City Services on September 18, 2026

0:40 GOOD MORNING.

0:42 MY NAME IS ED FLYNN.

0:43 CITY COUNCIL FOR DISTRICT 12.

0:46 CHAIR OF THE CITY COUNCIL.

0:47 COMMITTEE ON CITY SERVICES.

0:50 TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026.

0:53 THE EXACT TIME IS TEN ZERO

0:58 EIGHT.

0:58 I DO APOLOGIZE FOR STARTING

1:00 THIS MEETING EIGHT MINUTES

1:02 LATE.

1:03 THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED

1:05 .

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1:30 AND WILL BE A PART OF THE

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1:34 CITY COUNCILS.

1:36 PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

1:38 AT THE END OF THE HEARING OR

1:41 MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE HEARING.

1:43 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

1:45 IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGN.

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1:49 TESTIFY.

1:49 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN.

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1:52 PLEASE ADD YOUR NAME TO THE

1:54 SIGN UP SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE

1:56 OF THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBER.

1:58 AND IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO

2:00 TESTIFY VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL

2:02 OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON.

2:04 LIAISON RON COBB AT RON ERWIN.

2:08 DOT COBB COBB@BOSTON.GOV.

2:13 FOR THE.

2:13 LINK AND YOUR NAME.

2:14 WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIST.

2:17 I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.

2:19 TO RON COBB FOR BEING HERE.

2:21 AND FOR.

2:22 ETHAN AS WELL.

2:24 AND APPRECIATE THE CITY

2:26 COUNCIL'S CENTRAL.

2:27 STAFF FOR SUPPORTING THIS

2:28 HEARING.

2:30 TODAY'S HEARING.

2:32 IS ON.

2:33 DOCKET 0773.

2:35 THIS IS AN ORDER FOR A HEARING

2:37 TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE

2:38 CITY OF BOSTON'S CURBSIDE FOOD

2:41 WASTE COLLECTION PROGRAM.

2:45 THE MATTER WAS.

2:46 SPONSORED BY.

2:47 CITY COUNCILORS.

2:49 GABRIEL COLLADO ZAPATA.

2:51 COUNCILOR SHARON DURKAN AND.

2:53 COUNCILOR ROOTSY LOUIJEUNE, WHO

2:55 WAS REFERRED TO THE.

2:56 COMMITTEE ON APRIL.

2:59 8TH, 2026.

3:03 TODAY I AM AND I.

3:05 AM JOINED BY COUNCILOR.

3:07 CLETA ZAPATA.

3:11 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

3:12 AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE

3:19 ANY.

3:20 LETTERS OF ABSENCE BUT IF I DO

3:22 RECEIVE THEM I WILL READ THEM

3:24 INTO THE RECORD.

3:27 I'M GOING TO GIVE MY COUNCIL.

3:30 COLLEAGUES THE OPPORTUNITY TO

3:32 GIVE AN OPENING.

3:33 STATEMENT AND AND.

3:34 I WILL GIVE AN OPENING

3:35 STATEMENT.

3:36 AFTER THEM.

3:36 BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO.

3:38 COUNCIL CLETA ZAPATA TO PROVIDE

3:41 AN OPENING STATEMENT.

3:42 THEN I WILL GO TO COUNCIL.

3:44 LOUIJEUNE AND THEN I'LL.

3:45 I'LL GIVE A BRIEF ONE MYSELF.

3:47 COUNCIL CLEDUS BARTLETT, YOU

3:48 HAVE THE FLOOR.

3:48 THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.

3:50 AND THANK YOU TO MY CO-SPONSOR

3:52 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE FOR BEING

3:53 HERE.

3:53 UM, I FILED THIS HEARING

3:54 BECAUSE BOSTON HAS MADE

3:56 MEANINGFUL PROGRESS ON FOOD

3:57 WASTE DIVERSION.

3:58 AND AS THE PROGRAM EVOLVES, THE

4:00 COUNCIL SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHERE

4:00 WE ARE, UH, WHAT IS WORKING,

4:02 WHO STILL LACKS ACCESS AND WHAT

4:04 IT WILL TAKE TO BUILD THE

4:05 SYSTEM WE WANT.

4:05 AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE,

4:06 UM, FOLKS IN MINISTRATION WHO

4:07 ARE HERE, CHIEF SWETT.

4:08 THANK YOU.

4:09 UM, DIRECTOR OSGOOD.

4:11 UM.

4:11 AND I'M SO SORRY I DON'T HAVE

4:12 YOUR NAME.

4:13 I WANT TO BE SURE TO GET IT

4:14 CORRECT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND

4:14 JUST SAYING IT OUT LOUD.

4:16 AVANTIKA MATHUR I WORK IN WASTE

4:17 REDUCTION.

4:18 OKAY.

4:19 WHAT'S YOUR FIRST NAME?

4:20 AVANTIKA.

4:21 OKAY.

4:22 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

4:23 HERE.

4:23 I GOT TO GO.

4:24 UM, OUR ZERO WASTE PLAN

4:26 ESTABLISHED AN AMBITIOUS,

4:27 AMBITIOUS GOAL OF DIVERTING AT

4:29 LEAST 80% OF OUR WASTE FROM

4:30 DISPOSAL BY 2030.

4:32 SORRY.

4:33 UH, 2035 FOOD WASTE HAS TO BE A

4:35 SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT

4:36 CONVERSATION WHEN FOOD ENDS UP

4:38 IN OUR TRADITIONAL TRASH STREAM

4:40 .

4:40 WE'RE NOT ONLY WASTING A

4:41 RESOURCE, WE'RE ADDING

4:42 UNNECESSARY VOLUME TO A, UH,

4:43 WASTE SYSTEM THAT COST THE CITY

4:45 AND HAS ENVIRONMENTAL

4:47 CONSEQUENCES.

4:48 OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM LAUNCHED A

4:50 PILOT IN 2022, PROVIDES FREE

4:52 COLLECTION TO RESIDENTS IN

4:53 BUILDINGS WITH SIX UNITS OR

4:55 FEWER.

4:55 AND PROJECT OSCAR PROVIDES

4:57 COMMUNITY DROP OFF LOCATIONS

4:58 AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS

4:59 REGARDLESS OF BUILDING TYPES.

5:01 WE KNOW DEMAND EXISTS,

5:02 ENROLLMENT IN CURBSIDE

5:03 COLLECTION REACH CAPACITY AND

5:04 RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN WAITING TO

5:06 PARTICIPATE.

5:07 BEGINNING THIS FALL, THE

5:09 ADMINISTRATION UH, WILL BE

5:10 MAKING SOME CHANGES.

5:12 UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE

5:15 UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S

5:16 OPPORTUNITY HERE AND I LOOK

5:17 FORWARD TO LEARNING ABOUT WHAT

5:18 THOSE CHANGES ARE.

5:19 AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR

5:21 ABOUT THE TRADE OFF FOR

5:22 EXISTING PARTICIPANTS.

5:23 COLLECTION FREQUENCY IS BEING

5:25 UM, UH, TALKED ABOUT AND WE'LL

5:28 LEARN MORE ABOUT IT TODAY.

5:29 AND SO FINALLY I JUST WANT US

5:32 TO UM, UNDERSTAND THE LARGER

5:33 QUESTION WHAT BOSTON'S FOOD UH

5:35 ,OUR LONG TERM UM, FOOD WASTE

5:38 INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE HOW

5:39 DO WE BUILD A SYSTEM THAT IS

5:40 EQUITABLE, ACCESSIBLE AND

5:41 ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE?

5:43 AND AGAIN, I'M GRATEFUL TO OUR

5:44 ADMINISTRATION, OUR PARTNERS

5:45 FOR THE WORK THAT HAS GOT

5:46 GOTTEN US HERE AND I'M LOOKING

5:48 FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION ON

5:49 HOW WE BUILD IT.

5:50 THANK YOU.

5:51 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.

5:53 QUARTERS ABOUT UH.

5:54 ,NEXT COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE

5:56 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE YOU HAVE THE

5:57 FLOOR.

5:57 GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

5:58 UM, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

6:00 I WANT TO THANK MY CO-SPONSOR,

6:01 THE.

6:01 LEAD SPONSOR COUNCILOR GALLARDO

6:03 .

6:03 UH.

6:04 ZAPATA AND ALL THE WORK THAT

6:05 SHE DOES ON THIS ISSUE AND ON

6:07 ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN

6:08 GENERAL.

6:08 I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE CHIEF

6:10 FOR BEING HERE DIRECTOR AND

6:12 AVANTIKA, THANK YOU.

6:12 UH, IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU AND

6:13 THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU

6:14 DO.

6:15 UM, I'M A BIG FAN OF OUR

6:17 CURBSIDE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM,

6:18 WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY

6:19 I, UM, ASKED THE LEAD SPONSOR

6:22 TO CO-SPONSOR UM AND I'D LIKE

6:24 TO HEAR ABOUT SORT OF WHAT ARE

6:25 WHAT IS THE GOOD AND THE BAD

6:27 AND TO TALK ABOUT UM, THE

6:29 BENEFITS OF THE UH, CURBSIDE

6:31 FOOD PROGRAM.

6:31 I ALSO KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW

6:33 ME MY A FAN BUT MY MOTHER'S A

6:34 FAN.

6:35 MY SISTER HAS BEEN TRYING TO

6:36 GET INTO THE PROGRAM.

6:37 UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S

6:39 A I THINK IT ALSO HAS SO MANY

6:41 OTHER BENEFITS FOR HOUSEHOLDS

6:43 LIKE FOR ME MY TRASH NEVER

6:45 SMELLS ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M

6:46 FREEZING MY FOOD SCRAPS AND MY

6:48 FOOD WASTE AND EVERY FRIDAY

6:50 LIKE THIS MORNING I PUT IT OUT

6:53 AND THEY COME AND PICK IT UP.

6:54 WANT TO SHUT OUT?

6:54 UM, HENRY WHO IS THE DRIVER WHO

6:56 COMES EVERY FRIDAY TO PICK UP

6:58 MY FOOD WASTE LIVES AND REBECCA

7:00 FROM GUATEMALA.

7:01 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU

7:02 WAITED FOR ME THIS MORNING AS I

7:03 WAS GETTING HOME FROM THE GYM.

7:04 UM, TODAY I CAN RUN IN MY HOUSE

7:06 AND BRING OUT MY LITTLE MY MY

7:07 LITTLE COMPOST BAG DIDN'T HAVE

7:09 A LOT BUT UM SO I'M A BIG FAN

7:11 OF THIS PROGRAM AND I'M A BIG

7:13 FAN OF EXPANSION OF THIS

7:14 PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW, I HAD A

7:16 CONVERSATION KNOWING THAT THIS

7:17 HEARING WAS HAPPENING THIS

7:18 MORNING WITH OUT OF ME ABOUT

7:20 SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT

7:21 WE'RE SEEING IN THE PROGRAM.

7:23 UM, I THINK MOSTLY FINANCIAL UM

7:25 ,AND WANTING TO THINK ABOUT

7:28 WHAT EXPANSION OUR PARTNERSHIP

7:29 FOR EXPANSION COULD LOOK LIKE.

7:31 UM, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN A

7:33 TIME OF FISCAL CHALLENGES FOR

7:34 US TO WANT TO CONTINUE

7:35 CHAMPIONING PROGRAMS THAT WE

7:36 SEE AS NET GOODS FOR OUR CITY

7:38 AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS?

7:39 UM, SO YEAH, JUST LOOKING

7:40 FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION AND

7:41 WANT TO THANK THE LEAD SPONSOR

7:42 FOR HER WORK.

7:42 THANK YOU.

7:44 AND BEFORE I GIVE A BRIEF

7:47 STATEMENT.

7:48 AGAIN I.

7:48 WANT TO.

7:49 ACKNOWLEDGE THE

7:49 ADMINISTRATION TEAM THAT'S

7:50 HERE.

7:51 BRIAN SWEAT, THE CHIEF OF.

7:53 ENVIRONMENT ENERGY CLEAN SPACE

7:56 CHRIS OSGOODE CHIEF OF STREETS.

7:58 AND AVANTIKA, UH, THANK YOU

8:03 FOR.

8:03 BEING WITH US AS WELL.

8:04 THANK YOU.

8:04 FOR THE IMPORTANT.

8:04 WORK THAT YOU WERE DOING.

8:07 UM, AND THANK YOU TO THE

8:09 SPONSORS IN THE ADMINISTRATION

8:10 FOR.

8:11 JOINING US.

8:11 THE CURBSIDE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM

8:14 IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR

8:15 RESIDENTS TO TURN THEIR FOOD

8:18 SCRAPS INTO FERTILE SOIL.

8:20 INSTEAD OF.

8:21 SENDING IT TO THE LANDFILL.

8:22 THIS PILOT SHOULD BE EXTENDED.

8:26 AND MADE MORE.

8:27 AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS ACROSS

8:28 THE CITY.

8:30 AT THE SAME TIME, I DO BELIEVE

8:31 IT'S.

8:31 IMPORTANT THAT.

8:32 THE.

8:33 CONTAINERS THAT.

8:33 ARE USED ARE PROPERLY SEALED TO

8:36 ADDRESS THE SERIOUS PUBLIC

8:37 HEALTH QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES

8:40 OF PEST CONTROL.

8:43 UM MY WIFE AND.

8:44 I ARE.

8:45 I THINK.

8:45 WE'RE THE ONLY.

8:46 HOUSE ON.

8:47 OUR.

8:47 STREET THAT IS PART OF THE

8:49 PILOT IN SOUTH BOSTON.

8:51 IT'S VERY LIMITED.

8:53 AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM,

8:56 WHICH IS THE LOW.

8:57 RENT SECTION.

8:57 OF SOUTH BOSTON.

8:58 BUT WHEN WE PUT OUR LITTLE

9:00 GREEN BARREL OUT EVERY FRIDAY,

9:03 PEOPLE ASK ME FREQUENTLY HOW DO

9:05 WE.

9:06 EXTEND THE PROGRAM?

9:07 UM, SO I WANT.

9:08 TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR

9:10 SPONSORS FOR.

9:10 FOR DOING THAT.

9:13 I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S AN.

9:14 OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EDUCATE

9:15 RESIDENTS ABOUT HOW TO PROPERLY

9:17 SEPARATE.

9:18 AND STORE FOOD WASTE SO THAT

9:21 EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS HOW TO

9:22 PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM

9:24 EFFECTIVELY CLEAR.

9:25 GUIDANCE IN OUTREACH WILL BE

9:27 CRITICAL AS WE LOOK TO EXPAND.

9:29 THE PROGRAM TO.

9:31 OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.

9:32 UM ACROSS THE CITY.

9:34 I ALSO BELIEVE PART OF THE

9:36 SOLUTION ALSO INCLUDES.

9:38 UM LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION.

9:40 ACCESS AND ENSURING THAT.

9:42 WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND THIS.

9:44 PROGRAM INTO.

9:46 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BUT ALSO.

9:48 FOCUSING ON UM, NEIGHBORHOODS

9:52 THAT.

9:53 HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN

9:56 CHALLENGING UM FOR.

9:57 THE FOR VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL.

10:01 UM CONCERNS.

10:01 SUCH AS SUCH.

10:03 AS CHINATOWN OR.

10:04 THE LEATHER DISTRICT OR.

10:05 THE.

10:05 SOUTH END AS WELL PUBLIC.

10:06 HOUSING I'M GOING TO STOP.

10:08 THERE AND.

10:11 UH.

10:12 CHIEF.

10:12 DO YOU WANT TO START.

10:14 WITH AN OPENING.

10:15 STATEMENT THEN THEN YOU CAN

10:17 PASS IT ALONG.

10:18 TO.

10:18 WHOEVER ELSE.

10:18 IN YOUR TEAM WOULD.

10:19 LIKE TO.

10:19 GIVE AN OPENING STATEMENT.

10:20 THAT SOUNDS GREAT.

10:21 UH, SO AGAIN, CHRIS OSGOOD,

10:23 GLAD TO BE HERE.

10:24 THANK YOU TO THE THREE OF YOU

10:25 FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND

10:26 PARTNERSHIP ON THIS WORK.

10:27 UM, JOINED BY CHIEF BRIAN

10:29 SWEAT, UM AND JOINED BY ABOUT A

10:31 THIRD WHO'S THE DIRECTOR

10:32 OF WASTE POLICY AND PLANNING

10:33 FOR THE CITY WANT TO GIVE A LOT

10:35 OF CODE TO AMANDA AS WELL AS

10:37 DENNIS ROACH, OUR

10:38 SUPERINTENDENT OF WASTE

10:39 REDUCTION, UH, WHO HAS DONE A

10:40 LOT OF WORK AROUND THIS.

10:42 UM, WE WERE GOING TO DO A VERY

10:44 QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR WASTE

10:45 SERVICES IN GENERAL FOOD WASTE

10:47 IN PARTICULAR SOME OF THE

10:48 CHANGES THAT COUNCILOR ZAPATA

10:49 TALKED ABOUT.

10:50 UH, AND THEN AS ALL THREE

10:51 OF YOU TOUCHED ON SORT OF THE

10:52 UM THE PATH AHEAD REALLY

10:54 STARTING WITH I CAN ADVANCE THE

10:57 SLIDE.

11:02 JUST STARTING WITH A QUICK

11:03 PICTURE OF UH OVERALL UH UH,

11:07 WASTE VOLUMES IN THE CITY

11:09 OF AUSTIN.

11:09 UM, SO THERE'S ABOUT 1.1

11:12 MILLION TONS OF WASTE THAT ARE

11:13 GENERATED IN THE CITY

11:14 OF AUSTIN.

11:14 THIS IS FROM A 2018 UH, WASTE

11:16 AUDIT.

11:17 ROUGHLY 80% OF THAT IS FROM THE

11:19 COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL UH OR

11:22 INDUSTRIAL SPACE.

11:22 SO ABOUT 20% OF THAT IS

11:23 ACTUALLY FROM OUR HOMES.

11:24 20% OF THAT IS UH, REALLY THAT

11:26 CURBSIDE COLLECTION, UH, THAT

11:28 THE CITY FOCUSES ON UH AND

11:30 DELIVERS THROUGH ITS PUBLIC

11:31 WORKS DEPARTMENT.

11:31 SO ABOUT 240,000 TONS THAT ARE

11:33 COLLECTED FROM ABOUT 250,000

11:35 HOUSEHOLDS.

11:37 UM THAT SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE

11:39 UH, EVERY UH EVERY WEEK UH,

11:42 ACROSS THE CITY UM IS UH COST

11:45 ABOUT $70 MILLION A LITTLE OVER

11:47 $70 MILLION IN OVERALL

11:48 INVESTMENT, UM, THAT THOSE

11:50 CONTRACTORS ARE IN THREE

11:51 DIFFERENT PLACES.

11:52 IT'S ABOUT $45 MILLION

11:54 OF CONTRACT COSTS ON THE

11:55 COLLECTION SIDE, THIS IS THE

11:57 ACTUAL SORT OF THE PICKUPS THAT

11:58 ARE HAPPENING OF UH OF TRASH

11:59 AND RECYCLING OF YARD WASTE

12:01 ABOUT $20 MILLION OF DISPOSAL

12:03 FOR TRASH AND RECYCLABLES THAT

12:05 GO TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT

12:06 PLACES A MATERIALS

12:08 RECOVERY FACILITY IN

12:08 CHARLESTOWN, UH, IN THE CASE

12:11 OF UH, OUR RECYCLABLES AND

12:13 SEVERAL SEVERAL WASTE ENERGY

12:14 PLANTS IN THE CASE OF OUR TRASH

12:15 AND THEN ABOUT $8 MILLION UM,

12:17 THAT FUNDS THINGS LIKE OUR FOOD

12:19 WASTE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GONNA

12:20 TALK MORE ABOUT MATTRESS

12:21 COLLECTION AND THE HOUSEHOLD

12:22 HAZARDOUS WASTE IS, UH, THAT.

12:24 THE.

12:24 TEAM RUNS, UM, ACROSS THE CITY

12:26 THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

12:27 UM, THAT IS THE FINANCIAL

12:28 PICTURE.

12:28 THIS IS LARGELY OBVIOUSLY A

12:29 CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, FOOD

12:31 WASTE.

12:31 AND AS ALL OF YOU TOUCHED ON IN

12:33 YOUR OPENING REMARKS, UM, THIS

12:34 HAS BEEN A HUGE FOCUS FOR US

12:35 REALLY SINCE OUR RELEASE OF THE

12:37 ZERO WASTE PLAN.

12:39 UH, IN UH IN 2019.

12:41 UM, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A LARGE

12:42 PART OF THE WASTE STREAM AND

12:44 THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR

12:46 UM WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THAT

12:47 IF IT IS TAKEN OUT OF THE TRASH

12:49 AND SORT OF HANDLED, UH, IN A

12:51 DIFFERENT WAY WHETHER IT IS UH

12:52 FROM A UH RODENT ABATEMENT

12:54 PERSPECTIVE OR ENVIRONMENTAL

12:55 PERSPECTIVE OR COST PERSPECTIVE

12:57 UM, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE UPPER

12:58 RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THIS SLIDE

12:59 IS A PIE CHART THAT SHOWS THE

13:02 UM, A BREAKDOWN OF WASTE THAT

13:04 IS GOING UM THAT IS COMING FROM

13:06 BOSTON GOT A SNAPSHOT FROM

13:08 ROUGHLY 2018 BUT SHOWS IN THAT

13:10 SORT OF LIGHT BLUE WEDGE THAT

13:11 ABOUT A THIRD OF WHAT WE ARE

13:13 DISPOSING IS COMPOSTABLE,

13:14 WHETHER THAT IS YARD WASTE OR

13:15 FOOD WASTE THERE'S A HUGE

13:16 OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THINGS OUT

13:17 OF THE WASTE STREAM, UM, AND

13:20 REDIRECT THEM.

13:20 AND AS BOTH OF YOU HAVE ALL

13:22 OF YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON UM THERE

13:23 ARE TWO PRINCIPAL PILOT

13:24 PROGRAMS WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING

13:25 UH, TO DO JUST THIS IN 2014 WE

13:28 LAUNCHED SOMETHING CALLED

13:29 PROJECT OSCAR UH, WHICH IS OUR

13:32 24 765 UH AVAILABLE BINS THAT

13:34 PEOPLE CAN DROP OFF FOOD WASTE

13:36 AT.

13:36 THERE'S 20 OF THOSE ACROSS THE

13:38 CITY OF BOSTON.

13:40 UH, WE COLLECT ABOUT 132 TONS,

13:42 UH, OF FOOD WASTE EVERY YEAR

13:44 THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.

13:46 UM, AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR

13:47 FEEDBACK ABOUT WHERE TO SORT

13:48 OF EXPAND OR ADJUST THAT

13:49 PROGRAM.

13:50 WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE

13:51 INTO THE.

13:51 NUMBERS IN A MOMENT.

13:52 THAT PROGRAM COSTS ABOUT

13:54 $120,000.

13:54 UM, THE OTHER PROGRAM IS OUR

13:56 CURBSIDE COLLECTION PROGRAM.

13:57 UH, THIS ONE WAS LAUNCHED IN

13:59 2022.

14:00 UM, TODAY IT SERVICES ABOUT

14:02 27,000 UH UH HOUSEHOLDS AS

14:05 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE UH SIR

14:06 REFERENCED THERE IS A WAITLIST

14:07 UH THAT WE WILL GET MORE INTO

14:09 THAT WE NOW HAVE A PATH TO BE

14:11 ABLE TO UM TO BRING EVERYBODY

14:13 WHO'S ON THE WAITLIST INTO THE

14:14 PROGRAM.

14:15 UH, AND THROUGH THAT PROGRAM

14:16 WE'RE COLLECTING AROUND 20, UH

14:18 ,2800 TONS.

14:19 ANNUALLY OF FOOD WASTE.

