City Services on September 18, 2026
2026-09-18

[0:40] GOOD MORNING.
[0:42] MY NAME IS ED FLYNN.
[0:43] CITY COUNCIL FOR DISTRICT 12.
[0:46] CHAIR OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
[0:47] COMMITTEE ON CITY SERVICES.
[0:50] TODAY IS SEPTEMBER 18TH, 2026.
[0:53] THE EXACT TIME IS TEN ZERO
[0:58] EIGHT.
[0:58] I DO APOLOGIZE FOR STARTING
[1:00] THIS MEETING EIGHT MINUTES
[1:02] LATE.
[1:03] THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED
[1:05] .
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[1:34] CITY COUNCILS.
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[1:41] MAYBE THROUGHOUT THE HEARING.
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[2:02] OUR CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON.
[2:04] LIAISON RON COBB AT RON ERWIN.
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[2:17] I ALSO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU.
[2:19] TO RON COBB FOR BEING HERE.
[2:21] AND FOR.
[2:22] ETHAN AS WELL.
[2:24] AND APPRECIATE THE CITY
[2:26] COUNCIL'S CENTRAL.
[2:27] STAFF FOR SUPPORTING THIS
[2:28] HEARING.
[2:30] TODAY'S HEARING.
[2:32] IS ON.
[2:33] DOCKET 0773.
[2:35] THIS IS AN ORDER FOR A HEARING
[2:37] TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE
[2:38] CITY OF BOSTON'S CURBSIDE FOOD
[2:41] WASTE COLLECTION PROGRAM.
[2:45] THE MATTER WAS.
[2:46] SPONSORED BY.
[2:47] CITY COUNCILORS.
[2:49] GABRIEL COLLADO ZAPATA.
[2:51] COUNCILOR SHARON DURKAN AND.
[2:53] COUNCILOR ROOTSY LOUIJEUNE, WHO
[2:55] WAS REFERRED TO THE.
[2:56] COMMITTEE ON APRIL.
[2:59] 8TH, 2026.
[3:03] TODAY I AM AND I.
[3:05] AM JOINED BY COUNCILOR.
[3:07] CLETA ZAPATA.
[3:11] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
[3:12] AT THIS TIME I DON'T HAVE
[3:19] ANY.
[3:20] LETTERS OF ABSENCE BUT IF I DO
[3:22] RECEIVE THEM I WILL READ THEM
[3:24] INTO THE RECORD.
[3:27] I'M GOING TO GIVE MY COUNCIL.
[3:30] COLLEAGUES THE OPPORTUNITY TO
[3:32] GIVE AN OPENING.
[3:33] STATEMENT AND AND.
[3:34] I WILL GIVE AN OPENING
[3:35] STATEMENT.
[3:36] AFTER THEM.
[3:36] BUT I'M GOING TO GO TO.
[3:38] COUNCIL CLETA ZAPATA TO PROVIDE
[3:41] AN OPENING STATEMENT.
[3:42] THEN I WILL GO TO COUNCIL.
[3:44] LOUIJEUNE AND THEN I'LL.
[3:45] I'LL GIVE A BRIEF ONE MYSELF.
[3:47] COUNCIL CLEDUS BARTLETT, YOU
[3:48] HAVE THE FLOOR.
[3:48] THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.
[3:50] AND THANK YOU TO MY CO-SPONSOR
[3:52] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE FOR BEING
[3:53] HERE.
[3:53] UM, I FILED THIS HEARING
[3:54] BECAUSE BOSTON HAS MADE
[3:56] MEANINGFUL PROGRESS ON FOOD
[3:57] WASTE DIVERSION.
[3:58] AND AS THE PROGRAM EVOLVES, THE
[4:00] COUNCIL SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHERE
[4:00] WE ARE, UH, WHAT IS WORKING,
[4:02] WHO STILL LACKS ACCESS AND WHAT
[4:04] IT WILL TAKE TO BUILD THE
[4:05] SYSTEM WE WANT.
[4:05] AND I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE,
[4:06] UM, FOLKS IN MINISTRATION WHO
[4:07] ARE HERE, CHIEF SWETT.
[4:08] THANK YOU.
[4:09] UM, DIRECTOR OSGOOD.
[4:11] UM.
[4:11] AND I'M SO SORRY I DON'T HAVE
[4:12] YOUR NAME.
[4:13] I WANT TO BE SURE TO GET IT
[4:14] CORRECT IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND
[4:14] JUST SAYING IT OUT LOUD.
[4:16] AVANTIKA MATHUR I WORK IN WASTE
[4:17] REDUCTION.
[4:18] OKAY.
[4:19] WHAT'S YOUR FIRST NAME?
[4:20] AVANTIKA.
[4:21] OKAY.
[4:22] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING
[4:23] HERE.
[4:23] I GOT TO GO.
[4:24] UM, OUR ZERO WASTE PLAN
[4:26] ESTABLISHED AN AMBITIOUS,
[4:27] AMBITIOUS GOAL OF DIVERTING AT
[4:29] LEAST 80% OF OUR WASTE FROM
[4:30] DISPOSAL BY 2030.
[4:32] SORRY.
[4:33] UH, 2035 FOOD WASTE HAS TO BE A
[4:35] SIGNIFICANT PART OF THAT
[4:36] CONVERSATION WHEN FOOD ENDS UP
[4:38] IN OUR TRADITIONAL TRASH STREAM
[4:40] .
[4:40] WE'RE NOT ONLY WASTING A
[4:41] RESOURCE, WE'RE ADDING
[4:42] UNNECESSARY VOLUME TO A, UH,
[4:43] WASTE SYSTEM THAT COST THE CITY
[4:45] AND HAS ENVIRONMENTAL
[4:47] CONSEQUENCES.
[4:48] OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM LAUNCHED A
[4:50] PILOT IN 2022, PROVIDES FREE
[4:52] COLLECTION TO RESIDENTS IN
[4:53] BUILDINGS WITH SIX UNITS OR
[4:55] FEWER.
[4:55] AND PROJECT OSCAR PROVIDES
[4:57] COMMUNITY DROP OFF LOCATIONS
[4:58] AVAILABLE TO RESIDENTS
[4:59] REGARDLESS OF BUILDING TYPES.
[5:01] WE KNOW DEMAND EXISTS,
[5:02] ENROLLMENT IN CURBSIDE
[5:03] COLLECTION REACH CAPACITY AND
[5:04] RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN WAITING TO
[5:06] PARTICIPATE.
[5:07] BEGINNING THIS FALL, THE
[5:09] ADMINISTRATION UH, WILL BE
[5:10] MAKING SOME CHANGES.
[5:12] UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE ARE
[5:15] UM YOU KNOW, THERE'S
[5:16] OPPORTUNITY HERE AND I LOOK
[5:17] FORWARD TO LEARNING ABOUT WHAT
[5:18] THOSE CHANGES ARE.
[5:19] AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE CLEAR
[5:21] ABOUT THE TRADE OFF FOR
[5:22] EXISTING PARTICIPANTS.
[5:23] COLLECTION FREQUENCY IS BEING
[5:25] UM, UH, TALKED ABOUT AND WE'LL
[5:28] LEARN MORE ABOUT IT TODAY.
[5:29] AND SO FINALLY I JUST WANT US
[5:32] TO UM, UNDERSTAND THE LARGER
[5:33] QUESTION WHAT BOSTON'S FOOD UH
[5:35] ,OUR LONG TERM UM, FOOD WASTE
[5:38] INFRASTRUCTURE LOOKS LIKE HOW
[5:39] DO WE BUILD A SYSTEM THAT IS
[5:40] EQUITABLE, ACCESSIBLE AND
[5:41] ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE?
[5:43] AND AGAIN, I'M GRATEFUL TO OUR
[5:44] ADMINISTRATION, OUR PARTNERS
[5:45] FOR THE WORK THAT HAS GOT
[5:46] GOTTEN US HERE AND I'M LOOKING
[5:48] FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION ON
[5:49] HOW WE BUILD IT.
[5:50] THANK YOU.
[5:51] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR.
[5:53] QUARTERS ABOUT UH.
[5:54] ,NEXT COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE
[5:56] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE YOU HAVE THE
[5:57] FLOOR.
[5:57] GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
[5:58] UM, VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.
[6:00] I WANT TO THANK MY CO-SPONSOR,
[6:01] THE.
[6:01] LEAD SPONSOR COUNCILOR GALLARDO
[6:03] .
[6:03] UH.
[6:04] ZAPATA AND ALL THE WORK THAT
[6:05] SHE DOES ON THIS ISSUE AND ON
[6:07] ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES IN
[6:08] GENERAL.
[6:08] I WANT TO THANK, UH, THE CHIEF
[6:10] FOR BEING HERE DIRECTOR AND
[6:12] AVANTIKA, THANK YOU.
[6:12] UH, IT'S NICE TO MEET YOU AND
[6:13] THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU
[6:14] DO.
[6:15] UM, I'M A BIG FAN OF OUR
[6:17] CURBSIDE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM,
[6:18] WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY
[6:19] I, UM, ASKED THE LEAD SPONSOR
[6:22] TO CO-SPONSOR UM AND I'D LIKE
[6:24] TO HEAR ABOUT SORT OF WHAT ARE
[6:25] WHAT IS THE GOOD AND THE BAD
[6:27] AND TO TALK ABOUT UM, THE
[6:29] BENEFITS OF THE UH, CURBSIDE
[6:31] FOOD PROGRAM.
[6:31] I ALSO KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW
[6:33] ME MY A FAN BUT MY MOTHER'S A
[6:34] FAN.
[6:35] MY SISTER HAS BEEN TRYING TO
[6:36] GET INTO THE PROGRAM.
[6:37] UM, AND SO I THINK IT'S A IT'S
[6:39] A I THINK IT ALSO HAS SO MANY
[6:41] OTHER BENEFITS FOR HOUSEHOLDS
[6:43] LIKE FOR ME MY TRASH NEVER
[6:45] SMELLS ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M
[6:46] FREEZING MY FOOD SCRAPS AND MY
[6:48] FOOD WASTE AND EVERY FRIDAY
[6:50] LIKE THIS MORNING I PUT IT OUT
[6:53] AND THEY COME AND PICK IT UP.
[6:54] WANT TO SHUT OUT?
[6:54] UM, HENRY WHO IS THE DRIVER WHO
[6:56] COMES EVERY FRIDAY TO PICK UP
[6:58] MY FOOD WASTE LIVES AND REBECCA
[7:00] FROM GUATEMALA.
[7:01] SO I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU
[7:02] WAITED FOR ME THIS MORNING AS I
[7:03] WAS GETTING HOME FROM THE GYM.
[7:04] UM, TODAY I CAN RUN IN MY HOUSE
[7:06] AND BRING OUT MY LITTLE MY MY
[7:07] LITTLE COMPOST BAG DIDN'T HAVE
[7:09] A LOT BUT UM SO I'M A BIG FAN
[7:11] OF THIS PROGRAM AND I'M A BIG
[7:13] FAN OF EXPANSION OF THIS
[7:14] PROGRAM AND YOU KNOW, I HAD A
[7:16] CONVERSATION KNOWING THAT THIS
[7:17] HEARING WAS HAPPENING THIS
[7:18] MORNING WITH OUT OF ME ABOUT
[7:20] SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT
[7:21] WE'RE SEEING IN THE PROGRAM.
[7:23] UM, I THINK MOSTLY FINANCIAL UM
[7:25] ,AND WANTING TO THINK ABOUT
[7:28] WHAT EXPANSION OUR PARTNERSHIP
[7:29] FOR EXPANSION COULD LOOK LIKE.
[7:31] UM, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IN A
[7:33] TIME OF FISCAL CHALLENGES FOR
[7:34] US TO WANT TO CONTINUE
[7:35] CHAMPIONING PROGRAMS THAT WE
[7:36] SEE AS NET GOODS FOR OUR CITY
[7:38] AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS?
[7:39] UM, SO YEAH, JUST LOOKING
[7:40] FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION AND
[7:41] WANT TO THANK THE LEAD SPONSOR
[7:42] FOR HER WORK.
[7:42] THANK YOU.
[7:44] AND BEFORE I GIVE A BRIEF
[7:47] STATEMENT.
[7:48] AGAIN I.
[7:48] WANT TO.
[7:49] ACKNOWLEDGE THE
[7:49] ADMINISTRATION TEAM THAT'S
[7:50] HERE.
[7:51] BRIAN SWEAT, THE CHIEF OF.
[7:53] ENVIRONMENT ENERGY CLEAN SPACE
[7:56] CHRIS OSGOODE CHIEF OF STREETS.
[7:58] AND AVANTIKA, UH, THANK YOU
[8:03] FOR.
[8:03] BEING WITH US AS WELL.
[8:04] THANK YOU.
[8:04] FOR THE IMPORTANT.
[8:04] WORK THAT YOU WERE DOING.
[8:07] UM, AND THANK YOU TO THE
[8:09] SPONSORS IN THE ADMINISTRATION
[8:10] FOR.
[8:11] JOINING US.
[8:11] THE CURBSIDE FOOD WASTE PROGRAM
[8:14] IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR
[8:15] RESIDENTS TO TURN THEIR FOOD
[8:18] SCRAPS INTO FERTILE SOIL.
[8:20] INSTEAD OF.
[8:21] SENDING IT TO THE LANDFILL.
[8:22] THIS PILOT SHOULD BE EXTENDED.
[8:26] AND MADE MORE.
[8:27] AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS ACROSS
[8:28] THE CITY.
[8:30] AT THE SAME TIME, I DO BELIEVE
[8:31] IT'S.
[8:31] IMPORTANT THAT.
[8:32] THE.
[8:33] CONTAINERS THAT.
[8:33] ARE USED ARE PROPERLY SEALED TO
[8:36] ADDRESS THE SERIOUS PUBLIC
[8:37] HEALTH QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES
[8:40] OF PEST CONTROL.
[8:43] UM MY WIFE AND.
[8:44] I ARE.
[8:45] I THINK.
[8:45] WE'RE THE ONLY.
[8:46] HOUSE ON.
[8:47] OUR.
[8:47] STREET THAT IS PART OF THE
[8:49] PILOT IN SOUTH BOSTON.
[8:51] IT'S VERY LIMITED.
[8:53] AND IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM,
[8:56] WHICH IS THE LOW.
[8:57] RENT SECTION.
[8:57] OF SOUTH BOSTON.
[8:58] BUT WHEN WE PUT OUR LITTLE
[9:00] GREEN BARREL OUT EVERY FRIDAY,
[9:03] PEOPLE ASK ME FREQUENTLY HOW DO
[9:05] WE.
[9:06] EXTEND THE PROGRAM?
[9:07] UM, SO I WANT.
[9:08] TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR
[9:10] SPONSORS FOR.
[9:10] FOR DOING THAT.
[9:13] I ALSO THINK THAT THERE'S AN.
[9:14] OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO EDUCATE
[9:15] RESIDENTS ABOUT HOW TO PROPERLY
[9:17] SEPARATE.
[9:18] AND STORE FOOD WASTE SO THAT
[9:21] EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS HOW TO
[9:22] PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM
[9:24] EFFECTIVELY CLEAR.
[9:25] GUIDANCE IN OUTREACH WILL BE
[9:27] CRITICAL AS WE LOOK TO EXPAND.
[9:29] THE PROGRAM TO.
[9:31] OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
[9:32] UM ACROSS THE CITY.
[9:34] I ALSO BELIEVE PART OF THE
[9:36] SOLUTION ALSO INCLUDES.
[9:38] UM LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION.
[9:40] ACCESS AND ENSURING THAT.
[9:42] WE'RE ABLE TO EXPAND THIS.
[9:44] PROGRAM INTO.
[9:46] COMMUNITIES OF COLOR BUT ALSO.
[9:48] FOCUSING ON UM, NEIGHBORHOODS
[9:52] THAT.
[9:53] HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN
[9:56] CHALLENGING UM FOR.
[9:57] THE FOR VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL.
[10:01] UM CONCERNS.
[10:01] SUCH AS SUCH.
[10:03] AS CHINATOWN OR.
[10:04] THE LEATHER DISTRICT OR.
[10:05] THE.
[10:05] SOUTH END AS WELL PUBLIC.
[10:06] HOUSING I'M GOING TO STOP.
[10:08] THERE AND.
[10:11] UH.
[10:12] CHIEF.
[10:12] DO YOU WANT TO START.
[10:14] WITH AN OPENING.
[10:15] STATEMENT THEN THEN YOU CAN
[10:17] PASS IT ALONG.
[10:18] TO.
[10:18] WHOEVER ELSE.
[10:18] IN YOUR TEAM WOULD.
[10:19] LIKE TO.
[10:19] GIVE AN OPENING STATEMENT.
[10:20] THAT SOUNDS GREAT.
[10:21] UH, SO AGAIN, CHRIS OSGOOD,
[10:23] GLAD TO BE HERE.
[10:24] THANK YOU TO THE THREE OF YOU
[10:25] FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND
[10:26] PARTNERSHIP ON THIS WORK.
[10:27] UM, JOINED BY CHIEF BRIAN
[10:29] SWEAT, UM AND JOINED BY ABOUT A
[10:31] THIRD WHO'S THE DIRECTOR
[10:32] OF WASTE POLICY AND PLANNING
[10:33] FOR THE CITY WANT TO GIVE A LOT
[10:35] OF CODE TO AMANDA AS WELL AS
[10:37] DENNIS ROACH, OUR
[10:38] SUPERINTENDENT OF WASTE
[10:39] REDUCTION, UH, WHO HAS DONE A
[10:40] LOT OF WORK AROUND THIS.
[10:42] UM, WE WERE GOING TO DO A VERY
[10:44] QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR WASTE
[10:45] SERVICES IN GENERAL FOOD WASTE
[10:47] IN PARTICULAR SOME OF THE
[10:48] CHANGES THAT COUNCILOR ZAPATA
[10:49] TALKED ABOUT.
[10:50] UH, AND THEN AS ALL THREE
[10:51] OF YOU TOUCHED ON SORT OF THE
[10:52] UM THE PATH AHEAD REALLY
[10:54] STARTING WITH I CAN ADVANCE THE
[10:57] SLIDE.
[11:02] JUST STARTING WITH A QUICK
[11:03] PICTURE OF UH OVERALL UH UH,
[11:07] WASTE VOLUMES IN THE CITY
[11:09] OF AUSTIN.
[11:09] UM, SO THERE'S ABOUT 1.1
[11:12] MILLION TONS OF WASTE THAT ARE
[11:13] GENERATED IN THE CITY
[11:14] OF AUSTIN.
[11:14] THIS IS FROM A 2018 UH, WASTE
[11:16] AUDIT.
[11:17] ROUGHLY 80% OF THAT IS FROM THE
[11:19] COMMERCIAL INSTITUTIONAL UH OR
[11:22] INDUSTRIAL SPACE.
[11:22] SO ABOUT 20% OF THAT IS
[11:23] ACTUALLY FROM OUR HOMES.
[11:24] 20% OF THAT IS UH, REALLY THAT
[11:26] CURBSIDE COLLECTION, UH, THAT
[11:28] THE CITY FOCUSES ON UH AND
[11:30] DELIVERS THROUGH ITS PUBLIC
[11:31] WORKS DEPARTMENT.
[11:31] SO ABOUT 240,000 TONS THAT ARE
[11:33] COLLECTED FROM ABOUT 250,000
[11:35] HOUSEHOLDS.
[11:37] UM THAT SERVICE THAT WE PROVIDE
[11:39] UH, EVERY UH EVERY WEEK UH,
[11:42] ACROSS THE CITY UM IS UH COST
[11:45] ABOUT $70 MILLION A LITTLE OVER
[11:47] $70 MILLION IN OVERALL
[11:48] INVESTMENT, UM, THAT THOSE
[11:50] CONTRACTORS ARE IN THREE
[11:51] DIFFERENT PLACES.
[11:52] IT'S ABOUT $45 MILLION
[11:54] OF CONTRACT COSTS ON THE
[11:55] COLLECTION SIDE, THIS IS THE
[11:57] ACTUAL SORT OF THE PICKUPS THAT
[11:58] ARE HAPPENING OF UH OF TRASH
[11:59] AND RECYCLING OF YARD WASTE
[12:01] ABOUT $20 MILLION OF DISPOSAL
[12:03] FOR TRASH AND RECYCLABLES THAT
[12:05] GO TO A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT
[12:06] PLACES A MATERIALS
[12:08] RECOVERY FACILITY IN
[12:08] CHARLESTOWN, UH, IN THE CASE
[12:11] OF UH, OUR RECYCLABLES AND
[12:13] SEVERAL SEVERAL WASTE ENERGY
[12:14] PLANTS IN THE CASE OF OUR TRASH
[12:15] AND THEN ABOUT $8 MILLION UM,
[12:17] THAT FUNDS THINGS LIKE OUR FOOD
[12:19] WASTE PROGRAM THAT WE'RE GONNA
[12:20] TALK MORE ABOUT MATTRESS
[12:21] COLLECTION AND THE HOUSEHOLD
[12:22] HAZARDOUS WASTE IS, UH, THAT.
[12:24] THE.
[12:24] TEAM RUNS, UM, ACROSS THE CITY
[12:26] THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
[12:27] UM, THAT IS THE FINANCIAL
[12:28] PICTURE.
[12:28] THIS IS LARGELY OBVIOUSLY A
[12:29] CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, FOOD
[12:31] WASTE.
[12:31] AND AS ALL OF YOU TOUCHED ON IN
[12:33] YOUR OPENING REMARKS, UM, THIS
[12:34] HAS BEEN A HUGE FOCUS FOR US
[12:35] REALLY SINCE OUR RELEASE OF THE
[12:37] ZERO WASTE PLAN.
[12:39] UH, IN UH IN 2019.
[12:41] UM, BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A LARGE
[12:42] PART OF THE WASTE STREAM AND
[12:44] THERE'S SO MUCH POTENTIAL FOR
[12:46] UM WHAT COULD BE DONE WITH THAT
[12:47] IF IT IS TAKEN OUT OF THE TRASH
[12:49] AND SORT OF HANDLED, UH, IN A
[12:51] DIFFERENT WAY WHETHER IT IS UH
[12:52] FROM A UH RODENT ABATEMENT
[12:54] PERSPECTIVE OR ENVIRONMENTAL
[12:55] PERSPECTIVE OR COST PERSPECTIVE
[12:57] UM, WHAT YOU SEE IN THE UPPER
[12:58] RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THIS SLIDE
[12:59] IS A PIE CHART THAT SHOWS THE
[13:02] UM, A BREAKDOWN OF WASTE THAT
[13:04] IS GOING UM THAT IS COMING FROM
[13:06] BOSTON GOT A SNAPSHOT FROM
[13:08] ROUGHLY 2018 BUT SHOWS IN THAT
[13:10] SORT OF LIGHT BLUE WEDGE THAT
[13:11] ABOUT A THIRD OF WHAT WE ARE
[13:13] DISPOSING IS COMPOSTABLE,
[13:14] WHETHER THAT IS YARD WASTE OR
[13:15] FOOD WASTE THERE'S A HUGE
[13:16] OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THINGS OUT
[13:17] OF THE WASTE STREAM, UM, AND
[13:20] REDIRECT THEM.
[13:20] AND AS BOTH OF YOU HAVE ALL
[13:22] OF YOU HAVE TOUCHED ON UM THERE
[13:23] ARE TWO PRINCIPAL PILOT
[13:24] PROGRAMS WE HAVE BEEN RUNNING
[13:25] UH, TO DO JUST THIS IN 2014 WE
[13:28] LAUNCHED SOMETHING CALLED
[13:29] PROJECT OSCAR UH, WHICH IS OUR
[13:32] 24 765 UH AVAILABLE BINS THAT
[13:34] PEOPLE CAN DROP OFF FOOD WASTE
[13:36] AT.
[13:36] THERE'S 20 OF THOSE ACROSS THE
[13:38] CITY OF BOSTON.
[13:40] UH, WE COLLECT ABOUT 132 TONS,
[13:42] UH, OF FOOD WASTE EVERY YEAR
[13:44] THROUGH THAT PROGRAM.
[13:46] UM, AND ALWAYS LOOKING FOR
[13:47] FEEDBACK ABOUT WHERE TO SORT
[13:48] OF EXPAND OR ADJUST THAT
[13:49] PROGRAM.
[13:50] WE'LL GET A LITTLE BIT MORE
[13:51] INTO THE.
[13:51] NUMBERS IN A MOMENT.
[13:52] THAT PROGRAM COSTS ABOUT
[13:54] $120,000.
[13:54] UM, THE OTHER PROGRAM IS OUR
[13:56] CURBSIDE COLLECTION PROGRAM.
[13:57] UH, THIS ONE WAS LAUNCHED IN
[13:59] 2022.
[14:00] UM, TODAY IT SERVICES ABOUT
[14:02] 27,000 UH UH HOUSEHOLDS AS
[14:05] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE UH SIR
[14:06] REFERENCED THERE IS A WAITLIST
[14:07] UH THAT WE WILL GET MORE INTO
[14:09] THAT WE NOW HAVE A PATH TO BE
[14:11] ABLE TO UM TO BRING EVERYBODY
[14:13] WHO'S ON THE WAITLIST INTO THE
[14:14] PROGRAM.
[14:15] UH, AND THROUGH THAT PROGRAM
[14:16] WE'RE COLLECTING AROUND 20, UH
[14:18] ,2800 TONS.
[14:19] ANNUALLY OF FOOD WASTE.
[14:20] UM, SO A SIGNIFICANT
[14:22] OPPORTUNITY UM, AND A
[14:23] SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS IN THOSE
[14:24] PROGRAMS.
[14:25] THIS NEXT SLIDE IS JUST A QUICK
[14:27] UH, SNAPSHOT OF THE GROWTH THAT
[14:28] WE'VE SEEN IN THE CURBSIDE
[14:30] COLLECTION PROGRAM AGAIN,
[14:31] STARTED WITH ABOUT 10,000
[14:32] ENROLLED UH PARTICIPATING UH
[14:34] HOUSEHOLDS UH, IN UH IN 2022
[14:39] CLIMBED UP TO UH HIGH POINT
[14:41] OF UH 28,000 ENROLLED.
