Planning, Development and Transportation on October 16, 2026

0:48 FOR THE RECORD MY NAME IS

0:50 SHARON DURKAN, DISTRICT EIGHT

0:51 CITY COUNCILOR AND I'M THE

0:52 CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY

0:53 COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON PLANNING,

0:54 DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION.

0:55 TODAY IS OCTOBER 16TH AND THE

0:57 EXACT TIME IS 10:02 A.M..

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1:22 AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.

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1:44 TODAY'S HEARING AND EXCUSE

1:46 ME I'M GOING TO BE THE CLERK

1:47 FOR A SECOND.

1:48 I HAVE TO READ ALL OF THESE, UH

1:50 ,APPOINTMENTS.

1:50 TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET

1:53 1515.

1:53 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE

1:55 CONFIRMATION OF THE

1:55 REAPPOINTMENT OF GIOVANNI

1:57 VALENCIA AS A MEMBER OF THE

1:58 ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL FOR A

1:59 TERM EXPIRING MAY 1ST, 2027.

2:02 DOCKET 1516 MESSAGE IN ORDER

2:04 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE

2:06 REAPPOINTMENT OF KATIE, WE WELL

2:07 AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD

2:09 OF APPEALS FOR A TERM EXPIRING

2:10 MAY 1ST, 2027 DOCKET 1517

2:14 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE

2:15 CONFIRMATION OF THE

2:16 REAPPOINTMENT OF ALAN ELLINGHAM

2:17 AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD

2:19 OF APPEALS FOR A TERM EXPIRING

2:20 MAY 1ST, 2028.

2:22 DOCKET 1518 MESSAGE IN ORDER

2:24 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE

2:25 REAPPOINTMENT OF SHERRY AS A

2:27 MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD

2:28 OF APPEAL FOR A TERM EXPIRING

2:29 MAY 1ST, 2029.

2:31 DOCKET 1519 MESSAGE IN ORDER

2:33 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE

2:35 REAPPOINTMENT OF SHAMAYA TURNER

2:37 AS A MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD

2:38 OF APPEALS FOR A TERM EXPIRING

2:40 MAY 1ST, 2029.

2:41 DOCKET 1520 MESSAGE IN ORDER

2:44 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE

2:45 REAPPOINTMENT OF JEAN PINTO AS

2:48 AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE

2:49 ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL FOR A

2:51 TERM EXPIRING MAY 1ST, 2027.

2:54 MESSAGE UM SORRY DOCKET 1521

2:57 MESSAGE IN ORDER FOR THE

2:58 CONFIRMATION OF THE

2:59 REAPPOINTMENT OF DAVID COLLINS

3:00 AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE

3:01 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A

3:02 TERM EXPIRING MAY 1ST, 2028.

3:05 DOCKET 1522 MESSAGE IN ORDER

3:07 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE

3:08 APPOINTMENT OF CARLA MONTERO AS

3:11 AN ALTERNATE MEMBER OF THE

3:12 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A

3:14 TERM EXPIRING MAY 1ST, 2028.

3:16 DOCKET 1523 PASSAGE.

3:19 IN ORDER FOR THE CONFIRMATION

3:20 OF THE APPOINTMENT OF PATRICK

3:21 WALSH AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER

3:22 OF THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS

3:23 FOR A TERM EXPIRING NOVEMBER

3:24 1ST, 2028.

3:27 DOCKET 1524 MESSAGE IN ORDER

3:29 FOR THE CONFIRMATION OF THE

3:30 APPOINTMENT OF WILLIAM

3:30 MASTERSON AS AN ALTERNATE

3:32 MEMBER OF THE ZONING BOARD

3:33 OF APPEALS FOR A TERM EXPIRING

3:35 MAY 1ST, 2029.

3:36 THESE MATTERS WERE SPONSORED BY

3:37 MICHELLE WU AND REFERRED TO THE

3:39 COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 5TH 2026.

3:41 UM WE ARE JOINED BY MY

3:42 COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL

3:43 RIGHT NOW JUST UH,

3:44 COUNCILOR ERIN MURPHY.

3:46 UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST

3:48 IMPORTANT THINGS THAT WE DO.

3:49 UM, AS UH AS IN OUR COMMITTEE

3:52 AS THE PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AND

3:54 TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE.

3:55 IT'S A PRIVILEGE TO OVERSEE

3:56 THESE NOMINATIONS TO SOME

3:57 OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BOARDS

3:59 AND COMMISSIONS.

4:00 THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEAL IS

4:01 ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL

4:03 APPOINTED BODIES IN BOSTON.

4:04 IT PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN

4:05 SHAPING THE FUTURE OF OUR CITY

4:06 AND ENSURING WE CAN GROW WHILE

4:08 PROTECTING OUR PAST.

4:09 THE BOSTON ZONING CODE IS

4:11 SIGNIFICANTLY LONGER AND MORE

4:12 COMPLEX THAN OTHER CITIES

4:14 OF SIMILAR SIZE, ACCORDING TO

4:15 ZONING EXPERT SARAH BRONIN.

4:17 IT IS BLOATED, OUTDATED,

4:19 INCONSISTENT AND INEQUITABLE

4:20 AND THE FOLKS THAT WE HAVE

4:22 BEFORE US TODAY ARE THE FOLKS

4:23 THAT HAVE TO WADE THROUGH THOSE

4:24 TOUGH DECISIONS CASE BY CASE AS

4:27 A RESULT OF THE ZONING BOARD

4:28 OF APPEALS CARRIES SIGNIFICANT

4:30 RESPONSIBILITY IN DETERMINING

4:31 WHEN TO GRANT RELIEF TO THESE

4:33 REQUIREMENTS UM AND ENSURING

4:35 THAT THESE DECISIONS SERVE THE

4:36 BEST INTERESTS OF BOSTON

4:37 RESIDENTS.

4:38 BOSTON, LIKE CITIES ACROSS THE

4:39 COUNTRY, FACES URGENT

4:41 CHALLENGES THAT REQUIRE US TO

4:42 BUILD MORE HOUSING AND ADDRESS

4:43 OUR AFFORDABILITY CRISIS,

4:45 MAKING OUR BUILDINGS MORE

4:46 SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT FOR

4:47 CLIMATE CHANGE AND PROTECTING

4:48 RESIDENTS FROM DISPLACEMENT.

4:50 WE ARE HERE THIS MORNING TO

4:51 CONSIDER NOMINATIONS OF TEN

4:53 HIGHLY QUALIFIED INDIVIDUALS

4:55 WITH EXPERTISE ACROSS PLANNING,

4:56 DEVELOPMENT, ARCHITECTURE,

4:58 CONSTRUCTION AND HISTORIC

4:58 PRESERVATION WHO HAVE

5:00 DEMONSTRATED COMMITMENT AND

5:01 CONTRIBUTIONS TO OUR CITY.

5:02 THEIR PRIOR CIVIC ENGAGEMENTS

5:04 INCLUDING THROUGH UH SERVING ON

5:06 WHAT THEY'RE BEING REAPPOINTED

5:08 FOR.

5:08 THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR

5:10 YOUR CONTINUED INTEREST IN

5:11 SERVING OUR CITY AND TO THOSE

5:12 BEING REAPPOINTED.

5:13 THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED

5:15 SERVICE AND CONTRIBUTIONS.

5:16 IT IS AN HONOR TO SERVE IN THIS

5:17 CAPACITY, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO

5:19 HEARING MORE ABOUT WHAT DRAWS

5:20 YOU INTO THIS WORK AND WHAT

5:21 INFORMS YOUR PHILOSOPHY AND

5:24 APPROACH.

5:24 UM, WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO GIVE

5:26 EACH NOMINEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO

5:27 INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AND SHARE

5:28 A BIT ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUND AS

5:29 WE MOVE INTO QUESTIONS FROM

5:30 COUNCILORS, WE ARE GOING TO

5:32 START WITH OUR APPOINTEES AND

5:33 THEN UM, SWAP PANELS TO HEAR

5:35 FROM NEW APPOINTEES.

5:36 UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT I WANTED

5:38 TO GIVE UM COUNCILOR AND MURPHY

5:39 A CHANCE FOR AN OPENING

5:40 STATEMENT.

5:41 THANK YOU.

5:42 UM THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR BEING

5:44 HERE ON THIS RAINY FRIDAY

5:46 MORNING.

5:46 I APPRECIATE.

5:47 YOU ALL BEING HERE.

5:49 AND THANK YOU TO THE CHAIR FOR

5:50 HOLDING THIS.

5:51 LIKE SHE SAID, WE.

5:53 GET APPOINTMENTS TO SO MANY

5:55 DIFFERENT BOARDS AND

5:55 COMMISSIONS ACROSS THE CITY AND

5:57 IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE.

5:59 GIVE YOU THE RESPECT I.

6:00 THINK ALSO CALLING IN SO THAT

6:02 YOU CAN SHARE WITH US WHY THE

6:04 MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION

6:06 THOUGHT.

6:06 THAT YOU WOULD BE.

6:08 WELL SUITED FOR THESE

6:09 POSITIONS.

6:10 A FEW OF YOU.

6:11 I DO KNOW PERSONALLY I KNOW

6:12 YOU SHERRY FOR YOU WORK AT

6:14 TUFTS AND.

6:15 IN.

6:15 THE.

6:15 CHINATOWN COMMUNITY.

6:16 I KNOW PAT AND CARLA PERSONALLY

6:18 ALSO.

6:19 THANK YOU FOR THE WORK YOU DO

6:21 IN THAT MENTAL HEALTH SOCIAL

6:22 WORK SPACE, LABOR.

6:23 SPACE IT'S IMPORTANT.

6:25 UM BUT OTHERS THAT I DON'T KNOW

6:27 PERSONALLY I'VE READ THROUGH

6:28 ALL THE RESUMES.

6:30 IMPRESSIVE.

6:30 SO I JUST WANT TO JUST AN

6:32 OPENING STATEMENT BEFORE WE

6:34 LISTEN TO YOUR.

6:36 UM YOU KNOW, YOU SPEAK.

6:37 BUT I WANT TO BEGIN BY

6:39 RECOGNIZING THOSE.

6:40 MEMBERS OF THE ZONING BOARD OF.

6:41 APPEAL WHO ARE BEING CONSIDERED

6:42 FOR REAPPOINTMENT.

6:43 UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR

6:45 CONTINUED.

6:45 SERVICE TO THE CITY OF BOSTON

6:47 AND FOR THE TIME.

6:47 COMMITMENT AND THOUGHTFUL

6:49 CONSIDERATION.

6:49 YOU BRING TO.

6:50 THIS IMPORTANT

6:51 RESPONSIBILITY.

6:52 I ALSO WANT TO WELCOME THOSE.

6:54 WHO ARE STEPPING FORWARD TO

6:55 SERVE FOR.

6:55 THE FIRST TIME.

6:57 I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS.

6:58 TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY

6:59 AND.

7:00 CONTRIBUTE YOUR TIME AND.

7:02 EXPERIENCE TO THE CITY.

7:03 THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS

7:05 PLAYS AN IMPORTANT.

7:06 ROLE IN SHAPING OUR

7:07 NEIGHBORHOODS.

7:07 IN THE DECISIONS MADE.

7:09 BY ITS MEMBERS HAVE A DIRECT

7:10 IMPACT ON.

7:11 RESIDENTS, HOMEOWNERS,

7:13 BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITIES

7:14 ACROSS BOSTON.

7:15 AND I KNOW THIS WORK IS NOT.

7:17 ALWAYS EASY.

7:19 YOU'RE OFTEN ASKED TO BALANCE

7:20 COMPETING INTERESTS AND MAKE.

7:22 DIFFICULT DECISIONS, AND I.

7:23 APPRECIATE THE.

7:24 RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES

7:25 WITH THAT.

7:26 I'M LOOKING FORWARD.

7:27 TO HEARING FROM ALL OF.

7:28 YOU AND ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO

7:30 VOTING.

7:31 SUPPORTING YOUR.

7:32 APPOINTMENTS WHEN IT COMES.

7:33 UP AT OUR NEXT.

7:33 MEETING ON WEDNESDAY.

7:35 SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING

7:36 HERE.

7:36 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

7:37 AND WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY

7:38 COUNCILOR ED FLYNN.

7:39 UM HE HAS UM A SORT OF YOU

7:40 KNOW, IMPECCABLE ATTENDANCE IN

7:42 THIS UH, COMMITTEE.

7:43 SO JUST THANK YOU FOR BEING

7:44 HERE AGAIN, COUNCILOR FLYNN.

7:46 AND, UH, WANTED TO GIVE YOU A

7:47 CHANCE FOR AN OPENING

7:48 STATEMENT.

7:48 YEAH.

7:49 THANK YOU.

7:50 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

7:51 AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE, UH,

7:54 PANEL THAT'S HERE I SUPPORT I

7:57 APOLOGIZE FOR BEING A FEW

7:58 MINUTES LATE.

7:59 UM, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY

8:02 PROBABLY TO WORK WITH A LOT

8:03 OF A LOT OF PEOPLE ON ON ON THE

8:05 BOARD AND JUST WANT TO SAY

8:07 THANK YOU TO YOU TO YOU FOR,

8:10 UM, STEPPING FORWARD FOR THE

8:11 WORK YOU'RE DOING.

8:13 UM, SOMETIMES I AGREE WITH YOUR

8:15 DECISION.

8:15 SOMETIMES I MAY DISAGREE WITH

8:17 YOUR DECISION BUT I RESPECT THE

8:18 WORK YOU'RE DOING AND I THINK

8:21 YOU ARE A CREDIT TO THE

8:22 CITIZENS OF THE OF THE CITY, TO

8:24 THE TO THE CITY ITSELF.

8:25 AND I WANT TO SAY WANT TO SAY

8:27 THANK YOU FOR, UM, YOUR

8:29 LEADERSHIP AND HELPING BUILD A

8:31 STRONGER BOSTON UM I DO WANT TO

8:37 ACKNOWLEDGE UM.

8:40 I REPRESENT DISTRICT TWO WHICH

8:42 INCLUDES SOUTH BOSTON'S THE

8:44 SOUTH END AND CHINATOWN.

8:45 BUT I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE

8:47 THE INCREDIBLE WORK AND THE

8:50 COMMUNITY OF SHERRY AND YOUR

8:53 COMMITMENT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD

8:55 NOT JUST IN NOT JUST IN

8:57 CHINATOWN BUT THROUGHOUT THE

8:58 CITY BUT REPRESENTING, UH,

9:01 PEOPLE IN NEED SUPPORTING

9:03 FAMILIES.

9:03 UM, YOU'RE YOU'RE A CREDIT TO

9:05 YOU TO THE ZONING BOARD.

9:08 YOU'RE A CREDIT TO TUFTS

9:09 MEDICAL CENTER AND YOU CREDIT

9:11 YOUR CREDIT TO THE CITY

9:12 OF BOSTON.

9:13 SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

9:14 TO SHERRY, BUT SAY THANK YOU TO

9:16 ALL OF THE MEMBERS HERE AND

9:18 THOSE THAT WILL BECOME MEMBERS

9:19 I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO

9:20 SUPPORTING UM, ALL OF THEM.

9:23 UH, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

9:24 THANK YOU SO MUCH,

9:25 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

9:26 UM.

9:26 AND JUST TO KEEP IT.

9:27 UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY

9:29 DOCKETS I'M GOING TO GO IN THE

9:30 ORDER IN WHICH THE DOCKETS WERE

9:31 CALLED EVEN THOUGH YOU GUYS

9:33 AREN'T SITTING IN THAT ORDER.

9:34 UM, AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO

9:36 IS GIVE EACH OF YOU AN

9:37 OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE MORE

9:39 ABOUT.

9:39 YOUR WORK.

9:40 YOU ARE ALL REAPPOINTMENTS

9:41 SO UM SO UM I ALWAYS LIKE TO

9:43 ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TALK ABOUT,

9:45 YOU KNOW, WHAT BROUGHT THEM TO

9:46 THIS WORK, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT

9:48 TO THEM WHAT ROOTS THEM IN

9:49 COMMUNITY.

9:50 UM, BUT I KNOW A FEW OF YOU

9:51 HAVE REMARKS PREPARED.

9:52 UM, AND FOR THOSE THAT DON'T

9:53 FEEL FREE TO JUST SPEAK OFF THE

9:55 CUFF TO YOUR EXPERIENCE, UM,

9:57 WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT

9:58 TO AROUND TWO MINUTES BUT I'M

10:00 NOT GOING TO TIME YOU SO THAT

10:01 AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

10:03 ANY UH QUESTIONS FROM

10:05 COLLEAGUES.

10:05 DON'T BE SURPRISED BECAUSE

10:07 WE'VE SEEN YOUR RESUME IS WE

10:08 KNOW HOW QUALIFIED.

10:10 YOU ARE.

10:10 IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY VERY

10:11 SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR YOU IN

10:13 PARTICULAR, WHO KNOWS?

10:14 WE MIGHT HAVE VERY SPECIFIC

10:15 QUESTIONS FOR EACH OF YOU

10:16 INDIVIDUALLY I DON'T KNOW, BUT

10:18 UM BUT DON'T BE SURPRISED IF

10:19 THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO

10:20 SHARE ABOUT WHY YOU DO WHAT YOU

10:23 DO.

10:23 UM, SO WE'RE GOING TO START

10:24 WITH GIOVANNI VALENCIA AND UM,

10:28 JUST MAKE SURE TO BRING THE MIC

10:29 TO YOU.

10:29 YEAH.

10:30 THANK YOU.

10:30 ALL RIGHT.

10:31 THANK YOU.

10:33 YES OKAY.

10:34 YES.

10:35 GOOD MORNING.

10:36 UM, CONSIDER.

10:37 DURKAN GOOD MORNING, CITY

10:39 COUNCILORS.

10:40 I AM HONORED TO BE HERE WITH

10:42 YOU AND TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY

10:44 TO REAFFIRM MY INTEREST IN

10:46 CONTINUING TO SERVE OUR CITY AS

10:48 A MEMBER OF THE BOSTON ZONING

10:49 BOARD OF APPEAL.

10:51 MY NAME IS GIOVANNI VALENCIA.

10:53 I AM A PROUD COLOMBIAN AMERICAN

10:54 CITIZEN WHO CHOOSE TO CALL THE

10:57 CITY OF BOSTON MY HOME.

10:58 HOW ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO SINCE

11:02 IMMIGRATING TO THE U.S., I HAVE

11:04 HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING AS

11:06 A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER ACROSS

11:08 MANY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS

11:10 INCLUDING IS BOSTON, JAMAICA

11:11 PLAIN, ROXBURY THE SOUTH END I

11:14 PARK IN MY OWN NEIGHBORHOOD

11:16 OF ROXBURY.

11:18 I AM ALSO A BOSTON PUBLIC

11:20 SCHOOL PARENT OF TWO KIDS AND

11:23 MY WIFE WORKS FOR BPAS AS A

11:25 DISTRICT SOCIAL WORKER.

11:26 THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OF OUR

11:28 NEIGHBORHOOD SCHOOLS.

11:29 I AM AN ARCHITECT IN A PLANNER

11:32 BY TRAINING AND A COMMUNITY

11:33 ORGANIZER BY CAREER CHOICE.

11:36 FOR MANY YEARS I WORKED FOR

11:38 COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT

11:40 CORPORATIONS PROMOTING THE

11:42 CREATION AND PRESERVATION

11:43 OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL

11:45 AS A REHABILITATION OF BSI

11:47 DEVELOPMENTS.

11:49 OVER THE YEARS I HAVE LISTENED

11:51 TO THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS SHARE

11:53 THEIR NEEDS, FRUSTRATIONS AND

11:55 HOPES TO LIVE, WORK AND REMAIN

11:57 IN THE CITY OF BOSTON.

12:00 HOW AN EXPERIENCED LIFE HERE AS

12:02 A LONG TIME RENTER AND NOW AS A

12:04 HOMEOWNER, I KNOW FIRSTHAND THE

12:07 IMMENSE CHALLENGES OUR

12:09 RESIDENTS FACE IN FINDING

12:11 AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR SIMPLY

12:13 FINDING HOUSING AT ALL IN OUR

12:15 CITY.

12:17 WHEN I SUBMITTED MY APPLICATION

12:19 IN 2022 TO THE CBA USING THE

12:22 CITY'S BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS

12:23 WEBSITE, I HAD NO EXPECTATIONS

12:26 OF EVER RECEIVING A CALL BACK

12:28 FROM THE ADMINISTRATION.

12:29 BUT THEY DID AND I'M HERE

12:32 BECAUSE OF THAT.

12:34 I WANTED TO TAKE A MOMENT TO

12:35 EXPRESS MY SINCERE APPRECIATION

12:37 TO MAJOR MICHELLE WU FOR

12:39 TRUSTING ME.

12:41 AS A.

12:42 COMMUNITY MEMBER WITH THIS

12:44 RESPONSIBILITY AND FOR

12:46 REAPPOINTING ME TO SERVE FOR AN

12:47 OVERTURNED.

12:50 OVER THE LAST FOUR YEARS I HAVE

12:52 ATTENDED MOST HEARINGS AND

12:53 REVIEWED CLOSE TO 4000 CASES.

12:56 WHILE MANY OF THESE APPEALS

12:58 FOCUSED ON HOUSING, THE ZONING

13:01 BOARD OF APPEALS ALSO REVIEWS

13:03 CONDITIONAL USES FOR LOCAL

13:05 BUSINESSES, BILLBOARDS, LABS

13:07 AND MEDICAL FACILITIES, AMONG

13:09 OTHER USES.

13:11 EVERY PROPOSAL IS UNIQUE AND I

13:15 AM CONFIDENT THAT MY COLLEAGUES

13:16 AND I DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE OUR

13:19 CITY MOVES FORWARD AND BECOMES

13:21 MORE WELCOMING SPACE FOR

13:23 EVERYONE AND FOR GENERATIONS TO

13:24 COME.

13:25 THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

13:26 TO SHARE MY GREAT INTEREST IN

13:28 CONTINUING THIS WORK.

13:29 THANK YOU.

13:30 THANK YOU SO MUCH GIOVANNI.

13:31 UM NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

13:32 KATIE.

13:33 WE WELL, UM KATIE IS MY

13:35 CONSTITUENT UM AND ALSO UH,

13:37 WORKS IN THIS, UH, WORK

13:39 PROFESSIONALLY.

13:40 SO, UM SO THANK YOU, UH, KATIE

13:41 ,FOR LENDING YOUR EXPERTISE TO

13:43 THE CITY OF BOSTON.

13:45 THANK YOU.

13:45 GOOD MORNING.

13:46 COUNCILORS.

13:46 UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR KIND

13:48 WORDS IN YOUR OPENING REMARKS.

13:49 IT WAS.

13:49 REALLY NICE TO HEAR.

13:50 UH, MY NAME IS KATIE.

13:52 WE WELL, I CURRENTLY LIVE IN

13:54 THE WEST END AND I'M THE DEPUTY

13:56 DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND

13:57 DEVELOPMENT.

