTH

50:19 SCREENINGS.

50:20 SO WE RAISE MONEY AND WE SPEND

50:21 OUR OWN MONEY AS A UNION TO DO

50:22 THAT FOR OUR MEMBERS.

50:23 AND WE'VE DONE ABOUT 300

50:24 MEMBERS IN THE LAST 3 OR 4

50:26 YEARS AND WE FUND AND EVERY

50:27 TIME YOU DO THEM YOU TALK TO ED

50:29 KELLY I SAW WAS THERE IF THE IF

50:30 SAM DILLON EVERY TIME YOU DO

50:32 100 MEMBERS YOU GET ABOUT THREE

50:33 PEOPLE THAT YOU SAVE IN THEIR

50:35 LIVES.

50:36 SO WE'RE SAVING LIVES WHEN WE

50:37 DO THIS BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE

50:39 HAVE TO FUNDRAISE AND THE, UH,

50:42 CREDIT UNION DOWN AT THE FIRST

50:43 RESPONDERS CREDIT UNION HAS

50:44 BEEN GREAT TO US.

50:44 SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO

50:46 WITH US.

50:46 BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

50:48 THINK THE CITY SHOULD DO.

50:49 THIS SHOULD BE A BUDGET IN THE

50:50 CITY UM IN THE BUDGET FOR SOME

50:51 FUNDING FOR SOME FUNDS FOR US

50:53 TO HAVE UH THE HEALTH

50:54 SCREENINGS DONE AS WELL AND

50:56 RATHER THAN HAVE US MAKE A

50:57 RECORD AND RAISE OUR OWN FUNDS

50:58 FOR A BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S LIFE

51:00 SAVING UH, SCREENINGS.

51:02 UH, BUT UM.

51:03 YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT JUST

51:05 BECAUSE YOU MISSED THE

51:06 BEGINNING, UH, OF SO WHAT WE'RE

51:08 HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY

51:10 IS THE 2% WAGE INCREASES THAT

51:12 WERE APPROVED, UH, IN MAY.

51:16 YOU KNOW WHERE THOSE DOCKETS

51:17 ARE BEFORE US?

51:19 UH, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING

51:22 THAT THE UNION, UH, YOU KNOW,

51:25 PENDING THE RENEGOTIATION OR

51:27 NEGOTIATION OF THE NEW CONTRACT

51:29 WOULD SUPPORT THE THE 2%, YOU

51:32 KNOW, GETTING THE MONEY OUT

51:33 OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

51:35 RESERVE TO FUND 2% WAGE

51:37 INCREASES FOR YOUR MEMBERS THAT

51:39 THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S WHAT

51:41 WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.

51:42 I YOU KNOW, I KNOW UH, MY MY

51:44 COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO

51:45 HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER ISSUES AND

51:47 THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WITH UH

51:49 WITH YOUR MEMBERS AND WE

51:51 CERTAINLY AS A COUNCIL WE

51:52 SHOULD BE WORKING ON THESE ARE

51:53 ALL WORTHWHILE.

51:54 THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.

51:55 AND THANK YOU FOR

51:56 HIGHLIGHTING THOSE.

51:56 UH, BUT AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO MY

51:59 COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS JUST

52:00 JUST TO GIVE YOU THE THE LEVEL

52:02 SET HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

52:03 DOCKET, UH, DOCKETS THAT WOULD

52:04 TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE

52:05 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVES

52:06 TO.

52:07 FUND UH, THE WAGES FOR UH, THE

52:11 DETECTIVES BENEVOLENT UH

52:13 SOCIETY AND THE DETECTIVE.

52:14 BENEVOLENT SOCIETY FOR SUPERIOR

52:17 OFFICERS UM.

52:18 SO THAT WE HAD APPROVED LAST

52:19 YEAR.

52:20 BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

52:22 I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO

52:23 THROW IT TO MY COLLEAGUES.

52:25 UH UH, YOU KNOW, HOW ABOUT.

52:27 UM YOU KNOW.

52:28 WE'LL GIVE YOU.

52:30 LET'S SEE FOUR MINUTES UH, FOR

52:33 QUESTIONS.

52:33 YOU KNOW, MR CHAIR, SIX

52:35 MINUTES.

52:36 UM SIX MINUTES.

52:37 HE'S HE'S HE'S.

52:38 A.

52:38 UNION PRESIDENT.

52:39 YES, I HEAR YOU.

52:40 UH, WELL, IT'S A SURPRISE THAT,

52:41 UH, WE'RE DOING FOUR MINUTES IF

52:43 YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS

52:44 WILL.