14:20 UM, SO A SIGNIFICANT

14:22 OPPORTUNITY UM, AND A

14:23 SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN THOSE

14:24 PROGRAMS.

14:25 THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A QUICK

14:27 UH, SNAPSHOT OF THE GROWTH THAT

14:28 WE'VE SEEN IN THE CURBSIDE

14:30 COLLECTION PROGRAM AGAIN,

14:31 STARTED WITH ABOUT 10,000

14:32 ENROLLED UH PARTICIPATING UH

14:34 HOUSEHOLDS UH, IN UH IN 2022

14:39 CLIMBED UP TO UH HIGH POINT

14:41 OF UH 28,000 ENROLLED.

14:43 WE DID NOTICE THAT A NUMBER

14:45 OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE

14:45 ENROLLED ACTUALLY WEREN'T USING

14:46 THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHY WE

14:47 ARE NOW DOWN AT UM 2700 OR

14:51 27,000 PARTICIPATING HOUSEHOLDS

14:52 OUT OF THE ENTIRETY OF 200,000

14:54 HOUSEHOLDS WE SERVE IN THE CITY

14:55 OF BOSTON, UM FOR TRASH AND

14:57 RECYCLING SERVICES.

14:59 UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE A WAITLIST

15:00 RIGHT NOW OF ABOUT 1600 UH, IN

15:03 OUR CITY UM, ON THE LEFT YOU.

15:05 SEE, UM, THE.

15:06 ROUGH BREAKDOWN OF ENROLLMENT,

15:08 UM, IN OUR CURBSIDE COLLECTION

15:10 PROGRAM BY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH,

15:11 WITH DORCHESTER AND JAMAICA

15:13 PLAIN.

15:13 AS THE.

15:14 TWO LARGEST PARTICIPATING UH,

15:15 NEIGHBORS.

15:16 THESE NUMBERS ARE INCREDIBLY

15:18 SMALL, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE

15:19 GET THE, UH, THE DECK TO ALL

15:21 OF THESE OR SEE WHAT THAT

15:22 BREAKDOWN LOOKS LIKE.

15:24 UH, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT.

15:26 YOU CAN SEE.

15:27 UM, THE TONNAGE THAT WE ARE

15:28 COLLECTING UM, BY NEIGHBORHOOD

15:30 UH, THROUGH THE PROJECT OSCAR

15:31 PROGRAM, UH, WITH A FAIR AMOUNT

15:34 OF PEOPLE COMING FROM UH,

15:35 JAMAICA PLAIN, THE SOUTH END

15:37 OF THE NORTH END, UM, AS WELL

15:38 AS UH FROM CHARLESTOWN UM, AS

15:41 WE ARE UH, COLLECTING THIS WE

15:45 WANT TO MAKE SURE AS ALL OF YOU

15:46 REFERENCED, UM, THAT WE ARE

15:48 TAKING THIS TO LOCATIONS THAT

15:50 ARE UM, UH IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE

15:53 THE ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE OF THE

15:55 FOOD WASTE AND WE ARE DOING

15:56 THAT IN SOME CASES BUT THERE'S

15:57 PROGRESS CERTAINLY FOR US TO

15:58 MAKE UH, IN THIS REGARD.

16:01 SO FOR PROJECT OSCAR, ALL 132

16:03 TOWNS THAT WE COLLECT, UM, ARE

16:05 HANDLED BY OUR PARTNER, UH,

16:07 CALLED BLACK EARTH, UH, WHO

16:09 TAKE.

16:10 THE UH.

16:11 THE FOOD WASTE, UM, ESSENTIALLY

16:13 TO OUR COMPOSTING FACILITY, UH,

16:15 IN THE NORTH SHORE, UH, TO BE

16:17 CONVERTED INTO COMPOST THAT CAN

16:18 BE USED FOR IT AS A HIGH

16:19 QUALITY, UM, SOIL ADDITIVE UH

16:23 UH, FOR UH FOR HOUSEHOLDS UM.

16:26 THE LARGEST SOURCE OF FOOD

16:29 WASTE FOR US THOUGH IS

16:30 OBVIOUSLY THE CURBSIDE

16:30 COLLECTION PROGRAM AT ABOUT

16:33 2800 TONS ANNUALLY.

16:35 UM, OF THAT 2800 TONS A PORTION

16:37 OF IT DOES GO TO COMPOSTING.

16:38 THIS AGAIN IS OF THE HIGHER

16:40 QUALITY UM UH OUTPUT FROM FOOD

16:43 WASTE ABOUT 15 TO 20% OF IT IS

16:45 TAKEN TO A A DIFFERENT UH,

16:46 NORTH SHORE COMPOSTING

16:48 FACILITY.

16:48 BUT 80 TO 85% OF IT IS ACTUALLY

16:51 CO-MINGLED AT UM THE UH GREATER

16:53 LAWRENCE UH, SANITARY DISTRICT

16:55 WITH UM, UH WITH WASTEWATER AND

16:57 THROUGH AN ANAEROBIC DIGESTION

17:00 DIGESTED UH DIGESTION FACILITY

17:02 UH, IN THERE THE VAST MAJORITY

17:04 OF IT IS CONVERTED INTO BIOGAS

17:05 AND SOME UM PORTION OF IT ABOUT

17:08 ANOTHER 15% BECOMES DIGESTED

17:10 WHICH CAN BE ADDED AS A

17:12 FERTILIZER.

17:12 UM AND.

17:13 ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK A

17:14 LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS THAT

17:15 WE ARE INTERESTED IN IS FINDING

17:16 A WAY TO WORK WITH OTHER

17:18 MUNICIPALITIES AND ACROSS THE

17:18 COMMONWEALTH TO EXPAND THE

17:20 COMPOSTING CAPACITY, UH, WHICH

17:22 IS UH TO SOME DEGREE A

17:24 LIMITATION ON UH HOW MUCH WE

17:26 CAN EXPAND THE PROGRAM TOWARDS

17:28 TAKING FOOD WASTE AND

17:30 DELIVERING UH, ACTUAL COMPOST

17:31 AS A RESULT OF IT.

17:33 UM, TO QUICKLY TALK ABOUT SORT

17:34 OF HOW WE'VE BEEN.

17:35 UH.

17:36 COMMUNICATING THESE PROGRAMS

17:37 AND THIS BILL IS

17:38 COUNCILOR FLYNN OFF OF UH.

17:39 A COMMENT THAT YOU MADE UM.

17:41 THE A LOT OF TO HAVE TO GO AND

17:43 A LOT OF CREDIT TO THE WASTE

17:44 REDUCTION TEAM.

17:45 THERE'S BEEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT

17:45 OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH UM, BOTH.

17:49 ON THE MBTA SORT OF.

17:50 IN UH IN COMMUNITIES.

17:51 AND ONLINE INCLUDING.

17:53 UH TRANSLATING THE MATERIALS UH

17:55 INTO UH FIVE DIFFERENT

17:56 LANGUAGES SO THAT WE ARE

17:57 EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF UH OUR

17:59 CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE AWARE

18:00 OF AND CAPITAL SPENT IN UH IN.

18:02 THE.

18:02 PROGRAM OVERALL.

18:06 UM, ONE OF THE THINGS.

18:07 THAT WE HAVE.

18:08 HEARD UH, SORT OF LOUD AND

18:09 CLEAR IS THAT UH, THERE IS A.

18:11 WAITLIST OF.

18:12 PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE ABLE

18:13 TO JOIN.

18:13 THE CURBSIDE COMPOSTING PROGRAM

18:14 .

18:15 THAT IS WHY, UM, WE ARE

18:17 SWITCHING THE, UH, CORE REASON

18:18 WHY WE ARE SWITCHING THE.

18:20 WEEKLY PROGRAM TO A BIWEEKLY

18:22 PROGRAM IN OCTOBER UM, STARTING

18:24 ON OCTOBER 5TH.

18:25 BY GOING FROM WEEKLY TO BY

18:26 WEEKLY.

18:27 IT HAS SEVERAL ELEMENTS THAT

18:29 WHICH UH CAN.

18:30 BE ADVANTAGEOUS ONE IT ALLOWS

18:32 US TO BE ABLE TO.

18:33 ACTUALLY HAVE.

18:34 EVERYBODY WHO'S ON THE.

18:34 WAITLIST.

18:35 UM, BE.

18:36 ABLE.

18:37 TO UH, ENROLL IN THE PROGRAM.

18:38 SECOND ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE

18:39 EXPAND THE CAPACITY SO WE

18:41 ACTUALLY CAN GO BEYOND THE

18:42 WAITLIST TO ADD ADDITIONAL

18:43 ENROLLEES, UH, ACROSS THE CITY

18:44 OF BOSTON.

18:45 UM, THAT WILL EXPAND US FROM

18:48 2800 2700 TO.

18:50 UM IDEALLY.

18:50 NUMBERS WHICH ARE FAR BEYOND

18:52 THE WHAT THE CURRENT PILOT HAS

18:53 AND GET US A HIGHER PERCENTAGE

18:55 OF OVERALL HOUSEHOLDS IN BOSTON

18:56 THAT ARE ENROLLED.

18:57 IT ALSO SORT OF BETTER MATCHES

18:58 WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING.

18:59 ON THE STREET.

19:01 SO UH, GARBAGE REGARDLESS WHO

19:02 IS OUR TERRIFIC CONTRACTOR FOR

19:03 THAT PROGRAM.

19:05 IS SEEING THAT.

19:05 ROUGHLY 70% OF THE GREEN.

19:07 BINS THAT.

19:07 YOU HAVE ALL REFERENCED ARE

19:08 SORT OF OUT THERE, UH, PICKUP

19:10 TIME NOT.

19:11 EVERYBODY IS USING UH THE UH

19:13 THE PICKUP INS.

19:15 UH EVERY SINGLE WEEK.

19:16 AND SO BY GOING TO BI WEEKLY WE

19:18 PROBABLY.

19:18 BETTER MATCH THE WAY IN WHICH

19:19 THE SERVICE HAS.

19:20 ACTUALLY BEEN USED.

19:21 AND IN ADDITION TO HAVE FEWER

19:23 VEHICLES NECESSARILY DRIVING ON

19:24 CITY STREETS FOR PICKUP DURING

19:25 UH DURING COLLECTION DAYS, UM,

19:28 YOU ACHIEVE THAT BALANCE.

19:29 WE ALSO UH.

19:30 THROUGH.

19:31 THIS UH.

19:31 SWITCH SAVE ABOUT $7,000

19:33 OF OVERALL COSTS UH, IN THE

19:34 PROGRAM WHICH IS ANOTHER

19:35 IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR US.

19:37 UM, WHAT THIS WILL.

19:39 ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE UH, IS.

19:41 ESSENTIALLY HAVING.

19:41 THE COLLECTION SCHEDULE.

19:43 UM, BE.

19:44 IN TWO DIFFERENT ZONES UH.

19:45 WILL BE.

19:46 UM ZONE A WHICH WILL.

19:47 HAVE A.

19:48 COLLECTION UH, ITS BIWEEKLY

19:49 COLLECTION.

19:50 SCHEDULE STARTING ON

19:51 OCTOBER 5TH BETWEEN NOW AND

19:52 OCTOBER 5TH IT WILL REMAIN ON

19:54 WEEKLY SCHEDULE.

19:55 UM ESSENTIALLY THAT ZONE THAT

19:57 YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WOULD

19:59 HAVE UH A COLLECTION ON.

20:01 OCTOBER 5TH A WEEK.

20:03 OF.

20:03 OCTOBER 5TH AND THEN THE WEEK

20:04 OF OCTOBER 19TH.

20:05 UH, AND THEN STARTING.

20:06 UH THE WEEK OF OCTOBER.

20:08 12TH OF A WEEKLY SCHEDULE

20:09 FOR.

20:09 THE ZOMBIE UH, WOULD.

20:10 START THERE'S.

20:11 BEEN.

20:11 A HUGE AMOUNT OF UM

20:13 COMMUNICATION WHICH HAS STARTED

20:14 AND MORE.

20:15 TO.

20:15 COME UH, TO UH INDIVIDUALS WHO

20:17 ARE.

20:17 ENROLLED IN THIS PROGRAM.

20:19 UH, THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE.

20:21 UH DIRECT OUTREACH AT

20:23 RESIDENCES UH.

20:24 DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS.

20:25 WHICH HAVE ALREADY STARTED

20:26 UH AND MORE TO COME AND WE

20:27 CERTAINLY WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK

20:28 AND IDEAS AND APPRECIATE THIS

20:29 HEARING AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

20:31 US TO COMMUNICATE THIS PROBABLY

20:32 TO UH TO CONSTITUENTS.

20:35 UM, ONE TWO OTHER BITS

20:37 OF CONTEXT WHICH.

20:38 UH.

20:38 DEFINITELY BOTH UH CHIEF

20:39 SWEAT AND ABOUT TO PLEASE FEEL

20:41 FREE TO UM.

20:42 UH ADD HERE.

20:43 UM ONE THING WHICH IS.

20:45 I THINK IMPORTANT LONGER

20:46 TERM CONTEXT.

20:47 AS.

20:47 WE LOOK.

20:47 AT THIS.

20:48 PROGRAM IS THAT.

20:49 MASTER DPI UM.

20:49 HAS BEEN.

20:50 LOOKING AT A SERIES OF UH

20:52 OF WAISTBANDS UM, LOOKING AT UH

20:54 PRINCIPALLY RIGHT NOW UM.

20:56 A UM.

20:57 COMMERCIAL FOOD WASTE.

20:58 UM, BUT THEY HAVE.

20:59 SIGNALED THEY WOULD EXPECT.

21:01 TO THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL.

21:02 UH.

21:02 FOOD WAISTBAND THAT THAT

21:04 COULD COME INTO.

21:05 UH INTO PLAY UM.

21:06 NOT BEFORE.

21:07 2028.

21:08 IMPORTANTLY WE ACTUALLY UH.

21:10 THROUGH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE

21:11 HAVE ALREADY.

21:12 UH UH, ALREADY OUTLINED UH.

21:14 WE ARE ACTUALLY.

21:15 UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE

21:17 WOULD EXPECT DPI.

21:18 TO PROMULGATE IN 2028.

21:20 SO WE ARE SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD

21:21 OF UM OF WHAT THE WHAT.

21:24 WE'VE PUT IN PLACE AND HAVE

21:25 BASICALLY BEEN.

21:25 IN.

21:26 COMPLIANCE SINCE 2022 SINCE THE

21:27 START OF OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM.

21:29 ALL RIGHT LAST QUICK SLIDE.

21:31 UM AND PROBABLY TURN IT OVER TO

21:32 MY FELLOW PANELISTS FOR ANY UH,

21:34 ADDITIONS AND CORRECTIONS AND

21:35 TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.

21:36 UM.

21:37 AS WE.

21:38 LOOK AT WHAT'S AHEAD,

21:38 THERE'S SORT OF THREE AREAS

21:39 THAT WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON.

21:41 ONE IS UNDERSTANDING SORT

21:42 OF HOW ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE

21:44 WE CAN.

21:45 CONTINUE TO.

21:46 EXPAND ENROLLMENT AS ALL OF YOU

21:47 SPOKE.

21:48 ABOUT INCREASED.

21:48 TONNAGE AND INCREASE

21:50 UTILIZATION.

21:50 AND IN THE NEAR TERM THAT'S

21:52 GOING TO.

21:52 BE A FOCUS ON.

21:54 UH LOOKING AT UH, HOW THE

21:55 SERVICE CHANGE HAS ALLOWED US

21:57 TO DO OR IMPACTED THOSE THREE

21:58 THINGS.

21:59 HAVE WE ACTUALLY ENROLLED MORE

22:01 UH, CONSTITUENTS?

22:02 WE BELIEVE THIS.

22:02 IS A CLEAR PATH TO DO THAT.

22:03 WILL THAT ALLOW US TO EXPAND

22:05 TONNAGE?

22:05 DOES THAT BETTER MATCH THE

22:06 ACTUAL SERVE FREQUENCY

22:08 OF PICKUP.

22:08 WITH THE USE OF THE PROGRAM?

22:09 THE SECOND THING WHICH IS

22:11 IMPORTANT.

22:11 AND UH CHIEF, SO I CAN TALK

22:13 MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I CAN

22:15 BUT UH, THIS IS.

22:16 ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO

22:17 THINK.

22:18 ABOUT ALL OF THOSE PARTS OF OUR

22:19 WASTE STREAM, UH, THAT ARE NOT

22:21 FROM RESIDENTS AGAIN, 80%

22:22 OF THE TRASH RECYCLING.

22:24 FOOD WASTE.

22:25 IS GENERATED.

22:26 THE CITY OF BOSTON IS

22:27 INSTITUTIONAL OR COMMERCIAL OR

22:28 INDUSTRIAL.

22:30 UM AND THERE ARE PATHS THINGS

22:31 LIKE FOOD RECOVERY AS WELL AS

22:33 UH FOOD WASTE COLLECTION UH

22:35 THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO

22:36 FOCUS ON IN ADDITION TO OUR

22:37 RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS AS WE

22:38 THINK ABOUT THE CHALLENGE IN

22:39 FRONT OF US.

22:40 THE THIRD THING WHICH IS A

22:41 REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT

22:42 OF THIS.

22:42 PROGRAM IS THAT.

22:43 A REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT

22:44 OF OUR WORK GOING FORWARD IS

22:45 THINK ABOUT HOW WE JUST EXPAND

22:46 CAPACITY.

22:47 IN OUR REGION AND IN THE

22:48 COMMONWEALTH, UM, TO.

22:50 BE ABLE TO HANDLE FOOD.

22:51 WASTE.

22:52 UH, AND FOOD WASTE

22:53 COMPOSTING KNOWING THAT THAT IS

22:54 A PRIORITY AS AN OUTCOME FOR UH

22:56 FOOD.

22:57 WASTE THAT WE COLLECT.

22:58 WE DO KNOW THAT WE NEED

22:59 ADDITIONAL.

22:59 CAPACITY WITHIN THE REGION OR

23:01 WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH TO BE

23:02 ABLE TO HANDLE COLLECTION

23:03 OF COLLECTION DOES INCREASE

23:04 ACROSS ALL THE SECTORS.

23:06 UM, SO THAT I WILL TURN

23:07 EVERYONE TO FELLOW PANELISTS IN

23:08 CASE THERE IS ANYTHING TO.

23:09 CORRECT OR ADD AND.

23:10 UH THEN TURN IT OVER TO ALL.

23:12 OF YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS

23:12 COMMENTS.

23:14 UM THAT WAS GREAT US I JUST HAD

23:15 A COUPLE ITEMS ONE WHAT WE ARE

23:17 FINDING AND EVOLVING AND GIVE

23:19 DETAILS UH, ON OTHER

23:20 COMMUNITIES.

23:21 IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT ARE

23:22 PROVIDING UH CURBSIDE FOOD

23:23 WASTE RECOVERY IS THAT EVERY

23:24 OTHER WEEK IS THE NORM.

23:26 UM AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS

23:28 OBVIOUSLY WE LAUNCHED THIS AS A

23:30 PILOT WE WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY

23:31 PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO

23:32 PARTICIPATE.

23:33 UH, THIS IS THE TREND THAT

23:34 WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE

23:35 COMMONWEALTH IS THAT THAT'S THE

23:37 RIGHT CADENCE.

23:37 UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I

23:39 THINK UM, THIS REALLY THIS NEAR

23:42 TERM AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT

23:43 LONGER TERM BUT THIS NEAR-TERM

23:44 SHIFT REALLY CHECKS A LOT

23:45 OF REALLY IMPORTANT BOXES.

23:46 UH, IS THAT THE LAST THING WE

23:48 WANT IS SORT OF, UM, LARGE FOOD

23:50 WASTE TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH

23:51 NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING FOR BANDS

23:52 TO PICK UP.

23:53 UH, IT CAUSES TRAFFIC, IT

23:54 CAUSES EMISSIONS.

23:55 IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY

23:56 RECOVERING FOOD WASTE.

23:57 SO THIS THIS SHIFT TO EVERY

23:59 OTHER WEEK ALLOWS US TO PICK UP

24:01 MORE FOOD WASTE, ADD MORE

24:02 HOUSEHOLDS, SAVE MONEY, UH, AND

24:05 HAVE FEWER TRUCKS ON THE STREET

24:06 LIKE IN HALF OF MANY TRUCKS,

24:07 YOU KNOW, ON THE STREET AT A

24:09 GIVEN TIME IN THIS ENVIRONMENT

24:11 THAT WE'RE IN THAT IS A LOT

24:12 OF WINS.

24:13 UM, THIS IS NOT THE LONG TERM

24:15 SOLUTION FOR FOOD WASTE

24:17 RECOVERY AND DIVERSION FOR

24:18 BOSTON.

24:18 WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

24:19 SO LIKE WE WANT TO FIND WAYS

24:21 OF GETTING HIGHER AND BETTER

24:22 USE PRODUCTS OUT OF THIS.

24:23 AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE

24:25 HAVE RECOGNIZED IS THAT BOSTON

24:26 ALONE IN TERMS OF THIS, YOU

24:27 KNOW, 2800 TONS A YEAR IS TOO

24:30 BIG A SCALE OF AN AMOUNT TO

24:31 GROW TO COMPOST AND NOT ENOUGH

24:33 COMPOSTING FACILITIES THAT ARE

24:34 WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON.

24:36 AND SO WE NEED TO START

24:37 THINKING CREATIVELY BOTH WITH

24:38 THE STATE ABOUT BRINGING THE

24:40 SECTOR YOU KNOW, THE COMPOSTING

24:41 SECTOR UP TO SCALE UH, AS THE

24:43 STATE PROCEEDS, UM, WITH FOOD

24:45 WASTE RECOVERY REQUIREMENTS AS

24:47 WELL AS THINKING CREATIVELY

24:48 ABOUT MAYBE WE HAVE A

24:49 COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT YOU PUT

24:51 OUT TO BID, BUT IT'S GOING TO

24:53 MULTIPLE.

24:53 AND DROP.

24:54 OFF POINTS THAT ARE SMALLER

24:55 IN SCALE THAT ACTUALLY CAN TURN

24:56 THIS INTO COMPOSTING.

24:57 UH, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS AS

24:59 CHRIS MENTIONED, UM, MOST

25:00 OF THE FOOD WASTE WE'RE

25:01 COLLECTING 85% OF THAT FOOD

25:03 WASTE IS GOING TO UH, ANAEROBIC

25:05 DIGESTION THAT IS THE SAME AS

25:07 IF FOLKS IN BOSTON HAD GROUND

25:09 IT UP IN AN INCINERATOR AND

25:10 SENT IT TO THEIR OWN.

25:12 UM, AND THAT'S GREAT THAT

25:13 ENERGY IS USED AT YOUR ISLAND

25:15 AND THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S THE

25:16 SAME DIGESTATE THAT GOES OUT

25:17 AND THEN THAT CAN BE USED AS A

25:18 NON UM A NON-FOOD PRODUCT, UM

25:20 EQUITABLE LAND.

25:21 UH, BUT LIKE YOU KNOW THE IDEA

25:23 SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO

25:24 THINK THAT WE ARE SATISFIED

25:25 THAT THE IDEA OF LIKE TRUCKING

25:26 85% OF THE WASTE TO A DIFFERENT

25:28 ANAEROBIC DIGESTION IS A LONG

25:29 TERM SOLUTION WHEN YOU KNOW,

25:31 GRINDING IT UP IN YOUR

25:32 INCINERATOR IS THE SAME THING

25:33 NOW AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WANT

25:35 TO FIND COMPOST SOLUTIONS UM,

25:37 GOING FORWARD.

25:38 SO THIS IS THE RIGHT IN MY

25:40 OPINION IS SORT OF THE

25:40 ENVIRONMENTAL CHIEF.

25:41 THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE AT THIS

25:42 POINT IN TIME TO MAKE THIS

25:43 PARTICULAR PROGRAM MORE

25:44 EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.