13:58 FOR THE CITY OF NEW IN.

13:59 I FIRST BECAME INTERESTED IN

14:01 ZONING WHILE ENROLLED IN A

14:03 PARALEGAL COURSE AT BOSTON.

14:04 UNIVERSITY.

14:05 UH, WHERE THE LAST MODULE

14:07 WAS REAL ESTATE LAW.

14:08 I REMEMBER BEING FASCINATED

14:10 LEARNING ABOUT ZONING, THE

14:11 BUILT ENVIRONMENT AND THE LEGAL

14:13 PROVISIONS WHICH GOVERN LAND.

14:15 I LATER WENT BACK TO SCHOOL FOR

14:17 MY MASTER'S IN CITY PLANNING

14:18 WITH THE GOAL OF WORKING IN

14:20 MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENT UH,

14:21 BECAUSE OF HOW

14:22 INTERDISCIPLINARY THE WORK IS

14:24 THE INTERSECTION OF LAW,

14:26 ARCHITECTURE AND GOVERNANCE

14:27 OF HOW DECISIONS MADE AT THE

14:29 LOCAL LEVEL IMPACT RESIDENTS

14:31 HAS BEEN WHAT HAS DRIVEN MY

14:33 WORK IN IDENTIFYING A CAREER I

14:35 ENJOY IMMENSELY.

14:38 MY EXPERIENCE IN NEWTON HAS

14:40 PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON

14:41 DEVELOPMENT REVIEW WHICH HAS

14:43 PREPARED ME WELL FOR MY SERVICE

14:45 ON THE BOARD.

14:46 WHILE ZONING DIFFERS FROM

14:47 COMMUNITY TO COMMUNITY, I THINK

14:50 OF ZONING AS ITS OWN LANGUAGE

14:51 AND ONE I HAVE BECOME WELL

14:52 VERSED IN OVER EIGHT YEARS UM

14:55 THIS HAS HELPED ME UNDERSTAND

14:56 THE FRAMEWORK AND NUANCES

14:59 OF BOSTON ZONING AND THE CASES

15:01 BEFORE THE BOARD WORKING IN A

15:03 MUNICIPALITY ALSO AIDS IN MY

15:04 WORK ON THE BOARD AS I

15:06 UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT LAYERS

15:07 AND ROLES OF CITY DEPARTMENTS

15:09 THAT CAN BE INVOLVED IN

15:10 PROPERTY SUCH AS PLANNING

15:12 INSPECTIONAL SERVICES AND

15:14 ASSESSING.

15:15 I'VE SERVED ON THE BOARD SINCE

15:17 DECEMBER 2022.

15:18 I ENJOY USING MY PROFESSIONAL

15:20 TRAINING AS A PLANNER TO APPLY

15:22 MY SKILLSET AND KNOWLEDGE TO MY

15:23 SERVICE ON THE BOARD I REVIEW

15:25 ALL OF THE MATERIALS ASSOCIATED

15:27 ASSOCIATED WITH AN APPLICATION

15:28 AND I STRIVE TO BE FULLY

15:30 TRANSPARENT IN MY RATIONALE

15:32 BEHIND MY VOTES TO FURTHER

15:34 TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY

15:35 .

15:35 I ENJOY WORKING WITH MY

15:37 COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD AND I

15:39 RESPECT THEM.

15:39 THEIR DEDICATION AND

15:41 PERSPECTIVE THEY BRING TO THE

15:42 BOARD TREMENDOUSLY.

15:43 I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY

15:45 QUESTIONS AND THANK YOU FOR.

15:46 CONSIDERING MY REAPPOINTMENT TO

15:47 THE BOARD.

15:48 THANK YOU SO MUCH KATIE.

15:49 UM, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

15:51 ALLEN LANGHAM.

15:53 UM GOOD MORNING.

15:54 I JUST WANT TO SAY GOOD

15:55 MORNING TO THE CITY OFFICIALS,

15:56 BUT I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE

15:58 MAYOR MICHELLE WU FOR THIS

16:01 OPPORTUNITY.

16:02 UM, I'M A, UH I RECENTLY.

16:04 RETIRED AS A LABOR AH AT LOCAL

16:06 22 OF NORTH AMERICA.

16:08 MORE THAN 40 YEARS OF SERVICE.

16:10 UM, I SERVED AS.

16:13 BOTH A LABOR AS AN ALTERNATE

16:15 FOR MORE THAN 25.

16:17 YEARS AS AN.

16:18 EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBER AND AS

16:19 STEWARD AND I.

16:21 DEDICATE MYSELF.

16:22 TO ADVOCATE FOR WORKERS

16:24 HELPING THEM NAVIGATE COMPANY

16:26 CULTURE AND ENSURING THEY FEEL

16:28 RESPECTFUL, SUPPORTED AND

16:29 VALUED AND THEIR ROLES.

16:31 I'M A LIFELONG.

16:32 RESIDENT OF BOSTON.

16:34 I GRADUATED FROM BOSTON PUBLIC

16:35 SCHOOL SYSTEM.

16:37 I DID UH.

16:38 MY SERVICE.

16:39 REFLECTS AND EXTENSION

16:40 INVOLVEMENT IN YOUTH

16:41 DEVELOPMENT ATHLETIC COMMUNITY

16:43 OUTREACH.

16:45 I PARTICIPATED IN PROGRAMS OF.

16:46 THE FEED MILLS FOR THE.

16:48 SENIOR CITIZENS AND I ALSO

16:50 COACH BASKETBALL FOR A PROGRAM

16:52 CALLED NO BOOKS NO FOR MORE

16:54 THAN TEN YEARS I ALSO COACHED

16:56 THE BOSTON RAIDERS POP WARNER

16:58 PROGRAM UNDER THE WILSON

16:59 FAMILY.

17:00 COACHING FOOTBALL IS

17:02 RECOGNITION FOR HIS OUTSTANDING

17:03 COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT AND I MY.

17:06 ACCOMPLISHMENT WAS WITH THE

17:07 BOSTON RED SOX ORGANIZATION.

17:09 I WAS AWARDED.

17:10 LIKE A COMMUNITY.

17:12 ADVOCATE HELPING OUT YOUTH.

17:13 UH, BUT I'M ALSO.

17:16 INVOLVED IN MY CHURCH.

17:17 I GO TO GRANT AME CHURCH

17:19 LOCATED AT 1906 1906

17:22 WASHINGTON.

17:22 STREET AND.

17:23 I HAD BUT I DID A LOT

17:24 OF ROLES IN THERE.

17:25 I MEAN I STARTED A MENTOR

17:26 PROGRAM FOR YOUNG KIDS

17:28 BASICALLY I TRY TO HELP OUT

17:29 MEANT UH.

17:30 MENTORING THE YOUTH.

17:31 IN BOSTON.

17:32 UM.

17:33 SO I JUST I JUST WANT TO.

17:34 SAY THIS HAS BEEN A REAL

17:36 WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY JUST EVEN

17:38 WORKING WITH THESE PEOPLE HERE.

17:40 AND I'M.

17:40 LEARNING SO MUCH.

17:43 ABOUT THE ZBA AND IT'S VERY

17:45 INTERESTING.

17:46 I WAS TELLING SOMEBODY.

17:47 JUST A LITTLE WHILE AGO I WISH

17:49 I COULD HAVE.

17:50 STARTED.

17:50 THIS JOURNEY 30 YEARS AGO.

17:52 YOU KNOW IT'S.

17:53 VERY INTERESTING.

17:54 I'M LEARNING A LOT AND I JUST.

17:55 WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS

17:57 FOR TRUSTING.

17:58 ME TO.

17:59 HELP THIS CITY TO THE NEXT

18:00 LEVEL.

18:00 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

18:02 UM NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

18:04 SHERRY, MADAM CHAIR.

18:06 GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.

18:08 AS YOU KNOW I LIKE TO I LIKE TO

18:09 ASK OTHERS TO BE PITHY SO SO

18:11 WILL I THANK THANK YOU, CHAIR

18:13 DURKAN.

18:13 THANK YOU.

18:14 COUNCILORS UH, FLYNN AND MURPHY

18:15 FOR FOR HAVING US TODAY.

18:17 UH, SO MY NAME IS SHERRY AND

18:19 I'VE HAD THE PRIVILEGE

18:20 OF SERVING ON ZBA SINCE 2021.

18:22 UH, FOR THOSE WHO KNOW, UH UH,

18:25 I GAVE BIRTH THAT SATURDAY AND

18:26 SERVED THAT TUESDAY.

18:29 SO THANK YOU FOR ZOOM AND THANK

18:31 YOU FOR ALLOWING UH FOR

18:33 ACCOMMODATING UH FOR

18:33 ACCOMMODATING THAT UH, IT'S AN

18:36 HONOR FOR ME TO SERVE THE CITY,

18:37 UH, THE CITY AND RESIDENTS

18:39 OF BOSTON VIA ZBA I'VE LIVED IN

18:41 BOSTON FOR UH, 30 PLUS YEARS,

18:43 UH, IN JAMAICA PLAIN AND NOW IN

18:45 DORCHESTER.

18:46 AND AS FOLKS WHO KNOW ME,

18:48 CHINATOWN, UH, IS MY CULTURAL

18:49 HOME.

18:50 IT'S MY HOME AWAY FROM HOME.

18:51 UH, I HAVE A FIVE YEAR OLD AND

18:53 WHO ALSO KEEPS ME IN CHINATOWN

18:55 ,SOUTH END AND ALL OVER THE

18:57 CITY OF BOSTON, UH, ALL THE

18:58 TIME.

18:58 AND SO, UM, AS A COLLEGE

19:00 STUDENT, I WORKED ON BEHALF

19:02 OF CHINATOWN AND BOSTON'S ASIAN

19:03 COMMUNITY THROUGH VARIOUS, UH,

19:05 INTERNSHIPS WITH THE ASIAN TASK

19:06 FORCE AGAINST DOMESTIC

19:07 VIOLENCE, UH ASIAN AMERICAN

19:09 RESOURCE WORKSHOP AND GREATER

19:10 BOSTON LEGAL SERVICES.

19:12 UH, I TRANSITIONED TO BOARD

19:14 SERVICE UH WITH THE COMMUNITY

19:16 AFTER I BECAME AFTER I WENT

19:18 INTO PUBLIC SERVICE FOR MY DAY

19:20 JOB.

19:20 UH SO AND I CONTINUE TO SERVE

19:22 ON VARIOUS UH, BOARDS UH, IN

19:25 CHINATOWN INCLUDING UH, THE

19:26 CHINESE HISTORICAL SOCIETY

19:27 OF NEW ENGLAND CHINATOWN

19:28 COALITION AND UH CHINATOWN

19:30 NEIGHBORHOOD COUNCIL AND SAFETY

19:31 COMMITTEES.

19:32 UH, SO I'VE DEVOTED MY CAREER

19:34 TO PUBLIC AND NONPROFIT UH

19:35 SERVICE STARTING WITH THE AG'S

19:37 OFFICE IN THE CIVIL RIGHTS

19:38 DIVISION, UH, THE CITY

19:40 OF BOSTON, UH, IN OWENS UH, YOU

19:43 KNOW, EVERYBODY GOTTA START

19:45 SOMEWHERE, RIGHT?

19:46 SO NEIGHBORHOOD SERVICES, UH,

19:47 HUMAN RESOURCES AND BOSTON

19:49 REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY AND AND

19:51 HAVE BEEN IN UM COMMUNITY

19:53 HEALTH FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS,

19:54 UH, 20 PLUS YEARS.

19:55 AND SO ALL OF MY EXPERIENCES

19:57 HAVE BEEN IN CONSTITUENT

19:58 SERVICES COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT

19:59 AND UH, HAS ALL LED ME TO UH TO

20:03 THE TO THE ZBA AND AND MY

20:05 SERVICE THERE AND KIND OF THE

20:07 LENSES THAT I USE.

20:08 SO THANK YOU FOR THE TIME THANK

20:09 YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

20:10 UH, HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

20:12 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

20:13 UM, SHERRY JEAN PINATA.

20:18 UH, GOOD MORNING, COUNCILOR.

20:19 DURKAN AND CITY.

20:20 COUNCILORS FLYNN AND MURPHY.

20:22 UM, MY NAME IS JEAN PINERO.

20:24 I PROBABLY.

20:25 THE.

20:25 LONGEST SERVING MEMBER I WAS

20:27 APPOINTED IN 2020 TO THE ZONING

20:29 BOARD OF APPEAL.

20:30 UM.

20:31 AT THAT TIME I, UM, HAD JUST

20:33 RESIGNED FROM BEING CEO

20:34 OF MADISON PARK DEVELOPMENT

20:35 CORPORATION FOR 21 YEARS.

20:37 UM, WHERE WE WERE.

20:39 YOU KNOW, REALLY.

20:39 FOCUSED ON UH, DEVELOPING AND

20:42 PRESERVING AFFORDABLE HOUSING

20:43 AND DOING SOME COMMERCIAL

20:45 DEVELOPMENT IN IN NUBIAN

20:46 SQUARE.

20:47 UM, I APPEARED BEFORE THE ZBA

20:49 MANY TIMES IN THAT CAPACITY

20:51 OVER PROBABLY OVER A DOZEN

20:52 TIMES AS WE WERE DEVELOPING

20:55 PROJECTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

20:56 UM, I'VE LIVED IN JAMAICA

20:58 PLAIN.

20:58 FOR OVER.

20:59 35 YEARS AND RAISED A FAMILY.

21:01 I'M REALLY PROUD THAT MY

21:02 DAUGHTER MAIA GETER IS, UH,

21:03 WORKS IN THE EQUITY CABINET UM

21:06 .

21:06 AND IS.

21:07 REALLY ENJOYING HER WORK HERE

21:10 WITH THE CITY.

21:10 I DEFINITELY SEE THE

21:11 RESEMBLANCE.

21:13 UM, YOU KNOW, WE I KNOW ALL THE

21:15 OLDER PEOPLE.

21:15 SHE KNOWS ALL THE YOUNGER

21:16 PEOPLE IN CITY HALL.

21:18 UM, AND UM, YOU KNOW, I, UM I

21:21 REALLY ENJOY.

21:21 THIS WORK.

21:22 UM, I'VE BEEN.

21:23 INVOLVED IN OBVIOUSLY IN

21:25 DEVELOPMENT IN THE CITY FOR

21:26 MANY YEARS.

21:26 I NOW WORK AT COLLIERS WHICH.

21:28 IS.

21:28 COMMERCIAL REAL.

21:29 ESTATE FIRM DOING UH

21:31 ACQUISITION DOING UM UH SELLING

21:33 PROPERTY AND I'M YOU KNOW, ONE

21:36 OF THE PROPERTIES I.

21:36 SAW RECENTLY WAS IN MATTAPAN

21:38 SQUARE.

21:39 UM, AND IT WAS ACQUIRED BY A

21:41 DEVELOPER, UH, THE PRESERVATION

21:43 FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THEY

21:44 ARE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING

21:46 IN MATTAPAN.

21:47 SO IT'S NICE THAT MY NEW ROLE

21:49 AT COLLIERS, UM, BE ABLE TO

21:50 BRING IN THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING

21:52 DEVELOPERS INTO THAT WORLD AND

21:54 ACQUIRING PROPERTIES FOR FOR

21:56 THAT PURPOSE.

21:57 UM, I REALLY ENJOY THE WORK.

21:59 UM IT'S REALLY INTERESTING.

22:01 UM, WE ALL WORK REALLY HARD AND

22:02 SPEND TIME LOOKING AT ALL THE

22:04 CASES.

22:04 THEY ARE VERY UNIQUE UM AND

22:06 LISTENING TO TESTIMONY AND UM,

22:08 I THANK YOU FOR FOR THE

22:10 REAPPOINTMENT AND UH, FOR YOUR

22:13 INTEREST IN WHAT WE DO.

22:15 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

22:16 UM, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

22:17 DAVID COLLINS.

22:20 I'M SORRY.

22:21 SHE NEEDS A MIC.

22:22 YEAH.

22:23 OH, YEAH.

22:24 YOU DON'T NEED TO TOUCH IT.

22:25 YEAH.

22:25 YOU'RE ON NOW ON.

22:26 YES.

22:27 GOOD MORNING.

22:27 COUNCILORS.

22:28 UM, DAVID COLLINS, LIFELONG

22:31 BOSTON RESIDENT FROM

22:33 ROSLINDALE.

22:33 I'M CURRENTLY RAISING A FAMILY

22:35 IN WEST ROXBURY.

22:36 UM, I'VE BEEN ON THE ZONING

22:38 BOARD OF APPEAL NOW FOR THREE

22:41 YEARS AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER

22:42 SEEKING REAPPOINTMENT.

22:44 UM, BACKGROUND AND ZONING AND

22:47 PERMITTING I PARTICIPATE IN

22:49 SMALLER SIZE DEVELOPMENTS TEN

22:51 UNITS AND UNDER UM IN THE

22:53 ROSLINDALE, WEST ROXBURY AND

22:54 HYDE PARK AREA.

22:55 SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE

22:56 NUANCES OF BOSTON PERMANENT.

23:00 THANK YOU.

23:00 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

23:01 UM AND I HAVE A STATEMENT UM,

23:03 THAT I'M GOING TO READ FROM ONE

23:05 OF OUR APPOINTEES.

23:07 UM, THAT IS BEFORE OUR

23:08 COMMITTEE.

23:09 I'M JUST MAKING SURE.

23:11 YES.

23:11 SHE'S A REAPPOINTMENT.

23:13 UM, DEAR BOSTON CITY COUNCIL, I

23:15 REGRET THAT I AM NOT ABLE TO

23:16 MAKE THIS HEARING ON

23:18 OCTOBER 16TH, 2026.

23:19 UNFORTUNATELY I DID DEATH AND

23:20 MY FAMILY AND THE SERVICES ARE

23:23 HELD THE SAME DAY IN RICHMOND,

23:24 VIRGINIA.

23:25 I APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO

23:26 MAKE A STATEMENT ON MY BEHALF

23:28 IN THIS MANNER.

23:28 IN THE PAST TWO YEARS IT HAS

23:30 BEEN MY PLEASURE TO SERVE AS A

23:31 MEMBER OF THE CITY OF BOSTON

23:32 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS AS A

23:34 BOSTON RESIDENT, HOMEOWNER AND

23:35 CARD CARRYING UNIONS SHEET

23:38 METAL WORKER I HAVE BEEN AT THE

23:40 CENTER OF A COMPLICATED

23:41 INTERSECTION OF HOW THINGS GET

23:42 BUILT IN THE CITY.

23:43 I ENJOY LOOKING AT THE FACTS

23:45 AND CONSIDERING THE REAL LIFE

23:46 IMPACTS OF MY VOTES.

23:48 I HOPE THAT I HAVE BEEN A

23:49 POSITIVE PRESENCE ON THE ZBA.

23:51 MY MAIN CONCERN IS UM MY MAIN

23:54 CONCERN HAS BEEN MAKING SURE

23:56 THAT RESIDENTS ARE HEARD UM

23:58 THAT WHAT'S BEING BUILT WILL

23:59 BEST SERVE THE COMMUNITY AT

24:00 LARGE AND THAT MORE HARDWORKING

24:02 CITIZENS ARE ABLE TO BENEFIT

24:04 FROM THE JOBS CREATED.

24:05 THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING

24:06 ME THE CHANCE TO BE ON THE ZBA

24:08 IF YOU HAVE ANY FURTHER

24:10 QUESTIONS FOR ME I WOULD BE

24:11 HAPPY TO UM APPEAR BEFORE THE.

24:13 CITY COUNCIL AT ANOTHER DATE.

24:15 REGARDS AND A LOT OF US KNOW

24:17 HER SOMAYA TURNER HI PARKER A

24:18 HOMEOWNER AND RESIDENT UM,

24:19 SHE'S ACTUALLY COME BEFORE OUR

24:21 COMMITTEE BEFORE UM, SO UM,

24:24 GIVEN THAT SHE HAS HAD A DEATH

24:25 IN THE FAMILY, I PLAN TO MOVE

24:26 HER NOMINATION FORWARD AGAIN.

24:28 UH, SHE SERVES WITH A LOT

24:30 OF DISTINCTION AND WE'RE REALLY

24:31 GRATEFUL FOR, UM, SORRY.

24:32 WE'RE REALLY GRATEFUL FOR THEIR

24:34 ,UM, THEIR WORK AND, UH, ALL

24:37 THAT THEY DO.

24:38 SO, UM, NOW WE'RE GOING TO OPEN

24:40 UM, UP UH, THIS PANEL TO

24:44 QUESTIONS UM, AND IN NO

24:47 PARTICULAR YOU KNOW, I WOULD

24:48 JUST LIKE ANYONE WHO FEELS

24:49 MOVED TO ANSWER THIS PARTICULAR

24:51 QUESTION, UM, TO ANSWER THIS

24:55 QUESTION, UM, AND I'VE ASKED

24:57 THIS.

24:58 QUESTION THESE ARE.

24:58 THE QUESTIONS THAT I'VE

24:59 ASKED UM, BASICALLY ALL OF THE

25:01 ZBA NOMINATIONS SINCE UM SINCE

25:04 I HAVE GOTTEN THIS COMMITTEE UM

25:07 ,HOW WOULD YOU APPROACH ZONING

25:09 VARIANCE DECISIONS AND HIGH

25:11 OPPORTUNITY NEIGHBORHOODS

25:12 VERSUS THOSE THAT HAVE

25:13 TYPICALLY EXPERIENCED

25:15 DISINVESTMENT?

25:15 WHAT ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT

25:16 YOU WOULD APPROVE OR DISAPPROVE

25:18 APPEALS FOR ZONING RELIEF THAT

25:19 COME BEFORE THE BOARD.

25:21 ?

25:21 JUST IF ANYONE.

25:22 FEELS MOVED TO ANSWER THOSE TWO

25:25 QUESTIONS.

25:29 MADAM CHAIR.

25:34 WELL, UH.

25:36 I MEAN FOR ME, I, I LOOK AT

25:38 EACH CASE CASE BY CASE SO I'M

25:40 NOT I DON'T HAVE LIKE A CAN

25:42 ANSWER FOR YOU UM, BECAUSE UH,

25:44 YOU KNOW, EVERY CASE IS UNIQUE

25:46 AND BRINGS DIFFERENT CHALLENGES

25:47 AND OPPORTUNITIES TO IT SO I

25:48 THAT'S THAT'S HOW I WOULD

25:50 APPROACH IT WITH AN OPEN MIND.

25:52 SO IT'S IN YOUR OPINION IT'S

25:53 NOT NEIGHBORHOOD BY

25:54 NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE IN TERMS

25:56 OF LIKE OPPORTUNITIES FOR

25:58 INVESTING IN CERTAIN

25:59 NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH CERTAIN

26:00 PROJECTS.

26:00 I MEAN.

26:01 WE CERTAINLY HAVE GUIDANCE UH,

26:03 FROM FROM THE FROM PLANNING UH,

26:05 RIGHT THERE YOU KNOW, UH,

26:07 DIFFERENT STREETS.

