City Services on October 23, 2026 2026-10-23 [0:30] UM. [0:31] GOOD MORNING. [0:37] FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS ED [0:39] FLYNN, DISTRICT TWO CITY [0:41] COUNCIL CHAIR OF THE BOSTON [0:42] CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON CITY [0:44] SERVICES. [0:45] TODAY IS OCTOBER 23RD, 2026. [0:48] THE EXACT TIME IS TEN. [0:53] OH TWO. [0:54] THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED [0:56] . [0:57] IT IS BEING LIVE [0:59] STREAMED@BOSTON.GOV. [0:59] CITY COUNCIL TV AND BROADCAST [1:04] ON XFINITY CHANNEL EIGHT RCN [1:08] CHANNEL 82 FILES CHANNEL 964. [1:13] WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO [1:15] THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT C C C [1:18] DOT C S CITY@BOSTON.GOV. [1:23] AND WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE [1:25] RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL [1:26] CITY COUNCILORS. [1:30] PUBLIC PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE [1:32] TAKEN THROUGHOUT THE HEARING. [1:35] INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON [1:37] IN ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE [1:39] SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE TWO [1:41] MINUTES TO TESTIFY. [1:42] I ALSO KNOW THAT THIS PEOPLE ON [1:44] ZOOM VIRTUALLY DON'T WANT TO [1:46] TESTIFY AS WELL. [1:48] IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN [1:49] TESTIFYING IN PERSON, PLEASE [1:52] ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP [1:53] SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE [1:55] I AND OUR CHAMBER AS YOU WALK [1:57] IN. [1:58] IF YOU ARE LOOKING TO TESTIFY [2:00] VIRTUALLY PLEASE EMAIL OUR CITY [2:03] COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON [2:05] MEGAN AT MTA GARDEN DOT C O R U [2:13] G D UH MA TIN@BOSTON.GOV. [2:19] LET ME REPEAT THAT EMAIL AGAIN. [2:25] MEAGAN DODD C O R U G E D O M A [2:36] MARTIN@BOSTON.GOV. [2:37] FOR THE LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL [2:40] BE ADDED TO THE LIST. [2:43] TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET 18 [2:45] ZERO FOUR. [2:46] IT'S AN ORDER FOR A HEARING TO [2:47] DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE [2:48] BOSTON ROAD IN ACTION PLAN. [2:50] THE MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY [2:52] COUNCILORS BREADON, [2:54] COUNCILOR AND FLYNN AND WAS [2:56] REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON [3:01] SEPTEMBER. [3:01] 23RD 2026. [3:03] I AM JOINED BY CITY COUNCILORS [3:06] IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL, CITY [3:09] COUNCIL PRESIDENT LIZ BREADON. [3:15] I'M GOING TO GIVE AN [3:16] OPPORTUNITY FOR UM [3:19] COUNCIL OF COUNCIL PRESIDENT [3:20] BREADON TO SPEAK. [3:24] UM I WILL GIVE A OPENING [3:26] STATEMENT AS WELL AFTER THE [3:27] COUNCIL PRESIDENT. [3:29] I WILL GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR [3:31] THE INVITED PANEL TO PROVIDE AN [3:34] OPENING STATEMENT. [3:35] AND THE ADMINISTRATION TEAM [3:36] THAT IS PRESENT INCLUDES JOHN [3:39] O'ROURKE, ASSISTANT [3:40] COMMISSIONER, ENVIRONMENTAL [3:42] SANITATION INSPECTIONAL SERVICE [3:44] DEPARTMENT LUKE HINES, [3:46] CO-CHAIR, BOSTON ROAD AN ACTION [3:47] PLAN. [3:49] JOSH OFFSPRING, THE CHIEF [3:52] OF MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTIONS [3:53] AT THE BOSTON HOUSING AUTHORITY [3:55] . [3:55] AND JEFF KAPLAN WHO'S AT THE DO [3:59] A TEAM INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY [4:02] CITY OF BOSTON. [4:05] UM BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE [4:07] COUNCIL PRESIDENT BREADON AN [4:09] OPPORTUNITY. [4:12] UM AND THEN I'LL THEN I'LL [4:13] SPEAK AFTER COUNCIL BREADON. [4:15] UM, COUNCIL BREADON, YOU HAVE [4:17] THE FLOOR. [4:21] THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. [4:22] FLYNN. [4:23] UM, THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING [4:24] WITH ME ON THIS HEARING. [4:25] AND THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS [4:27] FOR BEING HERE TODAY. [4:29] UM, I ALSO WANT TO THANK ALL [4:31] THE BOSTON RESIDENTS WHO HAVE [4:32] QUITE A FEW FOLKS WHO HAVE [4:33] ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO COME [4:34] IN TO PARTICIPATE OR LISTEN OR [4:37] GIVE TESTIMONY IN THAT TODAY'S [4:38] HEARING. [4:39] UM, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR [4:42] TAKING THE TIME TO SHOW UP. [4:43] UH, SEND IN YOUR COMMENTS OR IF [4:45] YOU'RE WATCHING ONLINE. [4:47] A BIG SHOUT OUT TO THE FOLKS IN [4:48] ALLSTON BRIGHTON WERE CHECKING [4:50] AND LISTENING IN AT HOME. [4:52] RODENT ACTIVITY REMAINS TO BE [4:54] ONE OF THE MOST FREQUENT [4:55] CONCERNS THAT WE HEAR ABOUT UH, [4:57] FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS. [4:59] THE BOSTON RODENT ACTION PLAN [5:00] WAS RELEASED IN 2024 AS AN [5:03] INITIATIVE INTENDED TO [5:05] STREAMLINE AND IMPROVE THE [5:06] CITY'S RODENT CONTROL EFFORTS. [5:08] IT CALLED FOR STRONGER [5:10] INSPECTIONS AND ENFORCEMENT, [5:12] BETTER WASTE MANAGEMENT [5:13] PRACTICES, IMPROVED DATA [5:15] COLLECTION AND COORDINATION [5:17] ACROSS CITY DEPARTMENTS. [5:18] THE REPORT ALSO OUTLINED [5:21] PRIORITY ACTION NEIGHBORHOODS [5:23] PLANS WHERE RODENT CONTROL [5:25] EFFORTS WERE TO BE TARGETED. [5:27] MY DISTRICT OF ALLSTON BRIGHTON [5:29] IS THE SECOND HIGHEST PRIORITY [5:31] PAN IN THE BOSTON UM RODENT [5:34] ACTION PLAN. [5:36] ALLSTON BRIGHTON IS STILL [5:37] WAITING. [5:39] UM I ON BOSTON UH TWO YEARS [5:42] LATER WE HAVE WE'RE STILL [5:44] WAITING FOR UH. [5:46] UM WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A [5:47] PUBLIC UPDATE ON THE PUBLIC [5:49] RODENT ACTION PLAN, WHICH IS [5:50] REALLY IMPORTANT. [5:51] WE'RE HOPING TO GET SOME A [5:53] REALLY GOOD UPDATE ON ON THE [5:55] ROAD ACTION PLAN THIS MORNING. [5:57] ALLSTON BRIGHTON IS WAITING FOR [5:58] TARGETED INTERVENTIONS PROMISED [6:00] . [6:01] THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT [6:02] RODENT RESISTANT TRASH CANS FOR [6:04] ALLSTON VILLAGE, BUT WE'RE [6:05] STILL WAITING FOR THOSE TO BE [6:07] INSTALLED. [6:08] LAST MONTH BOSTON HOSTED THE [6:10] NATIONAL URBAN SUMMIT LEAGUE [6:12] BRINGING TOGETHER RESEARCHERS, [6:14] PUBLIC HEALTH PROFESSIONALS AND [6:16] MUNICIPAL LEADERS TO DISCUSS [6:17] NEW APPROACHES TO OUR RODENT [6:20] CONTROL. [6:21] THIS HEARING IS THE [6:22] COUNCIL REQUESTING AN UPDATE ON [6:24] THE STATUS OF THE WALDEN ACTION [6:25] PLAN, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO [6:27] HEARING FROM INSPECTIONAL [6:28] SERVICES AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS [6:30] INVOLVED IN BOP ABOUT THE [6:31] PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE, [6:33] CURRENT GAPS AND WHAT CAN BE [6:35] DONE TO CURB RODENT ACTIVITY IN [6:36] ALLSTON, BRIGHTON AND ACROSS [6:38] THE NEIGHBORHOODS OF BOSTON. [6:40] UH THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE [6:41] THIS MORNING. [6:42] I LOOK FORWARD TO THE [6:43] CONVERSATION AND UH, THANK YOU [6:45] . [6:45] UM, CHAIR FLYNN. [6:47] THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. [6:48] I'M GOING TO HOLD OFF ON MY [6:50] OPENING STATEMENT AT THIS TIME. [6:51] I MAY DO IT LATER, BUT I WANT [6:53] TO GO RIGHT TO THE [6:54] ADMINISTRATION FOR OPENING [6:55] STATEMENT. [6:56] UM. [7:00] SO OF OF THE FOUR OF YOU WHAT [7:01] ARE YOU DO I WANT TO SPEAK OR. [7:04] THANK YOU COUNCILOR. [7:05] UM. [7:06] WE ACTUALLY HAVE A [7:06] PRESENTATION. [7:07] THAT WE SUBMITTED TO CENTRAL [7:08] STAFF. [7:08] UH, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WE CAN [7:11] PULL THAT PRESENTATION UP AND [7:12] DO THAT FOR OUR OPENING [7:12] STATEMENT? [7:13] SURE. [7:14] UM, HOW MUCH TIME DO WE NEED [7:15] FOR THAT? [7:16] I THINK WE CAN. [7:17] GET THROUGH IN ABOUT, UH, 12 [7:18] MINUTES. [7:19] OKAY. [7:21] I'LL GIVE YOU A 12 MINUTES. [7:26] JUST GIVE ME JUST GIVE ME A [7:28] SECOND. [7:29] NO WORRIES. [7:29] YEAH. [7:42] AFTER THE AFTER THE 12 MINUTES. [7:45] UM, INSTEAD OF US GOING INTO [7:48] QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO TAKE AN [7:50] OPPORTUNITY. [7:51] TO THERE'S. [7:52] A THERE'S 3 OR 4 PEOPLE ON [7:53] ZOOM. [7:54] I MAY TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY. [7:56] TO ASK THEM TO TESTIFY. [7:58] UM, THEY INCLUDE BONNIE KELLY. [8:04] UM, VALENE SMITH AND SOMEONE [8:09] WITH THE INITIAL D SO I MAY [8:12] TAKE THOSE FOR AFTER, UM, YOU [8:15] GIVE YOUR OPENING STATEMENT. [8:23] SO FOR THOSE FOUR PEOPLE I [8:25] MENTIONED. [8:27] UM, ON ZOOM, I'LL BE CALLING ON [8:30] YOU SHORTLY AFTER THIS. [8:33] UM. [8:36] AFTER THE TESTIMONY IT SEEMS [8:38] LIKE THE LIVE STREAM IS DOWN. [8:41] LET US TAKE A BRIEF RECESS. [8:52] TECHNICAL TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT [8:53] UNTIL IT ISN'T. [10:57] WE ARE BACK ON THE RECORD. [10:59] UM, THE THE THERE MIGHT STILL [11:01] BE A TECHNOLOGY ISSUE, BUT I [11:04] WOULD ASK IF PEOPLE WOULD GO TO [11:08] YOUTUBE.COM SLASH BOSTON CITY [11:13] COUNCIL TV. [11:15] UM, AND IF I GET ANOTHER UPDATE [11:18] I WILL PASS IT ALONG. [11:19] UM BUT WE ARE EXPERIENCING SOME [11:21] . [11:23] TECHNOLOGY CHALLENGES WITH UM [11:27] WITH GETTING THIS INFORMATION [11:28] OUT. [11:30] UM, HAVING SAID THAT I WANT TO [11:33] GO DIRECTLY TO JOHN ELRICK. [11:35] UM. [11:39] FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. [11:41] GREAT. [11:42] THANK YOU CHAIR. [11:43] THANK YOU COUNCILOR. [11:46] UM, SO AS COUNCILOR BREADON [11:47] MENTIONED, WE'RE REALLY [11:48] GRATEFUL TO BE HERE TODAY TO [11:50] PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS [11:51] OF THE BOSTON ACTION PLAN. [11:53] UM, IF YOU FLIP TO THE NEXT [11:54] SLIDE, I JUST WANT TO START [11:55] WITH A QUICK AGENDA OF OF WHAT [11:56] WE PLAN TO COVER HERE TODAY. [11:59] SO UM, WE'RE GOING TO START [12:00] JUST GIVING FOLKS AN OVERVIEW [12:02] OF WHAT IS THE ACTION PLAN. [12:03] UH, WHO'S INVOLVED IN IN AND [12:05] KIND OF SOME OF THE KEY FOCUS [12:07] AREAS THAT UH COUNCILOR BRITTON [12:09] OUTLINED IN HER OPENING REMARKS [12:10] . [12:10] UH, WE'RE GOING TO TRANSITION [12:11] INTO TALKING A LITTLE BIT [12:13] AROUND THE RESPONSE EFFORTS TO [12:15] SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS THAT [12:16] WE'VE UH, RECEIVED OVER THE [12:18] LAST, UH, MANY MONTHS AND THEN [12:20] TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE END [12:21] ABOUT SOME OF THE [12:22] CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL PROGRAMS AND [12:23] INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE [12:24] UNDERWAY AND THAT ARE UPCOMING, [12:26] UH, AND PLANNED OVER THE NEXT [12:27] COUPLE OF MONTHS. [12:29] SO AS WE TRANSITION INTO THE [12:30] NEXT SLIDE HERE, UM, REALLY [12:31] JUST WANT TO GIVE FOLKS UH, AN [12:33] OVERVIEW AND UNDERSTANDING [12:34] OF WHAT THE BOSTON ROAD IN [12:35] ACTION PLAN IS. [12:36] SO AS COUNCILOR BENTON [12:38] MENTIONED A LITTLE OVER TWO AND [12:39] A HALF YEARS AGO UNDER MAYOR [12:40] MICHELLE WU'S LEADERSHIP, WE [12:42] LAUNCHED THE BOSTON ROAD IN [12:43] ACTION PLAN. [12:44] IT IS A CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL [12:46] COORDINATED EFFORT AND DOCTOR [12:48] BOBBY CORRIGAN, UH, ONE OF THE [12:50] WORLD'S LEADING ROAD ONTOLOGIES [12:50] CAME TO THE CITY TO DO AN [12:53] ANALYSIS AROUND SOME OF THE [12:54] CHALLENGES THAT WE WERE FACING, [12:55] UH, AND PUT TOGETHER SOME [12:56] RECOMMENDATIONS WHICH WE FOLLOW [12:57] TO HELP KIND OF INFLUENCE OUR [12:59] PLAN AND ALSO HELP US REDUCE [13:00] RODENT ACTIVITY HERE IN THE [13:02] CITY. [13:02] AND SO SOME OF THESE PRIORITY [13:04] AREAS, AS THE [13:04] COUNCILOR MENTIONED, IS REALLY [13:05] TAKING THIS CITYWIDE [13:06] COORDINATED APPROACH USING [13:09] UTILIZING NEW TECHNOLOGY UM, [13:11] REALLY TRYING TO GET A BETTER [13:12] SENSE USING DATA OF KIND [13:14] OF WHAT ARE THE UM KIND [13:16] OF DIFFERENT INTERVENTIONS THAT [13:17] ARE THE MOST SUCCESSFUL [13:18] EDUCATING RESIDENTS AS [13:20] RESIDENTS PLAY A REALLY BIG [13:21] ROLE IN HELPING US TO REDUCE [13:23] RODENT POPULATION HERE IN THE [13:24] CITY AND FOCUSING ON SOME [13:25] OF THE ROOT DRIVERS OF UH, [13:27] RODENT POPULATION WHICH IS UH [13:29] TRASH COLLECTION. [13:30] AND SO OUR GOAL OF BRAF IS TO [13:33] REDUCE RODENT POPULATIONS AND [13:35] REALLY TRY TO IMPROVE THE [13:36] QUALITY OF LIFE BY IMPROVING [13:37] BASIC CITY SERVICES ACROSS ALL [13:40] NEIGHBORHOODS. [13:40] AND SO JUST QUICKLY [13:42] HIGHLIGHTING UM WHO IS INVOLVED [13:43] IN BRAP BRAP IS A CITYWIDE [13:46] DEPARTMENT WIDE EFFORT. [13:47] WE HAVE OVER 18 DEPARTMENTS [13:49] THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THIS [13:50] INITIATIVE. [13:50] IT'S LED OUT OF THE MAYOR'S [13:52] OFFICE, UH, OUT OF CHIEF DIANE [13:54] IRISH'S CABINET. [13:55] UH AND WE CO-CHAIR IT ALONGSIDE [13:57] MYSELF AND JOHN BUT MANY OF THE [13:58] DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE [13:59] JOINED ALONGSIDE MEJIA TODAY. [14:01] UH, AND THAT YOU SEE LISTED ON [14:02] THE SCREEN AND THIS MAP JUST ON [14:04] THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN [14:05] HIGHLIGHTS MANY OF THE [14:06] DIFFERENT INTERVENTIONS AND [14:08] PILOT PROGRAMS THAT DIFFERENT [14:09] DEPARTMENTS HAVE TAKEN ON, UH, [14:10] AND ARE MOVING FORWARD UH, OVER [14:12] THE LAST SIX MONTHS AND GOING [14:13] FORWARD. [14:14] SO HIGHLIGHTING OUR SEWER TRAPS [14:16] ,OUR SURFACE TRAPS, DIFFERENT [14:17] SENSORS, THE BARREL TOPPERS AND [14:19] NEW ROAD RESISTANT BINS WE HAVE [14:21] IN PARKS TALKING A LITTLE BIT [14:22] AROUND. [14:22] THE TREE PIT WORK THAT WE'VE [14:24] DONE UH, AND HIGHLIGHTING SOME [14:26] OF THE OTHER UH, MITIGATION [14:27] EFFORTS THAT WE DO TO REDUCE [14:29] RODENT POPULATION HERE IN THE [14:30] CITY. [14:31] AND SO WITH THAT I'M GOING TO [14:32] PASS IT OVER TO JOHN TO TALK A [14:34] LITTLE BIT AROUND THE WORK THAT [14:34] HIS TEAM DOES TO ADDRESS SOME [14:36] OF THESE COMPLAINTS. [14:37] THANKS, LUKE. [14:38] UM, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE [14:40] NUMBERS SINCE JANUARY 1ST. [14:42] SO MY TEAM UH WE HAVE 1314 [14:45] LICENSED INSPECTORS. [14:47] UH, BUT ONE OF THOSE IS THE [14:48] CHIEF INSPECTOR AND A DIRECTOR. [14:51] UM, AND UH, WE ARE AN [14:53] ENFORCEMENT UM TEAM. [14:54] OUR MAIN FUNCTION IS THE [14:56] ENFORCEMENT OF THE STATE [14:57] SANITARY CODE. [14:58] UM, AND WE RESPOND TO 311 [15:00] COMPLAINTS. [15:02] SO SINCE JANUARY 1ST WE'VE [15:04] RESPONDED TO 6018 RODENT [15:07] COMPLAINTS. [15:08] UM, WE'VE CONDUCTED 750 RODENT [15:11] TREATMENTS. [15:12] UM, A LOT OF THAT IS, UH, [15:14] BAITING SEWERS OR USING [15:17] CARBON MONOXIDE AND [15:18] CARBON DIOXIDE. [15:19] UM, WE'VE ISSUED 785 [15:22] VIOLATIONS. [15:23] AND SO WHEN WE ISSUE A [15:25] VIOLATION, THEY, UH, SERVED [15:27] EITHER BY PRIORITY MEAL OR UH, [15:31] BY CONSTABLE AND THEN UH, WHEN [15:33] YOU RECEIVE A VIOLATION FROM [15:34] THE DATE OF SERVICE, YOU HAVE [15:35] SEVEN DAYS TO CORRECT THAT [15:37] VIOLATION. [15:37] UM, IF YOU DON'T CORRECT [15:39] VIOLATION IN THAT TIME YOU SENT [15:41] TO AN ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING. [15:43] UM, TO GIVE ANOTHER, UH, [15:45] OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT THE [15:46] VIOLATION IF IT'S NOT CORRECTED [15:48] IN THAT TIME YOU SENT TO, UH, [15:51] HOUSING COURT. [15:52] WE'VE ALSO CONDUCTED 3000 [15:55] DUMPSTER INSPECTIONS. [15:56] THIS IS OUR SITE CLEANLINESS [15:57] PROGRAM. [15:58] SO, UH, EVERY LICENSED, UH, [16:01] DUMPSTER GETS A ANNUAL [16:03] INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE IT'S [16:04] FUNCTIONING AND THAT IT'S [16:06] CONTAINING TRASH PROPERLY. [16:08] UM, 210 CONSTRUCTION SANITATION [16:12] INSPECTIONS. [16:13] THAT IS OUR COMMUNITY [16:14] SANITATION PROGRAM. [16:15] ANY KIND OF PERMIT THAT YOU [16:17] PULL WHETHER IT'S DEMOLITION, [16:19] UM, OR ANY KIND OF CONSTRUCTION [16:21] THAT MAY DISPERSE OR AFFECT [16:24] RODENT POPULATION IF THEY'RE ON [16:26] THE THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE [16:27] REQUIRED TO HAVE PEST CONTROL [16:29] AND AN INSPECTION BY A LICENSED [16:30] PEST CONTROL TECHNICIAN. [16:32] UM, THEN WE INSPECT THE [16:34] PROPERTY TO MAKE SURE THAT [16:35] HAPPENED. [16:36] UM, AND THEN WE'VE CONDUCTED 25 [16:38] COMMUNITY WALKTHROUGHS. [16:39] SO IF AN AREA HAS MULTIPLE UH [16:42] COMPLAINTS AND UM AND THEY UM [16:46] THEY NEED A LITTLE MORE [16:47] ATTENTION. [16:48] WE WORK WITH THE OFFICE [16:49] OF NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES AND [16:50] OUR OWN CONSTITUENT SERVICES TO [16:53] CONDUCT NEIGHBORHOOD [16:54] WALKTHROUGHS TO UH, DO [16:57] EDUCATION, UM AND ENFORCEMENT. [17:01] NEXT SLIDE. [17:04] UH, THIS IS JUST A SLIDE TO [17:07] TALK ABOUT THE COORDINATED [17:08] RESPONSE WITHIN UH ESD. [17:11] UM, SO WE HAVE 14 INSPECTORS [17:14] THAT ARE LICENSED TO DO PEST [17:16] CONTROL AND DEAL UH, PRIMARILY [17:18] WITH RATS. [17:20] BUT WITHIN ESD WE HAVE ALMOST [17:24] 60 INSPECTORS THAT CAN DEAL [17:25] WITH RAT RELATED COMPLAINTS. [17:27] WE HAVE HOUSING INSPECTORS THAT [17:28] DEAL WITH THE INTERIOR [17:29] OF BUILDINGS, UH, AND RENTAL [17:31] UNITS. [17:32] WE ALSO HAVE HEALTH INSPECTORS [17:33] THAT DEAL WITH UM PERMITTED UH, [17:37] FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS. [17:38] AND SO THIS CASE, UH, WAS A [17:42] COMPLICATED CASE A LARGE [17:43] BUILDING IN DOWNTOWN BOSTON [17:46] WHERE, UH, IT HAD 12 STORIES [17:48] AND A LOT OF RODENT PRESSURE. [17:49] THEY HAD COMMERCIAL, UH, CONDOS [17:52] ON THE THE FIRST FLOOR AND, UM [17:55] ,THE SITUATION WAS PRETTY BAD. [17:57] SO WE, UH ALONG WITH THE [17:59] HOUSING DIVISION AND THE HEALTH [18:01] DIVISION. [18:02] UM, WE SHOWED UP AND DID A [18:04] COORDINATED INSPECTION. [18:06] UM, WE THEN SET UP WEEKLY [18:08] MEETINGS WITH THE MANAGEMENT [18:10] TEAM. [18:10] WE MADE A LIST [18:12] OF RECOMMENDATIONS. [18:12] ONE WAS THAT THEY HIRED A [18:16] CONSULTANT TO DEAL WITH THE, UH [18:18] ,SPECIFIC SPECIFIC [18:20] VULNERABILITIES OF THAT [18:21] BUILDING, WHICH THEY DID. [18:23] UM, AND THEY CONDUCTED A [18:27] REPORT. [18:28] WE THEN, UH, MET WITH THEM [18:29] EVERY WEEK TO MAKE SURE THAT [18:31] THE VIOLATIONS WERE BEING [18:33] ADDRESSED BOTH BY HEALTH, [18:35] HOUSING AND ENVIRONMENTAL [18:37] SERVICES. [18:37] UM, AND WALK THEM THROUGH IT [18:40] UNTIL ALL THE CONCERNS WERE [18:43] WERE ADDRESSED AND SO ALL THE [18:45] COMMERCIAL UNITS AND EVERY UH, [18:49] RESIDENTIAL BUILDING EVERY [18:50] RESIDENTIAL UNIT WAS OFFERED AN [18:53] INSPECTION. [18:54] UM AND WE WERE ABLE TO RESOLVE [18:56] THE VIOLATIONS. [18:59] NEXT SLIDE I'LL TURN IT OVER TO [19:01] JEFF TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT [19:03] THE DATA. [19:04] GOOD MORNING. [19:05] UM, I'M JEFF KAPLAN. [19:06] I'M FROM THE CITY'S ANALYTICS [19:07] TEAM. [19:07] UM, AND YEAH, I'M GOING TO TALK [19:09] A. [19:09] LITTLE. [19:09] BIT ABOUT. [19:10] HOW DATA HAS SUPPORTED THE [19:11] PROGRAM THROUGHOUT ITS LIFE. [19:13] UM. [19:14] SO WE'VE PRIMARILY USED DATA [19:15] IN TWO AREAS. [19:17] UM, THE FIRST IS BASICALLY TO [19:19] EVALUATE WHETHER INTERVENTIONS [19:20] HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE. [19:21] AND THEN THE SECOND IS TO [19:23] SUPPORT TEAMS LIKE JOHN'S TEAM [19:25] WITH DATA FOR PROACTIVE [19:26] MITIGATION STRATEGIES. [19:28] SO WE'LL START BY TALKING ABOUT [19:29] SOME OF THE DATA COLLECTION [19:30] TOOLS THAT WE USED. [19:31] AND JUST GENERALLY LIKE THE [19:33] PROCESS OF HOW WE'RE THINKING [19:34] ABOUT UM HOW TO USE DATA TO [19:36] EVALUATE. [19:37] SO GENERALLY OUR PROCESS HAS [19:39] BEEN TO START BY TAKING A [19:40] BASELINE MEASUREMENTS. [19:41] UM SO THAT'S LIKE GETTING THERE [19:43] BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING JUST [19:44] SEEING WHAT'S THE LEVEL [19:45] OF RODENT ACTIVITY IS THEN [19:47] MAKING AN INTERVENTION. [19:48] AND THEN AFTER THE INTERVENTION [19:51] USING CONTROL SITES TO COMPARE [19:53] AGAINST AND SAY OKAY DO WE [19:55] THINK THAT THIS INTERVENTION [19:56] WAS ACTUALLY EFFECTIVE AT [19:57] REDUCING RODENT ACTIVITY? [19:59] UM, SO TWO OF THE PROGRAMS THAT [20:01] WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE [20:02] UM, HAVE BEEN OUR GROUND SENSOR [20:04] PROGRAM. [20:04] SO THOSE ARE THE CHARTS THAT [20:05] YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HERE. [20:07] UM BASICALLY THESE ARE LITTLE [20:08] TINY SENSORS ABOUT THE SIZE [20:09] OF AN AIRPOD CASE THAT GO IN [20:10] BAIT BOXES WITH NONTOXIC BAIT. [20:13] AND EVERY TIME A RODENT COMES [20:14] INTO THAT BOX IT. [20:16] DETECTS THEM. [20:16] AND MEASURES THEIR PRESENCE. [20:18] UM, SO WE USE THAT PROGRAM TO [20:19] TRY TO MEASURE SOME THINGS LIKE [20:20] TRASH HOPPER UM, IMPROVEMENTS [20:23] AROUND PARKS. [20:24] UM, THE OTHER UH, TECHNOLOGY [20:26] WE'RE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HERE [20:28] IS SOME CAMERA SENSOR [20:29] TECHNOLOGY THAT WE WORKED WITH [20:30] . [20:30] UM, EXTRA SENSE WAS A COMPANY [20:32] WE WORKED WITH ON THIS AND THE [20:34] IDEA HERE IS THAT THE CAMERA [20:35] USES AN ALGORITHM TO DETECT THE [20:37] PRESENCE OF RODENTS. [20:38] UM, IN THE CAMERA FOOTAGE. [20:40] AND THEN EACH TIME IT DETECTS [20:41] THAT RODENT IT TAKES A SNIPPET [20:43] OF THAT UM, VIDEO BASICALLY AND [20:46] SAVES THAT VIDEO AND THEN UM, [20:48] RECORDS THAT THERE WAS A RODENT [20:50] PRESENT THERE. [20:50] SO UM, SORT OF LIKE AA2 [20:53] DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE WERE [20:54] USING BASICALLY TO COLLECT THIS [20:55] DATA. [20:56] BUT IN BOTH CASES IT WAS TRYING [20:57] TO SEE YOU KNOW, ARE THE [20:59] INTERVENTIONS THAT WE HAVE [21:00] EFFECTIVE. [21:01] UM NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. [21:02] AND THEN UM IN TERMS [21:04] OF PROACTIVE MITIGATION UM [21:05] WE'VE BEEN WORKING UM WE'VE [21:07] BEEN TRYING A LOT OF DIFFERENT [21:08] THINGS TO WORK WITH JOHNS TEAM [21:10] TO TRY TO GIVE THEM THE TOOLS [21:12] TO HAVE A BETTER AND MORE [21:13] PROACTIVE APPROACH TO [21:14] MITIGATION. [21:15] UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE [21:16] LANDED ON AND WE'RE HOPING TO [21:17] SORT OF LAUNCH AND PILOT WITH [21:19] THIS TEAM THIS FALL IN WINTER. [21:20] UM, WE CALL IT OUR HOTSPOT [21:21] MODEL. [21:22] SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THEY'RE [21:24] KIND OF THREE AREAS THAT THIS [21:25] IS TRYING TO TARGET. [21:26] UM, ONE IS PLACES WITH UNUSUAL [21:29] SPIKES AND VIOLATIONS IN THE [21:30] LAST TWO WEEKS. [21:31] SO SOME AREAS MAY HAVE MORE [21:32] VIOLATIONS IN OTHERS BUT THIS [21:34] IS TRYING TO SAY LIKE HEY YOU [21:35] KNOW THIS IS NOT THE BASELINE [21:36] LEVEL. [21:37] THIS IS A AN ELEVATED LEVEL [21:39] OF VIOLATIONS IN THIS AREA. [21:41] UM ANOTHER IS THROUGH ONLINE [21:42] COMPLAINT CLUSTERS. [21:44] UM AND SPECIFICALLY AREAS WHERE [21:46] THERE HAVEN'T BEEN TOO MANY [21:47] VIOLATIONS OR INSPECTIONS IN [21:48] THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS BUT WE [21:49] ARE SEEING AN UPTICK IN THREE [21:50] AND ONE CASES. [21:51] UM, AND THEN THE LAST IS A [21:53] BLOCK GROUP WITH THE LONGEST [21:54] TIME SINCE ISD HAS DONE AN [21:56] INSPECTION. [21:56] UM, SO THIS JUST KEEPS PLACES [21:58] WITH FEWER THREE AND ONE [21:59] COMPLAINTS AND VIOLATIONS IN [22:00] MIND AS WELL. [22:01] AND ALL OF THIS IS JUST BEING A [22:02] WAY TO SORT OF LIKE MAKES THE [22:04] DATA LEGIBLE FOR JOHNS TEAM [22:06] EASIER FOR THEM TO ACCESS AND [22:07] USE IN THEIR DAY TO DAY WORK. [22:10] UH NEXT SLIDE. [22:11] AND THEN LASTLY UM SORT OF THE [22:14] NEXT PHASE OF THIS UM WE'RE [22:15] DOING A ANOTHER PILOT UM IN [22:19] PARTNERSHIP WITH A RESEARCH [22:20] INSTITUTE CALLED BASIS AI. [22:22] UM AND THEY ARE A GROUP [22:23] OF RODENT BEHAVIORAL [22:25] RESEARCHERS. [22:25] UM AND SO THEY'RE USING AUDIO [22:27] TO DETECT RODENT PRESENCE AND [22:29] SORT OF USE IT AS LIKE AN [22:31] ULTRASONIC LEVEL. [22:31] SO OUTSIDE OF THE RANGE [22:32] OF HUMAN HEARING. [22:33] UM, AND ESSENTIALLY WE'VE BEEN [22:35] WORKING WITH THEM SO FAR ON SIX [22:37] SITES. [22:37] UM, WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF REALLY [22:39] GOOD PRELIMINARY SUCCESS ON [22:40] THIS OF THEM USING THIS [22:42] TECHNOLOGY TO MEASURE RODENT [22:43] ACTIVITY IN SORT OF LIKE A MORE [22:45] RELIABLE WAY THAN WHAT WE'VE [22:46] BEEN ABLE TO SO FAR. [22:47] AND THEY'RE REALLY GREAT TEAM [22:49] WITH A LOT OF REALLY USEFUL [22:51] EXPERIENCE FOR THIS. [22:52] SO WE'RE EXCITED TO PARTNER [22:53] WITH THEM MOVING FORWARD. [22:57] AND I'LL PASS BACK TO LUKE I. [22:58] THINK I CAN TAKE THIS. [23:02] UM SO THE NEXT IS UH [23:05] CONTAINERIZATION OF OF TRASH. [23:06] SO UH WITH PREP WE UH LOOKING [23:10] TO CONTAINERIZE TRASH WHERE WE [23:11] CAN. [23:12] UM, WE'RE FOCUSED ON IMPROVING [23:14] STREET BARRELS AND PARK LITTER [23:17] BASKETS. [23:17] UM, AND SO OUR NEW RODENT [23:20] RESISTANT BARRELS WE STARTED IN [23:22] THE BOSTON COMMONS UM, WITH THE [23:26] UM WITH THE NEW VICTOR STANLEY [23:27] WATER RESISTANT BARREL. [23:29] WE