City Services on October 23, 2026

0:30 UM.

0:31 GOOD MORNING.

0:37 FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ED

0:39 FLYNN, DISTRICT TWO CITY

0:41 COUNCIL CHAIR OF THE BOSTON

0:42 CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON CITY

0:44 SERVICES.

0:45 TODAY IS OCTOBER 23RD, 2026.

0:48 THE EXACT TIME IS TEN.

0:53 OH TWO.

0:54 THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED

0:56 .

0:57 IT IS BEING LIVE

0:59 STREAMED@BOSTON.GOV.

0:59 CITY COUNCIL TV AND BROADCAST

1:04 ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN

1:08 CHANNEL 82 FILES CHANNEL 964.

1:13 WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO

1:15 THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C C C

1:18 DOT C S CITY@BOSTON.GOV.

1:23 AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE

1:25 RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL

1:26 CITY COUNCILORS.

1:30 PUBLIC PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE

1:32 TAKEN THROUGHOUT THE HEARING.

1:35 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

1:37 IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE

1:39 SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE TWO

1:41 MINUTES TO TESTIFY.

1:42 I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS PEOPLE ON

1:44 ZOOM VIRTUALLY DON'T WANT TO

1:46 TESTIFY AS WELL.

1:48 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN

1:49 TESTIFYING IN PERSON, PLEASE

1:52 ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP

1:53 SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE

1:55 I AND OUR CHAMBER AS YOU WALK

1:57 IN.

1:58 IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY

2:00 VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CITY

2:03 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON

2:05 MEGAN AT MTA GARDEN DOT C O R U

2:13 G D UH MA TIN@BOSTON.GOV.

2:19 LET ME REPEAT THAT EMAIL AGAIN.

2:25 MEAGAN DODD C O R U G E D O M A

2:36 MARTIN@BOSTON.GOV.

2:37 FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL

2:40 BE ADDED TO THE LIST.

2:43 TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 18

2:45 ZERO FOUR.

2:46 IT'S AN ORDER FOR A HEARING TO

2:47 DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE

2:48 BOSTON ROAD IN ACTION PLAN.

2:50 THE MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY

2:52 COUNCILORS BREADON,

2:54 COUNCILOR AND FLYNN AND WAS

2:56 REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON

3:01 SEPTEMBER.

3:01 23RD 2026.

3:03 I AM JOINED BY CITY COUNCILORS

3:06 IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL, CITY

3:09 COUNCIL PRESIDENT LIZ BREADON.

3:15 I'M GOING TO GIVE AN

3:16 OPPORTUNITY FOR UM

3:19 COUNCIL OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT

3:20 BREADON TO SPEAK.

3:24 UM I WILL GIVE A OPENING

3:26 STATEMENT AS WELL AFTER THE

3:27 COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

3:29 I WILL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR

3:31 THE INVITED PANEL TO PROVIDE AN

3:34 OPENING STATEMENT.

3:35 AND THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM

3:36 THAT IS PRESENT INCLUDES JOHN

3:39 O'ROURKE, ASSISTANT

3:40 COMMISSIONER, ENVIRONMENTAL

3:42 SANITATION INSPECTIONAL SERVICE

3:44 DEPARTMENT LUKE HINES,

3:46 CO-CHAIR, BOSTON ROAD AN ACTION

3:47 PLAN.

3:49 JOSH OFFSPRING, THE CHIEF

3:52 OF MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTIONS

3:53 AT THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY

3:55 .

3:55 AND JEFF KAPLAN WHO'S AT THE DO

3:59 A TEAM INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY

4:02 CITY OF BOSTON.

4:05 UM BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE

4:07 COUNCIL PRESIDENT BREADON AN

4:09 OPPORTUNITY.

4:12 UM AND THEN I'LL THEN I'LL

4:13 SPEAK AFTER COUNCIL BREADON.

4:15 UM, COUNCIL BREADON, YOU HAVE

4:17 THE FLOOR.

4:21 THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.

4:22 FLYNN.

4:23 UM, THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING

4:24 WITH ME ON THIS HEARING.

4:25 AND THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS

4:27 FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

4:29 UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL

4:31 THE BOSTON RESIDENTS WHO HAVE

4:32 QUITE A FEW FOLKS WHO HAVE

4:33 ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO COME

4:34 IN TO PARTICIPATE OR LISTEN OR

4:37 GIVE TESTIMONY IN THAT TODAY'S

4:38 HEARING.

4:39 UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR

4:42 TAKING THE TIME TO SHOW UP.

4:43 UH, SEND IN YOUR COMMENTS OR IF

4:45 YOU'RE WATCHING ONLINE.

4:47 A BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE FOLKS IN

4:48 ALLSTON BRIGHTON WERE CHECKING

4:50 AND LISTENING IN AT HOME.

4:52 RODENT ACTIVITY REMAINS TO BE

4:54 ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT

4:55 CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR ABOUT UH,

4:57 FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS.

4:59 THE BOSTON RODENT ACTION PLAN

5:00 WAS RELEASED IN 2024 AS AN

5:03 INITIATIVE INTENDED TO

5:05 STREAMLINE AND IMPROVE THE

5:06 CITY'S RODENT CONTROL EFFORTS.

5:08 IT CALLED FOR STRONGER

5:10 INSPECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENT,

5:12 BETTER WASTE MANAGEMENT

5:13 PRACTICES, IMPROVED DATA

5:15 COLLECTION AND COORDINATION

5:17 ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS.

5:18 THE REPORT ALSO OUTLINED

5:21 PRIORITY ACTION NEIGHBORHOODS

5:23 PLANS WHERE RODENT CONTROL

5:25 EFFORTS WERE TO BE TARGETED.

5:27 MY DISTRICT OF ALLSTON BRIGHTON

5:29 IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY

5:31 PAN IN THE BOSTON UM RODENT

5:34 ACTION PLAN.

5:36 ALLSTON BRIGHTON IS STILL

5:37 WAITING.

5:39 UM I ON BOSTON UH TWO YEARS

5:42 LATER WE HAVE WE'RE STILL

5:44 WAITING FOR UH.

5:46 UM WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A

5:47 PUBLIC UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC

5:49 RODENT ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS

5:50 REALLY IMPORTANT.

5:51 WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME A

5:53 REALLY GOOD UPDATE ON ON THE

5:55 ROAD ACTION PLAN THIS MORNING.

5:57 ALLSTON BRIGHTON IS WAITING FOR

5:58 TARGETED INTERVENTIONS PROMISED

6:00 .

6:01 THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT

6:02 RODENT RESISTANT TRASH CANS FOR

6:04 ALLSTON VILLAGE, BUT WE'RE

6:05 STILL WAITING FOR THOSE TO BE

6:07 INSTALLED.

6:08 LAST MONTH BOSTON HOSTED THE

6:10 NATIONAL URBAN SUMMIT LEAGUE

6:12 BRINGING TOGETHER RESEARCHERS,

6:14 PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND

6:16 MUNICIPAL LEADERS TO DISCUSS

6:17 NEW APPROACHES TO OUR RODENT

6:20 CONTROL.

6:21 THIS HEARING IS THE

6:22 COUNCIL REQUESTING AN UPDATE ON

6:24 THE STATUS OF THE WALDEN ACTION

6:25 PLAN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

6:27 HEARING FROM INSPECTIONAL

6:28 SERVICES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS

6:30 INVOLVED IN BOP ABOUT THE

6:31 PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE,

6:33 CURRENT GAPS AND WHAT CAN BE

6:35 DONE TO CURB RODENT ACTIVITY IN

6:36 ALLSTON, BRIGHTON AND ACROSS

6:38 THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF BOSTON.

6:40 UH THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE

6:41 THIS MORNING.

6:42 I LOOK FORWARD TO THE

6:43 CONVERSATION AND UH, THANK YOU

6:45 .

6:45 UM, CHAIR FLYNN.

6:47 THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

6:48 I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF ON MY

6:50 OPENING STATEMENT AT THIS TIME.

6:51 I MAY DO IT LATER, BUT I WANT

6:53 TO GO RIGHT TO THE

6:54 ADMINISTRATION FOR OPENING

6:55 STATEMENT.

6:56 UM.

7:00 SO OF OF THE FOUR OF YOU WHAT

7:01 ARE YOU DO I WANT TO SPEAK OR.

7:04 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

7:05 UM.

7:06 WE ACTUALLY HAVE A

7:06 PRESENTATION.

7:07 THAT WE SUBMITTED TO CENTRAL

7:08 STAFF.

7:08 UH, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN

7:11 PULL THAT PRESENTATION UP AND

7:12 DO THAT FOR OUR OPENING

7:12 STATEMENT?

7:13 SURE.

7:14 UM, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE NEED

7:15 FOR THAT?

7:16 I THINK WE CAN.

7:17 GET THROUGH IN ABOUT, UH, 12

7:18 MINUTES.

7:19 OKAY.

7:21 I'LL GIVE YOU A 12 MINUTES.

7:26 JUST GIVE ME JUST GIVE ME A

7:28 SECOND.

7:29 NO WORRIES.

7:29 YEAH.

7:42 AFTER THE AFTER THE 12 MINUTES.

7:45 UM, INSTEAD OF US GOING INTO

7:48 QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO TAKE AN

7:50 OPPORTUNITY.

7:51 TO THERE'S.

7:52 A THERE'S 3 OR 4 PEOPLE ON

7:53 ZOOM.

7:54 I MAY TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY.

7:56 TO ASK THEM TO TESTIFY.

7:58 UM, THEY INCLUDE BONNIE KELLY.

8:04 UM, VALENE SMITH AND SOMEONE

8:09 WITH THE INITIAL D SO I MAY

8:12 TAKE THOSE FOR AFTER, UM, YOU

8:15 GIVE YOUR OPENING STATEMENT.

8:23 SO FOR THOSE FOUR PEOPLE I

8:25 MENTIONED.

8:27 UM, ON ZOOM, I'LL BE CALLING ON

8:30 YOU SHORTLY AFTER THIS.

8:33 UM.

8:36 AFTER THE TESTIMONY IT SEEMS

8:38 LIKE THE LIVE STREAM IS DOWN.

8:41 LET US TAKE A BRIEF RECESS.

8:52 TECHNICAL TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT

8:53 UNTIL IT ISN'T.

10:57 WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD.

10:59 UM, THE THE THERE MIGHT STILL

11:01 BE A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE, BUT I

11:04 WOULD ASK IF PEOPLE WOULD GO TO

11:08 YOUTUBE.COM SLASH BOSTON CITY

11:13 COUNCIL TV.

11:15 UM, AND IF I GET ANOTHER UPDATE

11:18 I WILL PASS IT ALONG.

11:19 UM BUT WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME

11:21 .

11:23 TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGES WITH UM

11:27 WITH GETTING THIS INFORMATION

11:28 OUT.

11:30 UM, HAVING SAID THAT I WANT TO

11:33 GO DIRECTLY TO JOHN ELRICK.

11:35 UM.

11:39 FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

11:41 GREAT.

11:42 THANK YOU CHAIR.

11:43 THANK YOU COUNCILOR.

11:46 UM, SO AS COUNCILOR BREADON

11:47 MENTIONED, WE'RE REALLY

11:48 GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY TO

11:50 PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS

11:51 OF THE BOSTON ACTION PLAN.

11:53 UM, IF YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT

11:54 SLIDE, I JUST WANT TO START

11:55 WITH A QUICK AGENDA OF OF WHAT

11:56 WE PLAN TO COVER HERE TODAY.

11:59 SO UM, WE'RE GOING TO START

12:00 JUST GIVING FOLKS AN OVERVIEW

12:02 OF WHAT IS THE ACTION PLAN.

12:03 UH, WHO'S INVOLVED IN IN AND

12:05 KIND OF SOME OF THE KEY FOCUS

12:07 AREAS THAT UH COUNCILOR BRITTON

12:09 OUTLINED IN HER OPENING REMARKS

12:10 .

12:10 UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION

12:11 INTO TALKING A LITTLE BIT

12:13 AROUND THE RESPONSE EFFORTS TO

12:15 SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT

12:16 WE'VE UH, RECEIVED OVER THE

12:18 LAST, UH, MANY MONTHS AND THEN

12:20 TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE END

12:21 ABOUT SOME OF THE

12:22 CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL PROGRAMS AND

12:23 INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE

12:24 UNDERWAY AND THAT ARE UPCOMING,

12:26 UH, AND PLANNED OVER THE NEXT

12:27 COUPLE OF MONTHS.

12:29 SO AS WE TRANSITION INTO THE

12:30 NEXT SLIDE HERE, UM, REALLY

12:31 JUST WANT TO GIVE FOLKS UH, AN

12:33 OVERVIEW AND UNDERSTANDING

12:34 OF WHAT THE BOSTON ROAD IN

12:35 ACTION PLAN IS.

12:36 SO AS COUNCILOR BENTON

12:38 MENTIONED A LITTLE OVER TWO AND

12:39 A HALF YEARS AGO UNDER MAYOR

12:40 MICHELLE WU'S LEADERSHIP, WE

12:42 LAUNCHED THE BOSTON ROAD IN

12:43 ACTION PLAN.

12:44 IT IS A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL

12:46 COORDINATED EFFORT AND DOCTOR

12:48 BOBBY CORRIGAN, UH, ONE OF THE

12:50 WORLD'S LEADING ROAD ONTOLOGIES

12:50 CAME TO THE CITY TO DO AN

12:53 ANALYSIS AROUND SOME OF THE

12:54 CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE FACING,

12:55 UH, AND PUT TOGETHER SOME

12:56 RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WE FOLLOW

12:57 TO HELP KIND OF INFLUENCE OUR

12:59 PLAN AND ALSO HELP US REDUCE

13:00 RODENT ACTIVITY HERE IN THE

13:02 CITY.

13:02 AND SO SOME OF THESE PRIORITY

13:04 AREAS, AS THE

13:04 COUNCILOR MENTIONED, IS REALLY

13:05 TAKING THIS CITYWIDE

13:06 COORDINATED APPROACH USING

13:09 UTILIZING NEW TECHNOLOGY UM,

13:11 REALLY TRYING TO GET A BETTER

13:12 SENSE USING DATA OF KIND

13:14 OF WHAT ARE THE UM KIND

13:16 OF DIFFERENT INTERVENTIONS THAT

13:17 ARE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL

13:18 EDUCATING RESIDENTS AS

13:20 RESIDENTS PLAY A REALLY BIG

13:21 ROLE IN HELPING US TO REDUCE

13:23 RODENT POPULATION HERE IN THE

13:24 CITY AND FOCUSING ON SOME

13:25 OF THE ROOT DRIVERS OF UH,

13:27 RODENT POPULATION WHICH IS UH

13:29 TRASH COLLECTION.

13:30 AND SO OUR GOAL OF BRAF IS TO

13:33 REDUCE RODENT POPULATIONS AND

13:35 REALLY TRY TO IMPROVE THE

13:36 QUALITY OF LIFE BY IMPROVING

13:37 BASIC CITY SERVICES ACROSS ALL

13:40 NEIGHBORHOODS.

13:40 AND SO JUST QUICKLY

13:42 HIGHLIGHTING UM WHO IS INVOLVED

13:43 IN BRAP BRAP IS A CITYWIDE

13:46 DEPARTMENT WIDE EFFORT.

13:47 WE HAVE OVER 18 DEPARTMENTS

13:49 THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS

13:50 INITIATIVE.

13:50 IT'S LED OUT OF THE MAYOR'S

13:52 OFFICE, UH, OUT OF CHIEF DIANE

13:54 IRISH'S CABINET.

13:55 UH AND WE CO-CHAIR IT ALONGSIDE

13:57 MYSELF AND JOHN BUT MANY OF THE

13:58 DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE

13:59 JOINED ALONGSIDE MEJIA TODAY.

14:01 UH, AND THAT YOU SEE LISTED ON

14:02 THE SCREEN AND THIS MAP JUST ON

14:04 THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN

14:05 HIGHLIGHTS MANY OF THE

14:06 DIFFERENT INTERVENTIONS AND

14:08 PILOT PROGRAMS THAT DIFFERENT

14:09 DEPARTMENTS HAVE TAKEN ON, UH,

14:10 AND ARE MOVING FORWARD UH, OVER

14:12 THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND GOING

14:13 FORWARD.

14:14 SO HIGHLIGHTING OUR SEWER TRAPS

14:16 ,OUR SURFACE TRAPS, DIFFERENT

14:17 SENSORS, THE BARREL TOPPERS AND

14:19 NEW ROAD RESISTANT BINS WE HAVE

14:21 IN PARKS TALKING A LITTLE BIT

14:22 AROUND.

14:22 THE TREE PIT WORK THAT WE'VE

14:24 DONE UH, AND HIGHLIGHTING SOME

14:26 OF THE OTHER UH, MITIGATION

14:27 EFFORTS THAT WE DO TO REDUCE

14:29 RODENT POPULATION HERE IN THE

14:30 CITY.

14:31 AND SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO

14:32 PASS IT OVER TO JOHN TO TALK A

14:34 LITTLE BIT AROUND THE WORK THAT

14:34 HIS TEAM DOES TO ADDRESS SOME

14:36 OF THESE COMPLAINTS.

14:37 THANKS, LUKE.

14:38 UM, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE

14:40 NUMBERS SINCE JANUARY 1ST.

14:42 SO MY TEAM UH WE HAVE 1314

14:45 LICENSED INSPECTORS.

14:47 UH, BUT ONE OF THOSE IS THE

14:48 CHIEF INSPECTOR AND A DIRECTOR.

14:51 UM, AND UH, WE ARE AN

14:53 ENFORCEMENT UM TEAM.

14:54 OUR MAIN FUNCTION IS THE

14:56 ENFORCEMENT OF THE STATE

14:57 SANITARY CODE.

14:58 UM, AND WE RESPOND TO 311

15:00 COMPLAINTS.

15:02 SO SINCE JANUARY 1ST WE'VE

15:04 RESPONDED TO 6018 RODENT

15:07 COMPLAINTS.

15:08 UM, WE'VE CONDUCTED 750 RODENT

15:11 TREATMENTS.

15:12 UM, A LOT OF THAT IS, UH,

15:14 BAITING SEWERS OR USING

15:17 CARBON MONOXIDE AND

15:18 CARBON DIOXIDE.

15:19 UM, WE'VE ISSUED 785

15:22 VIOLATIONS.

15:23 AND SO WHEN WE ISSUE A

15:25 VIOLATION, THEY, UH, SERVED

15:27 EITHER BY PRIORITY MEAL OR UH,

15:31 BY CONSTABLE AND THEN UH, WHEN

15:33 YOU RECEIVE A VIOLATION FROM

15:34 THE DATE OF SERVICE, YOU HAVE

15:35 SEVEN DAYS TO CORRECT THAT

15:37 VIOLATION.

15:37 UM, IF YOU DON'T CORRECT

15:39 VIOLATION IN THAT TIME YOU SENT

15:41 TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING.

15:43 UM, TO GIVE ANOTHER, UH,

15:45 OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THE

15:46 VIOLATION IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED

15:48 IN THAT TIME YOU SENT TO, UH,

15:51 HOUSING COURT.

15:52 WE'VE ALSO CONDUCTED 3000

15:55 DUMPSTER INSPECTIONS.

15:56 THIS IS OUR SITE CLEANLINESS

15:57 PROGRAM.

15:58 SO, UH, EVERY LICENSED, UH,

16:01 DUMPSTER GETS A ANNUAL

16:03 INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE IT'S

16:04 FUNCTIONING AND THAT IT'S

16:06 CONTAINING TRASH PROPERLY.

16:08 UM, 210 CONSTRUCTION SANITATION

16:12 INSPECTIONS.

16:13 THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY

16:14 SANITATION PROGRAM.

16:15 ANY KIND OF PERMIT THAT YOU

16:17 PULL WHETHER IT'S DEMOLITION,

16:19 UM, OR ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION

16:21 THAT MAY DISPERSE OR AFFECT

16:24 RODENT POPULATION IF THEY'RE ON

16:26 THE THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE

16:27 REQUIRED TO HAVE PEST CONTROL

16:29 AND AN INSPECTION BY A LICENSED

16:30 PEST CONTROL TECHNICIAN.

16:32 UM, THEN WE INSPECT THE

16:34 PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT

16:35 HAPPENED.

16:36 UM, AND THEN WE'VE CONDUCTED 25

16:38 COMMUNITY WALKTHROUGHS.

16:39 SO IF AN AREA HAS MULTIPLE UH

16:42 COMPLAINTS AND UM AND THEY UM

16:46 THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE

16:47 ATTENTION.

16:48 WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE

16:49 OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND

16:50 OUR OWN CONSTITUENT SERVICES TO

16:53 CONDUCT NEIGHBORHOOD

16:54 WALKTHROUGHS TO UH, DO

16:57 EDUCATION, UM AND ENFORCEMENT.

17:01 NEXT SLIDE.

17:04 UH, THIS IS JUST A SLIDE TO

17:07 TALK ABOUT THE COORDINATED

17:08 RESPONSE WITHIN UH ESD.

17:11 UM, SO WE HAVE 14 INSPECTORS

17:14 THAT ARE LICENSED TO DO PEST

17:16 CONTROL AND DEAL UH, PRIMARILY

17:18 WITH RATS.

17:20 BUT WITHIN ESD WE HAVE ALMOST

17:24 60 INSPECTORS THAT CAN DEAL

17:25 WITH RAT RELATED COMPLAINTS.

17:27 WE HAVE HOUSING INSPECTORS THAT

17:28 DEAL WITH THE INTERIOR

17:29 OF BUILDINGS, UH, AND RENTAL

17:31 UNITS.

17:32 WE ALSO HAVE HEALTH INSPECTORS

17:33 THAT DEAL WITH UM PERMITTED UH,

17:37 FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.

17:38 AND SO THIS CASE, UH, WAS A

17:42 COMPLICATED CASE A LARGE

17:43 BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON

17:46 WHERE, UH, IT HAD 12 STORIES

17:48 AND A LOT OF RODENT PRESSURE.

17:49 THEY HAD COMMERCIAL, UH, CONDOS

17:52 ON THE THE FIRST FLOOR AND, UM

17:55 ,THE SITUATION WAS PRETTY BAD.

17:57 SO WE, UH ALONG WITH THE

17:59 HOUSING DIVISION AND THE HEALTH

18:01 DIVISION.

18:02 UM, WE SHOWED UP AND DID A

18:04 COORDINATED INSPECTION.

18:06 UM, WE THEN SET UP WEEKLY

18:08 MEETINGS WITH THE MANAGEMENT

18:10 TEAM.

18:10 WE MADE A LIST

18:12 OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

18:12 ONE WAS THAT THEY HIRED A

18:16 CONSULTANT TO DEAL WITH THE, UH

18:18 ,SPECIFIC SPECIFIC

18:20 VULNERABILITIES OF THAT

18:21 BUILDING, WHICH THEY DID.

18:23 UM, AND THEY CONDUCTED A

18:27 REPORT.

18:28 WE THEN, UH, MET WITH THEM

18:29 EVERY WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT

18:31 THE VIOLATIONS WERE BEING

18:33 ADDRESSED BOTH BY HEALTH,

18:35 HOUSING AND ENVIRONMENTAL

18:37 SERVICES.

18:37 UM, AND WALK THEM THROUGH IT

18:40 UNTIL ALL THE CONCERNS WERE

18:43 WERE ADDRESSED AND SO ALL THE

18:45 COMMERCIAL UNITS AND EVERY UH,

18:49 RESIDENTIAL BUILDING EVERY

18:50 RESIDENTIAL UNIT WAS OFFERED AN

18:53 INSPECTION.

18:54 UM AND WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE

18:56 THE VIOLATIONS.

18:59 NEXT SLIDE I'LL TURN IT OVER TO

19:01 JEFF TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

19:03 THE DATA.

19:04 GOOD MORNING.

19:05 UM, I'M JEFF KAPLAN.

19:06 I'M FROM THE CITY'S ANALYTICS

19:07 TEAM.

19:07 UM, AND YEAH, I'M GOING TO TALK

19:09 A.

19:09 LITTLE.

19:09 BIT ABOUT.

19:10 HOW DATA HAS SUPPORTED THE

19:11 PROGRAM THROUGHOUT ITS LIFE.

19:13 UM.

19:14 SO WE'VE PRIMARILY USED DATA

19:15 IN TWO AREAS.

19:17 UM, THE FIRST IS BASICALLY TO

19:19 EVALUATE WHETHER INTERVENTIONS

19:20 HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE.

19:21 AND THEN THE SECOND IS TO

19:23 SUPPORT TEAMS LIKE JOHN'S TEAM

19:25 WITH DATA FOR PROACTIVE

19:26 MITIGATION STRATEGIES.

19:28 SO WE'LL START BY TALKING ABOUT

19:29 SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTION

19:30 TOOLS THAT WE USED.

19:31 AND JUST GENERALLY LIKE THE

19:33 PROCESS OF HOW WE'RE THINKING

19:34 ABOUT UM HOW TO USE DATA TO

19:36 EVALUATE.

19:37 SO GENERALLY OUR PROCESS HAS

19:39 BEEN TO START BY TAKING A

19:40 BASELINE MEASUREMENTS.

19:41 UM SO THAT'S LIKE GETTING THERE

19:43 BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING JUST

19:44 SEEING WHAT'S THE LEVEL

19:45 OF RODENT ACTIVITY IS THEN

19:47 MAKING AN INTERVENTION.

19:48 AND THEN AFTER THE INTERVENTION

19:51 USING CONTROL SITES TO COMPARE

19:53 AGAINST AND SAY OKAY DO WE

19:55 THINK THAT THIS INTERVENTION

19:56 WAS ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE AT

19:57 REDUCING RODENT ACTIVITY?

19:59 UM, SO TWO OF THE PROGRAMS THAT

20:01 WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE

20:02 UM, HAVE BEEN OUR GROUND SENSOR

20:04 PROGRAM.

20:04 SO THOSE ARE THE CHARTS THAT

20:05 YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HERE.

20:07 UM BASICALLY THESE ARE LITTLE

20:08 TINY SENSORS ABOUT THE SIZE

20:09 OF AN AIRPOD CASE THAT GO IN

20:10 BAIT BOXES WITH NONTOXIC BAIT.

20:13 AND EVERY TIME A RODENT COMES

20:14 INTO THAT BOX IT.

20:16 DETECTS THEM.

20:16 AND MEASURES THEIR PRESENCE.

20:18 UM, SO WE USE THAT PROGRAM TO

20:19 TRY TO MEASURE SOME THINGS LIKE

20:20 TRASH HOPPER UM, IMPROVEMENTS

20:23 AROUND PARKS.

20:24 UM, THE OTHER UH, TECHNOLOGY

20:26 WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE

20:28 IS SOME CAMERA SENSOR

20:29 TECHNOLOGY THAT WE WORKED WITH

20:30 .

20:30 UM, EXTRA SENSE WAS A COMPANY

20:32 WE WORKED WITH ON THIS AND THE

20:34 IDEA HERE IS THAT THE CAMERA

20:35 USES AN ALGORITHM TO DETECT THE

20:37 PRESENCE OF RODENTS.

20:38 UM, IN THE CAMERA FOOTAGE.

20:40 AND THEN EACH TIME IT DETECTS

20:41 THAT RODENT IT TAKES A SNIPPET

20:43 OF THAT UM, VIDEO BASICALLY AND

20:46 SAVES THAT VIDEO AND THEN UM,

20:48 RECORDS THAT THERE WAS A RODENT

20:50 PRESENT THERE.

20:50 SO UM, SORT OF LIKE AA2

20:53 DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE WERE

20:54 USING BASICALLY TO COLLECT THIS

20:55 DATA.

20:56 BUT IN BOTH CASES IT WAS TRYING

20:57 TO SEE YOU KNOW, ARE THE

20:59 INTERVENTIONS THAT WE HAVE

21:00 EFFECTIVE.

21:01 UM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.

21:02 AND THEN UM IN TERMS

21:04 OF PROACTIVE MITIGATION UM

21:05 WE'VE BEEN WORKING UM WE'VE

21:07 BEEN TRYING A LOT OF DIFFERENT

21:08 THINGS TO WORK WITH JOHNS TEAM

21:10 TO TRY TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS

21:12 TO HAVE A BETTER AND MORE

21:13 PROACTIVE APPROACH TO

21:14 MITIGATION.

21:15 UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE

21:16 LANDED ON AND WE'RE HOPING TO

21:17 SORT OF LAUNCH AND PILOT WITH

21:19 THIS TEAM THIS FALL IN WINTER.

21:20 UM, WE CALL IT OUR HOTSPOT

21:21 MODEL.

21:22 SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY'RE

21:24 KIND OF THREE AREAS THAT THIS

21:25 IS TRYING TO TARGET.

21:26 UM, ONE IS PLACES WITH UNUSUAL

21:29 SPIKES AND VIOLATIONS IN THE

21:30 LAST TWO WEEKS.

21:31 SO SOME AREAS MAY HAVE MORE

21:32 VIOLATIONS IN OTHERS BUT THIS

21:34 IS TRYING TO SAY LIKE HEY YOU

21:35 KNOW THIS IS NOT THE BASELINE

21:36 LEVEL.

21:37 THIS IS A AN ELEVATED LEVEL

21:39 OF VIOLATIONS IN THIS AREA.

21:41 UM ANOTHER IS THROUGH ONLINE

21:42 COMPLAINT CLUSTERS.

21:44 UM AND SPECIFICALLY AREAS WHERE

21:46 THERE HAVEN'T BEEN TOO MANY

21:47 VIOLATIONS OR INSPECTIONS IN

21:48 THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS BUT WE

21:49 ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN THREE

21:50 AND ONE CASES.

21:51 UM, AND THEN THE LAST IS A

21:53 BLOCK GROUP WITH THE LONGEST

21:54 TIME SINCE ISD HAS DONE AN

21:56 INSPECTION.

21:56 UM, SO THIS JUST KEEPS PLACES

21:58 WITH FEWER THREE AND ONE

21:59 COMPLAINTS AND VIOLATIONS IN

22:00 MIND AS WELL.

22:01 AND ALL OF THIS IS JUST BEING A

22:02 WAY TO SORT OF LIKE MAKES THE

22:04 DATA LEGIBLE FOR JOHNS TEAM

22:06 EASIER FOR THEM TO ACCESS AND

22:07 USE IN THEIR DAY TO DAY WORK.

22:10 UH NEXT SLIDE.

22:11 AND THEN LASTLY UM SORT OF THE

22:14 NEXT PHASE OF THIS UM WE'RE

22:15 DOING A ANOTHER PILOT UM IN

22:19 PARTNERSHIP WITH A RESEARCH

22:20 INSTITUTE CALLED BASIS AI.

22:22 UM AND THEY ARE A GROUP

22:23 OF RODENT BEHAVIORAL

22:25 RESEARCHERS.

22:25 UM AND SO THEY'RE USING AUDIO

22:27 TO DETECT RODENT PRESENCE AND

22:29 SORT OF USE IT AS LIKE AN

22:31 ULTRASONIC LEVEL.

22:31 SO OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE

22:32 OF HUMAN HEARING.

22:33 UM, AND ESSENTIALLY WE'VE BEEN

22:35 WORKING WITH THEM SO FAR ON SIX

22:37 SITES.

22:37 UM, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF REALLY

22:39 GOOD PRELIMINARY SUCCESS ON

22:40 THIS OF THEM USING THIS

22:42 TECHNOLOGY TO MEASURE RODENT

22:43 ACTIVITY IN SORT OF LIKE A MORE

22:45 RELIABLE WAY THAN WHAT WE'VE

22:46 BEEN ABLE TO SO FAR.

22:47 AND THEY'RE REALLY GREAT TEAM

22:49 WITH A LOT OF REALLY USEFUL

22:51 EXPERIENCE FOR THIS.

22:52 SO WE'RE EXCITED TO PARTNER

22:53 WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD.

22:57 AND I'LL PASS BACK TO LUKE I.

22:58 THINK I CAN TAKE THIS.

23:02 UM SO THE NEXT IS UH

23:05 CONTAINERIZATION OF OF TRASH.

23:06 SO UH WITH PREP WE UH LOOKING

23:10 TO CONTAINERIZE TRASH WHERE WE

23:11 CAN.

23:12 UM, WE'RE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING

23:14 STREET BARRELS AND PARK LITTER

23:17 BASKETS.

23:17 UM, AND SO OUR NEW RODENT

23:20 RESISTANT BARRELS WE STARTED IN

23:22 THE BOSTON COMMONS UM, WITH THE

23:26 UM WITH THE NEW VICTOR STANLEY

23:27 WATER RESISTANT BARREL.

23:29 WE ALSO INSTALLED, UH, THE THE

23:32 VICTOR STANLEY ON SOME OF THE

23:33 STREET IN THE NORTH END.

23:35 UM, RECENTLY WE'VE REPLACED ALL

23:37 THE STREET BARRELS IN CHINATOWN

23:40 IN MATTAPAN SQUARE.

23:41 UM, AND EVERY NEW PARK WILL

23:45 HAVE THESE NEW RODENT RESISTANT

23:47 BARRELS.

23:48 UM, IN THEIR IN THEIR SPECS THE

23:51 UH, BARREL TYPE IS IS A LESS

23:54 EXPENSIVE UM OPTION THAT WE'RE

23:58 TRYING WHERE WE CAN COVER UH,

24:01 55 GALLON DRUMS TO, UH, FULLY

24:04 ENCLOSED THE, UM.

24:06 ENCLOSED THE TRASH.

24:07 UM, AS JEFF SAID, WE'RE.

24:09 ALSO TRYING TO MEASURE THE

24:11 IMPACT OF THAT ON THE ROAD.