26:07 AND SQUARES AND.

26:09 UH OTHER OTHER INITIATIVES THAT

26:10 HELP HELP GUIDE US.

26:11 SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE INFORMED BY

26:12 THOSE AS WELL.

26:14 OKAY.

26:14 ANYONE ELSE WANT TO ANSWER.

26:15 EITHER THOSE GOING ADD I THINK

26:17 IT'S REALLY DEPENDENT ON THE

26:18 SPECIFIC ZONING RELIEF THEY ARE

26:20 SEEKING AND OTHER FACTORS.

26:23 YOU KNOW I ALWAYS LOOK AT THE

26:24 CONTEXT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO

26:25 MAKE SURE IT'S YOU KNOW, SORT

26:27 OF APPROPRIATE FOR THE

26:28 NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE UM, PUBLIC

26:31 COMMENT THAT WE RECEIVE AS WELL

26:32 AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE

26:34 ALSO GET.

26:36 YEAH, I WOULD JUST ADD.

26:37 IT IN.

26:38 IF HIGH OPPORTUNITY

26:39 NEIGHBORHOODS MEAN SORT

26:40 OF DOWNTOWN OR BACK BAY, THOSE

26:43 PROJECTS TYPICALLY ARE LARGE

26:44 PROJECTS THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH

26:46 ARTICLE 80 PROCESS THROUGH THE

26:48 PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

26:49 AND SO UM ZONING IS SORT OF THE

26:52 LAST STOP BUT THEY'VE ALREADY

26:53 GONE THROUGH A VERY UH LENGTHY

26:55 AND AND UH, THOUGHTFUL PUBLIC

26:58 PROCESS.

26:59 UM AND WE LOOK AT THE VARIANCE

27:01 BUT THEY'VE YOU KNOW, PRETTY

27:02 MUCH THE CITY HAS DONE AND THE

27:04 NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS TYPICALLY

27:06 HAVE ALREADY WEIGHED IN ON

27:07 THOSE DECISIONS.

27:08 THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE THAT

27:09 ACTUALLY LENDS TO MY LAST

27:11 QUESTION, WHICH IS HOW.

27:12 SHOULD THE ZBA.

27:13 WEIGH DECISIONS ON PROJECTS

27:14 THAT HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED BPA

27:16 BOARD APPROVAL?

27:17 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT.

27:18 ZBA MEMBERS SHOULD EVER VOTE ON

27:19 A PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN VETTED

27:21 AND APPROVED OR VOTE AGAINST A

27:22 PROJECT THAT HAS BEEN VETTED

27:23 AND APPROVED BY THE PLANNING

27:25 DEPARTMENT AND BOARD AND IF SO,

27:26 UNDER WHAT CIRCUMSTANCES?

27:28 I KNOW THERE ARE A COUPLE

27:29 OF EXAMPLES OF THIS.

27:30 THAT'S WHY I'M BRINGING THIS

27:31 UP.

27:32 .

27:33 SOMEBODY ELSE CAN YOU

27:34 CONSIDER.

27:35 ME WHEN I THINK OH I'M.

27:36 HAPPY TO HAVE YOU START.

27:38 CONSIDER I THINK FOR US IT'S

27:40 VERY IMPORTANT TO RECEIVE THE

27:41 UM.

27:45 DOCUMENTS FROM THE PLANNING

27:46 DEPARTMENT SO WE CAN SEE AND

27:48 READ ABOUT THE PROCESS.

27:49 SOME PROJECTS HAVE SIX MONTHS

27:51 ONE YEAR, TWO OR 3 OR 4 YEARS

27:53 OF PROCESS AND FOR US IS VERY

27:54 IMPORTANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED

27:56 FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

27:58 ARTICLE 30 PROJECTS ARE

27:59 APPROVED WHEN THEY COME TO A

28:01 ZONING BOARD.

28:02 NOW THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

28:03 PROVIDES A RECOMMENDATION FOR

28:05 ALMOST EVERY PROJECT THAT WE

28:07 SEE FOR ALMOST EVERY CASE.

28:10 UM THE DIFFERENCE I GUESS AND I

28:12 THINK IS THAT FOR US WE HAVE

28:14 OPEN HEARINGS SO WE CAN HAVE

28:16 MORE PEOPLE ATTENDING

28:18 PRESENTING TESTIMONY AND WE

28:20 HEAR SOMETIMES COMMENTS THAT

28:22 REALLY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE

28:24 NOT ABLE TO PRESENT AT THE

28:26 PLANNING DEPARTMENT, UH,

28:27 HEARINGS.

28:29 SO WE HAVE UM BY THE TIME THOSE

28:31 CASES COME TO OUR BOARD, THOSE

28:33 THOSE PROJECTS ARE MOST LIKELY

28:35 READY TO BE APPROVED.

28:37 BUT ALWAYS IT'S USEFUL FOR US

28:39 TO HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY AND

28:40 HAVE MORE TIME TO REVIEW THOSE

28:42 DOCUMENTS FROM THE PLANNING

28:43 DEPARTMENT, TRANSPORTATION

28:44 DISABILITIES COMMUNITIES AND

28:45 GIVE A SECOND A LOOK BEFORE WE

28:47 UPLOAD.

28:48 THANK YOU.

28:49 GIOVANNI.

28:49 I JUST WANT TO ADD A LITTLE

28:51 COMMENT AND TO.

28:52 THAT I THINK UH EVERY

28:54 NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD BE TREATED

28:55 EQUALLY.

28:56 AND I FEEL.

28:57 YOU KNOW, LISTENING TO THE

28:59 ABUTTERS WHAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD

29:01 WANT AND EVEN IF THEY APPROVE A

29:05 PROJECT.

29:07 SOMETIMES FOR.

29:08 ME IF IT IF IT'S NOT WHAT THE

29:10 NEIGHBORHOOD WANT, I MIGHT HAVE

29:12 TO GO AGAINST THAT JUDGMENT AND

29:14 DENY THAT PROJECT AND BECAUSE.

29:17 MY MY THING.

29:18 OF IT IS THAT.

29:19 IT'S SO MUCH.

29:20 BUILDINGS GOING UP IN BOSTON

29:22 THAT A LOT OF.

29:24 THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES.

29:25 SOMETIMES GET MISSED.

29:27 YOU KNOW YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, I

29:29 HAD A FRIEND BEFORE WANTED TO

29:30 PUT UP A BUILDING AND UH, HE

29:32 COULDN'T.

29:33 DO IT BECAUSE.

29:34 HE DIDN'T HAVE THE REQUIREMENTS

29:35 AND HE DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO DO

29:36 IT.

29:37 SO LIKE I SAID FOR MYSELF IF

29:39 IT'S A PROJECT.

29:41 THAT I DON'T THAT I THINK THAT

29:42 THE COMMUNITY NEEDS OR THAT

29:44 ABUT IT NEEDS.

29:46 I NORMALLY WOULD VOTE YES.

29:47 THANK YOU.

29:49 UM I KNOW IT CAN FEEL.

29:49 LIKE A.

29:50 LOT OF BUILDINGS ARE GOING

29:51 UP IN BOSTON BUT YOU KNOW BASED

29:53 ON OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR AND

29:55 BASED ON UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORIC

29:57 LOW IN TERMS OF PERMITS, WE'RE

29:59 APPROVING A LOT OF PROJECTS,

30:00 YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW AND YOU

30:02 GUYS ARE REVIEWING A LOT

30:03 OF PROJECTS BUT THOSE PROJECTS

30:05 AREN'T ALWAYS COMING TO

30:06 FRUITION.

30:07 SO ACKNOWLEDGING THAT UM, I

30:09 GUESS FOR ME AS A CITY

30:11 COUNCILOR, ONE THING THAT I

30:13 HAVE BEEN.

30:14 EVER.

30:15 YOU KNOW, CONCERNED ABOUT IS

30:17 THE IDEA OF MOVING THE PROCESS

30:20 ,MOVING THE GOALPOSTS FROM

30:22 GETTING BPA BOARD APPROVAL TO

30:25 GETTING ZBA APPROVAL.

30:26 I FIND THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE

30:27 THAT OPPOSE PROJECTS WILL TRY

30:30 TO SET THEIR SIGHTS ON THE NEXT

30:32 MEETING THAT IS HAPPENING,

30:33 WHICH IS THE ZBA UM AND OFTEN I

30:36 THINK IN ORDER TO LEVEL.

30:39 SET WITH RESIDENTS IT'S

30:40 IMPORTANT TO SHARE THAT LIKE AS

30:41 A CITY COUNCILOR IF IF

30:43 SOMETHING HAS GONE THROUGH THE

30:44 BPA BOARD I PERSONALLY DON'T

30:46 THINK IT'S RIGHT TO OPPOSE IT

30:49 AT ZBA UM UNLESS THERE IS

30:51 SOMETHING THAT WAS MISSED LIKE

30:52 YOU WERE SAYING AND THE PROCESS

30:54 WHICH IS VERY RARE.

30:56 UM SO JUST MY OPINION AS

30:59 SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO MOVE

31:00 YOUR NOMINATIONS FORWARD IS

31:01 THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

31:03 SHOULD.

31:03 ESSENTIALLY THAT UH, BPA BOARD

31:06 APPROVAL SHOULD MOSTLY

31:07 ENCOMPASS, YOU KNOW, ALL

31:10 OF BECAUSE IT REALLY THE BPA

31:11 BOARD APPROVAL IS SUPPOSED TO

31:13 UM, HAVE BASICALLY ALL OF THE

31:15 CITY DEPARTMENTS HAVE ALREADY

31:17 WEIGHED IN SO IT SOMETHING HAS

31:19 GONE VERY WRONG IF.

31:20 LIKE IF YOU KNOW IF ESSENTIALLY

31:23 PEOPLE ARE OPPOSING IT ONCE

31:24 IT'S GOING AND THAT'S JUST MY

31:26 OPINION AND IT'S MY ONE CHANCE

31:27 TO TELL YOU.

31:28 THAT SO SO I WILL TAKE MY ONE

31:30 CHANCE TO SAY THAT I PERSONALLY

31:32 WOULD PREFER THAT THE GOAL POST

31:35 FOR FOLKS OPPOSING A PROJECT

31:36 NOT BE MOVED TO THE ZBA AND I

31:38 FIND THAT WITH UM, ALMOST EVERY

31:41 CASE THAT.

31:42 THERE IS A.

31:44 BPA BOARD.

31:45 APPROVAL AND THEN IT GOES TO

31:46 ZBA AND THERE'S.

31:47 CRAZY DISCUSSION ABOUT WHETHER

31:49 IT SHOULD.

31:49 BE.

31:50 APPROVED THAT.

31:51 ACTUALLY MOVES THE GOALPOSTS

31:52 FOR US AS ELECTED OFFICIALS

31:54 BECAUSE MOST OF THE TIME WHEN

31:55 YOU'VE GOTTEN BPA BOARD.

31:57 APPROVAL.

31:57 EVERY DEPARTMENT AT THE CITY

31:59 HAS WEIGHED IN.

32:00 YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE TO THE

32:01 SCOPING SESSION, WE'VE DONE ALL

32:03 OF THIS.

32:03 UM, AND THERE ARE A LOT.

32:05 OF PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE

32:06 HORIZON FOR PERMITTING.

32:08 BUT UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF A

32:11 LOT GOING ON IN BOSTON RIGHT

32:12 NOW, I THINK WE'RE MOSTLY

32:14 TALKING ABOUT BOSTON WATER AND

32:15 SEWER WORK AND UM, AND

32:18 DEFINITELY YOU KNOW, THERE'S A

32:19 LOT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON

32:20 BUT IT'S DEFINITELY NOT HOUSING

32:22 AND WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT.

32:24 AND I THINK THAT THE ZBA HAS A

32:25 ROLE TO.

32:26 PLAY IN MAKING SURE THAT THERE

32:27 IS ENOUGH HOUSING FOR OUR

32:28 RESIDENTS AND THAT WE'RE

32:29 LOWERING THE COST OF HOUSING IN

32:30 OUR CITY.

32:31 AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M

32:32 EXTREMELY AND I MY COLLEAGUES

32:34 KNOW I'M EXTREMELY PASSIONATE.

32:35 ABOUT.

32:36 THIS BECAUSE AS SOMEONE WHO

32:37 MOVED HERE 11 YEARS AGO, UM, IT

32:40 HAS BEEN A STRUGGLE TO AFFORD

32:42 RENT AND UM, I FEEL REALLY

32:45 LUCKY TO BE IN THIS POSITION

32:46 AND BOSTON HAS GIVEN

32:48 ME EVERYTHING BUT I WANT TO

32:49 MAKE SURE THE NEXT PERSON WHO

32:50 MOVES HERE AS A YOUNG PERSON IS

32:52 ABLE TO STAY HERE.

32:53 AND I THINK THAT YOU ALL HAVE A

32:56 REAL ROLE TO PLAY IN MAKING

32:57 SURE THAT UM THAT WE'RE WE

32:59 MIGHT BE IN A PERMITTING FREEZE

33:01 WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COST AND

33:02 INTEREST RATES AND JUST SORT

33:04 OF THE COST OF EVERYTHING RIGHT

33:05 NOW.

33:06 BUT IT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO

33:07 ME THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT

33:10 UM, AT LEAST FROM MY

33:12 PERSPECTIVE THAT YOU HAVE AN

33:13 IMPORTANT ROLE TO PLAY BUT

33:14 ESPECIALLY ON THESE BIG

33:15 PROJECTS, UM, THAT WE'RE

33:17 LETTING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT

33:19 AND PEOPLE WHO DO PLANNING AND

33:20 KATIE KNOWS THIS BECAUSE SHE

33:22 DOES THIS IN ANOTHER CITY.

33:23 SO, UM SO GRATEFUL.

33:25 TO YOU ALL.

33:25 FOR BEING HERE.

33:26 I'M GOING TO LET MY COLLEAGUES

33:27 ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY

33:28 HAVE STARTING WITH

33:30 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

33:32 UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PERSONAL

33:36 INTRODUCTIONS.

33:38 IT JUST REASSURES.

33:39 ME EVEN MORE BASED OFF.

33:41 OF YOUR RESUMES THAT YOU'RE.

33:42 ALL WELL SUITED FOR THIS

33:43 POSITION, THE WORK YOU'VE DONE

33:44 .

33:45 UH, JUST A FEW QUESTIONS.

33:47 UM, AS YOU KNOW AND AS THE

33:51 MEMBERS YOURSELF, YOU PROBABLY

33:52 GET THE SAME QUESTIONS WE GET

33:53 AS ELECTED OFFICIALS HOW YOU

33:55 KNOW, COMMUNITIES OFTEN FEEL.

33:58 AND YOU.

33:58 WHEN YOU MENTIONED YOU'VE

33:59 BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR SIX YEARS

34:00 THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT

34:02 AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOOD

34:04 ASSOCIATIONS COMING FORWARD AND

34:06 EVEN.

34:07 IF THEY ALL OPPOSE OR.

34:08 APPROVE A PROJECT AND ALSO THE

34:11 MAYOR'S OFFICE, IT'S DEFINITELY

34:13 HAS BEEN A SHIFT FROM A ONE

34:14 THAT'S NOT REALLY WEIGHING IN

34:16 JUST, YOU KNOW.

34:17 SAYING THE PROCESS HAPPENED

34:19 MAYBE.

34:19 YOU KNOW.

34:21 REFERRING TO THE ABUTTERS

34:23 MEETINGS, UM, THE OUTREACH THAT

34:24 MAY HAVE.

34:25 OCCURRED OR.

34:26 SHARING OUT HOW MANY LETTERS

34:28 THEY MAY HAVE RECEIVED BUT THEY

34:29 NEVER REALLY GIVE THEIR OWN

34:31 OPINION.

34:32 HOW DO YOU HOW IS THAT.

34:34 SHIFTED OR DO YOU FEEL THERE'S

34:35 THAT HAS CHANGED ANY WAY THAT

34:37 YOUR BOARD MOVES FORWARD.

34:38 WITH YOUR APPROVAL OR

34:41 DISAPPROVAL OF PROJECTS?

34:43 I MEAN.

34:44 I THINK OTHER THAN JENNY

34:45 JEAN AND MYSELF I DON'T THINK

34:46 ANYONE'S EXPERIENCED ANYTHING

34:48 DIFFERENT THERE.

34:49 UH I MEAN I USED TO BE AN OWNER

34:51 SO I CERTAINLY EXPERIENCED THE

34:52 FACT THAT WE WE AND OWNERS TOOK

34:54 POSITIONS SO THAT THAT

34:55 CERTAINLY IS UH, DIFFERENT BUT

34:58 I, I DON'T THINK ANYONE KNOWS

34:59 ANYTHING UH, A DIFFERENT WAY

35:01 OF SEEING THINGS SO I MEAN WE

35:02 WE TAKE WHAT WE GET AND WE UH

35:04 AND WE WE INCORPORATE ALL

35:06 OF THAT INTO OUR INTO OUR

35:07 DECISION MAKING.

35:08 YOU KNOW, THE COMMUNITY PROCESS

35:09 IS REALLY IMPORTANT.

35:10 LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND

35:11 ABUTTERS IN PARTICULAR ARE

35:12 REALLY IMPORTANT.

35:13 UH, AND AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW,

35:15 UH.

35:15 PLANNING.

35:16 DEPARTMENT I-S-D LIKE YOU KNOW

35:17 SO IT ALL CONTRIBUTES AND SO

35:18 UH, I KNOW FOR ME FOR ME IT'S A

35:20 LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE I'M

35:21 USED TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT

35:22 I THINK FOR EVERYONE ELSE

35:23 THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'VE COME

35:25 TO EXPECT.

35:26 YEAH I WOULD.

35:27 SAY THE THING THAT'S CHANGED

35:28 THE MOST IS THE AMOUNT

35:30 OF INFORMATION WE GET FROM THE

35:32 PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

35:33 IN FACT, I WENT TO UM ONE

35:35 OF THE PLANNING CHIEF PLANNERS

35:37 ABOUT EIGHT FIVE YEARS AGO AND

35:39 SAID YOU KNOW WHAT WE GET FROM

35:41 THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT BACK

35:42 THEN IT WAS THE THE BPA IS

35:45 BASICALLY THE AGENDA AND A LIST

35:47 OF THE VARIANCES.

35:48 AND I SAID I THINK YOU GUYS CAN

35:51 DO BETTER AT EXPLAINING LIKE

35:53 YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND NOW WE

35:54 GET THREE PAGES FOR EACH

35:56 PROJECT AND IT'S A 100 PAGE

35:58 DOCUMENT.

35:59 UM BUT THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN FOR

36:01 WHEN I FIRST JOINED.

36:03 IT WAS REALLY JUST WE GOT YOU

36:04 KNOW, THE AGENDA.

36:06 UM, AND I THINK THE CITY HAS

36:08 DONE A LOT OF REALLY GOOD WORK

36:10 EXPLAINING THE RATIONALE,

36:12 EXPLAINING THE VARIANCES,

36:13 EXPLAINING WHAT THEY SEE ON THE

36:15 BLOCK, UM, AND WHY THE THE

36:18 CODE DOESN'T REALLY MATCH THE

36:20 BUILT ENVIRONMENT.

36:21 AND SO UH I THINK THAT'S BEEN

36:24 THE BIGGEST SHIFT AND IT'S BEEN

36:25 QUITE HELPFUL.

36:26 THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THAT

36:28 INFORMATION BUT ALSO IT'S NOT

36:30 THAT YOU HAVE TO RUBBER STAMP

36:31 IT BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE THE

36:33 PROCESSES AND THE STEPS ALONG

36:34 THE WAY TO GET THE FINAL

36:36 APPROVAL ARE THERE FOR ALL GOOD

36:37 REASONS.

36:38 SO I APPRECIATE THAT YOU KNOW,

36:39 YOU'RE AT THE END OF THAT STEP

36:41 IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK.

36:42 QUICKLY ON.

36:44 IF A PROJECT ISN'T PASSED AND

36:46 LIKE I SAID I DON'T.

36:47 ALWAYS AGREE BUT I DO.

36:48 RESPECT THAT THE BOARD AND

36:50 THERE WAS MORE THAN JUST ONE

36:51 VOTE WHICH I APPRECIATE THAT.

36:53 WHAT IS THE UM DEVELOPERS

36:55 BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE THERE IS

36:56 A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BIGGER

36:58 PROJECTS AND THEN HERE A LOT

36:59 YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE HOMEOWNERS

37:01 WHO JUST WANT TO LIKE ADD.

37:02 A.

37:03 BATHROOM SO THAT THEIR MOTHER

37:05 CAN MOVE IN AND LIVE ON THE

37:07 FIRST FLOOR COMFORTABLY AND IT

37:08 COULD BE FOUR MONTHS BEFORE

37:10 IT'S, YOU KNOW, THE APPROVAL

37:11 WITH THE ESD BECAUSE THEY HAVE

37:13 TO GO THROUGH ZONING.

37:14 IF YOU COULD JUST UM, SPEAK TO

37:17 EVEN JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE ALL

37:18 RESIDENTS AND FEEL LIKE.

37:19 KIND OF.

37:19 THAT BALANCE BETWEEN YOUR

37:20 ROLE OF ON ZBA BUT I UNDERSTAND

37:22 THE FRUSTRATION WHERE SOME

37:23 OF THESE.

37:24 OBVIOUSLY THERE MAY.

37:25 BE A VARIANCE BUT WE'RE NOT

37:26 LIKE CHANGING THE FABRIC OF A

37:27 NEIGHBORHOOD.

37:28 WE'RE JUST KIND OF CHANGING A

37:29 SMALL THING INSIDE A HOME.

37:31 BUT IT DOES, YOU KNOW, NEED TO

37:33 GO BEFORE YOUR BOARD.

37:37 OKAY I CAN'T OKAY.

37:39 THANK YOU.

37:40 UM COUNCILOR MURPHY I AGREE

37:42 I AGREE WITH YOU IN WHAT YOU

37:45 WERE MENTIONING ABOUT SOME

37:46 CASES I UNDERSTAND THAT WE

37:49 SPENT A LOT OF TIME THROUGH IN

37:51 DOCUMENTS FOR BIG DEVELOPMENT

37:53 THAT ARE GOING TO CHANGE AND

37:55 HOPEFULLY IMPROVE THE CITY, BUT

37:59 SOMETIMES THERE ARE VERY SMALL

38:00 CASES THAT I'M WONDERING WHY WE

38:01 ARE SPENDING THAT CONSTITUENTS

38:03 TIME IN OUR TIME REVIEWING IS

38:06 MORE DETAILS FOR THAT REASON WE

38:07 HAVE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON

38:09 THURSDAY IS THE REVIEW OF SOME

38:10 OF THOSE SMALLER PROJECTS AND I

38:12 THINK THE CITY'S WORKING HARD

38:14 AND IS IS WORKING HARD TO

38:15 ENSURE THAT THEY REDUCE THE

38:17 PAPERWORK IN THE STEPS,

38:19 ESPECIALLY FOR SMALL PROJECTS.

