Community Preservation Act on October 20, 2026
2026-10-20

[0:41] IS ENRIQUE PEPEN, DISTRICT
[0:43] FIVE CITY COUNCILOR AND I AM
[0:44] THE CHAIR OF THE BOSTON CITY
[0:47] COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON COMMUNITY
[0:48] PRESERVATION ACT.
[0:50] TODAY IS OCTOBER 20TH 2026 AND
[0:53] THE EXACT TIME IS 10:39 A.M.
[0:57] THIS HEARING IS BEING RECORDED.
[0:58] IT IS ALSO BEING LIVE STREAMED
[1:02] AT BOSTON.GOV/CITY COUNCIL DASH
[1:04] TV AND BROADCAST ON XFINITY
[1:06] CHANNEL EIGHT, RCN CHANNEL 82
[1:09] AND FILES CHANNEL NINE SIX FOR
[1:12] READING.
[1:12] COMMENTS MAY BE SENT TO THE
[1:13] COMMITTEE EMAIL AT SIX KPA AT
[1:17] BOSTON GOV AND WILL BE MADE A
[1:19] PART OF THE RECORD AND
[1:19] AVAILABLE TO ALL THE COUNCILORS
[1:21] .
[1:23] PUBLIC TESTIMONY WILL BE TAKEN
[1:24] AT THE END OF THIS HEARING.
[1:25] INDIVIDUALS WILL BE CALLED ON
[1:27] IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY
[1:28] SIGNED UP AND WILL HAVE TWO
[1:29] MINUTES TO TESTIFY.
[1:31] IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN
[1:32] TESTIFYING IN PERSON, PLEASE
[1:33] ADD YOUR NAME TO THE SIGN UP
[1:35] SHEET NEAR THE ENTRANCE OF THE
[1:37] CHAMBER.
[1:37] IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO TESTIFY
[1:39] VIRTUALLY, PLEASE EMAIL OUR
[1:41] CENTRAL STAFF LIAISON RYAN
[1:43] PRATT AT RYAN ARIANA PR T AT
[1:49] BOSTON GOV.
[1:50] FOR THE LINK IN YOUR NAME WILL
[1:52] BE ADDED TO THE LIST.
[1:53] TODAY'S HEARING IS ON DOCKET
[1:55] NUMBER 1601.
[1:57] ORDER FOR A HEARING TO EXPLORE
[1:59] RAISING THE PERCENTAGE
[2:00] OF COMMUNITY PRESERVATION ACT
[2:01] FUND DEDICATED TO AFFORDABLE
[2:03] HOUSING.
[2:04] THIS MATTER WAS SPONSORED BY
[2:06] COUNCILORS BRIAN WILL ROUTE AND
[2:08] MANY ARE TO CULPEPER AND WAS
[2:10] REFERRED TO THE COMMITTEE ON
[2:12] AUGUST 26TH, 2026.
[2:16] TODAY I AM JOINED BY MY
[2:18] COLLEAGUES IN ORDER OF ARRIVAL
[2:20] COUNCILOR MURPHY.
[2:21] COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[2:23] COUNCILOR DURKAN AND
[2:24] COUNCILOR WILL ROW IF ANY ARE
[2:28] ABSENCE.
[2:28] NOPE.
[2:29] AND TODAY I'M ALSO.
[2:31] FIRST WE ARE JOINED BY THE
[2:34] DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY
[2:35] PRESERVATION TREASURY
[2:36] DEPARTMENT AND BROWN.
[2:37] UM, BUT FIRST BEFORE WE GET
[2:39] INTO THE PUBLIC TO TO THE PANEL
[2:42] ,I WANT TO GIVE THE
[2:43] OPPORTUNITY TO THE MAIN SPONSOR
[2:46] FOR AN OPENING STATEMENT.
[2:48] UH.
[2:52] THANK YOU, CHAIR.
[2:53] AND THANK YOU, UM, EXECUTIVE
[2:54] DIRECTOR BROWN FOR BEING HERE.
[2:56] UM, ALSO TO, UM, THE PUBLIC AND
[3:00] TO MY COLLEAGUES.
[3:01] I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM,
[3:02] FIRST AND FOREMOST THE WORK
[3:03] THAT THE COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[3:05] COMMITTEE AND CPA STAFF AND THE
[3:07] ADVOCATES WHO CONTINUE PUSH FOR
[3:09] INVESTMENTS IN OUR
[3:10] NEIGHBORHOODS.
[3:11] UH, WE KNOW CPA HAS DONE A LOT
[3:14] OF GOOD ACROSS OUR CITY.
[3:16] UM, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT OUR
[3:18] ARPA FUNDING IS COMING TO AN
[3:20] END.
[3:21] UH, WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S
[3:22] UNCERTAINTY AROUND STATE AND
[3:24] FEDERAL HOUSING RESOURCES.
[3:26] UH, WE KNOW THAT CONSTRUCTION
[3:27] AND BORROWING COSTS HAVE GONE
[3:30] UP AND IT'S TAKING MORE PUBLIC
[3:31] DOLLARS TO BUILD THE SAME
[3:32] AMOUNT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[3:36] WE ALSO HAVE ROUGHLY 40% OF OUR
[3:38] CPA SUPPORTED AFFORDABLE
[3:40] HOUSING PROJECTS THAT HAVEN'T
[3:42] STARTED CONSTRUCTION.
[3:43] I WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S
[3:45] HOLDING THEM UP AND WHETHER
[3:46] ADDITIONAL FUNDING CAN HELP.
[3:48] UH CAMBRIDGE DEDICATES 80% OF A
[3:51] CPA AND FUNDING TO AFFORDABLE
[3:52] HOUSING.
[3:53] BOSTON'S GOAL IS 50% AND I'M
[3:56] NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE MOVE UH,
[3:58] TO 80% LIKE CAMBRIDGE IS DOING,
[4:00] BUT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT
[4:02] POSSIBLY AND THAT'S WHAT THIS
[4:03] CONVERSATION IS ABOUT IS IF WE
[4:05] SHOULD BE LOOKING AT 60 OR 70%
[4:08] AND WHAT WOULD THOSE ADDITIONAL
[4:09] DOLLARS MEANS FOR FAMILIES
[4:11] TRYING TO FIND AN AFFORDABLE
[4:13] HOME OR BECOME HOMEOWNERS HERE
[4:15] IN THE CITY OF BOSTON?
[4:16] ONE THING THAT STOOD OUT TO
[4:18] ME IS THAT THE COMMUNITY
[4:19] PRESERVATION PLAN ALREADY
[4:21] ALLOWS US TO REVISIT THESE
[4:23] ALLOCATION BASED ON CHANGING
[4:25] NEEDS.
[4:26] SO WHAT ACTUALLY CAUSES US TO
[4:28] USE THAT FLEXIBILITY IF WE HAVE
[4:30] MORE PARKS THAT NEED MAJOR
[4:32] IMPROVEMENT, DOES THAT JUSTIFY
[4:34] INCREASE IN FUNDING FOR PARKS
[4:35] AND IF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS
[4:37] BECOMING MORE EXPENSIVE TO
[4:39] BUILD TO THERE, THAT ALSO BE A
[4:41] REASON TO RECONSIDER OUR
[4:42] HOUSING ALLOCATION BECAUSE IF
[4:44] THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE'RE FACING
[4:46] TODAY AREN'T ENOUGH TO REVISIT
[4:48] THE FORMULA, THEN WHAT WOULD
[4:50] BE?
[4:50] THAT'S WHY I'M HOPING THAT WE
[4:52] CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND THAT
[4:53] TODAY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE
[4:55] CONVERSATION.
[4:55] THANK YOU.
[4:56] THANK YOU COUNCILOR.
[4:57] OKAY I'M GOING TO AS A CHAIR
[5:00] JUST WAVE EVERYONE'S OPENING
[5:02] STATEMENTS AND JUST GO TO Q&A
[5:04] AND I'M GOING TO NOW GIVE.
[5:07] US A MAJOR PRESENTATION.
[5:09] UM YEAH I'M JUST WAIVING
[5:11] EVERYONE'S OPENING STATEMENTS.
[5:12] FOR MY COLLEAGUES TO LET.
[5:14] YOU KNOW.
[5:14] NO NO NO.
[5:15] UM, NOW WE'RE GOING TO GET A
[5:18] PRESENTATION FROM ADRIAN BROWN.
[5:20] FOR YOURS.
[5:22] THANK YOU.
[5:24] SO THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN PEPEN
[5:25] AND MEMBERS OF THE BOSTON CITY
[5:28] COUNCIL.
[5:28] I HAVE THE HONOR OF SERVING AS
[5:30] A DIRECTOR OF THE COMMUNITY
[5:31] PRESERVATION OFFICE FOR THE
[5:32] PAST EIGHT AND A HALF YEARS.
[5:34] I HAVE WORKED WITH THE
[5:35] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[5:35] COMMITTEE AND I'VE OVERSEEN ALL
[5:37] NINE FUNDING ROUNDS.
[5:39] IT HAS BEEN A PRIVILEGE TO
[5:40] SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF BOSTON
[5:42] AND HELP ADVANCE PROJECTS AND
[5:43] PRESERVE OUR HISTORY, EXPAND
[5:45] HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND
[5:47] IMPROVE COMMUNITY SPACES ACROSS
[5:49] THE CITY.
[5:49] EACH FUNDING ROUND REQUIRES
[5:51] THOUGHTFUL DELIBERATION AND
[5:53] DIFFICULT DECISIONS BY THE
[5:54] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[5:55] COMMITTEE.
[5:56] WE ARE GRATEFUL FOR THE
[5:57] COMMITTEE'S UNWAVERING
[5:59] COMMITMENT AND HIGHLY
[6:00] COMPETITIVE PROCESS AND THEIR
[6:01] DEDICATION TO ENSURING THAT CPA
[6:04] FUNDS DELIVER MEANING AND
[6:05] LASTING BENEFITS TO BOSTON
[6:07] NEIGHBORHOODS.
[6:08] TODAY I'VE BEEN ASKED TO JOIN
[6:10] THE HEARING TO DISCUSS THE
[6:11] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[6:12] COMMITTEE'S ALLOCATION
[6:14] OF FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE
[6:15] HOUSING.
[6:16] I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
[6:17] SPEND THE NEXT TEN MINUTES
[6:19] PROVIDING THE COUNCIL WITH AN
[6:20] OVERVIEW OF THE COMMUNITY
[6:21] PRESERVATION ACT PROGRAM, THE
[6:22] FUNDING PROCESS AND HOW CPA
[6:24] RESOURCES HAVE BEEN DISTRIBUTED
[6:26] ACROSS ALL THREE CATEGORIES.
[6:30] EACH YEAR.
[6:31] STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT 10%
[6:33] OF CPA FUNDS MUST BE RESERVED
[6:36] FOR THE THREE CORE CATEGORIES
[6:37] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, HISTORIC
[6:40] PRESERVATION AND OPEN SPACE AND
[6:41] RECREATION.
[6:42] IN ADDITION, UP TO 5% OF ANNUAL
[6:45] CPA REVENUE MAY BE USED FOR
[6:47] ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS.
[6:48] CPA FUNDINGS ARE RESTRICTED TO
[6:50] ELIGIBLE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS
[6:52] PROJECTS THAT CANNOT BE USED
[6:53] FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE
[6:55] OPERATIONS, STAFFING OR
[6:56] PROGRAMING EXPENSES.
[6:59] ELIGIBLE APPLICANTS INCLUDE
[7:01] PUBLIC AGENCIES, NONPROFIT
[7:03] ORGANIZATIONS, PRIVATE ENTITIES
[7:05] AND FOR PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
[7:08] ALL PROPOSED PROJECTS MUST MEET
[7:10] THE DEFINITIONS AND
[7:11] REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED IN
[7:12] CHAPTER 44 B, WHICH ARE LISTED
[7:14] HERE FOR REFERENCE.
[7:16] UNDERSTANDING THE ALLOWABLE
[7:17] USES OF CPA FUNDS IS ESSENTIAL
[7:20] FOR APPLICANTS TO SUCCESSFULLY
[7:21] COMPLETE THEIR SUBMISSIONS TO
[7:24] SUPPORT THEM.
[7:24] WE PRIORITIZE EARLY AND
[7:26] FREQUENT ENGAGEMENT EDUCATING
[7:28] APPLICANTS ON THESE ALLOWABLE
[7:30] USES AND SO THAT THEY ARE WELL
[7:33] PREPARED.
[7:33] BEFORE BEGINNING THE
[7:35] ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION
[7:36] PROCESS.
[7:38] TO DATE, 438 PROJECTS HAVE BEEN
[7:42] AWARDED WITH CPA FUNDS.
[7:43] MORE THAN 259 MILLION ACROSS
[7:47] BOSTON NEIGHBORHOODS.
[7:48] YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT THE
[7:50] FUNDING DISTRIBUTIONS FOR EACH
[7:52] FUNDING ROUND FROM 2018 THROUGH
[7:55] 2026.
[7:57] SINCE ITS CREATION, CPA FUNDED
[8:00] PROJECTS HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED
[8:01] IN EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD
[8:02] SUPPORTING 66 AFFORDABLE
[8:03] HOUSING PROJECTS, 207 HISTORIC
[8:06] PRESERVATION PROJECTS AND 165
[8:09] OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
[8:11] PROJECTS.
[8:13] THE FOLLOWING TABLE SHOWS THE
[8:15] DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDING
[8:16] ALLOCATIONS ACROSS ALL THREE
[8:18] CATEGORIES.
[8:19] OVER THE LAST NINE FUNDING
[8:20] ROUNDS, AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[8:22] REPRESENTS 52% OF THE TOTAL CPA
[8:25] FUNDING.
[8:26] THIS REFLECTS THE SIGNIFICANT
[8:27] INVESTMENT OFTEN REQUIRED TO
[8:29] PRESERVE AND CREATE AFFORDABLE
[8:30] HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, HISTORIC
[8:33] PRESERVATION AND OPEN SPACE AND
[8:35] RECREATION RECEIVED 24% OF THE
[8:37] TOTAL CPA FUNDING OVER THE PAST
[8:41] NINE FUNDING ROUNDS.
[8:42] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[8:43] COMMITTEE HAS CONSISTENTLY
[8:45] PRIORITIZED AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
[8:47] COMMITTING 50% OF AVAILABLE
[8:48] FUNDING TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[8:51] CATEGORY WHILE CONTINUING TO
[8:52] INVEST IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[8:54] AND OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
[8:56] PROJECTS.
[8:57] THIS DATA DEMONSTRATES THE
[8:59] COMMITTEE'S BALANCED APPROACH
[9:01] TO MEETING THE GOALS OF THE CPA
[9:02] PLAN WHILE ADDRESSING THE
[9:04] BOSTON'S ONGOING AFFORDABLE
[9:06] HOUSING NEEDS.
[9:10] EVERY CPA INVESTMENT LEAVES A
[9:12] LASTING LEGACY SUPPORTING
[9:14] HOUSING, PRESERVING HISTORY AND
[9:15] ENHANCING AND CREATING
[9:17] RECREATION SPACES THAT BENEFIT
[9:19] RESIDENTS AND GENERATIONS TO
[9:20] COME.
[9:21] IN THE RECENT MONTHS WE HAVE
[9:22] SEVERAL NEW RECREATION PROJECTS
[9:24] THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
[9:26] FOR EXAMPLE THE CHARLESTOWN
[9:28] PEACE PARK A CREATION OF A NEW
[9:29] COMMUNITY PARK SERVING
[9:31] RESIDENTS OF CHARLESTOWN,
[9:32] BETHANY PARK BETHANY CHURCH
[9:34] PARK A DEVELOPMENT OF A NEW
[9:36] PUBLIC PARK IN ROSLINDALE ON
[9:38] THE LAND OWNED BY BETHANY
[9:39] CHURCH NOW OPEN TO THE
[9:41] COMMUNITY.
[9:45] ROXBURY COMMUNITY COLLEGE
[9:46] POCKET PARK.
[9:47] CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW A NEW
[9:49] PARK BY RCC FOR THE COMMUNITY
[9:52] USE AND ENJOYMENT.
[9:55] AND NORWELL PARK GROUNDBREAKING
[9:58] HAPPENED A FEW WEEKS AGO.
[10:01] THIS IS A 1.9 MILLION CPA
[10:03] INVESTMENT.
[10:04] CPA FUNDING SUPPORTED THE
[10:06] ACQUISITION OF THREE PARCELS
[10:07] THAT WILL SUPPORT THE
[10:08] CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW
[10:09] NEIGHBORHOOD PARK IN
[10:11] DORCHESTER.
[10:13] HISTORIC PRESERVATION FUNDING
[10:14] PLAYS A CRITICAL ROLE IN
[10:16] MAINTAINING THE CHARACTER,
[10:17] HERITAGE AND CULTURAL IDENTITY
[10:19] OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
[10:20] ENSURING THAT SIGNIFICANT
[10:21] BUILDINGS, LANDMARKS AND
[10:23] CULTURAL RESOURCES REMAIN
[10:25] ACCESSIBLE AND MEANINGFUL TO
[10:26] RESIDENTS AND VISITORS ALIKE.
[10:29] FOR EXAMPLE, THE 12TH BAPTIST
[10:31] CHURCH FOUNDED IN 1840 RECEIVED
[10:33] CPA FUNDING TO REMOVE FAILING
[10:35] EXTERIOR MATERIALS.
[10:36] RESTORE THE BUILDING'S ORIGINAL
[10:38] WOOD CLADDING AND HELPING TO
[10:40] PRESERVE AN IMPORTANT PIECE
[10:41] OF BOSTON'S RELIGIOUS AND
[10:43] CULTURAL HISTORY.
[10:45] THE UNITED SOUTH END
[10:47] SETTLEMENTS RECEIVED FUNDING
[10:48] FOR CRITICAL DRAINAGE, ROOFING
[10:49] AND MASONRY REPAIRS.
[10:51] THESE IMPROVEMENTS HELP PROTECT
[10:53] THE HISTORIC COMMUNITY AND THE
[10:56] HISTORIC COMMUNITY INSTITUTION
[10:58] THAT HAS PROVIDED EDUCATIONAL
[11:00] ENRICHMENT AND SUPPORT SERVICES
[11:02] TO BOSTON FAMILIES FOR DECADES
[11:04] .
[11:06] THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR
[11:08] AFRO-AMERICAN ARTIST HAS
[11:10] RECEIVED THREE CPA GRANTS TO
[11:11] SUPPORT MASONRY ROOF
[11:13] RESTORATION, STRUCTURAL
[11:15] STABILIZATION AND ADA
[11:17] ACCESSIBILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
[11:18] THESE IMPROVEMENTS ARE
[11:19] ADVANCING A MULTI-PHASE
[11:20] RESTORATION EFFORT TO PRESERVE
[11:22] THIS ICONIC CULTURAL LANDMARK.
[11:26] MOST RECENTLY, THE OLD STATE
[11:28] HOUSE RECEIVED CPA FUNDING FOR
[11:30] CRITICAL STRUCTURAL REPAIRS.
[11:32] AS ONE OF BOSTON'S MOST
[11:33] SIGNIFICANT HISTORIC LANDMARKS
[11:35] AND A MAJOR DESTINATION FOR
[11:37] RESIDENTS AND VISITORS.
[11:38] THESE IMPROVEMENTS WILL HELP
[11:39] ENSURE THE BUILDING REMAINS
[11:40] SAFE, ACCESSIBLE AND PRESERVED
[11:42] FOR YEARS TO COME.
[11:45] TO DATE, CPA HAS AWARDED 14
[11:48] MILLION TO THE ACQUISITION
[11:49] OPPORTUNITY PROGRAM HELPING
[11:51] MISSION DRIVEN DEVELOPERS
[11:53] PURCHASE TENANT OCCUPIED
[11:54] BUILDINGS BEFORE CASH BUYERS
[11:56] AND PRIVATE INVESTORS.
[11:58] REDUCING DISPLACEMENT AND
[11:59] PRESERVING AFFORDABILITY.
[12:01] THIS PROGRAM HAS RECENTLY BEEN
[12:04] RECOGNIZED FOR THE 2026 IVERY
[12:06] PRIZE FOR HOUSING AFFORDABILITY
[12:08] AND THE FINANCE CATEGORY.
[12:12] OVER 21 MILLION IN CWP FUNDING
[12:14] HAS BEEN SUPPORTED TO THE ONE
[12:16] PLUS BOSTON FIRST TIME
[12:18] HOMEBUYERS PROGRAM, HELPING
[12:20] MORE THAN 1000 RESIDENTS BECOME
[12:22] FIRST TIME HOMEOWNERS WITH OVER
[12:24] 480 WITH OVER 480 HOMEBUYERS
[12:27] RECEIVING DOWNPAYMENT AND
[12:29] CLOSING COSTS ASSISTANCE.
[12:33] CPA FUNDS SUPPORT BOTH RENTAL
[12:35] AND HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES
[12:36] FOR HOUSEHOLD EARNING UP TO 180
[12:40] UP TO 100% OF THE AMI
[12:44] PRESERVING.
[12:44] IT HAS ALSO HELPED PRESERVE AND
[12:46] DEVELOP OVER 2400 UNITS
[12:49] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING INCLUDING
[12:50] HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES
[12:52] SUPPORTING HOUSING PROJECTS FOR
[12:55] VETERANS, SENIORS AND
[12:56] INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING
[12:58] HOMELESSNESS.
[12:58] THE COMMITTEE STRIVES TO FIND
[13:00] NEW AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS
[13:02] THAT PRIORITIZE LOCAL RESIDENTS
[13:04] .
[13:04] THE COMMITTEE ALSO STRIVES TO
[13:06] SUPPORT DEEPLY AFFORDABLE UNITS
[13:08] SERVING HOUSEHOLDS EARNING
[13:11] BETWEEN 30 AND 60% AMI.
[13:15] THE CPA FIVE YEAR PLAN HAS
[13:17] OVERALL GOALS AND KEY GOALS FOR
[13:19] THREE FUNDING CATEGORIES.
[13:21] ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO CONTINUE
[13:23] TO ESTABLISH A CPA FUNDING
[13:25] ALLOCATION FORMULA ANNUALLY TO
[13:28] HELP GUIDE RECOMMENDATIONS.
[13:31] AS STATED EARLIER IN MY
[13:32] PRESENTATION, THE COMMITTEE IS
[13:33] COMMITTED TO PROVIDING A
[13:35] BALANCED APPROACH TO MEET THE
[13:36] GOALS OF THE CPA PLAN WHILE
[13:39] ADDRESSING BOSTON'S ONGOING
[13:41] AFFORDABLE HOUSING NEEDS.
[13:42] THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY
[13:44] TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION.
[13:48] THANK YOU DIRECTOR BROWN.
[13:51] ALSO THANK YOU JUST FOR THE
[13:52] AMAZING.
[13:52] WORK THAT YOU AND YOUR ENTIRE
[13:54] TEAM DOES.
[13:54] ON A CONSISTENT BASIS.
[13:55] THANK YOU.
[13:56] SO IT'S AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO
[13:57] WORK WITH YOU.
[13:58] UM OKAY.
[13:59] NOW WITH THAT I'M GOING TO GO.
[14:02] TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR FOR Q&A.
[14:04] I'M GOING.
[14:04] TO.
[14:05] GIVE.
[14:05] MY COLLEAGUE SEVEN MINUTES.
[14:06] UM, THE FIRST ROUND AND THEN IF
[14:08] ANYONE HAS ANY FOLLOW UP
[14:09] QUESTIONS I'LL.
[14:10] ALLOW SOME EXTRA TIME.
[14:11] I'M GOING TO START OFF WITH
[14:12] THE.
[14:13] WITH THE MAIN SPONSOR.
[14:14] OF THIS DOCKET COUNCIL ORAL AND
[14:16] THEN WE'LL GO IN ORDER
[14:17] OF ARRIVAL.
[14:18] I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT.
[14:20] I.
[14:20] .
[14:22] UM ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'VE BEEN
[14:23] JOINED BY COUNCILORS BREADON
[14:24] AND COUNCILORS FITZGERALD.
[14:26] SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[14:27] OKAY.
[14:28] COUNCIL.
[14:28] WELL, THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
[14:29] UH THANK YOU, CHAIR, THANK YOU
[14:31] .
[14:31] UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BROWN UM
[14:33] ,AGAIN, VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE
[14:34] WORK THAT THE CPA HAS DONE
[14:36] THROUGHOUT UH, THE ENTIRE CITY
[14:39] OF BOSTON WAS AT UM, UH, THE
[14:42] WILD PARK.
[14:42] UH, SO THANK YOU FOR THAT AND
[14:44] HAVE BEEN AT MANY RIBBON
[14:45] CUTTINGS UM, BOTH SIDE WITH
[14:47] THIS OPEN SPACE UH OR
[14:49] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[14:50] UH, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS
[14:53] AROUND, UM, TRYING TO FIND WAYS
[14:55] ON HOW TO MAXIMIZE THE MOST OUT
[14:57] OF CPA FUNDS.
[14:58] HAVE WE EVER EXPLORED I THINK
[15:00] MASSACHUSETTS STATE LAW GIVES
[15:03] US THE ABILITY TO BOND AGAINST
[15:05] CPA FUNDS.
[15:06] HAVE WE EVER EXPLORED BONDING
[15:08] AGAINST CPA FUNDS AND CAN YOU
[15:10] TELL ME ABOUT WHAT THAT IMPACT.
[15:12] WOULD LOOK LIKE?
[15:14] SO NO, THE COMMITTEE CURRENTLY
[15:16] THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AROUND
[15:18] BONDING AND AT THE TIME YOU
[15:20] KNOW, THE TREASURY KIND
[15:22] OF ADVISED THAT IT WOULDN'T BE
[15:23] SOMETHING THAT THE COMMITTEE
[15:24] SHOULD THINK ABOUT DOING.
[15:26] UM I DON'T HAVE ALL THE EXACT
[15:28] DETAILS.
[15:29] I KNOW THE COMMITTEE THE
[15:30] PRESENTATION WAS GIVEN TO THE
[15:32] COMMITTEE AND AT THE TIME THE
[15:33] COMMITTEE DID NOT CHOOSE TO DO
[15:34] BONDING.
[15:35] THEY DID WANT TO WORK WITHIN
[15:36] THE FUNDS THAT THEY CURRENTLY
[15:37] HAD ON HAND TO BE ABLE TO FUND
[15:39] THE PROJECTS.
[15:40] AND SO HOW LONG AGO WAS THAT
[15:43] PRESENTATION FROM THE TREASURY?
[15:44] THAT PRESENTATION MAY HAVE BEEN
[15:46] DONE A FEW YEARS AGO.
[15:48] OKAY.
[15:49] UM WE.
[15:50] WERE ABLE TO THE CHAIR WOULD
[15:51] BE ABLE TO SUBMIT.
[15:52] THAT PRESENTATION SO WE COULD
[15:53] GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING
[15:54] OF THE IMPACTS.
[15:56] SO I'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME
[15:57] INFORMATION AROUND THAT.
[15:58] OKAY.
[15:59] THANK YOU.
[16:01] UM, WHEN IT COMES TO THE ANNUAL
[16:07] CONVERSATION AROUND HOW THE
[16:08] BOARD WILL BE ALLOCATING UH,
[16:12] THE FUNDS WHAT WHAT WHAT IS THE
[16:14] BOARD.
[16:15] LOOK.
[16:15] LOOK INTO TO DETERMINE
[16:18] WHETHER WE'RE KEEPING, UM, THE
[16:20] SAME ALLOCATIONS OR READJUSTING
[16:22] ?
[16:23] SURE.
[16:24] THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
[16:26] SO EVERY YEAR WE RECEIVE OVER
[16:28] 100 ELIGIBILITY FORMS AND THEN
[16:30] A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
[16:31] OF PROJECTS THAT COME IN FROM
[16:32] THE JOINT RFP WITH THE MAYOR'S
[16:34] OFFICE OF HOUSING.
[16:35] SO THE COMMITTEE UNDERSTANDS
[16:37] THAT THERE'S A HOUSING CRISIS
[16:39] AND A NEED WITHIN THE CITY
[16:41] OF BOSTON.
[16:41] BUT THEY ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT
[16:43] THERE'S A LARGE ADVOCATE
[16:45] OF COMMUNITY GROUPS THAT ALSO,
[16:46] UM, YOU KNOW, HAD SUPPORT FOR
[16:49] THE OTHER TWO FUNDING
[16:51] CATEGORIES.
[16:51] HISTORIC PRESERVATION IS THE
[16:53] LARGEST CATEGORY OF PROJECTS
[16:55] THAT COME IN EVERY YEAR.
[16:57] AND SO THE COMMITTEE HAS TO
[16:58] CONSIDER IF WE'RE ALREADY
[17:00] GIVING 50% TO AFFORDABLE
[17:02] HOUSING, WHICH IS THE BIGGEST
[17:03] NEED WITHIN THE CITY.
[17:04] IT'S ONLY A BALANCED APPROACH
[17:06] TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THE
[17:08] OTHER TWO OTHER TWO CATEGORIES
[17:10] WHICH IS HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[17:12] AND OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
[17:13] BECAUSE THOSE PROJECTS ALSO
[17:15] HAVE CRITICAL NEEDS.
[17:16] AND SO THE COMMITTEE SINCE THE
[17:19] INCEPTION HAS DECIDED THAT 50%
[17:22] WOULD BE THE FUNDING
[17:23] ALLOCATION.
[17:24] AND WHEN OUR HEARING HAPPENS
[17:25] OUR ANNUAL HEARING HAPPENS IN
[17:27] UH SEPTEMBER EACH YEAR.
[17:29] THEY HAVE TEND TO STICK TO THE
[17:31] 50% 20% TO UH, OPEN SPACE AND
[17:35] RECREATION AND 20% TO HISTORIC
[17:37] PRESERVATION AND DECIDING WHERE
[17:39] TO SPLIT THE 10%.
