Ways and Means on October 6, 2026

7:57 IN THE DISTRICT SIX CITY

7:59 COUNCILOR AND THE CHAIR OF THE

8:01 BOSTON CITY COUNCIL ON WAYS AND

8:02 MEANS.

8:02 TODAY'S OCTOBER 6TH, 2026.

8:05 EXACT TIME IS 10:03 A.M..

8:08 UH IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAPTER

8:09 TWO OF THE ACTS OF 2025

8:11 MODIFYING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS

8:12 OF THE OPEN MEETING LAW AND

8:14 RELIEVING PUBLIC BODIES

8:16 OF CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS

8:17 INCLUDING THE REQUIREMENTS THAT

8:19 PUBLIC BODIES CONDUCT THEIR

8:21 MEETINGS IN A PUBLIC PLACE

8:22 THAT'S OPEN AND PHYSICALLY

8:23 ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.

8:25 THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE

8:26 CONDUCTING THIS HEARING

8:27 VIRTUALLY VIA ZOOM.

8:28 THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED.

8:30 IT'S ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED

8:32 AT BOSTON COUNCIL DASH UH

8:36 SORRY BOSTON.GOV/CITY

8:37 COUNCIL DASH TV AND BROADCAST

8:40 ON XFINITY CHANNEL E RCN

8:42 CHANNEL 82 AND FILE CHANNEL 964

8:44 .

8:45 UH WRITTEN COMMENTS MAY BE SENT

8:47 TO THE COMMITTEE EMAIL AT

8:51 SQUIRM@BOSTON.GOV.

8:51 IT WILL BE MADE A PART OF THE

8:53 RECORD AND AVAILABLE TO ALL

8:55 COUNCILORS.

8:55 PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN

8:57 AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.

8:59 INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON

9:00 THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED

9:01 UP.

9:02 THEY WILL HAVE TWO MINUTES TO

9:04 TESTIFY.

9:05 IF YOU WISH TO SIGN UP FOR

9:06 PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND HAVE NOT

9:08 DONE SO, PLEASE EMAIL OUR

9:09 CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON CHRIS

9:11 MATURE ON THAT CAR IS MARCO U H

9:19 A N@BOSTON.GOV FOR THE ZOOM

9:20 LINK AND YOUR NAME WILL BE

9:21 ADDED TO THE LIST.

9:23 UH THIS HEARING UM IS ABOUT

9:25 FUNDING THE NEW CONTRACT

9:27 INCREASES FOR SEVERAL GROUPS

9:28 OF BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL

9:29 EMPLOYEES.

9:30 THE UNIONS REPRESENT SCHOOL

9:32 POLICE OFFICERS, SUPERIOR

9:34 OFFICE AND SUPERIOR OFFICERS,

9:36 PLANNING AND ENGINEERING

9:37 PROFESSIONALS, PLAN

9:40 ADMINISTRATORS AND SCHOOL

9:41 STOREKEEPERS AND DELIVERY

9:43 WORKERS.

9:43 THE CITY'S ASKED TO MOVE UH,

9:46 APPROXIMATELY $517,000 FROM THE

9:49 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING RESERVE

9:51 SO THE DISTRICT CAN COVER THE

9:52 RAISES AND SALARY INCREASES

9:54 AGREED TO IN THE CONTRACT FOR

9:55 FISCAL YEAR 27.

9:57 THERE'S TEN DOCKETS.

9:58 I'LL NOW READ THOSE INTO THE

10:01 RECORD.

10:02 UH, JUST GIVE ME A SECOND HERE.

10:08 OKAY.

10:09 DOCKET NUMBER 1829 MESSAGE IN

10:12 ORDER TO REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR

10:14 27 APPROPRIATION FOR THE

10:15 RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE

10:17 BARGAINING BY $268,887 UH, TO

10:22 PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE BOSTON

10:24 PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE FISCAL

10:26 YEAR 27 INCREASES CONTAINED

10:28 WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

10:29 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

10:31 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

10:33 THE BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE

10:35 PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION DOCKET

10:37 NUMBER 1830 MESSAGE IN ORDER

10:40 FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL

10:41 APPROPRIATION ORDER UH FOR THE

10:44 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

10:45 DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,

10:47 IN THE AMOUNT OF $286,887 TO

10:52 COVER THE FISCAL YEAR 27 COST

10:54 ITEMS CONTAINED WITHIN THE

10:55 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

10:57 BETWEEN THE BOSTON SCHOOL

10:58 COMMITTEE AND THE BOSTON SCHOOL

11:00 POLICE PATROLMEN'S ASSOCIATION

11:02 .

11:02 THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

11:04 SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH

11:07 AUGUST 31ST, 2027.

11:08 THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

11:10 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

11:12 INCREASE OF 2% IN OCTOBER OF

11:15 24, 25 AND 26 AND A FLAT DOLLAR

11:19 AMOUNT INCREASE OF $250, $900

11:22 AND $800 TO BE ADDED TO ANNUAL

11:25 SALARIES IN JANUARY OF 2025,

11:29 2026 AND 2027 RESPECTIVELY.

11:32 DOCKET NUMBER 1831 MESSAGE IN

11:35 ORDER TO REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR

11:38 27 APPROPRIATION FOR THE

11:39 RESERVE UH FOR COLLECTIVE

11:41 BARGAINING BY $111,802 UH TO TO

11:48 PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE

11:50 BOSTON'S PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR THE

11:51 FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES

11:54 CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

11:55 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

11:56 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

11:58 THE BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE

11:59 SUPERIOR OFFICERS FEDERATION

12:02 DOCKET NUMBER 1832 MESSAGE IN

12:04 ORDER FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL

12:06 APPROPRIATION FOR THE BOSTON

12:08 PUBLIC SCHOOLS DEPARTMENT FOR

12:09 FISCAL YEAR 27, IN THE AMOUNT

12:14 OF $111,802 TO COVER THE FISCAL

12:15 YEAR 27 COST ITEMS CONTAINED

12:18 WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

12:19 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

12:20 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

12:21 THE BOSTON BOSTON SCHOOL POLICE

12:24 SUPERIOR OFFICERS FEDERATION.

12:26 THE TERMS IN THE CONTRACT ARE

12:29 JULY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH JUNE

12:33 30TH 2027.

12:33 THE MAJOR PROVISION OF THE

12:35 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

12:37 INCREASE OF 2% IN OCTOBER OF

12:40 2024, 2025 AND 2026 AND A FLAT

12:44 DOLLAR AMOUNT INCREASE OF $250

12:47 ,$900 AND $800 TO BE ADDED TO

12:49 ANNUAL SALARIES OF THE JANUARY

12:52 IN JANUARY OF 2025, 2026 AND

12:55 2027 RESPECTIVELY.

12:57 DOCKET NUMBER 1833 MESSAGE IN

13:00 ORDER TO REDUCE THE FISCAL YEAR

13:03 27 APPROPRIATION FOR THE

13:05 RESERVE FOR COLLECTIVE

13:06 BARGAINING BY 800 UH SORRY BY

13:12 $85,879 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR

13:14 THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR

13:15 THE FISCAL YEAR 27 INCREASES

13:17 CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

13:19 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

13:20 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

13:23 SEIU LOCAL 888 PROFESSIONAL

13:25 EMPLOYEES CHAPTER, DEPARTMENT

13:27 OF PLANNING AND ENGINEERING

13:29 DOCKET NUMBER 1834 UH MESSAGE

13:32 IN ORDER FOR THE SUPPLEMENTAL

13:34 APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE

13:36 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

13:36 DEPARTMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 27,

13:38 IN THE AMOUNT OF $85,879 TO

13:43 COVER THE FY 27 COST ITEMS

13:46 CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

13:47 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

13:48 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

13:50 SEIU LOCAL 88 PROFESSIONAL

13:52 EMPLOYEES CHAPTER TWO

13:54 DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND

13:55 ENGINEERING.

13:55 THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

13:58 SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH

14:02 OCTOBER 31ST 2027.