52:44 COME BACK.

52:46 OKAY.

52:47 WELL.

52:47 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO

52:49 BOB AND, UM, HIS

52:51 PROFESSIONALISM AND HIS

52:52 ADVOCACY FOR HIS MEMBERS.

52:55 UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS AN

52:56 ISSUE WITH.

52:57 WE'VE TALKED.

52:58 ABOUT AND WORKED ON FOR UH FOR

53:00 FOR MANY YEARS I WAS I WAS

53:03 LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION

53:05 AND.

53:06 IT STRUCK ME.

53:08 THAT BASICALLY.

53:09 UNION THE UNION AND MEMBERS ARE

53:12 ALMOST PAYING FOR THEIR OWN

53:15 ASPECTS.

53:15 SOME PARTS OF THEIR HEALTH AND

53:17 WELLNESS.

53:17 IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE TO.

53:19 SAY BOBBY.

53:21 THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.

53:22 UH, COST OF FUN.

53:23 THANK YOU.

53:23 AND IT'S UM.

53:26 SO SO WE GOT SOME WE GOT SOME

53:28 FUNDRAISING DOING SOME GOLF

53:29 TOURNAMENTS STUFF LIKE THAT BUT

53:31 WE ALSO I THINK WE PAID UH

53:32 MEMBERS.

53:33 PAID AND 60,000 FOR THEIR OWN

53:35 LAST YEAR SCANS FOR THEIR OWN

53:37 UH, SCANS AND UM WE HAD THEM

53:39 OUT TO THE UNION HALL.

53:40 WE BROUGHT THE THE SAME TRUCK

53:41 THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW LAST WEEK

53:43 AT THE WITH THE FIRE.

53:44 WE BROUGHT THEM TO OUR UNION

53:45 HALL AND YEAH, WE PAID FOR YOU

53:48 KNOW, WHATEVER WE COULDN'T

53:49 WHATEVER THE WE HAD LET'S SAY

53:51 50,000 IT COST $100,000.

53:53 WE PAID THE UM THE EXTRA SO

53:54 ABOUT $60,000 LAST YEAR OUT

53:56 OF OUR FUNDS.

53:58 THANK YOU.

53:59 UM THANK YOU.

53:59 THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.

54:01 RESPECT THE ANSWER AS AS A CITY

54:05 WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT.

54:08 HAVING HAVING.

54:09 POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR

54:10 FAMILIES AND THE UNION AND TO

54:13 TRY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE

54:16 HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR THEIR

54:18 MEDICAL NEEDS.

54:20 WHAT WE'RE.

54:21 ASKING THEM BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A

54:23 CRITICAL ISSUE THAT IT'S SO

54:25 IMPORTANT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO

54:26 TO.

54:27 PAY FOR IT PAY FOR.

54:28 IT ON YOUR OWN.

54:29 YOU KNOW.

54:30 THE THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO PAY

54:32 FOR ALL OF IT.

54:33 UM THE YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOU'RE

54:36 ON THE HOOK FOR SOME OF IT I

54:37 DON'T I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.

54:39 I THINK WHEN WE PUT.

54:40 SOMEONE IN HARM'S WAY FOR AN

54:43 EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME EIGHT

54:45 HOURS A DAY, 16 HOURS A DAY AND

54:48 OH, BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS HAVE

54:50 TO PAY SOME OF YOUR HEALTH AND

54:51 WELLNESS.

54:52 I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.

54:53 THAT'S NOT THE BOSTON UM, FROM

54:56 UM I'M I'M PRETTY ANGRY ABOUT

54:58 THAT RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW THIS

55:02 THIS CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T

55:04 SUPPORT.

55:04 IT DOESN'T.

55:05 SUPPORT THE RANK AND FILE

55:07 POLICE OFFICERS.

55:07 WHY WHY WHY.

55:09 DO YOU SAY THAT, ED?

55:10 WELL.

55:11 LOOK LISTEN TO WHAT WE JUST

55:13 HEARD.

55:13 THAT THAT THAT POLICE OFFICERS

55:15 ARE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN

55:16 MEDICAL CARE.

55:16 THAT'S PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS.

55:18 THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS.

55:19 THANKFULLY THEY ARE PAYING IT

55:21 THAT THE THE THE THE MEN AND

55:23 WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES AND

55:24 THE UNION THEY'RE PAYING IT BUT

55:26 THAT'S THE JOB OF A CITY.

55:27 THAT'S THE JOB OF THE CITY

55:29 GOVERNMENT IN MY OPINION.

55:32 UM I'M EMBARRASSED.