24:13 UM, THE RODENT PRESSURE AROUND

24:17 THE THE BARRELS.

24:21 NEXT SLIDE.

24:29 SO, UH, WE ALSO WANT TO THINK

24:31 ABOUT RATS.

24:32 UH, WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING PARKS

24:34 AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT

24:36 BUILDING, UM, THIS SLIDE UH,

24:39 BELOW THE PITCHES, UH, OF A

24:41 PARK IN THE NORTH END WILLOW

24:43 PARK.

24:44 SO THE PARK WAS DESIGNED AND

24:47 HAD SOME ISSUES, UM, WHERE

24:50 THERE WAS SOME INITIAL RODENT

24:54 RESISTANCE, UH, THOUGHT INTO

24:56 THE DESIGN.

24:56 BUT RATS ARE REALLY CLEVER AND

24:59 ,UH, FOUND SOME SOME REAL

25:01 VULNERABILITIES WITH THIS.

25:02 AND SO, UM, WE HAD TO GO BACK

25:05 AND THINK ABOUT THE DESIGN AND

25:06 HOW WE COULD KEEP RATS OUT.

25:09 AND SO WE WENT BACK REMOVED THE

25:11 DECKING.

25:12 UH, THERE WAS A VOID BETWEEN

25:13 THE DECKING IN THE GROUND WHERE

25:14 RATS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AND SO

25:17 AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON SOME

25:19 OF THE PICTURES IN THE BELOW,

25:21 UM, THE TREE PITS, UH, USE THIS

25:23 UH, RESIN UH, PRODUCT WHERE

25:26 WATER CAN GET THROUGH IT

25:27 DOESN'T AFFECT THE UH, TREES.

25:29 UM, WE ALSO FILLED THE VOID

25:31 BENEATH THE DECKING.

25:33 UM, MOVING FORWARD, WE, UH I

25:36 MYSELF MEET WITH THE PARKS TEAM

25:38 AS THEY DESIGN PARKS.

25:39 THERE WAS ONE RECENTLY IN EAST

25:42 BOSTON WHERE WE LOOK AT THE

25:43 DESIGN AND UH, IF WE THINK

25:45 ABOUT RATS IN IN THE DESIGN

25:49 PHASE IT REALLY DOESN'T ADD UM

25:52 ANY COST UM OR SIGNIFICANT COST

25:54 TO THE TO THE PRODUCT.

25:56 SO UM WE ALSO UH, WORK WITH

25:59 PUBLIC FACILITIES TO ADD RODENT

26:02 UM RECOMMENDATIONS RODENT

26:03 RESISTANCE IN THE DESIGN

26:05 STANDARDS.

26:06 UH, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT

26:08 UM ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS

26:09 THAT THAT RECEIVED THOSE UM

26:12 CHANGES WAS THE LIBRARY IN

26:14 EGGLESTON SQUARE.

26:16 UM, AND MOVING FORWARD WE'RE

26:17 GOING TO WORK ON A DOCUMENT FOR

26:20 UM FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES THE

26:22 PARKS AND SEWER DESIGN.

26:24 UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT RODENT

26:27 RESISTANCE IS BUILT INTO THE

26:29 DESIGN STANDARDS.

26:31 OKAY.

26:31 I'M GOING TO TURN IT.

26:32 OVER TO JOSH TO, UH, TALK

26:34 ABOUT HOUSING.

26:35 GOOD MORNING COUNCIL.

26:36 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

26:38 TO SPEAK, UH, ABOUT THE

26:41 BUTCHER'S ENTHUSIASTIC

26:42 PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BRAP UH,

26:44 ALONG WITH OTHER 20 PLUS SISTER

26:47 AGENCIES.

26:48 UH, THE BOSTON HOUSING

26:49 AUTHORITY, FOR ITS PART, HAS

26:52 DEDICATED A RODENT REDUCTION

26:53 TEAM, UH.

26:54 FULL TIME TO THE TREATMENT OF,

26:56 UH, RATS AND OTHER ROAD AND

26:58 PESTS.

26:59 UH, THAT'S NOW FOUR FULL TIME

27:01 STAFF WHO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK.

27:04 UM, TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE

27:05 RATS HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK.

27:07 UH, IDENTIFYING BURROWS AND,

27:11 UM, FULL TIME TREATMENT

27:13 BASICALLY 365 DAYS A YEAR.

27:15 THIS IS, UM, REALLY ENHANCED

27:18 SERVICE DELIVERY.

27:19 MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH,

27:20 PREVIOUSLY WE WOULD RELY ON OUR

27:23 IPM, UM, PEST CONTROL PARTNERS

27:25 TO TO SORT OF HANDLE THE JOB

27:27 FOR US.

27:28 AND NOW IF WE GET A RESIDENT

27:30 COMPLAIN TO 311 COMPLAINT OR

27:34 ANY FORM REALLY A COMPLAINT

27:35 COMES IN ABOUT BURROWS OR RAT

27:37 SIGHTINGS.

27:38 UH, WE HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM

27:40 THAT GOES OUT THERE AND AGAIN

27:41 TAKES THE FIGHT TO THEM.

27:43 UH, ADMINISTRATIVE BLOCK UH, IN

27:46 THE LAST BARGAINING CONTRACT

27:47 WITH THE LABORERS OFFERED AN

27:50 ENHANCED SALARY UM, FOR ANYONE

27:52 WHO GETS THEIR PESTICIDE

27:54 LICENSE.

27:54 UH, AND THAT'S WHETHER OR NOT

27:56 YOU USE THE LICENSE.

27:57 SO THE BAR IS ENCOURAGING ALL

27:59 OF ITS STAFF TO BECOME EDUCATED

28:01 AND EXPERIENCED IN, UM IN ROAD

28:04 REDUCTION AS WELL.

28:05 AND UM, YOU KNOW, ON NEXT SLIDE

28:08 I THINK AND UH, SOME UH SOME

28:12 OF THE SORT OF UH MODERN THINGS

28:15 WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AND I KNOW

28:16 THAT UM THAT THROUGH THE UH.

28:19 WHAT WAS IT THE UH,

28:22 PARTICIPATORY BUDGET IN YOUR

28:23 DISTRICT COUNCIL OF BREED AND

28:25 WE ARE, UM, WORKING ON A VERY

28:28 NEW PILOT PROGRAM AT OUR

28:30 COMMONWEALTH SITE.

28:31 THAT'S REALLY A HOLISTIC

28:33 APPROACH TO IT.

28:34 UH, INVOLVES CONTAINERIZATION,

28:37 EDUCATION OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE

28:38 DEFINITELY PARTNERS IN THIS

28:39 FIGHT AND, UH, SORT OF MORE

28:42 PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT.

28:44 UM.

28:45 WITH RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE WE

28:47 CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND FROM OUR

28:49 PARTICIPATION IN THE RAP THAT

28:51 WE CAN'T EXTERMINATE THIS

28:52 PROBLEM AWAY AND THAT WE HAVE

28:54 TO WE HAVE TO TAKE A SORT OF A

28:57 AGAIN, A HOLISTIC APPROACH

28:58 AROUND THAT AND THAT'S WHAT

28:59 WE'RE DOING.

29:00 UM, WE STARTED WITH NEW

29:02 CONTAINERS THAT ARE RODENT

29:06 PROOF TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S

29:08 POSSIBLE.

29:10 UM, COMMERCIAL LEVEL HAULING TO

29:12 BASICALLY KEEP THE PADS AND

29:14 AREAS CLEAN UM IN BETWEEN

29:17 PICKUPS AND ALSO WHERE WE'RE

29:20 ROLLING OUT UH, COMPOST PROGRAM

29:21 TO TRY AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A

29:24 NUMBER OF REASONS WHY THERE IS

29:25 INTEREST IN THAT.

29:26 BUT AS IT RELATES TO RODENTS,

29:28 IF YOU TAKE THE FOOD AWAY FROM

29:29 THE WASTE STREAM, OF COURSE

29:31 THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A DRAMATIC

29:32 IMPACT.

29:33 THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO

29:34 SHARE.

29:35 I'LL TURN.

29:35 IT BACK TO LUKE.

29:36 THANK YOU.

29:37 COUNCIL WE JUST.

29:37 HAVE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES IF

29:38 THAT'S OKAY.

29:39 WE'LL BE VERY QUICK.

29:40 I PROMISE.

29:41 UM, SO JUST WANT TO.

29:42 HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE.

29:43 BIT OF THE WORK OF BOSTON

29:44 WATER AND SEWER BECAUSE THEY'RE

29:45 ANOTHER CRITICAL PARTNER UM, TO

29:46 US IN THIS WORK.

29:47 AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT

29:48 BOSTON WATER AND SEWER HAS BEEN

29:49 PILOTING IS, UM, REALLY BETTER

29:52 UNDERSTANDING WHAT SUBSURFACE

29:53 RODENT POPULATION IS.

29:54 AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH

29:56 THEM ON DEPLOYING UH, SEWER

29:57 TRAPS AS WELL AS SEWER SENSORS

29:59 ACROSS VARIOUS RAT VULNERABLE

30:01 SEWERS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE

30:03 CITY.

30:04 AND SO A RAT VULNERABLE SEWER

30:05 IS A SEWER THAT IS 14FT IN

30:07 DIAMETER, LOW FLOW AND MADE

30:09 OF BRICK.

30:10 UH, AND SO WE HAVE SOME

30:11 OF THESE SEWER SYSTEMS IN KEY

30:12 AREAS SUCH AS THE NORTH END

30:14 CHINATOWN, SOUTH BOSTON AREAS

30:16 OF THE CITY WITH OLDER

30:17 INFRASTRUCTURE.

30:18 AND SO WE'VE DEPLOYED UH OVER

30:20 25 SEWER TRAPS IN THE NORTH END

30:21 AND IN THE BACK BAY WHICH

30:23 HELPED US NOT ONLY MITIGATE

30:24 RATS BUT ALSO COLLECT VALUABLE

30:26 DATA POINTS AROUND WHERE WE'RE

30:27 SEEING THESE HIGH POPULATIONS

30:29 TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND

30:30 SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FINDINGS

30:31 AROUND THOSE RAT VULNERABLE

30:33 SEWERS AND HOW POPULATIONS

30:34 THRIVE THERE.

30:35 AND SO IN THE COMING WEEKS, UH,

30:36 IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE

30:37 SEWER TRAPS AND SENSORS WE

30:39 ALREADY HAVE DEPLOYED, WE'RE

30:40 WORKING WITH BASIS AI, AS JEFF

30:42 MENTIONED TO DEPLOY SOME

30:43 OF THEIR AUDIO DEVICES IN KEY

30:45 AREAS SUCH AS THE NORTH END AND

30:47 IN SOUTH BOSTON WHERE WE HAVE

30:49 SOME OF THESE RAT VULNERABLE

30:50 SEWERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND

30:51 THAT RODENT POPULATION AND HELP

30:53 US ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW RODENT

30:55 POPULATION CHANGES WITH THE

30:57 VARYING SEASONS.

30:57 RIGHT.

30:58 SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE

30:59 COLDER MONTHS WE THINK RODENT

31:01 POPULATIONS GO SUBSURFACE WHERE

31:02 IT'S A LITTLE BIT WARMER.

31:03 AND SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS

31:04 DEVICE TO HELP US KIND

31:05 OF BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT

31:06 HYPOTHESES THAT WE HAVE.

31:07 THANK YOU.

31:08 AND UM FINALLY JUST WANT TO

31:09 HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WORK THAT

31:11 COUNCILOR BREADON MENTIONED

31:11 AROUND THE NATIONAL UH, URBAN

31:13 RAT SUMMIT.

31:13 SO WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL THAT

31:15 UH, MANY OF THE WORLD LEADERS,

31:17 UH, IN THIS INDUSTRY LOOK TO

31:18 BOSTON, UM, TO HOST THE

31:20 NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT BECAUSE

31:21 OF THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'VE

31:22 BEEN DOING HERE.

31:22 AND SO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE

31:24 NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT WAS UH, ON

31:26 THE 23RD AND 24TH OF SEPTEMBER

31:28 WE HAD OVER 100 DIFFERENT UH,

31:30 ACADEMICS CITIES, PEST

31:32 PROFESSIONALS COME TO BOSTON

31:33 AND REALLY SHARE SOME OF THE

31:35 DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND

31:36 SOLUTIONS THAT ARE NEW AND UP

31:37 AND COMING.

31:38 UH, AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY

31:39 FOR US TO SHARE WHAT WE'VE BEEN

31:40 DOING AND ALSO LEARN AS WE

31:41 CONTINUE TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT

31:43 PHASE.

31:43 SO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE

31:45 AND I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE

31:46 JUST TO SOME OF THE KEY

31:47 TAKEAWAYS OF THE THINGS THAT WE

31:48 WANT TO FOCUS ON FROM THE

31:50 THINGS THAT WE HEARD AT THE

31:51 SUMMIT.

31:52 AND JUST FINALLY THE LAST SLIDE

31:53 HERE IS UM, LETTING FOLKS KNOW

31:55 THAT, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION AND

31:57 MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS KNOW

31:58 HOW THEY CAN HELP US PREVENT

31:59 RODENT ACTIVITY IS REALLY

32:00 IMPORTANT.

32:01 SO WE HAVE ALL OF THESE

32:02 DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND

32:03 SOLUTIONS ON OUR WEBSITE

32:06 BOSTON.GOV/RATS.

32:06 WE ALSO HAVE AN EMAIL WHICH IS

32:09 RATS@BOSTON.GOV.

32:09 WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO REACH

32:10 OUT TO US.

32:11 WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM

32:13 PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME

32:14 SOLUTIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS

32:15 SLIDE FOR HOW THEY CAN PREVENT

32:16 RODENT ACTIVITY IN THEIR THEIR

32:18 YARD OR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD.

32:20 UH AND IF YOU SEE RODENT

32:21 ACTIVITY WE JUST ENCOURAGE

32:22 RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT THIS TO

32:24 311.

32:24 JOHN AND HIS TEAM HAVE A

32:25 RESPONSE RATE OF 24 TO 48

32:27 HOURS.

32:27 AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

32:28 THAT WE'RE RESPONSIVE EDUCATING

32:30 RESIDENTS AND REALLY TRYING TO

32:31 ACHIEVE THE ULTIMATE GOAL

32:31 OF BRAP, WHICH IS TO DRIVE DOWN

32:33 RODENT POPULATION AND IMPROVE.

32:34 THE.

32:35 QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL

32:36 RESIDENTS.

32:37 THANK YOU.

32:37 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

32:38 AND THANK YOU.

32:40 YOU REQUESTED 12 MINUTES

32:42 INITIALLY I LET YOU GO OVER

32:45 SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER.

32:46 UM.

32:49 I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO YOU

32:52 BUT I'M THE CHAIR OF THE

32:53 COMMITTEE.

32:54 WE APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME.

32:57 I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO TO

32:59 PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON ZOOM.

33:03 LET ME START WITH AND I DON'T

33:05 LIKE TO CUT PEOPLE OFF.

33:08 UH, WE'RE ALSO UM, JOINED BY

33:11 CITY COUNCILOR DURKAN.

33:13 WE'RE JOINED BY CITY

33:15 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

33:16 UM.

33:20 OH, I WANT TO GO TO BONNIE AND

33:24 GIVE BONNIE AN OPPORTUNITY TO,

33:27 UM, PROVIDE PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

33:33 UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE.

33:35 EACH PERSON THAT TESTIFIES TWO

33:37 MINUTES, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO

33:38 CUT PEOPLE OFF WHETHER IT'S THE

33:42 PUBLIC OR MY CITY

33:43 COUNCIL COLLEAGUES OR THE

33:45 ADMINISTRATION.

33:46 UM, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A GRACE

33:47 PERIOD BUT UM, PLEASE TRY TO

33:50 RESPECT THE TWO MINUTES.

33:51 UH, BONNIE YOU'RE UP PLEASE.

33:53 YES.

33:54 HELLO?

33:54 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

33:55 YES WE CAN.

33:56 BONNIE.

33:56 WELCOME.

33:56 YES.

33:57 YEAH.

33:58 THANK YOU.

33:58 UM, COUNCILOR I MET TWO TWO

33:59 NIGHTS AGO.

34:00 UM, ON THE WALK ON COME OUT

34:02 OF UM.

34:02 SO I'M BONNIE WEISS, UM,

34:04 PROPERTY OWNER, UH, AT 58

34:07 COMMONWEALTH AVENUE AND MY

34:08 HUSBAND AND I OWNED THE

34:09 BROWNSTONE.

34:10 UM, SO AFTER 15 YEARS OF LIVING

34:14 HERE, MY MY HUMBLE OBSERVATIONS

34:15 ARE THAT AS LONG AS THE TRASH

34:19 COLLECTION REMAINS THE SAME, WE

34:21 WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE RATS.

34:22 UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT ALL

34:25 OF OUR GARBAGE OUT IN PLASTIC

34:27 BAGS.

34:28 THE, UM THE BAGS GET RIPPED.

34:30 THEY FALL INTO THE, UH ONTO THE

34:33 DRIVE AREA.

34:33 CARS RUN OVER THEM.

34:35 THERE'S SHARDS OF GLASS.

34:37 UM, AND IT HAPPENS EVERY WEEK.

34:40 UM, SO ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE

34:41 THAT HAPPENS ON THE OPPOSITE

34:43 SIDE WHICH IS THE REAR OF THE

34:45 NEW OF NEWBURY STREET.

34:47 UM, BETWEEN BERKELEY AND

34:49 CLARENDON STREETS.

34:49 FLOOD OF UM FOOD UM COMMERCIAL

34:53 IT'S UM BUSINESSES THERE.

34:56 PLUS THERE'S THE CHURCH OF THE

34:57 COVENANT WE'RE AT DIRECTLY

34:59 BEHIND IT AND WE HAVE ROSIE'S

35:00 PLACE THE VEST, THE UM

35:05 CONTAINERS THAT THEY USE ARE

35:06 OFTEN OVERFLOWING.

35:08 ONE ACTUALLY FELL INTO THE ROAD

35:09 THE OTHER DAY AS I WAS DRIVING

35:11 AND A LOT OF FOOD SPILLED OUT

35:13 AND I SAID TO THE PERSON FROM

35:15 THE UM AND THE RESTAURANT I

35:17 SAID, ARE YOU GOING TO PICK

35:18 THIS UP?

35:19 I NEED TO DRIVE BY.

35:20 AND HE HE KIND OF LAUGHED AND

35:21 THEN HE PUSHED IT BACK INTO

35:23 PLACE.

35:23 UM, SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A

35:26 CHRONIC PROBLEM BECAUSE AS LONG

35:28 AS UM THE PLASTIC BAGS ARE OUT

35:30 THERE AND THE RATS CAN CHEW

35:32 INTO THEM.

35:33 WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO LOOK

35:35 FOR CANS AND THEY SOMETIMES

35:36 DISRUPT THE BAGS AND DON'T PUT

35:38 THEM BACK WHERE THEY NEED TO

35:39 BE.

35:39 THERE'S WHEN THERE'S VEHICLES

35:41 IT'S JUST A CHRONIC PROBLEM.

35:43 I SAY RODENTS DURING THE DAY

35:46 AND IT'S VERY TROUBLING.

35:48 SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY UH

35:50 TESTIMONY.

35:52 BONNIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR

35:53 TESTIMONY.

35:54 VERY HELPFUL.

35:54 WE APPRECIATE IT.

35:56 COULD I GO.

35:57 TO UM THE INITIAL DE THAT IS

36:02 TESTIFYING?

36:07 DE.

36:10 OKAY.

36:12 DE EUROPE.

36:13 GOOD MORNING SIR.

36:15 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

36:16 YES WE CAN.

36:17 OKAY.

36:18 UH, ONE.

36:19 THING THAT I'VE HEARD

36:20 THROUGHOUT THIS TESTIMONY IS

36:21 THAT IT'S.

36:21 TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY OWNERS,

36:22 BUT YET THE CITY, UM, HAS

36:24 PROPERTY THAT IS IT MAINTAINED.

36:26 UH, EITHER DIRECTLY THAT THEY

36:28 OWN OR UM, THINGS THAT THEY

36:31 SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTACT WHO

36:32 OWNS THEM.

36:33 UH.

36:34 ONE MAJOR ISSUE IS BAYSWATER

36:35 RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CITY

36:37 OF BOSTON SENIOR CENTER.

36:38 UM, FOUR MONTHS AGO I OPENED UP

36:40 TWO CASES.

36:40 THE FIRST ONE WAS CLOSED OUT

36:41 AND THE TRANSITIONS.

36:42 THE SECOND ONE, WHICH I OPENED

36:44 A WEEK LATER WAS NOTED AS

36:46 DUPLICATES DUPLICATED.

36:47 WHEN I OPENED UP CASES TWO

36:49 WEEKS TWO MONTHS AGO AGAIN FOR

36:51 THE SAME LOCATION, THE FIRST

36:52 ONE WAS LABELED AS.

36:54 TRANSITIONED AND NOT CITY

36:55 PROPERTY.

36:56 THE SECOND ONE WAS THEN

36:58 TRANSITIONED AND CALLED JOE

36:59 RIDGE AREA.

37:00 GEORGE ARAUJO IS A PRIVATE

37:02 INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNS A FUNERAL

37:03 HOME AROUND THE CORNER.

37:04 THIS IS THE HEROES SQUARE UH AT

37:08 BAYSWATER AND SARATOGA WHICH

37:09 WAS LEFT ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING

37:12 RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SENIOR

37:13 CENTER.

37:14 SO UM, OUR CITY COUNCILOR WAS

37:16 THERE SO ALL THE TRASH PILED

37:18 PUBLIC WORKS IS DRIVING BY IT.

37:20 YOU KNOW, IT'S A CITY PROPERTY

37:21 AND THERE'S THIS TRASH PILE

37:23 ACROSS THE STREET AND IT SAT

37:24 THERE FOR A MONTH.

37:27 UM, ALSO AT THE SAME TIME ON

37:29 THE END OF UH, BAYSWATER AND A

37:32 BOY ON AUGUST 4TH THERE WAS A

37:33 BODY FOUND IN THE WATER.

37:35 UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE

37:36 NEWS PHOTOS YOU WILL SEE THE

37:38 TRASH PILE THERE ON AUGUST 5TH.

37:40 COUNCILOR COLLETTA UH, ZAPATA

37:42 DID HER ROAD WALK THROUGH

37:43 PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SAME PILE TWO

37:46 WEEKS LATER I OPENED UP A CASE.

37:48 IT SAID CLOSED WHILE IT WAS

37:50 STILL THERE.

37:52 I OPENED UP ANOTHER CASE AND

37:54 THAT CASE IS STILL OPEN AFTER

37:57 TWO MONTHS.

37:58 I SAT THERE AND TOOK IT UPON

38:00 MYSELF AND CALLED MASSPORT AND

38:01 GOT IT REMOVED WITHIN 45

38:03 MINUTES.

38:03 BUT TWO WEEKS AFTER OUR

38:05 COUNCILOR DID A WALK THROUGH

38:06 PHOTOGRAPH THAT TRASH PILE IT

38:08 WAS STILL SITTING AND IN

38:10 GENERAL BAYSWATER IS A PLACE

38:12 WHERE PEOPLE COME, DRINK, THROW

38:15 THEIR BOTTLES, THEY GET FAST

38:17 FOOD, THROW THEIR TRASH IN THE

38:19 BUSHES AND IT SITS THERE.

38:20 THERE WAS RECENTLY A CLEAN UP

38:22 BY BANK OF AMERICA AND I THINK

38:23 THAT'S FOR AT LEAST TWO DOZEN

38:24 TRASH BAGS.

38:26 SO NOT ONLY ARE THESE PEOPLE A

38:28 OPEN CONTAINER BE PROBABLY

38:30 DRINKING AND DRIVING, BUT

38:31 THEY'RE LITTERING AND CAUSING

38:32 THE RODENT PROBLEM.

38:33 AND THE CITY YOU KNOW CITY

38:35 DEPARTMENTS ARE SAYING

38:37 TRANSITION NOT OUR PROBLEM.

38:38 YOU KNOW POINT THE OTHER WAY

38:40 BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE

38:41 THEN THE CITY OF SPENDING MONEY

38:44 ON RODENT CONTROL INSTEAD

38:44 OF ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE

38:45 ISSUES.

38:49 UM D WHY DON'T YOU FINISH UP

38:50 YOUR COMMENT PLEASE?

38:52 UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS

38:54 IT'S YOU KNOW, THIS AREA IS A

38:56 CONSTANT PROBLEM AND OUR CITY

38:57 COUNCILOR CAME OUT HERE AND

38:58 SAID SHE WAS GOING TO DO

38:59 SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

39:00 YET NOTHING IS BEING DONE AND

39:02 THIS IS ALL JUST TRASH RIGHT

39:04 OUT IN THE OPEN AND AT THE SAME

39:06 TIME I'VE SEEN IS THE TICKET

39:07 THE DUMPSTER ACROSS THE STREET

39:09 FROM THAT TRASH PILE MULTIPLE

39:11 TIMES WITHOUT ACTUALLY PICKING

39:12 UP THAT TRASH PILE.

39:13 AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS

39:14 I'D LIKE TO ADD TO IS THAT ONE

39:16 TIME WE HAD A DEAD RODENT

39:17 DEAD UH, RABBIT.

39:18 SO FROM DPW PICKED IT UP I

39:20 ASKED HIM I SAID WHO'S IN

39:21 CHARGE OF THE SQUARE UP THERE?

39:22 HE'S LIKE, OH I SAW IT RIGHT AT

39:24 THE END.

39:24 HE'S LIKE THAT'S PARK IS PARKS

39:25 AND REC.

39:26 I'LL GO TAKE CARE OF IT.

39:27 HE DRIVES BACK AROUND FIVE

39:29 MINUTES LATER AND WAS.

39:30 TOLD TOLD US THAT HIS

39:31 SUPERVISOR AT DPW TOLD HIM NOT

39:34 TO PICK UP THAT TRASH EVEN

39:36 THOUGH IT HAD BEEN THERE FOR

39:37 WEEKS.

39:38 I UNDERSTAND.

39:39 UH.

39:39 THANK YOU'D.

39:40 THANK YOU.

39:43 I'M GOING TO.

39:44 CONTINUE WITH, UM.

39:47 I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN

39:50 BRING IN, UM, LYDIA LOWE UM, ON

39:53 ON ZOOM.

39:54 LYDIA, YOU'RE UP.

40:04 GOOD MORNING.

40:04 LYDIA.

40:09 YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE, BUT GOOD

40:11 MORNING LYDIA.

40:13 SORRY.

40:14 YEAH.

40:15 WE CAN HEAR YOU.

40:15 GO AHEAD.

40:16 LYDIA.

40:16 OKAY.

40:17 GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU

40:18 FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING.

40:19 THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE

40:21 .

40:22 UM, I'M LYDIA LOWE FROM THE,

40:25 UM, CHINATOWN COMMUNITY LAND

40:27 TRUST AND, UM, THE, UH THE

40:32 RODENT PROBLEM IS VERY SERIOUS

40:34 IN CHINATOWN.

40:35 UM, I PERSONALLY WAS PART

40:38 OF THAT METROPOLITAN BUILDING,

40:41 UM, INFESTATION, YOU KNOW, THAT

40:43 REALLY WENT ON FOR MORE THAN A

40:46 YEAR.

40:47 I WAS VERY, YOU KNOW, UH,

40:49 REALLY UNHEALTHY CONDITIONS AND

40:51 I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE USE

40:53 OF, UM, NEW TECHNOLOGY AND, YOU

40:57 KNOW, OTHER GOOD PRACTICES TO

40:58 TACKLE THE PROBLEM.

40:59 I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT,

41:01 UM, THE RAT PROBLEM.

41:03 IT'S VERY CLOSELY LINKED TO

41:05 OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS.

41:07 AND YOU KNOW, ONE ISSUE THAT'S

41:10 I THINK IMPORTANT IN CHINATOWN

41:13 IS THAT WE HAVE VERY OLD

41:15 INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DATES BACK

41:17 TO THE EARLY 1800S.

41:19 UM, SO THERE WERE LIKE YOU

41:20 KNOW, THERE WERE STREETS AND

41:21 ALLEYS THAT ARE PRIVATE WAYS

41:23 THAT HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY BEEN

41:25 SERVED BY THE CITY AND UM, YOU

41:29 KNOW AND THAT INCLUDES SOME

41:31 OF THESE YOU KNOW, THERE IS

41:32 SOME PRIVATE WAYS THAT ARE SO

41:34 SMALL THAT UM, UH THE YOU KNOW,

41:38 THERE'S NO TRASH PICK UP ON THE

41:41 STREET BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DRIVE

41:43 A TRUCK THE TRUCK DOWN THERE.

41:45 UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, TRASH

41:47 WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO THE

41:48 NEXT STREET OVER, YOU KNOW, AND

41:50 WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT, YOU

41:52 KNOW, TO, UM, GET PEOPLE TO DO

41:55 AND THEN WE HAVE SMALL, UM,

41:58 THESE SMALL OLDER HOMES, UH,

42:01 THE ROW HOUSES WHERE THERE

42:03 ISN'T REALLY A COMMON SPACE TO

42:05 STORE A TRASH CONTAINER.

42:07 SO WE WHAT WE END UP IS A LOT

42:09 OF TENANTS IN CHINATOWN LEAVING

42:11 TRASH BAGS DIRECTLY ON THE

42:13 STREET THAT ARE NOT

42:14 CONTAINERIZED AND, UM, YOU

42:17 KNOW, EDUCATION IS REALLY

42:19 IMPORTANT BUT ALSO, UM, THERE'S

42:22 A LIMIT TO WHAT EDUCATION IS

42:24 GOING TO ACCOMPLISH BECAUSE IF

42:25 THE TENANTS DON'T HAVE A TRASH

42:27 BIN UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NO

42:29 PLACE IN THEIR BUILDING, YOU

42:31 KNOW, FOR THEIR LANDLORD TO

42:33 PROVIDE IT, THEN THEY'RE GOING

42:34 TO JUST KEEP LEAVING IT ON THE

42:35 STREET.

42:36 SO I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE

42:37 ISSUES NEED LIKE BIGGER

42:40 SOLUTIONS LIKE THE TRASH, YOU

42:41 KNOW, THINKING ABOUT TRASH

42:43 CONTAINERIZATION.

42:44 YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE CITY NEEDS

42:46 TO PLAY A ROLE IN PARTICULAR

42:48 NEIGHBORHOODS OR SPOTS LIKE

42:50 CHINATOWN WHERE YOU KNOW YOU

42:51 HAVE TRASH CONTAINERS THAT

42:53 COULD BE OWNED BY THE CITY THAT

42:55 ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO

42:57 PUT.

42:58 THEIR TRASH INTO.

42:59 UM, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE

43:01 CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM.

43:03 OUR PROPERTY ONE OF OUR

43:04 PROPERTIES IS SORT OF LIKE.

43:06 THE.

43:06 TRASH DUMPING AREA.

43:07 UM, FOR OUR PART OF THE

43:09 NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW, THE

43:12 OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO

43:13 RAISE IS THAT I THINK WE ALSO

43:14 NEED TO CRACK DOWN ON ABANDONED

43:17 BUILDINGS BECAUSE THERE ARE

43:18 THESE BUILDINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW

43:21 ,OWNERS ARE JUST SITTING ON

43:23 THEM.

43:24 UM, AND YOU KNOW, NOT DOING

43:26 ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY FOR

43:28 LIKE TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS AND

43:32 THE RODENTS RUN FREE AND THEY

43:33 MAKE THEIR NESTS IN THESE

43:35 YARDS.

43:36 SO I FEEL LIKE IF THE CITY CAN

43:38 CRACK DOWN ON THESE, YOU KNOW,

43:40 ABSENTEE LANDLORDS WHO ARE

43:41 DOING NOTHING BUT SITTING ON

43:43 THEIR PROPERTY FOR SPECULATIVE

43:45 REASONS, UM, THAT WOULD HELP

43:47 THE SITUATION ALSO.

43:48 THANK YOU.

43:49 THANK YOU LYDIA.

43:50 THANK YOU FOR THE IMPORTANT

43:51 WORK YOU ARE DOING IN CHINATOWN

43:53 .

43:54 UM GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

43:56 AND I KNOW WE DO HAVE AN

43:58 ABANDONED BUILDING RIGHT NEXT

44:00 TO THE CHINATOWN GATE.

44:02 UM, THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR

44:05 ALL OF US.

44:06 THANK YOU.

44:07 LYDIA.

44:07 I'M GOING TO GO TO ONE MORE

44:09 PUBLIC.

44:09 I'M GOING TO GO TO ONE MORE,

44:11 UM, VIRTUAL TESTIMONY AND I'M

44:13 GOING TO THEN I'M GOING TO TRY

44:14 TO DO SOME IN-PERSON TESTIMONY

44:16 .

44:16 I'M GOING TO TRY TO BALANCE IT

44:18 A LITTLE BIT.

44:18 UM, KERRY ON ZOOM YOU'RE UP.

44:23 GOOD MORNING HARRY.

45:06 AND IN THE MEANTIME I'M GOING

45:07 TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE START

45:09 COMING DOWN TO THE, UM TO THE

45:13 MICROPHONE.

45:13 UM.

45:15 HARRY, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT,

45:17 UM.

45:18 TO BE PROMOTED TO THE PANEL

45:21 PLEASE.

45:22 BUT IN THE MEANTIME, COULD I

45:23 ASK THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE TO

45:25 COME DOWN, MAYBE LINE UP IN

45:27 BOTH MICROPHONES?