38:22 I UH SOME RESINS ARE TRYING TO

38:24 BUILD ABUS ACCESSORY DWELLING

38:26 UNITS IN BOSTON AND THAT IS

38:28 SUPPOSED TO.

38:28 BE A FAST PROJECT.

38:30 I KNOW THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT

38:32 FOR MANY OF US AND THE CITY IS

38:35 WORKING HARD TO IMPROVE THE

38:36 STEPS SO IT SEEMS IT GETS

38:38 EASIER.

38:39 BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME

38:41 OF THOSE UM UH PROJECT OWNERS

38:44 ARE FRUSTRATED BECAUSE THAT HAS

38:46 BEEN TAKING SO MUCH TIME FOR

38:47 SOMETHING THAT IS SUPPOSED TO

38:48 BE EASY.

38:49 THE CITY'S MOVING IN THE RIGHT

38:51 DIRECTION, I THINK I HOPE THAT

38:53 UH AT SOME TIME WE JUST FOCUS

38:56 ON PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO

38:57 REALLY IMPACT THE ENTIRE CITY.

39:00 BUT UNTIL THEN WE ARE HAPPY TO

39:01 REVIEW EVERYTHING THAT COMES TO

39:03 US.

39:03 YEAH.

39:04 I THINK IS UH, CHAIR DURKAN

39:05 SAID AT THE BEGINNING WE HAVE

39:07 AMONG THE MOST COMPLICATED AND

39:09 CODE LIKE THICK THICK ZONING

39:11 CODES.

39:11 AND SO UH, YOU KNOW, WE SEE

39:13 WHAT'S BEFORE US WHERE WE'RE

39:15 WE'RE NOT THE ONES CHANGING THE

39:17 CODE, BUT I YOU KNOW, THAT'S A

39:19 PROCESS THAT'S UNDERWAY THAT

39:20 UH, WITH BPD THAT HOPEFULLY UH

39:23 ,WILL STREAMLINE THINGS.

39:24 YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING A LOT

39:25 YOU KNOW, PLAN DOWNTOWN PLAN

39:27 YOU KNOW, MATTAPAN PLAN THAT

39:29 THAT ARE INTENDED TO SIMPLIFY

39:31 CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT YOU'RE

39:32 DESCRIBING THAT SHOULD NOT COME

39:34 BEFORE US AT ALL.

39:35 UH, AND AND SHOULD JUST BE AS

39:37 OF RIGHT.

39:37 AND SO I THINK THAT PROCESS

39:38 NEEDS TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD TO

39:40 TO HELP US SEE THE CASES THAT

39:41 REALLY, REALLY NEED SOME SORT

39:43 OF UH, EXTRA EYE ON IT.

39:45 AND THANK THANK YOU.

39:47 UM, I'LL ADD THAT IN MY FULL

39:49 TIME JOB I'M MUCH MORE FACE TO

39:50 FACE WITH RESIDENTS.

39:51 SO I DO HEAR OF THOSE STRUGGLES

39:54 TO GET AN ADU PERMITTED TO DO A

39:56 SIMPLE ADDITION.

39:57 UM, SO I DO TRY TO TAKE THAT

40:00 EXPERIENCE WITH ME TO THE BOARD

40:01 BUT I DO THINK AS MY COLLEAGUES

40:04 HAVE NOTED, YOU KNOW WHAT'S IN

40:05 THE ZONING DOESN'T ALWAYS MATCH

40:07 WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.

40:08 SO YOU KNOW AND EVEN THE WAY

40:10 THINGS ARE COUNTED LIKE TO

40:11 FINISH A BASEMENT WILL OFTEN

40:13 TRIGGER FLOOR AREA RATIO.

40:15 SO I THINK KIND OF THE ZONING

40:17 REFORM PIECE IS ALSO REALLY

40:19 KIND OF IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER.

40:21 THANK YOU.

40:23 UM THANK YOU.

40:23 CHAIR THANK YOU.

40:24 AND I'M.

40:25 LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING.

40:26 SUPPORTING ALL OF YOU AND

40:28 SOMETIMES I SEE YOU ON.

40:29 THE.

40:30 ZOOM HOPEFULLY ONE DAY WE'LL BE

40:31 BACK IN PERSON.

40:32 MAYBE YOU DON'T ALL WANT THAT

40:33 BUT UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU

40:35 DO.

40:36 THANK YOU SO MUCH,

40:38 COUNCILOR MURPHY,

40:38 COUNCILOR FLYNN AND, UM, JUST

40:40 SO YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN PUTTING

40:41 TIME UP BUT IT'S JUST A GUIDE

40:43 AND I'M NOT IT'S THERE'S NO

40:44 BEEP.

40:45 SO THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

40:47 AND AGAIN THANK YOU TO THE.

40:52 THE PEOPLE HERE THAT HAVE THAT

40:55 WILL BE ON THE BOARD UH SOON BE

40:57 ON THE BOARD UH THAT ARE ON THE

40:58 BOARD WANT TO SAY SAY THANK YOU

41:01 TO FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AGAIN

41:02 AND HELPING BUILD OUR CITY.

41:05 WE WE MAY DISAGREE ON I DO WANT

41:10 TO SEE THE ZBA GET BACK BACK IN

41:13 PERSON.

41:14 I DO LIKE WHEN PEOPLE ARE IN

41:16 CITY HALL.

41:17 I LOVE TO SEE PEOPLE IN CITY

41:19 HALL DOING THE JOB ENGAGING

41:22 WITH EACH OTHER.

41:23 I LOVE SEEING ARCHITECTS HERE.

41:24 I'VE I'VE SEEN UNION MEMBERS

41:26 HERE, NEIGHBORS HERE.

41:27 I LOVE THE DEBATE.

41:29 UM I LIKE GOING UP THERE AND

41:32 HEARING THE DISCUSSIONS HERE IN

41:35 THE ARGUMENTS HEARING THE

41:36 FIGHTS SAID I LOVE THAT UM BUT

41:39 IT ALSO IT ALSO SENDS A MESSAGE

41:42 TO THAT.

41:43 YOU KNOW.

41:45 WE WANT PEOPLE IN DOWNTOWN

41:46 BOSTON AND I, I ENCOURAGE I SEE

41:49 BUSINESS PEOPLE ALL THE TIME

41:50 AND I TELL THEM IT'S TIME FOR

41:52 YOU GUYS TO TO GET BACK TO

41:54 WORK.

41:54 I REPRESENT MOST OF THE

41:55 DOWNTOWN BOSTON.

41:56 I SAID WE YOU GUYS GOT TO GET

41:58 BACK TO WORK.

41:59 UM, FILL UP THOSE OFFICE

42:01 BUILDINGS SO WE CAN BUILD MORE.

42:02 I WANT TO SEE MORE BUILDINGS

42:03 GOING UP.

42:04 THERE'S A LOT A LOT

42:05 OF BUILDINGS THAT ARE PERMITTED

42:06 .

42:06 BUT I WANT TO SEE I WANT TO SEE

42:07 CRANES IN THE SKY.

42:08 THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SEE.

42:10 UM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY SEE

42:12 THAT, BUT I JUST THINK HAVING

42:15 PEOPLE BACK INTO WORK AT CITY

42:17 HALL VISITING THE COFFEE SHOPS

42:18 OR GOING OUT FOR LUNCH COMING

42:20 OFF A DINNER UM DOES SEND A

42:23 SIGNAL A CLEAR SIGNAL THAT

42:24 WE'RE OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

42:27 UM, I I READ THROUGH THE

42:30 RESUMES.

42:31 I LISTEN CLOSELY TO EVERY

42:33 PERSON HERE RESPECT THE WORK

42:36 YOU'RE DOING AND I THINK YOU'RE

42:38 ALL GOING TO CONTRIBUTE GREATLY

42:39 TO THE TO THE CITY AND I'M

42:43 GOING TO I'M GOING TO ASK A

42:45 COUPLE QUESTIONS AND I'M NOT

42:47 GOING TO CALL ALAN.

42:49 UM ALAN I'M GOING TO CALL HIM

42:50 COACH.

42:51 IS THAT ALL RIGHT?

42:52 YES, SIR.

42:52 OKAY OKAY OKAY.

42:54 UM AND RESPECT THE PASSION AND

42:58 YOUR COMMITMENT AND YOUR HARD

43:00 WORK THAT YOU HAVE DEMONSTRATED

43:03 ,UM, THROUGHOUT YOUR ENTIRE

43:04 LIFE.

43:05 SO WE WANT TO WELCOME YOU, ALAN

43:07 .

43:07 AND, UM, I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO

43:09 BE A TREMENDOUS, TREMENDOUS

43:10 ASSET TO THE TO THE ZONING

43:12 BOARD.

43:14 MAYBE MY QUESTION IS AND THIS

43:18 THIS CAN BE FOR OUR IT COULD BE

43:20 ALSO FOR EVERYBODY JUST HOW DO

43:21 YOU BALANCE.

43:23 HEARING FROM RESIDENTS HEARING

43:25 WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ECONOMY

43:27 RESIDENTS OWN ABUTTERS BUSINESS

43:29 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SEE

43:30 SOMETHING GO FORWARD UM THE THE

43:33 THE PROPONENT HOW DO YOU HOW DO

43:36 YOU BALANCE ALL OF THAT TO TO

43:38 COME TO A A DECISION THAT MAKES

43:40 THE BEST FOR THE CITY?

43:41 I THINK.

43:42 I THINK SOMETIMES UH A LOT

43:44 OF TIMES YOU KNOW, WE GET.

43:46 BLUEPRINTS, WE GET YOU KNOW,

43:47 THE.

43:48 INFORMATION WE NEED.

43:48 YOU KNOW, I LISTEN.

43:50 TO THE ABUTTERS I LISTEN TO.

43:52 I TAKE TIME OUT TO.

43:52 LISTEN YOU KNOW, EVEN MY KIDS.

43:54 I LISTEN TO EVERYBODY AND I

43:57 HAVE TO MAKE THE.

43:58 DECISION ON.

43:59 I THINK FOR ME IS WHAT'S GOOD

44:02 FOR THE CITY OR.

44:03 WHAT'S EVEN GOOD FOR THE.

44:05 UM, ABUTTERS YOU.

44:06 KNOW.

44:07 IT'S NOT IT'S NOT JUST.

44:08 ME MAKING THE DECISION.

44:10 I ALSO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, UH,

44:11 BEFORE I.

44:12 CAST MY DECISION IS WHAT'S GOOD

44:14 FOR THE CITY OF BOSTON.

44:16 NOT WHAT'S.

44:17 GOOD FOR.

44:17 ALLEN LANGHAM.

44:20 ANYONE ELSE?

44:21 UM, ANYONE ELSE WANT TO WEIGH

44:24 IN?

44:25 OR MAYBE I'LL JUST ASK.

44:27 UM, LET ME ASK.

44:30 LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

44:31 UH, TO JANE AND JANE RESPECT

44:33 THE WORK YOU'VE DONE AND I KNOW

44:34 YOU'VE YOU'VE BEEN THE LONGEST

44:36 MEMBER OF THE OF THE ZBA.

44:41 KNOWING THAT YOU'RE THE LONGEST

44:42 MEMBER.

44:43 WHAT WHAT TYPE OF MENTORSHIP OR

44:46 TYPE OF SUPPORT CAN YOU PROVIDE

44:49 SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS THAT

44:52 THAT MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT

44:54 OF UM, YOU KNOW, GUIDANCE AND

44:57 SUPPORT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS

44:58 ?

44:59 IS THIS SOMETHING UM, THAT YOU

45:01 AND SHERRY ARE THINKING ABOUT

45:04 AND ARE ABLE TO WORK ON?

45:06 YES, I THINK THERE HAVE BEEN.

45:09 A FEW SESSIONS UM, EVERY YEAR

45:13 WHERE WE CAN'T REALLY MEET WE

45:15 CAN'T MEET IN PERSON BECAUSE

45:17 OF OPEN MEETING LAWS.

45:18 WE CAN'T MEET TOGETHER.

45:19 WE CAN'T JUST CALL A MEETING

45:20 AND.

45:21 DO TRAINING.

45:21 BUT WE'VE ENCOURAGED I-S-D TO

45:23 HOLD TRAININGS FOR ALL THE

45:26 MEMBERS WHERE THEY KIND OF WALK

45:28 THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS

45:30 OF ZONING AND WE GET TO ASK

45:32 QUESTIONS AND THEY PRESENT SORT

45:33 OF INFORMATION AND I THINK MORE

45:35 OF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

45:37 UM, PARTICULARLY AS WE SORT

45:38 OF LOOK AT NEW TYPES OF ZONING

45:40 LIKE SQUARES AND STREETS AS A

45:42 WHOLE NEW ZONING CONSTRUCT IN

45:43 THE CODE.

45:45 UM, AND SO I THINK AND I THINK

45:47 ALSO THE NEW MEMBERS GET TO

45:49 HEAR OUR COMMENTS AND OUR

45:51 QUESTIONS AND SO REALLY TAKING

45:53 THE TIME TO LOOK AT THE PLANS

45:56 UH, YOU KNOW, READ THE

45:57 RECOMMENDATIONS, LOOK ON YOU

46:00 KNOW, WE SORT OF GO AND LOOK IN

46:01 THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND REALLY

46:02 GET TO YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE THAT

46:04 YOU CAN DO UM MAPQUEST AND ALL

46:06 THOSE THINGS THAT GET YOU TO

46:07 LOOK AT THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND

46:09 AND REALLY THINK ABOUT IT AND

46:11 WE SPEND YOU KNOW, I SPEND IT A

46:13 DAY BEFORE THE HEARINGS REALLY

46:14 LOOKING AT THE CASES, UM, AND

46:17 UNDERSTANDING THE CONTEXT

46:19 OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

46:20 AND I THINK OUR QUESTIONS HELP

46:22 GUIDE SOME OF THE NEW MEMBERS

46:24 UNDERSTANDING OF OF OUR

46:25 THINKING.

46:26 EXCELLENT.

46:27 YEAH.

46:28 AND YOU KNOW, UM, I MEAN I

46:29 WORK CLOSELY WITH THE

46:30 COMMISSIONER AND STAFF AND

46:31 CERTAINLY WHEN THERE ARE NEW

46:33 UH, THERE ARE INDIVIDUALS

46:35 CONSIDERING UH, PARTICIPATION

46:37 UH, AS A MEMBER, YOU KNOW, I'M

46:39 I MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE.

46:40 I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH UM, I

46:42 I'VE CHATTED WITH UH, SEVERAL

46:44 WHO, UH, ARE NOW BEFORE YOU AND

46:47 OR DECIDED NOT TO BECAUSE YOU

46:49 KNOW, THEY REALIZED OKAY, IT

46:50 MIGHT BE A BIT TOO HEAVY YOU

46:51 LIFT UH, I ALSO ENCOURAGE, UH,

46:54 WATCHING PAST, UM, HEARINGS.

46:56 I MEAN, THEY'RE ALL AVAILABLE

46:57 ONLINE AND YOU CAN SEE A WHOLE

46:59 ARRAY OF OF DECISION MAKING AND

47:02 PROCESS UH, THROUGH THAT AS

47:03 WELL.

47:03 AND AND LIKE JEAN SAID, I MEAN

47:04 JUST OBSERVING LIVE MEETINGS UH

47:06 ,YOU KNOW, AS THEY'RE

47:07 HAPPENING BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE

47:09 EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AND

47:10 OUR LIFE PROCESS.

47:11 THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

47:12 MAY I ASK ONE MORE QUESTION?

47:14 OF COURSE.

47:14 OKAY.

47:15 UM AND BEFORE I ASK A QUESTION

47:17 ,I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE

47:19 YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.

47:20 I THINK THEY'RE BROUGHT IN BY

47:22 COUNCILOR BRIAN WORRELL.

47:23 UM, POWELL CORSO, WE WANT TO

47:26 SAY THANK YOU TO THESE YOUNG

47:27 PEOPLE, YOUNG ADULTS FOR

47:29 OUTSTANDING LEADERSHIP IN THE

47:30 CITY AS WELL.

47:32 UM.

47:35 MY MY MY MY FINAL QUESTION, UM

47:39 ,WOULD BE MAYBE MAYBE TO

47:41 SHERRY OR TO JANE OR TO WHOEVER

47:43 WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER AND SHERRY

47:46 KNOWS THIS AS WELL AS I DO

47:48 PROBABLY THE ISSUE I FOCUS MOST

47:51 ON AS A CITY COUNCILOR IS

47:52 LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION

47:53 ACCESS.

47:54 I THINK IT'S CRITICAL, UM, IN

47:56 THIS CITY TO COMMUNICATE NOT

47:59 JUST IN ENGLISH BUT IN SO MANY

48:01 OTHER LANGUAGES.

48:03 I REPRESENT A LARGE CANTONESE

48:05 SPEAKING COMMUNITY, REPRESENT A

48:07 LARGE SPANISH SPEAKING

48:08 COMMUNITY AS WELL ON THE SOUTH.

48:09 AND UM, CAN YOU TALK TO

48:13 ME ABOUT AND THIS IS FOR ANYONE

48:16 THAT WANTS TO ANSWER CAN YOU

48:17 TALK TO ME ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT

48:18 LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION

48:19 ACCESS IS TO THE ZONING BOARD

48:22 OF APPEALS AND WHAT STEPS ARE

48:24 YOU TAKING TO ENSURE THAT

48:26 RESIDENTS THAT DON'T SPEAK

48:29 ENGLISH, UM, ARE ALSO INCLUDED

48:32 IN IN THE DISCUSSION AND THAT

48:33 THEIR VOICES IS HEARD AND

48:35 RESPECTED?

48:35 YEAH.

48:36 THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT

48:37 QUESTION.

48:38 UH, WE DON'T WE DON'T END UP

48:40 SEEING.

48:41 THAT MANY UM CASES WHERE WHERE

48:44 THE LANGUAGE PART IS NEEDED.

48:46 BUT WHEN WE DO IT'S IT'S

48:47 CRITICAL THAT IT'S THAT IT'S UM

48:50 APPROPRIATELY APPLIED.

48:51 RIGHT.

48:51 SO BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T

48:53 KNOW UNTIL THE CASES BEFORE US

48:55 THAT SOMEONE NEEDS, UH, NEEDS

48:57 AN INTERPRETER AND SO THE STAFF

48:59 DOES AND SO HOPEFULLY, YOU

49:00 KNOW, WE CAN COORDINATE ON THAT

49:01 FRONT.

49:02 I'VE SUGGESTED UH AND I DON'T

49:05 BE HONEST I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT

49:06 STANDS RIGHT NOW, BUT I'VE

49:07 SUGGESTED SIMULTANEOUS

49:09 TRANSLATION.

49:09 YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN

49:11 INTERPRETATION IS NEEDED

49:12 BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, UH, BEING

49:14 IN A LOT OF THOSE MEETINGS WHEN

49:15 IT IS NOT SIMULTANEOUS IT

49:18 STRETCHES THE MEETING OUT

49:19 IMMENSELY.

49:20 AND AS PEOPLE KNOW, THE VOLUME

49:21 OF OUR CASES THAT JUST MAKES IT

49:24 THAT MUCH LONGER.

49:24 AND SO I THINK THAT'S THAT'S

49:26 IMPORTANT SO THAT BOTH UH THE

49:29 APPLICANT AND UH THE ANY ANY

49:31 COMMENTERS, YOU KNOW, ANY

49:32 RESIDENTS CAN BE HEARD I THINK

49:33 THE CHALLENGES FOR FOR THE

49:35 STAFF THEY ONLY KNOW ABOUT THE

49:37 APPLICANT.

49:37 THEY KNOW IF THERE'S AN

49:38 APPLICANT WHO NEEDS IT THEY

49:40 DON'T THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM

49:41 TO KNOW IF A RESIDENT NEEDS IT

49:43 UNLESS THEY REQUEST IT IN

49:45 ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.

49:46 SO IF SOMEONE JUST POP ON THAT

49:48 THEY'RE NOT CURRENTLY EQUIPPED

49:49 TO DEAL WITH IT.

49:50 BUT NO ONE HAS POPPED ON

49:51 RECENTLY.

49:52 BUT.

49:52 YOU KNOW, JUST TO.

49:53 SAY.

49:53 IS THERE A WAY THOUGH IF YOU IF

49:55 YOU'RE WATCHING IT ON

49:56 TELEVISION UM A CABLE

49:58 TELEVISION THAT AND IF YOU'RE

50:00 SPANISH SPEAK SPANISH PERSON

50:02 SPANISH SPEAKING PERSON UM IS

50:05 IS THE TICK IN THE TEXT DOWN

50:08 DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE

50:09 TELEVISION SCREEN?

50:10 CAN THE TEXT BE IN SPANISH OR

50:13 COULD THE COULD THE TEXT BE IN

50:16 CHINESE OR ANOTHER LANGUAGE

50:18 JUST SO.

50:19 THAT'S LIVE STREAMED.

50:20 WHILE IT'S LIVE STREAM?

50:21 YEAH.

50:22 JUST SO PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO UM

50:25 AROUND ARE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND

50:27 YOU KNOW WE WE THINK OF UM YOU

50:33 KNOW, THE SPANISH SPEAKING

50:34 COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE

50:35 ENTIRE CITY.

50:36 UM, SO THEY MIGHT THEY MIGHT BE

50:39 INTERESTED IN WATCHING THE

50:40 WHOLE THE WHOLE DISCUSSION.

50:43 UM AND MAYBE THEY CAN'T BECAUSE

50:45 OF THAT LANGUAGE BARRIER.

50:47 BUT I'M NOT SAYING WE WE NEED A

50:49 DECISION NOW BUT I'M JUST

50:50 SAYING IS THIS SOMETHING WE

50:52 COULD WORK ON DOWN THE ROAD?

50:53 I JUST WANTED TO SAY TO THAT,

50:55 UH, COUNCILOR FLYNN, UM, IT'S I

50:58 DO THINK THAT AS A SETTING ON

50:59 ZOOM I DON'T KNOW IF THAT

51:01 EVERYONE HAS THAT ACTIVATED OR

51:03 HOW THAT'S I KNOW AT THE

51:04 BEGINNING OF A LOT OF PLANNING

51:05 DEPARTMENT HEARINGS, UM, THEY

51:08 HAVE THAT OPTION TO YOU KNOW,

51:10 YOU CAN HIT THAT SETTING.

51:11 THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN

51:12 LOOK INTO AND GET YOU AN ANSWER

51:13 ON BUT UM GO AHEAD.

51:14 SURE.

51:14 YEAH.

51:15 I MEAN I WAS GOING TO REALLY

51:16 SAY WE CAN'T ANSWER THAT

51:17 QUESTION.