[14:43] WE DID NOTICE THAT A NUMBER
[14:45] OF HOUSEHOLDS THAT WERE
[14:45] ENROLLED ACTUALLY WEREN'T USING
[14:46] THE PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHY WE
[14:47] ARE NOW DOWN AT UM 2700 OR
[14:51] 27,000 PARTICIPATING HOUSEHOLDS
[14:52] OUT OF THE ENTIRETY OF 200,000
[14:54] HOUSEHOLDS WE SERVE IN THE CITY
[14:55] OF BOSTON, UM FOR TRASH AND
[14:57] RECYCLING SERVICES.
[14:59] UM, AGAIN, WE HAVE A WAITLIST
[15:00] RIGHT NOW OF ABOUT 1600 UH, IN
[15:03] OUR CITY UM, ON THE LEFT YOU.
[15:05] SEE, UM, THE.
[15:06] ROUGH BREAKDOWN OF ENROLLMENT,
[15:08] UM, IN OUR CURBSIDE COLLECTION
[15:10] PROGRAM BY NEIGHBORHOOD, UH,
[15:11] WITH DORCHESTER AND JAMAICA
[15:13] PLAIN.
[15:13] AS THE.
[15:14] TWO LARGEST PARTICIPATING UH,
[15:15] NEIGHBORS.
[15:16] THESE NUMBERS ARE INCREDIBLY
[15:18] SMALL, BUT WE WILL MAKE SURE WE
[15:19] GET THE, UH, THE DECK TO ALL
[15:21] OF THESE OR SEE WHAT THAT
[15:22] BREAKDOWN LOOKS LIKE.
[15:24] UH, AND THEN ON THE RIGHT.
[15:26] YOU CAN SEE.
[15:27] UM, THE TONNAGE THAT WE ARE
[15:28] COLLECTING UM, BY NEIGHBORHOOD
[15:30] UH, THROUGH THE PROJECT OSCAR
[15:31] PROGRAM, UH, WITH A FAIR AMOUNT
[15:34] OF PEOPLE COMING FROM UH,
[15:35] JAMAICA PLAIN, THE SOUTH END
[15:37] OF THE NORTH END, UM, AS WELL
[15:38] AS UH FROM CHARLESTOWN UM, AS
[15:41] WE ARE UH, COLLECTING THIS WE
[15:45] WANT TO MAKE SURE AS ALL OF YOU
[15:46] REFERENCED, UM, THAT WE ARE
[15:48] TAKING THIS TO LOCATIONS THAT
[15:50] ARE UM, UH IN ORDER TO MAXIMIZE
[15:53] THE ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE OF THE
[15:55] FOOD WASTE AND WE ARE DOING
[15:56] THAT IN SOME CASES BUT THERE'S
[15:57] PROGRESS CERTAINLY FOR US TO
[15:58] MAKE UH, IN THIS REGARD.
[16:01] SO FOR PROJECT OSCAR, ALL 132
[16:03] TOWNS THAT WE COLLECT, UM, ARE
[16:05] HANDLED BY OUR PARTNER, UH,
[16:07] CALLED BLACK EARTH, UH, WHO
[16:09] TAKE.
[16:10] THE UH.
[16:11] THE FOOD WASTE, UM, ESSENTIALLY
[16:13] TO OUR COMPOSTING FACILITY, UH,
[16:15] IN THE NORTH SHORE, UH, TO BE
[16:17] CONVERTED INTO COMPOST THAT CAN
[16:18] BE USED FOR IT AS A HIGH
[16:19] QUALITY, UM, SOIL ADDITIVE UH
[16:23] UH, FOR UH FOR HOUSEHOLDS UM.
[16:26] THE LARGEST SOURCE OF FOOD
[16:29] WASTE FOR US THOUGH IS
[16:30] OBVIOUSLY THE CURBSIDE
[16:30] COLLECTION PROGRAM AT ABOUT
[16:33] 2800 TONS ANNUALLY.
[16:35] UM, OF THAT 2800 TONS A PORTION
[16:37] OF IT DOES GO TO COMPOSTING.
[16:38] THIS AGAIN IS OF THE HIGHER
[16:40] QUALITY UM UH OUTPUT FROM FOOD
[16:43] WASTE ABOUT 15 TO 20% OF IT IS
[16:45] TAKEN TO A A DIFFERENT UH,
[16:46] NORTH SHORE COMPOSTING
[16:48] FACILITY.
[16:48] BUT 80 TO 85% OF IT IS ACTUALLY
[16:51] CO-MINGLED AT UM THE UH GREATER
[16:53] LAWRENCE UH, SANITARY DISTRICT
[16:55] WITH UM, UH WITH WASTEWATER AND
[16:57] THROUGH AN ANAEROBIC DIGESTION
[17:00] DIGESTED UH DIGESTION FACILITY
[17:02] UH, IN THERE THE VAST MAJORITY
[17:04] OF IT IS CONVERTED INTO BIOGAS
[17:05] AND SOME UM PORTION OF IT ABOUT
[17:08] ANOTHER 15% BECOMES DIGESTED
[17:10] WHICH CAN BE ADDED AS A
[17:12] FERTILIZER.
[17:12] UM AND.
[17:13] ONE OF THE THINGS WE'LL TALK A
[17:14] LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THIS THAT
[17:15] WE ARE INTERESTED IN IS FINDING
[17:16] A WAY TO WORK WITH OTHER
[17:18] MUNICIPALITIES AND ACROSS THE
[17:18] COMMONWEALTH TO EXPAND THE
[17:20] COMPOSTING CAPACITY, UH, WHICH
[17:22] IS UH TO SOME DEGREE A
[17:24] LIMITATION ON UH HOW MUCH WE
[17:26] CAN EXPAND THE PROGRAM TOWARDS
[17:28] TAKING FOOD WASTE AND
[17:30] DELIVERING UH, ACTUAL COMPOST
[17:31] AS A RESULT OF IT.
[17:33] UM, TO QUICKLY TALK ABOUT SORT
[17:34] OF HOW WE'VE BEEN.
[17:35] UH.
[17:36] COMMUNICATING THESE PROGRAMS
[17:37] AND THIS BILL IS
[17:38] COUNCILOR FLYNN OFF OF UH.
[17:39] A COMMENT THAT YOU MADE UM.
[17:41] THE A LOT OF TO HAVE TO GO AND
[17:43] A LOT OF CREDIT TO THE WASTE
[17:44] REDUCTION TEAM.
[17:45] THERE'S BEEN A CERTAIN AMOUNT
[17:45] OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH UM, BOTH.
[17:49] ON THE MBTA SORT OF.
[17:50] IN UH IN COMMUNITIES.
[17:51] AND ONLINE INCLUDING.
[17:53] UH TRANSLATING THE MATERIALS UH
[17:55] INTO UH FIVE DIFFERENT
[17:56] LANGUAGES SO THAT WE ARE
[17:57] EXPANDING THE NUMBER OF UH OUR
[17:59] CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE AWARE
[18:00] OF AND CAPITAL SPENT IN UH IN.
[18:02] THE.
[18:02] PROGRAM OVERALL.
[18:06] UM, ONE OF THE THINGS.
[18:07] THAT WE HAVE.
[18:08] HEARD UH, SORT OF LOUD AND
[18:09] CLEAR IS THAT UH, THERE IS A.
[18:11] WAITLIST OF.
[18:12] PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE ABLE
[18:13] TO JOIN.
[18:13] THE CURBSIDE COMPOSTING PROGRAM
[18:14] .
[18:15] THAT IS WHY, UM, WE ARE
[18:17] SWITCHING THE, UH, CORE REASON
[18:18] WHY WE ARE SWITCHING THE.
[18:20] WEEKLY PROGRAM TO A BIWEEKLY
[18:22] PROGRAM IN OCTOBER UM, STARTING
[18:24] ON OCTOBER 5TH.
[18:25] BY GOING FROM WEEKLY TO BY
[18:26] WEEKLY.
[18:27] IT HAS SEVERAL ELEMENTS THAT
[18:29] WHICH UH CAN.
[18:30] BE ADVANTAGEOUS ONE IT ALLOWS
[18:32] US TO BE ABLE TO.
[18:33] ACTUALLY HAVE.
[18:34] EVERYBODY WHO'S ON THE.
[18:34] WAITLIST.
[18:35] UM, BE.
[18:36] ABLE.
[18:37] TO UH, ENROLL IN THE PROGRAM.
[18:38] SECOND ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE
[18:39] EXPAND THE CAPACITY SO WE
[18:41] ACTUALLY CAN GO BEYOND THE
[18:42] WAITLIST TO ADD ADDITIONAL
[18:43] ENROLLEES, UH, ACROSS THE CITY
[18:44] OF BOSTON.
[18:45] UM, THAT WILL EXPAND US FROM
[18:48] 2800 2700 TO.
[18:50] UM IDEALLY.
[18:50] NUMBERS WHICH ARE FAR BEYOND
[18:52] THE WHAT THE CURRENT PILOT HAS
[18:53] AND GET US A HIGHER PERCENTAGE
[18:55] OF OVERALL HOUSEHOLDS IN BOSTON
[18:56] THAT ARE ENROLLED.
[18:57] IT ALSO SORT OF BETTER MATCHES
[18:58] WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY SEEING.
[18:59] ON THE STREET.
[19:01] SO UH, GARBAGE REGARDLESS WHO
[19:02] IS OUR TERRIFIC CONTRACTOR FOR
[19:03] THAT PROGRAM.
[19:05] IS SEEING THAT.
[19:05] ROUGHLY 70% OF THE GREEN.
[19:07] BINS THAT.
[19:07] YOU HAVE ALL REFERENCED ARE
[19:08] SORT OF OUT THERE, UH, PICKUP
[19:10] TIME NOT.
[19:11] EVERYBODY IS USING UH THE UH
[19:13] THE PICKUP INS.
[19:15] UH EVERY SINGLE WEEK.
[19:16] AND SO BY GOING TO BI WEEKLY WE
[19:18] PROBABLY.
[19:18] BETTER MATCH THE WAY IN WHICH
[19:19] THE SERVICE HAS.
[19:20] ACTUALLY BEEN USED.
[19:21] AND IN ADDITION TO HAVE FEWER
[19:23] VEHICLES NECESSARILY DRIVING ON
[19:24] CITY STREETS FOR PICKUP DURING
[19:25] UH DURING COLLECTION DAYS, UM,
[19:28] YOU ACHIEVE THAT BALANCE.
[19:29] WE ALSO UH.
[19:30] THROUGH.
[19:31] THIS UH.
[19:31] SWITCH SAVE ABOUT $7,000
[19:33] OF OVERALL COSTS UH, IN THE
[19:34] PROGRAM WHICH IS ANOTHER
[19:35] IMPORTANT CONSIDERATION FOR US.
[19:37] UM, WHAT THIS WILL.
[19:39] ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE UH, IS.
[19:41] ESSENTIALLY HAVING.
[19:41] THE COLLECTION SCHEDULE.
[19:43] UM, BE.
[19:44] IN TWO DIFFERENT ZONES UH.
[19:45] WILL BE.
[19:46] UM ZONE A WHICH WILL.
[19:47] HAVE A.
[19:48] COLLECTION UH, ITS BIWEEKLY
[19:49] COLLECTION.
[19:50] SCHEDULE STARTING ON
[19:51] OCTOBER 5TH BETWEEN NOW AND
[19:52] OCTOBER 5TH IT WILL REMAIN ON
[19:54] WEEKLY SCHEDULE.
[19:55] UM ESSENTIALLY THAT ZONE THAT
[19:57] YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN WOULD
[19:59] HAVE UH A COLLECTION ON.
[20:01] OCTOBER 5TH A WEEK.
[20:03] OF.
[20:03] OCTOBER 5TH AND THEN THE WEEK
[20:04] OF OCTOBER 19TH.
[20:05] UH, AND THEN STARTING.
[20:06] UH THE WEEK OF OCTOBER.
[20:08] 12TH OF A WEEKLY SCHEDULE
[20:09] FOR.
[20:09] THE ZOMBIE UH, WOULD.
[20:10] START THERE'S.
[20:11] BEEN.
[20:11] A HUGE AMOUNT OF UM
[20:13] COMMUNICATION WHICH HAS STARTED
[20:14] AND MORE.
[20:15] TO.
[20:15] COME UH, TO UH INDIVIDUALS WHO
[20:17] ARE.
[20:17] ENROLLED IN THIS PROGRAM.
[20:19] UH, THAT'S GOING TO INCLUDE.
[20:21] UH DIRECT OUTREACH AT
[20:23] RESIDENCES UH.
[20:24] DIGITAL COMMUNICATIONS.
[20:25] WHICH HAVE ALREADY STARTED
[20:26] UH AND MORE TO COME AND WE
[20:27] CERTAINLY WELCOME YOUR FEEDBACK
[20:28] AND IDEAS AND APPRECIATE THIS
[20:29] HEARING AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR
[20:31] US TO COMMUNICATE THIS PROBABLY
[20:32] TO UH TO CONSTITUENTS.
[20:35] UM, ONE TWO OTHER BITS
[20:37] OF CONTEXT WHICH.
[20:38] UH.
[20:38] DEFINITELY BOTH UH CHIEF
[20:39] SWEAT AND ABOUT TO PLEASE FEEL
[20:41] FREE TO UM.
[20:42] UH ADD HERE.
[20:43] UM ONE THING WHICH IS.
[20:45] I THINK IMPORTANT LONGER
[20:46] TERM CONTEXT.
[20:47] AS.
[20:47] WE LOOK.
[20:47] AT THIS.
[20:48] PROGRAM IS THAT.
[20:49] MASTER DPI UM.
[20:49] HAS BEEN.
[20:50] LOOKING AT A SERIES OF UH
[20:52] OF WAISTBANDS UM, LOOKING AT UH
[20:54] PRINCIPALLY RIGHT NOW UM.
[20:56] A UM.
[20:57] COMMERCIAL FOOD WASTE.
[20:58] UM, BUT THEY HAVE.
[20:59] SIGNALED THEY WOULD EXPECT.
[21:01] TO THE IN THE RESIDENTIAL.
[21:02] UH.
[21:02] FOOD WAISTBAND THAT THAT
[21:04] COULD COME INTO.
[21:05] UH INTO PLAY UM.
[21:06] NOT BEFORE.
[21:07] 2028.
[21:08] IMPORTANTLY WE ACTUALLY UH.
[21:10] THROUGH THE PROGRAMS THAT WE
[21:11] HAVE ALREADY.
[21:12] UH UH, ALREADY OUTLINED UH.
[21:14] WE ARE ACTUALLY.
[21:15] UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT WE
[21:17] WOULD EXPECT DPI.
[21:18] TO PROMULGATE IN 2028.
[21:20] SO WE ARE SEVERAL STEPS AHEAD
[21:21] OF UM OF WHAT THE WHAT.
[21:24] WE'VE PUT IN PLACE AND HAVE
[21:25] BASICALLY BEEN.
[21:25] IN.
[21:26] COMPLIANCE SINCE 2022 SINCE THE
[21:27] START OF OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM.
[21:29] ALL RIGHT LAST QUICK SLIDE.
[21:31] UM AND PROBABLY TURN IT OVER TO
[21:32] MY FELLOW PANELISTS FOR ANY UH,
[21:34] ADDITIONS AND CORRECTIONS AND
[21:35] TO ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
[21:36] UM.
[21:37] AS WE.
[21:38] LOOK AT WHAT'S AHEAD,
[21:38] THERE'S SORT OF THREE AREAS
[21:39] THAT WE ARE VERY FOCUSED ON.
[21:41] ONE IS UNDERSTANDING SORT
[21:42] OF HOW ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE
[21:44] WE CAN.
[21:45] CONTINUE TO.
[21:46] EXPAND ENROLLMENT AS ALL OF YOU
[21:47] SPOKE.
[21:48] ABOUT INCREASED.
[21:48] TONNAGE AND INCREASE
[21:50] UTILIZATION.
[21:50] AND IN THE NEAR TERM THAT'S
[21:52] GOING TO.
[21:52] BE A FOCUS ON.
[21:54] UH LOOKING AT UH, HOW THE
[21:55] SERVICE CHANGE HAS ALLOWED US
[21:57] TO DO OR IMPACTED THOSE THREE
[21:58] THINGS.
[21:59] HAVE WE ACTUALLY ENROLLED MORE
[22:01] UH, CONSTITUENTS?
[22:02] WE BELIEVE THIS.
[22:02] IS A CLEAR PATH TO DO THAT.
[22:03] WILL THAT ALLOW US TO EXPAND
[22:05] TONNAGE?
[22:05] DOES THAT BETTER MATCH THE
[22:06] ACTUAL SERVE FREQUENCY
[22:08] OF PICKUP.
[22:08] WITH THE USE OF THE PROGRAM?
[22:09] THE SECOND THING WHICH IS
[22:11] IMPORTANT.
[22:11] AND UH CHIEF, SO I CAN TALK
[22:13] MUCH MORE ABOUT THIS THAN I CAN
[22:15] BUT UH, THIS IS.
[22:16] ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO
[22:17] THINK.
[22:18] ABOUT ALL OF THOSE PARTS OF OUR
[22:19] WASTE STREAM, UH, THAT ARE NOT
[22:21] FROM RESIDENTS AGAIN, 80%
[22:22] OF THE TRASH RECYCLING.
[22:24] FOOD WASTE.
[22:25] IS GENERATED.
[22:26] THE CITY OF BOSTON IS
[22:27] INSTITUTIONAL OR COMMERCIAL OR
[22:28] INDUSTRIAL.
[22:30] UM AND THERE ARE PATHS THINGS
[22:31] LIKE FOOD RECOVERY AS WELL AS
[22:33] UH FOOD WASTE COLLECTION UH
[22:35] THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR US TO
[22:36] FOCUS ON IN ADDITION TO OUR
[22:37] RESIDENTIAL PROGRAMS AS WE
[22:38] THINK ABOUT THE CHALLENGE IN
[22:39] FRONT OF US.
[22:40] THE THIRD THING WHICH IS A
[22:41] REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT
[22:42] OF THIS.
[22:42] PROGRAM IS THAT.
[22:43] A REALLY IMPORTANT ELEMENT
[22:44] OF OUR WORK GOING FORWARD IS
[22:45] THINK ABOUT HOW WE JUST EXPAND
[22:46] CAPACITY.
[22:47] IN OUR REGION AND IN THE
[22:48] COMMONWEALTH, UM, TO.
[22:50] BE ABLE TO HANDLE FOOD.
[22:51] WASTE.
[22:52] UH, AND FOOD WASTE
[22:53] COMPOSTING KNOWING THAT THAT IS
[22:54] A PRIORITY AS AN OUTCOME FOR UH
[22:56] FOOD.
[22:57] WASTE THAT WE COLLECT.
[22:58] WE DO KNOW THAT WE NEED
[22:59] ADDITIONAL.
[22:59] CAPACITY WITHIN THE REGION OR
[23:01] WITHIN THE COMMONWEALTH TO BE
[23:02] ABLE TO HANDLE COLLECTION
[23:03] OF COLLECTION DOES INCREASE
[23:04] ACROSS ALL THE SECTORS.
[23:06] UM, SO THAT I WILL TURN
[23:07] EVERYONE TO FELLOW PANELISTS IN
[23:08] CASE THERE IS ANYTHING TO.
[23:09] CORRECT OR ADD AND.
[23:10] UH THEN TURN IT OVER TO ALL.
[23:12] OF YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS
[23:12] COMMENTS.
[23:14] UM THAT WAS GREAT US I JUST HAD
[23:15] A COUPLE ITEMS ONE WHAT WE ARE
[23:17] FINDING AND EVOLVING AND GIVE
[23:19] DETAILS UH, ON OTHER
[23:20] COMMUNITIES.
[23:21] IN MASSACHUSETTS THAT ARE
[23:22] PROVIDING UH CURBSIDE FOOD
[23:23] WASTE RECOVERY IS THAT EVERY
[23:24] OTHER WEEK IS THE NORM.
[23:26] UM AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS
[23:28] OBVIOUSLY WE LAUNCHED THIS AS A
[23:30] PILOT WE WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY
[23:31] PEOPLE WERE WILLING TO
[23:32] PARTICIPATE.
[23:33] UH, THIS IS THE TREND THAT
[23:34] WE'RE SEEING ACROSS THE
[23:35] COMMONWEALTH IS THAT THAT'S THE
[23:37] RIGHT CADENCE.
[23:37] UM, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I
[23:39] THINK UM, THIS REALLY THIS NEAR
[23:42] TERM AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT
[23:43] LONGER TERM BUT THIS NEAR-TERM
[23:44] SHIFT REALLY CHECKS A LOT
[23:45] OF REALLY IMPORTANT BOXES.
[23:46] UH, IS THAT THE LAST THING WE
[23:48] WANT IS SORT OF, UM, LARGE FOOD
[23:50] WASTE TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH
[23:51] NEIGHBORHOODS LOOKING FOR BANDS
[23:52] TO PICK UP.
[23:53] UH, IT CAUSES TRAFFIC, IT
[23:54] CAUSES EMISSIONS.
[23:55] IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY
[23:56] RECOVERING FOOD WASTE.
[23:57] SO THIS THIS SHIFT TO EVERY
[23:59] OTHER WEEK ALLOWS US TO PICK UP
[24:01] MORE FOOD WASTE, ADD MORE
[24:02] HOUSEHOLDS, SAVE MONEY, UH, AND
[24:05] HAVE FEWER TRUCKS ON THE STREET
[24:06] LIKE IN HALF OF MANY TRUCKS,
[24:07] YOU KNOW, ON THE STREET AT A
[24:09] GIVEN TIME IN THIS ENVIRONMENT
[24:11] THAT WE'RE IN THAT IS A LOT
[24:12] OF WINS.
[24:13] UM, THIS IS NOT THE LONG TERM
[24:15] SOLUTION FOR FOOD WASTE
[24:17] RECOVERY AND DIVERSION FOR
[24:18] BOSTON.
[24:18] WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
[24:19] SO LIKE WE WANT TO FIND WAYS
[24:21] OF GETTING HIGHER AND BETTER
[24:22] USE PRODUCTS OUT OF THIS.
[24:23] AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE
[24:25] HAVE RECOGNIZED IS THAT BOSTON
[24:26] ALONE IN TERMS OF THIS, YOU
[24:27] KNOW, 2800 TONS A YEAR IS TOO
[24:30] BIG A SCALE OF AN AMOUNT TO
[24:31] GROW TO COMPOST AND NOT ENOUGH
[24:33] COMPOSTING FACILITIES THAT ARE
[24:34] WILLING TO TAKE THAT ON.
[24:36] AND SO WE NEED TO START
[24:37] THINKING CREATIVELY BOTH WITH
[24:38] THE STATE ABOUT BRINGING THE
[24:40] SECTOR YOU KNOW, THE COMPOSTING
[24:41] SECTOR UP TO SCALE UH, AS THE
[24:43] STATE PROCEEDS, UM, WITH FOOD
[24:45] WASTE RECOVERY REQUIREMENTS AS
[24:47] WELL AS THINKING CREATIVELY
[24:48] ABOUT MAYBE WE HAVE A
[24:49] COLLECTION SYSTEM THAT YOU PUT
[24:51] OUT TO BID, BUT IT'S GOING TO
[24:53] MULTIPLE.
[24:53] AND DROP.
[24:54] OFF POINTS THAT ARE SMALLER
[24:55] IN SCALE THAT ACTUALLY CAN TURN
[24:56] THIS INTO COMPOSTING.
[24:57] UH, BECAUSE THE REALITY IS AS
[24:59] CHRIS MENTIONED, UM, MOST
[25:00] OF THE FOOD WASTE WE'RE
[25:01] COLLECTING 85% OF THAT FOOD
[25:03] WASTE IS GOING TO UH, ANAEROBIC
[25:05] DIGESTION THAT IS THE SAME AS
[25:07] IF FOLKS IN BOSTON HAD GROUND
[25:09] IT UP IN AN INCINERATOR AND
[25:10] SENT IT TO THEIR OWN.
[25:12] UM, AND THAT'S GREAT THAT
[25:13] ENERGY IS USED AT YOUR ISLAND
[25:15] AND THEN YOU KNOW, IT'S THE
[25:16] SAME DIGESTATE THAT GOES OUT
[25:17] AND THEN THAT CAN BE USED AS A
[25:18] NON UM A NON-FOOD PRODUCT, UM
[25:20] EQUITABLE LAND.
[25:21] UH, BUT LIKE YOU KNOW THE IDEA
[25:23] SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO
[25:24] THINK THAT WE ARE SATISFIED
[25:25] THAT THE IDEA OF LIKE TRUCKING
[25:26] 85% OF THE WASTE TO A DIFFERENT
[25:28] ANAEROBIC DIGESTION IS A LONG
[25:29] TERM SOLUTION WHEN YOU KNOW,
[25:31] GRINDING IT UP IN YOUR
[25:32] INCINERATOR IS THE SAME THING
[25:33] NOW AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE WANT
[25:35] TO FIND COMPOST SOLUTIONS UM,
[25:37] GOING FORWARD.
[25:38] SO THIS IS THE RIGHT IN MY
[25:40] OPINION IS SORT OF THE
[25:40] ENVIRONMENTAL CHIEF.
[25:41] THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE AT THIS
[25:42] POINT IN TIME TO MAKE THIS
[25:43] PARTICULAR PROGRAM MORE
[25:44] EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE.
[25:45] UM, AND CHECKS A LOT OF BOXES
[25:46] WHILE WE CONTINUE TO EXPLORE
[25:48] UH, HOW DO WE EXPAND THIS
[25:50] INDUSTRY TO SCALE UH, SO THAT
[25:52] REALLY MORE OF THIS FOOD WASTE
[25:53] IS UM, YOU KNOW, IS COMING BACK
[25:55] TO BOSTON.
[25:55] THE SECOND ITEM MIGHT HIGHLIGHT
[25:57] AND THANK YOU CHRIS RETURNING
[25:58] THIS THIS IS PART OF IT.