55:34 I'M REALLY EMBARRASSED AS A

55:35 LONGTIME BOSTON RESIDENT

55:37 KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT

55:40 PROVIDING POLICE OFFICERS AND

55:42 THEIR FAMILIES WITH THE

55:43 CRITICAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS

55:44 VARIOUS SCREENINGS AND I JUST

55:47 CAN'T SIT HERE AND PRETEND

55:49 THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.

55:51 AND CAN I JUST SAY ONE ONE

55:52 THING?

55:53 SORRY.

55:53 YEAH, YEAH, I.

55:54 BET I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE

55:55 ABOUT THE MONEY THAT THE 50,000

55:57 THAT I THAT WAS THROUGH

55:59 FUNDRAISING THE OTHER 60,000

56:00 WAS FROM OUR FROM OUR OWN

56:02 COFFERS LET'S SAY RIGHT THE

56:03 CITY PAID THE CITY PAY NONE

56:05 OF IT WOULD SAY THAT THEY

56:06 DIDN'T PAY HALF THEY DIDN'T

56:07 THEY PAID NONE OF IT.

56:08 YEAH I.

56:10 I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE MYSELF

56:12 AND JOHN AND ERIN WE.

56:14 WE WORKED ON DURING THE BUDGET

56:16 ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR

56:17 POLICE.

56:18 I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A

56:19 SERIOUS CONVERSATION.

56:20 GOING IN.

56:22 THE.

56:22 FUTURE ABOUT.

56:23 WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING.

56:25 TO TREAT POLICE.

56:25 OFFICERS WITH.

56:26 RESPECT OR NOT.

56:27 UM, AND IF WE ARE.

56:29 GOING TO TREAT THEM WITH

56:29 RESPECT WE HAVE TO WE.

56:31 HAVE TO ADDRESS HEALTH AND

56:32 WELLNESS AND SCREENING RELATED

56:34 ISSUES.

56:35 UM.

56:35 HIS HIS.

56:37 A POLICE OFFICER, BOBBY

56:38 GRIFFIN.

56:38 THAT'S DOING EVERYTHING.

56:40 HE CAN FOR HIS MEMBERS AND THE

56:43 CITY OF BOSTON IS NOT STEPPING

56:45 UP UM, TO.

56:46 SUPPORT TO SUPPORT THE MEMBERS

56:48 .

56:48 UM, I'M PRETTY OUTRAGED.

56:50 I'M PRETTY UPSET ABOUT THAT.

56:51 BUT, UM, I'LL I'LL I'LL LEAVE

56:55 IT TO THE NEXT

56:56 COUNCIL COLLEAGUE BECAUSE I'M

56:57 I'M OUT OF TIME, I BELIEVE.

56:58 OKAY.

56:59 YEAH.

56:59 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

57:00 UH, COUNCILOR MURPHY.

57:02 YES.

57:03 YOU'RE HERE OKAY.

57:04 YEP.

57:04 AND THANK YOU, BOBBY FOR

57:07 HOPPING ON ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE

57:08 .

57:09 AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS.

57:10 IMPORTANT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH

57:13 HEARINGS.

57:14 I BELIEVE AND OFTENTIMES WHEN I

57:17 FILE OR SPONSOR HEARINGS THE

57:18 ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T SHOW UP

57:20 TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

57:21 SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE CAN GET

57:22 SOME CLARIFYING ANSWERS TO WHAT

57:25 I BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT AND IT

57:26 DOES TIED TO THE BUDGET AND IT

57:28 TIES TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO

57:29 ADVOCATE TO MAKE SURE WE SEE IN

57:30 OUR BUDGET.

57:32 ANOTHER THING THAT IS

57:34 CONCERNING TO ME IS WHEN WE PIT

57:35 OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AGAINST

57:37 EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY OUR

57:38 FIRST RESPONDERS.

57:39 I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO

57:40 JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I THINK

57:44 IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRUE AND YOU

57:46 WOULD KNOW BEING OUT THERE ON

57:47 THE STREETS UM BOBBY BUT OUR

57:49 EMS RECENTLY IN THE NEWS WE'RE

57:51 HEARING A LOT OF EMS BEING

57:54 ATTACKED AND NOT TREATED

57:55 PROPERLY AND MAYBE NOT HAVING

57:56 ALL THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.