25:45 UM, AND CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES

25:46 WHILE WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE

25:48 UH, HOW DO WE EXPAND THIS

25:50 INDUSTRY TO SCALE UH, SO THAT

25:52 REALLY MORE OF THIS FOOD WASTE

25:53 IS UM, YOU KNOW, IS COMING BACK

25:55 TO BOSTON.

25:55 THE SECOND ITEM MIGHT HIGHLIGHT

25:57 AND THANK YOU CHRIS RETURNING

25:58 THIS THIS IS PART OF IT.

25:59 THERE'S THE THERE'S THE WASTE

26:01 MANAGEMENT PLAN OF THIS WHICH

26:02 WE OBVIOUSLY PRESENTED.

26:03 AND THEN THERE'S THE UH FOOD

26:06 CIRCULARITY END OF THIS WHICH I

26:07 WANT TO HIGHLIGHT LIKE WE ARE

26:08 WORKING REALLY HARD AS AN

26:09 ADMINISTRATION AS A CITY TO

26:10 MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MUCH OF A

26:12 HEALTHY AND NUTRITIOUS FOOD

26:13 THAT'S COMING INTO BOSTON IS

26:15 GETTING TO FOLKS WHO NEED IT.

26:16 AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER

26:17 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND I

26:18 THINK I SAW ALL OF YOU UH, AT

26:20 VARIOUS RIBBON CUTTINGS AND

26:21 OPENINGS AT THE UH AT THE UM

26:23 COLD STORAGE FACILITY, UH, YOU

26:24 KNOW, A NEW MARKET WHERE WE ARE

26:26 NOW, UM, SUPPORTING MILLIONS

26:28 OF MEALS A YEAR WITH.

26:30 RECOVERED FOOD.

26:31 COMING INTO A COLD STORAGE

26:32 FACILITY THAT THE CITY HELPED

26:33 FUND WITH ARPA FUNDING AND THEN

26:34 GOING OUT TO OUR RETAIL

26:35 DISTRIBUTION, UH, TO FOOD

26:37 PANTRIES AND SOUP KITCHENS.

26:38 THAT TO ME IS THE HIGHEST MASS

26:40 USE OF FOOD IS MAKING SURE THAT

26:42 AS LITTLE OF IT AS POSSIBLE IS

26:43 ENTERING OUR WASTE STREAM AS

26:44 MUCH OF IT AS POSSIBLE IS

26:45 GETTING TO FOLKS WHO NEED IT.

26:47 AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY

26:48 THE SCRAPS AND THE THINGS THAT

26:49 YOU DO NEED UM, YOU KNOW, THAT

26:50 DO GET THROWN OUT.

26:51 HOW DO WE AVOID THAT GOING TO

26:53 UH, TRADITIONAL GARBAGE.

26:54 SO UH, WE'RE SPENDING AS MUCH

26:55 TIME THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WE

26:57 CONTINUE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES

26:58 IN FOOD RECOVERY.

27:01 UM, AND THE OTHER THING I WANT

27:03 TO ADD.

27:03 HERE WAS UM, THE UH.

27:06 COMPOSTING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM,

27:09 WE HAVE SMALL FARMS THAT CAN

27:10 ACCEPT, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED

27:12 TONS EVERY WEEK WHICH IS MORE

27:14 THAN WHAT THE UH WHAT THE

27:15 PASTIES RIGHT NOW.

27:16 BUT THE BIGGER CHALLENGE WITH

27:17 EXPANDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE

27:19 IS.

27:19 THAT SITING.

27:20 AND PERMITTING IS A BIG

27:22 CHALLENGE BEING IN

27:23 NEIGHBORHOODS WHETHER

27:25 RESIDENTIAL UM HOUSING.

27:27 IT'S HARD TO HAVE THAT WITH

27:29 ORDERS.

27:29 A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES JUST

27:30 KIND OF HINDER EXPANDING

27:32 COMPOSTING FACILITIES WITHIN

27:34 AND CLOSE TO THE CITY.

27:35 AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGER

27:36 REASONS WHY.

27:38 A LOT.

27:38 OF OUR.

27:39 UH, TONNAGE CANNOT GO TO

27:40 COMPOST.

27:41 UM, THE OTHER PART.

27:44 IS THAT.

27:44 IF YOU WANT TO SCALE UP VERY

27:46 RAPIDLY AND EATING FACILITIES

27:48 MORE EASILY ABLE TO TAKE THE

27:51 FOOD WASTE ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S

27:53 A WHOLE EDUCATION ANGLE WHERE

27:54 WE NEED TO TELL RESIDENTS HOW

27:56 TO SEPARATE WHAT.

27:57 TO PUT.

27:58 WHAT NOT TO PUT LIKE SMALL

27:59 STICKERS THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR

28:01 FOOD ARE CALLED CONTAMINANTS.

28:03 THE FACILITY WOULD DEGRADE BUT

28:05 THE COMPOST FACILITY HAS TO

28:06 MAINTAIN ITS STANDARDS FOR PFAS

28:09 CONTAMINATION SO THEY ARE VERY

28:10 WARY OF TAKING.

28:11 STUFF LIKE THAT.

28:12 SO ALL OF THIS KIND OF NEEDS

28:13 TO GO HAND IN HAND TO MAKE SURE

28:14 THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET IT TO A

28:16 POINT WHERE WE REALLY WANT OUR

28:17 FOOD WASTE TO END UP AND

28:19 BECOME, UH.

28:19 A FINAL PRODUCT.

28:24 THANK YOU.

28:26 WE WE WERE ALSO JOINED.

28:28 BY COUNCILOR MURPHY AND

28:30 COUNCILOR.

28:30 FITZGERALD AS WELL.

28:32 I DO HAVE AN ABSENCE LETTER.

28:33 THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO

28:35 THE RECORD.

28:36 DO YOU HAVE CHAIR FLYNN?

28:38 MR CLERK COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

28:40 I.

28:40 REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT I AM

28:41 UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS MORNING'S

28:43 COMMITTEE ON.

28:44 CITY SERVICES HEARING.

28:45 UM, ON ON.

28:48 DOCKET 0773 OR FOR A HEARING TO

28:51 DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE CITY

28:52 OF BOSTON'S CURBSIDE FOOD

28:54 WASTE.

28:54 PROGRAM.

28:55 I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH

28:57 ADDITIONAL.

28:57 QUESTIONS UPON REVIEWING MY.

28:58 STAFF NOTES IN WATCHING THE

29:00 RECORDING.

29:00 PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO

29:01 CONTACT MY OFFICE WITH ANY

29:03 QUESTIONS.

29:05 COUNCILOR PEPEN FROM DISTRICT

29:07 FIVE.

29:10 UM AT THIS TIME I DO WANT.

29:12 TO.

29:12 GIVE EACH COUNCIL COLLEAGUE THE

29:14 .

29:15 OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS TO

29:17 THE PANEL.

29:18 UM, FOR THIS ROUND I'LL GIVE UM

29:21 I'LL GIVE.

29:22 SIX MINUTES AND I'M GOING TO

29:23 START WITH COUNCILOR COLLETTA.

29:26 SUPPORT COUNCIL CALL IT AS A

29:27 PARENT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

29:28 THANK YOU CHAIR AND I WANT TO

29:30 THANK THE PANEL FOR THEIR

29:31 PRESENTATION.

29:31 I'M SO SORRY.

29:32 UH, CHIEF, I TOTALLY

29:35 SORRY YOU'RE NO LONGER DIRECTOR

29:36 INTERIM CHIEF.

29:36 SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.

29:38 UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK

29:39 ON THIS AND FOR THE REALLY, UM,

29:41 ENLIGHTENING, UH, PRESENTATION

29:42 THAT YOU HAVE.

29:43 UM, SO THIS IS I MEAN, OVERALL

29:45 IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A REALLY

29:46 GOOD THING.

29:47 I THINK THIS IS, UH, A GOOD

29:48 EXAMPLE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT IN

29:50 ACTION.

29:51 SO WE TOOK TIME TO IMPLEMENT

29:52 THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE

29:53 GETTING IT RIGHT.

29:54 BUT THIS IS A GOOD AGAIN

29:56 EXAMPLE OF BEING ABLE TO PIVOT

29:57 AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WORKING

29:58 WHAT ISN'T WORKING.

30:00 UM, NOT ONLY WILL BE WILL WE BE

30:02 ABLE TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE BUT

30:04 ACTUALLY GETTING MORE PEOPLE

30:05 OFF THE WAITLIST?

30:06 THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST

30:07 SAVINGS THERE OF WHAT WAS IT

30:09 $700,000 FOR THE PROGRAM.

30:11 UM, AND THERE'S ALSO GOING TO

30:12 BE LESS TRUCKS ON THE STREET ON

30:14 A WEEKLY BASIS WHICH TRANSLATES

30:16 TO I GUESS THIS IS MY FIRST

30:17 QUESTION HOW MUCH UH,

30:20 CARBON EMISSIONS THAT WILL BE.

30:21 UM.

30:21 POTENTIALLY TAKING OUT

30:22 OF THE AIR THAT WE BREATHE ON A

30:24 WEEKLY BASIS.

30:24 YOU KNOW, I MEAN.

30:26 WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE

30:27 TRANSPORTATION IT'S CUTTING IT

30:28 IN HALF BUT YOU KNOW, A LITTLE

30:30 BIT LESS THAN HALF BECAUSE

30:30 WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING PEOPLE

30:31 OFF THE WAITLIST IF NOT

30:32 EXISTING ROUTES.

30:33 THAT'S NOT ADDING IT BUT THERE

30:34 MAY BE NEW ROUTES WHICH WOULD

30:35 BE GREAT.

30:36 UM I THINK THE THE

30:38 CARBON EMISSIONS FOR THE THIS

30:39 AGGREGATE PROGRAM JUST TO SORT

30:40 OF PUT THIS IN CONTEXT THE

30:42 CARBON EMISSIONS OF OF WASTE IN

30:43 BOSTON DOESN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE

30:44 FROM BOSTON'S AGGREGATE

30:46 EMISSIONS.

30:46 WE ARE STILL ENTIRELY DRIVEN BY

30:48 BUILDINGS ARE TWO THIRDS OF OUR

30:49 EMISSIONS IN BOSTON AND

30:51 TRANSPORTATION IS BASICALLY THE

30:52 REST.

30:53 UM, SO UH IT'S A GREAT QUESTION

30:55 WE'RE ASKING A PROGRAM OF THIS

30:56 SIZE JUST DOESN'T HAVE THAT

30:58 SCALE.

30:58 WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED

30:59 ABOUT IS THE LOCAL EMISSIONS

31:01 OF TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH

31:03 COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.

31:04 YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LARGELY

31:06 DIESEL TRUCKS.

31:06 SO THE CARBON EMISSIONS IS SORT

31:08 OF A WASH IN A PROGRAM LIKE

31:09 THIS.

31:09 BUT THE LOCAL EMISSIONS IN

31:10 TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE

31:11 BREATHING AND THEN I HAVE THE

31:13 SAME EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, UM,

31:14 UH WALKING ON MONDAY OR MONDAY

31:16 PICKUP WHEN I'M WALKING WITH MY

31:17 KIDS, YOU KNOW, TO TO THE BUS

31:19 STOP WE'RE BREATHING IN

31:20 WHATEVER WE'RE BREATHING IN IN

31:21 THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT

31:22 PARTICULAR TIME.

31:22 AND SO THE FEWER TRUCKS THAT WE

31:24 HAVE YOU KNOW, IN MORNING

31:25 PICKUP THAT'S A GOOD THING IN

31:27 PARTICULAR IS WE CAN EXPAND THE

31:28 PROGRAM.

31:29 AND SO WE'RE SERVING 2700

31:31 HOUSEHOLDS TODAY THERE'S 1600

31:33 ON THE WAITLIST.

31:34 HOW MANY DO I.

31:35 DO IN FACT 27,000.

31:37 27,000 OKAY.

31:38 .

31:39 SO WE'RE SERVING ABOUT 10%

31:40 OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN BOSTON

31:42 CURRENTLY.

31:43 SO 27,000 CURRENTLY BEING

31:44 SERVICED AND THEN THERE'S 1600

31:45 ON THE WAITLIST AND WE

31:47 ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE

31:48 TO NOW SERVE ALL OF THEM YES.

31:49 ON THE WAITLIST OKAY.

31:50 DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING BY

31:52 WEEKLY IF MORE PEOPLE FIGURE

31:54 OUT OH THEY'RE EXPANDING THE

31:55 PROGRAM, HOW ARE WE ABLE TO

31:57 MAYBE EVEN EXPAND ON THAT?

31:59 IS THERE EVEN A LIMIT UM BEYOND

32:01 THE 1600 THAT THAT ARE

32:02 CURRENTLY ON THE WAITLIST?

32:03 UM, WE HAVE A PROJECTION FROM

32:05 OUR VENDOR UH, THAT IS BUDGETED

32:07 IN OUR CONTRACT UM BASIS HOW

32:09 MUCH WE RECEIVED IN THE

32:10 WAITLIST LAST YEAR.

32:11 SO 1600 IN THE LAST YEAR WE

32:13 HAVE DOUBLE.

32:13 THE.

32:14 CAPACITY AVAILABLE BEYOND THE

32:16 WAITLIST IF IT WAS TO GROW, UH

32:18 ,SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER

32:19 ANYBODY OVER AND ABOVE THE

32:21 WAITLIST IF THEY WANTED TO

32:22 BECOME PART OF THE PROGRAM.

32:23 FOR THIS YEAR.

32:24 WE HAVE.

32:25 FLAHERTY FOR THIS YEAR.

32:26 THAT'S GREAT.

32:26 AND YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT UM

32:28 OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION IN

32:30 DISTRICT ONE.

32:31 WE WE LOVE THE BENEFITS OF THIS

32:32 PROGRAM.

32:33 WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECT OSCAR

32:34 BIDS AND SO IF FOLKS HAVE

32:36 THEORETICALLY FOOD WASTE IN THE

32:38 INTERIM UM, BETWEEN WEEKS

32:40 THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO

32:41 DROP THEM OFF AT PROJECT OSCAR.

32:42 UM, HOW HOW ARE YOU

32:44 COMMUNICATING THIS TO

32:45 RESIDENTS?

32:46 IS IT HAPPENING IN MULTIPLE

32:48 LANGUAGES?

32:49 UM IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE

32:50 CAN DO AS COUNSELORS TO HELP

32:51 GET THE WORD OUT.

32:52 WITHOUT TO HEAR FROM YOU ON

32:53 THAT.

32:54 WE HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNICATION

32:55 DOCKET THAT IS.

32:56 GOING OUT MULTIPLE EMAILS GOING

32:58 FROM THE WINDOW.

32:58 OUR WEBSITES ARE UPDATED.

33:00 WE HAD UM A.

33:01 VERY THOROUGH FAQ SECTION

33:03 THAT WE HAVE.

33:04 WITH OUR TEAMS ARE OPS TEAMS.

33:06 311 UH ANYBODY CALLING IN WE

33:09 ARE WORKING.

33:09 REALLY HARD TO HAVE A

33:10 STARTER KIT THAT HAS.

33:12 MULTIPLE LANGUAGE ACCESS.

33:14 UM IT'S.

33:14 STILL IN THE WORKS.

33:15 UM, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE

33:17 SURE THAT ANYBODY WHO NEEDS

33:19 INFORMATION IS ABLE.

33:20 TO ACCESS IT.

33:21 WE ALSO HAVE.

33:21 THE TRASH DAY APP WHICH HAS.

33:22 A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.

33:23 YOU WERE ABLE TO SET REMINDERS

33:24 ON YOUR APP.

33:25 ALL OF THOSE CHANGES ARE

33:26 COMMUNICATED BY.

33:27 THAT AND UM.

33:29 EMAILS AND UM EXPLAINER VIDEOS

33:32 THAT WERE.

33:32 TALKING ABOUT HOW TO STORE.

33:34 YOUR WAYS FOR THE TWO WEEKS

33:35 AND UM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

33:37 ANYBODY ON OUR TEAM ZERO WASTE

33:39 EMAIL GARBAGE GOT AN EMAIL IS

33:41 AVAILABLE.

33:41 HAPPY TO ANSWER.

33:43 THANK YOU THANK YOU AND I'M

33:44 GOING TO GET INTO I'M SORRY.

33:45 AND TO BUILD ON THAT I MEAN I

33:47 THINK ANY SORT OF.

33:49 AMPLIFICATION THAT THIS THAT

33:50 ALL OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN

33:51 DOING TO LET.

33:52 FOLKS.

33:52 WHO ARE.

33:53 ENROLLED KNOW.

33:54 OF.

33:54 THE SCHEDULE CHANGE, THOSE WHO

33:55 ARE INTERESTED IN ENROLLING TO

33:57 REACH OUT AND.

33:58 PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY TO KNOW

34:00 ABOUT THE PROJECT OSCAR

34:02 OPPORTUNITIES THOSE ARE SORT

34:02 OF THREE THINGS I THINK THAT

34:03 ARE VERY USEFUL TO.

34:05 TO HELP AMPLIFY.

34:06 SO I APPRECIATE THE.

34:07 UH THE UH.

34:08 OPPORTUNITY THAT THANK YOU.

34:10 UM, JUST GETTING INTO THIS

34:11 QUESTION OF 85% VERSUS THE 15%

34:14 UM, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE

34:15 LISTENING IN AND THIS IS THIS

34:18 IS DIRECTLY TO YOU, CHIEF

34:18 BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU CAN

34:19 ANSWER THIS UM, JUST THINKING

34:20 ABOUT THE COMPARATIVE

34:21 ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS BETWEEN

34:24 UM AND I GUESS OVERALL

34:26 GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACT

34:27 OF ANAEROBIC DIGESTION VERSUS

34:28 TRADITIONAL COMPOSTING.

34:29 CAN YOU JUST EXPAND ON THAT AND

34:31 WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT WHERE

34:32 WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS NOW

34:33 AND SCALING UP AND WHAT IT MAY

34:35 MEAN TO PARTNER REGIONALLY WITH

34:37 OTHER CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES

34:39 TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE'RE GETTING.

34:40 UM, FROM FROM WHAT WE'RE

34:41 COLLECTING.

34:42 YEAH, I.

34:43 THINK SO BOTH ANAEROBIC

34:44 DIGESTION AND COMPOSTING ARE

34:46 GOOD WAYS OF PREVENTING

34:47 GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM

34:48 FOOD WASTE.

34:49 AND THE QUESTION IS REALLY LIKE

34:50 WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE END

34:52 PRODUCT?

34:53 UM, SO FROM A COMPOSTING

34:54 SUBJECTIVE IF WE CAN GET THE

34:55 HIGH VALUE FOOD SCRAPS AND FOOD

34:56 WASTE TO GO TO COMPOSE, THAT IS

34:58 A REALLY VALUABLE INPUT, YOU

34:59 KNOW, INTO THE AGRICULTURAL

35:01 SYSTEM IF IT IS BLENDED WITH

35:03 WASTEWATER.

35:04 UM, THE TRADITIONAL MODEL WHICH

35:06 IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS

35:07 ANAEROBIC DIGESTION WHICH IS

35:08 CAPTURING THE ENERGY USE AND

35:09 CAPTURING THAT YOU KNOW THE

35:10 METHANE GAS AS THINGS DECOMPOSE

35:12 UH, USUALLY ONSITE AT A PLACE

35:14 THAT CAN USE IT.

35:15 SO IT'S USUALLY IN A WASTE

35:16 ENERGY PLANT.

35:17 UM, AND SO YOU KNOW IN DEER

35:18 ISLAND THEY USE THAT UH

35:19 ACTUALLY POWER UM THEIR

35:21 FACILITY UM SO THAT IS A WAY

35:24 OF USING THAT ENERGY.

35:25 THERE IS ABOUT 15% OF WHAT GOES

35:27 THROUGH AN ANAEROBIC DIGESTION

35:28 COMES OUT AS A SOLID AT THE

35:29 END.

35:30 UM, BECAUSE IT'S BLENDED WITH

35:32 WASTEWATER AND BECAUSE

35:33 OF CONCERNS FOR US THAT IS NOT

35:35 A PRODUCT THAT YOU CAN THEN PUT

35:37 BACK ON FARMS THAT ARE

35:38 PRODUCING FOOD THAT WE'RE

35:39 EATING.

35:39 UH, SO IT DOES LIMIT, YOU KNOW,

35:41 THE TYPE OF AGRICULTURAL USE

35:43 THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT

35:44 FERTILIZER CAN BE USED FOR.

35:45 BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE BETTER

35:47 THAN JUST TAKING IT AND LIKE

35:49 BURNING IT AT A YOU KNOW, AT A

35:50 TRASH POINT.

35:51 UM, SO I THINK THE IDEA

35:52 OF GETTING THAT 35% OF OUR

35:54 ORGANICS OUT OF THE TRADITIONAL

35:55 GARBAGE WASTE STREAM IS GREAT

35:57 ENVIRONMENTALLY I THINK THE

35:58 HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS GETTING

36:00 AS MUCH OF THAT INTO COMPOSTING

36:01 AS POSSIBLE.

36:02 UM, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE

36:04 CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, IN

36:05 MASSACHUSETTS UH, OR LOCALLY

36:07 UH, WE PRODUCE FAR MORE FOOD

36:08 WASTE THAN THE CAPACITY

36:09 OF COMPOSTING SYSTEMS.

36:10 YEAH.

36:11 THANK YOU.

36:11 UM, THIS IS FASCINATING TO

36:13 ME.

36:13 I KNOW THAT YOU AND I COULD

36:14 TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG

36:15 TIME, BUT MY TIME IS UP.

36:17 BUT I'LL JUST, UH, COMMENT AND

36:18 JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR

36:20 UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTANDING

36:20 AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS

36:22 JUST A SHORT TERM SOLUTION AND

36:23 THINKING MORE.

36:24 LONG TERM ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE

36:26 CAN DO AS A COMMONWEALTH RATHER

36:27 THAN JUST BEING THIS BIG UM

36:30 ACTOR IN THIS SYSTEM AND REALLY

36:32 DRIVING UH, WHAT IS WHAT'S

36:33 HAPPENING IN THE NORTH SHORE

36:34 AND LAWRENCE AND OTHER PLACES?

36:36 SO UM, PLEASE CONSIDER ME A

36:37 PARTNER IN THIS WORK AND, UH,

36:39 REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME,

36:40 UM, AND BEING HERE AND JUST

36:42 OVERALL THE SUCCESS OF THE

36:43 PROGRAM AND UNDERSTANDING THAT

36:45 WE COULD FINE TUNE SOME THINGS

36:46 AND MAKE IT EVEN BETTER FOR THE

36:47 RESIDENTS OF BOSTON.

36:49 THANK YOU CHAIR.

36:50 THANK YOU COUNCIL OF COURSE.

36:52 ABOUT THE.

36:53 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE YOU.

36:54 HAVE THE FLOOR.

36:55 THANK YOU.

36:55 AND UM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.

36:58 SHE CALLED YOU DIRECTOR SO I

36:59 CALLED YOU DEREK BUT SHE, UM I

37:01 WANT TO THANK YOU.

37:02 AND HOW MANY HOW MANY

37:03 ENTREPRENEURS DO YOU HAVE IN

37:04 EAST BOSTON?

37:06 WELL, I JUST SAY THAT THAT'S

37:08 INTERESTING BECAUSE, UM, I'M

37:10 LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE RIGHT

37:11 NOW AND IT SAYS IN BOSTON HAS.

37:12 ONE BUT IT ALSO THERE'S THERE

37:15 NO IT SAYS THAT MATTAPAN

37:16 DOESN'T HAVE ANY.

37:19 SO I THINK WE.

37:20 WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO ADJUST

37:22 THE 20 LOCATIONS AND EVEN

37:23 THINK.

37:23 ABOUT.

37:23 ADDING ADDITIONAL LOCATION.

37:24 SO HAPPY TO WORK WITH.