ALSO INSTALLED, UH, THE THE [23:32] VICTOR STANLEY ON SOME OF THE [23:33] STREET IN THE NORTH END. [23:35] UM, RECENTLY WE'VE REPLACED ALL [23:37] THE STREET BARRELS IN CHINATOWN [23:40] IN MATTAPAN SQUARE. [23:41] UM, AND EVERY NEW PARK WILL [23:45] HAVE THESE NEW RODENT RESISTANT [23:47] BARRELS. [23:48] UM, IN THEIR IN THEIR SPECS THE [23:51] UH, BARREL TYPE IS IS A LESS [23:54] EXPENSIVE UM OPTION THAT WE'RE [23:58] TRYING WHERE WE CAN COVER UH, [24:01] 55 GALLON DRUMS TO, UH, FULLY [24:04] ENCLOSED THE, UM. [24:06] ENCLOSED THE TRASH. [24:07] UM, AS JEFF SAID, WE'RE. [24:09] ALSO TRYING TO MEASURE THE [24:11] IMPACT OF THAT ON THE ROAD. [24:13] UM, THE RODENT PRESSURE AROUND [24:17] THE THE BARRELS. [24:21] NEXT SLIDE. [24:29] SO, UH, WE ALSO WANT TO THINK [24:31] ABOUT RATS. [24:32] UH, WHEN WE'RE DESIGNING PARKS [24:34] AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT [24:36] BUILDING, UM, THIS SLIDE UH, [24:39] BELOW THE PITCHES, UH, OF A [24:41] PARK IN THE NORTH END WILLOW [24:43] PARK. [24:44] SO THE PARK WAS DESIGNED AND [24:47] HAD SOME ISSUES, UM, WHERE [24:50] THERE WAS SOME INITIAL RODENT [24:54] RESISTANCE, UH, THOUGHT INTO [24:56] THE DESIGN. [24:56] BUT RATS ARE REALLY CLEVER AND [24:59] ,UH, FOUND SOME SOME REAL [25:01] VULNERABILITIES WITH THIS. [25:02] AND SO, UM, WE HAD TO GO BACK [25:05] AND THINK ABOUT THE DESIGN AND [25:06] HOW WE COULD KEEP RATS OUT. [25:09] AND SO WE WENT BACK REMOVED THE [25:11] DECKING. [25:12] UH, THERE WAS A VOID BETWEEN [25:13] THE DECKING IN THE GROUND WHERE [25:14] RATS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF AND SO [25:17] AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, ON SOME [25:19] OF THE PICTURES IN THE BELOW, [25:21] UM, THE TREE PITS, UH, USE THIS [25:23] UH, RESIN UH, PRODUCT WHERE [25:26] WATER CAN GET THROUGH IT [25:27] DOESN'T AFFECT THE UH, TREES. [25:29] UM, WE ALSO FILLED THE VOID [25:31] BENEATH THE DECKING. [25:33] UM, MOVING FORWARD, WE, UH I [25:36] MYSELF MEET WITH THE PARKS TEAM [25:38] AS THEY DESIGN PARKS. [25:39] THERE WAS ONE RECENTLY IN EAST [25:42] BOSTON WHERE WE LOOK AT THE [25:43] DESIGN AND UH, IF WE THINK [25:45] ABOUT RATS IN IN THE DESIGN [25:49] PHASE IT REALLY DOESN'T ADD UM [25:52] ANY COST UM OR SIGNIFICANT COST [25:54] TO THE TO THE PRODUCT. [25:56] SO UM WE ALSO UH, WORK WITH [25:59] PUBLIC FACILITIES TO ADD RODENT [26:02] UM RECOMMENDATIONS RODENT [26:03] RESISTANCE IN THE DESIGN [26:05] STANDARDS. [26:06] UH, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS THAT [26:08] UM ONE OF THE FIRST BUILDINGS [26:09] THAT THAT RECEIVED THOSE UM [26:12] CHANGES WAS THE LIBRARY IN [26:14] EGGLESTON SQUARE. [26:16] UM, AND MOVING FORWARD WE'RE [26:17] GOING TO WORK ON A DOCUMENT FOR [26:20] UM FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES THE [26:22] PARKS AND SEWER DESIGN. [26:24] UM, TO MAKE SURE THAT RODENT [26:27] RESISTANCE IS BUILT INTO THE [26:29] DESIGN STANDARDS. [26:31] OKAY. [26:31] I'M GOING TO TURN IT. [26:32] OVER TO JOSH TO, UH, TALK [26:34] ABOUT HOUSING. [26:35] GOOD MORNING COUNCIL. [26:36] THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY [26:38] TO SPEAK, UH, ABOUT THE [26:41] BUTCHER'S ENTHUSIASTIC [26:42] PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BRAP UH, [26:44] ALONG WITH OTHER 20 PLUS SISTER [26:47] AGENCIES. [26:48] UH, THE BOSTON HOUSING [26:49] AUTHORITY, FOR ITS PART, HAS [26:52] DEDICATED A RODENT REDUCTION [26:53] TEAM, UH. [26:54] FULL TIME TO THE TREATMENT OF, [26:56] UH, RATS AND OTHER ROAD AND [26:58] PESTS. [26:59] UH, THAT'S NOW FOUR FULL TIME [27:01] STAFF WHO WORK 40 HOURS A WEEK. [27:04] UM, TAKING THE FIGHT TO THE [27:05] RATS HOUSE, SO TO SPEAK. [27:07] UH, IDENTIFYING BURROWS AND, [27:11] UM, FULL TIME TREATMENT [27:13] BASICALLY 365 DAYS A YEAR. [27:15] THIS IS, UM, REALLY ENHANCED [27:18] SERVICE DELIVERY. [27:19] MOST IMPORTANTLY, UH, [27:20] PREVIOUSLY WE WOULD RELY ON OUR [27:23] IPM, UM, PEST CONTROL PARTNERS [27:25] TO TO SORT OF HANDLE THE JOB [27:27] FOR US. [27:28] AND NOW IF WE GET A RESIDENT [27:30] COMPLAIN TO 311 COMPLAINT OR [27:34] ANY FORM REALLY A COMPLAINT [27:35] COMES IN ABOUT BURROWS OR RAT [27:37] SIGHTINGS. [27:38] UH, WE HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM [27:40] THAT GOES OUT THERE AND AGAIN [27:41] TAKES THE FIGHT TO THEM. [27:43] UH, ADMINISTRATIVE BLOCK UH, IN [27:46] THE LAST BARGAINING CONTRACT [27:47] WITH THE LABORERS OFFERED AN [27:50] ENHANCED SALARY UM, FOR ANYONE [27:52] WHO GETS THEIR PESTICIDE [27:54] LICENSE. [27:54] UH, AND THAT'S WHETHER OR NOT [27:56] YOU USE THE LICENSE. [27:57] SO THE BAR IS ENCOURAGING ALL [27:59] OF ITS STAFF TO BECOME EDUCATED [28:01] AND EXPERIENCED IN, UM IN ROAD [28:04] REDUCTION AS WELL. [28:05] AND UM, YOU KNOW, ON NEXT SLIDE [28:08] I THINK AND UH, SOME UH SOME [28:12] OF THE SORT OF UH MODERN THINGS [28:15] WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AND I KNOW [28:16] THAT UM THAT THROUGH THE UH. [28:19] WHAT WAS IT THE UH, [28:22] PARTICIPATORY BUDGET IN YOUR [28:23] DISTRICT COUNCIL OF BREED AND [28:25] WE ARE, UM, WORKING ON A VERY [28:28] NEW PILOT PROGRAM AT OUR [28:30] COMMONWEALTH SITE. [28:31] THAT'S REALLY A HOLISTIC [28:33] APPROACH TO IT. [28:34] UH, INVOLVES CONTAINERIZATION, [28:37] EDUCATION OF RESIDENTS WHO ARE [28:38] DEFINITELY PARTNERS IN THIS [28:39] FIGHT AND, UH, SORT OF MORE [28:42] PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT. [28:44] UM. [28:45] WITH RESIDENTS BECAUSE WE WE [28:47] CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND FROM OUR [28:49] PARTICIPATION IN THE RAP THAT [28:51] WE CAN'T EXTERMINATE THIS [28:52] PROBLEM AWAY AND THAT WE HAVE [28:54] TO WE HAVE TO TAKE A SORT OF A [28:57] AGAIN, A HOLISTIC APPROACH [28:58] AROUND THAT AND THAT'S WHAT [28:59] WE'RE DOING. [29:00] UM, WE STARTED WITH NEW [29:02] CONTAINERS THAT ARE RODENT [29:06] PROOF TO THE EXTENT THAT THAT'S [29:08] POSSIBLE. [29:10] UM, COMMERCIAL LEVEL HAULING TO [29:12] BASICALLY KEEP THE PADS AND [29:14] AREAS CLEAN UM IN BETWEEN [29:17] PICKUPS AND ALSO WHERE WE'RE [29:20] ROLLING OUT UH, COMPOST PROGRAM [29:21] TO TRY AND YOU KNOW, THERE'S A [29:24] NUMBER OF REASONS WHY THERE IS [29:25] INTEREST IN THAT. [29:26] BUT AS IT RELATES TO RODENTS, [29:28] IF YOU TAKE THE FOOD AWAY FROM [29:29] THE WASTE STREAM, OF COURSE [29:31] THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A DRAMATIC [29:32] IMPACT. [29:33] THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO [29:34] SHARE. [29:35] I'LL TURN. [29:35] IT BACK TO LUKE. [29:36] THANK YOU. [29:37] COUNCIL WE JUST. [29:37] HAVE A COUPLE MORE SLIDES IF [29:38] THAT'S OKAY. [29:39] WE'LL BE VERY QUICK. [29:40] I PROMISE. [29:41] UM, SO JUST WANT TO. [29:42] HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE. [29:43] BIT OF THE WORK OF BOSTON [29:44] WATER AND SEWER BECAUSE THEY'RE [29:45] ANOTHER CRITICAL PARTNER UM, TO [29:46] US IN THIS WORK. [29:47] AND SO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT [29:48] BOSTON WATER AND SEWER HAS BEEN [29:49] PILOTING IS, UM, REALLY BETTER [29:52] UNDERSTANDING WHAT SUBSURFACE [29:53] RODENT POPULATION IS. [29:54] AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH [29:56] THEM ON DEPLOYING UH, SEWER [29:57] TRAPS AS WELL AS SEWER SENSORS [29:59] ACROSS VARIOUS RAT VULNERABLE [30:01] SEWERS, UH, THROUGHOUT THE [30:03] CITY. [30:04] AND SO A RAT VULNERABLE SEWER [30:05] IS A SEWER THAT IS 14FT IN [30:07] DIAMETER, LOW FLOW AND MADE [30:09] OF BRICK. [30:10] UH, AND SO WE HAVE SOME [30:11] OF THESE SEWER SYSTEMS IN KEY [30:12] AREAS SUCH AS THE NORTH END [30:14] CHINATOWN, SOUTH BOSTON AREAS [30:16] OF THE CITY WITH OLDER [30:17] INFRASTRUCTURE. [30:18] AND SO WE'VE DEPLOYED UH OVER [30:20] 25 SEWER TRAPS IN THE NORTH END [30:21] AND IN THE BACK BAY WHICH [30:23] HELPED US NOT ONLY MITIGATE [30:24] RATS BUT ALSO COLLECT VALUABLE [30:26] DATA POINTS AROUND WHERE WE'RE [30:27] SEEING THESE HIGH POPULATIONS [30:29] TO HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND [30:30] SOME OF THE DIFFERENT FINDINGS [30:31] AROUND THOSE RAT VULNERABLE [30:33] SEWERS AND HOW POPULATIONS [30:34] THRIVE THERE. [30:35] AND SO IN THE COMING WEEKS, UH, [30:36] IN ADDITION TO SOME OF THE [30:37] SEWER TRAPS AND SENSORS WE [30:39] ALREADY HAVE DEPLOYED, WE'RE [30:40] WORKING WITH BASIS AI, AS JEFF [30:42] MENTIONED TO DEPLOY SOME [30:43] OF THEIR AUDIO DEVICES IN KEY [30:45] AREAS SUCH AS THE NORTH END AND [30:47] IN SOUTH BOSTON WHERE WE HAVE [30:49] SOME OF THESE RAT VULNERABLE [30:50] SEWERS TO BETTER UNDERSTAND [30:51] THAT RODENT POPULATION AND HELP [30:53] US ALSO UNDERSTAND HOW RODENT [30:55] POPULATION CHANGES WITH THE [30:57] VARYING SEASONS. [30:57] RIGHT. [30:58] SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT IN THE [30:59] COLDER MONTHS WE THINK RODENT [31:01] POPULATIONS GO SUBSURFACE WHERE [31:02] IT'S A LITTLE BIT WARMER. [31:03] AND SO WE'RE GOING TO USE THIS [31:04] DEVICE TO HELP US KIND [31:05] OF BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT [31:06] HYPOTHESES THAT WE HAVE. [31:07] THANK YOU. [31:08] AND UM FINALLY JUST WANT TO [31:09] HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE WORK THAT [31:11] COUNCILOR BREADON MENTIONED [31:11] AROUND THE NATIONAL UH, URBAN [31:13] RAT SUMMIT. [31:13] SO WE WERE VERY GRATEFUL THAT [31:15] UH, MANY OF THE WORLD LEADERS, [31:17] UH, IN THIS INDUSTRY LOOK TO [31:18] BOSTON, UM, TO HOST THE [31:20] NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT BECAUSE [31:21] OF THE GREAT WORK THAT WE'VE [31:22] BEEN DOING HERE. [31:22] AND SO WHAT HAPPENED AT THE [31:24] NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT WAS UH, ON [31:26] THE 23RD AND 24TH OF SEPTEMBER [31:28] WE HAD OVER 100 DIFFERENT UH, [31:30] ACADEMICS CITIES, PEST [31:32] PROFESSIONALS COME TO BOSTON [31:33] AND REALLY SHARE SOME OF THE [31:35] DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND [31:36] SOLUTIONS THAT ARE NEW AND UP [31:37] AND COMING. [31:38] UH, AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY [31:39] FOR US TO SHARE WHAT WE'VE BEEN [31:40] DOING AND ALSO LEARN AS WE [31:41] CONTINUE TO MOVE INTO THE NEXT [31:43] PHASE. [31:43] SO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SLIDE [31:45] AND I WON'T READ ALL OF THESE [31:46] JUST TO SOME OF THE KEY [31:47] TAKEAWAYS OF THE THINGS THAT WE [31:48] WANT TO FOCUS ON FROM THE [31:50] THINGS THAT WE HEARD AT THE [31:51] SUMMIT. [31:52] AND JUST FINALLY THE LAST SLIDE [31:53] HERE IS UM, LETTING FOLKS KNOW [31:55] THAT, YOU KNOW, EDUCATION AND [31:57] MAKING SURE THAT RESIDENTS KNOW [31:58] HOW THEY CAN HELP US PREVENT [31:59] RODENT ACTIVITY IS REALLY [32:00] IMPORTANT. [32:01] SO WE HAVE ALL OF THESE [32:02] DIFFERENT STRATEGIES AND [32:03] SOLUTIONS ON OUR WEBSITE [32:06] BOSTON.GOV/RATS. [32:06] WE ALSO HAVE AN EMAIL WHICH IS [32:09] RATS@BOSTON.GOV. [32:09] WE ENCOURAGE RESIDENTS TO REACH [32:10] OUT TO US. [32:11] WE'RE HAPPY TO MEET WITH THEM [32:13] PROVIDE THEM WITH SOME [32:14] SOLUTIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS [32:15] SLIDE FOR HOW THEY CAN PREVENT [32:16] RODENT ACTIVITY IN THEIR THEIR [32:18] YARD OR IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. [32:20] UH AND IF YOU SEE RODENT [32:21] ACTIVITY WE JUST ENCOURAGE [32:22] RESIDENTS TO SUBMIT THIS TO [32:24] 311. [32:24] JOHN AND HIS TEAM HAVE A [32:25] RESPONSE RATE OF 24 TO 48 [32:27] HOURS. [32:27] AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE [32:28] THAT WE'RE RESPONSIVE EDUCATING [32:30] RESIDENTS AND REALLY TRYING TO [32:31] ACHIEVE THE ULTIMATE GOAL [32:31] OF BRAP, WHICH IS TO DRIVE DOWN [32:33] RODENT POPULATION AND IMPROVE. [32:34] THE. [32:35] QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL [32:36] RESIDENTS. [32:37] THANK YOU. [32:37] THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. [32:38] AND THANK YOU. [32:40] YOU REQUESTED 12 MINUTES [32:42] INITIALLY I LET YOU GO OVER [32:45] SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER. [32:46] UM. [32:49] I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO YOU [32:52] BUT I'M THE CHAIR OF THE [32:53] COMMITTEE. [32:54] WE APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME. [32:57] I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GO TO [32:59] PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON ZOOM. [33:03] LET ME START WITH AND I DON'T [33:05] LIKE TO CUT PEOPLE OFF. [33:08] UH, WE'RE ALSO UM, JOINED BY [33:11] CITY COUNCILOR DURKAN. [33:13] WE'RE JOINED BY CITY [33:15] COUNCILOR MURPHY. [33:16] UM. [33:20] OH, I WANT TO GO TO BONNIE AND [33:24] GIVE BONNIE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, [33:27] UM, PROVIDE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. [33:33] UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE. [33:35] EACH PERSON THAT TESTIFIES TWO [33:37] MINUTES, BUT I DON'T LIKE TO [33:38] CUT PEOPLE OFF WHETHER IT'S THE [33:42] PUBLIC OR MY CITY [33:43] COUNCIL COLLEAGUES OR THE [33:45] ADMINISTRATION. [33:46] UM, SO I'LL GIVE YOU A GRACE [33:47] PERIOD BUT UM, PLEASE TRY TO [33:50] RESPECT THE TWO MINUTES. [33:51] UH, BONNIE YOU'RE UP PLEASE. [33:53] YES. [33:54] HELLO? [33:54] CAN YOU HEAR ME? [33:55] YES WE CAN. [33:56] BONNIE. [33:56] WELCOME. [33:56] YES. [33:57] YEAH. [33:58] THANK YOU. [33:58] UM, COUNCILOR I MET TWO TWO [33:59] NIGHTS AGO. [34:00] UM, ON THE WALK ON COME OUT [34:02] OF UM. [34:02] SO I'M BONNIE WEISS, UM, [34:04] PROPERTY OWNER, UH, AT 58 [34:07] COMMONWEALTH AVENUE AND MY [34:08] HUSBAND AND I OWNED THE [34:09] BROWNSTONE. [34:10] UM, SO AFTER 15 YEARS OF LIVING [34:14] HERE, MY MY HUMBLE OBSERVATIONS [34:15] ARE THAT AS LONG AS THE TRASH [34:19] COLLECTION REMAINS THE SAME, WE [34:21] WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE RATS. [34:22] UM, WE ARE REQUIRED TO PUT ALL [34:25] OF OUR GARBAGE OUT IN PLASTIC [34:27] BAGS. [34:28] THE, UM THE BAGS GET RIPPED. [34:30] THEY FALL INTO THE, UH ONTO THE [34:33] DRIVE AREA. [34:33] CARS RUN OVER THEM. [34:35] THERE'S SHARDS OF GLASS. [34:37] UM, AND IT HAPPENS EVERY WEEK. [34:40] UM, SO ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE [34:41] THAT HAPPENS ON THE OPPOSITE [34:43] SIDE WHICH IS THE REAR OF THE [34:45] NEW OF NEWBURY STREET. [34:47] UM, BETWEEN BERKELEY AND [34:49] CLARENDON STREETS. [34:49] FLOOD OF UM FOOD UM COMMERCIAL [34:53] IT'S UM BUSINESSES THERE. [34:56] PLUS THERE'S THE CHURCH OF THE [34:57] COVENANT WE'RE AT DIRECTLY [34:59] BEHIND IT AND WE HAVE ROSIE'S [35:00] PLACE THE VEST, THE UM [35:05] CONTAINERS THAT THEY USE ARE [35:06] OFTEN OVERFLOWING. [35:08] ONE ACTUALLY FELL INTO THE ROAD [35:09] THE OTHER DAY AS I WAS DRIVING [35:11] AND A LOT OF FOOD SPILLED OUT [35:13] AND I SAID TO THE PERSON FROM [35:15] THE UM AND THE RESTAURANT I [35:17] SAID, ARE YOU GOING TO PICK [35:18] THIS UP? [35:19] I NEED TO DRIVE BY. [35:20] AND HE HE KIND OF LAUGHED AND [35:21] THEN HE PUSHED IT BACK INTO [35:23] PLACE. [35:23] UM, SO IT'S JUST IT'S JUST A [35:26] CHRONIC PROBLEM BECAUSE AS LONG [35:28] AS UM THE PLASTIC BAGS ARE OUT [35:30] THERE AND THE RATS CAN CHEW [35:32] INTO THEM. [35:33] WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS WHO LOOK [35:35] FOR CANS AND THEY SOMETIMES [35:36] DISRUPT THE BAGS AND DON'T PUT [35:38] THEM BACK WHERE THEY NEED TO [35:39] BE. [35:39] THERE'S WHEN THERE'S VEHICLES [35:41] IT'S JUST A CHRONIC PROBLEM. [35:43] I SAY RODENTS DURING THE DAY [35:46] AND IT'S VERY TROUBLING. [35:48] SO THAT'S MY THAT'S MY UH [35:50] TESTIMONY. [35:52] BONNIE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR [35:53] TESTIMONY. [35:54] VERY HELPFUL. [35:54] WE APPRECIATE IT. [35:56] COULD I GO. [35:57] TO UM THE INITIAL DE THAT IS [36:02] TESTIFYING? [36:07] DE. [36:10] OKAY. [36:12] DE EUROPE. [36:13] GOOD MORNING SIR. [36:15] CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? [36:16] YES WE CAN. [36:17] OKAY. [36:18] UH, ONE. [36:19] THING THAT I'VE HEARD [36:20] THROUGHOUT THIS TESTIMONY IS [36:21] THAT IT'S. [36:21] TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY OWNERS, [36:22] BUT YET THE CITY, UM, HAS [36:24] PROPERTY THAT IS IT MAINTAINED. [36:26] UH, EITHER DIRECTLY THAT THEY [36:28] OWN OR UM, THINGS THAT THEY [36:31] SHOULD BE ABLE TO CONTACT WHO [36:32] OWNS THEM. [36:33] UH. [36:34] ONE MAJOR ISSUE IS BAYSWATER [36:35] RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE CITY [36:37] OF BOSTON SENIOR CENTER. [36:38] UM, FOUR MONTHS AGO I OPENED UP [36:40] TWO CASES. [36:40] THE FIRST ONE WAS CLOSED OUT [36:41] AND THE TRANSITIONS. [36:42] THE SECOND ONE, WHICH I OPENED [36:44] A WEEK LATER WAS NOTED AS [36:46] DUPLICATES DUPLICATED. [36:47] WHEN I OPENED UP CASES TWO [36:49] WEEKS TWO MONTHS AGO AGAIN FOR [36:51] THE SAME LOCATION, THE FIRST [36:52] ONE WAS LABELED AS. [36:54] TRANSITIONED AND NOT CITY [36:55] PROPERTY. [36:56] THE SECOND ONE WAS THEN [36:58] TRANSITIONED AND CALLED JOE [36:59] RIDGE AREA. [37:00] GEORGE ARAUJO IS A PRIVATE [37:02] INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNS A FUNERAL [37:03] HOME AROUND THE CORNER. [37:04] THIS IS THE HEROES SQUARE UH AT [37:08] BAYSWATER AND SARATOGA WHICH [37:09] WAS LEFT ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING [37:12] RIGHT ACROSS FROM THE SENIOR [37:13] CENTER. [37:14] SO UM, OUR CITY COUNCILOR WAS [37:16] THERE SO ALL THE TRASH PILED [37:18] PUBLIC WORKS IS DRIVING BY IT. [37:20] YOU KNOW, IT'S A CITY PROPERTY [37:21] AND THERE'S THIS TRASH PILE [37:23] ACROSS THE STREET AND IT SAT [37:24] THERE FOR A MONTH. [37:27] UM, ALSO AT THE SAME TIME ON [37:29] THE END OF UH, BAYSWATER AND A [37:32] BOY ON AUGUST 4TH THERE WAS A [37:33] BODY FOUND IN THE WATER. [37:35] UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE [37:36] NEWS PHOTOS YOU WILL SEE THE [37:38] TRASH PILE THERE ON AUGUST 5TH. [37:40] COUNCILOR COLLETTA UH, ZAPATA [37:42] DID HER ROAD WALK THROUGH [37:43] PHOTOGRAPHS THAT SAME PILE TWO [37:46] WEEKS LATER I OPENED UP A CASE. [37:48] IT SAID CLOSED WHILE IT WAS [37:50] STILL THERE. [37:52] I OPENED UP ANOTHER CASE AND [37:54] THAT CASE IS STILL OPEN AFTER [37:57] TWO MONTHS. [37:58] I SAT THERE AND TOOK IT UPON [38:00] MYSELF AND CALLED MASSPORT AND [38:01] GOT IT REMOVED WITHIN 45 [38:03] MINUTES. [38:03] BUT TWO WEEKS AFTER OUR [38:05] COUNCILOR DID A WALK THROUGH [38:06] PHOTOGRAPH THAT TRASH PILE IT [38:08] WAS STILL SITTING AND IN [38:10] GENERAL BAYSWATER IS A PLACE [38:12] WHERE PEOPLE COME, DRINK, THROW [38:15] THEIR BOTTLES, THEY GET FAST [38:17] FOOD, THROW THEIR TRASH IN THE [38:19] BUSHES AND IT SITS THERE. [38:20] THERE WAS RECENTLY A CLEAN UP [38:22] BY BANK OF AMERICA AND I THINK [38:23] THAT'S FOR AT LEAST TWO DOZEN [38:24] TRASH BAGS. [38:26] SO NOT ONLY ARE THESE PEOPLE A [38:28] OPEN CONTAINER BE PROBABLY [38:30] DRINKING AND DRIVING, BUT [38:31] THEY'RE LITTERING AND CAUSING [38:32] THE RODENT PROBLEM. [38:33] AND THE CITY YOU KNOW CITY [38:35] DEPARTMENTS ARE SAYING [38:37] TRANSITION NOT OUR PROBLEM. [38:38] YOU KNOW POINT THE OTHER WAY [38:40] BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE [38:41] THEN THE CITY OF SPENDING MONEY [38:44] ON RODENT CONTROL INSTEAD [38:44] OF ACTUALLY DEALING WITH THE [38:45] ISSUES. [38:49] UM D WHY DON'T YOU FINISH UP [38:50] YOUR COMMENT PLEASE? [38:52] UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS [38:54] IT'S YOU KNOW, THIS AREA IS A [38:56] CONSTANT PROBLEM AND OUR CITY [38:57] COUNCILOR CAME OUT HERE AND [38:58] SAID SHE WAS GOING TO DO [38:59] SOMETHING ABOUT IT. [39:00] YET NOTHING IS BEING DONE AND [39:02] THIS IS ALL JUST TRASH RIGHT [39:04] OUT IN THE OPEN AND AT THE SAME [39:06] TIME I'VE SEEN IS THE TICKET [39:07] THE DUMPSTER ACROSS THE STREET [39:09] FROM THAT TRASH PILE MULTIPLE [39:11] TIMES WITHOUT ACTUALLY PICKING [39:12] UP THAT TRASH PILE. [39:13] AND ACTUALLY ONE OF THE THINGS [39:14] I'D LIKE TO ADD TO IS THAT ONE [39:16] TIME WE HAD A DEAD RODENT [39:17] DEAD UH, RABBIT. [39:18] SO FROM DPW PICKED IT UP I [39:20] ASKED HIM I SAID WHO'S IN [39:21] CHARGE OF THE SQUARE UP THERE? [39:22] HE'S LIKE, OH I SAW IT RIGHT AT [39:24] THE END. [39:24] HE'S LIKE THAT'S PARK IS PARKS [39:25] AND REC. [39:26] I'LL GO TAKE CARE OF IT. [39:27] HE DRIVES BACK AROUND FIVE [39:29] MINUTES LATER AND WAS. [39:30] TOLD TOLD US THAT HIS [39:31] SUPERVISOR AT DPW TOLD HIM NOT [39:34] TO PICK UP THAT TRASH EVEN [39:36] THOUGH IT HAD BEEN THERE FOR [39:37] WEEKS. [39:38] I UNDERSTAND. [39:39] UH. [39:39] THANK YOU'D. [39:40] THANK YOU. [39:43] I'M GOING TO. [39:44] CONTINUE WITH, UM. [39:47] I'M GOING TO ASK IF WE CAN [39:50] BRING IN, UM, LYDIA LOWE UM, ON [39:53] ON ZOOM. [39:54] LYDIA, YOU'RE UP. [40:04] GOOD MORNING. [40:04] LYDIA. [40:09] YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE, BUT GOOD [40:11] MORNING LYDIA. [40:13] SORRY. [40:14] YEAH. [40:15] WE CAN HEAR YOU. [40:15] GO AHEAD. [40:16] LYDIA. [40:16] OKAY. [40:17] GOOD MORNING AND THANK YOU [40:18] FOR HOLDING THIS HEARING. [40:19] THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE [40:21] . [40:22] UM, I'M LYDIA LOWE FROM THE, [40:25] UM, CHINATOWN COMMUNITY LAND [40:27] TRUST AND, UM, THE, UH THE [40:32] RODENT PROBLEM IS VERY SERIOUS [40:34] IN CHINATOWN. [40:35] UM, I PERSONALLY WAS PART [40:38] OF THAT METROPOLITAN BUILDING, [40:41] UM, INFESTATION, YOU KNOW, THAT [40:43] REALLY WENT ON FOR MORE THAN A [40:46] YEAR. [40:47] I WAS VERY, YOU KNOW, UH, [40:49] REALLY UNHEALTHY CONDITIONS AND [40:51] I'M GLAD TO HEAR ABOUT THE USE [40:53] OF, UM, NEW TECHNOLOGY AND, YOU [40:57] KNOW, OTHER GOOD PRACTICES TO [40:58] TACKLE THE PROBLEM. [40:59] I JUST WANTED TO RAISE THAT, [41:01] UM, THE RAT PROBLEM. [41:03] IT'S VERY CLOSELY LINKED TO [41:05] OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS. [41:07] AND YOU KNOW, ONE ISSUE THAT'S [41:10] I THINK IMPORTANT IN CHINATOWN [41:13] IS THAT WE HAVE VERY OLD [41:15] INFRASTRUCTURE THAT DATES BACK [41:17] TO THE EARLY 1800S. [41:19] UM, SO THERE WERE LIKE YOU [41:20] KNOW, THERE WERE STREETS AND [41:21] ALLEYS THAT ARE PRIVATE WAYS [41:23] THAT HAVE NOT HISTORICALLY BEEN [41:25] SERVED BY THE CITY AND UM, YOU [41:29] KNOW AND THAT INCLUDES SOME [41:31] OF THESE YOU KNOW, THERE IS [41:32] SOME PRIVATE WAYS THAT ARE SO [41:34] SMALL THAT UM, UH THE YOU KNOW, [41:38] THERE'S NO TRASH PICK UP ON THE [41:41] STREET BECAUSE YOU CAN'T DRIVE [41:43] A TRUCK THE TRUCK DOWN THERE. [41:45] UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, TRASH [41:47] WOULD HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO THE [41:48] NEXT STREET OVER, YOU KNOW, AND [41:50] WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT, YOU [41:52] KNOW, TO, UM, GET PEOPLE TO DO [41:55] AND THEN WE HAVE SMALL, UM, [41:58] THESE SMALL OLDER HOMES, UH, [42:01] THE ROW HOUSES WHERE THERE [42:03] ISN'T REALLY A COMMON SPACE TO [42:05] STORE A TRASH CONTAINER. [42:07] SO WE WHAT WE END UP IS A LOT [42:09] OF TENANTS IN CHINATOWN LEAVING [42:11] TRASH BAGS DIRECTLY ON THE [42:13] STREET THAT ARE NOT [42:14] CONTAINERIZED AND, UM, YOU [42:17] KNOW, EDUCATION IS REALLY [42:19] IMPORTANT BUT ALSO, UM, THERE'S [42:22] A LIMIT TO WHAT EDUCATION IS [42:24] GOING TO ACCOMPLISH BECAUSE IF [42:25] THE TENANTS DON'T HAVE A TRASH [42:27] BIN UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NO [42:29] PLACE IN THEIR BUILDING, YOU [42:31] KNOW, FOR THEIR LANDLORD TO [42:33] PROVIDE IT, THEN THEY'RE GOING [42:34] TO JUST KEEP LEAVING IT ON THE [42:35] STREET. [42:36] SO I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THESE [42:37] ISSUES NEED LIKE BIGGER [42:40] SOLUTIONS LIKE THE TRASH, YOU [42:41] KNOW, THINKING ABOUT TRASH [42:43] CONTAINERIZATION. [42:44] YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE CITY NEEDS [42:46] TO PLAY A ROLE IN PARTICULAR [42:48] NEIGHBORHOODS OR SPOTS LIKE [42:50] CHINATOWN WHERE YOU KNOW YOU [42:51] HAVE TRASH CONTAINERS THAT [42:53] COULD BE OWNED BY THE CITY THAT [42:55] ARE AVAILABLE FOR RESIDENTS TO [42:57] PUT. [42:58] THEIR TRASH INTO. [42:59] UM, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE [43:01] CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM. [43:03] OUR PROPERTY ONE OF OUR [43:04] PROPERTIES IS SORT OF LIKE. [43:06] THE. [43:06] TRASH DUMPING AREA. [43:07] UM, FOR OUR PART OF THE [43:09] NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU KNOW, THE [43:12] OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO [43:13] RAISE IS THAT I THINK WE ALSO [43:14] NEED TO CRACK DOWN ON ABANDONED [43:17] BUILDINGS BECAUSE THERE ARE [43:18] THESE BUILDINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW [43:21] ,OWNERS ARE JUST SITTING ON [43:23] THEM. [43:24] UM, AND YOU KNOW, NOT DOING [43:26] ANYTHING WITH THE PROPERTY FOR [43:28] LIKE TEN YEARS, 20 YEARS AND [43:32] THE RODENTS RUN FREE AND THEY [43:33] MAKE THEIR NESTS IN THESE [43:35] YARDS. [43:36] SO I FEEL LIKE IF THE CITY CAN [43:38] CRACK DOWN ON THESE, YOU KNOW, [43:40] ABSENTEE LANDLORDS WHO ARE [43:41] DOING NOTHING BUT SITTING ON [43:43] THEIR PROPERTY