Ways and Means on September 28, 2026
2026-09-28

[11:39] WEBER I'M THE DISTRICT SIX CITY
[11:41] COUNCILOR AND THE CHAIR OF THE
[11:42] BOSTON CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS AND
[11:44] MEANS.
[11:45] TODAY'S UH SEPTEMBER 20TH, 2026
[11:48] AND THE EXACT TIME IS 10:04
[11:50] A.M..
[11:51] UH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER
[11:53] TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025
[11:55] MODIFYING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS
[11:57] OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND UH,
[12:00] RELIVING OR RELIEVING UH,
[12:02] SORRY PUBLIC BODIES OF CERTAIN
[12:04] REQUIREMENTS INCLUDING THE
[12:05] REQUIREMENT THAT PUBLIC BODIES
[12:07] CONDUCT UH, MEETINGS IN A
[12:09] PUBLIC PLACE THAT'S OPEN AND
[12:11] PHYSICALLY ACCESSIBLE TO THE
[12:12] PUBLIC.
[12:13] THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE
[12:14] CONDUCTING THIS HEARING
[12:15] VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.
[12:16] THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED
[12:18] .
[12:18] IT'S ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED
[12:20] AT BOSTON.GOV/CITY COUNCIL TV
[12:23] AND BROADCAST ON XFINITY
[12:24] CHANNEL EIGHT, RCN CHANNEL 82,
[12:27] IN FAVOR OF CHANNEL 964.
[12:29] UH WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT
[12:31] TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT UH
[12:34] CCW UM@BOSTON.GOV IT WILL BE
[12:37] MADE A PART OF THE RECORD AND
[12:38] AVAILABLE TO ALL COUNCILORS.
[12:40] PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN
[12:42] AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.
[12:43] INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON
[12:45] IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY'VE
[12:46] SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE TWO
[12:47] MINUTES TO TESTIFY IF YOU WISH
[12:49] TO SIGN UP FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY
[12:50] YOU'VE NOT DONE SO ALREADY,
[12:52] PLEASE EMAIL OUR CENTRAL STAFF
[12:54] LIAISON KARISHMA ON.
[12:55] YEAH.
[12:57] KKR.
[13:02] MQ HAND@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE ZOOM
[13:03] LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE
[13:04] ADDED TO THE LIST.
[13:06] UH OKAY SO TODAY'S HEARING IS
[13:09] ON PSYCH UH 1234 DOCKETS.
[13:13] UH I'M GOING TO READ THEM OUT
[13:15] UM UH SO DOCKET NUMBER 1671 IS
[13:19] A MESSAGE IN ORDER TO REDUCE
[13:21] THE F Y 27 APPROPRIATION YOU'RE
[13:24] JUST GOING TO ON SECOND AND FY
[13:27] 27 APPROPRIATION FOR THE
[13:30] RESERVE, UH, FOR COLLECTIVE
[13:32] BARGAINING BY $1,951,894 TO
[13:37] PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON
[13:39] POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR THE UH
[13:41] FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES
[13:44] CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
[13:45] BARGAINING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN
[13:46] THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE
[13:48] BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES
[13:50] BENEVOLENT SOCIETY DOCKET
[13:52] NUMBER 1672 MESSAGE IN ORDER
[13:55] FOR THE BOSTON POLICE
[13:56] DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,
[13:58] IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,951,894 TO
[14:04] COVER THE FISCAL YEAR 27 COST
[14:06] ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THE
[14:08] COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT
[14:10] BETWEEN THE CITY OF BOSTON AND
[14:12] THE BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES
[14:14] BENEVOLENT SOCIETY.
[14:15] THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE
[14:18] IT SAYS HERE JULY 1ST 2025 TO
[14:23] JUNE 30TH 2026.
[14:25] UH MAYBE UH WE HAVE TO CHANGE
[14:27] THAT AMEND THAT.
[14:28] THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE
[14:30] CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
[14:33] INCREASE OF 2% IN JULY 2025
[14:36] AGAIN, UH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT
[14:38] THE YEAR.
[14:38] THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS AN
[14:40] UPDATE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY
[14:42] AND AMENDED LANGUAGE AROUND
[14:43] SICK TIME BUYBACK AT RETIREMENT
[14:46] AS ORIGINALLY PRESENTED TO YOU
[14:48] THE FISCAL YEAR 27 UH BUDGET
[14:51] REQUEST INCLUDED A RESERVE FOR
[14:53] COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, A
[14:55] SEPARATE APPROPRIATION TO FUND
[14:57] PROJECTED COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
[14:59] INCREASES.
[14:59] A SEPARATE ORDER HAS BEEN FILED
[15:01] TO REDUCE THE APPROPRIATION BY
[15:07] $1,951,894.
[15:07] OKAY, I THINK I GET DOCKET
[15:09] NUMBER 1673 MESSAGE IN ORDER TO
[15:12] REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR 27
[15:14] APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE
[15:15] FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY
[15:20] $1,366,093 TO PROVIDE FUNDING
[15:23] FOR THE BOSTON POLICE
[15:24] DEPARTMENT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR
[15:26] 27 INCREASES CONTAINED WITHIN
[15:28] THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
[15:29] AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE CITY
[15:30] OF BOSTON AND THE BOSTON POLICE
[15:32] UH DETECTIVE BENEVOLENT SOCIETY
[15:34] SUPERIOR OFFICERS UNIT AND UH
[15:37] FINALLY, UH DOCKET NUMBER 1674
[15:39] MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE BOSTON
[15:41] POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL
[15:42] YEAR 27, IN THE AMOUNT
[15:48] OF $1,366,093 TO COVER THE
[15:49] FISCAL YEAR 27 COST ITEMS
[15:51] CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE
[15:53] BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN
[15:54] THE CITY OF BOSTON AND THE
[15:55] BOSTON POLICE DETECTIVES
[15:56] BENEVOLENT SOCIETY SUPERIOR
[15:58] OFFICERS UNIT.
[15:59] THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE
[16:01] JULY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH JUNE
[16:03] 30TH OF 2026.
[16:05] THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE
[16:06] CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE
[16:08] INCREASE OF 2% IN JULY 2025.
[16:12] THE CONTRACT ALSO CONTAINS AN
[16:14] UPDATE TO HAZARDOUS DUTY PAY
[16:16] AND AMENDED LANGUAGE AROUND PAY
[16:18] DETAILS AND SUMMER VACATION
[16:20] SCHEDULES AS ORIGINALLY
[16:22] PRESENTED TO YOU, THE FISCAL
[16:23] YEAR 27 BUDGET REQUEST INCLUDED
[16:26] A RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE
[16:28] BARGAINING UH, A SEPARATE
[16:30] APPROPRIATION TO FUND PROJECTED
[16:31] BARGAINING COLLECTIVE
[16:32] BARGAINING INCREASES A SEPARATE
[16:34] ORDER HAS BEEN FILED TO REDUCE
[16:35] THAT APPROPRIATION BY
[16:40] $1,396,093.
[16:41] THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY
[16:43] MICHELLE WU AND WERE REFERRED
[16:44] TO THE COMMITTEE.
[16:45] ON SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026.
[16:48] UH, FOR MY COLLEAGUES YOU MAY
[16:50] RECALL WE PASSED SIMILAR
[16:51] DOCKETS IN MAY OF THIS YEAR UH
[16:54] FOR FISCAL YEAR 2026.
[16:57] THESE DOCKETS I BELIEVE WOULD
[16:58] JUST EXTEND THOSE UH
[17:01] APPROPRIATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR
[17:03] 2027.
[17:04] BUT WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM
[17:05] JIM WILLIAMSON.
[17:06] UH, TODAY I'M UH JOINED BY MY
[17:09] COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL
[17:11] COUNCILOR FLYNN AND THEN
[17:12] COUNCILOR MURPHY.
[17:14] UH, I UH I'M JUST GOING TO GO
[17:16] TO THE UH, PANELISTS AND THEN
[17:18] WE'LL GO FOR QUESTIONS.
[17:20] UH, WE'VE BEEN JOINED TODAY BY
[17:22] UH, BUDGET DIRECTOR UH, JIM
[17:24] WILLIAMSON.
[17:25] UM, SO UH, WITH THAT I UH I
[17:29] GUESS UM, IF SHE HAD JIM IS
[17:33] HERE WHICH I SEE UH, DO YOU
[17:35] WANT TO JUST EXPLAIN WHAT'S
[17:36] GOING ON AND THEN, UH, UM, YOU
[17:39] KNOW, IF MY MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
[17:41] ANY QUESTIONS I SEE
[17:42] COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[17:42] YOU GOT YOUR HAND UP?
[17:43] YEAH.
[17:44] ONE QUICK QUESTION,
[17:45] MR CHAIR.
[17:45] WITH THE, UM.
[17:47] REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
[17:48] RESPECTIVE.
[17:48] RESPECTIVE UNIONS, UM.
[17:51] LEADERSHIP PLANNING TO ATTEND.
[17:53] THEY ARE NOT BECAUSE WE WE THIS
[17:57] IS I BELIEVE AND MR WILLIAMSON,
[17:59] THE BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON
[18:00] IS GOING TO EXPLAIN WE HAD A
[18:02] HEARING IN MAY ON THE CONTRACT
[18:04] ON A NEW CONTRACT AND I I'M I'M
[18:07] HAPPY TO GO OVER UH THE
[18:10] PROVISIONS THE NEW PROVISIONS
[18:11] IN THE CONTRACT THAT WE
[18:12] COVERED IN MAY AND THAT WE
[18:13] VOTED ON IN MAY.
[18:14] UH, SO THIS IS REALLY I BELIEVE
[18:17] WE'RE JUST GOING INTO THE NEXT
[18:19] FISCAL YEAR TO COVER THE WAGE
[18:20] INCREASES THAT WERE COVERED BY
[18:21] THAT CONTRACT.
[18:23] SO I THINK WE'RE WE'RE ONLY
[18:24] EXPECTING BUDGET DIRECTOR
[18:25] WILLIAMSON TODAY.
[18:26] I GUESS IF THERE'S OTHER
[18:27] QUESTIONS I CAN RELAY THEM.
[18:29] UH, YOU CAN REVIEW THEM THROUGH
[18:31] THE CHAIR AND UH, WE CAN GET
[18:33] OTHER THINGS ANSWERED.
[18:34] BUT I THINK JUST TO EXPLAIN
[18:36] WHAT IS HAPPENING, WE HAD, UH,
[18:38] JIM WILLIAMSON HERE AND UH, FOR
[18:41] QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACT
[18:42] ITSELF.
[18:43] I THINK WE COVERED ALL THAT
[18:44] BACK IN MAY.
[18:45] YEAH.
[18:46] I REMEMBER BEING ON THAT.
[18:47] YEAH, RIGHT.
[18:48] I DON'T I DON'T MISS ANY
[18:49] OF THESE HEARINGS BUT I, UM I
[18:52] WANT TO DO MY DUE DILIGENCE
[18:53] BEFORE I DO VOTE.
[18:55] OKAY.
[18:56] YEAH.
[18:56] THANK YOU.
[18:56] YEAH.
[18:57] NO, IT'S A IT'S A BIT UNUSUAL.
[18:59] UH, AND SO I'VE GONE OVER THE
[19:00] COMMITTEE REPORT, UM, LET'S SEE
[19:03] WHICH I'VE GOT RIGHT HERE JUST
[19:05] TO REFRESH FOLKS MEMORIES, YOU
[19:07] KNOW, AS A NEW CONTRACT, UH,
[19:09] REACHED UH TO SORT OF EXTEND
[19:11] CERTAIN BENEFITS THAT WERE IN
[19:13] THE PATROL OFFICERS CONTRACT TO
[19:14] THE TO THE DETECTIVES
[19:16] BENEVOLENT SOCIETY AND THE
[19:18] DETECTIVES BENEVOLENT SOCIETY
[19:20] SUPERIOR OFFICERS AND THEN I'LL
[19:21] JUST RUN THROUGH THE BULLET
[19:22] POINTS.
[19:23] WELL.
[19:23] LET ME JUST ASK.
[19:24] WHERE THEY WERE.
[19:26] THEY INVITED.
[19:28] UH THEY WERE NOT INVITE WE HAD
[19:30] A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THIS
[19:31] HEARING SHOULD BE AND BECAUSE
[19:34] WE HAD HAD SO NO I DID NOT
[19:36] INVITE THEM.
[19:37] I DO THINK I DO THINK AN
[19:40] INVITATION.
[19:41] SHOULD BE.
[19:41] EXTENDED WHETHER UM.
[19:44] AT LEAST GIVE THEM THE
[19:45] OPPORTUNITY TO.
[19:48] UM BE INVITED TO BE.
[19:49] INCLUDED BECAUSE.
[19:50] THERE MIGHT.
[19:50] BE SOME ISSUES.
[19:51] THAT THEY HIGHLIGHT THAT MIGHT
[19:54] HELP US DO OUR JOB BETTER.
[19:56] CERTAINLY THE CITY OF BOSTON IS
[19:58] GOING TO PRESENT THEIR
[20:02] RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT.
[20:02] I DO LIKE TO GET BOTH SIDES
[20:04] OF THE STORY.
[20:05] UM, I REALLY.
[20:07] WISH THE.
[20:09] UNION LEADERSHIP WERE INVITED
[20:10] AND IF THEY DECLINED THEN THEY
[20:12] DECLINED.
[20:12] BUT I I DO.
[20:13] THINK WE WE WE.
[20:15] OWE IT TO THEM TO.