[25:59] THERE'S THE THERE'S THE WASTE
[26:01] MANAGEMENT PLAN OF THIS WHICH
[26:02] WE OBVIOUSLY PRESENTED.
[26:03] AND THEN THERE'S THE UH FOOD
[26:06] CIRCULARITY END OF THIS WHICH I
[26:07] WANT TO HIGHLIGHT LIKE WE ARE
[26:08] WORKING REALLY HARD AS AN
[26:09] ADMINISTRATION AS A CITY TO
[26:10] MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MUCH OF A
[26:12] HEALTHY AND NUTRITIOUS FOOD
[26:13] THAT'S COMING INTO BOSTON IS
[26:15] GETTING TO FOLKS WHO NEED IT.
[26:16] AND WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME OVER
[26:17] THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND I
[26:18] THINK I SAW ALL OF YOU UH, AT
[26:20] VARIOUS RIBBON CUTTINGS AND
[26:21] OPENINGS AT THE UH AT THE UM
[26:23] COLD STORAGE FACILITY, UH, YOU
[26:24] KNOW, A NEW MARKET WHERE WE ARE
[26:26] NOW, UM, SUPPORTING MILLIONS
[26:28] OF MEALS A YEAR WITH.
[26:30] RECOVERED FOOD.
[26:31] COMING INTO A COLD STORAGE
[26:32] FACILITY THAT THE CITY HELPED
[26:33] FUND WITH ARPA FUNDING AND THEN
[26:34] GOING OUT TO OUR RETAIL
[26:35] DISTRIBUTION, UH, TO FOOD
[26:37] PANTRIES AND SOUP KITCHENS.
[26:38] THAT TO ME IS THE HIGHEST MASS
[26:40] USE OF FOOD IS MAKING SURE THAT
[26:42] AS LITTLE OF IT AS POSSIBLE IS
[26:43] ENTERING OUR WASTE STREAM AS
[26:44] MUCH OF IT AS POSSIBLE IS
[26:45] GETTING TO FOLKS WHO NEED IT.
[26:47] AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY
[26:48] THE SCRAPS AND THE THINGS THAT
[26:49] YOU DO NEED UM, YOU KNOW, THAT
[26:50] DO GET THROWN OUT.
[26:51] HOW DO WE AVOID THAT GOING TO
[26:53] UH, TRADITIONAL GARBAGE.
[26:54] SO UH, WE'RE SPENDING AS MUCH
[26:55] TIME THINKING ABOUT THAT AND WE
[26:57] CONTINUE TO HAVE OPPORTUNITIES
[26:58] IN FOOD RECOVERY.
[27:01] UM, AND THE OTHER THING I WANT
[27:03] TO ADD.
[27:03] HERE WAS UM, THE UH.
[27:06] COMPOSTING INFRASTRUCTURE, UM,
[27:09] WE HAVE SMALL FARMS THAT CAN
[27:10] ACCEPT, YOU KNOW, A FEW HUNDRED
[27:12] TONS EVERY WEEK WHICH IS MORE
[27:14] THAN WHAT THE UH WHAT THE
[27:15] PASTIES RIGHT NOW.
[27:16] BUT THE BIGGER CHALLENGE WITH
[27:17] EXPANDING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE
[27:19] IS.
[27:19] THAT SITING.
[27:20] AND PERMITTING IS A BIG
[27:22] CHALLENGE BEING IN
[27:23] NEIGHBORHOODS WHETHER
[27:25] RESIDENTIAL UM HOUSING.
[27:27] IT'S HARD TO HAVE THAT WITH
[27:29] ORDERS.
[27:29] A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES JUST
[27:30] KIND OF HINDER EXPANDING
[27:32] COMPOSTING FACILITIES WITHIN
[27:34] AND CLOSE TO THE CITY.
[27:35] AND THAT IS ONE OF THE BIGGER
[27:36] REASONS WHY.
[27:38] A LOT.
[27:38] OF OUR.
[27:39] UH, TONNAGE CANNOT GO TO
[27:40] COMPOST.
[27:41] UM, THE OTHER PART.
[27:44] IS THAT.
[27:44] IF YOU WANT TO SCALE UP VERY
[27:46] RAPIDLY AND EATING FACILITIES
[27:48] MORE EASILY ABLE TO TAKE THE
[27:51] FOOD WASTE ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S
[27:53] A WHOLE EDUCATION ANGLE WHERE
[27:54] WE NEED TO TELL RESIDENTS HOW
[27:56] TO SEPARATE WHAT.
[27:57] TO PUT.
[27:58] WHAT NOT TO PUT LIKE SMALL
[27:59] STICKERS THAT YOU SEE ON YOUR
[28:01] FOOD ARE CALLED CONTAMINANTS.
[28:03] THE FACILITY WOULD DEGRADE BUT
[28:05] THE COMPOST FACILITY HAS TO
[28:06] MAINTAIN ITS STANDARDS FOR PFAS
[28:09] CONTAMINATION SO THEY ARE VERY
[28:10] WARY OF TAKING.
[28:11] STUFF LIKE THAT.
[28:12] SO ALL OF THIS KIND OF NEEDS
[28:13] TO GO HAND IN HAND TO MAKE SURE
[28:14] THAT WE ARE ABLE TO GET IT TO A
[28:16] POINT WHERE WE REALLY WANT OUR
[28:17] FOOD WASTE TO END UP AND
[28:19] BECOME, UH.
[28:19] A FINAL PRODUCT.
[28:24] THANK YOU.
[28:26] WE WE WERE ALSO JOINED.
[28:28] BY COUNCILOR MURPHY AND
[28:30] COUNCILOR.
[28:30] FITZGERALD AS WELL.
[28:32] I DO HAVE AN ABSENCE LETTER.
[28:33] THAT I WOULD LIKE TO READ INTO
[28:35] THE RECORD.
[28:36] DO YOU HAVE CHAIR FLYNN?
[28:38] MR CLERK COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
[28:40] I.
[28:40] REGRET TO INFORM YOU THAT I AM
[28:41] UNABLE TO ATTEND THIS MORNING'S
[28:43] COMMITTEE ON.
[28:44] CITY SERVICES HEARING.
[28:45] UM, ON ON.
[28:48] DOCKET 0773 OR FOR A HEARING TO
[28:51] DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE CITY
[28:52] OF BOSTON'S CURBSIDE FOOD
[28:54] WASTE.
[28:54] PROGRAM.
[28:55] I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH
[28:57] ADDITIONAL.
[28:57] QUESTIONS UPON REVIEWING MY.
[28:58] STAFF NOTES IN WATCHING THE
[29:00] RECORDING.
[29:00] PLEASE DO NOT HESITATE TO
[29:01] CONTACT MY OFFICE WITH ANY
[29:03] QUESTIONS.
[29:05] COUNCILOR PEPEN FROM DISTRICT
[29:07] FIVE.
[29:10] UM AT THIS TIME I DO WANT.
[29:12] TO.
[29:12] GIVE EACH COUNCIL COLLEAGUE THE
[29:14] .
[29:15] OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS TO
[29:17] THE PANEL.
[29:18] UM, FOR THIS ROUND I'LL GIVE UM
[29:21] I'LL GIVE.
[29:22] SIX MINUTES AND I'M GOING TO
[29:23] START WITH COUNCILOR COLLETTA.
[29:26] SUPPORT COUNCIL CALL IT AS A
[29:27] PARENT YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
[29:28] THANK YOU CHAIR AND I WANT TO
[29:30] THANK THE PANEL FOR THEIR
[29:31] PRESENTATION.
[29:31] I'M SO SORRY.
[29:32] UH, CHIEF, I TOTALLY
[29:35] SORRY YOU'RE NO LONGER DIRECTOR
[29:36] INTERIM CHIEF.
[29:36] SO I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
[29:38] UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK
[29:39] ON THIS AND FOR THE REALLY, UM,
[29:41] ENLIGHTENING, UH, PRESENTATION
[29:42] THAT YOU HAVE.
[29:43] UM, SO THIS IS I MEAN, OVERALL
[29:45] IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A REALLY
[29:46] GOOD THING.
[29:47] I THINK THIS IS, UH, A GOOD
[29:48] EXAMPLE OF GOOD GOVERNMENT IN
[29:50] ACTION.
[29:51] SO WE TOOK TIME TO IMPLEMENT
[29:52] THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE
[29:53] GETTING IT RIGHT.
[29:54] BUT THIS IS A GOOD AGAIN
[29:56] EXAMPLE OF BEING ABLE TO PIVOT
[29:57] AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WORKING
[29:58] WHAT ISN'T WORKING.
[30:00] UM, NOT ONLY WILL BE WILL WE BE
[30:02] ABLE TO SERVE MORE PEOPLE BUT
[30:04] ACTUALLY GETTING MORE PEOPLE
[30:05] OFF THE WAITLIST?
[30:06] THERE'S GOING TO BE A COST
[30:07] SAVINGS THERE OF WHAT WAS IT
[30:09] $700,000 FOR THE PROGRAM.
[30:11] UM, AND THERE'S ALSO GOING TO
[30:12] BE LESS TRUCKS ON THE STREET ON
[30:14] A WEEKLY BASIS WHICH TRANSLATES
[30:16] TO I GUESS THIS IS MY FIRST
[30:17] QUESTION HOW MUCH UH,
[30:20] CARBON EMISSIONS THAT WILL BE.
[30:21] UM.
[30:21] POTENTIALLY TAKING OUT
[30:22] OF THE AIR THAT WE BREATHE ON A
[30:24] WEEKLY BASIS.
[30:24] YOU KNOW, I MEAN.
[30:26] WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE
[30:27] TRANSPORTATION IT'S CUTTING IT
[30:28] IN HALF BUT YOU KNOW, A LITTLE
[30:30] BIT LESS THAN HALF BECAUSE
[30:30] WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING PEOPLE
[30:31] OFF THE WAITLIST IF NOT
[30:32] EXISTING ROUTES.
[30:33] THAT'S NOT ADDING IT BUT THERE
[30:34] MAY BE NEW ROUTES WHICH WOULD
[30:35] BE GREAT.
[30:36] UM I THINK THE THE
[30:38] CARBON EMISSIONS FOR THE THIS
[30:39] AGGREGATE PROGRAM JUST TO SORT
[30:40] OF PUT THIS IN CONTEXT THE
[30:42] CARBON EMISSIONS OF OF WASTE IN
[30:43] BOSTON DOESN'T MOVE THE NEEDLE
[30:44] FROM BOSTON'S AGGREGATE
[30:46] EMISSIONS.
[30:46] WE ARE STILL ENTIRELY DRIVEN BY
[30:48] BUILDINGS ARE TWO THIRDS OF OUR
[30:49] EMISSIONS IN BOSTON AND
[30:51] TRANSPORTATION IS BASICALLY THE
[30:52] REST.
[30:53] UM, SO UH IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
[30:55] WE'RE ASKING A PROGRAM OF THIS
[30:56] SIZE JUST DOESN'T HAVE THAT
[30:58] SCALE.
[30:58] WHAT I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED
[30:59] ABOUT IS THE LOCAL EMISSIONS
[31:01] OF TRUCKS DRIVING THROUGH
[31:03] COMMUNITIES AND NEIGHBORHOODS.
[31:04] YOU KNOW, THESE ARE LARGELY
[31:06] DIESEL TRUCKS.
[31:06] SO THE CARBON EMISSIONS IS SORT
[31:08] OF A WASH IN A PROGRAM LIKE
[31:09] THIS.
[31:09] BUT THE LOCAL EMISSIONS IN
[31:10] TERMS OF WHAT PEOPLE ARE
[31:11] BREATHING AND THEN I HAVE THE
[31:13] SAME EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW, UM,
[31:14] UH WALKING ON MONDAY OR MONDAY
[31:16] PICKUP WHEN I'M WALKING WITH MY
[31:17] KIDS, YOU KNOW, TO TO THE BUS
[31:19] STOP WE'RE BREATHING IN
[31:20] WHATEVER WE'RE BREATHING IN IN
[31:21] THE NEIGHBORHOOD AT THAT
[31:22] PARTICULAR TIME.
[31:22] AND SO THE FEWER TRUCKS THAT WE
[31:24] HAVE YOU KNOW, IN MORNING
[31:25] PICKUP THAT'S A GOOD THING IN
[31:27] PARTICULAR IS WE CAN EXPAND THE
[31:28] PROGRAM.
[31:29] AND SO WE'RE SERVING 2700
[31:31] HOUSEHOLDS TODAY THERE'S 1600
[31:33] ON THE WAITLIST.
[31:34] HOW MANY DO I.
[31:35] DO IN FACT 27,000.
[31:37] 27,000 OKAY.
[31:38] .
[31:39] SO WE'RE SERVING ABOUT 10%
[31:40] OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN BOSTON
[31:42] CURRENTLY.
[31:43] SO 27,000 CURRENTLY BEING
[31:44] SERVICED AND THEN THERE'S 1600
[31:45] ON THE WAITLIST AND WE
[31:47] ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE
[31:48] TO NOW SERVE ALL OF THEM YES.
[31:49] ON THE WAITLIST OKAY.
[31:50] DO IT BECAUSE WE ARE GOING BY
[31:52] WEEKLY IF MORE PEOPLE FIGURE
[31:54] OUT OH THEY'RE EXPANDING THE
[31:55] PROGRAM, HOW ARE WE ABLE TO
[31:57] MAYBE EVEN EXPAND ON THAT?
[31:59] IS THERE EVEN A LIMIT UM BEYOND
[32:01] THE 1600 THAT THAT ARE
[32:02] CURRENTLY ON THE WAITLIST?
[32:03] UM, WE HAVE A PROJECTION FROM
[32:05] OUR VENDOR UH, THAT IS BUDGETED
[32:07] IN OUR CONTRACT UM BASIS HOW
[32:09] MUCH WE RECEIVED IN THE
[32:10] WAITLIST LAST YEAR.
[32:11] SO 1600 IN THE LAST YEAR WE
[32:13] HAVE DOUBLE.
[32:13] THE.
[32:14] CAPACITY AVAILABLE BEYOND THE
[32:16] WAITLIST IF IT WAS TO GROW, UH
[32:18] ,SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO OFFER
[32:19] ANYBODY OVER AND ABOVE THE
[32:21] WAITLIST IF THEY WANTED TO
[32:22] BECOME PART OF THE PROGRAM.
[32:23] FOR THIS YEAR.
[32:24] WE HAVE.
[32:25] FLAHERTY FOR THIS YEAR.
[32:26] THAT'S GREAT.
[32:26] AND YOU HAD MENTIONED ABOUT UM
[32:28] OUTREACH AND COMMUNICATION IN
[32:30] DISTRICT ONE.
[32:31] WE WE LOVE THE BENEFITS OF THIS
[32:32] PROGRAM.
[32:33] WE HAVE A LOT OF PROJECT OSCAR
[32:34] BIDS AND SO IF FOLKS HAVE
[32:36] THEORETICALLY FOOD WASTE IN THE
[32:38] INTERIM UM, BETWEEN WEEKS
[32:40] THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO
[32:41] DROP THEM OFF AT PROJECT OSCAR.
[32:42] UM, HOW HOW ARE YOU
[32:44] COMMUNICATING THIS TO
[32:45] RESIDENTS?
[32:46] IS IT HAPPENING IN MULTIPLE
[32:48] LANGUAGES?
[32:49] UM IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE
[32:50] CAN DO AS COUNSELORS TO HELP
[32:51] GET THE WORD OUT.
[32:52] WITHOUT TO HEAR FROM YOU ON
[32:53] THAT.
[32:54] WE HAVE A WHOLE COMMUNICATION
[32:55] DOCKET THAT IS.
[32:56] GOING OUT MULTIPLE EMAILS GOING
[32:58] FROM THE WINDOW.
[32:58] OUR WEBSITES ARE UPDATED.
[33:00] WE HAD UM A.
[33:01] VERY THOROUGH FAQ SECTION
[33:03] THAT WE HAVE.
[33:04] WITH OUR TEAMS ARE OPS TEAMS.
[33:06] 311 UH ANYBODY CALLING IN WE
[33:09] ARE WORKING.
[33:09] REALLY HARD TO HAVE A
[33:10] STARTER KIT THAT HAS.
[33:12] MULTIPLE LANGUAGE ACCESS.
[33:14] UM IT'S.
[33:14] STILL IN THE WORKS.
[33:15] UM, BUT WE ARE TRYING TO MAKE
[33:17] SURE THAT ANYBODY WHO NEEDS
[33:19] INFORMATION IS ABLE.
[33:20] TO ACCESS IT.
[33:21] WE ALSO HAVE.
[33:21] THE TRASH DAY APP WHICH HAS.
[33:22] A NOTIFICATION SYSTEM.
[33:23] YOU WERE ABLE TO SET REMINDERS
[33:24] ON YOUR APP.
[33:25] ALL OF THOSE CHANGES ARE
[33:26] COMMUNICATED BY.
[33:27] THAT AND UM.
[33:29] EMAILS AND UM EXPLAINER VIDEOS
[33:32] THAT WERE.
[33:32] TALKING ABOUT HOW TO STORE.
[33:34] YOUR WAYS FOR THE TWO WEEKS
[33:35] AND UM ANY OTHER QUESTIONS
[33:37] ANYBODY ON OUR TEAM ZERO WASTE
[33:39] EMAIL GARBAGE GOT AN EMAIL IS
[33:41] AVAILABLE.
[33:41] HAPPY TO ANSWER.
[33:43] THANK YOU THANK YOU AND I'M
[33:44] GOING TO GET INTO I'M SORRY.
[33:45] AND TO BUILD ON THAT I MEAN I
[33:47] THINK ANY SORT OF.
[33:49] AMPLIFICATION THAT THIS THAT
[33:50] ALL OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN
[33:51] DOING TO LET.
[33:52] FOLKS.
[33:52] WHO ARE.
[33:53] ENROLLED KNOW.
[33:54] OF.
[33:54] THE SCHEDULE CHANGE, THOSE WHO
[33:55] ARE INTERESTED IN ENROLLING TO
[33:57] REACH OUT AND.
[33:58] PEOPLE ACROSS THE CITY TO KNOW
[34:00] ABOUT THE PROJECT OSCAR
[34:02] OPPORTUNITIES THOSE ARE SORT
[34:02] OF THREE THINGS I THINK THAT
[34:03] ARE VERY USEFUL TO.
[34:05] TO HELP AMPLIFY.
[34:06] SO I APPRECIATE THE.
[34:07] UH THE UH.
[34:08] OPPORTUNITY THAT THANK YOU.
[34:10] UM, JUST GETTING INTO THIS
[34:11] QUESTION OF 85% VERSUS THE 15%
[34:14] UM, FOR FOLKS THAT ARE
[34:15] LISTENING IN AND THIS IS THIS
[34:18] IS DIRECTLY TO YOU, CHIEF
[34:18] BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU CAN
[34:19] ANSWER THIS UM, JUST THINKING
[34:20] ABOUT THE COMPARATIVE
[34:21] ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFITS BETWEEN
[34:24] UM AND I GUESS OVERALL
[34:26] GREENHOUSE GAS IMPACT
[34:27] OF ANAEROBIC DIGESTION VERSUS
[34:28] TRADITIONAL COMPOSTING.
[34:29] CAN YOU JUST EXPAND ON THAT AND
[34:31] WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT WHERE
[34:32] WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THIS NOW
[34:33] AND SCALING UP AND WHAT IT MAY
[34:35] MEAN TO PARTNER REGIONALLY WITH
[34:37] OTHER CITIES AND MUNICIPALITIES
[34:39] TO MAXIMIZE WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
[34:40] UM, FROM FROM WHAT WE'RE
[34:41] COLLECTING.
[34:42] YEAH, I.
[34:43] THINK SO BOTH ANAEROBIC
[34:44] DIGESTION AND COMPOSTING ARE
[34:46] GOOD WAYS OF PREVENTING
[34:47] GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS FROM
[34:48] FOOD WASTE.
[34:49] AND THE QUESTION IS REALLY LIKE
[34:50] WHAT'S THE VALUE OF THE END
[34:52] PRODUCT?
[34:53] UM, SO FROM A COMPOSTING
[34:54] SUBJECTIVE IF WE CAN GET THE
[34:55] HIGH VALUE FOOD SCRAPS AND FOOD
[34:56] WASTE TO GO TO COMPOSE, THAT IS
[34:58] A REALLY VALUABLE INPUT, YOU
[34:59] KNOW, INTO THE AGRICULTURAL
[35:01] SYSTEM IF IT IS BLENDED WITH
[35:03] WASTEWATER.
[35:04] UM, THE TRADITIONAL MODEL WHICH
[35:06] IS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS
[35:07] ANAEROBIC DIGESTION WHICH IS
[35:08] CAPTURING THE ENERGY USE AND
[35:09] CAPTURING THAT YOU KNOW THE
[35:10] METHANE GAS AS THINGS DECOMPOSE
[35:12] UH, USUALLY ONSITE AT A PLACE
[35:14] THAT CAN USE IT.
[35:15] SO IT'S USUALLY IN A WASTE
[35:16] ENERGY PLANT.
[35:17] UM, AND SO YOU KNOW IN DEER
[35:18] ISLAND THEY USE THAT UH
[35:19] ACTUALLY POWER UM THEIR
[35:21] FACILITY UM SO THAT IS A WAY
[35:24] OF USING THAT ENERGY.
[35:25] THERE IS ABOUT 15% OF WHAT GOES
[35:27] THROUGH AN ANAEROBIC DIGESTION
[35:28] COMES OUT AS A SOLID AT THE
[35:29] END.
[35:30] UM, BECAUSE IT'S BLENDED WITH
[35:32] WASTEWATER AND BECAUSE
[35:33] OF CONCERNS FOR US THAT IS NOT
[35:35] A PRODUCT THAT YOU CAN THEN PUT
[35:37] BACK ON FARMS THAT ARE
[35:38] PRODUCING FOOD THAT WE'RE
[35:39] EATING.
[35:39] UH, SO IT DOES LIMIT, YOU KNOW,
[35:41] THE TYPE OF AGRICULTURAL USE
[35:43] THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT
[35:44] FERTILIZER CAN BE USED FOR.
[35:45] BUT BOTH OF THOSE ARE BETTER
[35:47] THAN JUST TAKING IT AND LIKE
[35:49] BURNING IT AT A YOU KNOW, AT A
[35:50] TRASH POINT.
[35:51] UM, SO I THINK THE IDEA
[35:52] OF GETTING THAT 35% OF OUR
[35:54] ORGANICS OUT OF THE TRADITIONAL
[35:55] GARBAGE WASTE STREAM IS GREAT
[35:57] ENVIRONMENTALLY I THINK THE
[35:58] HIGHEST AND BEST USE IS GETTING
[36:00] AS MUCH OF THAT INTO COMPOSTING
[36:01] AS POSSIBLE.
[36:02] UM, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE
[36:04] CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, IN
[36:05] MASSACHUSETTS UH, OR LOCALLY
[36:07] UH, WE PRODUCE FAR MORE FOOD
[36:08] WASTE THAN THE CAPACITY
[36:09] OF COMPOSTING SYSTEMS.
[36:10] YEAH.
[36:11] THANK YOU.
[36:11] UM, THIS IS FASCINATING TO
[36:13] ME.
[36:13] I KNOW THAT YOU AND I COULD
[36:14] TALK ABOUT THIS FOR A VERY LONG
[36:15] TIME, BUT MY TIME IS UP.
[36:17] BUT I'LL JUST, UH, COMMENT AND
[36:18] JUST SAY THANK YOU FOR
[36:20] UNDERSTANDING, UNDERSTANDING
[36:20] AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THIS IS
[36:22] JUST A SHORT TERM SOLUTION AND
[36:23] THINKING MORE.
[36:24] LONG TERM ABOUT, UM, WHAT WE
[36:26] CAN DO AS A COMMONWEALTH RATHER
[36:27] THAN JUST BEING THIS BIG UM
[36:30] ACTOR IN THIS SYSTEM AND REALLY
[36:32] DRIVING UH, WHAT IS WHAT'S
[36:33] HAPPENING IN THE NORTH SHORE
[36:34] AND LAWRENCE AND OTHER PLACES?
[36:36] SO UM, PLEASE CONSIDER ME A
[36:37] PARTNER IN THIS WORK AND, UH,
[36:39] REALLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR TIME,
[36:40] UM, AND BEING HERE AND JUST
[36:42] OVERALL THE SUCCESS OF THE
[36:43] PROGRAM AND UNDERSTANDING THAT
[36:45] WE COULD FINE TUNE SOME THINGS
[36:46] AND MAKE IT EVEN BETTER FOR THE
[36:47] RESIDENTS OF BOSTON.
[36:49] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[36:50] THANK YOU COUNCIL OF COURSE.
[36:52] ABOUT THE.
[36:53] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE YOU.
[36:54] HAVE THE FLOOR.
[36:55] THANK YOU.
[36:55] AND UM I WANT TO APOLOGIZE.
[36:58] SHE CALLED YOU DIRECTOR SO I
[36:59] CALLED YOU DEREK BUT SHE, UM I
[37:01] WANT TO THANK YOU.
[37:02] AND HOW MANY HOW MANY
[37:03] ENTREPRENEURS DO YOU HAVE IN
[37:04] EAST BOSTON?
[37:06] WELL, I JUST SAY THAT THAT'S
[37:08] INTERESTING BECAUSE, UM, I'M
[37:10] LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE RIGHT
[37:11] NOW AND IT SAYS IN BOSTON HAS.
[37:12] ONE BUT IT ALSO THERE'S THERE
[37:15] NO IT SAYS THAT MATTAPAN
[37:16] DOESN'T HAVE ANY.
[37:19] SO I THINK WE.
[37:20] WE ARE ALWAYS LOOKING TO ADJUST
[37:22] THE 20 LOCATIONS AND EVEN
[37:23] THINK.
[37:23] ABOUT.
[37:23] ADDING ADDITIONAL LOCATION.
[37:24] SO HAPPY TO WORK WITH.
[37:25] YOU ON ON THAT.