45:30 I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE

45:31 RECORD I CONSIDER TO THE.

45:35 COUNCILOR JULIAN HERE UM IS

45:37 PRESENT.

45:39 COULD SUSAN PLEASE.

45:42 COME DOWN?

45:42 DAVID.

45:45 FRANK.

45:46 JOSE AND ALLIE MAYBE TO TO ON

45:50 EACH SIDE.

45:51 HARRY GO AHEAD PLEASE.

45:58 YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE BUT GO

46:00 AHEAD HARRY.

46:14 WELL IN THE MEANTIME SUSAN, WHY

46:15 DON'T YOU GO AHEAD PLEASE?

46:17 GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.

46:18 MY NAME IS SUSAN BUTA I LIVE AT

46:21 NINE KNOX STREET IN BOSTON AND

46:23 I HOLD THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS

46:25 SEAT AT THE BAY VILLAGE

46:26 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.

46:28 FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK

46:30 COUNCILOR FLYNN AND ALL THE

46:31 CITY COUNCILORS THAT ARE HERE.

46:32 WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR

46:33 ATTENDANCE AND ESPECIALLY TO

46:35 CITY SERVICES UM, WHO REALLY DO

46:37 TRY AND SEEM GENERALLY

46:39 CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROBLEM.

46:40 WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO

46:42 THOUGH.

46:43 SO BAY VILLAGE IS OLD.

46:44 WE DON'T HAVE ALLEYS.

46:46 WE DON'T HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE.

46:47 OUR TRASH IS PUT ON THE STREETS

46:50 AND WE SEE RATS SCURRYING EVERY

46:52 DAY.

46:53 IT WAS EVEN FUNNY.

46:54 AT OUR BLOCK PARTY WE SAW RATS

46:56 OUT AND THERE WERE 120 PEOPLE

46:58 ON THE STREET AND YET THEY WERE

46:59 STILL BOLD ENOUGH TO COME OUT.

47:01 IT'S A PROBLEM VISITORS NOTICE

47:03 IN THE CITY.

47:04 MATTER OF FACT LAST NIGHT

47:06 SOMEBODY NOTICED WHO WAS A

47:08 VISITOR FROM CHICAGO AND SAID

47:10 OH WE SAW A RAT.

47:11 I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO THIS

47:12 HEARING.

47:13 THE ONLY ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM

47:16 IS TO REDUCE AND CUT THE FOOD

47:18 SOURCE AS WE'VE HEARD.

47:21 UM, EXCEPT FOR WE HAVE TO PUT

47:25 OUT OUR OUR TRASH THE NIGHT

47:28 BEFORE AT 5 P.M. GARBAGE CAN GO

47:30 OUT UNTIL 6 A.M. THE TO THE

47:34 NEXT MORNING SO THE BRATS HAVE

47:37 AN ENTIRE NIGHT TO FEAST.

47:39 NOW WHY DON'T WE PUT OUR TRASH

47:41 OUT IN THE MORNING?

47:41 IT'S BECAUSE OUR TRASH HAS TO

47:43 BE UP BY 6 A.M. IN THE PREVIOUS

47:47 CONTRACT THAT WAS WASTE

47:48 MANAGEMENT.

47:48 WE HAD TO PUT OUT OUR TRASH AT

47:52 7 A.M. AND THAT MADE A

47:53 DIFFERENCE.

47:54 PEOPLE WERE UP.

47:54 THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO WORK.

47:56 THEY PUT THEIR TRASH OUT IN THE

47:57 MORNING.

47:58 IT DIDN'T STOP THE WHOLE

47:59 PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S A HECK

48:00 OF A LOT MORE TRASH WITH THE 6

48:02 A.M. PICKUP BECAUSE PEOPLE

48:04 AREN'T GOING TO GET UP AT 5

48:05 A.M. TO PUT THEIR TRASH OUT.

48:07 WE ALSO HAVE VANDALISM.

48:08 YES, CANS AND BOTTLES ARE CUT

48:10 OFF AND UH PUT IN THEIR TRASH

48:13 INSTEAD OF RECYCLING.

48:15 AND HONESTLY THAT'S ON US AS A

48:16 NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO TO DO A LOT

48:18 MORE EDUCATION AND WE ARE

48:19 COMMITTED TO THAT.

48:20 BUT WHAT ABOUT THE VANDALS THAT

48:23 WENT DOWN FAYETTE STREET LAST

48:25 WEEK AND OPENED EVERY BIT

48:27 OF TRASH AND STARTED DUMPING IT

48:28 OUT?

48:29 HOW DO WE FIGHT THAT?

48:32 UM THE THE NEXT THING THE THIRD

48:34 THING I'D LIKE TO BRING OUT IS

48:36 THE GARBAGE TO GARDEN

48:38 EXPANSION.

48:39 IT IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA.

48:42 I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN GARBAGE

48:43 TO GARDEN SINCE I GOT ONE

48:45 OF THE FIRST BINS, AND I HAVE

48:47 BEEN RELIGIOUS ABOUT PUTTING

48:48 ALL MY FOOD SCRAPS OUT THERE.

48:51 UM THE EXPANSION IS A GREAT

48:53 IDEA BUT IT IS MISPLACED RIGHT

48:54 NOW.

48:55 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD NOT

48:57 HAVE TO BEAR THE STREET TRASH

48:59 PICKUP AND REDUCED FOOD

49:01 EXPANSION PICKUP.

49:03 SO RIGHT NOW WELL WE USED TO

49:05 HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST BIWEEKLY

49:07 PICKUP.

49:08 I MEAN I'M SORRY WEEKLY PICKUP

49:10 NOW IT IS CHANGED TO EVERY TWO

49:13 WEEKS.

49:13 THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM

49:16 AND WILL ENHANCE RAT AND UM,

49:18 UH, RABBIT INFESTATION BECAUSE

49:20 I CAN'T MISS A PICKUP.

49:23 IF I MISS ONE THEN IT'S A MONTH

49:26 BEFORE MY TRASH IS PICKED UP

49:30 EVEN IN THE SUMMER, EVEN

49:32 MISSING ONE WEEKLY PICKUP MEANT

49:35 THAT I HAD TO REMOVE HUNDREDS

49:36 OF FRUIT FLY LARVAE FROM MY

49:38 BIN.

49:39 YOU KNOW THE LITTLE EGG CASES

49:40 AND STUFF THEY WEREN'T QUITE

49:41 HATCH BUT IF I MISS ONE IT'S A

49:44 PROBLEM.

49:45 IF I HAD IF I MISSED ONE OF THE

49:48 EVERY OTHER WEEK PICKUPS.

49:50 NOW WE'RE TALKING THAT I HAVE A

49:52 FULL INFESTATION AND THAT'S I'M

49:54 NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO

49:55 TOLERATE THAT OR I KNOW I CAN

49:58 PAY FOR ONE MORE PICKUP BUT I

49:59 PAY TENS OF THOUSANDS

50:01 OF DOLLARS IN TAXES.

50:03 I'M DOING MY PART TO REDUCE MY

50:05 TRASH.

50:06 I AM RECYCLING VIGOROUSLY.

50:08 I AM DOING THE FOOD PROGRAM AND

50:10 NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PAY

50:11 MORE.

50:12 UH, IN A PLACE WHERE I HAVE TO

50:14 PUT MY FOOD ON THE STREET.

50:16 I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD

50:17 IDEA.

50:20 SO WE DO NEED TO EXPAND

50:22 STRATEGICALLY, ESPECIALLY IN

50:23 THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE TO

50:24 PUT THEIR TRASH ON THE STREET.

50:26 WE WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING.

50:28 WE ARE COMMITTED.

50:29 BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST I CAN'T

50:33 LEAVE THAT FOOD FOR A MONTH IN

50:35 MY BINS AND UM MY NEIGHBORS

50:37 DOES SING GREETINGS UM TO YOU

50:39 ALL.

50:39 UM, FOR OUR CURRENT RODENT

50:42 PRACTICES WHICH ALTHOUGH

50:43 THEY'RE TRYING IT'S NOT GOOD

50:45 ENOUGH.

50:45 HE HAD A LOVELY TIME CLEANING

50:47 OUT IN 90 DEGREE TEMPERATURES A

50:49 DEAD RAT FROM HIS BACKYARD AND

50:51 DIDN'T REALLY THINK HE THOUGHT

50:52 YOU SHOULD KNOW.

50:53 ALL RIGHT.

50:54 THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I

50:56 APPRECIATE EVERYBODY.

50:57 THANK YOU SUSAN.

50:58 I DO WANT TO GO TO HARRY ONE

51:00 LAST TIME.

51:00 UM, BEFORE.

51:01 WE CONTINUE WITH, UM, IN PERSON

51:03 TESTIMONY.

51:04 HARRY.

51:05 OKAY.

51:06 THANK YOU.

51:07 CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

51:08 YES WE CAN.

51:08 GOOD MORNING.

51:09 THANK YOU.

51:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

51:11 I'LL BE QUICK BECAUSE I THINK A

51:13 MAJOR PROBLEM I SEE IN THIS

51:15 NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE THE

51:16 PREVIOUS ONE AND SPOKE ABOUT

51:18 PUTTING THE TRASH OUT THE NIGHT

51:19 BEFORE.

51:20 THEY HAVE A BANQUET THERE THE

51:22 NIGHT BEFORE AND I GO BY NIGHT

51:24 AND I SEE THE RATS JUST GOING

51:26 INTO ALL THE TRASH CONTAINERS.

51:28 WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO PICKING

51:30 UP LEAVE TO TELLING PEOPLE TO

51:33 PUT THE TRASH OUT TO HAVE A

51:34 CITY CHANGE THAT POLICY TO PUT

51:36 THE TRASH UP THE MORNING OR

51:38 BECAUSE I TRASH GETS PICKED UP

51:42 AT 1030 TO 11:00 SOMETIMES 2:00

51:43 IN THE AFTERNOON.

51:44 SO IT'S IT'S SO IT SOUNDS LIKE

51:47 A EASY FIX.

51:49 UH SO THAT'S MY BIG ISSUE AND

51:51 UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S

51:53 HELP ON THIS ISSUE.

51:54 THANK YOU.

51:57 HARRY, THANK YOU FOR.

51:58 YOUR CRITICAL LEADERSHIP AND.

52:00 UM, THE SOUTH END AND

52:01 THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL.

52:03 I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE

52:04 PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND THEN I'M

52:05 GOING TO GO BACK TO, UM TO

52:08 BEGIN THE QUESTIONING FROM MY

52:09 COLLEAGUES.

52:10 UM, DAVID.

52:11 GOOD MORNING DAVID.

52:12 THANKS, COUNSELOR.

52:13 AND FIRST OF ALL, I RECOGNIZE

52:15 THAT THIS ISSUE IS AS OLD AS

52:17 THE BOSTON HILLS, BUT I WANT

52:19 TO, UH, GIVE A LITTLE BIT

52:21 OF PERSPECTIVE IN.

52:25 DECEMBER 8TH 2022 THERE WAS A

52:26 HEARING IN THIS CHAMBER ON THIS

52:28 SUBJECT AND THE WHEREAS CLAUSES

52:30 IN THE ORDER FOR THAT MEETING

52:32 ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE

52:33 WHEREAS CLAUSES TODAY.

52:35 SO WE'RE HERE FOUR YEARS LATER

52:37 TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES

52:38 IN THE SAME WAY.

52:39 IN THE INTERIM I APPRECIATE THE

52:41 WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY THE

52:43 ACTION COMMITTEE, BUT I HAVE

52:45 TWO SUGGESTIONS TWO SIMPLE

52:47 SUGGESTIONS.

52:48 ONE IS THAT AND THIS WAS NOT

52:50 INCORPORATED IN THE ACTION

52:51 COMMITTEE.

52:53 I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE A A

52:55 RAT CZAR.

52:56 SOMEBODY NEEDS TO OWN THIS

52:58 PROBLEM.

52:58 IT HAS TO BE THE NAME AND FACE

53:00 OF THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM

53:02 WITH 20 COMMITTEES AND AGENCIES

53:04 AND DEPARTMENTS IT'S VERY

53:06 DIFFICULT AND I APPRECIATE THE

53:07 THE CHALLENGE OF COORDINATING

53:10 THE EFFORT.

53:11 I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO OWN

53:12 IT.

53:12 IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T OWN IT IT

53:14 DOESN'T GET DONE.

53:15 THE SECOND SUGGESTION IS WE

53:17 HAVE ADEQUATE UH OR AT LEAST

53:20 SOMEWHAT ADEQUATE UH, CODE UH

53:24 REGULATIONS IN THE CODE TODAY.

53:26 BUT ENFORCEMENT IS A PROBLEM

53:28 PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE

53:30 CONTAINERIZATION IS NOT

53:31 POSSIBLE.

53:32 ALL WE NEED TO DO IS ENFORCE

53:34 THE TIMING WHETHER IT'S THE

53:36 NIGHT BEFORE OR THE DAY OF.

53:39 THERE'S STILL, UM, A LOT

53:42 OF TRANSGRESSIONS OF THAT

53:43 ISSUE.

53:44 AND THEN THE SECOND ISSUE AN

53:45 EXAMPLE OF OF A CODE THAT IS

53:47 NOT ENFORCED IS SIMPLY THE

53:49 THICKNESS OF THE PLASTIC BAGS.

53:51 PEOPLE ARE USING PAPER BAGS AND

53:53 KITCHEN BAGS THAT IS EXPLICITLY

53:55 PROHIBITED IN THE CODE AND YET

53:58 UM THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT

53:59 OF THAT PROBLEM AND WHEN

54:01 THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT THERE

54:02 ISN'T SUFFICIENT COMPLIANCE.

54:04 THANKS VERY MUCH.

54:05 THAT.

54:06 THANK YOU.

54:07 DAVID.

54:08 UM.

54:11 I DO WANT TO RESPOND TO.

54:13 THE THE RATS UH, COMMENT YOU

54:15 MADE BUT OUT OF RESPECT TO, UH

54:17 ,THE PUBLIC I'LL RESPOND

54:19 LATER.

54:20 UM.

54:21 BUT, UM, I RESPECT THAT YOUR

54:23 COMMENTS.

54:24 AND AGREE.

54:25 WITH YOU.

54:25 UM.

54:28 FRANK SOUCY YES.

54:29 YEAH.

54:30 GOOD MORNING.

54:30 IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH.

54:31 YOU.

54:31 AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ALL

54:33 YOUR EFFORTS, WHICH I APPLAUD.

54:35 I THINK.

54:35 THAT THERE WAS ALL THIS VERY.

54:37 SOPHISTICATED METHODS NECESSARY

54:39 BUT AT THE SAME TIME AND I'M

54:41 HERE ON A VERY PERSONAL AND NON

54:43 CONCERNED CITIZEN BECAUSE I DO

54:44 NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM

54:45 PERSONALLY BUT UH BY THE SAME

54:48 TOKEN UH.

54:49 YOU SEE A LOT OF UH FILTH

54:53 THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND I'M NOT

54:54 TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH

54:55 CONTAINERS TALKING ABOUT

54:57 SIDEWALKS THESE RESTAURANTS

54:59 THAT HAVE SET UP THEIR.

55:01 LITTLE CAFES ON THE SIDEWALKS

55:03 JUST THE CAMBRIDGE STREET RIGHT

55:06 NEAR HERE.

55:07 UH, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO WALK

55:09 ON CAMBRIDGE STREET BECAUSE

55:10 SITTING RIGHT ACROSS FROM A

55:12 MAJOR, UH, WORLD RENOWNED

55:15 HOSPITAL YOU HAVE THIS FILTH

55:17 AND NO NO OFFENSE, BUT YOU I

55:20 WALKED INTO CITY HALL TODAY FOR

55:22 THE FIRST TIME.

55:22 THE WELCOMING CARPET OUTSIDE.

55:25 ITSELF IS FILTHY.

55:28 SO WE HAVE TO TEACH AND I THINK

55:30 CLOROX I MEAN, AT HOME I'M

55:31 CALLED MRS. CLOROX.

55:33 BUT I THINK THAT, UH, IN.

55:35 OTHER COUNTRIES YOU CLEAN

55:36 SIDEWALKS WITH CLOROX ALMOST ON

55:38 A DAILY BASIS AND ELIMINATE THE

55:41 GREASE ACCUMULATION.

55:43 AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE.

55:44 ALSO ONE OF THE METHODS.

55:46 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

55:48 THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH.

55:49 WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY CITY

55:51 COUNCIL I WOULD SAY LOUIJEUNE.

55:54 UM AND FINALLY UM ALI GOOD

55:56 MORNING ALI.

55:57 GOOD MORNING.

55:57 THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS UH,

56:00 IMPORTANT INITIATIVE.

56:02 I TOO WAS AND PRESENT AT THE

56:05 2022, UH, PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

56:07 I'VE ALSO COLLABORATED VERY

56:09 CLOSELY WITH LUKE AND JOHN

56:11 ULRICH.

56:11 UM, AND THE BOSTON RED ACTION

56:14 UM TEAM.

56:15 UM, SO WROTE AN ACTION PLAN

56:18 TEAM.

56:18 SO, UM, I ALSO SIT ON A

56:20 NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD IN BACK BAY.

56:21 ALTHOUGH MY OPINIONS HERE

56:25 EXPLICITLY UM, AS A RESIDENT

56:27 PERSPECTIVE UM AND I'M HAPPY TO

56:29 HEAR UM I SEE A COUPLE OF THE

56:32 REMOTE PEOPLE WERE UM TESTIMONY

56:35 FROM MY AREA.

56:36 THEY ARE BLOCK CAPTAINS.

56:38 WE RUN A VERY LARGE BLOCK

56:40 CAPTAIN PROGRAM IN BACK BAY,

56:41 PROBABLY THE LARGEST IN THE

56:43 CITY AND ONE OF THE LARGEST ON

56:45 THE EAST COAST.

56:47 UM, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT

56:49 HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY

56:50 ATTENTION, UM, ARE DAMAGES TO

56:54 AUTOMOBILES.

56:55 WE ARE HAVING AN INCREASED

56:56 AMOUNT OF CAR WIRING BEING

56:59 EATEN CHEWED THROUGH BY RATS

57:01 AND WE'VE DONE A LOT

57:02 OF EDUCATION TO GET PEOPLE TO

57:04 MOVE THEIR CARS MORE REGULARLY

57:06 UM, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SITTING

57:07 STAGNANT AND EXPERIENCING THOSE

57:10 CATASTROPHIC UH, DAMAGES.

57:12 SO AND UPWARDS OF THIS WEEK,

57:14 UH, ONE OF THE BLOCK CAPTAINS

57:16 THEMSELVES HAD $6,000

57:18 OF DAMAGES TO THEIR VEHICLE AND

57:21 NOT ALL INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE

57:22 COVERING FOR THE REPAIRS

57:24 OF THIS.

57:25 I DO ADVOCATE AND I WOULD

57:27 IMPLORE THE BOSTON RAT ROAD

57:29 RODENT ACTION COMMITTEE TO

57:32 REALLY LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET

57:34 TO SAME DAY PUT OUT OF GARBAGE

57:37 .

57:38 UM I HAVE READ AND SEEN

57:40 SUCCESSES IN NEW YORK AND LA

57:43 AND ARIZONA.

57:45 WHEN YOU MOVE THE TRASH

57:46 PLACEMENT TIME TO THE SAME DAY

57:49 OF PICK UP THE RAT POPULATION

57:52 DRAMATICALLY DECREASES.

57:53 I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME

57:55 CONSTRAINTS WITH THAT BUT IF WE

57:56 CAN GET TO THAT.

57:57 GREAT.

57:58 ON THE SUBJECT

57:58 OF CONTAINERIZATION AND THE

57:59 LAST GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE I

58:01 HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN PHOTOS WHEN

58:04 YOU PLACED THE WHITE KITCHEN

58:06 TRASH BAG AT THE CURBSIDE

58:08 VERSUS THE BLACK CONTRACTOR

58:10 BAG.

58:11 THERE SEEMS TO BE A DRAMATIC

58:14 DIFFERENCE IN THE CHEW THROUGH

58:15 RATE ON THE WHITE KITCHEN TRASH

58:17 BAG.

58:18 UM IT IS VERY PERMEABLE, EASILY

58:20 PENETRATED BY THE RATS AND I

58:22 WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE BOSTON

58:24 RODENT ACTION TEAM MAYBE RUN A

58:27 PILOT.

58:28 MAYBE WE RUN IT IN BACK BAY.

58:29 I DID NOTICE ON THE HEAT MAP WE

58:31 WERE THE REDDEST AREA FOR

58:34 RODENT ACTIVITY IN THE CITY.

58:36 SO WHY DON'T WE START WHERE THE

58:38 ACTION IS HOT AND I WOULD BE

58:41 SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND CAN GET

58:42 SOME RESOURCES TO PILOT PUTTING

58:45 ALL CURBSIDE TRASH INTO BLACK

58:49 CONTRACTOR BAGS AND LET'S

58:51 MEASURE THE DIFFERENCE WE CAN

58:52 WE CAN DO A PILOT TWO BLOCKS

58:54 THREE BLOCKS SQUARE RADIUS.

58:56 I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT

58:57 IS DOABLE AND MIGHT HAVE A

58:59 SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.

59:01 CONTAINERIZATION HAS GOT TO BE

59:02 ENFORCED.

59:04 I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO

59:05 PRESSURE THAT.

59:07 UM AND YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU

59:08 KNOW, THE WOMAN THAT SPOKE

59:10 EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED

59:11 THAT WE PUT THE TRASH OUT

59:13 CURRENTLY AT 5 P.M. AND WE HAVE

59:15 THE OVERNIGHT THAT OCCURS BUT

59:17 BECAUSE OF THE TRASH ROTATIONS

59:20 THAT TRASH SITS OUT AT THE CURB

59:23 FOR A NET 22 HOURS IN ANY GIVEN

59:27 NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THE

59:29 ROTATION OF THE OF THE TRASH

59:31 PICKUP TIMES.

59:33 SO IF THE TRASH GOES OUT AT

59:35 FIVE SOMETIMES THE PICKUPS ARE

59:38 3 P.M. THE NEXT DAY THAT'S A

59:40 NET 22 HOURS BUFFET FOR THESE

59:44 RATS AND WE NEED TO CLOSE THE

59:46 BUFFET FOR THE RATS.

59:48 SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE MY

59:50 PRIMARY POINT TO YOU FOLKS.

59:52 AND IF WE CAN'T GET TO SAME DAY

59:54 PUT OUT I'M I'M REALLY WILLING

59:56 TO WORK WITH THE CITY.

59:58 CAN WE MOVE THE TRASH PLACEMENT

1:00:01 TIME FROM 5 P.M. TO MAYBE 8

1:00:04 P.M. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT

1:00:06 HAVE A DRAMATIC, UH, DECREASE

1:00:08 IN RODENT ACTIVITY FOR AT LEAST

1:00:10 THREE WARMER HOURS OF THE DAY

1:00:13 WHERE THE THE SMELLS EMULATE

1:00:15 FROM THE BAGS EMANATE FROM THE

1:00:17 BAGS.

1:00:18 UM, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY

1:00:20 SOMETHING WE COULD TRY TO PILOT

1:00:21 .

1:00:23 SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND I

1:00:24 APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT.

1:00:25 WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET ACTION

1:00:28 ON THIS PLAN AND SOMETHING TO

1:00:31 GET TO CONTAINERIZATION

1:00:32 IMPLEMENTED CITYWIDE AND MOVE

1:00:34 THAT PLACEMENT TIME OUT.

1:00:37 THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

1:00:38 THANK YOU.

1:00:39 THANK YOU ALI AND IT'S GOOD

1:00:41 TO BE WITH YOU THE OTHER NIGHT

1:00:42 AND UH, THE BACKPACK.

1:00:46 WE STILL HAVE MORE PUBLIC

1:00:47 TESTIMONY IN PERSON AND

1:00:50 VIRTUAL.

1:00:51 UM, BUT AT THIS TIME I AM GOING

1:00:54 TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY

1:00:57 WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO

1:00:58 THE PANELIST HERE.

1:01:00 I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY

1:01:02 FIVE MINUTES EACH CITY

1:01:03 COUNCIL FIVE MINUTES.

1:01:06 UM I DON'T INTERRUPT MY CITY

1:01:08 COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WHEN THEY'RE

1:01:09 SPEAKING WHETHER I AGREE WITH

1:01:10 THE QUESTION OR NOT AND IF THEY

1:01:12 GO OVER THE FIVE MINUTES UM,

1:01:14 YOU KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO CUT

1:01:15 THEM OFF EITHER.

1:01:16 I DO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO

1:01:18 THEM.

1:01:19 UM, HAVING SAID THAT, LET

1:01:21 ME START WITH THE CITY

1:01:22 COUNCIL PRESIDENT

1:01:23 COUNCIL BREADON.

1:01:24 THANK YOU.

1:01:27 UM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY

1:01:28 COMPREHENSIVE UM, UPDATE ON ON

1:01:30 THE BARB UM THE THE THE BARB

1:01:34 DETERMINED THAT ENFORCEMENT CAN

1:01:35 BE RENDERED QUITE CHALLENGING

1:01:37 UM, AS PER CITY OF BOSTON

1:01:40 NEEDING ACCESS AND PERMISSION

1:01:41 TO STEP ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY.

1:01:43 UM, IS THERE ANY WAY ANY DESIRE

1:01:46 TO EXPLORE WAYS THAT WE CAN

1:01:48 MAKE THAT LEGAL UM TO ALLOW ESD

1:01:51 TO CARRY OUT ENFORCEMENT ON

1:01:52 PRIVATE PROPERTY?

1:01:53 I KNOW CAMBRIDGE DOES THAT, BUT

1:01:55 CAMBRIDGE DOES A LOT OF THINGS

1:01:56 AS WE DO.

1:01:57 SO UM ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT?

1:01:59 UM, JOHN.

1:02:01 SO WE WE DO THE BEST WE CAN.

1:02:04 UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE INSPECTORS

1:02:06 SHOULD BE RINGING DOORBELLS.

1:02:08 UM, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE

1:02:10 THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IT

1:02:11 COULD BE A TENANT THAT GIVES US

1:02:13 PERMISSION.

1:02:14 WE ALSO, UM, IF WE'RE ON A

1:02:16 NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND WE

1:02:18 HAVE PERMISSION, WE CAN LOOK

1:02:19 OVER THE FENCE.

1:02:20 UM, AND SO INSPECTORS SHOULD BE

1:02:22 MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO ACCESS

1:02:24 AND SEE, UH, WHAT THEY CAN.

1:02:27 UM, BUT I CAN, UM, TALK TO

1:02:30 LEGAL ABOUT, UH, EFFORTS

1:02:32 ESPECIALLY IF IF YOU SAY

1:02:33 CAMBRIDGE UH, THEY WERE ALLOWED

1:02:35 TO TO WALK ON THE PROPERTY AND

1:02:36 SEE IF THERE'S UH IF THERE'S

1:02:38 SOME EFFORTS TO EXPAND THAT,

1:02:40 UH, CAPABILITY.

1:02:41 UM, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IN

1:02:43 YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT, UH,

1:02:46 THE BAR INFORMING PARK

1:02:48 CONSTRUCTION I KNOW THERE'S

1:02:49 HAVE BEEN THERE'S BEEN A BIG

1:02:50 ISSUE AT RINGER PARK.

1:02:52 UM, UH, HAS IS THERE ANY WAY

1:02:55 HOW DOES RODENT CONTROL GET

1:02:57 INTEGRATED INTO PROJECTS AT THE

1:02:59 PARKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I

1:03:00 THINK YOU KNOW RIGHT.

1:03:01 AND COMMON IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE

1:03:02 THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE

1:03:04 STAGE WITH DECKING AND UM, THE

1:03:07 THE HAVE A LITTLE COLONY

1:03:09 OF RATS IN UNDER THAT.

1:03:10 SO HOW ARE WE WORKING WITH

1:03:12 PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SORT OF HAD

1:03:13 THIS OFF.

1:03:14 SO SO NOW WHEN THERE'S A NEW

1:03:16 PARK WE WE MEET UH GO OVER THE

1:03:19 DESIGN WE CAN BE ON SITE.

1:03:20 WE DID IT FOR UM COPLEY WE DID.

1:03:24 UM, NOW THE THE PARK THEY'RE

1:03:25 WORKING ON IS UH, THE GREENWAY

1:03:27 IN EAST BOSTON AND CAN TELL OH,

1:03:30 WE WERE UM YOU KNOW, WE

1:03:32 PARTNERED WITH THEM.

1:03:33 UM, THEY DESIGN THE PARK HAD

1:03:36 SOME RODENT PREVENTION IN

1:03:37 THERE, BUT RATS ARE JUST REALLY

1:03:39 SMART AND SO THEY FIND

1:03:41 VULNERABILITIES, YOU KNOW THAT

1:03:42 THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF.

1:03:44 UM, AND SO THE THINGS THAT WE

1:03:46 LEARNED THERE, UM, WHERE WE'RE

1:03:48 GOING TO INCLUDE MOVING FORWARD

1:03:50 BUT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A

1:03:52 DOCUMENT UM OF DESIGN STANDARDS

1:03:54 FOR BOTH PARKS, UH, BOSTON

1:03:57 WATER AND SEWER.

1:03:59 UM AND WE HAVE ALREADY WORKED

1:04:00 IT INTO THE DESIGN STANDARDS

1:04:02 OF PUBLIC FACILITIES.

1:04:03 I COULD UM I KNOW THERE'S

1:04:05 BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, UM,

1:04:06 RODENT, UH, BIRTH CONTROL.

1:04:08 UM, IS THIS IS THIS BEEN PROVEN

1:04:11 TO BE IN A MANAGEMENT AN

1:04:13 EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT TOOL OR

1:04:13 WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT?

1:04:15 WE HAVEN'T SEEN UM, FOR THE

1:04:18 FOLKS THAT HAVE INVESTED IN IT

1:04:20 .

1:04:21 UM MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS.

1:04:23 UH, BUT WE'RE STILL YOU KNOW,

1:04:24 WE'RE STILL LOOKING AND UM, YOU

1:04:27 KNOW, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION

1:04:29 IN UH, NEW YORK UM, AT THE THE

1:04:32 SUMMIT.

1:04:33 UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ANY

1:04:37 PROOF THAT THERE'S BEEN A

1:04:39 MEASURABLE REDUCTION.

1:04:41 UM, AND A WAY THAT WE COULD

1:04:43 INCORPORATE IT AT THIS POINT.

1:04:45 UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE

1:04:47 CONSTANTLY OPEN TO IT AND IF

1:04:49 THERE COMES A POINT WHERE WE

1:04:50 CAN FIND A PRODUCT THAT WORKS,

1:04:52 UM, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE'LL TRY

1:04:54 IT.

1:04:54 YEAH.

1:04:55 AND NO RODENT ACTIVITIES.

1:04:57 UM, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE

1:04:58 HAD A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION.

1:04:59 VERY OFTEN NEIGHBORS SAY THAT

1:05:01 RODENT ACTIVITY IS VERY

1:05:03 DIRECTLY RELATED TO

1:05:04 CONSTRUCTION.

1:05:04 UM, ARE THERE ANY

1:05:07 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BARB TO

1:05:08 PLACE THE ONUS ON DEVELOPERS

1:05:09 AND CONTRACTORS TO HELP ADDRESS

1:05:12 THAT ISSUE?

1:05:13 AH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THE

1:05:14 JURY'S OUT SORT OF ON ON

1:05:15 WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A REAL

1:05:17 FACTOR.

1:05:18 SO THE RATS HAVE TO BE THERE

1:05:20 OBVIOUSLY UH, FOR IT TO TO BE

1:05:22 AN ISSUE WITH CONSTRUCTION.

1:05:24 SO UH, COMMUNITY SANITATION UH

1:05:27 PROGRAM IS IF THE UM DOES IN

1:05:31 THE DESIGN REVIEW THE PLANS

1:05:34 EXAMINER WILL ASSIGN THE

1:05:35 COMMUNITY SANITATION SIGN OFF,

1:05:37 WHICH MEANS THEY CAN'T GET A

1:05:39 PERMIT FROM I-S-D UNLESS THEY

1:05:42 PRODUCE A, UH, REPORT FROM A

1:05:44 LICENSED PEST CONTROL

1:05:45 TECHNICIAN THAT SAYS THE, UM

1:05:48 THE PROPERTY IS RODENT FREE AND

1:05:50 THAT MONITORING STATIONS HAVE

1:05:52 BEEN PLACED AROUND THE

1:05:53 PERIMETER.

1:05:53 ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE GET THAT

1:05:56 REPORT, WE GIVE THEM A SIGN OFF

1:05:57 AND THEN WE DISPATCH A AND

1:05:59 INSPECT THE SO WE DID.

1:06:01 I THINK IT'S A IT'S AROUND TWO

1:06:04 210 CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS

1:06:06 SINCE JANUARY 1ST.

1:06:09 UM AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAN.

1:06:11 THERE ARE UH WAYS THAT YOU CAN

1:06:14 HOLD UH CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES

1:06:17 RESPONSIBLE IF WE CAN PROVE

1:06:18 THAT THAT THEY WERE

1:06:20 RESPONSIBLE.

1:06:20 FOR IT.

1:06:21 UM, WHICH SOMETIMES THAT CAN

1:06:22 BE DIFFICULT.

1:06:23 BUT, UH, WE DO OUR BEST AT THE

1:06:25 BEGINNING OF THE CONSTRUCTION

1:06:26 TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO RATS.

1:06:28 VERY GOOD.

1:06:28 THANK YOU.

1:06:29 I'LL COME BACK FOR A SECOND

1:06:30 ROUND, BUT THANK YOU.