57:58 SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE

58:00 EMS KNOWS I'M ADVOCATING FOR

58:02 THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND

58:03 THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED AND WHEN

58:06 THE ONE I BELIEVE POINT $3

58:08 MILLION GRANT WAS NOT RENEWED

58:11 DURING THE BUDGET SEASON A

58:14 PORTION AND THANK YOU TO DANA

58:15 FARBER AND THANK YOU FOR

58:16 OUTSIDE SOURCES BUT ONLY

58:18 100,000 WAS REINSTATED UM 100%

58:23 SUPPORTED AN ADVOCATE THAT OUR

58:25 FIREFIGHTERS HAVE

58:26 CANCER SCREENING OF COURSE.

58:27 BUT WHEN YOU HEAR THAT OUR

58:29 BOSTON POLICE AND OTHER FIRST

58:30 RESPONDERS ARE THEN PAYING FOR

58:32 THEIR OWN, THAT PART OF THE

58:34 STORY WAS LEFT OFF.

58:36 SO I THINK UM, NOW THAT I HAVE

58:38 THAT INFORMATION I'LL MAKE SURE

58:40 WE'RE ADVOCATING TO MAKE SURE I

58:42 DON'T I WILL SAY KNOWLEDGE IS

58:43 POWER.

58:44 SO NOW WE CAN ADVOCATE TO MAKE

58:45 SURE THAT ALL OF OUR FIRST

58:46 RESPONDERS HAVE THE NECESSARY

58:47 SCREENINGS.

58:49 ONE OF THE BENEFITS I LOST WHEN

58:52 I SWITCHED FROM BEEPS TO CITY

58:54 HALL WAS UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD

58:56 DENTAL AND EYE CARE, RIGHT?

58:58 THAT WAS A WONDERFUL BENEFIT

58:59 AND THAT HELPED ME AND MY

59:01 FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IN WONDERFUL

59:04 WAYS.

59:05 SO EACH UNION FIGHTS AND

59:06 ADVOCATES FOR WHAT THEIR

59:08 MEMBERS NEED.

59:08 BUT WHEN YOU'RE DIGGING INTO

59:10 YOUR OWN POCKETS AND ASKING,

59:13 YOU KNOW, CREDIT UNIONS AND

59:15 NEIGHBORS TO, YOU KNOW, SPONSOR

59:17 HOLES AT A GOLF TOURNAMENT AND

59:19 THEN THAT'S NOT JUST GOING FOR

59:21 BEREAVEMENT OR MAKING SURE

59:22 SOMEONE'S WIFE MAYBE YOUR

59:24 HUSBAND AFTER A DEATH GETS, YOU

59:27 KNOW, SOME MEALS OR SUPPORTS

59:28 IT'S GOING TO DIRECT RELATED

59:32 HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE GET ON

59:34 THE JOB RIGHT.

59:35 SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE

59:36 CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.

59:38 SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL WORK

59:39 WITH YOU AND THE OTHER UNION

59:41 LEADERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE

59:42 THOSE NUMBERS CORRECT AND

59:44 SUPPORT YOUR MEMBERS.

59:45 SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

59:47 AND COUNCILOR WEBER I DON'T

59:48 HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.

59:50 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

59:51 ANY TIME WE APPROVE A NEW

59:53 BUDGET FOR THE NEW CYCLE THAT

59:55 WE GET TO ASK QUESTIONS LIKE

59:57 HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE WE DOWN?

59:58 WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?

1:00:00 WHEN IS THE NEXT CLASS?

1:00:02 SO I KNOW NOW THAT WE HAVE TO

1:00:04 MAKE SURE AND KIND OF PUSH THAT

1:00:05 THIS NEXT CLASS GOES THROUGH.

1:00:07 IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS

1:00:08 MONTH GET A DATE, MAKE SURE WE

1:00:11 CAN HOLD THEM TO THAT NEW DATE

1:00:13 IN OCTOBER AND THAT WE PROMOTE

1:00:15 THE MEMBERS RIGHT WITH THE

1:00:16 PROMOTION BECOMES MORE PAY AND

1:00:18 IT'S AN EXPENSIVE CITY TO LIVE

1:00:19 IN AND THOSE MEMBERS DESERVE

1:00:21 THAT PAY.

1:00:22 SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO

1:00:23 ADVOCATING FOR THAT.

1:00:24 THANK YOU.

1:00:25 OKAY.

1:00:26 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:00:26 UH, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

1:00:28 I THINK YOU'RE STILL ON

1:00:28 HERE.

1:00:29 YEP, YEP.

1:00:30 THANK YOU BUDDY.

1:00:32 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

1:00:34 UM, SO, UH, JUST DOING SOME

1:00:35 MATH FROM WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT

1:00:38 50,000 YOU FUNDRAISED 60,000

1:00:39 COMES OUT OF YOUR OWN COFFERS.

1:00:41 SO FOR FOR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH

1:00:43 AND OVERALL PHYSICAL WELL-BEING

1:00:45 .