[37:26] AND WHY WHY IS 20 THE NUMBER?
[37:28] IT'S SIMPLY WHERE THE PROGRAM
[37:31] IS TODAY.
[37:31] THERE'S NO.
[37:32] THERE'S NO CLEAR.
[37:33] CAP ON WHY IT SHOULD BE 20.
[37:35] WE CAN THINK ABOUT.
[37:36] FINDING A WAY OF EXPANDING THAT
[37:37] PROGRAM WITH.
[37:38] ADDITIONAL ADDITIONAL REVENUE.
[37:39] YEAH BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S
[37:41] YOU KNOW.
[37:41] ,IT'S.
[37:42] I WANT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT
[37:43] MIKE IS GOING TO HOPEFULLY
[37:44] EXPLAIN MYSELF.
[37:45] WELL, UM, I THINK ESPECIALLY IN
[37:47] COMMUNITIES OF COLOR ESPECIALLY
[37:48] IN IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AND
[37:49] I'M GOING TO SPEAK AS SOMEONE
[37:50] WHO GREW UP IN MATTAPAN LIKE
[37:52] THERE ARE A LOT OF WAYS IN
[37:54] WHICH LIKE COMPOSTING AND
[37:55] RECYCLING HAPPENS NATURALLY AND
[37:59] MATTAPAN IS A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH
[38:01] A STRONG HAITIAN COMMUNITY,
[38:02] STRONG BLACK COMMUNITY, STRONG
[38:04] COMMUNITY AND I THINK IT'S A
[38:06] NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD TAKE TO
[38:08] COMPOSTING PROGRAMS IF
[38:11] EXPLAINED AND UNDERSTOOD LIKE I
[38:13] THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY MY
[38:14] MOTHER LOVES THE UH, CURBSIDE
[38:16] FOOD WASTE PROGRAM IS BECAUSE I
[38:18] SHE ALWAYS SORT OF DID OUR
[38:20] VERSION OF THAT.
[38:21] AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S
[38:22] REAL OPPORTUNITY THERE FOR US
[38:24] TO DO EXPANSION.
[38:25] I'D ALSO LOVE TO SEE A VERSION
[38:28] OF THE MAP OF THE GRASS OF THE
[38:32] NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY BIN
[38:33] TONNAGES BY NEIGHBORHOOD.
[38:35] .
[38:35] UM THIS.
[38:36] REMINDED ME OF MY STATISTICS
[38:37] DAYS BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO
[38:39] EXPLAIN THIS THE PERFECT WAY.
[38:41] UH, IT'D PROBABLY BE A BIT LIKE
[38:42] THE CIRCLES OF SHOWING USAGE BY
[38:45] NEIGHBORHOOD POPULATION.
[38:47] BECAUSE.
[38:48] YEAH.
[38:50] I DON'T THINK THAT I THINK
[38:52] IT WOULD SHOW US A LOT
[38:53] OF TRENDS THAT THE HIGH USAGE
[38:54] DOES NOT NECESSARILY MEAN THE
[38:56] MOST POPULATED NEIGHBORHOODS.
[38:58] AND I THOUGHT YOU STATED AT
[38:59] FIRST THAT IT WAS JAMAICA PLAIN
[39:00] DORCHESTER, BUT I DON'T SEE
[39:03] THAT ON THE MAPS OR ON.
[39:04] THE GROUND.
[39:04] AND DEFINITELY GOING.
[39:05] IN FOR.
[39:06] THE ENROLLMENT UM.
[39:07] IN THE CURBSIDE PROGRAM THAT IS
[39:09] WHAT WE'RE SEEING.
[39:10] JAMAICA PLAIN AND DORCHESTER
[39:12] AS.
[39:12] THE TOP PEOPLE THAT ARE.
[39:14] ENROLLED IN THE CURBSIDE
[39:15] PROGRAM.
[39:15] FOR TONNAGE.
[39:16] IS ON PROJECT OSCAR.
[39:17] I'M SORRY THE.
[39:18] CHART IS A TONNAGE.
[39:20] BY PROJECT OSCAR.
[39:20] THE MAP IS ENROLLEES IN.
[39:22] UH UH IN.
[39:24] THE CURBSIDE PROGRAM.
[39:25] OKAY I'D LOVE FOR THAT TO BE A
[39:27] VERSION OF BOTH OF THESE.
[39:28] IT ALSO TAKES INTO
[39:30] CONSIDERATION POPULATION
[39:31] OF NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE I THINK
[39:32] THAT WOULD SHOW SORT OF EQUITY
[39:34] DISCREPANCIES OR CHARTER
[39:36] LANGUAGE BARRIERS WHERE WE NEED
[39:38] TO DO MORE WORK.
[39:38] AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A
[39:40] IT MAKES SENSE THAT LONGWOOD,
[39:41] FOR EXAMPLE, DOESN'T LOOK LIKE
[39:42] THERE'S ANYONE BECAUSE THEY'RE
[39:43] MAYBE NOT IN THE HOUSEHOLDS BUT
[39:45] FOR SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS
[39:46] WHERE THERE ARE VIEWS OF THE
[39:47] POPULATION.
[39:48] OKAY.
[39:49] UM AND I THINK COMES WITH
[39:50] COLETTE AS A PART I MAY HAVE
[39:51] ASKED A QUESTION THAT TOUCHES
[39:52] BUT I WASN'T FULLY HEARING OR I
[39:54] WAS TRYING TO WORK ON A
[39:56] QUESTION WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS
[39:59] OF TAKING UH, THE FOOD SCRAPS
[40:00] FOOD WASTE OUT OF THE REGULAR
[40:03] MAINSTREAM TRASH FOR THE CITY?
[40:07] YEAH.
[40:08] I THINK AT A HIGH LEVEL.
[40:09] SO THE REST OF THE GARBAGE
[40:10] COLLECTED IN THE BLACK BEANS
[40:11] TRADITIONALLY GOES TO A WASTE
[40:13] ENERGY PLANT.
[40:14] IN WHICH ONES.
[40:15] DO YOU SERVICE?
[40:17] BRAINTREE?
[40:17] SAUGUS?
[40:18] REVERE?
[40:18] UM.
[40:19] SO IT IS BURNED UH, AND SO
[40:22] UH BUT IT'S ALSO CO-MINGLED
[40:23] WITH EVERYTHING ELSE THAT
[40:24] PEOPLE THROW OUT.
[40:24] SO IT'S COMING UP WITH PLASTICS
[40:25] AND METALS AND PACKAGING.
[40:27] UH, SO YOU'RE THE.
[40:28] MATTRESSES ON THE MATTRESSES
[40:29] THERE AS WELL?
[40:29] NO.
[40:30] WELL NO WE NO LONGER PICK UP I
[40:32] MEAN OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE
[40:33] PUTTING MATTRESSES INTO.
[40:34] THOSE RESTROOMS WE DON'T IN
[40:36] BOSTON WE HAVE A VERY
[40:37] SUCCESSFUL SORT OF MATTRESS
[40:38] DIVERSION PROGRAM.
[40:39] AND WHERE DO THOSE MATTRESS ALL
[40:40] RIGHT I'M WITH THEM.
[40:41] QUESTION WHERE ARE THOSE
[40:42] MATTRESSES GOING.
[40:44] TO CHARLESTOWN.
[40:45] BUT I CAN GET BACK.
[40:46] TO YOU ON OH OKAY.
[40:47] AND THEY GET LIKE
[40:48] DECONSTRUCTED LIKE.
[40:49] 75% OF THE MATTRESS MATERIAL.
[40:51] IS RECYCLABLE WHICH IS THE
[40:53] REASON WHY THAT.
[40:54] WAS BANNED.
[40:54] AWESOME.
[40:55] THANK YOU.
[40:55] AND WE DON'T AS A REMINDER WE
[40:57] DO NOT WANT PEOPLE PICKING UP
[40:58] MATTRESSES ON THE CURB BECAUSE.
[41:00] OF BEDBUGS AND.
[41:00] STUFF RIGHT?
[41:00] IT'S NOT A.
[41:01] YES LIKE WE DON'T RECYCLE THOSE
[41:02] ONSITE OR.
[41:03] REUSE THOSE ONSITE.
[41:05] UM SO SO WE WANT TO AVOID LIKE
[41:09] THE WASTE ENERGY IS GREAT IF
[41:10] IT'S IT'S BETTER THAN JUST
[41:12] WASTE SITTING IN A LANDFILL BUT
[41:13] LIKE WE WANT TO REDUCE THAT
[41:14] BECAUSE THAT IS NOT A CIRCULAR
[41:16] ECONOMY.
[41:16] WE SPEND A LOT OF UH ENERGY AND
[41:19] UM AND COST CREATING FOOD AND
[41:21] SO YOU WANT TO KEEP THOSE FOOD
[41:23] WASTE AND SORT OF HIGHER UM,
[41:24] UH, YOU KNOW, CIRCULAR.
[41:25] USES AND SO COMPOSTING IS SORT
[41:27] OF THAT HIGHER CIRCULAR USE
[41:29] BECAUSE YOU'RE TAKING ALL
[41:30] OF THAT ORGANIC MATTER AND
[41:31] PUTTING IT BACK ON, YOU KNOW,
[41:33] TO PRODUCE FURTHER ORGANIC
[41:34] MATTER.
[41:35] SO WE'RE FULLY SUPPORTIVE
[41:36] OF THE STATE WANTING TO GET
[41:37] FOOD WASTE OUT OF THE WASTE
[41:38] STREAM.
[41:38] THE QUESTION IS LIKE WHAT ARE
[41:40] THE WHAT ARE THE AVAILABLE
[41:41] HIGHEST AND BEST USES IF IT IS
[41:43] CO-MINGLED WITH WASTEWATER THAT
[41:44] KIND OF DOWNGRADES IT BECAUSE
[41:46] THEN YOU'RE MIXING IT WITH
[41:47] WASTE AND MIXING WITH THOSE
[41:48] PATHOGENS AND MIXING WITH PFOA
[41:49] WHICH IS VERY HARD TO GET OUT
[41:51] OF.
[41:51] SO IT LIMITS THEN THE END USE
[41:52] OF WHATEVER THE SOLID IS THAT'S
[41:53] COMING OUT OF THAT.
[41:54] UM.
[41:55] THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN YOU
[41:56] KNOW, I MEAN THE HIGHEST BASIC
[41:57] YOU KNOW, AVAILABILITY IS IS
[41:59] PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO COMPOST,
[42:01] UH, IN THEIR HOMES AND THEN USE
[42:02] THAT COMPOST BECAUSE THEN THEY
[42:04] ARE HIGHLY INCENTIVIZED TO MAKE
[42:05] SURE THAT THAT IS A CLEAN
[42:06] PRODUCT WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT
[42:07] OF CONTAMINANTS.
[42:08] UM, BUT WE FULLY APPRECIATE
[42:09] THAT'S NOT A VIABLE OPTION FOR
[42:10] MOST BOSTON HOUSEHOLDS.
[42:11] IT'S LIKE HOW DO WE KEEP THAT
[42:13] AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE?
[42:13] YEAH, I THINK WE'VE DONE A
[42:15] GREAT JOB ON UM THE COMPOSTING
[42:17] OF YARD WASTE AND BEING ABLE TO
[42:18] GET THAT BACK OUT, UM, TO
[42:20] COMMUNITIES IN BOSTON TO USE ON
[42:21] THEIR OWN GARDENS.
[42:22] BUT THE CHALLENGE IS AGAIN THE
[42:24] THE CONTAMINANT.
[42:26] PROCESS AND THEN.
[42:26] MAKING SURE THAT YOU KNOW WHAT
[42:28] THAT WASTE IS UM AND WHAT THAT
[42:30] IDEALLY THE FOOD WASTE IS IS
[42:32] USED FOR ITS HIGHEST AVAILABLE
[42:33] USE BASED ON THE QUALITY.
[42:35] OF THE PRODUCT.
[42:35] THANK YOU.
[42:37] I HAVE THREE MORE QUESTIONS.
[42:37] OH DID YOU HAVE OKAY, UM TWO
[42:39] MORE QUESTIONS OR I MIGHT HAVE
[42:40] TO GO TO STICK AROUND BUT UM,
[42:41] LIKE I TOLD YOU THIS MORNING, I
[42:43] JUST I JUST CAUGHT MY EYE AS I
[42:44] WAS COMING HOME EARLY THIS
[42:45] MORNING.
[42:46] UM, I JUST CAUGHT, UH, THE FOOD
[42:49] WASTE BIN AND I HAD MY I DIDN'T
[42:51] HAVE LIKE A BIG BAG THIS WEEK.
[42:52] IT WAS LIKE A HALF FILLED GREEN
[42:55] BAG.
[42:55] I KEEP IT IN MY FREEZER.
[42:57] UH, MY MOM DOES IT DIFFERENTLY,
[42:59] RIGHT?
[42:59] SHE KEEPS HER COMPOST.
[43:02] IN HER.
[43:03] UH, KITCHEN AND SHE COOKS A LOT
[43:04] MORE THAN I DO.
[43:05] UM, RIGHT.
[43:06] SO SHE HAS A LOT MORE FOOD.
[43:07] SCRAPS.
[43:08] AND SO I THINK THE BIWEEKLY
[43:09] IS GREAT BECAUSE TODAY THIS
[43:12] MORNING I SAID LIKE IF I'M NOT
[43:13] ABLE TO CATCH THE THEN I'LL
[43:15] JUST WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK AND
[43:16] IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.
[43:17] SO THAT'S PERFECT FOR SOMEONE
[43:18] LIKE ME FOR SOMEONE LIKE MY
[43:19] MOTHER WAS A LOT OF FOOD SCRAPS
[43:21] AND WHO DOESN'T FREEZE?
[43:23] I'M WONDERING WHAT SORT
[43:25] OF EDUCATION CAN BE DONE OR
[43:26] SHOULD BE DONE MOVING TO A BI
[43:28] WEEKLY SCHEDULE FOR THOSE LIKE
[43:31] MY MOM ALSO HAS LIKE MULTIPLE
[43:33] FREEZERS AND ALL OF THEM ARE
[43:35] FULL RIGHT?
[43:36] SO LIKE MAYBE FREEZING ISN'T
[43:38] THE BEST METHOD OF MAINTAINING
[43:40] FOR A TWO WEEK PERIOD BUT WHAT
[43:42] IS GOING LIKE?
[43:42] WHAT IS THE EDUCATION ALONGSIDE
[43:44] HOW WE WAIT FOR A TWO WEEK FOR
[43:47] THOSE WHO THEY NEED THAT TWO
[43:48] WEEK THAT TWO WEEK PERIOD MAY
[43:49] BE A BIT OF AN ADJUSTMENT.
[43:52] FREEZING AND SO FAR.
[43:53] THE RECOMMENDED SOLUTION UH IN.
[43:56] THIS.
[43:56] CASE BUT IF YOU'RE RUNNING.
[43:57] OUT OF CAPACITY I CAN CHECK.
[43:58] IN WITH THE.
[43:59] TEAM AND.
[43:59] SEE HOW TO WORK WITH THAT
[44:00] SPECIFIC CASE.
[44:01] OF, YOU KNOW, YOUR.
[44:03] EXHAUST IDEA OF FREEZING
[44:04] CAPACITY.
[44:04] WHAT DO YOU DO?
[44:06] I ALSO JUST DON'T THINK THAT MY
[44:07] MOTHER IS ALONE AND I THINK
[44:08] THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE PEOPLE
[44:09] WHO ACTUALLY AREN'T FREEZING
[44:11] AND WHO ARE BECAUSE I GO IN
[44:13] PEOPLE'S HOMES AND I SEE IT
[44:14] THAT THEY HAVE THE BINS IN
[44:15] THEIR KITCHENS AND THEY TAKE IT
[44:17] OUT.
[44:18] THE OTHER TWO.
[44:19] THINGS THAT.
[44:20] WE'RE OFFERING IS UPGRADING
[44:22] YOUR BIN SIZE.
[44:23] SO IF YOU HAVE THE.
[44:24] BUCKET YOU CAN GO TO THE BIGGER
[44:25] BIN YOU COULD REQUEST AN
[44:27] ADDITIONAL BIN.
[44:27] YOU CAN HAVE AN ADDITIONAL
[44:29] COUNTERTOP BIN ALL.
[44:30] OF THESE AS CONVENIENT.
[44:32] SOLUTIONS UNTIL YOUR PICKUP DAY
[44:34] COMES OR.
[44:34] ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT.
[44:36] UH WE CAN COMBINE.
[44:37] WITH THIS ROAD.
[44:39] OKAY.
[44:40] THANK YOU.
[44:40] I HAVE MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT.
[44:41] I'LL WAIT FOR THE SECOND ROUND.
[44:43] THANK YOU.
[44:45] WE ARE ALSO.
[44:45] JOINED BY COUNCIL SHARON DURKAN
[44:48] .
[44:49] AS WELL.
[44:49] UM, JUST REMINDING THE.
[44:51] COLLEAGUES THAT JUST.
[44:52] CAME IN UM GIVING EACH CITY.
[44:55] COUNCIL SIX MINUTES AND WE
[44:56] PROBABLY.
[44:57] WILL DO.
[44:57] A SECOND SECOND ROUND AS
[45:00] WELL.
[45:01] UM, IF YOU.
[45:02] GO OVER THE SIX MINUTES.
[45:03] CONTINUE ASKING YOUR QUESTION.
[45:04] I'M NOT GOING TO.
[45:05] CUT YOU OFF.
[45:06] UM, COUNCIL MURPHY.
[45:08] YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
[45:09] THANK YOU.
[45:10] CHAIR.
[45:10] UM.
[45:11] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND
[45:13] .
[45:14] I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT MY
[45:16] FIRST TERM HERE ON THE COUNCIL.
[45:19] COUNCILOR BOK WAS A STRONG
[45:20] ADVOCATE FOR THIS AND PROJECT
[45:22] OSCAR AND.
[45:22] GETTING THE, YOU KNOW, THE
[45:24] GREEN.
[45:24] BINS OUT AND I SEE SOME
[45:28] DEFINITELY WANT IT MY MOM.
[45:29] SO I DO HAVE.
[45:30] QUESTIONS ABOUT.
[45:31] THE BI WEEKLY.
[45:32] ALSO UM SHE REPURPOSES AND
[45:35] USES.
[45:36] IT.
[45:36] FOR MANY DIFFERENT REASONS BUT
[45:37] HAS UM 10% SEEMS LOW.
[45:41] I KNOW WE STARTED THIS
[45:44] OBVIOUSLY WITH THE HOPE TO
[45:47] EXPAND AND THERE'S A WAITING
[45:49] LIST.
[45:50] BUT IS THERE AN EDUCATION PIECE
[45:53] AND WHERE ARE THOSE.
[45:55] 10% OF THE HOMES?
[45:56] DO WE.
[45:57] HAVE THE DATA OF WHO'S.
[45:58] USING THEM NOW?
[46:00] YEAH.
[46:00] SO UM IT'S A GREAT QUESTION
[46:02] I THINK REALLY UNDERSCORES THE
[46:03] FACT THAT THIS IS REALLY THIS
[46:04] IS.
[46:04] A.
[46:04] PILOT AND.
[46:05] A PILOT AS BOTH CHIEF SWEAT
[46:07] AND VOLKER.
[46:07] TALKED ABOUT AS.
[46:08] WE ARE LOOKING TO LEARN.
[46:09] AND CONTINUE TO FIGURE OUT
[46:10] HOW DO WE ACTUALLY.
[46:11] SCALE THIS UM.
[46:12] SO WE KNOW WHERE THE.
[46:13] ENROLLEES ARE.
[46:14] UM.
[46:15] WE DON'T HAVE.
[46:16] GRANULAR INFORMATION THAT.
[46:17] SORT OF USE BY.
[46:18] ENROLLEE AND.
[46:19] NEIGHBORHOOD BUT HAPPY TO.
[46:20] GET YOU THE SORT OF BY
[46:21] NEIGHBORHOOD BREAKDOWN.
[46:22] UH.
[46:22] HOW WOULD WE LIKE.
[46:24] DO.
[46:24] THE COLLECTORS.
[46:26] KEEP DATA.
[46:27] BECAUSE I NOTICED SOME
[46:29] NEIGHBORS DON'T EVER PUT THEM
[46:31] OUT.
[46:32] SOME DO.
[46:33] SOME MAY BE REPURPOSING ALL
[46:35] OF IT.
[46:35] SO HOW ARE WE COMMUNICATING.
[46:39] WITH THOSE WHO ARE IN THIS
[46:41] PILOT?
[46:44] UM SO I DO THAT'S A.
[46:45] PRETTY.
[46:46] GOOD JOB.
[46:46] THEY HAVE A LOT OF WAYS TO
[46:47] REACH OUT.
[46:48] THEY SEND REGULAR
[46:49] COMMUNICATIONS.
[46:49] THEY ALSO CANVASS.
[46:50] THEY GO DOOR TO DOOR, SPEAK TO
[46:52] RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND YOU
[46:53] KNOW, WE HAVE AN AUDIT PROCESS
[46:55] IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT
[46:56] WE'RE SERVICING THE RESIDENTS
[46:58] WHAT USING THE PROGRAM.
[47:00] SO UM, WE STARTED THAT LAST
[47:02] FALL JUST TO FIGURE OUT, UM,
[47:04] CAN BE REPURPOSED BINS THAT ARE
[47:06] NOT BEING USED TO GIVE THEM TO
[47:08] HOMES THAT NEED THEM.
[47:09] UM, AND IN THAT PROCESS WE ALSO
[47:11] THE VENDOR ALSO ENGAGES AND
[47:12] TALKS ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THAT
[47:14] THE RESIDENTS ARE FACING TRYING
[47:15] TO GET THEM TO USE THE.
[47:17] SERVICE MORE AND IF THEY
[47:19] REPEATEDLY THEY HAVE A PROTOCOL
[47:20] IF THEY REPEATEDLY NOTICE, UH.
[47:22] A LACK OF ACTION.
[47:23] OR.
[47:23] SET OUT.
[47:24] THEY WILL TAKE THE BIN AWAY AND
[47:25] THEN SEND IT TO A HOME.
[47:26] SO THAT'S ONE.
[47:27] PART OF THE UM.
[47:29] MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW,
[47:31] ANYBODY'S CHALLENGES ARE
[47:32] ADDRESSED IN THAT PROCESS.
[47:33] AND IS THE WAITING LIST THE
[47:36] ORIGINAL AND HAVE WE LIKE
[47:38] UPDATED IT?
[47:39] IS IT ONE LIKE GET DROPPED LIKE
[47:41] OUR SCHOOL WAITING LIST?
[47:42] HOW DOES THE WAITING.
[47:43] LIST WORK?
[47:45] UM AH WHEN WE WHEN WE STARTED
[47:47] DOING THIS ANALYSIS IT WAS AT
[47:49] 1600 AND WITHIN THAT TIME IT
[47:51] HAD GROWN ANOTHER HUNDRED SO WE
[47:52] WERE 1700 AS EARLY AS COUNT.
[47:56] UM THE WINNER ANTICIPATES THAT
[47:57] IT'LL TAKE A MONTH FOR THEM TO
[47:59] START PROCESSING EVERYBODY ON
[48:00] THE WAITLIST TO START GIVING
[48:02] THEM THE PIN, STARTING.
[48:03] THE SERVICE, SENDING THEM THE
[48:05] STARTER KITS.
[48:05] AND AND THEN EXPAND BEYOND
[48:06] THAT.
[48:08] AND HAVE WE TAKEN ANYONE OFF
[48:10] THE LIST WHEN WE PULL BIDS FROM
[48:12] FAMILIES.
[48:12] WHO.
[48:13] WE KNOW HAVEN'T BEEN USING IT
[48:14] SO WE CAN STAY AT THAT ORIGINAL
[48:15] THRESHOLD?
[48:16] UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
[48:18] I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT ANSWER TO
[48:19] THAT, BUT I.
[48:20] CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
[48:22] AND DO YOU FEEL AS THOUGH WE
[48:25] CAN EXPAND SUCCESSFULLY LIKE DO
[48:28] WE HAVE THE TOOLS IN PLACE TO
[48:30] BE SUCCESSFUL.
[48:31] NOT JUST WE.
[48:32] SAID WE'D WAIT AND WE'LL.
[48:33] GET TO THIS LIST SO WE HAVE TO
[48:35] BUT WE'RE.
[48:35] PREPARED FOR THAT.
[48:37] YES, WE DO HAVE AN ACTION.
[48:39] PLAN UH, OF RESOLVING THE
[48:40] WAITLIST FIRST AS PRIORITY.
[48:42] BUT THEN WE ALSO HAVE A
[48:43] PROJECTION FROM THE WINDOW
[48:44] OF HOW MANY MORE HOUSEHOLDS
[48:46] THEY CAN ADD IN THE YEAR.
[48:47] UM, WE HAVE BUDGETED BINS FOR
[48:49] THAT.
[48:50] UM, SO WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO
[48:52] EXPAND BEYOND THE.
[48:53] WAITLIST AND IF YOU COULD JUST
[48:55] SPEAK TO THE 20 IS THAT STILL
[48:58] THE NUMBER OF THE PROJECT OSCAR
[49:01] BINS ACROSS THE CITY HOW
[49:02] THEY'RE DOING AND HOW THEY'RE
[49:06] GETTING EMPTIED IN ALL AND ARE
[49:07] THEY STAYING CLEAN AND UH THEY
[49:10] SUCCESSFUL.
[49:12] UM WE SEE A VARIETY OF.
[49:13] BEHAVIORS ACROSS UH.
[49:14] ,OSCAR BINS.
[49:15] THERE'S SOME.
[49:16] NEIGHBORHOODS THEY.
[49:16] WANT MORE.
[49:17] OF THEM.
[49:17] THEY WANT MORE BINS.
[49:18] PER LOCATION.
[49:20] UM, SO.
[49:21] WE ALSO DO THE SAME ACTIVITY.
[49:23] FOR OUR PROJECT.
[49:23] OSCAR.
[49:24] UH.
[49:25] TRY AND DO AS MUCH OUTREACH.
[49:26] AS POSSIBLE.