[20:17] PAY BECAUSE OF THEIR
[20:19] PROFESSIONALISM AND THE WORK
[20:19] THEY DO.
[20:20] TO AT.
[20:21] LEAST INVITE THEM TO THE
[20:22] MEETING.
[20:22] OKAY.
[20:23] SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[20:24] LET'S JUST WELL WE'LL LET'S
[20:26] PROCEED UH, WITH BUDGET
[20:27] DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON.
[20:29] YEAH BUT BETTER BETTER IN
[20:30] ADDITION TO THAT THAT'S AN A
[20:32] THAT'S AN.
[20:32] IMPORTANT THAT'S AN.
[20:33] IMPORTANT MATTER AND WHAT
[20:34] YOU'RE JUST GLOSSING OVER IT I.
[20:36] DO I DO THINK IT'S AN ISSUE
[20:37] THAT WE.
[20:38] CAN AT LEAST.
[20:39] ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE.
[20:41] UNIONS SHOULD BE.
[20:42] PART OF THE DISCUSSION.
[20:43] THAT'S WHAT I BELIEVE IN.
[20:44] YEAH I HEAR YOU BUT LET'S JUST
[20:45] LET'S LET'S HEAR IT,
[20:47] MR DIRECTOR AND.
[20:48] QUICK QUESTION JUST I AND
[20:50] I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING
[20:51] FROM JIM BUT IS IT BOTH I'M
[20:54] READING THE INVITATION HERE.
[20:56] IS IT BOTH THE BENEVOLENT
[20:58] DETECTIVES AND THE SUPERIOR
[21:00] OFFICES OR JUST THE BENEVOLENT
[21:02] DETECTIVES?
[21:03] IT'S THE UH THIS I'M SORRY.
[21:06] LET ME JUST UM.
[21:09] THEN IT SAYS HERE WE HAVE THAT
[21:11] IT'S ALSO AND SO.
[21:13] WAS THE BENEVOLENT DETECTIVES
[21:14] AND THEN THE BENEVOLENT
[21:16] DETECTIVE SUPERIOR OFFICER.
[21:18] SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS THE OFFICERS
[21:19] .
[21:19] IT'S BOTH.
[21:20] YES.
[21:20] RIGHT.
[21:21] SO BECAUSE THERE'S THREE POLICE
[21:22] UNION SO THIS COVERS BOTH NOT
[21:26] BPP BUT THE OTHER TWO.
[21:28] CORRECT OKAY JUST CHECK.
[21:30] DIDN'T WORK.
[21:31] OKAY.
[21:32] UM SO AGAIN UH WE CAN LET'S
[21:37] CIRCLE BACK TO
[21:39] COUNCILOR FLYNN'S, UH, CONCERNS
[21:41] UH, BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE
[21:43] HEARING.
[21:44] UH, BUT SO I'M GOING TO PASS
[21:46] THIS ON.
[21:46] I SEE YOUR HAND IS UP AGAIN.
[21:49] COUNCILOR MURPHY YOU JUST SAW,
[21:50] RIGHT?
[21:50] NO, JUST TAKING IT DOWN.
[21:52] NO.
[21:53] OKAY, OKAY.
[21:53] I DON'T KNOW IF IT COULD HAVE
[21:54] GONE BACK.
[21:55] UH, OKAY.
[21:56] UH, DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON, DO YOU
[21:58] WANT TO EXPLAIN WHAT'S GOING ON
[22:00] HERE?
[22:00] VERY SURE.
[22:01] SO THANK YOU.
[22:02] CHAIR WEBER AND COUNCILORS, UH,
[22:04] MURPHY AND FLYNN.
[22:05] UH, MY NAME IS JIM WILLIAMSON.
[22:08] I'M A BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE AT
[22:09] THE CITY OF BOSTON.
[22:09] AND I APPRECIATE THIS
[22:11] OPPORTUNITY TO, UH, PROVIDE
[22:12] MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE,
[22:14] UH, SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGETS AND
[22:15] THEIR IMPACT ON ON THE CITY'S
[22:17] BUDGET.
[22:17] UH, I'M HERE TO DISCUSS THE
[22:19] FOUR APPROPRIATION WHEREAS
[22:20] BEFORE YOU, UH, THE IMPACT
[22:22] OF THE 427 ANNUAL OPERATING
[22:24] BUDGET AND TO FORMALLY REQUEST
[22:26] ,UH, FAVORABLE CONSIDERATION
[22:28] OR RECOMMENDATION FOR THE NEXT
[22:29] COUNCIL MEETING, UH, AS OUR
[22:32] COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, IF THERE'S
[22:33] ADDITIONAL SORT OF, UH, UNION
[22:36] CONTRACT LANGUAGE SPECIFIC
[22:38] QUESTIONS AND OR UH
[22:40] DEPARTMENTAL OPERATION
[22:41] QUESTIONS WERE HAPPY TO TO UH
[22:43] REACH OUT AND GET THOSE
[22:44] RESPONDED TO UM SO UH THIS UH I
[22:49] THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION
[22:50] ABOUT THE TERM OF THE CONTRACT.
[22:50] THE CONTRACT ACTUALLY THIS
[22:52] CONTRACT IS AN EXPIRED VERSION
[22:53] OF A CONTRACT AND IT'S A SIMPLE
[22:56] TRANSACTION.
[22:56] UH, SO IN UH IN MAY, UH, SOME
[23:00] COUNCIL PASSED AND APPROVED A
[23:02] SUPPLEMENTAL BUDGET FOR THAT
[23:03] ONE YEAR CONTRACT THAT EXPIRED,
[23:05] UH, LAST JUNE, UM, IN ORDER TO
[23:08] KEEP IT UH, CONSISTENT WITH UH
[23:10] ,UH, PATROL OFFICERS, UH,
[23:12] CONTRACT UM AND THEN UH, SO, UH
[23:16] ,THIS THIS TRANSACTION IS
[23:18] REALLY JUST TO MOVE UH, THE
[23:20] BUDGETARY DOLLARS FROM THE 27
[23:21] RESERVE INTO UH, THE 27 BUDGET
[23:24] FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
[23:25] UM, AND IT'S BECAUSE UH, IT UH
[23:29] ,HAPPENED POST UH THE
[23:31] RECOMMENDED BUDGET UH, IN APRIL
[23:32] AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE
[23:34] TRANSACTING IT AT THIS POINT.
[23:36] UH, BUT THE THE CONTRACT IS IS
[23:39] UH UM BEEN IMPLEMENTED UH, THE
[23:42] UM THE DETECTIVES HAVE ALREADY
[23:43] RECEIVED THEIR WAGES, YOU KNOW
[23:45] ,WAGE CHANGES.
[23:46] UH, AND ACTUALLY THE TERM
[23:48] OF THE CONTRACT IS EXPIRED, SO.
[23:52] OKAY.
[23:53] AND THAT EXPLAINS IT JUST
[23:54] BEFORE I GO TO COUNCILOR FLYNN,
[23:56] THAT EXPLAINS WHY IT'S THE
[23:57] SAME.
[23:57] IS IT THE SAME NUMBER.
[23:59] AS IT'S IDENTICAL?
[24:01] IDENTICAL AMOUNTS?
[24:02] UM, AS THE ONES THAT WERE
[24:04] APPROVED IN MAY.
[24:05] OKAY.
[24:06] AND I I'M BLANKING ON THE
[24:08] LEGAL DOCTRINE BUT I BELIEVE
[24:09] WHEN YOU HAVE A COLLECTIVE
[24:10] BARGAINING AGREEMENT.
[24:11] AND.
[24:11] IT.
[24:12] EXPIRES YOU YOU DON'T LIKE JUST
[24:14] NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT YOU
[24:16] MAINTAIN THE EXISTING AGREEMENT
[24:18] GOING FORWARD RATHER THAN
[24:20] HAVING EVERYONE JUST, YOU KNOW
[24:22] ,BE UP IN THE AIR.
[24:23] SO UH, THAT'S THAT IS THAT
[24:25] THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
[24:26] THE CONTRACTS EXPIRED.
[24:27] EXPIRED BUT THEY STILL HAVE
[24:28] THOSE WAGE PROVISIONS THAT WERE
[24:30] APPROVED AND THE BUDGET NEEDS
[24:31] TO BE ADJUSTED TO ACCOMMODATE
[24:33] FOR THAT INCREASED COSTS.
[24:35] OKAY.
[24:36] UM OKAY.
[24:37] UH I'M JUST I'M GOING TO GO TO
[24:39] MY COLLEAGUES AND THEN IF I
[24:40] HAVE QUESTIONS AT THE END UH, I
[24:43] GUESS COUNCILOR FLYNN UH, I HAD
[24:47] IT.
[24:48] DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR
[24:49] BUDGET DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON?
[24:50] I UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR CONCERN
[24:52] AND WE WILL WE'LL TALK ABOUT
[24:53] THAT ON THE RECORD BEFORE WE
[24:56] CLOSE THE HEARING.
[24:57] BUT, UM, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS
[24:59] FOR.
[24:59] OKAY, DIRECTOR?
[25:01] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[25:03] THANK YOU.
[25:03] JIM.
[25:04] JIM, WHAT IS THE, UM.
[25:07] ANY ANY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE AS IT
[25:09] RELATES TO.
[25:13] THE THE ONGOING UM.
[25:17] DEBATE OR CHALLENGE AS IT
[25:19] RELATES TO.
[25:19] THE THE NUMBER OF POLICE
[25:23] OFFICERS WE HAVE IN THE CITY
[25:25] AND THE FREQUENCY OF 16 HOUR
[25:28] WORK WORKDAYS, UM, AND
[25:31] OVERSTAFFED OFFICES UM
[25:35] DANGEROUSLY UM UNDERSTAFFED.
[25:38] OVERWORKED UM LIMITED NUMBER
[25:40] OF POLICE OFFICERS.
[25:42] DOES THE LANGUAGE ADDRESS ANY
[25:44] OF THAT?
[25:46] UH UH I UH I WOULD DEFER TO UH,
[25:48] LABOR RELATIONS BUT I DO NOT
[25:50] BELIEVE THE CONTRACT SPEAKS TO
[25:51] THE SPECIFIC NUMBER OF OFFICERS
[25:54] .
[25:58] IT JUST ACKNOWLEDGES I THINK IN
[26:00] A SUMMARY IT ACKNOWLEDGES HOW
[26:01] MANY UM, OFFICERS WERE UH, WERE
[26:05] IN THAT ROLE.
[26:07] SO I THINK UH, FOR THE UM.
[26:12] THE UH, DETECTIVES AS 278
[26:15] MEMBERS UH, AND FOR THE
[26:18] SUPERIOR DETECTIVES IT'S 127
[26:21] MEMBERS.
[26:23] SO I, I HEARD FROM.
[26:25] DETECTIVES ON THE ON THE
[26:26] STREET.
[26:26] YEAH.
[26:27] AND THEY ARE TELLING ME THEY
[26:29] HAVE THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
[26:32] DETECTIVES.
[26:33] TO DO.
[26:33] THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK AND
[26:36] THEY'RE SHORT STAFFED.
[26:38] HOW WILL WE ADDRESS THE MAXIMUM
[26:41] GANG?
[26:41] YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I DO
[26:43] REMEMBER SORT OF UM, UH, POLICE
[26:46] REPRESENTATIVES TALKING ABOUT
[26:47] THAT DYNAMIC BECAUSE WHAT WHAT
[26:49] WHEN YOU DON'T COME FROM THE
[26:51] OUTSIDE AND BECOME A DETECTIVE,
[26:53] IT'S A PROMOTIONAL OPPORTUNITY
[26:54] WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT.
[26:55] UH, SO I THINK THEY TRY TO, UM
[26:59] ,WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH
[27:01] EACH OTHER TO MAKE SURE THAT
[27:02] THEY'RE NOT DRAWING TOO MANY
[27:04] FROM THE REGULAR PATROL STAFF
[27:07] OR OR SUPERIOR OFFICER STAFF,
[27:09] UH, THAT ARE INVOLVED AND YOU
[27:11] KNOW, UH, THE DISTRICT PATROL
[27:12] FORCE UH, YOU KNOW, IN UH SO I
[27:17] THINK THIS UH IS AN ONGOING
[27:18] CONVERSATION AND YOU KNOW,
[27:20] WORKING RELATIONSHIP ON THAT
[27:21] PART.
[27:22] YEAH.
[27:23] BUT I PREFER I PREFER THE
[27:24] POLICE ACTUALLY ABOUT THE.
[27:26] WELL, THAT'S THAT'S WHY THAT'S
[27:28] WHY THAT'S WHY I AND THAT'S WHY
[27:30] I BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT TO
[27:31] HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE
[27:33] POLICE HERE.
[27:35] UM, SO SO SO WE SO THEY CAN
[27:37] ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
[27:39] UM.
[27:41] JIM, HOW.
[27:42] MANY POLICE OFFICERS DO WE
[27:43] HAVE IN THE CITY?
[27:44] YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S IT'S OVER,
[27:47] UH, 2000 BUT I'D HAVE TO GET
[27:49] YOU A SPECIFIC NUMBER.
[27:50] UH, WE DO GET REPORTS FROM THE
[27:52] POLICE DEPARTMENT.
[27:53] UH, I LOOKED AT IT RECENTLY.
[27:55] BUT WHAT'S.
[27:56] WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE MOST UP?
[27:57] WHAT'S THE MOST UPDATED NUMBER
[27:58] ?
[27:59] UH, I'D HAVE TO GET THROUGH
[28:01] THAT.