FOR SPECULATIVE [43:45] REASONS, UM, THAT WOULD HELP [43:47] THE SITUATION ALSO. [43:48] THANK YOU. [43:49] THANK YOU LYDIA. [43:50] THANK YOU FOR THE IMPORTANT [43:51] WORK YOU ARE DOING IN CHINATOWN [43:53] . [43:54] UM GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. [43:56] AND I KNOW WE DO HAVE AN [43:58] ABANDONED BUILDING RIGHT NEXT [44:00] TO THE CHINATOWN GATE. [44:02] UM, THAT IS A MAJOR CONCERN FOR [44:05] ALL OF US. [44:06] THANK YOU. [44:07] LYDIA. [44:07] I'M GOING TO GO TO ONE MORE [44:09] PUBLIC. [44:09] I'M GOING TO GO TO ONE MORE, [44:11] UM, VIRTUAL TESTIMONY AND I'M [44:13] GOING TO THEN I'M GOING TO TRY [44:14] TO DO SOME IN-PERSON TESTIMONY [44:16] . [44:16] I'M GOING TO TRY TO BALANCE IT [44:18] A LITTLE BIT. [44:18] UM, KERRY ON ZOOM YOU'RE UP. [44:23] GOOD MORNING HARRY. [45:06] AND IN THE MEANTIME I'M GOING [45:07] TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE START [45:09] COMING DOWN TO THE, UM TO THE [45:13] MICROPHONE. [45:13] UM. [45:15] HARRY, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT, [45:17] UM. [45:18] TO BE PROMOTED TO THE PANEL [45:21] PLEASE. [45:22] BUT IN THE MEANTIME, COULD I [45:23] ASK THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE TO [45:25] COME DOWN, MAYBE LINE UP IN [45:27] BOTH MICROPHONES? [45:30] I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE [45:31] RECORD I CONSIDER TO THE. [45:35] COUNCILOR JULIAN HERE UM IS [45:37] PRESENT. [45:39] COULD SUSAN PLEASE. [45:42] COME DOWN? [45:42] DAVID. [45:45] FRANK. [45:46] JOSE AND ALLIE MAYBE TO TO ON [45:50] EACH SIDE. [45:51] HARRY GO AHEAD PLEASE. [45:58] YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE BUT GO [46:00] AHEAD HARRY. [46:14] WELL IN THE MEANTIME SUSAN, WHY [46:15] DON'T YOU GO AHEAD PLEASE? [46:17] GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY. [46:18] MY NAME IS SUSAN BUTA I LIVE AT [46:21] NINE KNOX STREET IN BOSTON AND [46:23] I HOLD THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS [46:25] SEAT AT THE BAY VILLAGE [46:26] NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. [46:28] FIRST I'D LIKE TO THANK [46:30] COUNCILOR FLYNN AND ALL THE [46:31] CITY COUNCILORS THAT ARE HERE. [46:32] WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR [46:33] ATTENDANCE AND ESPECIALLY TO [46:35] CITY SERVICES UM, WHO REALLY DO [46:37] TRY AND SEEM GENERALLY [46:39] CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROBLEM. [46:40] WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO [46:42] THOUGH. [46:43] SO BAY VILLAGE IS OLD. [46:44] WE DON'T HAVE ALLEYS. [46:46] WE DON'T HAVE OUTDOOR STORAGE. [46:47] OUR TRASH IS PUT ON THE STREETS [46:50] AND WE SEE RATS SCURRYING EVERY [46:52] DAY. [46:53] IT WAS EVEN FUNNY. [46:54] AT OUR BLOCK PARTY WE SAW RATS [46:56] OUT AND THERE WERE 120 PEOPLE [46:58] ON THE STREET AND YET THEY WERE [46:59] STILL BOLD ENOUGH TO COME OUT. [47:01] IT'S A PROBLEM VISITORS NOTICE [47:03] IN THE CITY. [47:04] MATTER OF FACT LAST NIGHT [47:06] SOMEBODY NOTICED WHO WAS A [47:08] VISITOR FROM CHICAGO AND SAID [47:10] OH WE SAW A RAT. [47:11] I'M GLAD YOU'RE GOING TO THIS [47:12] HEARING. [47:13] THE ONLY ANSWER TO THIS PROBLEM [47:16] IS TO REDUCE AND CUT THE FOOD [47:18] SOURCE AS WE'VE HEARD. [47:21] UM, EXCEPT FOR WE HAVE TO PUT [47:25] OUT OUR OUR TRASH THE NIGHT [47:28] BEFORE AT 5 P.M. GARBAGE CAN GO [47:30] OUT UNTIL 6 A.M. THE TO THE [47:34] NEXT MORNING SO THE BRATS HAVE [47:37] AN ENTIRE NIGHT TO FEAST. [47:39] NOW WHY DON'T WE PUT OUR TRASH [47:41] OUT IN THE MORNING? [47:41] IT'S BECAUSE OUR TRASH HAS TO [47:43] BE UP BY 6 A.M. IN THE PREVIOUS [47:47] CONTRACT THAT WAS WASTE [47:48] MANAGEMENT. [47:48] WE HAD TO PUT OUT OUR TRASH AT [47:52] 7 A.M. AND THAT MADE A [47:53] DIFFERENCE. [47:54] PEOPLE WERE UP. [47:54] THEY WERE ON THEIR WAY TO WORK. [47:56] THEY PUT THEIR TRASH OUT IN THE [47:57] MORNING. [47:58] IT DIDN'T STOP THE WHOLE [47:59] PROBLEM, BUT THERE'S A HECK [48:00] OF A LOT MORE TRASH WITH THE 6 [48:02] A.M. PICKUP BECAUSE PEOPLE [48:04] AREN'T GOING TO GET UP AT 5 [48:05] A.M. TO PUT THEIR TRASH OUT. [48:07] WE ALSO HAVE VANDALISM. [48:08] YES, CANS AND BOTTLES ARE CUT [48:10] OFF AND UH PUT IN THEIR TRASH [48:13] INSTEAD OF RECYCLING. [48:15] AND HONESTLY THAT'S ON US AS A [48:16] NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO TO DO A LOT [48:18] MORE EDUCATION AND WE ARE [48:19] COMMITTED TO THAT. [48:20] BUT WHAT ABOUT THE VANDALS THAT [48:23] WENT DOWN FAYETTE STREET LAST [48:25] WEEK AND OPENED EVERY BIT [48:27] OF TRASH AND STARTED DUMPING IT [48:28] OUT? [48:29] HOW DO WE FIGHT THAT? [48:32] UM THE THE NEXT THING THE THIRD [48:34] THING I'D LIKE TO BRING OUT IS [48:36] THE GARBAGE TO GARDEN [48:38] EXPANSION. [48:39] IT IS SUCH A GREAT IDEA. [48:42] I HAVE PARTICIPATED IN GARBAGE [48:43] TO GARDEN SINCE I GOT ONE [48:45] OF THE FIRST BINS, AND I HAVE [48:47] BEEN RELIGIOUS ABOUT PUTTING [48:48] ALL MY FOOD SCRAPS OUT THERE. [48:51] UM THE EXPANSION IS A GREAT [48:53] IDEA BUT IT IS MISPLACED RIGHT [48:54] NOW. [48:55] OUR NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD NOT [48:57] HAVE TO BEAR THE STREET TRASH [48:59] PICKUP AND REDUCED FOOD [49:01] EXPANSION PICKUP. [49:03] SO RIGHT NOW WELL WE USED TO [49:05] HAVE UNTIL OCTOBER 1ST BIWEEKLY [49:07] PICKUP. [49:08] I MEAN I'M SORRY WEEKLY PICKUP [49:10] NOW IT IS CHANGED TO EVERY TWO [49:13] WEEKS. [49:13] THIS IS GOING TO BE A PROBLEM [49:16] AND WILL ENHANCE RAT AND UM, [49:18] UH, RABBIT INFESTATION BECAUSE [49:20] I CAN'T MISS A PICKUP. [49:23] IF I MISS ONE THEN IT'S A MONTH [49:26] BEFORE MY TRASH IS PICKED UP [49:30] EVEN IN THE SUMMER, EVEN [49:32] MISSING ONE WEEKLY PICKUP MEANT [49:35] THAT I HAD TO REMOVE HUNDREDS [49:36] OF FRUIT FLY LARVAE FROM MY [49:38] BIN. [49:39] YOU KNOW THE LITTLE EGG CASES [49:40] AND STUFF THEY WEREN'T QUITE [49:41] HATCH BUT IF I MISS ONE IT'S A [49:44] PROBLEM. [49:45] IF I HAD IF I MISSED ONE OF THE [49:48] EVERY OTHER WEEK PICKUPS. [49:50] NOW WE'RE TALKING THAT I HAVE A [49:52] FULL INFESTATION AND THAT'S I'M [49:54] NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO [49:55] TOLERATE THAT OR I KNOW I CAN [49:58] PAY FOR ONE MORE PICKUP BUT I [49:59] PAY TENS OF THOUSANDS [50:01] OF DOLLARS IN TAXES. [50:03] I'M DOING MY PART TO REDUCE MY [50:05] TRASH. [50:06] I AM RECYCLING VIGOROUSLY. [50:08] I AM DOING THE FOOD PROGRAM AND [50:10] NOW I'M GOING TO HAVE TO PAY [50:11] MORE. [50:12] UH, IN A PLACE WHERE I HAVE TO [50:14] PUT MY FOOD ON THE STREET. [50:16] I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD [50:17] IDEA. [50:20] SO WE DO NEED TO EXPAND [50:22] STRATEGICALLY, ESPECIALLY IN [50:23] THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE TO [50:24] PUT THEIR TRASH ON THE STREET. [50:26] WE WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING. [50:28] WE ARE COMMITTED. [50:29] BUT YOU KNOW, I JUST I CAN'T [50:33] LEAVE THAT FOOD FOR A MONTH IN [50:35] MY BINS AND UM MY NEIGHBORS [50:37] DOES SING GREETINGS UM TO YOU [50:39] ALL. [50:39] UM, FOR OUR CURRENT RODENT [50:42] PRACTICES WHICH ALTHOUGH [50:43] THEY'RE TRYING IT'S NOT GOOD [50:45] ENOUGH. [50:45] HE HAD A LOVELY TIME CLEANING [50:47] OUT IN 90 DEGREE TEMPERATURES A [50:49] DEAD RAT FROM HIS BACKYARD AND [50:51] DIDN'T REALLY THINK HE THOUGHT [50:52] YOU SHOULD KNOW. [50:53] ALL RIGHT. [50:54] THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I [50:56] APPRECIATE EVERYBODY. [50:57] THANK YOU SUSAN. [50:58] I DO WANT TO GO TO HARRY ONE [51:00] LAST TIME. [51:00] UM, BEFORE. [51:01] WE CONTINUE WITH, UM, IN PERSON [51:03] TESTIMONY. [51:04] HARRY. [51:05] OKAY. [51:06] THANK YOU. [51:07] CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? [51:08] YES WE CAN. [51:08] GOOD MORNING. [51:09] THANK YOU. [51:10] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [51:11] I'LL BE QUICK BECAUSE I THINK A [51:13] MAJOR PROBLEM I SEE IN THIS [51:15] NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE THE [51:16] PREVIOUS ONE AND SPOKE ABOUT [51:18] PUTTING THE TRASH OUT THE NIGHT [51:19] BEFORE. [51:20] THEY HAVE A BANQUET THERE THE [51:22] NIGHT BEFORE AND I GO BY NIGHT [51:24] AND I SEE THE RATS JUST GOING [51:26] INTO ALL THE TRASH CONTAINERS. [51:28] WHY CAN'T WE GO BACK TO PICKING [51:30] UP LEAVE TO TELLING PEOPLE TO [51:33] PUT THE TRASH OUT TO HAVE A [51:34] CITY CHANGE THAT POLICY TO PUT [51:36] THE TRASH UP THE MORNING OR [51:38] BECAUSE I TRASH GETS PICKED UP [51:42] AT 1030 TO 11:00 SOMETIMES 2:00 [51:43] IN THE AFTERNOON. [51:44] SO IT'S IT'S SO IT SOUNDS LIKE [51:47] A EASY FIX. [51:49] UH SO THAT'S MY BIG ISSUE AND [51:51] UH, I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY'S [51:53] HELP ON THIS ISSUE. [51:54] THANK YOU. [51:57] HARRY, THANK YOU FOR. [51:58] YOUR CRITICAL LEADERSHIP AND. [52:00] UM, THE SOUTH END AND [52:01] THROUGHOUT THE CITY AS WELL. [52:03] I WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE [52:04] PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND THEN I'M [52:05] GOING TO GO BACK TO, UM TO [52:08] BEGIN THE QUESTIONING FROM MY [52:09] COLLEAGUES. [52:10] UM, DAVID. [52:11] GOOD MORNING DAVID. [52:12] THANKS, COUNSELOR. [52:13] AND FIRST OF ALL, I RECOGNIZE [52:15] THAT THIS ISSUE IS AS OLD AS [52:17] THE BOSTON HILLS, BUT I WANT [52:19] TO, UH, GIVE A LITTLE BIT [52:21] OF PERSPECTIVE IN. [52:25] DECEMBER 8TH 2022 THERE WAS A [52:26] HEARING IN THIS CHAMBER ON THIS [52:28] SUBJECT AND THE WHEREAS CLAUSES [52:30] IN THE ORDER FOR THAT MEETING [52:32] ARE EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE [52:33] WHEREAS CLAUSES TODAY. [52:35] SO WE'RE HERE FOUR YEARS LATER [52:37] TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ISSUES [52:38] IN THE SAME WAY. [52:39] IN THE INTERIM I APPRECIATE THE [52:41] WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY THE [52:43] ACTION COMMITTEE, BUT I HAVE [52:45] TWO SUGGESTIONS TWO SIMPLE [52:47] SUGGESTIONS. [52:48] ONE IS THAT AND THIS WAS NOT [52:50] INCORPORATED IN THE ACTION [52:51] COMMITTEE. [52:53] I BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE A A [52:55] RAT CZAR. [52:56] SOMEBODY NEEDS TO OWN THIS [52:58] PROBLEM. [52:58] IT HAS TO BE THE NAME AND FACE [53:00] OF THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM [53:02] WITH 20 COMMITTEES AND AGENCIES [53:04] AND DEPARTMENTS IT'S VERY [53:06] DIFFICULT AND I APPRECIATE THE [53:07] THE CHALLENGE OF COORDINATING [53:10] THE EFFORT. [53:11] I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO OWN [53:12] IT. [53:12] IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T OWN IT IT [53:14] DOESN'T GET DONE. [53:15] THE SECOND SUGGESTION IS WE [53:17] HAVE ADEQUATE UH OR AT LEAST [53:20] SOMEWHAT ADEQUATE UH, CODE UH [53:24] REGULATIONS IN THE CODE TODAY. [53:26] BUT ENFORCEMENT IS A PROBLEM [53:28] PARTICULARLY IN AREAS WHERE [53:30] CONTAINERIZATION IS NOT [53:31] POSSIBLE. [53:32] ALL WE NEED TO DO IS ENFORCE [53:34] THE TIMING WHETHER IT'S THE [53:36] NIGHT BEFORE OR THE DAY OF. [53:39] THERE'S STILL, UM, A LOT [53:42] OF TRANSGRESSIONS OF THAT [53:43] ISSUE. [53:44] AND THEN THE SECOND ISSUE AN [53:45] EXAMPLE OF OF A CODE THAT IS [53:47] NOT ENFORCED IS SIMPLY THE [53:49] THICKNESS OF THE PLASTIC BAGS. [53:51] PEOPLE ARE USING PAPER BAGS AND [53:53] KITCHEN BAGS THAT IS EXPLICITLY [53:55] PROHIBITED IN THE CODE AND YET [53:58] UM THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT [53:59] OF THAT PROBLEM AND WHEN [54:01] THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT THERE [54:02] ISN'T SUFFICIENT COMPLIANCE. [54:04] THANKS VERY MUCH. [54:05] THAT. [54:06] THANK YOU. [54:07] DAVID. [54:08] UM. [54:11] I DO WANT TO RESPOND TO. [54:13] THE THE RATS UH, COMMENT YOU [54:15] MADE BUT OUT OF RESPECT TO, UH [54:17] ,THE PUBLIC I'LL RESPOND [54:19] LATER. [54:20] UM. [54:21] BUT, UM, I RESPECT THAT YOUR [54:23] COMMENTS. [54:24] AND AGREE. [54:25] WITH YOU. [54:25] UM. [54:28] FRANK SOUCY YES. [54:29] YEAH. [54:30] GOOD MORNING. [54:30] IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH. [54:31] YOU. [54:31] AND THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR ALL [54:33] YOUR EFFORTS, WHICH I APPLAUD. [54:35] I THINK. [54:35] THAT THERE WAS ALL THIS VERY. [54:37] SOPHISTICATED METHODS NECESSARY [54:39] BUT AT THE SAME TIME AND I'M [54:41] HERE ON A VERY PERSONAL AND NON [54:43] CONCERNED CITIZEN BECAUSE I DO [54:44] NOT HAVE THIS PROBLEM [54:45] PERSONALLY BUT UH BY THE SAME [54:48] TOKEN UH. [54:49] YOU SEE A LOT OF UH FILTH [54:53] THROUGHOUT THE CITY AND I'M NOT [54:54] TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH [54:55] CONTAINERS TALKING ABOUT [54:57] SIDEWALKS THESE RESTAURANTS [54:59] THAT HAVE SET UP THEIR. [55:01] LITTLE CAFES ON THE SIDEWALKS [55:03] JUST THE CAMBRIDGE STREET RIGHT [55:06] NEAR HERE. [55:07] UH, I DON'T EVEN WANT TO WALK [55:09] ON CAMBRIDGE STREET BECAUSE [55:10] SITTING RIGHT ACROSS FROM A [55:12] MAJOR, UH, WORLD RENOWNED [55:15] HOSPITAL YOU HAVE THIS FILTH [55:17] AND NO NO OFFENSE, BUT YOU I [55:20] WALKED INTO CITY HALL TODAY FOR [55:22] THE FIRST TIME. [55:22] THE WELCOMING CARPET OUTSIDE. [55:25] ITSELF IS FILTHY. [55:28] SO WE HAVE TO TEACH AND I THINK [55:30] CLOROX I MEAN, AT HOME I'M [55:31] CALLED MRS. CLOROX. [55:33] BUT I THINK THAT, UH, IN. [55:35] OTHER COUNTRIES YOU CLEAN [55:36] SIDEWALKS WITH CLOROX ALMOST ON [55:38] A DAILY BASIS AND ELIMINATE THE [55:41] GREASE ACCUMULATION. [55:43] AND I THINK THAT SHOULD BE. [55:44] ALSO ONE OF THE METHODS. [55:46] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [55:48] THANK YOU VERY, VERY MUCH. [55:49] WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY CITY [55:51] COUNCIL I WOULD SAY LOUIJEUNE. [55:54] UM AND FINALLY UM ALI GOOD [55:56] MORNING ALI. [55:57] GOOD MORNING. [55:57] THANK YOU FOR SHARING THIS UH, [56:00] IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. [56:02] I TOO WAS AND PRESENT AT THE [56:05] 2022, UH, PUBLIC TESTIMONY. [56:07] I'VE ALSO COLLABORATED VERY [56:09] CLOSELY WITH LUKE AND JOHN [56:11] ULRICH. [56:11] UM, AND THE BOSTON RED ACTION [56:14] UM TEAM. [56:15] UM, SO WROTE AN ACTION PLAN [56:18] TEAM. [56:18] SO, UM, I ALSO SIT ON A [56:20] NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD IN BACK BAY. [56:21] ALTHOUGH MY OPINIONS HERE [56:25] EXPLICITLY UM, AS A RESIDENT [56:27] PERSPECTIVE UM AND I'M HAPPY TO [56:29] HEAR UM I SEE A COUPLE OF THE [56:32] REMOTE PEOPLE WERE UM TESTIMONY [56:35] FROM MY AREA. [56:36] THEY ARE BLOCK CAPTAINS. [56:38] WE RUN A VERY LARGE BLOCK [56:40] CAPTAIN PROGRAM IN BACK BAY, [56:41] PROBABLY THE LARGEST IN THE [56:43] CITY AND ONE OF THE LARGEST ON [56:45] THE EAST COAST. [56:47] UM, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT [56:49] HAVE BEEN BROUGHT TO MY [56:50] ATTENTION, UM, ARE DAMAGES TO [56:54] AUTOMOBILES. [56:55] WE ARE HAVING AN INCREASED [56:56] AMOUNT OF CAR WIRING BEING [56:59] EATEN CHEWED THROUGH BY RATS [57:01] AND WE'VE DONE A LOT [57:02] OF EDUCATION TO GET PEOPLE TO [57:04] MOVE THEIR CARS MORE REGULARLY [57:06] UM, SO THAT THEY'RE NOT SITTING [57:07] STAGNANT AND EXPERIENCING THOSE [57:10] CATASTROPHIC UH, DAMAGES. [57:12] SO AND UPWARDS OF THIS WEEK, [57:14] UH, ONE OF THE BLOCK CAPTAINS [57:16] THEMSELVES HAD $6,000 [57:18] OF DAMAGES TO THEIR VEHICLE AND [57:21] NOT ALL INSURANCE COMPANIES ARE [57:22] COVERING FOR THE REPAIRS [57:24] OF THIS. [57:25] I DO ADVOCATE AND I WOULD [57:27] IMPLORE THE BOSTON RAT ROAD [57:29] RODENT ACTION COMMITTEE TO [57:32] REALLY LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GET [57:34] TO SAME DAY PUT OUT OF GARBAGE [57:37] . [57:38] UM I HAVE READ AND SEEN [57:40] SUCCESSES IN NEW YORK AND LA [57:43] AND ARIZONA. [57:45] WHEN YOU MOVE THE TRASH [57:46] PLACEMENT TIME TO THE SAME DAY [57:49] OF PICK UP THE RAT POPULATION [57:52] DRAMATICALLY DECREASES. [57:53] I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE SOME [57:55] CONSTRAINTS WITH THAT BUT IF WE [57:56] CAN GET TO THAT. [57:57] GREAT. [57:58] ON THE SUBJECT [57:58] OF CONTAINERIZATION AND THE [57:59] LAST GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE I [58:01] HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN PHOTOS WHEN [58:04] YOU PLACED THE WHITE KITCHEN [58:06] TRASH BAG AT THE CURBSIDE [58:08] VERSUS THE BLACK CONTRACTOR [58:10] BAG. [58:11] THERE SEEMS TO BE A DRAMATIC [58:14] DIFFERENCE IN THE CHEW THROUGH [58:15] RATE ON THE WHITE KITCHEN TRASH [58:17] BAG. [58:18] UM IT IS VERY PERMEABLE, EASILY [58:20] PENETRATED BY THE RATS AND I [58:22] WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE BOSTON [58:24] RODENT ACTION TEAM MAYBE RUN A [58:27] PILOT. [58:28] MAYBE WE RUN IT IN BACK BAY. [58:29] I DID NOTICE ON THE HEAT MAP WE [58:31] WERE THE REDDEST AREA FOR [58:34] RODENT ACTIVITY IN THE CITY. [58:36] SO WHY DON'T WE START WHERE THE [58:38] ACTION IS HOT AND I WOULD BE [58:41] SUPPORTIVE OF THAT AND CAN GET [58:42] SOME RESOURCES TO PILOT PUTTING [58:45] ALL CURBSIDE TRASH INTO BLACK [58:49] CONTRACTOR BAGS AND LET'S [58:51] MEASURE THE DIFFERENCE WE CAN [58:52] WE CAN DO A PILOT TWO BLOCKS [58:54] THREE BLOCKS SQUARE RADIUS. [58:56] I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT [58:57] IS DOABLE AND MIGHT HAVE A [58:59] SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. [59:01] CONTAINERIZATION HAS GOT TO BE [59:02] ENFORCED. [59:04] I REALLY THINK WE NEED TO [59:05] PRESSURE THAT. [59:07] UM AND YOU KNOW, JUST SO YOU [59:08] KNOW, THE WOMAN THAT SPOKE [59:10] EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE MENTIONED [59:11] THAT WE PUT THE TRASH OUT [59:13] CURRENTLY AT 5 P.M. AND WE HAVE [59:15] THE OVERNIGHT THAT OCCURS BUT [59:17] BECAUSE OF THE TRASH ROTATIONS [59:20] THAT TRASH SITS OUT AT THE CURB [59:23] FOR A NET 22 HOURS IN ANY GIVEN [59:27] NEIGHBORHOOD BASED ON THE [59:29] ROTATION OF THE OF THE TRASH [59:31] PICKUP TIMES. [59:33] SO IF THE TRASH GOES OUT AT [59:35] FIVE SOMETIMES THE PICKUPS ARE [59:38] 3 P.M. THE NEXT DAY THAT'S A [59:40] NET 22 HOURS BUFFET FOR THESE [59:44] RATS AND WE NEED TO CLOSE THE [59:46] BUFFET FOR THE RATS. [59:48] SO THAT WOULD THAT WOULD BE MY [59:50] PRIMARY POINT TO YOU FOLKS. [59:52] AND IF WE CAN'T GET TO SAME DAY [59:54] PUT OUT I'M I'M REALLY WILLING [59:56] TO WORK WITH THE CITY. [59:58] CAN WE MOVE THE TRASH PLACEMENT [1:00:01] TIME FROM 5 P.M. TO MAYBE 8 [1:00:04] P.M. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT [1:00:06] HAVE A DRAMATIC, UH, DECREASE [1:00:08] IN RODENT ACTIVITY FOR AT LEAST [1:00:10] THREE WARMER HOURS OF THE DAY [1:00:13] WHERE THE THE SMELLS EMULATE [1:00:15] FROM THE BAGS EMANATE FROM THE [1:00:17] BAGS. [1:00:18] UM, THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY [1:00:20] SOMETHING WE COULD TRY TO PILOT [1:00:21] . [1:00:23] SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME AND I [1:00:24] APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. [1:00:25] WHAT WE'RE HOPING TO GET ACTION [1:00:28] ON THIS PLAN AND SOMETHING TO [1:00:31] GET TO CONTAINERIZATION [1:00:32] IMPLEMENTED CITYWIDE AND MOVE [1:00:34] THAT PLACEMENT TIME OUT. [1:00:37] THAT WOULD BE GREAT. [1:00:38] THANK YOU. [1:00:39] THANK YOU ALI AND IT'S GOOD [1:00:41] TO BE WITH YOU THE OTHER NIGHT [1:00:42] AND UH, THE BACKPACK. [1:00:46] WE STILL HAVE MORE PUBLIC [1:00:47] TESTIMONY IN PERSON AND [1:00:50] VIRTUAL. [1:00:51] UM, BUT AT THIS TIME I AM GOING [1:00:54] TO ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF THEY [1:00:57] WOULD LIKE TO ASK QUESTIONS TO [1:00:58] THE PANELIST HERE. [1:01:00] I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYBODY [1:01:02] FIVE MINUTES EACH CITY [1:01:03] COUNCIL FIVE MINUTES. [1:01:06] UM I DON'T INTERRUPT MY CITY [1:01:08] COUNCIL COLLEAGUES WHEN THEY'RE [1:01:09] SPEAKING WHETHER I AGREE WITH [1:01:10] THE QUESTION OR NOT AND IF THEY [1:01:12] GO OVER THE FIVE MINUTES UM, [1:01:14] YOU KNOW I'M NOT GOING TO CUT [1:01:15] THEM OFF EITHER. [1:01:16] I DO WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL TO [1:01:18] THEM. [1:01:19] UM, HAVING SAID THAT, LET [1:01:21] ME START WITH THE CITY [1:01:22] COUNCIL PRESIDENT [1:01:23] COUNCIL BREADON. [1:01:24] THANK YOU. [1:01:27] UM AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR VERY [1:01:28] COMPREHENSIVE UM, UPDATE ON ON [1:01:30] THE BARB UM THE THE THE BARB [1:01:34] DETERMINED THAT ENFORCEMENT CAN [1:01:35] BE RENDERED QUITE CHALLENGING [1:01:37] UM, AS PER CITY OF BOSTON [1:01:40] NEEDING ACCESS AND PERMISSION [1:01:41] TO STEP ONTO PRIVATE PROPERTY. [1:01:43] UM, IS THERE ANY WAY ANY DESIRE [1:01:46] TO EXPLORE WAYS THAT WE CAN [1:01:48] MAKE THAT LEGAL UM TO ALLOW ESD [1:01:51] TO CARRY OUT ENFORCEMENT ON [1:01:52] PRIVATE PROPERTY? [1:01:53] I KNOW CAMBRIDGE DOES THAT, BUT [1:01:55] CAMBRIDGE DOES A LOT OF THINGS [1:01:56] AS WE DO. [1:01:57] SO UM ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT? [1:01:59] UM, JOHN. [1:02:01] SO WE WE DO THE BEST WE CAN. [1:02:04] UM, YOU KNOW, WE WE INSPECTORS [1:02:06] SHOULD BE RINGING DOORBELLS. [1:02:08] UM, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE [1:02:10] THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IT [1:02:11] COULD BE A TENANT THAT GIVES US [1:02:13] PERMISSION. [1:02:14] WE ALSO, UM, IF WE'RE ON A [1:02:16] NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND WE [1:02:18] HAVE PERMISSION, WE CAN LOOK [1:02:19] OVER THE FENCE. [1:02:20] UM, AND SO INSPECTORS SHOULD BE [1:02:22] MAKING EVERY EFFORT TO ACCESS [1:02:24] AND SEE, UH, WHAT THEY CAN. [1:02:27] UM, BUT I CAN, UM, TALK TO [1:02:30] LEGAL ABOUT, UH, EFFORTS [1:02:32] ESPECIALLY IF IF YOU SAY [1:02:33] CAMBRIDGE UH, THEY WERE ALLOWED [1:02:35] TO TO WALK ON THE PROPERTY AND [1:02:36] SEE IF THERE'S UH IF THERE'S [1:02:38] SOME EFFORTS TO EXPAND THAT, [1:02:40] UH, CAPABILITY. [1:02:41] UM, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED IN [1:02:43] YOUR PRESENTATION ABOUT, UH, [1:02:46] THE BAR INFORMING PARK [1:02:48] CONSTRUCTION I KNOW THERE'S [1:02:49] HAVE BEEN THERE'S BEEN A BIG [1:02:50] ISSUE AT RINGER PARK. [1:02:52] UM, UH, HAS IS THERE ANY WAY [1:02:55] HOW DOES RODENT CONTROL GET [1:02:57] INTEGRATED INTO PROJECTS AT THE [1:02:59] PARKS DEPARTMENT BECAUSE I [1:03:00] THINK YOU KNOW RIGHT. [1:03:01] AND COMMON IS ANOTHER ONE WHERE [1:03:02] THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE [1:03:04] STAGE WITH DECKING AND UM, THE [1:03:07] THE HAVE A LITTLE COLONY [1:03:09] OF RATS IN UNDER THAT. [1:03:10] SO HOW ARE WE WORKING WITH [1:03:12] PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SORT OF HAD [1:03:13] THIS OFF. [1:03:14] SO SO NOW WHEN THERE'S A NEW [1:03:16] PARK WE WE MEET UH GO OVER THE [1:03:19] DESIGN WE CAN BE ON SITE. [1:03:20] WE DID IT FOR UM COPLEY WE DID. [1:03:24] UM, NOW THE THE PARK THEY'RE [1:03:25] WORKING ON IS UH, THE GREENWAY [1:03:27] IN EAST BOSTON AND CAN TELL OH, [1:03:30] WE WERE UM YOU KNOW, WE [1:03:32] PARTNERED WITH THEM. [1:03:33] UM, THEY DESIGN THE PARK HAD [1:03:36] SOME RODENT PREVENTION IN [1:03:37] THERE, BUT RATS ARE JUST REALLY [1:03:39] SMART AND SO THEY FIND [1:03:41] VULNERABILITIES, YOU KNOW THAT [1:03:42] THAT WE DIDN'T THINK OF. [1:03:44] UM, AND SO THE THINGS THAT WE [1:03:46] LEARNED THERE, UM, WHERE WE'RE [1:03:48] GOING TO INCLUDE MOVING FORWARD [1:03:50] BUT WE'RE GOING TO CREATE A [1:03:52] DOCUMENT UM OF DESIGN STANDARDS [1:03:54] FOR BOTH PARKS, UH, BOSTON [1:03:57] WATER AND SEWER. [1:03:59] UM AND WE HAVE ALREADY WORKED [1:04:00] IT INTO THE DESIGN STANDARDS [1:04:02] OF PUBLIC FACILITIES. [1:04:03] I COULD UM I KNOW THERE'S [1:04:05] BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT, UM, [1:04:06] RODENT, UH, BIRTH CONTROL. [1:04:08] UM, IS THIS IS THIS BEEN PROVEN [1:04:11] TO BE IN A MANAGEMENT AN [1:04:13] EFFECTIVE MANAGEMENT TOOL OR [1:04:13] WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT? [1:04:15] WE HAVEN'T SEEN UM, FOR THE [1:04:18] FOLKS THAT HAVE INVESTED IN IT [1:04:20] . [1:04:21] UM MEASURABLE IMPROVEMENTS. [1:04:23] UH, BUT WE'RE STILL YOU KNOW, [1:04:24] WE'RE STILL LOOKING AND UM, YOU [1:04:27] KNOW, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION [1:04:29] IN UH, NEW YORK UM, AT THE THE [1:04:32] SUMMIT. [1:04:33] UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T SEEN ANY ANY [1:04:37] PROOF THAT THERE'S BEEN A [1:04:39] MEASURABLE REDUCTION. [1:04:41] UM, AND A WAY THAT WE COULD [1:04:43] INCORPORATE IT AT THIS POINT. [1:04:45] UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE [1:04:47] CONSTANTLY OPEN TO IT AND IF [1:04:49] THERE COMES A POINT WHERE WE [1:04:50] CAN FIND A PRODUCT THAT WORKS, [1:04:52] UM, YOU KNOW, WE SAY WE'LL TRY [1:04:54] IT. [1:04:54] YEAH. [1:04:55] AND NO RODENT ACTIVITIES. [1:04:57] UM, IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WE'VE [1:04:58] HAD A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION. [1:04:59] VERY OFTEN NEIGHBORS SAY THAT [1:05:01] RODENT ACTIVITY IS VERY [1:05:03] DIRECTLY RELATED TO [1:05:04] CONSTRUCTION. [1:05:04] UM, ARE THERE ANY [1:05:07] RECOMMENDATIONS