1:00:46 UM.

1:00:46 UH, FOR YOUR MEMBERS LIKE IS

1:00:50 110,000 ROUGHLY WOULD THAT BE

1:00:52 LIKE IF WE WOULD HAVE BUDGET

1:00:53 FOR IT?

1:00:53 IS THAT WHAT WE WOULD SORT

1:00:55 OF BUDGET UH PER YEAR IF THE

1:00:57 CITY WOULD HAVE PICK THAT UP

1:00:58 BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A

1:00:59 NOMINAL OVERALL I DON'T KNOW

1:01:00 MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER

1:01:02 NUMBER OR IS THAT JUST LIKE

1:01:03 THAT'S THE BEST YOU KNOW

1:01:04 RAISING 50 AND GIVEN 60.

1:01:07 UM WAS SORT OF LIKE YOU JUST

1:01:09 WRITE A BAND AID IS AS YOU GO

1:01:12 UM AND IT'S PROBABLY A LARGER

1:01:14 NUMBER TO YEAH.

1:01:15 I WOULD JUST.

1:01:16 BUT THANK YOU

1:01:17 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

1:01:18 UH NO UH IF IF WE COULD HAVE A

1:01:20 GRANT FOR 100 $120,000 A YEAR

1:01:23 TOWARDS THE HEALTH SCREENING,

1:01:25 THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.

1:01:26 YEAH, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE

1:01:27 PERFECT.

1:01:27 THAT WOULD HELP OUR MEMBERS

1:01:28 TREMENDOUSLY.

1:01:30 RIGHT OKAY.

1:01:31 YEAH.

1:01:31 I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE A NOMINAL

1:01:33 FEE OR A $4.9 BILLION BUDGET TO

1:01:35 MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE

1:01:37 TAKING CARE OF THOSE THAT ARE

1:01:38 TAKING CARE OF US.

1:01:39 SO UM.

1:01:39 THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

1:01:41 SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT.

1:01:42 UM, AT LEAST WITH MY.

1:01:44 FELLOW COUNCILORS.

1:01:44 HERE UM, IN THE NEXT BUDGET

1:01:45 SESSION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET

1:01:47 THAT IN THERE.

1:01:48 UM.

1:01:48 OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T

1:01:49 THINK I WILL.

1:01:50 I TURN MY TIME OVER TO YOU, BUT

1:01:52 IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT

1:01:53 YOU'D LIKE TO PONTIFICATE UPON,

1:01:55 UH, BEFORE STEPPING DOWN, I'LL

1:01:56 GIVE YOU THE REST OF THE, UH,

1:01:57 MY TIME, PLEASE.

1:01:58 THANK YOU.

1:01:59 JUST REAL QUICK.

1:02:00 AND THIS IS A STAT I BRING UP

1:02:01 THAT, UM, THERE'S ALL KINDS

1:02:02 OF DIFFERENT STATS ABOUT, UM,

1:02:03 FIRST RESPONDERS AND I THANK

1:02:05 COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR MENTIONING

1:02:06 EMS BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH

1:02:07 HAVING SOME OF THE SAME STUFF

1:02:08 THAT WE DEAL WITH BUT AND AND

1:02:10 SOME OF THE UH THIS GUY DOCTOR

1:02:11 HAMM ROCK WHEN WE STARTED THIS

1:02:12 CAMP PROGRAM ABOUT FIVE, MAYBE

1:02:14 EIGHT YEARS AGO ACTUALLY HE UH

1:02:16 HE HAD MENTIONED ONE OF THE ONE

1:02:18 OF THE STATS IT JUST SHOOTS OUT

1:02:19 YOU AT YOU AND I'LL JUST GIVE

1:02:20 YOU THIS QUICK STAT IS THAT.

1:02:22 FOR FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE

1:02:23 OF THE STRESS LEVELS I MEAN

1:02:25 THERE'S DIFFERENT STRESS LEVELS

1:02:26 AND DIFFERENT JOBS BUT BECAUSE

1:02:27 OF THE ADRENALINE RUSHES

1:02:28 BETWEEN GOING TO CALLS YOU

1:02:29 COULD HAVE THREE DAYS TO DO

1:02:30 NOTHING AT EMS POLICE FIRE AND

1:02:32 THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BOOM YOU

1:02:33 GOT THREE CALLS AND YOUR HEART

1:02:34 RATE IS GOING UP AND DOWN GOING

1:02:35 ON THESE CALLS.

1:02:36 SO FOR.

1:02:37 US AND.