[28:01] YOU ALSO HAVE.
[28:03] UM.
[28:04] I THINK WE USE WE WE, UM,
[28:07] IDENTIFY MOST SWORN.
[28:08] SO IT INCLUDES THE FOUR POLICE
[28:10] UNIONS.
[28:11] YEAH.
[28:11] RIGHT.
[28:11] YEAH, YEAH.
[28:12] SWORN OFFICERS WHICH WOULD BE.
[28:15] UM THE THE THE.
[28:16] THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE
[28:18] THAT ARE BASICALLY ON THE
[28:21] STREET AND THE COMMAND STAFF I
[28:23] GUESS.
[28:23] BUT UM, CAN.
[28:25] CAN WE GET THAT NUMBER BEFORE
[28:27] WE VOTE ON THIS?
[28:28] SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
[28:30] UM.
[28:34] WHAT ARE WE DOING JIM.
[28:36] ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS
[28:38] OF POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR
[28:40] FAMILIES KNOWING KNOWING THAT
[28:42] POLICE OFFICERS UH,
[28:44] CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16 HOURS A
[28:46] DAY HOW HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING
[28:49] THEM.
[28:49] WITH THE.
[28:50] CRITICAL TIME OFF?
[28:51] BUT HOW ARE WE SUPPORTING THEM.
[28:53] WITH WORK.
[28:54] LIFE BALANCE EVEN AS WE CUT THE
[28:57] HEALTH AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS
[28:58] FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT?
[29:02] WELL, I YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE
[29:04] IS UH UM THE BUDGET DOES
[29:06] INCLUDE RESOURCES FOR HEALTH
[29:07] AND WELLNESS PROGRAMS AT THE
[29:09] POLICE DEPARTMENT.
[29:09] UH, THERE'S BEEN UH, INVEST UH
[29:12] INVESTMENTS IN THE LAST YEARS
[29:14] UH, IN THEIR OCCUPATIONAL
[29:16] HEALTH, YOU KNOW, RESOURCES TO
[29:18] SORT OF, UH, HELP FACILITATE
[29:20] OFFICERS WHO ARE UH, UH,
[29:22] MEDICALLY INCAPACITATED TO
[29:24] LIKE, UH, RETURN BACK TO THE
[29:26] WORKFORCE.
[29:26] SO I THINK THEY'VE BEEN VERY
[29:28] SUCCESSFUL ON THAT AT.
[29:28] THE GYM.
[29:29] I DO BELIEVE I DO.
[29:30] BELIEVE IN THE BUT THAT THAT
[29:32] HAS BEEN CUT THOUGH, HASN'T IT?
[29:34] THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS ASPECT
[29:35] OF THE POLICE?
[29:38] UH, NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF BUT I
[29:40] CAN CERTAINLY FOLLOW UP ON
[29:41] THAT.
[29:42] I BELIEVE FOR THE POLICE AND
[29:43] FIRE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS UM
[29:46] TYPE PROGRAMS HAVE BEEN HAVE
[29:48] BEEN CUT.
[29:50] UM.
[29:52] SO SO.
[29:52] WHAT ARE WE.
[29:53] DOING TO.
[29:53] TO ENSURE.
[29:54] THAT POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE
[29:56] WORKING 16 HOURS A DAY
[29:58] CONSISTENTLY HAVE THE RIGHT
[30:00] HAVE THE RIGHT TIME OFF AND
[30:02] SLEEP SO THAT THEY CAN BE
[30:04] EFFECTIVE ON THEIR JOB?
[30:08] I KNOW UH JUST FROM HEARING UH
[30:10] TESTIMONY IN PAST THERE ARE
[30:11] STRICT RULES AROUND THE NUMBER
[30:13] OF HOURS THAT OFFICERS ARE UM
[30:16] UH, ARE ELIGIBLE TO WORK AND
[30:18] THEY DO UM THEY DO TRACK THAT
[30:22] STAY ON TOP OF THAT.
[30:23] UM, BUT THE UH BUT IT'S NOT.
[30:27] ALL BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT.
[30:28] OFFICERS ARE TELLING ME.
[30:29] OFFICERS ARE TELLING ME THAT
[30:30] THE CONSISTENTLY WORKING 16
[30:32] HOUR DAYS AND AND THEN THE THE
[30:35] GOING HOME AND THE THEY'RE
[30:37] TRYING TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT
[30:39] OF TIME WITH THEIR FAMILY THEN
[30:39] THEY'RE BACK TO WORK AGAIN.
[30:41] THEY THEY'RE TELLING ME IT'S
[30:42] IT'S IMPACTING THE HEALTH AND
[30:45] WELLNESS OF OFFICERS AND ALSO
[30:47] WORK LIFE BALANCE.
[30:49] THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ISSUES I
[30:50] JUST CAN'T IGNORE.
[30:53] UM, THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
[30:54] TO ME.
[30:58] UH, YEAH.
[30:58] COUNCILOR FLYNN SORRY, I JUST I
[31:00] WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU SIX
[31:01] MINUTES.
[31:01] YOU GOT ANOTHER MINUTE LEFT?
[31:03] UH, AND THEN I WILL WE'LL ALSO
[31:04] BE JOINED BY
[31:05] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
[31:06] YEAH, BUT BUT MR CHAIR, THESE
[31:08] ARE THESE ARE ISSUES.
[31:09] THAT.
[31:10] ARE THESE ARE ISSUES THAT WE
[31:11] NEED TO HAVE A.
[31:12] SERIOUS DISCUSSION ABOUT AND
[31:14] WE'RE NOT.
[31:15] DOING THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING A
[31:17] CONVERSATION ABOUT WORK LIFE
[31:19] BALANCE FOR POLICE OFFICERS,
[31:20] HOW WE'RE SUPPORTING POLICE
[31:22] OFFICERS.
[31:23] UM, JUST BECAUSE WE.
[31:25] IGNORE A SUBJECT DOESN'T MEAN
[31:26] THE SUBJECT GOES AWAY.
[31:30] SO MY MY JOB MY.
[31:32] RESPONSIBILITY IS.
[31:33] TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES.
[31:34] THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE PUT ME IN
[31:35] OFFICE FOR TO ASK ASK THE TOUGH
[31:37] QUESTIONS AND AND MAKE CHANGES.
[31:41] SO I'M.
[31:42] STILL.
[31:42] NOT CONFIDENT FROM THIS
[31:45] CONVERSATION THAT WE HAVE A
[31:46] PLAN TO ADDRESS HEALTH AND
[31:48] WELLNESS PROGRAMS, THAT WE HAVE
[31:50] A PLAN TO ADDRESS 16 HOUR WORK
[31:52] DAYS.
[31:53] AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO
[31:55] POLICE OFFICERS THAT WE'RE
[31:57] PUTTING THEM IN THIS PARTICULAR
[31:59] SITUATION WORKING 16 HOURS A
[32:02] DAY AND THEN KNOWING THAT THAT.
[32:04] WHEN WHEN AN ISSUE.
[32:06] DOES COME COME UP.
[32:07] THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE.
[32:09] SUPPORTED AT BOSTON CITY HALL
[32:10] WE ALL KNOW THAT.
[32:12] THIS THAT THIS THIS CITY
[32:14] COUNCIL IS DONE FOR THE FOR THE
[32:15] MOST PART DON'T RESPECT THE
[32:16] WORK THE POLICE OFFICERS.
[32:18] DO SO I DO WE I DO THINK WE WE
[32:21] NEED TO HAVE A.
[32:22] SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT IT.
[32:23] I RESPECT THE WORK JIM IS DOING
[32:25] BUT I WISH I COULD GET ANSWERS
[32:28] TO THIS.
[32:29] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[32:29] OKAY.
[32:30] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[32:32] I JUST JUST MAYBE TO CLARIFY A
[32:34] LITTLE BIT ABOUT TODAY'S
[32:36] HEARING.
[32:36] SO, UH BUT DIRECTOR.
[32:38] WILLIAMSON, CAN YOU.
[32:39] JUST EXPLAIN?
[32:40] SO WE VOTED IN MAY TO APPROVE
[32:43] 2% INCREASES THAT WERE, UH, YOU
[32:46] KNOW, TAKEN MONEY OUT OF THE,
[32:47] UH, THE RESERVE.
[32:48] NOW WE'RE VOTING AGAIN.
[32:51] IS THIS ON?
[32:52] IS THIS TO MAINTAIN THAT 2%
[32:54] INCREASE THAT WE VOTED BACK IN
[32:55] MAY, IS THIS AN ADDITIONAL 2%
[32:58] INCREASE?
[32:58] JUST JUST CAN YOU.
[32:59] EXPLAIN THE MATH.
[33:01] COUNCIL I THINK WHAT YOU SAID
[33:02] UH, BEFORE IS EVEN THOUGH THE
[33:04] CONTRACTS EXPIRE, THE THE
[33:06] EXISTING TERMS OF THE CONTRACT
[33:07] CONTINUE AND SO THE THE THE
[33:09] WAGE BENEFITS THAT WERE
[33:10] APPROVED BY COUNCIL IN MAY, UM
[33:13] ARE IN PLACE IN UH THE OFFICE
[33:16] THIS IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT
[33:17] THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S 527
[33:18] BUDGET HAS SUFFICIENT RESOURCES
[33:20] TO COVER THOSE.
[33:21] YEAH, I.
[33:22] UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT THAT
[33:23] DOESN'T MEAN YOU.
[33:23] DON'T HAVE A A.
[33:24] SERIOUS CONVERSATION.
[33:26] MR CHAIR, ABOUT ABOUT HEALTH
[33:28] AND WELLNESS.
[33:29] OF POLICE OFFICERS.
[33:30] YOU STILL ADDRESS THE ISSUE
[33:32] EVEN.
[33:33] THOUGH WE HAD A CONVERSATION
[33:34] IN MAY, IT'S.
[33:35] EVEN MORE.
[33:35] IMPORTANT NOW TO HAVE THAT
[33:37] CONVERSATION TO LEARN ABOUT.
[33:39] WHAT WHAT TOOK.
[33:40] PLACE IN MAY TO THE PRESENT
[33:42] OF HOW WE'RE.
[33:42] SUPPORTING POLICE OFFICERS.
[33:43] BECAUSE WE.
[33:44] HAD A HEARING.
[33:45] UM, A BUDGET HEARING ON IT SIX
[33:47] MONTHS AGO AND AS IF THAT'S
[33:49] THAT'S THAT'S NECESSARY AND
[33:52] THAT WILL COVER US TODAY.
[33:53] I DON'T I DON'T AGREE WITH
[33:54] THAT.
[33:54] I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A
[33:55] SERIOUS CONVERSATION AND IT
[33:57] DOESN'T SEEM LIKE.
[33:58] YOU WANT.
[33:59] TO ASK THOSE TOUGH
[34:00] QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR.
[34:01] NO.
[34:02] OKAY.
[34:02] WELL, UH, I.
[34:03] YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING A
[34:05] CONVERSATION ABOUT STAFFING AT
[34:08] THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND UH,
[34:11] YOU KNOW, ISSUES OF OF OF HOW
[34:13] OUR POLICE OFFICERS ARE DOING
[34:16] THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
[34:17] I JUST I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE
[34:19] SUBJECT OF TODAY'S MEETING,
[34:20] BUT.
[34:21] MR CHAIR.
[34:21] IT'S.
[34:22] NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
[34:23] IT'S NOT GOING TO GET
[34:24] SCHEDULED.
[34:25] THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING THESE.
[34:26] QUESTIONS BECAUSE UM, OUR
[34:28] COLLEAGUES DON'T WANT TO HAVE
[34:29] A.
[34:30] SERIOUS CONVERSATION ABOUT
[34:31] WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE POLICE
[34:33] DEPARTMENT.
[34:33] SO I HAVE TO TAKE THE
[34:34] OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS
[34:37] AND GET IT ON THE RECORD THAT
[34:38] I'M NOT HAPPY.
[34:39] WITH THE WAY WE'RE WAITING.
[34:40] POLICE OFFICERS.
[34:41] WE'RE TREATING THEM WITH
[34:42] DISRESPECT, MISTER.
[34:43] CHAIR, AND PEOPLE REMAIN
[34:44] SILENT.
[34:45] OKAY.
[34:46] NOTED COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[34:48] COUNCILOR MURPHY, I'M GOING TO
[34:50] GIVE YOU, UH, SIX MINUTES.
[34:52] THANK YOU.
[34:52] COME FIRST.
[34:54] JUST WANT TO THANK ALL OF OUR
[34:56] FIRST RESPONDERS, OUR POLICE
[34:57] OFFICERS.
[34:58] WE HAVE BEEN PATTING OURSELVES
[35:00] ON THE BACK FOR HAVING SUCH A
[35:02] SAFE AND CROWDED, FUN SUMMER.
[35:05] BUT IT DOES NOT GO UNNOTICED BY
[35:07] ME THAT IT WAS BECAUSE OUR
[35:08] FIRST RESPONDERS STEPPED UP AND
[35:10] WERE AT ALL OF THE EVENTS
[35:11] ACROSS THE CITY AND WORKING A
[35:13] LOT OF OVERTIME TO MAKE SURE
[35:15] THAT WE IMPLEMENTED THE PLANS
[35:18] THAT THEY WERE EXPECTED TO
[35:20] FOLLOW THROUGH ON.
[35:20] SO THANK YOU TO THAT.
[35:22] I ALSO WANT TO ASK THANK YOU
[35:24] FOR BEING HERE, JIM.