[49:27] UM, BUS.
[49:28] SHELTER STOPS, UM BUS BUSSES.
[49:31] MEDIA EDUCATION, UM
[49:34] NEWSLETTERS, UH.
[49:35] OUTREACH THROUGH.
[49:36] I.N.S. ALL.
[49:36] OF THESE THINGS WE TRY TO
[49:39] INCREASE USAGE OF AN OSCAR BAN
[49:41] BUT.
[49:42] BECAUSE WE HAVE CAPACITY.
[49:43] CONSTRAINTS AS WELL ON THAT
[49:44] SIDE SOMETIMES WE WOULD TAKE A
[49:46] BEAN THAT HAS NOT BEEN
[49:47] PERFORMING TOO WELL OVER A VERY
[49:49] LONG PERIOD OF TIME INTO A
[49:50] PLACE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ACTIVELY
[49:51] REACHING OUT.
[49:52] SAYING WE.
[49:53] WANT MORE OSCAR WINNING
[49:54] CAPACITY IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
[49:56] SO WE'VE DONE.
[49:56] HAVE WE HAVE MOVED WHEN WE SAW
[49:58] YES, YES.
[49:59] SO WE.
[49:59] HAVE DONE THAT.
[50:01] UH LAST YEAR AND CAN WE SPEAK
[50:02] TO.
[50:03] THE FOOD THAT WE SERVE AT
[50:06] COMMUNITY CENTERS, SENIOR
[50:07] CENTERS, SCHOOLS HOW ARE THEY
[50:09] TIED IN AND DO THEY ALSO USE A
[50:13] SIMILAR OR AN ACTUAL SAY OSCAR
[50:16] BEAN.
[50:18] TO I.
[50:18] BELIEVE THAT.
[50:19] THE SCHOOLS.
[50:19] ARE LIKE 40 SCHOOLS THAT.
[50:21] HAVE UM THE FARM TO TABLE
[50:23] PROGRAM THAT ALSO HAS.
[50:24] COMBINATION OF.
[50:27] UM FOOD WASTE.
[50:28] EDUCATION AND SEPARATION.
[50:30] THE EXACT NUMBER OF HOW MANY.
[50:33] ARE ACTUALLY SENDING IT TO UH
[50:35] FOOD WASTE COLLECTION.
[50:36] I CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON UH,
[50:38] DON'T HAVE A LITTLE.
[50:39] PLAN AND DO ALL OF OUR HOUSING
[50:43] HAVE COMPOST?
[50:44] NOT ALL OF THEM DO.
[50:45] ANY OF THEM SOME OF THEM SOME
[50:47] OF US IN ARE THOSE USED OR ARE
[50:50] THEY SOME OF THE LOWER USE
[50:52] BECAUSE THEN THAT TIES INTO THE
[50:53] WHOLE EDUCATION.
[50:55] PIECE ALSO BIGGER ONES ARE
[50:57] USED.
[50:58] I THINK BHP HAS A SEPARATE
[50:59] COMPOST PROGRAM.
[51:01] UM BUT BECAUSE THEY'RE LIKE
[51:02] MULTI-UNIT APARTMENT BUILDINGS
[51:04] IT FILLS UP QUICKLY.
[51:06] UM THAT'S ALSO ONE OF THE
[51:07] DEPARTMENT I CAN GET BACK TO
[51:09] AND UNDERSTAND JUST HOW MUCH
[51:10] OF THE BUDGET AND THEN GREAT
[51:11] QUESTION AND ONE OTHER QUESTION
[51:13] ABOUT THESE KIND OF PUBLIC
[51:14] OSCAR BINS.
[51:16] UH, DO WE DISCOURAGE OR IS IT
[51:18] NOT ALLOWED TO SAY LIKE HAVE A
[51:21] RESTAURANT OR LIKE A SMALL
[51:22] COFFEE SHOP?
[51:22] OBVIOUSLY NOT A BIG RESTAURANT
[51:25] CHAIN WOULD USE THEM BUT ARE
[51:27] THEY ALLOWED TO DROP OFF LIKE
[51:28] IS THERE ANY RESTRICTION ON WHO
[51:31] FILLS THEM?
[51:32] DO WE FIND SOME OVERFLOWING
[51:33] BECAUSE CERTAIN BUSINESSES ARE
[51:35] USING THEM OR NO, WE'VE NOT HAD
[51:38] A WHOLE LOT OF UM ILLEGAL
[51:40] DUMPING ON THE OSCAR BEANS.
[51:42] SOME OF THEM IT IS CODED UH, SO
[51:45] YOU NEED TO HAVE A CODE TO
[51:46] ACCESS IT TO OPEN WHICH IS
[51:48] PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IF YOU
[51:49] REALLY WANTED TO.
[51:49] YOU CAN BUT UH, WE HAVE NOT
[51:51] HEARD TOO MANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT
[51:52] COMMERCIAL ENTITIES USING IT,
[51:54] BUT WE WANT TO PROVIDE THAT
[51:56] ACCESS ONLY TO RESIDENTS, UH,
[51:57] FOR NOW FOR THE OSCAR BAN.
[51:59] AND ONE LAST JUST CURIOUS IS IS
[52:04] THERE, UM, AN ISSUE LARGE
[52:07] ENOUGH TO BE CONCERNED THAT
[52:08] PEOPLE MISUSE THE GREEN ONES
[52:09] THINKING THEY'RE JUST SMALL
[52:11] RECYCLE BINS BECAUSE I HAVE
[52:12] SEEN PEOPLE MAKE THAT LIKE
[52:13] PUTTING THE WRONG THINGS IN AND
[52:15] NOT REALIZING EVEN THOUGH IT'S
[52:16] OBVIOUSLY BLUE GREEN.
[52:17] BUT IS THAT BEEN A PROBLEM WITH
[52:20] THOSE WHO ARE GOING AROUND
[52:21] PICKING THEM UP?
[52:22] IT IS A LITTLE BIT CONTAMINATED
[52:24] .
[52:24] UM, WE DON'T REALLY GET A LOT
[52:27] OF UPDATES FROM OUR CURBSIDE
[52:28] VENDOR ON CONTAMINATION ALSO
[52:30] BECAUSE IT GOES TO AN 80
[52:31] FACILITY WHICH IS ABLE TO
[52:32] HANDLE ALL OF THIS.
[52:33] BUT ON THE OTHER HAND PROJECT
[52:35] OSCAR FOR EXAMPLE WE GET
[52:36] CONTAMINATION REPORTS ALL THE
[52:37] TIME.
[52:37] THERE'S A CONTAMINATION FEE
[52:38] BUILT INTO OUR CONTRACT SO
[52:40] THERE IS ACTIVE EDUCATION GOING
[52:42] ON THERE THAT YOU KNOW WE ARE
[52:43] NOT GOING TO PICK UP THIS LOAD
[52:44] IF IT HAS ONLY PLASTICS IN IT
[52:46] RIGHT?
[52:46] SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
[52:48] BETWEEN COMPOST AND 80.
[52:49] OKAY THANK YOU.
[52:51] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[52:52] THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
[52:55] UM COUNCILOR FITZGERALD YOU
[52:56] HAVE THE FLOOR.
[52:57] THANK YOU CHAIR UH, AND I
[53:00] COULDN'T HELP BUT CHUCKLE
[53:01] DURING THIS HEARING MY WIFE
[53:02] SENT ME A TEXT AND SAID HEY, BY
[53:03] THE WAY, UH, THE FOOD WASTE IS
[53:05] GOING TO EVERY TWO WEEKS.
[53:07] JOHN, UH, JUST SO YOU KNOW, I
[53:08] SAID SO I'M HEARING THIS LIKE
[53:10] UH UM LITERALLY WHILE WE'RE
[53:12] HERE, UH, WE ARE A PARTICIPANT
[53:13] UH, IN THIS AND WE DO HAVE THE
[53:15] GREEN BELT BUT THANK YOU FOR
[53:16] THE COMMUNICATION.
[53:17] ONCE THE EMAIL WENT OUT AND I
[53:18] WAS WORKING, IT GOT UH IT GOT
[53:20] TO THE GUY WHO TAKES THE TRASH
[53:21] OUT.
[53:22] UM, SO I KNOW MY ROLE NOW.
[53:24] UM, BUT I DO THINK ABOUT NOW
[53:27] WHAT THIS MEANS BECAUSE WE FILL
[53:28] IT UP PRETTY GOOD, RIGHT?
[53:29] YOU GOT THREE KIDS.
[53:30] UH, THERE'S A LOT OF PEANUT
[53:32] BUTTER AND JELLY CRUST AND THE
[53:33] NIGHTS DAD COOKS, MOST OF IT
[53:35] ENDS UP IN THE BIN.
[53:36] RIGHT?
[53:37] AND, UM, SO I'M TRYING TO THINK
[53:40] OF I HEARD YOU SAID WE COULD
[53:41] ASK FOR A BIGGER BIN.
[53:43] IS THAT ANY ADDED COST OR IS
[53:44] THAT JUST A REQUEST.
[53:45] FOR NO NO NO, I ADDED FOR A
[53:47] BIN.
[53:48] OKAY.
[53:49] UM, AND HOW MUCH BIGGER IS
[53:50] THE BIN FROM.
[53:51] THE FROM THE SMALL.
[53:51] BUCKET THAT WE HAVE NOW.
[53:53] DO YOU HAVE THE FIVE GALLON?
[53:54] IT MUST BE A FIVE GALLON.
[53:56] YEAH SO YOU CAN GO UP TO 1212.
[53:58] OKAY SO SUBSETS OF OF OVER
[53:59] TWICE THE SIZE OKAY GREAT.
[54:01] UM JUST THINKING ABOUT PEOPLE'S
[54:02] WHERE THEY STORE IT IF THERE'S
[54:04] ENOUGH SPACE ETC..
[54:07] UM WE DON'T DO ANYTHING FOR THE
[54:09] BIODEGRADABLE BAGS THAT ARE
[54:10] RIGHT.
[54:11] WE I BELIEVE FAMILIES HAVE TO
[54:12] BUY THOSE PERSONALLY, RIGHT.
[54:14] THAT'S NOT PART OF THE PROGRAM.
[54:17] YEAH OKAY.
[54:18] NO IT'S NOT GREAT.
[54:20] UM, SO I FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST
[54:23] PAIN THEY'LL JUST BE
[54:25] REMEMBERING WHAT WEEK IT IS,
[54:26] RIGHT?
[54:27] UM, AND THAT'S FINE.
[54:28] I HAVE THE TRASH OUT THERE.
[54:29] I'LL BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT
[54:30] EASILY AND I THINK, UM, FOR
[54:32] ANYONE LISTENING IN THAT SORT
[54:33] OF LIKE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE
[54:34] TRASH APP GET IT?
[54:35] IT HELPS BIG TIME WITH BOTH UM,
[54:37] YOU KNOW, LEAVE LEAVES AND
[54:38] OTHER STUFF TAKE AWAY AS WELL
[54:40] AS THIS NOW UM AND I GUESS THE
[54:44] OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS SORT
[54:46] OF A MORE OVERALL THING.
[54:46] IT'S IT'S IT'S A SORT OF A
[54:49] COMEDIC JOKE THAT GETS BROUGHT
[54:50] UP ALL THE TIME.
[54:51] I SPEND ALL THE TIME SEPARATING
[54:52] EVERYTHING.
[54:53] DOES IT ACTUALLY MATTER?
[54:54] RIGHT?
[54:55] AND DOES IT GO TO THE RIGHT
[54:56] PLACE?
[54:56] IT'S NOT JUST FOOD WASTE BUT
[54:57] RECYCLING IN GENERAL.
[54:58] RIGHT.
[54:58] AND UM, I'VE HEARD LATELY THAT
[55:01] WE I MEAN I KNOW THAT WE I
[55:02] THINK AS A COUNTRY WAS TO SELL
[55:03] IT OFF TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND
[55:04] THEN TO INDIA OR SOMETHING LIKE
[55:06] THAT AND THEY DID STUFF WITH IT
[55:07] BUT THEY MIGHT NOT BE ACCEPTING
[55:08] IT AS MUCH ANYMORE.
[55:09] WE'RE NOT PAYING AS MUCH.
[55:11] I'M FROM I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT
[55:13] I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
[55:13] I'M LOOKING FOR YOU GUYS TO
[55:14] TELL ME UM BUT SO ARE WE
[55:17] ACTUALLY STILL SEPARATE?
[55:19] DOES IT I MEAN FROM AND DOES IT
[55:21] MATTER?
[55:21] IS IT ALL GOOD?
[55:22] A LOT OF PEOPLE JUST GOES ALL
[55:23] GOES TO THE SAME PLACE ANYWAY,
[55:25] HOW DO WE START TO DEBUNK THAT
[55:26] MINDSET?
[55:29] I NEVER GOT IT.
[55:33] UM, SO.
[55:33] UH, IF YOU'RE PUTTING OUT TRASH
[55:35] THAT'S GOING TO A WASTE ENERGY
[55:36] PLANT UM, AS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED
[55:38] IF YOU'RE PUTTING OUT YOUR FOOD
[55:39] WASTE UH, IT IS GOING UH EITHER
[55:42] TO A SMALL AMOUNT GOING TO A
[55:43] COMPOSTING FACILITY, A LARGE
[55:44] AMOUNT GOING TO AN ANAEROBIC
[55:45] DIGESTION FACILITY IF YOU'RE
[55:47] PUTTING OUT YARD WASTE THAT IS
[55:48] GOING TO A A YARD WASTE
[55:49] COMPOSTING SITE PRINCIPALLY ON
[55:51] AMERICAN LEGION HIGHWAY IF.
[55:52] YOU'RE.
[55:52] PUTTING OUT YOUR RECYCLABLES
[55:54] THAT IS GOING TO A MATERIALS
[55:56] RECOVERY FACILITY IN
[55:57] CHARLESTOWN.
[55:57] UM AND BEHIND YOUR QUESTIONS
[55:59] REALLY THEN WHAT HAPPENS THERE
[56:00] ONCE THE RECYCLABLES GET
[56:03] SEPARATED AND I THINK THERE AND
[56:04] YOU YOU MAY ALREADY NOTICE IF
[56:06] NOT WE CAN WE CAN COME BACK TO
[56:07] YOU ON THERE LIKE HERE'S HERE'S
[56:08] THE SORT OF AFTERMARKET OF THE
[56:10] THINGS THAT GO TO THE UM TO THE
[56:12] SITE IN CHARLESTOWN ABOUT WHERE
[56:14] THAT ACTUALLY GOES.
[56:15] YEAH, I THINK I DO WANT TO BUT
[56:17] I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I
[56:18] THINK TO CHANGE PEOPLE'S
[56:19] MINDSET ABOUT THAT OR TO
[56:21] PARTICIPATE MORE IF THEY KNEW
[56:23] WHERE IT JUST GOES TO HERE TO
[56:25] GET RECYCLE GREAT.
[56:26] BUT WHAT IS THE AFTERMATH OF IT
[56:28] AND SAY OKAY NOW I SEE WHAT I'M
[56:30] CONTRIBUTING TO.
[56:31] IT MIGHT SPUR THEM MORE.
[56:32] YES.
[56:33] YEAH UM.
[56:35] I DEFINITELY.
[56:35] AGREE.
[56:36] DON'T HIT THE BUTTON THAT ALSO.
[56:37] YEAH I DEFINITELY AGREE THAT UM
[56:40] IF WE HAD SOMETHING MORE.
[56:41] VISUAL TO.
[56:42] SEE WHERE IT ACTUALLY ENDS UP
[56:44] GOING IT WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW,
[56:46] CONNECT THE DOTS IN SOMEBODY'S
[56:47] HEAD.
[56:47] WE WENT TO THE MORE FACILITY.
[56:49] UM I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE
[56:50] VISITED THAT KEEP ORGANIZING
[56:52] TOURS AND IT'S VERY IMPRESSIVE
[56:54] TO SEE HOW YOU CAN BRING IN, UH
[56:56] ,YOU KNOW, MIXED UH, RECYCLING
[56:58] LOAD WITH PLASTICS PACKAGING
[57:01] GLASS, METAL BIKES.
[57:03] WE HAVE SOME BIKES ON THE
[57:04] CONVEYOR BELT, UM, GET
[57:06] SEPARATED INTO.
[57:07] CLEAN STREAMS OF ALUMINUM.
[57:08] CANS AND PLASTIC PACKAGING
[57:09] GLASS GETS CRUSHED AND REUSED.
[57:12] UH, IT DOES.
[57:13] GO UH BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS
[57:15] THOSE GUYS CHARGE.
[57:17] US FOR COLLECTION BUT THEN.
[57:18] PAY US BACK FOR WHAT THEY
[57:20] ARE SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY SELLING
[57:21] IT WHEN THERE IS A MARKET FOR
[57:23] IT.
[57:23] SO IT.
[57:24] DEFINITELY MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
[57:25] YEAH.
[57:26] UM IT'S JUST THAT WE.
[57:27] DON'T SEE TANGIBLY HOW IT IS
[57:30] GETTING USED, WHICH IS WHY
[57:31] PEOPLE FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, IS
[57:32] IT REALLY WORTH.
[57:33] IT TO DO THIS BUT.
[57:35] IT DEFINITELY GETS UH GETS
[57:37] USED.
[57:37] NO IT'S.
[57:38] GOOD I JUST WOULD SAY AT A
[57:39] HIGH LEVEL BECAUSE I THINK
[57:40] THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF.
[57:41] UM.
[57:42] COMMENTARY AND PRESS ON ON.
[57:43] RECYCLING AT A HIGH LEVEL THE
[57:45] WASTE STREAMS THAT ARE STILL
[57:46] VERY GOOD IN TERMS.
[57:48] OF, YOU KNOW, GOING TO.
[57:48] ANOTHER PRODUCT PAPER AND SO
[57:50] EASILY RECYCLABLE.
[57:51] UM SEPARATED.
[57:52] GLASS METALS.
[57:54] UM.
[57:54] SO.
[57:55] ALL YOUR ALUMINUM CANS TIN
[57:56] CANS.
[57:56] LIKE THOSE ARE VERY
[57:57] SUCCESSFUL.
[57:58] CIRCULAR YOU KNOW WASTE STREAMS
[57:59] THE THE ONE THAT HAS BEEN A
[58:01] CHALLENGE HAS BEEN PLASTICS AND
[58:02] THEN THE.
[58:02] TRIANGLE THAT PEOPLE SEE ON THE
[58:04] BOTTOM.
[58:04] I'M LIKE OH DO YOU DO A
[58:05] PLASTIC NUMBER THREE OR PLASTIC
[58:06] NUMBER FOUR.
[58:07] LIKE THAT WAS A CHALLENGE WE
[58:08] CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT
[58:09] YOU.
[58:10] KNOW, THE YOU KNOW,
[58:11] GREENWASHING.
[58:11] IN THE 1970S IN THE PLASTICS
[58:12] INDUSTRY BUT.
[58:13] SOME OF THOSE THINGS ARE NOT
[58:15] AS.
[58:15] RECYCLABLE AS ONE WOULD HOPE.
[58:16] YEAH RIGHT.
[58:16] BUT THE CORE ONES ARE LIKE
[58:18] PAPER METALS AND GLASS.
[58:20] THOSE ARE STILL YOU KNOW VERY
[58:21] WELL USE AND SEPARATED OUT AND
[58:23] IN OUR FACILITIES.
[58:24] I FEEL LIKE PLASTICS IS THE
[58:26] MAJORITY OF PEOPLE'S
[58:27] RECYCLABLES THESE DAYS.
[58:27] WELL AND IF I THINK ABOUT WHAT
[58:29] I PUT IN AND THAT'S A CHALLENGE
[58:31] I MEAN AND THAT'S WHY WHEN
[58:32] YOU'RE THINKING.
[58:32] ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE BUYING IN
[58:33] TERMS OF MY BUYING A.
[58:34] BOTTLE OF SOMETHING OR A.
[58:36] CAN OF SOMETHING YOU.
[58:37] KNOW, OR A GLASS.
[58:38] BOTTLE OF SOMETHING YOU WANT TO
[58:39] THINK ABOUT THAT.
[58:40] GOTCHA.
[58:40] UM, LAST QUESTION I HAVE IS
[58:42] I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT UH, THE
[58:44] HARD PART IS PLACING THESE
[58:45] FACILITIES WHEN WE WANT MORE
[58:46] OF THEM AND WE JUST HAD A
[58:47] HEARING UH, LAST WEEK OR TWO
[58:49] WEEKS AGO, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
[58:51] EVEN JUST THE TRASH OVER BY NEW
[58:52] MARKET REPUBLIC AND UM, UM,
[58:57] ROXBURY RESTORE I BELIEVE.
[58:58] RIGHT?
[58:58] YEAH.
[58:59] UH, NO NO.
[59:01] YEAH.
[59:01] REPUBLIC IN THE OTHER THERE'S
[59:02] THE OTHER ONE OVER THERE TO THE
[59:04] RECYCLING.
[59:05] UM AND SO, UH, WHERE ARE WE
[59:09] LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF LIKE IS
[59:11] IT IS DEALING WITH THE STATE
[59:12] AND SAYING HEY, WE'VE GOT TO
[59:13] FIND SOMETHING.
[59:14] I KNOW YOU SAID WHAT'S THE
[59:15] DIFFERENCE?
[59:16] WE TRACKING IT 85 MILES AWAY
[59:17] AND COMING BACK FIRST THE
[59:19] BENEFIT WE GET FROM THE ACTUAL
[59:21] RECYCLING UM BECAUSE I DON'T
[59:23] KNOW THERE'S A TON OF SPACE IN
[59:24] THE CITY ANYMORE.
[59:25] RIGHT?
[59:26] SO ARE WE SORT OF RESTRICTED
[59:27] THERE AND I WE MORE GOING TO
[59:29] RELY ON THE STATE GOING FORWARD
[59:30] I GUESS I'LL JUST SIMPLIFY
[59:31] THAT.
[59:32] SO THERE WAS A STUDY UH,
[59:34] CUSTOMER REFERENCE
[59:35] COUNCILOR THAT WAS UH THAT
[59:37] COUNCIL BUCKET REALLY
[59:39] CHAMPIONED TO LOOK AT POTENTIAL
[59:40] SITES CUSTOMER SHOUT OUT TO
[59:41] YOUR UH YOUR YOUR QUESTION.
[59:45] UM MY MY RECOLLECTION AND HAPPY
[59:46] TO SORT OF GET.
[59:47] THE THE DETAILS OF THIS UM TO
[59:49] THIS BODY.
[59:49] IS THAT THE UH.
[59:52] THERE ARE NOT NESTLÉ LOCATIONS
[59:54] WITHIN THE CITY OF BOSTON THAT
[59:55] MAKES SENSE FROM A COMPOSTING
[59:56] PERSPECTIVE IT MAYBE MORE
[59:57] TRANSFER SITES UM, OR TO GO TO
[59:59] MULTIPLE SITES THAT ARE OUTSIDE
[1:00:00] OF THE CITY, WHICH IS WHY I
[1:00:01] THINK WORKING WITHIN OUR REGION
[1:00:03] OR WITH THE COMMONWEALTH TO
[1:00:04] THINK ABOUT WHAT THOSE
[1:00:05] LOCATIONS ARE IS SOMETHING
[1:00:06] WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR US.
[1:00:08] WE ALL EXPAND THIS PROGRAM IN
[1:00:09] AN AFFORDABLE WAY.
[1:00:10] UM SO I FIGURED.
[1:00:12] YEAH, YEAH, NO.
[1:00:13] THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:00:14] IT'S I APPRECIATE.
[1:00:17] THAT THANK YOU.
[1:00:18] COUNCILOR, UH, COUNCILOR SHARON
[1:00:19] DURKAN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
[1:00:21] THANK YOU SO.
[1:00:22] MUCH, CHAIR.
[1:00:22] AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN
[1:00:23] FOR HOSTING THIS HEARING.
[1:00:24] I WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR CLOUD
[1:00:26] AS A PART OF HER FILING THIS
[1:00:27] HEARING AND INCLUDING ME AS A
[1:00:28] CO-SPONSOR.
[1:00:29] I'VE LONG BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR
[1:00:30] COMPOSTING PROGRAMS AND FOR
[1:00:32] GETTING MORE OF OUR RESIDENTS
[1:00:33] INVOLVED IN COMPOSTING AND
[1:00:35] READING THE MEMO FROM GARBAGE
[1:00:36] TO GARDEN.
[1:00:37] IT SEEMS LIKE ONE OF THE
[1:00:38] CONCERNS OF THIS PROGRAM, UM IS
[1:00:41] JUST THE COST PER TON CHALLENGE
[1:00:43] .
[1:00:43] UM, AND IT'S REALLY NOT UH, YOU
[1:00:45] KNOW, AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET
[1:00:47] MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THIS IN
[1:00:49] COMPOSTING AND TRYING TO GET
[1:00:51] MORE, UH, YOU KNOW, WASTE
[1:00:54] DIVERTED FROM UM, YOU KNOW, THE
[1:00:56] GARBAGE UH, I'M JUST CURIOUS
[1:00:58] HOW WE THINK ABOUT THAT COST
[1:01:00] PER TON CHALLENGE AND HOW WE
[1:01:02] THINK ABOUT BUILDING UP DENSITY
[1:01:03] .
[1:01:03] UM, I KNOW UH, THERE HAVE
[1:01:05] ALREADY BEEN SOME QUESTIONS
[1:01:06] ASKED TODAY ABOUT, UH, SORT
[1:01:09] OF THE.
[1:01:09] THE DEAL THAT WE'RE MAKING AND
[1:01:12] THE CONTRACT THAT WE'RE UM,
[1:01:14] MAKING AND I SUPPORT THOSE
[1:01:15] CHANGES.
[1:01:16] I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
[1:01:17] THAT WE, UH, MOVE TOWARDS UH,
[1:01:20] MAKING THIS MORE ACCESSIBLE FOR
[1:01:22] MORE PEOPLE EVEN IF THAT MEANS
[1:01:24] PICKING UP A LITTLE.
[1:01:24] BIT LESS.