37:25 YOU ON ON THAT.

37:26 AND WHY WHY IS 20 THE NUMBER?

37:28 IT'S SIMPLY WHERE THE PROGRAM

37:31 IS TODAY.

37:31 THERE'S NO.

37:32 THERE'S NO CLEAR.

37:33 CAP ON WHY IT SHOULD BE 20.

37:35 WE CAN THINK ABOUT.

37:36 FINDING A WAY OF EXPANDING THAT

37:37 PROGRAM WITH.

37:38 ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL REVENUE.

37:39 YEAH BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S

37:41 YOU KNOW.

37:41 ,IT'S.

37:42 I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT

37:43 MIKE IS GOING TO HOPEFULLY

37:44 EXPLAIN MYSELF.

37:45 WELL, UM, I THINK ESPECIALLY IN

37:47 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ESPECIALLY

37:48 IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND

37:49 I'M GOING TO SPEAK AS SOMEONE

37:50 WHO GREW UP IN MATTAPAN LIKE

37:52 THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS IN

37:54 WHICH LIKE COMPOSTING AND

37:55 RECYCLING HAPPENS NATURALLY AND

37:59 MATTAPAN IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH

38:01 A STRONG HAITIAN COMMUNITY,

38:02 STRONG BLACK COMMUNITY, STRONG

38:04 COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT'S A

38:06 NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD TAKE TO

38:08 COMPOSTING PROGRAMS IF

38:11 EXPLAINED AND UNDERSTOOD LIKE I

38:13 THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MY

38:14 MOTHER LOVES THE UH, CURBSIDE

38:16 FOOD WASTE PROGRAM IS BECAUSE I

38:18 SHE ALWAYS SORT OF DID OUR

38:20 VERSION OF THAT.

38:21 AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S

38:22 REAL OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US

38:24 TO DO EXPANSION.

38:25 I'D ALSO LOVE TO SEE A VERSION

38:28 OF THE MAP OF THE GRASS OF THE

38:32 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY BIN

38:33 TONNAGES BY NEIGHBORHOOD.

38:35 .

38:35 UM THIS.

38:36 REMINDED ME OF MY STATISTICS

38:37 DAYS BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO

38:39 EXPLAIN THIS THE PERFECT WAY.

38:41 UH, IT'D PROBABLY BE A BIT LIKE

38:42 THE CIRCLES OF SHOWING USAGE BY

38:45 NEIGHBORHOOD POPULATION.

38:47 BECAUSE.

38:48 YEAH.

38:50 I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK

38:52 IT WOULD SHOW US A LOT

38:53 OF TRENDS THAT THE HIGH USAGE

38:54 DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE

38:56 MOST POPULATED NEIGHBORHOODS.

38:58 AND I THOUGHT YOU STATED AT

38:59 FIRST THAT IT WAS JAMAICA PLAIN

39:00 DORCHESTER, BUT I DON'T SEE

39:03 THAT ON THE MAPS OR ON.

39:04 THE GROUND.

39:04 AND DEFINITELY GOING.

39:05 IN FOR.

39:06 THE ENROLLMENT UM.

39:07 IN THE CURBSIDE PROGRAM THAT IS

39:09 WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

39:10 JAMAICA PLAIN AND DORCHESTER

39:12 AS.

39:12 THE TOP PEOPLE THAT ARE.

39:14 ENROLLED IN THE CURBSIDE

39:15 PROGRAM.

39:15 FOR TONNAGE.

39:16 IS ON PROJECT OSCAR.

39:17 I'M SORRY THE.

39:18 CHART IS A TONNAGE.

39:20 BY PROJECT OSCAR.

39:20 THE MAP IS ENROLLEES IN.

39:22 UH UH IN.

39:24 THE CURBSIDE PROGRAM.

39:25 OKAY I'D LOVE FOR THAT TO BE A

39:27 VERSION OF BOTH OF THESE.

39:28 IT ALSO TAKES INTO

39:30 CONSIDERATION POPULATION

39:31 OF NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I THINK

39:32 THAT WOULD SHOW SORT OF EQUITY

39:34 DISCREPANCIES OR CHARTER

39:36 LANGUAGE BARRIERS WHERE WE NEED

39:38 TO DO MORE WORK.

39:38 AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A

39:40 IT MAKES SENSE THAT LONGWOOD,

39:41 FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE

39:42 THERE'S ANYONE BECAUSE THEY'RE

39:43 MAYBE NOT IN THE HOUSEHOLDS BUT

39:45 FOR SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS

39:46 WHERE THERE ARE VIEWS OF THE

39:47 POPULATION.

39:48 OKAY.

39:49 UM AND I THINK COMES WITH

39:50 COLETTE AS A PART I MAY HAVE

39:51 ASKED A QUESTION THAT TOUCHES

39:52 BUT I WASN'T FULLY HEARING OR I

39:54 WAS TRYING TO WORK ON A

39:56 QUESTION WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS

39:59 OF TAKING UH, THE FOOD SCRAPS

40:00 FOOD WASTE OUT OF THE REGULAR

40:03 MAINSTREAM TRASH FOR THE CITY?

40:07 YEAH.

40:08 I THINK AT A HIGH LEVEL.

40:09 SO THE REST OF THE GARBAGE

40:10 COLLECTED IN THE BLACK BEANS

40:11 TRADITIONALLY GOES TO A WASTE

40:13 ENERGY PLANT.

40:14 IN WHICH ONES.

40:15 DO YOU SERVICE?

40:17 BRAINTREE?

40:17 SAUGUS?

40:18 REVERE?

40:18 UM.

40:19 SO IT IS BURNED UH, AND SO

40:22 UH BUT IT'S ALSO CO-MINGLED

40:23 WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT

40:24 PEOPLE THROW OUT.

40:24 SO IT'S COMING UP WITH PLASTICS

40:25 AND METALS AND PACKAGING.

40:27 UH, SO YOU'RE THE.

40:28 MATTRESSES ON THE MATTRESSES

40:29 THERE AS WELL?

40:29 NO.

40:30 WELL NO WE NO LONGER PICK UP I

40:32 MEAN OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE

40:33 PUTTING MATTRESSES INTO.

40:34 THOSE RESTROOMS WE DON'T IN

40:36 BOSTON WE HAVE A VERY

40:37 SUCCESSFUL SORT OF MATTRESS

40:38 DIVERSION PROGRAM.

40:39 AND WHERE DO THOSE MATTRESS ALL

40:40 RIGHT I'M WITH THEM.

40:41 QUESTION WHERE ARE THOSE

40:42 MATTRESSES GOING.

40:44 TO CHARLESTOWN.

40:45 BUT I CAN GET BACK.

40:46 TO YOU ON OH OKAY.

40:47 AND THEY GET LIKE

40:48 DECONSTRUCTED LIKE.

40:49 75% OF THE MATTRESS MATERIAL.

40:51 IS RECYCLABLE WHICH IS THE

40:53 REASON WHY THAT.

40:54 WAS BANNED.

40:54 AWESOME.

40:55 THANK YOU.

40:55 AND WE DON'T AS A REMINDER WE

40:57 DO NOT WANT PEOPLE PICKING UP

40:58 MATTRESSES ON THE CURB BECAUSE.

41:00 OF BEDBUGS AND.

41:00 STUFF RIGHT?

41:00 IT'S NOT A.

41:01 YES LIKE WE DON'T RECYCLE THOSE

41:02 ONSITE OR.

41:03 REUSE THOSE ONSITE.

41:05 UM SO SO WE WANT TO AVOID LIKE

41:09 THE WASTE ENERGY IS GREAT IF

41:10 IT'S IT'S BETTER THAN JUST

41:12 WASTE SITTING IN A LANDFILL BUT

41:13 LIKE WE WANT TO REDUCE THAT

41:14 BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A CIRCULAR

41:16 ECONOMY.

41:16 WE SPEND A LOT OF UH ENERGY AND

41:19 UM AND COST CREATING FOOD AND

41:21 SO YOU WANT TO KEEP THOSE FOOD

41:23 WASTE AND SORT OF HIGHER UM,

41:24 UH, YOU KNOW, CIRCULAR.

41:25 USES AND SO COMPOSTING IS SORT

41:27 OF THAT HIGHER CIRCULAR USE

41:29 BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING ALL

41:30 OF THAT ORGANIC MATTER AND

41:31 PUTTING IT BACK ON, YOU KNOW,

41:33 TO PRODUCE FURTHER ORGANIC

41:34 MATTER.

41:35 SO WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE

41:36 OF THE STATE WANTING TO GET

41:37 FOOD WASTE OUT OF THE WASTE

41:38 STREAM.

41:38 THE QUESTION IS LIKE WHAT ARE

41:40 THE WHAT ARE THE AVAILABLE

41:41 HIGHEST AND BEST USES IF IT IS

41:43 CO-MINGLED WITH WASTEWATER THAT

41:44 KIND OF DOWNGRADES IT BECAUSE

41:46 THEN YOU'RE MIXING IT WITH

41:47 WASTE AND MIXING WITH THOSE

41:48 PATHOGENS AND MIXING WITH PFOA

41:49 WHICH IS VERY HARD TO GET OUT

41:51 OF.

41:51 SO IT LIMITS THEN THE END USE

41:52 OF WHATEVER THE SOLID IS THAT'S

41:53 COMING OUT OF THAT.

41:54 UM.

41:55 THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN YOU

41:56 KNOW, I MEAN THE HIGHEST BASIC

41:57 YOU KNOW, AVAILABILITY IS IS

41:59 PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COMPOST,

42:01 UH, IN THEIR HOMES AND THEN USE

42:02 THAT COMPOST BECAUSE THEN THEY

42:04 ARE HIGHLY INCENTIVIZED TO MAKE

42:05 SURE THAT THAT IS A CLEAN

42:06 PRODUCT WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT

42:07 OF CONTAMINANTS.

42:08 UM, BUT WE FULLY APPRECIATE

42:09 THAT'S NOT A VIABLE OPTION FOR

42:10 MOST BOSTON HOUSEHOLDS.

42:11 IT'S LIKE HOW DO WE KEEP THAT

42:13 AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE?

42:13 YEAH, I THINK WE'VE DONE A

42:15 GREAT JOB ON UM THE COMPOSTING

42:17 OF YARD WASTE AND BEING ABLE TO

42:18 GET THAT BACK OUT, UM, TO

42:20 COMMUNITIES IN BOSTON TO USE ON

42:21 THEIR OWN GARDENS.

42:22 BUT THE CHALLENGE IS AGAIN THE

42:24 THE CONTAMINANT.

42:26 PROCESS AND THEN.

42:26 MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT

42:28 THAT WASTE IS UM AND WHAT THAT

42:30 IDEALLY THE FOOD WASTE IS IS

42:32 USED FOR ITS HIGHEST AVAILABLE

42:33 USE BASED ON THE QUALITY.

42:35 OF THE PRODUCT.

42:35 THANK YOU.

42:37 I HAVE THREE MORE QUESTIONS.

42:37 OH DID YOU HAVE OKAY, UM TWO

42:39 MORE QUESTIONS OR I MIGHT HAVE

42:40 TO GO TO STICK AROUND BUT UM,

42:41 LIKE I TOLD YOU THIS MORNING, I

42:43 JUST I JUST CAUGHT MY EYE AS I

42:44 WAS COMING HOME EARLY THIS

42:45 MORNING.

42:46 UM, I JUST CAUGHT, UH, THE FOOD

42:49 WASTE BIN AND I HAD MY I DIDN'T

42:51 HAVE LIKE A BIG BAG THIS WEEK.

42:52 IT WAS LIKE A HALF FILLED GREEN

42:55 BAG.

42:55 I KEEP IT IN MY FREEZER.

42:57 UH, MY MOM DOES IT DIFFERENTLY,

42:59 RIGHT?

42:59 SHE KEEPS HER COMPOST.

43:02 IN HER.

43:03 UH, KITCHEN AND SHE COOKS A LOT

43:04 MORE THAN I DO.

43:05 UM, RIGHT.

43:06 SO SHE HAS A LOT MORE FOOD.

43:07 SCRAPS.

43:08 AND SO I THINK THE BIWEEKLY

43:09 IS GREAT BECAUSE TODAY THIS

43:12 MORNING I SAID LIKE IF I'M NOT

43:13 ABLE TO CATCH THE THEN I'LL

43:15 JUST WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK AND

43:16 IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

43:17 SO THAT'S PERFECT FOR SOMEONE

43:18 LIKE ME FOR SOMEONE LIKE MY

43:19 MOTHER WAS A LOT OF FOOD SCRAPS

43:21 AND WHO DOESN'T FREEZE?

43:23 I'M WONDERING WHAT SORT

43:25 OF EDUCATION CAN BE DONE OR

43:26 SHOULD BE DONE MOVING TO A BI

43:28 WEEKLY SCHEDULE FOR THOSE LIKE

43:31 MY MOM ALSO HAS LIKE MULTIPLE

43:33 FREEZERS AND ALL OF THEM ARE

43:35 FULL RIGHT?

43:36 SO LIKE MAYBE FREEZING ISN'T

43:38 THE BEST METHOD OF MAINTAINING

43:40 FOR A TWO WEEK PERIOD BUT WHAT

43:42 IS GOING LIKE?

43:42 WHAT IS THE EDUCATION ALONGSIDE

43:44 HOW WE WAIT FOR A TWO WEEK FOR

43:47 THOSE WHO THEY NEED THAT TWO

43:48 WEEK THAT TWO WEEK PERIOD MAY

43:49 BE A BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT.

43:52 FREEZING AND SO FAR.

43:53 THE RECOMMENDED SOLUTION UH IN.

43:56 THIS.

43:56 CASE BUT IF YOU'RE RUNNING.

43:57 OUT OF CAPACITY I CAN CHECK.

43:58 IN WITH THE.

43:59 TEAM AND.

43:59 SEE HOW TO WORK WITH THAT

44:00 SPECIFIC CASE.

44:01 OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR.

44:03 EXHAUST IDEA OF FREEZING

44:04 CAPACITY.

44:04 WHAT DO YOU DO?

44:06 I ALSO JUST DON'T THINK THAT MY

44:07 MOTHER IS ALONE AND I THINK

44:08 THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE

44:09 WHO ACTUALLY AREN'T FREEZING

44:11 AND WHO ARE BECAUSE I GO IN

44:13 PEOPLE'S HOMES AND I SEE IT

44:14 THAT THEY HAVE THE BINS IN

44:15 THEIR KITCHENS AND THEY TAKE IT

44:17 OUT.

44:18 THE OTHER TWO.

44:19 THINGS THAT.

44:20 WE'RE OFFERING IS UPGRADING

44:22 YOUR BIN SIZE.

44:23 SO IF YOU HAVE THE.

44:24 BUCKET YOU CAN GO TO THE BIGGER

44:25 BIN YOU COULD REQUEST AN

44:27 ADDITIONAL BIN.

44:27 YOU CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL

44:29 COUNTERTOP BIN ALL.

44:30 OF THESE AS CONVENIENT.

44:32 SOLUTIONS UNTIL YOUR PICKUP DAY

44:34 COMES OR.

44:34 ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT.

44:36 UH WE CAN COMBINE.

44:37 WITH THIS ROAD.

44:39 OKAY.

44:40 THANK YOU.

44:40 I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT.

44:41 I'LL WAIT FOR THE SECOND ROUND.

44:43 THANK YOU.

44:45 WE ARE ALSO.

44:45 JOINED BY COUNCIL SHARON DURKAN

44:48 .

44:49 AS WELL.

44:49 UM, JUST REMINDING THE.

44:51 COLLEAGUES THAT JUST.

44:52 CAME IN UM GIVING EACH CITY.

44:55 COUNCIL SIX MINUTES AND WE

44:56 PROBABLY.

44:57 WILL DO.

44:57 A SECOND SECOND ROUND AS

45:00 WELL.

45:01 UM, IF YOU.

45:02 GO OVER THE SIX MINUTES.

45:03 CONTINUE ASKING YOUR QUESTION.

45:04 I'M NOT GOING TO.

45:05 CUT YOU OFF.

45:06 UM, COUNCIL MURPHY.

45:08 YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

45:09 THANK YOU.

45:10 CHAIR.

45:10 UM.

45:11 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND

45:13 .

45:14 I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT MY

45:16 FIRST TERM HERE ON THE COUNCIL.

45:19 COUNCILOR BOK WAS A STRONG

45:20 ADVOCATE FOR THIS AND PROJECT

45:22 OSCAR AND.

45:22 GETTING THE, YOU KNOW, THE

45:24 GREEN.

45:24 BINS OUT AND I SEE SOME

45:28 DEFINITELY WANT IT MY MOM.

45:29 SO I DO HAVE.

45:30 QUESTIONS ABOUT.

45:31 THE BI WEEKLY.

45:32 ALSO UM SHE REPURPOSES AND

45:35 USES.

45:36 IT.

45:36 FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS BUT

45:37 HAS UM 10% SEEMS LOW.

45:41 I KNOW WE STARTED THIS

45:44 OBVIOUSLY WITH THE HOPE TO

45:47 EXPAND AND THERE'S A WAITING

45:49 LIST.

45:50 BUT IS THERE AN EDUCATION PIECE

45:53 AND WHERE ARE THOSE.

45:55 10% OF THE HOMES?

45:56 DO WE.

45:57 HAVE THE DATA OF WHO'S.

45:58 USING THEM NOW?

46:00 YEAH.

46:00 SO UM IT'S A GREAT QUESTION

46:02 I THINK REALLY UNDERSCORES THE

46:03 FACT THAT THIS IS REALLY THIS

46:04 IS.

46:04 A.

46:04 PILOT AND.

46:05 A PILOT AS BOTH CHIEF SWEAT

46:07 AND VOLKER.

46:07 TALKED ABOUT AS.

46:08 WE ARE LOOKING TO LEARN.

46:09 AND CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT

46:10 HOW DO WE ACTUALLY.

46:11 SCALE THIS UM.

46:12 SO WE KNOW WHERE THE.

46:13 ENROLLEES ARE.

46:14 UM.

46:15 WE DON'T HAVE.

46:16 GRANULAR INFORMATION THAT.

46:17 SORT OF USE BY.

46:18 ENROLLEE AND.

46:19 NEIGHBORHOOD BUT HAPPY TO.

46:20 GET YOU THE SORT OF BY

46:21 NEIGHBORHOOD BREAKDOWN.

46:22 UH.

46:22 HOW WOULD WE LIKE.

46:24 DO.

46:24 THE COLLECTORS.

46:26 KEEP DATA.

46:27 BECAUSE I NOTICED SOME

46:29 NEIGHBORS DON'T EVER PUT THEM

46:31 OUT.

46:32 SOME DO.

46:33 SOME MAY BE REPURPOSING ALL

46:35 OF IT.

46:35 SO HOW ARE WE COMMUNICATING.

46:39 WITH THOSE WHO ARE IN THIS

46:41 PILOT?

46:44 UM SO I DO THAT'S A.

46:45 PRETTY.

46:46 GOOD JOB.

46:46 THEY HAVE A LOT OF WAYS TO

46:47 REACH OUT.

46:48 THEY SEND REGULAR

46:49 COMMUNICATIONS.

46:49 THEY ALSO CANVASS.

46:50 THEY GO DOOR TO DOOR, SPEAK TO

46:52 RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND YOU

46:53 KNOW, WE HAVE AN AUDIT PROCESS

46:55 IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT

46:56 WE'RE SERVICING THE RESIDENTS

46:58 WHAT USING THE PROGRAM.

47:00 SO UM, WE STARTED THAT LAST

47:02 FALL JUST TO FIGURE OUT, UM,

47:04 CAN BE REPURPOSED BINS THAT ARE

47:06 NOT BEING USED TO GIVE THEM TO

47:08 HOMES THAT NEED THEM.

47:09 UM, AND IN THAT PROCESS WE ALSO

47:11 THE VENDOR ALSO ENGAGES AND

47:12 TALKS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT

47:14 THE RESIDENTS ARE FACING TRYING

47:15 TO GET THEM TO USE THE.

47:17 SERVICE MORE AND IF THEY

47:19 REPEATEDLY THEY HAVE A PROTOCOL

47:20 IF THEY REPEATEDLY NOTICE, UH.

47:22 A LACK OF ACTION.

47:23 OR.

47:23 SET OUT.

47:24 THEY WILL TAKE THE BIN AWAY AND

47:25 THEN SEND IT TO A HOME.

47:26 SO THAT'S ONE.

47:27 PART OF THE UM.

47:29 MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW,

47:31 ANYBODY'S CHALLENGES ARE

47:32 ADDRESSED IN THAT PROCESS.

47:33 AND IS THE WAITING LIST THE

47:36 ORIGINAL AND HAVE WE LIKE

47:38 UPDATED IT?

47:39 IS IT ONE LIKE GET DROPPED LIKE

47:41 OUR SCHOOL WAITING LIST?

47:42 HOW DOES THE WAITING.

47:43 LIST WORK?

47:45 UM AH WHEN WE WHEN WE STARTED

47:47 DOING THIS ANALYSIS IT WAS AT

47:49 1600 AND WITHIN THAT TIME IT

47:51 HAD GROWN ANOTHER HUNDRED SO WE

47:52 WERE 1700 AS EARLY AS COUNT.

47:56 UM THE WINNER ANTICIPATES THAT

47:57 IT'LL TAKE A MONTH FOR THEM TO

47:59 START PROCESSING EVERYBODY ON

48:00 THE WAITLIST TO START GIVING

48:02 THEM THE PIN, STARTING.

48:03 THE SERVICE, SENDING THEM THE

48:05 STARTER KITS.

48:05 AND AND THEN EXPAND BEYOND

48:06 THAT.

48:08 AND HAVE WE TAKEN ANYONE OFF

48:10 THE LIST WHEN WE PULL BIDS FROM

48:12 FAMILIES.

48:12 WHO.

48:13 WE KNOW HAVEN'T BEEN USING IT

48:14 SO WE CAN STAY AT THAT ORIGINAL

48:15 THRESHOLD?

48:16 UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

48:18 I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER TO

48:19 THAT, BUT I.

48:20 CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

48:22 AND DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH WE

48:25 CAN EXPAND SUCCESSFULLY LIKE DO

48:28 WE HAVE THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO

48:30 BE SUCCESSFUL.

48:31 NOT JUST WE.

48:32 SAID WE'D WAIT AND WE'LL.

48:33 GET TO THIS LIST SO WE HAVE TO

48:35 BUT WE'RE.

48:35 PREPARED FOR THAT.

48:37 YES, WE DO HAVE AN ACTION.

48:39 PLAN UH, OF RESOLVING THE

48:40 WAITLIST FIRST AS PRIORITY.

48:42 BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE A

48:43 PROJECTION FROM THE WINDOW

48:44 OF HOW MANY MORE HOUSEHOLDS

48:46 THEY CAN ADD IN THE YEAR.

48:47 UM, WE HAVE BUDGETED BINS FOR

48:49 THAT.

48:50 UM, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO

48:52 EXPAND BEYOND THE.

48:53 WAITLIST AND IF YOU COULD JUST

48:55 SPEAK TO THE 20 IS THAT STILL

48:58 THE NUMBER OF THE PROJECT OSCAR

49:01 BINS ACROSS THE CITY HOW

49:02 THEY'RE DOING AND HOW THEY'RE

49:06 GETTING EMPTIED IN ALL AND ARE

49:07 THEY STAYING CLEAN AND UH THEY

49:10 SUCCESSFUL.

49:12 UM WE SEE A VARIETY OF.

49:13 BEHAVIORS ACROSS UH.

49:14 ,OSCAR BINS.

49:15 THERE'S SOME.

49:16 NEIGHBORHOODS THEY.

49:16 WANT MORE.

49:17 OF THEM.

49:17 THEY WANT MORE BINS.

49:18 PER LOCATION.

49:20 UM, SO.

49:21 WE ALSO DO THE SAME ACTIVITY.