[35:25] BUT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A
[35:28] CONTRACT IS LABOR RELATIONS ON
[35:29] THIS HEARING OR WERE THEY
[35:30] INVITED?
[35:35] I BELIEVE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR
[35:36] THE FOR ME.
[35:38] UH SO UH.
[35:39] WHOEVER CAN ANSWER THAT.
[35:40] YEAH NO I BE BECAUSE WE'RE
[35:42] COVERING THE SAME UH, SUBJECT
[35:45] MATTER THAT WE COVERED IN MAY.
[35:47] UH.
[35:48] I DO FEEL THOSE THINGS.
[35:49] COME UP BECAUSE I HAVE SOME
[35:50] SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT MAY BE
[35:51] NEW INFORMATION FROM THE LAST
[35:53] TIME AND IF WE'RE GOING TO VOTE
[35:56] TO KEEP THIS CONTRACT GOING
[35:57] BECAUSE WE COULD VOTE NO AND
[36:01] ASK FOR MORE IF NEEDED.
[36:02] SO I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THAT'S
[36:05] NECESSARY AND I DO WANT TO
[36:06] THANK MAYBE JEAN IS ON BUT I DO
[36:08] KNOW THAT PRESIDENT GRIFFIN
[36:10] FROM THE UM DETECTIVES UNION IS
[36:13] ON.
[36:13] HE'S NOT A PANELIST NOW, BUT HE
[36:15] DID HOP ON TO LISTEN.
[36:16] HE WAS NOT AWARE OF THIS
[36:17] MEETING.
[36:18] SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[36:19] UM, CURRENTLY WE'RE BUDGETED
[36:22] FOR 283 DETECTIVES AND I
[36:27] BELIEVE WE ONLY HAVE 238.
[36:29] SO WE'RE SHORT ABOUT 45
[36:31] DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW AND
[36:33] DETECTIVES JIM I'M NOT SURE IF
[36:34] YOU KNOW THIS BUT IF YOU CAN
[36:35] HELP ANSWER THIS OUR CIVIL
[36:37] SERVICE PATROL OFFICERS AND
[36:38] THEY CAN SUPPLEMENT THE POLICE
[36:40] FORCE AND THAT WE ALSO HAD BEEN
[36:45] TOLD AND THE DETECTIVES HAVE
[36:47] BEEN TOLD THAT WE WERE GOING TO
[36:49] HAVE A CLASS OF 25 GOING IN THE
[36:51] ACADEMY THIS MONTH AND THIS
[36:52] MONTH IS ALMOST OVER.
[36:54] DO WE KNOW ONE THAT CLASS
[36:55] OF NEW DETECTIVES WILL BE
[36:57] TRAINED BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE
[36:59] WE'VE DELAYED IT AND WE KNOW
[37:01] WE'RE ALREADY SHORT 45
[37:03] DETECTIVES.
[37:04] I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO, UH,
[37:06] COUNSELOR ON THE ON THE UH ON
[37:09] UH WHEN THEY SHOULD HAVE UH,
[37:11] RATE AND UH, PLACE DETECTIVES
[37:13] INTO UH.
[37:15] UM IF WE FOLLOW ANY SORT
[37:17] OF BUDGET SORT OF RECRUIT
[37:18] CLASSES FOR, UH, PATROL
[37:20] OFFICERS AND THINGS.
[37:22] BUT DETECTIVE, SORT OF I'D HAVE
[37:23] TO FIND OUT FROM THE POLICE
[37:25] DEPARTMENT.
[37:26] UM, WE'RE ARE YOU TOLD WHEN
[37:28] CLASSES ARE BUDGETED BUT THEN
[37:30] CANCELED?
[37:31] DO YOU KNOW OR IF.
[37:32] YOU ALSO.
[37:33] TOLD LIKE A CERTAIN NUMBER
[37:35] OF BUDGETED BUT WE'RE UNDER
[37:36] THAT.
[37:37] HOW DO YOU GET NOTIFIED
[37:38] OF THAT?
[37:38] UH, WE WE IT GOES THROUGH THE
[37:41] HIRING PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE
[37:43] SAYING THEY WANT TO PROMOTE A
[37:44] CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DETECTIVES,
[37:46] UM.
[37:47] UH.
[37:48] OF RATE THEM AS DETECTIVES.
[37:49] THERE IS A PROCESS THAT UM I
[37:52] THINK YOU RATE IT AND THEN UH,
[37:54] SIX MONTHS THEN YOU'RE
[37:57] OFFICIALLY LIKE A DETECTIVE
[37:58] AFTER THE TRAINING PERIOD.
[38:00] AND I'M MAKING AN ASSUMPTION I
[38:02] WISH SOMEONE WAS HERE WHO COULD
[38:03] ANSWER ME PROPERLY.
[38:04] BUT I WANT TO PUT THIS QUESTION
[38:06] ON THE RECORD.
[38:07] ARE WE PURPOSELY NOT TRAINING
[38:10] DETECTIVES BECAUSE WE'RE LOW ON
[38:12] PATROL OFFICERS?
[38:14] AND IF PATROL OFFICERS ARE
[38:18] PROMOTED, WHICH THEY SHOULD BE
[38:19] WHEN THEY STUDY AND DESERVE
[38:21] THESE PROMOTIONS BUT THEY'RE
[38:22] CHOOSING NOT TO PROMOTE THEM
[38:24] BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THEM AWAY
[38:25] FROM.
[38:26] BEING SLOTS IN THE DIFFERENT,
[38:28] YOU KNOW, DEPARTMENTS ACROSS
[38:30] THE CITY WHERE WE'RE ALREADY
[38:31] UNDERSTAFFED BY POLICE OFFICERS
[38:33] BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE
[38:34] CONCERNING TO ME MY FOR NOT
[38:36] ALLOWING OFFICERS WHO HAVE
[38:38] STUDIED AND WORKED HARD TO GET
[38:40] PROMOTED BECAUSE WE CAN'T
[38:41] AFFORD TO LOSE THEM AS OFFICERS
[38:45] PATROLMEN.
[38:46] SO WE'RE GOING TO NOT ALLOW
[38:47] THEM TO BE DETECTIVES IN THAT
[38:49] CASE DO YOU KNOW DO WE PRORATE
[38:50] THEIR RAISES IF WE KNOW THAT
[38:53] THEY WERE NOT PROMOTED NOT BY
[38:57] THEIR CHOICE BUT WE JUST
[38:58] COULDN'T AFFORD TO.
[39:00] I'M NOT SURE, COUNSELOR.
[39:02] I DON'T THINK SO.
[39:03] BUT OKAY.
[39:04] AND THIS JUST CONFUSING RIGHT
[39:07] TO KNOW WHAT CAN THE PATROL
[39:09] OFFICERS DO AND IF WE'RE
[39:11] CHOOSING NOT TO PROMOTE THEM
[39:12] THEN THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN.
[39:14] UM, THEN ARE YOU EXPECTING TO
[39:15] VOTE ON THIS WEDNESDAY?
[39:18] UH, I I WOULD LIKE TO, UH YOU
[39:22] KNOW, IF YOU I GUESS IF YOU
[39:24] HAVE QUESTIONS.
[39:25] GET SOME ANSWERS BEFORE THEN
[39:26] ARE YOU CONFIDENT YOU COULD.
[39:27] YEP.
[39:27] I CAN CERTAINLY, UH, REACH OUT
[39:31] TO UH WE CAN.
[39:33] WE CAN TRY TO GET ANSWERS ON
[39:35] THESE ON WEDNESDAY AND, UH, YOU
[39:37] KNOW, IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD
[39:39] JUST TAKE AN EXTRA WEEK, YOU
[39:41] KNOW, TO GET THE ANSWERS I CAN
[39:42] WE CAN VOTE ON IT.
[39:44] I THINK.
[39:44] IT'S UP TO YOU AS THE CHAIR,
[39:46] BUT WOULD YOU ALLOW, UM.
[39:48] THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNION TO
[39:51] ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS?
[39:53] I KNOW HE'S ON THIS HEARING NOW
[39:54] HE'S LISTENING.
[39:56] UH HUH UH I SUPPOSE YEAH, I
[39:59] THINK THAT'S FINE.
[40:00] WHY DON'T WE WHEN WE GET
[40:01] THROUGH THIS, UH UH, WITH
[40:04] MR WILLIAMSON AND WE CAN BRING
[40:05] ON, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PUBLIC
[40:07] TESTIMONY OR WE CAN BRING YOU
[40:08] KNOW.
[40:10] UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S WHAT
[40:11] HAPPENED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
[40:12] ALSO COUNCIL FLYNN REMEMBER
[40:13] WHEN IT WAS LARRY SPOKE AS
[40:16] PUBLIC TESTIMONY, NOT AS A
[40:17] PANELIST BECAUSE HE WASN'T ALSO
[40:19] INVITED TO BE PART OF THE
[40:20] CONVERSATION.
[40:21] I JUST THINK IT WOULD MAKE LIFE
[40:23] EASIER FOR EVERYONE AND SHOW
[40:25] THE RESPECT TO OUR UNION
[40:26] PRESIDENT TO REPRESENT OUR CITY
[40:28] WORKERS.
[40:29] UM THANK YOU.
[40:30] I HAVE NO OTHER QUESTIONS BUT I
[40:31] HOPE WE CAN GET THESE QUESTIONS
[40:33] ANSWERED AND WE CAN RESPECT THE
[40:34] UNION LEADERS WHO SHOW UP EVERY
[40:36] DAY FOR OUR CITY EMPLOYEES.
[40:38] THANK YOU.
[40:39] OKAY.
[40:40] UM.
[40:42] UH, YES.
[40:43] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD OR IS
[40:44] RIGHT.
[40:45] UH.
[40:46] JUST, UH SIX MINUTES.
[40:50] UM UH YES.
[40:52] I'LL, UH I'LL FILL OUT JUST AT
[40:54] THE TOP BUT WE HAD A HEARING IN
[40:56] MAY ON THIS CONTRACT CONTRACTS
[40:58] EXPIRED BUT, UH, TRYING TO
[41:01] PROVIDE THE SAME WAGE INCREASE
[41:03] SO THERE IS UH, DOCKETS TO, UH,
[41:05] PULL MONEY FROM THE RESERVES
[41:07] FOR THE DETECTIVES AND THE
[41:09] DETECTIVE SUPERIOR OFFICERS.
[41:11] UH, AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE'RE
[41:14] SORT OF HAVING A MORE TRUNCATED
[41:17] PROCESS OR AT LEAST THAT'S THAT
[41:19] WAS THE IDEA.
[41:20] UH, AND WE NEED WE'RE GOING TO
[41:21] HEAR FROM, UH.
[41:23] YOU KNOW.
[41:23] SOME UH, UNION, UH,
[41:26] REPRESENTATION BUT SO SIX
[41:28] MINUTES.
[41:30] THANK YOU SIR.
[41:30] UH.
[41:31] FIRST I JUST WANT TO GET
[41:32] EVERYONE WITH SOME NUMBERS.
[41:33] AND I WANT YOU TO MAKE SURE
[41:34] YOU GOT YOUR PEN OUT.
[41:35] UM, AS OF.
[41:37] AUGUST 26TH, 2026.
[41:38] NEXT HAS SAID WE HAVE, UH, FOR
[41:41] PATROLMEN WE HAVE 1423
[41:45] PATROLMAN.
[41:46] AS OF THE END OF AUGUST.
[41:47] ALL RIGHT.
[41:48] UH, WE HAVE 2050 ALL SWORN
[41:53] INCLUDING COMMAND STAFF.
[41:55] UH.
[41:55] SO IF YOU INCLUDE THE
[41:56] COMMAND STAFF.
[41:57] THAT NUMBER JUMPS FROM.
[42:00] UH 1423 TO 2050.
[42:02] AND THEN WE HAVE.
[42:03] 241 UH DETECTIVES.
[42:06] UH, THERE IS NO MINIMUM NUMBER
[42:08] FOR DETECTIVES, BUT WE ARE.
[42:11] SUPER SHORT ON DETECTIVE, SO I
[42:12] KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A MINIMUM
[42:14] BUT 241 UM, AND I THINK AARON,
[42:18] THIS RELATES WHEN YOU GUYS WHEN
[42:19] WE TRY TO DETECT THAT THEY'RE
[42:21] SAYING HEY, WE'RE STRETCHED
[42:22] THIN.
[42:22] UH, 241 BUT NOT NEARLY ENOUGH.
[42:25] SO JUST WANTED TO, UM, GET
[42:27] THOSE NUMBERS OUT THERE AS
[42:28] OF THE END OF AUGUST SO WE AT
[42:30] LEAST CAN WORK OFF SOMETHING
[42:31] AND THAT'S FROM THAT IS FROM HR
[42:34] UM, THAT WE GOT THOSE FOR THE
[42:36] APD.
[42:37] UH, JIM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[42:38] FOR BEING HERE, MAN.
[42:39] UH, I JUST REALLY HAVE A, UM A
[42:42] QUESTION.
[42:43] I KNOW BEN JUST SORT OF GAVE
[42:44] ME THE RUNDOWN.
[42:45] THE CHAIR JUST GAVE ME THE
[42:46] RUNDOWN, BUT, UM, SO IT
[42:48] EXPIRED.
[42:50] WE CONTINUE.
[42:50] OFF THE FORMER CONTRACT.
[42:52] IT IS THIS 2% RAISE.
[42:54] IT'S CONTINUING.
[42:56] SO WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON NOW
[42:57] JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE
[42:58] GOOD.
[42:59] UP UNTIL WHEN?