51:18 THAT'S REALLY IS THAT A STAFF

51:19 QUESTION WHETHER THERE'S

51:20 CAPACITY TO DO SO BECAUSE THE

51:21 THE BUTTON THAT YOU'RE TALKING

51:22 ABOUT THAT THAT ASSUMES THAT WE

51:24 KNOW THAT UH INTERPRETATION IS

51:26 NEEDED AND SO THERE IS AN

51:27 INTERPRETER AVAILABLE TO DO IT.

51:29 SO I MEAN IF THERE'S NO ONE IN

51:30 THE BACK END THAT'S GOING TO BE

51:31 DOING THE SPANISH, THE CHINESE

51:32 OR WHATEVER I MEAN.

51:33 YOU'RE NOT YOU'RE PRESSING TOO

51:35 NOBODY.

51:35 YEAH.

51:36 AND TECHNOLOGY HAS REALLY

51:37 IMPROVED IN THAT RESPECT.

51:39 UM, IN THE SENSE THAT A LOT OF.

51:41 PEOPLE HAVE ADD ONS THAT THEY

51:42 CAN ADD ON TO THEIR OWN

51:43 TECHNOLOGY IN ORDER TO DO

51:45 TRANSLATION.

51:46 UM, AND I KNOW THAT THAT IS

51:49 BENEFICIAL TO A LOT OF FOLKS IN

51:50 MY DISTRICT.

51:51 THEY HAVE CERTAIN APPLICATIONS

51:52 ON THEIR COMPUTERS AND ON THEIR

51:53 PHONES THAT DO THAT

51:56 SIMULTANEOUSLY ALMOST LIKE.

51:57 GOOGLE DATA LIKE.

51:58 YOU KNOW THE BEGINNING OF THAT

51:59 HOW COULD BABBLE YOU COULD TALK

52:01 TO YOUR PHONE AND THEN IT WOULD

52:02 TRANSLATE.

52:03 SO THERE ARE A LOT

52:04 OF TECHNOLOGIES COUNCILOR FLYNN

52:05 WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND

52:06 THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION.

52:07 DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS

52:08 ?

52:09 NO JUST I'LL MAKE A FINAL

52:10 POINT.

52:10 UM, I WORKED WITH THE BRE BPA

52:17 WHEN THE BRE UM DIDN'T HAVE ANY

52:21 UM, CANTONESE SPEAKING UH,

52:25 PEOPLE THAT WERE ABLE TO

52:27 COMMUNICATE BUT I WORKED WITH

52:29 THE BRE IN ORDER TO ENSURE THAT

52:33 LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION

52:34 ACCESS WAS CRITICAL AND AND ONE

52:36 OF THE THINGS I DID WAS ENSURE

52:38 THAT THE AND I HAVE RESPECT FOR

52:41 ALL OF THE COMMUNITY

52:42 ORGANIZATIONS IN CHINATOWN BUT

52:44 I I MADE SURE THAT THE UM THE

52:48 THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM WOULD

52:49 SPEAK BEFORE THE CHINATOWN

52:51 RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION BECAUSE

52:54 THAT GROUP, THE CHINATOWN

52:55 RESIDENTS ASSOCIATION

52:58 PREDOMINANTLY THE ENTIRE

52:59 CONVERSATION IS IN CANTONESE

53:02 AND THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO

53:03 THAT MEETING ARE UH OBVIOUSLY

53:05 CANTONESE SPEAKING.

53:07 UM, SO THAT SYSTEM WORKS.

53:09 WELL, I'M JUST I'M JUST

53:10 THINKING OUT LOUD.

53:11 I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

53:12 ALL OF MY CONSTITUENTS, UM, ARE

53:15 HEARD DURING THE PROCESS AND

53:17 AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK

53:20 WITH THE ZBA JUST TO SEE IF WE

53:22 CAN MAKE IMPROVEMENTS ON

53:23 LANGUAGE AND COMMUNICATION

53:24 ACCESS.

53:25 MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR

53:26 GIVING ME AN EXTRA COUPLE

53:27 OF MINUTES TO UM, GO OVER.

53:28 THE COURSE.

53:29 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

53:31 UM, AND I KNOW, UM THAT YOU ALL

53:34 HAVE SERVED WITH DISTINCTION

53:35 AND I'M REALLY GRATEFUL FOR ALL

53:36 THAT YOU DO.

53:37 UM, I DID HEAR SO ONE THEME

53:40 OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE.

53:41 HAD IS.

53:42 THAT IF.

53:43 WE.

53:43 FIX THE ZONING CODE,

53:46 POTENTIALLY SOME OF THE CASES

53:47 THAT COME BEFORE YOU WOULD BE

53:49 UNNECESSARY, WHICH I THINK IS

53:51 VERY IMPORTANT IN CERTAIN

53:52 RESPECTS.

53:53 AND UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY

53:55 REGARDING THE ACCESSORY

53:57 DWELLING UNIT CONVERSATION, I'M

54:00 EXTREMELY PASSIONATE ABOUT

54:01 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS THOUGH

54:03 VERY FEW WOULD PROBABLY BE.

54:04 PERMITTED IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

54:05 WHERE I REPRESENT THE WEST END,

54:07 BEACON HILL, BACK BAY, FENWAY

54:08 AND MISSION HALL.

54:09 THERE'S REALLY NOT A LOT BUT

54:11 THERE.

54:11 ARE A LOT.

54:12 OF UM, LEGALIZED APARTMENTS

54:14 THAT MIGHT BE ABLE.

54:15 TO BE LEGALIZED.

54:16 WITH CERTAIN ZONING REFORMS

54:17 .

54:18 UM, AND I KNOW HOWEVER

54:20 CONTROVERSIAL UM ONE OF THE

54:23 ZONING AMENDMENTS THAT IS

54:24 BEFORE OUR COMMITTEE RIGHT NOW

54:26 UM, IS TO ELIMINATE UM, PARKING

54:29 REQUIREMENTS FOR NEW

54:29 RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, UM,

54:31 FOR ALL NEW RESIDENTIAL

54:32 DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE

54:33 CITY.

54:34 UM, THAT OBVIOUSLY UH, YOU

54:37 KNOW, WE HAD TALKED TO A LOT

54:40 OF DIFFERENT UM, LAWYERS AND

54:43 FOLKS IN THE DEVELOPMENT

54:44 COMMUNITY AND THERE WAS A

54:46 CONVERSATION ABOUT WHETHER IT

54:48 SHOULD BE CLOSED OR TRANSIT OR

54:50 EVERYWHERE.

54:50 AND THE REASON THAT WE ENDED UP

54:53 DECIDING TO DO IT EVERYWHERE IS

54:54 BECAUSE PLACES THAT, UM, ARE

54:57 LESS CLOSE TO TRANSIT ARE MORE

54:59 LIKELY TO HAVE SPACE FOR ADUS.

55:03 SO ESSENTIALLY, UM, YOU KNOW,

55:06 IF WE'RE MAKING INDIVIDUAL

55:08 RESIDENTS IN ORDER TO CREATE AN

55:09 ADU FIGHT THROUGH A.

55:11 PROCESS WHICH THEY'RE GOING TO

55:13 HAVE.

55:13 TO.

55:13 FIGHT THROUGH SOME SORT

55:14 OF PROCESS BUT UM, IN ORDER TO

55:17 UH AND WE'RE REQUIRING A

55:19 PARKING SPACE FOR THAT

55:21 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT THAT IS

55:23 GOING TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS.

55:24 AND IT'S JUST INTERESTING.

55:26 UM.

55:28 OBVIOUSLY IT'S.

55:30 STILL PENDING IN OUR

55:30 COMMITTEE SO UM SO AND I WON'T

55:32 YOU ARE NOT THE ZONING

55:33 COMMISSION SO I WON'T ASK YOU

55:35 TO WEIGH IN ON THAT PROPOSAL,

55:37 BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY

55:38 IMPORTANT TO READ INTO THE

55:39 RECORD THE SIGNIFICANT IMPACTS

55:42 OF PROPOSAL LIKE THAT COULD

55:42 HAVE ON MAKING ACCELERATE

55:44 ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS

55:46 POSSIBLE.

55:47 UM, AND I THINK LEGALIZING

55:48 APARTMENTS YOU KNOW, ATTICS

55:50 THAT YOU KNOW, HAVE A KITCHEN

55:51 AND A BATHROOM AND A SECOND

55:53 EGRESS.

55:53 OTHERWISE YOU'D.

55:55 HAVE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT AS

55:55 WELL.

55:56 SO UM BUT JUST REALLY GRATEFUL

55:58 FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS DO

56:00 EVERY DAY AND ALL THE CASES.

56:02 I MEAN TO HEAR GIOVANNI, YOU'RE

56:04 JUST ONE MEMBER BUT TO HEAR.

56:06 O YOU REVIEWED 4000.

56:08 UH, DID YOU SAY 4000 CASES?

56:10 IT'S ABOUT A THOUSAND PER YEAR

56:12 .

56:13 THOUSAND PER YEAR?

56:13 YEAH.

56:14 SO THAT'S I MEAN THAT'S PRETTY

56:15 IMPRESSIVE.

56:16 IT'S UM AND YOU JUST THINK

56:17 ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT GOES

56:19 INTO THAT ON THE BACK END AS

56:20 WELL.

56:20 SO I WANT TO THANK ALL THE

56:21 STAFF THAT WORKS WITH THE ZBA

56:23 AND UM SO WE ARE GOING TO MOVE

56:26 ON TO OUR NEXT PANEL.

56:28 UM DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER

56:29 COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO

56:30 MAKE BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO THE

56:31 NEXT PANEL?

56:32 UH YES.

56:33 I HAVE ONE UH, SMALL

56:34 QUESTION AND I'M SURPRISED I

56:35 DIDN'T SEE IT THE OTHER DAY.

56:37 IT'S A REAL HONOR.

56:38 TO WORK TO BE ON THE ZBA

56:39 BOARD, BUT IT'S AN HONOR TO

56:41 WORK WITH THESE PEOPLE HERE IS

56:42 GREAT.

56:43 I'M LEARNING A LOT AND I JUST

56:45 THANK THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK

56:46 WITH THESE PEOPLE ON THE ZBA

56:48 BOARD.

56:48 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

56:49 AND I YEAH, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU

56:51 GUYS ARE REALLY IT'S ACTUALLY

56:53 NICE FOR YOU TWO GUYS TO BE

56:54 TOGETHER IN PERSON AND THAT'S

56:56 YOU KNOW THAT'S.

56:57 ONE THING THAT WE'RE.

56:57 ALL AGREEING IT'S ACTUALLY

56:58 REALLY NICE TO SEE YOU IN

57:00 PERSON BECAUSE WE'RE USUALLY

57:01 SEEING YOU ON A ZOOM SCREEN.

57:02 GIOVANNI I'M NOT SURE IF I CAN

57:04 TAKE A MINUTE TO I WANT TO MAKE

57:05 A COMMENT ABOUT CONCEALER AND

57:07 UM QUESTION ABOUT

57:09 INTERPRETATION.

57:10 I DIDN'T SPEAK ANY ENGLISH WHEN

57:11 I CAME TO BOSTON AND FOR MANY

57:13 YEARS I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN

57:16 ALMOST ANYTHING BECAUSE FIRST

57:17 OF ALL I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND.

57:20 FINALLY WHEN I WAS ABLE TO

57:21 UNDERSTAND I DIDN'T FEEL

57:22 COMFORTABLE SPEAKING UM

57:25 PRACTICING MY BOSTON ACCENT

57:26 THAT WAS CONSIDERED OH, YOU GET

57:28 IN THERE.

57:29 UH, BY THE WAY THEY CAN TELL

57:30 YOU IS THIS IF I REMEMBER

57:32 CORRECTLY, OVER THE LAST 40

57:33 YEARS WE HAVE HAD MAYBE FIVE

57:36 SIX CASES THAT REQUIRED

57:38 INTERPRETATION.

57:39 THAT TELLS ME THAT WE HAVE TO

57:42 DO SOMETHING BETTER AS A

57:43 SOCIETY TO ENSURE THAT EVERY

57:46 PERSON WHO DOESN'T SPEAK

57:47 ENGLISH OR IS NOT COMFORTABLE

57:49 WITH THE ENGLISH LEVEL HAS

57:51 ACCESS TO A MEETING WITH

57:52 MATERIALS IN THAT THEY COME TO

57:54 A HEARING THIS UH, THAT TENANTS

57:56 FEEL EMPOWERED TO PARTICIPATE

57:59 BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE

58:00 PERCEPTION IS THAT ONLY

58:01 HOMEOWNERS HAVE THE POWER TO

58:03 WEIGH IN IN PROJECTS.

58:04 AND OF COURSE.

58:07 HOW INTERPRETATION IS THAT

58:08 TECHNICAL UM DETAIL THAT IF

58:10 STAFF CAN FIGURE THAT OUT ON

58:12 ZOOM MUST CONSIDER THERE WAS

58:13 MENTIONING THAT IT'S A BOTTOM

58:14 THAT YOU CAN HEAR IN DIFFERENT

58:16 LANGUAGES BUT IF PEOPLE DON'T

58:18 COME TO A HEARING THEY ARE NOT

58:19 GOING TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND

58:21 OR PARTICIPATE.

58:22 I THINK THIS IS FOR THE CITY

58:23 OF BOSTON AND THE CITY

58:24 COUNCIL TO TELL YOUR

58:26 CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY HAVE A

58:27 VOICE REGARDLESS OF THEIR

58:30 LANGUAGE SKILLS OR THEIR UH,

58:31 INCOME STATUS OR HOMEOWNERSHIP

58:34 OR TENANCY.

58:34 THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO

58:35 PARTICIPATE AND THEY SHOULD.

58:37 THANK YOU SO MUCH GIOVANNI.

58:38 AND I KNOW UM I WENT TO A

58:40 SQUARES AND STREETS MEETING.

58:41 IT WAS ACTUALLY CHIEF AT THE

58:43 TIME ARTHUR JEMISON AND UH,

58:45 MAYOR WU AND THE PERSON WHO WAS

58:47 I'M SEEING WAS JOSE MASSO

58:49 SENIOR AND HE ASKED FOLKS TO

58:52 RAISE THEIR HAND IF THEY WERE A

58:53 HOMEOWNER.

58:54 HE ASKED THEM TO RAISE THEIR

58:54 HAND IF THEY WERE A BUSINESS

58:55 OWNER, IF THEY WERE WHITE, IF

58:57 THEY WERE A PERSON OF COLOR, IF

58:58 THEY WERE A BUSINESS OWNER UM

59:01 IF THEY WERE AND IT ONCE HE DID

59:04 THAT IT WAS A VERY POWERFUL

59:06 DEMONSTRATION OF WHO COMES TO

59:07 PUBLIC MEETINGS AND UM, IT

59:10 REALLY CHANGED MY PERSPECTIVE

59:12 OF LIKE WHO WE NEED TO BRING

59:13 INTO THE FOLD OF PUBLIC

59:14 MEETINGS BECAUSE IT IS VERY

59:16 IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE A

59:18 REPRESENTATIVE ENVIRONMENT.

59:19 AND I REMEMBER WHEN HE ASKED IF

59:21 THERE WERE ANY BUSINESS OWNERS,

59:22 NOT A SINGLE PERSON RAISE THEIR

59:24 HAND AND UM WHEN HE ASKED WHO

59:26 WAS A HOMEOWNER, EVERYONE

59:27 RAISED THEIR HAND AND THERE

59:28 WERE VERY FEW RENTERS IN THE

59:30 ROOM TO TALK ABOUT SQUARES AND

59:31 STREETS AND SOMETHING THAT

59:33 WOULD REALLY IMPACT A LOT

59:35 OF RENTERS AND A LOT

59:36 OF BUSINESS OWNERS.

59:37 SQUARES AND STREETS WAS ALL

59:38 ABOUT MAIN STREETS AND

59:39 BUSINESSES AND SO IT WAS VERY

59:42 IMPACTFUL ON ME AS AN ELECTED

59:43 OFFICIAL OF MAKING SURE THAT WE

59:45 ARE WIDENING YOU KNOW, OUR

59:47 OUTREACH AND I KNOW THAT THAT

59:49 WORK IS UNDERWAY AND IT'S

59:51 INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT.

59:52 UM, BUT I'M GRATEFUL TO YOU ALL

59:55 FOR HEARING ALL THE TESTIMONY

59:57 WEIGHING IT, UM, YOU KNOW,

59:59 LISTENING TO US AS WELL WHEN WE

1:00:01 WERE COMING BEFORE YOU.

1:00:03 UM AND UM SO I WANT TO RELIEVE

1:00:05 YOU REALLY OF THIS PANEL AND

1:00:06 THEN WE'LL GO UH, TO THE UH TO

1:00:08 THE NEW APPOINTEES AND UM SO

1:00:11 I'LL GIVE YOU A SECOND I'M

1:00:12 GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ

1:00:13 THROUGH UH, THOSE UM SO CARLA,

1:00:16 PATRICK AND WILLIAM IF YOU'D

1:00:18 LIKE TO COME AND I JUST WANT TO

1:00:20 THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR

1:00:21 LEADERSHIP AND YOUR SERVICE TO

1:00:22 THE CITY.

1:00:22 THANK YOU.

1:00:31 OKAY, OKAY.

1:00:34 AND FOR PATRICK, UM, NOT TO

1:00:36 EMBARRASS YOU, I'M GOING TO

1:00:37 READ A LETTER ON BEHALF OF THE

1:00:39 BUILDING TRADES UNION THAT WAS

1:00:40 SENT TO THE MAYOR.

1:00:42 UM, DEAR MAYOR RUE ON BEHALF

1:00:44 OF THE BUILDING TRADES

1:00:45 EMPLOYERS ASSOCIATION I AM

1:00:47 WRITING UNDER CHAPTER 665

1:00:49 OF THE ACTS OF 1950 1956

1:00:51 SECTION EIGHT TO SUBMIT A

1:00:53 LETTER OF RECOMMENDATION FOR

1:00:54 PATRICK WALSH, BUSINESS MANAGER

1:00:56 FINANCIAL SECRETARY OF THE

1:00:58 MASSACHUSETTS LABORERS DISTRICT

1:00:59 COUNCIL LOCAL 223 FOR THE

1:01:02 VACANT ALTERNATE SEAT OF THE

1:01:03 ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS THE

1:01:05 MASSACHUSETTS LABOR DISTRICT

1:01:07 COUNCIL LOCAL 223 IS LOCATED AT

1:01:09 12 A ABERDEEN STREET,

1:01:11 DORCHESTER.

1:01:12 MR WALSH BECAME A THIRD

1:01:14 GENERATION CONSTRUCTION SHAFT

1:01:15 LABOR CONSTRUCTION CRAFT

1:01:17 LABORER WHEN HE JOINED THE

1:01:18 RANKS OF LABORERS LOCAL 223 AND

1:01:20 A FACILITY OF LIUNA.

1:01:21 BECAUSE OF HIS DEDICATION AND

1:01:22 COMMITMENT TO HIS FELLOW

1:01:23 LABORERS, MR WALSH WAS ELECTED

1:01:25 TO THE POSITION OF SERGEANT AT

1:01:26 ARMS FOR A LOCAL UNION 223 AND

1:01:28 HELD THAT POSITION FOR SEVEN

1:01:30 YEARS UNTIL BEING ELECTED TO

1:01:31 THE EXECUTIVE BOARD IN 2024.

1:01:33 MR WALSH BECAME THE BUSINESS

1:01:35 MANAGER OF LOCAL 223.

1:01:36 MR WALSH ALSO RECENTLY ELECTED

1:01:38 TO THE BOSTON LABOR

1:01:40 COUNCIL EXECUTIVE BOARD.

1:01:41 MR WALSH IS DEEPLY COMMITTED TO

1:01:43 OUR BOSTON COMMUNITY AND WORKS

1:01:45 TIRELESSLY ON BEHALF OF HIS

1:01:46 UNION AND THE GREATER BOSTON

1:01:47 UNION TRADES.

1:01:48 HE IS ADMIRED BY HIS PEERS AND

1:01:50 AS ALWAYS A VOICE FOR FAIRNESS

1:01:51 AND INCLUSION.

1:01:52 I HOPE THIS NOMINATION MEETS

1:01:53 YOUR APPROVAL AND WE RECOMMEND

1:01:55 APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION

1:01:55 FOR THE REPRESENTATION GIVEN

1:01:57 THE UNION CONSTRUCTION

1:01:58 INDUSTRY.

1:02:00 UH VERY YOURS TRULY.

1:02:01 THOMAS GUIDING EXECUTIVE

1:02:03 DIRECTOR JUST WANTED TO READ

1:02:04 THAT THEY ASKED ME TO READ THAT

1:02:05 INTO THE RECORD.

1:02:06 SO WE'LL START WITH UM,

1:02:08 PATRICK, JUST BECAUSE I GAVE

1:02:09 YOU A GREAT UM, INTRODUCTION

1:02:11 AND THEN WE'LL GO TO CARLA AND

1:02:13 WILLIAM.

1:02:14 THANK YOU.

1:02:14 GOOD MORNING, CHAIR DEREK AND

1:02:15 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILORS.

1:02:17 UM, MY NAME IS PATRICK WALSH.

1:02:19 I AM A LIFELONG RESIDENT

1:02:22 OF DISTRICT THREE.

1:02:23 I'M THE BUSINESS MANAGER

1:02:24 OF LABORERS LOCAL 223 AND

1:02:26 DORCHESTER.

1:02:26 UM, THROUGH THAT CAPACITY I

1:02:28 REPRESENT THE, UH ALL THE UNION

1:02:31 LABORERS IN CONSTRUCTION THAT

1:02:33 WORK IN THE SEAPORT SOUTH

1:02:35 BOSTON, DORCHESTER, ROSLINDALE

1:02:37 ,ROXBURY, MATTAPAN, HYDE PARK

1:02:40 ,UH WEST ROXBURY AND UM HALF

1:02:44 OF CHINATOWN AND THE FINANCIAL

1:02:46 DISTRICT.

1:02:47 EVERYWHERE BUT DISTRICT EIGHT I

1:02:48 GUESS.

1:02:49 I COVER ABOUT HALF OF THE CITY

1:02:50 AND I COVER THE BOSTON HARBOR

1:02:51 ISLANDS.

1:02:52 UM, SO THROUGH THAT CAPACITY I

1:02:55 REPRESENT, UH, PEOPLE LOOKING

1:02:57 FOR FAIR WAGES, UH, FAIR

1:02:58 EMPLOYMENT, UM, GOOD HEALTH

1:03:00 BENEFITS.

1:03:01 UH, I ALSO AM A PARENT OF TWO

1:03:03 CHILDREN THAT ATTEND BOSTON

1:03:04 PUBLIC SCHOOL.

1:03:05 THEY ATTEND ELLIOTT SCHOOL A

1:03:06 FEW BLOCKS FROM HERE.

1:03:08 UM, I AM AN ACTIVE MEMBER IN

1:03:11 THE COLUMBIA SAVIN HILL CIVIC.