[17:41] AND HISTORICALLY THEY HAVE
[17:42] SPLIT THE 10% BETWEEN THE OTHER
[17:44] TWO CATEGORIES BASED ON THE
[17:47] SIGNIFICANT NEEDS OF THE
[17:49] REQUEST THAT COME IN THAT
[17:50] FUNDING ROUND.
[17:51] OUR GRANT IS ONE OF THE MOST
[17:52] COMPETITIVE FUNDING GRANT UH
[17:54] GRANTS ESPECIALLY FOR THE
[17:56] HISTORIC PRESERVATION CATEGORY
[17:57] BECAUSE OUR FUNDS IS GETTING
[17:59] OUT THE DOOR FAIRLY QUICKLY AND
[18:01] PROJECTS ARE BEING COMPLETED
[18:02] WITHIN WITHIN A 24 MONTH
[18:04] TIMELINE.
[18:05] THANK YOU.
[18:05] AND DO YOU SEE, UM, YOU KNOW
[18:09] ,OVER THE COURSE OF LIKE THE
[18:10] LAST THREE YEARS THE ABILITY TO
[18:12] STRETCH THE 50% THAT'S
[18:14] ALLOCATED TO AFFORDABLE
[18:16] HOUSING, UM.
[18:19] BE A LOT LESS LIKE YOU'RE.
[18:21] ABLE TO REACH LESS UM, PROJECTS
[18:25] AS CONSTRUCTION AND BORROWING
[18:26] COSTS GO UP.
[18:27] ARE YOU.
[18:28] SEEING THE SAME AMOUNT
[18:29] OF PROJECTS BEING FUNDED OR
[18:30] LESS PROJECTS BEING FUNDED?
[18:32] I THINK THERE HAS BEEN A SHIFT
[18:34] IN THE LAST FUNDING ROUND I
[18:36] WOULD SAY JUST DUE TO UM
[18:38] CUTBACKS AND OTHER FUNDING
[18:39] SOURCES TO HELP WITH
[18:40] HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[18:41] SO THE LAST FUNDING ROUND WAS
[18:43] THE FIRST TIME THAT THE
[18:45] COMMITTEE SAW A LOT OF RENTAL
[18:47] PROJECTS ONLY AND THEN WE ONLY
[18:48] HAD ONE HOMEOWNERSHIP WHICH WAS
[18:50] THE ONE PLUS BOSTON
[18:52] HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAM.
[18:53] SO WE NOTICED THAT SHIFT LAST
[18:56] YEAR IN OUR FUNDING ROUND DUE
[18:58] TO THE FACT THAT THERE WAS JUST
[18:59] NOT ENOUGH FUNDING TO SUPPORT
[19:00] HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS, BUT WE
[19:02] WERE STILL ABLE TO FUND RENTAL
[19:04] PROJECTS.
[19:04] I WOULD SAY WE STILL FUNDED
[19:06] ABOUT THE SAME AVERAGE AMOUNT
[19:07] OF PROJECTS THAT WE DID.
[19:09] AGAIN, WE JUST DID NOT WE WERE
[19:10] NOT ABLE TO UH, SUPPORT
[19:12] HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[19:13] WE WERE JUST ABLE TO SOMEWHAT
[19:14] SUPPORT A LOT OF RENTAL
[19:15] PROJECTS LAST YEAR.
[19:17] GOT IT.
[19:18] AND I KNOW THAT WHEN IT COMES
[19:21] TO HOMEOWNERSHIP, PARTICULARLY
[19:22] AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP UH,
[19:24] SOMETIMES DID NOT AS ENOUGH
[19:27] FUNDING FROM THE STATE SIDE UH
[19:29] TO MAKE THOSE PROJECTS UM
[19:31] ACTUALLY POSSIBLE.
[19:33] SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WHEN
[19:34] THE STATE FUNDING IS UNCERTAIN
[19:38] IT DOESN'T INCENTIVIZE OR
[19:40] CREATE, YOU KNOW, THE
[19:41] ATMOSPHERE FOR DEVELOPERS.
[19:43] TO PROVIDE.
[19:44] AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[19:45] WOULD WOULD THAT BE A REASON,
[19:47] UM, THAT THE BOARD WOULD
[19:49] CONSIDER TO INCREASING UM THE.
[19:52] AFFORDABLE OR.
[19:53] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO
[19:54] TRY TO SEE IF WE CAN JUMPSTART
[19:57] OR INCENTIVIZE UM, AFFORDABLE
[19:59] HOMEOWNERSHIP AS WE SEE, YOU
[20:00] KNOW, THE DECLINE IN
[20:02] INVESTMENTS FROM THE CPA.
[20:04] I THINK THE COMMITTEE IS ALWAYS
[20:05] OPEN TO CONVERSATION AROUND
[20:08] INCREASING UH, FUNDING IN ANY
[20:10] ANY OF THE CATEGORIES.
[20:11] UM, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, FULL
[20:14] DETAILS ON THE NEEDS AND THE
[20:16] REQUEST.
[20:16] UM, SO I DON'T YOU KNOW, I
[20:19] THINK THE COMMITTEE IS OPEN TO
[20:22] UM, CONVERSATIONS AROUND UM,
[20:25] GIVING ADDITIONAL FUNDS TO
[20:26] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[20:27] AGAIN, THEY DO WANT TO TRY TO
[20:29] KEEP A BALANCED APPROACH JUST
[20:31] BECAUSE THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT
[20:32] NEED IN THE OTHER TWO
[20:33] CATEGORIES AND JUST A DEMAND
[20:35] OF THE PROJECTS THAT COME IN
[20:36] EVERY YEAR.
[20:37] GOT IT.
[20:38] AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S SOME
[20:40] PROJECTS UM THAT WERE AWARDED
[20:42] MAYBE THEY COULDN'T, YOU KNOW,
[20:43] GET A DEVELOPMENT TEAM TOGETHER
[20:45] .
[20:46] UH, MAYBE THEY WEREN'T READY TO
[20:47] BUILD THE PARK.
[20:49] UM, DOES THE BOARD TAKE EXIT
[20:51] FORMS TO UNDERSTAND WHY UM,
[20:54] PROJECTS ARE RETURNING THE
[20:55] MONEY?
[20:56] SURE.
[20:57] SO ANY PROJECT.
[20:58] UM, SO I'LL JUST STEP BACK A
[21:01] LITTLE BIT.
[21:01] UM, MY TEAM AND I WHICH IS A
[21:03] TEAM OF EIGHT INDIVIDUALS WE
[21:05] ARE A VERY SMALL BUT MIGHTY
[21:06] TEAM.
[21:07] EVERY PROJECT THAT COMES BEFORE
[21:09] US HAS A PROJECT MANAGER SO
[21:11] EVERY PROJECT IS BEING MANAGED
[21:12] MONTHLY.
[21:12] THERE'S A CONVERSATION WITH THE
[21:14] WITH EACH PROJECT EVERY MONTH
[21:17] TO FIND OUT HOW THEY'RE DOING,
[21:18] IF THEY'RE RUNNING INTO ANY
[21:19] ISSUES OR CHALLENGES.
[21:21] USUALLY IF A PROJECT IS BEING
[21:23] WITHDRAWN IT'S BECAUSE THEY
[21:24] CAN'T UM KEEP UP WITH THE LEGAL
[21:28] REQUIREMENTS OF THE GRANT
[21:29] AGREEMENT AND HAVE TO WITHDRAW
[21:30] BEFORE EVEN RECEIVING THE FUNDS
[21:32] OR THERE MAY BE A SIGNIFICANT
[21:34] DELAYS WHERE THEY NEED MORE
[21:35] ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO BUILD THE
[21:37] PROJECT AND THAT MAY BE GOOD
[21:38] FOR THEM TO WITHDRAW AND COME
[21:40] BACK ON ANOTHER TIME TO DO THAT
[21:42] WORK FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[21:44] SOMETIMES THAT IS THE CASE.
[21:45] THEY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BUILD
[21:47] THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF UNITS
[21:48] THAT THEY HAVE, SO THEY MIGHT
[21:50] WANT TO RECONSIDER COMING BACK
[21:51] FOR CPA FUNDS.
[21:53] BUT FOR EVERY PROJECT THAT'S
[21:54] NOT RECOMMENDED FOR FUNDING OR
[21:55] WITHDRAWN, THERE'S A PERSONAL
[21:57] MEETING WITH ME AND MY TEAM
[21:58] MYSELF TO DISCUSS WHY THE
[22:00] PROJECT IS WITHDRAWING, THE
[22:03] REASONS WHY THEIR APPLICATION
[22:05] MAY NOT HAVE MOVE FORWARD BUT
[22:06] WE ARE IN CONSTANT
[22:08] COMMUNICATION WITH ANY
[22:08] APPLICANTS THAT ARE NOT
[22:10] RECOMMENDED FOR AWARDS OR MAY
[22:11] HAVE TO WITHDRAW THEIR PROJECTS
[22:12] .
[22:13] AND THEN LAST FOLLOW UP
[22:15] QUESTION.
[22:16] UM WHAT WHAT WOULD YOU SAY IS
[22:18] THE MAIN REASON FOR AFFORDABLE
[22:21] HOUSING TO WITHDRAW?
[22:22] IS IT THE LEGAL REQUIREMENT OR
[22:24] IS IT THE NEED FOR ADDITIONAL
[22:25] FUNDING OR IS IT SOMETHING
[22:26] ELSE.
[22:27] SO I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO
[22:29] PINPOINT EXACTLY WHAT THE MAIN
[22:30] REASON MIGHT BE.
[22:32] I THINK IT'LL BE HELPFUL IF I
[22:33] DID HAVE YOU KNOW, I THINK
[22:35] OTHER COMMENTARY FROM THE
[22:37] MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING WOULD
[22:38] HELP ANSWER THAT QUESTION AS
[22:39] WELL.
[22:40] BUT I WOULD SAY IT COULD BE A
[22:41] UH, NUMBER OF FACTORS.
[22:43] UM, BUT MAYBE FUNDING IS ONE
[22:45] OF THOSE.
[22:45] IT COULD BE IT COULD BE A LEGAL
[22:47] REQUIREMENT.
[22:47] IT COULD BE OTHER INSTANCES
[22:49] OF SOMETHING THAT MAY HAVE COME
[22:51] UP THAT WASN'T SEEN BEFORE THE
[22:52] PROJECT WAS RECOMMENDED.
[22:54] ALL RIGHT.
[22:55] THANK YOU.
[22:56] THANK YOU COUNSELOR.
[22:57] THANK YOU.
[22:59] OKAY NOW WE'RE GOING TO GO IN
[23:00] ORDER OF ARRIVAL STARTING WITH
[23:01] COUNCILOR MURPHY AND THEN
[23:02] COUNCILOR FLYNN AND DEAN DURKAN
[23:04] .
[23:04] THANK YOU.
[23:05] UM, THANK YOU FOR DEAN FOR
[23:07] BEING HERE.
[23:09] AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
[23:10] YOUR PRESENTATION I THINK
[23:12] MATCHES ALSO HOW YOU CARRY
[23:15] YOURSELF IN YOUR TEAM.
[23:15] YOU'RE ALWAYS OPEN AND EASY TO
[23:18] COMMUNICATE WITH SO THANK YOU
[23:20] FOR THAT.
[23:20] NOT JUST MYSELF IN MY OFFICE
[23:22] BUT I SEE YOU OUT IN THE
[23:24] NEIGHBORHOOD.
[23:25] YOU PROBABLY SAID IT IN YOUR
[23:26] PRESENTATION, BUT ONE OF YOUR
[23:28] RESPONSES TO COUNCILOR ORAL IS
[23:30] SOMETHING THAT I JUST WANT TO
[23:32] ECHO WAS TRUE THAT YOU FOLLOW
[23:34] UP RIGHT AND YOU TALK TO THE
[23:35] PEOPLE WHO MANY TIMES I'VE HAD
[23:38] THIS CONVERSATION WITH YOU
[23:39] MAYBE IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME
[23:40] THEY APPLY BUT YOU GIVE THEM
[23:41] ADVICE COME BACK, DON'T GIVE
[23:43] UP.
[23:43] BUT ALSO YOU HAVE THESE
[23:45] LISTENING INFORMATION SESSIONS
[23:47] IN THE COMMUNITY AND I KNOW
[23:48] DISTRICT COUNCIL IS LIKE
[23:49] COUNCILOR FLYNN I'VE BEEN TO A
[23:50] COUPLE IN HIS DISTRICT.
[23:51] TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT
[23:53] OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE ONE THING
[23:56] WE DID FIND IS THAT NOT EVERY
[23:58] NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE SAME
[24:00] AMOUNT OF CPA FUNDS, BUT IT'S
[24:02] NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT CHOOSING
[24:03] THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS MANY TIMES
[24:05] IT'S JUST THEY'RE NOT
[24:06] SUBMITTING.
[24:07] THEY MAY NOT KNOW THAT
[24:08] OPPORTUNITIES THERE.
[24:10] SO IT'S NOT EVEN THOUGH LIKE
[24:12] YOU SAID YOU'RE A MIGHTY TEAM.
[24:13] YOU DON'T EVEN THOUGH YOU DON'T
[24:14] HAVE AN INFINITE AMOUNT
[24:16] OF FUNDS.
[24:17] YOU DON'T STOP THAT FROM
[24:19] PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO MAKE
[24:20] SURE EVERYONE KNOWS TO APPLY
[24:22] TRY COME BACK IF YOU NEED TO SO
[24:25] THANK YOU FOR THAT.
[24:27] JUST A QUESTION UM ABOUT LIKE
[24:31] THERE'S THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A
[24:33] NEED FOR HOUSING.
[24:34] WE KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING
[24:36] WE TALK ABOUT A LOT HERE ON
[24:37] THIS COUNCIL.
[24:39] UM BUT THE GOALS AND I THINK
[24:41] YOU DID A GOOD JOB LIKE
[24:42] REMINDING ME ABOUT YOU KNOW,
[24:44] THE GOALS AND WHAT YOUR BOARD
[24:47] FOCUS IS ON IN THE THREE
[24:48] DIFFERENT CATEGORIES I'VE BEEN
[24:49] TO SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW,
[24:51] SCHOOL PLAYGROUND OPENINGS OR
[24:53] THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, YOU
[24:54] KNOW, WHEN THEY PUT THE LAST
[24:57] COAT OF PAINT ON OR YOU KNOW,
[24:58] THEY'RE OPENING THE DOORS TO AN
[24:59] OLDER BUILDING WHICH IS
[25:01] WONDERFUL TOO AND THEN THE
[25:02] HOUSING PROJECTS OBVIOUSLY SO
[25:04] NEEDED AND WE ALWAYS NEED MORE
[25:06] MONEY FOR THAT ESPECIALLY IN
[25:07] THIS DAY AND AGE.
[25:08] BUT IF YOU COULD IT TOUCH ON
[25:12] AND IT WAS MENTIONED HOW IF
[25:14] SOMEONE HAS TO IF SOMEONE IS
[25:17] AWARDED OR YOU KNOW
[25:18] ORGANIZATION GETS AWARDED THE
[25:20] MONEY FOR THEIR PROJECT AND FOR
[25:22] WHATEVER REASON THEY NEED TO
[25:23] WITHDRAW.
[25:24] IS THERE TIME FOR YOUR TEAM TO
[25:26] PUT THAT BACK IN TO SOMEONE WHO
[25:28] MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN CHOSEN BUT
[25:30] YOU KNOW THEY COULD BE READY TO
[25:32] BE SELECTED AND IF SO, DO YOU
[25:34] TRY TO STAY IN THE SAME
[25:35] CATEGORY SO THAT PERCENTAGE
[25:37] STAYS AROUND THE SAME?
[25:39] SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A PROJECT
[25:41] IS UM WITHDRAWN IT IT'S
[25:44] REALLOCATED BACK TO THE NEW
[25:45] FUNDING ROUND AND IT GOES
[25:46] ACROSS ALL THREE FUNDING
[25:48] CATEGORIES BECAUSE OVER THE
[25:49] LAST SEVERAL YEARS WE HAVE BEEN
[25:51] MEETING THE 10% REQUIREMENT.
[25:52] WHEN A FUND IS REALLOCATED IT
[25:55] DOES NOT NEED TO BE REALLOCATED
[25:57] TO THE ONE PARTICULAR CATEGORY.
[25:59] IT CAN BE REALLOCATED TO FUND
[26:01] TO GO BACK TO THE FULL POT TO
[26:02] HELP ALL PROJECTS.
[26:04] OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT.
[26:05] AND YOU SAID HOW YOUR TEAMS
[26:07] THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEONE ASSIGNED
[26:08] SO THEY HAVE A PROJECT MANAGER
[26:10] BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT
[26:12] HOUSING DOES THAT MONEY JUST GO
[26:14] TO SAY SHEILA DILLON AND SHE
[26:16] TAKES OVER KIND OF THE OVERSEE
[26:18] OF THAT OR DOES IT GO TO YOU
[26:21] KNOW IF IT'S A SCHOOL
[26:22] PLAYGROUND HOW DOES THAT WORK?
[26:24] HOW MUCH OF YOUR TEAM'S
[26:26] OVERSIGHT STAYS THROUGHOUT THE
[26:27] ENTIRE PROJECT?
[26:28] SURE.
[26:29] THAT'S A REALLY GREAT
[26:30] QUESTION.
[26:30] SO ALL CITY DEPARTMENT PROJECTS
[26:31] CAN BE MONITORED INTERNALLY.
[26:33] WE CAN MONITOR THEIR FUNDS TO
[26:35] PROJECT SUMMARY REPORTS.
[26:36] AND SO WITH THE AFFORDABLE
[26:38] HOUSING UM PROJECTS THERE IS A
[26:39] WAY WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[26:42] OF HOUSING BUT IT IS ALLOCATED
[26:44] TO A PARTICULAR DEVELOPER.
[26:46] SO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[26:47] OF HOUSING DOES GET THAT
[26:48] FUNDING SOURCE TO BE ABLE TO
[26:50] DISTRIBUTE IT TO THAT
[26:51] DEVELOPER, UH FOR THAT AWARDED
[26:53] AMOUNT.
[26:53] SO THE FUNDS ARE IS GOING TO
[26:55] THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING
[26:56] BUT IT IS ALSO GOING TO THAT
[26:57] PARTICULAR DEVELOPER WHEN IT
[26:58] GOES OVER TO THAT DEPARTMENT.
[27:00] FOR OUR BOSTON PUBLIC SCHOOLS
[27:02] WE DO MONITOR THOSE PROJECTS.
[27:04] I PERSONALLY MONITOR ALL THE UM
[27:06] OPEN SPACE RECREATION PROJECTS
[27:08] FOR BP'S AND I MEET MONTHLY
[27:10] WITH THE BP FACILITIES TEAM ON
[27:12] THESE PROJECTS AND I CAN
[27:14] MONITOR THOSE FUNDS INTERNALLY.
[27:16] SO WE'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS ON
[27:17] WHERE THEY ARE IN THE FUNDING.
[27:19] ARE THEY IN THE
[27:20] PRE-CONSTRUCTION PHASE MID
[27:21] CONSTRUCTION AND WHEN THEY'RE
[27:22] READY FOR FINAL CLOSEOUT.
[27:24] SO WE CAN WE CAN WE CAN SEE
[27:26] THOSE FUNDS INTERNALLY.
[27:27] OKAY THANK YOU.
[27:28] AND JUST THANK YOU FOR
[27:29] EVERYTHING YOUR TEAM DOES UM
[27:31] HERE TO YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY
[27:33] ALWAYS SUPPORT HOW WE CAN NOT
[27:35] JUST FUND HOUSING MAKE SURE
[27:36] THOUGH THAT IT GETS OFF THE
[27:38] GROUND AND IT SEES ITSELF
[27:39] THROUGH.
[27:39] BUT ALSO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
[27:42] TO ACKNOWLEDGE ALL THE OTHER
[27:43] GREAT FUNDING SOURCES.
[27:45] YOU KNOW THAT IT GOES TO OTHER
[27:47] IMPORTANT THINGS OUR CITY
[27:48] NEEDS.
[27:48] SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
[27:50] THANK YOU.
[27:51] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR MURPHY.
[27:53] OKAY, COUNCILOR FLYNN FLOOR IS
[27:55] YOURS.
[27:56] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[27:58] AND THANK YOU TO.
[27:59] THEY DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO
[28:00] WORK WITH YOU ON EVERY ROUND.
[28:03] UM, SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE AND
[28:05] YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB,
[28:06] YOU ARE AN EXCELLENT DEDICATED
[28:09] CITY EMPLOYEE.
[28:09] YOU WANT TO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
[28:11] THAT, UH, VERY PROFESSIONAL.
[28:14] UM, MY QUESTION WOULD BE.
[28:20] UM, SO I'M INTERESTED IN
[28:21] HEARING WHAT KIND OF PLANNING
[28:23] HAS BEEN DONE TO INCREASE, UH,
[28:26] THE CPA FEE AND WHAT THAT
[28:30] INCREASE WOULD REQUIRE FROM A
[28:32] PROCESS STANDPOINT.
[28:34] I KNOW SEVERAL MONTHS AGO IT
[28:37] WAS REPORTED THAT THE CITY WAS
[28:39] CONSIDERING INCREASING THE CPA
[28:42] FEE BASICALLY TO COUNTER THE
[28:44] DECLINE IN FEDERAL FUNDING FOR
[28:48] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[28:49] BUT IS THAT SOMETHING YOU ARE
[28:51] CONSIDERING OR YOU'RE ACTIVELY
[28:53] TRYING TO PURSUE?
[28:55] NO, I AM NOT AWARE OF ANY
[28:58] INCREASE.
[28:59] OKAY.
[29:00] THE SURCHARGE OKAY.
[29:03] UM.
[29:07] IT WAS IT WAS MY
[29:09] UNDERSTANDING THAT UM, THE CITY
[29:12] MAY CONSIDER AN EFFORT TO BOOST
[29:15] CPA LEVY.
[29:16] IT CHARGES PROPERTY OWNERS.
[29:17] BUT I GUESS THAT'S NOT THE CASE
[29:19] THOUGH.
[29:20] NO.
[29:21] OKAY, IF, UM IF THERE WERE
[29:24] TO BE A CONSIDERATION FOR AN
[29:26] INCREASE IN THE SURCHARGE, IT
[29:28] WOULD NEED TO BE ANOTHER BALLOT
[29:29] INITIATIVE, UM, THAT THE
[29:32] RESIDENTS OF BOSTON WOULD NEED
[29:33] TO TO.
[29:34] VOTE ON.
[29:34] OKAY.
[29:35] EXCELLENT.
[29:36] UM, SO HAS HAS YOUR OFFICE
[29:41] TAKEN A POSITION ON THIS
[29:45] RECOMMENDATION HERE WHERE UM,
[29:48] YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY RAISING THE
[29:51] PERCENT OF CPA FOR AFFORDABLE
[29:54] HOUSING BUT HAVE YOU TAKEN A
[29:56] POSITION ON THAT?
[29:57] WOULD YOU BE IN FAVOR OF THAT?
[30:00] UM, I WOULD SAY THE COMMITTEE
[30:01] IS OPEN TO BEING FLEXIBLE WITH
[30:05] INCREASING, UH, REALLOCATING
[30:07] WITH THEIR ALLOCATIONS.
[30:09] AND SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S THE
[30:10] POSITION OF THE COMMITTEE IS
[30:13] THAT THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO
[30:16] CONTINUE TO GIVE 50% TO
[30:17] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HAVE
[30:19] SOME CONSIDERATION AROUND THE
[30:21] 10% RESERVES EACH YEAR.
[30:25] SO THE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[30:28] YOU MENTIONED MIGHT NOT BE FOR
[30:30] HOME OWNERSHIP BUT IT COULD BE
[30:32] USED FOR RENTALS.
[30:34] IS THAT IS THAT ACCURATE?
[30:35] YES.
[30:36] CURRENTLY OUR CPA FUNDS IS
[30:38] USED FOR TO CREATE NEW RENTAL
[30:40] AND HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS AS WELL
[30:43] AS SUPPORTING TWO UH UH HOUSING
[30:45] PROGRAMS.
[30:48] SO IF WE IF WE DESIGNATE AND
[30:51] SUPPORT MORE OF THIS MONEY FOR
[30:54] HOUSING, IT ALSO MEANS WE'RE
[30:56] NOT PUTTING MORE OF THAT MONEY
[30:59] INTO OPEN SPACE AND HISTORIC
[31:01] PRESERVATION.
[31:02] IS THAT FAIR TO SAY.
[31:03] THAT IS A FAIR STATEMENT?
[31:04] OKAY.
[31:06] WHAT IMPACT WOULD THAT HAVE
[31:09] ON ON PARKS OPEN SPACE AND I
[31:11] SAY THAT THEY DOING IS IN IN IN
[31:15] CHINATOWN WHERE I REPRESENT WE
[31:17] ACTUALLY HAVE THE SMALLEST
[31:19] PUBLIC PARK IN THE CITY UM AND
[31:24] WE HAVE VERY VERY LIMITED OPEN
[31:26] SPACE UM AND BUT BUT WE ALSO
[31:30] KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER
[31:33] OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARKS TO BE
[31:35] UPGRADED OR HISTORIC
[31:36] PRESERVATION BUT WHAT IT
[31:37] BASICALLY WOULD THAT HAVE A
[31:38] NEGATIVE IMPACT ON UH, PLANNING
[31:43] OR SUPPORTING PARKS OPEN SPACE
[31:44] FOR ESPECIALLY FOR OUR YOUNG
[31:46] PEOPLE FOR OUR YOUTH?
[31:48] YES.
[31:48] I WOULD SAY THAT IF THERE'S
[31:51] UH, NOT ENOUGH FUNDING UM, IF
[31:53] UH, A LARGER POOL OF FUNDS GOES
[31:57] TOWARDS A DIFFERENT CATEGORY,
[31:58] IT IS GOING TO IMPACT THE OTHER
[32:00] TWO CATEGORIES.
[32:02] UM, AND SO YES, IT COULD
[32:05] POTENTIALLY UM AFFECT THE OTHER
[32:07] TWO CATEGORIES.
[32:08] WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO FUND THE
[32:10] SAME AMOUNT OF PROJECTS.
[32:11] AND AGAIN IT IS A VERY
[32:13] COMPETITIVE FUNDING ROUND WITH
[32:15] CPA.
[32:16] UM AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS A
[32:18] CHALLENGE WITH THE COMMITTEE TO
[32:20] BE ABLE TO ALLOCATE UM FUNDING
[32:23] TO ALL THE PROJECTS THAT COME
[32:24] BEFORE US.
[32:27] OFTENTIMES IF A CITY OR STATE
[32:29] WANTS TO SUPPORT A DEVELOPMENT
[32:31] PROJECT WITH WITH FUNDS SO IT
[32:34] CAN CAN GET OFF THE GROUND,
[32:36] THEY OFTEN USE THE TERM IT
[32:38] NEEDS TO BE SHOVEL READY.
[32:40] SO PROJECT NEEDS TO BE SHOVEL
[32:41] READY BEFORE THE CITY WILL UH
[32:44] SUPPORT IT OR THE STATE WILL
[32:46] SUPPORT IT.
[32:46] BUT HOW WOULD WE KNOW FOR FOR
[32:50] THE FOR THE COMPETITIVE PROCESS
[32:52] THAT A PROJECT IS SHOVEL READY
[32:56] BEFORE A DECISION IS MADE A CPA
[33:00] TO TO FUND A PARTICULAR HOUSING
[33:02] PROJECT.
[33:03] UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT
[33:05] SHOVEL READY DO WE STILL
[33:08] SUPPORT THE PROJECT KNOWING
[33:10] EVENTUALLY IT WILL BE IT WILL
[33:12] UH, BE SHOVEL READY OR MAYBE IT
[33:14] WON'T BE.
[33:16] YEAH.
[33:16] I THINK FOR UNDER AFFORDABLE
[33:18] HOUSING WITH THE JOINT RFP WE
[33:20] HAVE WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[33:22] OF HOUSING, USUALLY DEVELOPERS
[33:23] HAVE TO RESPOND TO WHAT'S IN
[33:25] THE RFP.
[33:26] THEY USUALLY HAVE TO HAVE THEIR
[33:28] TEAM AND LAND AND EVERYTHING
[33:30] KIND OF PREPARED AND READY TO
[33:32] GO AND THEIR NUMBERS IN ORDER
[33:34] TO BE ABLE TO BUILD AN
[33:35] UNDERSTANDING THE ADDITIONAL
[33:36] FUNDS THAT THEY NEED TO CREATE
[33:38] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM THAT
[33:40] THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO
[33:42] TO BUILD.
[33:42] AND SO WE DO UNDERSTAND FOR
[33:45] AFFORDABLE HOUSING IT DOES TAKE
[33:46] A LONGER TIME FOR PROJECTS TO
[33:49] BE BUILT.
[33:49] SO UNDER CPA UH AFFORDABLE
[33:51] HOUSING PROJECTS ARE GIVEN FIVE
[33:54] YEARS TO SPEND FUNDING BECAUSE
[33:56] THEY NEED ADDITIONAL FUNDING
[33:58] SOURCES IN ORDER TO PULL
[34:00] TOGETHER UM ALL THE FUNDING
[34:01] THEY NEED TO BUILD A LARGER
[34:03] DEVELOPMENT.
[34:04] AND SO WHEN SOMEONE IS
[34:06] RESPONDING TO THE JOINT RFP
[34:07] THERE IS UM A LOT OF THINGS
[34:09] THEY HAVE TO HAVE DONE IT IN
[34:11] PLACE BEFORE THAT PROJECT IS
[34:13] CONSIDERED.
[34:15] IF THIS RECOMMENDATION WAS
[34:17] IMPLEMENTED AND I DO HAVE
[34:19] INCREDIBLE RESPECT FOR THE THE
[34:21] THE BOARD THAT MAKES THE
[34:23] DECISIONS ON WHERE THE FUNDING
[34:25] WOULD GO.