[43:00] UP UNTIL WE HAVE A NEW
[43:02] CONTRACTOR UP UNTIL THE NEXT
[43:04] FISCAL YEAR.
[43:05] IS THIS JUST FOR THE ENTIRE
[43:07] YEAR.
[43:07] YOU THIS IS TO BASICALLY MAKE
[43:09] UH TO INCREASE THE POLICE
[43:10] DEPARTMENT'S HAVE FOR 27 BUDGET
[43:12] TO MAKE SURE IT HAS THE
[43:14] RESOURCES IN IT UH FOR THAT.
[43:15] CONTRACT AND DURING THAT TIME
[43:18] WE ARE PLANNING TO WE'LL BE
[43:20] NEGOTIATING FOR THE NEXT
[43:22] CONTRACT TO TAKE EFFECT.
[43:23] DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE OF IF
[43:25] THAT WILL END?
[43:26] WILL THAT BE RESOLVED PRIOR TO
[43:29] FY 27 TO TO UH.
[43:32] I'M NOT SURE ON THE TIMING
[43:34] OF THE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS UH.
[43:36] BUT BUT.
[43:37] OKAY BUT SO WE'RE WE'RE
[43:39] BASICALLY DOING THIS TO MAKE
[43:40] SURE THERE'S MONEY FOR JULY 1ST
[43:42] UP UNTIL JULY OR JUNE.
[43:46] 30TH 2027.
[43:46] EXACTLY.
[43:47] OKAY.
[43:49] UM ALL RIGHT.
[43:51] UH YEAH.
[43:51] NO, I THINK THAT'S I DON'T HAVE
[43:53] ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS ON WHAT
[43:54] WAS ASKED.
[43:55] UM, IT'S UH THANK YOU FOR
[43:56] HELPING ME UNDERSTAND SORT
[43:57] OF THE TIMELINE, UH, AND WHAT
[43:59] WE GOT HERE AND I ACTUALLY
[44:01] WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM IF
[44:02] THERE IF THERE IS UNION.
[44:04] LEADERSHIP HERE ON THE CALL FOR
[44:05] TESTIMONY.
[44:06] UM, I THINK IT WOULD JUST BE
[44:07] GREAT TO GET THEIR TAKE, UH,
[44:08] THEIR SIDE OF THINGS.
[44:09] SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR FOR
[44:12] ALLOWING FOR THAT AND I LOOK
[44:13] FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THEM.
[44:14] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[44:15] YEAH.
[44:15] THANK YOU,
[44:16] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
[44:17] UH, I JUST UH SO I GUESS, UH,
[44:20] DIRECTOR WILLIAMSON IT'S A, UH
[44:22] DO YOU KNOW, IN THE NEW
[44:24] CONTRACT, ARE THERE, UM THERE
[44:26] ANY CHANGES FOR HEALTH CARE?
[44:29] UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE HEAR
[44:31] HOW HEALTH CARE COSTS.
[44:32] ARE INCREASING.
[44:36] I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING NOTED
[44:39] ON THE SUMMARIES, COUNSELOR.
[44:41] OKAY.
[44:42] UM.
[44:43] BUT I WOULD DEFER THAT.
[44:44] OKAY.
[44:45] UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE
[44:47] TIMING, UH, CAN YOU JUST
[44:49] EXPLAIN LIKE IF WE HOLD OFF ON
[44:52] VOTING LIKE WHAT?
[44:53] WHAT IS THE WHY IS THIS BEING
[44:55] PUT UP NOW AND.
[44:56] RIGHT RIGHT.
[44:58] LIKE UM, YOU KNOW ON LIKE SORT
[45:00] OF LIKE A THE ORIGINAL 1ST MAY
[45:02] THAT THAT.
[45:04] UH KICKS OFF THE ABILITY TO
[45:05] ACTUALLY EXECUTE AND GIVE THE
[45:06] WAGE INCREASE THE WAGE
[45:08] INCREASES ARE HAVE ALREADY
[45:10] HAPPENED AND THIS IS REALLY
[45:11] JUST A CORRECTION OR OF ABOUT A
[45:13] 527 BUDGET TO MAKE SURE THAT
[45:15] IT'S.
[45:15] THE RIGHT VALUE.
[45:16] TO UH, COVER THESE COSTS.
[45:19] OKAY.
[45:19] UM, AND UH YEAH, I JUST
[45:22] FOLLOWING UP ON
[45:24] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD'S POINT I
[45:25] KNOW IN MAY WE TALKED ABOUT.
[45:26] JUST FOR MY COLLEAGUES I THINK
[45:28] IT WAS THAT, UH WE HEARD THAT.
[45:31] THE DEPARTMENT IS SHORT STAFFED
[45:33] OF APPROXIMATELY 45 DETECTIVES
[45:35] UH, BACK THEN.
[45:36] SO IT SOUNDS SIMILAR UH UH,
[45:40] NUMBERS.
[45:41] UM, OKAY, I I WE I'M FINE.
[45:45] IF THERE IS ANY REPRESENTATION
[45:48] WE CAN, UH, SORT OF SET UP UH,
[45:51] YOU KNOW, A SECOND PANEL HERE
[45:53] AGAIN IF PEOPLE HAVE SOME
[45:56] QUESTIONS UM, AND I DON'T KNOW
[46:00] IF UNION REPRESENTATION WANTS
[46:02] TO WHAT'S WHAT'S THE SUBJECT
[46:03] THEMSELVES TO THAT BUT, UM,
[46:05] DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY
[46:06] QUESTIONS FOR DIRECTOR
[46:08] WILLIAMSON?
[46:09] YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL GO IN
[46:10] ORDER.
[46:11] UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[46:13] MR CHAIR, UH.
[46:15] I YOU KNOW, I SAID AT THE
[46:17] BEGINNING I WOULD LIKE TO.
[46:18] HEAR DIRECTLY FROM THE THE
[46:20] POLICE OFFICERS AND THE UNION.
[46:22] UNION LEADERSHIP.
[46:23] UM, RESPECT THEM.
[46:26] UH, WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY HAVE
[46:27] TO SAY SO I DON'T HAVE ANY
[46:29] QUESTIONS.
[46:29] I'D RATHER I'D RATHER USE MY
[46:30] TIME TO HEAR FROM, UM, THE
[46:32] POLICE OFFICERS AND THE UNION
[46:34] UNION MEMBERS.
[46:35] OKAY.
[46:36] UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN OR
[46:38] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD?
[46:39] UM, SAME.
[46:39] I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT
[46:41] PANEL.
[46:41] THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
[46:42] OKAY.
[46:43] UH, OKAY.
[46:46] UH, THANK YOU, DIRECTOR
[46:48] WILLIAMSON.
[46:50] UH UH, KIRISHIMA I DON'T KNOW.
[46:53] UM YOU.
[46:54] I'VE PROMOTED MR GRIFFIN AS A
[46:56] PANELIST SO YOU CAN CALL ON
[46:57] HIM.
[46:57] OKAY.
[46:58] UH, YEAH.
[47:00] UH UM.
[47:02] UH, YES.
[47:02] BOB GRIFFIN, YOU'RE HERE I
[47:04] GUESS, UH, IF.
[47:06] YOU YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANT
[47:07] TO SAY?
[47:08] YOU GOT A COUPLE MINUTES?
[47:10] UH, AND THEN WE'LL, UH WE HAVE
[47:12] THREE COUNSELORS HERE IF THEY
[47:13] HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
[47:15] UH, UM.
[47:17] WE'LL GO FROM THERE.
[47:18] SO, UH, I GUESS THE FLOOR IS
[47:20] YOURS.
[47:22] WELL.
[47:23] THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE
[47:25] COUNCIL MURPHY, UH, FOR
[47:25] INVITING MEJIA.
[47:26] UH, I APPRECIATE IT.
[47:28] UH, I JUST I GOT AN I GOT IN
[47:30] LATE UM, TO THE CONVERSATION
[47:32] HERE A COUPLE OF THINGS WE I
[47:34] THINK WE ARE ABOUT 238 TO 241
[47:37] DETECTIVES RIGHT NOW WE'RE
[47:38] BUDGET FOR 283.
[47:40] THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING A
[47:41] CLASS OF DETECTIVES IN I THINK
[47:43] IT MR WILLIAMSON WAS SAYING HE
[47:44] WAS SAYING MAYBE ABOUT SIX
[47:46] MONTHS THAT IT'S ONLY A MONTH
[47:47] TO TRAIN DETECTIVES.
[47:48] THEY GET OUT AND THEN THEY CAN
[47:50] BE, UM, A DETECTIVE.
[47:51] THE SIX MONTHS IS FOR SUPERIOR
[47:53] DETECTIVES.
[47:54] SO IF THE, UM A SERGEANT, UH,
[47:57] GETS PUT INTO A UNIT, UH, THEY
[47:59] HAVE TO STAY IN THAT, YOU KNOW,
[48:00] FOR SIX MONTHS AND THEN THE
[48:01] UNIT UM, INVESTIGATIVE UNIT
[48:04] THEY'LL PUT THEM INTO THE UNIT
[48:05] FOR SIX MONTHS, THEY'LL RATE
[48:06] THEM.
[48:06] DETECTIVE, DON'T, UH, SERGEANT
[48:08] DETECTIVE LIEUTENANT.
[48:09] DETECTIVE CAPTAIN DETECTIVE.
[48:10] UH, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
[48:13] UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO GET YOU
[48:16] KNOW, EVEN WITH THE CLASS OF 25
[48:18] THAT POSSIBLY WILL BE GOING IN
[48:19] OCTOBER THAT WE WERE TOLD
[48:20] SEPTEMBER THEN GOT MOVE TO
[48:22] OCTOBER.
[48:23] NOT NOW.
[48:24] UH, SO IF IT GOES IN
[48:25] OCTOBER NOW YOU'RE TALKING LATE
[48:26] NOVEMBER THAT THEY'RE GOING TO
[48:28] WE'RE GOING TO GET UH SOME
[48:29] RELIEF AND I JUST WANT TO SAY
[48:31] CASTLE MURPHY KIND OF TOUCHED
[48:32] ON THIS WE HAVE 238 TO 241
[48:35] RIGHT.
[48:35] BUT AND THE PATROLMEN ARE DOWN
[48:36] A LITTLE BIT.
[48:37] WE DID A FOIA REQUEST THROUGH,
[48:39] UH, HUMAN RESOURCES WHERE ABOUT
[48:40] THAT WITH THE SAME OH, THAT THE
[48:42] PATROLMAN RIGHT WHERE THEY WERE
[48:43] ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO AND STILL
[48:45] UNDERSTAFFED.
[48:45] DEFINITELY.
[48:46] UH, BUT WE ARE 50 ALMOST COMING
[48:50] UP ON 50 BELOW WHERE WE WERE AT
[48:52] UH 5 OR 6 YEARS AGO.
[48:54] THE CASELOADS ARE GETTING
[48:55] HIGHER BECAUSE OF THE YOU KNOW
[48:57] ,THEY THINK OF WHAT HAS
[48:58] CHANGED IN THE LAST YOU KNOW,
[48:59] WITH AI AND WITH WITH UM YOU
[49:01] KNOW, THE CAMERA STUFF THAT
[49:02] WE'VE UM OUR MEMBERS HAVE TO GO
[49:04] INTO AND SEARCH ALL THIS ALL
[49:06] THIS FOOTAGE, ALL THIS DATA AND
[49:08] CELL PHONES, ALL THAT THERE'S
[49:09] SO MANY THINGS NOW WITH
[49:10] TECHNOLOGY THAT WE'RE DOING
[49:11] DIFFERENTLY.
[49:12] SO WE'RE HAVING THE CASELOAD
[49:13] THE LARGER THE THE WORK IS
[49:15] HARDER NOW AND WE'RE GETTING UM
[49:17] WE HAVING LESS DETECTIVE SO THE
[49:19] AND IT GOES RIGHT INTO THE
[49:22] HEALTH AND WELLNESS OF OUR
[49:23] MEMBERS RIGHT.
[49:24] THE CASELOAD IS CRAZY BUT WE
[49:26] CAN ALSO IF WE HAVE LIKE THE
[49:28] PATROLMAN WE SUPPLEMENT THE
[49:30] PATROL FORCE ON THIS SHORT WE
[49:31] GET ORDERED INTO INTO UNIFORM
[49:34] THE PATROLMAN THEY DON'T
[49:36] SUPPLEMENT OUR CASELOADS.
[49:37] WE WE DO OUR OWN CASELOAD
[49:38] BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE'RE READY,
[49:40] WE'RE TRAINED AND WE'RE READY
[49:41] DETECTIVES.
[49:41] SO THAT RIGHT THERE I I WOULD
[49:44] SAY THAT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS
[49:45] TO PUT MORE DETECTIVES ON GET
[49:46] US BACK UP TO THE 278 TO 83.
[49:49] BUT IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND
[49:50] WELLNESS, I NOTICED YOU GUYS
[49:51] WERE ALL AT THE UM AND IT WAS
[49:53] GREAT.
[49:54] UH, WE HAD THE US YOU KNOW, THE
[49:56] DOG DIAGNOSTIC SERVICES IN LAST
[49:58] LAST YEAR YOU GUYS WERE UP IN
[50:00] WEST ROXBURY FOR THE
[50:02] FIREFIGHTERS LAST WEEK I
[50:03] BELIEVE.
[50:03] YES I'VE YEP I WAS OUT THERE.
[50:06] YOU KNOW I CONGRATULATE YOU FOR
[50:07] THAT.
[50:07] I CONGRATULATE THEM FOR GETTING
[50:08] THAT DONE.