1:03:12 ASSOCIATION AND I AM A, UH,

1:03:15 LIFE ALMOST LIFELONG LITTLE

1:03:17 LEAGUE COACH OF UH, DORCHESTER

1:03:20 BASEBALL NOW WHICH WAS ONE

1:03:21 SEVEN HILL LITTLE LEAGUE.

1:03:23 UM I ALSO SERVE IN CAPACITY AS

1:03:25 A MEMBER OF THE BOARD

1:03:26 OF DIRECTORS FOR THE MASTERS

1:03:27 OF WATER AND UH, WATER

1:03:29 RESOURCES AUTHORITY.

1:03:30 UM, I SIT ON THE WORKERS COMP

1:03:32 ADVISORY COUNCIL ON BEHALF

1:03:33 OF THE GOVERNOR.

1:03:34 I WANT TO THANK MAYOR WU AND I

1:03:36 WANT.

1:03:36 TO.

1:03:36 THANK THE BUILDING TRADES

1:03:37 EMPLOYEES ASSOCIATION FOR MY

1:03:39 RECOMMENDATION FOR NOMINATION,

1:03:40 UM, TO THE CBA.

1:03:42 THANK YOU.

1:03:43 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:03:44 UM, AND YOUR NOMINATION

1:03:45 DEFINITELY HIGHLIGHTS THAT UM,

1:03:48 BASED ON THE WAY THAT A LOT

1:03:49 OF THESE UM, NOMINATIONS WORK,

1:03:51 IT'S LIKE SPECIFIC

1:03:52 ORGANIZATIONS PUTTING FORWARD

1:03:54 SO WE DON'T ALWAYS UM, YOU

1:03:57 KNOW, DISCLOSE LIKE WHO WAS

1:03:59 NOMINATED BY WHO BUT UM, IT'S A

1:04:01 VERY COMPLEX PROCESS AND I KNOW

1:04:02 JUST WANT TO THANK UH, MAC AND

1:04:04 BONNER WHO I KNOW ACTUALLY USED

1:04:06 TO BE IN OUR OFFICE AND NOW

1:04:08 HE'S RUNNING BOARDS AND

1:04:09 COMMISSIONS FOR THE CITY.

1:04:10 SO I WANT TO CONGRATULATE HIM

1:04:11 ON HIS FIRST BOARDS AND

1:04:12 COMMISSIONS HEARING.

1:04:14 UM, SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO TO

1:04:16 CARLA.

1:04:17 SO GOOD TO SEE YOU.

1:04:18 GOOD MORNING, COUNCILOR DURKAN

1:04:19 .

1:04:20 UM, COUNCIL OF UM.

1:04:21 COUNCILOR MURPHY, UM, THANK YOU

1:04:23 SO MUCH FOR HAVING MEJIA TODAY.

1:04:24 SO I AM CARLA MONTEIRO.

1:04:25 I'M A LIFELONG RESIDENT

1:04:27 OF DORCHESTER.

1:04:28 UM I GREW UP IN FIELDS CORNER

1:04:29 AND NOW LIVE CLOSER TO MORE AND

1:04:31 STREET AND, UM, I'M A MOM, I'M

1:04:33 A HOMEOWNER, I'M A COMMUNITY

1:04:36 ADVOCATE.

1:04:36 I'M ALSO A SOCIAL WORKER AND I

1:04:38 HAVE UM SERVED ON MANY BOARDS

1:04:40 AND CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE

1:04:42 BOSTON STATE HOSPITAL COMMITTEE

1:04:44 AND UM, JUST YOU KNOW, AND JUST

1:04:47 BECAME INTERESTED IN THE ZONING

1:04:49 BOARD AFTER HAVING MY OWN

1:04:50 EXPERIENCE UM, WITH, YOU KNOW,

1:04:52 PARTICIPATING IN THE ZONING

1:04:53 BOARD HEARINGS, UM, AS A

1:04:55 COMMUNITY MEMBER AND AS A

1:04:56 MEMBER OF UM HARVARD UM

1:04:59 COMMUNITY GROUPS AND SO AND

1:05:01 ALSO PARTICIPATING WITH THE

1:05:02 MATTAPAN COMMUNITY GROUP.

1:05:03 SO I'LL PASS THERE.

1:05:04 I WAS I'M THANK YOU SO MUCH,

1:05:06 CARLA.

1:05:07 OKAY.

1:05:07 UM, WILLIAM.

1:05:09 GOOD MORNING.

1:05:10 THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

1:05:11 UM, MADAM CHAIR, NICE TO SEE

1:05:14 YOU BOTH CITY COUNCILORS.

1:05:15 UH, MY NAME IS BILL MASTERSON.

1:05:17 I'M HONORED TO BE, UM, HERE AND

1:05:18 CONSIDERATION FOR A NOMINATION

1:05:20 FOR THE ZONING BOARD

1:05:21 OF APPEALS.

1:05:22 ALSO VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE

1:05:23 CURRENT MEMBERS AND THE PASSION

1:05:25 THAT THEY HAVE FOR WHAT THEY DO

1:05:27 AS WELL AS THE EXPERIENCE THAT

1:05:28 THEY BRING TO THE BOARD.

1:05:29 UM.

1:05:31 I GREW UP IN MALDEN, UM, NOT

1:05:33 TOO FAR FROM HERE, RAISED A

1:05:34 FAMILY IN NORTH ANDOVER AND

1:05:36 MOVED TO DISTRICT ONE IN EAST

1:05:37 BOSTON UH, IN 2019 UM, I MY

1:05:41 CAREER WAS WITH THE GILLETTE

1:05:42 COMPANY IN BOSTON FOR 30 YEARS

1:05:45 UM, WHERE I UM RAN THROUGH A

1:05:48 BUNCH OF DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES

1:05:50 SALES, UH, FINANCE, MARKETING,

1:05:51 BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT.

1:05:53 UM, SO I HAVE A LOT

1:05:54 OF CORPORATE EXPERIENCE.

1:05:55 I HAVE A DEGREE I WAS DAY

1:05:57 STUDENT AT NORTHEASTERN, UM,

1:05:59 COMMUTED THERE FOR FIVE YEARS

1:06:00 FROM MALDEN AND I HAVE MY MBA

1:06:01 FROM SUFFOLK UNIVERSITY UM,

1:06:04 SINCE GRADUATE SINCE UM,

1:06:06 LEAVING GILLETTE, UM, I'VE

1:06:09 SPENT MOST OF MY TIME

1:06:10 VOLUNTEERING.

1:06:11 SO UM MY CURRENT ROLE UH, IS UM

1:06:15 UH WHAT TAKES UP MOST OF THE

1:06:16 TIME MY TIME DURING THE DAY IS

1:06:18 UM I FOUNDED AND UH, RUNNING A

1:06:20 UM, URBAN FORESTRY NONPROFIT IN

1:06:22 EAST BOSTON CALLED TREE ESTY.

1:06:24 UM, IT'S ALL VOLUNTEER.

1:06:26 UM, OUR MISSION IS TO PLANT

1:06:27 TREES, MAINTAIN THE TREES THAT

1:06:29 ARE ALREADY IN THE GROUND AND

1:06:30 THEN EDUCATE RESIDENTS ON THE

1:06:32 BENEFITS OF TREES.

1:06:33 SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE

1:06:34 EAST BOSTON COMMUNITY.

1:06:35 I'VE ATTENDED UM, ALL OF THE

1:06:37 CIVIC ASSOCIATION MEETINGS.

1:06:39 UM, WHEN I MOVED TO EAST BOSTON

1:06:41 SEVEN YEARS AGO, IT WAS JUST AT

1:06:43 THE START OF PLAN EAST BOSTON

1:06:44 WHICH I THINK TOOK ABOUT FIVE

1:06:46 YEARS.

1:06:46 SO I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT

1:06:47 PROCESS ALL ALONG THE WAY.

1:06:49 I'VE ALWAYS HAD AN INTEREST IN

1:06:51 UM IN DEVELOPMENT AND UM I AM

1:06:55 ON TOP OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH

1:06:56 BPA UM IN THEIR ON THEIR

1:06:58 NEWSLETTER AND KIND OF KEEP MY

1:07:01 UM FINGERS ON WHAT'S HAPPENING

1:07:02 WITH DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE

1:07:03 CITY OF BOSTON.

1:07:04 IT'S JUST AN AREA OF INTEREST

1:07:05 FOR ME WHICH HAS BEEN REALLY

1:07:06 COOL.

1:07:06 I'VE SAT ON TO IAG'S IN EAST

1:07:09 BOSTON UM AT SIX CHELSEA STREET

1:07:11 WHICH WAS JUST A COUPLE

1:07:12 OF MONTHS AGO AS WELL AS THE

1:07:13 LARGE UM COMPLEX THAT'S GOING

1:07:16 IN UH UNDER DEVELOPMENT RIGHT

1:07:17 NOW IN DAY SQUARE.

1:07:18 UM, I'M ALSO PRESIDENT OF THE

1:07:21 CONDO ASSOCIATION.

1:07:22 THE CONDO WHERE I LIVE IS AN 80

1:07:24 UNIT BUILDING.

1:07:24 UM, SO I'VE GOT SOME EXPERIENCE

1:07:27 THERE AS WELL.

1:07:28 UM, BUT THE WORK THAT I DO WITH

1:07:30 TREES IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME.

1:07:31 UM, VERY.

1:07:33 MUCH UM, AND PASSIONATE ABOUT

1:07:35 THE ENVIRONMENT.

1:07:36 UM, I RECEIVED AN AWARD LAST

1:07:38 YEAR FROM THERE WILL AN

1:07:39 INDIVIDUAL AWARD FOR A CLIMATE

1:07:41 UH ACHIEVEMENT AWARD UM, FOR

1:07:42 THE WORK THAT I'VE DONE.

1:07:44 UM, I PARTICIPATED IN THE

1:07:45 CLIMATE ACTION PLAN REVEAL ON

1:07:47 THE PRESS IN LOPRESTI PARK UM,

1:07:49 THIS PAST APRIL.

1:07:50 SO A LOT OF MY FOCUS IS REALLY

1:07:52 ON DOING UM ON DOING THAT WORK.

1:07:54 UM, I HAVE TO HAVE A REASON TO

1:07:56 GET OUT OF BED IN THE MORNING,

1:07:57 SO THAT'S WHY I STAY BUSY DOING

1:07:59 THAT TYPE OF CIVIC WORK.

1:08:00 WHEN I WAS LIVING IN NORTH

1:08:01 ANDOVER I WAS A MEMBER

1:08:02 OF SEVERAL BOARDS NONPROFIT

1:08:04 BOARDS THERE AS WELL.

1:08:05 SO UM I'VE GOT A FAIR AMOUNT

1:08:07 OF BOARD EXPERIENCE AS WELL.

1:08:08 THANK YOU WILLIAM AND I KNOW

1:08:10 YOUR GAME BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO

1:08:11 SAY THEY'RE RETIRED OR NEVER

1:08:13 RETIRED THEY'RE ALWAYS LIKE THE

1:08:14 BUSIEST PEOPLE I'VE EVER MET.

1:08:16 SO, UM, THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT

1:08:18 YOU DO AND, UM, I JUST GIVEN

1:08:21 YOUR, UM, WORK WITH CLIMATE AND

1:08:23 YOUR REPUTATION PRECEDES YOU

1:08:24 WITH ALL THE TREES, YOU KNOW?

1:08:26 UM, SO I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING

1:08:28 TREES AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR

1:08:30 OWN UM WE TREE IN THE WEST END

1:08:33 THAT IS DOING GREAT SIMILAR

1:08:34 WORK AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE

1:08:35 BEEN ABLE TO I.

1:08:36 DO.

1:08:36 KNOW THEM.

1:08:37 YEAH.

1:08:37 WORK WITH THEM.

1:08:37 UM, CAN YOU DESCRIBE YOUR

1:08:40 PHILOSOPHY ON ZONING AND LAND

1:08:41 USE IN BOSTON, PARTICULARLY IN

1:08:43 LIGHT OF THE CITY'S HOUSING

1:08:45 AFFORDABILITY AND CLIMATE

1:08:45 RESILIENCE GOALS?

1:08:47 WELL, I MEAN LIKE I SAID, I PUT

1:08:49 CLIMATE UM VERY HIGH IN THE TOP

1:08:51 OF THE LIST BUT THAT IS DOESN'T

1:08:52 ALWAYS COME INTO PLAY WITH THE

1:08:53 ZONING, UH, REQUIREMENTS I

1:08:56 GUESS YOU KNOW, I HAVE TO TAKE

1:08:57 EACH CASE UH, ON A CASE BY CASE

1:08:59 BASIS IN TERMS OF HOW IT'S

1:09:00 PRESENTED AT THE MEETINGS.

1:09:02 UM, I TRY TO SEPARATE THE

1:09:04 PERSON FROM THE PROBLEM SO TO

1:09:05 SPEAK SO THAT IT'S NOT BECAUSE

1:09:07 THE WAY THAT, UM, SOMEBODY IS

1:09:09 PRESENTING I MIGHT NOT LIKE BUT

1:09:10 IT'S REALLY THE FACTS THAT YOU

1:09:12 NEED TO MAKE BASED YOUR

1:09:13 DECISIONS ON.

1:09:14 UM AND SO LOOKING AT IT THROUGH

1:09:16 THAT LENS I THINK WILL HELP

1:09:17 ME BE ABLE TO BE A GOOD MEMBER

1:09:19 AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS.

1:09:20 UM, BUT LIKE I SAID IT

1:09:22 DEFINITELY IS ON A CASE BY CASE

1:09:23 BASIS.

1:09:24 I WISH I HAD SOME I HAVE

1:09:26 ATTENDED THE VIRTUAL MEETINGS

1:09:27 BEFORE SO I KIND OF HAD NO UH

1:09:28 THE PROCESS UM I WISH I HAD A

1:09:31 LITTLE BIT MORE EXPERIENCE TO

1:09:32 BE ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION

1:09:33 MORE INTELLIGENTLY, BUT I THINK

1:09:34 IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT

1:09:36 UM, I'LL LEARN MORE, YOU KNOW,

1:09:38 AS I GO ALONG.

1:09:38 NO, I THINK IT'S REALLY HELPFUL

1:09:40 TO HAVE HAD THE EXPERIENCE

1:09:41 OF WORKING ON A NEIGHBORHOOD

1:09:42 PLAN BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE SORT

1:09:44 OF LIKE FIGURING OUT, YOU KNOW

1:09:46 ,OKAY, THESE ARE THE CONCEPTS.

1:09:48 I MEAN, YOU SEEM LIKE YOU'VE

1:09:49 YOU'VE DONE A LOT IN THIS

1:09:51 RESPECT.

1:09:52 UM, DO YOU UM, IN TERMS OF UH

1:09:55 WOULD WOULD EITHER OF YOU LIKE

1:09:56 TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION AND I

1:09:58 CAN SAY IT AGAIN, HOW WOULD YOU

1:10:00 DESCRIBE YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON

1:10:01 ZONING AND LAND USE IN BOSTON,

1:10:02 PARTICULARLY IN LIGHT OF THE

1:10:03 CITY'S HOUSING AFFORDABILITY

1:10:05 AND CLIMATE RESILIENCE GOALS?

1:10:07 I THINK FOR ME THROUGH MY

1:10:08 LIVED EXPERIENCE OF LIVING IN

1:10:09 UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES THAT IS

1:10:10 OFTEN FORGOTTEN WHEN IT COMES

1:10:11 TO CLIMATE CHANGE OR YOU KNOW,

1:10:13 ANY ANYTHING RELATED TO CLIMATE

1:10:15 OR ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES.

1:10:16 UM, I WOULD LOOK AT IT THROUGH

1:10:18 THAT LENS OF UH THE EXPERIENCE

1:10:20 OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING LESS TREE

1:10:21 CANOPY AND UM ALSO YOU KNOW,

1:10:24 THIS TREE THERE'S CERTAIN

1:10:25 NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THERE'S

1:10:25 TREES THAT ARE GOING UP THAT UM

1:10:27 ,NEIGHBORHOODS AREN'T OR

1:10:29 PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE

1:10:30 NOT CONSIDERED LIKE I'M AN

1:10:31 ASTHMATIC.

1:10:32 SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I

1:10:32 ALWAYS THINK ABOUT.

1:10:33 UM, IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, WHAT

1:10:35 CAN YOU KNOW, TRIGGER

1:10:36 ALLERGIES.

1:10:37 I'M CALLED LIKE THE TRIAD WHICH

1:10:39 IS ASTHMA, ECZEMA AND UM,

1:10:41 ALLERGIES.

1:10:41 AND THAT IS THE CASE FOR MANY

1:10:43 PEOPLE LIVING IN BOSTON.

1:10:44 AND SO THOSE ARE SOME THINGS

1:10:46 THAT I WOULD ALSO TAKE INTO

1:10:47 CONSIDERATION, UM, THROUGH MY

1:10:48 OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.

1:10:50 THAT IS SO INTERESTING BECAUSE

1:10:52 I UM, HAVING I REPRESENT UH,

1:10:55 MISSION HEALTH AND I WENT

1:10:56 THROUGH A WALK WITH THE MISSION

1:10:57 MAIN TENANT TASK FORCE.

1:10:59 UM THERE WERE THERE WAS SOME

1:11:00 MONEY LEFT IN THE BUDGET AT THE

1:11:02 END OF THE YEAR.

1:11:03 SO THEY WERE FIGURING OUT LIKE

1:11:04 WHERE DO WE PUT TREES SORT

1:11:05 OF IN A YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE

1:11:07 HAVE THIS TREE CONTRACTOR THAT

1:11:09 WE'VE BEEN YOU KNOW, THAT'S

1:11:10 BEEN HIRED AND I KNOW UM ONCE

1:11:12 THE SIDEWALK STARTED TO GET CUT

1:11:14 INTO PEOPLE WERE LIKE WHAT'S

1:11:15 GOING IN HERE?

1:11:16 WHAT'S THE PLAN?

1:11:17 WHAT TYPE OF TREES, HOW LONG

1:11:19 UNTIL THEY REACH THE FULL

1:11:21 CANOPY?

1:11:21 SO I ACTUALLY DID A WALK WITH

1:11:22 THE MISSION MAINTENANCE TASK

1:11:23 FORCE WITH OUR URBAN FORESTRY.

1:11:27 UM, YOU KNOW TODD MR WHO DOES

1:11:29 SUCH A GREAT JOB BUT IT WAS

1:11:31 LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF DESCRIBING

1:11:33 LIKE THIS IS WHAT THIS TREE

1:11:34 WILL BE IN TEN YEARS.

1:11:36 IT WAS LIKE LOOKING AT SORT

1:11:37 OF THE HERE'S WHERE IT IS NOW

1:11:39 AND HERE'S WHERE IT WILL BE.

1:11:40 AND THIS WAS UM AND IT WAS IN A

1:11:42 COMMUNITY THAT HAD NEVER HAD

1:11:44 NEVER GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, 25 NEW

1:11:46 TREES.

1:11:47 SO THEY WEREN'T SURE WHAT TO

1:11:48 EXPECT.

1:11:48 THEY WEREN'T SURE WHAT THE

1:11:49 CLEANUP WOULD BE.

1:11:50 A LOT OF THE MISSION MAINE IS

1:11:51 PRIVATELY MAINTAINED.

1:11:53 SO IT WAS LIKE THOSE

1:11:54 CONVERSATIONS ARE SO IMPORTANT

1:11:55 AND NOT NECESSARILY RELEVANT

1:11:57 EXACTLY TO LIKE THE INDIVIDUAL

1:11:59 DECISIONS OF BUT AGAIN YOU'RE

1:12:01 REVIEWING A LOT OF PROJECTS

1:12:02 THAT HAVE A LOT OF BENEFITS

1:12:03 ASSOCIATED WITH THEM AND UM,

1:12:05 AND FOLLOWING THE DEVELOPMENT

1:12:07 PROCESS IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT

1:12:09 IN THAT AND I YEAH, I HAVE A

1:12:11 FRIEND WHO HAS THAT TRIAD AS

1:12:12 WELL AND IT'S NEVER IT'S NEVER

1:12:14 EASY.

1:12:14 SHE'S ALSO ALLERGIC TO SEAFOOD

1:12:16 SO IT'S JUST LIKE SHE HAS A

1:12:17 REALLY TOUGH TIME SO I KNOW

1:12:19 EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE

1:12:20 EXPERIENCING BUT UM AND I KNOW

1:12:22 UH PATRICK, YOU'RE COMING AT

1:12:23 THIS MORE FROM THE SORT OF, UH,

1:12:27 UNION LABOR LENS.

1:12:28 UM, CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT

1:12:30 HOW YOU FEEL?

1:12:31 I OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A LOT

1:12:32 OF GREAT JOBS COMING WITH

1:12:33 CLIMATE RESILIENCE AND OTHER

1:12:34 THINGS AND JUST CURIOUS SORT

1:12:36 OF YOUR LENS ON THAT AND YES.

1:12:38 SO MY LENS ON IT IS IT

1:12:39 DEFINITELY DOES HAS TO BE TAKEN

1:12:41 CASE BY CASE BASIS.

1:12:42 UM, I HAPPEN TO LIVE IN ONE

1:12:43 OF THE MOST AFFECTED AREAS

1:12:46 OF BOSTON IN CLIMATE CHANGE.

1:12:48 UM I LIVE IN SAVIN HILL AND I

1:12:49 WORK AT THE CORNER OF FREEPORT

1:12:50 AND MARSHALL BOULEVARD AND

1:12:53 THREE DAYS A WEEK I NEED TO

1:12:54 TAKE A DIFFERENT ROUTE TO WORK

1:12:55 BECAUSE MORRISSEY BOULEVARD IS

1:12:56 FLOODED.

1:12:56 RIGHT?

1:12:56 RISING SEA LEVELS.

1:12:58 UM, I DO THINK IT NEEDS TO BE

1:13:00 CASE BY CASE BECAUSE I I THINK

1:13:01 A DEVELOPMENT ON MORRISSEY

1:13:03 BOULEVARD NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT

1:13:04 A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN A

1:13:05 DEVELOPMENT THAT YOU'RE GOING

1:13:06 TO PUT AT THE TOP OF A HILL ON

1:13:08 ON CLIMATE ON ON SEA LEVEL

1:13:10 STUFF LIKE.

1:13:10 IS IT FLOODED TODAY WITH THE

1:13:12 RAIN?

1:13:12 UH CAME INTO TOWN EARLY ENOUGH

1:13:14 AND CAME DOWN AND THROUGH AND

1:13:16 DOWN THE STREET.

1:13:18 SO UM IT'S IT'S TYPICALLY

1:13:19 FLOODED EVERY DAY AT HIGH TIDE.

1:13:22 UM IT'S BUT AT THE AT THE SAME

1:13:24 TIME IT IS A PROBLEM.