14:03 THE MAJOR PROVISION FOR THAT

14:04 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

14:06 INCREASE OF 2% IN SEPTEMBER

14:08 OF 26 AND A FLAT DOLLAR AMOUNT

14:11 OF $800 ADDED TO ANNUAL

14:13 SALARIES IN JANUARY OF 20 2027

14:16 DOCKET NUMBER 1835 MESSAGE IN

14:19 ORDER TO REDUCE THE FY 27

14:21 APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE

14:22 FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY

14:27 $40,365 TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR

14:28 THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS FOR

14:30 THE FY 27 INCREASES CONTAINED

14:33 WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

14:34 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

14:35 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

14:37 BOSTON SCHOOL DEPARTMENT PLANT

14:39 ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION DUG

14:41 A NUMBER 1836 MESSAGE IN ORDER

14:44 FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL

14:45 APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE

14:47 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

14:48 DEPARTMENT FOR FY 27, IN THE

14:50 AMOUNT OF $40,365 TO COVER THE

14:54 FY 27 COST ITEMS CONTAINED

14:57 WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

14:58 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

14:59 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

15:00 THE BOSTON SCHOOL DEPARTMENT

15:02 PLANT ADMINISTRATORS

15:04 ASSOCIATION.

15:04 THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

15:06 SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH

15:09 OCTOBER 31ST, 2027.

15:11 THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

15:13 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

15:14 INCREASE OF 2% IN SEPTEMBER

15:17 OF 20 2026 AND A FLAT DOLLAR

15:19 AMOUNT OF $800 TO BE ADDED TO

15:21 ANNUAL SALARIES IN JANUARY

15:24 OF 2027.

15:25 DOCKET NUMBER 18 UH 37 MESSAGE

15:29 IN ORDER TO REDUCE THE FY 27

15:32 APPROPRIATION FOR THE RESERVE

15:33 FOR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING BY

15:37 $10,320 UH, TO PROVIDE FUNDING

15:39 FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

15:40 FOR THE FY 27 INCREASES

15:43 CONTAINED WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

15:44 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

15:46 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

15:48 AFL COUNCIL 39 LOCAL 281 FOR

15:53 STOREKEEPERS AND STORES

15:54 DELIVERY MEN UNION AND FINALLY

15:57 UH DOCKET NUMBER 1838 MESSAGE

16:00 IN ORDER FOR A SUPPLEMENTAL

16:01 APPROPRIATION ORDER FOR THE

16:03 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

16:04 DEPARTMENT FOR FY 27, IN THE

16:06 AMOUNT OF $10,320 TO COVER THE

16:10 FY 27 COST ITEMS CONTAINED

16:12 WITHIN THE COLLECTIVE

16:13 BARGAINING AGREEMENT BETWEEN

16:15 THE BOSTON SCHOOL COMMITTEE AND

16:18 AFL-CIO COUNCIL 93 LOCAL 2814

16:23 STOREKEEPERS AND STORES

16:24 DELIVERY MEN'S UNION.

16:25 THE TERMS OF THE CONTRACT ARE

16:27 SEPTEMBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH

16:31 AUGUST 31ST 2027.

16:32 THE MAJOR PROVISIONS OF THE

16:34 CONTRACT INCLUDE A BASE WAGE

16:35 INCREASE OF 2% IN SEPTEMBER

16:38 OF 2026 AND A FLAT DOLLAR

16:39 AMOUNT OF $800 TO BE ADDED TO

16:42 ANNUAL SALARIES IN JANUARY

16:45 2027.

16:45 THESE MATTERS WERE WE'RE

16:47 SPONSORED BY THE MAYOR MICHELLE

16:49 WU AND REFERRED TO THE

16:50 COMMITTEE ON SEPTEMBER 30TH

16:53 2026 WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE

16:55 CONTRACTS RELATED TO PLANT

16:57 ADMINISTRATORS, ASSOCIATION

16:58 PLANNING AND ENGINEERING AND

17:00 STOREKEEPERS UH FIRST AND ALSO

17:02 THE SCRIPT SAYS UH UH UH TODAY

17:05 I'M JOINED BY MY UH COLLEAGUES

17:07 IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL

17:09 COUNCILOR MURPHY,

17:09 COUNCILOR FLYNN,

17:11 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE AND THEN

17:13 COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

17:14 UM, WE'RE JOINED BY A PANEL UH

17:17 ,WITH UH WE'VE GOT UH, BUDGET

17:20 DIRECTOR JIM WILLIAMSON, UH,

17:22 DIRECTOR FOR THE OFFICE

17:23 OF LABOR RELATIONS FOR BOSTON

17:25 PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

17:25 UH, JEREMIAH JEREMIAH HAS SOME

17:28 UH WE'VE GOT UH, CHIEF

17:30 EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE

17:32 OFFICE OF SAFETY SERVICES FROM

17:33 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

17:35 UH, ISRAEL IS RAUL RAUL.

17:38 SORRY, IZZY UH MARRERO.

17:40 UM, AND CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER

17:42 FOR THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

17:43 BRIAN FORD.

17:44 UH, UH, BRIAN HAS A HARD STOP

17:48 AT 1130.

17:48 SO IF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR

17:51 BRIAN, UH, WHAT?

17:52 YOU KNOW, PLEASE, UH, UP FRONT

17:55 AND IF YOU HAVE A CALLED ON YOU

17:58 AND DO SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS

17:59 FOR BRIAN BEFORE HE LEAVES, LET

18:00 ME KNOW AND I CAN CALL MY

18:02 COLLEAGUES OUT OF ORDER.

18:03 UM, LET'S SEE HERE.

18:05 UH, SO, UM, I KIND OF PASS THIS

18:11 OFF TO OUR PANELISTS.

18:13 UM, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR I DON'T

18:16 KNOW, UH UH, DIRECTOR WILLIAMS

18:19 AND I'LL I'LL START WITH YOU

18:21 AND YOU CAN PASSWORD FOR YOU ON

18:23 IT.

18:23 WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

18:25 UH, CHAIR WEBER AND OTHER

18:26 MEMBERS OF THE BOSTON CITY

18:27 COUNCIL.

18:28 UH, AS YOU SAID, MY NAME IS

18:29 JOHN WILLIAMSON.

18:30 I'M THE BUDGET DIRECTOR HERE

18:31 FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON.

18:33 UM, MYSELF AND MY COLLEAGUES

18:34 FROM THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS

18:37 APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO

18:38 PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT THESE

18:39 NEW CONTRACTS, UM, IN THEIR

18:42 APPLICATIONS FOR THE CITY'S

18:43 BUDGET.

18:43 UH, I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE TEN

18:46 APPROPRIATION ORDERS BEFORE YOU

18:48 AND THE IMPACT TO THE BUDGET

18:50 AND TO MAKE A FORMAL REQUEST

18:52 OF THE COMMITTEE, UH, TO, UH,

18:54 REPORT IT OUT AND HAVE APPROVED

18:56 AT THE NEXT UH, CITY

18:57 COUNCIL MEETING.

18:58 UH, I'M ALSO YOU KNOW, I'M

19:00 JOINED BY JEREMIAH HANSON FROM

19:02 UH, HIS OFFICE OF LABOR TO UM,

19:05 ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

19:08 CONTRACT AND OTHER OPERATIONAL

19:09 STAFF.

19:10 UH, UM IS HE HERE?

19:12 UM AND, UM, BRIAN FORWARD TO

19:14 ASK ABOUT OPERATIONAL UM, UH,

19:16 ACTIVITIES FOR THOSE STAFF

19:19 COVER BUTTONS UNIONS UM, YOU

19:21 KNOW AND AS YOU REMEMBER, THE

19:22 UH, 427 BUDGET FINALIZED IN

19:24 JUNE INCLUDED THE 2020 $22

19:27 MILLION UM UH COLLECTIVE

19:29 PARKING RESERVE AN AGGREGATE UH

19:31 USE UH THE CITY COUNCIL HAS

19:32 APPROVED UH TWO PREVIOUS CBAS

19:35 UH IN THIS FISCAL YEAR UM FOR

19:39 $3.3 MILLION AND THE TOTAL FOR

19:41 THESE TEN UH FOR THESE FIVE UM

19:43 UNITS, UM, UM, ACROSS UM IN THE

19:48 TEN APPROPRIATION ORDERS IS UH

19:51 $517,000.

19:51 UM, SO WITH THAT, UH, I WILL I

19:54 DON'T KNOW IF UH, JEREMIAH OR

19:55 OTHERS WANT TO SAY ANYTHING

19:58 BEFORE WE START THE HEARING.