[50:09] WE AND THAT'S I THINK FUNDED BY
[50:10] THE CITY THROUGH A GRANT WE
[50:12] DON'T WHEN WE DO THAT WE HAVE
[50:13] THEM IN FOR OUR MEMBERS WE WE
[50:16] HAVE TO WE HAVE TO FUNDRAISE
[50:18] FOR OUR HEALTH HEALTH
[50:19] SCREENINGS.
[50:20] SO WE RAISE MONEY AND WE SPEND
[50:21] OUR OWN MONEY AS A UNION TO DO
[50:22] THAT FOR OUR MEMBERS.
[50:23] AND WE'VE DONE ABOUT 300
[50:24] MEMBERS IN THE LAST 3 OR 4
[50:26] YEARS AND WE FUND AND EVERY
[50:27] TIME YOU DO THEM YOU TALK TO ED
[50:29] KELLY I SAW WAS THERE IF THE IF
[50:30] SAM DILLON EVERY TIME YOU DO
[50:32] 100 MEMBERS YOU GET ABOUT THREE
[50:33] PEOPLE THAT YOU SAVE IN THEIR
[50:35] LIVES.
[50:36] SO WE'RE SAVING LIVES WHEN WE
[50:37] DO THIS BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE
[50:39] HAVE TO FUNDRAISE AND THE, UH,
[50:42] CREDIT UNION DOWN AT THE FIRST
[50:43] RESPONDERS CREDIT UNION HAS
[50:44] BEEN GREAT TO US.
[50:44] SO WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY DO
[50:46] WITH US.
[50:46] BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
[50:48] THINK THE CITY SHOULD DO.
[50:49] THIS SHOULD BE A BUDGET IN THE
[50:50] CITY UM IN THE BUDGET FOR SOME
[50:51] FUNDING FOR SOME FUNDS FOR US
[50:53] TO HAVE UH THE HEALTH
[50:54] SCREENINGS DONE AS WELL AND
[50:56] RATHER THAN HAVE US MAKE A
[50:57] RECORD AND RAISE OUR OWN FUNDS
[50:58] FOR A BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S LIFE
[51:00] SAVING UH, SCREENINGS.
[51:02] UH, BUT UM.
[51:03] YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT JUST
[51:05] BECAUSE YOU MISSED THE
[51:06] BEGINNING, UH, OF SO WHAT WE'RE
[51:08] HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY
[51:10] IS THE 2% WAGE INCREASES THAT
[51:12] WERE APPROVED, UH, IN MAY.
[51:16] YOU KNOW WHERE THOSE DOCKETS
[51:17] ARE BEFORE US?
[51:19] UH, AND YOU KNOW, I'M ASSUMING
[51:22] THAT THE UNION, UH, YOU KNOW,
[51:25] PENDING THE RENEGOTIATION OR
[51:27] NEGOTIATION OF THE NEW CONTRACT
[51:29] WOULD SUPPORT THE THE 2%, YOU
[51:32] KNOW, GETTING THE MONEY OUT
[51:33] OF THE COLLECTIVE BARGAINING
[51:35] RESERVE TO FUND 2% WAGE
[51:37] INCREASES FOR YOUR MEMBERS THAT
[51:39] THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S WHAT
[51:41] WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT.
[51:42] I YOU KNOW, I KNOW UH, MY MY
[51:44] COLLEAGUES WOULD LIKE TO
[51:45] HIGHLIGHT SOME OTHER ISSUES AND
[51:47] THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES WITH UH
[51:49] WITH YOUR MEMBERS AND WE
[51:51] CERTAINLY AS A COUNCIL WE
[51:52] SHOULD BE WORKING ON THESE ARE
[51:53] ALL WORTHWHILE.
[51:54] THINGS TO TALK ABOUT.
[51:55] AND THANK YOU FOR
[51:56] HIGHLIGHTING THOSE.
[51:56] UH, BUT AND I'LL LEAVE IT TO MY
[51:59] COLLEAGUES FOR QUESTIONS JUST
[52:00] JUST TO GIVE YOU THE THE LEVEL
[52:02] SET HERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
[52:03] DOCKET, UH, DOCKETS THAT WOULD
[52:04] TAKE MONEY OUT OF THE
[52:05] COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVES
[52:06] TO.
[52:07] FUND UH, THE WAGES FOR UH, THE
[52:11] DETECTIVES BENEVOLENT UH
[52:13] SOCIETY AND THE DETECTIVE.
[52:14] BENEVOLENT SOCIETY FOR SUPERIOR
[52:17] OFFICERS UM.
[52:18] SO THAT WE HAD APPROVED LAST
[52:19] YEAR.
[52:20] BUT, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[52:22] I'M JUST GOING TO I'M GOING TO
[52:23] THROW IT TO MY COLLEAGUES.
[52:25] UH UH, YOU KNOW, HOW ABOUT.
[52:27] UM YOU KNOW.
[52:28] WE'LL GIVE YOU.
[52:30] LET'S SEE FOUR MINUTES UH, FOR
[52:33] QUESTIONS.
[52:33] YOU KNOW, MR CHAIR, SIX
[52:35] MINUTES.
[52:36] UM SIX MINUTES.
[52:37] HE'S HE'S HE'S.
[52:38] A.
[52:38] UNION PRESIDENT.
[52:39] YES, I HEAR YOU.
[52:40] UH, WELL, IT'S A SURPRISE THAT,
[52:41] UH, WE'RE DOING FOUR MINUTES IF
[52:43] YOU HAVE FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS
[52:44] WILL.
[52:44] COME BACK.
[52:46] OKAY.
[52:47] WELL.
[52:47] I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO
[52:49] BOB AND, UM, HIS
[52:51] PROFESSIONALISM AND HIS
[52:52] ADVOCACY FOR HIS MEMBERS.
[52:55] UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS IS AN
[52:56] ISSUE WITH.
[52:57] WE'VE TALKED.
[52:58] ABOUT AND WORKED ON FOR UH FOR
[53:00] FOR MANY YEARS I WAS I WAS
[53:03] LISTENING TO YOUR CONVERSATION
[53:05] AND.
[53:06] IT STRUCK ME.
[53:08] THAT BASICALLY.
[53:09] UNION THE UNION AND MEMBERS ARE
[53:12] ALMOST PAYING FOR THEIR OWN
[53:15] ASPECTS.
[53:15] SOME PARTS OF THEIR HEALTH AND
[53:17] WELLNESS.
[53:17] IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE TO.
[53:19] SAY BOBBY.
[53:21] THAT THAT'S ACCURATE.
[53:22] UH, COST OF FUN.
[53:23] THANK YOU.
[53:23] AND IT'S UM.
[53:26] SO SO WE GOT SOME WE GOT SOME
[53:28] FUNDRAISING DOING SOME GOLF
[53:29] TOURNAMENTS STUFF LIKE THAT BUT
[53:31] WE ALSO I THINK WE PAID UH
[53:32] MEMBERS.
[53:33] PAID AND 60,000 FOR THEIR OWN
[53:35] LAST YEAR SCANS FOR THEIR OWN
[53:37] UH, SCANS AND UM WE HAD THEM
[53:39] OUT TO THE UNION HALL.
[53:40] WE BROUGHT THE THE SAME TRUCK
[53:41] THAT YOU PROBABLY SAW LAST WEEK
[53:43] AT THE WITH THE FIRE.
[53:44] WE BROUGHT THEM TO OUR UNION
[53:45] HALL AND YEAH, WE PAID FOR YOU
[53:48] KNOW, WHATEVER WE COULDN'T
[53:49] WHATEVER THE WE HAD LET'S SAY
[53:51] 50,000 IT COST $100,000.
[53:53] WE PAID THE UM THE EXTRA SO
[53:54] ABOUT $60,000 LAST YEAR OUT
[53:56] OF OUR FUNDS.
[53:58] THANK YOU.
[53:59] UM THANK YOU.
[53:59] THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER.
[54:01] RESPECT THE ANSWER AS AS A CITY
[54:05] WE'RE BETTER THAN THAT.
[54:08] HAVING HAVING.
[54:09] POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR
[54:10] FAMILIES AND THE UNION AND TO
[54:13] TRY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THE
[54:16] HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR THEIR
[54:18] MEDICAL NEEDS.
[54:20] WHAT WE'RE.
[54:21] ASKING THEM BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A
[54:23] CRITICAL ISSUE THAT IT'S SO
[54:25] IMPORTANT WE'RE ASKING THEM TO
[54:26] TO.
[54:27] PAY FOR IT PAY FOR.
[54:28] IT ON YOUR OWN.
[54:29] YOU KNOW.
[54:30] THE THE CITY'S NOT GOING TO PAY
[54:32] FOR ALL OF IT.
[54:33] UM THE YOU KNOW, YOU GOT YOU'RE
[54:36] ON THE HOOK FOR SOME OF IT I
[54:37] DON'T I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
[54:39] I THINK WHEN WE PUT.
[54:40] SOMEONE IN HARM'S WAY FOR AN
[54:43] EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME EIGHT
[54:45] HOURS A DAY, 16 HOURS A DAY AND
[54:48] OH, BY THE WAY, YOU GUYS HAVE
[54:50] TO PAY SOME OF YOUR HEALTH AND
[54:51] WELLNESS.
[54:52] I DON'T SUPPORT THAT.
[54:53] THAT'S NOT THE BOSTON UM, FROM
[54:56] UM I'M I'M PRETTY ANGRY ABOUT
[54:58] THAT RIGHT NOW AND I KNOW THIS
[55:02] THIS CITY COUNCIL DOESN'T
[55:04] SUPPORT.
[55:04] IT DOESN'T.
[55:05] SUPPORT THE RANK AND FILE
[55:07] POLICE OFFICERS.
[55:07] WHY WHY WHY.
[55:09] DO YOU SAY THAT, ED?
[55:10] WELL.
[55:11] LOOK LISTEN TO WHAT WE JUST
[55:13] HEARD.
[55:13] THAT THAT THAT POLICE OFFICERS
[55:15] ARE PAYING FOR THEIR OWN
[55:16] MEDICAL CARE.
[55:16] THAT'S PRETTY OUTRAGEOUS.
[55:18] THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS.
[55:19] THANKFULLY THEY ARE PAYING IT
[55:21] THAT THE THE THE THE MEN AND
[55:23] WOMEN AND THEIR FAMILIES AND
[55:24] THE UNION THEY'RE PAYING IT BUT
[55:26] THAT'S THE JOB OF A CITY.
[55:27] THAT'S THE JOB OF THE CITY
[55:29] GOVERNMENT IN MY OPINION.
[55:32] UM I'M EMBARRASSED.
[55:34] I'M REALLY EMBARRASSED AS A
[55:35] LONGTIME BOSTON RESIDENT
[55:37] KNOWING THAT WE'RE NOT
[55:40] PROVIDING POLICE OFFICERS AND
[55:42] THEIR FAMILIES WITH THE
[55:43] CRITICAL HEALTH AND WELLNESS
[55:44] VARIOUS SCREENINGS AND I JUST
[55:47] CAN'T SIT HERE AND PRETEND
[55:49] THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
[55:51] AND CAN I JUST SAY ONE ONE
[55:52] THING?
[55:53] SORRY.
[55:53] YEAH, YEAH, I.
[55:54] BET I MAY HAVE MISSPOKE
[55:55] ABOUT THE MONEY THAT THE 50,000
[55:57] THAT I THAT WAS THROUGH
[55:59] FUNDRAISING THE OTHER 60,000
[56:00] WAS FROM OUR FROM OUR OWN
[56:02] COFFERS LET'S SAY RIGHT THE
[56:03] CITY PAID THE CITY PAY NONE
[56:05] OF IT WOULD SAY THAT THEY
[56:06] DIDN'T PAY HALF THEY DIDN'T
[56:07] THEY PAID NONE OF IT.
[56:08] YEAH I.
[56:10] I KNOW THAT WAS AN ISSUE MYSELF
[56:12] AND JOHN AND ERIN WE.
[56:14] WE WORKED ON DURING THE BUDGET
[56:16] ON HEALTH AND WELLNESS FOR
[56:17] POLICE.
[56:18] I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE A
[56:19] SERIOUS CONVERSATION.
[56:20] GOING IN.
[56:22] THE.
[56:22] FUTURE ABOUT.
[56:23] WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING.
[56:25] TO TREAT POLICE.
[56:25] OFFICERS WITH.
[56:26] RESPECT OR NOT.
[56:27] UM, AND IF WE ARE.
[56:29] GOING TO TREAT THEM WITH
[56:29] RESPECT WE HAVE TO WE.
[56:31] HAVE TO ADDRESS HEALTH AND
[56:32] WELLNESS AND SCREENING RELATED
[56:34] ISSUES.
[56:35] UM.
[56:35] HIS HIS.
[56:37] A POLICE OFFICER, BOBBY
[56:38] GRIFFIN.
[56:38] THAT'S DOING EVERYTHING.
[56:40] HE CAN FOR HIS MEMBERS AND THE
[56:43] CITY OF BOSTON IS NOT STEPPING
[56:45] UP UM, TO.
[56:46] SUPPORT TO SUPPORT THE MEMBERS
[56:48] .
[56:48] UM, I'M PRETTY OUTRAGED.
[56:50] I'M PRETTY UPSET ABOUT THAT.
[56:51] BUT, UM, I'LL I'LL I'LL LEAVE
[56:55] IT TO THE NEXT
[56:56] COUNCIL COLLEAGUE BECAUSE I'M
[56:57] I'M OUT OF TIME, I BELIEVE.