FOR BARB TO [1:05:08] PLACE THE ONUS ON DEVELOPERS [1:05:09] AND CONTRACTORS TO HELP ADDRESS [1:05:12] THAT ISSUE? [1:05:13] AH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WHAT THE [1:05:14] JURY'S OUT SORT OF ON ON [1:05:15] WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S A REAL [1:05:17] FACTOR. [1:05:18] SO THE RATS HAVE TO BE THERE [1:05:20] OBVIOUSLY UH, FOR IT TO TO BE [1:05:22] AN ISSUE WITH CONSTRUCTION. [1:05:24] SO UH, COMMUNITY SANITATION UH [1:05:27] PROGRAM IS IF THE UM DOES IN [1:05:31] THE DESIGN REVIEW THE PLANS [1:05:34] EXAMINER WILL ASSIGN THE [1:05:35] COMMUNITY SANITATION SIGN OFF, [1:05:37] WHICH MEANS THEY CAN'T GET A [1:05:39] PERMIT FROM I-S-D UNLESS THEY [1:05:42] PRODUCE A, UH, REPORT FROM A [1:05:44] LICENSED PEST CONTROL [1:05:45] TECHNICIAN THAT SAYS THE, UM [1:05:48] THE PROPERTY IS RODENT FREE AND [1:05:50] THAT MONITORING STATIONS HAVE [1:05:52] BEEN PLACED AROUND THE [1:05:53] PERIMETER. [1:05:53] ONCE THAT HAPPENS, WE GET THAT [1:05:56] REPORT, WE GIVE THEM A SIGN OFF [1:05:57] AND THEN WE DISPATCH A AND [1:05:59] INSPECT THE SO WE DID. [1:06:01] I THINK IT'S A IT'S AROUND TWO [1:06:04] 210 CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS [1:06:06] SINCE JANUARY 1ST. [1:06:09] UM AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAN. [1:06:11] THERE ARE UH WAYS THAT YOU CAN [1:06:14] HOLD UH CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES [1:06:17] RESPONSIBLE IF WE CAN PROVE [1:06:18] THAT THAT THEY WERE [1:06:20] RESPONSIBLE. [1:06:20] FOR IT. [1:06:21] UM, WHICH SOMETIMES THAT CAN [1:06:22] BE DIFFICULT. [1:06:23] BUT, UH, WE DO OUR BEST AT THE [1:06:25] BEGINNING OF THE CONSTRUCTION [1:06:26] TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO RATS. [1:06:28] VERY GOOD. [1:06:28] THANK YOU. [1:06:29] I'LL COME BACK FOR A SECOND [1:06:30] ROUND, BUT THANK YOU. [1:06:30] THANK YOU, MISTER CHAIR. [1:06:32] AND THANK YOU, [1:06:33] COUNCIL PRESIDENT. [1:06:37] COUNCILOR BREADON, YOU'RE UP. [1:06:39] WHICH I MEAN I'M SORRY, [1:06:41] COUNCILOR DURKAN. [1:06:42] THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR. [1:06:43] UM, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK [1:06:45] ON THIS ISSUE. [1:06:45] UM, I KNOW THAT, UH, WE'VE HAD [1:06:47] MANY HEARINGS ON THIS ISSUE. [1:06:49] I THINK, UM, COUNCILOR FLOOD [1:06:51] AND I BOTH FILED A TON [1:06:53] OF FILINGS ON THIS AND I KNOW [1:06:54] LAST YEAR WE HAD A HEARING [1:06:56] EXPLORING SAME DAY PUT OUT AND [1:06:58] PICK UP FOR A NON CONTAINERIZED [1:06:59] A WASTE WHICH I AUTHORED. [1:07:02] UM ACTUALLY THANKS TO MY UM MY [1:07:04] FRIEND AND MY CONSTITUENT HARRY [1:07:06] COLLINGS WHO I KNOW JUST [1:07:07] TESTIFIED VIRTUALLY. [1:07:09] UM, A GREAT UH, GUY WHO WORKS [1:07:11] FOR MAYOR AND YOU KNOW, AND UM, [1:07:13] NOW DOES A LOT OF GREAT WORK IN [1:07:14] OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:07:15] UM, I'M JUST CURIOUS. [1:07:18] UM, SORT OF WHERE WE ARE [1:07:20] BECAUSE I THINK, UH A LOT [1:07:22] OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT [1:07:24] HEARING WAS THAT, YOU KNOW, [1:07:25] WHAT NEW YORK WAS DOING WASN'T [1:07:27] WORKING. [1:07:27] PEOPLE WERE ABUSING THOSE [1:07:28] CONTAINERIZED TRASH CANS. [1:07:29] NOW THEY HAVE MAXIMUM DONNIE. [1:07:31] HE'S ACTUALLY EXPANDING SORT [1:07:33] OF THOSE UH THOSE UH, YOU KNOW, [1:07:36] SMALLER, UM CONTAINERIZED [1:07:38] TOTES. [1:07:38] I KNOW HOW EXPENSIVE THEY ARE. [1:07:40] I ALSO KNOW THAT, UM, EVEN WITH [1:07:42] THE, YOU KNOW, RAT PROOF TRASH [1:07:44] CANS, WE AREN'T GETTING 100%, [1:07:46] YOU KNOW, RAT PROOF. [1:07:47] AND SO EVEN WITH WHAT WE'RE [1:07:49] TRYING TO INNOVATE, UM, YOU [1:07:51] KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO [1:07:53] DO. [1:07:53] UM, I THINK GETTING, UM, [1:07:55] GETTING TRASH OFF OF OUR [1:07:57] STREETS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT [1:07:58] PART OF THAT. [1:07:59] UM, AND OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF OUR [1:08:01] BASEMENTS WHICH USED TO BE USED [1:08:03] FOR TRASH ARE NOW APARTMENTS. [1:08:05] SO SO HOW DO WE DO THIS? [1:08:07] AND UM AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S [1:08:09] TRADE OFFS WITH PARKING AND [1:08:10] OTHER THINGS BUT WHAT IS THE [1:08:12] CITY THINKING ABOUT IN TERMS [1:08:14] OF CONTAINERIZATION AND ALSO [1:08:15] POTENTIALLY CHANGING THE POLICY [1:08:17] UM FOR SAME DAY PUT OUT PICK UP [1:08:19] AND PUT OUT WHICH I KNOW IS A [1:08:21] HUGE CHARGE FOR THE BACK BAY [1:08:22] AND BEACON HILL UH, WHICH ARE [1:08:24] DEALING WITH UM YOU KNOW, THE [1:08:26] NEGATIVE EXTERNALITIES OF OF [1:08:28] NOT HAVING SPACE FOR TRASH [1:08:30] ROOMS. [1:08:31] THANKS, COUNCIL. [1:08:32] I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION. [1:08:34] UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, THE CITY'S [1:08:35] VERY UNIQUE AND I THINK EACH [1:08:37] NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THEIR OWN [1:08:38] UNIQUE SET OF CHALLENGES. [1:08:40] SOME ARE MORE DENSE THAN [1:08:41] OTHERS. [1:08:41] UM, WHICH MAKES IT CHALLENGING [1:08:43] FOR CONTAINERIZATION IN EVERY [1:08:44] NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:08:45] UH, WHICH IS WHY WE HAVE A [1:08:46] COUPLE OF DIFFERENT UM, KIND [1:08:48] OF METHODS OF HOW WE COLLECT [1:08:49] TRASH ACROSS THE CITY. [1:08:50] UM, AS YOU AS YOU KNOW, OVER [1:08:52] THE LAST, YOU KNOW, YEAR WE'VE [1:08:53] BEEN WORKING WITH DIFFERENT UH, [1:08:55] UNIVERSITY PARTNERS AS WELL AS [1:08:57] COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO BETTER [1:08:58] UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE [1:08:59] DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT ARE [1:09:01] AVAILABLE TO US, UM, TO KIND [1:09:02] OF MAKE REFORMS TO SOME [1:09:03] OF THESE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES [1:09:04] THAT YOU'RE TALKING THROUGH AND [1:09:06] WHAT WOULD SOME OF THOSE WHAT [1:09:07] ARE SOME OF THOSE REFORMS THAT [1:09:09] COMMUNITY WOULD BE IN FAVOR [1:09:10] OF SUPPORTING? [1:09:11] UM, I CAN'T SPEAK SPECIFICALLY [1:09:13] TO THE EXACT KIND OF UH, [1:09:14] THINKING OF PUBLIC WORKS UM, AS [1:09:17] TO KIND OF THE LONG TERM [1:09:18] SOLUTIONS AND STRATEGIES. [1:09:19] BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN [1:09:20] COORDINATION WITH THE STREETS [1:09:21] TEAM, UH, IS IDENTIFYING THOSE [1:09:23] DIFFERENT OPTIONS. [1:09:24] WORKING WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS [1:09:25] TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY [1:09:27] WOULD SUPPORT AND THEN KIND [1:09:28] OF WORKING WITH THE UM, TRASH [1:09:30] CONTRACTORS TO SEE WHAT WOULD [1:09:31] BE UH, FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO [1:09:33] OPERATIONALIZE. [1:09:33] UH, AND. [1:09:34] THEN YOU KNOW. [1:09:34] HOPEFULLY UH, IN COLLABORATION [1:09:35] WITH PUBLIC WORKS, UM, THEY'LL [1:09:37] KIND OF ROLL OUT A LONG TERM [1:09:38] STRATEGY BUT AGAIN, THEY WOULD [1:09:39] BE BEST TO KIND OF ANSWER SOME [1:09:40] OF THOSE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT [1:09:42] THEY'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE. [1:09:43] WELL, I THINK THAT UM WE USED [1:09:45] TO HAVE UM THAT YOU COULD BUY [1:09:47] CITY OF BOSTON RECYCLING BAGS [1:09:49] AT WHOLE FOODS. [1:09:50] THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT UM AND [1:09:51] I DON'T KNOW, THEY HAD [1:09:52] LITERALLY THE CITY OF BOSTON [1:09:53] LOGO ON THEM. [1:09:54] I'M NOT SURE WHO WAS SELLING [1:09:55] THEM OR WHY AND IF THE CITY WAS [1:09:57] ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THAT. [1:09:59] UM, I THINK IT'S REALLY [1:10:00] IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A [1:10:01] STANDARD IF WE ARE GOING TO DO [1:10:03] NON CONTAINERIZED WASTE THAT WE [1:10:04] HAVE A STANDARD MINIMUM UM [1:10:07] TRASH BAG THAT PEOPLE CAN USE. [1:10:09] UM IT'S NOT I KNOW IN MY [1:10:11] NEIGHBORHOOD YOU CAN'T FIND THE [1:10:13] TYPE OF TRASH BAG THAT YOU [1:10:14] SHOULD USE AT ANY OF THE LOCAL [1:10:16] STORES. [1:10:16] SO EVEN DOING A CAMPAIGN WITH [1:10:18] ALL THE LOCAL STORES AND [1:10:19] GETTING THEM TO SELL THE RIGHT [1:10:21] TYPE AND WEIGHT OF TRASH BAG I [1:10:23] THINK WOULD BE HUGE. [1:10:25] UM I I THINK THAT A HUGE PART [1:10:27] OF THIS IS EDUCATION BUT IF YOU [1:10:28] CAN'T EVEN FIND IN YOUR LOCAL [1:10:30] STORE WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO [1:10:32] BE USING, IT'S WE'RE GOING TO [1:10:33] CONTINUE TO USE KITCHEN TRASH [1:10:35] BAGS AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE [1:10:37] THEM IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND [1:10:38] THEY ARE EASILY AS WE KNOW UM A [1:10:42] BUFFET AND A FEAST FOR RATS. [1:10:44] UM, WHEN UM AND I KNOW THAT WE [1:10:46] ARE DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO [1:10:48] EXPAND PROJECT OSCAR WHICH IS I [1:10:50] THINK HAS BEEN A HUGE UM YOU [1:10:52] KNOW, IT HAS BEEN REALLY, [1:10:53] REALLY HELPFUL TO GET AS MUCH [1:10:55] OF THE WASTE, UM, THE FOOD [1:10:57] WASTE AS WE CAN OUT OF THE [1:10:58] TRASH BAGS. [1:10:59] UM, BUT THERE'S MORE WORK TO [1:11:01] DO. [1:11:01] UM, I KNOW HOLLY WANTED ME TO [1:11:03] GET ON THIS ON THE RECORD. [1:11:05] APPARENTLY THERE'S A CASE STUDY [1:11:07] ON CONTAINERIZATION. [1:11:08] WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT. [1:11:09] UM, SO IF, UM, IF THAT CAN BE [1:11:12] PROVIDED TO OUR OFFICE, WE [1:11:13] WOULD PREFER, UM, TO FIGURE [1:11:16] THIS OUT. [1:11:17] I THINK WE WE I THINK AS A CITY [1:11:19] COUNCIL COULD REALLY UNITE [1:11:20] AROUND CONTAINERIZATION. [1:11:22] I KNOW IT'S EXPENSIVE. [1:11:23] UM, AND I KNOW THERE'S, UH, YOU [1:11:25] KNOW, DIFFERENT UH, FACTORS IN [1:11:27] DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS. [1:11:28] I KNOW COUNCILOR CLAUDIA ZAPATA [1:11:29] AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. [1:11:30] YOU KNOW, THE NORTH END MIGHT [1:11:32] BE DIFFERENT THAN BEACON HILL [1:11:32] BUT WE HAVE VERY SIMILAR [1:11:33] CHALLENGES. [1:11:34] UM, SO I'M, YOU KNOW, FROM WEST [1:11:37] END TO MISSION HILL, LOTS [1:11:39] OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. [1:11:40] UM, CAN YOU JUST TELL ME VERY [1:11:42] BRIEFLY. [1:11:43] UM, WHEN SOMEONE SEES AN INFLUX [1:11:45] OF RATS WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED [1:11:47] TO DO AND SORT OF WHAT THOSE [1:11:48] NEXT STEPS ARE? [1:11:49] UM, BECAUSE I, I OFTEN FIND [1:11:51] THAT NEIGHBORS ARE UM, YOU [1:11:54] KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T [1:11:55] ALWAYS DIAL THROUGH ON ONE. [1:11:57] THEY DON'T ALWAYS UM THEY DON'T [1:11:59] ALWAYS KNOW THAT THEY SHOULD [1:12:00] REPORT TO THE CITY WHEN THEY [1:12:01] SEE TEN RATS IN A ROW AND WHEN [1:12:03] THEY SEE INCREASED RAT ACTIVITY [1:12:05] WHAT CAN WHAT SHOULD AND UH, [1:12:07] RESIDENTS BE DOING WHEN THEY [1:12:08] SEE RATS? [1:12:09] YEAH HAPPY TO START AND THEN [1:12:10] DOCTOR CHIME IN AS WELL. [1:12:12] BUT UM WE REALLY ENCOURAGE OUR [1:12:13] RESIDENTS TO ANYTIME YOU SEE [1:12:15] RODENT ACTIVITY TO SUBMIT THAT [1:12:17] UH 311 JOHN AND HIS TEAM CAN [1:12:19] RESPOND WITHIN 24 TO 48 HOURS. [1:12:21] BUT ALSO WE'VE SET UP A [1:12:23] DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS WHICH [1:12:26] IS RATS@BOSTON.GOV. [1:12:26] SINCE WE LAUNCHED THAT OVER A [1:12:28] YEAR AGO. [1:12:28] I THINK THAT'S BEEN A REALLY [1:12:29] GREAT UM, PLATFORM FOR FOLKS TO [1:12:31] SUBMIT SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW [1:12:33] THEY CAN HELP PREVENT RODENT [1:12:34] ACTIVITY BUT ALSO LET US KNOW [1:12:35] ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES [1:12:36] THEY'RE FACING AND WE UTILIZE [1:12:38] THAT PLATFORM TO JUST UM, SEND [1:12:39] OUT INSPECTORS TO HELP KIND [1:12:41] OF REDUCE THE RODENT CHALLENGES [1:12:42] THAT THEY'RE SEEING AND ADDRESS [1:12:43] SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS. [1:12:44] UM, I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT [1:12:46] THAT YOUR POINT AROUND [1:12:47] EDUCATION IS IS REALLY [1:12:48] IMPORTANT. [1:12:49] UM, I THINK SOME OF THE WORK [1:12:50] THAT ALLIE AND HER NEIGHBORHOOD [1:12:52] ASSOCIATION DO IS IS REALLY A [1:12:53] GREAT KIND OF STANDARD THAT [1:12:55] OTHER UM, NEIGHBORHOODS COULD [1:12:56] FOLLOW AROUND HELPING YOUR [1:12:59] FELLOW RESIDENTS KNOW AROUND [1:13:00] THE RIGHT PRACTICE. [1:13:00] I KNOW WE. [1:13:01] SHOULD SHOUT OUT ABOUT BEACON [1:13:02] HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION AS WELL [1:13:04] BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE GETTING [1:13:05] GOING WITH THEIR BLOCK CAPTAINS [1:13:07] PROGRAM AND UM, A LOT OF WORK [1:13:09] TO DO IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. [1:13:10] YEAH. [1:13:10] AND SO ALL OF THESE [1:13:11] EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT [1:13:12] THEY'RE SUBMITTING ARE [1:13:14] AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AS [1:13:15] WELL. [1:13:15] UM, AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE [1:13:16] PRACTICES RESIDENTS SHOULD [1:13:17] FOLLOW TO HELP PREVENT RATS. [1:13:18] THANK YOU. [1:13:20] UM, COUNCILOR MURPHY, YOU HAVE [1:13:22] YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. [1:13:23] YOU'RE UP. [1:13:24] THANK YOU. [1:13:24] CHAIR. [1:13:25] AND THANK YOU FOR CONVENING US. [1:13:27] THANK YOU FOR THE PANEL AND [1:13:30] ESPECIALLY TO THE RESIDENTS WHO [1:13:31] CAME IN PERSON AND ON ZOOM AND [1:13:35] I JUST LOOKING AROUND I SEE [1:13:36] PEOPLE FROM CHINATOWN, BACK [1:13:39] BAY, YOU KNOW, BAY VILLAGE BACK [1:13:41] HOME IN DORCHESTER, EAST BOSTON [1:13:42] . [1:13:42] IT'S IT'S A CITYWIDE ISSUE. [1:13:45] WE KNOW THAT. [1:13:46] AND WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE [1:13:48] COUNCIL WE WOULD SOMETIMES JOKE [1:13:50] THAT WHEN WE WOULD HAVE RAT [1:13:51] HEARINGS WE'D. [1:13:52] GET LIKE. [1:13:52] ALL THE. [1:13:53] COUNCIL TO. [1:13:53] SHOW UP LIKE THAT. [1:13:54] IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE [1:13:56] DEFINITELY DEAL WITH AND GET A [1:13:57] LOT OF CALLS FOR, BUT I'M GOING [1:14:00] TO KIND OF SHIFT WHAT MY [1:14:01] QUESTIONS WERE BASED ON WHAT I [1:14:02] HEARD FROM SOME OF THE [1:14:04] RESIDENTS. [1:14:04] UM, AND I DO THINK IT'S TIED [1:14:08] CLOSELY TO THE OTHER [1:14:10] DEPARTMENTS WHICH WAS SAID [1:14:11] ABOUT TRASH AND STUFF. [1:14:12] WE RECENTLY HAD A HEARING ON [1:14:14] TRASH PICKUP AND ALSO THE [1:14:18] CHANGE TO PICK UP THE GREEN [1:14:20] BUCKETS LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK [1:14:22] NOW WHICH I HEAR IS A CONCERN [1:14:24] PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED IS GOING [1:14:26] TO AFFECT BUT UM ONE MAN I'M [1:14:29] SORRY I FORGOT YOUR NAME BUT [1:14:30] YOU TALKED ABOUT THE CODE AND [1:14:32] HOW IT ALREADY IS STATING THE [1:14:33] THICKNESS OF THE BAG BECAUSE I [1:14:35] OFTEN TALK ABOUT MY STREET JOHN [1:14:37] I KNOW WE'VE DONE SEVERAL WALKS [1:14:39] ON MAN SENIOR LIGHT AND WEIGHT [1:14:41] AND SEVERAL OF THE APARTMENT [1:14:43] BUILDINGS DO PUT OUT THE BAGS [1:14:45] AND THE AMOUNT NO LIGHT IS LIKE [1:14:47] AS BIG AS THIS AND IT IS [1:14:49] SMALLER THAN KITCHEN BAGS. [1:14:52] I THOUGHT I HAD BEEN TOLD THAT [1:14:54] WHEN YOU STORE IT DURING THE [1:14:56] WEEK IT HAS TO BE IN [1:14:57] CARBON BARRELS BUT ONCE THE [1:14:59] TIME OPENS UP TO BRING TO THE [1:15:01] STREET TO THE SIDEWALK IT CAN [1:15:03] BE KIND OF IN ANYTHING. [1:15:05] IS IT TRUE OR IS IT SUPPOSED TO [1:15:09] BE IN LIKE THICKER TYPE BAGS? [1:15:11] YEAH. [1:15:12] SO IT'S IN. [1:15:13] PROPER STORAGE OF TRASH IF IT'S [1:15:14] NOT CONTAINERIZED UP TO 5:00 [1:15:18] TONIGHT BEFORE TRASH PICKUP AND [1:15:20] THEN ONCE TRASH PICKUP IS [1:15:22] ALLOWED TO GO OUT THEY'RE [1:15:23] ALLOWED TO PUT IT IN BAGS WHAT [1:15:24] THEY SHOULD BE AND I BELIEVE IN [1:15:27] THE CODE IT SAYS TWO PLY. [1:15:29] WHICH IS. [1:15:31] IS A CHECK. [1:15:33] UH NO IT'S THERE YEAH IT SHOULD [1:15:35] BE A THICKER UH PLASTIC THAN A [1:15:39] LIKE A REGULAR BAG. [1:15:40] YEAH. [1:15:41] SO WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THAT? [1:15:44] BECAUSE I KNOW JUST DONE. [1:15:46] LIKE MY. [1:15:47] ON. [1:15:47] THE. [1:15:48] STREET I GUESS I. [1:15:48] SHOULD CALL IT THAT NOW. [1:15:49] UM, IT'S. [1:15:51] UM IT'S JUST REGULAR KITCHEN [1:15:53] BAGS THAT ARE OPENING UP [1:15:54] WITHOUT EVEN ANY RODENTS OR [1:15:56] PEOPLE WALKING BY TRYING TO SEE [1:15:59] IF THEY CAN FIND OTHER YOU [1:16:00] KNOW. [1:16:01] YEAH. [1:16:02] SO, UH, WELL FOR [1:16:05] ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES WE DO [1:16:06] THE EDUCATION. [1:16:08] I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR [1:16:09] CODE ENFORCEMENT. [1:16:10] I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY ENFORCE [1:16:12] UM THAT UM BUT WE DO SPEND A [1:16:15] LOT OF EDUCATION ON TRYING TO [1:16:17] GET FOLKS NOT ONLY TO [1:16:19] CONTAINERIZE IF THEY CAN BUT [1:16:21] LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF TIME EVEN [1:16:23] IF YOU CAN PUT TRASH OUT AT [1:16:26] 5:00 THE NIGHT BEFORE THE LEAST [1:16:28] AMOUNT OF TIME THE TRASH SITS [1:16:30] ON THE SIDEWALK REDUCES THE [1:16:32] CHANCE IT'S GOING TO BE A FOOD [1:16:33] SOURCE. [1:16:33] OKAY, UM ALSO LEARNED YESTERDAY [1:16:38] THAT OUR NEW 311 SYSTEM HAS [1:16:40] GONE INTO EFFECT WITH THE WAY [1:16:42] THEY'RE COLLECTING INFORMATION [1:16:43] . [1:16:43] WE HAD A HEARING ON SIDEWALK [1:16:46] BLOCKING BIKE LANES AND [1:16:47] CROSSINGS. [1:16:48] WHAT TYPE OF NEW INFORMATION [1:16:50] HAVE YOU LEARNED YOU'LL BE [1:16:52] GETTING FROM THE NEW 311 SYSTEM [1:16:54] BASED ON THESE TYPES OF CALLS [1:16:55] THAT COME IN? [1:16:57] SO WE'VE HAD UH A COUPLE [1:16:59] TRAININGS I THINK UH. [1:17:02] ,NOVEMBER 4TH IS THE FULL [1:17:03] SWITCHOVER FOR FOR. [1:17:04] MY TEAM. [1:17:06] UM I THINK THAT THERE IS SOME [1:17:08] SIMILARITIES BETWEEN YOU KNOW, [1:17:10] OUR INSPECTORS CURRENTLY USE [1:17:11] CITY WORKER THEY'LL HAVE A VERY [1:17:14] SIMILAR UH, PROCESS WOULD [1:17:16] CREATE SHOW AND BEING. [1:17:18] UM BUT WE'LL HAVE MORE OPTIONS. [1:17:21] UM, THE THE VIEWS, THE MAPS UM [1:17:24] WE'LL HAVE MORE VISIBILITY ON [1:17:26] ON THE DIFFERENT KINDS [1:17:27] OF COMPLAINTS AND FOR ME AS THE [1:17:29] UM THE HEAD OF THE DEPARTMENT [1:17:31] I'LL HAVE MORE VISIBILITY ON ON [1:17:33] CLOSED COMPLAINTS AND THINGS [1:17:34] LIKE THAT. [1:17:35] OKAY. [1:17:36] THANK YOU. [1:17:37] UM, AND I'M JUST GOING TO [1:17:39] ASSUME BECAUSE YOU SAID IT IN [1:17:41] YOUR STATEMENTS TO THAT THAT'S [1:17:42] WHERE THEN YOU'LL. [1:17:44] BE. [1:17:44] PUTTING MORE RESOURCES IF WE [1:17:45] SEE THAT THERE'S HOTSPOTS THAT [1:17:47] ARE CONTINUING. [1:17:48] YEAH WITH THE HOT HOTSPOT MAP [1:17:51] IS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE [1:17:52] GOING TO WORK INTO OUR WORKFLOW [1:17:54] SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE [1:17:55] PROACTIVE IN IDENTIFYING [1:17:56] THROUGH THE DATA IN THE HOTSPOT [1:17:58] MAP. [1:17:59] AND I KNOW THAT TRACK TIME. [1:18:01] PICK UP AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT [1:18:02] UNDER ANYONE HERE PARTICULARLY [1:18:05] BUT EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD I KNOW [1:18:08] WISHES THAT THEY COULD GET YOU [1:18:10] KNOW THE FIRST PICK UP IN THE [1:18:12] MORNING AND TWICE A WEEK YOU [1:18:14] KNOW WOULD BE GREAT. [1:18:15] IT'S JUST EXPENSIVE. [1:18:17] ANY ANY JUST UNDERSTANDING ON [1:18:20] THAT WHEN RESIDENTS SAY LIKE [1:18:22] HOW COME WE CAN I MEAN I KNOW [1:18:25] IT'S ALWAYS USUALLY COMES DOWN [1:18:26] TO MONEY BUT. [1:18:27] YEAH I THINK IT'S A GREAT [1:18:29] QUESTION. [1:18:29] AND UM AS JOHN MENTIONED, YOU [1:18:31] KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE [1:18:32] THAT RESIDENTS KNOW THAT THE [1:18:33] CLOSURE THEY PUT THAT TRASH OUT [1:18:35] TO THE TIME OF COLLECTION UM [1:18:36] THE BETTER. [1:18:37] UM BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE [1:18:38] IDENTIFIED USING SOME OF THE [1:18:39] DATA TOOLS AND JUST EXPERIENCE [1:18:42] THAT, YOU KNOW, RODENT ACTIVITY [1:18:44] IS MOST PREVALENT UM, BETWEEN [1:18:46] THE HOURS OF AROUND, YOU KNOW, [1:18:49] 8 P.M. TO 5 A.M. UH, AND SO [1:18:50] USING THAT INFORMATION I THINK [1:18:52] THAT'S INFORMING SOME OF THESE [1:18:53] CHANGES THAT WE'RE CONTINUING [1:18:54] TO UH, LOOK AT WITH THE PUBLIC [1:18:56] WORKS DEPARTMENT, UH, TAKING [1:18:57] INTO SOME OF THE FEEDBACK [1:18:58] AROUND MAKING ADJUSTMENTS THAT [1:19:00] ALIGN WITH THE OPERATIONAL AND [1:19:01] FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE [1:19:02] FACING HERE IN THE CITY. [1:19:03] OKAY. [1:19:04] THANK YOU COUNCIL FLYNN I [1:19:05] JUST DID WANT TO NOT A QUESTION [1:19:06] BUT THANK YOU JOSH FOR BEING [1:19:08] HERE AND ALL YOU DO FOR THE BAY [1:19:10] AND I'LL REACH OUT PERSONALLY [1:19:11] IF. [1:19:12] THERE'S ANYTHING CONCERNS I'M [1:19:13] HEARING FROM RESIDENTS DIRECTLY [1:19:15] THANK YOU. [1:19:15] THANK YOU COUNCIL. [1:19:16] THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR. [1:19:18] THANK YOU COUNCIL MURPHY [1:19:20] COUNCIL ME HERE YOU'RE UP. [1:19:21] THANK YOU. [1:19:22] CHAIR AND I JUST. [1:19:23] WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE. [1:19:24] UH YOUR WORK. [1:19:25] IN THIS SPACE. [1:19:26] AND YOUR ADVOCACY FOR. [1:19:28] RATS ARE. [1:19:29] UM, FOR A LONG TIME NOW AND. [1:19:32] YOU'LL. [1:19:32] TALK MORE ABOUT. [1:19:33] IT. [1:19:33] DURING HIS TIME. [1:19:34] BUT FOR NOW. [1:19:36] UM. [1:19:37] I AM CURIOUS. [1:19:38] AND I REALLY DO. [1:19:39] APPRECIATE THE CLOROX UM. [1:19:41] COMMENT BEING AN IMMIGRANT [1:19:43] MYSELF. [1:19:44] UM. [1:19:45] CLEANING IS AN EVERYDAY [1:19:46] THING AND WE USE ALL TYPES [1:19:48] OF MATERIALS AND CLOROX. [1:19:50] IS. [1:19:50] DEFINITELY AND VICKS VICKS [1:19:52] FIXES EVERYTHING BUT UM I'M [1:19:55] JUST CURIOUS WHEN YOU. [1:19:56] HEAR SOME OF THE [1:19:58] RECOMMENDATIONS THAT UH. [1:19:59] YOU KNOW, THE THE FOLKS WHO ARE [1:20:01] HERE FOR PUBLIC TESTIMONY UM, [1:20:03] TALKED ABOUT SAME DAY SO HAVE [1:20:05] WE TRIED THAT PUTTING THE THE [1:20:08] GARBAGE OUT THE SAME DAY. [1:20:09] WE HAVEN'T. [1:20:10] MADE ANY OF THE CHANGES. [1:20:12] UH. [1:20:13] BASED ON ANY OF THE [1:20:13] RECOMMENDATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN [1:20:14] SAID TODAY, COUNSELOR, NO [1:20:16] CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE. [1:20:17] BUT I. [1:20:17] HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE I'M [1:20:19] GOING TO ASSUME THAT'S NOT THE [1:20:20] FIRST TIME YOU HEARD ABOUT [1:20:21] THESE RECOMMENDATIONS. [1:20:23] SO IN PREVIOUS ITERATIONS [1:20:24] OF THESE DISCUSSIONS, THOSE [1:20:27] RECOMMENDATIONS I'M GOING TO [1:20:28] ASSUME WERE MADE AND I'M [1:20:30] CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT [1:20:32] THOSE WERE CONSIDERED AND IF [1:20:34] NOT WHY? [1:20:36] OH SORRY I DIDN'T MEAN TO UM, [1:20:38] MISUNDERSTAND YOUR FIRST [1:20:39] QUESTION BUT YES, ALL OF THE [1:20:40] RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'VE [1:20:41] HEARD TODAY HAVE BEEN PART OF A [1:20:43] ROBUST COMMUNITY PROCESS THAT [1:20:44] WE'VE DONE OVER THE LAST YEAR. [1:20:45] UM, FOLKS LIKE ALLIE FOLEY, [1:20:47] OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS HAVE [1:20:48] GIVEN US A LOT OF REALLY GREAT [1:20:50] FEEDBACK, UH, AND WE'RE [1:20:51] ANALYZING MUCH OF THAT FEEDBACK [1:20:53] AND WORKING ON KIND [1:20:55] OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT ARE THE [1:20:56] OPERATIONAL AND. [1:20:56] FINANCIAL UH, FEASIBILITY FOR [1:20:58] US TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THOSE [1:21:00] CHANGES. [1:21:00] BUT AS I MENTIONED TO [1:21:01] COUNCILOR DURKAN, UM, PUBLIC [1:21:02] WORKS WOULD BE BETTER FIT TO [1:21:04] KIND OF EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE [1:21:05] LONG TERM STRATEGIES THAT [1:21:06] THEY'RE CONTINUING TO EXPLORE [1:21:07] BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT [1:21:08] WE'VE HEARD FROM OUR RESIDENTS. [1:21:09] YEAH, I ALWAYS SAY THIS IS THAT [1:21:11] BOSTON IS. [1:21:12] RESOURCE RICH BUT COORDINATION [1:21:14] POOR. [1:21:14] AND SO THE FACT THAT YOU'RE [1:21:18] DEFERRING TO PUBLIC WORKS HAVE [1:21:19] YOU BEEN IN COMMUNICATION WITH [1:21:21] THEM? [1:21:21] DO YOU GET UPDATES FROM THEM [1:21:24] LIKE DO YOU HAVE ANY STATUS [1:21:27] UPDATES THAT YOU CAN SHARE [1:21:28] ABOUT SOME OF THOSE OUTCOMES? [1:21:30] MOST DEFINITELY YEAH. [1:21:31] SO UM PUBLIC WORKS THE STREETS [1:21:34] CABINET UM IS A CRITICAL MEMBER [1:21:35] OF THE BOSTON ROAD AND ACTION [1:21:36] PLAN TEAM. [1:21:37] UH, THEY'RE PART OF THE [1:21:38] LEADERSHIP TEAM AND WE HAVE [1:21:39] FREQUENT CONVERSATIONS WITH [1:21:40] THEM AROUND UM, THESE CHANGES [1:21:42] AS WELL AS OTHER PILOT PROGRAMS [1:21:43] THAT WE CAN UH, WORK ON. [1:21:45] UM, AS I MENTIONED THAT YOU [1:21:46] KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO [1:21:48] SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THAT [1:21:48] DEPARTMENT FOR THE ROBUST [1:21:49] CHANGES THEY WANT TO MAKE AND. [1:21:51] HOW MANY CHANGES HAVE YOU [1:21:52] PILOTED ALREADY SINCE YOU'VE [1:21:54] INITIATED THIS? [1:21:56] UM, AS IT COMES TO TRASH, WE'VE [1:21:57] REALLY TAKEN TWO MAIN PILOT [1:21:59] APPROACHES ONE BEING THE WORK [1:22:01] AT THE FACILITY AS IT PERTAINS [1:22:03] TO RESIDENTIAL DUMPSTERS AND [1:22:04] CHANGING FROM UH, CITY PICKUP [1:22:06] TO COMMERCIAL LEVEL PICKUP. [1:22:07] WE'RE MEASURING THE IMPACTS [1:22:09] USING DATA COLLECTION TO SEE [1:22:10] WHAT THE IMPACT ACTUALLY IS [1:22:12] OF CHANGING THOSE [1:22:14] CONTAINERIZATION AT THE [1:22:15] COMMONWEALTH. [1:22:16] SIMILARLY, UM CONTAINERIZATION [1:22:17] OF TRASH IS IMPORTANT ACROSS [1:22:19] THE BOARD SMALLER BAG AND SO [1:22:20] WE'RE FOCUSING ON UH STREET [1:22:22] BARRELS AND PARKS BARRELS AND [1:22:24] CONTAINERIZED TRASH IN THOSE [1:22:25] LOCATIONS AS WELL AND MEASURING [1:22:26] THE IMPACT OF THAT. [1:22:27] UM, BECAUSE I THINK THOSE TWO [1:22:29] PILOT PROGRAMS AND THE RESULTS [1:22:30] OF THOSE WILL HELP INFORM SOME [1:22:31] OF THE LONG TERM STRATEGIES YOU [1:22:33] WANT TO FUND. [1:22:33] OKAY. [1:22:34] SO I'M CURIOUS. [1:22:36] A NEW YORK HAS THIS NEW KILLING [1:22:39] MACHINE. [1:22:40] I JUST READ IT ON THE NEW YORK [1:22:41] TIMES. [1:22:41] IT'S CALLED BOROUGH RCS. [1:22:43] HAVE YOU HEARD OF IT? [1:22:44] THEY TOOK IT FROM LAST YEAR. [1:22:46] ARE WE. [1:22:46] USING IT? [1:22:48] WE HAVE FOR FOR MANY YEARS NOW [1:22:50] UM WHEN WE ALSO HAD STRUGGLES [1:22:53] WITH THE DRY ICE AND GETTING [1:22:55] THE DRY ICE WE. [1:22:56] HERE I I'M THINKING I'M [1:22:58] BRINGING SOME I'M LIKE BUT. [1:23:00] IT'S A VERY EFFECTIVE MACHINE. [1:23:02] IT'S ALLOWED US TO. [1:23:03] REDUCE OUR RELIANCE ON [1:23:04] RODENTICIDE. [1:23:05] UM AND ARE. [1:23:06] WE STILL USING IT? [1:23:07] WE YES WE HAVE UH MULTIPLE [1:23:09] TEAMS. [1:23:09] WE ALSO WORKED WITH BJA TO [1:23:11] TRAIN THEIR STAFF ON THE [1:23:12] BOROUGH DIRECTION. [1:23:14] WE ALSO HAVE A CARBON DIOXIDE [1:23:16] TANK THAT WE ALSO. [1:23:17] SO CAN WE SEND IT TO BAY [1:23:19] VILLAGE. [1:23:19] COULD WE SEND IT TO SOME [1:23:20] OF THEM. [1:23:20] CAN WE SEND IT TO SOME OF THE [1:23:21] SPACES AND PLACES THAT HAVE [1:23:23] BEEN HERE? [1:23:23] YEAH WE'RE ALL OVER THE. [1:23:25] CITY UH USING THAT MACHINE. [1:23:26] ALL RIGHT. [1:23:27] I LIKE TO GO WITH YOU WHEN [1:23:29] YOU BRING THE MACHINE TO THE [1:23:30] TOWN. [1:23:31] UM. [1:23:31] ALL RIGHT. [1:23:33] SO ALL RIGHT, SO DO WE, UH. [1:23:35] SO ALI I BELIEVE SO. [1:23:36] RIGHT. [1:23:37] ALI, UM, TALKED ABOUT [1:23:38] THERE'S A HEAT MAP. [1:23:40] IS IT CITY? [1:23:41] UM, DO YOU. [1:23:43] GUYS RUN THIS BECAUSE I JUST. [1:23:45] GOOGLED IT AND I COULD NOT FIND [1:23:46] IT. [1:23:47] I'M NOT EXACTLY. [1:23:49] SURE WHAT MAP SHE WAS [1:23:50] REFERENCING. [1:23:51] WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT [1:23:52] MAPS. [1:23:52] ONE OF THEM IS THE PAN [1:23:53] NEIGHBORHOODS WHICH IS IN THE [1:23:54] BOSTON AN ACTION PLAN WHICH [1:23:56] COUNCILOR BRATTON REFERENCED. [1:23:57] WE ALSO HAVE THE HOTSPOT MODEL [1:23:58] WHICH SHOWS DIFFERENT MAPS [1:24:00] OF THROUGH ON ONE COMPLAINTS. [1:24:01] OKAY SO HERE'S. [1:24:02] MY QUESTION BECAUSE I'M GOING [1:24:03] TO. [1:24:03] COME. [1:24:04] BACK FOR A SECOND ROUND. [1:24:05] I AM. [1:24:05] CURIOUS ABOUT. [1:24:06] HOW WE ARE. [1:24:07] TRACKING THE OUTCOMES HERE. [1:24:09] HERE'S WHAT HERE ARE THE [1:24:10] INPUTS. [1:24:10] HERE'S WHAT WE'RE DOING. [1:24:11] HOW ARE WE MEASURING SUCCESS? [1:24:14] AND I LIKE WHEN SOMEBODY PUTS [1:24:16] IN A COMPLAINT HOW DO WE TRACK [1:24:18] THAT. [1:24:19] DO YOU KNOW THE INSPECTOR GOES [1:24:21] WHERE'S THE REPORT WHERE'S THE [1:24:23] TRANSPARENCY PIECE AROUND KIND [1:24:24] OF LIKE HOW WE CAN HOLD [1:24:25] OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT [1:24:27] WE'RE LEARNING. [1:24:27] WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE ON [1:24:29] YOUR END? [1:24:29] SO I THINK I WOULD I'M HAPPY TO [1:24:31] ANSWER THE FIRST. [1:24:31] PART AND LET JOHN SPEAK TO [1:24:33] THE UM INSPECTION PIECE. [1:24:34] SO WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IN TERMS [1:24:36] OF KIND OF MEASURING IMPACTS [1:24:37] OF SOME OF THE DIFFERENT PILOT [1:24:38] PROGRAMS IS THAT'S WHY WE'RE [1:24:40] WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH [1:24:41] ANALYTICS TO USE DIFFERENT DATA [1:24:43] . [1:24:43] COLLECTION TOOLS. [1:24:44] WHAT WE DO IS WE COLLECT A [1:24:46] BASELINE AT A SITE SO BASELINE [1:24:47] ROAD AND POPULATION THEN WE [1:24:49] DEPLOY A MITIGATION TOOL [1:24:51] WHETHER THAT BE A BARREL TOPPER [1:24:53] OR A NEW DUMPSTER AT THE [1:24:55] COMMONWEALTH SITE OR WHETHER IT [1:24:57] BE USING THE BOROUGH RECS [1:24:58] MACHINE. [1:24:58] AND THEN AFTER WE DO. [1:25:00] THAT INTERVENTION AND DEPLOY. [1:25:01] THAT INTERVENTION, WE CONTINUE [1:25:02] TO COLLECT. [1:25:03] DATA AND MEASURE THE. [1:25:04] IMPACT OF THE SUCCESSFUL NESS [1:25:05] OF THAT DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAT [1:25:07] WILL HELP US BETTER UNDERSTAND [1:25:09] WHICH TOOL AND WHICH SOLUTION [1:25:10] IS MOST EFFECTIVE. [1:25:11] IS THAT PUBLIC INFORMATION. [1:25:13] SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE CONTINUING. [1:25:15] TO COLLECT THE DATA ON ALL [1:25:16] OF THESE DIFFERENT TOOLS. [1:25:17] OUR GOAL IS TO PUT TOGETHER A [1:25:19] COMPREHENSIVE REPORT THAT WOULD [1:25:20] BE PUBLIC ON OUR WEBSITE [1:25:21] SHOWING KIND OF THE IMPACT [1:25:22] OF SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT [1:25:23] TOOLS AND STRATEGIES THAT [1:25:24] WOULD. [1:25:24] BE REALLY HELP. [1:25:25] AND JOHN CAN SPEAK TO. [1:25:25] ENFORCEMENT AND THEN. [1:25:26] WHEN WE GET A COMPLAINT. [1:25:28] IT COMES THROUGH THE 311 [1:25:30] SYSTEM. [1:25:30] UM THEY GET A RESPONSE ON THE [1:25:33] INSPECTION. [1:25:34] SO IF YOU'RE WELL IF YOU USE [1:25:35] THE APP IF YOU CALL YOU SHOULD [1:25:37] SAVE THE CASE NUMBER. [1:25:38] SO YOU CALL BACK AND GET A [1:25:40] RESPONSE ON WHAT THE. [1:25:42] NOTES WERE. [1:25:42] FROM THE INSPECTOR. [1:25:43] SO THAT GOES BACK. [1:25:44] BUT IF A VIOLATION IS WRITTEN A [1:25:46] CASE IS CREATED. [1:25:47] IT'S A WRITTEN. [1:25:48] VIOLATION SERVED BY A [1:25:50] CONSTABLE. [1:25:51] THERE IS A PREMISE REPORT. [1:25:53] SO EVERY TIME AN INSPECTOR DOES [1:25:55] AN INSPECTION HE WRITES A UH [1:25:57] PREMISE REPORT. [1:25:58] OF. [1:25:58] WHAT IT'S FINDING AND. [1:25:59] HOW MUCH MONEY ARE WE CHARGING [1:26:00] FOLKS? [1:26:01] WE DON'T WE? [1:26:02] IT'S NOT A FINE. [1:26:03] IT'S A. [1:26:03] REMEDIAL. [1:26:04] UH. [1:26:04] WE NEED TO. [1:26:05] START FINDING PEOPLE. [1:26:06] SO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT IS THE [1:26:08] PUNITIVE UH, SIDE SO WE WORK [1:26:11] CLOSELY WITH THEM IF THERE IS [1:26:12] UH, AN ISSUE THAT UH SOMETIMES [1:26:15] USING. [1:26:16] BOTH SO. [1:26:17] THE IMMEDIATE PUNITIVE. [1:26:18] FINE AND THEN THE REMEDIAL. [1:26:20] VIOLATION UH VIOLATIONS END UP [1:26:22] IN HOUSING COURT. [1:26:23] SO IT'S NOT. [1:26:24] JUST A TICKET WE WRITE A. [1:26:25] VIOLATION WE. [1:26:25] SERVED BY A CONSTABLE. [1:26:27] UM, AND THEN IF IT'S NOT [1:26:29] CORRECTED AFTER. [1:26:30] THE MULTIPLE TIMES. [1:26:31] WE GIVE A CHANCE. [1:26:32] AFTER RE INSPECTIONS. [1:26:34] IT'S SENT TO. [1:26:35] HOUSING COURT. [1:26:36] TO, UH, GET A RESOLUTION. [1:26:38] AND THAT TIME AS A THANK. [1:26:39] YOU THAT CAN. [1:26:40] UM NEXT UP, UH, [1:26:43] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE COUNCIL YOU [1:26:44] HAVE THE FLOOR. [1:26:45] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. [1:26:46] AND I JUST LIKE TO NOTE MOST [1:26:47] OF. [1:26:47] THE THINGS THAT NEW YORK [1:26:48] DOES. [1:26:48] THEY COPY FROM US. [1:26:49] OKAY. [1:26:50] UM AND SO I WANT. [1:26:52] TO THANK THIS PANEL. [1:26:53] FOR BEING HERE. [1:26:54] UM. [1:26:55] I WANT TO THANK. [1:26:57] UH WE. [1:26:58] SO I'M GONNA. [1:26:59] WE JUST. [1:27:00] HOSTED, UH, RAP SUMMIT AND I [1:27:02] LOVE THIS IS A SECOND MATT [1:27:03] SUMMIT THAT EVER HAS HAPPENED. [1:27:05] THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE [1:27:06] HOSTED IN BOSTON. [1:27:08] I I KNOW THAT I MISSED THE, UH, [1:27:10] BEGINNING OF THIS AND SO I [1:27:12] WOULD LOVE TO KNOW TOP LINES [1:27:16] WHAT WE LEARNED LIKE WHAT WERE [1:27:18] THE TOP LINE FROM THAT? [1:27:20] SORRY IF I MISSED THAT. [1:27:20] I WANT TO THANK ALL THE [1:27:21] ADVOCATES AND EVERYONE FOR [1:27:22] COMING OUT. [1:27:22] THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH WORK DONE [1:27:24] BY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL IN [1:27:25] TERMS OF LIKE HOW ARE WE [1:27:27] DEALING WITH THIS VERY [1:27:28] IMPORTANT QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE [1:27:29] THAT WE GET FROM ALL OF OUR [1:27:31] RESIDENTS? [1:27:32] UH MY BIRTHDAY WE WERE HERE A [1:27:33] FEW YEARS AGO TALKING ABOUT [1:27:35] SOMETHING LIKE BIRTH CONTROL. [1:27:36] WHICH WE. [1:27:37] WORKED WITH A LOCAL [1:27:38] NONPROFIT AND WE DID A PILOT IN [1:27:40] UH JAMAICA PLAIN AND SORT [1:27:42] OF FOLLOWED THAT AND HUNTED [1:27:43] THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SEE [1:27:45] THAT THE RESULTS WERE NOT WHERE [1:27:47] WE WANTED THEM TO BE, BUT WE'RE [1:27:48] PART OF IT. [1:27:49] I KNOW WHEN I WAS UH BEFORE THE [1:27:51] BEACON HEALTH CIVIC ASSOCIATION [1:27:53] ,ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I [1:27:54] HEARD THERE WAS MIC LACED TRASH [1:27:56] CANS AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'VE [1:27:57] SORT OF DONE ANY WORK EXPLORING [1:27:59] LOOKING INTO THAT. [1:28:00] UM, I KNOW ONE OF THE THINGS IT [1:28:03] IS CARBON MONOXIDE AND SO OUR [1:28:04] INCREASED USAGE OF THAT UM. [1:28:07] THIS COUNCIL HAS THOUGHT A LOT [1:28:09] ABOUT CONTAINERIZATION AND WHAT [1:28:10] THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. [1:28:12] WE'VE TALKED ABOUT COLLAPSIBLE [1:28:13] BINS. [1:28:13] WHERE DO WE STAND WITH [1:28:15] COLLAPSIBLE BINS? [1:28:17] UM AND ALSO I'D LOVE TO KNOW IF [1:28:19] OUR UH COMPOST BINS CURRENTLY [1:28:23] IF THEY ARE RODENT RESISTANT. [1:28:25] UM ARE THEY VERSION RESISTANT? [1:28:28] YES THEY I HAVEN'T GOT A REPORT [1:28:30] THAT A RAT UM SINCE THE [1:28:31] BEGINNING OF THE PROGRAM. [1:28:33] YOU KNOW WE WE MET AT THE [1:28:34] BEGINNING OF IT TO LOOK AT THE [1:28:36] BARREL AND AND WE THOUGHT IT [1:28:37] WAS A. [1:28:38] GOOD UM A GOOD BARREL TO. [1:28:40] TO STORE FOOD IN. [1:28:41] AND I HAVEN'T HAD ONE REPORT [1:28:43] OF OF A RECKONING AND INSIDE. [1:28:45] OKAY. [1:28:46] THANK YOU I THINK EXPANSION [1:28:47] OF THAT OF OUR COMPOSTING WOULD [1:28:49] HELP TO ALSO REDUCE THE RAT [1:28:51] LIKE IT WHEN DONE CORRECTLY [1:28:53] WOULD HELP TO REDUCE OUR LEVEL [1:28:55] OF RODENT ACTIVITY. [1:28:56] UM WE ALSO HAD A HEARING A FEW [1:28:58] WEEKS AGO WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT [1:28:59] PROJECT OSCAR UM AND WE SAW [1:29:01] WHERE THERE WERE PROJECT OSCAR [1:29:02] THERE IT WAS NOTICEABLE THAT IN [1:29:04] MATTAPAN UH A NEIGHBORHOOD I [1:29:05] THINK HAS BEEN HE WAS TALKING [1:29:07] ABOUT IT WHERE A LOT OF THE [1:29:08] COMPOSTING AND RECYCLING IN [1:29:10] COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY BLACK [1:29:11] COMMUNITIES ESPECIALLY [1:29:11] IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES ACTUALLY [1:29:12] HAPPENS NATURALLY. [1:29:14] SO THERE'S GOOD SYNERGY THERE. [1:29:15] I THINK FOR US TO REALLY MAKE [1:29:17] SURE THAT WE'RE PUTTING A [1:29:18] PROJECT OSCAR IN A PLACE IN [1:29:19] MATTAPAN THAT PEOPLE CAN USE. [1:29:21] SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE [1:29:22] THAT YOU'RE TALKING WITH CHIEF [1:29:24] OSCAR AND WE'VE BEEN EMAILING [1:29:25] EMAILING ABOUT IT BUT JUST [1:29:26] WANTED TO UPLIFT THAT AS WELL. [1:29:28] UM, AND I JUST ALSO JUST WANT [1:29:30] TO GIVE A. [1:29:30] HUGE. [1:29:31] HUGE SHOUT OUT TO JOHN YORK [1:29:33] AND YOUR TEAM LIKE WE CALL YOU [1:29:36] NEIGHBORS CALL YOU LIKE WE DID [1:29:38] A RAP. [1:29:38] WE WERE OUT IN HYDE PARK FOR A [1:29:40] RAP WALK ON MONDAY. [1:29:41] UM WE DID ONE TWO WEEKS AGO. [1:29:43] SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR [1:29:45] YOUR RESPONSIVENESS WHENEVER WE [1:29:46] DO HAVE UH, RODENT ISSUES. [1:29:47] UM, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE [1:29:49] ANY RESIDENTS THAT DO HAVE AN [1:29:50] AREA A CONCENTRATION WITH A LOT [1:29:51] OF RODENT ACTIVITY. [1:29:52] WE'D BE HAPPY TO CONTINUE DOING [1:29:54] RAT WALKS. [1:29:55] EMILY. [1:29:55] IN MY OFFICE WE WE DO THEM ALL [1:29:57] THE TIME ALONGSIDE YOUR OFFICE. [1:29:58] SO JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR [1:30:00] THAT AND I GUESS THE THE MAIN [1:30:02] QUESTION IS WHAT IS IT THAT WE [1:30:04] LEARNED FROM THE FROM THE RAT [1:30:05] SUMMIT AND ARE THERE CITIES [1:30:07] THAT ARE DOING INNOVATIVE WORK [1:30:08] THAT WE AREN'T DOING THAT WE [1:30:10] SHOULD BE DOING? [1:30:11] YEAH. [1:30:11] THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THESE [1:30:13] QUESTIONS AND I'LL GET ON THE [1:30:14] RAT SUMMIT PIECE BUT JUST WANT [1:30:15] TO HIGHLIGHT THE PROJECT OSCAR [1:30:16] PIECE. [1:30:17] SO IN ADDITION TO REPLACING ALL [1:30:18] OF THE BARRELS UH IN MATTAPAN [1:30:20] SQUARE WITH RODENT RESISTANT [1:30:21] BINS UM I KNOW YOU AND CHIEF [1:30:23] OUTGOING HAVE BEEN TALKING [1:30:23] ABOUT THIS, BUT WE'RE ALSO [1:30:24] WORKING ON A NEW PROJECT OSCAR [1:30:26] SITE FOR MATTAPAN AS WELL. [1:30:27] UM, SO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT [1:30:28] THAT FIRST BUT UH, AS YOU [1:30:30] MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE REASON [1:30:31] THAT BOSTON WAS SELECTED AS THE [1:30:33] SECOND, YOU KNOW, LOCATION FOR [1:30:35] THE NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT IS [1:30:36] BECAUSE A LOT OF THE INNOVATIVE [1:30:38] WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN [1:30:39] THE CITY AND A LOT OF THE [1:30:40] PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING AS [1:30:42] IT COMPARES TO MANY OF OUR [1:30:43] OTHER CITIES NATIONWIDE. [1:30:44] AND SO WHAT HAPPENED, UH, ON [1:30:46] THE 23RD AND 24TH OF SEPTEMBER [1:30:48] WAS OVER 100 DIFFERENT ACADEMIC [1:30:50] CITIES. [1:30:51] UH, RESEARCH PROFESSIONALS CAME [1:30:52] TO BOSTON AND THE GOAL WAS [1:30:53] REALLY SHARE AND EDUCATE. [1:30:55] UM, SO WE HAD A LOT [1:30:57] OF EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES [1:30:57] AND THINGS WE TOOK AWAY, BUT WE [1:30:59] ALSO HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO [1:31:00] SHARE A LOT OF THE WORK THAT [1:31:01] WE'RE DOING. [1:31:01] UH, AND IT WAS AN OPPORTUNITY [1:31:03] TO ALSO MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENT [1:31:04] CONNECTIONS WITH OTHER CITIES [1:31:05] THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO TALK TO [1:31:07] SUCH AS SEATTLE, UM, FOLKS IN [1:31:08] CALIFORNIA ABOUT WORK THAT [1:31:10] THEY'RE DOING THAT WE CAN [1:31:11] IMPLEMENT HERE IN THE CITY [1:31:12] OF BOSTON. [1:31:13] SOME OF. [1:31:13] THE KEY TAKEAWAYS TO GET [1:31:14] DIRECTLY TO YOUR QUESTION IS [1:31:16] THAT, YOU KNOW, CITIES ARE [1:31:17] CITIES. [1:31:17] CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY FACE [1:31:18] A SIMILAR CHALLENGE. [1:31:19] UM. [1:31:20] YOU KNOW, OLD INFRASTRUCTURE, [1:31:22] ABUNDANCE OF FOOD, PLACES FOR [1:31:23] RATS TO HIDE. [1:31:24] UH, AND WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS [1:31:25] ON THOSE THREE AREAS TO HELP [1:31:27] REDUCE RODENT POPULATION. [1:31:28] UM, WE'VE HEARD THAT RATS ARE [1:31:30] CONTINUING TO BE A PUBLIC [1:31:31] HEALTH ISSUE AND WHY IT'S [1:31:32] REALLY IMPORTANT FOR CITIES TO [1:31:34] TAKE THIS PROACTIVE APPROACH TO [1:31:36] ADDRESS, UM, RODENT. [1:31:37] POPULATIONS BUT ALSO FOCUS ON [1:31:39] SANITATION AS MANY OF THE [1:31:40] COMMUNITY RESIDENTS HAVE SAID [1:31:41] HERE TODAY. [1:31:42] UM, AND. [1:31:42] I THINK ANOTHER REALLY. [1:31:43] BIG FOCUS UH, WAS THAT YOU [1:31:45] KNOW, WE NEED TO FOCUS ON RAT [1:31:47] POPULATIONS NOT ONLY ON THE [1:31:48] SURFACE BUT ALSO IN SUBSURFACE [1:31:49] POPULATIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE [1:31:51] REALLY FOCUSED NEXT KIND OF SIX [1:31:53] MONTHS ON, UM, HOW DO WE [1:31:54] ADDRESS RODENT POPULATIONS IN [1:31:55] THE SEWER SYSTEM AND BETTER [1:31:57] UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THOSE [1:31:58] CHALLENGES? [1:31:59] AND JUST LASTLY, I THINK THE [1:32:00] MAIN THING WE TOOK AWAY FROM [1:32:01] FROM THE SUMMIT WAS A LOT [1:32:03] OF THE DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS AND [1:32:04] STRATEGIES AND TOOLS THAT WERE [1:32:05] DISCUSSED WHERE A LOT OF THE [1:32:07] THINGS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE [1:32:08] HERE IN PLACE UH, AND THAT [1:32:10] WE'RE WORKING ON EXPANDING UH, [1:32:11] AND SO I THINK IT WAS A REALLY [1:32:12] GOOD REFLECTION MOMENT FOR US [1:32:13] TO SHARE OUT UM, BUT ALSO LEARN [1:32:15] KIND OF THINGS THAT WE SHOULD [1:32:16] CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON GOING [1:32:17] FORWARD. [1:32:17] THANK YOU. [1:32:18] AND AND I THINK IT'S REALLY [1:32:19] SMART TO HAVE IT AS A DATA [1:32:20] DRIVEN I KNOW THERE'S MORE [1:32:21] CAMERAS. [1:32:22] THANK YOU JOE FOR THE WORK THAT [1:32:23] YOU'RE DOING. [1:32:23] THANK YOU TO BJ FOR THE WORK [1:32:24] YOU'RE DOING. [1:32:25] I THINK IT'S REALLY UH THE [1:32:26] CAMERAS HOPEFULLY WILL BE [1:32:27] HELPFUL THE MIDDLE EAST AND THE [1:32:29] MIDDLE EAST AND THAT'S. [1:32:31] SO WE HAVE IT. [1:32:32] THE ONLY. [1:32:32] THING THAT. [1:32:33] I KNOW I'VE WE'VE TALKED [1:32:33] ABOUT THIS AND YOU'RE NOT YOU [1:32:34] DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS I. [1:32:36] WE HAVEN'T. [1:32:36] SEEN IT WORK. [1:32:37] UM YEAH YEAH AND. [1:32:39] I TALKED TO DOCTOR. [1:32:40] CORRIGAN AND SOME OF THE OTHER. [1:32:41] UH, PROFESSIONALS. [1:32:42] UM IT IS. [1:32:43] IT IS WIDELY. [1:32:45] MARKETED AS AS A TOOL. [1:32:47] THE ONLY. [1:32:47] THING THAT WE'VE. [1:32:48] SEEN THAT WORKS ON BARRELS IS [1:32:50] USING, UH, 10% BLEACH AND WATER [1:32:53] AND SPRITZING THE BARRELS, UH, [1:32:56] SPRITZING TRASH BAGS. [1:32:58] THAT'S THE BEST DETERRENT. [1:33:00] UM, RATS REALLY DON'T LIKE IT [1:33:01] BUT. [1:33:02] MEANT. [1:33:03] UM, YOU KNOW, THERE. [1:33:04] WAS A STUDY DONE. [1:33:06] UM, AND UH, THE FOLKS THAT I [1:33:09] HAVE TALKED TO UH, NOT REALLY [1:33:10] IMPRESSED AND HAVEN'T SEEN IT [1:33:12] WORK. [1:33:12] THANK YOU. [1:33:13] THANK YOU JOHN. [1:33:14] THANK YOU TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM [1:33:14] AND FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO [1:33:15] APPRECIATE THANK. [1:33:15] YOU. [1:33:16] THANK YOU. [1:33:17] UH, NEXT UP IS UM WE'RE ALSO [1:33:20] UM, HAVE BEEN JOINED BY CITY [1:33:23] COUNCIL BRIAN. [1:33:23] WORLD BRIAN WORLD EUROPE. [1:33:25] UH THANK YOU CHAIR AND THANK [1:33:27] YOU FOR. [1:33:28] HOLDING THIS HEARING AND YOUR [1:33:29] LEADERSHIP ON THIS MATTER. [1:33:30] AND I KNOW A LOT OF MY OTHER [1:33:31] COUNCIL COLLEAGUES HAVE UH, [1:33:33] DOVE INTO UM, UM, THIS MATTER [1:33:36] AS WELL. [1:33:37] SO JUST THANK YOU TO ALL MY [1:33:38] COLLEAGUES AS WELL. [1:33:39] UM. [1:33:40] WHEN IT COMES TO. [1:33:41] FIRST I WANT TO SHOUT OUT JOHN [1:33:42] YOUR OWN ENTIRE TEAM BOBBY IS A [1:33:45] ROCK STAR IN THE COMMUNITY. [1:33:47] UM, WOULD. [1:33:49] HOW I. [1:33:50] AND I WOULD LOVE TO ADVOCATE [1:33:53] FOR, YOU KNOW, US TO KEEP OUR [1:33:55] TECHNICIANS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD [1:33:56] FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME [1:33:58] BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS [1:33:59] THAT DO THEY ROTATE? [1:34:01] YES. [1:34:02] OKAY. [1:34:02] YEAH. [1:34:03] YEAH, THE WARDS ROTATE. [1:34:05] UM IT'S NOT ON A SPECIFIC. [1:34:06] SCHEDULE BUT IT'S USUALLY [1:34:08] YEARLY OKAY. [1:34:09] THEY THEY MOVE AROUND SOME [1:34:10] INSPECT TO STAY UM, BUT UH [1:34:13] SOMETIMES. [1:34:14] JUST STAFFING NEEDS AND YOU [1:34:16] KNOW, PEOPLE GO OUT UM SO IT'S [1:34:18] JUST THAT'S THAT'S REALLY WHAT. [1:34:20] IT IS. [1:34:20] GOT IT. [1:34:21] UM. [1:34:22] WE WANT TO ADVOCATE TO KEEP [1:34:24] BOBBY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD JUST [1:34:25] BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE [1:34:26] STRATEGIES THAT ARE, UM, [1:34:28] WORKING RIGHT. [1:34:30] AND WHEN THE STRATEGIES ARE [1:34:31] WORKING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A [1:34:32] NEW TECHNICIAN COME IN AND [1:34:34] IMPLEMENT A NEW STRATEGY AND [1:34:35] NOT KNOW. [1:34:36] UM, AND I'M SURE THAT THEY PASS [1:34:38] NOTES BUT UM, I THINK WHEN [1:34:39] WE'RE KEEPING IT CONSISTENT [1:34:41] WITH ONE TECHNICIAN UH, THAT [1:34:43] STRATEGY CAN, YOU KNOW, [1:34:44] CONTINUE TO WORK AND NOT TRY TO [1:34:46] DEVIATE FROM IT. [1:34:47] UM, WHEN. [1:34:48] WHEN THERE'S RAT PROBLEMS ARE [1:34:50] ANY OF THESE AREAS DO THEY [1:34:53] TRANSITION OVER TO THE PROBLEM [1:34:54] PROPERTY TASK FORCE OR IS [1:34:57] PUBLIC PROPERTY JUST SOLELY [1:34:59] LIKE NOISE COMPLAINTS POLICE [1:35:01] COMPLAINTS OR DOES IT INCLUDE, [1:35:02] YOU KNOW, RAT ISSUES AS WELL? [1:35:04] I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK A LITTLE [1:35:05] BIT. [1:35:06] TO THIS. [1:35:06] SO THE. [1:35:07] PROBLEM PROPERTIES. [1:35:07] TASK FORCE IS UM. [1:35:09] A COMPREHENSIVE ORGANIZATION [1:35:10] THAT FOCUSES ON ALL. [1:35:12] QUALITY OF LIFE. [1:35:12] CHALLENGES UM LOUD PARTIES OR [1:35:15] RAT COMPLAINTS. [1:35:16] AND SO JOHN AND. [1:35:17] HIS TEAM AS WELL AS MYSELF WE. [1:35:19] SIT ON THE MONTHLY PROBLEM [1:35:20] PROPERTIES TASK FORCE MEETINGS [1:35:21] AND ANY PROPERTY THAT HAS. [1:35:23] A, YOU KNOW, PROLONGED. [1:35:25] RODENT CHALLENGE THAT WE COULD [1:35:26] USE SOME ASSISTANCE FROM THE. [1:35:27] OPERATIONS TEAM ON. [1:35:28] WE UPLIFT THAT ADDRESS AND [1:35:30] THEN. [1:35:30] WORK TOGETHER. [1:35:31] WITH THE OTHER DIVISIONS [1:35:31] THERE TO ADDRESS THAT [1:35:32] CHALLENGE. [1:35:33] AWESOME. [1:35:33] AND WHEN IT COMES I KNOW A [1:35:35] LOT OF OUR RAT ISSUES ARE ON [1:35:37] THE EXTERIOR. [1:35:38] UM, AND SOMETIMES YOU KNOW WHEN [1:35:40] I'M TALKING HOMES OR YOU KNOW, [1:35:41] PROPERTIES WHERE UH BOBBY YOU [1:35:44] COULD SEE LIKE AN INFESTATION, [1:35:47] RIGHT? [1:35:48] WHAT WHAT WARRANT US TO THEN [1:35:50] DECIDE TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT [1:35:52] THE INSIDE. [1:35:54] SO WE WE WOULD NEED PERMISSION. [1:35:56] EITHER BY A TENANT OR THE OWNER [1:35:59] TO ACCESS THE PROPERTY. [1:36:00] UM, IF WE. [1:36:01] BELIEVE THAT THE RODENT [1:36:03] PROBLEMS ARE INSIDE THE [1:36:05] BUILDING, WE WOULD REFER [1:36:07] REFERRED TO, UH, ENFORCEMENT [1:36:09] INVESTIGATION TEAM AT I AND [1:36:10] STEVE FLAVIO. [1:36:11] UM, AND THEY WOULD TRY TO GAIN [1:36:14] ACCESS THE UH ENFORCEMENT AN [1:36:16] INVESTIGATION TEAM HAS A [1:36:17] BUILDING INSPECTOR, A HOUSING [1:36:19] INSPECTOR, AN ENVIRONMENTAL [1:36:20] INSPECTOR. [1:36:21] UM, FLAVIO WAS THE THE DIRECTOR [1:36:23] AND SO THEY WORK. [1:36:24] ON COMPLICATED ISSUES, UM, [1:36:26] ACCESSING PROPERTY BORDERS AND [1:36:29] STUFF LIKE THAT. [1:36:30] SO WE WOULD REFER TO. [1:36:31] THAT TEAM TO SEE IF WE COULD [1:36:33] GET ACCESS TO TO THE INSIDE. [1:36:34] AWESOME. [1:36:35] AND THEN UH, ANOTHER PROGRAM [1:36:37] UM THAT I'M A BIG FAN OF IS [1:36:39] GRAFFITI BUSTERS. [1:36:40] UM, BUT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO UH, [1:36:42] WORK ON PRIVATE PROPERTY UH, [1:36:44] WHERE MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE'RE [1:36:46] NOT. [1:36:47] ABLE TO DO WORK ON PRIVATE [1:36:48] PROPERTY. [1:36:49] WE PASSED THAT RESPONSIBILITY [1:36:51] OFF TO THE, UH, LANDLORD. [1:36:53] HOW DO WE GAIN THAT SAME, UM, [1:36:56] ACCESS OR THE SAME UM. [1:37:00] SO THE THE CHALLENGE IS. [1:37:02] THAT, UM. [1:37:03] WHAT WE ARE. [1:37:05] ABLE TO DO. [1:37:07] WE IT TAKES MORE. [1:37:09] THAN, UH, DOING PRIVATE [1:37:11] PROPERTIES FOR PEST CONTROL. [1:37:13] SO. [1:37:14] UM, IN AN ISSUE. [1:37:15] WHERE IT'S, UH, A SAFETY. [1:37:17] ISSUE. [1:37:18] WE MIGHT BE. [1:37:19] ABLE TO. [1:37:20] DO A. [1:37:20] TREATMENT ONCE. [1:37:21] OKAY. [1:37:21] UM, BUT WHAT THEY WOULD. [1:37:23] STILL NEED PEST CONTROL. [1:37:25] BECAUSE IT TAKES MULTIPLE AND [1:37:26] THEY REALLY NEED A, UH, LICENSE [1:37:29] TAG TO MANAGE IT. [1:37:30] GOT IT. [1:37:31] UM, AND. [1:37:33] UM, I KNOW EVERY BUILDING OR [1:37:36] EVERY THAT THERE WAS A TRASH [1:37:38] PLANT ORDINANCE FOR. [1:37:40] UM. [1:37:41] I CAN'T REMEMBER. [1:37:42] I THINK IT WAS LIKE LARGE [1:37:43] COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. [1:37:44] IT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE LIKE A [1:37:45] TRASH PLAN. [1:37:45] UH. [1:37:46] DO WE KNOW IF LIKE WE AT IN [1:37:49] TERMS OF DOES EVERY BUILDING [1:37:51] HAVE A TRASH TRASH PLAN? [1:37:54] SO I'M NOT VERY FAMILIAR WITH [1:37:56] THE THE CHANCELLOR BUT I THINK [1:37:57] WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU ON. [1:37:58] THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. [1:37:59] ALL RIGHT. [1:37:59] AND UH. [1:38:01] UH AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS [1:38:03] UH, LUKE, YOU SPOKE. [1:38:05] ON UM, A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT [1:38:06] THAT'S GOING TO BE UPLOADED [1:38:08] ONLINE. [1:38:08] WELL, WHAT IS THE TIMELINE? [1:38:09] YEAH. [1:38:10] GREAT QUESTION. [1:38:11] SO UM, RIGHT NOW. [1:38:12] WE'RE TRYING TO. [1:38:13] KIND OF MEASURE. [1:38:14] SEASONALITY IMPACTS. [1:38:16] AND SO RIGHT NOW OVER THE. [1:38:17] WINTER WE'RE GOING TO BE [1:38:18] GETTING DATA ON UM. [1:38:19] SUBSURFACE POPULATIONS IN THE [1:38:21] SEWERS. [1:38:21] WE'RE INSTALLING. [1:38:22] AUDIO DEVICES AND DATA [1:38:23] COLLECTION. [1:38:23] TOOLS IN THE NORTH END IN THE [1:38:25] SOUTH AND SOUTH BOSTON IN THE [1:38:26] COMING WEEKS. [1:38:27] UM. [1:38:27] AND THEN AS THE TEMPERATURES [1:38:28] . [1:38:29] RISE UH, IN THE SPRING PROBABLY [1:38:31] LIKE UM LATE MARCH, EARLY APRIL [1:38:33] WILL. [1:38:34] DEPLOY ANOTHER ROUND OF THE [1:38:35] SURFACE SENSORS TO MEASURE. [1:38:37] THE IMPACTS AT THE [1:38:38] COMMONWEALTH. [1:38:38] UH, AND THEN. [1:38:39] AFTER THAT DATA COLLECTION AND [1:38:41] ANALYSIS WILL PRODUCE. [1:38:42] A REPORT UM, SOMETIME [1:38:43] HOPEFULLY BY THE SUMMER OF NEXT [1:38:45] YEAR. [1:38:45] ALL RIGHT. [1:38:46] THANK YOU AND THANK YOU ALL [1:38:48] FOR ALWAYS BEING SUPER [1:38:49] RESPONSIVE AND SHOUT OUT TO [1:38:51] EACH OF YOUR TEAMS AND UH ALSO [1:38:53] SHOUT OUT TO MY GUY BOBBY. [1:38:56] THANK YOU THANK. [1:38:57] YOU. [1:38:58] THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL. [1:39:00] UM I'M ALSO GOING TO TAKE FIVE [1:39:02] MINUTES I'LL MAKE SURE I KEEP [1:39:04] MYSELF UM UNDER THAT TIME AS [1:39:06] WELL. [1:39:13] I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE [1:39:14] ADMINISTRATION PANEL FOR BEING [1:39:15] HERE. [1:39:16] I ESPECIALLY WANT TO SAY THANK [1:39:17] YOU TO THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE [1:39:19] TESTIFIED IN PERSON AND IN ZOOM [1:39:22] AS WELL. [1:39:23] LISTENING TO THE PUBLIC [1:39:24] TESTIMONY MAKES IT A BETTER [1:39:26] HEARING BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND [1:39:28] EXACTLY THE CONCERNS FROM [1:39:30] RESIDENTS. [1:39:31] I ALSO RECEIVED PROBABLY 30 UH [1:39:34] ,PIECES OF TESTIMONY FROM UH [1:39:37] RESIDENTS ACROSS THE CITY. [1:39:38] I'M NOT GOING TO READ THAT INTO [1:39:40] THE RECORD BUT I MIGHT I MIGHT [1:39:42] HIGHLIGHT A COUPLE THINGS LATER [1:39:43] . [1:39:44] UM, PEST CONTROL IS CRITICAL TO [1:39:47] OUR RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE [1:39:49] AS RATS AND RODENTS ARE NOT [1:39:51] ONLY A NUISANCE BUT THEY ALSO [1:39:53] IMPACT PUBLIC HEALTH, [1:39:56] SANITIZATION OF OUR [1:39:56] NEIGHBORHOODS, MAINTENANCE [1:39:57] OF OUR PROPERTIES, PUBLIC [1:39:59] SAFETY JUST YESTERDAY I [1:40:01] RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A [1:40:03] NEIGHBOR IN SOUTH BOSTON WHO [1:40:04] WAS COMING HOME FROM A WALK AND [1:40:06] TOLD ME THAT A RAT JUMPED INTO [1:40:08] HIS SON'S STROLLER. [1:40:13] UNACCEPTABLE. [1:40:18] FOLLOWING LAST YEAR'S RELEASE [1:40:20] OF THE CITY'S BOSTON ROAD AN [1:40:21] ACTION PLAN, IT IS IMPORTANT TO [1:40:24] REVIEW THE INITIATIVES IN [1:40:25] DELIVERING RESULTS. [1:40:26] FOR YEARS I HAVE ASKED US TO [1:40:29] PRIORITIZE ISSUES OF TRASH [1:40:32] CONTAINERIZATION ACROSS THE [1:40:33] CITY AND CLOSE RODENT RESISTANT [1:40:35] PUBLIC TRASH BARRELS, PEST [1:40:37] CONTROL AROUND SEWERS AND [1:40:39] NEIGHBORHOOD WALKS. [1:40:41] I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO CRITICAL [1:40:43] THAT WE LAUNCH A MASSIVE PUBLIC [1:40:45] AWARENESS CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING [1:40:47] IN LANGUAGES OTHER THAN ENGLISH [1:40:49] AS WELL THAT INCLUDES LANGUAGE [1:40:51] ACCESS, TRANSLATION UM, SO THAT [1:40:54] ALL RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND THEIR [1:40:56] RESPONSIBILITIES TO WORK [1:40:57] TOGETHER ON A PROBLEM THAT HAS [1:40:59] NOW LEFT US RATED THE TOP TEN [1:41:02] MOST RODENT INFESTED CITIES IN [1:41:05] AMERICA. [1:41:08] I'D ALSO LIKE TO US TO REVISIT [1:41:11] THE RECOMMENDATION OF BOTH THE [1:41:13] STUDY'S OWN AUTHOR DOCTOR [1:41:15] CORRIGAN AND MYSELF FOR THE [1:41:18] CREATION OF A DEDICATED [1:41:19] POSITION OF RATS. [1:41:20] UM, WE RECEIVED PUBLIC [1:41:23] TESTIMONY ALREADY, UH, FROM [1:41:25] DAVID IN THE SOUTH END [1:41:28] RECOMMENDING THE SAME. [1:41:31] BACK WHEN I WAS CITY [1:41:33] COUNCIL PRESIDENT I SPOKE WITH [1:41:34] THE NEW YORK CITY RATS. [1:41:36] UH, KATHLEEN KARATE AT THAT [1:41:39] TIME ON THIS ISSUE WE LEARNED A [1:41:41] LOT FROM HER AND FROM THAT [1:41:43] CONVERSATION AND FROM MY [1:41:46] EXPERIENCE WORKING ON THIS [1:41:47] ISSUE WITH COUNCILOR BRATTON [1:41:49] WITH SO MANY OTHER CITY [1:41:50] COUNCILORS. [1:41:51] UM, I PUSHED THE CITY TO [1:41:55] ESTABLISH THE WROTE AN ACTION [1:41:56] PLAN THAT I WAS ACTIVELY [1:41:57] INVOLVED IN. [1:41:58] BUT THE THE ONE RECOMMENDATION [1:42:00] THAT WAS NOT UM INCLUDED WAS [1:42:03] THE RATS UH, BASICALLY A [1:42:07] STANDALONE CITY DEPARTMENT THAT [1:42:09] WOULD COORDINATE ALL ACTIVITIES [1:42:11] AS IT RELATES TO PEST CONTROL [1:42:13] THAT IS CRITICALLY NEEDED. [1:42:16] WE NEED TO HAVE CONCRETE [1:42:18] MEASURES IN PLACE TO ADEQUATELY [1:42:20] TACKLE THE RISE IN RODENT [1:42:22] ACTIVITIES, THE SPREAD [1:42:23] OF POTENTIAL DISEASES. [1:42:24] IT'S PUBLIC HEALTH AS WELL UM, [1:42:27] INCLUDING MORE INSPECTIONS, [1:42:28] WORKING ON THE WEEKENDS, PUBLIC [1:42:30] AWARENESS CAMPAIGNS, PUBLIC [1:42:32] OUTREACH WE NEED TO GET THIS [1:42:34] RIGHT SO THE PEOPLE CONTINUED [1:42:35] TO STAY IN THE CITY CALL BOSTON [1:42:38] HOME. [1:42:39] IT'S THAT SERIOUS WHEN A RAT IS [1:42:41] IN A CHILD'S CRIB OR STROLLER [1:42:46] WE CAN'T IGNORE IT. [1:42:52] SOME PUBLIC TESTIMONY TESTIMONY [1:42:55] ALREADY INCLUDED UH, PHRASES [1:42:57] SUCH AS WE HAVE A SERIOUS [1:42:59] PROBLEM TRASH DUMPING. [1:43:04] THE THE WAY WE UM COMPOST IS [1:43:07] NOW BEING REDUCED FROM WEEKLY [1:43:11] TO BIWEEKLY. [1:43:12] UH, NEED MORE LICE INSPECT [1:43:15] LICENSED INSPECTORS. [1:43:16] UH, THE SOMEONE MENTIONS THE [1:43:18] CITY NOT MAINTAINING THEIR OWN [1:43:20] PROPERTY A CHRONIC PROBLEM. [1:43:22] THERE'S SOME. [1:43:23] THERE'S SOME DISCONNECT BETWEEN [1:43:26] UM, WHAT YOU HIGHLIGHTED, LUKE [1:43:28] UM, ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING [1:43:30] WELL AND WHAT RESIDENTS ARE [1:43:32] EXPERIENCING IN THEIR OWN [1:43:33] NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:43:34] UM, WHEN RESIDENTS TELL ME THAT [1:43:36] THERE ARE RATS IN THE BABY'S [1:43:39] CRIB OR IN THEIR STROLLER AND I [1:43:42] SEE THEM ON MY STREET IN SOUTH [1:43:43] BOSTON ON GOLD STREET WITH [1:43:45] FLOODED WITH RATS. [1:43:49] IT HAS NOT IMPROVED. [1:43:51] IT'S GOTTEN WORSE. [1:43:53] IT'S A MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH [1:43:56] PUBLIC SAFETY QUALITY OF LIFE [1:43:58] ISSUE. [1:44:00] WE NEED TO STREAMLINE THE [1:44:02] PROCESS AND PROVIDE EXECUTIVE [1:44:07] LEADERSHIP, POSITIVE LEADERSHIP [1:44:08] AND JOHN OLIVER EXTOLLING THE [1:44:09] BEST HE CAN UNDER CHALLENGING [1:44:12] CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE RESPECT FOR [1:44:13] JOHN BUT THE THE GOAL OF PEST [1:44:16] CONTROL NEEDS TO BE ELEVATED. [1:44:19] UM I DO WANT TO KEEP MYSELF TO [1:44:21] THE FIVE MINUTES UM THAT'S [1:44:25] CHAIR I DON'T I DON'T TAKE THE [1:44:26] OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO [1:44:27] SPEAK. [1:44:29] UM SO I'M GOING TO STOP THERE. [1:44:31] I DO WANT TO CONTINUE WITH [1:44:33] PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND AFTER [1:44:35] PUBLIC TESTIMONY I DO WANT TO [1:44:37] GO BACK TO CITY COUNCIL'S UM [1:44:39] BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU [1:44:40] TO ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT HAVE [1:44:43] ALREADY TESTIFIED FROM THE BAY [1:44:45] VILLAGE CHINATOWN, SOUTH AND [1:44:47] SOUTH BOSTON, BACK BAY MANY IN [1:44:51] MY MANY IN MY UM IN DISTRICT [1:44:53] TWO. [1:44:57] SO I'M GOING TO CONTINUE WITH [1:44:58] PUBLIC TESTIMONY. [1:45:00] UM I'M GOING TO DO A COUPLE [1:45:01] VIRTUAL AND THEN I'M GOING TO [1:45:03] DO A COUPLE UM IN PERSON. [1:45:07] SO LET ME ASK. [1:45:12] I MAY HAVE MISSED HER ALREADY [1:45:14] BECAUSE JILL HAD A JILL TOLD [1:45:18] ME SHE WAS LEAVING AT 1115. [1:45:20] I MAY HAVE MISSED HER AND IF I [1:45:23] DID I APOLOGIZE BUT IS JILL [1:45:25] STILL WITH US? [1:45:25] I WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO GET HER, [1:45:27] UM, TO TESTIFY IF SHE'S STILL [1:45:30] ON WITH US. [1:45:34] JILL. [1:45:41] OKAY. [1:45:47] IN THE MEANTIME, CAN I GO TO [1:45:51] RANDY GLEN FOR A PLEASE? [1:45:58] JUST GO. [1:46:01] OKAY. [1:46:01] JILL IS OFF. [1:46:02] UM, LET'S GO TO RANDY, PLEASE. [1:46:06] I BELIEVE RANDY'S IN THE SAINT [1:46:08] P-12 NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION [1:46:09] IN THE, UH. [1:46:10] IN THE IN THE BACK BAY. [1:46:12] SOUTH END AREA. [1:46:14] RANDY. [1:46:14] GOOD TO BE WITH RANDY. [1:46:15] GOOD TO BE. [1:46:16] WITH YOU. [1:46:18] YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE. [1:46:20] RANDY. [1:46:28] RANDY, ARE YOU WITH US? [1:46:37] RANDY, YOU'RE UP NEXT. [1:46:45] YOU MIGHT BE MUTED. [1:46:46] RANDY IN THE MEANTIME LET'S GO [1:46:50] TO KEVIN CONROY. [1:46:53] UM AND WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK TO [1:46:56] RANDY KEVIN CONROY. [1:47:08] WHAT'S. [1:47:10] WE NOT BE OTHER TECHNICAL [1:47:13] ISSUE SO I'M GOING TO GO WITH [1:47:14] PUBLIC TESTIMONY HERE WE GO. [1:47:15] AND HOW DO YOU THERE AND HERE I [1:47:18] AM KEVIN COREY. [1:47:19] KEVIN CONROY YUP YOU'RE UP [1:47:20] NEXT. [1:47:21] THANK YOU. [1:47:23] UM I DID SUBMIT UM WRITTEN [1:47:26] TESTIMONY BUT I JUST WOULD LIKE [1:47:28] TO KIND OF REITERATE WHAT I UH [1:47:30] ,HAD PUT INTO THAT WIFE AND I, [1:47:34] A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE CITY [1:47:36] OF. [1:47:36] BOSTON WE'VE LIVED IN SOUTH [1:47:37] BOSTON MAJORITY OF TIMES BUT UH [1:47:39] ,FEW YEARS IN SAVIN. [1:47:41] HILL. [1:47:42] WE'VE MOVED INTO THE WHITE [1:47:44] HOUSE. [1:47:45] UH, WE NOW LIVE IN IN 1997 AND [1:47:49] UP UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO, UH, [1:47:51] THINGS WERE FINE. [1:47:53] UH, ROUGHLY TWO YEARS AGO I [1:47:55] DON'T KNOW WHAT WHAT ALL OF A [1:47:56] SUDDEN IT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS [1:47:58] JUST OVERRUN RATS. [1:48:00] UH, WE CAN'T USE OUR YARD. [1:48:02] BEEN UNABLE TO USE OF WILL HAVE [1:48:04] PEOPLE OVER. [1:48:05] IT'S JUST WE'VE HIRED, UH UH, A [1:48:10] PROFESSIONAL PEST CONTROL [1:48:12] COMPANY. [1:48:12] WE'VE BEEN USING THEM REGULARLY [1:48:15] PROBABLY FOR THE PAST THREE [1:48:17] YEARS. [1:48:19] AND, UH, OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE [1:48:20] TO CALL THEM FOR EXTRA, UH, [1:48:22] VISITS. [1:48:22] IT'S JUST, UH THE NEIGHBORHOOD [1:48:25] IN ITSELF IS JUST IT'S JUST [1:48:26] IT'S DISGUSTING. [1:48:28] UM, THERE IS A NEED FOR SOME [1:48:30] SORT OF CENTRAL, UH, AUTHORITY [1:48:35] THAT WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR [1:48:38] AN OVERALL STRATEGY AS OPPOSED [1:48:40] TO JUST USING DIFFERENT [1:48:42] DEPARTMENTS WHAT THEIR WHAT [1:48:43] THEIR PLANS. [1:48:45] UH, I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS BY [1:48:48] ESD AND THE THE, UH, PRESIDENT [1:48:51] TO CONTROL PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE [1:48:53] DOING THE BEST THEY CAN. [1:48:54] AS YOU SAID, THEY WERE REALLY [1:48:55] UNDER VERY CHALLENGING [1:48:57] CIRCUMSTANCES. [1:48:58] UM, ONE THING I'VE NOTICED AND [1:49:01] I THINK IT'S A BIG PROBLEM EVEN [1:49:03] SPEAKING WITH THE PEST CONTROL [1:49:04] GUY THAT THAT COMES HERE. [1:49:07] IS THE IMPROPER DISPOSAL [1:49:10] OF HOUSEHOLD TRASH GARBAGE. [1:49:11] UH, AROUND HERE THIS [1:49:14] NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIVE DOWN THE [1:49:15] LOWER END LIVED ON WEST. [1:49:16] WE LIVE ON WEST STREET. [1:49:18] WE HAVE IT IN THE GENERAL [1:49:20] NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:49:21] UH, A GREAT DEAL OF PROPERTY IS [1:49:23] ABSENTEE LANDLORDS OR LLCS. [1:49:26] AND IN THE END THESE THE. [1:49:28] RESIDENTS BY AND LARGE WHEN [1:49:29] PEOPLE BUT YOU HAVE A FAIR [1:49:31] AMOUNT OF UM I CALL THEM [1:49:33] INDIFFERENT AND THE WAY THEY [1:49:34] HANDLE TRASH OR DISPOSE OF IT I [1:49:37] YEAH IT'S JUST IT'S JUST MIND [1:49:40] BOGGLING SOMETIMES WHAT I SEE [1:49:42] IS PROBLEMS WITH THESE UH MAYBE [1:49:44] YOU KNOW WITH THESE ABILITY [1:49:45] WHERE ONCE THEY HAVE A PROPERTY [1:49:46] MANAGEMENT COMPANY OR I DON'T [1:49:48] KNOW HOW THEIR TRASH IS PUT OUT [1:49:50] OR NOT PUT OUT, I'VE CALLED 311 [1:49:52] NUMBER TIMES UH, BUT UH, [1:49:56] HOUSEHOLD TRASH IT DOESN'T GET [1:49:57] PUT OUT FOR A WEEK. [1:49:58] TWO WEEKS. [1:50:00] UH AT THE TIMES THE BARRELS ARE [1:50:01] JUST LEFT OUT AND NOBODY BRINGS [1:50:02] THEM BACK IN. [1:50:03] BIG UH, HOUSEHOLD, YOU KNOW, [1:50:06] LIKE KITCHEN BAGS PUT OUT ON [1:50:08] THE SIDEWALK. [1:50:09] YOU SEE THEM RIPPED OPEN TRASH [1:50:11] GARBAGE OUT ON THE STREET FROM [1:50:13] RODENTS AND OTHER CRITTERS [1:50:14] GETTING INTO THEM. [1:50:15] IT'S JUST A LIST. [1:50:16] IT'S JUST SO MANY DIFFERENT [1:50:17] THINGS. [1:50:18] I THINK ONE THING FINES NEED TO [1:50:20] BE UPPED. [1:50:21] I DON'T THINK THAT UM OBVIOUSLY [1:50:22] THEY'RE NOT UH, GETTING THE [1:50:25] MESSAGE THROUGH UH UH, MONEY IS [1:50:26] SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE [1:50:28] UNDERSTAND AND THEY HAVE TO [1:50:29] START PULLING IT OUT OF THEIR [1:50:30] OWN POCKET. [1:50:30] THEY'RE GOING TO STOP PAYING [1:50:32] ATTENTION. [1:50:33] SO I. [1:50:33] THINK THE CITY SHOULD. [1:50:34] YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT UH, LOOK [1:50:36] AT UPPING THE FINES AND UH, YOU [1:50:39] KNOW, INCREASING ENFORCEMENT. [1:50:41] IT JUST IT'S. [1:50:42] THE ONLY THING THAT PEOPLE [1:50:43] UNDERSTAND. [1:50:44] I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT THAT'S IT [1:50:45] . [1:50:46] UM. [1:50:49] I UH OTHER THAN. [1:50:49] THAT, I GUESS I'LL JUST. [1:50:50] CLOSE WITH, UH, JUST SAY THAT I [1:50:52] APPRECIATE EVERYTHING THAT [1:50:53] PEOPLE ARE DOING. [1:50:54] ED, YOU WAS ESPECIALLY LEADING [1:50:55] THIS AND, UH, I'LL END THERE. [1:50:59] THANK YOU. [1:51:00] KEVIN. [1:51:05] IS RANDY UM, AVAILABLE. [1:51:07] TO ADD THIS BOB LATER. [1:51:09] CAN YOU HEAR ME? [1:51:10] OH. [1:51:10] HEY, BOB. [1:51:11] UM, YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU, BOB. [1:51:13] GO AHEAD. [1:51:13] OKAY. [1:51:14] YEAH, RIGHT. [1:51:15] RANDY STEPPED OUT TO GET A [1:51:16] COVID SHOT BUT SHE SAID HOLD ON [1:51:18] IF YOU CAN GET ON SO SO THANK [1:51:19] YOU FOR HAVING US. [1:51:21] UM, I'LL BE BRIEF. [1:51:22] AND FIRST OF ALL I WANT TO [1:51:24] COMMEND YOU TREMENDOUSLY. [1:51:26] I REMEMBER I'M GOING TO I'M [1:51:27] GOING TO TURN TO TALK ABOUT A [1:51:29] SUCCESSFUL SITUATION THAT WE [1:51:31] HAD IN OUR AREA. [1:51:32] YOU KNOW WHERE THAT IS ABOUT A [1:51:33] YEAR AND A HALF AGO AND AT THAT [1:51:35] TIME I THINK EVEN EARLIER YOU [1:51:36] WERE TALKING ABOUT TRYING TO [1:51:38] GET AND WE ALL TALKED ABOUT [1:51:39] IT'D BE GREAT TO GET A RAT CZAR [1:51:41] BECAUSE I THINK ACCOUNTABILITY [1:51:43] IS SOME PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT OUT [1:51:44] IS A BIG ISSUE. [1:51:46] COORDINATING OF RESOURCES IS A [1:51:47] BIG ISSUE AND SOMEONE HAS TO BE [1:51:49] AT THE TOP TO STAY ON THIS. [1:51:51] BUT ANYWAY WE LIVE UH IN THIS [1:51:55] UH SAINT PETERSBURG [1:51:56] NEIGHBORHOOD AREA WE HAVE A [1:51:58] CONDO ON UM IT'S UH THE BACK [1:52:01] OF OUR BUILDING IS UH, JUST [1:52:03] WITH THE COLONNADE HOTEL. [1:52:05] THE COLONNADE HOTEL HAS ITS [1:52:08] TRASH ON THE OUTSIDE OF THAT [1:52:10] BUILDING. [1:52:11] UH, TWO YEARS AGO WE HAD A [1:52:14] PHENOMENAL RAT PROBLEM IN THE [1:52:16] BACK OF THAT ALLEYWAY. [1:52:17] I MEAN, IT WAS NOT ONLY RATS. [1:52:19] IT WAS A COMMUNITY OF RATS AND [1:52:20] THERE WERE NESTS UNDERNEATH [1:52:22] SOME OF THE BUILDING THERE FROM [1:52:24] FOOD SOURCE IS THE MOST [1:52:26] CRITICAL CONTAINMENT OF THAT IS [1:52:27] THE MOST CRITICAL THING YOU CAN [1:52:29] DO. [1:52:31] WE GOT TOGETHER WITH ALL THE [1:52:32] NEIGHBORS IN OUR AREA. [1:52:33] WE GOT TOGETHER WITH THE PEOPLE [1:52:35] AT THE COLONNADE HOTEL WHO I [1:52:37] WANT TO RESPECT AND SAY BECAUSE [1:52:38] THEY STEPPED FORWARD THEY [1:52:40] BECAUSE THEY HAD BARRELS OUT, [1:52:42] THEY WERE CONTAINED BUT THEY [1:52:43] WEREN'T FULLY CONTAINED. [1:52:44] THEY EVEN WENT TO METALIZED [1:52:46] THINGS AND ONCE THIS WAS DONE [1:52:48] AND THE NEIGHBORS SAYING WE [1:52:49] DON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM NOW TO [1:52:50] THE LEVEL THAT WE HAD AND AND [1:52:52] AND IT WAS A GRASSROOTS LEVEL [1:52:55] THAT THAT RANDY WORKED ON WITH [1:52:57] THE SAINT BITOF NEIGHBORHOOD [1:52:59] ASSOCIATION WITH ALL THE [1:53:00] NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA AS WELL [1:53:02] GETTING TOGETHER AS WELL AS [1:53:04] WITH UM THE HOTEL BECAUSE THAT [1:53:07] FOOD SOURCE IS WHERE YOU'RE [1:53:08] GOING TO GET AT AND I WANT TO [1:53:09] THANK ALL THE PEOPLE WE WORK [1:53:11] WITH WE NOW HAVE IT CONTAINED. [1:53:14] IT'S NEVER GOING TO GO AWAY. [1:53:15] BUT I REMEMBER MY SON BEING OUT [1:53:16] ON OUR DECK AT NIGHT LOOKING [1:53:18] OUT AT TWO IN THE MORNING AND [1:53:20] HE WOULD SEE NOT ONLY SINGLE [1:53:22] RATS HE WOULD HAVE FAMILIES [1:53:24] COMMUNITIES OF RATS. [1:53:25] SO IT'S AMAZING WHAT COMES OUT [1:53:27] AT NIGHT YOU TALK ABOUT DURING [1:53:28] THE DAY. [1:53:29] I MEAN IF YOU DON'T CONTAIN THE [1:53:30] FOOD SOURCE THEY'RE GOING TO [1:53:32] COME FROM ALL OVER THE PLACE. [1:53:34] THE OTHER THING SOMEONE SAID [1:53:35] THAT I AGREE ON IS AND THAT [1:53:37] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT EARLY HERE [1:53:39] ABOUT CLOROX OR BLEACH UM IF IF [1:53:42] YOU PUT SOME OF THAT ON IT THEY [1:53:44] SMELL IT AND THEY STAY AWAY. [1:53:46] SO I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT COULD [1:53:49] TEMPORARILY BE INTRODUCED BUT [1:53:50] IT IS EFFECTIVE BUT AND THE [1:53:53] OTHER THING I THINK YOU GOT TO [1:53:54] ADDRESS IT WAS I DIDN'T HEAR [1:53:56] HEAR BECAUSE OF THE [1:53:57] NEIGHBORHOOD WE LIVE IN THERE [1:53:58] ARE A LOT OF UM PROPERTIES [1:54:01] WHERE THERE'S A TURNOVER [1:54:03] OF TOURISTS COMING IN AND [1:54:04] RENTERS AND WHATEVER AND THEY [1:54:05] ALWAYS PUT THEIR TRASH OUT. [1:54:07] WE HAVE A HORRIBLE PROBLEM IN [1:54:08] ALLEYWAY 402 BEHIND US AT THE [1:54:11] CORNER AND THEY'RE PUTTING OUT [1:54:12] THE BAGS AND THEY'RE ALWAYS [1:54:14] OPENED UP AND WHATEVER. [1:54:16] UM WE FINALLY HAD TO WORK WITH [1:54:18] UH THE REALTORS, THE PROPERTY [1:54:21] MANAGERS AND WE EVEN HAD PEOPLE [1:54:23] OPENING UP AND LOOKING AT THE [1:54:25] BAG OF WHAT WHAT WHAT ACTUALLY [1:54:27] BUILDINGS THEY WERE IN [1:54:28] GRASSROOTS UP TO GET [1:54:30] ENFORCEMENT TO FIND AND [1:54:32] WHATEVER BECAUSE IT'S A [1:54:33] HORRIBLE ISSUE. [1:54:34] BUT UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT [1:54:36] WASN'T BROUGHT UP TODAY I THINK [1:54:37] NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT IS [1:54:39] PROPERTY MANAGERS BECAUSE YOU [1:54:40] HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE NOT ONLY [1:54:42] RESIDENTS BUT PEOPLE COMING [1:54:45] INTO AREAS THAT COME AND GO [1:54:46] RENT PUT THE TRASH OUT THAT GO [1:54:49] ON THEY COULD CARE LESS [1:54:50] WHATEVER AND THERE'S GOT TO BE [1:54:52] SOME ACCOUNTABILITY BACK TO THE [1:54:53] PROPERTY MANAGER. [1:54:54] BUT NUMBER ONE AND FINALLY IT'S [1:54:55] IT'S THE FOOD SOURCE. [1:54:57] IF YOU SHUT IT DOWN YOU CLOSE [1:54:58] IT UP AS THE COLONY DID AND WE [1:55:00] WORK WITH YOU'RE GOING TO [1:55:03] YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE LIKE [1:55:04] 99% OF THE PROBLEM AND I WAS [1:55:06] MENTIONED EARLIER WE ALSO HAVE [1:55:08] A SITUATION WE WERE FORTUNATE [1:55:09] WE HAVE AN INTERNAL [1:55:12] CONTAINERIZATION. [1:55:13] WE HAVE A WE PAID TO HAVE IT [1:55:14] PUT OUT FIRST THING IN THE [1:55:15] MORNING AND IT'S IMMEDIATELY [1:55:16] PICKED UP. [1:55:17] THAT HELPS WHERE WE ARE. [1:55:18] BUT AT THE CORNER WHERE THE [1:55:19] PEOPLE THAT RENT AND COME IN [1:55:21] AND COULD CARE LESS ARE PUTTING [1:55:23] OUT THE CHEAP BAGS. [1:55:24] THEY'RE OPENED UP IN THE [1:55:25] MORNING AND THE TRASH IS ALWAYS [1:55:27] DOWN OUR ALLEYWAY. [1:55:28] SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME OF THE [1:55:30] SUGGESTIONS. [1:55:30] BUT EDDIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH [1:55:32] FOR ORGANIZING THIS. [1:55:33] YOU WERE THE SPEARHEAD OF THIS [1:55:34] THING. [1:55:35] I DO THINK WE NEED A RAT CZAR [1:55:39] BECAUSE YOU KNOW FORGET ALL THE [1:55:40] ANALYSIS WHATEVER WE NEED [1:55:41] ACCOUNTABILITY ON THE ISSUES. [1:55:43] THAT'S ALL I WANT TO SAY. [1:55:44] THANK YOU. [1:55:45] THANK YOU BOB I DO WANT TO GO [1:55:48] BACK TO IN-PERSON PUBLIC [1:55:50] TESTIMONY. [1:55:53] IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME. [1:55:54] IF. [1:55:54] YOU JUST COME TO EITHER OF THE [1:55:56] MICROPHONES. [1:55:57] JOHN. [1:56:00] HEATHER. [1:56:05] ALICIA. [1:56:08] JANET. [1:56:13] UM. [1:56:17] BECAUSE THEY WERE JANE ALSO UM. [1:56:24] BUZZ KOSKI. [1:56:25] THAT'S WHAT HE'S GOING TO FOR [1:56:28] COVID TEST THOUGH. [1:56:29] OKAY. [1:56:29] AND IF LEXI IS HERE, UM, DOES [1:56:31] LEXI WANT TO COME DOWN? [1:56:34] UM. [1:56:37] SO I'M GOING TO GIVE EVERYONE, [1:56:38] UM, TWO MINUTES IF YOU WANT TO [1:56:40] GIVE YOUR NAME AND MAYBE. [1:56:42] THE NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:56:43] YOU'RE FROM AND UM, TAKE THE [1:56:47] TWO MINUTES TO UM, STATE YOUR [1:56:48] POSITION. [1:56:50] UM YES, SIR. [1:56:52] I, UM. [1:56:53] MY NAME IS I PUT A STATEMENT. [1:56:55] HERE, UM. [1:56:56] REVIEWING WHAT I'M GOING TO [1:56:57] READ AND I'VE GOT SOME I'M [1:56:58] GOING TO, UM. [1:57:00] EMAIL YOUR OFFICES ONE MORE [1:57:01] DETAIL. [1:57:02] SO MY NAME IS JOHN PACHECO SKI. [1:57:04] I'M A RESIDENT AND OWNER AT 12 [1:57:05] ACADIA STREET IN SOUTH BOSTON. [1:57:07] I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT AT THAT [1:57:08] ADDRESS FOR THE PAST 23 YEARS. [1:57:11] UM, THE PAST THREE YEARS WE'VE [1:57:12] SEEN A MAJOR UPTICKS IN RATS ON [1:57:14] ACADIA STREET. [1:57:15] THE INITIAL WAVE SEEMED TO [1:57:17] COINCIDE WITH THE DEMOLITION [1:57:18] OF THE OLD L STREET POWER [1:57:20] STATION AND A SECOND WAVE WITH [1:57:21] THE RENOVATION OF THE [1:57:22] CHRISTOPHER LEE PLAYGROUND BALL [1:57:24] FIELD LAST YEAR. [1:57:25] RARE NIGHT YOU DON'T SEE [1:57:26] SEVERAL RATS RUNNING AROUND. [1:57:29] UM, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO THEY [1:57:30] STARTED INVADING OUR YARD AND [1:57:32] THAT OF OUR NEIGHBOR AL ROACH [1:57:33] BREWING THIS UNDER SHEDS AND [1:57:35] RAISED GARDEN BEDS. [1:57:36] WE SMOKE BOMBED THEM. [1:57:37] WE FILLED IN THEIR BARRELS. [1:57:39] WE LINED THERE ARE GARDENS AND [1:57:40] FENCES WITH, UH, BURIED WIRE [1:57:42] STONE AND METAL MESH. [1:57:43] UH, WE PRETTY MUCH SUCCEEDED IN [1:57:46] KEEPING THEM FROM MAKING HOMES [1:57:47] IN THEIR YARDS, BUT THEY'RE [1:57:49] CONTINUING TO USE, UM, OUR [1:57:51] YARDS AS ALMOST A A HIGHWAY TO [1:57:55] REACH OTHER NEIGHBORS YARDS. [1:57:56] IT'S LIKE A RED HIGHWAY. [1:57:58] UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE I CAN [1:57:59] DO IT FOR MY END. [1:58:01] UH, I ALSO LIKE DO HAVE I PUT [1:58:03] WRIGLEY PUT A RAT TRAP SPREAD [1:58:05] ACROSS MY PROPERTY? [1:58:06] THIS YEAR I'VE KILLED SO MANY [1:58:07] RATS I'VE LOST COUNT ALMOST [1:58:09] 4050 RATS IN THE PAST TEN DAYS [1:58:11] ALONE I'VE KILLED EIGHT. [1:58:12] THAT NUMBER IS STAGGERING. [1:58:15] UM, NOW THIS IS A MORE CRITICAL [1:58:17] ISSUE. [1:58:18] EARLIER THIS FALL MY SON [1:58:20] CONTRACTED LESS LEPTOSPIROSIS. [1:58:23] IT'S A RAT BORNE BACTERIAL [1:58:25] INFECTION SPREAD VIA CONTACT [1:58:27] WITH RAT FECES AND URINE. [1:58:28] HE WAS IN THE HOSPITAL FOR TWO [1:58:30] WEEKS IN ICU FOR A WEEK AND [1:58:32] SUFFERED SERIOUS LIVER AND [1:58:33] KIDNEY INJURIES. [1:58:36] UH, WE'LL NEVER KNOW IF HE [1:58:38] CONTACT CONTRACTED IT FROM OUR [1:58:39] YARD OR FROM, UH, THE TRASH [1:58:42] BINS AT JP LUKE'S WHERE HE [1:58:43] WORKS AT HIS PART TIME JOB. [1:58:45] THAT'S NOT THE POINT. [1:58:45] THE ISSUE WHICH WE HAVE TO TALK [1:58:47] ABOUT THIS AT