[1:01:25] UM, I KNOW THAT I, UH I UTILIZE
[1:01:29] THE PROJECT OSCAR PROGRAM AND,
[1:01:30] UM, MY FREEZER IS CONSTANTLY
[1:01:33] FILLED WITH LIKE SCRAPS.
[1:01:35] UM, AND YOU KNOW, BITS
[1:01:37] OF CARROTS AND BITS OF ONIONS
[1:01:39] THAT I NEED TO HIT MY PROJECT
[1:01:40] OSCAR BEAN SOON.
[1:01:42] UM, SOME OF MY BIGGEST
[1:01:44] ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN OUR
[1:01:45] NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN, UH,
[1:01:47] SECURING A PROJECT OSCAR BEAN
[1:01:48] OUTSIDE OF THE FIREHOUSE IN
[1:01:49] BEACON HILL ON CAMBRIDGE
[1:01:50] STREET.
[1:01:51] UM, AND ALSO, UH, HELPING THE
[1:01:54] WEST END RESIDENTS SECURE, UH,
[1:01:56] THEIR PROJECT OSCAR BEAN ON
[1:01:57] CAUSEWAY STREET.
[1:01:58] THE BEACON HILL ONE HAS BEEN A
[1:02:00] HUGE SUCCESS AND IT IS ACTUALLY
[1:02:01] THE FIFTH MOST USED IN THE
[1:02:04] SYSTEM.
[1:02:05] SO UM SO WE KNOW THAT THAT THIS
[1:02:07] WORKS MANY RESIDENTS OF MY
[1:02:09] DISTRICT ARE DISMAYED ABOUT THE
[1:02:12] SIX UM, YOU KNOW, OUR FEWER
[1:02:14] UNIT UH, BECAUSE THAT CREATES A
[1:02:17] SYSTEM WHERE.
[1:02:17] BASICALLY THE DENSEST AREAS
[1:02:19] OF BOSTON ARE NOT INCLUDED IN
[1:02:21] THIS PROGRAM.
[1:02:22] UM AND SO THAT HAS BEEN MY
[1:02:24] INITIAL ADVOCACY.
[1:02:25] UM, BUT REALIZING HOW EXPENSIVE
[1:02:27] IT IS UM AND REALIZING ALSO
[1:02:31] THAT WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY
[1:02:32] THROUGH ARPA FUNDS TO CREATE A
[1:02:33] FACILITY AND I ENDED UP JUST
[1:02:35] NOT BEING ABLE TO GET THAT
[1:02:36] TOGETHER.
[1:02:36] THAT WAS A BIG UM, PUSH BY
[1:02:40] COUNCILOR THE FORMER
[1:02:40] COUNCILOR FROM JUST
[1:02:42] COUNCILOR BOK.
[1:02:42] UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL LIKE
[1:02:45] LIVING IN REALITY.
[1:02:47] I GUESS MY BROADEST QUESTION IS
[1:02:49] IF UM IF IT'S NOT A COVERAGE
[1:02:52] PROBLEM AND IT IS A DENSITY
[1:02:53] PROBLEM AND WE'RE ALSO AVOIDING
[1:02:55] SORT OF THESE BIGGER UNIT
[1:02:56] BUILDINGS, HOW DO WE BUILD IN
[1:02:58] THAT DENSITY?
[1:02:59] UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE
[1:03:01] DENSEST PARTS OF BOSTON ARE
[1:03:02] BASICALLY THE ONES THAT.
[1:03:03] ARE.
[1:03:03] EXCLUDED FROM THIS PROGRAM.
[1:03:05] LOOK AT THAT POINT I THINK AND
[1:03:08] BOTH MY FELLOW PANELISTS
[1:03:09] THOUGHT MORE ABOUT THIS.
[1:03:10] I THINK THESE TWO PRINCIPAL
[1:03:11] COST DRIVERS ARE TWO WAYS WHICH
[1:03:12] WE LOOK AT THE COST ONE OF THE
[1:03:14] DENSITY AROUND COLLECTION AND
[1:03:14] THE OTHER IS OR THE CAPACITY
[1:03:16] AROUND DISPOSAL.
[1:03:17] UM, THE MORE THAT WE.
[1:03:18] CAN GROW ENROLLEES THE MORE
[1:03:21] EFFICIENT WE ARE AT THE COST
[1:03:22] PER COLLECTION.
[1:03:23] UH, TO EXACTLY YOUR POINT, THIS
[1:03:25] DOES GIVE US THE PATH TO SORT
[1:03:27] OF EXPAND ENROLLMENT EVEN
[1:03:28] THOUGH IT REDUCES THE FREQUENCY
[1:03:29] OF COLLECTION.
[1:03:30] SO IT IS A PATH TO BE ABLE TO
[1:03:31] SORT OF MORE IN LINE TO ACHIEVE
[1:03:33] SWAT'S POINT.
[1:03:34] OF ALIGNING WITH WHAT WE'RE
[1:03:35] SEEING IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES
[1:03:36] FOR FREQUENCY OF COLLECTION
[1:03:37] HOPEFULLY THAT GROWS THE
[1:03:38] NUMBERS LOWERS THE COST PER
[1:03:40] COLLECTION UH, GOING FORWARD.
[1:03:42] THE SECOND THING REALLY IS THE
[1:03:43] COST FOR DISPOSAL AND THAT IS
[1:03:45] WHERE THAT IS ABOUT SOME
[1:03:46] OF THIS REGIONAL COLLABORATION.
[1:03:48] UM, WHICH AND TO YOUR POINT
[1:03:50] AROUND COUNCILOR BOX OF THE
[1:03:51] STUDY THAT SHE WAS LOOKING FOR
[1:03:52] THAT IS STILL AN IMPORTANT PATH
[1:03:54] FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LOWER THE
[1:03:55] COST PER TON, UH.
[1:03:56] FOR WHEN WE'RE AT CAPACITY AT
[1:03:57] THOSE SITES THAT WE ARE
[1:03:59] UTILIZING.
[1:04:00] SO IT'S WHILE WE WANT MORE
[1:04:02] RESIDENTS TO BE AVAILABLE, WE
[1:04:04] WANT MORE RESIDENTS TO ACTUALLY
[1:04:05] USE THIS PROGRAM AND WE WANT
[1:04:07] YOU KNOW, AND HONESTLY IT'S A
[1:04:08] LITTLE BIT.
[1:04:09] LIKE IT FEELS LIKE A LITTLE
[1:04:10] FEEL GOOD TO LET EVERYONE
[1:04:12] COMPOST THEIR STUFF.
[1:04:13] BUT WHEN THE ACTUAL FACILITIES
[1:04:15] ARE AT CAPACITY IT'S LIKE HOW
[1:04:17] MUCH GOOD ARE WE DOING BY
[1:04:19] ALLOWING MORE PEOPLE TO ACCESS
[1:04:21] A PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE
[1:04:22] CAPACITY TO ACTUALLY USE THE
[1:04:24] WASTE THAT IS BEING CREATED.
[1:04:27] SO UM IT'S A GREAT.
[1:04:28] QUESTION WHICH IS WHY IT'S A
[1:04:29] GOOD OPENING TO SORT.
[1:04:30] OF.
[1:04:31] TALK ABOUT WHERE THIS GOES UH,
[1:04:32] IN.
[1:04:32] IN PARTICULAR FOR UM LARGE
[1:04:34] MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS AND TO
[1:04:36] COUNCILOR MURPHY'S QUESTION.
[1:04:38] ON HOUSING, UH, WE RAN A VERY
[1:04:40] SUCCESSFUL.
[1:04:40] PILOT A NUMBER OF.
[1:04:42] YEARS.
[1:04:42] AGO ON ADDING INCINERATORS.
[1:04:43] AND DOUBLE HOUSING TO GET
[1:04:45] FOOD OUT OF THAT WASTE STREAM.
[1:04:46] UM, THE 85% OF.
[1:04:48] THE.
[1:04:49] FOOD WASTE.
[1:04:49] THAT'S.
[1:04:49] COLLECTED CURBSIDE.
[1:04:50] GOES TO.
[1:04:51] THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME
[1:04:52] END OF USE AS.
[1:04:53] IF IT WAS JUST GROUND UP AND
[1:04:54] SENT.
[1:04:54] TO.
[1:04:54] DEER ISLAND IN OUR WASTE
[1:04:55] STREAM.
[1:04:56] SO ONE OF THE.
[1:04:57] NEARER TERM SOLUTIONS WHILE WE
[1:04:58] WORK OUT SORT OF.
[1:04:59] SECTOR CAPACITY IS IF.
[1:05:00] YOU HAVE.
[1:05:01] AN INCINERATOR LIKE.
[1:05:01] GRIND UP.
[1:05:02] YOUR FOOD WASTE.
[1:05:03] YOU KNOW THAT THAT IS THE SAME
[1:05:05] THING AS.
[1:05:05] PUTTING.
[1:05:06] IT OUT ON.
[1:05:06] CURBSIDE WASTE.
[1:05:07] UM AND THAT'S AN EASIER
[1:05:08] SOLUTION.
[1:05:08] AND MULTI-FAMILY BUILDINGS
[1:05:10] UH.
[1:05:10] YOU KNOW IF THEY HAVE THAT
[1:05:11] TO SORT OF STRESS THAT THOSE
[1:05:13] ACTUALLY CAN HANDLE THAT FOOD
[1:05:14] WASTE IT'S ACTUALLY KEEPING IT
[1:05:15] YOU KNOW TO USE IN BOSTON.
[1:05:16] AS YOU CAN IMAGINE MY OLD
[1:05:17] BEACON HILL APARTMENT DOESN'T
[1:05:18] HAVE THAT UNIT.
[1:05:19] IT'S NOT AN OPTION FOR
[1:05:20] EVERYTHING.
[1:05:21] DID I WOULD RUIN IT WITH AN
[1:05:22] ARTICHOKE BECAUSE I HAD DONE
[1:05:23] THAT BEFORE.
[1:05:24] YOU GOT TOO CAUGHT.
[1:05:25] UP SMALL YES.
[1:05:26] I KNOW BUT ON OUR CITY
[1:05:27] COMMISSION FOLKS ARE SAYING OH
[1:05:27] I DON'T.
[1:05:28] LIKE IT BUT IT GOES TO THAT
[1:05:29] SAME END USE.
[1:05:30] AND.
[1:05:31] AND THEN THE ENERGY.
[1:05:32] AND THE POWER YOU KNOW, THEN
[1:05:33] OFFSETS THE COST OF.
[1:05:34] THE WASTEWATER.
[1:05:34] THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR NOW.
[1:05:35] GOT IT.
[1:05:36] YEAH.
[1:05:37] AND I THINK
[1:05:37] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD'S POINT
[1:05:38] WAS SO SOLID BECAUSE WE'VE ALL
[1:05:40] READ SORT OF THESE LIKE
[1:05:42] ARTICLES WHERE IT'S LIKE YOU
[1:05:43] KNOW IS MY PLASTIC ENDING UP ON
[1:05:45] A BEACH SOMEWHERE ELSE AND LIKE
[1:05:48] I FEEL GREAT ABOUT IT.
[1:05:49] I FELT GREAT ABOUT THE FACT
[1:05:50] THAT I'VE SEPARATED MY
[1:05:51] PLASTICS.
[1:05:52] I ACTUALLY STARTED MY HIGH
[1:05:53] SCHOOL'S RECYCLING PROGRAM.
[1:05:55] WE CALLED OURSELVES THE
[1:05:56] PLANETEERS.
[1:05:57] WE GOT THE MY SCHOOL ON BOARD
[1:05:59] WITH THIS UH WITH THIS AND UM,
[1:06:02] I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, A LIFELONG
[1:06:04] RECYCLING ADVOCATE OR LIFELONG
[1:06:06] ENVIRONMENTALIST BUT YET WHERE
[1:06:09] IS EVERYTHING GOING?
[1:06:10] AND I THINK IN BOSTON WE HAVE
[1:06:11] REALLY TRIED TO DIVERT OUR
[1:06:12] WASTE STREAMS TOWARDS POSITIVE
[1:06:14] ROUTES.
[1:06:15] I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE, UH,
[1:06:17] PLACE WHERE WE HAVEN'T BEEN
[1:06:18] ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT
[1:06:20] DONE IS ACTUALLY WHEN THEY
[1:06:22] MANDATED MATTRESS RECYCLING
[1:06:24] MORE OF OUR STUFF ENDED UP SORT
[1:06:26] OF UH, YOU KNOW, MORE OF OUR
[1:06:29] MORE OF OUR MATTRESSES ACTUALLY
[1:06:30] ENDED UP IN AN IDEAL WASTE, YOU
[1:06:33] KNOW, SITUATION.
[1:06:35] SO UM, I'M NOT SURE HOW TO
[1:06:37] PHRASE THAT, BUT ESSENTIALLY
[1:06:38] MORE OF OUR MATTRESSES ARE
[1:06:40] ACTUALLY GOING.
[1:06:41] TO BE.
[1:06:42] UH.
[1:06:43] THESE ARE.
[1:06:44] MUCH OF IT IS ON USABLE AND
[1:06:45] ON RECYCLABLE.
[1:06:47] SO UM I SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM.
[1:06:49] I SUPPORT THE CHANGES THAT ARE
[1:06:50] MADE.
[1:06:51] I WANT TO THANK UH, THE CHAIR
[1:06:52] FOR UM HIS LEADERSHIP ON THIS
[1:06:54] AS WELL.
[1:06:55] I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY
[1:06:56] IMPORTANT THAT WHILE WE ARE
[1:06:58] MOVING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW,
[1:07:01] EXPANDING ACCESS HERE, WE'RE
[1:07:02] ALSO THINKING ABOUT THE COST.
[1:07:04] UM, AND WE'RE ALSO THINKING
[1:07:06] ABOUT HOW MUCH GOOD IS ACTUALLY
[1:07:08] BEING DONE AND YOU KNOW, HOW
[1:07:09] HOW WE'RE ACTUALLY UM I THINK
[1:07:12] AS A CITY WE ARE TRYING TO DO
[1:07:14] EVERYTHING RIGHT AND UM OUR
[1:07:16] RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR MORE
[1:07:18] TOOLS TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
[1:07:20] UM, BUT THE QUESTION IS HOW
[1:07:21] EFFECTIVE THAT IS AND HOW UM
[1:07:23] AND I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS
[1:07:25] DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB AND I
[1:07:26] JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT TERRY
[1:07:27] GORMAN, DENNIS ROACH AND DANNY
[1:07:29] NI WHO I WORK WITH EVERY SINGLE
[1:07:30] DAY UM, WHO SHARE UH VERY
[1:07:33] BLATANTLY THE REALITIES OF OF
[1:07:35] THE DECISION MAKING.
[1:07:37] IT'S VERY EASY TO SAY LET'S BE
[1:07:39] GREEN, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S DO
[1:07:41] ALL THESE THINGS THE CORRECT
[1:07:42] WAY.
[1:07:43] UM BUT WE HAVE TO ASK WHERE
[1:07:44] WHERE ARE THESE WASTE ROOMS
[1:07:45] GOING?
[1:07:45] YOU KNOW HOW MUCH CO2 IS BEING
[1:07:47] TAKEN OUT AND UM HOW ARE WE UM
[1:07:50] HOW ARE WE DOING THAT?
[1:07:51] SO IT'S YOU KNOW, A SPICE
[1:07:52] OF REALITY IS ALWAYS NEEDED AND
[1:07:54] I WANT TO THANK THOSE THOSE
[1:07:56] THREE FOR ALWAYS GIVING US THE
[1:07:58] REAL TALK OF HOW WHAT THINGS
[1:07:59] ARE HAPPENING AND HOW OUR
[1:08:01] CONTRACTS IMPACT THE BROADER
[1:08:03] ENVIRONMENT.
[1:08:03] SO THANK YOU.
[1:08:05] THANK YOU COUNCILOR DURKAN.
[1:08:06] I'LL ALSO TAKE SIX MINUTES AS
[1:08:10] WELL.
[1:08:11] THANK YOU TO THE ADMINISTRATION
[1:08:13] PANEL FOR THE IMPORTANT WORK
[1:08:15] THAT YOU WERE DOING.
[1:08:17] THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT I HAVE
[1:08:18] WORKED ON SINCE I STARTED AND
[1:08:21] HAS LONG SUPPORTED THE THIS
[1:08:23] PLAN IN EXPANDING IT AS WELL.
[1:08:26] CHRIS, LET ME JUST ASK UM, AS
[1:08:30] YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE
[1:08:31] NEIGHBORHOODS I REPRESENT AND
[1:08:32] I'M AND I SPEND A LOT OF TIME
[1:08:35] IN CHINATOWN TELL
[1:08:37] ME SPECIFICALLY HOW YOU'RE
[1:08:38] DOING IN CHINATOWN ON COMPOST
[1:08:42] AND WHAT THE PROGRESS IS AND OR
[1:08:45] THE AND OR THE LEATHER DISTRICT
[1:08:47] AS WELL.
[1:08:49] SO YOU MAY HAVE THE SPECIFIC.
[1:08:51] STATS IF NOT UM WE MAY NEED TO
[1:08:52] GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT.
[1:08:53] I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS VERY
[1:08:54] SIMILAR TO COUNCILOR DURKIN'S
[1:08:56] COMMENT IS BECAUSE OUR CURBSIDE
[1:08:57] PROGRAM IS REALLY FOR BUILDINGS
[1:08:58] THAT HAVE 60.
[1:08:59] UNITS OR.
[1:09:00] FEWER AND THERE ARE A NUMBER
[1:09:01] OF BUILDINGS IN BOTH THOSE
[1:09:01] NUMBERS THAT MAY HAVE THAT MAY
[1:09:03] BE ABOVE THAT THERE IS THEY'RE
[1:09:06] COMPOSTING MAYBE MORE BUILDING
[1:09:07] SPECIFIC THAN THAT THROUGH OUR
[1:09:08] OUR CURBSIDE PROGRAM AGAIN AN
[1:09:09] OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO WORK WITH
[1:09:11] YOU AND COUNCILOR DURKAN AND
[1:09:12] OTHERS TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
[1:09:13] CHANGES WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO
[1:09:14] MAKE GOING FORWARD TO.
[1:09:15] SUPPORT THOSE BUSINESSES.
[1:09:16] YOU MAY HAVE THE ENROLLMENT
[1:09:17] NUMBERS FOR FOR.
[1:09:19] CHINATOWN DISTRICT.
[1:09:21] UM CURBSIDE WE DON'T HAVE TOO
[1:09:23] MANY IN CHINATOWN BUT I CAN GET
[1:09:25] BACK TO WE DO HAVE A PROJECT
[1:09:27] OSCAR IN CHINATOWN.
[1:09:28] WE'VE BEEN SPEAKING WITH THE
[1:09:29] WELLNESS LIAISON THERE, UH, TO
[1:09:31] BRING TO THEIR ATTENTION THAT
[1:09:32] THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE
[1:09:33] RESIDENTS CAN USE CREATING
[1:09:35] LANGUAGE ACTRESSES GIVING OUT
[1:09:37] FLIERS, UH, BUT LOCAL
[1:09:39] INFORMATION, UM, TO THE
[1:09:40] RESIDENTS IN CHINATOWN.
[1:09:42] SO SO WE DON'T HAVE MANY
[1:09:44] PARTICIPANTS, UM, IN CHINATOWN.
[1:09:47] IS THIS SOMETHING WE ARE ABLE
[1:09:48] TO WORK ON?
[1:09:50] UM, EXPAND MY AN ISSUE THAT
[1:09:53] I'VE FOCUSED ON AND WORKED WITH
[1:09:56] CHRIS FOR YEARS ON IS PEST
[1:09:58] CONTROL AND IT'S IT'S A MAJOR
[1:10:01] PROBLEM IN MY IN MY DISTRICT
[1:10:03] BUT SPECIFICALLY IN CHINATOWN
[1:10:05] IT'S PROBABLY THE DENSEST
[1:10:07] COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE
[1:10:08] CITY AND IT PROBABLY HAS THE
[1:10:10] MOST RESTAURANTS AS WELL OF ANY
[1:10:14] NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY AS IT
[1:10:15] RELATES TO THE POPULATION.
[1:10:18] UM, SO FACTORING THOSE UH HOW
[1:10:21] DO WE EXPAND THE PROGRAM WITH
[1:10:24] THE WITH A KEEN FOCUS ON PEST
[1:10:27] CONTROL CHALLENGES?
[1:10:29] I THINK WE'RE VERY WILLING TO
[1:10:31] WORK WITH UH WITH.
[1:10:32] YOU AND UH, AND.
[1:10:33] ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS CHINATOWN
[1:10:34] AROUND UH PROMOTION NOW THAT
[1:10:36] THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVE THE
[1:10:38] OPPORTUNITY ESSENTIALLY COME
[1:10:39] OCTOBER TO BE ABLE TO RE EXPAND
[1:10:40] THE CURBSIDE.
[1:10:41] PROGRAM FOR ANY HOUSING UNITS
[1:10:43] THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.
[1:10:43] TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT LOOKS.
[1:10:44] LIKE AND THEN.
[1:10:45] POTENTIALLY WORK PROPERTY BY
[1:10:46] PROPERTY.
[1:10:47] UM, THERE MAY BE A DIFFERENT
[1:10:49] SET OF CONVERSATIONS FOR.
[1:10:50] THE COMMERCIAL OR UH
[1:10:52] INSTITUTIONAL.
[1:10:53] UH FACILITIES IN CHINATOWN IN
[1:10:54] THE OTHER DISTRICT.
[1:10:55] UM, SO HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU ON
[1:10:57] ON WHAT THAT COULD.
[1:10:57] LOOK LIKE.
[1:10:58] OKAY.
[1:10:58] WHAT WOULD IT BE.
[1:11:00] IF IF YOU LIVED IN A LARGE
[1:11:02] BUILDING IN CHINATOWN AND A LOT
[1:11:04] OF RESIDENTS ARE LIVING IN
[1:11:05] THESE SMALL APARTMENTS.
[1:11:10] WOULD IT BE UM EACH PERSON
[1:11:12] WOULD HAVE THEIR OWN BIN THAT
[1:11:15] THEY WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR
[1:11:17] BRINGING IT DOWN OR WOULD IT BE
[1:11:18] SOMETHING MORE KIND
[1:11:20] OF COMMUNITY EFFORT WHERE
[1:11:22] PEOPLE COORDINATE TOGETHER IN A
[1:11:25] PARTICULAR BUILDING?
[1:11:28] SO THE.
[1:11:29] THE CURRENT PROGRAM IS REALLY
[1:11:31] SCALED TO UH BUILDINGS THAT ARE
[1:11:33] SIX UNITS.
[1:11:34] OR FEWER AND.
[1:11:35] CONSEQUENTLY IT'S WE SHOULD DO
[1:11:36] SOME.
[1:11:37] WORK AND HAPPY TO WORK WITH.
[1:11:38] YOU ON THIS OKAY.
[1:11:39] WORKING WITH.
[1:11:40] BUILDING MANAGEMENT COMPANIES
[1:11:41] AROUND.
[1:11:41] WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE IN
[1:11:42] SOME OF THE LARGER BUILDINGS
[1:11:43] THAT ARE ABOVE SIX UNITS UH, IN
[1:11:45] SIZE.
[1:11:45] BUT IN TERMS OF.
[1:11:47] UM AVAILABILITY FOR PROJECT
[1:11:48] OSCAR.
[1:11:48] OH, I MEAN.
[1:11:49] THEY COULD ORGANIZE TO DO
[1:11:51] PROJECT OSCAR DROP.
[1:11:52] OFFS BY BUILDING.
[1:11:53] I MEAN THEY'RE EVERYBODY'S.
[1:11:55] ELIGIBLE RESIDENTIAL WAS
[1:11:56] ELIGIBLE.
[1:11:56] FOR PROJECT.
[1:11:57] OSCAR OKAY.
[1:11:58] SO WE COULD.
[1:11:59] CERTAINLY LOOK INTO WHAT
[1:12:00] WHAT'S THE BIN CAPACITY IN
[1:12:01] CHINATOWN.
[1:12:02] AND PROJECT.
[1:12:02] OSCAR.
[1:12:03] DO YOU WANT.
[1:12:03] TO ADD A BEAN AND MARKET THAT
[1:12:04] SPECIFICALLY TO SAY ARE.
[1:12:06] THERE CONSTITUENTS AND
[1:12:07] RESIDENTS THAT WANT TO USE
[1:12:08] THAT.
[1:12:09] COULD COULD WE.
[1:12:10] UM, TRY TO DO A A MEETING WITH
[1:12:15] THE RIGHT COMMUNITY PARTNERS,
[1:12:17] COMMUNITY LEADERS?
[1:12:18] THERE'S SEVERAL THAT UH,
[1:12:20] SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON UH,
[1:12:22] PEST CONTROL THAT ARE FOCUSED
[1:12:24] ON CLEANER STREETS.
[1:12:25] BUT COULD WE KIND OF DO A ZOOM
[1:12:27] MEETING, UM, AND KIND OF LISTEN
[1:12:30] TO THE RESIDENTS LISTEN TO YOU
[1:12:32] AND SEE HOW WE CAN GO FORWARD
[1:12:36] ON UM, SOME RECOMMENDATIONS
[1:12:38] BEFORE THIS IS IMPLEMENTED IN
[1:12:40] OCTOBER.
[1:12:41] SO MAYBE MAYBE A ZOOM OVER THE
[1:12:43] NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
[1:12:44] IS THAT OKAY?
[1:12:45] SURE.
[1:12:46] ABSOLUTELY.
[1:12:46] I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.
[1:12:47] AND TO COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE
[1:12:49] POINT.
[1:12:49] AND TO.
[1:12:50] CHIEF.
[1:12:50] SWEAT'S POINT WE CAN.
[1:12:51] THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THOSE
[1:12:52] ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES WE CAN
[1:12:53] PROVIDE UM.
[1:12:55] UH WHETHER IT'S PROJECT OSCAR
[1:12:56] OR SORT OF UH, ADVISORY SUPPORT
[1:12:58] FOR BUILDINGS THAT CAN DO THAT.