[34:25] BUT IF THIS WAS TO BE
[34:27] IMPLEMENTED, DOES IT TAKE AWAY
[34:29] ANY OF THE DECISION MAKING FROM
[34:32] THE BOARD OR THE COMMISSIONERS
[34:34] ?
[34:34] HOWEVER, HOW HAVE WE FROZEN UM
[34:37] IN IN THEIR DECISION ON ON
[34:39] WHERE THIS FUNDING WHERE THIS
[34:41] MONEY WOULD BE ALLOCATED KNOW
[34:43] THAT KNOWING THAT A HIGHER
[34:45] PERCENTAGE HAS TO GO TO
[34:48] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALSO
[34:49] LET'S REDUCE THE OPEN SPACE AND
[34:52] HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[34:54] UM YEAH I THE COMMITTEE WOULD
[34:56] HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A
[34:58] DETAILED CONVERSATION AROUND
[35:00] WHAT THEY WOULD NEED TO DO.
[35:02] THEY STILL EVERY FUNDING ROUND
[35:04] THEY THEY ARE THE DECISION
[35:05] MAKERS IN HOW THEY WANT TO
[35:08] ALLOCATE CPA FUNDS AS LONG AS
[35:11] 10% IS MEETING ALL CATEGORIES,
[35:14] THEY DO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO
[35:17] CONSIDER HOW MUCH THEY WANT TO
[35:18] GIVE TO THE OTHER UM WHAT WHAT
[35:21] THEY WANT TO GIVE TO THE OTHER
[35:22] THREE TO THE THREE CATEGORIES
[35:24] AFTER THE 10%.
[35:26] UM, SO THEY DO HAVE THE
[35:28] FLEXIBILITY TO ALLOCATE UM MORE
[35:31] THAN 50%.
[35:33] HOWEVER THEY DO LIKE THE
[35:35] BALANCED APPROACH IN WHICH THEY
[35:36] HAVE NOW BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST
[35:38] ABLE TO FUND A LOT OF PROJECTS
[35:41] THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF BOSTON.
[35:43] WELL, MR.
[35:44] MR CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO SAY
[35:46] UM, AGAIN, I'VE I'VE WORKED
[35:48] WITH DE DEAN FOR FOR FOR NINE
[35:51] YEARS.
[35:51] SHE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB AND
[35:53] SHE'S AN INCREDIBLE UM, CITY
[35:56] EMPLOYEE AND HAVE A TREMENDOUS
[35:57] AMOUNT OF RESPECT FOR HER AND
[35:59] HER TEAM.
[35:59] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[36:00] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[36:02] I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THAT.
[36:03] UM, COUNCILOR DURKAN, THE FLOOR
[36:05] IS YOURS.
[36:06] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[36:07] UM, I FEEL LIKE I HAVE TO COME
[36:09] TO THIS, UH, HEARING IN
[36:11] GAMETIME MODE BECAUSE MY
[36:13] COMMUNITY IS SO VERY MUCH, UM,
[36:16] SUPPORTIVE OF BOTH AFFORDABLE
[36:17] HOUSING AND SUPPORTIVE OF OPEN
[36:19] SPACE AND SUPPORTIVE
[36:21] OF PRESERVATION.
[36:22] UM, AND I FEEL STRONGLY THAT UM
[36:24] ,THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN
[36:26] PART OF THE UH THE 74%
[36:29] OF VOTERS IN BOSTON THAT
[36:30] SUPPORTED THIS UM THAT THE
[36:33] REASON WHY THIS WAS SO POPULAR
[36:35] IS BECAUSE OF THAT TRIO
[36:36] OF THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO
[36:38] OUR CITY AND UM AND I KNOW THAT
[36:40] UM, WE HAVE UH, NINE MEMBER
[36:43] BOARD THAT IS CHARGED WITH SORT
[36:45] OF APPROPRIATING THESE FUNDS
[36:46] AND THEY'VE DONE AN INCREDIBLE
[36:48] JOB.
[36:48] NOT EVERY SINGLE PROJECT THAT I
[36:50] HAVE, YOU KNOW, PUT MY FULL
[36:52] THROATED SUPPORT BEHIND HAS
[36:53] GOTTEN FUNDED.
[36:54] UM, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S DONE A
[36:57] LOT OF GOOD.
[36:58] UM, JUST DOING THE MATH.
[36:59] UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IF WE
[37:02] HAVE GIVEN OVER $134 MILLION TO
[37:05] AFFORDABLE HOUSING THROUGH 66
[37:07] PROJECTS UM, THE AVERAGE YOU
[37:09] KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU SORT
[37:11] OF DIVIDED THAT THE AVERAGE
[37:12] WOULD BE A $2 MILLION UH, GIFT
[37:16] TOWARDS YOU KNOW, TO TOWARDS
[37:17] THAT WORK FOR HISTORIC
[37:19] PRESERVATION IF IT'S $62
[37:22] MILLION AND 207 PROJECT THE
[37:24] AVERAGE IS $300,000.
[37:25] BUT I KNOW IN MY DISTRICT IT
[37:27] COULD BE AS SMALL AS, YOU KNOW
[37:31] ,$70,000 AND AS BIG AS
[37:32] MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
[37:34] UM, I THINK WHAT THAT TELLS
[37:37] ME UM AND I THINK I COULD DO
[37:39] THE SAME FOR OPEN SPACE BUT UM
[37:40] BUT THAT'S NOT SORT OF WHAT'S
[37:42] BEEN BEING TALKED ABOUT TODAY.
[37:43] UM.
[37:45] I THINK WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS
[37:46] THAT WE'RE GETTING A LOT
[37:47] OF BANG FOR OUR BUCK ON THE
[37:49] HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
[37:51] I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IN MY
[37:52] DISTRICT THEY MOSTLY FOCUS ON
[37:54] THINGS THAT ARE VISIBLE TO THE
[37:56] STREETSCAPE.
[37:57] UM, SO YOU KNOW, THE FACADE,
[38:00] THE WINDOWS, THE DORMER UM, YOU
[38:03] KNOW, OFTENTIMES WATERPROOFING
[38:05] THINGS THAT IF NOT DONE QUICKLY
[38:08] COULD END UP CAUSING A LOT
[38:10] OF OTHER DAMAGE THAT WAS UH UM
[38:12] THAT WAS AN EXAMPLE FROM THE
[38:14] RUGGLES BAPTIST CHURCH AND
[38:14] AUDUBON CIRCLE IN MY DISTRICT
[38:16] THAT UM THAT HAD SOME MUCH
[38:18] NEEDED UM, REPAIRS AND IT WAS
[38:21] REALLY SERVE THE COMMUNITY UM
[38:24] HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[38:24] I SEE A LOT OF FOLKS HERE.
[38:26] JEFF GONYEA, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
[38:29] LEADERSHIP ON AND I KNOW SEE
[38:30] REBECCA KEMPER I SEE OBVIOUSLY
[38:32] OUR DIRECTOR OF HISTORIC
[38:34] PRESERVATION, UH, KATHY CARITAS
[38:36] AND ELIZABETH SHAW.
[38:36] AVA, THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK
[38:38] THAT YOU DO.
[38:39] I REALLY BELIEVE AS SOMEONE WHO
[38:40] CARES DEEPLY ABOUT BOTH
[38:43] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, UM, AND
[38:45] MAKING THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW,
[38:47] GET DONE IN THE CITY AND I'M A
[38:49] HUGE ADVOCATE FOR HOUSING, UM,
[38:51] AND A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR
[38:52] HISTORIC PRESERVATION THAT
[38:54] THESE ARE JUST NOT TWO
[38:55] PRIORITIES THAT WE SHOULD PUT
[38:56] AGAINST EACH OTHER.
[38:57] UM, I THINK THE COMMUNITY
[38:58] PRESERVATION ACT IS POPULAR
[39:00] BECAUSE OF THAT TRIAD OF THINGS
[39:02] THAT PEOPLE CARE DEEPLY ABOUT.
[39:04] AND UM, I DO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY
[39:07] WHERE WE'RE COMING FROM HERE.
[39:08] BUT IN TERMS OF THE UM WHEN I
[39:12] THINK ABOUT UH, IT AFFORDABLE
[39:15] HOUSING IS EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE
[39:17] AND THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT
[39:18] FUNDING STREAMS THAT FUND THOSE
[39:20] THINGS.
[39:20] I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GO BACK
[39:22] TO THE STATE AND I THINK THIS
[39:24] IS SOMETHING THAT I COULD WORK
[39:25] WITH THE LEAD SPONSOR ON AND
[39:26] SORT OF BUILD.
[39:27] A.
[39:27] COALITION, UH, BEHIND REALLY
[39:30] ADVOCATING AT THE STATE HOUSE
[39:32] FOR THERE TO BE MORE MONEY
[39:33] AVAILABLE FOR CPI AND LIKE NOT
[39:36] NECESSARILY UM, NOT NECESSARILY
[39:39] SAYING CAN WE CHANGE THE
[39:40] PERCENTAGE BUT CAN WE CHANGE
[39:41] THE AMOUNT OF TOTAL FUNDING
[39:42] AVAILABLE?
[39:43] UM AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING
[39:44] THAT WE CAN LOBBY FOR.
[39:47] UM I ACTUALLY A LOT OF PEOPLE
[39:48] DON'T KNOW THIS BUT I ACTUALLY
[39:49] MET THE FORMER COUNCILOR KENZI
[39:51] BOK.
[39:51] WE BECAME FRIENDS BECAUSE
[39:53] OF THIS EPA BALLOT INITIATIVE
[39:55] AND UM, SHE WAS NOT YET A
[39:58] COUNCILOR AND SHE WANTED TO GET
[39:59] A MEETING WITH
[40:00] COUNCILOR MICHELLE WU ON THIS
[40:01] ISSUE.
[40:02] AND I GOT HER THE MEETING AND
[40:03] THE REST IS HISTORY.
[40:05] SO UM ANYWAYS, THEY SO I THINK
[40:06] IT'S, UH YOU KNOW, IT'S
[40:08] INTERESTING UH, MY PERSONAL
[40:12] EXPERIENCE WITH THIS BALLOT
[40:13] INITIATIVE AND UM, BEING AN
[40:16] ACTIVIST IN THE COMMUNITY
[40:18] SPECIFICALLY FOR HISTORIC
[40:19] PRESERVATION AND AFFORDABLE
[40:20] HOUSING AND OPEN SPACE UM, I'LL
[40:22] JUST SAY THAT I THINK BOSTON
[40:23] UM, DATING UH, YOU BEING A PART
[40:26] OF THIS HAVE HANDLED, UM, THIS
[40:28] GREAT RESPONSIBILITY.
[40:30] WITH A LOT OF NUANCE AND, UM,
[40:32] WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF THINGS
[40:33] DONE.
[40:34] UM, OTHER COMMUNITIES AROUND
[40:36] THE STATE ARE USING THIS TO BUY
[40:38] UP OPEN SPACE.
[40:39] SO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS
[40:41] NOT BUILT.
[40:42] WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING THAT.
[40:43] WE HAVEN'T NIMBY FIED OUR CPA
[40:46] FUNDING AND I THINK THAT'S A
[40:47] HUGE UH THAT'S TO OUR BENEFIT.
[40:50] AND SO I BUT I DO THINK THESE
[40:52] CONVERSATIONS NEED TO HAPPEN
[40:53] OUT IN THE OPEN.
[40:54] SO I WANT TO THANK THE LEAD
[40:55] SPONSOR FOR FOR PUTTING THIS
[40:57] FORWARD BECAUSE UM THE AMOUNT
[40:59] OF EMAILS I'VE GOTTEN ABOUT AND
[41:01] AND THEY'RE ALL PEOPLE WHO
[41:02] HAVEN'T REACHED OUT TO
[41:03] ME BEFORE WHO HAVE JUST HEARD
[41:04] THAT THIS MIGHT BE A PROPOSAL
[41:06] THAT'S AT THE CITY COUNCIL.
[41:07] SO ON BEHALF OF MY DISTRICT, I
[41:09] JUST WANT TO SPEAK VERY
[41:10] STRONGLY THAT I BELIEVE THAT
[41:11] THESE THREE PRIORITIES, UM,
[41:13] SHOULD CONTINUE TO BE
[41:16] PRIORITIES IN THIS UM, IN THESE
[41:18] TRANCHES OF MONEY.
[41:19] AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK,
[41:21] YOU KNOW, 207 PROJECTS AND $62
[41:24] MILLION I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN
[41:25] GREAT STEWARDS OF THIS
[41:26] RESOURCE.
[41:27] UM, THE ONE QUESTION THAT I
[41:29] HAVE THAT IS INCREDIBLY
[41:30] IMPORTANT TO OUR DISTRICT IS
[41:32] HOW DO YOU REGISTER THE
[41:34] CONNECTION BETWEEN A PROJECT OR
[41:35] BUILDING AND THE CONNECTION
[41:36] THAT THAT BUILDING OR PROJECT
[41:38] HAS WITH THE COMMUNITY?
[41:40] BECAUSE OFTEN TIMES I SEE
[41:41] CERTAIN PROJECTS FUNDED THAT,
[41:43] YOU KNOW IT'S A BEAUTIFUL
[41:45] BUILDING IT IT NEEDS YOU KNOW,
[41:47] SPECIAL UM YOU KNOW IT NEEDS
[41:49] SPECIAL CARE.
[41:50] UM BUT THEN I SEE OTHER
[41:51] BUILDINGS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY
[41:53] MAYBE THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED
[41:55] CPA FUNDING AND WHEN THEY COME
[41:57] BACK IN THEY'RE LESS LIKELY TO
[41:59] RECEIVE FUNDING EVEN THOUGH
[42:00] THAT ONE BUILDING OR COMMUNITY
[42:02] SPACE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
[42:04] TO THE COMMUNITY.
[42:05] SO I JUST LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR
[42:08] THERE TO BE SOME WEIGHT GIVEN
[42:10] TO THE SIGNIFICANCE TO THE
[42:11] COMMUNITY.
[42:12] UM, AND THEN ALSO I JUST WANT
[42:14] TO KNOW HOW THAT IS HANDLED IN
[42:16] THE NINE PERSON, YOU KNOW,
[42:18] BOARD THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS
[42:20] THAT'S MAKING THESE DECISIONS.
[42:22] SURE.
[42:22] SO UH, A LOT OF THE PROJECTS
[42:24] THAT COME IN FOR UNDER HISTORIC
[42:27] PRESERVATION, UM, IF THEY'VE
[42:29] BEEN FUNDED BEFORE, THERE IS A
[42:31] PUBLIC BENEFIT SECTION WITHIN
[42:33] THE APPLICATION THAT THEY DO
[42:34] HAVE TO TO ANSWER AND RESPOND
[42:35] TO.
[42:37] WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE ARE
[42:38] PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING BACK
[42:39] FOR A MULTI-PHASE APPROACH AND
[42:42] WE AS A STAFF WE THINK ABOUT
[42:44] THIS AND WE PRESENT IT TO THE
[42:46] COMMITTEE WHEN WE CAN FUND A
[42:47] PROJECT AND GET MULTIPLE SCOPES
[42:49] OF WORK DONE AND GET IT OUT
[42:50] OF OUR PIPELINE.
[42:51] THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S
[42:52] COMPLETED AND DOES NOT NEED TO
[42:53] COME BACK AND THEN WE CAN FOCUS
[42:56] ON HELPING OTHER UM, HISTORIC
[42:59] PRESERVATION PROJECTS WITHIN
[43:00] THE COMMUNITY.
[43:01] IT ALSO DETERMINES THE NEED THE
[43:04] KIND OF INJURY, HARM OR
[43:06] DESTRUCTION THAT MAY BE
[43:06] HAPPENING TO THE BUILDING.
[43:08] AND SO WE MAY HAVE FUNDED A
[43:09] PROJECT AND IT COVERED ONE
[43:10] SCOPE OF WORK THAT'S COVERING
[43:12] ONE SIGNIFICANT INJURY THAT'S
[43:14] CAUSING INJURY AND HARM TO THE
[43:16] BUILDING.
[43:16] BUT THERE MAY BE OTHER FACTORS
[43:18] AND THINGS THAT ARE STILL
[43:19] CONTINUING TO HARM THAT
[43:20] BUILDING AND WE ARE HELPING
[43:23] THAT BUILDING KIND OF RESTORE
[43:24] AND PRESERVE ITSELF TO BE, YOU
[43:27] KNOW, GOOD STEWARDS SO THEY CAN
[43:29] START TO PROTECT THEIR BUILDING
[43:30] AND NOT HAVE TO RELY ON FUNDING
[43:32] BUT THEY CAN START TO RELY ON
[43:34] UM THEIR ONGOING MAINTENANCE
[43:35] PLAN THAT THEY MAY HAVE.
[43:37] SO IT IS A DIFFICULT DECISION
[43:39] BETWEEN THE SELECTION PROCESS
[43:41] OF UM PROJECTS THAT COME WITHIN
[43:43] THE AND THE HISTORIC
[43:44] PRESERVATION CATEGORY BECAUSE
[43:46] IT IS THE LARGEST REQUEST
[43:47] OF PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE
[43:49] THE COMMITTEE.
[43:49] BUT THERE IS A STRATEGY IN US
[43:52] TRYING TO HELP REALLY UH, LONG
[43:54] TERM BUILDINGS THAT HAVE UH,
[43:56] LONG TERM DISREPAIR ALSO TRYING
[43:58] TO, YOU KNOW, HELP THE NEEDS
[44:00] OF THOSE NEWER PROJECTS THAT
[44:01] ARE COMING IN.
[44:02] UM, TARA, COULD I JUST BRING UP
[44:03] QUICKLY ONE EXAMPLE AND I KNOW
[44:05] NOT A QUESTION HERE BUT UM
[44:08] YEAH.
[44:08] SO OUR UM WE HAVE UH, HILL
[44:11] HOUSE IN OUR DISTRICT THAT
[44:12] BASICALLY IS OUR COMMUNITY
[44:13] CENTER.
[44:14] WE DON'T HAVE A COMMUNITY
[44:15] CENTER.
[44:15] WE DON'T HAVE A VISA CENTER.
[44:16] UM, SO THAT IS AN OLD FIREHOUSE
[44:19] THAT WAS ACTUALLY PURCHASED
[44:19] FROM THE CITY OF BOSTON AND IT
[44:22] WAS AN OLD, UH, HISTORIC AND
[44:23] CITY BUILDING.
[44:24] UM, I'LL JUST BRING UP THAT
[44:26] EXAMPLE AS LIKE THAT COMMUNITY
[44:28] SPACE HAS WAY MORE SORT
[44:30] OF GRAVITAS AND IMPORTANCE
[44:32] BECAUSE IT'S USED BY THE
[44:33] COMMUNITY AND ALL OF OUR
[44:34] NEIGHBORHOOD KIDS.
[44:35] UM, THEN YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY
[44:37] A CHURCH THAT IS GREAT BUT
[44:39] COULD POTENTIALLY DO PRIVATE
[44:41] FUNDRAISING TO GET THE SAME
[44:42] RESULT.
[44:43] SO JUST WANT TO BE GREAT.
[44:44] I'M GRATEFUL TO THE NINE MEMBER
[44:45] BODY THAT MAKES THESE DIFFICULT
[44:47] AND HARD DECISIONS AND THANK
[44:49] YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
[44:49] THANK YOU.
[44:50] AND IF I COULD JUST RESPOND TO
[44:52] THE UM SO HILL HOUSE WE HAVE
[44:54] FUNDED TWICE AND I DO WANT TO
[44:55] SAY A LOT OF THE CHURCH
[44:57] BUILDINGS WERE NOT JUST FUNDING
[44:58] THEM BECAUSE THEY'RE CHURCHES.
[44:59] THEY ALSO HAVE TO PROVIDE A
[45:00] PUBLIC BENEFIT SO THEY COULD
[45:01] EITHER BE DOING FOOD DRIVES,
[45:03] HOLDING AA MEETINGS, HAVING
[45:05] COMMUNITY SPACES UM HAVING A
[45:08] SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF UM PUBLIC
[45:10] RESOURCES THAT THEY GIVE TO THE
[45:11] COMMUNITY.
[45:12] SO THAT IS A PUBLIC UM BENEFIT
[45:14] AND IMPACT THAT THE COMMITTEE
[45:15] REQUIRES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS
[45:17] HAPPENING IN THESE HISTORICAL
[45:19] SPACES.
[45:20] IT DOES HAVE TO PROVIDE A
[45:21] LARGER PUBLIC BENEFIT.
[45:23] THANK YOU.
[45:25] OKAY.
[45:25] NEXT WE HAVE
[45:26] COUNCILOR FITZGERALD.
[45:28] THANK YOU CHAIR NADEEN THANK.
[45:30] YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
[45:31] HOW ARE YOU?
[45:31] GOOD.
[45:31] HOW ARE YOU?
[45:32] GOOD.
[45:33] UM YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB
[45:34] ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
[45:35] SO SOME THINGS I HAVE, UH,
[45:36] LEARNED BUT JUST A COUPLE OTHER
[45:37] QUESTIONS.
[45:38] I IMAGINE WE COULD USE 100%
[45:41] OF SIPA TOWARDS AFFORDABLE.
[45:42] HOUSING GIVEN.
[45:42] THAT.
[45:43] WE NEED.
[45:43] SO MUCH.
[45:44] RIGHT.
[45:44] UM, BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU
[45:45] KEEPING THE BREAKDOWN AS.
[45:46] IS BECAUSE.
[45:47] I.
[45:47] THINK A LOT OF THE PRESERVATION
[45:48] AND OPEN SPACE PROJECTS THAT
[45:49] HAVE GONE FORWARD AND THAT
[45:50] STILL NEED TO GO FORWARD IN THE
[45:52] FUTURE ARE IMPORTANT.
[45:53] SO I APPRECIATE LEAVING THAT
[45:55] WIGGLE ROOM OF THAT EXTRA 10%
[45:57] TO DECIDE WHERE WE WANT TO ADD
[45:58] MORE GIVEN WHATEVER TIME WE'RE
[46:00] AT.
[46:00] UM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHATEVER THE
[46:02] ISSUE MAY BE UM, THE 100% AMI
[46:08] SO IT'S FOR THE PROJECTS THE
[46:09] AFFORDABLE HOUSING PIECE GOES
[46:10] FOR PROJECTS UP TO 100% AMI.
[46:12] YES UNDER THE STATUTE.
[46:14] YEP.
[46:15] SO 100% AM I AND BELOW.
[46:16] AM I CAN DIFFER RIGHT DEPENDING
[46:18] ON THE AREA THAT YOU'RE IN IT
[46:20] IS THE AREA MEDIAN INCOME.
[46:22] IS IT IS IT CAN WE GET MORE
[46:25] PROJECTS DONE IN AREAS THAT
[46:27] HAVE A LOWER AMI IF WE'RE UP TO
[46:29] YOU KNOW ON AVERAGE IF WE'RE UP
[46:32] TO YOU KNOW IF THAT AREA HAS A
[46:34] LOWER PROJECT WOULD IT BE COULD
[46:36] WE GET MORE DONE IN COMMUNITIES
[46:38] OF NEED OR ARE YOU ABLE TO DO
[46:40] MORE PROJECTS OR FUND MORE
[46:41] UNITS BASED ON THAT?
[46:43] OR IF THERE IS ONE WHERE THE
[46:45] 100% OF THE AM I MIGHT BE
[46:47] HIGHER THAN ANOTHER PART OF THE
[46:48] CITY?
[46:50] UM YOU KNOW THE MONEY DOESN'T
[46:51] GO AS FAR IF WE RUN INTO THAT
[46:53] ISSUE AT ALL.
[46:54] SO I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON AM I?
[46:56] SO I'M JUST I'M JUST GOING TO
[46:57] I'M JUST GOING TO NOTE THAT I
[46:58] WOULD SAY THAT IT DEPENDS ON
[47:00] THE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE COMING
[47:01] IN AND RESPONDING TO THE JOINT
[47:03] RFP AND WHAT THEIR MODEL IS AND
[47:07] THEIR FUNDING MODEL THAT
[47:09] THEY'RE PRESENTING TO ME AND
[47:11] UM, THE CPA SO I THINK IT ALL
[47:14] DEPENDS ON THE WHAT THE
[47:15] DEVELOPER IS BRINGING, HOW MANY
[47:17] UNITS THERE THEY'RE THINKING
[47:18] THAT THEY CAN BUILD AND HOW
[47:19] MUCH MONEY THAT THEY'RE GOING
[47:21] TO GET.
[47:21] AND I THINK THAT KIND OF DRIVES
[47:23] WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY
[47:24] WHAT THE AMI LEVEL COULD
[47:26] POTENTIALLY BE IN IN THAT
[47:27] HOUSING DEVELOPMENT.
[47:29] UM AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE
[47:32] MOST I CAN ANSWER FOR THAT
[47:33] QUESTION BUT UM BECAUSE THAT'S
[47:35] PROBABLY.
[47:36] MORE DO WE THINK IS THERE WHEN
[47:37] YOU LOOK AT WHICH PROJECTS TO
[47:39] FUND ON IN THE HOUSING PIECE IS
[47:41] IT DOES IT FALL LIKE IS THERE
[47:43] ANY CATEGORIES THAT YOU USE TO
[47:45] PRIORITIZE WHICH PROJECTS MIGHT
[47:47] GET IT AS IN LIKE THE MORE
[47:48] UNITS WE GIVE MORE WEIGHT IF
[47:50] IT'S A LARGER BUILDING THAT
[47:51] MIGHT PRODUCE MORE HOUSING AND
[47:53] THEREFORE WE'LL LOOK AT THAT
[47:54] MAYBE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER THAN
[47:56] SOMETHING THAT MIGHT JUST YOU
[47:57] KNOW, HEY HERE'S 10 TO 15 UNITS
[47:59] OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
[48:00] SURE THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO
[48:01] SUPPORT DEEPER AFFORDABILITY SO
[48:03] THEY DO WANT TO HELP UM, SOME
[48:05] OF THE THE THE PROJECTS UM TO
[48:08] HELP BRING DOWN THE AMI LEVELS
[48:10] TO 60, 70, 30% AMI HOMELESS SET
[48:14] ASIDE UNITS THEY LIKE THOSE
[48:15] KIND OF PROJECTS AND WANT TO
[48:17] SUPPORT THOSE KIND OF PROJECTS
[48:18] AND THEY LIKE TO SUPPORT
[48:20] HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS AND
[48:21] HOMEOWNERSHIP PROGRAMS.
[48:23] SO THE COMMITTEE DOES WANT TO
[48:24] SUPPORT UM DEEPER
[48:26] AFFORDABILITY.
[48:27] GREAT.
[48:28] UM, I NOTICED IN UH ONE
[48:30] OF THE BULLET POINTS HERE UNDER
[48:31] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS
[48:33] WE TALK ABOUT SUPPORTING
[48:34] VETERANS, SENIORS, ARTISTS,
[48:35] INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING
[48:36] HOMELESSNESS LIKE YOU JUST
[48:37] MENTIONED.
[48:38] UH, AND THE NEXT BULLET SAYS IT
[48:40] PRIORITIZES LOCAL RESIDENTS.
[48:41] UM, ARE THOSE TWO EXCLUSIVE OR
[48:44] IS THAT THE SAME LIKE WHEN
[48:45] WE'RE LOOKING AT WHO WE'RE
[48:46] SUPPORTING IS IT AND HOW DO WE
[48:48] DEFINE LOCAL RESIDENT WHEN YOU
[48:49] GUYS LOOK AT UH UM YOU KNOW,
[48:52] THE SHEET AND WHO WOULD WHO
[48:54] WE'RE TRYING TO TO SUPPORT?
[48:55] YEAH.
[48:55] AND I THINK I MADE THAT
[48:57] STATEMENT BECAUSE I YOU KNOW,
[48:58] THE COMMITTEE IS TRYING TO YOU
[49:00] KNOW, SUPPORT DEEPER AFFORDABLE
[49:02] UNITS SO FOLKS DON'T HAVE TO
[49:04] LEAVE THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS.
[49:05] AND SO THAT'S THE THE STATEMENT
[49:07] BY SAYING LOCAL RESIDENTS IS
[49:09] REALLY HAVING FOLKS BE ABLE TO
[49:10] STILL STAY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD
[49:11] IN WHICH THEY GREW UP TO STAY
[49:13] WITH THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY.
[49:14] AND SO THE GOAL OF SAYING THAT
[49:16] THEY WANT TO HAVE MORE DEEPER
[49:19] AFFORDABILITY IS THE GOAL THAT
[49:20] EFFORT UNITS ARE MORE
[49:21] AFFORDABLE.
[49:22] IT'S MORE LIKELY THAT THE
[49:23] RESIDENTS WITHIN THAT
[49:24] NEIGHBORHOOD ARE ABLE TO STAY
[49:25] BECAUSE THEY'RE ABLE TO AFFORD
[49:27] STAYING THERE.
[49:28] SO I GUESS WHAT I'M ASKING IS
[49:30] WHEN IT SAYS UH WHEN I TRY TO
[49:31] SAY LIKE WHAT IS DEFINING A
[49:33] LOCAL RESIDENT?
[49:34] IT JUST I OF COURSE THE IDEA IS
[49:35] SOMEONE GREW UP IN A
[49:37] NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU CAN STAY
[49:38] THERE BUT SOMEONE COULD JUST
[49:39] MOVE IN THE WEEK BEFORE AND
[49:41] STILL YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL
[49:43] UNDER THE CATEGORY OF A LOCAL
[49:45] RESIDENT.
[49:45] EXACTLY.
[49:46] IT'S NOT RENTING OR
[49:47] HOMEOWNERSHIP IS IT DOESN'T
[49:48] MATTER.