ALL. [1:58:49] IT'S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. [1:58:50] I APPRECIATE. [1:58:51] THE CITY'S EFFORTS, WHAT [1:58:52] THEY'RE SAYING, BUT IT'S BEEN [1:58:53] MY EXPERIENCE HAVEN'T BEEN [1:58:55] PARTICULARLY USEFUL. [1:58:56] UM. [1:58:57] OVER THE YEARS AFTER [1:58:58] COMPLAINTS TO MR FLYNN'S OFFICE [1:59:00] AND THE THREE ONE LINE 311 LINE [1:59:02] INSPECTORS VISITED US 2 OR 3 [1:59:04] TIMES AND GAVE US THE SAME [1:59:05] SUGGESTIONS. [1:59:06] IT'S KIND OF THE SAME OLD [1:59:07] STORY. [1:59:07] WE FOLLOWED THEIR [1:59:08] RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE GET GO [1:59:09] BUT THE PROBLEMS PERSISTED AND [1:59:11] SEEM TO HAVE GOTTEN WORSE. [1:59:14] UM I UNDERSTAND THIS NOTION [1:59:16] OF CITATIONS IF PEOPLE AREN'T [1:59:19] GETTING FINED. [1:59:20] NO ONE'S GOING TO DO ANYTHING. [1:59:22] UM. [1:59:22] WE NEED TO BE MORE [1:59:24] AGGRESSIVE ON THAT. [1:59:25] UH MONEY TALKS RIGHT? [1:59:26] AND I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE [1:59:28] OF BAGS. [1:59:28] I'M NOT SURE HOW BAGS ARE [1:59:29] REALLY. [1:59:29] UH, THEIR STYLE BAGS ARE USEFUL [1:59:31] . [1:59:31] THE RATS ARE LITERALLY CHEWING [1:59:32] THROUGH THE TRASH BINS IN OUR [1:59:34] NEIGHBORHOOD. [1:59:34] THERE'S BIG HOLES IN THE TOP [1:59:35] OF THE TRASH BINS. [1:59:37] UM, I KNOW SOMETHING IS JUST [1:59:39] ONE. [1:59:40] NEIGHBORHOOD IN THE CITY. [1:59:40] THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE. [1:59:42] I APPRECIATE THE EFFORTS AT [1:59:43] THIS POINT, BUT THE PROOF IS IN [1:59:44] THE PUDDING. [1:59:45] THIS IS A SERIOUS HEALTH ISSUE [1:59:47] THAT CAN HAVE FATAL [1:59:48] CONSEQUENCES. [1:59:49] UH, THE TIME FOR RESEARCH [1:59:50] STUDIES IS WELL OVER. [1:59:51] STOP TIME TO STOP PLAYING THIS [1:59:53] BUREAUCRATIC HOT POTATO, GET [1:59:54] OUR BUTTS IN GEAR AND REALLY DO [1:59:56] SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ISSUE. [1:59:57] UM. [1:59:58] YOU CAN TELL I'M VERY [1:59:59] FRUSTRATED BY THIS AND I THINK [2:00:01] A GOOD FIRST STEP IS TO POINT [2:00:03] OUT RATS ARE UH. [2:00:04] THAT'S WHAT I HAVE. [2:00:05] THANK YOU. [2:00:07] JOHN. [2:00:08] UM, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO [2:00:11] RESPOND VERY, VERY BRIEFLY TO [2:00:12] WHAT JOHN SAID. [2:00:14] UM I SAID THIS WAS A PUBLIC [2:00:16] HEALTH ISSUE. [2:00:17] I BELIEVE IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH [2:00:18] ISSUE. [2:00:20] UM, I BROUGHT THIS TO THE [2:00:22] ATTENTION OF CITY OFFICIALS [2:00:23] INCLUDING PUBLIC HEALTH [2:00:24] COMMISSION. [2:00:26] UM, LAST YEAR A TUFTS [2:00:28] UNIVERSITY STUDY IN BOSTON [2:00:30] URBAN RAT POPULATION FOUND THAT [2:00:32] MOST MANY RAT POPULATIONS IN [2:00:35] BOSTON ARE CARRYING AND [2:00:36] SPREADING LEPTOSPIROSIS. [2:00:39] AS JOHN MENTIONED, UH, [2:00:41] BACTERIAL DISEASE THAT IMPACTS [2:00:42] BOTH HUMANS AND OTHER ANIMALS. [2:00:45] LEPTOSPIROSIS IS SPREAD BY THE [2:00:47] URINE OF INFECTED ANIMALS [2:00:48] THROUGH CONTACT WITH INFECTED [2:00:50] SOIL AND WATER. [2:00:52] THESE ARE CONCERNS ON HOW THIS [2:00:55] MAY HAVE IMPACT VULNERABLE [2:00:57] POPULATIONS. [2:01:00] UM INCLUDING THE HOMELESS BUT [2:01:02] ALSO INCLUDING HEALTH WORKERS [2:01:04] AS WELL. [2:01:05] UM BUT THE. [2:01:06] CITY PUSHED BACK ON ME AND SAID [2:01:08] THAT THAT WASN'T NECESSARILY A [2:01:11] MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. [2:01:13] UM. [2:01:16] WE KNOW IT'S A PUBLIC HEALTH [2:01:17] ISSUE NOW AFTER LISTENING TO [2:01:19] JOHN'S TESTIMONY. [2:01:22] YES, MA'AM. [2:01:24] UM, HI AND THANKS FOR HAVING [2:01:25] ME. [2:01:25] I'M HEATHER O'BRIEN. [2:01:27] I'M FROM DORCHESTER. [2:01:28] I LIVE IN EAST BOSTON. [2:01:29] I WORK IN SOUTH BOSTON AND I [2:01:31] DID SEE THE FEISTY RATS ON WALL [2:01:33] STREET YESTERDAY WHEN I WALKED [2:01:34] FROM THE GYM TO GO DO AN [2:01:35] ERRAND. [2:01:36] IT'S BAD. [2:01:37] THIS IS A PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. [2:01:39] WE ARE DEALING WITH [2:01:41] ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE [2:01:42] COMMUNITIES WHO ARE ALREADY [2:01:43] VULNERABLE. [2:01:44] WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE [2:01:46] CHILDREN HAVE HIGHER RATES [2:01:48] OF ASTHMA THAN OTHER PLACES IN [2:01:49] OUR COMMONWEALTH. [2:01:51] WE HAVE ADULT POPULATIONS UM, [2:01:54] WITH KIDNEY DISEASES, UH WITH [2:01:59] UM DIABETES AND THINGS THAT [2:02:00] MAKE THEM MORE VULNERABLE. [2:02:02] UM, THE RATS MAKE THEIR WAY [2:02:05] AROUND BY DROPPING URINE AND [2:02:08] THEY SMELL THAT THE URINE [2:02:10] CONTAINS SALMONELLA. [2:02:11] THE URINE CONTAINS LEPTO. [2:02:12] THE URINE CONTAINS HUNT VIRUS. [2:02:15] UH, PEOPLE CAN GET LUNG [2:02:16] DISEASES AND KIDNEY DISEASES [2:02:17] FROM THIS. [2:02:18] IT'S NOT IF IT'S GOING TO [2:02:20] HAPPEN, IT IS HAPPENING. [2:02:22] UM, SO I THINK THAT THIS IS [2:02:23] VERY IMPORTANT. [2:02:24] IT'S NOT JUST A NUISANCE. [2:02:25] OH, WE SEE RATS AND WE DON'T [2:02:26] LIKE IT. [2:02:26] IT'S ICK. [2:02:27] IT'S HORRENDOUS. [2:02:29] UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I [2:02:31] WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE DO IS [2:02:32] LOOK TO OTHER CITIES AND NOT [2:02:34] JUST TALK ABOUT HOW GREAT IT [2:02:35] WAS TO HAVE THE RAT CONVENTION [2:02:37] AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO THINGS [2:02:38] WELL, WE'RE LOOKING INTO [2:02:40] THINGS. [2:02:40] THESE RATS ARE PROLIFICALLY [2:02:43] REPOPULATING. [2:02:44] THERE'S MORE AND MORE OF THEM [2:02:45] EVERY DAY YOU KILL ONE AND [2:02:47] THERE'S LIKE A LITTER OF 17 [2:02:48] BORN THE NEXT MINUTE. [2:02:50] UM, IT NEEDS TO BE A MORE [2:02:52] HOLISTIC APPROACH. [2:02:53] THE TRASH CONTAINMENT THAT I [2:02:55] HAVE PERSONALLY SEEN WORK IN [2:02:58] EUROPEAN CITIES IS NOT THAT [2:03:00] HARD. [2:03:00] PEOPLE GET USED TO IT. [2:03:01] WE LIVE IN DENSELY POPULATED. [2:03:03] WE'VE GOT MORE DENSE HOUSING IN [2:03:05] BOSTON THAN WE'VE EVER HAD [2:03:07] BEFORE AND WE NEED TO HAVE A [2:03:09] WAY TO KEEP THIS. [2:03:10] PEOPLE WILL GET USED TO [2:03:11] BRINGING THEIR TRASH TO THE [2:03:12] CORNER TO THE METAL BIN IN NEW [2:03:14] YORK WHERE THEY'VE DONE IT IN [2:03:15] HARLEM. [2:03:16] THEY'VE HAD A REDUCTION [2:03:17] OF ALMOST 40% RODENT SIGHTING [2:03:21] WHERE THEY DID THAT. [2:03:22] THAT PILOT PROGRAM IT'S REALLY [2:03:24] GREAT. [2:03:25] I WANT TO JUST GIVE MY [2:03:28] ANECDOTAL EXPERIENCE BECAUSE [2:03:29] RIGHT NOW I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO [2:03:31] RAT DISNEYLAND. [2:03:33] UM IT'S LIKE IT WOULD BE FUNNY [2:03:35] IF IT WASN'T FOR THE PAST THREE [2:03:38] YEARS I'VE SUBMITTED 247 311 [2:03:42] REPORTS. [2:03:43] I CLEAN THE TRASH FROM THE [2:03:45] STREET ON MY BLOCK TWICE A WEEK [2:03:47] . [2:03:48] I WASH THE SIDEWALK WITH CLOROX [2:03:50] . [2:03:50] I WASH MY TRASH BINS WITH [2:03:51] CLOROX. [2:03:53] NEXT DOOR TO ME A DEVELOPER WHO [2:03:55] GOT PLANNING PERMISSION WHO GOT [2:03:58] ZBA RELIEF FOR THEIR HARDSHIP [2:04:01] BUILT LUXURY HOUSING, NEVER [2:04:04] FINISHED THE PROJECT. [2:04:06] HALF OF THE THINGS ARE NOT [2:04:08] DONE. [2:04:08] IT'S FULL OF RAT TUNNELS. [2:04:11] HE'S BEEN CITED FOR WITH ONE [2:04:14] OF THOSE $25 TICKETS FROM [2:04:16] CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR IMPROPER [2:04:18] TRASH, BUT HE'S BEEN GETTING [2:04:20] THOSE SINCE I REPORTED THE [2:04:22] INITIAL, UM, DUMPSTER THAT HE [2:04:24] PUT ON THE SITE WITH NO LID AND [2:04:26] KEPT BRINGING HOUSEHOLD TRASH [2:04:28] TO AND THAT'S WHEN THE RAT [2:04:29] STARTED. [2:04:30] SO FOR THREE YEARS THESE RATS [2:04:32] HAVE MOVED IN NEXT DOOR. [2:04:34] WE'VE GOT LIKE UM THERE'S [2:04:35] ANOTHER BLIGHT PROPERTY AND [2:04:37] THEN THERE'S LIKE A LOCAL [2:04:38] RESTAURANT THAT WORKS REALLY [2:04:40] HARD TO KEEP THINGS CLEAN AND [2:04:41] DOES THINGS THE RIGHT WAY BUT [2:04:43] HAS AN EXTERMINATOR ONCE A WEEK [2:04:44] BECAUSE HE'S AFRAID THE RATS [2:04:45] ARE GOING TO COME THERE. [2:04:46] I HAVE PERSONALLY HAD TO BUY [2:04:48] RAT BAIT BOXES AND RAT POISON [2:04:51] TO KILL MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR'S [2:04:53] RATS. [2:04:55] THIS IS MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. [2:04:58] THESE ARE THE PROPERTIES THAT [2:04:59] THEY HAVE. [2:05:00] THESE ARE THE ZBA REQUESTS THAT [2:05:02] THEY HAVE TO DEVELOP MORE [2:05:03] PROPERTIES. [2:05:05] PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROBLEM [2:05:07] PROPERTIES LOW AND HIGH [2:05:09] NONCOMPLIANCE WITH EITHER THE [2:05:11] RUBBISH OR THE RATS AND IT'S [2:05:13] NOT BEEN MITIGATED SHOULD NOT [2:05:16] GET PERMISSION TO DO MORE. [2:05:19] WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THIS MANY [2:05:20] FROM SOMEONE LIKE THAT. [2:05:22] THIS IS ATROCIOUS. [2:05:24] THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO. [2:05:25] THEY DO NOT CARE ONE BIT ABOUT [2:05:27] THAT $25 TICKET. [2:05:29] THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO GET [2:05:32] RID OF THE RATS. [2:05:33] NOT ONE THING AND I FEEL LIKE I [2:05:35] CAN KEEP SENDING THESE 311 [2:05:37] REPORTS AT THE ADDRESS. [2:05:38] LIKE I ASKED ME TO AND THEY'RE [2:05:43] IN NONCOMPLIANCE AND THERE'S [2:05:44] NOTHING THEY CAN DO AND LIKE [2:05:45] EVEN ISD SAID HE'S A LAWYER. [2:05:47] HE'S JUST GOING TO FIGHT US. [2:05:49] I THINK THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO [2:05:51] COME DOWN HARDER ON THE BIG [2:05:53] PROBLEMS LIKE THIS BECAUSE IT [2:05:55] DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I DO IF [2:05:58] THIS IS STILL GOING ON. [2:06:00] UM THE OTHER THING I THE THE [2:06:02] RAT BAIT BOXES UM I DID ASK IF [2:06:05] THE ABUTTING NEIGHBORS COULD [2:06:06] GET THEM FROM THE CITY AND AND [2:06:08] THE ANSWER IS NO. [2:06:09] THE CITY OF REVERE HAS A [2:06:11] PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE HIRED [2:06:12] AN EXTERMINATOR. [2:06:13] SO PEOPLE AT ABUTTING [2:06:14] PROPERTIES, IF THEY'VE SEEN [2:06:15] RATS COME ONTO THEIR PROPERTY, [2:06:17] THEY CAN GET THEM. [2:06:18] THE CITY JUST HAS THE [2:06:19] EXTERMINATOR COME OUT AND PUT [2:06:21] THEM IN FOR THE PEOPLE. [2:06:22] UM, I DO THINK WE NEED TO DO [2:06:24] MORE TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS [2:06:26] INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING WHEN YOU [2:06:27] BRING THE TRASH OUT IF THE [2:06:29] TRASH IS IN THE ALLEYWAY OR THE [2:06:30] TRASH IS ON THE CURB, THE RATS [2:06:32] ARE STILL GETTING ACCESS TO [2:06:33] THAT TRASH AND WE NEED TO STOP [2:06:35] PUTTING UM, THE BURDEN ON OUR [2:06:40] NEIGHBORS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING [2:06:42] EVERYTHING THEY CAN FOR THE [2:06:43] MOST PART. [2:06:43] THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE DOING [2:06:45] A LOT OF GOOD. [2:06:45] I THINK THAT THE BIG PLAYERS [2:06:47] THE BIG DEVELOPERS, THE THE [2:06:50] ELKS WHO PAY NO ATTENTION, WHO [2:06:52] DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO THE [2:06:54] NEIGHBORS THEY'RE IN THERE TO [2:06:55] MAKE THEIR MONEY. [2:06:55] THEY DON'T CARE IF THERE'S [2:06:57] RATS. [2:06:57] WE NEED TO BE HARDER ON THEM. [2:06:59] THANK YOU. [2:07:01] THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [2:07:04] THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. [2:07:06] IT'S. [2:07:09] HI. [2:07:10] YOU'RE UP NEXT. [2:07:11] OKAY. [2:07:12] HI. [2:07:12] I'M ALICIA. [2:07:13] MANNING AND I LIVE ON BEACON [2:07:15] HILL AND I'VE BEEN THERE. [2:07:17] OVER 30 YEARS. [2:07:19] AND THE RATS HAVE DEFINITELY [2:07:22] GOTTEN MUCH WORSE THERE. [2:07:24] UM, I TO ECHO THAT WE NEED A [2:07:28] RATS ARE RIGHT. [2:07:29] UM, AND FOR ALL THE REASONS [2:07:31] THAT I JUST HEARD IN THE TWO [2:07:33] PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, IT REALLY [2:07:35] COMES BACK TO ACCOUNTABILITY. [2:07:38] NOBODY IS RUNNING THE SHOW [2:07:40] HERE. [2:07:40] I'VE LISTENED TO THE PANEL AND [2:07:43] THE PANEL IS DOING A GOOD JOB [2:07:45] WITH THE TOOLS THAT THEY HAVE, [2:07:48] BUT NOBODY'S RUNNING THE SHOW. [2:07:50] EVERYBODY'S COLLECTING DATA OR [2:07:53] TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM [2:07:56] WITH THE RESOURCES THAT THEY [2:07:57] HAVE, BUT NOBODY'S SORT [2:07:59] OF DEALING WITH THE BIG BEAR IN [2:08:00] THE ROOM WHICH TO ME SEEMS TO [2:08:02] BE PUBLIC WORKS AND GETTING [2:08:04] THEM AT THE TABLE AND GETTING [2:08:07] THEM TO HELP THE RESIDENTS DEAL [2:08:09] WITH THE ISSUE, WHICH IS NOT [2:08:12] PUTTING THE FOOD OUT BETWEEN 8 [2:08:14] P.M. AND 5 A.M. WHICH YOU'VE [2:08:18] GOT THE DATA YOU KNOW THAT [2:08:20] THAT'S WHEN THE RATS ARE OUT [2:08:21] THERE EATING. [2:08:24] SO WHY ARE WE PUTTING FOOD OUT [2:08:27] THERE FOR THEM? [2:08:28] IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSANE. [2:08:31] SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO [2:08:33] JUST DEAL WITH THE PROBLEM AND [2:08:35] STOP DEALING WITH THE SYMPTOMS [2:08:38] . [2:08:39] COMING UP WITH FANCIER [2:08:40] CONTAINERS. [2:08:42] CATCH THINGS AND SEWERS UH, [2:08:45] MORE GAS. [2:08:46] I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL PROBLEMS [2:08:48] TO DEAL WITH THE SYMPTOMS AND I [2:08:51] UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE I'VE HAD [2:08:52] THOSE SOLUTIONS COME INTO MY [2:08:54] NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THERE HAVE [2:08:55] BEEN PROBLEMS. [2:08:56] BUT THE ISSUE IS TO REALLY DEAL [2:08:59] WITH THE ROOT CAUSE AND THE [2:09:01] CAUSE IS THE FOOD AND WE'VE GOT [2:09:04] TO STOP PUTTING IT OUT. [2:09:06] SO THAT'S ALL I'M GOING TO SAY. [2:09:08] THANK YOU. [2:09:09] THANK YOU FOR YOUR IMPORTANT [2:09:10] TESTIMONY. [2:09:10] GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. [2:09:15] GOOD MORNING. [2:09:17] HI. [2:09:17] GOOD AFTERNOON. [2:09:18] MY NAME IS LEXI GROSS. [2:09:20] I LIVE AT 41 HASKELL IN [2:09:22] ALLSTON. [2:09:23] I'M SORT OF SURPRISED I'M THE [2:09:24] ONLY ONE HERE FROM ALLSTON. [2:09:26] FIRST. [2:09:27] JOHN, I'M VERY SORRY ABOUT YOUR [2:09:29] SON. [2:09:30] MY DOG HAD LEPTOSPIROSIS AND I [2:09:32] CAN'T EVEN IMAGINE WHAT IT [2:09:33] WOULD BE LIKE FOR YOUR OWN [2:09:34] CHILD. [2:09:35] I'M REALLY SORRY, BUT YOU LOOK [2:09:36] PRETTY GOOD, MAN. [2:09:37] KEEP IT UP, KEEP IT UP. [2:09:40] ALL RIGHT. [2:09:41] UM, ONE QUICK NOTE HERE. [2:09:45] SIX BITES PER SECOND AT 7000FT2 [2:09:50] . [2:09:50] THAT'S WHAT WE LEARNED AT THE [2:09:51] RAT SUMMIT. [2:09:52] HOW MUCH A BITE OF A RAT GOES [2:09:54] THROUGH. [2:09:55] SO OUR OUR LITTLE HEFTY TRASH [2:09:57] BAGS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY [2:09:58] ROUGH. [2:09:59] SO, UM, MY THANK YOU, [2:10:01] COUNCILOR FLYNN. [2:10:02] THANK YOU, LIZ BREADON, FOR, [2:10:03] UH, CO-CHAIRING THIS. [2:10:06] I'VE LIVED IN BOSTON LITERALLY [2:10:08] LIVED IN THE CITY FOR 25 YEARS [2:10:11] 16 AS A HOMEOWNER IN KENMORE [2:10:12] SQUARE THE PAST SIX IN ALLSTON [2:10:14] ,BRIGHTON. [2:10:15] I'VE WORKED WITH IAG'S [2:10:17] NEIGHBORHOOD COMMITTEES, [2:10:18] PARTICULARLY AROUND THE THE [2:10:19] DEVELOPMENT AND IMPACT [2:10:22] OF DEVELOPMENT ON OUR [2:10:23] NEIGHBORHOODS WITH SPECIFICALLY [2:10:25] WITH THE RATS. [2:10:26] I'M ALSO AN APPOINTED MEMBER [2:10:28] OF THE HEALTH AND HARVARD TASK [2:10:29] FORCE, AND I'VE WORKED WITH THE [2:10:31] UNIVERSITY AS WELL AS THE RAT [2:10:34] RANGERS ON RODENT MITIGATION. [2:10:36] I HOLD A MASTER'S IN POLITICAL [2:10:38] COMMUNICATION AND FOR OVER 20 [2:10:39] YEARS MY WORK HAS INCLUDED [2:10:41] PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS AND [2:10:43] COMMUNITY MANAGED COMMUNITY [2:10:44] MANAGEMENT AND COMMUNICATION. [2:10:46] ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IS THAT [2:10:47] THE BEST COMMUNICATION [2:10:49] SORRY THE BEST PUBLIC [2:10:50] INITIATIVES CANNOT SUCCEED [2:10:51] WITHOUT EFFECTIVE COMMUNICATION [2:10:53] AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. [2:10:55] I RECENTLY HAD THE PRIVILEGE. [2:10:56] THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING IN [2:10:58] THE SECOND ANNUAL RAT URBAN [2:11:00] SUMMIT. [2:11:01] I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW [2:11:03] IMPRESSED I WAS BY WHAT BOSTON [2:11:06] IS DOING YOU GUYS. [2:11:07] THAT'S WHAT I LEARNED I WITH [2:11:08] WITH SEE IF SHE WERE HERE. [2:11:11] WE I REALLY WANT TO RECOGNIZE [2:11:12] WHAT MAYOR WU WAS DOING. [2:11:14] JOHN YOU AND YOUR TEAM ARE [2:11:16] PHENOMENAL WHAT YOU GUYS ARE [2:11:18] DOING. [2:11:18] WE ARE LEADING ACTUALLY QUITE [2:11:21] EXTRAORDINARILY IN THE WORLD. [2:11:23] YOU GUYS ARE SOME OF THE MOST [2:11:25] INCREDIBLE RAT MITIGATION [2:11:27] PROCESSES. [2:11:29] I YOU KNOW, THE INTERNET AND [2:11:30] INTER DEPARTMENTAL [2:11:32] COLLABORATION EXPERTISE [2:11:34] INNOVATION AND THE COMMITMENT [2:11:35] TO PUBLIC HEALTH. [2:11:36] THIS IS A MODEL THAT PEOPLE [2:11:37] FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN THE [2:11:39] WORLD ARE LEARNING FROM. [2:11:41] WE DO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO [2:11:43] BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL CENTER [2:11:45] FOR RODENT RESEARCH, INCLUDING [2:11:47] THE WHOLE AI COMMUNICATION [2:11:49] GOING ON AND THE DEVELOPING [2:11:51] OF SAFER ALTERNATIVES TO [2:11:53] RODENTICIDE. [2:11:54] WE'VE ALSO BECOME REALLY, [2:11:56] REALLY IMPORTANT WITH OUR [2:11:57] ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS AND [2:11:58] OUR REGULATORY FRAMEWORK AS WE [2:12:00] LEARNED THAT OUR YOU KNOW, [2:12:02] BIRDS ARE RAPTOR BIRDS ARE [2:12:04] ALMOST 80% INFECTED NOW WITH [2:12:06] RODENTICIDES. [2:12:07] BUT YOU KNOW, RATS DON'T [2:12:09] RESPECT PROPERTY LINES [2:12:11] NEIGHBORHOOD BOUNDARIES OR OUR [2:12:12] MISCIBLE BORDERS. [2:12:13] THIS SIMPLY ISN'T A RAT CITY [2:12:16] PROBLEM WHICH BY THE WAY I HAVE [2:12:18] A PROBLEM WITH TOO. [2:12:19] IT'S A GREATER BOSTON PROBLEM. [2:12:21] PUBLIC HEALTH REQUIREMENT THAT [2:12:22] WERE WAS REALLY NEEDS ACROSS. [2:12:29] THE STATE HOLISTIC REGIONAL [2:12:32] APPROACH. [2:12:33] WE HAVE TWO OPPORTUNITIES ONE [2:12:34] WE NEED THE PUBLIC HEALTH [2:12:36] COMMUNICATION GUYS WE ALREADY [2:12:37] HAVE THE TOOLS 311 HEAT MAPS [2:12:39] NEIGHBORHOOD DATA TRACKING BUT [2:12:41] THE DATA WON'T CHANGE OUR [2:12:43] BEHAVIOR. [2:12:43] WE NEED A COORDINATED [2:12:45] MULTILINGUAL COMMUNITY [2:12:47] COMMUNICATION STRATEGY REACHING [2:12:48] THE LANDLORDS, THE TENANTS, [2:12:50] STUDENTS, UNIVERSITIES, [2:12:52] RESTAURANTS AND BUSINESSES AND [2:12:53] NOT JUST BOSTON REGIONALLY, [2:12:56] CAMBRIDGE WANTS TO WORK WITH [2:12:57] US. [2:12:57] BROOKLINE WANTS TO WORK WITH [2:12:58] US. [2:12:58] THERE WAS SO MUCH GOODWILL OUT [2:13:00] THERE. [2:13:01] WELLESLEY WANTS TO WORK WITH US [2:13:02] WHERE I GREW UP WITH A HUGE RAT [2:13:04] PROBLEM THERE. [2:13:05] MY MOM WAS HEAD OF NATURAL [2:13:06] RESOURCES FOR A WHILE. [2:13:08] SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU ONE [2:13:09] PERSONAL EXAMPLE AND I'M GOING [2:13:11] TO BE DONE. [2:13:11] BUT I HAVE TO CALL OUT THE [2:13:13] WOMAN WHO JUST SPOKE. [2:13:14] I DIDN'T MEAN TO LAUGH BUT I'VE [2:13:16] GOT DISNEY WORLD BEHIND MY [2:13:17] HOUSE. [2:13:18] OKAY. [2:13:19] I WOULDN'T SAY OUR NEIGHBOR [2:13:20] JUST BOUGHT A THREE WHAT USED [2:13:22] TO BE SIX PEOPLE IN THE HOUSE [2:13:23] NOW THERE'S 12. [2:13:24] THEY HAVE NOT MANY TRASH CANS. [2:13:27] BASICALLY I'VE COMMUNICATED [2:13:29] MANY TIMES. [2:13:30] THANK YOU. [2:13:32] CAN CAN YOU WRAP IT UP? [2:13:34] YES. [2:13:35] WE NEED TO HAVE THESE [2:13:36] LANDLORDS THESE ABSENTEE [2:13:37] LANDLORDS BE ACCOUNTABLE NOT [2:13:38] GIVEN ANY MORE YOU KNOW [2:13:41] CONSTRUCTION PERMITS UNTIL THEY [2:13:43] CLEAN UP. [2:13:43] HOW MANY TIMES CAN YOU TICKET [2:13:45] SOMEONE 25 BUCKS THEY'RE GOING [2:13:46] TO STOP IT. [2:13:47] I HAVE RATS COMING INTO MY [2:13:49] CHILDREN'S BIKES INTO THEIR [2:13:51] ROOMS. [2:13:51] OUR WHOLE ENTIRE HOUSE IS [2:13:53] INFESTED AND IT IS NOT GOING TO [2:13:54] STOP UNTIL YOU GUYS TOLD THOSE [2:13:57] LANDLORDS ACCOUNTABLE. [2:13:59] THANK YOU. [2:14:04] MY DOG KILLS THEM. [2:14:07] OKAY. [2:14:10] I BELIEVE WE STILL HAVE THREE [2:14:13] PEOPLE ON THE ZOOM THAT WANT TO [2:14:17] TESTIFY. [2:14:17] AND THEN I'M GOING TO GO TO ONE [2:14:19] FINAL ROUND WITH UM THE [2:14:20] REMAINING CITY [2:14:22] COUNCIL COLLEAGUES. [2:14:24] UM BUT IS VALERIE STILL WITH US [2:14:27] ON ZOOM? [2:14:37] MA'AM, DID YOU MENTIONED RATS [2:14:39] WERE COMING INTO YOU INTO THE [2:14:40] ROOM? [2:14:41] JUST COMING ALL THE WAY BACK. [2:14:43] INTO THE HOUSE. [2:14:44] ON THE SECOND FLOOR LOOKING FOR [2:14:46] A BETTER OKAY. [2:14:48] THE COMING INTO YOUR HOUSE. [2:14:50] FOR US. [2:14:50] WE. [2:14:53] OKAY? [2:15:00] OKAY, OKAY. [2:15:02] UM, COULD WE ASK TRACY IF SHE'D [2:15:04] LIKE TO TESTIFY? [2:15:08] GOOD AFTERNOON. [2:15:08] TRACY. [2:15:29] UM. [2:15:30] TRACY, I THINK YOU MIGHT [2:15:31] HAVE TO ACCEPT AS A PANELIST [2:15:33] AND YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE MUTED [2:15:35] IF YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF, BUT [2:15:37] YOU'RE UP NEXT. [2:15:38] TRACY. [2:15:39] ACCEPT AS A PANELIST. [2:15:51] HI, TRACY. [2:15:56] TRACY, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. [2:15:57] YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE. [2:16:06] HEY, TRACY, WE. [2:16:07] CAN'T HEAR YOU. [2:16:07] YOU MIGHT BE ON MUTE. [2:16:23] UH. [2:16:24] TRACY. [2:16:40] WELL IN THE MEANTIME WE'LL [2:16:41] GO WE'LL GO TO CITY [2:16:42] COUNCIL TESTIMONY. [2:16:43] UM, FINISH WITH THE QUESTIONS. [2:16:45] UM. [2:16:50] OKAY. [2:16:50] SHE'S NOT ABLE TO UNMUTE. [2:16:55] OKAY, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO. [2:16:57] TRACY I DON'T THINK WE WERE [2:16:59] ABLE TO GET TO YOU. [2:17:00] UH, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A [2:17:02] TECHNOLOGY ISSUE. [2:17:03] UM, IS VALERIE THERE OR KELLY? [2:17:11] VALERIE OR KELLY? [2:17:18] ACCEPT AS A PANELIST AND [2:17:20] UNMUTE. [2:17:28] HI, KELLY. [2:17:29] I'M HERE. [2:17:30] HI, KELLY. [2:17:30] YOU'RE UP. [2:17:32] THANK YOU. [2:17:33] I WANT. [2:17:34] TO THANK. [2:17:34] EVERYONE FOR. [2:17:35] LETTING ME SPEAK TODAY. [2:17:37] UM, MY. [2:17:37] NAME IS. [2:17:38] KELLY MCGRATH AND. [2:17:39] I'M THE. [2:17:39] EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF. [2:17:41] BRIGHT MAIN STREETS. [2:17:42] UM, IN AUSTIN. [2:17:42] RIGHT. [2:17:43] AND BRIGHTON. [2:17:44] I'M SORRY. [2:17:45] I'M HERE. [2:17:45] BECAUSE RATS ARE A BUSINESS [2:17:47] CARD. [2:17:47] ISSUE, NOT JUST A. [2:17:48] RESIDENTIAL ONE. [2:17:49] UH, SMALL BUSINESSES, [2:17:51] ESPECIALLY FOOD BUSINESSES LIVE [2:17:52] WITH THE CONSEQUENCES EVERY DAY [2:17:55] OVERFLOWING DUMPSTERS. [2:17:56] TRASH OUT SET OUT OVERNIGHT AND [2:17:58] BURROWS ALONG THE COMMERCIAL [2:17:59] BLOCKS. [2:18:00] AND BRIGHTON. [2:18:02] IS CONSISTENTLY AMONG THE [2:18:03] NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE HIGHEST [2:18:04] 311 RAT COMPLAINTS IN THE CITY [2:18:06] AND I CARD FAILED TO PRESSURE [2:18:08] DIRECTLY. [2:18:08] I'LL INCLUDE AUSTIN IN THAT AS [2:18:10] WELL. [2:18:11] RIGHT MAIN STREETS IS TRYING BY [2:18:13] BRINGING THE ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM [2:18:15] TO THE DISTRICT FOR WALKS WHICH [2:18:16] WE'VE DONE MANY TIMES. [2:18:18] UM WE HAVE USED THE 311 SYSTEM [2:18:21] AS WELL AND WE ALWAYS DO GET [2:18:23] GREAT RESPONSES AND WE'RE [2:18:24] APPRECIATIVE OF THAT AND WE'RE [2:18:26] ALSO TRYING TO BUILD A [2:18:27] REPORTING CULTURE ON THE [2:18:28] CORRIDOR. [2:18:30] UM BUT WE ALL KNOW IT ONLY [2:18:32] WORKS IF YOU KNOW THE RESPONSE [2:18:33] WE KEPT AT PACE. [2:18:36] AS YOU. [2:18:37] AS WE REVIEW THE STATUS OF THE [2:18:38] ROAD AN ACTION PLAN WE HOPE [2:18:39] ENFORCEMENT AND FOLLOW THROUGH [2:18:41] REACH THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS [2:18:42] WITH THE SAME URGENCY AS [2:18:44] RESIDENTIAL BLOCKS AND KEEP [2:18:45] REPORTING BACK TO THE DISTRICTS [2:18:47] ON WHAT THE DATA SHOWS. [2:18:48] UH BUSINESSES WILL DO THEIR [2:18:50] PART ON SANITATION, BUT WE NEED [2:18:52] A PLAN TO MEET US THERE. [2:18:55] WE REPRESENT THE SMALL [2:18:56] BUSINESSES OF AUSTIN BRIGHTON'S [2:18:57] COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. [2:18:58] WE ASK THE COMMITTEE TO ENSURE [2:18:59] THE ROAD AND ACTION PLANS [2:19:01] ENFORCEMENT AND FOLLOW THROUGH [2:19:02] REACH COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS WITH [2:19:04] THE SAME URGENCY AS THE [2:19:06] RESIDENTS AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO [2:19:10] HELP BY DOING THE WALKS DURING [2:19:12] THE 311 REPORTING AND HOPEFULLY [2:19:15] BE ABLE TO PILOT SOME PROGRAMS [2:19:17] WITH THESE NEW TRASH BARRELS [2:19:18] AND THOSE DUMPSTERS THAT I'VE [2:19:20] SEEN AT COMMONWEALTH FIDELIS [2:19:21] AND I'M SO IMPRESSED BY. [2:19:23] THANK YOU. [2:19:24] THANK YOU KELLY. [2:19:25] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR [2:19:27] TESTIMONY. [2:19:27] GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. [2:19:35] I THINK I THINK TRACY MIGHT BE [2:19:38] ON WITH US. [2:19:52] TRACY. [2:19:53] JUST ONCE. [2:19:54] OKAY. [2:19:54] WE LOST TRACY. [2:19:56] ELLEN. [2:19:58] ELLEN, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO [2:20:00] ACCEPT AS A PANELIST AND UNMUTE [2:20:02] PLEASE. [2:20:05] AND I THINK THAT WILL BE IT FOR [2:20:07] PUBLIC TESTIMONY AFTER ELLEN. [2:20:26] OH, ELLEN. [2:20:30] OKAY. [2:20:30] WE'LL GET A WE'RE GOING TO [2:20:31] GO RIGHT TO CITY COUNCIL. [2:20:33] UM FINAL ROUND OF QUESTIONING. [2:20:35] UH, DO APOLOGIZE ABOUT THE [2:20:39] TECHNOLOGY MIX UP HERE. [2:20:41] UH, WE HAD SOME TECHNOLOGY, UH [2:20:43] ,CHALLENGES AT THE VERY [2:20:44] BEGINNING. [2:20:45] THE CITY SITE WAS DOWN AND IT [2:20:48] IMPACTED US AS WELL. [2:20:50] BUT LET ME GO TO, UM [2:20:52] COUNCILOR BREADON, UM, FOR A [2:20:55] FINAL ROUND OF QUESTIONING. [2:20:57] I'M GOING TO GIVE EACH CITY [2:20:59] COUNCIL A THREE MINUTES, BUT I [2:21:00] AM NOT GOING TO CUT OFF THE, UM [2:21:02] ,THE CITY COUNCIL OR THE, UH [2:21:05] PERSON UH UM ANSWERING THE [2:21:08] QUESTION. [2:21:08] COUNCIL? [2:21:08] BREADON, YOU'RE UP NEXT. [2:21:10] UM THANK YOU. [2:21:11] COUNCILOR FLYNN AND. [2:21:12] THANK YOU TO ALL THE FOLKS [2:21:13] WHO'VE TAKEN TIME TO TESTIFY [2:21:15] THIS MORNING. [2:21:16] UM. [2:21:17] AND ALLSTON BRIGHTON. [2:21:18] YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE [2:21:19] HOTSPOTS. [2:21:20] UM, ALLSTON VILLAGE UH, ONE [2:21:22] QUESTION WAS, UH, THE RULE AND [2:21:24] PROOF TRASHCANS WE WERE [2:21:26] PROMISED THEM LAST YEAR. [2:21:27] ASKED ABOUT IT THIS YEAR. [2:21:28] STILL NOT COMING? [2:21:30] UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT [2:21:31] PUT IT PUT IT OUT. [2:21:32] YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO BE [2:21:34] CONSISTENT IF IT'S A PRIORITY [2:21:35] FOR ALLISON BRIGHTON, UM, THEN [2:21:38] WE SHOULD BE GETTING A ROAD AND [2:21:39] PRICE TAG OF TIME. [2:21:40] UH, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE I'VE [2:21:41] GOT WE'VE GOT THREE MINUTES, SO [2:21:43] I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT [2:21:44] THERE. [2:21:44] UH, IN TERMS OF THE COMPOSTING [2:21:46] ,THE FOOD, THE CURBSIDE [2:21:48] COMPOSTING IS INCREDIBLY [2:21:50] POPULAR. [2:21:51] UH, I KNOW THERE'S A CHANGE IN [2:21:52] THE IN THE PROTOCOL RIGHT NOW [2:21:54] IT'S GOING TO GO TO EVERY OTHER [2:21:55] WEEK. [2:21:55] ARE WE GOING TO DO SOME LIKE [2:21:57] GET SOME DATA ON. [2:21:59] UH LIKE I'M ANTICIPATING [2:22:00] THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE FOOD [2:22:02] IN THE TRASH AGAIN AND WE'RE [2:22:03] GOING TO SEE MORE RODENTS. [2:22:04] UM ARE WE GOING TO TRY AND DO A [2:22:06] LITTLE PILOT STUDY AND JUST TO [2:22:07] FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING [2:22:08] WITH THAT? [2:22:09] I THINK IT'S. [2:22:09] A GREAT SUGGESTION. [2:22:10] UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'RE [2:22:11] WORKING. [2:22:11] ON WITH. [2:22:12] UH, PUBLIC. [2:22:12] WORKS TO EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT [2:22:13] FURTHER. [2:22:14] UM, TO YOUR POINT AROUND UM. [2:22:15] KIND OF A LOT OF PEOPLE [2:22:16] INTERESTED. [2:22:17] IN THIS PROGRAM, ONE OF THE [2:22:18] REASONS WE WENT TO BIWEEKLY WAS [2:22:20] TO EXPAND THE NUMBER [2:22:21] OF PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROGRAM. [2:22:22] SO DOING THAT ALLOWED US TO [2:22:24] ACTUALLY EXPAND, UH. [2:22:25] AND INCORPORATE ANOTHER 1100 UH [2:22:27] RESIDENTS INTO THAT PILOT [2:22:28] PROGRAM. [2:22:28] THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH ROOM FOR [2:22:30] ROOM IN THE FREEZER. [2:22:31] NO TO KEEP THE FOOD TO THE NEXT [2:22:33] WEEK. [2:22:34] UM. [2:22:34] ONE OF OUR TEST ONE OF OUR, UH [2:22:38] ,CONSTITUENTS TALKED ABOUT BAD [2:22:39] LANDLORDS AND, UH, THE FACT [2:22:42] THAT THESE LANDLORDS ARE [2:22:43] PERPETUAL OFFENDERS AND THAT [2:22:45] THEY KEEP COMING BACK AND GET [2:22:47] ZONING RELIEF. [2:22:48] UM, OUR OFFICE IS JUST I'VE [2:22:50] JUST FILED A BAD LANDLORDS [2:22:52] ORDINANCE AND ONE OF THE, UH, [2:22:54] TEETH IN THE ORDINANCE IS THAT [2:22:56] IF YOU'RE A CHRONIC OFFENDER, A [2:22:57] BAD LANDLORD THAT ARE IS UH, IS [2:23:01] CONSTANTLY, UH, NOT COMPLYING [2:23:02] WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT RULES [2:23:05] ETC. THAT IF YOU COME BACK TO [2:23:07] THE ZONING BOARD THAT WILL SAY [2:23:08] EXCUSE ME NO GO AWAY, FIX UP [2:23:11] YOUR ISSUES AND COME BACK AND [2:23:13] WE'LL TALK TO YOU. [2:23:14] BUT I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE [2:23:16] SOME REALLY, REALLY TEETH IN [2:23:17] THERE AND I THINK THAT'S ONE [2:23:18] OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE [2:23:19] MISSING HERE IN TERMS OF WE [2:23:21] HAVE CHRONIC OFFENDERS THAT ARE [2:23:22] JUST NOT UM DELIVERING IN TERMS [2:23:25] OF QUALITY SERVICE, UM AND NOT [2:23:27] COMPLYING WITH OUR [2:23:29] CODE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY [2:23:30] JUST GET A FREE PASS. [2:23:32] AND THEN ALSO JOHN, I KNOW [2:23:34] WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS [2:23:35] CONVERSATION YEARLY I THIS IS [2:23:37] MY SEVENTH YEAR I THINK A [2:23:38] PRINTER HERE FOR SEVEN YEARS IN [2:23:40] THE EARLY TALKS WE TALKED ABOUT [2:23:43] FINES AND YOU SAID THE FINES [2:23:45] ALSO KNOWN THAT'S JUST THE COST [2:23:46] OF DOING BUSINESS. [2:23:47] WELL ONE AS A CONSEQUENCE [2:23:49] OF THOSE COMMENTS FROM YOU AND [2:23:50] OTHERS WE WENT AND GOT A FORMAL [2:23:53] PETITION PASSED AT THE STATE [2:23:55] HOUSE TO RAISE THE MAXIMUM FINE [2:23:57] TO $2,000 AND FOR CHRONIC [2:23:59] OFFENDERS PEOPLE ARE JUST NOT [2:24:01] DOING WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. [2:24:02] ARE WE ENFORCING THE RULES AND [2:24:04] WE CHANGE THE FINES AND ARE [2:24:06] REINFORCING THAT NEW STRUCTURE? [2:24:08] SO I WE DO NOT ISSUE FINES OUR [2:24:12] UH VIOLATIONS ENFORCING IT'S [2:24:14] CODE ENFORCEMENT. [2:24:14] AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE [2:24:16] THEY'RE ACTUALLY AT WITH THE [2:24:18] THE ORDINANCE AND THE CHANGE [2:24:20] OF OF THE COST OF OF FINES THEY [2:24:24] ENFORCE VERY SIMILAR CODES. [2:24:26] AND SO TOGETHER WITH THE UM THE [2:24:29] ISSUE OF THE FINE IN WITH UH [2:24:31] VIOLATIONS UH WHEN IT INVOLVES [2:24:33] RODENTS. [2:24:35] UM THAT CASE MOVING FORWARD TO [2:24:37] HOUSING COURT IS REALLY THE [2:24:38] BEST WAY TO RESOLVE IT. [2:24:40] UM, YEAH. [2:24:42] SO I'LL I'LL FOLLOW. [2:24:44] UP ON THAT. [2:24:45] I THOUGHT YEAH. [2:24:45] I CAN YEAH PLEASE. [2:24:46] BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IT TOOK US [2:24:48] TWO YEARS TO GET THAT HOME RULE [2:24:49] PETITION PASSED. [2:24:50] IT'S NO SMALL THING. [2:24:51] UM, I WOULD WOULD LIKE TO SEE [2:24:53] ACTUALLY SOME RETURN ON THE IN [2:24:55] THE EFFORT. [2:24:57] UM, AND THEN ONE LAST THING IN [2:24:58] TERMS OF ALLSTON IT'S IS ONE [2:25:01] OF THOSE UH UM WHEN WILL THERE [2:25:03] BE A REASSESSMENT OF ITS [2:25:05] PRIORITY AS A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA [2:25:07] THAT NEEDS ATTENTION AND WHAT [2:25:08] SORT OF METRICS WILL WE HAVE TO [2:25:11] SAY THAT OKAY, WE'VE WE'VE GOT [2:25:13] THE PROBLEM SORTED. [2:25:15] UH, THANK YOU FOR RAISING THAT. [2:25:17] UM, ONE THING THAT WE DISCUSSED [2:25:19] IN GREAT DETAIL WITH DOCTOR [2:25:20] CORRIGAN WHEN HE WAS HERE FOR [2:25:21] THE NATIONAL RAT SUMMIT WAS [2:25:22] ACTUALLY WORKING TOGETHER WITH [2:25:24] NEW YORK OVER THE NEXT MANY [2:25:25] MONTHS UM, PROBABLY THE NEXT [2:25:27] YEAR TO REALLY, UH, BETTER [2:25:28] UNDERSTAND WHAT ARE THE TEN, [2:25:29] UH, FACTORS THAT LEAD TO [2:25:31] INCREASED RODENT POPULATION AND [2:25:33] RAT HABITATS? [2:25:34] UH, AND I THINK AFTER WE KIND [2:25:35] OF WORKED TOGETHER, UM, BETWEEN [2:25:37] SITES IN NEW YORK AND SITES [2:25:38] HERE IN BOSTON WHERE WE'RE [2:25:39] EXPERIENCING CHALLENGES AND [2:25:40] COMPARE FINDINGS, I THINK THOSE [2:25:42] FACTORS WILL HELP US KIND [2:25:43] OF REASSESS SOME OF THESE PAN [2:25:44] NEIGHBORHOODS AS YOU'RE [2:25:45] MENTIONING. [2:25:46] UM, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU [2:25:47] BROUGHT UP EARLIER WAS THE WORK [2:25:48] AT RINGER PARK. [2:25:49] RINGER PARK IS ONE EXAMPLE [2:25:51] OF KIND OF OUR EFFORTS UH, [2:25:52] ALLSTON BRIGHTON WIDE. [2:25:54] UM WE'RE DEPLOYING OUR OUR OUR [2:25:55] MACHINE THERE UH REGULARLY AS [2:25:58] WELL AS MEASURING THE IMPACT [2:25:59] OF THAT MACHINE USING THE BASIC [2:26:01] AI TOOLS AND I THINK SITES LIKE [2:26:03] THAT WILL KIND OF HELP US MAKE [2:26:04] A LONG TERM ANALYSIS OF WHERE [2:26:06] WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO DEVOTE [2:26:08] RESOURCES AND THEN WHERE WE CAN [2:26:09] REALLOCATE RESOURCES DEPENDING [2:26:10] ON THE SEVERITY OF THE PROBLEM [2:26:11] . [2:26:12] I THINK RINGER PARK IS A CASE [2:26:14] IN POINT RIGHT ACROSS THE FENCE [2:26:15] FROM RINGER PARK WAS THERE ON A [2:26:17] WALK RECENTLY. [2:26:18] THERE ARE UM THERE'S THERE'S [2:26:21] BUILDINGS UM IN WHICH THE [2:26:23] MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ARE NOT [2:26:25] DISPOSING OF THEIR TRASH [2:26:26] APPROPRIATELY. [2:26:27] SO THERE'S A BUFFET RIGHT [2:26:28] ACROSS THE FENCE AND THEN YOU [2:26:30] HAVE A NICE WOODED AREA WITH [2:26:31] PROVIDES LOTS OF COVER UH, FOR [2:26:33] FOR RODENTS TO LIVE AND I THINK [2:26:36] . [2:26:37] WE NEED WE NEED TO START HAVING [2:26:39] OUR MANAGEMENT COMPANIES AND [2:26:40] OUR LANDLORDS DO THEIR FAIR [2:26:42] SHARE TO HELP MAKE IT ADDRESS [2:26:44] THIS PROBLEM BECAUSE, UH, WE [2:26:46] CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT THEIR [2:26:47] COOPERATION AND IF WE HAVE TO [2:26:49] FORCE THEM TO DO IT, THEN WE'RE [2:26:50] GOING TO HAVE TO FORCE THEM TO [2:26:51] DO IT. [2:26:51] BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S THIS IS AS [2:26:53] SOMEBODY SAID, A REALLY SERIOUS [2:26:55] PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. [2:26:57] UH, IF ANIMALS, PETS AND AND [2:27:01] INDIVIDUALS ADULTS, HUMAN [2:27:02] BEINGS ARE GETTING UP TO [2:27:04] LEPTOSPIROSIS AND UH IT'S A [2:27:07] QUALITY OF ISSUE QUALITY [2:27:08] OF LIFE ISSUE BUT IT'S ALSO A [2:27:09] PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE. [2:27:10] YEAH SO RIGGER PARK UM I THINK [2:27:13] THERE'S THREE PROPERTY [2:27:15] MANAGEMENT COMPANIES ON THE [2:27:16] OTHER SIDE OF THAT FENCE. [2:27:17] YEAH. [2:27:18] WHICH UH I BELIEVE WE HAVE OPEN [2:27:19] CASES FOR ALL THREE OF THEM [2:27:21] WHERE WE'RE GOING TO HOLD THE [2:27:23] CASE OPEN SOME THE CHALLENGE [2:27:25] WOULD TRASH IS THAT THE [2:27:28] VIOLATION? [2:27:28] THEY CAN CLEAN UP THE TRASH. [2:27:30] UM, BUT BECAUSE IT'S AN ONGOING [2:27:32] ISSUE, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THE [2:27:34] CASE OPEN, HAVE THEM ALL COME [2:27:36] IN FOR A HEARING. [2:27:37] THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS ALSO [2:27:38] INVESTING MONEY INTO THE URBAN [2:27:40] WILDS TO CLEAR OUT SOME OF THE [2:27:42] DEBRIS TO GIVE MY TEAM ACCESS [2:27:44] TO THE BURROWS SO WE CAN USE [2:27:46] THE MACHINE. [2:27:47] AND THEN WE'RE MEASURING WITH [2:27:49] THE TOOLS OF BASIS AI TO SEE [2:27:52] THE IMPACT THAT WE'RE HAVING [2:27:54] WITH THAT MACHINE. [2:27:55] SO HOPEFULLY WE SEE A HUGE [2:27:57] IMPROVEMENT UH VERY SOON. [2:27:59] THANK YOU. [2:28:00] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. [2:28:00] THANK YOU. [2:28:01] THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT [2:28:02] . [2:28:02] UM, I'M GOING TO COUNCIL. [2:28:04] I'M HERE. [2:28:04] COUNCILMEMBER HERE. [2:28:05] YOU'RE UP. [2:28:06] THANK YOU. [2:28:07] UM, SO. [2:28:09] I'M CURIOUS UH. [2:28:11] I HEARD ABOUT. [2:28:12] UM. [2:28:13] THE SITUATION WITH THE. [2:28:15] WITH THE YOUNG UM WITH THE. [2:28:17] WITH THE CHILD. [2:28:19] WELL. [2:28:19] THE YOUNG PERSON, NOT A CHILD. [2:28:22] UM, AND I'M CURIOUS HOW MANY [2:28:25] MEDICAL, UH, SITUATIONS HAVE [2:28:27] THE HAVE YOU KNOWN ABOUT? [2:28:30] YES. [2:28:31] I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, UM. [2:28:32] DIRECTLY FROM THE BOSTON. [2:28:33] PUBLIC UH. [2:28:34] HEALTH COMMISSION, BUT WHAT I [2:28:36] WOULD SAY IS THAT, UH, IN [2:28:37] COLLABORATION WITH DOCTOR [2:28:38] HAMMERSTEIN WHO'S THE CHIEF [2:28:39] INFECTIOUS DISEASE EXPERT AT [2:28:42] FCPS, UM, SHE'S LET US KNOW [2:28:43] THAT THE CASE NUMBERS ARE [2:28:45] RELATIVELY LOW. [2:28:46] UM, AND TO KIND OF. [2:28:48] HELP PREVENT. [2:28:49] LEPTOSPIROSIS OR OTHER PUBLIC [2:28:50] HEALTH ASSOCIATED DISEASES, THE [2:28:51] BEST WAY IS FOCUSING ON [2:28:53] SANITATION AND THE OTHER [2:28:54] EFFORTS WE'RE DEPLOYING TO [2:28:55] MITIGATE RATS. [2:28:56] NO FILIBUSTERED CAUSE. [2:28:57] I GOT TWO MORE MINUTES LEFT. [2:28:59] UH. [2:28:59] HOLD UP. [2:29:00] I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. [2:29:01] STAY WITH ME OUT OF THESE [2:29:05] MEDICAL EVEN THOUGH THERE IS A [2:29:07] LOW HUM. [2:29:07] UM, HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN PAYING [2:29:09] THE MEDICAL BILLS AND TAKING [2:29:11] CARE OF FOLKS WHO, YOU KNOW, [2:29:14] HAVE HAD TO TAKE TIME OFF OR [2:29:16] LIKE WHAT'S THAT LOOK LIKE IN [2:29:17] TERMS OF OUR OWN [2:29:18] ACCOUNTABILITY? [2:29:18] ARE WE FEELING THE FINANCIAL [2:29:20] IMPACT ON THAT? [2:29:21] I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION, [2:29:23] COUNSELOR. [2:29:23] YEAH BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING A [2:29:25] LOT ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY AND I [2:29:26] REALLY DO THINK THAT ONCE WE [2:29:28] START FILLING IT IN OUR OWN [2:29:29] POCKETS, THEN WE START REALLY [2:29:30] THINKING ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT [2:29:31] IT HAS ON OUR CONSTITUENTS AND [2:29:32] NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO [2:29:34] BE PAYING PEOPLE'S MEDICAL [2:29:35] BILLS, BUT THERE HAS TO BE A [2:29:37] ROLE THAT WE PLAY IN HAVING TO, [2:29:40] YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SOME OF THESE [2:29:43] CONCERNS. [2:29:44] SO I'M GOING TO STICK WITH THE [2:29:45] ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE HERE. [2:29:47] UM, RESTAURANTS LANDLORDS AND [2:29:49] RESIDENTS ARE KIND OF LIKE THE [2:29:50] THREE BUCKETS THAT I SEE IN [2:29:51] TERMS OF LIKE WHAT THIS LOOKS [2:29:53] LIKE UM FEES, FINES ENFORCEMENT [2:29:58] WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE FOR [2:30:00] RESTAURANTS? [2:30:01] WHO'S TRACKING THAT AND HOW [2:30:03] MUCH MONEY ARE WE MAKING TO [2:30:04] HELP SUPPORT THE PREVENTION AND [2:30:07] EDUCATION EFFORTS AS A RESULT. [2:30:09] OF THIS? [2:30:10] SO VIOLATIONS. [2:30:11] UM, IF IF TRASH IS A VIOLATION [2:30:14] WITH RESTAURANT [2:30:16] CODE ENFORCEMENT ISSUES THE [2:30:18] PUNITIVE FINED BY IS THE UH [2:30:20] FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS LICENSED [2:30:22] FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS UH OVERSEEN [2:30:24] BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT UH DAN [2:30:27] PRENDERGAST HIS TEAM AND THEY [2:30:30] ARE INSPECTED REGULARLY UM THEY [2:30:32] HAVE A LICENSE AND UM THEY CAN [2:30:35] WRITE VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE THEY [2:30:37] HAVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THEM. [2:30:39] WHAT DO YOU MEAN NOT. [2:30:41] NOT KNOW LIKE FINANCIAL [2:30:43] VIOLATIONS OR JUST LIKE. [2:30:45] SO I'M TALKING ABOUT MONEY. [2:30:46] I'M TALKING ABOUT LIKE I THINK [2:30:48] THAT PEOPLE RESPOND WHEN THEY [2:30:49] START FEELING THE IMPACT IN [2:30:51] THEIR POCKETS. [2:30:52] AND SO MY QUESTION IS WHETHER [2:30:54] OR NOT RESTAURANTS ARE BEING [2:30:57] FINED FINANCIALLY. [2:31:00] FOR THE HARM THAT THEY ARE [2:31:02] CAUSING THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE [2:31:04] IN AND AROUND THEIR [2:31:05] ESTABLISHMENT. [2:31:06] SO I CAN ADD TO JOHN'S RESPONSE [2:31:09] . [2:31:09] SO EVERY RESTAURANT THAT STORES [2:31:11] TRASH HAS TO APPLY BY THE SITE [2:31:13] COMMUNIST UH PROGRAM AN [2:31:14] ORDINANCE THAT JOHN AND HIS [2:31:15] TEAM UH OVERSEE UH IF A [2:31:17] RESTAURANT DOESN'T HAVE A SITE [2:31:19] CLEANLINESS LICENSE, UH, AND [2:31:21] CODE ENFORCEMENT GOES OUT AND [2:31:22] SEES THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THAT [2:31:23] LICENSE, THEY WILL ISSUE A [2:31:25] $1,000 FINE. [2:31:26] UM. [2:31:26] AND. [2:31:26] HOW MANY DOLLARS HAVE WE HAVE? [2:31:28] UH, LIKE I. [2:31:30] THINK WE'D HAVE TO GET BACK [2:31:30] TO YOU ON THE ANALYSIS OF HOW [2:31:31] MANY FINES THAT IT ISSUED AND [2:31:32] ADD UP THAT MATH FOR. [2:31:33] YEAH, BECAUSE. [2:31:33] I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE [2:31:35] POINT OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE TRYING [2:31:35] TO DO IN TERMS OF INTERVENTION [2:31:37] AND EDUCATION AND PREVENTION [2:31:39] LIKE WE SHOULDN'T ALL JUST COME [2:31:41] FROM THE CITY LIKE THE FOLKS [2:31:43] WHO ARE DOING BUSINESS IN THE [2:31:44] CITY SHOULD PLAY A ROLE IN [2:31:47] HELPING TO SUPPORT THE [2:31:48] RESIDENTS AND THIS ISSUE I'M [2:31:50] JUST GIVING YOU ALL SOMETHING [2:31:52] TO THINK ABOUT. [2:31:53] SAME UH, WITH THE LANDLORDS UM [2:31:56] AND RESIDENTS TOO. [2:31:57] I KNOW THAT IF YOUR GARBAGE IS [2:31:59] OVERFLOWING YOU GET A VIOLATION [2:32:01] AND RESIDENTS HAVE TO PAY IT. [2:32:06] SO CODE ENFORCEMENT, UH, IS THE [2:32:07] ENFORCEMENT AGENCY THAT WOULD [2:32:08] DEAL WITH RESIDENTIAL. [2:32:09] SO RESIDENTIAL FOLKS ARE. [2:32:11] PAYING UM BUT AND LANDLORDS I [2:32:13] KNOW THAT COUNCILOR AND MY TIME [2:32:16] IS UP AND I'M JUST I HAVE SO [2:32:18] MANY MORE QUESTIONS BUT THIS IS [2:32:20] NOT AN ISSUE AND I'LL BE HONEST [2:32:21] WITH YOU MOST OF THE [2:32:22] CONSTITUENTS THAT I SERVE ARE [2:32:25] DEALING WITH ISSUES AROUND [2:32:26] VIOLENCE AND A LOT OF OTHER [2:32:27] ISSUES. [2:32:28] SO THIS IS NOT ONE OF THE [2:32:29] TOPICS THAT I HAVE FOCUSED A [2:32:31] LOT OF MY ENERGY ON. [2:32:32] BUT I WILL SAY I'M GLAD THAT I [2:32:34] CAME TO THIS HEARING BECAUSE [2:32:36] SOME OF THE INFESTATION ARE IN [2:32:38] PEOPLE'S HOMES. [2:32:39] THEY MAY NOT BE BIG OLE RATS [2:32:41] BUT THEY'RE LITTLE MICE. [2:32:42] I KNOW THAT THAT ALSO IS AN [2:32:44] ISSUE AND I THINK THAT THE BIG [2:32:46] RATS HAVE BABIES AND EVERYONE [2:32:49] IS HAVING THE SAME ISSUE. [2:32:50] SO I THINK THAT THE NEXT TIME [2:32:51] WE DO THIS I WOULD LOVE TO SEE [2:32:53] YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE FOLKS [2:32:54] FROM THE HOUSING UM DORCHESTER [2:32:56] ,ROXBURY. [2:32:57] MATTAPAN. [2:32:58] UH, FOLKS COMING HERE TO [2:33:00] TESTIFY AND HAVING THIS AS A [2:33:02] COLLECTIVE CONVERSATION BECAUSE [2:33:04] WHETHER THEY'RE BIG RATS OR [2:33:06] MICE IS STILL AN INFESTATION IS [2:33:08] AN INFAMOUS UM, INFESTATION. [2:33:09] AND SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE AN [2:33:12] OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, UH, [2:33:13] ORGANIZE ACROSS, YOU KNOW, OUR [2:33:16] NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THIS ISSUE [2:33:17] AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AT LEAST [2:33:19] BEING A PART OF THAT [2:33:20] CONVERSATION AND HELPFUL IN ANY [2:33:21] KIND OF WAY. [2:33:22] AND MY TIME IS UP. [2:33:24] SO Y'ALL LUCKY THAT I DON'T I [2:33:26] CAN'T. [2:33:26] GET AT. [2:33:27] YOU OFFER SOME. [2:33:27] MORE QUESTIONS. [2:33:28] THANK THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER [2:33:30] HERE. [2:33:32] I ALSO TAKE UH THREE MINUTES [2:33:35] AND. [2:33:37] WHAT I FOUND MOST VALUABLE [2:33:39] ABOUT THIS HEARING IS THE [2:33:41] PUBLIC TESTIMONY FROM RESIDENTS [2:33:43] . [2:33:45] BUT I DO BELIEVE THERE'S A [2:33:46] MAJOR DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT [2:33:49] RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED. [2:33:50] TODAY AND WHAT THE [2:33:54] ADMINISTRATION HAS EXPRESSED [2:33:55] TODAY. [2:33:56] RESIDENTS HAVE EXPRESSED TO [2:33:59] ME AND TO CITY [2:33:59] COUNCIL COLLEAGUES THIS IS A [2:34:01] MAJOR PUBLIC HEALTH PUBLIC [2:34:03] SAFETY QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE. [2:34:05] I KNOW THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING [2:34:06] ON THIS ISSUE FOR NINE YEARS. [2:34:09] THE ISSUE IS NOT GETTING [2:34:11] BETTER. [2:34:11] IN FACT IT'S GETTING WORSE. [2:34:14] WE CAN'T SAY THINGS ARE GETTING [2:34:15] BETTER AND TELL RESIDENTS THEY [2:34:18] ARE GETTING BETTER WHEN WHEN A [2:34:20] RAT JUMPS ON SOME BABIES, SOME [2:34:22] BABY. [2:34:22] CARRIAGE WHEN WHEN A YOUNG [2:34:25] PERSON UM IS EXPOSED TO A RAT [2:34:28] AND GETS LEPTOSPIROSIS. [2:34:33] THOSE ARE SERIOUS ISSUES. [2:34:35] THAT'S PUBLIC HEALTH. [2:34:37] THAT'S QUALITY OF LIFE. [2:34:38] THAT'S PUBLIC SAFETY SOMEWHAT [2:34:40] OF SOMEONE TALKED ABOUT THE [2:34:42] RATS EATING THROUGH THEIR [2:34:44] UNDERNEATH THEIR CAR PROBABLY [2:34:46] IMPACTING MAYBE THE STEERING, [2:34:48] MAYBE THE BRAKES. [2:34:51] UM RESIDENTS ARE USING THEIR [2:34:53] OWN MONEY TO DEAL WITH PEST [2:34:55] CONTROL HIRING A PEST CONTROL [2:34:58] SPECIALIST. [2:35:00] EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE PAYING HUGE [2:35:01] PROPERTY TAXES. [2:35:05] WHAT I ALSO UNDERSTAND AND I [2:35:09] KNEW THIS FOR YEARS IS THE [2:35:13] PEOPLE HERE ARE DOING THE BEST [2:35:14] JOB THEY CAN UNDER VERY [2:35:16] DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES. [2:35:18] IT'S NOT ENOUGH RESIDENTS [2:35:21] UNACCEPTING THAT ANY LONGER. [2:35:25] RESIDENTS WANT US TO OVERHAUL [2:35:26] THE ENTIRE OPERATION AND HAVE A [2:35:30] CITY DEPARTMENT OF RATS UH, [2:35:33] THAT CAN COORDINATE ALL ASPECTS [2:35:35] OF PEST CONTROL IN THE CITY [2:35:37] RIGHT NOW IT'S SPREAD OUT TO [2:35:40] MANY DIFFERENT CITY DEPARTMENTS [2:35:43] AND EVERYONE HAS A HAND IN IT [2:35:45] WHEN EVERYONE IS PARTICIPATING [2:35:47] AND IN MAKING DECISIONS THAT [2:35:49] MEANS THERE'S NO [2:35:50] ACCOUNTABILITY. [2:35:51] THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE [2:35:52] DESIGNATED PERSON OVERALL [2:35:55] RESPONSIBILITY FOR PEST CONTROL [2:35:57] IN THE CITY OF BOSTON THAT HAS [2:35:58] THE AUTHORITY TO CONDUCT THE [2:36:02] OPERATIONS HERE. [2:36:03] SHE SEES FIT TO IMPROVE, UH, [2:36:07] QUALITY OF LIFE CONDITIONS IN [2:36:08] THE CITY AND DEAL WITH PEST [2:36:10] CONTROL. [2:36:10] WE DON'T HAVE THAT. [2:36:11] UM, AGAIN, I'M CALLING FOR A [2:36:14] DESIGNATED RATS ARE IN THE CITY [2:36:16] OF BOSTON. [2:36:16] ELEVATE THE DEPARTMENT. [2:36:19] ELEVATE ELEVATE IT TO A CITY [2:36:21] DEPARTMENT. [2:36:21] I THINK IT'S THAT SERIOUS OF AN [2:36:23] ISSUE THAT IT NEEDS ITS OWN [2:36:25] STANDALONE CITY DEPARTMENT. [2:36:27] AND DURING THIS BUDGET PROCESS [2:36:28] I'M GOING TO FIGHT FOR THAT [2:36:30] BECAUSE RESIDENTS WANT [2:36:33] ME FIGHTING FOR THESE QUALITY [2:36:35] OF LIFE ISSUES, PUBLIC SAFETY [2:36:37] CHALLENGES. [2:36:38] THEY MIGHT NOT BE SEXY, THEY [2:36:40] MIGHT NOT BE GLAMOROUS. [2:36:41] BUT THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS PUT [2:36:43] ME IN OFFICE FOR IS TO TACKLE [2:36:46] THESE ISSUES QUALITY OF LIFE [2:36:47] ISSUES, PUBLIC SAFETY, PEST [2:36:51] CONTROL WHEN A RAT IS IN [2:36:54] SOMEONE'S HOME THAT'S A [2:36:56] SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR THAT [2:36:58] FAMILY. [2:37:00] THEY HAVE TO DECIDE IF THEY'RE [2:37:02] GOING TO STAY IN THE CITY. [2:37:04] THEY HAVE TO DECIDE. [2:37:05] IF THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEIR [2:37:06] HOUSE ON THE MARKET. [2:37:07] THAT'S HOW SERIOUS IT IS. [2:37:09] THAT'S WHAT RESIDENTS ARE [2:37:11] EXPRESSING TO ME. [2:37:13] THEY WANT US TO MOVE WITH THAT [2:37:15] SENSE OF URGENCY AS IF A RAT IS [2:37:18] IN YOUR OWN HOUSE AND WHAT ARE [2:37:20] YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? [2:37:21] YOU NEED TO PUT THAT DETERMINED [2:37:23] LEADERSHIP INTO THIS ISSUE TO [2:37:25] IMPROVE PEST CONTROL OPERATIONS [2:37:28] IN THE CITY OF BOSTON. [2:37:33] AGAIN, WE WANT TO SAY THANK YOU [2:37:36] TO THE PANEL FOR BEING HERE. [2:37:38] SAY THANK YOU TO THE PUBLIC FOR [2:37:41] TESTIFYING. [2:37:42] I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE [2:37:43] COUNCIL BRADEN'S IMPORTANT WORK [2:37:44] THAT SHE'S DONE FOR FOR A LONG [2:37:46] PERIOD OF TIME AND AS THE [2:37:48] ORIGINAL SPONSOR WITH ME, UM, I [2:37:52] WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO CITY [2:37:53] COUNCIL CENTRAL STAFF FOR [2:37:55] WORKING WITH ME ON THIS. [2:37:57] UM, I'M GOING TO KEEP THIS IN [2:38:00] COMMITTEE. [2:38:00] I MIGHT HAVE A HEARING ON THIS [2:38:02] AT SOME TIME, UM, IN THE NEAR [2:38:05] FUTURE TO GET ANOTHER UPDATE [2:38:07] BECAUSE THIS ISSUE IS NOT GOING [2:38:08] AWAY AND NEITHER ARE THE CITY [2:38:11] COUNCIL'S DOCKET 1804 ORDER. [2:38:13] FOR A HEARING. [2:38:15] TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF THE [2:38:16] BOSTON RODENT ACTION PLAN IS [2:38:20] OVER.