20:00 JUST TO THANKS JIM AND CHAIR

20:02 WEBER AND COUNCILORS, THANK YOU

20:04 FOR HAVING US TODAY.

20:05 UH, JUST TO PROVIDE A LITTLE

20:06 BIT OF CONTEXT FOR THESE FIRST

20:08 THREE CONTRACTS WE'RE FOCUSING

20:10 ON.

20:11 UH, THEY ARE VERY

20:13 STRAIGHTFORWARD ONE YEAR

20:14 AGREEMENT, UH, FOLLOWING WHAT

20:16 WE'VE SEEN OF THE 15 UH, WAGE

20:18 PATTERN FOR COLLECTIVE

20:20 BARGAINING AGREEMENTS AND FOR

20:21 THE OFTEN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING

20:22 AGREEMENTS TO MAKE UH, TO MY

20:24 KNOWLEDGE CITY SIDE.

20:25 UM, SO 2% INCREASE, UH, GENERAL

20:29 WAGE INCREASES PLUS THE $800 IN

20:33 THAT IS SPREAD EVENLY ACROSS

20:34 THE EMPLOYEES PAYCHECKS, UH,

20:36 AND WILL BE ADDED TO THAT BASE

20:38 WAGES MOVING FORWARD.

20:39 UM, SO AGAIN, REALLY

20:41 STRAIGHTFORWARD UH, IF I WANT

20:43 TO TAKE MY TIME TO UH, THANK

20:45 THE BARGAINING TEAM FOR THESE

20:47 UNIONS, UH, THAT WERE ABLE TO

20:49 WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH US TO

20:50 GET UH, AGREEMENTS DONE IN A

20:53 FAIRLY QUICK AND EFFICIENT

20:54 MANNER.

20:55 SO, UH, WITH THAT AND JUST SO

21:00 WE'RE ALL CLEAR THE, UH, THAT

21:02 THEY WERE AGREED TO BY THE

21:03 UNIONS, UH, RATIFIED BY THE

21:05 MEMBERSHIP AND THEY HAVE UH ALL

21:08 OF THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE BEEN

21:09 RATIFIED BY THE SCHOOL

21:10 COMMITTEE AS WELL.

21:12 SO WITH THAT, IF YOU HAVE ANY

21:14 QUESTIONS FOR US, HAPPY TO

21:15 ANSWER.

21:18 OKAY.

21:19 UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

21:22 UM, SORRY.

21:24 UH LET'S SEE UH, WE'VE BEEN

21:25 JOINED ALSO BY

21:27 COUNCILOR CULPEPER.

21:30 UM UH, SO I I'D LIKE TO HAND IT

21:32 OFF TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR

21:34 QUESTIONS.

21:35 UH, I'M JUST UM.

21:39 OKAY.

21:40 AND WE'RE JOINED BY

21:41 COUNCILOR EARL.

21:42 UM, YEAH, I GUESS IT'S OKAY.

21:46 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

21:47 UH, LET'S.

21:49 LET'S DO, UH, FIVE MINUTES AND

21:52 THEN, UH, IF YOU HAVE A SECOND

21:54 ROUND OF QUESTIONS, WE'LL COME

21:55 BACK.

22:05 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

22:15 OKAY.

22:16 UH.

22:21 COUNCILOR.

22:21 UH, FLYNN.

22:23 THANK YOU, MR CHAIRMAN.

22:24 MR CHAIR, BEFORE I BEGIN, UM,

22:28 DID WE INVITE ANY.

22:30 OF THE UNION LEADERSHIP.

22:32 TO ATTEND AND MAYBE GIVE THEIR

22:36 THEIR OPINION, THEIR SIDE

22:37 OF THE NEGOTIATION?

22:39 THESE ARE COLLECTIVE

22:40 BARGAINING.

22:40 DID WE GIVE THEM THE

22:42 OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE?

22:44 UH, I MEAN, I THINK THE USUAL

22:46 PROCEDURE IS WE DON'T INVITE

22:48 THE, YOU KNOW, UNIONS ON

22:50 INCREASES IN CBAS WHERE THEY'VE

22:52 BEEN NEGOTIATED.

22:53 I UNDERSTAND WE'VE HAD THIS

22:54 DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DETECTIVES

22:57 UNION.

22:57 UH.

22:58 I'M ASKING ABOUT TODAY,

23:00 MR CHAIR.

23:00 TODAY TODAY JUST.

23:01 A SIMPLE QUESTION, MR CHAIR.

23:03 WELL, OKAY.

23:04 THE SIMPLE CORRECT ANSWER IS NO

23:06 ,NOT INVITED.

23:07 OKAY.

23:08 UM MY RECOMMENDATION I DO

23:10 LIKE TO HEAR FROM BOTH SIDES.

23:12 UM, ESPECIALLY ON A UNION

23:14 CONTRACT.

23:14 I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO

23:15 HEAR FROM, UH, PEOPLE ON THE

23:18 OTHER SIDE OF THE CONTRACT THAT

23:19 ARE NEGOTIATING IN GOOD FAITH

23:22 BECAUSE IT'S NEGOTIATED IN GOOD

23:24 FAITH BETWEEN THE UNION AND

23:26 THAT'S THAT'S THE ONLY REASON

23:28 I'M, UM, RESPECTFULLY ASKING

23:30 THAT QUESTION, MR CHAIR.

23:31 IT'S A RESPECTFUL QUESTION AND

23:33 ,UH, SO NOT INVITED.

23:35 WHY DON'T YOU GO FORWARD WITH

23:37 YOUR FIVE MINUTES?

23:38 LET ME TALK TO CHARISMA KIND

23:39 OF OFFLINE AND, UH, SEE IF WE

23:41 CAN BRING ANYONE IN.

23:43 I MEAN, I YOU KNOW, THEY DID

23:44 WANT US TO VOTE ON THIS LAST

23:46 WEEK I I SAID NO, WE SHOULD

23:48 HAVE A HEARING ON THIS, UH, TO

23:51 ALLOW MY COLLEAGUES TO ANSWER

23:52 THESE QUESTIONS.

23:52 I STARTED YOUR TIME,

23:54 COUNCILOR FRIENDS, BUT.

23:55 BUT THAT'S OKAY.

23:55 THAT'S UH.

23:56 SO LET LET LET ME JUST LET

23:58 ME STRATEGIZE WITH CENTRAL

24:00 STAFF HERE AND THEN, UH, YOU

24:02 KNOW, COME BACK.

24:03 WHY DON'T YOU START YOUR FIVE

24:05 MINUTES?

24:05 WE'VE GOT A.

24:06 A CAPABLE PANEL HERE AND, UH,

24:08 OKAY, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS.

24:10 WELL, LET ME GO LET ME GO

24:12 DIRECTLY TO ANYONE FROM THE

24:14 TEAM WE WE'VE RECENTLY READ UM,

24:18 THE DEVASTATING REPORT OF THE

24:20 STATE COME OUT STATE CAME OUT.

24:22 I GUESS IT WAS AN INSPECTOR

24:23 GENERAL REPORT, UM,

24:25 HIGHLIGHTING.

24:28 MISMANAGEMENT AT CERTAIN

24:30 CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS.

24:31 MAYBE IT WAS PUBLIC FACILITIES

24:32 .

24:33 UM, DOES THIS CONTRACT HAVE ANY

24:37 IMPACT AT ALL ON THE INSPECTOR

24:41 GENERAL REPORT?

24:42 YEAH I SAID RELATES TO ARE WE

24:45 DOING ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY NOW

24:47 THAN WE WERE IN THE PAST BASED

24:51 ON RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE OIG

24:53 REPORT AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD?

24:59 SO WHEN YOU SAY THIS CONTRACT,

25:00 CAN YOU SPECIFY WHICH CONTRACT

25:02 YOU'RE REFERRING TO ANYONE?

25:05 UM, IN ANY CONTRACT EMAILS WITH

25:07 THE OH THE OFFICER INSPECTOR

25:09 GENERAL HAD A REPORT

25:10 HIGHLIGHTING UM UM

25:13 MISMANAGEMENT.

25:14 YEAH.