49:23 FOR OUR PROJECT.

49:23 OSCAR.

49:24 UH.

49:25 TRY AND DO AS MUCH OUTREACH.

49:26 AS POSSIBLE.

49:27 UM, BUS.

49:28 SHELTER STOPS, UM BUS BUSSES.

49:31 MEDIA EDUCATION, UM

49:34 NEWSLETTERS, UH.

49:35 OUTREACH THROUGH.

49:36 I.N.S. ALL.

49:36 OF THESE THINGS WE TRY TO

49:39 INCREASE USAGE OF AN OSCAR BAN

49:41 BUT.

49:42 BECAUSE WE HAVE CAPACITY.

49:43 CONSTRAINTS AS WELL ON THAT

49:44 SIDE SOMETIMES WE WOULD TAKE A

49:46 BEAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN

49:47 PERFORMING TOO WELL OVER A VERY

49:49 LONG PERIOD OF TIME INTO A

49:50 PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY

49:51 REACHING OUT.

49:52 SAYING WE.

49:53 WANT MORE OSCAR WINNING

49:54 CAPACITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

49:56 SO WE'VE DONE.

49:56 HAVE WE HAVE MOVED WHEN WE SAW

49:58 YES, YES.

49:59 SO WE.

49:59 HAVE DONE THAT.

50:01 UH LAST YEAR AND CAN WE SPEAK

50:02 TO.

50:03 THE FOOD THAT WE SERVE AT

50:06 COMMUNITY CENTERS, SENIOR

50:07 CENTERS, SCHOOLS HOW ARE THEY

50:09 TIED IN AND DO THEY ALSO USE A

50:13 SIMILAR OR AN ACTUAL SAY OSCAR

50:16 BEAN.

50:18 TO I.

50:18 BELIEVE THAT.

50:19 THE SCHOOLS.

50:19 ARE LIKE 40 SCHOOLS THAT.

50:21 HAVE UM THE FARM TO TABLE

50:23 PROGRAM THAT ALSO HAS.

50:24 COMBINATION OF.

50:27 UM FOOD WASTE.

50:28 EDUCATION AND SEPARATION.

50:30 THE EXACT NUMBER OF HOW MANY.

50:33 ARE ACTUALLY SENDING IT TO UH

50:35 FOOD WASTE COLLECTION.

50:36 I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON UH,

50:38 DON'T HAVE A LITTLE.

50:39 PLAN AND DO ALL OF OUR HOUSING

50:43 HAVE COMPOST?

50:44 NOT ALL OF THEM DO.

50:45 ANY OF THEM SOME OF THEM SOME

50:47 OF US IN ARE THOSE USED OR ARE

50:50 THEY SOME OF THE LOWER USE

50:52 BECAUSE THEN THAT TIES INTO THE

50:53 WHOLE EDUCATION.

50:55 PIECE ALSO BIGGER ONES ARE

50:57 USED.

50:58 I THINK BHP HAS A SEPARATE

50:59 COMPOST PROGRAM.

51:01 UM BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE

51:02 MULTI-UNIT APARTMENT BUILDINGS

51:04 IT FILLS UP QUICKLY.

51:06 UM THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE

51:07 DEPARTMENT I CAN GET BACK TO

51:09 AND UNDERSTAND JUST HOW MUCH

51:10 OF THE BUDGET AND THEN GREAT

51:11 QUESTION AND ONE OTHER QUESTION

51:13 ABOUT THESE KIND OF PUBLIC

51:14 OSCAR BINS.

51:16 UH, DO WE DISCOURAGE OR IS IT

51:18 NOT ALLOWED TO SAY LIKE HAVE A

51:21 RESTAURANT OR LIKE A SMALL

51:22 COFFEE SHOP?

51:22 OBVIOUSLY NOT A BIG RESTAURANT

51:25 CHAIN WOULD USE THEM BUT ARE

51:27 THEY ALLOWED TO DROP OFF LIKE

51:28 IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON WHO

51:31 FILLS THEM?

51:32 DO WE FIND SOME OVERFLOWING

51:33 BECAUSE CERTAIN BUSINESSES ARE

51:35 USING THEM OR NO, WE'VE NOT HAD

51:38 A WHOLE LOT OF UM ILLEGAL

51:40 DUMPING ON THE OSCAR BEANS.

51:42 SOME OF THEM IT IS CODED UH, SO

51:45 YOU NEED TO HAVE A CODE TO

51:46 ACCESS IT TO OPEN WHICH IS

51:48 PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IF YOU

51:49 REALLY WANTED TO.

51:49 YOU CAN BUT UH, WE HAVE NOT

51:51 HEARD TOO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT

51:52 COMMERCIAL ENTITIES USING IT,

51:54 BUT WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT

51:56 ACCESS ONLY TO RESIDENTS, UH,

51:57 FOR NOW FOR THE OSCAR BAN.

51:59 AND ONE LAST JUST CURIOUS IS IS

52:04 THERE, UM, AN ISSUE LARGE

52:07 ENOUGH TO BE CONCERNED THAT

52:08 PEOPLE MISUSE THE GREEN ONES

52:09 THINKING THEY'RE JUST SMALL

52:11 RECYCLE BINS BECAUSE I HAVE

52:12 SEEN PEOPLE MAKE THAT LIKE

52:13 PUTTING THE WRONG THINGS IN AND

52:15 NOT REALIZING EVEN THOUGH IT'S

52:16 OBVIOUSLY BLUE GREEN.

52:17 BUT IS THAT BEEN A PROBLEM WITH

52:20 THOSE WHO ARE GOING AROUND

52:21 PICKING THEM UP?

52:22 IT IS A LITTLE BIT CONTAMINATED

52:24 .

52:24 UM, WE DON'T REALLY GET A LOT

52:27 OF UPDATES FROM OUR CURBSIDE

52:28 VENDOR ON CONTAMINATION ALSO

52:30 BECAUSE IT GOES TO AN 80

52:31 FACILITY WHICH IS ABLE TO

52:32 HANDLE ALL OF THIS.

52:33 BUT ON THE OTHER HAND PROJECT

52:35 OSCAR FOR EXAMPLE WE GET

52:36 CONTAMINATION REPORTS ALL THE

52:37 TIME.

52:37 THERE'S A CONTAMINATION FEE

52:38 BUILT INTO OUR CONTRACT SO

52:40 THERE IS ACTIVE EDUCATION GOING

52:42 ON THERE THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE

52:43 NOT GOING TO PICK UP THIS LOAD

52:44 IF IT HAS ONLY PLASTICS IN IT

52:46 RIGHT?

52:46 SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE

52:48 BETWEEN COMPOST AND 80.

52:49 OKAY THANK YOU.

52:51 THANK YOU CHAIR.

52:52 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

52:55 UM COUNCILOR FITZGERALD YOU

52:56 HAVE THE FLOOR.

52:57 THANK YOU CHAIR UH, AND I

53:00 COULDN'T HELP BUT CHUCKLE

53:01 DURING THIS HEARING MY WIFE

53:02 SENT ME A TEXT AND SAID HEY, BY

53:03 THE WAY, UH, THE FOOD WASTE IS

53:05 GOING TO EVERY TWO WEEKS.

53:07 JOHN, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I

53:08 SAID SO I'M HEARING THIS LIKE

53:10 UH UM LITERALLY WHILE WE'RE

53:12 HERE, UH, WE ARE A PARTICIPANT

53:13 UH, IN THIS AND WE DO HAVE THE

53:15 GREEN BELT BUT THANK YOU FOR

53:16 THE COMMUNICATION.

53:17 ONCE THE EMAIL WENT OUT AND I

53:18 WAS WORKING, IT GOT UH IT GOT

53:20 TO THE GUY WHO TAKES THE TRASH

53:21 OUT.

53:22 UM, SO I KNOW MY ROLE NOW.

53:24 UM, BUT I DO THINK ABOUT NOW

53:27 WHAT THIS MEANS BECAUSE WE FILL

53:28 IT UP PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT?

53:29 YOU GOT THREE KIDS.

53:30 UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PEANUT

53:32 BUTTER AND JELLY CRUST AND THE

53:33 NIGHTS DAD COOKS, MOST OF IT

53:35 ENDS UP IN THE BIN.

53:36 RIGHT?

53:37 AND, UM, SO I'M TRYING TO THINK

53:40 OF I HEARD YOU SAID WE COULD

53:41 ASK FOR A BIGGER BIN.

53:43 IS THAT ANY ADDED COST OR IS

53:44 THAT JUST A REQUEST.

53:45 FOR NO NO NO, I ADDED FOR A

53:47 BIN.

53:48 OKAY.

53:49 UM, AND HOW MUCH BIGGER IS

53:50 THE BIN FROM.

53:51 THE FROM THE SMALL.

53:51 BUCKET THAT WE HAVE NOW.

53:53 DO YOU HAVE THE FIVE GALLON?

53:54 IT MUST BE A FIVE GALLON.

53:56 YEAH SO YOU CAN GO UP TO 1212.

53:58 OKAY SO SUBSETS OF OF OVER

53:59 TWICE THE SIZE OKAY GREAT.

54:01 UM JUST THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S

54:02 WHERE THEY STORE IT IF THERE'S

54:04 ENOUGH SPACE ETC..

54:07 UM WE DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE

54:09 BIODEGRADABLE BAGS THAT ARE

54:10 RIGHT.

54:11 WE I BELIEVE FAMILIES HAVE TO

54:12 BUY THOSE PERSONALLY, RIGHT.

54:14 THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROGRAM.

54:17 YEAH OKAY.

54:18 NO IT'S NOT GREAT.

54:20 UM, SO I FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST

54:23 PAIN THEY'LL JUST BE

54:25 REMEMBERING WHAT WEEK IT IS,

54:26 RIGHT?

54:27 UM, AND THAT'S FINE.

54:28 I HAVE THE TRASH OUT THERE.

54:29 I'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT

54:30 EASILY AND I THINK, UM, FOR

54:32 ANYONE LISTENING IN THAT SORT

54:33 OF LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE

54:34 TRASH APP GET IT?

54:35 IT HELPS BIG TIME WITH BOTH UM,

54:37 YOU KNOW, LEAVE LEAVES AND

54:38 OTHER STUFF TAKE AWAY AS WELL

54:40 AS THIS NOW UM AND I GUESS THE

54:44 OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS SORT

54:46 OF A MORE OVERALL THING.

54:46 IT'S IT'S IT'S A SORT OF A

54:49 COMEDIC JOKE THAT GETS BROUGHT

54:50 UP ALL THE TIME.

54:51 I SPEND ALL THE TIME SEPARATING

54:52 EVERYTHING.

54:53 DOES IT ACTUALLY MATTER?

54:54 RIGHT?

54:55 AND DOES IT GO TO THE RIGHT

54:56 PLACE?

54:56 IT'S NOT JUST FOOD WASTE BUT

54:57 RECYCLING IN GENERAL.

54:58 RIGHT.

54:58 AND UM, I'VE HEARD LATELY THAT

55:01 WE I MEAN I KNOW THAT WE I

55:02 THINK AS A COUNTRY WAS TO SELL

55:03 IT OFF TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND

55:04 THEN TO INDIA OR SOMETHING LIKE

55:06 THAT AND THEY DID STUFF WITH IT

55:07 BUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE ACCEPTING

55:08 IT AS MUCH ANYMORE.

55:09 WE'RE NOT PAYING AS MUCH.

55:11 I'M FROM I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT

55:13 I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

55:13 I'M LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO

55:14 TELL ME UM BUT SO ARE WE

55:17 ACTUALLY STILL SEPARATE?

55:19 DOES IT I MEAN FROM AND DOES IT

55:21 MATTER?

55:21 IS IT ALL GOOD?

55:22 A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST GOES ALL

55:23 GOES TO THE SAME PLACE ANYWAY,

55:25 HOW DO WE START TO DEBUNK THAT

55:26 MINDSET?

55:29 I NEVER GOT IT.

55:33 UM, SO.

55:33 UH, IF YOU'RE PUTTING OUT TRASH

55:35 THAT'S GOING TO A WASTE ENERGY

55:36 PLANT UM, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED

55:38 IF YOU'RE PUTTING OUT YOUR FOOD

55:39 WASTE UH, IT IS GOING UH EITHER

55:42 TO A SMALL AMOUNT GOING TO A

55:43 COMPOSTING FACILITY, A LARGE

55:44 AMOUNT GOING TO AN ANAEROBIC

55:45 DIGESTION FACILITY IF YOU'RE

55:47 PUTTING OUT YARD WASTE THAT IS

55:48 GOING TO A A YARD WASTE

55:49 COMPOSTING SITE PRINCIPALLY ON

55:51 AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY IF.

55:52 YOU'RE.

55:52 PUTTING OUT YOUR RECYCLABLES

55:54 THAT IS GOING TO A MATERIALS

55:56 RECOVERY FACILITY IN

55:57 CHARLESTOWN.

55:57 UM AND BEHIND YOUR QUESTIONS

55:59 REALLY THEN WHAT HAPPENS THERE

56:00 ONCE THE RECYCLABLES GET

56:03 SEPARATED AND I THINK THERE AND

56:04 YOU YOU MAY ALREADY NOTICE IF

56:06 NOT WE CAN WE CAN COME BACK TO

56:07 YOU ON THERE LIKE HERE'S HERE'S

56:08 THE SORT OF AFTERMARKET OF THE

56:10 THINGS THAT GO TO THE UM TO THE

56:12 SITE IN CHARLESTOWN ABOUT WHERE

56:14 THAT ACTUALLY GOES.

56:15 YEAH, I THINK I DO WANT TO BUT

56:17 I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I

56:18 THINK TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S

56:19 MINDSET ABOUT THAT OR TO

56:21 PARTICIPATE MORE IF THEY KNEW

56:23 WHERE IT JUST GOES TO HERE TO

56:25 GET RECYCLE GREAT.

56:26 BUT WHAT IS THE AFTERMATH OF IT

56:28 AND SAY OKAY NOW I SEE WHAT I'M

56:30 CONTRIBUTING TO.

56:31 IT MIGHT SPUR THEM MORE.

56:32 YES.

56:33 YEAH UM.

56:35 I DEFINITELY.

56:35 AGREE.

56:36 DON'T HIT THE BUTTON THAT ALSO.

56:37 YEAH I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT UM

56:40 IF WE HAD SOMETHING MORE.

56:41 VISUAL TO.

56:42 SEE WHERE IT ACTUALLY ENDS UP

56:44 GOING IT WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW,

56:46 CONNECT THE DOTS IN SOMEBODY'S

56:47 HEAD.

56:47 WE WENT TO THE MORE FACILITY.

56:49 UM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE

56:50 VISITED THAT KEEP ORGANIZING

56:52 TOURS AND IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE

56:54 TO SEE HOW YOU CAN BRING IN, UH

56:56 ,YOU KNOW, MIXED UH, RECYCLING

56:58 LOAD WITH PLASTICS PACKAGING

57:01 GLASS, METAL BIKES.

57:03 WE HAVE SOME BIKES ON THE

57:04 CONVEYOR BELT, UM, GET

57:06 SEPARATED INTO.

57:07 CLEAN STREAMS OF ALUMINUM.

57:08 CANS AND PLASTIC PACKAGING

57:09 GLASS GETS CRUSHED AND REUSED.

57:12 UH, IT DOES.

57:13 GO UH BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS

57:15 THOSE GUYS CHARGE.

57:17 US FOR COLLECTION BUT THEN.

57:18 PAY US BACK FOR WHAT THEY

57:20 ARE SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY SELLING

57:21 IT WHEN THERE IS A MARKET FOR

57:23 IT.

57:23 SO IT.

57:24 DEFINITELY MAKES A DIFFERENCE.

57:25 YEAH.

57:26 UM IT'S JUST THAT WE.

57:27 DON'T SEE TANGIBLY HOW IT IS

57:30 GETTING USED, WHICH IS WHY

57:31 PEOPLE FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, IS

57:32 IT REALLY WORTH.

57:33 IT TO DO THIS BUT.

57:35 IT DEFINITELY GETS UH GETS

57:37 USED.

57:37 NO IT'S.

57:38 GOOD I JUST WOULD SAY AT A

57:39 HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE I THINK

57:40 THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF.

57:41 UM.

57:42 COMMENTARY AND PRESS ON ON.

57:43 RECYCLING AT A HIGH LEVEL THE

57:45 WASTE STREAMS THAT ARE STILL

57:46 VERY GOOD IN TERMS.

57:48 OF, YOU KNOW, GOING TO.

57:48 ANOTHER PRODUCT PAPER AND SO

57:50 EASILY RECYCLABLE.

57:51 UM SEPARATED.

57:52 GLASS METALS.

57:54 UM.

57:54 SO.

57:55 ALL YOUR ALUMINUM CANS TIN

57:56 CANS.

57:56 LIKE THOSE ARE VERY

57:57 SUCCESSFUL.

57:58 CIRCULAR YOU KNOW WASTE STREAMS

57:59 THE THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN A

58:01 CHALLENGE HAS BEEN PLASTICS AND

58:02 THEN THE.

58:02 TRIANGLE THAT PEOPLE SEE ON THE

58:04 BOTTOM.

58:04 I'M LIKE OH DO YOU DO A

58:05 PLASTIC NUMBER THREE OR PLASTIC

58:06 NUMBER FOUR.

58:07 LIKE THAT WAS A CHALLENGE WE

58:08 CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT

58:09 YOU.

58:10 KNOW, THE YOU KNOW,

58:11 GREENWASHING.

58:11 IN THE 1970S IN THE PLASTICS

58:12 INDUSTRY BUT.

58:13 SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT

58:15 AS.

58:15 RECYCLABLE AS ONE WOULD HOPE.

58:16 YEAH RIGHT.

58:16 BUT THE CORE ONES ARE LIKE

58:18 PAPER METALS AND GLASS.

58:20 THOSE ARE STILL YOU KNOW VERY

58:21 WELL USE AND SEPARATED OUT AND

58:23 IN OUR FACILITIES.

58:24 I FEEL LIKE PLASTICS IS THE

58:26 MAJORITY OF PEOPLE'S

58:27 RECYCLABLES THESE DAYS.

58:27 WELL AND IF I THINK ABOUT WHAT

58:29 I PUT IN AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE

58:31 I MEAN AND THAT'S WHY WHEN

58:32 YOU'RE THINKING.

58:32 ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE BUYING IN

58:33 TERMS OF MY BUYING A.

58:34 BOTTLE OF SOMETHING OR A.

58:36 CAN OF SOMETHING YOU.

58:37 KNOW, OR A GLASS.

58:38 BOTTLE OF SOMETHING YOU WANT TO

58:39 THINK ABOUT THAT.

58:40 GOTCHA.

58:40 UM, LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS

58:42 I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT UH, THE

58:44 HARD PART IS PLACING THESE

58:45 FACILITIES WHEN WE WANT MORE

58:46 OF THEM AND WE JUST HAD A

58:47 HEARING UH, LAST WEEK OR TWO

58:49 WEEKS AGO, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW,

58:51 EVEN JUST THE TRASH OVER BY NEW

58:52 MARKET REPUBLIC AND UM, UM,

58:57 ROXBURY RESTORE I BELIEVE.

58:58 RIGHT?

58:58 YEAH.

58:59 UH, NO NO.

59:01 YEAH.

59:01 REPUBLIC IN THE OTHER THERE'S

59:02 THE OTHER ONE OVER THERE TO THE

59:04 RECYCLING.

59:05 UM AND SO, UH, WHERE ARE WE

59:09 LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF LIKE IS

59:11 IT IS DEALING WITH THE STATE

59:12 AND SAYING HEY, WE'VE GOT TO

59:13 FIND SOMETHING.

59:14 I KNOW YOU SAID WHAT'S THE

59:15 DIFFERENCE?

59:16 WE TRACKING IT 85 MILES AWAY

59:17 AND COMING BACK FIRST THE

59:19 BENEFIT WE GET FROM THE ACTUAL

59:21 RECYCLING UM BECAUSE I DON'T

59:23 KNOW THERE'S A TON OF SPACE IN

59:24 THE CITY ANYMORE.

59:25 RIGHT?

59:26 SO ARE WE SORT OF RESTRICTED

59:27 THERE AND I WE MORE GOING TO

59:29 RELY ON THE STATE GOING FORWARD

59:30 I GUESS I'LL JUST SIMPLIFY

59:31 THAT.

59:32 SO THERE WAS A STUDY UH,

59:34 CUSTOMER REFERENCE

59:35 COUNCILOR THAT WAS UH THAT

59:37 COUNCIL BUCKET REALLY

59:39 CHAMPIONED TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL

59:40 SITES CUSTOMER SHOUT OUT TO

59:41 YOUR UH YOUR YOUR QUESTION.

59:45 UM MY MY RECOLLECTION AND HAPPY

59:46 TO SORT OF GET.

59:47 THE THE DETAILS OF THIS UM TO

59:49 THIS BODY.

59:49 IS THAT THE UH.

59:52 THERE ARE NOT NESTLÉ LOCATIONS

59:54 WITHIN THE CITY OF BOSTON THAT

59:55 MAKES SENSE FROM A COMPOSTING

59:56 PERSPECTIVE IT MAYBE MORE

59:57 TRANSFER SITES UM, OR TO GO TO

59:59 MULTIPLE SITES THAT ARE OUTSIDE

1:00:00 OF THE CITY, WHICH IS WHY I

1:00:01 THINK WORKING WITHIN OUR REGION

1:00:03 OR WITH THE COMMONWEALTH TO

1:00:04 THINK ABOUT WHAT THOSE

1:00:05 LOCATIONS ARE IS SOMETHING

1:00:06 WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR US.

1:00:08 WE ALL EXPAND THIS PROGRAM IN

1:00:09 AN AFFORDABLE WAY.

1:00:10 UM SO I FIGURED.

1:00:12 YEAH, YEAH, NO.

1:00:13 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:00:14 IT'S I APPRECIATE.

1:00:17 THAT THANK YOU.

1:00:18 COUNCILOR, UH, COUNCILOR SHARON

1:00:19 DURKAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

1:00:21 THANK YOU SO.

1:00:22 MUCH, CHAIR.

1:00:22 AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN

1:00:23 FOR HOSTING THIS HEARING.

1:00:24 I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR CLOUD

1:00:26 AS A PART OF HER FILING THIS

1:00:27 HEARING AND INCLUDING ME AS A

1:00:28 CO-SPONSOR.

1:00:29 I'VE LONG BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR

1:00:30 COMPOSTING PROGRAMS AND FOR

1:00:32 GETTING MORE OF OUR RESIDENTS

1:00:33 INVOLVED IN COMPOSTING AND

1:00:35 READING THE MEMO FROM GARBAGE

1:00:36 TO GARDEN.

1:00:37 IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE

1:00:38 CONCERNS OF THIS PROGRAM, UM IS

1:00:41 JUST THE COST PER TON CHALLENGE

1:00:43 .

1:00:43 UM, AND IT'S REALLY NOT UH, YOU

1:00:45 KNOW, AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET

1:00:47 MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS IN

1:00:49 COMPOSTING AND TRYING TO GET

1:00:51 MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, WASTE

1:00:54 DIVERTED FROM UM, YOU KNOW, THE

1:00:56 GARBAGE UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS

1:00:58 HOW WE THINK ABOUT THAT COST

1:01:00 PER TON CHALLENGE AND HOW WE

1:01:02 THINK ABOUT BUILDING UP DENSITY

1:01:03 .

1:01:03 UM, I KNOW UH, THERE HAVE

1:01:05 ALREADY BEEN SOME QUESTIONS

1:01:06 ASKED TODAY ABOUT, UH, SORT

1:01:09 OF THE.

1:01:09 THE DEAL THAT WE'RE MAKING AND

1:01:12 THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE UM,

1:01:14 MAKING AND I SUPPORT THOSE

1:01:15 CHANGES.