[1:13:00] OKAY.
[1:13:02] UM.
[1:13:04] MY PRIORITY AS MY PRIORITY AS A
[1:13:07] CITY COUNCIL IS CERTAINLY MY
[1:13:09] ENTIRE DISTRICT BUT MY MY TOP
[1:13:12] PRIORITY IS THE RESIDENTS
[1:13:14] OF CHINATOWN.
[1:13:15] I DO WANT TO PROVIDE THEM WITH
[1:13:16] THE BEST QUALITY OF LIFE, THE
[1:13:17] BEST NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES.
[1:13:19] AND I ALSO THINK THIS IS A
[1:13:21] PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE AS WELL.
[1:13:24] UM, AND MAYBE WE HAVE TO GET
[1:13:28] PEST CONTROL UH, JOHN JONELL
[1:13:30] INVOLVED IN THIS AS WELL.
[1:13:32] UM, THE OTHER CHALLENGE, CHRIS,
[1:13:35] AS YOU KNOW, IS FOR PEOPLE IN
[1:13:37] CHINATOWN.
[1:13:39] IT'S IT'S HARD TO HAVE A BARREL
[1:13:42] IN YOUR IN YOUR HOUSE OR YOUR
[1:13:44] APARTMENT OR YOUR ON YOUR
[1:13:45] LITTLE WALKWAY THERE AND IT IN
[1:13:48] THINGS WE TAKE FOR GRANTED IN
[1:13:50] MY NEIGHBORHOOD OR MY HOUSE IS
[1:13:52] A MAJOR CHALLENGE AND IN OTHER
[1:13:55] PARTS OF MY DISTRICT IS THAT
[1:13:57] SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE A
[1:14:00] RECOMMENDATION OR A PLAN ON?
[1:14:02] SO THAT'S A GREAT THING TO
[1:14:03] RAISE AND I THINK VERY SIMILAR
[1:14:04] TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING THAT.
[1:14:06] YOU AND COUNCILOR FITZGERALD
[1:14:07] AND COUNCILOR CULPEPER AND I
[1:14:09] WERE.
[1:14:09] IN UH.
[1:14:09] THREE NIGHTS AGO.
[1:14:10] UH, YEAH.
[1:14:11] HAPPY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT
[1:14:13] WHAT CONTAINERIZATION MAY LOOK
[1:14:14] LIKE OR SUPPORT IN SOME OF THE
[1:14:16] NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE UH, WE'RE.
[1:14:17] HAVING A LARGE TRASH BARREL IS
[1:14:19] SIMPLY.
[1:14:20] NOT A REAL.
[1:14:21] FEASIBLE, UH, OPTION FOR A
[1:14:22] NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS.
[1:14:23] SO HAPPY TO HAVE THAT
[1:14:24] CONVERSATION.
[1:14:25] I THINK THE CONVERSATION WE
[1:14:26] STARTED A FEW.
[1:14:26] NIGHTS AGO IS A GOOD PATH TO.
[1:14:28] IDENTIFYING SOME NEW SOLUTIONS.
[1:14:29] OKAY THANK YOU CHRIS.
[1:14:33] WE ARE GOING TO I'M GOING TO
[1:14:34] CHECK TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY.
[1:14:37] PUBLIC TESTIMONY OR IF THERE'S
[1:14:39] ANY TESTIMONY.
[1:14:40] FROM ANYONE HERE IN THE IN
[1:14:42] THE CHAMBER.
[1:14:43] IF YOU'D LIKE TO.
[1:14:44] TESTIFY PLEASE COME ON DOWN.
[1:14:45] AND IF YOU DIDN'T SIGN THE
[1:14:47] DOCUMENT, UM, COME ON UP
[1:14:49] ANYWAY, IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY.
[1:14:52] TO HAVE YOUR VOICE HEARD.
[1:14:53] I DON'T THINK ANYONE HERE IN
[1:14:55] THE.
[1:14:56] CHAMBER IS GOING TO TESTIFY,
[1:14:57] BUT.
[1:14:59] OKAY.
[1:15:01] NO ZOOM LINKS.
[1:15:02] UM, IT'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY
[1:15:04] IF YOU DO WANT TO TESTIFY.
[1:15:05] UM, BUT WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC
[1:15:08] TESTIMONY AT THIS POINT.
[1:15:10] UM, I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO MY,
[1:15:12] UH, COLLEAGUES FOR, UM, FURTHER
[1:15:15] ROUND OF QUESTIONING.
[1:15:16] UH, PROBABLY GO TO THREE
[1:15:19] MINUTES AND UH.
[1:15:25] I DO WANT TO ASK ONE OF MY
[1:15:27] COLLEAGUES MAYBE COUNCIL CORTEZ
[1:15:28] ABOUT UM TODAY IS POW MIA DAY
[1:15:33] AND I AM SPEAKING DOWNSTAIRS
[1:15:35] UM, AT THE CITY COUNCIL UM, UH
[1:15:39] ,PLAZA IN A COUPLE MINUTES.
[1:15:41] I MAY HAVE TO LEAVE EARLY IF
[1:15:42] YOU.
[1:15:43] IF YOU'RE ABLE.
[1:15:43] TO FILL IN FOR ME.
[1:15:44] THANK YOU.
[1:15:45] OKAY.
[1:15:45] UM, AT THIS TIME.
[1:15:50] I WANT TO GIVE THREE MINUTES TO
[1:15:52] MY CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.
[1:15:53] I'M GOING TO START WITH
[1:15:55] COUNCILOR CLEDUS COUNCIL CUT A
[1:15:56] SPOT.
[1:15:57] YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
[1:15:57] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[1:15:58] AND THANK YOU FOR, UM FOR
[1:15:59] ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE WHILE
[1:16:01] WE HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT EVENT,
[1:16:02] UH, GOING ON OUTSIDE.
[1:16:03] UM, I JUST WANT TO SHOUT OUT
[1:16:05] THAT MY MY LITTLE ONE MY FOUR
[1:16:06] MONTH OLD IS HERE WALKING IN IS
[1:16:07] IN THE AUDIENCE.
[1:16:08] WE CARE VERY MUCH ABOUT THIS
[1:16:09] THIS ISSUE.
[1:16:09] IT'S JUST A LITTLE REMINDER
[1:16:10] THAT THE DECISIONS WE MAKE
[1:16:12] TODAY WILL IMPACT THE WORLD
[1:16:13] THAT YOU INHERIT.
[1:16:14] SO JUST REALLY GRATEFUL THAT
[1:16:15] YOU COULD BE HERE.
[1:16:16] UM, MY UH MY QUESTIONS ARE MORE
[1:16:19] CENTERED AROUND THE STATE.
[1:16:20] UM, THERE WAS A UM A COMMENT
[1:16:23] THAT WAS MADE BY YOU CHIEF AND
[1:16:24] TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU CAN TALK
[1:16:25] ABOUT IT BUT UM, WHAT HAVE YOU
[1:16:27] HEARD FROM THE STATE ABOUT THE
[1:16:28] RULES THAT THEY'RE GOING TO
[1:16:29] PROMULGATE IN 2028?
[1:16:31] UM, AND HOW ARE WE PREPARING
[1:16:33] FOR COMPLIANCE?
[1:16:34] HOW ARE WE ALREADY THERE AND
[1:16:36] THEN HOW ARE WE UH, PLANNING
[1:16:39] FOR UM UH OR JUST ENSURING THAT
[1:16:43] EDIBLE FOOD IS RECOVERED FIRST?
[1:16:45] SO TYING IN THAT FOOD
[1:16:46] RECOVERY ASPECT OF IT AS YOU
[1:16:48] KNOW, I FILED A FOOD
[1:16:49] RECOVERY ORDINANCE THAT COMPELS
[1:16:50] BIG BOX RETAILERS AND THEN SOON
[1:16:52] AFTER THAT SMALL BUSINESSES TO
[1:16:54] UH, PARTICIPATE IN IN A PROGRAM
[1:16:56] LIKE THIS.
[1:16:57] UM, HOW ARE YOU UH, CONSIDERING
[1:16:59] THAT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE
[1:17:01] RULES THAT ARE COMING DOWN FROM
[1:17:02] THE STATE IN 2028 AND THEN ALSO
[1:17:03] WHAT GAPS IN INFRASTRUCTURE OR
[1:17:05] RESOURCES DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS
[1:17:07] UM, NOW IN ORDER TO BE READY
[1:17:09] FOR 2028?
[1:17:10] GREAT.
[1:17:11] UM SO I'LL TALK ABOUT SOME
[1:17:13] OF THAT AND THEN YOU CAN TALK
[1:17:14] ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
[1:17:15] UM, SO I THINK SO BROADLY.
[1:17:17] YOU KNOW THE STATE IS AWARE
[1:17:19] THAT THERE IS A UH.
[1:17:20] BECAUSE WE'RE NOT THE ONLY.
[1:17:21] COMMUNITY IN.
[1:17:22] MASSACHUSETTS DOING CURBSIDE
[1:17:24] UM.
[1:17:24] FOOD WASTE COLLECTION WITH A
[1:17:26] VERY.
[1:17:26] SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF IT
[1:17:27] ENDING.
[1:17:28] UP IN ANAEROBIC DIGESTION.
[1:17:29] SO THE.
[1:17:30] STATE IS VERY AWARE THAT
[1:17:31] THERE IS THIS.
[1:17:31] DISCONNECT BETWEEN SUPPLY AND
[1:17:33] DEMAND IN.
[1:17:33] THE FOOD WASTE COLLECTION.
[1:17:35] UM, YOU KNOW, INDUSTRY.
[1:17:37] UH.
[1:17:37] IN.
[1:17:37] THE SENSE.
[1:17:38] THAT.
[1:17:38] YOU KNOW, WE WOULD ALL LIKE
[1:17:39] MORE OF THAT TO GO TO.
[1:17:40] COMPOSTING AND THEN BACK ON
[1:17:41] COMMUNITY GARDENS.
[1:17:42] AND PEOPLE'S AGRICULTURE.
[1:17:44] UM AND THAT THE SUPPLY OF THAT
[1:17:46] IS AN INDUSTRY SECTOR IS NOT
[1:17:47] READY TO MEET THAT DEMAND.
[1:17:49] UM.
[1:17:50] SO I HAVE NOT HAD UM
[1:17:52] SPECIFIC CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
[1:17:53] THEIR.
[1:17:54] TIMELINE AND INTEND TO MOVE
[1:17:55] FORWARD WITH THOSE POLICIES.
[1:17:56] UH.
[1:17:57] BUT THEY ARE AWARE OF YOU
[1:17:58] KNOW, IF YOU CREATE A MANDATE
[1:18:00] YES, YOU'RE CREATING.
[1:18:01] A MARKET.
[1:18:01] BUT YOU NEED TO GIVE ENOUGH
[1:18:02] TIME FOR THAT MARKET TO.
[1:18:03] THEN REACT AND AND MATERIALIZE
[1:18:05] .
[1:18:05] YOU KNOW, IN THE.
[1:18:06] LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO.
[1:18:07] IS SORT OF.
[1:18:08] UM, CLOSE DOWN UH, IS CREATE
[1:18:10] SOMETHING THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE
[1:18:11] TO.
[1:18:11] DELIVER RIGHT FROM AN ECONOMIC
[1:18:13] SECTOR.
[1:18:13] AND I.
[1:18:13] COUNCILOR DURKAN RAISED THIS AS
[1:18:14] WELL LIKE.
[1:18:15] WE HAVE THAT THAT'S THE
[1:18:16] CHALLENGE LIKE WE WHEN WE WENT
[1:18:18] OUT TO RFP UM, A NUMBER
[1:18:20] OF YEARS AGO ON.
[1:18:21] OUR CURBSIDE.
[1:18:23] COLLECTION, YOU.
[1:18:24] KNOW, WE.
[1:18:24] WERE OPTIMISTIC THAT THERE WERE
[1:18:26] GOING TO BE FACILITIES.
[1:18:27] COMPOST FACILITIES.
[1:18:28] THAT WERE GOING TO RESPOND.
[1:18:29] ON THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE
[1:18:30] CAPACITY TO EAT, YOU KNOW, EVEN
[1:18:31] HANDLE.
[1:18:32] 10% OF BOSTON'S.
[1:18:33] FOOD WASTE.
[1:18:34] SO THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT.
[1:18:35] CHALLENGE HERE, UM.
[1:18:36] IN.
[1:18:37] THE.
[1:18:37] COMPOSTING SECTOR OF.
[1:18:37] SORT OF BUILDING UP THAT
[1:18:38] CAPACITY.
[1:18:39] UM, SO.
[1:18:40] YOU KNOW.
[1:18:41] I HAVE FULL FAITH THAT THE
[1:18:42] STATE'S NOT GOING TO SORT OF,
[1:18:43] YOU KNOW, MOVE FORWARD WITH A
[1:18:44] MANDATE THAT ISN'T.
[1:18:45] DELIVERABLE.
[1:18:45] YOU KNOW, FROM THE WASTE
[1:18:46] SECTOR PERSPECTIVE.
[1:18:48] UM.
[1:18:49] ON THE YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE
[1:18:51] GETTING ON THE FOOD RECOVERY?
[1:18:52] AND I TOTALLY APPRECIATE THAT
[1:18:53] QUESTION.
[1:18:53] WE STILL HAVE A TON OF.
[1:18:55] UM.
[1:18:56] PERFECTLY UH.
[1:18:56] NUTRITIOUS.
[1:18:57] UH, HEALTHY, UH, SAFE FOOD
[1:18:59] COMING INTO BOSTON THAT UM.
[1:19:01] BUT FOR AN INABILITY TO GET IT
[1:19:03] TO PEOPLE WHO NEED IT IS GOING
[1:19:04] INTO THE WASTE.
[1:19:05] STREAM AND SO WE.
[1:19:06] ARE SO YOU KNOW, UM.
[1:19:07] I THINK YOU'VE BEEN AT THE NEW
[1:19:08] MICRO FACILITY A NUMBER OF.
[1:19:09] TIMES, UH.
[1:19:11] WITH ME UH, IT'S BEEN
[1:19:12] PHENOMENALLY SUCCESSFUL AS A
[1:19:13] PROOF OF CONCEPT.
[1:19:14] UH, I WOULD LIKE.
[1:19:16] TO EXPLORE MORE OF.
[1:19:17] THAT AND DEALING WITH MORE
[1:19:18] LARGE SCALE, UM, YOU KNOW,
[1:19:20] PROVIDERS OF FOOD WHETHER OR
[1:19:21] NOT THEY'RE HOTELS.
[1:19:22] UM.
[1:19:23] HAVE WE'VE TALKED TO.
[1:19:23] SOME OF THE AIRLINES THERE'S A
[1:19:24] LOT OF.
[1:19:25] FOOD GOING THROUGH.
[1:19:26] EAST BOSTON.
[1:19:26] UM, THAT MAY NOT BE GETTING ON
[1:19:28] AIRPLANES.
[1:19:28] AND WHERE IS THAT GOING?
[1:19:29] YOU KNOW, BEFORE.
[1:19:30] UH THE END OF ITS USE OF LIFE
[1:19:31] UH, OBVIOUSLY OUR CONVENTION
[1:19:33] CENTERS.
[1:19:33] YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE MAKE.
[1:19:34] SURE THAT, UM, PERFECTLY GOOD,
[1:19:36] NUTRITIOUS, CULTURALLY
[1:19:37] APPROPRIATE FOOD IS GETTING
[1:19:38] INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS BEFORE.
[1:19:39] IT'S SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, SENT
[1:19:40] INTO THE WASTE STREAM?
[1:19:40] SO I.
[1:19:41] THINK THERE'S A LOT MORE
[1:19:42] WORK WITH ME THERE.
[1:19:42] AND I WOULD JUST ADD COLLEGES.
[1:19:44] YES.
[1:19:45] COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES
[1:19:45] KITCHENS.
[1:19:46] YEAH EXACTLY.
[1:19:46] YEP.
[1:19:47] YEAH ALL.
[1:19:47] OF OUR INSTITUTIONS.
[1:19:48] GREAT.
[1:19:49] THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN
[1:19:50] THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND UH,
[1:19:51] ALL OF YOUR WORK I APPRECIATE
[1:19:52] THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK A SECOND
[1:19:53] ROUND CHAIR.
[1:19:54] THANK YOU.
[1:19:56] COUNCIL UM COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE
[1:19:58] YOU.
[1:19:58] HAVE THE FLOOR.
[1:20:00] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[1:20:01] I THINK MY COLLEAGUES ASKED,
[1:20:02] UM.
[1:20:02] TWO OF MY.
[1:20:03] REMAINING QUESTIONS.
[1:20:04] I REALLY JUST HAVE ONE.
[1:20:06] I BELIEVE.
[1:20:06] AND IT'S ABOUT SORT OF HOW
[1:20:08] WE'RE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP
[1:20:09] WITH LIKE THERE ARE THERE ARE
[1:20:11] SMALLER ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO
[1:20:13] COMPOSTING.
[1:20:13] THERE ARE SMALLER LIKE
[1:20:14] COMMUNITY BASED ORGANIZATIONS
[1:20:16] OR HEALTH INITIATIVES.
[1:20:18] UM, SO HOW ARE WE LIKE ALSO
[1:20:19] THINKING ABOUT WORKING WITH
[1:20:20] THEM?
[1:20:21] DO WE WORK WITH THEM WHEN WE'RE
[1:20:22] THINKING ABOUT EXPANSION OR
[1:20:23] WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE?
[1:20:25] I MEAN THINKING ABOUT
[1:20:26] COUNCILOR COLLETTA ZAPATA'S
[1:20:27] NEIGHBORHOOD OF EAST BOSTON
[1:20:28] THEY'RE SO FORWARD THINKING
[1:20:29] WHEN IT COMES TO UH, COMPOSTING
[1:20:33] AND GREENING OUR ENVIRONMENT.
[1:20:35] SO JUST JUST UM AND I THOUGHT
[1:20:37] VIKING WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO
[1:20:38] TESTIFY ABOUT THAT.
[1:20:39] HE'S STILL HOLDING OUT BUT, UM,
[1:20:41] UH, LIKE HOW.
[1:20:43] HOW ARE WE WORKING IN
[1:20:44] PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM?
[1:20:44] WHAT ARE WE LEARNING FROM THEM?
[1:20:46] LIKE WHAT DOES YEAH.
[1:20:48] THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND
[1:20:49] I'LL.
[1:20:50] JUST I'LL.
[1:20:50] TABLE SAID A BIT ABOUT TIGER
[1:20:51] CRUSHER.
[1:20:53] SO ONE OF THE ONE OF THE THINGS
[1:20:54] WE WANT TO.
[1:20:54] EXPLORE AND WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED
[1:20:55] LIKE THIS IS AN INTERIM
[1:20:56] SOLUTION FOR NOW BUT WE'RE YOU
[1:20:57] KNOW WE STILL WANT TO ITERATE.
[1:20:58] THEY'RE SCALING UP AND THEN
[1:20:59] THERE'S.
[1:20:59] DOWNSCALING UM AND CLEARLY
[1:21:02] WE'RE ALREADY TOO BIG FOR THE
[1:21:03] INDUSTRY.
[1:21:03] IN MASSACHUSETTS FROM.
[1:21:04] A COMPOST PERSPECTIVE.
[1:21:05] BUT CAN.
[1:21:06] WE PROVIDE A CENTRALIZED.
[1:21:08] WASTE PICKUP SERVICE THAT THEN
[1:21:09] GOES TO MULTIPLE END USERS?
[1:21:11] SO COULD YOU KNOW FOOD.
[1:21:12] WASTE IN THESE SPOTS AND.
[1:21:13] GO TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION UM,
[1:21:15] THAN FOOD WASTE UH, IN JP
[1:21:17] BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THERE IS A
[1:21:19] COMPOST FACILITY THAT'S
[1:21:19] AVAILABLE AND HAS THE CAPACITY
[1:21:21] TO ONLY HANDLE A NEIGHBORHOOD
[1:21:22] BUT NOT THE CITY.
[1:21:23] UH, AND WE CAN STILL MAKE THAT
[1:21:25] EASY FOR PEOPLE TO PUT IN THE
[1:21:26] GREEN BIN AND ONCE IT'S PUT IN
[1:21:27] THE GREEN AND PEOPLE DON'T
[1:21:28] REALLY CARE EXACTLY WHICH
[1:21:29] COMPOST FACILITY IS GOING TO.
[1:21:31] SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO
[1:21:32] EXPLORE IN THE.
[1:21:33] COMING MONTHS, UM, IS.
[1:21:34] SAYING IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY
[1:21:35] TO ACTUALLY UH, UTILIZE.
[1:21:37] MORE COMPOST FACILITIES AT A
[1:21:39] SMALLER SCALE TO SORT
[1:21:40] OF PACKAGE THIS UP.
[1:21:41] AND JUST TO REINFORCE THAT
[1:21:43] POINT THAT ACTUALLY SORT OF IS
[1:21:44] SIMILAR TO HOW WE ACTUALLY
[1:21:45] HANDLE.
[1:21:46] UM, TRASH AND.
[1:21:47] RECYCLING TODAY WHERE
[1:21:48] COLLECTIONS IS ONE SET
[1:21:49] OF CONTRACT AND.
[1:21:50] MANAGEMENT OF THE MATERIALS IS
[1:21:51] A SECOND AND.
[1:21:52] IT COULD BE.
[1:21:53] A WAY BY SPLITTING THOSE
[1:21:54] TWO.
[1:21:54] THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY CONNECT.
[1:21:56] WITH CONTRACT WITH A
[1:21:57] VARIETY.
[1:21:58] A WIDER.
[1:21:58] VARIETY OF UM.
[1:22:00] ORGANIZATIONS AROUND COMPOST TO
[1:22:02] YOUR POINT IS ALSO.
[1:22:03] SOME PROBABLY LESSONS
[1:22:03] LEARNED.
[1:22:04] THAT WE CAN THINK FROM UH.
[1:22:05] THE MANY.
[1:22:06] ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE
[1:22:06] ALREADY DOING.
[1:22:07] PERHAPS ONSITE FOOD WASTE
[1:22:08] COMPOSTING.
[1:22:09] THAT COULD.
[1:22:10] BE HELPFUL TO US AS WE THINK
[1:22:11] ABOUT HOW TO.
[1:22:11] SCALE THE PROGRAM FOR THAT.
[1:22:12] THANK YOU.
[1:22:13] ACTUALLY DO HAVE ONE MORE
[1:22:14] QUESTION AND IT'S ABOUT UM, THE
[1:22:17] TRANSITION TO THE LARGER
[1:22:18] GALLONS OF BIWEEKLY PICKUPS.
[1:22:21] SO I DON'T REALLY EXPERIENCE
[1:22:22] THIS BECAUSE AGAIN I FREEZE AND
[1:22:24] SO UM BUT FOR THOSE WHO AREN'T
[1:22:27] FREEZING AND I TAKE IT OUT THE
[1:22:29] FREEZER ON TRASH PICKUP DAY,
[1:22:30] UM, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?
[1:22:33] I MEAN THERE'S A STAIR THERE'S
[1:22:34] SMELL THERE'S UH WHAT ARE THE
[1:22:36] POTENTIAL DOWNSIDES TO THE
[1:22:39] BIWEEKLY PICKUP WHEN IT COMES
[1:22:41] UP SMELL OR RODENT ATTRACTION
[1:22:44] OR THE GROWTH?
[1:22:45] UM, IF PEOPLE ARE PUTTING I
[1:22:46] THINK ABOUT THIS ESPECIALLY IN
[1:22:48] THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN IT'S HOT
[1:22:49] AND WHEN OTHERS ARE I KNOW
[1:22:51] THEY'RE THEY'RE RODENT
[1:22:52] RESISTANT BUT THEY'RE OTHER YOU
[1:22:54] KNOW, UM, NOT GREAT THINGS THAT
[1:22:57] HAPPEN AS A RESULT OF HAVING
[1:22:58] FOOD OUTSIDE FOR LONG PERIODS
[1:23:00] OF TIME.
[1:23:01] UM, THE USUAL.
[1:23:02] ORDERS FRUIT FLIES.
[1:23:05] IF IT'S OUTDOOR LONG MAGGOTS
[1:23:06] STUFF LIKE THAT CAN ACCUMULATE
[1:23:08] AND YOU.
[1:23:09] KNOW.
[1:23:09] THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE MAGGOTS
[1:23:10] I DO WANT TO UM.
[1:23:11] YEAH.
[1:23:11] LEACHATE COULD STAY IN THERE
[1:23:13] WOULD REQUIRE A CLEANING.
[1:23:15] UM, AFTER UH, YOU SO THERE ARE
[1:23:18] THOSE CHALLENGES ASSOCIATED
[1:23:19] WITH OR VERY FULL AND
[1:23:22] PARTICULARLY WHEN IT'S HOT
[1:23:23] OUTSIDE AND I THINK FREEZING
[1:23:25] RIGHT NOW IS THE BEST
[1:23:26] INTERVENTION THAT WE HAVE AND
[1:23:28] KEEPING THOSE OR MAYBE
[1:23:29] SPLITTING IT BETWEEN TWO BINS
[1:23:30] HAVING SOME MORE ON YOUR UM
[1:23:34] COUNTERTOP BIN UM SPLITTING IT
[1:23:36] LIKE THAT.
[1:23:36] YEAH I JUST DON'T WANT THAT BUT
[1:23:38] I DON'T WANT RODENT ACTIVITY
[1:23:39] INCREASING INTO INDOOR FOR
[1:23:40] PEOPLE AND I ALSO DON'T WANT IT
[1:23:42] YOU KNOW MAGGOTS OR THE OTHER
[1:23:44] ISSUES INCREASING OUTDOOR.
[1:23:45] SO I JUST WANT US TO ENSURE
[1:23:47] THAT WE'RE DOING TARGETED
[1:23:48] EDUCATION CAMPAIGNS AND UM,
[1:23:50] AGAIN, I LOOK FORWARD TO
[1:23:51] WORKING WITH YOU ALL IN THAT
[1:23:52] OPINION I THINK THERE'S A LOT
[1:23:53] OF, UM, POTENTIAL HERE TO BUILD
[1:23:56] UPON THE NATURALLY ORGANIC UH,
[1:23:58] PUN THERE BUT RECYCLING AND
[1:24:01] COMPOSTING THAT HAPPENS IN
[1:24:03] THOSE COMMUNITIES.