[56:58] OKAY.
[56:59] YEAH.
[56:59] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[57:00] UH, COUNCILOR MURPHY.
[57:02] YES.
[57:03] YOU'RE HERE OKAY.
[57:04] YEP.
[57:04] AND THANK YOU, BOBBY FOR
[57:07] HOPPING ON ON SUCH SHORT NOTICE
[57:08] .
[57:09] AND I THINK IT'S ALWAYS.
[57:10] IMPORTANT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
[57:13] HEARINGS.
[57:14] I BELIEVE AND OFTENTIMES WHEN I
[57:17] FILE OR SPONSOR HEARINGS THE
[57:18] ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T SHOW UP
[57:20] TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
[57:21] SO I'M HAPPY THAT WE CAN GET
[57:22] SOME CLARIFYING ANSWERS TO WHAT
[57:25] I BELIEVE IS IMPORTANT AND IT
[57:26] DOES TIED TO THE BUDGET AND IT
[57:28] TIES TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO
[57:29] ADVOCATE TO MAKE SURE WE SEE IN
[57:30] OUR BUDGET.
[57:32] ANOTHER THING THAT IS
[57:34] CONCERNING TO ME IS WHEN WE PIT
[57:35] OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AGAINST
[57:37] EACH OTHER, ESPECIALLY OUR
[57:38] FIRST RESPONDERS.
[57:39] I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO
[57:40] JUST ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I THINK
[57:44] IT'S ALWAYS BEEN TRUE AND YOU
[57:46] WOULD KNOW BEING OUT THERE ON
[57:47] THE STREETS UM BOBBY BUT OUR
[57:49] EMS RECENTLY IN THE NEWS WE'RE
[57:51] HEARING A LOT OF EMS BEING
[57:54] ATTACKED AND NOT TREATED
[57:55] PROPERLY AND MAYBE NOT HAVING
[57:56] ALL THE SUPPORT THEY NEED.
[57:58] SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE
[58:00] EMS KNOWS I'M ADVOCATING FOR
[58:02] THEIR HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND
[58:03] THE SUPPORTS THEY NEED AND WHEN
[58:06] THE ONE I BELIEVE POINT $3
[58:08] MILLION GRANT WAS NOT RENEWED
[58:11] DURING THE BUDGET SEASON A
[58:14] PORTION AND THANK YOU TO DANA
[58:15] FARBER AND THANK YOU FOR
[58:16] OUTSIDE SOURCES BUT ONLY
[58:18] 100,000 WAS REINSTATED UM 100%
[58:23] SUPPORTED AN ADVOCATE THAT OUR
[58:25] FIREFIGHTERS HAVE
[58:26] CANCER SCREENING OF COURSE.
[58:27] BUT WHEN YOU HEAR THAT OUR
[58:29] BOSTON POLICE AND OTHER FIRST
[58:30] RESPONDERS ARE THEN PAYING FOR
[58:32] THEIR OWN, THAT PART OF THE
[58:34] STORY WAS LEFT OFF.
[58:36] SO I THINK UM, NOW THAT I HAVE
[58:38] THAT INFORMATION I'LL MAKE SURE
[58:40] WE'RE ADVOCATING TO MAKE SURE I
[58:42] DON'T I WILL SAY KNOWLEDGE IS
[58:43] POWER.
[58:44] SO NOW WE CAN ADVOCATE TO MAKE
[58:45] SURE THAT ALL OF OUR FIRST
[58:46] RESPONDERS HAVE THE NECESSARY
[58:47] SCREENINGS.
[58:49] ONE OF THE BENEFITS I LOST WHEN
[58:52] I SWITCHED FROM BEEPS TO CITY
[58:54] HALL WAS UM, YOU KNOW, I HAD
[58:56] DENTAL AND EYE CARE, RIGHT?
[58:58] THAT WAS A WONDERFUL BENEFIT
[58:59] AND THAT HELPED ME AND MY
[59:01] FAMILY, YOU KNOW, IN WONDERFUL
[59:04] WAYS.
[59:05] SO EACH UNION FIGHTS AND
[59:06] ADVOCATES FOR WHAT THEIR
[59:08] MEMBERS NEED.
[59:08] BUT WHEN YOU'RE DIGGING INTO
[59:10] YOUR OWN POCKETS AND ASKING,
[59:13] YOU KNOW, CREDIT UNIONS AND
[59:15] NEIGHBORS TO, YOU KNOW, SPONSOR
[59:17] HOLES AT A GOLF TOURNAMENT AND
[59:19] THEN THAT'S NOT JUST GOING FOR
[59:21] BEREAVEMENT OR MAKING SURE
[59:22] SOMEONE'S WIFE MAYBE YOUR
[59:24] HUSBAND AFTER A DEATH GETS, YOU
[59:27] KNOW, SOME MEALS OR SUPPORTS
[59:28] IT'S GOING TO DIRECT RELATED
[59:32] HEALTH ISSUES THAT WE GET ON
[59:34] THE JOB RIGHT.
[59:35] SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE
[59:36] CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE FOR THAT.
[59:38] SO THAT'S SOMETHING I'LL WORK
[59:39] WITH YOU AND THE OTHER UNION
[59:41] LEADERS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE
[59:42] THOSE NUMBERS CORRECT AND
[59:44] SUPPORT YOUR MEMBERS.
[59:45] SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[59:47] AND COUNCILOR WEBER I DON'T
[59:48] HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
[59:50] I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT
[59:51] ANY TIME WE APPROVE A NEW
[59:53] BUDGET FOR THE NEW CYCLE THAT
[59:55] WE GET TO ASK QUESTIONS LIKE
[59:57] HOW MANY MEMBERS ARE WE DOWN?
[59:58] WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO?
[1:00:00] WHEN IS THE NEXT CLASS?
[1:00:02] SO I KNOW NOW THAT WE HAVE TO
[1:00:04] MAKE SURE AND KIND OF PUSH THAT
[1:00:05] THIS NEXT CLASS GOES THROUGH.
[1:00:07] IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THIS
[1:00:08] MONTH GET A DATE, MAKE SURE WE
[1:00:11] CAN HOLD THEM TO THAT NEW DATE
[1:00:13] IN OCTOBER AND THAT WE PROMOTE
[1:00:15] THE MEMBERS RIGHT WITH THE
[1:00:16] PROMOTION BECOMES MORE PAY AND
[1:00:18] IT'S AN EXPENSIVE CITY TO LIVE
[1:00:19] IN AND THOSE MEMBERS DESERVE
[1:00:21] THAT PAY.
[1:00:22] SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO
[1:00:23] ADVOCATING FOR THAT.
[1:00:24] THANK YOU.
[1:00:25] OKAY.
[1:00:26] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:00:26] UH, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
[1:00:28] I THINK YOU'RE STILL ON
[1:00:28] HERE.
[1:00:29] YEP, YEP.
[1:00:30] THANK YOU BUDDY.
[1:00:32] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[1:00:34] UM, SO, UH, JUST DOING SOME
[1:00:35] MATH FROM WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT
[1:00:38] 50,000 YOU FUNDRAISED 60,000
[1:00:39] COMES OUT OF YOUR OWN COFFERS.
[1:00:41] SO FOR FOR, UH, MENTAL HEALTH
[1:00:43] AND OVERALL PHYSICAL WELL-BEING
[1:00:45] .
[1:00:46] UM.
[1:00:46] UH, FOR YOUR MEMBERS LIKE IS
[1:00:50] 110,000 ROUGHLY WOULD THAT BE
[1:00:52] LIKE IF WE WOULD HAVE BUDGET
[1:00:53] FOR IT?
[1:00:53] IS THAT WHAT WE WOULD SORT
[1:00:55] OF BUDGET UH PER YEAR IF THE
[1:00:57] CITY WOULD HAVE PICK THAT UP
[1:00:58] BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE A
[1:00:59] NOMINAL OVERALL I DON'T KNOW
[1:01:00] MAYBE IF YOU HAVE A BIGGER
[1:01:02] NUMBER OR IS THAT JUST LIKE
[1:01:03] THAT'S THE BEST YOU KNOW
[1:01:04] RAISING 50 AND GIVEN 60.
[1:01:07] UM WAS SORT OF LIKE YOU JUST
[1:01:09] WRITE A BAND AID IS AS YOU GO
[1:01:12] UM AND IT'S PROBABLY A LARGER
[1:01:14] NUMBER TO YEAH.
[1:01:15] I WOULD JUST.
[1:01:16] BUT THANK YOU
[1:01:17] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
[1:01:18] UH NO UH IF IF WE COULD HAVE A
[1:01:20] GRANT FOR 100 $120,000 A YEAR
[1:01:23] TOWARDS THE HEALTH SCREENING,
[1:01:25] THAT WOULD BE AMAZING.
[1:01:26] YEAH, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE
[1:01:27] PERFECT.
[1:01:27] THAT WOULD HELP OUR MEMBERS
[1:01:28] TREMENDOUSLY.
[1:01:30] RIGHT OKAY.
[1:01:31] YEAH.
[1:01:31] I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE A NOMINAL
[1:01:33] FEE OR A $4.9 BILLION BUDGET TO
[1:01:35] MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE
[1:01:37] TAKING CARE OF THOSE THAT ARE
[1:01:38] TAKING CARE OF US.
[1:01:39] SO UM.
[1:01:39] THAT'S THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE
[1:01:41] SHOULD DEFINITELY LOOK AT.
[1:01:42] UM, AT LEAST WITH MY.
[1:01:44] FELLOW COUNCILORS.
[1:01:44] HERE UM, IN THE NEXT BUDGET
[1:01:45] SESSION TO SEE IF WE CAN GET
[1:01:47] THAT IN THERE.
[1:01:48] UM.
[1:01:48] OTHER THAN THAT, I DON'T
[1:01:49] THINK I WILL.
[1:01:50] I TURN MY TIME OVER TO YOU, BUT
[1:01:52] IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE THAT
[1:01:53] YOU'D LIKE TO PONTIFICATE UPON,
[1:01:55] UH, BEFORE STEPPING DOWN, I'LL
[1:01:56] GIVE YOU THE REST OF THE, UH,
[1:01:57] MY TIME, PLEASE.
[1:01:58] THANK YOU.
[1:01:59] JUST REAL QUICK.
[1:02:00] AND THIS IS A STAT I BRING UP
[1:02:01] THAT, UM, THERE'S ALL KINDS
[1:02:02] OF DIFFERENT STATS ABOUT, UM,
[1:02:03] FIRST RESPONDERS AND I THANK
[1:02:05] COUNCILOR MURPHY FOR MENTIONING
[1:02:06] EMS BECAUSE THEY DEAL WITH
[1:02:07] HAVING SOME OF THE SAME STUFF
[1:02:08] THAT WE DEAL WITH BUT AND AND
[1:02:10] SOME OF THE UH THIS GUY DOCTOR
[1:02:11] HAMM ROCK WHEN WE STARTED THIS
[1:02:12] CAMP PROGRAM ABOUT FIVE, MAYBE
[1:02:14] EIGHT YEARS AGO ACTUALLY HE UH
[1:02:16] HE HAD MENTIONED ONE OF THE ONE
[1:02:18] OF THE STATS IT JUST SHOOTS OUT
[1:02:19] YOU AT YOU AND I'LL JUST GIVE
[1:02:20] YOU THIS QUICK STAT IS THAT.
[1:02:22] FOR FIRST RESPONDERS BECAUSE
[1:02:23] OF THE STRESS LEVELS I MEAN
[1:02:25] THERE'S DIFFERENT STRESS LEVELS
[1:02:26] AND DIFFERENT JOBS BUT BECAUSE
[1:02:27] OF THE ADRENALINE RUSHES
[1:02:28] BETWEEN GOING TO CALLS YOU
[1:02:29] COULD HAVE THREE DAYS TO DO
[1:02:30] NOTHING AT EMS POLICE FIRE AND
[1:02:32] THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BOOM YOU
[1:02:33] GOT THREE CALLS AND YOUR HEART
[1:02:34] RATE IS GOING UP AND DOWN GOING
[1:02:35] ON THESE CALLS.
[1:02:36] SO FOR.
[1:02:37] US AND.
[1:02:37] IT'S SIMILAR WITH THE EMS
[1:02:39] AND FIRE I'M NOT SURE THE EXACT
[1:02:40] BUT FOR POLICE OFFICERS YOU
[1:02:41] HAVE YOUR FIRST HEART ATTACK AT
[1:02:43] 48 YEARS OLD TYPICALLY IT FOR
[1:02:47] UH A MEMBER OF THE GENERAL
[1:02:48] PUBLIC YOUR FIRST HEART ATTACK
[1:02:49] IS AT 68 YEARS OLD.
[1:02:50] THAT'S WHY THESE SCANS IT
[1:02:51] THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
[1:02:52] THESE SCANS ARE SO NECESSARY
[1:02:54] BECAUSE IT LOOKS INTO YOUR, UH,
[1:02:56] YOU KNOW, 11 PART ULTRASOUND
[1:02:58] AND THEN, UH, FULL BODY SCAN.
[1:03:00] SO TELLS YOU WHAT YOU KNOW,
[1:03:01] WHAT YOU MIGHT HAVE GOING ON.
[1:03:02] AND LIKE I SAID, IT SAVES
[1:03:02] LIVES.
[1:03:03] SO I APPRECIATE YOU TALKING
[1:03:04] ABOUT IT.
[1:03:04] I KNOW.
[1:03:05] UM.
[1:03:06] YOU GUYS ALL YOU KNOW, I
[1:03:08] APPRECIATE IT.