25:14 UM THROUGHOUT I WAS WONDERING

25:17 IF IN ANY OF THESE CONTRACTS

25:19 THAT WE'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON HAS

25:23 ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON THE OIG

25:26 REPORT AND HOW WE MOVE FORWARD

25:28 OPERATION WISE?

25:30 UM, AND WHAT IMPACT THE OIG

25:33 REPORT HAD ON.

25:36 ON THE ON ON MANAGEMENT, ON

25:39 OPERATIONS ON FUNCTIONS OF BPA

25:41 CENTER DID IT HAVE ANY IMPACT

25:43 ON THIS CONTRACT ON ANY

25:44 OF THESE CONTRACTS AS WELL?

25:47 BRIAN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU.

25:49 SOME OF.

25:50 THOSE SOME.

25:51 OF THOSE.

25:51 ISSUES HAPPENED IN AND AROUND

25:54 THE OFFICE.

25:55 DO YOU WORK ON BRIAN ANY ANY

25:57 ANY FEEDBACK YOU MIGHT HAVE?

26:02 UM GOOD MORNING COUNSELOR.

26:05 UM.

26:06 I WOULD SAY AS IT RELATES TO

26:09 THE UH, NEW COLLECTIVE

26:11 BARGAINING COLLECTIVE

26:12 BARGAINING AGREEMENTS THAT THIS

26:14 WILL HAVE LITTLE TO NO IMPACT

26:17 ON ACTIONS TAKEN AS A RESULT

26:19 OF THE IG'S REPORT.

26:22 HOWEVER, MOST OF OUR ACTIONS IN

26:25 RESPONSE TO THE IG'S REPORT ARE

26:26 TIED IN TIGHTENING UP FINANCIAL

26:29 PROTOCOLS AT WHICH TIME WE ARE

26:31 STILL FORMULATING OUR OFFICIAL

26:35 REVIEW AND RESPONSE.

26:41 IN CALIFORNIA AS HAVING WORK

26:44 THIS OUT WITH OUR UNION FOR THE

26:46 LARGE EGO REPORT DIDN'T HAVE

26:48 ANY IMPACT ON THE NEGOTIATION

26:50 FOR PARTIES.

26:51 UM THEN.

26:52 DOES THIS HAVE ANY IMPACT?

26:54 DOES IT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON HOW

26:56 WE MOVE FORWARD AS A AS A

26:58 SCHOOL DEPARTMENT IN MAKING ANY

27:01 CHANGES TO IMPROVE UM OPERATION

27:04 MANAGEMENT?

27:09 IN TERMS OF THE COLLECTIVE

27:11 BARGAINING?

27:11 I GUESS UH, I GUESS THAT THE

27:13 TEAM TO BE DETERMINED MAYBE BUT

27:16 UM BRIAN IF YOU IF YOU HAVE

27:18 MORE ON THAT.

27:20 I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER IS

27:21 YES.

27:22 WHILE WE CANNOT POINT A FULL

27:23 PICTURE OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE

27:24 YET AS WE CONTINUE TO DO OUR

27:26 REVIEW ASSESSMENT AND RESPOND

27:30 TO THE FINDINGS OF THE IG

27:31 REPORT.

27:35 BRIAN, IN A NUTSHELL WHAT

27:36 HAPPENED IN THE OIG REPORT?

27:45 I I DON'T THINK I'M FULLY

27:47 EQUIPPED TO ANSWER THAT

27:49 QUESTION AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME

27:51 BECAUSE OF THE UH, MANY MOVING

27:53 PIECES AS WE WORK TO FULLY

27:56 UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THAT

28:00 REPORT AND WHAT DIDN'T DID NOT

28:02 HAPPEN WHILE WE CONTINUE TO DO

28:04 INVESTIGATIVE MEASURES ON OUR

28:05 END TO GET DOWN TO BRASS TACKS.

28:10 AND I COULD I MAKE A.

28:12 CONSTRUCTIVE RECOMMENDATION TO

28:14 BP IF THERE IS A CONTRACT THAT

28:17 ENTERS INTO WHAT THEY VENDOR

28:21 UM, BP HAS TO PAY THAT VENDOR

28:23 DIRECTLY.

28:24 THEY CAN'T USE ANOTHER VENDOR.

28:27 TO PAY THAT OTHER VENDOR OTHER

28:30 VENDOR AND THEN THAT OTHER

28:31 VENDOR WILL PAY THE PERSON THAT

28:33 SHOULD BE GETTING THE MONEY.

28:35 UM I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THAT.

28:37 I HIGHLIGHTED THAT I DO THAT I

28:41 DO THINK IT'S A PROBLEM AND I

28:44 DO I DO WANT TO GET ANSWERS TO

28:46 THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE I VOTE

28:48 ON THESE CONTRACTS.

28:50 I I'M GOING TO VOTE ON THEM BUT

28:52 I STILL NEED TO DO MY DUE

28:53 DILIGENCE AS A CITY

28:55 COUNCILOR TO ENSURE EVERY

28:57 NICKEL OF TAXPAYER MONEY IS

28:59 ACCOUNTED FOR.

29:00 I KNOW I'M A STICKLER AND I

29:02 KNOW THAT MIGHT NOT GO OVER

29:04 WELL, BUT RESIDENTS EXPECT

29:07 ME TO ASK DIFFICULT QUESTIONS

29:08 THAT OTHERS MIGHT NOT ASK.

29:12 UM THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

29:16 OKAY.

29:17 THANK THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

29:19 UH.

29:20 I KNOW COUNCILOR MURPHY.

29:22 YOU'RE UP NEXT.

29:24 A COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE HAD A HAD

29:26 TO I WAS GOING TO CALL ON HER

29:27 OUT OF ORDER.

29:29 UH, JUST SHE HAD HAD TO LEAVE.

29:31 I DON'T KNOW,

29:33 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

29:34 I'M HERE, COUNCILMEMBER, BUT

29:35 FEEL FOR YOU COUNCILMEMBER

29:36 COUNCIL.

29:37 WE CAN SPEAK.

29:37 OKAY, I CAN WAIT.

29:38 TOTALLY.

29:38 OKAY.

29:39 THANK YOU.

29:40 OKAY.

29:40 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

29:41 THANK YOU.

29:42 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

29:42 YOUR FIVE MINUTES.

29:44 THANK YOU.

29:45 UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING

29:47 HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO

29:51 VOTING IN SUPPORT AND

29:53 ADVOCATING OUR EMPLOYEES.

29:56 UM UH.

29:57 THERE ARE MANY THAT AREN'T OUR

29:59 TEACHERS THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED

30:00 HERE.

30:01 THANK YOU IZZY AND ALL OF THE

30:02 OTHER REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE

30:04 WORK YOU DO IN OUR SCHOOLS.

30:06 IT'S HARD WORK.

30:07 UM, COUNCILOR FLYNN DID BRING

30:09 UP SOME HARD QUESTIONS.

30:11 I KNOW THAT I'LL BE ASKING

30:13 THOSE.

30:13 I DON'T KNOW IF THIS MEETING I

30:16 IS THE PLACE FOR IT, BUT I AM

30:18 HAPPY THAT THAT WAS AT LEAST

30:20 BROUGHT OUT BECAUSE ANY DOLLAR

30:22 WE CAN SAVE IF WE'RE WASTING

30:23 ANY MONEY ESPECIALLY AFTER

30:26 SEEING HUNDREDS OF POSITIONS

30:28 CUT KNOWING WHAT THAT IMPACT

30:31 MAKES ON THE EXPERIENCE AND

30:35 EDUCATION FOR OUR STUDENTS.

30:37 SO NEEDING TO MAKE SURE THAT

30:39 WHO HAS THE BIGGEST BUDGET IN

30:41 THE CITY THAT WE'RE SPENDING

30:44 THE MONEY PROPERLY AND NOT

30:47 WASTING ANY MONEY AT ALL.

30:50 SO LOOKING FORWARD TO

30:52 SUPPORTING AND VOTING IN FAVOR

30:53 OF THESE CONTRACTS BUT

30:55 CONTINUING THAT CONVERSATION IS

30:57 IMPORTANT ALSO.

30:58 SO THANK YOU.

30:59 NO DIRECT QUESTIONS.

31:02 THANK YOU COUNCIL.

31:03 OKAY THANK YOU,

31:05 COUNCILOR MURPHY UH

31:07 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

31:07 THANK YOU MR CHAIR.