1:13:25 UM I DO LIKE TO SEE I DO LIKE

1:13:28 WHAT I SEE ON THE SEAPORT WITH

1:13:29 SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON THE

1:13:30 SEAPORT WITH THE WITH THE

1:13:31 RISING UH, SEA WALLS AND AND

1:13:34 DOING SOME CERTAIN STUFF I, I

1:13:36 SIT ON THE BOARD SO I SEE WHAT

1:13:39 WHAT'S AFFECTED OVER THERE UM

1:13:41 IN AND IT IS A PROBLEM IT'S A

1:13:43 PROBLEM IN THE CITY AND AND

1:13:44 IT'S A PROBLEM EVERYWHERE AND

1:13:46 IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT ON A

1:13:47 CASE BY CASE BASIS IN, UM, WHAT

1:13:50 ZONING RELIEF A PARTICULAR

1:13:51 PROJECT NEEDS.

1:13:52 YEAH.

1:13:53 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:13:54 AND I WANT TO GIVE A CHANCE FOR

1:13:55 MY COLLEAGUES TO ASK ANY

1:13:56 QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.

1:13:57 UM, THESE ARE OBVIOUSLY NEW

1:13:59 APPOINTEES.

1:14:00 UM, AND SO JUST WANT TO MAKE

1:14:01 SURE THAT, UM, WE KIND

1:14:03 OF UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE

1:14:04 COMING FROM AND JUST IT SOUNDS

1:14:05 LIKE THE THREE OF YOU ARE JUST

1:14:08 ONE SO QUALIFIED TWO COMING

1:14:10 FROM LIKE DIFFERENT

1:14:11 PERSPECTIVES, WHICH IS ALWAYS

1:14:12 VERY IMPORTANT TO BRING

1:14:14 TOGETHER AND UM AND THREE HAVE

1:14:16 THE LIVED EXPERIENCE OF LIKE

1:14:18 LIVING IN THE CITY AND THREE

1:14:20 DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES UM

1:14:22 OF YOU KNOW COMING TO THE CITY,

1:14:23 YOU KNOW, MOVING HERE, WORKING

1:14:25 HERE, BEING AN EXECUTIVE HERE

1:14:27 IT'S A LOT WITH LOTS

1:14:27 OF DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.

1:14:29 UM SO AND AND OBVIOUSLY THE

1:14:30 UNION LEADERSHIP SO UM AND UH

1:14:33 SO IT'S GREAT TO SEE YOU ALL

1:14:35 AND UM THANK YOU.

1:14:36 I LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING

1:14:38 FORWARD YOUR THREE NOMINATIONS

1:14:39 AT OUR NEXT MEETING AND UM,

1:14:41 COUNCILOR MURPHY AND

1:14:43 COUNCILOR FLYNN LET ME KNOW IF

1:14:44 YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

1:14:44 OF COURSE.

1:14:45 UM.

1:14:46 THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

1:14:47 THANK YOU FOR SHARING YOUR

1:14:50 STORIES.

1:14:51 I THINK IT HIGHLIGHTS THE HUMAN

1:14:54 SIDE THAT'S SO IMPORTANT IN

1:14:55 GOVERNMENT IN ALL OF THESE

1:14:56 IMPORTANT ROLES, EVEN US AS

1:14:58 ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE

1:15:01 POLICY, YOU KNOW, IS NEVER FAR

1:15:03 AWAY FROM THE HUMAN IMPACT.

1:15:05 SO YOUR LIVED EXPERIENCES BRING

1:15:07 .

1:15:07 I THINK UM A DIFFERENT LENS.

1:15:10 I KNOW WE JUST SAW.

1:15:11 THE FIRST PANEL WHO.

1:15:12 WILL BE REAPPOINTED WHO

1:15:13 ALSO.

1:15:13 BRING FORTH THEIR LIVED

1:15:15 EXPERIENCE BUT IT'S UM YOU KNOW

1:15:17 ,WHAT I HEARD IS YOU KNOW,

1:15:19 ENCOURAGING RIGHT, THAT WE'RE

1:15:21 GOING TO BE HEARING VOICES AND

1:15:22 WHEN PEOPLE GO IN FRONT OF THE

1:15:24 ZONING BOARD LIKE YOU SAID,

1:15:26 YOU'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF IT AS

1:15:27 YOU KNOW, OWNING A THREE FAMILY

1:15:29 PROBABLY AND WANTING SOMETHING

1:15:31 PROBABLY SIMPLE AND JUST JUST

1:15:33 HAD A CONVERSATION TOO THAT

1:15:35 MANY PEOPLE ARE INTIMIDATED BY

1:15:37 THE ZONING BOARD AND THEY

1:15:39 EITHER SPEND MONEY THEY

1:15:40 SHOULDN'T NEED TO ON LEGAL

1:15:43 SUPPORT OR YOU KNOW, CONSULTING

1:15:45 BECAUSE THEY'RE AFRAID TO PUT

1:15:47 FORTH SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE

1:15:49 A SIMPLE PASS AND OTHER TIMES

1:15:51 OBVIOUSLY BIGGER PROJECTS NEED

1:15:52 THAT.

1:15:52 BUT I DO THINK THE IMPORTANT

1:15:55 PART AND SOMETHING THAT I THINK

1:15:57 IS IMPORTANT IN MY ROLE TOO IS

1:15:59 PEOPLE NEED TO TRUST YOU.

1:16:00 PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY

1:16:01 CAN COME AND ASK YOU QUESTIONS

1:16:03 AND THAT THEY'LL BE TREATED

1:16:04 FAIRLY.

1:16:05 AND I KNOW THAT ALL THREE

1:16:06 OF YOU WILL BRING THAT WITH

1:16:08 YOUR EXPERIENCE AND ALL OF YOUR

1:16:11 AND THANK YOU FOR PLANTING

1:16:12 TREES IN EAST BOSTON.

1:16:14 I SPEND A LOT OF TIME THERE UM

1:16:16 EVERY PART OF THE CITY I KNOW

1:16:18 COUNCIL FLYNN WILL PROBABLY

1:16:19 HAVE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT THAT

1:16:20 BECAUSE CHINATOWN IS HIGHLY

1:16:22 IMPACTED.

1:16:23 BUT LIKE YOU SAID CARLA, THAT

1:16:25 WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT

1:16:26 WE'RE ALLOWING TO BE BUILT

1:16:28 ISN'T JUST MAKING SURE WE'RE

1:16:30 HOUSING PEOPLE AND THAT THERE'S

1:16:32 BUSINESSES THAT WE'RE ALSO

1:16:33 THINKING ABOUT OUR FUTURE AND

1:16:35 WHAT IMPACT IT HAS.

1:16:36 AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE

1:16:38 THAT THERE'S OPEN SPACES AND

1:16:40 THAT BALANCE IS NECESSARY.

1:16:42 AND PAT, THANK YOU ALWAYS I

1:16:44 KNOW MY DAUGHTER IS PRIVILEGED

1:16:46 I SAY IS HONORED TO BE A

1:16:47 TEACHER TO YOUR KIDS AND SO YOU

1:16:51 DO LEAVE.

1:16:51 I KNOW SOME PEOPLE MAY NOT

1:16:52 THINK IT BUT YOU DO LEAVE THAT

1:16:54 HALF MILE RADIUS FROM 7LI OFTEN

1:16:56 SEE YOU OVER AT THE ELLIOTT

1:16:57 SUPPORTING THAT SCHOOL AND ALL

1:16:59 ALL THINGS CITY.

1:17:00 SO THANK YOU ALL FOR PUTTING

1:17:02 YOUR NAMES FORWARD AND LOOKING

1:17:03 FORWARD TO VOTING IN FAVOR.

1:17:05 THANK YOU CHAIR.

1:17:06 THANK YOU SO MUCH

1:17:07 COUNCILOR MURPHY.

1:17:08 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

1:17:10 THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THANK

1:17:12 YOU TO THE UM, THREE NOMINEES,

1:17:16 UM, BILL KOLLAR AND PATRICK NOT

1:17:19 JUST FOR COMING FORWARD FOR THE

1:17:22 ZONING BOARD BUT FOR THE

1:17:23 INCREDIBLE, INCREDIBLE

1:17:25 LEADERSHIP YOU YOU ALL PROVIDE

1:17:28 IN HELPING BUILD HELPING BUILD

1:17:31 A STRONGER AND BETTER BOSTON

1:17:33 AND, UM, BILL, I RESPECT THE

1:17:39 WORK YOU'RE DOING IN ESPECIALLY

1:17:41 IN EAST BOSTON ON TREE CANOPY

1:17:44 ISSUES AS COUNCILOR MURPHY

1:17:47 MENTIONED.

1:17:47 THAT'S AN ISSUE I'VE BEEN

1:17:49 FOCUSED ON IN CHINATOWN WE HAVE

1:17:51 THE LOWEST TREE CANOPY IN THE

1:17:53 CITY.

1:17:54 UM, BUT I'M WORKING TO GET MORE

1:17:56 TREES UM, THERE AND I KNOW CARL

1:17:59 YOU MENTIONED AS A SOCIAL

1:18:02 WORKER BUT YOU ALSO HIGHLIGHTED

1:18:04 THE ASTHMA RATES OF MANY

1:18:06 NEIGHBORHOODS.

1:18:07 UM, AND THAT'S ALSO PART OF THE

1:18:10 PROCESS OF OF LOOKING AT HOW WE

1:18:12 MOVE FORWARD IN BUILDING

1:18:14 BUILDING A STRONGER BOSTON.

1:18:16 AND I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE,

1:18:18 UH, PATRICK WITH A TREMENDOUS

1:18:21 RESPECT FOR AND HIS FAMILY FOR

1:18:23 A LOT OF YEARS ON NOT JUST ON

1:18:27 LABOR ISSUES BUT REALLY

1:18:30 ADVOCATING FOR SOCIAL AND

1:18:31 ECONOMIC JUSTICE FOR ALL

1:18:33 PEOPLE.

1:18:33 SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO

1:18:34 TO ALL THREE OF YOU.

1:18:36 UM, LET ME LET ME START WITH

1:18:39 LET ME START WITH CARLA AND.

1:18:43 RESPECT RESPECT THE WORK YOU

1:18:45 DO.

1:18:45 AS A AS A SOCIAL WORKER AND THE

1:18:47 TRAINING THAT YOU HAVE HAD BUT

1:18:49 KNOWING KNOWING MANY

1:18:51 NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE HIGH ASTHMA

1:18:54 RATES.

1:18:55 RESPIRATORY RATES.

1:18:56 AND BILL KNOWS THIS ALSO AND

1:18:58 PATRICK DOES TELL UM BUT HOW DO

1:19:00 YOU FACTOR IN UM HOW A BUILDING

1:19:04 MIGHT BE BUILT WHETHER IT'S.

1:19:07 MATERIALS.

1:19:08 THE LOCATION, ANY CHANGES

1:19:10 UPGRADES, HVAC SYSTEMS AND I'LL

1:19:13 ASK ALL OF YOU BUT HOW DO YOU

1:19:14 FACTOR THAT IN KNOWING THAT

1:19:17 THIS NEIGHBORHOOD MIGHT BE IN A

1:19:19 HIGH IN A NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A

1:19:20 HIGH CONCENTRATION OF ASTHMA OR

1:19:22 .

1:19:23 RESPIRATORY RESPIRATORY ISSUES?

1:19:25 SO I'M NOT REALLY THAT FAMILIAR

1:19:27 WITH BUILDING MATERIALS.

1:19:29 YEAH.

1:19:29 UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S

1:19:31 SOMETHING THAT UM HAS TO BE

1:19:33 CONSIDERED AND UM I THINK

1:19:35 COMMUNITY INPUT IS IMPORTANT

1:19:36 BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A

1:19:38 DIFFERENT TYPE OF ALLERGY FOR

1:19:39 DIFFERENT THINGS.

1:19:40 UM, AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S

1:19:42 SOMETHING TO REALLY THINK

1:19:42 ABOUT.

1:19:43 AND I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN UM

1:19:44 ADVOCATING A LOT ABOUT UM, YOU

1:19:46 KNOW, A LOT OF THE UM I MEAN

1:19:48 CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH LIKE

1:19:49 MICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

1:19:51 AND SO THOSE THINGS WE AREN'T

1:19:52 ALLERGIC TO MICE, YOU KNOW?

1:19:53 AND SO UM, WE HAVE TO CONSIDER

1:19:55 WHAT'S GOING UP, HOW CONDENSED

1:19:57 THE AREAS ARE.

1:19:58 IS THERE SPACE TO PUT TRASH

1:19:59 CANS OUT?

1:19:59 ALL OF THOSE THINGS NEED TO BE

1:20:01 CONSIDERED, UM, BECAUSE IT

1:20:02 AFFECTS US ALL IN DIFFERENT

1:20:03 WAYS.

1:20:04 UM, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW,

1:20:06 ESPECIALLY IN MY COMMUNITY

1:20:07 WHERE YOU KNOW, THE AIR QUALITY

1:20:08 IS POOR AND LIFE EXPECT

1:20:10 EXPECTANCY DECREASES IN OUR

1:20:11 NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE I WALK, YOU

1:20:12 KNOW, A CASTLE ISLAND OR UM I

1:20:14 WALK IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND

1:20:15 I CAN FEEL IN MY LUNGS THE

1:20:17 DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WALKING OVER

1:20:19 THERE AND WALKING ON BLUE HILL

1:20:20 AVE IN MY COMMUNITY.

1:20:21 AND SO UM, I THINK THAT THOSE

1:20:23 ARE THINGS THAT ARE EXTREMELY

1:20:24 IMPORTANT FOR US TO CONSIDER.

1:20:26 BUT AGAIN IT'S CAN YOU KNOW,

1:20:28 EVERY INDIVIDUAL HAS A SLIGHTLY

1:20:30 DIFFERENT KIND OF ALLERGY OR I

1:20:31 MAY IMPACT THEM MORE THE CATS

1:20:33 AFFECT ME MORE AND YOU KNOW,

1:20:34 MIGHT YOU KNOW, CLOSE UP MY

1:20:36 LUNGS MORE THAN THAN BEING

1:20:37 AROUND A DOG YOU KNOW AND SO

1:20:39 SAME THING WITH BUILDINGS AND

1:20:40 BUILDING MATERIALS AND UM

1:20:42 VENTILATION AND ALL OF THAT.

1:20:43 THINK ABOUT OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS

1:20:45 AND ALSO YOU KNOW THAT BEING A

1:20:47 PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENT AND THE

1:20:49 LACK OF VENTILATION THERE YOU

1:20:51 KNOW, HOT SUMMER DAYS, NO AC

1:20:52 ALL OF THOSE THINGS UM AFFECT

1:20:54 US AS WELL.

1:20:55 SO JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THOSE

1:20:56 THINGS, YOU KNOW?

1:20:57 THANK YOU.

1:20:58 COME ON.

1:21:00 YEAH I MEAN UM CHILDHOOD ASTHMA

1:21:02 IS A IS IS IS A BIG BIG

1:21:05 CONCERN.

1:21:05 EAST BOSTON HAS ONE OF THE

1:21:07 HIGHEST CHILDHOOD ASTHMA RATES

1:21:08 IN THE STATE.

1:21:09 UM, LOGAN AIRPORT DOESN'T HELP

1:21:12 BEING RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

1:21:13 I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO

1:21:14 SEE, UM, THE MASSPORT IN FRONT

1:21:16 OF THE EPA BUT I MEAN OTHER

1:21:18 PROJECTS THAT YOU WEIGH UM,

1:21:21 DECISION IN TERMS OF WHETHER

1:21:22 YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD ON

1:21:23 THEM OR NOT ARE GOING TO BE

1:21:24 DIFFERENT.

1:21:25 RIGHT?

1:21:25 SO IF UM WE HAVE A PROJECT IN

1:21:27 FRONT OF US THAT'S A SMALL UH,

1:21:29 PROJECT THAT DOESN'T HAVE AN

1:21:30 OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO

1:21:31 INSTALL, YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT

1:21:33 TYPE OF HEPA FILTERS, UM,

1:21:35 THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT

1:21:36 FROM A LARGER PROJECT WHERE

1:21:37 SOME FILTERING, YOU KNOW, CAN

1:21:39 IMPROVE UM, YOU KNOW, THE THE

1:21:41 AIR THE QUALITY OF AIR THAT THE

1:21:42 RESIDENTS ARE GOING TO BE

1:21:43 BREATHING.

1:21:43 UM, WE GO BACK TO TREES AGAIN.

1:21:46 UM I MEAN TREES ARE KNOWN TO BE

1:21:48 ABLE TO SEQUESTER CARBON AND

1:21:49 HELP WITH ASTHMA RELATED ISSUES

1:21:51 .

1:21:52 UM, SO IT'S NOT A BIG ASK FOR

1:21:55 THESE DEVELOPERS TO PUT A PLANT

1:21:56 A TREE IN FRONT OF THEIR UNITS.

1:21:58 UM, I'VE WORKED WITH DEVELOPERS

1:22:00 IN EAST BOSTON AND NOW THEY'RE

1:22:02 ATTORNEYS BASICALLY BEFORE THEY

1:22:04 GO BEFORE THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD

1:22:05 ASSOCIATIONS KNOW THAT I'M

1:22:07 GOING TO BE ASKING THE QUESTION

1:22:08 CAN WE FIT A TREE ON THE

1:22:09 SIDEWALK?

1:22:10 AND IT HAPPENS MOST OF THE TIME

1:22:11 BECAUSE IT'S A ROUNDING ERROR

1:22:13 THE SIZE OF THE BUDGETS FOR

1:22:14 SOME OF THESE DEVELOPMENTS TO

1:22:15 PLANT A TREE IS GOING TO COST A

1:22:17 THOUSAND COUPLE THOUSAND

1:22:18 DOLLARS.

1:22:19 SO UM I WOULD BE ADVOCATING FOR

1:22:20 TREES.

1:22:21 I HAVE DONE SO IN ZBA MEETINGS

1:22:23 BEFORE THAT FOR DEVELOPMENTS IN

1:22:25 EAST BOSTON WHERE I KNEW THAT

1:22:27 THERE WAS DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS

1:22:28 ON THE BOOKS AND ARE ON THE

1:22:29 AGENDA, UM, THAT POTENTIALLY

1:22:31 COULD FIT A STREET TREE AND

1:22:32 IT'S AN EASY ASK UM, BECAUSE

1:22:34 MOST OF THE TIME THE SIDEWALKS

1:22:36 ARE DUG UP ANYWAY, RIGHT.

1:22:37 FOR UTILITIES.

1:22:38 SO TO PUT IN A COUPLE OF UM

1:22:40 TREE PITS IS NOT A BIG ASK.

1:22:42 SO THAT'S ONE WAY I THINK THAT

1:22:44 WE CAN ADDRESS, YOU KNOW,

1:22:45 HELPING TO IMPROVE THE ASTHMA

1:22:47 CHILDHOOD ASTHMA LEVEL IN EAST

1:22:48 BOSTON AND THROUGHOUT THE CITY.

1:22:51 I'LL BE ADVOCATING FOR THAT IN

1:22:52 EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD.

1:22:54 YEAH.

1:22:55 SO UM GREEN SPACE NUMBER ONE

1:22:58 IS IS UH PROBABLY THE BIGGEST

1:23:01 PRIORITY IN REDUCING ASTHMA

1:23:03 RATES?

1:23:04 I I'M THE PARENT OF ONE CHILD

1:23:05 WITH ASTHMA.

1:23:06 UM, SO, UH, AS FAR AS BUILDING

1:23:09 MATERIALS, UM, IT'S NOT NOT SO

1:23:11 MUCH THE ACTUAL MATERIALS THAT

1:23:13 GO INTO THE BUILDING IS AS MUCH

1:23:15 AS THE UM THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE

1:23:17 PUT IN PLACE INSIDE THE

1:23:18 BUILDING.

1:23:18 UM, YOU HAVE GREEN LEAD

1:23:21 BUILDINGS.

1:23:21 YOU HAVE YOU HAVE CERTAIN AND

1:23:23 FOR THE MOST PART THE

1:23:24 MASSACHUSETTS BUILDING CODE IS

1:23:25 VERY, VERY GOOD FOR UM THE

1:23:28 ACTUAL BREATHING AND

1:23:29 RESPIRATORY HEALTH OF CHILDREN

1:23:30 AND PEOPLE IN GENERAL.

1:23:32 NO THANK YOU BILL THANK YOU CAR

1:23:34 AND THANK YOU.

1:23:36 PATRICK I, I DO SOMETIMES UM.

1:23:42 FOCUS A LOT OF MY ATTENTION ON

1:23:45 ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE.

1:23:46 ISSUES UM AND AND I'M GLAD I'M

1:23:49 GLAD TO KNOW THAT YOU HAVE UM

1:23:53 YOU TAKE THIS AS SERIOUSLY AS

1:23:55 WELL AND I KNOW THAT'S PART

1:23:58 OF THE DISCUSSION IS THE IMPACT

1:24:00 DEVELOPMENT HAS HAS ON THE

1:24:02 ENVIRONMENT AND.

1:24:06 MY MY ONE OF THE REASONS I

1:24:09 HIGHLIGHTED IT NOT JUST BECAUSE

1:24:10 CHINATOWN IS ONE OF THE HIGHEST

1:24:12 ASTHMA RATES OF ANY

1:24:13 NEIGHBORHOOD IN THIS IN THE

1:24:15 STATE REALLY UM ALONG WITH

1:24:17 ROXBURY.

1:24:18 UM, BUT.

1:24:20 I WAS.

1:24:20 EXPOSED WHEN I WAS IN THE

1:24:22 MILITARY TO A UM TO.

1:24:24 AN AREA WHERE.

1:24:25 WE WERE BREATHING IN TOXIC.

1:24:26 TOXIC FUMES.

1:24:28 AND WHEN I LEFT BEFORE I LEFT I

1:24:31 DIDN'T HAVE ASTHMA AND WHEN I

1:24:32 CAME BACK I HAD ASTHMA.

1:24:34 BUT I DO KNOW IT IMPACTS

1:24:37 ESPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE AND

1:24:38 COMMUNITIES OF COLOR IN BOSTON.

1:24:41 AND I DO SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON

1:24:44 PUBLIC PUBLIC HEALTH.

1:24:45 UM, BUT LET ME LET ME JUST ASK

1:24:47 ONE FINAL QUESTION IF I MAY UH,

1:24:49 MADAM CHAIR, UM TO.

1:24:52 TO ALL THREE JUST TELL ME WHAT

1:24:53 .

1:24:54 YOUR GENERAL PHILOSOPHY MIGHT.

1:24:56 BE IN TERMS OF BALANCING

1:25:00 COMMUNITY INPUT BALANCING

1:25:02 BUSINESS INPUT, BALANCING

1:25:05 ENVIRONMENTAL INPUT, BALANCING

1:25:07 WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY,

1:25:08 WHAT'S BEST FOR THE

1:25:09 NEIGHBORHOOD, WHAT'S BEST FOR

1:25:11 THE ECONOMY, HOW DO YOU HOW HOW

1:25:12 WILL YOU.

1:25:14 FACTOR ALL OF THOSE.

1:25:16 UM INTO.

1:25:17 YOUR DECISION?