1:01:16 I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT

1:01:17 THAT WE, UH, MOVE TOWARDS UH,

1:01:20 MAKING THIS MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR

1:01:22 MORE PEOPLE EVEN IF THAT MEANS

1:01:24 PICKING UP A LITTLE.

1:01:24 BIT LESS.

1:01:25 UM, I KNOW THAT I, UH I UTILIZE

1:01:29 THE PROJECT OSCAR PROGRAM AND,

1:01:30 UM, MY FREEZER IS CONSTANTLY

1:01:33 FILLED WITH LIKE SCRAPS.

1:01:35 UM, AND YOU KNOW, BITS

1:01:37 OF CARROTS AND BITS OF ONIONS

1:01:39 THAT I NEED TO HIT MY PROJECT

1:01:40 OSCAR BEAN SOON.

1:01:42 UM, SOME OF MY BIGGEST

1:01:44 ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN OUR

1:01:45 NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN, UH,

1:01:47 SECURING A PROJECT OSCAR BEAN

1:01:48 OUTSIDE OF THE FIREHOUSE IN

1:01:49 BEACON HILL ON CAMBRIDGE

1:01:50 STREET.

1:01:51 UM, AND ALSO, UH, HELPING THE

1:01:54 WEST END RESIDENTS SECURE, UH,

1:01:56 THEIR PROJECT OSCAR BEAN ON

1:01:57 CAUSEWAY STREET.

1:01:58 THE BEACON HILL ONE HAS BEEN A

1:02:00 HUGE SUCCESS AND IT IS ACTUALLY

1:02:01 THE FIFTH MOST USED IN THE

1:02:04 SYSTEM.

1:02:05 SO UM SO WE KNOW THAT THAT THIS

1:02:07 WORKS MANY RESIDENTS OF MY

1:02:09 DISTRICT ARE DISMAYED ABOUT THE

1:02:12 SIX UM, YOU KNOW, OUR FEWER

1:02:14 UNIT UH, BECAUSE THAT CREATES A

1:02:17 SYSTEM WHERE.

1:02:17 BASICALLY THE DENSEST AREAS

1:02:19 OF BOSTON ARE NOT INCLUDED IN

1:02:21 THIS PROGRAM.

1:02:22 UM AND SO THAT HAS BEEN MY

1:02:24 INITIAL ADVOCACY.

1:02:25 UM, BUT REALIZING HOW EXPENSIVE

1:02:27 IT IS UM AND REALIZING ALSO

1:02:31 THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

1:02:32 THROUGH ARPA FUNDS TO CREATE A

1:02:33 FACILITY AND I ENDED UP JUST

1:02:35 NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THAT

1:02:36 TOGETHER.

1:02:36 THAT WAS A BIG UM, PUSH BY

1:02:40 COUNCILOR THE FORMER

1:02:40 COUNCILOR FROM JUST

1:02:42 COUNCILOR BOK.

1:02:42 UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL LIKE

1:02:45 LIVING IN REALITY.

1:02:47 I GUESS MY BROADEST QUESTION IS

1:02:49 IF UM IF IT'S NOT A COVERAGE

1:02:52 PROBLEM AND IT IS A DENSITY

1:02:53 PROBLEM AND WE'RE ALSO AVOIDING

1:02:55 SORT OF THESE BIGGER UNIT

1:02:56 BUILDINGS, HOW DO WE BUILD IN

1:02:58 THAT DENSITY?

1:02:59 UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE

1:03:01 DENSEST PARTS OF BOSTON ARE

1:03:02 BASICALLY THE ONES THAT.

1:03:03 ARE.

1:03:03 EXCLUDED FROM THIS PROGRAM.

1:03:05 LOOK AT THAT POINT I THINK AND

1:03:08 BOTH MY FELLOW PANELISTS

1:03:09 THOUGHT MORE ABOUT THIS.

1:03:10 I THINK THESE TWO PRINCIPAL

1:03:11 COST DRIVERS ARE TWO WAYS WHICH

1:03:12 WE LOOK AT THE COST ONE OF THE

1:03:14 DENSITY AROUND COLLECTION AND

1:03:14 THE OTHER IS OR THE CAPACITY

1:03:16 AROUND DISPOSAL.

1:03:17 UM, THE MORE THAT WE.

1:03:18 CAN GROW ENROLLEES THE MORE

1:03:21 EFFICIENT WE ARE AT THE COST

1:03:22 PER COLLECTION.

1:03:23 UH, TO EXACTLY YOUR POINT, THIS

1:03:25 DOES GIVE US THE PATH TO SORT

1:03:27 OF EXPAND ENROLLMENT EVEN

1:03:28 THOUGH IT REDUCES THE FREQUENCY

1:03:29 OF COLLECTION.

1:03:30 SO IT IS A PATH TO BE ABLE TO

1:03:31 SORT OF MORE IN LINE TO ACHIEVE

1:03:33 SWAT'S POINT.

1:03:34 OF ALIGNING WITH WHAT WE'RE

1:03:35 SEEING IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES

1:03:36 FOR FREQUENCY OF COLLECTION

1:03:37 HOPEFULLY THAT GROWS THE

1:03:38 NUMBERS LOWERS THE COST PER

1:03:40 COLLECTION UH, GOING FORWARD.

1:03:42 THE SECOND THING REALLY IS THE

1:03:43 COST FOR DISPOSAL AND THAT IS

1:03:45 WHERE THAT IS ABOUT SOME

1:03:46 OF THIS REGIONAL COLLABORATION.

1:03:48 UM, WHICH AND TO YOUR POINT

1:03:50 AROUND COUNCILOR BOX OF THE

1:03:51 STUDY THAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR

1:03:52 THAT IS STILL AN IMPORTANT PATH

1:03:54 FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THE

1:03:55 COST PER TON, UH.

1:03:56 FOR WHEN WE'RE AT CAPACITY AT

1:03:57 THOSE SITES THAT WE ARE

1:03:59 UTILIZING.

1:04:00 SO IT'S WHILE WE WANT MORE

1:04:02 RESIDENTS TO BE AVAILABLE, WE

1:04:04 WANT MORE RESIDENTS TO ACTUALLY

1:04:05 USE THIS PROGRAM AND WE WANT

1:04:07 YOU KNOW, AND HONESTLY IT'S A

1:04:08 LITTLE BIT.

1:04:09 LIKE IT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE

1:04:10 FEEL GOOD TO LET EVERYONE

1:04:12 COMPOST THEIR STUFF.

1:04:13 BUT WHEN THE ACTUAL FACILITIES

1:04:15 ARE AT CAPACITY IT'S LIKE HOW

1:04:17 MUCH GOOD ARE WE DOING BY

1:04:19 ALLOWING MORE PEOPLE TO ACCESS

1:04:21 A PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE

1:04:22 CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY USE THE

1:04:24 WASTE THAT IS BEING CREATED.

1:04:27 SO UM IT'S A GREAT.

1:04:28 QUESTION WHICH IS WHY IT'S A

1:04:29 GOOD OPENING TO SORT.

1:04:30 OF.

1:04:31 TALK ABOUT WHERE THIS GOES UH,

1:04:32 IN.

1:04:32 IN PARTICULAR FOR UM LARGE

1:04:34 MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS AND TO

1:04:36 COUNCILOR MURPHY'S QUESTION.

1:04:38 ON HOUSING, UH, WE RAN A VERY

1:04:40 SUCCESSFUL.

1:04:40 PILOT A NUMBER OF.

1:04:42 YEARS.

1:04:42 AGO ON ADDING INCINERATORS.

1:04:43 AND DOUBLE HOUSING TO GET

1:04:45 FOOD OUT OF THAT WASTE STREAM.

1:04:46 UM, THE 85% OF.

1:04:48 THE.

1:04:49 FOOD WASTE.

1:04:49 THAT'S.

1:04:49 COLLECTED CURBSIDE.

1:04:50 GOES TO.

1:04:51 THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME

1:04:52 END OF USE AS.

1:04:53 IF IT WAS JUST GROUND UP AND

1:04:54 SENT.

1:04:54 TO.

1:04:54 DEER ISLAND IN OUR WASTE

1:04:55 STREAM.

1:04:56 SO ONE OF THE.

1:04:57 NEARER TERM SOLUTIONS WHILE WE

1:04:58 WORK OUT SORT OF.

1:04:59 SECTOR CAPACITY IS IF.

1:05:00 YOU HAVE.

1:05:01 AN INCINERATOR LIKE.

1:05:01 GRIND UP.

1:05:02 YOUR FOOD WASTE.

1:05:03 YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS THE SAME

1:05:05 THING AS.

1:05:05 PUTTING.

1:05:06 IT OUT ON.

1:05:06 CURBSIDE WASTE.

1:05:07 UM AND THAT'S AN EASIER

1:05:08 SOLUTION.

1:05:08 AND MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS

1:05:10 UH.

1:05:10 YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT

1:05:11 TO SORT OF STRESS THAT THOSE

1:05:13 ACTUALLY CAN HANDLE THAT FOOD

1:05:14 WASTE IT'S ACTUALLY KEEPING IT

1:05:15 YOU KNOW TO USE IN BOSTON.

1:05:16 AS YOU CAN IMAGINE MY OLD

1:05:17 BEACON HILL APARTMENT DOESN'T

1:05:18 HAVE THAT UNIT.

1:05:19 IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR

1:05:20 EVERYTHING.

1:05:21 DID I WOULD RUIN IT WITH AN

1:05:22 ARTICHOKE BECAUSE I HAD DONE

1:05:23 THAT BEFORE.

1:05:24 YOU GOT TOO CAUGHT.

1:05:25 UP SMALL YES.

1:05:26 I KNOW BUT ON OUR CITY

1:05:27 COMMISSION FOLKS ARE SAYING OH

1:05:27 I DON'T.

1:05:28 LIKE IT BUT IT GOES TO THAT

1:05:29 SAME END USE.

1:05:30 AND.

1:05:31 AND THEN THE ENERGY.

1:05:32 AND THE POWER YOU KNOW, THEN

1:05:33 OFFSETS THE COST OF.

1:05:34 THE WASTEWATER.

1:05:34 THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR NOW.

1:05:35 GOT IT.

1:05:36 YEAH.

1:05:37 AND I THINK

1:05:37 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD'S POINT

1:05:38 WAS SO SOLID BECAUSE WE'VE ALL

1:05:40 READ SORT OF THESE LIKE

1:05:42 ARTICLES WHERE IT'S LIKE YOU

1:05:43 KNOW IS MY PLASTIC ENDING UP ON

1:05:45 A BEACH SOMEWHERE ELSE AND LIKE

1:05:48 I FEEL GREAT ABOUT IT.

1:05:49 I FELT GREAT ABOUT THE FACT

1:05:50 THAT I'VE SEPARATED MY

1:05:51 PLASTICS.

1:05:52 I ACTUALLY STARTED MY HIGH

1:05:53 SCHOOL'S RECYCLING PROGRAM.

1:05:55 WE CALLED OURSELVES THE

1:05:56 PLANETEERS.

1:05:57 WE GOT THE MY SCHOOL ON BOARD

1:05:59 WITH THIS UH WITH THIS AND UM,

1:06:02 I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, A LIFELONG

1:06:04 RECYCLING ADVOCATE OR LIFELONG

1:06:06 ENVIRONMENTALIST BUT YET WHERE

1:06:09 IS EVERYTHING GOING?

1:06:10 AND I THINK IN BOSTON WE HAVE

1:06:11 REALLY TRIED TO DIVERT OUR

1:06:12 WASTE STREAMS TOWARDS POSITIVE

1:06:14 ROUTES.

1:06:15 I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE, UH,

1:06:17 PLACE WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN

1:06:18 ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT

1:06:20 DONE IS ACTUALLY WHEN THEY

1:06:22 MANDATED MATTRESS RECYCLING

1:06:24 MORE OF OUR STUFF ENDED UP SORT

1:06:26 OF UH, YOU KNOW, MORE OF OUR

1:06:29 MORE OF OUR MATTRESSES ACTUALLY

1:06:30 ENDED UP IN AN IDEAL WASTE, YOU

1:06:33 KNOW, SITUATION.

1:06:35 SO UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO

1:06:37 PHRASE THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY

1:06:38 MORE OF OUR MATTRESSES ARE

1:06:40 ACTUALLY GOING.

1:06:41 TO BE.

1:06:42 UH.

1:06:43 THESE ARE.

1:06:44 MUCH OF IT IS ON USABLE AND

1:06:45 ON RECYCLABLE.

1:06:47 SO UM I SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.

1:06:49 I SUPPORT THE CHANGES THAT ARE

1:06:50 MADE.

1:06:51 I WANT TO THANK UH, THE CHAIR

1:06:52 FOR UM HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS

1:06:54 AS WELL.

1:06:55 I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY

1:06:56 IMPORTANT THAT WHILE WE ARE

1:06:58 MOVING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW,

1:07:01 EXPANDING ACCESS HERE, WE'RE

1:07:02 ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE COST.

1:07:04 UM, AND WE'RE ALSO THINKING

1:07:06 ABOUT HOW MUCH GOOD IS ACTUALLY

1:07:08 BEING DONE AND YOU KNOW, HOW

1:07:09 HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY UM I THINK

1:07:12 AS A CITY WE ARE TRYING TO DO

1:07:14 EVERYTHING RIGHT AND UM OUR

1:07:16 RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR MORE

1:07:18 TOOLS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

1:07:20 UM, BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW

1:07:21 EFFECTIVE THAT IS AND HOW UM

1:07:23 AND I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS

1:07:25 DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AND I

1:07:26 JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT TERRY

1:07:27 GORMAN, DENNIS ROACH AND DANNY

1:07:29 NI WHO I WORK WITH EVERY SINGLE

1:07:30 DAY UM, WHO SHARE UH VERY

1:07:33 BLATANTLY THE REALITIES OF OF

1:07:35 THE DECISION MAKING.

1:07:37 IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY LET'S BE

1:07:39 GREEN, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S DO

1:07:41 ALL THESE THINGS THE CORRECT

1:07:42 WAY.

1:07:43 UM BUT WE HAVE TO ASK WHERE

1:07:44 WHERE ARE THESE WASTE ROOMS

1:07:45 GOING?

1:07:45 YOU KNOW HOW MUCH CO2 IS BEING

1:07:47 TAKEN OUT AND UM HOW ARE WE UM

1:07:50 HOW ARE WE DOING THAT?

1:07:51 SO IT'S YOU KNOW, A SPICE

1:07:52 OF REALITY IS ALWAYS NEEDED AND

1:07:54 I WANT TO THANK THOSE THOSE

1:07:56 THREE FOR ALWAYS GIVING US THE

1:07:58 REAL TALK OF HOW WHAT THINGS

1:07:59 ARE HAPPENING AND HOW OUR

1:08:01 CONTRACTS IMPACT THE BROADER

1:08:03 ENVIRONMENT.

1:08:03 SO THANK YOU.

1:08:05 THANK YOU COUNCILOR DURKAN.

1:08:06 I'LL ALSO TAKE SIX MINUTES AS

1:08:10 WELL.

1:08:11 THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION

1:08:13 PANEL FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK

1:08:15 THAT YOU WERE DOING.

1:08:17 THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE

1:08:18 WORKED ON SINCE I STARTED AND

1:08:21 HAS LONG SUPPORTED THE THIS

1:08:23 PLAN IN EXPANDING IT AS WELL.

1:08:26 CHRIS, LET ME JUST ASK UM, AS

1:08:30 YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE

1:08:31 NEIGHBORHOODS I REPRESENT AND

1:08:32 I'M AND I SPEND A LOT OF TIME

1:08:35 IN CHINATOWN TELL

1:08:37 ME SPECIFICALLY HOW YOU'RE

1:08:38 DOING IN CHINATOWN ON COMPOST

1:08:42 AND WHAT THE PROGRESS IS AND OR

1:08:45 THE AND OR THE LEATHER DISTRICT

1:08:47 AS WELL.

1:08:49 SO YOU MAY HAVE THE SPECIFIC.

1:08:51 STATS IF NOT UM WE MAY NEED TO

1:08:52 GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.

1:08:53 I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS VERY

1:08:54 SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR DURKIN'S

1:08:56 COMMENT IS BECAUSE OUR CURBSIDE

1:08:57 PROGRAM IS REALLY FOR BUILDINGS

1:08:58 THAT HAVE 60.

1:08:59 UNITS OR.

1:09:00 FEWER AND THERE ARE A NUMBER

1:09:01 OF BUILDINGS IN BOTH THOSE

1:09:01 NUMBERS THAT MAY HAVE THAT MAY

1:09:03 BE ABOVE THAT THERE IS THEY'RE

1:09:06 COMPOSTING MAYBE MORE BUILDING

1:09:07 SPECIFIC THAN THAT THROUGH OUR

1:09:08 OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM AGAIN AN

1:09:09 OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK WITH

1:09:11 YOU AND COUNCILOR DURKAN AND

1:09:12 OTHERS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT

1:09:13 CHANGES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO

1:09:14 MAKE GOING FORWARD TO.

1:09:15 SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES.

1:09:16 YOU MAY HAVE THE ENROLLMENT

1:09:17 NUMBERS FOR FOR.

1:09:19 CHINATOWN DISTRICT.

1:09:21 UM CURBSIDE WE DON'T HAVE TOO

1:09:23 MANY IN CHINATOWN BUT I CAN GET

1:09:25 BACK TO WE DO HAVE A PROJECT

1:09:27 OSCAR IN CHINATOWN.

1:09:28 WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE

1:09:29 WELLNESS LIAISON THERE, UH, TO

1:09:31 BRING TO THEIR ATTENTION THAT

1:09:32 THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE

1:09:33 RESIDENTS CAN USE CREATING

1:09:35 LANGUAGE ACTRESSES GIVING OUT

1:09:37 FLIERS, UH, BUT LOCAL

1:09:39 INFORMATION, UM, TO THE

1:09:40 RESIDENTS IN CHINATOWN.

1:09:42 SO SO WE DON'T HAVE MANY

1:09:44 PARTICIPANTS, UM, IN CHINATOWN.

1:09:47 IS THIS SOMETHING WE ARE ABLE

1:09:48 TO WORK ON?

1:09:50 UM, EXPAND MY AN ISSUE THAT

1:09:53 I'VE FOCUSED ON AND WORKED WITH

1:09:56 CHRIS FOR YEARS ON IS PEST

1:09:58 CONTROL AND IT'S IT'S A MAJOR

1:10:01 PROBLEM IN MY IN MY DISTRICT

1:10:03 BUT SPECIFICALLY IN CHINATOWN

1:10:05 IT'S PROBABLY THE DENSEST

1:10:07 COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE

1:10:08 CITY AND IT PROBABLY HAS THE

1:10:10 MOST RESTAURANTS AS WELL OF ANY

1:10:14 NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY AS IT

1:10:15 RELATES TO THE POPULATION.

1:10:18 UM, SO FACTORING THOSE UH HOW

1:10:21 DO WE EXPAND THE PROGRAM WITH

1:10:24 THE WITH A KEEN FOCUS ON PEST

1:10:27 CONTROL CHALLENGES?

1:10:29 I THINK WE'RE VERY WILLING TO

1:10:31 WORK WITH UH WITH.

1:10:32 YOU AND UH, AND.

1:10:33 ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS CHINATOWN

1:10:34 AROUND UH PROMOTION NOW THAT

1:10:36 THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE

1:10:38 OPPORTUNITY ESSENTIALLY COME

1:10:39 OCTOBER TO BE ABLE TO RE EXPAND

1:10:40 THE CURBSIDE.

1:10:41 PROGRAM FOR ANY HOUSING UNITS

1:10:43 THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.

1:10:43 TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS.

1:10:44 LIKE AND THEN.

1:10:45 POTENTIALLY WORK PROPERTY BY

1:10:46 PROPERTY.

1:10:47 UM, THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT

1:10:49 SET OF CONVERSATIONS FOR.

1:10:50 THE COMMERCIAL OR UH

1:10:52 INSTITUTIONAL.

1:10:53 UH FACILITIES IN CHINATOWN IN

1:10:54 THE OTHER DISTRICT.

1:10:55 UM, SO HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON

1:10:57 ON WHAT THAT COULD.

1:10:57 LOOK LIKE.

1:10:58 OKAY.

1:10:58 WHAT WOULD IT BE.

1:11:00 IF IF YOU LIVED IN A LARGE

1:11:02 BUILDING IN CHINATOWN AND A LOT

1:11:04 OF RESIDENTS ARE LIVING IN

1:11:05 THESE SMALL APARTMENTS.

1:11:10 WOULD IT BE UM EACH PERSON

1:11:12 WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BIN THAT

1:11:15 THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

1:11:17 BRINGING IT DOWN OR WOULD IT BE

1:11:18 SOMETHING MORE KIND

1:11:20 OF COMMUNITY EFFORT WHERE

1:11:22 PEOPLE COORDINATE TOGETHER IN A

1:11:25 PARTICULAR BUILDING?

1:11:28 SO THE.

1:11:29 THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS REALLY

1:11:31 SCALED TO UH BUILDINGS THAT ARE

1:11:33 SIX UNITS.

1:11:34 OR FEWER AND.

1:11:35 CONSEQUENTLY IT'S WE SHOULD DO

1:11:36 SOME.

1:11:37 WORK AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH.

1:11:38 YOU ON THIS OKAY.

1:11:39 WORKING WITH.

1:11:40 BUILDING MANAGEMENT COMPANIES

1:11:41 AROUND.

1:11:41 WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IN

1:11:42 SOME OF THE LARGER BUILDINGS

1:11:43 THAT ARE ABOVE SIX UNITS UH, IN

1:11:45 SIZE.

1:11:45 BUT IN TERMS OF.

1:11:47 UM AVAILABILITY FOR PROJECT

1:11:48 OSCAR.

1:11:48 OH, I MEAN.

1:11:49 THEY COULD ORGANIZE TO DO

1:11:51 PROJECT OSCAR DROP.

1:11:52 OFFS BY BUILDING.

1:11:53 I MEAN THEY'RE EVERYBODY'S.

1:11:55 ELIGIBLE RESIDENTIAL WAS

1:11:56 ELIGIBLE.

1:11:56 FOR PROJECT.

1:11:57 OSCAR OKAY.

1:11:58 SO WE COULD.

1:11:59 CERTAINLY LOOK INTO WHAT

1:12:00 WHAT'S THE BIN CAPACITY IN

1:12:01 CHINATOWN.

1:12:02 AND PROJECT.

1:12:02 OSCAR.

1:12:03 DO YOU WANT.

1:12:03 TO ADD A BEAN AND MARKET THAT

1:12:04 SPECIFICALLY TO SAY ARE.

1:12:06 THERE CONSTITUENTS AND

1:12:07 RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO USE

1:12:08 THAT.

1:12:09 COULD COULD WE.

1:12:10 UM, TRY TO DO A A MEETING WITH

1:12:15 THE RIGHT COMMUNITY PARTNERS,

1:12:17 COMMUNITY LEADERS?

1:12:18 THERE'S SEVERAL THAT UH,

1:12:20 SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON UH,

1:12:22 PEST CONTROL THAT ARE FOCUSED

1:12:24 ON CLEANER STREETS.

1:12:25 BUT COULD WE KIND OF DO A ZOOM

1:12:27 MEETING, UM, AND KIND OF LISTEN

1:12:30 TO THE RESIDENTS LISTEN TO YOU

1:12:32 AND SEE HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD

1:12:36 ON UM, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS

1:12:38 BEFORE THIS IS IMPLEMENTED IN

1:12:40 OCTOBER.

1:12:41 SO MAYBE MAYBE A ZOOM OVER THE

1:12:43 NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

1:12:44 IS THAT OKAY?

1:12:45 SURE.

1:12:46 ABSOLUTELY.

1:12:46 I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

1:12:47 AND TO COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE

1:12:49 POINT.

1:12:49 AND TO.

1:12:50 CHIEF.

1:12:50 SWEAT'S POINT WE CAN.