31:09 I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE FOR

31:10 BEING HERE.

31:12 UM I WANT TO THANK THE UNIONS

31:14 AND, UH, THE ADMINISTRATION FOR

31:16 COMING TO THIS AGREEMENT WHICH

31:18 IS BEFORE US, UM, AND LOOKING

31:20 FORWARD TO VOTING ON IT.

31:21 JUST HAVE A QUESTION.

31:22 FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS THERE ARE

31:23 INCREASES IN OTHER PLACES THERE

31:24 ARE DECREASES IN THE AMOUNT.

31:26 CAN ANYONE EXPLAIN WHY THERE

31:27 ARE INCREASES AND DECREASES?

31:29 YES COUNCIL I BELIEVE I CAN DO

31:31 THAT.

31:32 SO THE DECREASES ARE UM UM

31:35 REMOVING THE MONEY FROM THE

31:36 RESERVE IN THE POSITIVE NUMBERS

31:38 ARE ADDING IT TO THE BOSTON

31:39 PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUDGET.

31:41 OKAY.

31:42 UH AND WHAT DO WE EXPECT TO

31:43 SEE NEXT YEAR OR HOW LONG WILL

31:46 THIS COVER?

31:48 WELL YEAH THEY HAVE, UH,

31:49 DIFFERENT TERMS BUT THIS THIS,

31:51 UM, FUNDING ARRANGEMENT IS TO

31:53 COVER FISCAL YEAR UH, FOR 27 IN

31:55 GERMANY THAT WE HAVE OUR VIEW

31:57 ON THAT TOO AND CONTRACTORS I

31:58 THINK THAT THERE HAVE 127 AS

32:01 WELL.

32:02 YEAH BUT SOME OF THEM HAVE UH

32:03 SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT DATES AND

32:04 THEY END EITHER JUNE 30TH OR UH

32:08 AUGUST 31ST.

32:08 MOST OF THEM ARE AUGUST 31ST

32:10 OF THE UPCOMING YEAR.

32:10 UH, AND WE WILL UM, START THE

32:13 PROCESS OF UM, UH, NEGOTIATING

32:15 OUR NEXT ROUND OF COLLECTIVE

32:17 BARGAINING AGREEMENTS WITH

32:18 THIS, UH, THESE GROUPS AND OUR

32:21 OTHER UNIONS.

32:23 UM, AT SOME POINT THIS YEAR.

32:25 OKAY.

32:26 WONDERFUL.

32:26 THANK YOU.

32:27 I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT THE

32:28 PARTIES CAME TO THE TABLE AND

32:29 MADE AN AGREEMENT AND, UH, AS

32:31 USUAL, GRATEFUL TO HAVE YOU ALL

32:33 HERE GIVING US A SUMMARY

32:34 OF WHAT THAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE

32:35 .

32:35 THANK YOU.

32:35 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

32:38 OKAY.

32:39 THANK YOU,

32:40 COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.

32:40 UH, COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.

32:47 THANK YOU CHAIR.

32:48 UH MUCH APPRECIATED.

32:50 UH, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE

32:52 REALLY IS HOW MANY HOW MANY

32:54 MEMBERS ARE IN, UH, REPRESENTED

32:55 IN THIS INCREASE?

32:57 UH, I DID SOME HOMEWORK AND IT

32:59 LOOKED TO BE ABOUT LIKE 73

33:00 PEOPLE.

33:01 I THINK THERE'S LIKE 55 SAFETY

33:02 OFFICERS AND THEN A COUPLE OF,

33:04 UH, SUPERIORS UM, UH, A COUPLE

33:08 OF ADMIN AND IT LOOKS LIKE I

33:09 MEAN THIS IS AT ABOUT RIGHT 73

33:11 FOLKS.

33:13 .

33:13 SO COUNCIL I HAVE AN OUT

33:15 OF THE MOP.

33:16 UH, TO BE HONEST.

33:18 IT'S I THINK.

33:19 PLANNING ENGINEERING RIGHT NOW

33:20 I WORRIED ABOUT 37.

33:21 MEMBERS, UH, PLAN

33:23 ADMINISTRATORS.

33:23 I THINK WE'RE AT 16, UH,

33:26 STOREKEEPERS WE'RE AT.

33:27 SIX MEMBERS CURRENTLY.

33:29 UM, SO THOSE ARE THE

33:30 FACILITIES.

33:30 GROUPS THEN I THINK WITH OUR.

33:33 PATROL.

33:33 UH, 57 OFFICERS.

33:36 WE'RE AT UH.

33:37 ROUGHLY 50.

33:38 AND ROUGHLY 19 SUPERIOR.

33:41 OFFICERS I BELIEVE.

33:42 OKAY.

33:43 ALL RIGHT.

33:44 SO I WOULD JUST TRY TO DO

33:45 THE MATH IN MY HEAD BECAUSE THE

33:46 THE THE DOLLAR INCREASES OF TWO

33:49 5908 HUNDRED SLIGHTLY BELOW

33:51 2000 GOING BACK OVER THE PAST

33:53 TWO YEARS IN THE UPCOMING YEAR

33:55 IT'S ROUGHLY A $2,000 RAISE

33:56 OVER THREE YEARS GIVEN ONE MORE

33:58 YEAR TO GO HERE UM AND WITH THE

34:01 NUMBER OF.

34:01 FOLKS THAT WE'RE TALKING.

34:02 ABOUT IT SEEMS TO BE UH A

34:03 NOMINAL FEE OVERALL.

34:04 SO I'M GLAD FOLKS WERE ABLE TO

34:06 UM, GET THIS CONTRACT HAMMERED

34:08 OUT AND UH, IT LOOKS LIKE UM

34:12 YEAH.

34:13 WE'RE GOOD I DON'T REALLY I

34:14 JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT

34:16 THAT MATH WAS CORRECT IN MY

34:17 HEAD OF OF ROUGHLY, YOU KNOW,

34:19 $200,000 OVER THREE YEARS,

34:21 WHICH I THINK IS IS UH, A MINOR

34:23 VERY MODEST INCREASE AND

34:24 ALLOWED.

34:24 SO.

34:25 UM.

34:26 I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY

34:27 FURTHER QUESTIONS.

34:28 CHAIR.

34:28 UH, I APPRECIATE IT AND LOOK

34:29 FORWARD TO, UH, WEDNESDAY.

34:31 THANK YOU.

34:31 OKAY.

34:32 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

34:33 UM, OKAY.

34:35 I THINK COUNCILOR CULPEPPER,

34:37 YOU'RE UP NEXT.

34:38 GOOD MORNING, MR CHAIR.

34:40 YEAH.

34:40 HI.

34:41 SO WE'RE DOING FIVE MINUTES.

34:42 UH.

34:43 I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE FIVE

34:45 MINUTES.

34:45 I KNOW TO YOUR SURPRISE AND

34:47 EVERYONE ELSE'S SURPRISE SHOCK.

34:49 I DON'T NEED FIVE MINUTES FOR

34:50 THIS.

34:51 UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK BUT, UH,

34:55 COUNCIL MURPHY, WE WILL TALK

34:58 ABOUT OUR OR REPORT AT A LATER

35:02 TIME.

35:02 JUST GLAD TO SEE THAT THEY

35:04 COULD COME TO AN AGREEMENT.

35:06 UM, WHETHER YOU COULD BRING IT

35:08 BEFORE SO SOON AS POSSIBLE SO

35:11 THAT WE CAN GET IT APPROVED.

35:13 I WANT TO GO BACK TO, UH,

35:14 MISSING SOME REAL QUICK, UM,

35:19 AND, UH, I SEE YOU CAME TO THIS

35:24 MEETING, UH, WITH YOUR SUNDAY

35:27 BEST AND, UH.

35:33 MR CHAIR, CAN WE CAN WE JUST

35:34 PUT, UH.

35:35 YEAH.

35:36 MR MASON ON JEREMIAH.

35:39 YEAH, I'VE GONE FOR.

35:41 OH MY GOODNESS, I LOVE THAT

35:43 SUIT.

35:44 I'VE GOT ONE JUST LIKE I SAY.

35:46 YOU WORE YOUR SUNDAYS BEST THIS

35:48 MORNING.