1:02:37 IT'S SIMILAR WITH THE EMS

1:02:39 AND FIRE I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT

1:02:40 BUT FOR POLICE OFFICERS YOU

1:02:41 HAVE YOUR FIRST HEART ATTACK AT

1:02:43 48 YEARS OLD TYPICALLY IT FOR

1:02:47 UH A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL

1:02:48 PUBLIC YOUR FIRST HEART ATTACK

1:02:49 IS AT 68 YEARS OLD.

1:02:50 THAT'S WHY THESE SCANS IT

1:02:51 THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY

1:02:52 THESE SCANS ARE SO NECESSARY

1:02:54 BECAUSE IT LOOKS INTO YOUR, UH,

1:02:56 YOU KNOW, 11 PART ULTRASOUND

1:02:58 AND THEN, UH, FULL BODY SCAN.

1:03:00 SO TELLS YOU WHAT YOU KNOW,

1:03:01 WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE GOING ON.

1:03:02 AND LIKE I SAID, IT SAVES

1:03:02 LIVES.

1:03:03 SO I APPRECIATE YOU TALKING

1:03:04 ABOUT IT.

1:03:04 I KNOW.

1:03:05 UM.

1:03:06 YOU GUYS ALL YOU KNOW, I

1:03:08 APPRECIATE IT.

1:03:08 THANK YOU.

1:03:11 OKAY.

1:03:12 UH, YEAH.

1:03:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:03:14 UM, I GUESS JUST A DETECTIVE

1:03:17 GRIFFIN.

1:03:18 UH, MY QUESTION IS THERE IS

1:03:20 THERE ANY MORE GAPS BETWEEN THE

1:03:23 CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE PATROL

1:03:26 OFFICERS AND THE DETECTIVES?

1:03:28 I KNOW SOME OF THE LATTER, BUT

1:03:29 THE CONTRACT WE APPROVED IN,

1:03:32 UH, IN MAY CLOSED A LOT.

1:03:34 BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT

1:03:36 SORT OF HANGING OUT THERE THAT

1:03:38 ,UM.

1:03:39 YOU KNOW, YOU'RE.

1:03:40 TRYING TO ADDRESS IN.

1:03:41 THE IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS?

1:03:44 UH, I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS GAPS

1:03:46 SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT

1:03:47 THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE

1:03:48 DETECTIVE AND PATROLMAN TWO YOU

1:03:49 .

1:03:50 KNOW.

1:03:50 DIFFERENT JOBS WE ARE CIVIL

1:03:52 SERVICE PATROLMAN.

1:03:53 BUT, UH, I MEAN, IT'S THERE WAS

1:03:55 THERE WAS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE

1:03:56 AT ONE POINT THAT PERCENTAGE

1:03:57 HAS IT'S SHRUNK A LITTLE BIT

1:03:59 LET'S SAY FROM 7 TO 5%.

1:04:01 SO IF WE GET BACK UP TO 7%

1:04:03 OF WHAT IT WAS BACK YOU KNOW,

1:04:04 1015 YEARS AGO THAT WOULD BE

1:04:06 GREAT.

1:04:06 BUT UM.

1:04:09 IN TERMS OF WE'RE AT THE SAME

1:04:10 UH, SCALES RIGHT NOW FOR UM NOT

1:04:12 SCALES BUT WE'RE AT THE SAME

1:04:14 YOU KNOW, WE SIGN THE CONTRACT

1:04:15 SIMILAR TIME.

1:04:16 SO BOTH OUR CONTRACTS EXPIRED

1:04:17 THIS PAST UH, JULY 1ST.

1:04:20 SO WE'RE.

1:04:20 WE'RE LOOKING TO NEGOTIATE

1:04:21 RIGHT NOW WITH THE.

1:04:22 CITY AND THEN JUST I MEAN,

1:04:24 MAYBE YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT

1:04:25 THIS, BUT A SHORTAGE

1:04:27 OF DETECTIVES SPECIFICALLY LIKE

1:04:28 WHAT IS THAT WHAT DOES THAT

1:04:30 MEAN?

1:04:30 UH, FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW.

1:04:33 IT MEANS SOME OF THESE

1:04:34 SPECIALIZED UNITS AREN'T

1:04:35 GETTING FILLED AND A LOT OF A

1:04:37 LOT OF THE DISTRICT UNITS

1:04:38 AREN'T GETTING FILLED.

1:04:38 MEANING MEANING THAT'S MORE

1:04:40 CASELOAD FOR ALL OUR MEMBERS,

1:04:41 RIGHT?

1:04:42 SO THAT YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GO

1:04:43 PULL MORE VIDEO.