1:06:30 THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR.

1:06:32 AND THANK YOU,

1:06:33 COUNCIL PRESIDENT.

1:06:37 COUNCILOR BREADON, YOU'RE UP.

1:06:39 WHICH I MEAN I'M SORRY,

1:06:41 COUNCILOR DURKAN.

1:06:42 THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR.

1:06:43 UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK

1:06:45 ON THIS ISSUE.

1:06:45 UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD

1:06:47 MANY HEARINGS ON THIS ISSUE.

1:06:49 I THINK, UM, COUNCILOR FLOOD

1:06:51 AND I BOTH FILED A TON

1:06:53 OF FILINGS ON THIS AND I KNOW

1:06:54 LAST YEAR WE HAD A HEARING

1:06:56 EXPLORING SAME DAY PUT OUT AND

1:06:58 PICK UP FOR A NON CONTAINERIZED

1:06:59 A WASTE WHICH I AUTHORED.

1:07:02 UM ACTUALLY THANKS TO MY UM MY

1:07:04 FRIEND AND MY CONSTITUENT HARRY

1:07:06 COLLINGS WHO I KNOW JUST

1:07:07 TESTIFIED VIRTUALLY.

1:07:09 UM, A GREAT UH, GUY WHO WORKS

1:07:11 FOR MAYOR AND YOU KNOW, AND UM,

1:07:13 NOW DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN

1:07:14 OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:07:15 UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS.

1:07:18 UM, SORT OF WHERE WE ARE

1:07:20 BECAUSE I THINK, UH A LOT

1:07:22 OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT

1:07:24 HEARING WAS THAT, YOU KNOW,

1:07:25 WHAT NEW YORK WAS DOING WASN'T

1:07:27 WORKING.

1:07:27 PEOPLE WERE ABUSING THOSE

1:07:28 CONTAINERIZED TRASH CANS.

1:07:29 NOW THEY HAVE MAXIMUM DONNIE.

1:07:31 HE'S ACTUALLY EXPANDING SORT

1:07:33 OF THOSE UH THOSE UH, YOU KNOW,

1:07:36 SMALLER, UM CONTAINERIZED

1:07:38 TOTES.

1:07:38 I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE.

1:07:40 I ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, EVEN WITH

1:07:42 THE, YOU KNOW, RAT PROOF TRASH

1:07:44 CANS, WE AREN'T GETTING 100%,

1:07:46 YOU KNOW, RAT PROOF.

1:07:47 AND SO EVEN WITH WHAT WE'RE

1:07:49 TRYING TO INNOVATE, UM, YOU

1:07:51 KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO

1:07:53 DO.

1:07:53 UM, I THINK GETTING, UM,

1:07:55 GETTING TRASH OFF OF OUR

1:07:57 STREETS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT

1:07:58 PART OF THAT.

1:07:59 UM, AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF OUR

1:08:01 BASEMENTS WHICH USED TO BE USED

1:08:03 FOR TRASH ARE NOW APARTMENTS.

1:08:05 SO SO HOW DO WE DO THIS?

1:08:07 AND UM AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S

1:08:09 TRADE OFFS WITH PARKING AND

1:08:10 OTHER THINGS BUT WHAT IS THE

1:08:12 CITY THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS

1:08:14 OF CONTAINERIZATION AND ALSO

1:08:15 POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE POLICY

1:08:17 UM FOR SAME DAY PUT OUT PICK UP

1:08:19 AND PUT OUT WHICH I KNOW IS A

1:08:21 HUGE CHARGE FOR THE BACK BAY

1:08:22 AND BEACON HILL UH, WHICH ARE

1:08:24 DEALING WITH UM YOU KNOW, THE

1:08:26 NEGATIVE EXTERNALITIES OF OF

1:08:28 NOT HAVING SPACE FOR TRASH

1:08:30 ROOMS.

1:08:31 THANKS, COUNCIL.

1:08:32 I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION.

1:08:34 UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S

1:08:35 VERY UNIQUE AND I THINK EACH

1:08:37 NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THEIR OWN

1:08:38 UNIQUE SET OF CHALLENGES.

1:08:40 SOME ARE MORE DENSE THAN

1:08:41 OTHERS.

1:08:41 UM, WHICH MAKES IT CHALLENGING

1:08:43 FOR CONTAINERIZATION IN EVERY

1:08:44 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:08:45 UH, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A

1:08:46 COUPLE OF DIFFERENT UM, KIND

1:08:48 OF METHODS OF HOW WE COLLECT

1:08:49 TRASH ACROSS THE CITY.

1:08:50 UM, AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, OVER

1:08:52 THE LAST, YOU KNOW, YEAR WE'VE

1:08:53 BEEN WORKING WITH DIFFERENT UH,

1:08:55 UNIVERSITY PARTNERS AS WELL AS

1:08:57 COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO BETTER

1:08:58 UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE

1:08:59 DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT ARE

1:09:01 AVAILABLE TO US, UM, TO KIND

1:09:02 OF MAKE REFORMS TO SOME

1:09:03 OF THESE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES

1:09:04 THAT YOU'RE TALKING THROUGH AND

1:09:06 WHAT WOULD SOME OF THOSE WHAT

1:09:07 ARE SOME OF THOSE REFORMS THAT

1:09:09 COMMUNITY WOULD BE IN FAVOR

1:09:10 OF SUPPORTING?

1:09:11 UM, I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY

1:09:13 TO THE EXACT KIND OF UH,

1:09:14 THINKING OF PUBLIC WORKS UM, AS

1:09:17 TO KIND OF THE LONG TERM

1:09:18 SOLUTIONS AND STRATEGIES.

1:09:19 BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN

1:09:20 COORDINATION WITH THE STREETS

1:09:21 TEAM, UH, IS IDENTIFYING THOSE

1:09:23 DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

1:09:24 WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS

1:09:25 TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY

1:09:27 WOULD SUPPORT AND THEN KIND

1:09:28 OF WORKING WITH THE UM, TRASH

1:09:30 CONTRACTORS TO SEE WHAT WOULD

1:09:31 BE UH, FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO

1:09:33 OPERATIONALIZE.

1:09:33 UH, AND.

1:09:34 THEN YOU KNOW.

1:09:34 HOPEFULLY UH, IN COLLABORATION

1:09:35 WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UM, THEY'LL

1:09:37 KIND OF ROLL OUT A LONG TERM

1:09:38 STRATEGY BUT AGAIN, THEY WOULD

1:09:39 BE BEST TO KIND OF ANSWER SOME

1:09:40 OF THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT

1:09:42 THEY'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE.

1:09:43 WELL, I THINK THAT UM WE USED

1:09:45 TO HAVE UM THAT YOU COULD BUY

1:09:47 CITY OF BOSTON RECYCLING BAGS

1:09:49 AT WHOLE FOODS.

1:09:50 THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT UM AND

1:09:51 I DON'T KNOW, THEY HAD

1:09:52 LITERALLY THE CITY OF BOSTON

1:09:53 LOGO ON THEM.

1:09:54 I'M NOT SURE WHO WAS SELLING

1:09:55 THEM OR WHY AND IF THE CITY WAS

1:09:57 ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THAT.

1:09:59 UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY

1:10:00 IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A

1:10:01 STANDARD IF WE ARE GOING TO DO

1:10:03 NON CONTAINERIZED WASTE THAT WE

1:10:04 HAVE A STANDARD MINIMUM UM

1:10:07 TRASH BAG THAT PEOPLE CAN USE.

1:10:09 UM IT'S NOT I KNOW IN MY

1:10:11 NEIGHBORHOOD YOU CAN'T FIND THE

1:10:13 TYPE OF TRASH BAG THAT YOU

1:10:14 SHOULD USE AT ANY OF THE LOCAL

1:10:16 STORES.

1:10:16 SO EVEN DOING A CAMPAIGN WITH

1:10:18 ALL THE LOCAL STORES AND

1:10:19 GETTING THEM TO SELL THE RIGHT

1:10:21 TYPE AND WEIGHT OF TRASH BAG I

1:10:23 THINK WOULD BE HUGE.

1:10:25 UM I I THINK THAT A HUGE PART

1:10:27 OF THIS IS EDUCATION BUT IF YOU

1:10:28 CAN'T EVEN FIND IN YOUR LOCAL

1:10:30 STORE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO

1:10:32 BE USING, IT'S WE'RE GOING TO

1:10:33 CONTINUE TO USE KITCHEN TRASH

1:10:35 BAGS AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE

1:10:37 THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND

1:10:38 THEY ARE EASILY AS WE KNOW UM A

1:10:42 BUFFET AND A FEAST FOR RATS.

1:10:44 UM, WHEN UM AND I KNOW THAT WE

1:10:46 ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO

1:10:48 EXPAND PROJECT OSCAR WHICH IS I

1:10:50 THINK HAS BEEN A HUGE UM YOU

1:10:52 KNOW, IT HAS BEEN REALLY,

1:10:53 REALLY HELPFUL TO GET AS MUCH

1:10:55 OF THE WASTE, UM, THE FOOD

1:10:57 WASTE AS WE CAN OUT OF THE

1:10:58 TRASH BAGS.

1:10:59 UM, BUT THERE'S MORE WORK TO

1:11:01 DO.

1:11:01 UM, I KNOW HOLLY WANTED ME TO

1:11:03 GET ON THIS ON THE RECORD.

1:11:05 APPARENTLY THERE'S A CASE STUDY

1:11:07 ON CONTAINERIZATION.

1:11:08 WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT.

1:11:09 UM, SO IF, UM, IF THAT CAN BE

1:11:12 PROVIDED TO OUR OFFICE, WE

1:11:13 WOULD PREFER, UM, TO FIGURE

1:11:16 THIS OUT.

1:11:17 I THINK WE WE I THINK AS A CITY

1:11:19 COUNCIL COULD REALLY UNITE

1:11:20 AROUND CONTAINERIZATION.

1:11:22 I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE.

1:11:23 UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S, UH, YOU

1:11:25 KNOW, DIFFERENT UH, FACTORS IN

1:11:27 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS.

1:11:28 I KNOW COUNCILOR CLAUDIA ZAPATA

1:11:29 AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS.

1:11:30 YOU KNOW, THE NORTH END MIGHT

1:11:32 BE DIFFERENT THAN BEACON HILL

1:11:32 BUT WE HAVE VERY SIMILAR

1:11:33 CHALLENGES.

1:11:34 UM, SO I'M, YOU KNOW, FROM WEST

1:11:37 END TO MISSION HILL, LOTS

1:11:39 OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.

1:11:40 UM, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME VERY

1:11:42 BRIEFLY.

1:11:43 UM, WHEN SOMEONE SEES AN INFLUX

1:11:45 OF RATS WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED

1:11:47 TO DO AND SORT OF WHAT THOSE

1:11:48 NEXT STEPS ARE?

1:11:49 UM, BECAUSE I, I OFTEN FIND

1:11:51 THAT NEIGHBORS ARE UM, YOU

1:11:54 KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T

1:11:55 ALWAYS DIAL THROUGH ON ONE.

1:11:57 THEY DON'T ALWAYS UM THEY DON'T

1:11:59 ALWAYS KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD

1:12:00 REPORT TO THE CITY WHEN THEY

1:12:01 SEE TEN RATS IN A ROW AND WHEN

1:12:03 THEY SEE INCREASED RAT ACTIVITY

1:12:05 WHAT CAN WHAT SHOULD AND UH,

1:12:07 RESIDENTS BE DOING WHEN THEY

1:12:08 SEE RATS?

1:12:09 YEAH HAPPY TO START AND THEN

1:12:10 DOCTOR CHIME IN AS WELL.

1:12:12 BUT UM WE REALLY ENCOURAGE OUR

1:12:13 RESIDENTS TO ANYTIME YOU SEE

1:12:15 RODENT ACTIVITY TO SUBMIT THAT

1:12:17 UH 311 JOHN AND HIS TEAM CAN

1:12:19 RESPOND WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS.

1:12:21 BUT ALSO WE'VE SET UP A

1:12:23 DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS WHICH

1:12:26 IS RATS@BOSTON.GOV.

1:12:26 SINCE WE LAUNCHED THAT OVER A

1:12:28 YEAR AGO.

1:12:28 I THINK THAT'S BEEN A REALLY

1:12:29 GREAT UM, PLATFORM FOR FOLKS TO

1:12:31 SUBMIT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW

1:12:33 THEY CAN HELP PREVENT RODENT

1:12:34 ACTIVITY BUT ALSO LET US KNOW

1:12:35 ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES

1:12:36 THEY'RE FACING AND WE UTILIZE

1:12:38 THAT PLATFORM TO JUST UM, SEND

1:12:39 OUT INSPECTORS TO HELP KIND

1:12:41 OF REDUCE THE RODENT CHALLENGES

1:12:42 THAT THEY'RE SEEING AND ADDRESS

1:12:43 SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS.

1:12:44 UM, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT

1:12:46 THAT YOUR POINT AROUND

1:12:47 EDUCATION IS IS REALLY

1:12:48 IMPORTANT.

1:12:49 UM, I THINK SOME OF THE WORK

1:12:50 THAT ALLIE AND HER NEIGHBORHOOD

1:12:52 ASSOCIATION DO IS IS REALLY A

1:12:53 GREAT KIND OF STANDARD THAT

1:12:55 OTHER UM, NEIGHBORHOODS COULD

1:12:56 FOLLOW AROUND HELPING YOUR

1:12:59 FELLOW RESIDENTS KNOW AROUND

1:13:00 THE RIGHT PRACTICE.

1:13:00 I KNOW WE.

1:13:01 SHOULD SHOUT OUT ABOUT BEACON

1:13:02 HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS WELL

1:13:04 BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING

1:13:05 GOING WITH THEIR BLOCK CAPTAINS

1:13:07 PROGRAM AND UM, A LOT OF WORK

1:13:09 TO DO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

1:13:10 YEAH.

1:13:10 AND SO ALL OF THESE

1:13:11 EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT

1:13:12 THEY'RE SUBMITTING ARE

1:13:14 AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AS

1:13:15 WELL.

1:13:15 UM, AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE

1:13:16 PRACTICES RESIDENTS SHOULD

1:13:17 FOLLOW TO HELP PREVENT RATS.

1:13:18 THANK YOU.

1:13:20 UM, COUNCILOR MURPHY, YOU HAVE

1:13:22 YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES.

1:13:23 YOU'RE UP.

1:13:24 THANK YOU.

1:13:24 CHAIR.

1:13:25 AND THANK YOU FOR CONVENING US.

1:13:27 THANK YOU FOR THE PANEL AND

1:13:30 ESPECIALLY TO THE RESIDENTS WHO

1:13:31 CAME IN PERSON AND ON ZOOM AND

1:13:35 I JUST LOOKING AROUND I SEE

1:13:36 PEOPLE FROM CHINATOWN, BACK

1:13:39 BAY, YOU KNOW, BAY VILLAGE BACK

1:13:41 HOME IN DORCHESTER, EAST BOSTON

1:13:42 .

1:13:42 IT'S IT'S A CITYWIDE ISSUE.

1:13:45 WE KNOW THAT.

1:13:46 AND WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE

1:13:48 COUNCIL WE WOULD SOMETIMES JOKE

1:13:50 THAT WHEN WE WOULD HAVE RAT

1:13:51 HEARINGS WE'D.

1:13:52 GET LIKE.

1:13:52 ALL THE.

1:13:53 COUNCIL TO.

1:13:53 SHOW UP LIKE THAT.

1:13:54 IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE

1:13:56 DEFINITELY DEAL WITH AND GET A

1:13:57 LOT OF CALLS FOR, BUT I'M GOING

1:14:00 TO KIND OF SHIFT WHAT MY

1:14:01 QUESTIONS WERE BASED ON WHAT I

1:14:02 HEARD FROM SOME OF THE

1:14:04 RESIDENTS.

1:14:04 UM, AND I DO THINK IT'S TIED

1:14:08 CLOSELY TO THE OTHER

1:14:10 DEPARTMENTS WHICH WAS SAID

1:14:11 ABOUT TRASH AND STUFF.

1:14:12 WE RECENTLY HAD A HEARING ON

1:14:14 TRASH PICKUP AND ALSO THE

1:14:18 CHANGE TO PICK UP THE GREEN

1:14:20 BUCKETS LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK

1:14:22 NOW WHICH I HEAR IS A CONCERN

1:14:24 PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED IS GOING

1:14:26 TO AFFECT BUT UM ONE MAN I'M

1:14:29 SORRY I FORGOT YOUR NAME BUT

1:14:30 YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CODE AND

1:14:32 HOW IT ALREADY IS STATING THE

1:14:33 THICKNESS OF THE BAG BECAUSE I

1:14:35 OFTEN TALK ABOUT MY STREET JOHN

1:14:37 I KNOW WE'VE DONE SEVERAL WALKS

1:14:39 ON MAN SENIOR LIGHT AND WEIGHT

1:14:41 AND SEVERAL OF THE APARTMENT

1:14:43 BUILDINGS DO PUT OUT THE BAGS

1:14:45 AND THE AMOUNT NO LIGHT IS LIKE

1:14:47 AS BIG AS THIS AND IT IS

1:14:49 SMALLER THAN KITCHEN BAGS.

1:14:52 I THOUGHT I HAD BEEN TOLD THAT

1:14:54 WHEN YOU STORE IT DURING THE

1:14:56 WEEK IT HAS TO BE IN

1:14:57 CARBON BARRELS BUT ONCE THE

1:14:59 TIME OPENS UP TO BRING TO THE

1:15:01 STREET TO THE SIDEWALK IT CAN

1:15:03 BE KIND OF IN ANYTHING.

1:15:05 IS IT TRUE OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO

1:15:09 BE IN LIKE THICKER TYPE BAGS?

1:15:11 YEAH.

1:15:12 SO IT'S IN.

1:15:13 PROPER STORAGE OF TRASH IF IT'S

1:15:14 NOT CONTAINERIZED UP TO 5:00

1:15:18 TONIGHT BEFORE TRASH PICKUP AND

1:15:20 THEN ONCE TRASH PICKUP IS

1:15:22 ALLOWED TO GO OUT THEY'RE

1:15:23 ALLOWED TO PUT IT IN BAGS WHAT

1:15:24 THEY SHOULD BE AND I BELIEVE IN

1:15:27 THE CODE IT SAYS TWO PLY.

1:15:29 WHICH IS.

1:15:31 IS A CHECK.

1:15:33 UH NO IT'S THERE YEAH IT SHOULD

1:15:35 BE A THICKER UH PLASTIC THAN A

1:15:39 LIKE A REGULAR BAG.

1:15:40 YEAH.

1:15:41 SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT?

1:15:44 BECAUSE I KNOW JUST DONE.

1:15:46 LIKE MY.

1:15:47 ON.

1:15:47 THE.

1:15:48 STREET I GUESS I.

1:15:48 SHOULD CALL IT THAT NOW.

1:15:49 UM, IT'S.

1:15:51 UM IT'S JUST REGULAR KITCHEN

1:15:53 BAGS THAT ARE OPENING UP

1:15:54 WITHOUT EVEN ANY RODENTS OR

1:15:56 PEOPLE WALKING BY TRYING TO SEE

1:15:59 IF THEY CAN FIND OTHER YOU

1:16:00 KNOW.

1:16:01 YEAH.

1:16:02 SO, UH, WELL FOR

1:16:05 ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WE DO

1:16:06 THE EDUCATION.

1:16:08 I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR

1:16:09 CODE ENFORCEMENT.

1:16:10 I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY ENFORCE

1:16:12 UM THAT UM BUT WE DO SPEND A

1:16:15 LOT OF EDUCATION ON TRYING TO

1:16:17 GET FOLKS NOT ONLY TO

1:16:19 CONTAINERIZE IF THEY CAN BUT

1:16:21 LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME EVEN

1:16:23 IF YOU CAN PUT TRASH OUT AT

1:16:26 5:00 THE NIGHT BEFORE THE LEAST

1:16:28 AMOUNT OF TIME THE TRASH SITS

1:16:30 ON THE SIDEWALK REDUCES THE

1:16:32 CHANCE IT'S GOING TO BE A FOOD

1:16:33 SOURCE.

1:16:33 OKAY, UM ALSO LEARNED YESTERDAY

1:16:38 THAT OUR NEW 311 SYSTEM HAS

1:16:40 GONE INTO EFFECT WITH THE WAY

1:16:42 THEY'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION

1:16:43 .

1:16:43 WE HAD A HEARING ON SIDEWALK

1:16:46 BLOCKING BIKE LANES AND

1:16:47 CROSSINGS.

1:16:48 WHAT TYPE OF NEW INFORMATION

1:16:50 HAVE YOU LEARNED YOU'LL BE

1:16:52 GETTING FROM THE NEW 311 SYSTEM

1:16:54 BASED ON THESE TYPES OF CALLS

1:16:55 THAT COME IN?

1:16:57 SO WE'VE HAD UH A COUPLE

1:16:59 TRAININGS I THINK UH.

1:17:02 ,NOVEMBER 4TH IS THE FULL

1:17:03 SWITCHOVER FOR FOR.

1:17:04 MY TEAM.

1:17:06 UM I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME

1:17:08 SIMILARITIES BETWEEN YOU KNOW,

1:17:10 OUR INSPECTORS CURRENTLY USE

1:17:11 CITY WORKER THEY'LL HAVE A VERY

1:17:14 SIMILAR UH, PROCESS WOULD

1:17:16 CREATE SHOW AND BEING.

1:17:18 UM BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE OPTIONS.

1:17:21 UM, THE THE VIEWS, THE MAPS UM

1:17:24 WE'LL HAVE MORE VISIBILITY ON

1:17:26 ON THE DIFFERENT KINDS

1:17:27 OF COMPLAINTS AND FOR ME AS THE

1:17:29 UM THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT

1:17:31 I'LL HAVE MORE VISIBILITY ON ON

1:17:33 CLOSED COMPLAINTS AND THINGS

1:17:34 LIKE THAT.

1:17:35 OKAY.

1:17:36 THANK YOU.

1:17:37 UM, AND I'M JUST GOING TO

1:17:39 ASSUME BECAUSE YOU SAID IT IN

1:17:41 YOUR STATEMENTS TO THAT THAT'S

1:17:42 WHERE THEN YOU'LL.

1:17:44 BE.

1:17:44 PUTTING MORE RESOURCES IF WE

1:17:45 SEE THAT THERE'S HOTSPOTS THAT

1:17:47 ARE CONTINUING.

1:17:48 YEAH WITH THE HOT HOTSPOT MAP

1:17:51 IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE

1:17:52 GOING TO WORK INTO OUR WORKFLOW

1:17:54 SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE

1:17:55 PROACTIVE IN IDENTIFYING

1:17:56 THROUGH THE DATA IN THE HOTSPOT

1:17:58 MAP.

1:17:59 AND I KNOW THAT TRACK TIME.

1:18:01 PICK UP AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT

1:18:02 UNDER ANYONE HERE PARTICULARLY

1:18:05 BUT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD I KNOW

1:18:08 WISHES THAT THEY COULD GET YOU

1:18:10 KNOW THE FIRST PICK UP IN THE

1:18:12 MORNING AND TWICE A WEEK YOU

1:18:14 KNOW WOULD BE GREAT.

1:18:15 IT'S JUST EXPENSIVE.

1:18:17 ANY ANY JUST UNDERSTANDING ON

1:18:20 THAT WHEN RESIDENTS SAY LIKE

1:18:22 HOW COME WE CAN I MEAN I KNOW

1:18:25 IT'S ALWAYS USUALLY COMES DOWN

1:18:26 TO MONEY BUT.

1:18:27 YEAH I THINK IT'S A GREAT

1:18:29 QUESTION.

1:18:29 AND UM AS JOHN MENTIONED, YOU

1:18:31 KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE

1:18:32 THAT RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THE

1:18:33 CLOSURE THEY PUT THAT TRASH OUT

1:18:35 TO THE TIME OF COLLECTION UM

1:18:36 THE BETTER.

1:18:37 UM BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE

1:18:38 IDENTIFIED USING SOME OF THE

1:18:39 DATA TOOLS AND JUST EXPERIENCE

1:18:42 THAT, YOU KNOW, RODENT ACTIVITY

1:18:44 IS MOST PREVALENT UM, BETWEEN

1:18:46 THE HOURS OF AROUND, YOU KNOW,

1:18:49 8 P.M. TO 5 A.M. UH, AND SO

1:18:50 USING THAT INFORMATION I THINK

1:18:52 THAT'S INFORMING SOME OF THESE

1:18:53 CHANGES THAT WE'RE CONTINUING

1:18:54 TO UH, LOOK AT WITH THE PUBLIC

1:18:56 WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, TAKING

1:18:57 INTO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK

1:18:58 AROUND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS THAT

1:19:00 ALIGN WITH THE OPERATIONAL AND

1:19:01 FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE

1:19:02 FACING HERE IN THE CITY.

1:19:03 OKAY.

1:19:04 THANK YOU COUNCIL FLYNN I

1:19:05 JUST DID WANT TO NOT A QUESTION

1:19:06 BUT THANK YOU JOSH FOR BEING

1:19:08 HERE AND ALL YOU DO FOR THE BAY

1:19:10 AND I'LL REACH OUT PERSONALLY

1:19:11 IF.

1:19:12 THERE'S ANYTHING CONCERNS I'M

1:19:13 HEARING FROM RESIDENTS DIRECTLY

1:19:15 THANK YOU.

1:19:15 THANK YOU COUNCIL.

1:19:16 THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR.

1:19:18 THANK YOU COUNCIL MURPHY

1:19:20 COUNCIL ME HERE YOU'RE UP.

1:19:21 THANK YOU.

1:19:22 CHAIR AND I JUST.

1:19:23 WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.

1:19:24 UH YOUR WORK.

1:19:25 IN THIS SPACE.

1:19:26 AND YOUR ADVOCACY FOR.

1:19:28 RATS ARE.

1:19:29 UM, FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND.

1:19:32 YOU'LL.

1:19:32 TALK MORE ABOUT.

1:19:33 IT.

1:19:33 DURING HIS TIME.

1:19:34 BUT FOR NOW.

1:19:36 UM.

1:19:37 I AM CURIOUS.

1:19:38 AND I REALLY DO.

1:19:39 APPRECIATE THE CLOROX UM.

1:19:41 COMMENT BEING AN IMMIGRANT

1:19:43 MYSELF.

1:19:44 UM.

1:19:45 CLEANING IS AN EVERYDAY

1:19:46 THING AND WE USE ALL TYPES

1:19:48 OF MATERIALS AND CLOROX.

1:19:50 IS.

1:19:50 DEFINITELY AND VICKS VICKS

1:19:52 FIXES EVERYTHING BUT UM I'M

1:19:55 JUST CURIOUS WHEN YOU.

1:19:56 HEAR SOME OF THE

1:19:58 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT UH.

1:19:59 YOU KNOW, THE THE FOLKS WHO ARE

1:20:01 HERE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY UM,

1:20:03 TALKED ABOUT SAME DAY SO HAVE

1:20:05 WE TRIED THAT PUTTING THE THE

1:20:08 GARBAGE OUT THE SAME DAY.

1:20:09 WE HAVEN'T.

1:20:10 MADE ANY OF THE CHANGES.

1:20:12 UH.

1:20:13 BASED ON ANY OF THE

1:20:13 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN

1:20:14 SAID TODAY, COUNSELOR, NO

1:20:16 CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE.

1:20:17 BUT I.

1:20:17 HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I'M

1:20:19 GOING TO ASSUME THAT'S NOT THE

1:20:20 FIRST TIME YOU HEARD ABOUT

1:20:21 THESE RECOMMENDATIONS.

1:20:23 SO IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS

1:20:24 OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THOSE

1:20:27 RECOMMENDATIONS I'M GOING TO

1:20:28 ASSUME WERE MADE AND I'M

1:20:30 CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT

1:20:32 THOSE WERE CONSIDERED AND IF

1:20:34 NOT WHY?

1:20:36 OH SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO UM,

1:20:38 MISUNDERSTAND YOUR FIRST

1:20:39 QUESTION BUT YES, ALL OF THE

1:20:40 RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE

1:20:41 HEARD TODAY HAVE BEEN PART OF A

1:20:43 ROBUST COMMUNITY PROCESS THAT

1:20:44 WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR.

1:20:45 UM, FOLKS LIKE ALLIE FOLEY,

1:20:47 OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE

1:20:48 GIVEN US A LOT OF REALLY GREAT

1:20:50 FEEDBACK, UH, AND WE'RE

1:20:51 ANALYZING MUCH OF THAT FEEDBACK

1:20:53 AND WORKING ON KIND

1:20:55 OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE THE

1:20:56 OPERATIONAL AND.

1:20:56 FINANCIAL UH, FEASIBILITY FOR

1:20:58 US TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE

1:21:00 CHANGES.

1:21:00 BUT AS I MENTIONED TO

1:21:01 COUNCILOR DURKAN, UM, PUBLIC

1:21:02 WORKS WOULD BE BETTER FIT TO

1:21:04 KIND OF EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE

1:21:05 LONG TERM STRATEGIES THAT

1:21:06 THEY'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE

1:21:07 BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT

1:21:08 WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS.

1:21:09 YEAH, I ALWAYS SAY THIS IS THAT

1:21:11 BOSTON IS.

1:21:12 RESOURCE RICH BUT COORDINATION

1:21:14 POOR.

1:21:14 AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE

1:21:18 DEFERRING TO PUBLIC WORKS HAVE

1:21:19 YOU BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH

1:21:21 THEM?

1:21:21 DO YOU GET UPDATES FROM THEM

1:21:24 LIKE DO YOU HAVE ANY STATUS

1:21:27 UPDATES THAT YOU CAN SHARE

1:21:28 ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OUTCOMES?

1:21:30 MOST DEFINITELY YEAH.

1:21:31 SO UM PUBLIC WORKS THE STREETS

1:21:34 CABINET UM IS A CRITICAL MEMBER

1:21:35 OF THE BOSTON ROAD AND ACTION

1:21:36 PLAN TEAM.

1:21:37 UH, THEY'RE PART OF THE

1:21:38 LEADERSHIP TEAM AND WE HAVE

1:21:39 FREQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH

1:21:40 THEM AROUND UM, THESE CHANGES

1:21:42 AS WELL AS OTHER PILOT PROGRAMS

1:21:43 THAT WE CAN UH, WORK ON.

1:21:45 UM, AS I MENTIONED THAT YOU

1:21:46 KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO

1:21:48 SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT

1:21:48 DEPARTMENT FOR THE ROBUST

1:21:49 CHANGES THEY WANT TO MAKE AND.

1:21:51 HOW MANY CHANGES HAVE YOU

1:21:52 PILOTED ALREADY SINCE YOU'VE

1:21:54 INITIATED THIS?

1:21:56 UM, AS IT COMES TO TRASH, WE'VE

1:21:57 REALLY TAKEN TWO MAIN PILOT

1:21:59 APPROACHES ONE BEING THE WORK

1:22:01 AT THE FACILITY AS IT PERTAINS

1:22:03 TO RESIDENTIAL DUMPSTERS AND

1:22:04 CHANGING FROM UH, CITY PICKUP

1:22:06 TO COMMERCIAL LEVEL PICKUP.

1:22:07 WE'RE MEASURING THE IMPACTS

1:22:09 USING DATA COLLECTION TO SEE

1:22:10 WHAT THE IMPACT ACTUALLY IS

1:22:12 OF CHANGING THOSE

1:22:14 CONTAINERIZATION AT THE

1:22:15 COMMONWEALTH.

1:22:16 SIMILARLY, UM CONTAINERIZATION

1:22:17 OF TRASH IS IMPORTANT ACROSS

1:22:19 THE BOARD SMALLER BAG AND SO

1:22:20 WE'RE FOCUSING ON UH STREET

1:22:22 BARRELS AND PARKS BARRELS AND

1:22:24 CONTAINERIZED TRASH IN THOSE

1:22:25 LOCATIONS AS WELL AND MEASURING

1:22:26 THE IMPACT OF THAT.

1:22:27 UM, BECAUSE I THINK THOSE TWO

1:22:29 PILOT PROGRAMS AND THE RESULTS

1:22:30 OF THOSE WILL HELP INFORM SOME

1:22:31 OF THE LONG TERM STRATEGIES YOU

1:22:33 WANT TO FUND.

1:22:33 OKAY.

1:22:34 SO I'M CURIOUS.

1:22:36 A NEW YORK HAS THIS NEW KILLING

1:22:39 MACHINE.

1:22:40 I JUST READ IT ON THE NEW YORK

1:22:41 TIMES.

1:22:41 IT'S CALLED BOROUGH RCS.

1:22:43 HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT?

1:22:44 THEY TOOK IT FROM LAST YEAR.

1:22:46 ARE WE.

1:22:46 USING IT?

1:22:48 WE HAVE FOR FOR MANY YEARS NOW

1:22:50 UM WHEN WE ALSO HAD STRUGGLES

1:22:53 WITH THE DRY ICE AND GETTING

1:22:55 THE DRY ICE WE.

1:22:56 HERE I I'M THINKING I'M

1:22:58 BRINGING SOME I'M LIKE BUT.

1:23:00 IT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE MACHINE.

1:23:02 IT'S ALLOWED US TO.

1:23:03 REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON

1:23:04 RODENTICIDE.

1:23:05 UM AND ARE.

1:23:06 WE STILL USING IT?

1:23:07 WE YES WE HAVE UH MULTIPLE

1:23:09 TEAMS.

1:23:09 WE ALSO WORKED WITH BJA TO

1:23:11 TRAIN THEIR STAFF ON THE

1:23:12 BOROUGH DIRECTION.