[49:49] YES YES YES IT'S FOR ALL YOU
[49:51] KNOW ALL THE PROJECTS THAT WE
[49:53] THAT CPA FUNDS ARE FOR ALL
[49:56] RESIDENTS AND ALL NEIGHBORHOODS
[49:57] .
[49:58] YEAH WE WANT.
[49:59] EXACTLY WE WANT FOLKS THAT GO
[50:02] TO DIFFERENT PARKS FROM
[50:03] CHARLESTOWN TO DORCHESTER.
[50:05] WE WANT DORCHESTER RESIDENTS TO
[50:06] TO VISIT A CHARLESTON PARK.
[50:08] YEAH WE WANT CHARLESTOWN
[50:09] RESIDENTS TO VISIT A ROXBURY
[50:10] PARK.
[50:11] SO ALL OF THESE SPACES ARE KIND
[50:12] OF OPEN FOR EVERYONE UM, TO
[50:14] VISIT AND THAT'S THE GOAL.
[50:15] GREAT.
[50:16] AND UH, THE LAST THING I'LL
[50:18] MENTION IF I HAVE A THERE'S A
[50:19] THERE'S A CHURCH IN MY
[50:20] DISTRICT, UH, A SEVENTH DAY
[50:22] ADVENTIST CHURCH HISPANIC
[50:23] SPEAKING WITH THE ONE ROUND
[50:25] JUST CLOSED.
[50:26] RIGHT.
[50:26] WE JUST CLOSE AT THE END
[50:27] OF AUGUST.
[50:28] SO IF I WERE THERE LOOKING AT
[50:30] POTENTIAL CPA FUNDS WHAT DO I
[50:31] WHAT'S WHAT'S THE BEST THING I
[50:32] GO BACK TO TELL THEM ON NEXT
[50:34] STEPS OF WHAT THEY CAN DO, HOW
[50:35] TO APPLY, ETC..
[50:36] SURE THEY CAN REACH OUT TO OUR
[50:38] OFFICE, THEY CAN REACH OUT TO
[50:40] ME AND WE'RE HAPPY TO TALK TO
[50:41] THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT
[50:42] THE NEEDS THAT THEY MAY HAVE
[50:44] FOR THE BUILDING AND DECIDING
[50:46] WHAT IF THEY'RE WHAT THEY'RE
[50:47] ASKING FOR IS THE ELIGIBLE
[50:48] SCOPE AND IS THERE UM PROJECT
[50:50] DOES THEIR BUILDING HISTORICAL
[50:52] AND WORKING WITH THE BOSTON
[50:53] LANDMARKS COMMISSION SO THEY
[50:54] CAN REACH OUT TO ME AND WE CAN
[50:56] ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
[50:57] AWESOME.
[50:57] I'LL HAVE THEM DO THAT AND
[50:59] THEN THANK YOU SO MUCH AS
[51:00] ALWAYS, UH, FOR YOUR TIME UP
[51:01] HERE AND YOUR GREAT ANSWERS.
[51:03] UH, CHAIR, THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[51:04] FOR THE TIME AS WELL.
[51:05] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR CAO.
[51:07] I ALSO JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE
[51:08] THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY
[51:10] COUNCILOR ROOTSY LOUIJEUNE.
[51:11] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[51:12] UM, NEXT WE'RE GOING TO GO WITH
[51:14] COUNCILOR BREADON.
[51:15] YOU HAVE.
[51:16] SEVEN MINUTES.
[51:17] THANK YOU.
[51:18] AND THANK.
[51:19] YOU DIRECTOR BROWN.
[51:20] SO GOOD TO SEE YOU AND THANK
[51:21] YOU FOR YOU.
[51:22] YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A
[51:23] WHILE AND YOUR INCREDIBLE
[51:24] LEADERSHIP HAS PAYING OFF.
[51:26] I THINK YOU HAVE A GREAT TEAM
[51:28] WORKING WITH YOU AND I REALLY
[51:29] DO APPRECIATE IT.
[51:30] THE THE CONSCIENTIOUS ATTENTION
[51:33] TO THE DETAILS AND TRYING TO BE
[51:35] YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR COMMITTEE
[51:36] WORKING TO MAKE IT A FAIR
[51:39] DISTRIBUTION OF ALL THESE
[51:40] INCREDIBLE ASSETS.
[51:41] UM, YOU KNOW, I, I DO SHARE UH
[51:44] THE SENTIMENT THAT ALL OF THESE
[51:46] CATEGORIES ARE INCREDIBLY
[51:47] IMPORTANT UH, HISTORIC
[51:50] PRESERVATION CAN ACTUALLY
[51:51] INVOLVE PRESERVING PRESERVATION
[51:53] OF HOUSING AS WELL, UH, OPEN
[51:55] SPACE AND AND UH, RECREATIONAL
[51:56] SPACE.
[51:57] AND THE ONE QUESTION I HAD IS,
[52:00] YOU KNOW, THE 10% THAT'S SORT
[52:02] OF THE DISCRETIONARY PORTION
[52:05] OF THE FUNDS.
[52:07] UM, IS IT IS IT ALWAYS JUST 10%
[52:09] AND DO WE ALWAYS DISTRIBUTED OR
[52:12] DO WE DO THE MOVE?
[52:15] IT GIVES YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY
[52:16] BUT HOW DOES THAT WORK.
[52:18] YEAH SO THE 10% RESERVE USUALLY
[52:20] BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A HIGH
[52:22] DEMAND UM TO FUND PROJECTS EACH
[52:24] FUNDING ROUND THE COMMITTEE HAS
[52:26] HISTORICALLY HAVE USED IT
[52:28] ACROSS UM HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[52:30] AND OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
[52:32] TO HELP FUND THOSE ADDITIONAL
[52:33] PROJECTS.
[52:34] THERE'S I THINK ONE FUNDING
[52:36] ROUND WHERE WE MAY HAVE HAD
[52:37] MAYBE $2,000 REMAINING OUT
[52:40] OF AND I'M NOT TOO SURE WHY WE
[52:41] DID.
[52:42] UM, BUT THAT THAT 10% IS
[52:45] USUALLY BEING USED.
[52:46] YEAH, YEAH.
[52:48] UM AND UM AND I'M SORRY THAT
[52:49] THERE'S NO ONE HERE FROM THE
[52:50] MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING.
[52:51] A LOT OF MY QUESTIONS RELATED
[52:53] TO HOUSING SO I WON'T UH I
[52:55] WON'T IMPOSE ON YOU TO ASK TOO
[52:57] MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
[52:58] BUT THE BOSTON ACQUISITION FUND
[53:00] IS IT A STANDARD?
[53:02] UM, A BLOCK OF MONEY THAT'S
[53:04] GIVEN EVERY YEAR OR DOES IT
[53:05] FLOAT AS WELL?
[53:07] NO.
[53:07] SO THE ACQUISITION FUND WAS
[53:09] FUNDED IN TWO YEARS AND THEN
[53:11] THERE WAS A SERIES OF YEARS
[53:13] SEVERAL YEARS WHERE IT DID NOT
[53:15] COME IN FOR FUNDING.
[53:16] SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME UM IN
[53:18] THIS FY 27 FUNDING ROUND THAT
[53:20] THE ACQUISITION FUND IS COMING
[53:22] BACK TO CPA.
[53:23] WE'VE ONLY FUNDED THEM TWICE
[53:24] AND I WANT TO SAY IT WAS IN
[53:27] 2019 AND 2020 AND THEY HAVE NOT
[53:30] COME BACK TO US.
[53:31] UNTIL UNTIL NOW.
[53:33] THERE'S SOMETIMES UH WE FIND
[53:34] OURSELVES IN THE MOMENT WHERE
[53:37] UM THE ABILITY TO ACQUIRE UH,
[53:39] FOR A NONPROFIT OR TO SUPPORT
[53:41] THE ACQUISITION OF A PROPERTY
[53:43] AND TAKE IT OUT OF THE
[53:44] SPECULATIVE MARKET.
[53:45] AND THERE'S A LOT OF THOSE
[53:46] OPPORTUNITIES COMING UP NOW.
[53:47] SO I'M PLEASED TO SEE THAT
[53:49] THEY'RE COMING BACK FOR THAT
[53:50] UM, MONEY THIS YEAR.
[53:52] UH, AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE
[53:54] THE THE ONE PLUS BOSTON THAT
[53:55] YOU KNOW IT SEEMS CPA I I'M
[53:57] FULLY IN SUPPORT OF IT I THINK
[53:59] IT'S AN INCREDIBLE PROGRAM LIKE
[54:01] A 1000 FOR TIME HOMEOWNERS UH
[54:04] GOT AN AVERAGE OF $22,693 FOR
[54:09] THE HELP OF WITH DOWNPAYMENT OR
[54:11] BUYING DONE POINTS AND THEIR
[54:13] MORTGAGE.
[54:13] IS THAT, UM IS THAT HOW
[54:16] SUCCESSFUL DO YOU THINK THAT'S
[54:18] BEEN IN TERMS OF UH, OPENING UP
[54:20] HOMEOWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR
[54:22] FOLKS?
[54:22] OH THAT'S BEEN TRANSFORMATIONAL
[54:24] .
[54:24] THAT PROGRAM HAS HELPED A LOT
[54:27] OF FIRST TIME UM FIRST TIME
[54:30] HOMEOWNERS UM THAT ARE THAT DID
[54:34] NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE
[54:36] HOMEOWNERS BEFORE HELPING TO
[54:38] BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH THAT
[54:40] THAT PROGRAM IS EXTREMELY
[54:42] SUCCESSFUL.
[54:44] UM I KNOW WE ARE APPROACHING
[54:46] WE'VE JUST HAD THE 250TH UM
[54:49] ANNIVERSARY OF THE REVOLUTION.
[54:51] WE'RE HEADING TOWARDS THE 400TH
[54:53] BIRTHDAY OF THE CITY OF BOSTON
[54:55] IN 2030.
[54:56] UM ARE WE ARE WE HAVING BIGGER
[55:00] LIKE MORE STRATEGIC
[55:01] CONVERSATIONS OR IS THIS EVEN
[55:02] THE SPACE TO HAVE THOSE
[55:03] CONVERSATIONS ABOUT TARGETING,
[55:06] UM, MONEY FOR HISTORIC
[55:07] PRESERVATION AS WE APPROACH
[55:09] THIS REALLY MOMENTOUS
[55:10] ANNIVERSARY FOR THE CITY?
[55:12] UM, I WOULD SAY WHEN WE HAVE
[55:14] NOT STARTED TO HAVE ANY
[55:16] OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
[55:17] UM, NOT.
[55:18] WITH THE COMMITTEE.
[55:19] I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING AT
[55:21] THE PROJECTS THAT COME BEFORE
[55:22] US WITH THE CRITICAL NEED.
[55:24] UM, REALLY YOU KNOW WHAT
[55:27] PROJECTS ARE WELCOME TO COME IN
[55:29] FOR CPA FUNDING?
[55:30] UM, AND THE COMMITTEE IS ALWAYS
[55:32] OPEN TO SUPPORT PROJECTS THAT
[55:34] ARE COMING BEFORE THEM IN THE
[55:35] HISTORIC PRESERVATION CATEGORY
[55:37] .
[55:37] BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'VE HAD
[55:39] A DETAILED CONVERSATIONS AROUND
[55:41] UM, THAT STRATEGIC PLAN AROUND
[55:43] THE.
[55:43] 400TH ANNIVERSARY.
[55:46] UM, I KNOW AND IN IN AS A AS
[55:51] THE CITY AS A DISTRICT
[55:52] COUNCIL FOR ARTS AND BRIGHTON
[55:53] I'M ALWAYS VERY A SHARP EYE UM
[55:56] ON OUR ABILITY TO GET FUNDS.
[55:57] I THINK PART OF IT IS UM HAVING
[56:01] SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS TO
[56:02] WRITE THE GRANT, WRITE THE RFP
[56:04] AND AND GET IN THE DOOR TO HAVE
[56:06] THE CONVERSATION.
[56:08] UM, I THINK THAT'S REFLECTIVE
[56:09] IN THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, IF
[56:12] IF IF IT'S A HISTORIC
[56:14] PRESERVATION PROJECT PERHAPS I
[56:15] THINK THAT'S THE ONE THAT WE
[56:16] MAYBE HAVE THE MOST DIFFICULTY
[56:18] MAKING THE CASE FOR UM, UH, IF
[56:21] IT'S A HOUSING PROJECT OR A
[56:24] GREEN SPACE AND RECREATION ONE
[56:26] THING PARKS DEPARTMENT AND
[56:28] HOUSING MAYOR'S OFFICE
[56:28] OF HOUSING ARE VERY INVOLVED IN
[56:29] THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
[56:32] IS IT A WAY FOR SMALL COMMUNITY
[56:35] ORGANIZATIONS TO GET I KNOW YOU
[56:36] DO A GREAT JOB WITH OUTREACH,
[56:38] BUT IS THERE MORE THAT WE CAN
[56:39] DO TO HELP ENABLE THEM TO MAKE
[56:41] BETTER PITCHES FOR UM,
[56:43] ESPECIALLY IN THE AREA
[56:44] OF HISTORIC PRESERVATION FOR
[56:45] SOME OF THESE SMALLER PROJECTS?
[56:47] YEAH, I THINK UM, AS A TEAM I'M
[56:50] ALWAYS THINKING ABOUT THAT LIKE
[56:52] HOW CAN WE TALK TO MORE PEOPLE
[56:54] WHETHER IT'S EVEN ON A ONE ON
[56:55] ONE BASIS?
[56:56] I KNOW WE DO HOST THESE UM,
[56:58] MEET AND GREETS AND INFORMATION
[57:00] SESSIONS BUT REALLY IF FOLKS
[57:02] HAVE A PROJECT AND YOU KNOW,
[57:05] THEY THINK CPA FUNDS MAY BE
[57:06] ELIGIBLE REALLY COMING AND
[57:08] TALKING TO US OR ASKING US TO
[57:09] COME OUT, WE REALLY WANT TO
[57:10] HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS
[57:11] BECAUSE WHAT WE ARE LEARNING
[57:13] AND WHAT WE HAVE LEARNED IS
[57:14] THAT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO HAVE
[57:17] HISTORICAL BUILDINGS HAVE NO
[57:18] KNOWLEDGE OF HOW TO MAINTAIN
[57:20] THEM.
[57:20] YEAH, THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT A
[57:21] CONDITION'S ASSESSMENT IS.
[57:23] THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT THEY
[57:24] HAVE NEEDED.
[57:24] THEY'VE BEEN HIRING A
[57:26] CONTRACTOR TO DO PARTICULAR
[57:27] WORK THAT'S PROBABLY NOT
[57:29] SUITABLE WORK, UM TO SUPPORT
[57:31] THEIR BUILDING.
[57:32] SO WE'RE TRYING TO EDUCATE THEM
[57:34] MORE ABOUT HOW CPA FUNDS WORK
[57:36] AND HOW OUR FUNDS COULD BE USED
[57:38] TO HELP THEM.
[57:39] AND SO REALLY WANTING THEM TO
[57:41] REALLY REACH OUT AND COME TO US
[57:43] SO WE CAN KIND OF HAVE THESE
[57:44] CONVERSATIONS AND SO WE CAN
[57:45] WORK WITH OUR OTHER CITY
[57:46] PARTNERS TO SEE IF WE CAN HELP
[57:47] THEM.
[57:48] THAT'S THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE I
[57:49] THINK THAT THAT KNOWLEDGE BASE
[57:51] ABOUT CONDITIONS, ASSESSMENTS
[57:52] AND THINGS ARE SO CRITICAL TO
[57:54] UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT THE
[57:56] NEEDS ARE AND THEN HOW BIG IS
[57:57] THE HOW MUCH HOW MUCH RESOURCES
[58:00] DO WE NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE
[58:02] AND ISSUE IN SOME POSITIONS
[58:04] LIKE THE HILL MEMORIAL UM
[58:07] CHURCH WHICH IS GOING TO BE
[58:08] SENIOR HOUSING, IT'S ALSO A
[58:10] HISTORIC BUILDING.
[58:10] HOW DO YOU NAVIGATE THE SPACE
[58:12] WHERE A PROJECT WILL LIKELY FIT
[58:15] UNDER TWO CATEGORIES?
[58:16] UH, THAT OR DOES THAT COME UP
[58:18] OFTEN?
[58:19] SURE, YES.
[58:20] AND SO IF A PROJECT IS UM HAS
[58:22] FUNDING IN TWO CATEGORIES, WE
[58:23] DO ASK THEM TO SPLIT THAT OUT
[58:25] AND SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY
[58:27] FOR THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[58:28] CATEGORY AND THEY WOULD HAVE TO
[58:30] APPLY FOR THE HISTORIC
[58:31] PRESERVATION CATEGORY JUST
[58:32] BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REALLY THINK
[58:34] ABOUT THE FUNDING IN EACH
[58:35] OF THOSE CATEGORIES AND WE HAVE
[58:38] TO REALLY DEFINE THE SCOPE
[58:39] OF WORK AND THERE HAVE BEEN
[58:40] PROJECTS THAT HAVE RECEIVED UM
[58:43] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE OPEN
[58:45] SPACE OR UM YEAH, IT'S
[58:48] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OPEN
[58:49] SPACE AND RECREATION.
[58:50] WE HAVE A FEW PROJECTS THAT
[58:51] HAVE DONE THAT AND HAVE
[58:53] RECEIVED FUNDING IN THE SAME IN
[58:55] THE SAME FUNDING ROUND.
[58:56] OKAY.
[58:57] WONDERFUL.
[58:57] THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU
[58:58] SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK I REALLY
[59:00] APPRECIATE IT.
[59:00] THANK YOU THANK YOU.
[59:02] THANK YOU COUNCILOR LOUIJEUNE.
[59:05] THANK YOU SO.
[59:06] MUCH MR CHAIR.
[59:07] AND THANK YOU UM.
[59:09] TO COUNCIL OUR FOR.
[59:09] THIS FILING AND TO EVERYONE FOR
[59:11] BEING HERE.
[59:12] UH THANK YOU DEAN UH.
[59:14] FOR JUST YOUR.
[59:16] ,UM, WORK.
[59:17] YOUR UM.
[59:18] DEDICATION TO THIS.
[59:19] YOU ARE.
[59:19] ALWAYS ON.
[59:20] POINT IN EVERY WAY AND I.
[59:21] I'VE ALWAYS BEEN.
[59:22] A DATING FAN, SO, UH, GRATEFUL
[59:24] TO HAVE YOU HERE.
[59:25] YOU'VE ALWAYS.
[59:25] BEEN AN.
[59:26] AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVOCATE.
[59:27] I KNOW FROM BEFORE THE SHOW AND
[59:28] KNOW THAT THE WORK THAT YOU
[59:29] DID.
[59:29] WITH MY HEART AND I'M JUST
[59:30] GRATEFUL FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP IN
[59:31] THE CITY.
[59:32] UM.
[59:33] I HAVE, UH.
[59:34] I GUESS A FEW QUESTIONS AND
[59:36] I GUESS I HAVE A COMMENT
[59:37] EARLIER AND I THINK AND I
[59:38] ANYONE CAN CONFIRM WITH
[59:40] ME LATER BUT LIKE THE THERE WAS
[59:41] A PREVIOUS QUESTION FROM A
[59:42] COLLEAGUE ABOUT AM I FUNDING
[59:44] AND ABOUT ABOUT AM I THE AREA
[59:47] MEDIAN INCOME AND COULD YOU
[59:48] VARY ACROSS THE CITY OF THE
[59:49] CITY SUBJECT TO AM I AS A
[59:51] REGIONAL UH NUMBER PERCENTAGE
[59:54] AND SO THERE'S THE SAME I'M
[59:56] LOOKING AT SOME OF MY DEVELOPER
[59:57] FRIENDS SAME AM I THROUGHOUT
[59:58] THE CITY OF BOSTON.
[1:00:00] SO IT'S NOT AS THOUGH YOU COULD
[1:00:01] DO SOMETHING FOR THE BACK BAY
[1:00:03] OR YOU COULD DO SOMETHING
[1:00:04] DIFFERENT FOR DORCHESTER IT'S
[1:00:06] ONE CITY AS AM I, WHICH IS UH
[1:00:07] CAUSE OF YOU KNOW, OFTENTIMES
[1:00:10] CONCERNED WHEN PEOPLE LIKE
[1:00:11] AFFORDABLE FOR WHO MY
[1:00:12] UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT'S A SET
[1:00:13] BY FEDERAL LAW AND AN ISSUE BUT
[1:00:15] BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU
[1:00:16] CAN DO EVEN THOUGH IF IT'S 100%
[1:00:18] AM I IN THE BACK BAY MEANS THE
[1:00:19] SAME AS 100% IN DORCHESTER AS
[1:00:21] YOU COULD ADJUST YOU COULD
[1:00:23] DEEPEN THE AFFORDABILITY AND I
[1:00:25] WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT BECAUSE
[1:00:26] IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT I
[1:00:27] HAVE BEEN SITTING IN OUR
[1:00:29] MEETINGS WITH FOLKS IN.
[1:00:30] THE.
[1:00:30] ROOM, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LOOKING
[1:00:32] FOR DEEPER AFFORDABILITY
[1:00:32] BECAUSE UNDER ARM I IF I
[1:00:34] REMEMBER THE NUMBERS LIKE
[1:00:35] SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 92 115 AND
[1:00:37] FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR A LOT
[1:00:39] OF BLACK AND BROWN RESIDENTS
[1:00:40] THAT THEY'RE NOT HITTING THAT.
[1:00:42] AND SO I DO WANT US TO EXPLORE.
[1:00:44] AND WANT TO.
[1:00:45] ENCOURAGE DEEPER AFFORDABILITY
[1:00:47] BECAUSE IT'S HOW WE MAKE SURE
[1:00:48] THAT WE ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE
[1:00:50] CAN PREVENT DISPLACEMENT, ONE
[1:00:51] OF THE WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE
[1:00:52] SURE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T SAYING
[1:00:53] OH, NONE OF THESE BUILDINGS ARE
[1:00:54] HAPPENING FOR US.
[1:00:55] SO UM, WHATEVER BOTH WHATEVER
[1:00:57] WE CAN DO FOR THAT IS
[1:00:58] IMPORTANT.
[1:00:59] AND MY.
[1:01:00] UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE CITY
[1:01:02] OF BOSTON COMPARED TO I MEAN
[1:01:04] PROBABLY WITH THE EXCEPTION
[1:01:05] OF A.
[1:01:05] FEW.
[1:01:05] AND YOU.
[1:01:06] CAN GET IT IN THE REPORT IT WAS
[1:01:07] AT CAMBRIDGE SPENDS.
[1:01:08] UH.
[1:01:09] A LARGER PERCENTAGE ON
[1:01:10] AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT COMPARED
[1:01:11] TO MOST OTHER MUNICIPALITIES
[1:01:13] AND LOCALITIES, OUR PERCENTAGE
[1:01:14] UH, THAT WE SPEND ON HOUSING ON
[1:01:16] AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS HIGHER
[1:01:18] THAN MOST.
[1:01:18] IS THAT CORRECT?
[1:01:19] I WOULD SAY YES.
[1:01:20] BY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS BY A
[1:01:22] LITTLE LIKE WHERE DO WE STAND
[1:01:23] IN JUXTAPOSITION TO HOW OTHER
[1:01:25] AND HOW MANY OTHER
[1:01:26] MUNICIPALITIES HAVE ADOPTED CPI
[1:01:27] ?
[1:01:28] UM I WANT TO SAY OVER THERE'S
[1:01:30] OVER 100.
[1:01:30] OKAY CITIES AND TOWNS THAT HAVE
[1:01:32] ADOPTED CPR.
[1:01:34] I, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT
[1:01:36] NUMBER OF WHAT OTHER
[1:01:37] COMMUNITIES ARE DOING I FOR
[1:01:39] CAMBRIDGE I DO KNOW THEY USE A
[1:01:40] SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT AND I WANT
[1:01:41] TO SAY FOR BOSTON WE'RE USING A
[1:01:43] SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDING.
[1:01:44] I DO WANT TO SAY UH A LOT
[1:01:46] OF THE OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS
[1:01:47] ARE USING IT FOR HISTORIC
[1:01:49] PRESERVATION.
[1:01:50] UM, AND UM ACQUISITION OF LAND
[1:01:53] .
[1:01:53] YEAH.
[1:01:53] I MEAN I'M AND I'M A CITY
[1:01:55] COUNCILOR IN BOSTON NOT THOSE
[1:01:56] OTHER TOWNS BUT I THINK THAT'S
[1:01:57] ALSO PART OF THE PROBLEM LIKE
[1:01:58] WHEN WE SEE RESISTANCE WHETHER
[1:01:59] IT'S MTA COMMUNITIES OR
[1:02:01] WHATEVER WE YOU KNOW, IF
[1:02:02] THERE'S A WAY TO STEER THEM TO
[1:02:03] BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE
[1:02:04] HOUSING.
[1:02:05] UM, I YOU KNOW, I LOVE IT FOR
[1:02:07] US IS THINK ABOUT HOW WE GET
[1:02:08] MORE REVENUE TO DO THE WORK
[1:02:09] OF DEEPENING AFFORDABILITY
[1:02:10] BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE
[1:02:11] ARE A NUMBER OF PROJECTS
[1:02:12] WHETHER IT BE FOR HISTORIC
[1:02:13] PRESERVATION OR OFTENTIMES FOR
[1:02:15] A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD
[1:02:17] OTHERWISE YOU KNOW, I HEARD
[1:02:19] COUNCILOR DURKAN TALK ABOUT OH,
[1:02:20] WELL, THEY COULD YOU KNOW,
[1:02:22] CHURCHES OR WHATEVER THEY MAY
[1:02:24] BE ABLE TO FUNDRAISE FOR THIS
[1:02:25] MONEY BUT THERE ARE A LOT THAT
[1:02:26] ACTUALLY CAN'T THEY DON'T HAVE
[1:02:28] THE CAPACITY.
[1:02:28] THEY'RE ALREADY DOING SO MUCH
[1:02:30] AND WE KNOW THAT THIS HAS BEEN
[1:02:32] UM VERY HELPFUL FOR THEM I, I
[1:02:35] DO I GUESS I HAVE TWO OTHER
[1:02:37] QUESTIONS AND I HAVE THREE
[1:02:38] MINUTES AND 30S LEFT ONE IS A
[1:02:40] FEW WEEKS AGO BOTH THIS UH THE
[1:02:42] CHAIR TRIP HAPPENED UH, BEFORE
[1:02:44] THIS BODY THERE WAS A.
[1:02:45] UH.
[1:02:47] REALLOCATION I BELIEVE IT
[1:02:48] WAS TO NEXT YEAR FOR THE REMAIN
[1:02:50] FOR THE A CPA MONEY THAT HAD
[1:02:52] GONE UNSPENT.
[1:02:53] CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE
[1:02:54] SITUATION, THE SCENARIOS IN
[1:02:55] WHICH THERE'S MONEY REMAINING
[1:02:57] AT THE END OF THE CPA FISCAL
[1:02:58] YEAR?
[1:02:59] SURE.
[1:03:00] UM, YES.
[1:03:01] SO THERE WAS 7 MILLION THAT WAS
[1:03:02] BROUGHT BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE
[1:03:04] COMMITTEE AND THAT NUMBER WAS
[1:03:05] SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER AS WELL
[1:03:07] BECAUSE WE HAD A POOL OF FUNDS
[1:03:09] FROM THE BOSTON OPEN SPACE
[1:03:11] ACQUISITION FUND.
[1:03:12] THEY WERE RETURNING SOME FUNDS
[1:03:14] IN ORDER TO REAPPLY FOR THESE
[1:03:16] FUNDS IN FY 27 TO MAKE IT ONE
[1:03:19] SINGLE GRANT.
[1:03:20] AND SO THAT WAS THAT 2 MILLION
[1:03:22] NUMBER IN THAT 7 MILLION WAS A
[1:03:24] CHUNK OF THAT FROM THAT OPEN
[1:03:25] SPACE FUND.
[1:03:26] BUT A LOT OF THE OTHER REVERTED
[1:03:28] FUNDS ARE FOR PROJECTS THAT ARE
[1:03:30] COMPLETED UNDER BUDGET.
[1:03:32] SO UM A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT WE
[1:03:34] FUND ARE COMPLETED UNDER BUDGET
[1:03:36] AND THOSE FUNDS THE UNDER THE
[1:03:38] LAW THOSE FUNDS NEED TO COME
[1:03:39] BACK TO CPA AND AND WITHIN THAT
[1:03:41] NUMBER THERE ARE SOME
[1:03:42] AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS
[1:03:43] THAT DID NEED TO WITHDRAW AND
[1:03:45] THOSE FUNDS ARE ALSO
[1:03:47] REALLOCATED BACK TO CPA.
[1:03:48] SO IT'S A COMBINATION
[1:03:49] OF PROJECTS THAT COULD NOT MOVE
[1:03:51] FORWARD AND THEY ARE RETURNING
[1:03:53] THEIR ENTIRE FUNDS AND THESE
[1:03:54] ARE UM AND FUNDING FOR PROJECTS
[1:03:56] THAT WEREN'T COMPLETED BUT THEY
[1:03:58] DIDN'T NEED ALL THE FUNDS THAT
[1:03:59] THEY WERE AWARDED AND NOW IT'S
[1:04:01] UH REALLOCATED BACK INTO THE
[1:04:02] POT OF FUNDS.
[1:04:03] THANK YOU.
[1:04:04] IS THERE A PARTICULAR TYPE
[1:04:05] OF PROJECT THAT YOU TEND TO SEE
[1:04:06] UNDERFUNDED LIKE NOT NOT
[1:04:08] UNDERFUNDED.
[1:04:09] SORRY.
[1:04:09] THAT COMES UNDER BUDGET?
[1:04:11] UM.