35:49 UH, TO BRING YOUR BEST TO THE

35:52 COUNCIL.

35:52 I WANT TO APPROVE THIS AND

35:54 HOPEFULLY WE CAN APPROVE IT

35:55 WEDNESDAY.

35:56 I THINK IT'S BEEN SITTING AND

35:59 TALKED AND DISCUSSED AND

36:00 NEGOTIATED AND SO LET'S GET IT

36:03 APPROVED.

36:03 I'M WITH YOU 100%.

36:05 I WANT TO GET IT DONE AND UH,

36:08 YOU'RE COMING TO US IN GRAND

36:10 STYLE AND UH, LOOK, HOPEFULLY

36:13 WEDNESDAY WE CAN GET IT DONE.

36:15 THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.

36:17 I RESERVE MY FOUR MINUTES AND

36:20 30S TO SAY NEXT TIME I NEED

36:24 TIME.

36:25 I'M SORRY YOU CUT OUT THERE AT

36:27 THE END, BUT, UH.

36:28 YEAH.

36:28 SO GREAT TO SEE.

36:29 YOU AT.

36:30 THE CULPEPER.

36:31 UH, OKAY.

36:32 THANK YOU.

36:33 AND I APPRECIATE THE COMPLIMENT

36:36 .

36:36 YOU'RE WELCOME.

36:39 OKAY.

36:39 UH, OKAY.

36:41 COUNCILOR WORRELL.

36:42 UH.

36:43 THANK YOU, CHAIR, AND THANK.

36:44 YOU TO THE PANEL FOR BEING

36:45 HERE.

36:46 UM, LOOKING FORWARD TO

36:47 SUPPORTING THIS CONTRACT.

36:49 UH.

36:50 NO NO QUESTIONS.

36:51 AND IT IS A NICE, NICE SUIT.

36:56 THANK YOU.

36:56 COUNCILOR.

36:57 UH UH, OKAY.

37:00 I ASSUME ANY ANYONE WHO

37:01 HASN'T SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THE

37:02 SUIT DOESN'T LIKE IT.

37:03 UH, SO, UH, BUT, UM UH IT'S

37:07 GOOD.

37:07 UH, OKAY.

37:08 UH, I GUESS JUST JUST ONE

37:11 QUESTION.

37:11 YOU KNOW, WE WE WE HAVE.

37:12 THAT HAVE UH.

37:14 OKAY.

37:15 WELL, THERE YOU GO.

37:16 UH, I'M SURE I THINK.

37:17 EVERYONE LIKES TO SEE, UM, BUT

37:20 UH UH, I JUST I HAD A QUESTION

37:23 ABOUT STAFFING.

37:24 UM, I I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY

37:26 OTHER COUNCILORS AND WE CAN GO

37:27 .

37:27 YOU KNOW.

37:28 COUNCILOR FLYNN HAD, UH, A

37:29 FOLLOW UP OR SOMETHING, BUT, UM

37:32 ,UH, IN TERMS OF STAFFING FOR

37:34 THE FOR THE POLICE OFFICERS THE

37:37 SORT OF UH, SECURITY LIKE ARE

37:41 WE WHAT'S ARE WE, UM, FILLING

37:44 ALL THE POSITIONS?

37:46 UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA

37:48 BECAUSE YEAH, I KNOW JUST THE,

37:50 UH, BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT WE

37:52 WE HAVE LIKE SORT OF A, UH, NOW

37:55 PERPETUAL UNDERSTAFFING.

37:57 UM.

38:01 I DON'T HAVE.

38:02 ANY YOU'RE UH MUTED.

38:04 IF.

38:04 YOU'RE SPEAKING.

38:06 JIM IS MUTED CAN YOU HEAR

38:09 ME NO.

38:11 UM OH EXCUSE ME COUNCILOR UH I

38:13 DIDN'T THINK THAT QUESTION WAS

38:14 POSED TO ME IN TERMS OF UH THE

38:16 STAFFING LEVELS AND THE UM DPS

38:18 PUBLIC SAFETY OFFICER I WOULD

38:20 DEFER TO TO IZZY ON THAT.

38:22 I'M NOT UM, ACQUAINTED WITH

38:24 WHERE THEY ARE OTHER THAN WHAT

38:26 WHAT THE STAFFING LEVEL IS UM,

38:28 AT THE TIME OF THIS UH UM SO

38:32 YOU KNOW, WITH THAT UH, TERM I

38:33 SPOKE TO WHICH IS 50 POLICE

38:35 OFFICERS AND UH, 19 SUPERIOR

38:38 OFFICERS BUT I DON'T KNOW IF

38:39 THAT'S A FULL COMPLEMENT OR A

38:42 SNAPSHOT IN TIME OF WHERE THEY

38:43 WERE I.

38:45 APOLOGIZE I CAN ADD TO THAT.

38:47 UM.

38:47 SOME REASON MY CAMERA STOPPED

38:50 WORKING.

38:50 TECHNOLOGY NOWADAYS.

38:51 UM.

38:53 UNDERSTAND THAT WITH THE

38:55 LAST.

38:55 UH, ROUNDS.

38:57 OF BUDGET CUTS AND ALL THAT WE

38:58 ACTUALLY ELIMINATED SEVEN

39:00 VACANCIES THAT I WAS ACTIVELY

39:01 HIRING FOR.

39:02 UM.

39:03 SO IT'S IT'S REALLY SO THAT

39:06 WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE A BARE

39:08 MINIMUM OF SERVICES TO THE

39:09 BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS.

39:10 COULD I USE MORE BODIES?

39:12 ABSOLUTELY.

39:12 BUT RIGHT NOW THIS IS JUST TO

39:14 KEEP THE BODIES THAT WE HAVE.

39:17 OKAY.

39:18 UM AND.

39:20 OKAY.

39:21 YOU KNOW.

39:22 OH, CHAIR I'M SORRY WE WERE

39:24 ASKING ABOUT THE NUMBER.

39:25 OF CURRENT VACANCIES.

39:26 I KNOW THERE IS.

39:27 A POSTING UP.

39:28 UH, ACCEPTING APPLICATIONS FOR

39:29 CANDIDATES.

39:30 BUT I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY.

39:32 ACTUAL VACANCIES.

39:32 WE SO THERE ARE CURRENTLY

39:35 THERE ARE FOUR VACANCIES RIGHT

39:37 NOW I'VE HAD THREE OFFICERS

39:40 RETIRE.

39:40 AND ONE LEAVE TO TAKE ANOTHER

39:42 JOB WITHIN DPS.

39:44 SO THAT'S WHY I'M HIRING.

39:46 UH, CURRENTLY THE FOUR

39:47 VACANCIES RIGHT NOW.

39:49 OKAY.

39:51 UM OKAY.

39:52 UH AND ARE THOSE, UH, SUPERIOR

39:55 OR.

39:56 UH.

39:57 NO, THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALL

39:58 PATROL FORCE PATROL.

40:00 OKAY.

40:01 , OKAY.

40:03 UM WELL, UH THANK YOU.

40:05 UH, I YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO

40:09 I MEAN, I GUESS COUNCILOR FLYNN

40:10 ,DID YOU HAVE A FOLLOW UP

40:11 QUESTION?

40:11 YEAH.

40:12 THANK YOU.

40:15 I I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM,

40:17 IZZY MOREIRA TWO FOR THE

40:19 OUTSTANDING WORK HE HAS DONE,

40:22 UH, THROUGHOUT HIS CAREER ON

40:23 COMMUNITY POLICING, WORKING

40:25 CLOSELY WITH UM, MANY

40:27 NEIGHBORHOODS ACROSS THE CITY.

40:28 GREAT RESPECT FOR HIM.

40:31 UM.

40:34 ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS MAYBE

40:36 IT'S TO JEREMIAH.

40:37 MAYBE IT'S TO JIM THE

40:40 PARAPROFESSIONALS THAT WERE UM

40:44 ,CUT FROM THE BUDGET UM,

40:48 MOSTLY MOSTLY WOMEN OF COLOR I

40:50 BELIEVE THERE ARE ABOUT SEVEN

40:51 UM SEVERAL HUNDRED OF THEM.

40:54 UM.

40:55 WHAT IS WHAT IS THEIR STATUS?

40:56 THEIR JOBS WERE ELIMINATED.