1:12:51 THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE

1:12:52 ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES WE CAN

1:12:53 PROVIDE UM.

1:12:55 UH WHETHER IT'S PROJECT OSCAR

1:12:56 OR SORT OF UH, ADVISORY SUPPORT

1:12:58 FOR BUILDINGS THAT CAN DO THAT.

1:13:00 OKAY.

1:13:02 UM.

1:13:04 MY PRIORITY AS MY PRIORITY AS A

1:13:07 CITY COUNCIL IS CERTAINLY MY

1:13:09 ENTIRE DISTRICT BUT MY MY TOP

1:13:12 PRIORITY IS THE RESIDENTS

1:13:14 OF CHINATOWN.

1:13:15 I DO WANT TO PROVIDE THEM WITH

1:13:16 THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE, THE

1:13:17 BEST NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.

1:13:19 AND I ALSO THINK THIS IS A

1:13:21 PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AS WELL.

1:13:24 UM, AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO GET

1:13:28 PEST CONTROL UH, JOHN JONELL

1:13:30 INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL.

1:13:32 UM, THE OTHER CHALLENGE, CHRIS,

1:13:35 AS YOU KNOW, IS FOR PEOPLE IN

1:13:37 CHINATOWN.

1:13:39 IT'S IT'S HARD TO HAVE A BARREL

1:13:42 IN YOUR IN YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR

1:13:44 APARTMENT OR YOUR ON YOUR

1:13:45 LITTLE WALKWAY THERE AND IT IN

1:13:48 THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED IN

1:13:50 MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR MY HOUSE IS

1:13:52 A MAJOR CHALLENGE AND IN OTHER

1:13:55 PARTS OF MY DISTRICT IS THAT

1:13:57 SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A

1:14:00 RECOMMENDATION OR A PLAN ON?

1:14:02 SO THAT'S A GREAT THING TO

1:14:03 RAISE AND I THINK VERY SIMILAR

1:14:04 TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT.

1:14:06 YOU AND COUNCILOR FITZGERALD

1:14:07 AND COUNCILOR CULPEPER AND I

1:14:09 WERE.

1:14:09 IN UH.

1:14:09 THREE NIGHTS AGO.

1:14:10 UH, YEAH.

1:14:11 HAPPY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT

1:14:13 WHAT CONTAINERIZATION MAY LOOK

1:14:14 LIKE OR SUPPORT IN SOME OF THE

1:14:16 NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE UH, WE'RE.

1:14:17 HAVING A LARGE TRASH BARREL IS

1:14:19 SIMPLY.

1:14:20 NOT A REAL.

1:14:21 FEASIBLE, UH, OPTION FOR A

1:14:22 NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS.

1:14:23 SO HAPPY TO HAVE THAT

1:14:24 CONVERSATION.

1:14:25 I THINK THE CONVERSATION WE

1:14:26 STARTED A FEW.

1:14:26 NIGHTS AGO IS A GOOD PATH TO.

1:14:28 IDENTIFYING SOME NEW SOLUTIONS.

1:14:29 OKAY THANK YOU CHRIS.

1:14:33 WE ARE GOING TO I'M GOING TO

1:14:34 CHECK TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY.

1:14:37 PUBLIC TESTIMONY OR IF THERE'S

1:14:39 ANY TESTIMONY.

1:14:40 FROM ANYONE HERE IN THE IN

1:14:42 THE CHAMBER.

1:14:43 IF YOU'D LIKE TO.

1:14:44 TESTIFY PLEASE COME ON DOWN.

1:14:45 AND IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN THE

1:14:47 DOCUMENT, UM, COME ON UP

1:14:49 ANYWAY, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.

1:14:52 TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD.

1:14:53 I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE IN

1:14:55 THE.

1:14:56 CHAMBER IS GOING TO TESTIFY,

1:14:57 BUT.

1:14:59 OKAY.

1:15:01 NO ZOOM LINKS.

1:15:02 UM, IT'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY

1:15:04 IF YOU DO WANT TO TESTIFY.

1:15:05 UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC

1:15:08 TESTIMONY AT THIS POINT.

1:15:10 UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY,

1:15:12 UH, COLLEAGUES FOR, UM, FURTHER

1:15:15 ROUND OF QUESTIONING.

1:15:16 UH, PROBABLY GO TO THREE

1:15:19 MINUTES AND UH.

1:15:25 I DO WANT TO ASK ONE OF MY

1:15:27 COLLEAGUES MAYBE COUNCIL CORTEZ

1:15:28 ABOUT UM TODAY IS POW MIA DAY

1:15:33 AND I AM SPEAKING DOWNSTAIRS

1:15:35 UM, AT THE CITY COUNCIL UM, UH

1:15:39 ,PLAZA IN A COUPLE MINUTES.

1:15:41 I MAY HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY IF

1:15:42 YOU.

1:15:43 IF YOU'RE ABLE.

1:15:43 TO FILL IN FOR ME.

1:15:44 THANK YOU.

1:15:45 OKAY.

1:15:45 UM, AT THIS TIME.

1:15:50 I WANT TO GIVE THREE MINUTES TO

1:15:52 MY CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

1:15:53 I'M GOING TO START WITH

1:15:55 COUNCILOR CLEDUS COUNCIL CUT A

1:15:56 SPOT.

1:15:57 YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

1:15:57 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

1:15:58 AND THANK YOU FOR, UM FOR

1:15:59 ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE WHILE

1:16:01 WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT,

1:16:02 UH, GOING ON OUTSIDE.

1:16:03 UM, I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT

1:16:05 THAT MY MY LITTLE ONE MY FOUR

1:16:06 MONTH OLD IS HERE WALKING IN IS

1:16:07 IN THE AUDIENCE.

1:16:08 WE CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS

1:16:09 THIS ISSUE.

1:16:09 IT'S JUST A LITTLE REMINDER

1:16:10 THAT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE

1:16:12 TODAY WILL IMPACT THE WORLD

1:16:13 THAT YOU INHERIT.

1:16:14 SO JUST REALLY GRATEFUL THAT

1:16:15 YOU COULD BE HERE.

1:16:16 UM, MY UH MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE

1:16:19 CENTERED AROUND THE STATE.

1:16:20 UM, THERE WAS A UM A COMMENT

1:16:23 THAT WAS MADE BY YOU CHIEF AND

1:16:24 TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN TALK

1:16:25 ABOUT IT BUT UM, WHAT HAVE YOU

1:16:27 HEARD FROM THE STATE ABOUT THE

1:16:28 RULES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO

1:16:29 PROMULGATE IN 2028?

1:16:31 UM, AND HOW ARE WE PREPARING

1:16:33 FOR COMPLIANCE?

1:16:34 HOW ARE WE ALREADY THERE AND

1:16:36 THEN HOW ARE WE UH, PLANNING

1:16:39 FOR UM UH OR JUST ENSURING THAT

1:16:43 EDIBLE FOOD IS RECOVERED FIRST?

1:16:45 SO TYING IN THAT FOOD

1:16:46 RECOVERY ASPECT OF IT AS YOU

1:16:48 KNOW, I FILED A FOOD

1:16:49 RECOVERY ORDINANCE THAT COMPELS

1:16:50 BIG BOX RETAILERS AND THEN SOON

1:16:52 AFTER THAT SMALL BUSINESSES TO

1:16:54 UH, PARTICIPATE IN IN A PROGRAM

1:16:56 LIKE THIS.

1:16:57 UM, HOW ARE YOU UH, CONSIDERING

1:16:59 THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE

1:17:01 RULES THAT ARE COMING DOWN FROM

1:17:02 THE STATE IN 2028 AND THEN ALSO

1:17:03 WHAT GAPS IN INFRASTRUCTURE OR

1:17:05 RESOURCES DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS

1:17:07 UM, NOW IN ORDER TO BE READY

1:17:09 FOR 2028?

1:17:10 GREAT.

1:17:11 UM SO I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME

1:17:13 OF THAT AND THEN YOU CAN TALK

1:17:14 ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

1:17:15 UM, SO I THINK SO BROADLY.

1:17:17 YOU KNOW THE STATE IS AWARE

1:17:19 THAT THERE IS A UH.

1:17:20 BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY.

1:17:21 COMMUNITY IN.

1:17:22 MASSACHUSETTS DOING CURBSIDE

1:17:24 UM.

1:17:24 FOOD WASTE COLLECTION WITH A

1:17:26 VERY.

1:17:26 SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT

1:17:27 ENDING.

1:17:28 UP IN ANAEROBIC DIGESTION.

1:17:29 SO THE.

1:17:30 STATE IS VERY AWARE THAT

1:17:31 THERE IS THIS.

1:17:31 DISCONNECT BETWEEN SUPPLY AND

1:17:33 DEMAND IN.

1:17:33 THE FOOD WASTE COLLECTION.

1:17:35 UM, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY.

1:17:37 UH.

1:17:37 IN.

1:17:37 THE SENSE.

1:17:38 THAT.

1:17:38 YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ALL LIKE

1:17:39 MORE OF THAT TO GO TO.

1:17:40 COMPOSTING AND THEN BACK ON

1:17:41 COMMUNITY GARDENS.

1:17:42 AND PEOPLE'S AGRICULTURE.

1:17:44 UM AND THAT THE SUPPLY OF THAT

1:17:46 IS AN INDUSTRY SECTOR IS NOT

1:17:47 READY TO MEET THAT DEMAND.

1:17:49 UM.

1:17:50 SO I HAVE NOT HAD UM

1:17:52 SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT

1:17:53 THEIR.

1:17:54 TIMELINE AND INTEND TO MOVE

1:17:55 FORWARD WITH THOSE POLICIES.

1:17:56 UH.

1:17:57 BUT THEY ARE AWARE OF YOU

1:17:58 KNOW, IF YOU CREATE A MANDATE

1:18:00 YES, YOU'RE CREATING.

1:18:01 A MARKET.

1:18:01 BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE ENOUGH

1:18:02 TIME FOR THAT MARKET TO.

1:18:03 THEN REACT AND AND MATERIALIZE

1:18:05 .

1:18:05 YOU KNOW, IN THE.

1:18:06 LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO.

1:18:07 IS SORT OF.

1:18:08 UM, CLOSE DOWN UH, IS CREATE

1:18:10 SOMETHING THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE

1:18:11 TO.

1:18:11 DELIVER RIGHT FROM AN ECONOMIC

1:18:13 SECTOR.

1:18:13 AND I.

1:18:13 COUNCILOR DURKAN RAISED THIS AS

1:18:14 WELL LIKE.

1:18:15 WE HAVE THAT THAT'S THE

1:18:16 CHALLENGE LIKE WE WHEN WE WENT

1:18:18 OUT TO RFP UM, A NUMBER

1:18:20 OF YEARS AGO ON.

1:18:21 OUR CURBSIDE.

1:18:23 COLLECTION, YOU.

1:18:24 KNOW, WE.

1:18:24 WERE OPTIMISTIC THAT THERE WERE

1:18:26 GOING TO BE FACILITIES.

1:18:27 COMPOST FACILITIES.

1:18:28 THAT WERE GOING TO RESPOND.

1:18:29 ON THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE

1:18:30 CAPACITY TO EAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN

1:18:31 HANDLE.

1:18:32 10% OF BOSTON'S.

1:18:33 FOOD WASTE.

1:18:34 SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT.

1:18:35 CHALLENGE HERE, UM.

1:18:36 IN.

1:18:37 THE.

1:18:37 COMPOSTING SECTOR OF.

1:18:37 SORT OF BUILDING UP THAT

1:18:38 CAPACITY.

1:18:39 UM, SO.

1:18:40 YOU KNOW.

1:18:41 I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT THE

1:18:42 STATE'S NOT GOING TO SORT OF,

1:18:43 YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH A

1:18:44 MANDATE THAT ISN'T.

1:18:45 DELIVERABLE.

1:18:45 YOU KNOW, FROM THE WASTE

1:18:46 SECTOR PERSPECTIVE.

1:18:48 UM.

1:18:49 ON THE YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE

1:18:51 GETTING ON THE FOOD RECOVERY?

1:18:52 AND I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT

1:18:53 QUESTION.

1:18:53 WE STILL HAVE A TON OF.

1:18:55 UM.

1:18:56 PERFECTLY UH.

1:18:56 NUTRITIOUS.

1:18:57 UH, HEALTHY, UH, SAFE FOOD

1:18:59 COMING INTO BOSTON THAT UM.

1:19:01 BUT FOR AN INABILITY TO GET IT

1:19:03 TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT IS GOING

1:19:04 INTO THE WASTE.

1:19:05 STREAM AND SO WE.

1:19:06 ARE SO YOU KNOW, UM.

1:19:07 I THINK YOU'VE BEEN AT THE NEW

1:19:08 MICRO FACILITY A NUMBER OF.

1:19:09 TIMES, UH.

1:19:11 WITH ME UH, IT'S BEEN

1:19:12 PHENOMENALLY SUCCESSFUL AS A

1:19:13 PROOF OF CONCEPT.

1:19:14 UH, I WOULD LIKE.

1:19:16 TO EXPLORE MORE OF.

1:19:17 THAT AND DEALING WITH MORE

1:19:18 LARGE SCALE, UM, YOU KNOW,

1:19:20 PROVIDERS OF FOOD WHETHER OR

1:19:21 NOT THEY'RE HOTELS.

1:19:22 UM.

1:19:23 HAVE WE'VE TALKED TO.

1:19:23 SOME OF THE AIRLINES THERE'S A

1:19:24 LOT OF.

1:19:25 FOOD GOING THROUGH.

1:19:26 EAST BOSTON.

1:19:26 UM, THAT MAY NOT BE GETTING ON

1:19:28 AIRPLANES.

1:19:28 AND WHERE IS THAT GOING?

1:19:29 YOU KNOW, BEFORE.

1:19:30 UH THE END OF ITS USE OF LIFE

1:19:31 UH, OBVIOUSLY OUR CONVENTION

1:19:33 CENTERS.

1:19:33 YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE.

1:19:34 SURE THAT, UM, PERFECTLY GOOD,

1:19:36 NUTRITIOUS, CULTURALLY

1:19:37 APPROPRIATE FOOD IS GETTING

1:19:38 INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE.

1:19:39 IT'S SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, SENT

1:19:40 INTO THE WASTE STREAM?

1:19:40 SO I.

1:19:41 THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE

1:19:42 WORK WITH ME THERE.

1:19:42 AND I WOULD JUST ADD COLLEGES.

1:19:44 YES.

1:19:45 COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES

1:19:45 KITCHENS.

1:19:46 YEAH EXACTLY.

1:19:46 YEP.

1:19:47 YEAH ALL.

1:19:47 OF OUR INSTITUTIONS.

1:19:48 GREAT.

1:19:49 THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN

1:19:50 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND UH,

1:19:51 ALL OF YOUR WORK I APPRECIATE

1:19:52 THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK A SECOND

1:19:53 ROUND CHAIR.

1:19:54 THANK YOU.

1:19:56 COUNCIL UM COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE

1:19:58 YOU.

1:19:58 HAVE THE FLOOR.

1:20:00 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

1:20:01 I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ASKED,

1:20:02 UM.

1:20:02 TWO OF MY.

1:20:03 REMAINING QUESTIONS.

1:20:04 I REALLY JUST HAVE ONE.

1:20:06 I BELIEVE.

1:20:06 AND IT'S ABOUT SORT OF HOW

1:20:08 WE'RE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP

1:20:09 WITH LIKE THERE ARE THERE ARE

1:20:11 SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO

1:20:13 COMPOSTING.

1:20:13 THERE ARE SMALLER LIKE

1:20:14 COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS

1:20:16 OR HEALTH INITIATIVES.

1:20:18 UM, SO HOW ARE WE LIKE ALSO

1:20:19 THINKING ABOUT WORKING WITH

1:20:20 THEM?

1:20:21 DO WE WORK WITH THEM WHEN WE'RE

1:20:22 THINKING ABOUT EXPANSION OR

1:20:23 WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE?

1:20:25 I MEAN THINKING ABOUT

1:20:26 COUNCILOR COLLETTA ZAPATA'S

1:20:27 NEIGHBORHOOD OF EAST BOSTON

1:20:28 THEY'RE SO FORWARD THINKING

1:20:29 WHEN IT COMES TO UH, COMPOSTING

1:20:33 AND GREENING OUR ENVIRONMENT.

1:20:35 SO JUST JUST UM AND I THOUGHT

1:20:37 VIKING WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO

1:20:38 TESTIFY ABOUT THAT.

1:20:39 HE'S STILL HOLDING OUT BUT, UM,

1:20:41 UH, LIKE HOW.

1:20:43 HOW ARE WE WORKING IN

1:20:44 PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM?

1:20:44 WHAT ARE WE LEARNING FROM THEM?

1:20:46 LIKE WHAT DOES YEAH.

1:20:48 THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND

1:20:49 I'LL.

1:20:50 JUST I'LL.

1:20:50 TABLE SAID A BIT ABOUT TIGER

1:20:51 CRUSHER.

1:20:53 SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS

1:20:54 WE WANT TO.

1:20:54 EXPLORE AND WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED

1:20:55 LIKE THIS IS AN INTERIM

1:20:56 SOLUTION FOR NOW BUT WE'RE YOU

1:20:57 KNOW WE STILL WANT TO ITERATE.

1:20:58 THEY'RE SCALING UP AND THEN

1:20:59 THERE'S.

1:20:59 DOWNSCALING UM AND CLEARLY

1:21:02 WE'RE ALREADY TOO BIG FOR THE

1:21:03 INDUSTRY.

1:21:03 IN MASSACHUSETTS FROM.

1:21:04 A COMPOST PERSPECTIVE.

1:21:05 BUT CAN.

1:21:06 WE PROVIDE A CENTRALIZED.

1:21:08 WASTE PICKUP SERVICE THAT THEN

1:21:09 GOES TO MULTIPLE END USERS?

1:21:11 SO COULD YOU KNOW FOOD.

1:21:12 WASTE IN THESE SPOTS AND.

1:21:13 GO TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION UM,

1:21:15 THAN FOOD WASTE UH, IN JP

1:21:17 BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE IS A

1:21:19 COMPOST FACILITY THAT'S

1:21:19 AVAILABLE AND HAS THE CAPACITY

1:21:21 TO ONLY HANDLE A NEIGHBORHOOD

1:21:22 BUT NOT THE CITY.

1:21:23 UH, AND WE CAN STILL MAKE THAT

1:21:25 EASY FOR PEOPLE TO PUT IN THE

1:21:26 GREEN BIN AND ONCE IT'S PUT IN

1:21:27 THE GREEN AND PEOPLE DON'T

1:21:28 REALLY CARE EXACTLY WHICH

1:21:29 COMPOST FACILITY IS GOING TO.

1:21:31 SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO

1:21:32 EXPLORE IN THE.

1:21:33 COMING MONTHS, UM, IS.

1:21:34 SAYING IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY

1:21:35 TO ACTUALLY UH, UTILIZE.

1:21:37 MORE COMPOST FACILITIES AT A

1:21:39 SMALLER SCALE TO SORT

1:21:40 OF PACKAGE THIS UP.

1:21:41 AND JUST TO REINFORCE THAT

1:21:43 POINT THAT ACTUALLY SORT OF IS

1:21:44 SIMILAR TO HOW WE ACTUALLY

1:21:45 HANDLE.

1:21:46 UM, TRASH AND.

1:21:47 RECYCLING TODAY WHERE

1:21:48 COLLECTIONS IS ONE SET

1:21:49 OF CONTRACT AND.

1:21:50 MANAGEMENT OF THE MATERIALS IS

1:21:51 A SECOND AND.

1:21:52 IT COULD BE.

1:21:53 A WAY BY SPLITTING THOSE

1:21:54 TWO.

1:21:54 THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CONNECT.

1:21:56 WITH CONTRACT WITH A

1:21:57 VARIETY.

1:21:58 A WIDER.

1:21:58 VARIETY OF UM.

1:22:00 ORGANIZATIONS AROUND COMPOST TO

1:22:02 YOUR POINT IS ALSO.

1:22:03 SOME PROBABLY LESSONS

1:22:03 LEARNED.

1:22:04 THAT WE CAN THINK FROM UH.

1:22:05 THE MANY.

1:22:06 ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE

1:22:06 ALREADY DOING.

1:22:07 PERHAPS ONSITE FOOD WASTE

1:22:08 COMPOSTING.

1:22:09 THAT COULD.

1:22:10 BE HELPFUL TO US AS WE THINK

1:22:11 ABOUT HOW TO.

1:22:11 SCALE THE PROGRAM FOR THAT.

1:22:12 THANK YOU.

1:22:13 ACTUALLY DO HAVE ONE MORE

1:22:14 QUESTION AND IT'S ABOUT UM, THE

1:22:17 TRANSITION TO THE LARGER

1:22:18 GALLONS OF BIWEEKLY PICKUPS.

1:22:21 SO I DON'T REALLY EXPERIENCE

1:22:22 THIS BECAUSE AGAIN I FREEZE AND

1:22:24 SO UM BUT FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T

1:22:27 FREEZING AND I TAKE IT OUT THE

1:22:29 FREEZER ON TRASH PICKUP DAY,

1:22:30 UM, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

1:22:33 I MEAN THERE'S A STAIR THERE'S

1:22:34 SMELL THERE'S UH WHAT ARE THE

1:22:36 POTENTIAL DOWNSIDES TO THE

1:22:39 BIWEEKLY PICKUP WHEN IT COMES

1:22:41 UP SMELL OR RODENT ATTRACTION

1:22:44 OR THE GROWTH?

1:22:45 UM, IF PEOPLE ARE PUTTING I

1:22:46 THINK ABOUT THIS ESPECIALLY IN

1:22:48 THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN IT'S HOT

1:22:49 AND WHEN OTHERS ARE I KNOW

1:22:51 THEY'RE THEY'RE RODENT

1:22:52 RESISTANT BUT THEY'RE OTHER YOU

1:22:54 KNOW, UM, NOT GREAT THINGS THAT

1:22:57 HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF HAVING

1:22:58 FOOD OUTSIDE FOR LONG PERIODS

1:23:00 OF TIME.

1:23:01 UM, THE USUAL.

1:23:02 ORDERS FRUIT FLIES.

1:23:05 IF IT'S OUTDOOR LONG MAGGOTS

1:23:06 STUFF LIKE THAT CAN ACCUMULATE

1:23:08 AND YOU.

1:23:09 KNOW.

1:23:09 THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE MAGGOTS

1:23:10 I DO WANT TO UM.

1:23:11 YEAH.

1:23:11 LEACHATE COULD STAY IN THERE

1:23:13 WOULD REQUIRE A CLEANING.

1:23:15 UM, AFTER UH, YOU SO THERE ARE

1:23:18 THOSE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED

1:23:19 WITH OR VERY FULL AND

1:23:22 PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S HOT

1:23:23 OUTSIDE AND I THINK FREEZING

1:23:25 RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST

1:23:26 INTERVENTION THAT WE HAVE AND

1:23:28 KEEPING THOSE OR MAYBE

1:23:29 SPLITTING IT BETWEEN TWO BINS

1:23:30 HAVING SOME MORE ON YOUR UM

1:23:34 COUNTERTOP BIN UM SPLITTING IT

1:23:36 LIKE THAT.

1:23:36 YEAH I JUST DON'T WANT THAT BUT

1:23:38 I DON'T WANT RODENT ACTIVITY

1:23:39 INCREASING INTO INDOOR FOR

1:23:40 PEOPLE AND I ALSO DON'T WANT IT

1:23:42 YOU KNOW MAGGOTS OR THE OTHER

1:23:44 ISSUES INCREASING OUTDOOR.