[1:04:12] IT IT'S A VARIETY OF REASONS
[1:04:14] I WOULD SAY IN SPACE IT YES IT
[1:04:15] COULD BE.
[1:04:16] A HOUSING PROJECT.
[1:04:17] YES I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY
[1:04:19] IT'S LESS FOR HOUSING.
[1:04:20] WE HAVE.
[1:04:20] WE'VE HAD UM YES WE WE'VE HAD
[1:04:23] SOME HOUSING PROJECTS THAT HAVE
[1:04:25] COME IN UNDER BUDGET BUT IT'S
[1:04:26] VERY RARE THAT IT HAPPENS.
[1:04:27] IT'S MOSTLY HAPPENING IN UM
[1:04:30] OPEN SPACE AND RECREATION
[1:04:32] PROJECTS WHERE UM AND AND
[1:04:34] HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS
[1:04:36] WHERE THE FUNDS ARE JUST
[1:04:37] COMPLETED UNDER BUDGET AND THEN
[1:04:39] THE THE LARGER MILLION DOLLAR
[1:04:40] NUMBER MAY BE UM FOR A PROJECT
[1:04:42] WITHIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT
[1:04:44] COULD NOT MOVE FORWARD.
[1:04:45] ON AVERAGE HOW MUCH ARE YOU
[1:04:47] SEEING RETURNED.
[1:04:49] ON AVERAGE?
[1:04:50] SO THIS IS A HIGHEST YEAR
[1:04:51] BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET TO REVERT
[1:04:53] THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
[1:04:54] UM I THINK IT IT VARIES IT
[1:04:56] VARIES AND HOW IT WENT.
[1:04:57] WHEN WAS CPA ENACTED AGAIN.
[1:04:59] WAS IT 2017?
[1:05:01] UM SO THE BALLOT INITIATIVE WAS
[1:05:03] IN 2016 OKAY.
[1:05:04] AND THEN UM 2017 THAT'S WHEN
[1:05:07] THE CITY STARTED TO COLLECT
[1:05:08] OKAY.
[1:05:09] AND SO WE HAVE A UM WE HAVE
[1:05:10] NINE YEARS OF DATA.
[1:05:11] NINE YEARS NINE WE HAVE
[1:05:13] SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED NINE
[1:05:14] FUNDING ROUNDS GOING GOING INTO
[1:05:16] OUR 10TH FUNDING ROUND THIS
[1:05:17] YEAR.
[1:05:18] THANK YOU.
[1:05:18] AND UH WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE.
[1:05:20] NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVEN'T
[1:05:21] RECEIVED CPA FUNDING FOR
[1:05:23] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, DO YOU HAVE
[1:05:26] REASONS WHY DO YOU EVER
[1:05:27] ENCOURAGE PROJECTS AND OR
[1:05:28] NEIGHBORHOODS AS A WAY?
[1:05:30] RIGHT.
[1:05:31] SO YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT
[1:05:32] HOW THERE ARE OTHER TOWNS AND
[1:05:33] CITIES THAT ARE PRIORITIZING
[1:05:34] HISTORIC PRESERVATION OVER THE
[1:05:37] OTHER OVER OPEN SPACE.
[1:05:39] WELL, LET'S SAY AT LEAST OVER
[1:05:41] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[1:05:42] UM, AND WE'RE SAYING YOU KNOW,
[1:05:44] I'M SAYING THEY NEED TO BE MORE
[1:05:45] BUILDING MORE AFFORDABLE
[1:05:46] HOUSING.
[1:05:46] BUT WE LOOK IN OUR CITY AND WE
[1:05:47] LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS.
[1:05:48] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS BUILT
[1:05:50] SOMETIMES MORE IN CERTAIN
[1:05:51] NEIGHBORHOODS THAN IN OTHERS
[1:05:52] LIKE LET'S SAY ROXBURY OR
[1:05:54] DORCHESTER OR MATTAPAN, JAMAICA
[1:05:55] PLAIN.
[1:05:56] UM, ARE WE DOING ANYTHING TO
[1:05:58] ENCOURAGE THE CREATION THROUGH
[1:05:59] FOR THE CREATION OR THE SUPPORT
[1:06:01] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS
[1:06:02] IN NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE
[1:06:03] LOWER RATES OF AFFORDABLE
[1:06:04] HOUSING?
[1:06:04] YEAH, I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS
[1:06:06] WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
[1:06:08] OF HOUSING TO SEE MORE PROJECTS
[1:06:10] IN IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
[1:06:12] I KNOW WE'VE FUNDED SOME
[1:06:13] PROJECTS IN WEST ROXBURY AND
[1:06:15] THE FENWAY KENMORE AREA.
[1:06:16] THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT WE
[1:06:17] FIND IT.
[1:06:18] SO YES, WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO
[1:06:20] LOOK AND SUPPORT THOSE UM
[1:06:22] PROJECTS THAT WE DO SEE COME IN
[1:06:23] THAT RESPOND TO THE RFP AND SO
[1:06:26] IT'S IT'S REALLY DEPENDING ON
[1:06:28] WHO RESPONDS TO THE RFP AND
[1:06:29] WHAT NEIGHBORHOOD THEY'RE
[1:06:30] THEY'RE BUILDING IN.
[1:06:31] BUT AGAIN IN IN OUR KIND
[1:06:33] OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, UM,
[1:06:37] YOU KNOW, GOING OUT TO THE
[1:06:38] COMMUNITY.
[1:06:38] YES, WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO TO
[1:06:40] CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE UM,
[1:06:43] HOUSING THROUGH ALL
[1:06:44] NEIGHBORHOODS WITHIN THE CITY
[1:06:45] OF BOSTON BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED
[1:06:46] .
[1:06:47] I THINK THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS
[1:06:48] HERE.
[1:06:49] THANK YOU.
[1:06:50] COUNCILOR.
[1:06:51] UM, I JUST GIVE MY MYSELF SOME
[1:06:53] TIME.
[1:06:54] I WANT TO, UM, JUST ECHO
[1:06:56] EVERYONE'S SENTIMENTS
[1:06:58] OF APPRECIATION FOR THE WORK
[1:06:59] THAT YOU DO.
[1:07:00] I REMEMBER THAT EARLIER THIS
[1:07:02] YEAR I WAS ABLE TO.
[1:07:04] AS BOTH THE CHAIR OF THE
[1:07:05] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[1:07:05] COMMITTEE AND THE CHAIR OF THE
[1:07:07] HOUSING COMMITTEE, I WAS ABLE
[1:07:08] TO BE AT AN EVENT WHERE WE WERE
[1:07:10] UM LOOKING AT THE HOUSING
[1:07:12] PROJECTS THAT WERE GETTING SOME
[1:07:14] OF THEM I BELIEVE WERE ALL
[1:07:14] OF THEM.
[1:07:15] WERE.
[1:07:15] GETTING CPA FUNDING AND WHAT
[1:07:16] WHAT WAS BEAUTIFUL TO SEE WAS
[1:07:18] THE DIVERSE UM TYPE OF PROJECTS
[1:07:20] THAT WERE GETTING FUNDED AND
[1:07:23] ACROSS THE CITY NOT JUST IN ONE
[1:07:25] OR SPECIFIC REGION OF THE CITY
[1:07:26] .
[1:07:27] AND THAT WAS REALLY ENCOURAGING
[1:07:28] TO SEE THAT THAT'S THE WORK
[1:07:29] THAT YOU ARE DOING IN REGARDS
[1:07:31] TO YOUR HOUSING, UM, PORTION
[1:07:34] OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:07:35] PORTION OF YOUR FUNDS.
[1:07:37] UM, BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT ONE
[1:07:39] OF THEM UM, WAS A BONNYBRIDGE
[1:07:43] PROJECT IN MY I THINK IN MY
[1:07:44] DISTRICT THEY THEY WERE ONE
[1:07:46] OF THE ONES THAT HAD TO PULL TO
[1:07:47] PULL OUT WAGE BECAUSE THEY
[1:07:49] DIDN'T GET ANOTHER GRANT SO NOW
[1:07:50] THEY HAVE TO REAPPLY NEXT YEAR.
[1:07:52] SO I UNDERSTAND ALSO THE
[1:07:54] DIFFICULTIES THAT A LOT
[1:07:55] OF THESE UM DEVELOPERS DEAL
[1:07:57] WITH TO TRY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE
[1:07:59] HOUSING IN OUR CITY.
[1:08:00] IT'S NOT EASY.
[1:08:01] UM THEY DON'T THEY DON'T JUST
[1:08:03] RELY ON CPA GRANTS TO DEPEND ON
[1:08:05] STATE GRANTS AND OTHER GRANTS
[1:08:06] ACROSS THE ACROSS THE THE
[1:08:09] PLATFORM.
[1:08:09] BUT I ALSO JUST WANT TO GIVE
[1:08:11] KUDOS TO UM SOMEONE THAT'S IN
[1:08:14] THE ROOM FRANK O'BRIEN WHO WHO
[1:08:16] WORKED ON THE READING ROOM
[1:08:17] PROJECT IN MY DISTRICT AND
[1:08:18] REVELL AND I BRING THAT ONE UP
[1:08:20] BECAUSE IT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE
[1:08:22] OF A HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:08:24] PROJECT IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH
[1:08:26] IS WHY I AM A BIG FAN OF ALSO
[1:08:28] HISTORIC PRESERVATION AND OPEN
[1:08:30] SPACE.
[1:08:30] I PREVIOUS COLLEAGUES SAID THAT
[1:08:32] I DO LIKE THE WAY THAT YOU
[1:08:34] BALANCE IT OUT BECAUSE ALL
[1:08:36] THREE ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
[1:08:38] I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SEE NEW
[1:08:39] PLAYGROUNDS BE BUILT IN MY
[1:08:41] DISTRICT BECAUSE OF YOUR UM CPA
[1:08:44] GRANTS.
[1:08:44] OBVIOUSLY YOUR READING ROOM UM
[1:08:45] WAS ABLE TO BE RESTORED AND NOW
[1:08:48] WHO KNOWS WHAT ELSE IS GOING TO
[1:08:50] BE ABLE TO COME INTO MY
[1:08:51] DISTRICT THAT I KNOW ARE GOING
[1:08:52] TO APPLY FOR FOR NEXT YEAR'S
[1:08:53] GRANT?
[1:08:54] I WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION
[1:08:56] REGARDING THE POTENTIAL
[1:08:58] CONNECTION OF HISTORIC
[1:08:59] PRESERVATION AND HOW IN HOUSING
[1:09:01] IN GENERAL, HAS THERE EVER BEEN
[1:09:02] PROJECTS WHERE SOMEONE APPLIES
[1:09:04] FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:09:06] OF EXISTING HOUSING THAT COULD
[1:09:07] BE AFFORDABLE?
[1:09:08] JUST TRYING TO SEE AN OVERLAP
[1:09:11] OF BOTH UM OF OF BOTH
[1:09:14] CATEGORIES?
[1:09:15] SURE.
[1:09:16] UM THAT'S A REALLY GOOD
[1:09:17] QUESTION.
[1:09:18] SO UNDER THE STATUTE AND WE
[1:09:20] STATE THIS IN OUR KIND
[1:09:22] OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT
[1:09:23] PROCESS, UM IT STATES THAT WE
[1:09:26] CPA FUNDS IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE
[1:09:28] USED FOR UM TO REHAB HOUSING
[1:09:32] UNLESS IT WAS ORIGINALLY BUILT
[1:09:33] WITH CPA FUNDS.
[1:09:35] SO A LOT OF THE PROJECTS THAT
[1:09:36] ARE IN THE PIPELINE RIGHT NOW
[1:09:38] THAT WE ARE BUILDING 1015 YEARS
[1:09:40] FROM NOW THEY CAN REAPPLY FOR
[1:09:42] CPA FUNDS BECAUSE WE HELPED
[1:09:44] BUILD SOME OF THOSE UNITS
[1:09:45] WITHIN THOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:09:47] .
[1:09:47] BUT WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO
[1:09:48] REALLY USE CPA FUNDS TO REHAB
[1:09:52] UM EXISTING EXISTING EXISTING
[1:09:54] HOUSING.
[1:09:55] UM, SO IT IS WE CAN UM AND IT'S
[1:09:58] ALSO HARD TO SUPPORT UM HOUSING
[1:10:03] REHAB HOUSING IN PARTICULAR
[1:10:05] HISTORIC PRESERVATION BUILDINGS
[1:10:07] BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE AM I
[1:10:09] LEVELS AND UNDER CPA WE SHOULD
[1:10:13] BE SUPPORTING HOUSING UP TO
[1:10:15] 100% AMI AND SOME OF THESE
[1:10:18] HISTORICAL BUILDINGS THAT MAY
[1:10:19] HAVE HOUSING THERE AMI LEVELS
[1:10:21] COULD BE EXTREMELY HIGHER.
[1:10:23] AND SO THEN WE ARE NOW
[1:10:25] SUPPORTING HOUSING THAT IS
[1:10:27] ABOVE 100% AMI AND SO UNDER THE
[1:10:29] LEGAL GUIDANCE THAT WE WERE
[1:10:31] GIVEN WE ARE NOT REALLY TAKING
[1:10:34] THOSE PROJECTS INTO
[1:10:36] CONSIDERATION JUST BECAUSE
[1:10:38] OF HOW NUANCED IT IS AND WE WE
[1:10:40] MIGHT NOT BE FOLLOWING UM, THE
[1:10:43] STATUTE PROPERLY.
[1:10:44] RIGHT.
[1:10:45] SO IF THERE IS A.
[1:10:46] HISTORICAL UM PRESERVATION
[1:10:48] BUILDING AND IT'S AN EMPTY
[1:10:49] BUILDING AND IT WANTS TO BE
[1:10:51] REHABBED YES, CPA FUNDS COULD
[1:10:53] HELP WITH THE EXTERIOR PARTS
[1:10:55] OF THAT OF THAT BUILDING BUT WE
[1:10:57] ALSO UM AND THEN HOUSING COULD
[1:10:59] POTENTIALLY GO IN THERE.
[1:11:00] SO WE JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND
[1:11:03] UM ALL THE CRITERIA AROUND THE
[1:11:05] PROJECT THAT'S COMING BEFORE US
[1:11:07] TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT
[1:11:08] BREAKING ANY OF THE.
[1:11:10] LEGAL REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE
[1:11:12] UNDER THE CPA STATUTE.
[1:11:14] AND THAT'S ONE ONE THING THAT
[1:11:16] WE TRY TO HAVE FOLKS UNDERSTAND
[1:11:18] WE ARE GUIDED BY CHAPTER 44 B
[1:11:21] AND WE ARE GIVEN LEGAL GUIDANCE
[1:11:23] ON HOW TO USE THESE FUNDS.
[1:11:25] SO WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE
[1:11:26] KIND OF FOLLOWING THESE
[1:11:27] GUIDELINES CORRECTLY.
[1:11:28] I APPRECIATE THAT I APPRECIATE
[1:11:30] THAT BREAK DOWN WHICH IS WHY I
[1:11:31] ALWAYS GO TO YOU FOR THE
[1:11:32] GUIDANCE, UM, AND THE QUESTIONS
[1:11:34] THAT I GOT FROM PEOPLE THAT
[1:11:35] WANT TO APPLY UM I DO WANT TO
[1:11:37] ASK YOU IS THE APPLICATION NOW
[1:11:38] OPEN FOR NEXT YEAR'S GRANT?
[1:11:40] UM, SO WE ARE CURRENTLY WAITING
[1:11:44] FOR APPLICATIONS TO COME IN FOR
[1:11:46] FY 27, BUT THE FY 28
[1:11:48] ELIGIBILITY DETERMINATION FORM
[1:11:49] WILL BE RELEASED THE SECOND
[1:11:51] WEEK IN NOVEMBER.
[1:11:52] PERFECT AND I LOOK FORWARD TO
[1:11:53] HELPING YOU SPREAD THE WORD.
[1:11:55] THANK YOU.
[1:11:56] OKAY THAT IS IT FOR ME FOR
[1:11:57] QUESTIONS TO ANY OF MY
[1:11:59] COLLEAGUES OR FOLLOW UP
[1:11:59] QUESTIONS I SEE COUNCIL HAS A
[1:12:01] FEW UM COUNCILOR FLYNN WE HAVE
[1:12:03] OKAY I WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS
[1:12:04] FIVE MINUTES AND THEN FOR THE
[1:12:07] GUYS THAT ARE HERE I AM
[1:12:09] ACTUALLY GOING TO DO PUBLIC
[1:12:10] TESTIMONY IN BETWEEN.
[1:12:12] SO NOW AT THE END I'M GOING TO
[1:12:13] GIVE YOU GUYS A CHANCE TO GIVE
[1:12:15] YOUR PUBLIC TESTIMONY RIGHT
[1:12:16] AFTER THIS PANEL.
[1:12:18] SO COUNCIL ROLL FLOOR IS YOURS
[1:12:20] .
[1:12:20] UH THANK YOU CHAIR AGAIN THANK
[1:12:21] YOU EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR BROWN
[1:12:23] THANK YOU.
[1:12:23] UM, IN 2020 UH, THIS IS BASED
[1:12:27] OFF THE, UM, BOSTON MUNICIPAL
[1:12:30] RESEARCH BUREAU REPORT.
[1:12:31] THE HOUSING PERCENTAGE, UH,
[1:12:34] WENT UP TO 67%.
[1:12:37] BUT CAN YOU TALK TO ME LIKE WHY
[1:12:41] WAS THAT?
[1:12:42] UM, WHY DID WE DECIDE TO GO TO
[1:12:46] 67 AT THAT TIME.
[1:12:48] IN 2020?
[1:12:49] IN 2020, HOW THE PERCENTAGE
[1:12:50] OF CPA EXPENDITURES WAS 67.9%.
[1:12:54] AND THIS IS ACCORDING TO THE UH
[1:12:56] BOS MUNICIPAL RESEARCH BUREAU
[1:12:59] REPORT.
[1:12:59] UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO
[1:13:01] LOOK AT THAT REPORT BEFORE I
[1:13:02] ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
[1:13:03] I WON'T I I DON'T I DON'T KNOW
[1:13:05] IF THAT'S.
[1:13:06] OKAY I WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT
[1:13:09] THAT REPORT TO ANSWER.
[1:13:10] WOULD I BE ABLE TO GET BACK TO
[1:13:11] YOU ON THAT?
[1:13:12] I DON'T RECALL THAT WE GAVE 67%
[1:13:14] IN 2020.
[1:13:15] SO I WOULD JUST NEED TO LOOK AT
[1:13:16] THOSE NUMBERS OKAY.
[1:13:18] AND THEN UM I WOULD LOVE TO
[1:13:20] YOU SAID YOU GAVE MONEY TO THE
[1:13:22] ALP UM ACQUISITION UM FUND IN
[1:13:26] 2019 AND 2020.
[1:13:27] YOU COULD JUST, UH, SUBMIT TO
[1:13:29] US THROUGH THE CHAIR.
[1:13:30] YEAH.
[1:13:30] UM, WHAT WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT
[1:13:32] THAT IS KNOWING THAT I BELIEVE
[1:13:34] IN THE PAST A LOT OF THAT CAME
[1:13:36] FROM ARPA, BUT UP TO NOW BEING
[1:13:38] DRIED UP THEY WILL HAVE TO I'M
[1:13:40] ASSUMING LOOK FOR ADDITIONAL,
[1:13:42] UH, REVENUE IN ORDER TO FULLY
[1:13:44] FUND THAT PROGRAM WHICH WILL
[1:13:45] THEN, UM, I'M ASSUMING TAKE
[1:13:49] AWAY FROM THE MONEY THAT COULD
[1:13:50] THEN BE AWARDED TO DEVELOPERS
[1:13:53] FOR THE CREATION OF AFFORDABLE
[1:13:55] HOUSING.
[1:13:55] SO I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GET
[1:13:57] AN IDEA OF WHAT POOL OF MONEY
[1:13:59] WE WILL NOW BE PLAYING WITH NOW
[1:14:00] THAT AOP WILL BE ASKING FOR
[1:14:04] FUNDS.
[1:14:05] SURE.
[1:14:05] SO I CAN TELL YOU THIS I
[1:14:07] WANT TO SAY IT'S AROUND 4
[1:14:08] MILLION EACH YEAR THAT WE
[1:14:10] FUNDED TO AOP AND THEIR REQUEST
[1:14:12] THIS YEAR IS 5 MILLION.
[1:14:13] ALL RIGHT AND THEN SO 4 MILLION
[1:14:17] EACH YEAR OKAY SO IT'S ABOUT A
[1:14:19] .
[1:14:20] THIRD OR FOURTH OF CURRENTLY
[1:14:22] WHAT WE ALLOCATE TO HOUSING.
[1:14:26] CORRECT OKAY THANKS.
[1:14:32] UM AND THEN I GUESS ONE OF THE
[1:14:35] THOUGHTS I HAD IS THAT YES ALL
[1:14:38] ALL.
[1:14:39] OF THE.
[1:14:39] THREE CATEGORIES ARE
[1:14:40] EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
[1:14:41] UM I GUESS WHAT THIS
[1:14:43] CONVERSATION IS CENTERED AROUND
[1:14:44] IS WHEN WE SEE UM FUNDING FOR
[1:14:48] ONE OF THOSE CATEGORIES BEING
[1:14:50] ATTACKED.
[1:14:51] RIGHT?
[1:14:51] WHETHER IT'S FROM THE FEDERAL
[1:14:53] GOVERNMENT WITH RENTAL
[1:14:54] ASSISTANCE, UM, AND THE ATTACK
[1:14:56] ON PUBLIC HOUSING AND THEN HOW
[1:14:58] DO WE SUPPORT THOSE INDIVIDUALS
[1:14:59] IF THEY WERE TO BE UM, KICKED
[1:15:02] OUT OF PUBLIC HOUSING OR THEIR
[1:15:04] RENTAL ASSISTANCE WAS REMOVED?
[1:15:06] HOW DO WE GO AND SUPPORT THOSE
[1:15:07] INDIVIDUALS?
[1:15:08] UH, WE HAVE TO FIND REVENUE IN
[1:15:10] ORDER TO DO SO.
[1:15:11] UH, WHEN COMMONWEALTH BUILDERS
[1:15:13] IS NOT FULLY FUNDED AT THE
[1:15:14] LEVELS AS IT WAS DONE IN THE
[1:15:16] PAST.
[1:15:16] UH, WHERE DO WE FIND THE
[1:15:18] FUNDING IN ORDER TO HELP?
[1:15:19] UM, UM, THE CREATION OF THAT
[1:15:21] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, ESPECIALLY
[1:15:23] WHEN IT'S DEEPER AFFORDABILITY
[1:15:25] THAT JUST REQUIRES MORE
[1:15:27] SUBSIDIES.
[1:15:27] UM, AND THEN UH, WE SEE THAT,
[1:15:31] YOU KNOW, PUBLIC PARKS, UM,
[1:15:33] THOSE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO
[1:15:35] GET FUNDED FROM THE CAPITAL UH,
[1:15:37] CAPITAL BUDGET.
[1:15:39] UM AND THEN QUESTION SIX
[1:15:40] HOPEFULLY IT PASSES.
[1:15:42] UM, RIGHT.
[1:15:42] THAT'S ANOTHER CONSERVATION
[1:15:43] FUND THAT SHOULD BE STOOD UP
[1:15:45] HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT UM NEXT
[1:15:47] YEAR OR TWO.
[1:15:48] SO WHEN WE SEE THE UM NEGATIVE
[1:15:52] IMPACTS THAT ARE UM HAPPENING
[1:15:54] ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING I MEAN
[1:15:56] ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE
[1:15:57] HOMEOWNERSHIP AND DEEPLY
[1:15:58] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT'S TRYING
[1:16:00] TO SEE IF THERE'S A A MOMENT IN
[1:16:02] TIME WHERE WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE
[1:16:05] TO UH, RESPOND UM TO WHAT'S
[1:16:08] GOING ON AT THE MOMENT.
[1:16:09] NOT SAYING ONE IS MORE
[1:16:11] IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER IT WE
[1:16:13] FIND OURSELVES IN THIS
[1:16:14] SITUATION RIGHT NOW.
[1:16:16] HOW DO WE, YOU KNOW, RESPOND UM
[1:16:19] WITH THE RESOURCES THAT WE DO
[1:16:20] HAVE SO THAT I JUST.
[1:16:22] WANT TO.
[1:16:23] JUST MAKE SURE THAT, YOU
[1:16:24] KNOW, WE KIND.
[1:16:26] OF TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM THAT
[1:16:27] FRAMEWORK AS WELL, UH, KNOWING
[1:16:29] THAT WE DO HAVE ADDITIONAL UH,
[1:16:32] SOURCES OF FUNDS TO HELP THE
[1:16:35] CREATION OF PARKS AND OPEN
[1:16:37] SPACE AND SEEING THAT, YOU
[1:16:39] KNOW, WE CAN, UH, YOU KNOW, BE
[1:16:41] A LITTLE BIT FLEXIBLE IN OUR
[1:16:43] REALLOCATIONS AND AGAIN, THIS
[1:16:45] IS DONE.
[1:16:45] YEAH.
[1:16:46] RIGHT.
[1:16:46] THE THE THIS THE BOARD HAS THE
[1:16:48] ABILITY TO SAY THIS YEAR UH
[1:16:51] NEXT YEAR UH WE GO BACK WE
[1:16:54] MAYBE IT'S A 2 OR 3 YEAR LOOK
[1:16:55] BACK UM TO KIND OF REVISIT UH
[1:16:58] WHAT WE CAN'T STAND UP IN THE
[1:17:00] MEANTIME WHETHER IT'S
[1:17:01] SITUATIONS TO PROVE UM BUT IF
[1:17:04] ONE CATEGORY IS IS SUFFERING AT
[1:17:08] THE TIME I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE
[1:17:11] OR EXPLORE THE FLEXIBILITY ON
[1:17:13] HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE
[1:17:16] CONCERNS UM, AND THOSE ATTACKS
[1:17:17] .
[1:17:18] THAT THAT CATEGORY UM IS GOING
[1:17:20] THROUGH.
[1:17:21] SO JUST A STATEMENT UM NO REAL
[1:17:24] QUESTION.
[1:17:24] BUT AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR
[1:17:26] WORK.
[1:17:27] UM THANK YOU FOR YOUR ADVOCACY
[1:17:28] .
[1:17:28] UH, THANK YOU TO YOUR WHOLE
[1:17:30] TEAM AND THANK YOU TO EVERYONE
[1:17:31] HERE TODAY.
[1:17:31] THANKS.
[1:17:32] THANK YOU.
[1:17:33] AND I WANT TO SAY I YOU KNOW
[1:17:35] I AGREE WITH THAT FRAMEWORK AND
[1:17:36] UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR THAT
[1:17:38] FLEXIBILITY.
[1:17:38] THANK YOU.
[1:17:41] COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[1:17:42] THANK YOU.
[1:17:44] UM THANK YOU.
[1:17:45] THEY DIDN'T UH ONCE AGAIN THEY
[1:17:47] IN THE THE PERCENTAGES THAT ARE
[1:17:50] OUTLINED FOR HOUSING FOR UM
[1:17:53] OPEN SPACE GREEN SPACE AND FOR
[1:17:56] HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[1:17:58] HOW IS THAT HOW WAS ORIGINALLY.
[1:18:00] WAS THAT DETERMINED?
[1:18:01] UM, IT WAS DETERMINED UH WITH
[1:18:03] THE FIRST UH CP CPA COMMITTEE
[1:18:09] UM AND AT THE TIME WHEN WE
[1:18:10] STARTED OUR FIRST FUNDING ROUND
[1:18:12] IN 2018, UM THE NEED OF HOUSING
[1:18:15] WAS BIG AND SO THEY WANTED TO,
[1:18:18] YOU KNOW, BE ABLE TO SUPPORT
[1:18:20] HOUSING AND UNDERSTOOD THAT
[1:18:22] HOUSING WAS A BIG NEED WITHIN
[1:18:24] THE CITY AND THAT ALLOCATION
[1:18:26] AND THAT DISCUSSION AROUND THE
[1:18:27] ALLOCATION WAS UH GIVING 50% TO
[1:18:31] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TO 20%
[1:18:33] TO THE OTHER CATEGORIES AND
[1:18:35] THEN HAVING THAT 10% RESERVE.
[1:18:37] SO IT WAS SINCE THE INCEPTION
[1:18:39] OF THE PROGRAM WHEN IT STARTED
[1:18:40] THAT DISCUSSION AROUND
[1:18:41] ALLOCATING 50% TO HOUSING,
[1:18:44] UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS THE
[1:18:45] BIGGEST NEED.
[1:18:46] THANK YOU IN WHO WHO HAS THE
[1:18:49] ABILITY TO MAKE A CHANGE TO
[1:18:51] THAT PERCENTAGE?
[1:18:53] UM THE COMMITTEE THE NINE
[1:18:54] MEMBER COMMITTEE UM CAN DISCUSS
[1:18:58] UM ADJUSTING THE ALLOCATION UH
[1:19:00] ,AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH
[1:19:01] FUNDING ROUND.
[1:19:03] OKAY.
[1:19:05] BUT UP UNTIL THIS POINT FOR
[1:19:07] THE LAST NINE YEARS THERE
[1:19:09] REALLY HASN'T BEEN ANY ISSUES
[1:19:13] AT ALL IN TERMS OF ANY PROBLEMS
[1:19:15] WITH THE CURRENT PERCENTAGES.
[1:19:18] IS THAT IS THAT FAIR TO SAY?
[1:19:21] I WOULD SAY THAT'S A FAIR
[1:19:21] STATEMENT.
[1:19:24] THE REASON I BROUGHT THAT UP I,
[1:19:27] I DO THINK THE CPA PROGRAM IS
[1:19:29] WORKING WELL AND I'VE FOLLOWED
[1:19:32] IT CLOSELY.