40:58 WHAT IS THEIR STATUS?

41:01 DID MANY.

41:03 OF THEM GET COME BACK.

41:05 TO BE POSTED?

41:07 DO THEY FIND NEW JOBS?

41:08 WERE THEY SUPPORTED?

41:11 UM WHERE ARE WE WITH UM THOSE

41:14 DEDICATED PROFESSIONAL WORKERS

41:16 THAT DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB

41:18 PARAPROFESSIONALS CRITICAL.

41:20 TO EDUCATING OUR CHILDREN.

41:21 WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THEM.

41:24 ?

41:25 SO I GUESS THE.

41:28 PARAPROFESSIONALS ARE, UM,

41:30 MEMBERS OF THE BTU AND THEY'RE

41:31 PART OF.

41:32 THEIR OWN.

41:33 COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT

41:33 THAT ISN'T.

41:34 HERE TODAY.

41:35 BUT I DO HAVE SOME KNOWLEDGE

41:38 OF WHAT'S HAPPENING.

41:39 IN OUR OUTREACH.

41:40 UH, WITH REGARDS TO, UM,

41:43 PARAPROFESSIONAL.

41:44 HIRING AND I BELIEVE THE

41:47 OFFICE.

41:47 IS WORKING THROUGH.

41:49 A FULL.

41:50 UH.

41:51 RECALL LIST, UH, AND.

41:53 OFFERING POSITIONS TO ANY

41:55 PARAPROFESSIONALS WHO MAY HAVE

41:56 BEEN IMPACTED BY CUTS UH, LAST

41:58 SCHOOL YEAR.

41:59 TO OFFER THEM SOME OF THE

42:01 VACANCIES.

42:01 UH, THEY WERE STILL.

42:03 FILLING RIGHT NOW I BELIEVE

42:04 WE'RE ALMOST THROUGH THE WHOLE

42:06 UH.

42:08 LIST THAT WOULD BE.

42:09 ELIGIBLE FOR.

42:09 A RECALL, UM, FOR REHIRE THIS

42:12 YEAR.

42:12 BUT THAT MIGHT BE A BETTER

42:13 QUESTION FOR OUR, UH, STAFFING

42:15 FOLKS WHO ARE.

42:17 WORKING ON.

42:18 YEAH, I RESPECT THAT, JEREMIAH

42:21 .

42:21 AND THANK YOU.

42:22 BUT I.

42:22 IT'S DIFFICULT TO REACH

42:23 SOME.

42:23 OF.

42:24 THOSE PEOPLE.

42:24 UM, THAT'S WHY I TAKE THE

42:26 OPPORTUNITY TO ASK THE QUESTION

42:28 NOW, BUT I, I DO HAVE A

42:30 RESPONSIBILITY TO ADVOCATE.

42:31 FOR.

42:32 THOSE WOMEN, UH, MOSTLY WOMEN

42:34 OF COLOR THAT WERE LET GO AND

42:37 PARAPROFESSIONALS PLAY A

42:38 CRITICAL ROLE IN EDUCATING OUR

42:41 CHILDREN.

42:41 I SEE THEM I SEE THEM EVERY

42:42 DAY.

42:43 THEY THEY HELP KIDS, UH, THEY

42:46 HELP MANAGE THE CLASSROOM.

42:47 UH, THEY THEY THEY SUPPORT OUR

42:49 STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES.

42:51 UH, THEY.

42:52 TAKE CHILDREN TO THE.

42:53 BATHROOM AND HELP THEM WASH

42:54 AND, UM AND STILL DO AN

42:57 OUTSTANDING JOB AND I I DON'T

42:59 LIKE TO SEE THEM BE, UM,

43:02 TERMINATED FROM THEIR POSITION.

43:03 THEY DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY

43:04 .

43:05 AND I DO THINK WE HAVE A A

43:08 MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT

43:09 THEM.

43:10 UM, IT MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE

43:12 WHAT THIS UNION BUT IT'S IT'S

43:14 WHAT THE PEOPLE THAT, UH,

43:16 DECISION MAKING.

43:17 DECISION MAKERS HERE AT AT UM

43:20 OKAY, SO MY SECOND QUESTION.

43:24 IS THE.

43:25 MEMORANDUM OF.

43:26 UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE

43:26 BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AND

43:28 THE BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOL

43:29 DEPARTMENT.

43:30 WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT?

43:31 THAT'S BEEN ONGOING FOR A

43:33 WHILE.

43:33 THAT'S I'M SURE THAT'S BEEN

43:35 SIGNED RIGHT.

43:40 AND CHIEF, THAT'S I GUESS

43:43 OUTSIDE OF MY JURISDICTION IN

43:45 TERMS OF THE YOU'RE TALKING

43:46 COUNSELOR YOU'RE.

43:47 TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN THE

43:48 BOSTON POLICE DEPARTMENT.

43:49 AND BPF NOT INVOLVING ANY

43:51 OF THE UNITS HERE.

43:52 YEAH THAT'S CORRECT.

43:53 THAT'S CORRECT.

43:56 YEAH.

43:57 THE MOU HAS BEEN AGREED UPON

44:01 UH A LITTLE HISTORY THAT WAS ON

44:02 TWO OCCASIONS DPD AGREED TO THE

44:05 MOU SIGNED OFF ON IT SENT IT TO

44:07 THE SCHOOL COMMITTEE I MEAN TO

44:09 TO BP'S EPS DID SOME TWEAK AND

44:11 SENT IT BACK TO BPD.

44:13 MOST RECENTLY WE SIGNED OFF ON

44:17 UH LAST SUMMER SUMMER OF 2025

44:21 UH WE SIGNED OFF AND SENT IT TO

44:23 UH BPD UH WHERE IT'S CURRENTLY

44:27 UH UM I DON'T BELIEVE I'VE

44:29 GOTTEN ANY NO NOTIFICATION THAT

44:31 THEY SIGNED IT ON THEIR OWN.

44:32 I KNOW THERE'S A LOT

44:34 OF CONCERNS REGARDING THE

44:35 CURRENT REPORT WRITING SYSTEM

44:37 THAT WE HAVE, AND I THINK THAT

44:39 MIGHT BE THE HICCUP.

44:42 HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THAT

44:43 ALTHOUGH THE MOU HAS NOT BEEN

44:45 SIGNED BY BOTH PARTIES, WE HAVE

44:47 BEEN VERY ACTIVE IN BASICALLY

44:49 SHARING.

44:50 INFORMATION IN ACCORDANCE WITH

44:52 THE MOU THE WAY IT IS WRITTEN

44:54 RIGHT NOW.

44:55 SO WHILE IT HASN'T BEEN SIGNED

44:56 WE WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING

44:59 TOGETHER.

45:01 MR CHAIR MAY I.

45:02 REQUEST A COPY OF THE UNSIGNED

45:05 MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING?

45:08 UH.

45:09 YOU CERTAINLY REQUESTED AND

45:11 WE'LL WE'LL LOOK FOR YOU KNOW,

45:13 WE'LL EITHER GET IT OR GET AN

45:15 ANSWER WHY THEY'RE NOT

45:16 PRODUCING IT BUT UH YEAH I

45:17 IT'S.

45:18 WHAT WOULD THAT BE A PUBLIC

45:19 DOCUMENT, MR.

45:20 CHAIRMAN.

45:21 .

45:21 I'M NOT SURE IF AN UNSIGNED MOU

45:23 THAT WAS BEING NEGOTIATED WOULD

45:25 BE PUBLIC, BUT UH I WILL

45:27 CERTAINLY ASK FOR IT.

45:29 YEAH, IT MIGHT IT MIGHT BE.

45:30 LIKE GOING ON MISTER CHAIR A

45:32 COUPLE OF YEARS NOW FOR UM THIS

45:35 UNSIGNED MOU AT SOME POINT YOU

45:39 KNOW WE THE SIGN AND IF WE

45:41 DON'T SIGN IT BUT UM JIM, ARE

45:44 YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS ISSUE?

45:48 SORRY.

45:49 UH, NO, I'M NOT THAT

45:50 FAMILIAR WITH THIS UM, UH,

45:52 SITUATION.

45:54 OR I'M I'M VERY FAMILIAR.

45:55 WITH IT.