[1:24:04] SO THANK YOU.
[1:24:06] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MURPHY,
[1:24:09] YOU.
[1:24:09] HAVE THE FLOOR.
[1:24:11] QUESTION IF YOU ARE A
[1:24:13] PARTICIPANT IN YOUR.
[1:24:14] MOVING, ARE.
[1:24:15] YOU ABLE TO MAKE SURE YOU.
[1:24:16] CAN BRING IN OR IF YOU'RE ON A.
[1:24:18] STREET OR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HOW
[1:24:19] DOES THAT WORK IF YOU'RE MOVING
[1:24:23] UM YOU CAN ACCESS THE CUSTOMER
[1:24:25] SERVICE AND TELL THEM THAT YOU
[1:24:26] KNOW WE WON'T BE USING THIS BIN
[1:24:28] ANYMORE AND THEY'RE ABLE TO
[1:24:29] PICK UP AND KNOW WHAT THEY
[1:24:30] DON'T WANT TO GIVE IT UP.
[1:24:32] I'M ASKING CAN THEY CONTINUE TO
[1:24:33] USE IT ON THEIR NEW STREET OR
[1:24:35] IF THEY'RE MOVING TO AN
[1:24:36] UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOOD, DOES
[1:24:37] THAT MEAN THEY HAVE TO STOP
[1:24:39] USING IT?
[1:24:39] UM.
[1:24:40] IF IT'S A GOOD QUESTION, IF
[1:24:42] IT IS OVER SIX.
[1:24:43] UNITS THEN THAT'S SOMETHING
[1:24:45] THAT NEEDS TO SINGLE FAMILY.
[1:24:46] IF IT IS WITHIN THAT THEN UH
[1:24:48] THE KNOW GETTING PROBABLY JUST
[1:24:50] UPDATE UH YOUR ADDRESS.
[1:24:51] YEAH.
[1:24:52] ARE THERE ANY STREETS OR.
[1:24:54] NEIGHBORHOODS THEY DON'T PICK
[1:24:55] UP LIKE WAS ANYONE NOT GIVEN.
[1:24:58] ONE IN.
[1:24:59] THE FIRST.
[1:24:59] ROUND OF THE 10% BECAUSE
[1:25:01] OF CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS?
[1:25:02] SO OR.
[1:25:03] IS.
[1:25:03] EVERY STREET.
[1:25:04] AVAILABLE AND WE LIKE WHAT IS
[1:25:07] THE 10% NUMBER?
[1:25:09] THE 10% IS SORT OF WHAT WE.
[1:25:11] ARE YOU.
[1:25:11] KNOW LIKE WHAT IS THE
[1:25:12] ACTUAL.
[1:25:13] NUMBER LIKE.
[1:25:13] WE'RE $27.20.
[1:25:15] SO IS ARE THE 27,000 THE.
[1:25:18] FIRST.
[1:25:19] 27,000 NO MATTER WHERE THEY
[1:25:20] LIVE JUST GOT PULLED THEIR
[1:25:23] NAMES.
[1:25:23] SO LONG AS THEY WERE IN A
[1:25:24] BUILDING THAT WAS SIX.
[1:25:24] UNITS OR.
[1:25:25] FEWER, RIGHT?
[1:25:25] IF THEY.
[1:25:26] CHECKED OFF.
[1:25:27] ALL THE BOXES TO ACTUALLY BE
[1:25:29] KEPT ON A LIST OKAY.
[1:25:30] YEAH, YEAH.
[1:25:30] SO THERE'S NO REASON TO
[1:25:31] THINK THAT IF.
[1:25:32] YOU MOVED.
[1:25:33] IN YOU'RE.
[1:25:33] STILL IN A SINGLE FAMILY THAT
[1:25:34] YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO IT JUST
[1:25:37] THINKING BECAUSE I DON'T SEE
[1:25:38] ANY GREEN BINS OUT IN MY.
[1:25:40] YEAH.
[1:25:41] THERE WEREN'T ANY
[1:25:42] GEOGRAPHIC.
[1:25:42] RESTRICTIONS WHEN THIS PROGRAM.
[1:25:43] ROLLED OUT.
[1:25:44] IT WAS JUST THE SIZE.
[1:25:45] OF.
[1:25:45] THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE IN AND
[1:25:46] HONESTLY LIKE UM.
[1:25:48] AND THAT WAS A.
[1:25:49] POLICY DECISION TO BE EQUITABLE
[1:25:50] AND SAY EVERYBODY'S ELIGIBLE
[1:25:52] AND THEN EVENTUALLY SORT OF WAS
[1:25:53] CAPPED OUT.
[1:25:53] SO THE GEOGRAPHIC DISTRIBUTION
[1:25:55] THAT YOU SEE NOW IS BASED ON
[1:25:56] PEOPLE'S INITIAL RESPONSES.
[1:25:58] UNTIL THE SCALE OF THE PROGRAM
[1:25:59] HIT THE CAP THAT THE CONTRACT
[1:26:01] COULD ABSORB.
[1:26:01] THAT IS ALSO.
[1:26:03] LIKE ONE OF THE REASONS THAT
[1:26:04] THIS.
[1:26:04] PROGRAM FROM LIKE A
[1:26:05] TRANSPORTATION PERSPECTIVE IS
[1:26:07] INEFFICIENT BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE
[1:26:08] A TRUCK GOING DOWN THE STREET
[1:26:09] AND PICKING.
[1:26:10] UP.
[1:26:10] 1 IN 1 NEIGHBORHOOD AND LIKE
[1:26:11] THE TRUCK IS SPENDING.
[1:26:12] AN HOUR, YOU KNOW.
[1:26:13] IN TRAFFIC TO GO PICK.
[1:26:14] UP THAT.
[1:26:14] ONE CITY TO ANOTHER.
[1:26:15] YEAH, YOU MIGHT ONLY.
[1:26:16] SO I THINK.
[1:26:17] THAT'S ONE OF.
[1:26:18] THE CHALLENGES.
[1:26:19] YEAH IT'S TOUGH BUT AT THE SAME
[1:26:20] TIME YOU DON'T WANT TO
[1:26:22] DISCOURAGE THE ONE NEIGHBOR IN.
[1:26:24] THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
[1:26:25] RIGHT OKAY OKAY YEAH THANK.
[1:26:28] YOU THANK YOU CHAIRMAN.
[1:26:31] THANK THANK YOU,
[1:26:32] COUNCILOR MURPHY.
[1:26:38] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD, YOU HAVE
[1:26:39] THE FLOOR.
[1:26:39] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[1:26:40] JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO THAT.
[1:26:41] BUT IF WE GO TO EVERY OTHER
[1:26:42] WEEK.
[1:26:43] AND WE ALLOW THE WAITING LIST
[1:26:44] TO COME ON TO THE.
[1:26:46] BOOKS, THEN.
[1:26:47] HOPEFULLY THERE ISN'T JUST ONE
[1:26:48] NEIGHBOR.
[1:26:48] THAT THAT SHOULD.
[1:26:49] MAKE SOME OF THE ROUTES MORE
[1:26:51] EFFICIENT MIGHT ADD.
[1:26:52] SOME ROUTES.
[1:26:52] I GET TO BUT.
[1:26:53] MIGHT MAKE THAT ONE TRIP.
[1:26:54] A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
[1:26:56] UM YEAH.
[1:26:57] IT'S UH.
[1:26:57] I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU
[1:26:58] GUYS.
[1:26:58] UH.
[1:26:59] IT'S AN.
[1:26:59] IMPORTANT THING TO TAKE ON.
[1:27:00] IT'S NOT AN EASY ONE TO TAKE
[1:27:02] ON OR GET.
[1:27:02] PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH COMPLETELY
[1:27:03] .
[1:27:03] BUT, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE
[1:27:05] WORK YOU DO.
[1:27:05] NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
[1:27:06] THANK YOU JEFF.
[1:27:07] THANK YOU.
[1:27:13] COUNCILOR DURKAN.
[1:27:13] YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
[1:27:14] THANK YOU.
[1:27:15] CHAIR FLYNN.
[1:27:16] UM, I'M JUST HEARING MY
[1:27:18] COLLEAGUES CONVERSATION.
[1:27:19] THIS HAS BEEN REALLY
[1:27:20] INTERESTING BECAUSE IF YOU WERE
[1:27:22] TO WORK BACKWARDS FROM THE
[1:27:24] CAPACITY, YOU WOULD NOT BUILD A
[1:27:26] PROGRAM LIKE THIS.
[1:27:28] LIKE ESSENTIALLY IF YOU WERE TO
[1:27:29] WORK BACKWARDS TO SAY LIKE WE
[1:27:31] HAVE THIS MUCH CAPACITY.
[1:27:34] YOU WOULDN'T WANT A BUNCH
[1:27:35] OF CARS DRIVING AROUND THE CITY
[1:27:38] OF BOSTON AND PICKING UP
[1:27:40] SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW TO HELP
[1:27:42] THE ENVIRONMENT.
[1:27:43] YOU WOULD SAY, OKAY, LET'S JUST
[1:27:45] DO ROSLINDALE AND GP.
[1:27:47] BECAUSE WE WOULD GET ENOUGH
[1:27:48] COMPOSTING FROM THERE TO FILL
[1:27:50] UP.
[1:27:50] THE CAPACITY THERE IS AND SO I
[1:27:54] GUESS I HAVE TO ASK MYSELF LIKE
[1:27:56] HOW MUCH OF THIS IS TO MAKE
[1:27:57] PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THEIR
[1:28:01] CONTRIBUTION?
[1:28:01] YOU KNOW I KNOW I SHOULDN'T BE
[1:28:03] SAYING THIS BUT AT THE SAME
[1:28:06] TIME IT'S LIKE WE NEED TO BUILD
[1:28:07] THE CAPACITY BECAUSE OTHERWISE
[1:28:08] THIS PROGRAM IS NOT GOING TO
[1:28:10] MAKE SENSE FOR THE FUTURE.
[1:28:11] AND UM, LIKE THE CAPACITY
[1:28:13] OF WHO IS TAKING THIS AND WHAT
[1:28:15] HOW IT'S BEING USED UM AND I
[1:28:18] JUST WANT TO SAY THE GARBAGE TO
[1:28:19] GARDEN FOLKS ARE JUST
[1:28:21] INCREDIBLE PEOPLE AND THEY ARE
[1:28:22] DOING INCREDIBLE WORK AND
[1:28:24] EVERYONE AT THE CITY OF BOSTON
[1:28:25] WHO'S WORKING ON THIS IS
[1:28:27] INCREDIBLE.
[1:28:28] UM, BUT YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE
[1:28:29] LIKE A MANAGEMENT CONSULTANT,
[1:28:31] RIGHT?
[1:28:32] YOU WOULD BE LIKE WE CAN GET
[1:28:33] ENOUGH BANANA PEELS FROM JP AND
[1:28:37] ROSLINDALE AND WE COULD FILL UP
[1:28:40] WE COULD FILL UP RIGHT.
[1:28:41] THE UH THE AMOUNT OF COMPOST WE
[1:28:44] NEED TO YOU KNOW, WITH THE
[1:28:46] CAPACITY THAT IS THERE.
[1:28:48] UM, AND THAT'S WHY
[1:28:50] COUNCILOR KENSI BOK WAS WAS A
[1:28:52] GENIUS AND WANTED TO USE OUR
[1:28:54] ARPA MONEY FOR CREATING, YOU
[1:28:56] KNOW, FOR CREATING A FACILITY
[1:28:57] THAT WOULD DO THIS.
[1:28:59] UM, UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE ARPA
[1:29:01] FUNDS WE HAD TO MOVE REALLY
[1:29:02] QUICKLY AND THAT JUST WASN'T IT
[1:29:04] WASN'T THERE WAS NO WAY THAT
[1:29:06] THAT WOULD BE SITED AND BUILT
[1:29:08] IN THE TIME NECESSARY.
[1:29:10] UM, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S A
[1:29:12] BUNCH OF THINGS I'M THINKING
[1:29:13] ABOUT, UM, BEING A CITY
[1:29:16] COUNCILOR YOU REALIZE THERE'S
[1:29:18] LIKE ALL THESE NICHE INDUSTRIES
[1:29:19] THAT NOBODY'S IN THAT EVERYONE
[1:29:21] COULD BE IN.
[1:29:22] LIKE WE I THINK CHIEF SWETT AND
[1:29:24] I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE RAT
[1:29:26] RODENT ICE LIKE IF YOU WERE
[1:29:28] TRYING TO MAKE MONEY IN THE
[1:29:29] CITY OF BOSTON YOU'D BE LIKE
[1:29:30] LET'S GET IN THIS RODENT ICE
[1:29:31] BUSINESS BECAUSE APPARENTLY
[1:29:32] THERE AREN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE
[1:29:33] MAKING IT.
[1:29:34] UM, SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF NICHE
[1:29:36] INDUSTRIES THAT LIKE I THINK
[1:29:37] COULD UH, SOLVE A LOT OF OUR
[1:29:39] PROBLEMS.
[1:29:39] UM, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK
[1:29:41] YOU ALL FOR ALL OF YOUR WORK.
[1:29:42] I THINK THIS IS NOT EASY AND,
[1:29:44] UM.
[1:29:44] AND WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T DESIGN
[1:29:46] IT THIS WAY, BUT WE ARE WE ARE
[1:29:49] SERVANTS TO THE PEOPLE
[1:29:50] OF BOSTON AND THEY WANT COMPOST
[1:29:51] AND WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER IT
[1:29:53] FOR THEM AS EFFICIENTLY AS
[1:29:55] POSSIBLE WITH THE BEST SET
[1:29:56] OF VENDORS FOLLOWING ALL THE
[1:29:57] PROCUREMENT LAWS.
[1:29:58] AND SO I THINK I JUST WANT TO
[1:30:00] THANK EVERYONE WHO WORKS ON
[1:30:01] THIS.
[1:30:01] I WANT TO THANK GARBAGE GARDEN
[1:30:03] PROJECT OSCAR HAS BEEN A HUGE
[1:30:04] SUCCESS IN MY UM DISTRICT AND I
[1:30:07] THINK UH WE JUST NEED MORE
[1:30:09] CAPACITY AND I THINK THAT'S THE
[1:30:11] TAKEAWAY THAT I'VE HAD FROM THE
[1:30:12] NOW THIS IS THE SECOND HEARING
[1:30:13] WE'VE HAD ON THIS SINCE I'VE
[1:30:14] BEEN ON THE COUNCIL.
[1:30:16] SO THANK YOU ALL.
[1:30:16] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[1:30:18] YEAH.
[1:30:18] JUST UH.
[1:30:20] TO RESPOND TO THAT COUNCILMAN I
[1:30:21] THINK YOU'RE SPOT ON.
[1:30:21] THAT WE ARE UH UM WHEN WE
[1:30:24] GOT STARTED IN 2014 WITH
[1:30:25] PROJECT OSCAR, I WAS ONE OF THE
[1:30:27] SKEPTICS THAT WOULD BOSTONIANS
[1:30:28] ACTUALLY BE WILLING TO SEPARATE
[1:30:29] A.
[1:30:30] THIRD.
[1:30:30] YOU KNOW, DO A THIRD THING
[1:30:32] IN TERMS OF WASTE SEPARATION
[1:30:33] AND THEN GO SOMEWHERE TO PUT
[1:30:34] FOOD INTO INTO ANOTHER WASTE
[1:30:36] ROOM?
[1:30:37] UM, WE HAVE DEMONSTRATED THAT
[1:30:38] PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DO.
[1:30:40] THINGS IN THEIR HOMES, YOU
[1:30:40] KNOW.
[1:30:41] IN ORDER TO BE A GOOD
[1:30:42] ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDS AND.
[1:30:43] BRING.
[1:30:43] FOOD PRODUCT BACK.
[1:30:43] BUT WE'RE STILL VERY MUCH IN
[1:30:45] THE PILOT.
[1:30:45] PHASE OF SCALING THIS UP.
[1:30:46] UH, AND SO I THINK I'M VERY
[1:30:48] OPTIMISTIC THAT PEOPLE CONTINUE
[1:30:49] TO DEMONSTRATE THEY'RE WILLING
[1:30:50] TO TO SEPARATE THEIR WASTE INTO
[1:30:52] THREE DIFFERENT STREAMS.
[1:30:53] UH, WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO
[1:30:56] SCALE BUT THIS PROOF OF CONCEPT
[1:30:57] OF LIKE CHICKEN OR THE EGG WE
[1:30:58] HAVE TO PROVE THAT THERE'S A
[1:30:59] PRODUCT THERE FOR THE INDUSTRY
[1:31:00] TO BEGIN TO GROW.
[1:31:01] I THINK WE'RE PROVEN IN BOSTON
[1:31:03] THAT PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO DO
[1:31:04] THIS.
[1:31:04] WE HAVE LOTS OF FOOD PEOPLE WHO
[1:31:05] SAID WE COULD DIVERT NOW HOW DO
[1:31:07] WE GET IT OUT OF THE
[1:31:08] TRADITIONAL WASTE STREAM?
[1:31:08] UM, AND WE'LL SAY AT THIS WE'VE
[1:31:10] ONLY BEEN AT FOOD WASTE
[1:31:11] RECOVERY.
[1:31:12] FOR TEN YEARS.
[1:31:13] IT TOOK LIKE 50 YEARS TO GET
[1:31:15] THE RECYCLING RATES THAT WE
[1:31:16] HAVE, YOU KNOW, IN BOSTON.
[1:31:18] UM, AND WE STILL GOT TO WORK ON
[1:31:19] THOSE.
[1:31:19] SO I THINK I SHARE YOUR SORT
[1:31:21] OF WE WOULDN'T DESIGN THIS AT
[1:31:22] SCALE BUT AND YOU KNOW FROM MY
[1:31:24] PERSPECTIVE WE'RE STILL VERY
[1:31:24] MUCH IN THE PILOT AND RAMP UP
[1:31:26] MODE UH, AROUND FOOD WASTE
[1:31:28] RECOVERY.
[1:31:30] THANK YOU.
[1:31:31] I WILL ALSO TAKE THREE
[1:31:33] MINUTES.
[1:31:34] UM, AGAIN WANT TO SAY THANK YOU
[1:31:36] TO THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM
[1:31:37] THAT'S HERE BRIAN.
[1:31:38] CHRIS ESPECIALLY WANT TO SAY
[1:31:40] THANK YOU.
[1:31:41] TO AVANTIKA.
[1:31:42] UM, VERY PROFESSIONAL
[1:31:46] OUTSTANDING JOB THAT HE'S DOING
[1:31:47] .
[1:31:47] I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOU
[1:31:49] AND, UM, HOW HARD YOU WORK AS
[1:31:52] WELL.
[1:31:52] UM.
[1:31:54] SO I KNOW WE'RE IN A PILOT
[1:31:57] PHASE WITH THE COMPOSTING.
[1:31:59] HOW MUCH.
[1:32:00] DO WE SPEND ROUGHLY EACH
[1:32:04] YEAR ON COMPOSTING.
[1:32:06] THE, UM, FOOD WASTE CURBSIDE
[1:32:09] COLLECTION PROGRAM ESSENTIALLY
[1:32:11] 2.7 MILLION FOR THIS FISCAL
[1:32:12] YEAR AND THE.
[1:32:13] PROJECT OSCAR PROGRAM IS ABOUT
[1:32:15] $120,000.
[1:32:16] OKAY, IF IT WERE TO BE.
[1:32:18] EXPANDED TO EVERY HOUSEHOLD IN
[1:32:21] THE CITY, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY
[1:32:23] GO UP SIGNIFICANTLY WHEN IT.
[1:32:24] WOULD I THINK THIS IS WHERE.
[1:32:26] THE COUNCIL.
[1:32:27] WHEN YOU WOULD BOTH HAVE THE
[1:32:29] BENEFIT OF ECONOMIES OF SCALE
[1:32:30] AROUND COLLECTION BUT YOU WOULD
[1:32:31] RUN INTO THE CAPACITY.
[1:32:32] CHALLENGES THAT EXIST WITHIN
[1:32:33] THE COMMONWEALTH AROUND WHERE
[1:32:35] IT GOES.
[1:32:35] IF UNLESS WE WERE TO SHIP
[1:32:36] MORE OF IT.
[1:32:37] TO ANAEROBIC DIGESTION.
[1:32:38] UM SO.
[1:32:39] THAT'S YEAH WE DON'T HAVE A
[1:32:40] NUMBER FOR YOU.
[1:32:41] OF HOW.
[1:32:41] MUCH THAT WOULD BE.
[1:32:42] COULD IT BE.
[1:32:43] AS HIGH AS UM 8 OR 10 MILLION?
[1:32:46] IS THAT THE RANGE YOU'RE
[1:32:47] TALKING ABOUT OR POTENTIALLY
[1:32:48] TALKING ABOUT?
[1:32:51] UM IT WOULD BE HARD TO COME UP.
[1:32:53] WITH.
[1:32:53] THE NUMBER RIGHT NOW.
[1:32:54] SO WE UH.
[1:32:54] OUR UNDERSTANDING.
[1:32:55] IS.
[1:32:56] THAT ADDING MORE STOPS TO THE
[1:32:57] RULE DOES NOT SIGNIFICANTLY
[1:32:59] CHANGE THE DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT
[1:33:01] BECAUSE WE ALSO.
[1:33:02] OFFER BINS ALONG WITH THAT HAVE
[1:33:04] BEEN COST US 30 BUCKS HAVE BEEN
[1:33:07] UM THAT WOULD BE THE COST THAT
[1:33:08] WOULD CONTINUE.
[1:33:10] TO GROW IF WE GO FROM.
[1:33:13] 27,000 TO.
[1:33:14] 2 40.
[1:33:14] TO 70 OKAY.
[1:33:15] UH, ALONG EXISTING ROUTES I
[1:33:17] MEAN THAT'S ALSO THE
[1:33:18] CHALLENGES.
[1:33:18] AS YOU SAW THE COLOR CODED MAP
[1:33:20] THERE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS
[1:33:20] WHERE WE HAVE PLENTY
[1:33:22] OF EXISTING ROUTES.
[1:33:22] THERE ARE A LOT
[1:33:23] OF NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE WE DON'T
[1:33:24] HAVE ANY ROUTES AND.
[1:33:24] UH.
[1:33:25] YOU KNOW, THERE'S A COST TO.
[1:33:25] EXPAND INTO NEW ROUTES.
[1:33:28] .
[1:33:28] AND HOW MANY TRUCKS DO WE
[1:33:30] HAVE COMPOSTING.
[1:33:31] TRUCKS IN THE CITY THAT DO.
[1:33:33] THESE PICKUPS?
[1:33:34] THEY'RE NINE COLLECTION.
[1:33:36] NINE OKAY.
[1:33:39] AND IS.
[1:33:40] THAT'S A CONTRACTED THAT'S
[1:33:43] CONTRACTED OUT.
[1:33:43] CORRECT OKAY.
[1:33:45] .
[1:33:45] AND SO SO WE HAVE THE
[1:33:49] TRADITIONAL TRASH WE HAVE THE
[1:33:52] RECYCLING TRASH.
[1:33:53] WE HAVE THE COMPOSTING TRASH.
[1:33:56] UM ARE THERE ANY CITIES THAT
[1:33:59] ARE LOOKING AT WAYS OF SO YOU
[1:34:03] HAVE THREE TRUCKS DOING DOING
[1:34:05] THREE DIFFERENT THINGS BUT DO
[1:34:06] YOU HAVE ANY WAY OF I DON'T
[1:34:08] KNOW IF THE WORD IS CONSOLIDATE
[1:34:10] OR OR STREAMLINE IT IN SUCH A
[1:34:12] WAY WHERE YOU DON'T NECESSARILY
[1:34:13] HAVE THREE TRUCKS YOU COULD
[1:34:15] POTENTIALLY HAVE TWO TRUCKS.
[1:34:17] I DON'T KNOW, I'M JUST KIND
[1:34:18] OF THINKING OUT LOUD.
[1:34:19] WE HAVE HEARD FROM INNOVATORS
[1:34:22] IN THE INDUSTRY OF HAVING UM A
[1:34:24] TRUCK THAT CO-MINGLE.
[1:34:25] ALL BASED SO YOU JUST BAG.
[1:34:29] IT DIFFERENTLY COLOR.
[1:34:30] CODED BAGS THE SAME TRUCK
[1:34:31] COLLECTS THAT GOES TO.
[1:34:33] A.
[1:34:33] FACILITY WHERE THE SEPARATION
[1:34:34] HAPPENS AT THE FACILITY.
[1:34:36] UM, THERE IS THAT WE ALSO.
[1:34:38] HAD I THINK SPLIT BODY
[1:34:39] TRUCKS FOR A WHILE.
[1:34:40] FOR RECYCLING AND TRASH BUT UM
[1:34:43] I'M NOT SURE IF MANY CITIES ARE
[1:34:44] STILL USING THOSE.
[1:34:45] I THINK NEW YORK STILL HAS.
[1:34:47] NO THAT'S THAT'S EXCELLENT.
[1:34:49] UM.
[1:34:54] SO I THINK WE WE.
[1:34:55] DID TWO ROUNDS OF QUESTIONS AND
[1:34:59] AGAIN WANT TO SAY THANK.
[1:35:00] YOU TO THE.
[1:35:02] PANEL FOR BEING HERE.
[1:35:03] I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO MY
[1:35:05] CITY COUNCIL COLLEAGUES
[1:35:06] BRINGING THIS FORWARD.
[1:35:09] COUNCILOR CARTER ZAPATA
[1:35:10] COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE
[1:35:11] COUNCILOR DURKAN.
[1:35:15] SO TODAY'S HEARING.
[1:35:19] DOCKETS 0773 IS ADJOURNED.
[1:35:25] THANK YOU, THANK YOU.