1:23:14 WE ALSO HAVE A CARBON DIOXIDE

1:23:16 TANK THAT WE ALSO.

1:23:17 SO CAN WE SEND IT TO BAY

1:23:19 VILLAGE.

1:23:19 COULD WE SEND IT TO SOME

1:23:20 OF THEM.

1:23:20 CAN WE SEND IT TO SOME OF THE

1:23:21 SPACES AND PLACES THAT HAVE

1:23:23 BEEN HERE?

1:23:23 YEAH WE'RE ALL OVER THE.

1:23:25 CITY UH USING THAT MACHINE.

1:23:26 ALL RIGHT.

1:23:27 I LIKE TO GO WITH YOU WHEN

1:23:29 YOU BRING THE MACHINE TO THE

1:23:30 TOWN.

1:23:31 UM.

1:23:31 ALL RIGHT.

1:23:33 SO ALL RIGHT, SO DO WE, UH.

1:23:35 SO ALI I BELIEVE SO.

1:23:36 RIGHT.

1:23:37 ALI, UM, TALKED ABOUT

1:23:38 THERE'S A HEAT MAP.

1:23:40 IS IT CITY?

1:23:41 UM, DO YOU.

1:23:43 GUYS RUN THIS BECAUSE I JUST.

1:23:45 GOOGLED IT AND I COULD NOT FIND

1:23:46 IT.

1:23:47 I'M NOT EXACTLY.

1:23:49 SURE WHAT MAP SHE WAS

1:23:50 REFERENCING.

1:23:51 WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT

1:23:52 MAPS.

1:23:52 ONE OF THEM IS THE PAN

1:23:53 NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH IS IN THE

1:23:54 BOSTON AN ACTION PLAN WHICH

1:23:56 COUNCILOR BRATTON REFERENCED.

1:23:57 WE ALSO HAVE THE HOTSPOT MODEL

1:23:58 WHICH SHOWS DIFFERENT MAPS

1:24:00 OF THROUGH ON ONE COMPLAINTS.

1:24:01 OKAY SO HERE'S.

1:24:02 MY QUESTION BECAUSE I'M GOING

1:24:03 TO.

1:24:03 COME.

1:24:04 BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND.

1:24:05 I AM.

1:24:05 CURIOUS ABOUT.

1:24:06 HOW WE ARE.

1:24:07 TRACKING THE OUTCOMES HERE.

1:24:09 HERE'S WHAT HERE ARE THE

1:24:10 INPUTS.

1:24:10 HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

1:24:11 HOW ARE WE MEASURING SUCCESS?

1:24:14 AND I LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY PUTS

1:24:16 IN A COMPLAINT HOW DO WE TRACK

1:24:18 THAT.

1:24:19 DO YOU KNOW THE INSPECTOR GOES

1:24:21 WHERE'S THE REPORT WHERE'S THE

1:24:23 TRANSPARENCY PIECE AROUND KIND

1:24:24 OF LIKE HOW WE CAN HOLD

1:24:25 OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT

1:24:27 WE'RE LEARNING.

1:24:27 WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON

1:24:29 YOUR END?

1:24:29 SO I THINK I WOULD I'M HAPPY TO

1:24:31 ANSWER THE FIRST.

1:24:31 PART AND LET JOHN SPEAK TO

1:24:33 THE UM INSPECTION PIECE.

1:24:34 SO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS

1:24:36 OF KIND OF MEASURING IMPACTS

1:24:37 OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PILOT

1:24:38 PROGRAMS IS THAT'S WHY WE'RE

1:24:40 WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH

1:24:41 ANALYTICS TO USE DIFFERENT DATA

1:24:43 .

1:24:43 COLLECTION TOOLS.

1:24:44 WHAT WE DO IS WE COLLECT A

1:24:46 BASELINE AT A SITE SO BASELINE

1:24:47 ROAD AND POPULATION THEN WE

1:24:49 DEPLOY A MITIGATION TOOL

1:24:51 WHETHER THAT BE A BARREL TOPPER

1:24:53 OR A NEW DUMPSTER AT THE

1:24:55 COMMONWEALTH SITE OR WHETHER IT

1:24:57 BE USING THE BOROUGH RECS

1:24:58 MACHINE.

1:24:58 AND THEN AFTER WE DO.

1:25:00 THAT INTERVENTION AND DEPLOY.

1:25:01 THAT INTERVENTION, WE CONTINUE

1:25:02 TO COLLECT.

1:25:03 DATA AND MEASURE THE.

1:25:04 IMPACT OF THE SUCCESSFUL NESS

1:25:05 OF THAT DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAT

1:25:07 WILL HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND

1:25:09 WHICH TOOL AND WHICH SOLUTION

1:25:10 IS MOST EFFECTIVE.

1:25:11 IS THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION.

1:25:13 SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONTINUING.

1:25:15 TO COLLECT THE DATA ON ALL

1:25:16 OF THESE DIFFERENT TOOLS.

1:25:17 OUR GOAL IS TO PUT TOGETHER A

1:25:19 COMPREHENSIVE REPORT THAT WOULD

1:25:20 BE PUBLIC ON OUR WEBSITE

1:25:21 SHOWING KIND OF THE IMPACT

1:25:22 OF SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT

1:25:23 TOOLS AND STRATEGIES THAT

1:25:24 WOULD.

1:25:24 BE REALLY HELP.

1:25:25 AND JOHN CAN SPEAK TO.

1:25:25 ENFORCEMENT AND THEN.

1:25:26 WHEN WE GET A COMPLAINT.

1:25:28 IT COMES THROUGH THE 311

1:25:30 SYSTEM.

1:25:30 UM THEY GET A RESPONSE ON THE

1:25:33 INSPECTION.

1:25:34 SO IF YOU'RE WELL IF YOU USE

1:25:35 THE APP IF YOU CALL YOU SHOULD

1:25:37 SAVE THE CASE NUMBER.

1:25:38 SO YOU CALL BACK AND GET A

1:25:40 RESPONSE ON WHAT THE.

1:25:42 NOTES WERE.

1:25:42 FROM THE INSPECTOR.

1:25:43 SO THAT GOES BACK.

1:25:44 BUT IF A VIOLATION IS WRITTEN A

1:25:46 CASE IS CREATED.

1:25:47 IT'S A WRITTEN.

1:25:48 VIOLATION SERVED BY A

1:25:50 CONSTABLE.

1:25:51 THERE IS A PREMISE REPORT.

1:25:53 SO EVERY TIME AN INSPECTOR DOES

1:25:55 AN INSPECTION HE WRITES A UH

1:25:57 PREMISE REPORT.

1:25:58 OF.

1:25:58 WHAT IT'S FINDING AND.

1:25:59 HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE CHARGING

1:26:00 FOLKS?

1:26:01 WE DON'T WE?

1:26:02 IT'S NOT A FINE.

1:26:03 IT'S A.

1:26:03 REMEDIAL.

1:26:04 UH.

1:26:04 WE NEED TO.

1:26:05 START FINDING PEOPLE.

1:26:06 SO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THE

1:26:08 PUNITIVE UH, SIDE SO WE WORK

1:26:11 CLOSELY WITH THEM IF THERE IS

1:26:12 UH, AN ISSUE THAT UH SOMETIMES

1:26:15 USING.

1:26:16 BOTH SO.

1:26:17 THE IMMEDIATE PUNITIVE.

1:26:18 FINE AND THEN THE REMEDIAL.

1:26:20 VIOLATION UH VIOLATIONS END UP

1:26:22 IN HOUSING COURT.

1:26:23 SO IT'S NOT.

1:26:24 JUST A TICKET WE WRITE A.

1:26:25 VIOLATION WE.

1:26:25 SERVED BY A CONSTABLE.

1:26:27 UM, AND THEN IF IT'S NOT

1:26:29 CORRECTED AFTER.

1:26:30 THE MULTIPLE TIMES.

1:26:31 WE GIVE A CHANCE.

1:26:32 AFTER RE INSPECTIONS.

1:26:34 IT'S SENT TO.

1:26:35 HOUSING COURT.

1:26:36 TO, UH, GET A RESOLUTION.

1:26:38 AND THAT TIME AS A THANK.

1:26:39 YOU THAT CAN.

1:26:40 UM NEXT UP, UH,

1:26:43 COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE COUNCIL YOU

1:26:44 HAVE THE FLOOR.

1:26:45 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

1:26:46 AND I JUST LIKE TO NOTE MOST

1:26:47 OF.

1:26:47 THE THINGS THAT NEW YORK

1:26:48 DOES.

1:26:48 THEY COPY FROM US.

1:26:49 OKAY.

1:26:50 UM AND SO I WANT.

1:26:52 TO THANK THIS PANEL.

1:26:53 FOR BEING HERE.

1:26:54 UM.

1:26:55 I WANT TO THANK.

1:26:57 UH WE.

1:26:58 SO I'M GONNA.

1:26:59 WE JUST.

1:27:00 HOSTED, UH, RAP SUMMIT AND I

1:27:02 LOVE THIS IS A SECOND MATT

1:27:03 SUMMIT THAT EVER HAS HAPPENED.

1:27:05 THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE

1:27:06 HOSTED IN BOSTON.

1:27:08 I I KNOW THAT I MISSED THE, UH,

1:27:10 BEGINNING OF THIS AND SO I

1:27:12 WOULD LOVE TO KNOW TOP LINES

1:27:16 WHAT WE LEARNED LIKE WHAT WERE

1:27:18 THE TOP LINE FROM THAT?

1:27:20 SORRY IF I MISSED THAT.

1:27:20 I WANT TO THANK ALL THE

1:27:21 ADVOCATES AND EVERYONE FOR

1:27:22 COMING OUT.

1:27:22 THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH WORK DONE

1:27:24 BY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL IN

1:27:25 TERMS OF LIKE HOW ARE WE

1:27:27 DEALING WITH THIS VERY

1:27:28 IMPORTANT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE

1:27:29 THAT WE GET FROM ALL OF OUR

1:27:31 RESIDENTS?

1:27:32 UH MY BIRTHDAY WE WERE HERE A

1:27:33 FEW YEARS AGO TALKING ABOUT

1:27:35 SOMETHING LIKE BIRTH CONTROL.

1:27:36 WHICH WE.

1:27:37 WORKED WITH A LOCAL

1:27:38 NONPROFIT AND WE DID A PILOT IN

1:27:40 UH JAMAICA PLAIN AND SORT

1:27:42 OF FOLLOWED THAT AND HUNTED

1:27:43 THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SEE

1:27:45 THAT THE RESULTS WERE NOT WHERE

1:27:47 WE WANTED THEM TO BE, BUT WE'RE

1:27:48 PART OF IT.

1:27:49 I KNOW WHEN I WAS UH BEFORE THE

1:27:51 BEACON HEALTH CIVIC ASSOCIATION

1:27:53 ,ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I

1:27:54 HEARD THERE WAS MIC LACED TRASH

1:27:56 CANS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE

1:27:57 SORT OF DONE ANY WORK EXPLORING

1:27:59 LOOKING INTO THAT.

1:28:00 UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS IT

1:28:03 IS CARBON MONOXIDE AND SO OUR

1:28:04 INCREASED USAGE OF THAT UM.

1:28:07 THIS COUNCIL HAS THOUGHT A LOT

1:28:09 ABOUT CONTAINERIZATION AND WHAT

1:28:10 THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

1:28:12 WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COLLAPSIBLE

1:28:13 BINS.

1:28:13 WHERE DO WE STAND WITH

1:28:15 COLLAPSIBLE BINS?

1:28:17 UM AND ALSO I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF

1:28:19 OUR UH COMPOST BINS CURRENTLY

1:28:23 IF THEY ARE RODENT RESISTANT.

1:28:25 UM ARE THEY VERSION RESISTANT?

1:28:28 YES THEY I HAVEN'T GOT A REPORT

1:28:30 THAT A RAT UM SINCE THE

1:28:31 BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM.

1:28:33 YOU KNOW WE WE MET AT THE

1:28:34 BEGINNING OF IT TO LOOK AT THE

1:28:36 BARREL AND AND WE THOUGHT IT

1:28:37 WAS A.

1:28:38 GOOD UM A GOOD BARREL TO.

1:28:40 TO STORE FOOD IN.

1:28:41 AND I HAVEN'T HAD ONE REPORT

1:28:43 OF OF A RECKONING AND INSIDE.

1:28:45 OKAY.

1:28:46 THANK YOU I THINK EXPANSION

1:28:47 OF THAT OF OUR COMPOSTING WOULD

1:28:49 HELP TO ALSO REDUCE THE RAT

1:28:51 LIKE IT WHEN DONE CORRECTLY

1:28:53 WOULD HELP TO REDUCE OUR LEVEL

1:28:55 OF RODENT ACTIVITY.

1:28:56 UM WE ALSO HAD A HEARING A FEW

1:28:58 WEEKS AGO WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT

1:28:59 PROJECT OSCAR UM AND WE SAW

1:29:01 WHERE THERE WERE PROJECT OSCAR

1:29:02 THERE IT WAS NOTICEABLE THAT IN

1:29:04 MATTAPAN UH A NEIGHBORHOOD I

1:29:05 THINK HAS BEEN HE WAS TALKING

1:29:07 ABOUT IT WHERE A LOT OF THE

1:29:08 COMPOSTING AND RECYCLING IN

1:29:10 COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY BLACK

1:29:11 COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY

1:29:11 IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY

1:29:12 HAPPENS NATURALLY.

1:29:14 SO THERE'S GOOD SYNERGY THERE.

1:29:15 I THINK FOR US TO REALLY MAKE

1:29:17 SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING A

1:29:18 PROJECT OSCAR IN A PLACE IN

1:29:19 MATTAPAN THAT PEOPLE CAN USE.

1:29:21 SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE

1:29:22 THAT YOU'RE TALKING WITH CHIEF

1:29:24 OSCAR AND WE'VE BEEN EMAILING

1:29:25 EMAILING ABOUT IT BUT JUST

1:29:26 WANTED TO UPLIFT THAT AS WELL.

1:29:28 UM, AND I JUST ALSO JUST WANT

1:29:30 TO GIVE A.

1:29:30 HUGE.

1:29:31 HUGE SHOUT OUT TO JOHN YORK

1:29:33 AND YOUR TEAM LIKE WE CALL YOU

1:29:36 NEIGHBORS CALL YOU LIKE WE DID

1:29:38 A RAP.

1:29:38 WE WERE OUT IN HYDE PARK FOR A

1:29:40 RAP WALK ON MONDAY.

1:29:41 UM WE DID ONE TWO WEEKS AGO.

1:29:43 SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR

1:29:45 YOUR RESPONSIVENESS WHENEVER WE

1:29:46 DO HAVE UH, RODENT ISSUES.

1:29:47 UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE

1:29:49 ANY RESIDENTS THAT DO HAVE AN

1:29:50 AREA A CONCENTRATION WITH A LOT

1:29:51 OF RODENT ACTIVITY.

1:29:52 WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE DOING

1:29:54 RAT WALKS.

1:29:55 EMILY.

1:29:55 IN MY OFFICE WE WE DO THEM ALL

1:29:57 THE TIME ALONGSIDE YOUR OFFICE.

1:29:58 SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR

1:30:00 THAT AND I GUESS THE THE MAIN

1:30:02 QUESTION IS WHAT IS IT THAT WE

1:30:04 LEARNED FROM THE FROM THE RAT

1:30:05 SUMMIT AND ARE THERE CITIES

1:30:07 THAT ARE DOING INNOVATIVE WORK

1:30:08 THAT WE AREN'T DOING THAT WE

1:30:10 SHOULD BE DOING?

1:30:11 YEAH.

1:30:11 THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE

1:30:13 QUESTIONS AND I'LL GET ON THE

1:30:14 RAT SUMMIT PIECE BUT JUST WANT

1:30:15 TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROJECT OSCAR

1:30:16 PIECE.

1:30:17 SO IN ADDITION TO REPLACING ALL

1:30:18 OF THE BARRELS UH IN MATTAPAN

1:30:20 SQUARE WITH RODENT RESISTANT

1:30:21 BINS UM I KNOW YOU AND CHIEF

1:30:23 OUTGOING HAVE BEEN TALKING

1:30:23 ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'RE ALSO

1:30:24 WORKING ON A NEW PROJECT OSCAR

1:30:26 SITE FOR MATTAPAN AS WELL.

1:30:27 UM, SO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT

1:30:28 THAT FIRST BUT UH, AS YOU

1:30:30 MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE REASON

1:30:31 THAT BOSTON WAS SELECTED AS THE

1:30:33 SECOND, YOU KNOW, LOCATION FOR

1:30:35 THE NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT IS

1:30:36 BECAUSE A LOT OF THE INNOVATIVE

1:30:38 WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN

1:30:39 THE CITY AND A LOT OF THE

1:30:40 PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING AS

1:30:42 IT COMPARES TO MANY OF OUR

1:30:43 OTHER CITIES NATIONWIDE.

1:30:44 AND SO WHAT HAPPENED, UH, ON

1:30:46 THE 23RD AND 24TH OF SEPTEMBER

1:30:48 WAS OVER 100 DIFFERENT ACADEMIC

1:30:50 CITIES.

1:30:51 UH, RESEARCH PROFESSIONALS CAME

1:30:52 TO BOSTON AND THE GOAL WAS

1:30:53 REALLY SHARE AND EDUCATE.

1:30:55 UM, SO WE HAD A LOT

1:30:57 OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES

1:30:57 AND THINGS WE TOOK AWAY, BUT WE

1:30:59 ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO

1:31:00 SHARE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT

1:31:01 WE'RE DOING.

1:31:01 UH, AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY

1:31:03 TO ALSO MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT

1:31:04 CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER CITIES

1:31:05 THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK TO

1:31:07 SUCH AS SEATTLE, UM, FOLKS IN

1:31:08 CALIFORNIA ABOUT WORK THAT

1:31:10 THEY'RE DOING THAT WE CAN

1:31:11 IMPLEMENT HERE IN THE CITY

1:31:12 OF BOSTON.

1:31:13 SOME OF.

1:31:13 THE KEY TAKEAWAYS TO GET

1:31:14 DIRECTLY TO YOUR QUESTION IS

1:31:16 THAT, YOU KNOW, CITIES ARE

1:31:17 CITIES.

1:31:17 CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY FACE

1:31:18 A SIMILAR CHALLENGE.

1:31:19 UM.

1:31:20 YOU KNOW, OLD INFRASTRUCTURE,

1:31:22 ABUNDANCE OF FOOD, PLACES FOR

1:31:23 RATS TO HIDE.

1:31:24 UH, AND WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS

1:31:25 ON THOSE THREE AREAS TO HELP

1:31:27 REDUCE RODENT POPULATION.

1:31:28 UM, WE'VE HEARD THAT RATS ARE

1:31:30 CONTINUING TO BE A PUBLIC

1:31:31 HEALTH ISSUE AND WHY IT'S

1:31:32 REALLY IMPORTANT FOR CITIES TO

1:31:34 TAKE THIS PROACTIVE APPROACH TO

1:31:36 ADDRESS, UM, RODENT.

1:31:37 POPULATIONS BUT ALSO FOCUS ON

1:31:39 SANITATION AS MANY OF THE

1:31:40 COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HAVE SAID

1:31:41 HERE TODAY.

1:31:42 UM, AND.

1:31:42 I THINK ANOTHER REALLY.

1:31:43 BIG FOCUS UH, WAS THAT YOU

1:31:45 KNOW, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON RAT

1:31:47 POPULATIONS NOT ONLY ON THE

1:31:48 SURFACE BUT ALSO IN SUBSURFACE

1:31:49 POPULATIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE

1:31:51 REALLY FOCUSED NEXT KIND OF SIX

1:31:53 MONTHS ON, UM, HOW DO WE

1:31:54 ADDRESS RODENT POPULATIONS IN

1:31:55 THE SEWER SYSTEM AND BETTER

1:31:57 UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THOSE

1:31:58 CHALLENGES?

1:31:59 AND JUST LASTLY, I THINK THE

1:32:00 MAIN THING WE TOOK AWAY FROM

1:32:01 FROM THE SUMMIT WAS A LOT

1:32:03 OF THE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS AND

1:32:04 STRATEGIES AND TOOLS THAT WERE

1:32:05 DISCUSSED WHERE A LOT OF THE

1:32:07 THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE

1:32:08 HERE IN PLACE UH, AND THAT

1:32:10 WE'RE WORKING ON EXPANDING UH,

1:32:11 AND SO I THINK IT WAS A REALLY

1:32:12 GOOD REFLECTION MOMENT FOR US

1:32:13 TO SHARE OUT UM, BUT ALSO LEARN

1:32:15 KIND OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD

1:32:16 CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON GOING

1:32:17 FORWARD.

1:32:17 THANK YOU.

1:32:18 AND AND I THINK IT'S REALLY

1:32:19 SMART TO HAVE IT AS A DATA

1:32:20 DRIVEN I KNOW THERE'S MORE

1:32:21 CAMERAS.

1:32:22 THANK YOU JOE FOR THE WORK THAT

1:32:23 YOU'RE DOING.

1:32:23 THANK YOU TO BJ FOR THE WORK

1:32:24 YOU'RE DOING.

1:32:25 I THINK IT'S REALLY UH THE

1:32:26 CAMERAS HOPEFULLY WILL BE

1:32:27 HELPFUL THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE

1:32:29 MIDDLE EAST AND THAT'S.

1:32:31 SO WE HAVE IT.

1:32:32 THE ONLY.

1:32:32 THING THAT.

1:32:33 I KNOW I'VE WE'VE TALKED

1:32:33 ABOUT THIS AND YOU'RE NOT YOU

1:32:34 DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS I.

1:32:36 WE HAVEN'T.

1:32:36 SEEN IT WORK.

1:32:37 UM YEAH YEAH AND.

1:32:39 I TALKED TO DOCTOR.

1:32:40 CORRIGAN AND SOME OF THE OTHER.

1:32:41 UH, PROFESSIONALS.

1:32:42 UM IT IS.

1:32:43 IT IS WIDELY.

1:32:45 MARKETED AS AS A TOOL.

1:32:47 THE ONLY.

1:32:47 THING THAT WE'VE.

1:32:48 SEEN THAT WORKS ON BARRELS IS

1:32:50 USING, UH, 10% BLEACH AND WATER

1:32:53 AND SPRITZING THE BARRELS, UH,

1:32:56 SPRITZING TRASH BAGS.

1:32:58 THAT'S THE BEST DETERRENT.

1:33:00 UM, RATS REALLY DON'T LIKE IT

1:33:01 BUT.

1:33:02 MEANT.

1:33:03 UM, YOU KNOW, THERE.

1:33:04 WAS A STUDY DONE.

1:33:06 UM, AND UH, THE FOLKS THAT I

1:33:09 HAVE TALKED TO UH, NOT REALLY

1:33:10 IMPRESSED AND HAVEN'T SEEN IT

1:33:12 WORK.

1:33:12 THANK YOU.

1:33:13 THANK YOU JOHN.

1:33:14 THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM

1:33:14 AND FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO

1:33:15 APPRECIATE THANK.

1:33:15 YOU.

1:33:16 THANK YOU.

1:33:17 UH, NEXT UP IS UM WE'RE ALSO

1:33:20 UM, HAVE BEEN JOINED BY CITY

1:33:23 COUNCIL BRIAN.

1:33:23 WORLD BRIAN WORLD EUROPE.

1:33:25 UH THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK

1:33:27 YOU FOR.

1:33:28 HOLDING THIS HEARING AND YOUR

1:33:29 LEADERSHIP ON THIS MATTER.

1:33:30 AND I KNOW A LOT OF MY OTHER

1:33:31 COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HAVE UH,

1:33:33 DOVE INTO UM, UM, THIS MATTER

1:33:36 AS WELL.

1:33:37 SO JUST THANK YOU TO ALL MY

1:33:38 COLLEAGUES AS WELL.

1:33:39 UM.

1:33:40 WHEN IT COMES TO.

1:33:41 FIRST I WANT TO SHOUT OUT JOHN

1:33:42 YOUR OWN ENTIRE TEAM BOBBY IS A

1:33:45 ROCK STAR IN THE COMMUNITY.

1:33:47 UM, WOULD.

1:33:49 HOW I.

1:33:50 AND I WOULD LOVE TO ADVOCATE

1:33:53 FOR, YOU KNOW, US TO KEEP OUR

1:33:55 TECHNICIANS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

1:33:56 FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME

1:33:58 BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS

1:33:59 THAT DO THEY ROTATE?

1:34:01 YES.

1:34:02 OKAY.

1:34:02 YEAH.

1:34:03 YEAH, THE WARDS ROTATE.

1:34:05 UM IT'S NOT ON A SPECIFIC.

1:34:06 SCHEDULE BUT IT'S USUALLY

1:34:08 YEARLY OKAY.

1:34:09 THEY THEY MOVE AROUND SOME

1:34:10 INSPECT TO STAY UM, BUT UH

1:34:13 SOMETIMES.

1:34:14 JUST STAFFING NEEDS AND YOU

1:34:16 KNOW, PEOPLE GO OUT UM SO IT'S

1:34:18 JUST THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT.

1:34:20 IT IS.

1:34:20 GOT IT.

1:34:21 UM.

1:34:22 WE WANT TO ADVOCATE TO KEEP

1:34:24 BOBBY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST

1:34:25 BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE

1:34:26 STRATEGIES THAT ARE, UM,

1:34:28 WORKING RIGHT.

1:34:30 AND WHEN THE STRATEGIES ARE

1:34:31 WORKING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A

1:34:32 NEW TECHNICIAN COME IN AND

1:34:34 IMPLEMENT A NEW STRATEGY AND

1:34:35 NOT KNOW.

1:34:36 UM, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY PASS

1:34:38 NOTES BUT UM, I THINK WHEN

1:34:39 WE'RE KEEPING IT CONSISTENT

1:34:41 WITH ONE TECHNICIAN UH, THAT

1:34:43 STRATEGY CAN, YOU KNOW,

1:34:44 CONTINUE TO WORK AND NOT TRY TO

1:34:46 DEVIATE FROM IT.

1:34:47 UM, WHEN.

1:34:48 WHEN THERE'S RAT PROBLEMS ARE

1:34:50 ANY OF THESE AREAS DO THEY

1:34:53 TRANSITION OVER TO THE PROBLEM

1:34:54 PROPERTY TASK FORCE OR IS

1:34:57 PUBLIC PROPERTY JUST SOLELY

1:34:59 LIKE NOISE COMPLAINTS POLICE

1:35:01 COMPLAINTS OR DOES IT INCLUDE,

1:35:02 YOU KNOW, RAT ISSUES AS WELL?

1:35:04 I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK A LITTLE

1:35:05 BIT.

1:35:06 TO THIS.

1:35:06 SO THE.

1:35:07 PROBLEM PROPERTIES.

1:35:07 TASK FORCE IS UM.

1:35:09 A COMPREHENSIVE ORGANIZATION

1:35:10 THAT FOCUSES ON ALL.

1:35:12 QUALITY OF LIFE.

1:35:12 CHALLENGES UM LOUD PARTIES OR

1:35:15 RAT COMPLAINTS.

1:35:16 AND SO JOHN AND.

1:35:17 HIS TEAM AS WELL AS MYSELF WE.

1:35:19 SIT ON THE MONTHLY PROBLEM

1:35:20 PROPERTIES TASK FORCE MEETINGS

1:35:21 AND ANY PROPERTY THAT HAS.

1:35:23 A, YOU KNOW, PROLONGED.

1:35:25 RODENT CHALLENGE THAT WE COULD

1:35:26 USE SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE.

1:35:27 OPERATIONS TEAM ON.

1:35:28 WE UPLIFT THAT ADDRESS AND

1:35:30 THEN.

1:35:30 WORK TOGETHER.

1:35:31 WITH THE OTHER DIVISIONS

1:35:31 THERE TO ADDRESS THAT

1:35:32 CHALLENGE.

1:35:33 AWESOME.

1:35:33 AND WHEN IT COMES I KNOW A

1:35:35 LOT OF OUR RAT ISSUES ARE ON

1:35:37 THE EXTERIOR.

1:35:38 UM, AND SOMETIMES YOU KNOW WHEN

1:35:40 I'M TALKING HOMES OR YOU KNOW,

1:35:41 PROPERTIES WHERE UH BOBBY YOU

1:35:44 COULD SEE LIKE AN INFESTATION,

1:35:47 RIGHT?

1:35:48 WHAT WHAT WARRANT US TO THEN

1:35:50 DECIDE TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT

1:35:52 THE INSIDE.

1:35:54 SO WE WE WOULD NEED PERMISSION.

1:35:56 EITHER BY A TENANT OR THE OWNER

1:35:59 TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY.

1:36:00 UM, IF WE.

1:36:01 BELIEVE THAT THE RODENT

1:36:03 PROBLEMS ARE INSIDE THE

1:36:05 BUILDING, WE WOULD REFER

1:36:07 REFERRED TO, UH, ENFORCEMENT

1:36:09 INVESTIGATION TEAM AT I AND

1:36:10 STEVE FLAVIO.

1:36:11 UM, AND THEY WOULD TRY TO GAIN

1:36:14 ACCESS THE UH ENFORCEMENT AN

1:36:16 INVESTIGATION TEAM HAS A

1:36:17 BUILDING INSPECTOR, A HOUSING

1:36:19 INSPECTOR, AN ENVIRONMENTAL

1:36:20 INSPECTOR.

1:36:21 UM, FLAVIO WAS THE THE DIRECTOR

1:36:23 AND SO THEY WORK.

1:36:24 ON COMPLICATED ISSUES, UM,

1:36:26 ACCESSING PROPERTY BORDERS AND

1:36:29 STUFF LIKE THAT.

1:36:30 SO WE WOULD REFER TO.

1:36:31 THAT TEAM TO SEE IF WE COULD

1:36:33 GET ACCESS TO TO THE INSIDE.

1:36:34 AWESOME.

1:36:35 AND THEN UH, ANOTHER PROGRAM

1:36:37 UM THAT I'M A BIG FAN OF IS

1:36:39 GRAFFITI BUSTERS.

1:36:40 UM, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO UH,

1:36:42 WORK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY UH,

1:36:44 WHERE MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE

1:36:46 NOT.

1:36:47 ABLE TO DO WORK ON PRIVATE

1:36:48 PROPERTY.

1:36:49 WE PASSED THAT RESPONSIBILITY

1:36:51 OFF TO THE, UH, LANDLORD.

1:36:53 HOW DO WE GAIN THAT SAME, UM,

1:36:56 ACCESS OR THE SAME UM.

1:37:00 SO THE THE CHALLENGE IS.

1:37:02 THAT, UM.

1:37:03 WHAT WE ARE.

1:37:05 ABLE TO DO.

1:37:07 WE IT TAKES MORE.

1:37:09 THAN, UH, DOING PRIVATE

1:37:11 PROPERTIES FOR PEST CONTROL.

1:37:13 SO.

1:37:14 UM, IN AN ISSUE.

1:37:15 WHERE IT'S, UH, A SAFETY.

1:37:17 ISSUE.

1:37:18 WE MIGHT BE.

1:37:19 ABLE TO.

1:37:20 DO A.

1:37:20 TREATMENT ONCE.

1:37:21 OKAY.

1:37:21 UM, BUT WHAT THEY WOULD.

1:37:23 STILL NEED PEST CONTROL.

1:37:25 BECAUSE IT TAKES MULTIPLE AND

1:37:26 THEY REALLY NEED A, UH, LICENSE

1:37:29 TAG TO MANAGE IT.

1:37:30 GOT IT.

1:37:31 UM, AND.

1:37:33 UM, I KNOW EVERY BUILDING OR

1:37:36 EVERY THAT THERE WAS A TRASH

1:37:38 PLANT ORDINANCE FOR.

1:37:40 UM.

1:37:41 I CAN'T REMEMBER.

1:37:42 I THINK IT WAS LIKE LARGE

1:37:43 COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

1:37:44 IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE A

1:37:45 TRASH PLAN.

1:37:45 UH.

1:37:46 DO WE KNOW IF LIKE WE AT IN

1:37:49 TERMS OF DOES EVERY BUILDING

1:37:51 HAVE A TRASH TRASH PLAN?

1:37:54 SO I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH

1:37:56 THE THE CHANCELLOR BUT I THINK

1:37:57 WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON.

1:37:58 THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.

1:37:59 ALL RIGHT.

1:37:59 AND UH.

1:38:01 UH AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS

1:38:03 UH, LUKE, YOU SPOKE.

1:38:05 ON UM, A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT

1:38:06 THAT'S GOING TO BE UPLOADED

1:38:08 ONLINE.

1:38:08 WELL, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE?

1:38:09 YEAH.

1:38:10 GREAT QUESTION.

1:38:11 SO UM, RIGHT NOW.

1:38:12 WE'RE TRYING TO.

1:38:13 KIND OF MEASURE.

1:38:14 SEASONALITY IMPACTS.

1:38:16 AND SO RIGHT NOW OVER THE.

1:38:17 WINTER WE'RE GOING TO BE

1:38:18 GETTING DATA ON UM.

1:38:19 SUBSURFACE POPULATIONS IN THE

1:38:21 SEWERS.

1:38:21 WE'RE INSTALLING.

1:38:22 AUDIO DEVICES AND DATA

1:38:23 COLLECTION.

1:38:23 TOOLS IN THE NORTH END IN THE

1:38:25 SOUTH AND SOUTH BOSTON IN THE

1:38:26 COMING WEEKS.

1:38:27 UM.

1:38:27 AND THEN AS THE TEMPERATURES

1:38:28 .

1:38:29 RISE UH, IN THE SPRING PROBABLY

1:38:31 LIKE UM LATE MARCH, EARLY APRIL

1:38:33 WILL.