45:56 I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET A

45:56 COPY OF THIS MOU FOR A LONG

45:58 PERIOD OF TIME, BUT, UM.

46:01 WELL, THAT'S MY REQUEST,

46:02 MISTER.

46:03 OKAY.

46:03 CAN I.

46:04 GET THE MOU BEFORE WE, UH,

46:06 UNSIGNED MOU BEFORE WE VOTE ON

46:08 THIS ON WEDNESDAY, PLEASE?

46:10 OKAY.

46:10 NOTED.

46:11 AND WE'LL WE'LL ASK TODAY AND

46:12 THAT'S A THAT'S A.

46:13 THAT'S A SIMPLE REQUEST SO OKAY

46:15 THAT'S NOT THAT'S NOT A HARD

46:17 REQUEST MISTER CHAIR THAT'S A

46:19 THAT'S DUE DILIGENCE AND

46:20 TRANSPARENCY.

46:21 OKAY OKAY WELL THANK THANK YOU

46:24 VERY MUCH COUNCILOR FLYNN.

46:26 UH UH WE DO HAVE PUBLIC

46:28 TESTIMONY.

46:29 UH, I BELIEVE WE'VE GOT, UH,

46:32 GREG MAYNARD ON THE LINE.

46:34 UH, MR MAYNARD?

46:35 YEAH.

46:36 IF YOU CAN HEAR.

46:36 US.

46:37 YOU GOT TWO MINUTES.

46:48 HELLO.

46:49 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

46:51 UM.

46:51 THANK YOU.

46:52 TWO MINUTES.

46:53 GREAT.

46:54 UH, HELLO.

46:54 MY NAME.

46:55 IS GREGORY MAYNARD AND I'M

46:56 TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF THE

46:57 BOSTON POLICY INSTITUTE.

46:58 UM.

46:59 THE CONTRACTS BEFORE THE

47:00 WAYS AND MEANS COMMITTEE TODAY

47:02 ARE IMPORTANT FOR TWO REASONS.

47:04 THEY HAVE REVEALED NEW CONCERNS

47:06 ABOUT THE CITY'S FISCAL CRISIS.

47:08 AND SECOND, THESE CONTRACTS PUT

47:10 CITY HALL'S CLAIMS ABOUT

47:12 ACTIONS ON THE ISSUE ISSUES

47:14 IDENTIFIED BY THE OIG TO THE

47:15 TEST.

47:16 SO FIRST, WHEN THESE CONTRACTS

47:18 WERE PRESENTED TO THE SCHOOL

47:19 COMMITTEE BACK IN JULY, BHP'S

47:22 LABOR RELATIONS COUNCILOR MIKE

47:24 RYAN MADE A DISTRESSING CLAIM

47:26 SAYING AND I QUOTE ALL THE

47:28 PARTIES HAVE AGREED TO PUSH ANY

47:30 SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES OUT UNTIL

47:31 NEXT YEAR WHEN THE DISTRICT MAY

47:33 HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE

47:35 CITY'S FINANCIAL OUTLOOK IS AND

47:37 QUOTE, RYAN'S TESTIMONY APPEARS

47:40 TO BE THE FIRST AND SO FAR ONLY

47:42 TIME THAT A CITY OFFICIAL HAS

47:45 EXPRESSED A SPECIFIC CONCERN

47:47 ABOUT BOSTON'S FISCAL CONDITION

47:49 SINCE THE FY 27 BUDGET WAS

47:51 PASSED.

47:52 RYAN'S TESTIMONY RAISES A

47:54 NUMBER OF IMPORTANT QUESTIONS

47:56 THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ANSWERED IN

47:57 THIS HEARING LIKE WHY THE CITY

48:00 EXPECTS THAT IT WILL BE IN A

48:01 BETTER POSITION TO NEGOTIATE

48:02 LONG TERM CONTRACTS IN A YEAR

48:04 AND HOW MANY OTHER CONTRACTS

48:06 WERE AFFECTED BY THIS FISCAL

48:08 CONCERN?

48:09 THE SECOND REASON THESE

48:11 CONTRACTS ARE IMPORTANT IS THAT

48:12 THREE OF THE FIVE UH CONTRACTS

48:14 ARE FOR UNIONS INVOLVED IN THE

48:16 ISSUES FLAGGED BY THE RECENT

48:17 OFFICE OF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL

48:19 REPORT, WHICH FOUND WIDESPREAD

48:21 MISMANAGEMENT.

48:22 AND FRAUD.

48:23 AT DPS.

48:24 THESE UNIONS ARE SEIU LOCAL 888

48:28 PROFESSIONAL EMPLOYEES CHAPTER

48:29 DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND.

48:30 ENGINEERING UH, THE BOSTON

48:32 SCHOOL DEPARTMENT PLANT

48:34 ADMINISTRATORS ASSOCIATION AND

48:36 THE AFL-CIO COUNCIL 39 LOCAL

48:39 2814 STOREKEEPERS AND STORES

48:42 DELIVERYMEN UNION.

48:43 WHEN THE OIG REPORT CAME OUT,

48:45 BHP'S CLAIMED THAT THEY WERE

48:47 ALREADY AWARE OF AND IN THE

48:48 PROCESS OF ADDRESSING THE

48:49 ISSUES IT REVEALED.

48:51 SAYING THIS, THE DISTRICT HAS

48:53 QUOTE IMPLEMENTED A NUMBER

48:55 OF BUSINESS REFORMS TO

48:57 STREAMLINE PAYMENT AND

48:58 CONTRACTING SYSTEMS, REMOVED

49:00 INDIVIDUALS AND HIRED NEW

49:02 LEADERS INTO KEY PROCUREMENT

49:03 ROLES AND SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED

49:05 THE USE OF SOLE SOURCE

49:07 CONTRACTS AND QUOTE TODAY WE

49:09 HAVE HEARD SOMETHING VERY

49:11 DIFFERENT FROM THE DISTRICT

49:12 STATEMENT BACK IN JULY, CHIEF

49:15 OPERATING OFFICER FORD SAYS

49:16 THAT THE DISTRICT IS STILL

49:17 SORTING THROUGH THE OIG REPORT

49:19 AND IS STILL FORMULATING A

49:21 RESPONSE.

49:22 THE OIG REPORT CALLS FOR

49:23 SWEEPING REFORMS THAT WOULD

49:25 AFFECT ALL THREE OF THOSE.

49:27 UNIONS CITY HALL AND BHP'S

49:29 OFFICIALS WHO TESTIFIED TODAY

49:31 SHOULD BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT

49:33 HOW ADDRESSING THE ISSUES IN

49:34 THE OIG REPORT INFORMED THIS

49:36 CONTRACT AND HOW THE CHANGES

49:38 ALREADY MADE ARE GOING TO

49:40 INFORM FUTURE CONTRACTS.

49:42 THE FACT THAT NONE OF THIS HAS

49:44 BEEN TALKED ABOUT IS REALLY

49:46 DISTRESSING AND I THINK IT

49:47 SHOULD BOTHER ALL THE

49:50 COUNCILORS ON THIS HEARING.

49:51 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

49:53 OKAY.

49:54 THANK YOU.

49:57 UH OKAY.

49:57 UH LET'S.

49:58 SEE WITH THAT SAID I DON'T

50:01 GERSHMAN NO ONE ELSE ON FOR

50:03 PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

50:04 AND MR CHAIR OKAY.

50:07 UH, WELL, THE PLAN IS TO BRING

50:09 THIS UP FOR A VOTE TOMORROW.

50:11 UM, UH, WE'LL LOOK TO TRY TO

50:14 GET THAT MOU UM, AND, UH, YOU

50:18 KNOW, ANSWER ANY OTHER

50:20 QUESTIONS, PLEASE.

50:21 COUNCILORS REACH OUT TO MY

50:22 OFFICE OR CENTRAL.

50:23 UH, BUT UH, WITH THAT SAID, I

50:25 JUST WANT TO THANK THE

50:26 PANELISTS FOR BEING HERE FOR MY

50:27 COLLEAGUES FOR ATTENDING.

50:29 UH, AND UH, THIS HEARING ON

50:31 DOCKET NUMBERS 1829321838 IS

50:35 NOW ADJOURNED.

50:36 THANK YOU.

50:37 THANK YOU COUNCILORS APPRECIATE

50:39 THAT.