[1:19:34] UM I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE A
[1:19:36] COUPLE OF MY FORMER COUNCILORS
[1:19:38] COUNCILOR FLAHERTY AND
[1:19:40] COUNCILOR ANDREA CAMPBELL THAT
[1:19:41] WERE STRONG SUPPORTERS OF THE
[1:19:43] CPA PROGRAM.
[1:19:44] BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THOUGH IF
[1:19:46] SOMETHING IS WORKING WELL, I
[1:19:49] DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO MAKE
[1:19:50] A CHANGE TO IT AND THE REASON I
[1:19:54] DON'T WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE IS.
[1:19:57] YOU KNOW YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING
[1:19:58] INTO WE'RE GOING INTO A
[1:20:01] CHALLENGING ECONOMY AND THERE'S
[1:20:03] A LOT OF OUTSIDE ISSUES THAT IT
[1:20:06] DO IT THAT DOES IMPACT HOUSING
[1:20:09] AND I WON'T I WON'T LIST THEM
[1:20:11] BUT I DON'T KNOW IF SOMEHOW
[1:20:15] THIS WILL NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE
[1:20:18] CPA AS WE GO FORWARD WHERE
[1:20:22] WE'RE NOT ABLE TO FUND UM PARKS
[1:20:25] AND GREEN SPACE AND OPEN SPACE
[1:20:26] AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:20:28] BECAUSE WE MIGHT BE SUPPORTING
[1:20:30] HOUSING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE
[1:20:32] BUILT.
[1:20:33] UM, I JUST DON'T WANT US TO I
[1:20:35] JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT THE
[1:20:36] RESIDENTS IN A POSITION WHERE.
[1:20:39] MONEY COULD BE TIED UP.
[1:20:41] CITY MONEY COULD BE TIED UP
[1:20:43] BECAUSE HOUSING MIGHT NOT BE
[1:20:45] READY.
[1:20:45] IS THAT IS THAT A CONCERN YOU
[1:20:47] MIGHT ALSO SHARE?
[1:20:48] I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN THAT
[1:20:50] THE COMMITTEE MAY HAVE UM THAT
[1:20:54] UM THE OTHER YOU KNOW,
[1:20:56] ADVOCATES IN THE OTHER TWO
[1:20:57] CATEGORY MAY HAVE CONCERNS
[1:20:59] AROUND WHAT THAT MEANS FOR
[1:21:00] THOSE PROJECTS.
[1:21:02] UM, JUST BECAUSE THE COALITION
[1:21:05] OF ADVOCATES FOR ALL THREE
[1:21:07] CATEGORIES UM WAS A BIG PART
[1:21:09] OF UH CPA BEING PASSED WITH 74%
[1:21:12] OF RESIDENTS VOTING YES.
[1:21:14] UM, SO I THINK YES IT WOULD BE
[1:21:16] A CONCERN.
[1:21:18] AND I UNDERSTAND THE THE
[1:21:22] ADVOCACY THAT HOUSING ACTIVISTS
[1:21:24] WOULD WOULD WANT TO SEE THIS
[1:21:25] CHANGE BECAUSE IT WOULD
[1:21:26] CERTAINLY INCREASE THAT
[1:21:27] PERCENTAGE.
[1:21:28] I RESPECT THAT BUT HAVE WE
[1:21:30] HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITIES
[1:21:33] INVOLVED IN PARKS AND GREEN
[1:21:35] SPACE AND OPEN SPACE AND
[1:21:36] HISTORIC PRESERVATION?
[1:21:37] ARE THEY EXPRESSING THE
[1:21:39] OPPOSITE POINT OF VIEW WHERE
[1:21:40] THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE
[1:21:42] CURRENT PERCENTAGE REMAIN THE
[1:21:44] SAME?
[1:21:45] UM, YES.
[1:21:47] I THINK EVERYONE IN ALL
[1:21:49] CATEGORIES AND ADVOCATE FOR ALL
[1:21:52] CATEGORIES WOULD LIKE TO SEE
[1:21:53] MORE AND WOULD LIKE THINGS TO
[1:21:55] STAY THE SAME.
[1:21:56] UM SO I THINK YOU KNOW FOLKS
[1:21:58] WOULD LIKE DO LIKE THE BALANCED
[1:22:00] APPROACH THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW
[1:22:03] FOR CPA.
[1:22:05] UM AND I THINK AT ANY GIVEN
[1:22:07] TIME DEPENDING ON IF A PROJECT
[1:22:09] IS NOT AWARDED A FUNDING, FOLKS
[1:22:10] DO WANT TO SEE IF THAT OUT
[1:22:12] OF THAT ALLOCATION CAN BE
[1:22:14] ADJUSTED.
[1:22:15] UM, BUT AS YOU STATED, WHAT THE
[1:22:17] COMMITTEE IS DOING RIGHT NOW
[1:22:18] AND HAS DONE IS IT IS A GOOD
[1:22:20] BALANCED APPROACH AND WE HAVE
[1:22:21] FUNDED A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
[1:22:23] OF PROJECTS AND GIVEN AWAY A
[1:22:25] SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF FUNDS AND
[1:22:27] UM WE SEE A QUICK TURNAROUND
[1:22:29] WITH A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS
[1:22:30] BEING DONE.
[1:22:32] AND I HAVE ALSO NOTICED OVER
[1:22:33] THE LAST NINE YEARS BUT THERE
[1:22:36] HAS BEEN SIGNIFICANT FUNDING
[1:22:39] DESIGNATED FOR CPA SPECIFICALLY
[1:22:42] FOR FOR FOR HOUSING WHERE WE
[1:22:46] ACTUALLY WENT OVER THE
[1:22:47] RECOMMENDED INCREASE INCREASE
[1:22:50] PERCENTAGE, UM, FOR VARIOUS
[1:22:52] REASONS AND I AND I CERTAINLY
[1:22:54] SUPPORTED THAT UM, UNDER UNDER
[1:22:56] VERY UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES BUT I
[1:22:58] JUST DON'T NECESSARILY THINK
[1:23:00] IT'S IT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED
[1:23:03] TO CHANGE THE FORMULA AT THIS
[1:23:04] TIME.
[1:23:05] UM THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[1:23:07] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[1:23:09] OKAY.
[1:23:10] UM, WITH THAT DIRECTOR
[1:23:13] BROWN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO
[1:23:14] PROVIDE ANY CLOSING REMARKS FOR
[1:23:15] YOUR PART OF THE PANEL?
[1:23:17] UM, SURE.
[1:23:17] I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY, YOU
[1:23:18] KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THE
[1:23:19] OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO SHARE
[1:23:20] JUST MORE INFORMATION ON WHAT
[1:23:22] WE DO, UM, AND THE CPA OFFICE
[1:23:24] AND THE TOUGH DECISIONS THAT
[1:23:26] THE COMMITTEE HAS TO MAKE EACH
[1:23:27] YEAR.
[1:23:28] UM, WE DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED
[1:23:30] FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE
[1:23:32] DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO HELP IN
[1:23:33] ALL THREE CATEGORIES.
[1:23:35] SO I JUST THANK YOU FOR GIVING
[1:23:36] ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO KIND
[1:23:37] OF SHARE, UM, OUR PROCESS AND
[1:23:40] WHAT THE COMMITTEE IS THINKING.
[1:23:42] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[1:23:43] START TO BROWN FOR ALL THE WORK
[1:23:44] THAT YOU DO AND I LOOK FORWARD
[1:23:45] TO WORKING WITH YOU IN THE NEAR
[1:23:47] FUTURE FOR THIS YEAR'S ROUND.
[1:23:49] SO THANK YOU.
[1:23:50] THANK YOU.
[1:23:51] OKAY.
[1:23:52] UH, NOW I'M.
[1:23:53] GOING TO UM, TRANSITION TO DO
[1:23:56] SOME PUBLIC TESTIMONY AGAIN
[1:23:58] WHEN YOU'RE WHEN.
[1:24:00] YOUR NAME IS CALLED, PLEASE
[1:24:01] COME DOWN TO ONE OF THE TWO
[1:24:02] PODIUMS AND STATE YOUR NAME
[1:24:03] YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD SLASH
[1:24:05] ORGANIZATION.
[1:24:06] PLEASE SPEAK INTO THE
[1:24:07] MICROPHONE AND PLEASE KEEP YOUR
[1:24:08] COMMENTS TO TWO MINUTES.
[1:24:09] UM UM.
[1:24:10] THE FIRST.
[1:24:11] NAMES THAT I SEE HERE ARE JAY
[1:24:14] MARKHAM.
[1:24:15] CATHERINE, JEFFREY.
[1:24:17] REBECCA, MERCY, LIZ, LUKE,
[1:24:19] ADDISON AND ORIAN.
[1:24:22] SO UM.
[1:24:22] JAY THE MIKE IS YOURS.
[1:24:27] GOOD MORNING FOLKS MY NAME IS
[1:24:29] JANEY CULLUM.
[1:24:30] I AM THE, UH, SENIOR COMMUNITY
[1:24:32] ENGAGEMENT MANAGER AT.
[1:24:34] BOSTON HARBOR NOW, UH, THANK
[1:24:35] YOU SO MUCH, CHAIR PEPEN.
[1:24:36] AND TO THE MEMBERS OF THE
[1:24:37] COUNCIL'S COMMITTEE ON THE
[1:24:39] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION ACT.
[1:24:40] UH, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THE.
[1:24:41] OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY IN THIS
[1:24:43] HEARING, UH, EXPLORING
[1:24:45] POTENTIAL CHANGES TO THE CPA
[1:24:47] BOSTON HARBOR NOW FOCUSES ON
[1:24:49] THE WHOLE HARBOR CONNECTING
[1:24:51] COMMUNITIES, THE WATERFRONT AND
[1:24:52] ISLANDS AROUND A SHARED VISION
[1:24:54] SAFER FROM RISING WATERS MORE
[1:24:56] WELCOME TO EVERYONE AND A
[1:24:57] DRIVER OF OUR REGION'S HEALTH,
[1:24:59] ECONOMY AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
[1:25:01] FOR THE LAST TEN PLUS YEARS WE
[1:25:03] HAVE WORKED WITH THE BOSTON
[1:25:04] PARKS AND RECREATION
[1:25:05] DEPARTMENT, THE NATIONAL PARK
[1:25:06] SERVICE AND THE MI DEPARTMENT
[1:25:08] OF CONSERVATION AND RECREATION
[1:25:09] TO IMPROVE RESILIENCE ACROSS
[1:25:11] OUR PARKS AND OPEN SPACES TO
[1:25:12] PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS FOR OUR
[1:25:14] NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE BEEN CUT OFF
[1:25:15] FROM THESE SPACES THROUGH OUR
[1:25:17] WORK, WE HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND
[1:25:19] THAT CPA FUNDING IS A CRITICAL
[1:25:21] TOOL FOR SUPPORTING OPEN SPACES
[1:25:22] AND PARKS AND ADVANCING CLIMATE
[1:25:25] RESILIENCE IN KEY LOCATIONS
[1:25:27] FROM MARSH UPGRADES TO FOOD
[1:25:28] FORESTS AND ACCESSIBLE
[1:25:30] PLAYGROUNDS, CPA FUNDING IS ONE
[1:25:31] OF THE FEW WAYS THAT THE BOSTON
[1:25:33] PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT
[1:25:34] AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS CAN
[1:25:35] MAKE KEY INVESTMENTS IN PUBLIC
[1:25:37] PARKS.
[1:25:38] DECREASING THE FUNDING WOULD BE
[1:25:40] A LARGE SETBACK AS THE CITY
[1:25:41] WORKS TO PROVIDE WORLD CLASS
[1:25:42] PUBLIC PARKS AND RECREATION
[1:25:43] SPACES.
[1:25:44] WHILE THE CITY AND STATE
[1:25:45] CLEARLY NEED MORE PUBLIC
[1:25:46] HOUSING, OUR PARKS SYSTEMS ARE
[1:25:48] ALREADY ALREADY DEEPLY
[1:25:50] UNDERFUNDED.
[1:25:51] DECREASING FUNDING FOR OPEN
[1:25:52] SPACE COULD JEOPARDIZE THE
[1:25:53] HEALTH BENEFITS THAT RESULT
[1:25:55] FROM PROVIDING EXCELLENT
[1:25:56] OUTDOOR SPACES FOR OUR
[1:25:57] RESIDENTS AND GUESTS.
[1:25:59] DIVERTING FUNDING FROM PARKS
[1:26:00] COULD ALSO STYMIE CRITICAL
[1:26:01] ADVANCEMENTS ON RESILIENT
[1:26:02] PROJECTS THAT CAN AFFORD NO
[1:26:03] DELAYS.
[1:26:05] WE'VE SPENT THE LAST SIX YEARS
[1:26:06] DOING IN-DEPTH COMMUNITY
[1:26:07] ENGAGEMENT AROUND MACLEAY PARK
[1:26:09] WITH THE CITY AND DOZENS
[1:26:10] OF COMMUNITY PARTNERS.
[1:26:11] SPEAKING WITH THOUSANDS
[1:26:12] OF FOLKS HAS ONLY CONFIRMED
[1:26:13] WHAT THE RESEARCH ALREADY SHOWS
[1:26:15] THAT PARKS AND OPEN SPACES ARE
[1:26:17] CRITICAL FOR THE MENTAL AND
[1:26:18] PHYSICAL HEALTH OF COMMUNITIES.
[1:26:19] UH BOSTON HARBOR NOW DOES NOT
[1:26:21] SUPPORT DECREASING CPA FUNDING
[1:26:22] AWAY FROM OPEN SPACE AND
[1:26:24] RECREATION TOWARDS AFFORDABLE
[1:26:25] HOUSING.
[1:26:25] UH, THANK YOU FOR THE
[1:26:27] OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY.
[1:26:29] THANK YOU.
[1:26:30] PERFECT TIME.
[1:26:32] UM.
[1:26:34] CATHERINE DAVIS WHEELER.
[1:26:43] GOOD AFTERNOON.
[1:26:44] HELLO, COUNCILORS.
[1:26:45] UM.
[1:26:46] MY NAME IS CATHERINE DAVIS
[1:26:47] WHEELER.
[1:26:48] AND I REPRESENT THE BOSTON
[1:26:49] PRESERVATION ALLIANCE, WHICH IS
[1:26:51] THE CITY'S PRIMARY NONPROFIT
[1:26:53] ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO
[1:26:55] PROTECTING AND PROMOTING
[1:26:56] BOSTON'S HISTORIC BUILDINGS,
[1:26:58] PLACES AND LANDSCAPES.
[1:26:59] UM, TODAY I'M HERE TO EXPRESS
[1:27:01] OUR CONCERN THAT THE CITY
[1:27:03] COUNCIL COMMITTEE ON THE
[1:27:04] COMMUNITY PRESERVATION ACT IS
[1:27:06] CONSIDERING CHANGING THE
[1:27:07] ALLOCATION OF CPA FUNDS TO
[1:27:08] BOSTON ORGANIZATIONS.
[1:27:10] ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT CHANGING
[1:27:12] FUNDING ALLOCATION WITHOUT
[1:27:13] RAISING THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF CPA
[1:27:14] FUNDS INTRODUCES THE REDUCTION
[1:27:16] OF FUNDING FOR HISTORIC
[1:27:17] PRESERVATION AND OUR OPEN SPACE
[1:27:19] AND RECREATION PROJECTS.
[1:27:21] CPA FUNDS ARE THE ONLY SOURCE
[1:27:23] OF PUBLIC FUNDING DIRECTLY
[1:27:24] AVAILABLE TO BOSTONIANS THAT
[1:27:25] SUPPORT BRICK AND MORTAR
[1:27:27] HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[1:27:28] THEY EMPOWER COMMUNITIES TO.
[1:27:30] MAINTAIN AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:27:32] SUCH AS WHEN CPA FUNDS WERE
[1:27:33] USED AT BEACON HOUSE AND BEACON
[1:27:35] HILL UH PRESERVE PLACES
[1:27:37] OF WORSHIP LIKE THE 12TH
[1:27:38] BAPTIST CHURCH IN ROXBURY.
[1:27:40] AS MENTIONED EARLIER, UH
[1:27:41] SUPPORT THE RESTORATION
[1:27:42] OF SCHOOLS INCLUDING BRIA SDA
[1:27:44] ACADEMY IN MATTAPAN.
[1:27:45] THIS IS ONLY A SMALL SELECTION
[1:27:48] OF SUCCESSFUL PRESERVATION
[1:27:49] PROJECTS, ESPECIALLY IN THE
[1:27:50] NEIGHBORHOODS REPRESENTED BY
[1:27:51] MANY IN THIS COMMITTEE.
[1:27:53] DESPITE THE SUCCESSES, THE
[1:27:54] PROGRAM REMAINS HIGHLY
[1:27:55] COMPETITIVE AND APPLICANTS ARE
[1:27:57] OFTEN FORCED TO DELAY OR
[1:27:58] ABANDON MUCH NEEDED WORK IN
[1:28:00] THEIR COMMUNITIES.
[1:28:00] THAT'S SHORT FOR ALL HARMS THE
[1:28:03] PLACES WHERE BOSTONIANS HAVE
[1:28:04] GATHERED, LEARNED, WORSHIPED
[1:28:06] AND RECEIVED CARE FOR
[1:28:07] GENERATIONS DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR
[1:28:09] CPA GRANTS HAVE A LARGER IMPACT
[1:28:11] ON HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:28:12] EFFORTS IN BOSTON THAN ON
[1:28:14] AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION.
[1:28:16] IN 2024, FELLOWS AT THE MAYOR'S
[1:28:18] OFFICE OF NEW URBAN MECHANICS
[1:28:19] ESTIMATED THAT THE COST PER
[1:28:20] SINGLE UNIT OF LARGE PUBLIC
[1:28:22] HOUSING PROJECTS AVERAGED
[1:28:25] $677,000.
[1:28:27] IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE
[1:28:28] PROPOSED GRANT OF WORK AMOUNT
[1:28:30] AWARDED TO HISTORIC
[1:28:31] PRESERVATION PROJECTS IN THE
[1:28:32] FINANCIAL YEAR 26 CPA ROUND WAS
[1:28:36] 354,000.
[1:28:37] SIMPLY PUT, THESE FUNDS ARE
[1:28:39] MORE LIMITED, HARDER TO COME BY
[1:28:41] AND MORE CONSEQUENTIAL TO
[1:28:42] BOSTONIANS HISTORIC
[1:28:43] PRESERVATION EFFORTS.
[1:28:45] I HAVE JUST TWO MORE THINGS
[1:28:48] NATIONALLY THE NATIONAL
[1:28:49] HISTORIC PRESERVATION ACT AND
[1:28:50] SECTION 106 ARE AT RISK.
[1:28:52] THIS IS THREATENED THE LOSS
[1:28:53] OF SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES AND
[1:28:55] CULTURAL LANDSCAPES ACROSS THE
[1:28:56] UNITED STATES.
[1:28:57] IT IS MORE IMPORTANT NOW THAN
[1:28:59] EVER THAT WE USE OUR LOCAL
[1:29:00] POWER TO PROTECT OUR
[1:29:02] IRREPLACEABLE CULTURAL
[1:29:03] RESOURCES AND ASSETS IN BOSTON,
[1:29:05] PRESERVATION SUPPORTS CITYWIDE
[1:29:07] SUSTAINABILITY AND HOUSING
[1:29:08] GOALS AS WELL AS MAKING
[1:29:09] COMMUNITIES MORE STABLE,
[1:29:11] INCLUSIVE, THOUGHTFUL PLACES IS
[1:29:13] WHAT MAKES BOSTON BETTER FOR
[1:29:15] ALL OF US.
[1:29:16] THE ALLIANCE RESPECTFULLY
[1:29:17] REQUEST THAT THE COMMITTEE
[1:29:18] TABLE ANY CONVERSATION
[1:29:20] DISCUSSING REDUCTION IN CPA
[1:29:21] FUNDING FOR HISTORIC
[1:29:22] PRESERVATION PROJECTS.
[1:29:23] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[1:29:25] THANK YOU.
[1:29:28] NEXT, JEFFREY.
[1:29:31] HI THERE JEFFREY GANO FROM
[1:29:39] DORCHESTER.
[1:29:39] APOLOGIES IN ADVANCE.
[1:29:41] MY STATEMENT IS GOING TO RUN A
[1:29:42] LITTLE BIT LONG.
[1:29:42] I'VE BEEN CUTTING OUT UH
[1:29:44] SENTENCES HERE AND THERE SINCE
[1:29:45] I LIKE THE TWO MINUTE UM LIMIT
[1:29:47] .
[1:29:48] SO I'M A FAST READER.
[1:29:49] SO UH MY NAME IS JEFFREY GANO.
[1:29:51] I'VE LIVED IN DORCHESTER FOR 29
[1:29:52] YEARS PRIMARILY IN THE ASHMONT
[1:29:53] PEABODY SQUARE AREA AND HAVE
[1:29:55] BEEN ACTIVE IN COMMUNITY
[1:29:57] ORGANIZATIONS AND INITIATIVES
[1:29:57] FOR NEARLY THREE DECADES.
[1:29:59] I WAS A FOUNDING BOARD MEMBER
[1:30:00] OF THE GREATER ASHMONT MAIN
[1:30:01] STREET SERVING FOR 20 YEARS AND
[1:30:03] I CURRENTLY SERVE AS A BOARD
[1:30:04] MEMBER AND THE VICE PRESIDENT
[1:30:05] OF THE DORCHESTER HISTORICAL
[1:30:06] SOCIETY.
[1:30:07] 23 YEARS AGO I MOBILIZED
[1:30:08] COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR THE
[1:30:10] RESTORATION OF THE HISTORIC
[1:30:10] PEABODY STREET A BOSTON
[1:30:12] LANDMARK.
[1:30:13] I HAVE HAND-WOUND THAT CLOCK
[1:30:15] EVERY DAY OR EVERY WEEK.
[1:30:17] EVER SINCE AND SINCE 2018 I'VE
[1:30:20] SERVED AS A COMMISSIONER ON THE
[1:30:21] BOSTON LANDMARKS COMMISSION.
[1:30:22] PROFESSIONALLY, I'VE BEEN A
[1:30:23] HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:30:24] CONSULTANT SINCE 2013 FOCUSING
[1:30:26] ON PRESERVATION PLANNING,
[1:30:27] COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT,
[1:30:28] FUNDRAISING AND PROJECT
[1:30:29] MANAGEMENT FOR NONPROFIT
[1:30:30] ORGANIZATIONS, RELIGIOUS
[1:30:32] CONGREGATIONS AND
[1:30:32] MUNICIPALITIES.
[1:30:34] IN 2015 I JOINED PRESERVATION
[1:30:36] MASSACHUSETTS, THE STATEWIDE
[1:30:37] PRESERVATION ADVOCACY
[1:30:38] ORGANIZATION, AS ITS EASTERN
[1:30:40] MASSACHUSETTS FIELD SERVICES
[1:30:42] REPRESENTATIVE.
[1:30:42] TODAY I SPEAK IN A PERSONAL
[1:30:45] CAPACITY DRAWING ON MY
[1:30:46] FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH THE
[1:30:47] BENEFITS OF BOSTON'S COMMUNITY
[1:30:49] PRESERVATION ACT HISTORIC
[1:30:50] PRESERVATION GRANTS SINCE THE
[1:30:51] FIRST GRANTS WERE AWARDED IN
[1:30:53] 2018.
[1:30:53] SINCE THEN I HAVE WORKED WITH
[1:30:55] TEN COMMUNITY BASED
[1:30:57] ORGANIZATIONS TO SECURE
[1:30:58] ADMINISTER 22 CPA HISTORIC
[1:31:00] PRESERVATION GRANTS BENEFITING
[1:31:02] SIX BOSTON NEIGHBORHOODS THE
[1:31:03] BACK BAY BRIGHTON CENTRAL
[1:31:05] BUSINESS DISTRICT, DORCHESTER,
[1:31:06] FENWAY AND ROXBURY.
[1:31:08] BASED ON THAT EXPERIENCE, I
[1:31:09] WOULD LIKE TO MAKE FIVE VERY
[1:31:10] BRIEF POINTS ABOUT THE
[1:31:12] SIGNIFICANT VALUE THESE GRANTS
[1:31:14] PROVIDE TO BOSTON, ITS
[1:31:15] RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY
[1:31:17] ORGANIZATIONS THAT DEPEND ON
[1:31:18] SAFE, WELL-MAINTAINED SPACES TO
[1:31:20] DELIVER ESSENTIAL SERVICES.
[1:31:21] POINT NUMBER ONE CPR HISTORIC
[1:31:23] PRESERVATION GRANTS HAVE BEEN A
[1:31:25] GAME CHANGER FOR HISTORIC
[1:31:26] PRESERVATION.
[1:31:27] BEFORE BOSTON ADOPTED THE CPA
[1:31:29] IN 2017, ONLY A HANDFUL
[1:31:30] OF CITY, REGIONAL AND STATEWIDE
[1:31:31] FUNDERS PROVIDED MEANINGFUL
[1:31:33] SUPPORT FOR QUALITY HISTORIC
[1:31:34] PRESERVATION WORK.
[1:31:37] ORGANIZATIONS RESPONSIBLE FOR
[1:31:38] LARGE, COMPLEX LEGACY BUILDINGS
[1:31:39] OFTEN HAD NO CHOICE BUT TO
[1:31:41] DEFER COSTLY MAINTENANCE
[1:31:43] RESULTING IN DECADES, SOMETIMES
[1:31:44] GENERATIONS OF UNDERINVESTMENT
[1:31:46] .
[1:31:46] THE NEED FOR HISTORIC
[1:31:47] PRESERVATION FUNDING HAS LONG
[1:31:49] BEEN SUBSTANTIAL AND UNDER MIT
[1:31:50] AND CPA HAS FINALLY PROVIDED A
[1:31:53] SOURCE OF FUNDING TO HELP
[1:31:54] ADDRESS THAT NEED EVEN IF THE
[1:31:55] WORK TAKES SEVERAL GRANT ROUNDS
[1:31:56] TO COMPLETE.
[1:31:58] REDUCING THE CURRENT POOL
[1:31:59] OF CPA HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:32:00] FUNDING WOULD REPRESENT A MAJOR
[1:32:01] SETBACK TO ADDRESSING THIS NEED
[1:32:03] .
[1:32:03] MY SECOND POINT HISTORIC
[1:32:05] PRESERVATION GRANTS ARE DRIVEN
[1:32:06] DIRECTLY BY COMMUNITIES AFTER
[1:32:08] ATTENDING DOZENS OF CPA
[1:32:09] HEARINGS OVER THE PAST NINE
[1:32:11] YEARS, I HAVE OBSERVED A CLEAR
[1:32:12] DISTINCTION AMONG PROJECTS
[1:32:13] FUNDED IN THE PROGRAM'S THREE
[1:32:15] FUNDING CATEGORIES
[1:32:16] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OPEN
[1:32:17] SPACE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:32:18] .
[1:32:18] THE PIPELINE OF AFFORDABLE
[1:32:20] HOUSING AND OPEN SPACE PROJECTS
[1:32:21] FREQUENTLY INVOLVES OR IS
[1:32:22] DRIVEN BY CITY DEPARTMENTS,
[1:32:24] AGENCIES AND STAFF DIRECTLY.
[1:32:26] THE SLATE OF HISTORIC
[1:32:27] PRESERVATION PROJECTS THAT ARE
[1:32:28] REPRESENTED FOR CONSIDERATION
[1:32:29] IN ANY GIVEN ROUND, BY CONTRAST
[1:32:31] ,ARE DISTINCTLY MORE
[1:32:32] INDEPENDENTLY DRIVEN OR
[1:32:33] GRASSROOTS, REFLECTING THE REAL
[1:32:35] TIME PRIORITIES OF THE
[1:32:36] COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT
[1:32:37] APPLY AS CITY COUNCILORS.
[1:32:39] I HOPE YOU WOULD SEE THAT THIS
[1:32:40] HIGH LEVEL OF DIRECT
[1:32:41] CONSTITUENT PARTICIPATION IS A
[1:32:43] STRENGTH OF THE PROGRAM,
[1:32:45] ESPECIALLY IN DORCHESTER AND
[1:32:46] ROXBURY HISTORICALLY
[1:32:47] UNDERSERVED NEIGHBORHOODS THAT
[1:32:48] HAVE BENEFITED SUBSTANTIALLY
[1:32:50] FROM HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:32:51] GRANTS FOR COMMUNITY BASED
[1:32:52] PROJECTS.
[1:32:54] MY THIRD POINT FOR MANY
[1:32:55] HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECTS
[1:32:56] ,CPA FUNDING MAKES THE
[1:32:58] DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PROJECT
[1:32:59] HAPPENING AND NOT HAPPENING.
[1:33:00] ANYONE WHO HAS EXAMINED A
[1:33:02] TYPICAL AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:33:03] PROJECTS PROFORMA KNOWS HOW
[1:33:04] MANY FUNDING SOURCES OF VARIOUS
[1:33:05] TYPES FROM FEDERAL, STATE, CITY
[1:33:07] AND PRIVATE ENTITIES MAY BE
[1:33:08] NEEDED TO MAKE IT WORK.