1:23:45 SO I JUST WANT US TO ENSURE

1:23:47 THAT WE'RE DOING TARGETED

1:23:48 EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS AND UM,

1:23:50 AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO

1:23:51 WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THAT

1:23:52 OPINION I THINK THERE'S A LOT

1:23:53 OF, UM, POTENTIAL HERE TO BUILD

1:23:56 UPON THE NATURALLY ORGANIC UH,

1:23:58 PUN THERE BUT RECYCLING AND

1:24:01 COMPOSTING THAT HAPPENS IN

1:24:03 THOSE COMMUNITIES.

1:24:04 SO THANK YOU.

1:24:06 THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MURPHY,

1:24:09 YOU.

1:24:09 HAVE THE FLOOR.

1:24:11 QUESTION IF YOU ARE A

1:24:13 PARTICIPANT IN YOUR.

1:24:14 MOVING, ARE.

1:24:15 YOU ABLE TO MAKE SURE YOU.

1:24:16 CAN BRING IN OR IF YOU'RE ON A.

1:24:18 STREET OR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HOW

1:24:19 DOES THAT WORK IF YOU'RE MOVING

1:24:23 UM YOU CAN ACCESS THE CUSTOMER

1:24:25 SERVICE AND TELL THEM THAT YOU

1:24:26 KNOW WE WON'T BE USING THIS BIN

1:24:28 ANYMORE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO

1:24:29 PICK UP AND KNOW WHAT THEY

1:24:30 DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP.

1:24:32 I'M ASKING CAN THEY CONTINUE TO

1:24:33 USE IT ON THEIR NEW STREET OR

1:24:35 IF THEY'RE MOVING TO AN

1:24:36 UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOOD, DOES

1:24:37 THAT MEAN THEY HAVE TO STOP

1:24:39 USING IT?

1:24:39 UM.

1:24:40 IF IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, IF

1:24:42 IT IS OVER SIX.

1:24:43 UNITS THEN THAT'S SOMETHING

1:24:45 THAT NEEDS TO SINGLE FAMILY.

1:24:46 IF IT IS WITHIN THAT THEN UH

1:24:48 THE KNOW GETTING PROBABLY JUST

1:24:50 UPDATE UH YOUR ADDRESS.

1:24:51 YEAH.

1:24:52 ARE THERE ANY STREETS OR.

1:24:54 NEIGHBORHOODS THEY DON'T PICK

1:24:55 UP LIKE WAS ANYONE NOT GIVEN.

1:24:58 ONE IN.

1:24:59 THE FIRST.

1:24:59 ROUND OF THE 10% BECAUSE

1:25:01 OF CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS?

1:25:02 SO OR.

1:25:03 IS.

1:25:03 EVERY STREET.

1:25:04 AVAILABLE AND WE LIKE WHAT IS

1:25:07 THE 10% NUMBER?

1:25:09 THE 10% IS SORT OF WHAT WE.

1:25:11 ARE YOU.

1:25:11 KNOW LIKE WHAT IS THE

1:25:12 ACTUAL.

1:25:13 NUMBER LIKE.

1:25:13 WE'RE $27.20.

1:25:15 SO IS ARE THE 27,000 THE.

1:25:18 FIRST.

1:25:19 27,000 NO MATTER WHERE THEY

1:25:20 LIVE JUST GOT PULLED THEIR

1:25:23 NAMES.

1:25:23 SO LONG AS THEY WERE IN A

1:25:24 BUILDING THAT WAS SIX.

1:25:24 UNITS OR.

1:25:25 FEWER, RIGHT?

1:25:25 IF THEY.

1:25:26 CHECKED OFF.

1:25:27 ALL THE BOXES TO ACTUALLY BE

1:25:29 KEPT ON A LIST OKAY.

1:25:30 YEAH, YEAH.

1:25:30 SO THERE'S NO REASON TO

1:25:31 THINK THAT IF.

1:25:32 YOU MOVED.

1:25:33 IN YOU'RE.

1:25:33 STILL IN A SINGLE FAMILY THAT

1:25:34 YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO IT JUST

1:25:37 THINKING BECAUSE I DON'T SEE

1:25:38 ANY GREEN BINS OUT IN MY.

1:25:40 YEAH.

1:25:41 THERE WEREN'T ANY

1:25:42 GEOGRAPHIC.

1:25:42 RESTRICTIONS WHEN THIS PROGRAM.

1:25:43 ROLLED OUT.

1:25:44 IT WAS JUST THE SIZE.

1:25:45 OF.

1:25:45 THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE IN AND

1:25:46 HONESTLY LIKE UM.

1:25:48 AND THAT WAS A.

1:25:49 POLICY DECISION TO BE EQUITABLE

1:25:50 AND SAY EVERYBODY'S ELIGIBLE

1:25:52 AND THEN EVENTUALLY SORT OF WAS

1:25:53 CAPPED OUT.

1:25:53 SO THE GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION

1:25:55 THAT YOU SEE NOW IS BASED ON

1:25:56 PEOPLE'S INITIAL RESPONSES.

1:25:58 UNTIL THE SCALE OF THE PROGRAM

1:25:59 HIT THE CAP THAT THE CONTRACT

1:26:01 COULD ABSORB.

1:26:01 THAT IS ALSO.

1:26:03 LIKE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT

1:26:04 THIS.

1:26:04 PROGRAM FROM LIKE A

1:26:05 TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE IS

1:26:07 INEFFICIENT BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE

1:26:08 A TRUCK GOING DOWN THE STREET

1:26:09 AND PICKING.

1:26:10 UP.

1:26:10 1 IN 1 NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE

1:26:11 THE TRUCK IS SPENDING.

1:26:12 AN HOUR, YOU KNOW.

1:26:13 IN TRAFFIC TO GO PICK.

1:26:14 UP THAT.

1:26:14 ONE CITY TO ANOTHER.

1:26:15 YEAH, YOU MIGHT ONLY.

1:26:16 SO I THINK.

1:26:17 THAT'S ONE OF.

1:26:18 THE CHALLENGES.

1:26:19 YEAH IT'S TOUGH BUT AT THE SAME

1:26:20 TIME YOU DON'T WANT TO

1:26:22 DISCOURAGE THE ONE NEIGHBOR IN.

1:26:24 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:26:25 RIGHT OKAY OKAY YEAH THANK.

1:26:28 YOU THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.

1:26:31 THANK THANK YOU,

1:26:32 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

1:26:38 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD, YOU HAVE

1:26:39 THE FLOOR.

1:26:39 THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:26:40 JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THAT.

1:26:41 BUT IF WE GO TO EVERY OTHER

1:26:42 WEEK.

1:26:43 AND WE ALLOW THE WAITING LIST

1:26:44 TO COME ON TO THE.

1:26:46 BOOKS, THEN.

1:26:47 HOPEFULLY THERE ISN'T JUST ONE

1:26:48 NEIGHBOR.

1:26:48 THAT THAT SHOULD.

1:26:49 MAKE SOME OF THE ROUTES MORE

1:26:51 EFFICIENT MIGHT ADD.

1:26:52 SOME ROUTES.

1:26:52 I GET TO BUT.

1:26:53 MIGHT MAKE THAT ONE TRIP.

1:26:54 A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

1:26:56 UM YEAH.

1:26:57 IT'S UH.

1:26:57 I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU

1:26:58 GUYS.

1:26:58 UH.

1:26:59 IT'S AN.

1:26:59 IMPORTANT THING TO TAKE ON.

1:27:00 IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE TO TAKE

1:27:02 ON OR GET.

1:27:02 PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH COMPLETELY

1:27:03 .

1:27:03 BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE

1:27:05 WORK YOU DO.

1:27:05 NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.

1:27:06 THANK YOU JEFF.

1:27:07 THANK YOU.

1:27:13 COUNCILOR DURKAN.

1:27:13 YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.

1:27:14 THANK YOU.

1:27:15 CHAIR FLYNN.

1:27:16 UM, I'M JUST HEARING MY

1:27:18 COLLEAGUES CONVERSATION.

1:27:19 THIS HAS BEEN REALLY

1:27:20 INTERESTING BECAUSE IF YOU WERE

1:27:22 TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM THE

1:27:24 CAPACITY, YOU WOULD NOT BUILD A

1:27:26 PROGRAM LIKE THIS.

1:27:28 LIKE ESSENTIALLY IF YOU WERE TO

1:27:29 WORK BACKWARDS TO SAY LIKE WE

1:27:31 HAVE THIS MUCH CAPACITY.

1:27:34 YOU WOULDN'T WANT A BUNCH

1:27:35 OF CARS DRIVING AROUND THE CITY

1:27:38 OF BOSTON AND PICKING UP

1:27:40 SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW TO HELP

1:27:42 THE ENVIRONMENT.

1:27:43 YOU WOULD SAY, OKAY, LET'S JUST

1:27:45 DO ROSLINDALE AND GP.

1:27:47 BECAUSE WE WOULD GET ENOUGH

1:27:48 COMPOSTING FROM THERE TO FILL

1:27:50 UP.

1:27:50 THE CAPACITY THERE IS AND SO I

1:27:54 GUESS I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF LIKE

1:27:56 HOW MUCH OF THIS IS TO MAKE

1:27:57 PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEIR

1:28:01 CONTRIBUTION?

1:28:01 YOU KNOW I KNOW I SHOULDN'T BE

1:28:03 SAYING THIS BUT AT THE SAME

1:28:06 TIME IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO BUILD

1:28:07 THE CAPACITY BECAUSE OTHERWISE

1:28:08 THIS PROGRAM IS NOT GOING TO

1:28:10 MAKE SENSE FOR THE FUTURE.

1:28:11 AND UM, LIKE THE CAPACITY

1:28:13 OF WHO IS TAKING THIS AND WHAT

1:28:15 HOW IT'S BEING USED UM AND I

1:28:18 JUST WANT TO SAY THE GARBAGE TO

1:28:19 GARDEN FOLKS ARE JUST

1:28:21 INCREDIBLE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE

1:28:22 DOING INCREDIBLE WORK AND

1:28:24 EVERYONE AT THE CITY OF BOSTON

1:28:25 WHO'S WORKING ON THIS IS

1:28:27 INCREDIBLE.

1:28:28 UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE

1:28:29 LIKE A MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT,

1:28:31 RIGHT?

1:28:32 YOU WOULD BE LIKE WE CAN GET

1:28:33 ENOUGH BANANA PEELS FROM JP AND

1:28:37 ROSLINDALE AND WE COULD FILL UP

1:28:40 WE COULD FILL UP RIGHT.

1:28:41 THE UH THE AMOUNT OF COMPOST WE

1:28:44 NEED TO YOU KNOW, WITH THE

1:28:46 CAPACITY THAT IS THERE.

1:28:48 UM, AND THAT'S WHY

1:28:50 COUNCILOR KENSI BOK WAS WAS A

1:28:52 GENIUS AND WANTED TO USE OUR

1:28:54 ARPA MONEY FOR CREATING, YOU

1:28:56 KNOW, FOR CREATING A FACILITY

1:28:57 THAT WOULD DO THIS.

1:28:59 UM, UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE ARPA

1:29:01 FUNDS WE HAD TO MOVE REALLY

1:29:02 QUICKLY AND THAT JUST WASN'T IT

1:29:04 WASN'T THERE WAS NO WAY THAT

1:29:06 THAT WOULD BE SITED AND BUILT

1:29:08 IN THE TIME NECESSARY.

1:29:10 UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A

1:29:12 BUNCH OF THINGS I'M THINKING

1:29:13 ABOUT, UM, BEING A CITY

1:29:16 COUNCILOR YOU REALIZE THERE'S

1:29:18 LIKE ALL THESE NICHE INDUSTRIES

1:29:19 THAT NOBODY'S IN THAT EVERYONE

1:29:21 COULD BE IN.

1:29:22 LIKE WE I THINK CHIEF SWETT AND

1:29:24 I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE RAT

1:29:26 RODENT ICE LIKE IF YOU WERE

1:29:28 TRYING TO MAKE MONEY IN THE

1:29:29 CITY OF BOSTON YOU'D BE LIKE

1:29:30 LET'S GET IN THIS RODENT ICE

1:29:31 BUSINESS BECAUSE APPARENTLY

1:29:32 THERE AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE

1:29:33 MAKING IT.

1:29:34 UM, SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF NICHE

1:29:36 INDUSTRIES THAT LIKE I THINK

1:29:37 COULD UH, SOLVE A LOT OF OUR

1:29:39 PROBLEMS.

1:29:39 UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK

1:29:41 YOU ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.

1:29:42 I THINK THIS IS NOT EASY AND,

1:29:44 UM.

1:29:44 AND WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T DESIGN

1:29:46 IT THIS WAY, BUT WE ARE WE ARE

1:29:49 SERVANTS TO THE PEOPLE

1:29:50 OF BOSTON AND THEY WANT COMPOST

1:29:51 AND WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER IT

1:29:53 FOR THEM AS EFFICIENTLY AS

1:29:55 POSSIBLE WITH THE BEST SET

1:29:56 OF VENDORS FOLLOWING ALL THE

1:29:57 PROCUREMENT LAWS.

1:29:58 AND SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO

1:30:00 THANK EVERYONE WHO WORKS ON

1:30:01 THIS.

1:30:01 I WANT TO THANK GARBAGE GARDEN

1:30:03 PROJECT OSCAR HAS BEEN A HUGE

1:30:04 SUCCESS IN MY UM DISTRICT AND I

1:30:07 THINK UH WE JUST NEED MORE

1:30:09 CAPACITY AND I THINK THAT'S THE

1:30:11 TAKEAWAY THAT I'VE HAD FROM THE

1:30:12 NOW THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING

1:30:13 WE'VE HAD ON THIS SINCE I'VE

1:30:14 BEEN ON THE COUNCIL.

1:30:16 SO THANK YOU ALL.

1:30:16 THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:30:18 YEAH.

1:30:18 JUST UH.

1:30:20 TO RESPOND TO THAT COUNCILMAN I

1:30:21 THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON.

1:30:21 THAT WE ARE UH UM WHEN WE

1:30:24 GOT STARTED IN 2014 WITH

1:30:25 PROJECT OSCAR, I WAS ONE OF THE

1:30:27 SKEPTICS THAT WOULD BOSTONIANS

1:30:28 ACTUALLY BE WILLING TO SEPARATE

1:30:29 A.

1:30:30 THIRD.

1:30:30 YOU KNOW, DO A THIRD THING

1:30:32 IN TERMS OF WASTE SEPARATION

1:30:33 AND THEN GO SOMEWHERE TO PUT

1:30:34 FOOD INTO INTO ANOTHER WASTE

1:30:36 ROOM?

1:30:37 UM, WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT

1:30:38 PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DO.

1:30:40 THINGS IN THEIR HOMES, YOU

1:30:40 KNOW.

1:30:41 IN ORDER TO BE A GOOD

1:30:42 ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS AND.

1:30:43 BRING.

1:30:43 FOOD PRODUCT BACK.

1:30:43 BUT WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH IN

1:30:45 THE PILOT.

1:30:45 PHASE OF SCALING THIS UP.

1:30:46 UH, AND SO I THINK I'M VERY

1:30:48 OPTIMISTIC THAT PEOPLE CONTINUE

1:30:49 TO DEMONSTRATE THEY'RE WILLING

1:30:50 TO TO SEPARATE THEIR WASTE INTO

1:30:52 THREE DIFFERENT STREAMS.

1:30:53 UH, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO

1:30:56 SCALE BUT THIS PROOF OF CONCEPT

1:30:57 OF LIKE CHICKEN OR THE EGG WE

1:30:58 HAVE TO PROVE THAT THERE'S A

1:30:59 PRODUCT THERE FOR THE INDUSTRY

1:31:00 TO BEGIN TO GROW.

1:31:01 I THINK WE'RE PROVEN IN BOSTON

1:31:03 THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DO

1:31:04 THIS.

1:31:04 WE HAVE LOTS OF FOOD PEOPLE WHO

1:31:05 SAID WE COULD DIVERT NOW HOW DO

1:31:07 WE GET IT OUT OF THE

1:31:08 TRADITIONAL WASTE STREAM?

1:31:08 UM, AND WE'LL SAY AT THIS WE'VE

1:31:10 ONLY BEEN AT FOOD WASTE

1:31:11 RECOVERY.

1:31:12 FOR TEN YEARS.

1:31:13 IT TOOK LIKE 50 YEARS TO GET

1:31:15 THE RECYCLING RATES THAT WE

1:31:16 HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN BOSTON.

1:31:18 UM, AND WE STILL GOT TO WORK ON

1:31:19 THOSE.

1:31:19 SO I THINK I SHARE YOUR SORT

1:31:21 OF WE WOULDN'T DESIGN THIS AT

1:31:22 SCALE BUT AND YOU KNOW FROM MY

1:31:24 PERSPECTIVE WE'RE STILL VERY

1:31:24 MUCH IN THE PILOT AND RAMP UP

1:31:26 MODE UH, AROUND FOOD WASTE

1:31:28 RECOVERY.

1:31:30 THANK YOU.

1:31:31 I WILL ALSO TAKE THREE

1:31:33 MINUTES.

1:31:34 UM, AGAIN WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

1:31:36 TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM

1:31:37 THAT'S HERE BRIAN.

1:31:38 CHRIS ESPECIALLY WANT TO SAY

1:31:40 THANK YOU.

1:31:41 TO AVANTIKA.

1:31:42 UM, VERY PROFESSIONAL

1:31:46 OUTSTANDING JOB THAT HE'S DOING

1:31:47 .

1:31:47 I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU

1:31:49 AND, UM, HOW HARD YOU WORK AS

1:31:52 WELL.

1:31:52 UM.

1:31:54 SO I KNOW WE'RE IN A PILOT

1:31:57 PHASE WITH THE COMPOSTING.

1:31:59 HOW MUCH.

1:32:00 DO WE SPEND ROUGHLY EACH

1:32:04 YEAR ON COMPOSTING.

1:32:06 THE, UM, FOOD WASTE CURBSIDE

1:32:09 COLLECTION PROGRAM ESSENTIALLY

1:32:11 2.7 MILLION FOR THIS FISCAL

1:32:12 YEAR AND THE.

1:32:13 PROJECT OSCAR PROGRAM IS ABOUT

1:32:15 $120,000.

1:32:16 OKAY, IF IT WERE TO BE.

1:32:18 EXPANDED TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN

1:32:21 THE CITY, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY

1:32:23 GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN IT.

1:32:24 WOULD I THINK THIS IS WHERE.

1:32:26 THE COUNCIL.

1:32:27 WHEN YOU WOULD BOTH HAVE THE

1:32:29 BENEFIT OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE

1:32:30 AROUND COLLECTION BUT YOU WOULD

1:32:31 RUN INTO THE CAPACITY.

1:32:32 CHALLENGES THAT EXIST WITHIN

1:32:33 THE COMMONWEALTH AROUND WHERE

1:32:35 IT GOES.

1:32:35 IF UNLESS WE WERE TO SHIP

1:32:36 MORE OF IT.

1:32:37 TO ANAEROBIC DIGESTION.

1:32:38 UM SO.

1:32:39 THAT'S YEAH WE DON'T HAVE A

1:32:40 NUMBER FOR YOU.

1:32:41 OF HOW.

1:32:41 MUCH THAT WOULD BE.

1:32:42 COULD IT BE.

1:32:43 AS HIGH AS UM 8 OR 10 MILLION?

1:32:46 IS THAT THE RANGE YOU'RE

1:32:47 TALKING ABOUT OR POTENTIALLY

1:32:48 TALKING ABOUT?

1:32:51 UM IT WOULD BE HARD TO COME UP.

1:32:53 WITH.

1:32:53 THE NUMBER RIGHT NOW.

1:32:54 SO WE UH.

1:32:54 OUR UNDERSTANDING.

1:32:55 IS.

1:32:56 THAT ADDING MORE STOPS TO THE

1:32:57 RULE DOES NOT SIGNIFICANTLY

1:32:59 CHANGE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT

1:33:01 BECAUSE WE ALSO.

1:33:02 OFFER BINS ALONG WITH THAT HAVE

1:33:04 BEEN COST US 30 BUCKS HAVE BEEN

1:33:07 UM THAT WOULD BE THE COST THAT

1:33:08 WOULD CONTINUE.

1:33:10 TO GROW IF WE GO FROM.

1:33:13 27,000 TO.

1:33:14 2 40.

1:33:14 TO 70 OKAY.

1:33:15 UH, ALONG EXISTING ROUTES I

1:33:17 MEAN THAT'S ALSO THE

1:33:18 CHALLENGES.

1:33:18 AS YOU SAW THE COLOR CODED MAP

1:33:20 THERE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS

1:33:20 WHERE WE HAVE PLENTY

1:33:22 OF EXISTING ROUTES.

1:33:22 THERE ARE A LOT

1:33:23 OF NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE DON'T

1:33:24 HAVE ANY ROUTES AND.

1:33:24 UH.

1:33:25 YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COST TO.

1:33:25 EXPAND INTO NEW ROUTES.

1:33:28 .

1:33:28 AND HOW MANY TRUCKS DO WE

1:33:30 HAVE COMPOSTING.

1:33:31 TRUCKS IN THE CITY THAT DO.

1:33:33 THESE PICKUPS?

1:33:34 THEY'RE NINE COLLECTION.

1:33:36 NINE OKAY.

1:33:39 AND IS.

1:33:40 THAT'S A CONTRACTED THAT'S

1:33:43 CONTRACTED OUT.

1:33:43 CORRECT OKAY.

1:33:45 .

1:33:45 AND SO SO WE HAVE THE

1:33:49 TRADITIONAL TRASH WE HAVE THE

1:33:52 RECYCLING TRASH.

1:33:53 WE HAVE THE COMPOSTING TRASH.

1:33:56 UM ARE THERE ANY CITIES THAT

1:33:59 ARE LOOKING AT WAYS OF SO YOU

1:34:03 HAVE THREE TRUCKS DOING DOING

1:34:05 THREE DIFFERENT THINGS BUT DO

1:34:06 YOU HAVE ANY WAY OF I DON'T

1:34:08 KNOW IF THE WORD IS CONSOLIDATE

1:34:10 OR OR STREAMLINE IT IN SUCH A

1:34:12 WAY WHERE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY

1:34:13 HAVE THREE TRUCKS YOU COULD

1:34:15 POTENTIALLY HAVE TWO TRUCKS.

1:34:17 I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST KIND

1:34:18 OF THINKING OUT LOUD.

1:34:19 WE HAVE HEARD FROM INNOVATORS

1:34:22 IN THE INDUSTRY OF HAVING UM A

1:34:24 TRUCK THAT CO-MINGLE.

1:34:25 ALL BASED SO YOU JUST BAG.

1:34:29 IT DIFFERENTLY COLOR.

1:34:30 CODED BAGS THE SAME TRUCK

1:34:31 COLLECTS THAT GOES TO.

1:34:33 A.

1:34:33 FACILITY WHERE THE SEPARATION

1:34:34 HAPPENS AT THE FACILITY.

1:34:36 UM, THERE IS THAT WE ALSO.

1:34:38 HAD I THINK SPLIT BODY

1:34:39 TRUCKS FOR A WHILE.

1:34:40 FOR RECYCLING AND TRASH BUT UM

1:34:43 I'M NOT SURE IF MANY CITIES ARE

1:34:44 STILL USING THOSE.

1:34:45 I THINK NEW YORK STILL HAS.

1:34:47 NO THAT'S THAT'S EXCELLENT.

1:34:49 UM.

1:34:54 SO I THINK WE WE.

1:34:55 DID TWO ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS AND

1:34:59 AGAIN WANT TO SAY THANK.

1:35:00 YOU TO THE.

1:35:02 PANEL FOR BEING HERE.

1:35:03 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY

1:35:05 CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES

1:35:06 BRINGING THIS FORWARD.

1:35:09 COUNCILOR CARTER ZAPATA

1:35:10 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE

1:35:11 COUNCILOR DURKAN.

1:35:15 SO TODAY'S HEARING.

1:35:19 DOCKETS 0773 IS ADJOURNED.

1:35:25 THANK YOU, THANK YOU.