1:38:34 DEPLOY ANOTHER ROUND OF THE

1:38:35 SURFACE SENSORS TO MEASURE.

1:38:37 THE IMPACTS AT THE

1:38:38 COMMONWEALTH.

1:38:38 UH, AND THEN.

1:38:39 AFTER THAT DATA COLLECTION AND

1:38:41 ANALYSIS WILL PRODUCE.

1:38:42 A REPORT UM, SOMETIME

1:38:43 HOPEFULLY BY THE SUMMER OF NEXT

1:38:45 YEAR.

1:38:45 ALL RIGHT.

1:38:46 THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL

1:38:48 FOR ALWAYS BEING SUPER

1:38:49 RESPONSIVE AND SHOUT OUT TO

1:38:51 EACH OF YOUR TEAMS AND UH ALSO

1:38:53 SHOUT OUT TO MY GUY BOBBY.

1:38:56 THANK YOU THANK.

1:38:57 YOU.

1:38:58 THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL.

1:39:00 UM I'M ALSO GOING TO TAKE FIVE

1:39:02 MINUTES I'LL MAKE SURE I KEEP

1:39:04 MYSELF UM UNDER THAT TIME AS

1:39:06 WELL.

1:39:13 I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE

1:39:14 ADMINISTRATION PANEL FOR BEING

1:39:15 HERE.

1:39:16 I ESPECIALLY WANT TO SAY THANK

1:39:17 YOU TO THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE

1:39:19 TESTIFIED IN PERSON AND IN ZOOM

1:39:22 AS WELL.

1:39:23 LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC

1:39:24 TESTIMONY MAKES IT A BETTER

1:39:26 HEARING BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND

1:39:28 EXACTLY THE CONCERNS FROM

1:39:30 RESIDENTS.

1:39:31 I ALSO RECEIVED PROBABLY 30 UH

1:39:34 ,PIECES OF TESTIMONY FROM UH

1:39:37 RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY.

1:39:38 I'M NOT GOING TO READ THAT INTO

1:39:40 THE RECORD BUT I MIGHT I MIGHT

1:39:42 HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS LATER

1:39:43 .

1:39:44 UM, PEST CONTROL IS CRITICAL TO

1:39:47 OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE

1:39:49 AS RATS AND RODENTS ARE NOT

1:39:51 ONLY A NUISANCE BUT THEY ALSO

1:39:53 IMPACT PUBLIC HEALTH,

1:39:56 SANITIZATION OF OUR

1:39:56 NEIGHBORHOODS, MAINTENANCE

1:39:57 OF OUR PROPERTIES, PUBLIC

1:39:59 SAFETY JUST YESTERDAY I

1:40:01 RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A

1:40:03 NEIGHBOR IN SOUTH BOSTON WHO

1:40:04 WAS COMING HOME FROM A WALK AND

1:40:06 TOLD ME THAT A RAT JUMPED INTO

1:40:08 HIS SON'S STROLLER.

1:40:13 UNACCEPTABLE.

1:40:18 FOLLOWING LAST YEAR'S RELEASE

1:40:20 OF THE CITY'S BOSTON ROAD AN

1:40:21 ACTION PLAN, IT IS IMPORTANT TO

1:40:24 REVIEW THE INITIATIVES IN

1:40:25 DELIVERING RESULTS.

1:40:26 FOR YEARS I HAVE ASKED US TO

1:40:29 PRIORITIZE ISSUES OF TRASH

1:40:32 CONTAINERIZATION ACROSS THE

1:40:33 CITY AND CLOSE RODENT RESISTANT

1:40:35 PUBLIC TRASH BARRELS, PEST

1:40:37 CONTROL AROUND SEWERS AND

1:40:39 NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS.

1:40:41 I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO CRITICAL

1:40:43 THAT WE LAUNCH A MASSIVE PUBLIC

1:40:45 AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING

1:40:47 IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH

1:40:49 AS WELL THAT INCLUDES LANGUAGE

1:40:51 ACCESS, TRANSLATION UM, SO THAT

1:40:54 ALL RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THEIR

1:40:56 RESPONSIBILITIES TO WORK

1:40:57 TOGETHER ON A PROBLEM THAT HAS

1:40:59 NOW LEFT US RATED THE TOP TEN

1:41:02 MOST RODENT INFESTED CITIES IN

1:41:05 AMERICA.

1:41:08 I'D ALSO LIKE TO US TO REVISIT

1:41:11 THE RECOMMENDATION OF BOTH THE

1:41:13 STUDY'S OWN AUTHOR DOCTOR

1:41:15 CORRIGAN AND MYSELF FOR THE

1:41:18 CREATION OF A DEDICATED

1:41:19 POSITION OF RATS.

1:41:20 UM, WE RECEIVED PUBLIC

1:41:23 TESTIMONY ALREADY, UH, FROM

1:41:25 DAVID IN THE SOUTH END

1:41:28 RECOMMENDING THE SAME.

1:41:31 BACK WHEN I WAS CITY

1:41:33 COUNCIL PRESIDENT I SPOKE WITH

1:41:34 THE NEW YORK CITY RATS.

1:41:36 UH, KATHLEEN KARATE AT THAT

1:41:39 TIME ON THIS ISSUE WE LEARNED A

1:41:41 LOT FROM HER AND FROM THAT

1:41:43 CONVERSATION AND FROM MY

1:41:46 EXPERIENCE WORKING ON THIS

1:41:47 ISSUE WITH COUNCILOR BRATTON

1:41:49 WITH SO MANY OTHER CITY

1:41:50 COUNCILORS.

1:41:51 UM, I PUSHED THE CITY TO

1:41:55 ESTABLISH THE WROTE AN ACTION

1:41:56 PLAN THAT I WAS ACTIVELY

1:41:57 INVOLVED IN.

1:41:58 BUT THE THE ONE RECOMMENDATION

1:42:00 THAT WAS NOT UM INCLUDED WAS

1:42:03 THE RATS UH, BASICALLY A

1:42:07 STANDALONE CITY DEPARTMENT THAT

1:42:09 WOULD COORDINATE ALL ACTIVITIES

1:42:11 AS IT RELATES TO PEST CONTROL

1:42:13 THAT IS CRITICALLY NEEDED.

1:42:16 WE NEED TO HAVE CONCRETE

1:42:18 MEASURES IN PLACE TO ADEQUATELY

1:42:20 TACKLE THE RISE IN RODENT

1:42:22 ACTIVITIES, THE SPREAD

1:42:23 OF POTENTIAL DISEASES.

1:42:24 IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH AS WELL UM,

1:42:27 INCLUDING MORE INSPECTIONS,

1:42:28 WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS, PUBLIC

1:42:30 AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, PUBLIC

1:42:32 OUTREACH WE NEED TO GET THIS

1:42:34 RIGHT SO THE PEOPLE CONTINUED

1:42:35 TO STAY IN THE CITY CALL BOSTON

1:42:38 HOME.

1:42:39 IT'S THAT SERIOUS WHEN A RAT IS

1:42:41 IN A CHILD'S CRIB OR STROLLER

1:42:46 WE CAN'T IGNORE IT.

1:42:52 SOME PUBLIC TESTIMONY TESTIMONY

1:42:55 ALREADY INCLUDED UH, PHRASES

1:42:57 SUCH AS WE HAVE A SERIOUS

1:42:59 PROBLEM TRASH DUMPING.

1:43:04 THE THE WAY WE UM COMPOST IS

1:43:07 NOW BEING REDUCED FROM WEEKLY

1:43:11 TO BIWEEKLY.

1:43:12 UH, NEED MORE LICE INSPECT

1:43:15 LICENSED INSPECTORS.

1:43:16 UH, THE SOMEONE MENTIONS THE

1:43:18 CITY NOT MAINTAINING THEIR OWN

1:43:20 PROPERTY A CHRONIC PROBLEM.

1:43:22 THERE'S SOME.

1:43:23 THERE'S SOME DISCONNECT BETWEEN

1:43:26 UM, WHAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED, LUKE

1:43:28 UM, ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING

1:43:30 WELL AND WHAT RESIDENTS ARE

1:43:32 EXPERIENCING IN THEIR OWN

1:43:33 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:43:34 UM, WHEN RESIDENTS TELL ME THAT

1:43:36 THERE ARE RATS IN THE BABY'S

1:43:39 CRIB OR IN THEIR STROLLER AND I

1:43:42 SEE THEM ON MY STREET IN SOUTH

1:43:43 BOSTON ON GOLD STREET WITH

1:43:45 FLOODED WITH RATS.

1:43:49 IT HAS NOT IMPROVED.

1:43:51 IT'S GOTTEN WORSE.

1:43:53 IT'S A MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH

1:43:56 PUBLIC SAFETY QUALITY OF LIFE

1:43:58 ISSUE.

1:44:00 WE NEED TO STREAMLINE THE

1:44:02 PROCESS AND PROVIDE EXECUTIVE

1:44:07 LEADERSHIP, POSITIVE LEADERSHIP

1:44:08 AND JOHN OLIVER EXTOLLING THE

1:44:09 BEST HE CAN UNDER CHALLENGING

1:44:12 CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE RESPECT FOR

1:44:13 JOHN BUT THE THE GOAL OF PEST

1:44:16 CONTROL NEEDS TO BE ELEVATED.

1:44:19 UM I DO WANT TO KEEP MYSELF TO

1:44:21 THE FIVE MINUTES UM THAT'S

1:44:25 CHAIR I DON'T I DON'T TAKE THE

1:44:26 OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO

1:44:27 SPEAK.

1:44:29 UM SO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE.

1:44:31 I DO WANT TO CONTINUE WITH

1:44:33 PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND AFTER

1:44:35 PUBLIC TESTIMONY I DO WANT TO

1:44:37 GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL'S UM

1:44:39 BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

1:44:40 TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE

1:44:43 ALREADY TESTIFIED FROM THE BAY

1:44:45 VILLAGE CHINATOWN, SOUTH AND

1:44:47 SOUTH BOSTON, BACK BAY MANY IN

1:44:51 MY MANY IN MY UM IN DISTRICT

1:44:53 TWO.

1:44:57 SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WITH

1:44:58 PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:45:00 UM I'M GOING TO DO A COUPLE

1:45:01 VIRTUAL AND THEN I'M GOING TO

1:45:03 DO A COUPLE UM IN PERSON.

1:45:07 SO LET ME ASK.

1:45:12 I MAY HAVE MISSED HER ALREADY

1:45:14 BECAUSE JILL HAD A JILL TOLD

1:45:18 ME SHE WAS LEAVING AT 1115.

1:45:20 I MAY HAVE MISSED HER AND IF I

1:45:23 DID I APOLOGIZE BUT IS JILL

1:45:25 STILL WITH US?

1:45:25 I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET HER,

1:45:27 UM, TO TESTIFY IF SHE'S STILL

1:45:30 ON WITH US.

1:45:34 JILL.

1:45:41 OKAY.

1:45:47 IN THE MEANTIME, CAN I GO TO

1:45:51 RANDY GLEN FOR A PLEASE?

1:45:58 JUST GO.

1:46:01 OKAY.

1:46:01 JILL IS OFF.

1:46:02 UM, LET'S GO TO RANDY, PLEASE.

1:46:06 I BELIEVE RANDY'S IN THE SAINT

1:46:08 P-12 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION

1:46:09 IN THE, UH.

1:46:10 IN THE IN THE BACK BAY.

1:46:12 SOUTH END AREA.

1:46:14 RANDY.

1:46:14 GOOD TO BE WITH RANDY.

1:46:15 GOOD TO BE.

1:46:16 WITH YOU.

1:46:18 YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE.

1:46:20 RANDY.

1:46:28 RANDY, ARE YOU WITH US?

1:46:37 RANDY, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

1:46:45 YOU MIGHT BE MUTED.

1:46:46 RANDY IN THE MEANTIME LET'S GO

1:46:50 TO KEVIN CONROY.

1:46:53 UM AND WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK TO

1:46:56 RANDY KEVIN CONROY.

1:47:08 WHAT'S.

1:47:10 WE NOT BE OTHER TECHNICAL

1:47:13 ISSUE SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH

1:47:14 PUBLIC TESTIMONY HERE WE GO.

1:47:15 AND HOW DO YOU THERE AND HERE I

1:47:18 AM KEVIN COREY.

1:47:19 KEVIN CONROY YUP YOU'RE UP

1:47:20 NEXT.

1:47:21 THANK YOU.

1:47:23 UM I DID SUBMIT UM WRITTEN

1:47:26 TESTIMONY BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE

1:47:28 TO KIND OF REITERATE WHAT I UH

1:47:30 ,HAD PUT INTO THAT WIFE AND I,

1:47:34 A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE CITY

1:47:36 OF.

1:47:36 BOSTON WE'VE LIVED IN SOUTH

1:47:37 BOSTON MAJORITY OF TIMES BUT UH

1:47:39 ,FEW YEARS IN SAVIN.

1:47:41 HILL.

1:47:42 WE'VE MOVED INTO THE WHITE

1:47:44 HOUSE.

1:47:45 UH, WE NOW LIVE IN IN 1997 AND

1:47:49 UP UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO, UH,

1:47:51 THINGS WERE FINE.

1:47:53 UH, ROUGHLY TWO YEARS AGO I

1:47:55 DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT ALL OF A

1:47:56 SUDDEN IT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS

1:47:58 JUST OVERRUN RATS.

1:48:00 UH, WE CAN'T USE OUR YARD.

1:48:02 BEEN UNABLE TO USE OF WILL HAVE

1:48:04 PEOPLE OVER.

1:48:05 IT'S JUST WE'VE HIRED, UH UH, A

1:48:10 PROFESSIONAL PEST CONTROL

1:48:12 COMPANY.

1:48:12 WE'VE BEEN USING THEM REGULARLY

1:48:15 PROBABLY FOR THE PAST THREE

1:48:17 YEARS.

1:48:19 AND, UH, OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE

1:48:20 TO CALL THEM FOR EXTRA, UH,

1:48:22 VISITS.

1:48:22 IT'S JUST, UH THE NEIGHBORHOOD

1:48:25 IN ITSELF IS JUST IT'S JUST

1:48:26 IT'S DISGUSTING.

1:48:28 UM, THERE IS A NEED FOR SOME

1:48:30 SORT OF CENTRAL, UH, AUTHORITY

1:48:35 THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR

1:48:38 AN OVERALL STRATEGY AS OPPOSED

1:48:40 TO JUST USING DIFFERENT

1:48:42 DEPARTMENTS WHAT THEIR WHAT

1:48:43 THEIR PLANS.

1:48:45 UH, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS BY

1:48:48 ESD AND THE THE, UH, PRESIDENT

1:48:51 TO CONTROL PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE

1:48:53 DOING THE BEST THEY CAN.

1:48:54 AS YOU SAID, THEY WERE REALLY

1:48:55 UNDER VERY CHALLENGING

1:48:57 CIRCUMSTANCES.

1:48:58 UM, ONE THING I'VE NOTICED AND

1:49:01 I THINK IT'S A BIG PROBLEM EVEN

1:49:03 SPEAKING WITH THE PEST CONTROL

1:49:04 GUY THAT THAT COMES HERE.

1:49:07 IS THE IMPROPER DISPOSAL

1:49:10 OF HOUSEHOLD TRASH GARBAGE.

1:49:11 UH, AROUND HERE THIS

1:49:14 NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIVE DOWN THE

1:49:15 LOWER END LIVED ON WEST.

1:49:16 WE LIVE ON WEST STREET.

1:49:18 WE HAVE IT IN THE GENERAL

1:49:20 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:49:21 UH, A GREAT DEAL OF PROPERTY IS

1:49:23 ABSENTEE LANDLORDS OR LLCS.

1:49:26 AND IN THE END THESE THE.

1:49:28 RESIDENTS BY AND LARGE WHEN

1:49:29 PEOPLE BUT YOU HAVE A FAIR

1:49:31 AMOUNT OF UM I CALL THEM

1:49:33 INDIFFERENT AND THE WAY THEY

1:49:34 HANDLE TRASH OR DISPOSE OF IT I

1:49:37 YEAH IT'S JUST IT'S JUST MIND

1:49:40 BOGGLING SOMETIMES WHAT I SEE

1:49:42 IS PROBLEMS WITH THESE UH MAYBE

1:49:44 YOU KNOW WITH THESE ABILITY

1:49:45 WHERE ONCE THEY HAVE A PROPERTY

1:49:46 MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR I DON'T

1:49:48 KNOW HOW THEIR TRASH IS PUT OUT

1:49:50 OR NOT PUT OUT, I'VE CALLED 311

1:49:52 NUMBER TIMES UH, BUT UH,

1:49:56 HOUSEHOLD TRASH IT DOESN'T GET

1:49:57 PUT OUT FOR A WEEK.

1:49:58 TWO WEEKS.

1:50:00 UH AT THE TIMES THE BARRELS ARE

1:50:01 JUST LEFT OUT AND NOBODY BRINGS

1:50:02 THEM BACK IN.

1:50:03 BIG UH, HOUSEHOLD, YOU KNOW,

1:50:06 LIKE KITCHEN BAGS PUT OUT ON

1:50:08 THE SIDEWALK.

1:50:09 YOU SEE THEM RIPPED OPEN TRASH

1:50:11 GARBAGE OUT ON THE STREET FROM

1:50:13 RODENTS AND OTHER CRITTERS

1:50:14 GETTING INTO THEM.

1:50:15 IT'S JUST A LIST.

1:50:16 IT'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT

1:50:17 THINGS.

1:50:18 I THINK ONE THING FINES NEED TO

1:50:20 BE UPPED.

1:50:21 I DON'T THINK THAT UM OBVIOUSLY

1:50:22 THEY'RE NOT UH, GETTING THE

1:50:25 MESSAGE THROUGH UH UH, MONEY IS

1:50:26 SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE

1:50:28 UNDERSTAND AND THEY HAVE TO

1:50:29 START PULLING IT OUT OF THEIR

1:50:30 OWN POCKET.

1:50:30 THEY'RE GOING TO STOP PAYING

1:50:32 ATTENTION.

1:50:33 SO I.

1:50:33 THINK THE CITY SHOULD.

1:50:34 YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT UH, LOOK

1:50:36 AT UPPING THE FINES AND UH, YOU

1:50:39 KNOW, INCREASING ENFORCEMENT.

1:50:41 IT JUST IT'S.

1:50:42 THE ONLY THING THAT PEOPLE

1:50:43 UNDERSTAND.

1:50:44 I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THAT'S IT

1:50:45 .

1:50:46 UM.

1:50:49 I UH OTHER THAN.

1:50:49 THAT, I GUESS I'LL JUST.

1:50:50 CLOSE WITH, UH, JUST SAY THAT I

1:50:52 APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT

1:50:53 PEOPLE ARE DOING.

1:50:54 ED, YOU WAS ESPECIALLY LEADING

1:50:55 THIS AND, UH, I'LL END THERE.

1:50:59 THANK YOU.

1:51:00 KEVIN.

1:51:05 IS RANDY UM, AVAILABLE.

1:51:07 TO ADD THIS BOB LATER.

1:51:09 CAN YOU HEAR ME?

1:51:10 OH.

1:51:10 HEY, BOB.

1:51:11 UM, YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU, BOB.

1:51:13 GO AHEAD.

1:51:13 OKAY.

1:51:14 YEAH, RIGHT.

1:51:15 RANDY STEPPED OUT TO GET A

1:51:16 COVID SHOT BUT SHE SAID HOLD ON

1:51:18 IF YOU CAN GET ON SO SO THANK

1:51:19 YOU FOR HAVING US.

1:51:21 UM, I'LL BE BRIEF.

1:51:22 AND FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO

1:51:24 COMMEND YOU TREMENDOUSLY.

1:51:26 I REMEMBER I'M GOING TO I'M

1:51:27 GOING TO TURN TO TALK ABOUT A

1:51:29 SUCCESSFUL SITUATION THAT WE

1:51:31 HAD IN OUR AREA.

1:51:32 YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS ABOUT A

1:51:33 YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND AT THAT

1:51:35 TIME I THINK EVEN EARLIER YOU

1:51:36 WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO

1:51:38 GET AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT

1:51:39 IT'D BE GREAT TO GET A RAT CZAR

1:51:41 BECAUSE I THINK ACCOUNTABILITY

1:51:43 IS SOME PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT OUT

1:51:44 IS A BIG ISSUE.

1:51:46 COORDINATING OF RESOURCES IS A

1:51:47 BIG ISSUE AND SOMEONE HAS TO BE

1:51:49 AT THE TOP TO STAY ON THIS.

1:51:51 BUT ANYWAY WE LIVE UH IN THIS

1:51:55 UH SAINT PETERSBURG

1:51:56 NEIGHBORHOOD AREA WE HAVE A

1:51:58 CONDO ON UM IT'S UH THE BACK

1:52:01 OF OUR BUILDING IS UH, JUST

1:52:03 WITH THE COLONNADE HOTEL.

1:52:05 THE COLONNADE HOTEL HAS ITS

1:52:08 TRASH ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT

1:52:10 BUILDING.

1:52:11 UH, TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD A

1:52:14 PHENOMENAL RAT PROBLEM IN THE

1:52:16 BACK OF THAT ALLEYWAY.

1:52:17 I MEAN, IT WAS NOT ONLY RATS.

1:52:19 IT WAS A COMMUNITY OF RATS AND

1:52:20 THERE WERE NESTS UNDERNEATH

1:52:22 SOME OF THE BUILDING THERE FROM

1:52:24 FOOD SOURCE IS THE MOST

1:52:26 CRITICAL CONTAINMENT OF THAT IS

1:52:27 THE MOST CRITICAL THING YOU CAN

1:52:29 DO.

1:52:31 WE GOT TOGETHER WITH ALL THE

1:52:32 NEIGHBORS IN OUR AREA.

1:52:33 WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE PEOPLE

1:52:35 AT THE COLONNADE HOTEL WHO I

1:52:37 WANT TO RESPECT AND SAY BECAUSE

1:52:38 THEY STEPPED FORWARD THEY

1:52:40 BECAUSE THEY HAD BARRELS OUT,

1:52:42 THEY WERE CONTAINED BUT THEY

1:52:43 WEREN'T FULLY CONTAINED.

1:52:44 THEY EVEN WENT TO METALIZED

1:52:46 THINGS AND ONCE THIS WAS DONE

1:52:48 AND THE NEIGHBORS SAYING WE

1:52:49 DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM NOW TO

1:52:50 THE LEVEL THAT WE HAD AND AND

1:52:52 AND IT WAS A GRASSROOTS LEVEL

1:52:55 THAT THAT RANDY WORKED ON WITH

1:52:57 THE SAINT BITOF NEIGHBORHOOD

1:52:59 ASSOCIATION WITH ALL THE

1:53:00 NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA AS WELL

1:53:02 GETTING TOGETHER AS WELL AS

1:53:04 WITH UM THE HOTEL BECAUSE THAT

1:53:07 FOOD SOURCE IS WHERE YOU'RE

1:53:08 GOING TO GET AT AND I WANT TO

1:53:09 THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WE WORK

1:53:11 WITH WE NOW HAVE IT CONTAINED.

1:53:14 IT'S NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY.

1:53:15 BUT I REMEMBER MY SON BEING OUT

1:53:16 ON OUR DECK AT NIGHT LOOKING

1:53:18 OUT AT TWO IN THE MORNING AND

1:53:20 HE WOULD SEE NOT ONLY SINGLE

1:53:22 RATS HE WOULD HAVE FAMILIES

1:53:24 COMMUNITIES OF RATS.

1:53:25 SO IT'S AMAZING WHAT COMES OUT

1:53:27 AT NIGHT YOU TALK ABOUT DURING

1:53:28 THE DAY.

1:53:29 I MEAN IF YOU DON'T CONTAIN THE

1:53:30 FOOD SOURCE THEY'RE GOING TO

1:53:32 COME FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE.

1:53:34 THE OTHER THING SOMEONE SAID

1:53:35 THAT I AGREE ON IS AND THAT

1:53:37 WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLY HERE

1:53:39 ABOUT CLOROX OR BLEACH UM IF IF

1:53:42 YOU PUT SOME OF THAT ON IT THEY

1:53:44 SMELL IT AND THEY STAY AWAY.

1:53:46 SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COULD

1:53:49 TEMPORARILY BE INTRODUCED BUT

1:53:50 IT IS EFFECTIVE BUT AND THE

1:53:53 OTHER THING I THINK YOU GOT TO

1:53:54 ADDRESS IT WAS I DIDN'T HEAR

1:53:56 HEAR BECAUSE OF THE

1:53:57 NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIVE IN THERE

1:53:58 ARE A LOT OF UM PROPERTIES

1:54:01 WHERE THERE'S A TURNOVER

1:54:03 OF TOURISTS COMING IN AND

1:54:04 RENTERS AND WHATEVER AND THEY

1:54:05 ALWAYS PUT THEIR TRASH OUT.

1:54:07 WE HAVE A HORRIBLE PROBLEM IN

1:54:08 ALLEYWAY 402 BEHIND US AT THE

1:54:11 CORNER AND THEY'RE PUTTING OUT

1:54:12 THE BAGS AND THEY'RE ALWAYS

1:54:14 OPENED UP AND WHATEVER.

1:54:16 UM WE FINALLY HAD TO WORK WITH

1:54:18 UH THE REALTORS, THE PROPERTY

1:54:21 MANAGERS AND WE EVEN HAD PEOPLE

1:54:23 OPENING UP AND LOOKING AT THE

1:54:25 BAG OF WHAT WHAT WHAT ACTUALLY

1:54:27 BUILDINGS THEY WERE IN

1:54:28 GRASSROOTS UP TO GET

1:54:30 ENFORCEMENT TO FIND AND

1:54:32 WHATEVER BECAUSE IT'S A

1:54:33 HORRIBLE ISSUE.

1:54:34 BUT UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT

1:54:36 WASN'T BROUGHT UP TODAY I THINK

1:54:37 NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS

1:54:39 PROPERTY MANAGERS BECAUSE YOU

1:54:40 HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT ONLY

1:54:42 RESIDENTS BUT PEOPLE COMING

1:54:45 INTO AREAS THAT COME AND GO

1:54:46 RENT PUT THE TRASH OUT THAT GO

1:54:49 ON THEY COULD CARE LESS

1:54:50 WHATEVER AND THERE'S GOT TO BE

1:54:52 SOME ACCOUNTABILITY BACK TO THE

1:54:53 PROPERTY MANAGER.

1:54:54 BUT NUMBER ONE AND FINALLY IT'S

1:54:55 IT'S THE FOOD SOURCE.

1:54:57 IF YOU SHUT IT DOWN YOU CLOSE

1:54:58 IT UP AS THE COLONY DID AND WE

1:55:00 WORK WITH YOU'RE GOING TO

1:55:03 YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE LIKE

1:55:04 99% OF THE PROBLEM AND I WAS

1:55:06 MENTIONED EARLIER WE ALSO HAVE

1:55:08 A SITUATION WE WERE FORTUNATE

1:55:09 WE HAVE AN INTERNAL

1:55:12 CONTAINERIZATION.

1:55:13 WE HAVE A WE PAID TO HAVE IT

1:55:14 PUT OUT FIRST THING IN THE

1:55:15 MORNING AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY

1:55:16 PICKED UP.

1:55:17 THAT HELPS WHERE WE ARE.

1:55:18 BUT AT THE CORNER WHERE THE

1:55:19 PEOPLE THAT RENT AND COME IN

1:55:21 AND COULD CARE LESS ARE PUTTING

1:55:23 OUT THE CHEAP BAGS.

1:55:24 THEY'RE OPENED UP IN THE

1:55:25 MORNING AND THE TRASH IS ALWAYS

1:55:27 DOWN OUR ALLEYWAY.

1:55:28 SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE

1:55:30 SUGGESTIONS.

1:55:30 BUT EDDIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH

1:55:32 FOR ORGANIZING THIS.

1:55:33 YOU WERE THE SPEARHEAD OF THIS

1:55:34 THING.

1:55:35 I DO THINK WE NEED A RAT CZAR

1:55:39 BECAUSE YOU KNOW FORGET ALL THE

1:55:40 ANALYSIS WHATEVER WE NEED

1:55:41 ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE ISSUES.

1:55:43 THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY.

1:55:44 THANK YOU.

1:55:45 THANK YOU BOB I DO WANT TO GO

1:55:48 BACK TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC

1:55:50 TESTIMONY.

1:55:53 IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME.

1:55:54 IF.

1:55:54 YOU JUST COME TO EITHER OF THE

1:55:56 MICROPHONES.

1:55:57 JOHN.

1:56:00 HEATHER.

1:56:05 ALICIA.

1:56:08 JANET.

1:56:13 UM.

1:56:17 BECAUSE THEY WERE JANE ALSO UM.

1:56:24 BUZZ KOSKI.

1:56:25 THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOING TO FOR

1:56:28 COVID TEST THOUGH.

1:56:29 OKAY.

1:56:29 AND IF LEXI IS HERE, UM, DOES

1:56:31 LEXI WANT TO COME DOWN?

1:56:34 UM.

1:56:37 SO I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE,

1:56:38 UM, TWO MINUTES IF YOU WANT TO

1:56:40 GIVE YOUR NAME AND MAYBE.

1:56:42 THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:56:43 YOU'RE FROM AND UM, TAKE THE

1:56:47 TWO MINUTES TO UM, STATE YOUR

1:56:48 POSITION.

1:56:50 UM YES, SIR.

1:56:52 I, UM.

1:56:53 MY NAME IS I PUT A STATEMENT.

1:56:55 HERE, UM.

1:56:56 REVIEWING WHAT I'M GOING TO

1:56:57 READ AND I'VE GOT SOME I'M

1:56:58 GOING TO, UM.

1:57:00 EMAIL YOUR OFFICES ONE MORE

1:57:01 DETAIL.

1:57:02 SO MY NAME IS JOHN PACHECO SKI.

1:57:04 I'M A RESIDENT AND OWNER AT 12

1:57:05 ACADIA STREET IN SOUTH BOSTON.

1:57:07 I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AT THAT

1:57:08 ADDRESS FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS.

1:57:11 UM, THE PAST THREE YEARS WE'VE

1:57:12 SEEN A MAJOR UPTICKS IN RATS ON

1:57:14 ACADIA STREET.

1:57:15 THE INITIAL WAVE SEEMED TO

1:57:17 COINCIDE WITH THE DEMOLITION

1:57:18 OF THE OLD L STREET POWER

1:57:20 STATION AND A SECOND WAVE WITH

1:57:21 THE RENOVATION OF THE

1:57:22 CHRISTOPHER LEE PLAYGROUND BALL

1:57:24 FIELD LAST YEAR.

1:57:25 RARE NIGHT YOU DON'T SEE

1:57:26 SEVERAL RATS RUNNING AROUND.

1:57:29 UM, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THEY

1:57:30 STARTED INVADING OUR YARD AND

1:57:32 THAT OF OUR NEIGHBOR AL ROACH

1:57:33 BREWING THIS UNDER SHEDS AND

1:57:35 RAISED GARDEN BEDS.

1:57:36 WE SMOKE BOMBED THEM.

1:57:37 WE FILLED IN THEIR BARRELS.

1:57:39 WE LINED THERE ARE GARDENS AND

1:57:40 FENCES WITH, UH, BURIED WIRE

1:57:42 STONE AND METAL MESH.

1:57:43 UH, WE PRETTY MUCH SUCCEEDED IN

1:57:46 KEEPING THEM FROM MAKING HOMES

1:57:47 IN THEIR YARDS, BUT THEY'RE

1:57:49 CONTINUING TO USE, UM, OUR

1:57:51 YARDS AS ALMOST A A HIGHWAY TO

1:57:55 REACH OTHER NEIGHBORS YARDS.

1:57:56 IT'S LIKE A RED HIGHWAY.

1:57:58 UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE I CAN

1:57:59 DO IT FOR MY END.

1:58:01 UH, I ALSO LIKE DO HAVE I PUT

1:58:03 WRIGLEY PUT A RAT TRAP SPREAD

1:58:05 ACROSS MY PROPERTY?

1:58:06 THIS YEAR I'VE KILLED SO MANY

1:58:07 RATS I'VE LOST COUNT ALMOST

1:58:09 4050 RATS IN THE PAST TEN DAYS

1:58:11 ALONE I'VE KILLED EIGHT.

1:58:12 THAT NUMBER IS STAGGERING.

1:58:15 UM, NOW THIS IS A MORE CRITICAL

1:58:17 ISSUE.

1:58:18 EARLIER THIS FALL MY SON

1:58:20 CONTRACTED LESS LEPTOSPIROSIS.

1:58:23 IT'S A RAT BORNE BACTERIAL

1:58:25 INFECTION SPREAD VIA CONTACT

1:58:27 WITH RAT FECES AND URINE.

1:58:28 HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TWO

1:58:30 WEEKS IN ICU FOR A WEEK AND

1:58:32 SUFFERED SERIOUS LIVER AND

1:58:33 KIDNEY INJURIES.

1:58:36 UH, WE'LL NEVER KNOW IF HE

1:58:38 CONTACT CONTRACTED IT FROM OUR

1:58:39 YARD OR FROM, UH, THE TRASH

1:58:42 BINS AT JP LUKE'S WHERE HE

1:58:43 WORKS AT HIS PART TIME JOB.

1:58:45 THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

1:58:45 THE ISSUE WHICH WE HAVE TO TALK

1:58:47 ABOUT THIS AT ALL.

1:58:49 IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.

1:58:50 I APPRECIATE.

1:58:51 THE CITY'S EFFORTS, WHAT

1:58:52 THEY'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S BEEN

1:58:53 MY EXPERIENCE HAVEN'T BEEN

1:58:55 PARTICULARLY USEFUL.