[1:33:10] 1012 1520 OR EVEN MORE SOURCES
[1:33:12] IN MY EXPERIENCE, A TYPICAL CPA
[1:33:14] HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT
[1:33:15] HAS ONE PRIMARY FUNDING SOURCE
[1:33:18] ITS CPA GRANT AND ORGANIZATION
[1:33:20] MAY CONTRIBUTE INTERNAL
[1:33:21] BUILDING FUNDS IF IT HAS THEM
[1:33:23] OR SECURES SMALLER GRANTS FROM
[1:33:24] OTHER PUBLIC OR PRIVATE
[1:33:25] SOURCES, BUT THOSE OTHER GRANTS
[1:33:26] ARE TYPICALLY ONLY WORTH TENS
[1:33:28] OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AS
[1:33:29] COMPARED TO A CPA GRANT
[1:33:31] OF $500,000 OR MORE WITH CPA
[1:33:33] FUNDING AND WITHOUT CPA FUNDING
[1:33:35] AND WITH SO FEW OTHER
[1:33:36] ALTERNATIVES, MANY OF THESE
[1:33:37] PRESERVATION PROJECTS SIMPLY
[1:33:39] CANNOT PROCEED THEY WILL DIE
[1:33:40] REDUCING THE POOL OF HISTORIC
[1:33:42] PRESERVATION FUNDING BY 60%
[1:33:44] DOWN FROM THE CURRENT 25% TO
[1:33:46] THE MINIMUM PROGRAM REQUIREMENT
[1:33:47] OF 10% WILL LIKELY KILL 60%
[1:33:50] OF ALL ELIGIBLE CPA HISTORIC
[1:33:52] PRESERVATION PROJECTS,
[1:33:53] DECREASING THE PORTFOLIO FROM
[1:33:54] ABOUT 25 PROJECTS PER YEAR DOWN
[1:33:56] TO TEN.
[1:33:58] MY FOURTH POINT HISTORIC
[1:33:59] PRESERVATION GRANTS CAN.
[1:34:01] YOU PLEASE UM GO TO THE END?
[1:34:03] YES, I WILL GO TO THE END SO
[1:34:04] QUICKLY.
[1:34:05] UM, HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[1:34:07] GRANTS PROTECT ESSENTIAL
[1:34:08] COMMUNITY SERVICE NOT JUST
[1:34:09] BEAUTIFUL BUILDINGS.
[1:34:10] I THINK THERE'S A MISCONCEPTION
[1:34:11] THAT THIS IS ABOUT BEAUTIFUL
[1:34:12] SLATE ROOFS AND FANCY COPPER
[1:34:13] WORK AND UH, ESTHETICS WHEN IN
[1:34:16] FACT MANY OF THESE OF THE
[1:34:18] ORGANIZATIONS THAT OWN AND OUR
[1:34:20] HOUSING THESE HISTORIC
[1:34:20] STRUCTURES PROVIDE INNUMERABLE
[1:34:22] COMMUNITY SERVICES OFTEN FOR
[1:34:24] FREE OR REDUCED PRICING IF AT
[1:34:26] ANY COST AT ALL.
[1:34:27] SO WHAT WOULD THE CITY NEED TO
[1:34:29] DO TO REPLACE ALL THE SERVICES
[1:34:30] THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THESE
[1:34:32] HISTORIC BUILDINGS?
[1:34:33] I THINK CPA REPRESENTS A GREAT
[1:34:34] INVESTMENT IN UM, HELPING THESE
[1:34:37] ORGANIZATIONS PROVIDE THOSE
[1:34:38] SERVICES AND THEN FINALLY UM
[1:34:41] CPA GRANTS HELP STRENGTHEN THE
[1:34:43] ORGANIZATIONS THAT RECEIVE THEM
[1:34:45] UM, FEEDING INTER STAFF TO
[1:34:46] AMAZING WORK ABOUT CAPACITY
[1:34:48] BUILDING AMONG ORGANIZATIONS.
[1:34:50] UM FOR MANY OF THE
[1:34:51] ORGANIZATIONS THAT I WORK WITH
[1:34:52] ,THEY'RE VOLUNTEER DRIVEN
[1:34:53] FACED WITH BUILDINGS THAT UH
[1:34:55] HAVE 5 OR 10 OR $20 MILLION
[1:34:57] WORTH OF DEFERRED MAINTENANCE
[1:34:57] ON THEM.
[1:34:58] UM, THE BEAUTY OF CPA IS THAT,
[1:35:00] UH, THROUGH THE REPORTING AND
[1:35:02] APPLICATION PROCESS, SF GIVES
[1:35:04] HANDS ON TRAINING ESSENTIALLY
[1:35:05] UM THE BUILD THE CAPACITY
[1:35:06] OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS NOT ONLY
[1:35:08] HELPS THEM DEAL WITH THEIR
[1:35:09] BUILDINGS BUT ALSO HELPS THEM
[1:35:10] DO WHAT THEY DO TO SERVE THEIR
[1:35:12] COMMUNITIES EVEN BETTER.
[1:35:13] SO FINALLY MY MAIN POINT IS
[1:35:15] RATHER THAN SLICING AND DICING
[1:35:18] THE PIE OF CPA FUNDS, WHY DON'T
[1:35:20] WE MAKE THE PIE BIGGER?
[1:35:22] UM, STATUTORILY WE CAN UH,
[1:35:24] ADOPT A SURCHARGE OF UP TO 3%
[1:35:26] WHICH WOULD TREBLE THE AMOUNT
[1:35:27] OF MONEY UH, MADE POSSIBLE FOR
[1:35:30] ALL OF THE THREE ACTIVITIES.
[1:35:32] SO AS CITY COUNCILORS, I HOPE
[1:35:35] THAT YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT THAT
[1:35:37] QUESTION RATHER THAN, UM,
[1:35:38] SWITCHING FUNDS FROM ONE
[1:35:40] CATEGORY TO ANOTHER.
[1:35:41] THINK ABOUT MAKING THE PIE
[1:35:43] BIGGER TO BENEFIT OUR AUDIENCE
[1:35:44] .
[1:35:44] SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
[1:35:45] THANK YOU.
[1:35:47] OKAY.
[1:35:48] UM, NEXT WE HAVE REBECCA.
[1:35:51] THEN WE.
[1:35:52] HAVE MERCY.
[1:35:55] THANK YOU.
[1:35:55] PLEASE, UM, TO TRY TO KEEP IT A
[1:35:57] TWO MINUTES JUST THERE'S A LOT
[1:35:59] OF PUBLIC TESTIMONY.
[1:35:59] ABSOLUTELY.
[1:36:00] THANK YOU.
[1:36:01] MY NAME IS REBECCA KEMPER
[1:36:02] REPRESENTING HISTORIC.
[1:36:03] BOSTON INCORPORATED.
[1:36:04] LOCATED HERE IN THE DOWNTOWN.
[1:36:06] CROSSING AND THEIR ART.
[1:36:09] WHEN IT COMES TO HISTORIC.
[1:36:10] PRESERVATION.
[1:36:11] UH, IT PROTECTS AFFORDABLE
[1:36:13] HOUSING.
[1:36:14] UH, NATURALLY.
[1:36:15] SO WHAT WE CALL NATURALLY
[1:36:16] AFFORDABLE HOUSING OR NOAA'S IN
[1:36:18] RESEARCH IT DOES THIS BY TWO
[1:36:20] WAYS ONE THROUGH DIRECT UM
[1:36:22] ADAPTIVE UH OR CONVERSION.
[1:36:26] AND IT ALSO DOES THIS BY
[1:36:27] PROTECTING THE HISTORIC FABRIC
[1:36:29] AROUND UH BUILDINGS OF WHICH
[1:36:31] PEOPLE ARE RESIDING THAT IS
[1:36:33] AFFORDABLE IS THERE'S TWO
[1:36:34] PATHWAYS TO THIS.
[1:36:35] IT'S INCREDIBLY MEANINGFUL WHEN
[1:36:37] WE THINK ABOUT BOSTON'S
[1:36:39] HISTORIC FABRIC, WELL OVER 50%
[1:36:43] IS CONSIDERED HISTORIC.
[1:36:44] THESE ARE BUILDINGS THAT NEED
[1:36:45] ONGOING MAINTENANCE.
[1:36:46] THEY NEED ONGOING CARE.
[1:36:48] SOMETIMES THOSE THAT ARE
[1:36:50] RESPONSIBLE FOR BEING STEWARDS
[1:36:51] OF THESE BUILDINGS DO NOT HAVE
[1:36:53] THE MEANS TO DO SO, BUT THEY
[1:36:54] WANT TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT.
[1:36:56] CPA FUNDS ALLOWS FOR THAT
[1:36:58] FLEXIBILITY.
[1:36:59] UM I.
[1:37:00] THINK.
[1:37:00] THE OTHER ASPECT OF THIS TO
[1:37:02] KEEP IN MIND IS WE ARE A PIECE
[1:37:05] IN AFFORDABILITY FOR BOSTON AND
[1:37:06] WE ARE ALSO WHEN IT COMES TO
[1:37:08] PRESERVATION WE'RE UNDER
[1:37:10] THREAT, UH, FROM A FEDERAL
[1:37:12] PERSPECTIVE, UH, THE NUMBER TWO
[1:37:14] PAIRED UH FEDERAL FUNDING WITH
[1:37:17] UH LOW INCOME TAX CREDIT
[1:37:18] HISTORIC UH LOW INCOME TAX
[1:37:20] CREDITS OR UM LIGHT TECH WAS
[1:37:23] HISTORIC TAX CREDITS.
[1:37:24] THE NUMBER ONE WAS NEW MARKETS.
[1:37:26] THIS HAS CHANGED HISTORIC TAX
[1:37:28] CREDITS ARE NOW HAVE TO BE
[1:37:30] TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF AFTER FIVE
[1:37:31] YEARS AND NOT ONE.
[1:37:32] THIS MAKES IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR
[1:37:35] DEVELOPERS TO DO PROJECTS THAT
[1:37:37] ARE CITING AFFORDABILITY AND
[1:37:40] COMMUNITIES THAT NEED IT THE
[1:37:41] MOST AND OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS
[1:37:42] .
[1:37:43] SO WE TOO ARE FACING VERY
[1:37:45] SIMILAR CHALLENGES AND CPA
[1:37:46] FUNDS ALLOWS FOR LOCAL FUNDING
[1:37:49] TO PROTECT THOSE SPACES.
[1:37:50] I THINK WE'RE ALMOST OUT
[1:37:51] OF TIME SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[1:37:52] THANK YOU MERCY.
[1:37:58] GOOD AFTERNOON.
[1:38:00] UH MY NAME IS MARTY ROBINSON
[1:38:01] AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[1:38:03] OF SABASTIAN AND ACTION.
[1:38:04] I WANT TO BEGIN BY SAYING THAT
[1:38:06] I STRONGLY SUPPORT AFFORDABLE
[1:38:07] HOUSING.
[1:38:08] HOWEVER, I OPPOSE CHANGING THE
[1:38:10] CURRENT COMMUNITY PRESERVATION
[1:38:11] ACT FUNDING ALLOCATION TO
[1:38:12] INCREASE THE PERCENTAGE
[1:38:14] DEDICATED TO HOUSING AT THE
[1:38:15] EXPENSE OF OTHER ESSENTIAL
[1:38:16] COMMUNITY.
[1:38:17] INVESTMENTS IN SOUTH BOSTON.
[1:38:19] WE WORK CLOSELY WITH RESIDENTS
[1:38:20] OF MARY ELLEN MCCORMICK, OLD
[1:38:22] COLONY AND WEST BROADWAY.
[1:38:23] THESE FAMILIES NEED STABLE
[1:38:25] AFFORDABLE HOUSING ESPECIALLY
[1:38:26] OUR YOUNGER GENERATIONS
[1:38:27] PREPARING TO LEAVE HOME COLLEGE
[1:38:28] STUDENTS WONDERING WHETHER.
[1:38:30] THEY'LL BE ABLE TO AFFORD A.
[1:38:31] PLACE OF THEIR OWN AFTER
[1:38:32] GRADUATION AND YOUNG FAMILIES
[1:38:33] WHO ARE UNDER HOUSE AND NEED
[1:38:35] MORE SPACE.
[1:38:37] MANY OF THESE FAMILIES.
[1:38:38] LIVE DOUBLED UP WITH.
[1:38:39] PARENTS OR RELATIVES NOT
[1:38:40] NECESSARILY BY CHOICE.
[1:38:41] BUT BECAUSE AFFORDABLE.
[1:38:43] HOUSING IS SCARCE.
[1:38:44] WITH LOW WAGE JOBS AND RISING
[1:38:46] COSTS OF LIVING, EVEN FULL TIME
[1:38:47] WORKERS LIVING PAYCHECK TO
[1:38:49] PAYCHECK FIND MOVING INTO THE
[1:38:50] INTO A HOME OF THEIR OWN NEARLY
[1:38:52] IMPOSSIBLE.
[1:38:54] BUT HOUSING IS ONLY PART OF THE
[1:38:56] EQUATION.
[1:38:56] OUR RESIDENTS ALSO NEED SAFE
[1:38:59] PARKS, RECREATIONAL SPACES,
[1:39:01] COMMUNITY GARDENS AND PLACES
[1:39:02] WHERE FAMILIES CAN GATHER
[1:39:03] WHETHER IT'S ATTENDING A
[1:39:04] COMMUNITY EVENT, TAKING A WALK
[1:39:06] OR EVEN JUST TAPPING OUTSIDE
[1:39:07] FOR FOR A LITTLE BIT OF FRESH
[1:39:09] AIR.
[1:39:10] AFFORDABLE HOUSING DOES NOT
[1:39:12] EXIST IN ISOLATION.
[1:39:13] THE QUALITY OF LIFE SURROUNDING
[1:39:14] THAT HOUSING MATTERS JUST AS
[1:39:16] MUCH THROUGH OUR WORK AS US
[1:39:18] BOSTON ACTION WE HAVE SEEN
[1:39:20] FIRSTHAND HOW INVESTMENTS IN
[1:39:21] PARKS, OPEN SPACES, RECREATION
[1:39:23] AND RECREATION SUPPORT YOUTH
[1:39:25] DEVELOPMENT, MENTAL HEALTH,
[1:39:26] COMMUNITY WELLNESS AND
[1:39:27] NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY.
[1:39:30] I'M SORRY.
[1:39:33] OUR COMMUNITY SHOULD NOT HAVE
[1:39:35] TO CHOOSE BETWEEN AFFORDABLE
[1:39:35] HOMES AND HEALTHY, SAFE,
[1:39:37] RESILIENT NEIGHBORHOODS.
[1:39:38] THEY DESERVE BOTH.
[1:39:40] I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE
[1:39:41] COMMITTEE TO MAINTAIN THE
[1:39:42] CURRENT CPI ALLOCATION WHILE
[1:39:43] EXPLORING BROADER HOUSING
[1:39:44] SOLUTIONS THAT ALLOW RESIDENTS
[1:39:46] ESPECIALLY OUR YOUNGER
[1:39:47] GENERATION WORKING FAMILIES TO
[1:39:48] REMAIN IN THE COMMUNITIES THEY
[1:39:50] CALL HOME.
[1:39:50] THANK YOU.
[1:39:57] UM LET'S LOOK.
[1:40:08] HI MY NAME IS LIZ LUKE CLEWS.
[1:40:10] I'M THE DIRECTOR OF ENGAGEMENT
[1:40:12] CONSTRUCTION AT THE BOSTON FOOD
[1:40:14] FOREST COALITION.
[1:40:15] I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF
[1:40:17] OF HUNDREDS OF NEIGHBORS ACROSS
[1:40:18] THE CITY.
[1:40:19] UH, WE'RE A SMALL NONPROFIT THE
[1:40:22] COALITION OF 15 PARKS.
[1:40:24] UM, AND WE WORK WITH COMMUNITY
[1:40:26] GROUPS AND ASSOCIATIONS IN
[1:40:28] MATTAPAN, DORCHESTER, JP,
[1:40:31] ROSLINDALE, ROXBURY, ALLSTON,
[1:40:32] EAST BOSTON AND MANY MORE.
[1:40:34] UM, IN MY WORK I SEE CPA UH
[1:40:39] OPEN SPACE DOLLARS UM FIRSTHAND
[1:40:42] ON THE GROUND I AND MY TEAM WE
[1:40:44] SIT WITH NEIGHBORS AROUND
[1:40:46] VACANT LOTS AND DESIGN PARKS
[1:40:49] TOGETHER.
[1:40:49] UM, NEIGHBORS DECIDE WHAT TO
[1:40:51] PLANT, WHERE THEY WILL GATHER,
[1:40:52] HOW KIDS WILL PLAY THERE AND
[1:40:54] WHAT FOOD THEY WILL HARVEST.
[1:40:55] AND TOGETHER OUR TEAM WE BUILD
[1:40:58] ,UM, THESE FOOD FOREST PARKS,
[1:41:01] UH, FOR NEIGHBORS AND WE BUILD
[1:41:03] THEM TOGETHER.
[1:41:04] AND SO WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT UH
[1:41:06] ,OPEN SPACE FOR FOOD FORESTS
[1:41:08] AND FOR UM, PARKS AND
[1:41:10] RECREATION AS WELL.
[1:41:11] THAT'S HOW NORA RADCLIFFE CAME
[1:41:14] TO LIFE IN DISTRICT FOUR SEVEN
[1:41:17] HILL AND HOPE GARDEN ALSO IN
[1:41:19] DISTRICT SEVEN EDGEWATER AND
[1:41:21] FAIRY HOLLOW AND DISTRICT FIVE
[1:41:23] EACH ONE STARTED AS A VACANT
[1:41:24] AND NEGLECTED LOT UH EACH ONE
[1:41:28] MANAGES STORMWATER, COOLS THE
[1:41:30] BLOCK, GROWS FOOD FOR NEIGHBORS
[1:41:32] TO HARVEST AND THEY ARE RUN AT
[1:41:34] LOW PUBLIC COST AND NEIGHBORS
[1:41:37] THEMSELVES CARE FOR THESE PARKS
[1:41:39] AND WE SUPPORT THEM.
[1:41:41] MANY ARE POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE
[1:41:45] PAIRED CPA DOLLARS WITH LAND
[1:41:47] FROM MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING
[1:41:50] ,A PARTNER WHOSE HOUSING
[1:41:52] MISSION WE FULLY SUPPORT.
[1:41:54] THANK YOU COUNCILOR WORRELL
[1:41:57] COUNCILOR CULPEPER FOR TAKING
[1:41:58] ON THE HARD QUESTION HOW BOSTON
[1:42:01] REPLACES EXPIRING ARPA DOLLARS.
[1:42:03] WE SUPPORT FUNDING AFFORDABLE
[1:42:05] HOUSING AND WE BELIEVE BOSTON
[1:42:06] CAN DO CAN DO IT WITHOUT
[1:42:09] CUTTING OPEN SPACE ON A CPA
[1:42:11] POOL OF 47 MILLION.
[1:42:13] DROPPING OPEN SPACE FROM 20 TO
[1:42:16] 10 MOVES ROUGHLY 4.7 MILLION A
[1:42:19] YEAR.
[1:42:19] THAT'S A FRACTION OF THE 240
[1:42:22] MILLION ARPA GAP.
[1:42:23] UM, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING IS TO
[1:42:25] MOVE THE 10% FLEXIBLE SHARE TO
[1:42:29] HOUSING AND RAISING IT FROM 50
[1:42:32] TO 60 AND KEEP OPEN SPACE AT
[1:42:35] 20%.
[1:42:35] UM, I THINK WE HEARD EARLIER IF
[1:42:37] IT'S WORKING, LET'S CONTINUE ON
[1:42:39] IN THE SAME WAY NEIGHBORS WANT
[1:42:41] HOMES THEY CAN AFFORD AND THEY
[1:42:43] WANT GREEN SPACES THAT ARE
[1:42:45] WORTH LIVING NEXT TO AND THAT
[1:42:47] THEY CARE FOR.
[1:42:47] WITH THIS APPROACH BOSTON CAN
[1:42:50] HAVE BOTH AND I THANK YOU FOR
[1:42:52] YOUR TIME.
[1:42:53] THANK YOU.
[1:42:55] UM, ADDISON.
[1:43:09] UM, NO.
[1:43:09] OKAY.
[1:43:10] UM, RYAN.
[1:43:20] HELLO.
[1:43:21] MY NAME IS RYAN KRIEGMAN.
[1:43:22] UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
[1:43:23] OF THE BOSTON FOOD FOREST
[1:43:25] COALITION.
[1:43:25] AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEPEN
[1:43:27] AND COUNCILOR WORRELL FOR THE
[1:43:29] OPPORTUNITY TO TESTIFY TODAY.
[1:43:31] UM, QUICK STORY IS WHEN WE
[1:43:34] STARTED THE FOOD FOREST
[1:43:35] COALITION IT WAS GRASSROOTS
[1:43:37] NEIGHBORS LITERALLY, UH,
[1:43:39] BRINGING PLANTS FROM THEIR OWN
[1:43:40] YARD AS DUMPSTER DIVING
[1:43:42] CARDBOARD TO REPAIR THE SOIL.
[1:43:44] WE STARTED AND I STARTED IN
[1:43:45] EGGLESTON SQUARE.
[1:43:46] I MET HUNDREDS OF OTHER
[1:43:47] NEIGHBORS IN OTHER PARTS
[1:43:48] OF BOSTON DOING THIS WORK, AND
[1:43:50] WE REALIZED VERY QUICKLY THAT,
[1:43:52] UH, WE NEEDED TO INCORPORATE A
[1:43:54] NONPROFIT COMMUNITY LAND TRUST
[1:43:55] IN ORDER TO OWN THE LAND AND
[1:43:56] PROTECT THE GOOD WORK WE WERE
[1:43:58] DOING.
[1:43:58] AND IT WASN'T UNTIL, UH, YOU
[1:44:00] KNOW, NINE YEARS AGO CPA SHOWED
[1:44:01] UP WITH SOME REAL RESOURCES
[1:44:03] THAT ALLOWED US TO MOVE INTO
[1:44:04] REALLY BUILDING STATE OF THE
[1:44:05] ART PARKS THAT WE REALLY
[1:44:06] DESERVE WITH, YOU KNOW, SOLAR
[1:44:08] PANELS THAT ALLOW FOR RAINWATER
[1:44:11] CAPTURE AND PUMPING IRRIGATION
[1:44:12] THROUGH THE PARKS ALL ALL THE
[1:44:14] HARDSCAPE AND EVERYTHING THAT
[1:44:15] MAKES THESE SPACES COME ALIVE.
[1:44:16] AND SO THAT FUNDING HAS REALLY
[1:44:19] EMPOWERED US AS COMMUNITY
[1:44:20] MEMBERS, AS NEIGHBORS TO TAKE
[1:44:22] CARE OF THESE SPACES AND TO
[1:44:24] SHAPE THE DESTINY
[1:44:24] OF DEVELOPMENT IN OUR
[1:44:26] COMMUNITIES.
[1:44:26] YOU KNOW, THIS WORK STARTED
[1:44:27] WITH LOCAL LEADERS REALLY
[1:44:29] TRYING TO BALANCE THE NEEDS
[1:44:31] OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND
[1:44:33] UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS AN
[1:44:34] AFFORDABILITY CRISIS IN BOSTON
[1:44:35] .
[1:44:36] WE ABSOLUTELY NEED AFFORDABLE
[1:44:37] HOUSING AND WE ALSO WANT THE
[1:44:40] FULL QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR
[1:44:41] COMMUNITIES.
[1:44:42] THIS IS NOT JUST A CONCRETE
[1:44:43] JUNGLE AND PARKING LOT AND SO
[1:44:45] WE NEED IT ALL AND I DON'T
[1:44:47] THINK THESE THINGS NEED TO BE
[1:44:48] PUT IN OPPOSITION TO EACH
[1:44:50] OTHER.
[1:44:50] ABSOLUTELY.
[1:44:51] WE WANT TO UM, CONTINUE TO
[1:44:52] BUILD PARKS AND OPEN SPACE IN
[1:44:53] BOSTON.
[1:44:54] THE NEXT 5 TO 10 YEARS ARE
[1:44:57] CRITICAL FOR THAT.
[1:44:58] UH, LAND IS GETTING GOBBLED UP.
[1:45:00] IT IS SCARCE.
[1:45:01] IF WE DON'T PUT IT NOW INTO
[1:45:02] OPEN SPACE, IT WON'T BE HERE IN
[1:45:04] 5 TO 10 YEARS TO DO FOR FUTURE
[1:45:06] GENERATIONS.
[1:45:07] SO THIS THIS IS A CRITICAL
[1:45:08] MOMENT THAT WILL AFFECT THE
[1:45:09] CHARACTER OF THE CITY FOR
[1:45:10] GENERATIONS TO COME.
[1:45:11] AND WE'VE REALLY APPRECIATED
[1:45:13] THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CITY
[1:45:14] OF BOSTON.
[1:45:15] IT'S BEEN A VERY STRONG
[1:45:16] PARTNERSHIP THAT'S BEEN
[1:45:17] ALLOWING THIS WORK TO HAPPEN.
[1:45:18] AND WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN FIND
[1:45:19] WAYS TO UH, YOU KNOW, FIND
[1:45:21] AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITHOUT
[1:45:22] CUTTING FUNDING TO OPEN SPACE.
[1:45:23] THANK YOU.
[1:45:25] IS THERE ANYONE HERE THAT
[1:45:27] UM.
[1:45:29] UM IF ANYONE'S HERE THAT.
[1:45:30] WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY AND NEEDS
[1:45:33] TO SIGN UP?
[1:45:35] FRANK, YOU LOOK YOU KNOW YOUR
[1:45:37] NAME.
[1:45:38] I THINK I'M JUST JOKING.
[1:45:40] I SAID I'M YOU'RE LUCKY I KNOW
[1:45:41] YOUR NAME.
[1:45:42] HEIGHT.
[1:45:43] YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES, FRANK.
[1:45:45] YEAH.
[1:45:45] UH, VERY QUICKLY.
[1:45:46] FRANK O'BRIEN.
[1:45:47] I LIVE IN ROSLINDALE.
[1:45:49] UH, THESE COMMENTS ARE ON MY
[1:45:50] OWN.
[1:45:50] WE HAVE A FEW QUICK COMMENTS.
[1:45:52] UH, AND CULTURE ROSE QUITE
[1:45:56] RIGHT IN RAISING THIS ISSUE.
[1:45:58] AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE
[1:46:00] MUNICIPAL UH, RESEARCH BUREAUS
[1:46:02] REPORT, THE CPA RECOMMENDATION
[1:46:04] IS ONE OF MULTIPLE
[1:46:06] RECOMMENDATIONS.
[1:46:06] SO LOOKING AT IT
[1:46:08] COMPREHENSIVELY IT WOULD MAKE
[1:46:08] SENSE.
[1:46:09] THE CPA IS REALLY THE PEOPLE'S
[1:46:11] BUDGET.
[1:46:12] UH SO JEAN DOES AN AMAZING HER
[1:46:13] TEAM DOES MISS BROWN AND HER
[1:46:15] TEAM DO AN AMAZING JOB
[1:46:17] OF OUTREACHING TO THE COMMUNITY
[1:46:18] AND HEARING FROM NEIGHBORS WHAT
[1:46:20] THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN THEIR
[1:46:21] OWN COMMUNITY.
[1:46:21] WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT.
[1:46:23] UM, THERE ARE OTHER SOURCES
[1:46:25] OF FUNDING THAT WE SHOULD TAP
[1:46:27] INTO COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE FOR
[1:46:29] EXAMPLE AT ONE POINT RAISED THE
[1:46:30] IDEA OF ARE WE MAXIMIZING THE
[1:46:33] CITY'S BORROWING CAPACITY?
[1:46:34] I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S
[1:46:35] SOMETHING THAT YOU STILL WANT
[1:46:37] TO CARRY FORWARD, BUT WE SHOULD
[1:46:39] LOOK AT THE TOTALITY OF OUR
[1:46:40] OF OUR RESOURCES AND CERTAINLY
[1:46:43] LASTLY FORGING EFFECTIVE
[1:46:46] RELATIONSHIPS ON BEACON HILL IS
[1:46:48] AN ABSOLUTE MUST.
[1:46:49] AND SO WORKING TOGETHER WE CAN
[1:46:52] REALLY SOLVE AND MAKE SOME REAL
[1:46:53] PROGRESS AT A CHALLENGING TIME
[1:46:55] FOR THE CITY IN THE COUNTRY.
[1:46:56] THANK YOU.
[1:46:57] THANK YOU FRANK OKAY THAT IS
[1:47:01] ALL.
[1:47:02] I'M NOW GOING TO MOVE.
[1:47:03] FORWARD WITH THE NEXT PANEL.
[1:47:09] UM THE.
[1:47:10] NEXT PANEL WOULD BE.
[1:47:11] ELDER BERNADINE.
[1:47:14] THEN WE HAVE THREE OTHERS.
[1:47:17] I HEAR DONALD, ALEXIS.
[1:47:20] HILLARY HEIZER SHE'S RACHEL AND
[1:47:22] STEVE PUFF.
[1:47:22] TUCK, IF YOU COULD.
[1:47:24] PLEASE UM, TAKE YOUR SEAT HERE
[1:47:27] IN THE FRONT.
[1:47:38] SO.
[1:47:40] JUST OKAY.
[1:47:42] THANK YOU.
[1:47:43] AND TO IF THERE'S ANYONE FOR.
[1:47:46] VIRTUAL PUBLIC TESTIMONY, UM, I
[1:47:49] DO APOLOGIZE, BUT YOU WILL BE
[1:47:51] WE WILL, UM, TAKE YOUR
[1:47:53] TESTIMONY RIGHT AFTER THIS
[1:47:54] PANEL CONCLUDES.
[1:47:57] THEIR PRESENTATION.
[1:48:33] PERFECT.
[1:48:34] UM, DO WE HAVE A HILLARY
[1:48:35] VIRTUALLY.
[1:48:38] UM.
[1:48:40] OKAY.
[1:48:42] ALL RIGHT.
[1:48:43] GENTLEMEN, IT'S GOOD TO SEE
[1:48:44] YOU.
[1:48:44] THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
[1:48:46] UM, WHAT I WHERE WE'RE GOING TO
[1:48:48] DO IS KIND OF HAVE YOU
[1:48:49] INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, UM.
[1:48:50] FOR YOUR NAME, WHAT
[1:48:51] ORGANIZATION YOU'RE
[1:48:52] REPRESENTING.
[1:48:53] OR ANY.