1:25:18 WHAT IS YOUR GENERAL PHILOSOPHY

1:25:20 ABOUT HOW HOW YOU CAN MOVE

1:25:21 FORWARD WITH THE DECISION

1:25:22 KNOWING.

1:25:23 ALL OF THOSE.

1:25:24 SEGMENTS ARE IMPORTANT?

1:25:27 YEAH.

1:25:28 I VIEW THE ROLE ALMOST LIKE

1:25:29 A JUDGE.

1:25:29 I MEAN YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO

1:25:31 SIT AND LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND

1:25:33 WHAT THE YOU KNOW, THE PURPOSE

1:25:35 OF UNDERSTANDING WHAT SOMEBODY

1:25:36 IS TRYING TO SAY, UH, AND WEIGH

1:25:38 TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY UM,

1:25:40 GIVEN THE FACTS WEIGH WHAT THE

1:25:42 RIGHT DECISION WOULD BE.

1:25:43 SO AGAIN, IT'S AN EYE ON A CASE

1:25:45 BY CASE BASIS BUT YOU JUST HAVE

1:25:48 TO REALLY KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN

1:25:50 AND YOU KNOW, TAKE INTO

1:25:51 CONSIDERATION WHAT EACH PARTY,

1:25:53 UM, YOU KNOW, HAS TO SAY.

1:25:55 UM, SO YEAH, IT'S.

1:25:57 A LITTLE MYSELF.

1:25:58 YEAH.

1:25:59 SO UM, AS FAR AS MYSELF, UM

1:26:02 ,IN MY DAY JOB I HAPPEN TO

1:26:04 HAVE TO NOT SO MUCH WITH

1:26:05 ZONING.

1:26:06 I HAVE TO DO THIS A LOT IN IN

1:26:07 DIFFERENT ASPECTS.

1:26:08 RIGHT.

1:26:08 SO, UM, YOU MAY INVOLVE A

1:26:10 PROBLEM ON A JOB SITE AND YOU

1:26:12 HAVE SIX DIFFERENT PEOPLE

1:26:13 TELLING YOU WHAT'S GOING ON.

1:26:14 RIGHT?

1:26:15 SO YOU HAVE SAY ON A DIFFERENT

1:26:17 ON A PROJECT YOU WOULD HAVE THE

1:26:18 HOMEOWNER YOU WOULD HAVE THE

1:26:19 PERSON APPLYING FOR ZONING

1:26:20 RELIEF, YOU WOULD HAVE THEIR

1:26:21 DIRECTOR BUT AS YOU WOULD HAVE

1:26:22 NON DIRECTED BODIES IN THE

1:26:24 NEIGHBORHOOD YOU WOULD HAVE A

1:26:25 CIVIC ASSOCIATION.

1:26:27 YOU WOULD HAVE MAYBE A

1:26:29 DEVELOPER DOWN THE STREET

1:26:30 THAT'S LOOKING TO DEVELOP A UH

1:26:32 PROJECT AS WELL.

1:26:34 UM YOU DO HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE

1:26:36 FACTS AND INTO EFFECT AND UM

1:26:37 YOU NEED TO WEIGH THEM IN ON

1:26:40 ONE PROJECT.

1:26:41 IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING MIGHT BE

1:26:42 A LITTLE MORE IMPORTANT THAN ON

1:26:43 THE OTHER PROJECT AND AT THE

1:26:45 END OF THE DAY YOU HAVE TO DO

1:26:46 YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE VOTERS

1:26:47 WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY

1:26:49 AS A WHOLE.

1:26:49 UM, WHAT'S BEST FOR THE CITY?

1:26:52 UM, AND WHAT'S WHAT'S BEST FOR

1:26:53 THE ABUTTERS UM I MEAN IT'S NOT

1:26:55 EVERY PROJECT IS DIFFERENT,

1:26:57 RIGHT?

1:26:57 AND UH IT MIGHT BE SIX INCHES

1:27:00 OF ZONING RELIEF ON HEIGHT OR

1:27:02 IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING MAJOR.

1:27:03 IT MIGHT BE 40FT OF ZONING

1:27:04 RELIEF ON HEIGHT.

1:27:06 SO UM, EVERY PROJECT IS

1:27:08 DIFFERENT JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT

1:27:11 ALWAYS THE SAME COOKIE CUTTER

1:27:11 PROJECT.

1:27:12 IT'S NOT.

1:27:14 UM I THINK ME I WANT TO ADD A

1:27:16 LITTLE BIT ABOUT UM, WHAT

1:27:17 COUNCILMEMBER HAD UM ASKED

1:27:19 EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE

1:27:20 INVOLVEMENT OF ENS IN THESE

1:27:22 PROCESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

1:27:23 AND SO I THINK IN MY EXPERIENCE

1:27:26 I HAVE SAT IN ON UM COMMUNITY

1:27:28 MEETINGS WHERE THE PROJECT

1:27:30 DIRECTLY IMPACTED ME.

1:27:32 I WAS THE HOMEOWNER, UH,

1:27:33 DEVELOPER CAME INTO UM AND YOU

1:27:36 KNOW, JUST APPEARED IN WAS

1:27:37 FILING FOR A VARIANCE TO BUILD

1:27:38 IN MY WHAT I THOUGHT WAS MY

1:27:40 LAND.

1:27:41 UM AND SO I SAT IN THAT MEETING

1:27:43 QUIETLY LISTENING TO MY

1:27:44 NEIGHBORS TO SEE WHAT THEIR

1:27:45 FEEDBACK WAS FIRST BEFORE

1:27:47 SHARING THAT THIS DIRECTLY

1:27:49 IMPACTED ME BECAUSE I WANTED TO

1:27:50 SEE HOW YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR

1:27:52 THOUGHTS WERE, BUT ALSO BEEN

1:27:53 PART OF CONVERSATIONS WITH MY

1:27:55 NEIGHBORS UM, WHERE YOU KNOW

1:27:56 THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT A UNIT

1:27:57 GOING UP OR OUT, YOU KNOW, AS

1:27:58 SMALL AS 4 TO 12 UNITS.

1:28:01 UM, AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT

1:28:02 PARKING AND I'M TAKING INTO

1:28:03 CONSIDERATION THE FAMILIES OR

1:28:04 THE PEOPLE WITH INTELLECTUAL

1:28:05 DISABILITIES THAT NEED HOUSING.

1:28:07 AND SO THAT'S THE WAY THAT I

1:28:09 VIEW THINGS.

1:28:09 UM, I ALSO THINK ABOUT, YOU

1:28:11 KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS WHO ARE

1:28:12 ALREADY THERE, HOW THAT IMPACTS

1:28:13 THEM BUT ALSO THE BUSINESSES

1:28:16 AND UM THE COMMUNITIES UM, AND

1:28:18 YOU KNOW, INSTITUTIONS AND

1:28:19 DEVELOPERS THAT ARE INVESTING

1:28:21 IN THEM AS WELL.

1:28:22 AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S HOW

1:28:23 I WOULD APPROACH IT AND WITH

1:28:24 UH, YOU KNOW, AS A SOCIAL

1:28:26 WORKER AND AS A RESEARCHER, I

1:28:27 LIKE TO GATHER ALL INFORMATION

1:28:28 SO THAT I CAN MAKE AN INFORMED

1:28:30 DECISION.

1:28:30 UM, BUT ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW,

1:28:32 THINKING ABOUT HOW SOMETIMES,

1:28:34 YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE PERSONAL

1:28:35 INTEREST THAT UH, MAY NOT BE

1:28:38 THE BEST FOR ALL COMMUNITY

1:28:40 MEMBERS AND I KNOW THAT WE

1:28:41 CAN'T SUPPORT AND, UM, SUPPORT

1:28:44 ALL COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND NOT

1:28:46 EVERYONE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE

1:28:47 HAPPY WITH THE DECISIONS THAT

1:28:48 ARE MADE.

1:28:48 UM, THEY JUST TRYING TO MAKE AN

1:28:50 INFORMED ENOUGH DECISION THAT

1:28:51 YOU KNOW, WE ARE CONSIDERING

1:28:52 UM, EVERYONE WHO IS INVOLVED UM

1:28:55 ,AND WHAT THEIR PERSPECTIVES

1:28:56 ARE IS ON ON THOSE THINGS.

1:28:59 WELL JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU

1:29:00 TO.

1:29:00 ALL THREE.

1:29:01 I KNOW YOU'LL DO A TREMENDOUS

1:29:03 JOB ON THE ON THE ZONING BOARD

1:29:05 AND WANT TO SAY IT'S.

1:29:07 A THE.

1:29:07 OUTSTANDING APPOINTMENTS.

1:29:09 LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH

1:29:11 YOU AGAIN AND JUST WANT TO SAY

1:29:13 THANK YOU FOR YOUR ONGOING

1:29:14 COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS

1:29:16 OF BOSTON.

1:29:16 UH THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

1:29:17 THANK YOU SO MUCH,

1:29:18 COUNCILOR FLYNN.

1:29:19 UM, YOU KNOW, LAST NIGHT, UM,

1:29:21 COUNCILOR WEBER AND I HOSTED A

1:29:23 JOINT OFFICE HOUR IN MISSION

1:29:26 BECAUSE HE REPRESENTS THE BACK

1:29:27 OF MISSION HALL AND I REPRESENT

1:29:28 THE MAJORITY OF MISSION HALL

1:29:29 AND IT WAS A VERY INTERESTING

1:29:30 CONVERSATION.

1:29:31 ONE THING THAT CAME UP WAS THAT

1:29:33 THE LACK, UM, IT'S OFTEN HARD

1:29:37 FOR RESIDENTS TO SEE THAT LIKE

1:29:39 PART OF THE REASON THAT THEIR

1:29:40 PROPERTY TAXES ARE GOING UP IS

1:29:42 THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN A LOT

1:29:44 OF NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT

1:29:45 BUILT OR UM AND SO IT WAS AN

1:29:50 INTERESTING CONVERSATION

1:29:51 BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AN

1:29:52 IMPORTANT THING TO CONNECT IS

1:29:55 LIKE OBVIOUSLY WE SAW RELIEF AT

1:29:56 THE STATE'S ON IT.

1:29:58 UM AND WE FAILED UM TO GET TAX

1:30:00 RELIEF FOR RESIDENTS.

1:30:01 UM, BUT ONE THING THAT'S I

1:30:03 THINK REALLY IMPORTANT FOR

1:30:04 PEOPLE TO CONNECT IS THAT

1:30:06 SOMETIMES THE POINT OF BUILDING

1:30:08 NEW HOUSING IS TO CREATE THAT

1:30:10 NEW HOUSING THAT'S THE BENEFIT

1:30:12 OF THE HOUSING IS CREATING THAT

1:30:13 NEW HOUSING AND THEN SOMETIMES

1:30:15 THE BENEFIT OF THAT NEW HOUSING

1:30:17 IS TO RELIEVE OUR EXISTING TAX

1:30:19 BASE OF THE BURDEN.

1:30:20 UM, AND OBVIOUSLY EVERY YEAR

1:30:22 IT'S COMPOUNDING UM, YOU KNOW,

1:30:25 TAXES ARE GOING UP FOR

1:30:26 HOMEOWNERS.

1:30:26 SO I THINK THAT APPROVING NEW

1:30:28 HOUSING IS A REALLY IMPORTANT

1:30:30 PART OF THAT EQUATION THAT

1:30:31 DOESN'T OFTEN GET IT'S

1:30:33 NECESSARY DO BECAUSE YOU KNOW,

1:30:35 THE MAJORITY OF HOMEOWNERS

1:30:37 WOULD BENEFIT IF NEW HOUSING IS

1:30:39 BROUGHT ONLINE.

1:30:40 AND SO I JUST WANT TO READ THAT

1:30:42 INTO THE RECORD AND ALSO SHARE

1:30:43 THAT WITH YOU AS FOLKS WHO WILL

1:30:45 BE, YOU KNOW, CHARGED WITH

1:30:46 CONSIDERING WHETHER TO ALLOW

1:30:48 FOR CERTAIN UM, VARIANCES

1:30:50 OBVIOUSLY REPRESENTING THE WEST

1:30:52 END, BEACON HILL, BACK BAY,

1:30:53 FENWAY, MISSION HILL WE HAVE

1:30:55 VERY DIFFERENT UM OBJECTIVES

1:30:58 LIKE IN THE FENWAY WE'RE

1:30:59 GETTING SOME OF THE BIGGEST

1:31:00 VARIANCES THAT EXIST WITHIN THE

1:31:02 CITY IN TERMS OF HEIGHT AND FAR

1:31:04 AND THEN IN BEACON HILL AND

1:31:06 BACK BAY WHICH ARE UM BOTH

1:31:08 HISTORIC UM LANDMARKED, YOU

1:31:10 KNOW, COMMUNITIES UM WE HAVE A

1:31:12 VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE

1:31:14 OF YOU KNOW, UM, WE COULD BE

1:31:16 TALKING ABOUT ONE UNIT AND IT'S

1:31:17 THE SAME LEVEL AND DETAILED

1:31:19 CONVERSATION AS AS A VARIANCE

1:31:21 THAT'S HAPPENING IN THE FENWAY

1:31:22 ,UH, FOR FOR AND THAT'S WHAT

1:31:24 YOU WHAT YOU GUYS WILL ALL BE

1:31:26 SORT OF DEALING WITH IS YEAH,

1:31:28 THERE'S THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE

1:31:29 VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE THAT

1:31:31 ARE SMALL AND THEY'RE THINGS

1:31:32 THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO

1:31:33 PEOPLE AND THE CITY THAT ARE

1:31:35 BIG.

1:31:35 AND SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU

1:31:37 FOR STEPPING UP TO SERVE

1:31:38 BECAUSE UM, IT IS IT WILL NOT

1:31:41 YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT EASY TO MAKE

1:31:42 YOURSELF FREE ALL THE TIME FOR

1:31:43 ALL OF THESE MEETINGS BUT UM,

1:31:45 YOU ARE THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS

1:31:47 THAT UM, THAT WE'RE GOING TO

1:31:48 TRUST WITH UH WITH THIS NEW UM,

1:31:51 UH, ROLE.

1:31:52 SO JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL

1:31:53 FOR STEPPING FORWARD AND, UM,

1:31:56 WE LOOK FORWARD TO MOVING

1:31:57 FORWARD YOUR NOMINATIONS AT THE

1:31:58 NEXT MEETING.

1:32:00 UM, SO YOU'VE BEEN NOMINATED

1:32:02 AND THEN UM, THE CITY

1:32:03 COUNCIL HAS.

1:32:04 THE ROLE.

1:32:05 OF APPROVING UH, YOUR

1:32:06 NOMINATION.

1:32:07 SO UM SO WITH THAT, UM, DO YOU

1:32:10 DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY LAST

1:32:11 COMMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO

1:32:13 MAKE?

1:32:13 I JUST WANT TO I JUST REALIZE I

1:32:15 DIDN'T FINISH MY THOUGHT ON,

1:32:17 UM, COUNCIL WHAT I MENTIONED IN

1:32:19 TERMS OF THE ON THIS UM, SO I

1:32:21 JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT DURING

1:32:22 THOSE THOSE MEETINGS THAT WE

1:32:24 HAD IN OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS

1:32:26 OLIVE UH, MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS

1:32:27 AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

1:32:29 ASSOCIATION HAD OPPOSED THE

1:32:31 PROJECT THAT WAS GOING UP.

1:32:32 UM AND OH, AND AS HAD TAKEN UH

1:32:34 THE STANCE OF SUPPORTING THAT

1:32:36 PROJECT.

1:32:36 SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT

1:32:37 I'VE HAD THAT EXPERIENCE AS A

1:32:40 COMMUNITY MEMBER.

1:32:40 SO SORRY I SOMETIMES DON'T

1:32:42 FINISH MY WHOLE THOUGHT.

1:32:42 I WANT TO SAY THAT UM, BUT ALSO

1:32:44 WE JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU ALL

1:32:46 FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY AND

1:32:47 FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND LISTENING

1:32:48 AND FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL

1:32:50 QUESTIONS.

1:32:50 SO THANK YOU.

1:32:51 THANK YOU SO MUCH.

1:32:53 AND YEAH WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY

1:32:55 ANYTHING?

1:32:55 OH I'M.

1:32:55 SORRY I JUST HAD A QUICK

1:32:57 QUESTION.

1:32:57 UM TO KIND OF DISTINGUISH

1:32:58 BETWEEN.

1:32:59 I BELIEVE.

1:32:59 THAT THERE'S A TERM ALTERNATE

1:33:01 UM YES IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH SO

1:33:03 CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE

1:33:05 BETWEEN YEAH.

1:33:06 SO UM YOU.

1:33:07 WOULD BE CHARGED TO SET OUT A

1:33:09 MEETING IF THERE WASN'T A

1:33:10 QUORUM ESSENTIALLY.

1:33:11 BUT ALSO YOU CAN SIT IN ON ANY

1:33:13 OF THE MEETINGS SO OFTENTIMES

1:33:16 YOU YOU CAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN BE

1:33:19 THERE I I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH

1:33:21 YOU CAN INVOLVE YOURSELF IN THE

1:33:23 CONVERSATION.

1:33:23 THAT'S UP TO THE CHAIR.

1:33:24 UM, BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S

1:33:26 REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE

1:33:28 ALTERNATES UM, WHEN WE STARTED

1:33:30 WITH THIS COMMITTEE, MOST

1:33:31 OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS

1:33:32 THAT WE OVERSEE IN THIS

1:33:34 COMMITTEE WE'RE HAVING QUORUM

1:33:36 ISSUES AND THAT'S WHY I HAVE

1:33:38 ACTUALLY BEEN CHARGED AND I'VE

1:33:40 TRIED TO DO A REALLY GOOD JOB

1:33:41 OF LIKE WHEN THESE COME IN WE

1:33:43 DEAL WITH THESE WITHIN TWO

1:33:45 MONTHS WHICH IS UM BUT AGAIN

1:33:46 THERE'S A LARGE BACKLOG PEOPLE

1:33:48 GET NOMINATED AND LIKE I

1:33:50 DESCRIBED WITH UM PATRICK'S

1:33:52 NOMINATION THERE UM THERE IS

1:33:54 IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

1:33:56 THERE'S A LOT OF EVERY SINGLE

1:33:57 BOARD AND COMMISSION IS

1:33:58 CREATED ON A DIFFERENT

1:33:59 STRUCTURE.

1:34:00 SOME ARE STATE UM THEY'RE STATE

1:34:02 LAW THAT AND SO THAT'S WHY I

1:34:04 ACTUALLY READ INTO THE RECORD

1:34:05 THE UM THE LETTER THAT YOUR

1:34:07 UNION SENT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY

1:34:09 IMPORTANT THAT PEOPLE

1:34:11 UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW,

1:34:13 THESE MIGHT BE THE MAYOR'S

1:34:14 NOMINATIONS BUT SHE'S CHOOSING

1:34:16 FROM A LIST THAT A LOT

1:34:17 OF ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE AND

1:34:18 IT'S DIFFERENT ON EVERY SINGLE

1:34:20 BOARD AND COMMISSION.

1:34:21 BUT YOU KNOW, I ALSO DEAL WITH

1:34:22 THE ARCHITECTURAL COMMISSIONS

1:34:24 AND IT MIGHT BE THAT, YOU KNOW

1:34:26 ,THE MAYOR GETS FOUR CHOICES

1:34:27 AND SHE GETS TO PICK TWO OUT

1:34:30 OF THOSE FOUR THAT AN

1:34:31 ORGANIZATION PROVIDES SOME

1:34:33 OF THAT STATE UM, YOU KNOW, UH,

1:34:36 FACILITATED UM AND THAT'S

1:34:37 BECAUSE OF STATE LAW AND SOME

1:34:39 OF IT'S LOCAL.

1:34:40 UM AND IT'S BEEN VERY

1:34:41 INTERESTING I ACTUALLY SERVE AS

1:34:43 A TRUSTEE OF THE ON THE BOSTON

1:34:44 GROUNDWATER TRUST WHEN

1:34:45 COUNCILOR FLYNN WAS PRESIDENT

1:34:47 OF THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, HE

1:34:48 GAVE ME THAT SEAT ON THE

1:34:50 GROUNDWATER TRUST BECAUSE A LOT

1:34:51 OF MY DISTRICT IS UM, YOU KNOW,

1:34:53 AND A LOT OF HIS DISTRICT IS

1:34:54 THAT, UM, ON WOOD PILINGS.

1:34:56 SO AND THAT WAS UM THAT WAS IN

1:34:59 UH, I THINK A STATE UH, LAW

1:35:02 THAT THE CITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT

1:35:04 SO IT'S LIKE IT'S ALL YOU KNOW,

1:35:05 IT'S ALL VERY COMPLICATED BUT

1:35:07 YOU HAVE A VERY IMPORTANT ROLE

1:35:09 TO PLAY AND UM, THE WAY THAT

1:35:11 THIS IS ALL SET UP, UM, CAN BE

1:35:14 DIFFICULT, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR

1:35:16 EVERYONE TO MANAGE BECAUSE

1:35:17 THERE'S JUST SO MANY PEOPLE.

1:35:18 BUT WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD

1:35:19 JOB IN THIS COMMITTEE OF TRYING

1:35:21 TO MOVE FORWARD THE NOMINATION

1:35:23 SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE QUORUM

1:35:24 ISSUES.

1:35:24 UM, BUT THE ALTERNATE STEPS IN

1:35:26 WHEN THERE IS QUORUM ISSUES AND

1:35:28 UM, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO

1:35:30 FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH ALL

1:35:31 THE DECISIONS BEING MADE

1:35:32 BECAUSE YOU MAY BE CALLED TO UM

1:35:34 AND THEN WHEN THERE IS A THERE

1:35:36 MAY BE AN OPENING FOR.

1:35:38 UH.

1:35:38 YOU KNOW, UH, WHEN PEOPLE

1:35:40 RETIRE OR WHEN THEIR TERM IS UP

1:35:43 OFTEN THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE

1:35:44 WHERE SOMEONE HAS SERVED AS AN

1:35:46 ALTERNATE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS

1:35:47 AND THEN THEY MOVE UP TO TO

1:35:48 ACTUALLY SITTING ON THE ZBA.

1:35:51 SO UM SO GRATEFUL TO ALL OF YOU

1:35:53 FOR STEPPING FORWARD.

1:35:54 UM, THIS IS JUST THE YOU KNOW,

1:35:56 THE VERY BEGINNING BUT YOU GUYS

1:35:58 OF ALL HAVE A STORIED HISTORY

1:36:01 OF YOUR LEADERSHIP IN THE CITY

1:36:02 AND AND YOUR EXPERIENCE IN THE

1:36:03 CITY.

1:36:04 SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL

1:36:05 FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP.

1:36:06 AND SO WITH THAT WE HAVE NO

1:36:08 PUBLIC TESTIMONY.

1:36:09 SO WITH THAT UM, UM DOCKETS

1:36:14 151531524 UH THIS HEARING IS

1:36:16 ADJOURNED.