[1:03:08] THANK YOU.
[1:03:11] OKAY.
[1:03:12] UH, YEAH.
[1:03:13] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:03:14] UM, I GUESS JUST A DETECTIVE
[1:03:17] GRIFFIN.
[1:03:18] UH, MY QUESTION IS THERE IS
[1:03:20] THERE ANY MORE GAPS BETWEEN THE
[1:03:23] CONTRACTS BETWEEN THE PATROL
[1:03:26] OFFICERS AND THE DETECTIVES?
[1:03:28] I KNOW SOME OF THE LATTER, BUT
[1:03:29] THE CONTRACT WE APPROVED IN,
[1:03:32] UH, IN MAY CLOSED A LOT.
[1:03:34] BUT IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT
[1:03:36] SORT OF HANGING OUT THERE THAT
[1:03:38] ,UM.
[1:03:39] YOU KNOW, YOU'RE.
[1:03:40] TRYING TO ADDRESS IN.
[1:03:41] THE IN THESE NEGOTIATIONS?
[1:03:44] UH, I MEAN THERE'S ALWAYS GAPS
[1:03:46] SO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE WHAT
[1:03:47] THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE
[1:03:48] DETECTIVE AND PATROLMAN TWO YOU
[1:03:49] .
[1:03:50] KNOW.
[1:03:50] DIFFERENT JOBS WE ARE CIVIL
[1:03:52] SERVICE PATROLMAN.
[1:03:53] BUT, UH, I MEAN, IT'S THERE WAS
[1:03:55] THERE WAS A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE
[1:03:56] AT ONE POINT THAT PERCENTAGE
[1:03:57] HAS IT'S SHRUNK A LITTLE BIT
[1:03:59] LET'S SAY FROM 7 TO 5%.
[1:04:01] SO IF WE GET BACK UP TO 7%
[1:04:03] OF WHAT IT WAS BACK YOU KNOW,
[1:04:04] 1015 YEARS AGO THAT WOULD BE
[1:04:06] GREAT.
[1:04:06] BUT UM.
[1:04:09] IN TERMS OF WE'RE AT THE SAME
[1:04:10] UH, SCALES RIGHT NOW FOR UM NOT
[1:04:12] SCALES BUT WE'RE AT THE SAME
[1:04:14] YOU KNOW, WE SIGN THE CONTRACT
[1:04:15] SIMILAR TIME.
[1:04:16] SO BOTH OUR CONTRACTS EXPIRED
[1:04:17] THIS PAST UH, JULY 1ST.
[1:04:20] SO WE'RE.
[1:04:20] WE'RE LOOKING TO NEGOTIATE
[1:04:21] RIGHT NOW WITH THE.
[1:04:22] CITY AND THEN JUST I MEAN,
[1:04:24] MAYBE YOU ALREADY TALKED ABOUT
[1:04:25] THIS, BUT A SHORTAGE
[1:04:27] OF DETECTIVES SPECIFICALLY LIKE
[1:04:28] WHAT IS THAT WHAT DOES THAT
[1:04:30] MEAN?
[1:04:30] UH, FOR THE CITY, YOU KNOW.
[1:04:33] IT MEANS SOME OF THESE
[1:04:34] SPECIALIZED UNITS AREN'T
[1:04:35] GETTING FILLED AND A LOT OF A
[1:04:37] LOT OF THE DISTRICT UNITS
[1:04:38] AREN'T GETTING FILLED.
[1:04:38] MEANING MEANING THAT'S MORE
[1:04:40] CASELOAD FOR ALL OUR MEMBERS,
[1:04:41] RIGHT?
[1:04:42] SO THAT YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GO
[1:04:43] PULL MORE VIDEO.
[1:04:44] YOU HAVE TO YOU'RE DOING MORE
[1:04:45] SEARCH WARRANTS IF YOU'RE DOING
[1:04:47] IT THE CASELOADS ARE UH IN SOME
[1:04:48] STATES SOME DISTRICTS ARE BUSY
[1:04:50] THAN OTHERS.
[1:04:51] BUT EVERY DISTRICT NOW IT'S YOU
[1:04:52] KNOW, WE TALK TO OUR MEMBERS
[1:04:54] THAT THE THEY HAVE ENORMOUS
[1:04:56] CASELOADS AND THE WORK IS
[1:04:58] GETTING MORE UH WITH TECHNOLOGY
[1:05:01] YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MORE STUFF.
[1:05:02] THERE'S THERE'S MORE WAYS TO
[1:05:03] TRACK PEOPLE.
[1:05:03] THERE'S MORE WAYS TO, YOU KNOW,
[1:05:04] SOLVE CRIMES AND STUFF LIKE
[1:05:05] THAT BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT THE
[1:05:06] TIME IN OBVIOUSLY.
[1:05:08] SO UH YEAH IT'S.
[1:05:09] IT'S IT'S TAXING ON IT MEANS
[1:05:12] YOU CAN'T GO HOME AS OFTEN YOU
[1:05:13] KNOW YOU'RE WORKING MORE AND
[1:05:14] MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME TO
[1:05:15] TO TO SOLVE THESE CASES AND
[1:05:17] THEN YOU'RE ALSO GETTING
[1:05:18] ORDERED INTO DIFFERENT UM YOU
[1:05:20] KNOW, YOU CAN GET ALL INTO IF
[1:05:22] YOU'RE IN A DISTRICT YOU GET A
[1:05:23] LITTLE OR YOU KNOW SELLING
[1:05:23] THERE'S A SHOW FOR THE LAST
[1:05:25] HALF OR YOU KNOW, OVERNIGHT
[1:05:26] SHIFT OR FIRST HALF OR TO
[1:05:27] MIDNIGHT THEN YOU'RE GETTING
[1:05:28] ORDERED INTO THAT INTO UNIFORM
[1:05:29] IF YOU HAVE TO BUT YOU HAVE TO
[1:05:31] PUT YOUR UH CASELOAD ASIDE FOR
[1:05:32] THAT FOR THOSE.
[1:05:32] EIGHT HOURS.
[1:05:33] YEAH.
[1:05:34] OKAY.
[1:05:35] UH WELL I APPRECIATED IT.
[1:05:37] THANKS FOR BEING ABLE TO BEING
[1:05:39] AVAILABLE ADVOCATING FOR YOUR
[1:05:41] MEMBERS AND, UH.
[1:05:42] THANKS FOR EVERYTHING.
[1:05:43] YOU DO FOR THE CITY.
[1:05:44] UH, UM LET'S SEE.
[1:05:46] SO I THINK, UH, KARISHMA, IS
[1:05:48] THERE ANYONE ELSE, UH, FOR
[1:05:49] PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
[1:05:51] NOW, MR CHAIR?
[1:05:53] OKAY.
[1:05:54] UM, SO LET'S YOU KNOW, WE'RE
[1:05:56] GOING TO UH, TRY TO GET ANSWERS
[1:05:59] TO MY FELLOW COUNCILORS
[1:06:01] QUESTIONS, UH, AND YOU KNOW, I
[1:06:04] THAT I HOPEFULLY GET SOME
[1:06:05] OF THOSE ANSWERS AND BRING THIS
[1:06:06] UP FOR A VOTE ON WEDNESDAY IF
[1:06:08] IT TURNS OUT THAT WE NEED SOME
[1:06:09] MORE TIME TO GET THE ANSWERS.
[1:06:10] UM, I PLAN.
[1:06:12] TO WAIT.
[1:06:12] MR CHAIR.
[1:06:13] CAN I JUMP BACK FOR A QUICK
[1:06:14] SECOND?
[1:06:14] SURE, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[1:06:16] THANK YOU.
[1:06:17] DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS,
[1:06:19] UM, THE CITY COUNCIL HAD THE.
[1:06:21] OPPORTUNITY TO.
[1:06:23] OFFER AMENDMENTS.
[1:06:25] WE GOT THAT POWER GRANTED TO
[1:06:27] US.
[1:06:27] UM, SEVERAL YEARS AGO I OFFERED
[1:06:31] AN AMENDMENT.
[1:06:33] TO FUND HEALTH AND WELLNESS
[1:06:35] PROGRAMS FOR THE BOSTON POLICE
[1:06:37] DEPARTMENT.
[1:06:37] I BELIEVE I PUT IN 500 A
[1:06:39] REQUEST FOR $500,000 THAT WAS
[1:06:42] THAT WAS VOTED DOWN BY CITY
[1:06:45] COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
[1:06:46] I WANTED TO I WANT TO GET THAT
[1:06:48] ON THE RECORD.
[1:06:49] UM I WAS ABLE TO GET SOME
[1:06:51] FUNDING AND FOR EMS WE THEY
[1:06:53] SUPPORTED THAT UM THEY VOTED IT
[1:06:55] DOWN FOR BOSTON FIRE ALSO.
[1:06:58] BUT I WILL CALL BECAUSE I JUST
[1:07:00] WANTED TO GET IT ON THE RECORD.
[1:07:01] OUR COLLEAGUES VOTED DOWN THE
[1:07:04] THE AMENDMENTS TO ADD MORE
[1:07:06] MONEY INTO HEALTH AND WELLNESS
[1:07:08] FOR BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.
[1:07:10] THE THE THE RESPONSIBILITY AND
[1:07:12] BLAME ALSO LIES ON THE CITY
[1:07:15] COUNCIL A FAILING TO HAVE THE
[1:07:17] COURAGE TO STAND UP FOR WHAT IS
[1:07:19] RIGHT.
[1:07:20] UM SO WE CAN WE CAN SAY WE'RE
[1:07:22] GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR IT AND
[1:07:24] NEXT YEAR WHICH WE WILL BUT WE
[1:07:26] HAVE THAT WE HAVE THE ABILITY
[1:07:27] TO DO IT LAST YEAR AND WE
[1:07:29] DECIDED TO NOT DO IT AND WE WE
[1:07:31] DID NOT PROVIDE THE THE
[1:07:33] CRITICAL LEADERSHIP THAT WAS
[1:07:35] NEEDED AT THAT TIME.
[1:07:36] SO WE WE HEARD A LOT OF BOSTON
[1:07:39] POLICE OFFICERS AND THEIR
[1:07:41] FAMILIES.
[1:07:41] IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY
[1:07:43] COUNCIL TO SHOW A LITTLE BIT
[1:07:44] OF A BACKBONE AND STAND UP FOR
[1:07:46] WHAT IS RIGHT.
[1:07:47] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[1:07:48] OKAY.
[1:07:49] THANK YOU.
[1:07:49] I JUST AS THE CHAIR OF THE
[1:07:50] WAYS.
[1:07:50] AND MEANS COMMITTEE, YOU.
[1:07:51] KNOW, WE.
[1:07:52] WORK UH, TOGETHER ON
[1:07:53] AMENDMENTS AND.
[1:07:54] THIS IS ABOUT YOU.
[1:07:55] GOT TO BUILD CONSENSUS WITH
[1:07:56] YOUR COLLEAGUES AND FIND THAT
[1:07:58] OF COURSE THE AMENDMENTS IT'S
[1:08:00] A22 SIDED COIN.
[1:08:00] YOU GOT TO FIND MONEY TO TAKE
[1:08:02] THE PLACE AGAIN.
[1:08:03] MR.
[1:08:03] THE IN THE REGULAR UH.
[1:08:05] WE DON'T WE DON'T HAVE TO
[1:08:06] GET A THAT'S A REAL MISTER
[1:08:07] CHAIR.
[1:08:08] MISTER CHAIR, I THANK YOU VERY
[1:08:09] I RECOMMENDED YOUR COMMENDED
[1:08:11] THAT THE MONEY I RECOMMENDED
[1:08:12] THE MONEY BE TAKEN OUT
[1:08:14] OF OFFICE.
[1:08:15] AND NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
[1:08:16] I COULD AT LEAST PICK UP TO
[1:08:17] THAT.
[1:08:17] YES OKAY.
[1:08:18] YEAH THAT YOU'RE WE YEAH THAT'S
[1:08:21] THAT'S THAT'S HOW THAT THAT
[1:08:22] WORKS NOW YOU'VE MADE.
[1:08:24] YOUR COMMENTS.
[1:08:25] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:08:25] NO NO YOU'RE PASSING THE BUCK,
[1:08:27] MR CHAIR.
[1:08:27] OKAY.
[1:08:28] WELL, UH, I.
[1:08:30] I WOULD.
[1:08:31] SAY IF YOU WANT.
[1:08:32] THAT AMENDMENT PASSED.
[1:08:33] PLEASE WORK WITH YOUR
[1:08:34] COLLEAGUES AND, UH.
[1:08:35] BUILD CONSENSUS.
[1:08:36] AND.
[1:08:37] YOU CAN GET THAT AMENDMENT.
[1:08:38] OKAY.
[1:08:39] SO THANK.
[1:08:39] YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:08:40] THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR
[1:08:41] BEING HERE.
[1:08:42] THANK YOU TO THE BUDGET
[1:08:43] DIRECTOR AND DETECTIVE.
[1:08:44] GRIFFIN FOR.
[1:08:45] MAKING THE TIME AND.
[1:08:46] PROVIDING US WITH YOUR, UH,
[1:08:48] THOUGHTFUL ANSWERS.
[1:08:49] UH, WITH THAT SAID, UH, THIS
[1:08:52] HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBERS 1671
[1:08:55] TO.
[1:08:55] 1674.
[1:08:56] IS NOW ADJOURNED.
[1:08:58] NO GAVEL.
[1:08:58] OKAY.
[1:08:59] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:09:00] THANK YOU.
[1:09:01] YES.