1:58:56 UM.

1:58:57 OVER THE YEARS AFTER

1:58:58 COMPLAINTS TO MR FLYNN'S OFFICE

1:59:00 AND THE THREE ONE LINE 311 LINE

1:59:02 INSPECTORS VISITED US 2 OR 3

1:59:04 TIMES AND GAVE US THE SAME

1:59:05 SUGGESTIONS.

1:59:06 IT'S KIND OF THE SAME OLD

1:59:07 STORY.

1:59:07 WE FOLLOWED THEIR

1:59:08 RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE GET GO

1:59:09 BUT THE PROBLEMS PERSISTED AND

1:59:11 SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN WORSE.

1:59:14 UM I UNDERSTAND THIS NOTION

1:59:16 OF CITATIONS IF PEOPLE AREN'T

1:59:19 GETTING FINED.

1:59:20 NO ONE'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

1:59:22 UM.

1:59:22 WE NEED TO BE MORE

1:59:24 AGGRESSIVE ON THAT.

1:59:25 UH MONEY TALKS RIGHT?

1:59:26 AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE

1:59:28 OF BAGS.

1:59:28 I'M NOT SURE HOW BAGS ARE

1:59:29 REALLY.

1:59:29 UH, THEIR STYLE BAGS ARE USEFUL

1:59:31 .

1:59:31 THE RATS ARE LITERALLY CHEWING

1:59:32 THROUGH THE TRASH BINS IN OUR

1:59:34 NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:59:34 THERE'S BIG HOLES IN THE TOP

1:59:35 OF THE TRASH BINS.

1:59:37 UM, I KNOW SOMETHING IS JUST

1:59:39 ONE.

1:59:40 NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY.

1:59:40 THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE.

1:59:42 I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AT

1:59:43 THIS POINT, BUT THE PROOF IS IN

1:59:44 THE PUDDING.

1:59:45 THIS IS A SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE

1:59:47 THAT CAN HAVE FATAL

1:59:48 CONSEQUENCES.

1:59:49 UH, THE TIME FOR RESEARCH

1:59:50 STUDIES IS WELL OVER.

1:59:51 STOP TIME TO STOP PLAYING THIS

1:59:53 BUREAUCRATIC HOT POTATO, GET

1:59:54 OUR BUTTS IN GEAR AND REALLY DO

1:59:56 SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

1:59:57 UM.

1:59:58 YOU CAN TELL I'M VERY

1:59:59 FRUSTRATED BY THIS AND I THINK

2:00:01 A GOOD FIRST STEP IS TO POINT

2:00:03 OUT RATS ARE UH.

2:00:04 THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.

2:00:05 THANK YOU.

2:00:07 JOHN.

2:00:08 UM, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO

2:00:11 RESPOND VERY, VERY BRIEFLY TO

2:00:12 WHAT JOHN SAID.

2:00:14 UM I SAID THIS WAS A PUBLIC

2:00:16 HEALTH ISSUE.

2:00:17 I BELIEVE IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH

2:00:18 ISSUE.

2:00:20 UM, I BROUGHT THIS TO THE

2:00:22 ATTENTION OF CITY OFFICIALS

2:00:23 INCLUDING PUBLIC HEALTH

2:00:24 COMMISSION.

2:00:26 UM, LAST YEAR A TUFTS

2:00:28 UNIVERSITY STUDY IN BOSTON

2:00:30 URBAN RAT POPULATION FOUND THAT

2:00:32 MOST MANY RAT POPULATIONS IN

2:00:35 BOSTON ARE CARRYING AND

2:00:36 SPREADING LEPTOSPIROSIS.

2:00:39 AS JOHN MENTIONED, UH,

2:00:41 BACTERIAL DISEASE THAT IMPACTS

2:00:42 BOTH HUMANS AND OTHER ANIMALS.

2:00:45 LEPTOSPIROSIS IS SPREAD BY THE

2:00:47 URINE OF INFECTED ANIMALS

2:00:48 THROUGH CONTACT WITH INFECTED

2:00:50 SOIL AND WATER.

2:00:52 THESE ARE CONCERNS ON HOW THIS

2:00:55 MAY HAVE IMPACT VULNERABLE

2:00:57 POPULATIONS.

2:01:00 UM INCLUDING THE HOMELESS BUT

2:01:02 ALSO INCLUDING HEALTH WORKERS

2:01:04 AS WELL.

2:01:05 UM BUT THE.

2:01:06 CITY PUSHED BACK ON ME AND SAID

2:01:08 THAT THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY A

2:01:11 MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

2:01:13 UM.

2:01:16 WE KNOW IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH

2:01:17 ISSUE NOW AFTER LISTENING TO

2:01:19 JOHN'S TESTIMONY.

2:01:22 YES, MA'AM.

2:01:24 UM, HI AND THANKS FOR HAVING

2:01:25 ME.

2:01:25 I'M HEATHER O'BRIEN.

2:01:27 I'M FROM DORCHESTER.

2:01:28 I LIVE IN EAST BOSTON.

2:01:29 I WORK IN SOUTH BOSTON AND I

2:01:31 DID SEE THE FEISTY RATS ON WALL

2:01:33 STREET YESTERDAY WHEN I WALKED

2:01:34 FROM THE GYM TO GO DO AN

2:01:35 ERRAND.

2:01:36 IT'S BAD.

2:01:37 THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

2:01:39 WE ARE DEALING WITH

2:01:41 ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE

2:01:42 COMMUNITIES WHO ARE ALREADY

2:01:43 VULNERABLE.

2:01:44 WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE

2:01:46 CHILDREN HAVE HIGHER RATES

2:01:48 OF ASTHMA THAN OTHER PLACES IN

2:01:49 OUR COMMONWEALTH.

2:01:51 WE HAVE ADULT POPULATIONS UM,

2:01:54 WITH KIDNEY DISEASES, UH WITH

2:01:59 UM DIABETES AND THINGS THAT

2:02:00 MAKE THEM MORE VULNERABLE.

2:02:02 UM, THE RATS MAKE THEIR WAY

2:02:05 AROUND BY DROPPING URINE AND

2:02:08 THEY SMELL THAT THE URINE

2:02:10 CONTAINS SALMONELLA.

2:02:11 THE URINE CONTAINS LEPTO.

2:02:12 THE URINE CONTAINS HUNT VIRUS.

2:02:15 UH, PEOPLE CAN GET LUNG

2:02:16 DISEASES AND KIDNEY DISEASES

2:02:17 FROM THIS.

2:02:18 IT'S NOT IF IT'S GOING TO

2:02:20 HAPPEN, IT IS HAPPENING.

2:02:22 UM, SO I THINK THAT THIS IS

2:02:23 VERY IMPORTANT.

2:02:24 IT'S NOT JUST A NUISANCE.

2:02:25 OH, WE SEE RATS AND WE DON'T

2:02:26 LIKE IT.

2:02:26 IT'S ICK.

2:02:27 IT'S HORRENDOUS.

2:02:29 UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I

2:02:31 WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO IS

2:02:32 LOOK TO OTHER CITIES AND NOT

2:02:34 JUST TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT IT

2:02:35 WAS TO HAVE THE RAT CONVENTION

2:02:37 AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THINGS

2:02:38 WELL, WE'RE LOOKING INTO

2:02:40 THINGS.

2:02:40 THESE RATS ARE PROLIFICALLY

2:02:43 REPOPULATING.

2:02:44 THERE'S MORE AND MORE OF THEM

2:02:45 EVERY DAY YOU KILL ONE AND

2:02:47 THERE'S LIKE A LITTER OF 17

2:02:48 BORN THE NEXT MINUTE.

2:02:50 UM, IT NEEDS TO BE A MORE

2:02:52 HOLISTIC APPROACH.

2:02:53 THE TRASH CONTAINMENT THAT I

2:02:55 HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN WORK IN

2:02:58 EUROPEAN CITIES IS NOT THAT

2:03:00 HARD.

2:03:00 PEOPLE GET USED TO IT.

2:03:01 WE LIVE IN DENSELY POPULATED.

2:03:03 WE'VE GOT MORE DENSE HOUSING IN

2:03:05 BOSTON THAN WE'VE EVER HAD

2:03:07 BEFORE AND WE NEED TO HAVE A

2:03:09 WAY TO KEEP THIS.

2:03:10 PEOPLE WILL GET USED TO

2:03:11 BRINGING THEIR TRASH TO THE

2:03:12 CORNER TO THE METAL BIN IN NEW

2:03:14 YORK WHERE THEY'VE DONE IT IN

2:03:15 HARLEM.

2:03:16 THEY'VE HAD A REDUCTION

2:03:17 OF ALMOST 40% RODENT SIGHTING

2:03:21 WHERE THEY DID THAT.

2:03:22 THAT PILOT PROGRAM IT'S REALLY

2:03:24 GREAT.

2:03:25 I WANT TO JUST GIVE MY

2:03:28 ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE

2:03:29 RIGHT NOW I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO

2:03:31 RAT DISNEYLAND.

2:03:33 UM IT'S LIKE IT WOULD BE FUNNY

2:03:35 IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PAST THREE

2:03:38 YEARS I'VE SUBMITTED 247 311

2:03:42 REPORTS.

2:03:43 I CLEAN THE TRASH FROM THE

2:03:45 STREET ON MY BLOCK TWICE A WEEK

2:03:47 .

2:03:48 I WASH THE SIDEWALK WITH CLOROX

2:03:50 .

2:03:50 I WASH MY TRASH BINS WITH

2:03:51 CLOROX.

2:03:53 NEXT DOOR TO ME A DEVELOPER WHO

2:03:55 GOT PLANNING PERMISSION WHO GOT

2:03:58 ZBA RELIEF FOR THEIR HARDSHIP

2:04:01 BUILT LUXURY HOUSING, NEVER

2:04:04 FINISHED THE PROJECT.

2:04:06 HALF OF THE THINGS ARE NOT

2:04:08 DONE.

2:04:08 IT'S FULL OF RAT TUNNELS.

2:04:11 HE'S BEEN CITED FOR WITH ONE

2:04:14 OF THOSE $25 TICKETS FROM

2:04:16 CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR IMPROPER

2:04:18 TRASH, BUT HE'S BEEN GETTING

2:04:20 THOSE SINCE I REPORTED THE

2:04:22 INITIAL, UM, DUMPSTER THAT HE

2:04:24 PUT ON THE SITE WITH NO LID AND

2:04:26 KEPT BRINGING HOUSEHOLD TRASH

2:04:28 TO AND THAT'S WHEN THE RAT

2:04:29 STARTED.

2:04:30 SO FOR THREE YEARS THESE RATS

2:04:32 HAVE MOVED IN NEXT DOOR.

2:04:34 WE'VE GOT LIKE UM THERE'S

2:04:35 ANOTHER BLIGHT PROPERTY AND

2:04:37 THEN THERE'S LIKE A LOCAL

2:04:38 RESTAURANT THAT WORKS REALLY

2:04:40 HARD TO KEEP THINGS CLEAN AND

2:04:41 DOES THINGS THE RIGHT WAY BUT

2:04:43 HAS AN EXTERMINATOR ONCE A WEEK

2:04:44 BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID THE RATS

2:04:45 ARE GOING TO COME THERE.

2:04:46 I HAVE PERSONALLY HAD TO BUY

2:04:48 RAT BAIT BOXES AND RAT POISON

2:04:51 TO KILL MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S

2:04:53 RATS.

2:04:55 THIS IS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.

2:04:58 THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT

2:04:59 THEY HAVE.

2:05:00 THESE ARE THE ZBA REQUESTS THAT

2:05:02 THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP MORE

2:05:03 PROPERTIES.

2:05:05 PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROBLEM

2:05:07 PROPERTIES LOW AND HIGH

2:05:09 NONCOMPLIANCE WITH EITHER THE

2:05:11 RUBBISH OR THE RATS AND IT'S

2:05:13 NOT BEEN MITIGATED SHOULD NOT

2:05:16 GET PERMISSION TO DO MORE.

2:05:19 WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS MANY

2:05:20 FROM SOMEONE LIKE THAT.

2:05:22 THIS IS ATROCIOUS.

2:05:24 THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO.

2:05:25 THEY DO NOT CARE ONE BIT ABOUT

2:05:27 THAT $25 TICKET.

2:05:29 THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO GET

2:05:32 RID OF THE RATS.

2:05:33 NOT ONE THING AND I FEEL LIKE I

2:05:35 CAN KEEP SENDING THESE 311

2:05:37 REPORTS AT THE ADDRESS.

2:05:38 LIKE I ASKED ME TO AND THEY'RE

2:05:43 IN NONCOMPLIANCE AND THERE'S

2:05:44 NOTHING THEY CAN DO AND LIKE

2:05:45 EVEN ISD SAID HE'S A LAWYER.

2:05:47 HE'S JUST GOING TO FIGHT US.

2:05:49 I THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO

2:05:51 COME DOWN HARDER ON THE BIG

2:05:53 PROBLEMS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT

2:05:55 DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I DO IF

2:05:58 THIS IS STILL GOING ON.

2:06:00 UM THE OTHER THING I THE THE

2:06:02 RAT BAIT BOXES UM I DID ASK IF

2:06:05 THE ABUTTING NEIGHBORS COULD

2:06:06 GET THEM FROM THE CITY AND AND

2:06:08 THE ANSWER IS NO.

2:06:09 THE CITY OF REVERE HAS A

2:06:11 PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE HIRED

2:06:12 AN EXTERMINATOR.

2:06:13 SO PEOPLE AT ABUTTING

2:06:14 PROPERTIES, IF THEY'VE SEEN

2:06:15 RATS COME ONTO THEIR PROPERTY,

2:06:17 THEY CAN GET THEM.

2:06:18 THE CITY JUST HAS THE

2:06:19 EXTERMINATOR COME OUT AND PUT

2:06:21 THEM IN FOR THE PEOPLE.

2:06:22 UM, I DO THINK WE NEED TO DO

2:06:24 MORE TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS

2:06:26 INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING WHEN YOU

2:06:27 BRING THE TRASH OUT IF THE

2:06:29 TRASH IS IN THE ALLEYWAY OR THE

2:06:30 TRASH IS ON THE CURB, THE RATS

2:06:32 ARE STILL GETTING ACCESS TO

2:06:33 THAT TRASH AND WE NEED TO STOP

2:06:35 PUTTING UM, THE BURDEN ON OUR

2:06:40 NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING

2:06:42 EVERYTHING THEY CAN FOR THE

2:06:43 MOST PART.

2:06:43 THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING

2:06:45 A LOT OF GOOD.

2:06:45 I THINK THAT THE BIG PLAYERS

2:06:47 THE BIG DEVELOPERS, THE THE

2:06:50 ELKS WHO PAY NO ATTENTION, WHO

2:06:52 DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE

2:06:54 NEIGHBORS THEY'RE IN THERE TO

2:06:55 MAKE THEIR MONEY.

2:06:55 THEY DON'T CARE IF THERE'S

2:06:57 RATS.

2:06:57 WE NEED TO BE HARDER ON THEM.

2:06:59 THANK YOU.

2:07:01 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

2:07:04 THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY.

2:07:06 IT'S.

2:07:09 HI.

2:07:10 YOU'RE UP NEXT.

2:07:11 OKAY.

2:07:12 HI.

2:07:12 I'M ALICIA.

2:07:13 MANNING AND I LIVE ON BEACON

2:07:15 HILL AND I'VE BEEN THERE.

2:07:17 OVER 30 YEARS.

2:07:19 AND THE RATS HAVE DEFINITELY

2:07:22 GOTTEN MUCH WORSE THERE.

2:07:24 UM, I TO ECHO THAT WE NEED A

2:07:28 RATS ARE RIGHT.

2:07:29 UM, AND FOR ALL THE REASONS

2:07:31 THAT I JUST HEARD IN THE TWO

2:07:33 PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, IT REALLY

2:07:35 COMES BACK TO ACCOUNTABILITY.

2:07:38 NOBODY IS RUNNING THE SHOW

2:07:40 HERE.

2:07:40 I'VE LISTENED TO THE PANEL AND

2:07:43 THE PANEL IS DOING A GOOD JOB

2:07:45 WITH THE TOOLS THAT THEY HAVE,

2:07:48 BUT NOBODY'S RUNNING THE SHOW.

2:07:50 EVERYBODY'S COLLECTING DATA OR

2:07:53 TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM

2:07:56 WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THEY

2:07:57 HAVE, BUT NOBODY'S SORT

2:07:59 OF DEALING WITH THE BIG BEAR IN

2:08:00 THE ROOM WHICH TO ME SEEMS TO

2:08:02 BE PUBLIC WORKS AND GETTING

2:08:04 THEM AT THE TABLE AND GETTING

2:08:07 THEM TO HELP THE RESIDENTS DEAL

2:08:09 WITH THE ISSUE, WHICH IS NOT

2:08:12 PUTTING THE FOOD OUT BETWEEN 8

2:08:14 P.M. AND 5 A.M. WHICH YOU'VE

2:08:18 GOT THE DATA YOU KNOW THAT

2:08:20 THAT'S WHEN THE RATS ARE OUT

2:08:21 THERE EATING.

2:08:24 SO WHY ARE WE PUTTING FOOD OUT

2:08:27 THERE FOR THEM?

2:08:28 IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE.

2:08:31 SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO

2:08:33 JUST DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM AND

2:08:35 STOP DEALING WITH THE SYMPTOMS

2:08:38 .

2:08:39 COMING UP WITH FANCIER

2:08:40 CONTAINERS.

2:08:42 CATCH THINGS AND SEWERS UH,

2:08:45 MORE GAS.

2:08:46 I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL PROBLEMS

2:08:48 TO DEAL WITH THE SYMPTOMS AND I

2:08:51 UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE I'VE HAD

2:08:52 THOSE SOLUTIONS COME INTO MY

2:08:54 NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE HAVE

2:08:55 BEEN PROBLEMS.

2:08:56 BUT THE ISSUE IS TO REALLY DEAL

2:08:59 WITH THE ROOT CAUSE AND THE

2:09:01 CAUSE IS THE FOOD AND WE'VE GOT

2:09:04 TO STOP PUTTING IT OUT.

2:09:06 SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY.

2:09:08 THANK YOU.

2:09:09 THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMPORTANT

2:09:10 TESTIMONY.

2:09:10 GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

2:09:15 GOOD MORNING.

2:09:17 HI.

2:09:17 GOOD AFTERNOON.

2:09:18 MY NAME IS LEXI GROSS.

2:09:20 I LIVE AT 41 HASKELL IN

2:09:22 ALLSTON.

2:09:23 I'M SORT OF SURPRISED I'M THE

2:09:24 ONLY ONE HERE FROM ALLSTON.

2:09:26 FIRST.

2:09:27 JOHN, I'M VERY SORRY ABOUT YOUR

2:09:29 SON.

2:09:30 MY DOG HAD LEPTOSPIROSIS AND I

2:09:32 CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT IT

2:09:33 WOULD BE LIKE FOR YOUR OWN

2:09:34 CHILD.

2:09:35 I'M REALLY SORRY, BUT YOU LOOK

2:09:36 PRETTY GOOD, MAN.

2:09:37 KEEP IT UP, KEEP IT UP.

2:09:40 ALL RIGHT.

2:09:41 UM, ONE QUICK NOTE HERE.

2:09:45 SIX BITES PER SECOND AT 7000FT2

2:09:50 .

2:09:50 THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED AT THE

2:09:51 RAT SUMMIT.

2:09:52 HOW MUCH A BITE OF A RAT GOES

2:09:54 THROUGH.

2:09:55 SO OUR OUR LITTLE HEFTY TRASH

2:09:57 BAGS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY

2:09:58 ROUGH.

2:09:59 SO, UM, MY THANK YOU,

2:10:01 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

2:10:02 THANK YOU, LIZ BREADON, FOR,

2:10:03 UH, CO-CHAIRING THIS.

2:10:06 I'VE LIVED IN BOSTON LITERALLY

2:10:08 LIVED IN THE CITY FOR 25 YEARS

2:10:11 16 AS A HOMEOWNER IN KENMORE

2:10:12 SQUARE THE PAST SIX IN ALLSTON

2:10:14 ,BRIGHTON.

2:10:15 I'VE WORKED WITH IAG'S

2:10:17 NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEES,

2:10:18 PARTICULARLY AROUND THE THE

2:10:19 DEVELOPMENT AND IMPACT

2:10:22 OF DEVELOPMENT ON OUR

2:10:23 NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SPECIFICALLY

2:10:25 WITH THE RATS.

2:10:26 I'M ALSO AN APPOINTED MEMBER

2:10:28 OF THE HEALTH AND HARVARD TASK

2:10:29 FORCE, AND I'VE WORKED WITH THE

2:10:31 UNIVERSITY AS WELL AS THE RAT

2:10:34 RANGERS ON RODENT MITIGATION.

2:10:36 I HOLD A MASTER'S IN POLITICAL

2:10:38 COMMUNICATION AND FOR OVER 20

2:10:39 YEARS MY WORK HAS INCLUDED

2:10:41 PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AND

2:10:43 COMMUNITY MANAGED COMMUNITY

2:10:44 MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION.

2:10:46 ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IS THAT

2:10:47 THE BEST COMMUNICATION

2:10:49 SORRY THE BEST PUBLIC

2:10:50 INITIATIVES CANNOT SUCCEED

2:10:51 WITHOUT EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION

2:10:53 AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.

2:10:55 I RECENTLY HAD THE PRIVILEGE.

2:10:56 THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN

2:10:58 THE SECOND ANNUAL RAT URBAN

2:11:00 SUMMIT.

2:11:01 I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW

2:11:03 IMPRESSED I WAS BY WHAT BOSTON

2:11:06 IS DOING YOU GUYS.

2:11:07 THAT'S WHAT I LEARNED I WITH

2:11:08 WITH SEE IF SHE WERE HERE.

2:11:11 WE I REALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE

2:11:12 WHAT MAYOR WU WAS DOING.

2:11:14 JOHN YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE

2:11:16 PHENOMENAL WHAT YOU GUYS ARE

2:11:18 DOING.

2:11:18 WE ARE LEADING ACTUALLY QUITE

2:11:21 EXTRAORDINARILY IN THE WORLD.

2:11:23 YOU GUYS ARE SOME OF THE MOST

2:11:25 INCREDIBLE RAT MITIGATION

2:11:27 PROCESSES.

2:11:29 I YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET AND

2:11:30 INTER DEPARTMENTAL

2:11:32 COLLABORATION EXPERTISE

2:11:34 INNOVATION AND THE COMMITMENT

2:11:35 TO PUBLIC HEALTH.

2:11:36 THIS IS A MODEL THAT PEOPLE

2:11:37 FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE

2:11:39 WORLD ARE LEARNING FROM.

2:11:41 WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

2:11:43 BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL CENTER

2:11:45 FOR RODENT RESEARCH, INCLUDING

2:11:47 THE WHOLE AI COMMUNICATION

2:11:49 GOING ON AND THE DEVELOPING

2:11:51 OF SAFER ALTERNATIVES TO

2:11:53 RODENTICIDE.

2:11:54 WE'VE ALSO BECOME REALLY,

2:11:56 REALLY IMPORTANT WITH OUR

2:11:57 ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND

2:11:58 OUR REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AS WE

2:12:00 LEARNED THAT OUR YOU KNOW,

2:12:02 BIRDS ARE RAPTOR BIRDS ARE

2:12:04 ALMOST 80% INFECTED NOW WITH

2:12:06 RODENTICIDES.

2:12:07 BUT YOU KNOW, RATS DON'T

2:12:09 RESPECT PROPERTY LINES

2:12:11 NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES OR OUR

2:12:12 MISCIBLE BORDERS.

2:12:13 THIS SIMPLY ISN'T A RAT CITY

2:12:16 PROBLEM WHICH BY THE WAY I HAVE

2:12:18 A PROBLEM WITH TOO.

2:12:19 IT'S A GREATER BOSTON PROBLEM.

2:12:21 PUBLIC HEALTH REQUIREMENT THAT

2:12:22 WERE WAS REALLY NEEDS ACROSS.

2:12:29 THE STATE HOLISTIC REGIONAL

2:12:32 APPROACH.

2:12:33 WE HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES ONE

2:12:34 WE NEED THE PUBLIC HEALTH

2:12:36 COMMUNICATION GUYS WE ALREADY

2:12:37 HAVE THE TOOLS 311 HEAT MAPS

2:12:39 NEIGHBORHOOD DATA TRACKING BUT

2:12:41 THE DATA WON'T CHANGE OUR

2:12:43 BEHAVIOR.

2:12:43 WE NEED A COORDINATED

2:12:45 MULTILINGUAL COMMUNITY

2:12:47 COMMUNICATION STRATEGY REACHING

2:12:48 THE LANDLORDS, THE TENANTS,

2:12:50 STUDENTS, UNIVERSITIES,

2:12:52 RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES AND

2:12:53 NOT JUST BOSTON REGIONALLY,

2:12:56 CAMBRIDGE WANTS TO WORK WITH

2:12:57 US.

2:12:57 BROOKLINE WANTS TO WORK WITH

2:12:58 US.

2:12:58 THERE WAS SO MUCH GOODWILL OUT

2:13:00 THERE.

2:13:01 WELLESLEY WANTS TO WORK WITH US

2:13:02 WHERE I GREW UP WITH A HUGE RAT

2:13:04 PROBLEM THERE.

2:13:05 MY MOM WAS HEAD OF NATURAL

2:13:06 RESOURCES FOR A WHILE.

2:13:08 SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE

2:13:09 PERSONAL EXAMPLE AND I'M GOING

2:13:11 TO BE DONE.

2:13:11 BUT I HAVE TO CALL OUT THE

2:13:13 WOMAN WHO JUST SPOKE.

2:13:14 I DIDN'T MEAN TO LAUGH BUT I'VE

2:13:16 GOT DISNEY WORLD BEHIND MY

2:13:17 HOUSE.

2:13:18 OKAY.

2:13:19 I WOULDN'T SAY OUR NEIGHBOR

2:13:20 JUST BOUGHT A THREE WHAT USED

2:13:22 TO BE SIX PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE

2:13:23 NOW THERE'S 12.

2:13:24 THEY HAVE NOT MANY TRASH CANS.

2:13:27 BASICALLY I'VE COMMUNICATED

2:13:29 MANY TIMES.

2:13:30 THANK YOU.

2:13:32 CAN CAN YOU WRAP IT UP?

2:13:34 YES.

2:13:35 WE NEED TO HAVE THESE

2:13:36 LANDLORDS THESE ABSENTEE

2:13:37 LANDLORDS BE ACCOUNTABLE NOT

2:13:38 GIVEN ANY MORE YOU KNOW

2:13:41 CONSTRUCTION PERMITS UNTIL THEY

2:13:43 CLEAN UP.

2:13:43 HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU TICKET

2:13:45 SOMEONE 25 BUCKS THEY'RE GOING

2:13:46 TO STOP IT.

2:13:47 I HAVE RATS COMING INTO MY

2:13:49 CHILDREN'S BIKES INTO THEIR

2:13:51 ROOMS.

2:13:51 OUR WHOLE ENTIRE HOUSE IS

2:13:53 INFESTED AND IT IS NOT GOING TO

2:13:54 STOP UNTIL YOU GUYS TOLD THOSE

2:13:57 LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE.

2:13:59 THANK YOU.

2:14:04 MY DOG KILLS THEM.

2:14:07 OKAY.

2:14:10 I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE THREE

2:14:13 PEOPLE ON THE ZOOM THAT WANT TO

2:14:17 TESTIFY.

2:14:17 AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO ONE

2:14:19 FINAL ROUND WITH UM THE

2:14:20 REMAINING CITY

2:14:22 COUNCIL COLLEAGUES.

2:14:24 UM BUT IS VALERIE STILL WITH US

2:14:27 ON ZOOM?

2:14:37 MA'AM, DID YOU MENTIONED RATS

2:14:39 WERE COMING INTO YOU INTO THE

2:14:40 ROOM?

2:14:41 JUST COMING ALL THE WAY BACK.

2:14:43 INTO THE HOUSE.

2:14:44 ON THE SECOND FLOOR LOOKING FOR

2:14:46 A BETTER OKAY.

2:14:48 THE COMING INTO YOUR HOUSE.

2:14:50 FOR US.

2:14:50 WE.

2:14:53 OKAY?

2:15:00 OKAY, OKAY.

2:15:02 UM, COULD WE ASK TRACY IF SHE'D

2:15:04 LIKE TO TESTIFY?

2:15:08 GOOD AFTERNOON.

2:15:08 TRACY.

2:15:29 UM.

2:15:30 TRACY, I THINK YOU MIGHT

2:15:31 HAVE TO ACCEPT AS A PANELIST

2:15:33 AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE MUTED

2:15:35 IF YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, BUT

2:15:37 YOU'RE UP NEXT.

2:15:38 TRACY.

2:15:39 ACCEPT AS A PANELIST.

2:15:51 HI, TRACY.

2:15:56 TRACY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU.

2:15:57 YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE.

2:16:06 HEY, TRACY, WE.

2:16:07 CAN'T HEAR YOU.

2:16:07 YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE.

2:16:23 UH.

2:16:24 TRACY.

2:16:40 WELL IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL

2:16:41 GO WE'LL GO TO CITY

2:16:42 COUNCIL TESTIMONY.

2:16:43 UM, FINISH WITH THE QUESTIONS.

2:16:45 UM.

2:16:50 OKAY.

2:16:50 SHE'S NOT ABLE TO UNMUTE.

2:16:55 OKAY, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO.

2:16:57 TRACY I DON'T THINK WE WERE

2:16:59 ABLE TO GET TO YOU.

2:17:00 UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A

2:17:02 TECHNOLOGY ISSUE.

2:17:03 UM, IS VALERIE THERE OR KELLY?

2:17:11 VALERIE OR KELLY?

2:17:18 ACCEPT AS A PANELIST AND

2:17:20 UNMUTE.

2:17:28 HI, KELLY.

2:17:29 I'M HERE.

2:17:30 HI, KELLY.

2:17:30 YOU'RE UP.

2:17:32 THANK YOU.

2:17:33 I WANT.

2:17:34 TO THANK.

2:17:34 EVERYONE FOR.

2:17:35 LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY.

2:17:37 UM, MY.

2:17:37 NAME IS.

2:17:38 KELLY MCGRATH AND.

2:17:39 I'M THE.

2:17:39 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF.

2:17:41 BRIGHT MAIN STREETS.

2:17:42 UM, IN AUSTIN.

2:17:42 RIGHT.

2:17:43 AND BRIGHTON.

2:17:44 I'M SORRY.

2:17:45 I'M HERE.

2:17:45 BECAUSE RATS ARE A BUSINESS

2:17:47 CARD.

2:17:47 ISSUE, NOT JUST A.

2:17:48 RESIDENTIAL ONE.

2:17:49 UH, SMALL BUSINESSES,

2:17:51 ESPECIALLY FOOD BUSINESSES LIVE

2:17:52 WITH THE CONSEQUENCES EVERY DAY

2:17:55 OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS.

2:17:56 TRASH OUT SET OUT OVERNIGHT AND

2:17:58 BURROWS ALONG THE COMMERCIAL

2:17:59 BLOCKS.

2:18:00 AND BRIGHTON.

2:18:02 IS CONSISTENTLY AMONG THE

2:18:03 NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE HIGHEST

2:18:04 311 RAT COMPLAINTS IN THE CITY

2:18:06 AND I CARD FAILED TO PRESSURE

2:18:08 DIRECTLY.

2:18:08 I'LL INCLUDE AUSTIN IN THAT AS

2:18:10 WELL.

2:18:11 RIGHT MAIN STREETS IS TRYING BY

2:18:13 BRINGING THE ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM

2:18:15 TO THE DISTRICT FOR WALKS WHICH

2:18:16 WE'VE DONE MANY TIMES.

2:18:18 UM WE HAVE USED THE 311 SYSTEM

2:18:21 AS WELL AND WE ALWAYS DO GET

2:18:23 GREAT RESPONSES AND WE'RE

2:18:24 APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND WE'RE

2:18:26 ALSO TRYING TO BUILD A

2:18:27 REPORTING CULTURE ON THE

2:18:28 CORRIDOR.

2:18:30 UM BUT WE ALL KNOW IT ONLY

2:18:32 WORKS IF YOU KNOW THE RESPONSE

2:18:33 WE KEPT AT PACE.

2:18:36 AS YOU.

2:18:37 AS WE REVIEW THE STATUS OF THE

2:18:38 ROAD AN ACTION PLAN WE HOPE

2:18:39 ENFORCEMENT AND FOLLOW THROUGH

2:18:41 REACH THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS

2:18:42 WITH THE SAME URGENCY AS

2:18:44 RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS AND KEEP

2:18:45 REPORTING BACK TO THE DISTRICTS

2:18:47 ON WHAT THE DATA SHOWS.

2:18:48 UH BUSINESSES WILL DO THEIR

2:18:50 PART ON SANITATION, BUT WE NEED

2:18:52 A PLAN TO MEET US THERE.

2:18:55 WE REPRESENT THE SMALL

2:18:56 BUSINESSES OF AUSTIN BRIGHTON'S

2:18:57 COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS.

2:18:58 WE ASK THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE

2:18:59 THE ROAD AND ACTION PLANS

2:19:01 ENFORCEMENT AND FOLLOW THROUGH

2:19:02 REACH COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS WITH

2:19:04 THE SAME URGENCY AS THE

2:19:06 RESIDENTS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO

2:19:10 HELP BY DOING THE WALKS DURING

2:19:12 THE 311 REPORTING AND HOPEFULLY

2:19:15 BE ABLE TO PILOT SOME PROGRAMS

2:19:17 WITH THESE NEW TRASH BARRELS

2:19:18 AND THOSE DUMPSTERS THAT I'VE

2:19:20 SEEN AT COMMONWEALTH FIDELIS

2:19:21 AND I'M SO IMPRESSED BY.