1:04:44 YOU HAVE TO YOU'RE DOING MORE

1:04:45 SEARCH WARRANTS IF YOU'RE DOING

1:04:47 IT THE CASELOADS ARE UH IN SOME

1:04:48 STATES SOME DISTRICTS ARE BUSY

1:04:50 THAN OTHERS.

1:04:51 BUT EVERY DISTRICT NOW IT'S YOU

1:04:52 KNOW, WE TALK TO OUR MEMBERS

1:04:54 THAT THE THEY HAVE ENORMOUS

1:04:56 CASELOADS AND THE WORK IS

1:04:58 GETTING MORE UH WITH TECHNOLOGY

1:05:01 YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MORE STUFF.

1:05:02 THERE'S THERE'S MORE WAYS TO

1:05:03 TRACK PEOPLE.

1:05:03 THERE'S MORE WAYS TO, YOU KNOW,

1:05:04 SOLVE CRIMES AND STUFF LIKE

1:05:05 THAT BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE

1:05:06 TIME IN OBVIOUSLY.

1:05:08 SO UH YEAH IT'S.

1:05:09 IT'S IT'S TAXING ON IT MEANS

1:05:12 YOU CAN'T GO HOME AS OFTEN YOU

1:05:13 KNOW YOU'RE WORKING MORE AND

1:05:14 MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME TO

1:05:15 TO TO SOLVE THESE CASES AND

1:05:17 THEN YOU'RE ALSO GETTING

1:05:18 ORDERED INTO DIFFERENT UM YOU

1:05:20 KNOW, YOU CAN GET ALL INTO IF

1:05:22 YOU'RE IN A DISTRICT YOU GET A

1:05:23 LITTLE OR YOU KNOW SELLING

1:05:23 THERE'S A SHOW FOR THE LAST

1:05:25 HALF OR YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT

1:05:26 SHIFT OR FIRST HALF OR TO

1:05:27 MIDNIGHT THEN YOU'RE GETTING

1:05:28 ORDERED INTO THAT INTO UNIFORM

1:05:29 IF YOU HAVE TO BUT YOU HAVE TO

1:05:31 PUT YOUR UH CASELOAD ASIDE FOR

1:05:32 THAT FOR THOSE.

1:05:32 EIGHT HOURS.

1:05:33 YEAH.

1:05:34 OKAY.

1:05:35 UH WELL I APPRECIATED IT.

1:05:37 THANKS FOR BEING ABLE TO BEING

1:05:39 AVAILABLE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR

1:05:41 MEMBERS AND, UH.

1:05:42 THANKS FOR EVERYTHING.

1:05:43 YOU DO FOR THE CITY.

1:05:44 UH, UM LET'S SEE.

1:05:46 SO I THINK, UH, KARISHMA, IS

1:05:48 THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, FOR

1:05:49 PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:05:51 NOW, MR CHAIR?

1:05:53 OKAY.

1:05:54 UM, SO LET'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE

1:05:56 GOING TO UH, TRY TO GET ANSWERS

1:05:59 TO MY FELLOW COUNCILORS

1:06:01 QUESTIONS, UH, AND YOU KNOW, I

1:06:04 THAT I HOPEFULLY GET SOME

1:06:05 OF THOSE ANSWERS AND BRING THIS

1:06:06 UP FOR A VOTE ON WEDNESDAY IF

1:06:08 IT TURNS OUT THAT WE NEED SOME

1:06:09 MORE TIME TO GET THE ANSWERS.

1:06:10 UM, I PLAN.

1:06:12 TO WAIT.

1:06:12 MR CHAIR.

1:06:13 CAN I JUMP BACK FOR A QUICK

1:06:14 SECOND?

1:06:14 SURE, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

1:06:16 THANK YOU.

1:06:17 DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS,

1:06:19 UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD THE.

1:06:21 OPPORTUNITY TO.

1:06:23 OFFER AMENDMENTS.

1:06:25 WE GOT THAT POWER GRANTED TO

1:06:27 US.

1:06:27 UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO I OFFERED

1:06:31 AN AMENDMENT.

1:06:33 TO FUND HEALTH AND WELLNESS

1:06:35 PROGRAMS FOR THE BOSTON POLICE

1:06:37 DEPARTMENT.

1:06:37 I BELIEVE I PUT IN 500 A

1:06:39 REQUEST FOR $500,000 THAT WAS

1:06:42 THAT WAS VOTED DOWN BY CITY

1:06:45 COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

1:06:46 I WANTED TO I WANT TO GET THAT

1:06:48 ON THE RECORD.

1:06:49 UM I WAS ABLE TO GET SOME

1:06:51 FUNDING AND FOR EMS WE THEY

1:06:53 SUPPORTED THAT UM THEY VOTED IT

1:06:55 DOWN FOR BOSTON FIRE ALSO.

1:06:58 BUT I WILL CALL BECAUSE I JUST

1:07:00 WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD.

1:07:01 OUR COLLEAGUES VOTED DOWN THE

1:07:04 THE AMENDMENTS TO ADD MORE

1:07:06 MONEY INTO HEALTH AND WELLNESS

1:07:08 FOR BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

1:07:10 THE THE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND

1:07:12 BLAME ALSO LIES ON THE CITY

1:07:15 COUNCIL A FAILING TO HAVE THE

1:07:17 COURAGE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS

1:07:19 RIGHT.

1:07:20 UM SO WE CAN WE CAN SAY WE'RE

1:07:22 GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR IT AND

1:07:24 NEXT YEAR WHICH WE WILL BUT WE

1:07:26 HAVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY

1:07:27 TO DO IT LAST YEAR AND WE

1:07:29 DECIDED TO NOT DO IT AND WE WE

1:07:31 DID NOT PROVIDE THE THE

1:07:33 CRITICAL LEADERSHIP THAT WAS

1:07:35 NEEDED AT THAT TIME.

1:07:36 SO WE WE HEARD A LOT OF BOSTON

1:07:39 POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR

1:07:41 FAMILIES.

1:07:41 IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY

1:07:43 COUNCIL TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT

1:07:44 OF A BACKBONE AND STAND UP FOR

1:07:46 WHAT IS RIGHT.

1:07:47 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

1:07:48 OKAY.

1:07:49 THANK YOU.

1:07:49 I JUST AS THE CHAIR OF THE

1:07:50 WAYS.

1:07:50 AND MEANS COMMITTEE, YOU.

1:07:51 KNOW, WE.

1:07:52 WORK UH, TOGETHER ON

1:07:53 AMENDMENTS AND.

1:07:54 THIS IS ABOUT YOU.

1:07:55 GOT TO BUILD CONSENSUS WITH

1:07:56 YOUR COLLEAGUES AND FIND THAT

1:07:58 OF COURSE THE AMENDMENTS IT'S

1:08:00 A22 SIDED COIN.

1:08:00 YOU GOT TO FIND MONEY TO TAKE

1:08:02 THE PLACE AGAIN.

1:08:03 MR.

1:08:03 THE IN THE REGULAR UH.

1:08:05 WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO

1:08:06 GET A THAT'S A REAL MISTER

1:08:07 CHAIR.

1:08:08 MISTER CHAIR, I THANK YOU VERY

1:08:09 I RECOMMENDED YOUR COMMENDED

1:08:11 THAT THE MONEY I RECOMMENDED

1:08:12 THE MONEY BE TAKEN OUT

1:08:14 OF OFFICE.

1:08:15 AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

1:08:16 I COULD AT LEAST PICK UP TO

1:08:17 THAT.

1:08:17 YES OKAY.

1:08:18 YEAH THAT YOU'RE WE YEAH THAT'S

1:08:21 THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT THAT

1:08:22 WORKS NOW YOU'VE MADE.

1:08:24 YOUR COMMENTS.

1:08:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:08:25 NO NO YOU'RE PASSING THE BUCK,

1:08:27 MR CHAIR.

1:08:27 OKAY.

1:08:28 WELL, UH, I.

1:08:30 I WOULD.

1:08:31 SAY IF YOU WANT.

1:08:32 THAT AMENDMENT PASSED.

1:08:33 PLEASE WORK WITH YOUR

1:08:34 COLLEAGUES AND, UH.

1:08:35 BUILD CONSENSUS.

1:08:36 AND.

1:08:37 YOU CAN GET THAT AMENDMENT.

1:08:38 OKAY.

1:08:39 SO THANK.

1:08:39 YOU VERY MUCH.

1:08:40 THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR

1:08:41 BEING HERE.

1:08:42 THANK YOU TO THE BUDGET

1:08:43 DIRECTOR AND DETECTIVE.

1:08:44 GRIFFIN FOR.

1:08:45 MAKING THE TIME AND.

1:08:46 PROVIDING US WITH YOUR, UH,

1:08:48 THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS.

1:08:49 UH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, THIS

1:08:52 HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBERS 1671

1:08:55 TO.

1:08:55 1674.

1:08:56 IS NOW ADJOURNED.

1:08:58 NO GAVEL.

1:08:58 OKAY.

1:08:59 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:09:00 THANK YOU.

1:09:01 YES.