2:19:23 THANK YOU.

2:19:24 THANK YOU KELLY.

2:19:25 THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

2:19:27 TESTIMONY.

2:19:27 GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

2:19:35 I THINK I THINK TRACY MIGHT BE

2:19:38 ON WITH US.

2:19:52 TRACY.

2:19:53 JUST ONCE.

2:19:54 OKAY.

2:19:54 WE LOST TRACY.

2:19:56 ELLEN.

2:19:58 ELLEN, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO

2:20:00 ACCEPT AS A PANELIST AND UNMUTE

2:20:02 PLEASE.

2:20:05 AND I THINK THAT WILL BE IT FOR

2:20:07 PUBLIC TESTIMONY AFTER ELLEN.

2:20:26 OH, ELLEN.

2:20:30 OKAY.

2:20:30 WE'LL GET A WE'RE GOING TO

2:20:31 GO RIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL.

2:20:33 UM FINAL ROUND OF QUESTIONING.

2:20:35 UH, DO APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE

2:20:39 TECHNOLOGY MIX UP HERE.

2:20:41 UH, WE HAD SOME TECHNOLOGY, UH

2:20:43 ,CHALLENGES AT THE VERY

2:20:44 BEGINNING.

2:20:45 THE CITY SITE WAS DOWN AND IT

2:20:48 IMPACTED US AS WELL.

2:20:50 BUT LET ME GO TO, UM

2:20:52 COUNCILOR BREADON, UM, FOR A

2:20:55 FINAL ROUND OF QUESTIONING.

2:20:57 I'M GOING TO GIVE EACH CITY

2:20:59 COUNCIL A THREE MINUTES, BUT I

2:21:00 AM NOT GOING TO CUT OFF THE, UM

2:21:02 ,THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE, UH

2:21:05 PERSON UH UM ANSWERING THE

2:21:08 QUESTION.

2:21:08 COUNCIL?

2:21:08 BREADON, YOU'RE UP NEXT.

2:21:10 UM THANK YOU.

2:21:11 COUNCILOR FLYNN AND.

2:21:12 THANK YOU TO ALL THE FOLKS

2:21:13 WHO'VE TAKEN TIME TO TESTIFY

2:21:15 THIS MORNING.

2:21:16 UM.

2:21:17 AND ALLSTON BRIGHTON.

2:21:18 YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE

2:21:19 HOTSPOTS.

2:21:20 UM, ALLSTON VILLAGE UH, ONE

2:21:22 QUESTION WAS, UH, THE RULE AND

2:21:24 PROOF TRASHCANS WE WERE

2:21:26 PROMISED THEM LAST YEAR.

2:21:27 ASKED ABOUT IT THIS YEAR.

2:21:28 STILL NOT COMING?

2:21:30 UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT

2:21:31 PUT IT PUT IT OUT.

2:21:32 YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE

2:21:34 CONSISTENT IF IT'S A PRIORITY

2:21:35 FOR ALLISON BRIGHTON, UM, THEN

2:21:38 WE SHOULD BE GETTING A ROAD AND

2:21:39 PRICE TAG OF TIME.

2:21:40 UH, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE I'VE

2:21:41 GOT WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES, SO

2:21:43 I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT

2:21:44 THERE.

2:21:44 UH, IN TERMS OF THE COMPOSTING

2:21:46 ,THE FOOD, THE CURBSIDE

2:21:48 COMPOSTING IS INCREDIBLY

2:21:50 POPULAR.

2:21:51 UH, I KNOW THERE'S A CHANGE IN

2:21:52 THE IN THE PROTOCOL RIGHT NOW

2:21:54 IT'S GOING TO GO TO EVERY OTHER

2:21:55 WEEK.

2:21:55 ARE WE GOING TO DO SOME LIKE

2:21:57 GET SOME DATA ON.

2:21:59 UH LIKE I'M ANTICIPATING

2:22:00 THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE FOOD

2:22:02 IN THE TRASH AGAIN AND WE'RE

2:22:03 GOING TO SEE MORE RODENTS.

2:22:04 UM ARE WE GOING TO TRY AND DO A

2:22:06 LITTLE PILOT STUDY AND JUST TO

2:22:07 FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING

2:22:08 WITH THAT?

2:22:09 I THINK IT'S.

2:22:09 A GREAT SUGGESTION.

2:22:10 UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE

2:22:11 WORKING.

2:22:11 ON WITH.

2:22:12 UH, PUBLIC.

2:22:12 WORKS TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT

2:22:13 FURTHER.

2:22:14 UM, TO YOUR POINT AROUND UM.

2:22:15 KIND OF A LOT OF PEOPLE

2:22:16 INTERESTED.

2:22:17 IN THIS PROGRAM, ONE OF THE

2:22:18 REASONS WE WENT TO BIWEEKLY WAS

2:22:20 TO EXPAND THE NUMBER

2:22:21 OF PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM.

2:22:22 SO DOING THAT ALLOWED US TO

2:22:24 ACTUALLY EXPAND, UH.

2:22:25 AND INCORPORATE ANOTHER 1100 UH

2:22:27 RESIDENTS INTO THAT PILOT

2:22:28 PROGRAM.

2:22:28 THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH ROOM FOR

2:22:30 ROOM IN THE FREEZER.

2:22:31 NO TO KEEP THE FOOD TO THE NEXT

2:22:33 WEEK.

2:22:34 UM.

2:22:34 ONE OF OUR TEST ONE OF OUR, UH

2:22:38 ,CONSTITUENTS TALKED ABOUT BAD

2:22:39 LANDLORDS AND, UH, THE FACT

2:22:42 THAT THESE LANDLORDS ARE

2:22:43 PERPETUAL OFFENDERS AND THAT

2:22:45 THEY KEEP COMING BACK AND GET

2:22:47 ZONING RELIEF.

2:22:48 UM, OUR OFFICE IS JUST I'VE

2:22:50 JUST FILED A BAD LANDLORDS

2:22:52 ORDINANCE AND ONE OF THE, UH,

2:22:54 TEETH IN THE ORDINANCE IS THAT

2:22:56 IF YOU'RE A CHRONIC OFFENDER, A

2:22:57 BAD LANDLORD THAT ARE IS UH, IS

2:23:01 CONSTANTLY, UH, NOT COMPLYING

2:23:02 WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT RULES

2:23:05 ETC. THAT IF YOU COME BACK TO

2:23:07 THE ZONING BOARD THAT WILL SAY

2:23:08 EXCUSE ME NO GO AWAY, FIX UP

2:23:11 YOUR ISSUES AND COME BACK AND

2:23:13 WE'LL TALK TO YOU.

2:23:14 BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE

2:23:16 SOME REALLY, REALLY TEETH IN

2:23:17 THERE AND I THINK THAT'S ONE

2:23:18 OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE

2:23:19 MISSING HERE IN TERMS OF WE

2:23:21 HAVE CHRONIC OFFENDERS THAT ARE

2:23:22 JUST NOT UM DELIVERING IN TERMS

2:23:25 OF QUALITY SERVICE, UM AND NOT

2:23:27 COMPLYING WITH OUR

2:23:29 CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY

2:23:30 JUST GET A FREE PASS.

2:23:32 AND THEN ALSO JOHN, I KNOW

2:23:34 WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS

2:23:35 CONVERSATION YEARLY I THIS IS

2:23:37 MY SEVENTH YEAR I THINK A

2:23:38 PRINTER HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS IN

2:23:40 THE EARLY TALKS WE TALKED ABOUT

2:23:43 FINES AND YOU SAID THE FINES

2:23:45 ALSO KNOWN THAT'S JUST THE COST

2:23:46 OF DOING BUSINESS.

2:23:47 WELL ONE AS A CONSEQUENCE

2:23:49 OF THOSE COMMENTS FROM YOU AND

2:23:50 OTHERS WE WENT AND GOT A FORMAL

2:23:53 PETITION PASSED AT THE STATE

2:23:55 HOUSE TO RAISE THE MAXIMUM FINE

2:23:57 TO $2,000 AND FOR CHRONIC

2:23:59 OFFENDERS PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT

2:24:01 DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

2:24:02 ARE WE ENFORCING THE RULES AND

2:24:04 WE CHANGE THE FINES AND ARE

2:24:06 REINFORCING THAT NEW STRUCTURE?

2:24:08 SO I WE DO NOT ISSUE FINES OUR

2:24:12 UH VIOLATIONS ENFORCING IT'S

2:24:14 CODE ENFORCEMENT.

2:24:14 AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE

2:24:16 THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT WITH THE

2:24:18 THE ORDINANCE AND THE CHANGE

2:24:20 OF OF THE COST OF OF FINES THEY

2:24:24 ENFORCE VERY SIMILAR CODES.

2:24:26 AND SO TOGETHER WITH THE UM THE

2:24:29 ISSUE OF THE FINE IN WITH UH

2:24:31 VIOLATIONS UH WHEN IT INVOLVES

2:24:33 RODENTS.

2:24:35 UM THAT CASE MOVING FORWARD TO

2:24:37 HOUSING COURT IS REALLY THE

2:24:38 BEST WAY TO RESOLVE IT.

2:24:40 UM, YEAH.

2:24:42 SO I'LL I'LL FOLLOW.

2:24:44 UP ON THAT.

2:24:45 I THOUGHT YEAH.

2:24:45 I CAN YEAH PLEASE.

2:24:46 BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT TOOK US

2:24:48 TWO YEARS TO GET THAT HOME RULE

2:24:49 PETITION PASSED.

2:24:50 IT'S NO SMALL THING.

2:24:51 UM, I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO SEE

2:24:53 ACTUALLY SOME RETURN ON THE IN

2:24:55 THE EFFORT.

2:24:57 UM, AND THEN ONE LAST THING IN

2:24:58 TERMS OF ALLSTON IT'S IS ONE

2:25:01 OF THOSE UH UM WHEN WILL THERE

2:25:03 BE A REASSESSMENT OF ITS

2:25:05 PRIORITY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA

2:25:07 THAT NEEDS ATTENTION AND WHAT

2:25:08 SORT OF METRICS WILL WE HAVE TO

2:25:11 SAY THAT OKAY, WE'VE WE'VE GOT

2:25:13 THE PROBLEM SORTED.

2:25:15 UH, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT.

2:25:17 UM, ONE THING THAT WE DISCUSSED

2:25:19 IN GREAT DETAIL WITH DOCTOR

2:25:20 CORRIGAN WHEN HE WAS HERE FOR

2:25:21 THE NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT WAS

2:25:22 ACTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER WITH

2:25:24 NEW YORK OVER THE NEXT MANY

2:25:25 MONTHS UM, PROBABLY THE NEXT

2:25:27 YEAR TO REALLY, UH, BETTER

2:25:28 UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE TEN,

2:25:29 UH, FACTORS THAT LEAD TO

2:25:31 INCREASED RODENT POPULATION AND

2:25:33 RAT HABITATS?

2:25:34 UH, AND I THINK AFTER WE KIND

2:25:35 OF WORKED TOGETHER, UM, BETWEEN

2:25:37 SITES IN NEW YORK AND SITES

2:25:38 HERE IN BOSTON WHERE WE'RE

2:25:39 EXPERIENCING CHALLENGES AND

2:25:40 COMPARE FINDINGS, I THINK THOSE

2:25:42 FACTORS WILL HELP US KIND

2:25:43 OF REASSESS SOME OF THESE PAN

2:25:44 NEIGHBORHOODS AS YOU'RE

2:25:45 MENTIONING.

2:25:46 UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU

2:25:47 BROUGHT UP EARLIER WAS THE WORK

2:25:48 AT RINGER PARK.

2:25:49 RINGER PARK IS ONE EXAMPLE

2:25:51 OF KIND OF OUR EFFORTS UH,

2:25:52 ALLSTON BRIGHTON WIDE.

2:25:54 UM WE'RE DEPLOYING OUR OUR OUR

2:25:55 MACHINE THERE UH REGULARLY AS

2:25:58 WELL AS MEASURING THE IMPACT

2:25:59 OF THAT MACHINE USING THE BASIC

2:26:01 AI TOOLS AND I THINK SITES LIKE

2:26:03 THAT WILL KIND OF HELP US MAKE

2:26:04 A LONG TERM ANALYSIS OF WHERE

2:26:06 WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DEVOTE

2:26:08 RESOURCES AND THEN WHERE WE CAN

2:26:09 REALLOCATE RESOURCES DEPENDING

2:26:10 ON THE SEVERITY OF THE PROBLEM

2:26:11 .

2:26:12 I THINK RINGER PARK IS A CASE

2:26:14 IN POINT RIGHT ACROSS THE FENCE

2:26:15 FROM RINGER PARK WAS THERE ON A

2:26:17 WALK RECENTLY.

2:26:18 THERE ARE UM THERE'S THERE'S

2:26:21 BUILDINGS UM IN WHICH THE

2:26:23 MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ARE NOT

2:26:25 DISPOSING OF THEIR TRASH

2:26:26 APPROPRIATELY.

2:26:27 SO THERE'S A BUFFET RIGHT

2:26:28 ACROSS THE FENCE AND THEN YOU

2:26:30 HAVE A NICE WOODED AREA WITH

2:26:31 PROVIDES LOTS OF COVER UH, FOR

2:26:33 FOR RODENTS TO LIVE AND I THINK

2:26:36 .

2:26:37 WE NEED WE NEED TO START HAVING

2:26:39 OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AND

2:26:40 OUR LANDLORDS DO THEIR FAIR

2:26:42 SHARE TO HELP MAKE IT ADDRESS

2:26:44 THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE, UH, WE

2:26:46 CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEIR

2:26:47 COOPERATION AND IF WE HAVE TO

2:26:49 FORCE THEM TO DO IT, THEN WE'RE

2:26:50 GOING TO HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO

2:26:51 DO IT.

2:26:51 BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS AS

2:26:53 SOMEBODY SAID, A REALLY SERIOUS

2:26:55 PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

2:26:57 UH, IF ANIMALS, PETS AND AND

2:27:01 INDIVIDUALS ADULTS, HUMAN

2:27:02 BEINGS ARE GETTING UP TO

2:27:04 LEPTOSPIROSIS AND UH IT'S A

2:27:07 QUALITY OF ISSUE QUALITY

2:27:08 OF LIFE ISSUE BUT IT'S ALSO A

2:27:09 PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.

2:27:10 YEAH SO RIGGER PARK UM I THINK

2:27:13 THERE'S THREE PROPERTY

2:27:15 MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ON THE

2:27:16 OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE.

2:27:17 YEAH.

2:27:18 WHICH UH I BELIEVE WE HAVE OPEN

2:27:19 CASES FOR ALL THREE OF THEM

2:27:21 WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE

2:27:23 CASE OPEN SOME THE CHALLENGE

2:27:25 WOULD TRASH IS THAT THE

2:27:28 VIOLATION?

2:27:28 THEY CAN CLEAN UP THE TRASH.

2:27:30 UM, BUT BECAUSE IT'S AN ONGOING

2:27:32 ISSUE, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE

2:27:34 CASE OPEN, HAVE THEM ALL COME

2:27:36 IN FOR A HEARING.

2:27:37 THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ALSO

2:27:38 INVESTING MONEY INTO THE URBAN

2:27:40 WILDS TO CLEAR OUT SOME OF THE

2:27:42 DEBRIS TO GIVE MY TEAM ACCESS

2:27:44 TO THE BURROWS SO WE CAN USE

2:27:46 THE MACHINE.

2:27:47 AND THEN WE'RE MEASURING WITH

2:27:49 THE TOOLS OF BASIS AI TO SEE

2:27:52 THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING

2:27:54 WITH THAT MACHINE.

2:27:55 SO HOPEFULLY WE SEE A HUGE

2:27:57 IMPROVEMENT UH VERY SOON.

2:27:59 THANK YOU.

2:28:00 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

2:28:00 THANK YOU.

2:28:01 THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT

2:28:02 .

2:28:02 UM, I'M GOING TO COUNCIL.

2:28:04 I'M HERE.

2:28:04 COUNCILMEMBER HERE.

2:28:05 YOU'RE UP.

2:28:06 THANK YOU.

2:28:07 UM, SO.

2:28:09 I'M CURIOUS UH.

2:28:11 I HEARD ABOUT.

2:28:12 UM.

2:28:13 THE SITUATION WITH THE.

2:28:15 WITH THE YOUNG UM WITH THE.

2:28:17 WITH THE CHILD.

2:28:19 WELL.

2:28:19 THE YOUNG PERSON, NOT A CHILD.

2:28:22 UM, AND I'M CURIOUS HOW MANY

2:28:25 MEDICAL, UH, SITUATIONS HAVE

2:28:27 THE HAVE YOU KNOWN ABOUT?

2:28:30 YES.

2:28:31 I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, UM.

2:28:32 DIRECTLY FROM THE BOSTON.

2:28:33 PUBLIC UH.

2:28:34 HEALTH COMMISSION, BUT WHAT I

2:28:36 WOULD SAY IS THAT, UH, IN

2:28:37 COLLABORATION WITH DOCTOR

2:28:38 HAMMERSTEIN WHO'S THE CHIEF

2:28:39 INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT AT

2:28:42 FCPS, UM, SHE'S LET US KNOW

2:28:43 THAT THE CASE NUMBERS ARE

2:28:45 RELATIVELY LOW.

2:28:46 UM, AND TO KIND OF.

2:28:48 HELP PREVENT.

2:28:49 LEPTOSPIROSIS OR OTHER PUBLIC

2:28:50 HEALTH ASSOCIATED DISEASES, THE

2:28:51 BEST WAY IS FOCUSING ON

2:28:53 SANITATION AND THE OTHER

2:28:54 EFFORTS WE'RE DEPLOYING TO

2:28:55 MITIGATE RATS.

2:28:56 NO FILIBUSTERED CAUSE.

2:28:57 I GOT TWO MORE MINUTES LEFT.

2:28:59 UH.

2:28:59 HOLD UP.

2:29:00 I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION.

2:29:01 STAY WITH ME OUT OF THESE

2:29:05 MEDICAL EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A

2:29:07 LOW HUM.

2:29:07 UM, HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN PAYING

2:29:09 THE MEDICAL BILLS AND TAKING

2:29:11 CARE OF FOLKS WHO, YOU KNOW,

2:29:14 HAVE HAD TO TAKE TIME OFF OR

2:29:16 LIKE WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE IN

2:29:17 TERMS OF OUR OWN

2:29:18 ACCOUNTABILITY?

2:29:18 ARE WE FEELING THE FINANCIAL

2:29:20 IMPACT ON THAT?

2:29:21 I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION,

2:29:23 COUNSELOR.

2:29:23 YEAH BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING A

2:29:25 LOT ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND I

2:29:26 REALLY DO THINK THAT ONCE WE

2:29:28 START FILLING IT IN OUR OWN

2:29:29 POCKETS, THEN WE START REALLY

2:29:30 THINKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT

2:29:31 IT HAS ON OUR CONSTITUENTS AND

2:29:32 NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO

2:29:34 BE PAYING PEOPLE'S MEDICAL

2:29:35 BILLS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A

2:29:37 ROLE THAT WE PLAY IN HAVING TO,

2:29:40 YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SOME OF THESE

2:29:43 CONCERNS.

2:29:44 SO I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE

2:29:45 ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE HERE.

2:29:47 UM, RESTAURANTS LANDLORDS AND

2:29:49 RESIDENTS ARE KIND OF LIKE THE

2:29:50 THREE BUCKETS THAT I SEE IN

2:29:51 TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THIS LOOKS

2:29:53 LIKE UM FEES, FINES ENFORCEMENT

2:29:58 WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR

2:30:00 RESTAURANTS?

2:30:01 WHO'S TRACKING THAT AND HOW

2:30:03 MUCH MONEY ARE WE MAKING TO

2:30:04 HELP SUPPORT THE PREVENTION AND

2:30:07 EDUCATION EFFORTS AS A RESULT.

2:30:09 OF THIS?

2:30:10 SO VIOLATIONS.

2:30:11 UM, IF IF TRASH IS A VIOLATION

2:30:14 WITH RESTAURANT

2:30:16 CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES THE

2:30:18 PUNITIVE FINED BY IS THE UH

2:30:20 FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS LICENSED

2:30:22 FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS UH OVERSEEN

2:30:24 BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT UH DAN

2:30:27 PRENDERGAST HIS TEAM AND THEY

2:30:30 ARE INSPECTED REGULARLY UM THEY

2:30:32 HAVE A LICENSE AND UM THEY CAN

2:30:35 WRITE VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE THEY

2:30:37 HAVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM.

2:30:39 WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT.

2:30:41 NOT KNOW LIKE FINANCIAL

2:30:43 VIOLATIONS OR JUST LIKE.

2:30:45 SO I'M TALKING ABOUT MONEY.

2:30:46 I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE I THINK

2:30:48 THAT PEOPLE RESPOND WHEN THEY

2:30:49 START FEELING THE IMPACT IN

2:30:51 THEIR POCKETS.

2:30:52 AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHETHER

2:30:54 OR NOT RESTAURANTS ARE BEING

2:30:57 FINED FINANCIALLY.

2:31:00 FOR THE HARM THAT THEY ARE

2:31:02 CAUSING THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE

2:31:04 IN AND AROUND THEIR

2:31:05 ESTABLISHMENT.

2:31:06 SO I CAN ADD TO JOHN'S RESPONSE

2:31:09 .

2:31:09 SO EVERY RESTAURANT THAT STORES

2:31:11 TRASH HAS TO APPLY BY THE SITE

2:31:13 COMMUNIST UH PROGRAM AN

2:31:14 ORDINANCE THAT JOHN AND HIS

2:31:15 TEAM UH OVERSEE UH IF A

2:31:17 RESTAURANT DOESN'T HAVE A SITE

2:31:19 CLEANLINESS LICENSE, UH, AND

2:31:21 CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES OUT AND

2:31:22 SEES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT

2:31:23 LICENSE, THEY WILL ISSUE A

2:31:25 $1,000 FINE.

2:31:26 UM.

2:31:26 AND.

2:31:26 HOW MANY DOLLARS HAVE WE HAVE?

2:31:28 UH, LIKE I.

2:31:30 THINK WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK

2:31:30 TO YOU ON THE ANALYSIS OF HOW

2:31:31 MANY FINES THAT IT ISSUED AND

2:31:32 ADD UP THAT MATH FOR.

2:31:33 YEAH, BECAUSE.

2:31:33 I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE

2:31:35 POINT OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING

2:31:35 TO DO IN TERMS OF INTERVENTION

2:31:37 AND EDUCATION AND PREVENTION

2:31:39 LIKE WE SHOULDN'T ALL JUST COME

2:31:41 FROM THE CITY LIKE THE FOLKS

2:31:43 WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS IN THE

2:31:44 CITY SHOULD PLAY A ROLE IN

2:31:47 HELPING TO SUPPORT THE

2:31:48 RESIDENTS AND THIS ISSUE I'M

2:31:50 JUST GIVING YOU ALL SOMETHING

2:31:52 TO THINK ABOUT.

2:31:53 SAME UH, WITH THE LANDLORDS UM

2:31:56 AND RESIDENTS TOO.

2:31:57 I KNOW THAT IF YOUR GARBAGE IS

2:31:59 OVERFLOWING YOU GET A VIOLATION

2:32:01 AND RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY IT.

2:32:06 SO CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, IS THE

2:32:07 ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT WOULD

2:32:08 DEAL WITH RESIDENTIAL.

2:32:09 SO RESIDENTIAL FOLKS ARE.

2:32:11 PAYING UM BUT AND LANDLORDS I

2:32:13 KNOW THAT COUNCILOR AND MY TIME

2:32:16 IS UP AND I'M JUST I HAVE SO

2:32:18 MANY MORE QUESTIONS BUT THIS IS

2:32:20 NOT AN ISSUE AND I'LL BE HONEST

2:32:21 WITH YOU MOST OF THE

2:32:22 CONSTITUENTS THAT I SERVE ARE

2:32:25 DEALING WITH ISSUES AROUND

2:32:26 VIOLENCE AND A LOT OF OTHER

2:32:27 ISSUES.

2:32:28 SO THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE

2:32:29 TOPICS THAT I HAVE FOCUSED A

2:32:31 LOT OF MY ENERGY ON.

2:32:32 BUT I WILL SAY I'M GLAD THAT I

2:32:34 CAME TO THIS HEARING BECAUSE

2:32:36 SOME OF THE INFESTATION ARE IN

2:32:38 PEOPLE'S HOMES.

2:32:39 THEY MAY NOT BE BIG OLE RATS

2:32:41 BUT THEY'RE LITTLE MICE.

2:32:42 I KNOW THAT THAT ALSO IS AN

2:32:44 ISSUE AND I THINK THAT THE BIG

2:32:46 RATS HAVE BABIES AND EVERYONE

2:32:49 IS HAVING THE SAME ISSUE.

2:32:50 SO I THINK THAT THE NEXT TIME

2:32:51 WE DO THIS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE

2:32:53 YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FOLKS

2:32:54 FROM THE HOUSING UM DORCHESTER

2:32:56 ,ROXBURY.

2:32:57 MATTAPAN.

2:32:58 UH, FOLKS COMING HERE TO

2:33:00 TESTIFY AND HAVING THIS AS A

2:33:02 COLLECTIVE CONVERSATION BECAUSE

2:33:04 WHETHER THEY'RE BIG RATS OR

2:33:06 MICE IS STILL AN INFESTATION IS

2:33:08 AN INFAMOUS UM, INFESTATION.

2:33:09 AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN

2:33:12 OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, UH,

2:33:13 ORGANIZE ACROSS, YOU KNOW, OUR

2:33:16 NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THIS ISSUE

2:33:17 AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AT LEAST

2:33:19 BEING A PART OF THAT

2:33:20 CONVERSATION AND HELPFUL IN ANY

2:33:21 KIND OF WAY.

2:33:22 AND MY TIME IS UP.

2:33:24 SO Y'ALL LUCKY THAT I DON'T I

2:33:26 CAN'T.

2:33:26 GET AT.

2:33:27 YOU OFFER SOME.

2:33:27 MORE QUESTIONS.

2:33:28 THANK THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER

2:33:30 HERE.

2:33:32 I ALSO TAKE UH THREE MINUTES

2:33:35 AND.

2:33:37 WHAT I FOUND MOST VALUABLE

2:33:39 ABOUT THIS HEARING IS THE

2:33:41 PUBLIC TESTIMONY FROM RESIDENTS

2:33:43 .

2:33:45 BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A

2:33:46 MAJOR DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT

2:33:49 RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED.

2:33:50 TODAY AND WHAT THE

2:33:54 ADMINISTRATION HAS EXPRESSED

2:33:55 TODAY.

2:33:56 RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED TO

2:33:59 ME AND TO CITY

2:33:59 COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THIS IS A

2:34:01 MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH PUBLIC

2:34:03 SAFETY QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.

2:34:05 I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING

2:34:06 ON THIS ISSUE FOR NINE YEARS.

2:34:09 THE ISSUE IS NOT GETTING

2:34:11 BETTER.

2:34:11 IN FACT IT'S GETTING WORSE.

2:34:14 WE CAN'T SAY THINGS ARE GETTING

2:34:15 BETTER AND TELL RESIDENTS THEY

2:34:18 ARE GETTING BETTER WHEN WHEN A

2:34:20 RAT JUMPS ON SOME BABIES, SOME

2:34:22 BABY.

2:34:22 CARRIAGE WHEN WHEN A YOUNG

2:34:25 PERSON UM IS EXPOSED TO A RAT

2:34:28 AND GETS LEPTOSPIROSIS.

2:34:33 THOSE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES.

2:34:35 THAT'S PUBLIC HEALTH.

2:34:37 THAT'S QUALITY OF LIFE.

2:34:38 THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY SOMEWHAT

2:34:40 OF SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT THE

2:34:42 RATS EATING THROUGH THEIR

2:34:44 UNDERNEATH THEIR CAR PROBABLY

2:34:46 IMPACTING MAYBE THE STEERING,

2:34:48 MAYBE THE BRAKES.

2:34:51 UM RESIDENTS ARE USING THEIR

2:34:53 OWN MONEY TO DEAL WITH PEST

2:34:55 CONTROL HIRING A PEST CONTROL

2:34:58 SPECIALIST.

2:35:00 EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PAYING HUGE

2:35:01 PROPERTY TAXES.

2:35:05 WHAT I ALSO UNDERSTAND AND I

2:35:09 KNEW THIS FOR YEARS IS THE

2:35:13 PEOPLE HERE ARE DOING THE BEST

2:35:14 JOB THEY CAN UNDER VERY

2:35:16 DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES.

2:35:18 IT'S NOT ENOUGH RESIDENTS

2:35:21 UNACCEPTING THAT ANY LONGER.

2:35:25 RESIDENTS WANT US TO OVERHAUL

2:35:26 THE ENTIRE OPERATION AND HAVE A

2:35:30 CITY DEPARTMENT OF RATS UH,

2:35:33 THAT CAN COORDINATE ALL ASPECTS

2:35:35 OF PEST CONTROL IN THE CITY

2:35:37 RIGHT NOW IT'S SPREAD OUT TO

2:35:40 MANY DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS

2:35:43 AND EVERYONE HAS A HAND IN IT

2:35:45 WHEN EVERYONE IS PARTICIPATING

2:35:47 AND IN MAKING DECISIONS THAT

2:35:49 MEANS THERE'S NO

2:35:50 ACCOUNTABILITY.

2:35:51 THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE

2:35:52 DESIGNATED PERSON OVERALL

2:35:55 RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEST CONTROL

2:35:57 IN THE CITY OF BOSTON THAT HAS

2:35:58 THE AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT THE

2:36:02 OPERATIONS HERE.

2:36:03 SHE SEES FIT TO IMPROVE, UH,

2:36:07 QUALITY OF LIFE CONDITIONS IN

2:36:08 THE CITY AND DEAL WITH PEST

2:36:10 CONTROL.

2:36:10 WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

2:36:11 UM, AGAIN, I'M CALLING FOR A

2:36:14 DESIGNATED RATS ARE IN THE CITY

2:36:16 OF BOSTON.

2:36:16 ELEVATE THE DEPARTMENT.

2:36:19 ELEVATE ELEVATE IT TO A CITY

2:36:21 DEPARTMENT.

2:36:21 I THINK IT'S THAT SERIOUS OF AN

2:36:23 ISSUE THAT IT NEEDS ITS OWN

2:36:25 STANDALONE CITY DEPARTMENT.

2:36:27 AND DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS

2:36:28 I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR THAT

2:36:30 BECAUSE RESIDENTS WANT

2:36:33 ME FIGHTING FOR THESE QUALITY

2:36:35 OF LIFE ISSUES, PUBLIC SAFETY

2:36:37 CHALLENGES.

2:36:38 THEY MIGHT NOT BE SEXY, THEY

2:36:40 MIGHT NOT BE GLAMOROUS.

2:36:41 BUT THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS PUT

2:36:43 ME IN OFFICE FOR IS TO TACKLE

2:36:46 THESE ISSUES QUALITY OF LIFE

2:36:47 ISSUES, PUBLIC SAFETY, PEST

2:36:51 CONTROL WHEN A RAT IS IN

2:36:54 SOMEONE'S HOME THAT'S A

2:36:56 SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR THAT

2:36:58 FAMILY.

2:37:00 THEY HAVE TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE

2:37:02 GOING TO STAY IN THE CITY.

2:37:04 THEY HAVE TO DECIDE.

2:37:05 IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEIR

2:37:06 HOUSE ON THE MARKET.

2:37:07 THAT'S HOW SERIOUS IT IS.

2:37:09 THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS ARE

2:37:11 EXPRESSING TO ME.

2:37:13 THEY WANT US TO MOVE WITH THAT

2:37:15 SENSE OF URGENCY AS IF A RAT IS

2:37:18 IN YOUR OWN HOUSE AND WHAT ARE

2:37:20 YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT?

2:37:21 YOU NEED TO PUT THAT DETERMINED

2:37:23 LEADERSHIP INTO THIS ISSUE TO

2:37:25 IMPROVE PEST CONTROL OPERATIONS

2:37:28 IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.

2:37:33 AGAIN, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

2:37:36 TO THE PANEL FOR BEING HERE.

2:37:38 SAY THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR

2:37:41 TESTIFYING.

2:37:42 I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

2:37:43 COUNCIL BRADEN'S IMPORTANT WORK

2:37:44 THAT SHE'S DONE FOR FOR A LONG

2:37:46 PERIOD OF TIME AND AS THE

2:37:48 ORIGINAL SPONSOR WITH ME, UM, I

2:37:52 WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CITY

2:37:53 COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF FOR

2:37:55 WORKING WITH ME ON THIS.

2:37:57 UM, I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS IN

2:38:00 COMMITTEE.

2:38:00 I MIGHT HAVE A HEARING ON THIS

2:38:02 AT SOME TIME, UM, IN THE NEAR

2:38:05 FUTURE TO GET ANOTHER UPDATE

2:38:07 BECAUSE THIS ISSUE IS NOT GOING

2:38:08 AWAY AND NEITHER ARE THE CITY

2:38:11 COUNCIL'S DOCKET 1804 ORDER.

2:38:13 FOR A HEARING.

2:38:15 TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE

2:38:16 BOSTON RODENT ACTION PLAN IS

2:38:20 OVER.