[1:48:53] CAPACITY THAT YOU MAY BE
[1:48:54] HERE AND AND THEN UM, IF YOU
[1:48:56] HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT YOU
[1:48:58] LIKE TO GIVE OR ANY OPENING.
[1:48:59] REMARKS.
[1:49:00] YOU CAN THEN PROCEED TO DO
[1:49:01] THAT AND THEN WE'LL DO A Q&A
[1:49:03] WITH WITH MY COLLEAGUES.
[1:49:04] THE SOUND GOOD?
[1:49:05] SOUNDS GOOD.
[1:49:06] PERFECT.
[1:49:07] UM, DONALD.
[1:49:09] I WOULD START WITH YOU, MATT.
[1:49:15] HELLO.
[1:49:16] GOOD AFTERNOON.
[1:49:16] UM, MY NAME IS DONALD ALEXIS
[1:49:19] AND UH, I WANT TO THANK
[1:49:21] MR CHAIR PIPPIN AND AND CONSOLE
[1:49:24] .
[1:49:24] WELL.
[1:49:25] AND, UM, AND THE MEMBERS
[1:49:28] COMMITTEE FOR HAVING MEJIA
[1:49:29] TODAY TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU.
[1:49:31] SO MY NAME IS DONALD ALEXIS AND
[1:49:33] I AM THE PRESIDENT OF CARIBBEAN
[1:49:35] INTEGRATION COMMUNITY
[1:49:36] DEVELOPMENT.
[1:49:36] SO A SOCIAL JUSTICE, UH, HAS AN
[1:49:41] ORGANIZATION BASED IN MATTAPAN
[1:49:42] AND, UM.
[1:49:46] AND I'M HONORED TO BE IN FRONT
[1:49:47] OF YOU TODAY.
[1:49:55] SORRY, RYAN.
[1:49:57] OVERRIDING YOU FEEL LIKE I NEED
[1:49:58] TO MANIFEST COUNCILOR HERE
[1:50:01] BEING IN HER, UH, BEING IN HER
[1:50:02] SEAT HERE.
[1:50:03] UM, MY NAME IS STEVE PTAK.
[1:50:05] I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE
[1:50:07] BOSTON MUNICIPAL RESEARCH
[1:50:08] BUREAU.
[1:50:09] I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF, UH,
[1:50:11] DISTRICT FIVE, WHICH I HAVE IN
[1:50:13] COMMON WITH THE CHAIR.
[1:50:14] UH, I'M GOING TO I'M
[1:50:15] APPRECIATIVE OF THE COMMITTEE'S
[1:50:17] INVITATION.
[1:50:18] THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
[1:50:20] YEAH.
[1:50:21] HI.
[1:50:21] GOOD MORNING.
[1:50:22] UH, MY NAME IS.
[1:50:23] ADLER BERNARD AND I AM.
[1:50:24] UH, CO-OWNER OF NORFOLK.
[1:50:26] DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
[1:50:27] UH, WE ARE A LAND DEVELOPMENT
[1:50:29] FIRM AND.
[1:50:29] UH.
[1:50:30] CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT
[1:50:30] FIRM.
[1:50:31] WE DO A LOT OF.
[1:50:32] WORK AND UH.
[1:50:32] UH, BOSTON AREA PREDOMINANTLY
[1:50:34] IN MATTAPAN, DORCHESTER,
[1:50:36] ROXBURY, UM, BUILDING.
[1:50:37] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[1:50:38] UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY
[1:50:40] CLOSELY WITH THE CITY.
[1:50:41] IN TERMS OF BUILDING AFFORDABLE
[1:50:42] HOUSING.
[1:50:44] UM IT'S AT THE CORE OF OUR
[1:50:45] MISSION, UM OF WHAT WE DO.
[1:50:47] WE HAVE, UH, LONG PIPELINE
[1:50:50] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS
[1:50:51] THAT ARE EITHER IN EITHER IN
[1:50:54] CONSTRUCTION OR PRE-DEVELOPMENT
[1:50:57] ,UM, READY FOR PRODUCTION.
[1:50:59] AND WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE TO
[1:51:01] HAVE RECEIVED FUNDING FROM THE
[1:51:03] CPA UM.
[1:51:04] PROGRAM BOTH FOR AFFORDABLE
[1:51:06] HOUSING DEALS AS WELL AS UM
[1:51:08] OPEN SPACE.
[1:51:09] AND WE HAVE A GREAT PROJECT
[1:51:11] THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDERWAY
[1:51:12] THAT'S UTILIZING CPA FUNDING
[1:51:14] FOR BOTH.
[1:51:16] THAT'S GREAT.
[1:51:18] THANK YOU.
[1:51:19] UM IS THERE DO YOU HAVE A
[1:51:21] PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING THAT
[1:51:21] YOU WANT TO PROVIDE BEFORE WE
[1:51:22] GO INTO Q&A?
[1:51:24] YEAH I COULD I COULD.
[1:51:26] PROVIDE ONE PERFECT.
[1:51:27] UM AGAIN WE DO A LOT
[1:51:28] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH THE
[1:51:30] CITY OF BOSTON.
[1:51:31] UM, CURRENTLY WE UM WE'VE
[1:51:33] DELIVERED 27 AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[1:51:35] HOMES.
[1:51:36] UH, WE HAVE 57 UNITS
[1:51:39] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S
[1:51:40] CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
[1:51:42] UM, 75 UNITS THAT'S THAT'S IN
[1:51:45] PRE-CONSTRUCTION SO ROUGHLY 160
[1:51:48] UNITS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE
[1:51:50] DEVELOPING AND WE NEED FUNDING.
[1:51:54] SO IT'S UH SO HAVING THIS
[1:51:57] DISCUSSION ON THE CPA PROGRAM
[1:51:59] IS UM IS VERY TIMELY IN UM AND
[1:52:02] MEANS A LOT TO US WITH UM, WHAT
[1:52:05] WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING UM, IN
[1:52:08] THE CITY OF BOSTON.
[1:52:09] UM, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT I
[1:52:10] ALLUDED TO EARLIER THAT WE'RE
[1:52:12] WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH UH,
[1:52:15] THE CPA PROGRAM IS UH 3036
[1:52:18] MILLION HAVE UH UH WHICH
[1:52:20] CONSISTS OF BUILDING SIX UNITS
[1:52:22] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL
[1:52:24] AS UM BUILDING UM UH COMMUNITY
[1:52:28] GARDEN, UH, RIGHT THERE IN
[1:52:30] MATTAPAN THAT'S GOING TO BE NOT
[1:52:31] ONLY UH THAT'S GOING TO BE
[1:52:33] SERVING SOME OF THE RESIDENTS
[1:52:35] THAT ARE IN THE AREA BUT ALSO
[1:52:36] THE THE UH.
[1:52:38] THE MILDRED AVE K TO TO EIGHT
[1:52:41] UM SCHOOL THAT IS RIGHT ACROSS
[1:52:42] THE STREET FROM IT AND SO FAR
[1:52:44] THAT PROJECT HAS BEEN GOING
[1:52:45] GREAT AND WE'RE VERY
[1:52:47] APPRECIATIVE OF UH THE CPA
[1:52:49] FUNDING THAT WE RECEIVE FOR
[1:52:50] THAT PROJECT.
[1:52:51] UH, WITHOUT THOSE FUNDING THAT
[1:52:53] PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN
[1:52:55] ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD.
[1:52:56] UM, SO.
[1:52:58] IN REGARDS TO.
[1:53:00] BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
[1:53:02] THE CURRENT CLIMATE THAT WE'RE
[1:53:04] IN, UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, JUST
[1:53:08] FROM LAST YEAR ALONE, UH, THERE
[1:53:11] HAS BEEN ROUGHLY 4% ESCALATION
[1:53:14] IN THE CONSTRUCTION MARKET, UH
[1:53:16] ,WHICH IS WHICH IS HIGH
[1:53:18] TYPICALLY YOU SEE 2 TO 3%.
[1:53:21] UM, SO THERE IS STARTING TO BE
[1:53:23] A EVEN GREATER GAP IN TERMS
[1:53:25] OF UH THE AFFORDABILITY TO
[1:53:28] BUILD UM, PERIOD.
[1:53:30] UM, AND WE'RE SEEING PRICING
[1:53:32] FOR FOR HOMES ROUGHLY UH 292 UH
[1:53:36] 400 $400 A SQUARE FOOT FOR JUST
[1:53:39] CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
[1:53:41] UM AND AS FAR AS THE U.S COSTS
[1:53:43] ,UH, OVERALL WE'RE SEEING 4.5%
[1:53:47] YEAR OVER YEAR.
[1:53:48] UH, WE'RE SEEING A LOT
[1:53:50] OF ESCALATION ON LUMBER, ON
[1:53:51] ALUMINUM, ON STEEL, UM,
[1:53:54] CRITICAL ITEMS THAT UM WE WE
[1:53:57] NEED TO UH, TO BUILD TO BUILD
[1:53:59] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[1:54:01] SO A SUBSIDY AWARD SIZE TWO
[1:54:04] YEARS AGO NO LONGER CLOSE THE
[1:54:05] GAP TODAY.
[1:54:07] UH, APPROVED.
[1:54:08] PROJECTS ARE ARRIVING AT A
[1:54:10] CLOSING SHORTFALL.
[1:54:12] UH, BASED ON THE AMOUNT
[1:54:13] OF ESCALATION THAT WE'RE
[1:54:14] EXPERIENCING IN THE MARKET.
[1:54:16] UM, AND ON A ON A HUMAN LEVEL
[1:54:21] AND FOR FAMILIES THAT ACTUALLY
[1:54:23] NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WE'RE
[1:54:26] SEEING JUST BASED ON A STUDY
[1:54:28] DONE BY THE BOSTON FOUNDATION,
[1:54:31] ONLY 1 IN 7 GREATER BOSTON
[1:54:33] RENTERS, UH, CAN'T AFFORD A
[1:54:35] STARTER HOME IN THIS CLIMATE
[1:54:38] RIGHT NOW.
[1:54:39] UH, THE INCOME NEED ROSE FROM
[1:54:40] ABOUT 98,000 TO 160,000 IN 2025
[1:54:46] .
[1:54:47] THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE JUMP IN
[1:54:49] TERMS OF WHAT A FAMILY WOULD
[1:54:51] NEED TO ACTUALLY BUY A STARTER
[1:54:52] HOME.
[1:54:54] UM, BOSTON PERMITS HAD UH WE'RE
[1:54:58] SEEING ROUGHLY 430 UNITS UH
[1:55:02] APPROVED IN Q1 OF 2026.
[1:55:04] IT'S ON PACE TO THE SLOWEST
[1:55:06] YEAR IN SINCE 2010.
[1:55:10] SO THE ESCALATION EXPERIENCE IN
[1:55:12] THE MARKET IS REALLY PLAYING A
[1:55:13] HUGE FACTOR UH TO THAT.
[1:55:18] SO WHAT'S WHAT'S MY ASK?
[1:55:20] UM I'M I'M VERY FULL SUPPORT
[1:55:24] OF UM INCREASING THE DOLLARS
[1:55:26] THAT GO TOWARDS UM HOUSING AND
[1:55:29] UH FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM
[1:55:31] THE CPA FUND UH RAISING THE CPA
[1:55:33] HOUSING GOAL FROM 50 TO TOWARDS
[1:55:36] 80% UH, STARTING WITH THE NEXT
[1:55:39] ROUND, UH, DEDICATED A
[1:55:41] MEANINGFUL SHARE TO AFFORDABLE
[1:55:43] HOMEOWNERSHIP, UM, TO SUSTAIN
[1:55:45] PROJECTS SIMILAR TO THE WELCOME
[1:55:47] HOME BOSTON UH, WHICH HAS BEEN
[1:55:49] VERY SUCCESSFUL UM AND
[1:55:53] PROVIDING FAMILIES UM
[1:55:55] OPPORTUNITIES TO AFFORD AFFORD
[1:55:57] UH TO BUILD GENERATIONAL WEALTH
[1:56:00] UM SIZE PER UNIT TOWARDS THE
[1:56:02] CURRENT CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
[1:56:03] AGAIN THERE'S A LOT
[1:56:04] OF ESCALATION IN THE MARKET.
[1:56:06] UM SO WE WE DEFINITELY NEED
[1:56:08] SOME OF THE UH SUBSIDIES PER
[1:56:11] UNIT THAT WE TYPICALLY USE IN
[1:56:13] THE PAST.
[1:56:14] IT IT DOESN'T REALLY UM,
[1:56:17] COINCIDE WITH UM, WHAT THE
[1:56:19] MARKET IS CURRENTLY
[1:56:20] EXPERIENCING.
[1:56:22] SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
[1:56:23] UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO UM, THE
[1:56:25] CONVERSATION.
[1:56:26] THANK YOU.
[1:56:27] I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE.
[1:56:29] THAT WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY
[1:56:31] HILARY PIZER.
[1:56:32] SHE'S UM VIRTUAL.
[1:56:33] SO THANK.
[1:56:34] YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US,
[1:56:35] HILARY.
[1:56:37] UM, OKAY.
[1:56:39] DONALD.
[1:56:39] YEAH.
[1:56:40] SO, UM, LET ME JUST ADD A
[1:56:42] FEW THINGS I THINK.
[1:56:44] UM, I.
[1:56:45] GOT ABOUT HALF DECENT
[1:56:47] PRESENTATION.
[1:56:47] LET ME JUST ADD A FEW THINGS
[1:56:48] BASED ON WHAT UM, I JUST SAID I
[1:56:51] THINK UM, ALSO I'M VERY IN
[1:56:54] FAVOR OF INCREASING THE SHARE
[1:56:58] OF OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
[1:56:59] THE CITY BUT ALSO TO
[1:57:01] ACKNOWLEDGE BOSTON, UM, IS A
[1:57:05] CITY WITH A LOT OF RESOURCES
[1:57:06] LIKE, YOU KNOW, AND.
[1:57:08] AND I.
[1:57:08] HATE THAT.
[1:57:09] WE HAVE TO.
[1:57:10] SPEND UH UM UH, OPEN SPACE
[1:57:14] HISTORICAL UM AGAINST
[1:57:16] AFFORDABLE HOUSING BECAUSE WE
[1:57:17] NEED AN ECOSYSTEM WHERE
[1:57:19] EVERYBODY CAN THRIVE AND THAT
[1:57:20] INCLUDE HAVE NICE OPEN SPACE
[1:57:22] AND HAVE UH UM HAVE UM SPACE
[1:57:28] SPACES.
[1:57:29] UM HOW DOES CHURCH OR OR UH OR
[1:57:33] SPACE THAT SERVE THE COMMUNITY
[1:57:35] ALSO WE NEED ALL OF THAT SO MY
[1:57:38] HOUSE WOULD BE SO AS WE'RE
[1:57:41] LOOKING AS WE'RE HAVING THAT
[1:57:42] CONVERSATION IS A GREAT
[1:57:43] CONVERSATION TO HAVE TODAY SO
[1:57:44] THAT GIVE US UM SAY LISTEN CPI
[1:57:48] BEEN IT'S BEEN GOING STRONG BUT
[1:57:51] ALSO THERE'S SOME STUFF WE CAN.
[1:57:53] CHANGE YOU KNOW AND I WOULD SAY
[1:57:56] EMERGING DEVELOPER SHOULD BE
[1:57:57] PART OF THE SOLUTION BECAUSE
[1:57:59] WHEN UH UM YOU SEE THE
[1:58:03] IMMEDIATE RESULT SO.
[1:58:06] UM CARIBBEAN INTEGRATION HAS
[1:58:08] BENEFITED FROM TWO OPEN SPACE
[1:58:10] GRANTS UH IN MATT UP IN CODY
[1:58:12] VILLAGE AND IN MARTIN STATION
[1:58:14] YOU KNOW SO YOU HAVE UM YOU
[1:58:17] HAVE A RIBBON CUTTING.
[1:58:18] PEOPLE COME IN AND PEOPLE KNOW
[1:58:19] EXACTLY THERE'S A SIGN THAT
[1:58:20] SAYS CPA PEOPLE KNOW EXACTLY
[1:58:23] THOSE WHO WILL BUILD BY CPA BUT
[1:58:24] FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING YOU KNOW
[1:58:27] IT CAN TAKE FROM FROM THREE
[1:58:29] YEARS TO FIVE YEARS BEFORE
[1:58:30] THOSE UNITS BEEN BUILT.
[1:58:33] SO YOU DON'T SEE THE DO WORK
[1:58:35] IMPACT OF OF CPA DOLLARS INTO
[1:58:38] HIRES INSIDE.
[1:58:39] SO I THINK THAT'S WHY IF WE CAN
[1:58:41] WORK MORE WITH EMERGING
[1:58:43] DEVELOPERS SO THAT DOING UM
[1:58:46] SMALLER HOUSING DEVELOPMENT
[1:58:47] THOSE GET BUILT FASTER, YOU GET
[1:58:49] TO SEE IT LIKE YOU KNOW THAT
[1:58:50] CREATE A BETTER INCENTIVE TO TO
[1:58:54] UH TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
[1:58:55] SO THAT WOULD BE MY TAKE ON IT.
[1:58:57] SO BUT I DO UH I DO NOT FAVOR
[1:58:59] UM.
[1:59:00] A TO MOVE IT FROM 50% TO 60%
[1:59:03] BUT ALSO HAVE MORE EMERGING
[1:59:05] DEVELOPER AT THE TABLE TO GET
[1:59:07] THOSE YOU NEED TO BUILD FASTER.
[1:59:09] THANK YOU.
[1:59:11] YEP.
[1:59:11] JUST JUST.
[1:59:12] YOU KNOW, VERY BRIEFLY.
[1:59:13] UM.
[1:59:14] YOU KNOW, I NOTE THAT THE
[1:59:15] FRAME FOR THIS DISCUSSION IS
[1:59:16] SORT OF THIS AWKWARD PICK THE
[1:59:19] CHILD WHO LOVE BEST YET RIGHT
[1:59:21] AND AND THAT THAT'S A TOUGH
[1:59:22] SPACE TO BE IN.
[1:59:24] UM HOWEVER THIS BODY MAKES
[1:59:26] THOSE TYPES OF PRIORITIZATION
[1:59:29] DECISIONS DIRECTLY OR
[1:59:30] INDIRECTLY AT ALMOST EVERY
[1:59:32] MEETING.
[1:59:32] UH, SO SORT OF I KIND OF A I
[1:59:35] REJECT THE NOTION THAT THAT WE
[1:59:39] CAN'T MAKE A CHANGE HERE
[1:59:41] BECAUSE IT'S TOO HARD I THINK
[1:59:43] UM I WOULD YOU KNOW, I WOULD
[1:59:45] URGE YOU KNOW, I WOULD URGE
[1:59:46] THIS BODY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT
[1:59:48] WHAT ARE WHAT ARE THE
[1:59:49] PRIORITIES WHAT ARE THE MOST
[1:59:50] IMPORTANT, UH, THINGS THAT WE
[1:59:52] NEED TO DO AS A CITY, UH, TO
[1:59:55] SERVE OUR COMMUNITY.
[1:59:56] I'D ALSO NOTE THAT I THINK
[1:59:57] THERE'S A COUPLE WAYS TO THINK
[1:59:59] ABOUT THIS.
[1:59:59] RIGHT.
[1:59:59] UH, WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE
[2:00:01] VOLUME OF APPLICATIONS FOR THE
[2:00:02] THREE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
[2:00:04] I WOULD ALSO SAY THE OTHER WAY
[2:00:06] TO THINK ABOUT IT IS FROM YOUR
[2:00:08] TIME IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT IS
[2:00:09] THE GREATEST NEED AND UM AND
[2:00:11] DRAW YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS THERE
[2:00:13] .
[2:00:14] I HAD JUST WANTED TO ADD A
[2:00:15] LITTLE BIT MORE DATA.
[2:00:16] UH, SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE BEEN
[2:00:18] KIND ENOUGH TO CITE PREVIOUS
[2:00:19] RESEARCH, UH, WHICH I'M YOU
[2:00:21] KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GRATEFUL FOR
[2:00:23] ONE, I WANT TO BE RESPONSIVE TO
[2:00:25] COUNCILOR WARHOL'S QUESTION.
[2:00:26] UM, PART OF THE REASON THERE
[2:00:28] WAS SUCH A HIGH PERCENTAGE
[2:00:29] OF SPENDING ON AFFORDABLE
[2:00:30] HOUSING IN FY 20 WAS THAT THERE
[2:00:32] WAS A RELATIVELY LOW LEVEL
[2:00:34] OF OVERALL SPENDING FROM THE
[2:00:35] CPA.
[2:00:36] I'M I'M I'M STILL I'M NOT I
[2:00:39] CAN'T OFF THE TOP OF THE HEAD
[2:00:40] TELL YOU WHY BUT IN THAT CASE
[2:00:43] THE DENOMINATOR SHRANK THE
[2:00:45] NUMERATOR THE AMOUNT SPEND ON
[2:00:47] AFFORDABLE HOUSING WAS ROUGHLY
[2:00:48] CONSISTENT WITH THE YEARS THAT
[2:00:49] FOLLOWED.
[2:00:50] SO I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S
[2:00:51] REFLECTIVE OF A POLICY DECISION
[2:00:53] IN THAT PARTICULAR YEAR.
[2:00:55] I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING
[2:00:55] ANOMALOUS HAPPENING.
[2:00:57] UM, JUST TO CLOSE WITH A LITTLE
[2:00:59] BIT OF DATA.
[2:01:00] UM, OVERALL THE CITY OVER THE
[2:01:02] LAST EIGHT YEARS UH HAS SPENT
[2:01:06] 51.4% OF ITS COMMUNITY
[2:01:08] PRESERVATION ACT FUNDS ON
[2:01:09] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:01:11] UH, THAT'S THROUGH 2025.
[2:01:14] UM, 51.4% IS OBVIOUSLY BELOW
[2:01:17] THE POTENTIAL MAXIMUM OF 80%,
[2:01:19] WHICH IS WHAT CAMBRIDGE SPENDS.
[2:01:22] UM AND HAD BOSTON CHOOSE CHOSEN
[2:01:24] TO SPEND AT THAT 80% LEVEL,
[2:01:26] THAT WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN
[2:01:28] ADDITIONAL $65.8 MILLION UM,
[2:01:32] GOING TOWARDS AFFORDABLE
[2:01:34] HOUSING WHICH IS ROUGHLY A 56%
[2:01:35] INCREASE OVER WHAT WAS ACTUALLY
[2:01:38] SPENT.
[2:01:38] SO I DO ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK
[2:01:41] UH, THINK THIS ISSUE THROUGH
[2:01:44] CAREFULLY AND UNDERSTAND THAT
[2:01:45] THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT, UH,
[2:01:48] SIGNIFICANT POTENTIAL IMPACTS
[2:01:50] OF CHANGING THAT FUNDING
[2:01:51] ALLOCATION.
[2:01:52] SO THANK YOU CHAIR.
[2:01:52] THANK YOU.
[2:01:56] UH UM.
[2:01:59] HILLARY NOW CAN YOU HEAR IT CAN
[2:02:01] YOU HEAR ME?
[2:02:01] PERFECT.
[2:02:02] WOULD YOU.
[2:02:03] LIKE TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
[2:02:03] TO.
[2:02:04] INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND IN
[2:02:05] PROVIDING THE.
[2:02:06] OPENING REMARKS?
[2:02:07] SURE.
[2:02:08] THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I
[2:02:09] APPRECIATE YOUR FLEXIBILITY.
[2:02:10] I HAD SOME FAMILY ISSUES COME
[2:02:12] UP AT THE LAST MOMENT SO I
[2:02:14] APPRECIATE THE THE VIDEO LINK.
[2:02:16] UM, MANY OF YOU KNOW I AM THE
[2:02:19] DIRECTOR OF ORGANIZING AND
[2:02:20] POLICY AT MAHA, THE MASS
[2:02:22] AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:02:23] ALLIANCE IN DORCHESTER.
[2:02:26] UM AND WE SERVE ABOUT 3,001ST
[2:02:29] TIME HOMEBUYERS AND HOMEOWNERS
[2:02:33] EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
[2:02:35] UM, 80% OF THEM ARE BELOW 80%
[2:02:39] AM I AND THAT AM I AS WE KNOW
[2:02:42] IS MUCH BROADER THAN BOSTON.
[2:02:44] BUT EVEN WITHIN BOSTON I WOULD
[2:02:47] SAY THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO
[2:02:49] REMEMBER THAT THE BLACK AND
[2:02:50] LATINO UH, MEDIAN INCOME IS
[2:02:53] ABOUT HALF A LITTLE BIT LESS
[2:02:56] THAN HALF ACTUALLY OF UH MEDIAN
[2:02:58] INCOME FOR WHITE HOUSEHOLDS.
[2:03:00] SO WHEN WE LOOK AT HOW ARE WE
[2:03:02] GOING TO SHRINK THE HUGE
[2:03:05] HOMEOWNERSHIP AND WEALTH GAPS
[2:03:06] IN THE CITY AND ACROSS THE
[2:03:08] STATE, HOMEOWNERSHIP AND ACCESS
[2:03:10] TO HOMEOWNERSHIP IS ONE OF THE
[2:03:12] MOST IMPORTANT VEHICLES FOR
[2:03:14] DOING THAT.
[2:03:16] UM, WE ARE REALLY APPRECIATIVE
[2:03:18] OF THE CPC AND THE CITY
[2:03:20] COUNCIL'S SUPPORT OF THE ONE
[2:03:22] PLUS BOSTON MORTGAGE PROGRAM.
[2:03:24] UM, AS THEY DEAN BROWN SAID IT
[2:03:29] HAS BEEN A TRANSFORMATIONAL
[2:03:31] PROGRAM.
[2:03:32] UM, I'M ALSO BY THE WAY, UH,
[2:03:34] FAN OF THANKING BROWN A MEMBER
[2:03:37] OF HER OF HER FAN CLUB.
[2:03:39] UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO
[2:03:42] MAKE SURE THAT, UM, WE'RE LEVEL
[2:03:45] SETTING HERE ON IS THAT THE ONE
[2:03:46] PLUS BOSTON PROGRAM HAS ALREADY
[2:03:48] BEEN CUT BACK DUE TO A SCARCITY
[2:03:51] OF FUNDS.
[2:03:52] UM, PARTICULARLY UH, THERE ARE
[2:03:56] TWO AREAS.
[2:03:57] ONE IS THAT IT?
[2:03:59] IT USED TO PROVIDE A TWO
[2:04:01] PERCENTAGE POINT INTEREST RATE
[2:04:02] DISCOUNT FOR HOMEBUYERS LESS
[2:04:05] WHOSE HOUSEHOLD INCOME WAS LESS
[2:04:07] THAN 80% A MEDIAN THAT IS NOW A
[2:04:10] 1% DISCOUNT, UM, ON A $400,000
[2:04:14] HOUSE WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE A
[2:04:16] MIDDLE FINGER BETWEEN SOME
[2:04:17] OF THE AFFORDABLE AND THE
[2:04:19] MARKET RATE.
[2:04:21] IT TRANSLATES INTO ABOUT $245 A
[2:04:24] MONTH IN ADDITIONAL COST.
[2:04:26] UH, FOR THOSE BUYERS UNDER
[2:04:29] 8,080% UM WHEN ONE PLUS BOSTON
[2:04:31] WAS ORIGINALLY UH CONTEMPLATED
[2:04:35] AND IT WAS A REALLY GREAT UM,
[2:04:38] YOU KNOW, INTERDISCIPLINARY
[2:04:40] GROUP THAT WAS TRYING TO FIGURE
[2:04:41] OUT WHAT IS THE BEST, MOST
[2:04:43] EFFICIENT WAY TO GET PEOPLE
[2:04:44] INTO HOMES.
[2:04:46] UM, WE WERE THINKING OF HOW DO
[2:04:48] WE GET IT TO SO THAT PEOPLE CAN
[2:04:50] USE THIS PRODUCT TO ACCESS THE
[2:04:52] PRIVATE HOMEOWNERSHIP MARKET?
[2:04:55] NOW THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE WHO
[2:04:57] USE ONE PLUS BOSTON IN BOSTON,
[2:05:01] UM ARE ACTUALLY BUYING
[2:05:03] AFFORDABLE UNITS.
[2:05:04] UM, SO WHAT IT DOES IS TO UH
[2:05:07] COUNCILOR MORALES AND
[2:05:08] COUNCILOR LOUISIANA'S POINT IT
[2:05:11] OPENS UP SOME OF OUR AFFORDABLE
[2:05:13] HOUSING TO PEOPLE WHO ARE LOWER
[2:05:16] THAN THE ACTUAL INCOME LIMIT.
[2:05:19] AND AGAIN, THAT'S CRUCIAL IF
[2:05:21] YOU'RE TRYING TO SHRINK THE
[2:05:22] RACIAL HOMEOWNERSHIP GAP AND
[2:05:24] YOU REALIZE THAT THOSE MEDIAN
[2:05:25] COMES ARE DIFFERENT.
[2:05:27] UM, SO WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE
[2:05:30] THAT FULL ONE PLUS BOSTON
[2:05:32] PROGRAM RESTORED UNDERSTANDING
[2:05:34] THAT THERE IS A CRUNCH THERE
[2:05:36] THE OTHER TWO UH CATEGORIES
[2:05:39] THAT HAVE BEEN SHRUNK AND ONE
[2:05:40] PLUS BOSTON USED TO BE IF YOU
[2:05:42] WERE RECENTLY DISPLACED FROM
[2:05:44] BOSTON.
[2:05:45] SO IF YOU COULDN'T AFFORD TO
[2:05:46] RENT THERE ANYMORE AND YOU WENT
[2:05:48] DOWN TO THE SOUTH COAST TO
[2:05:50] RENT, YOU COULD USE ONE PLUS
[2:05:52] BOSTON TO COME BACK TO THE
[2:05:53] CITY.
[2:05:54] THAT'S NO LONGER THE CASE.
[2:05:56] UM, IF YOU WERE SAY LIVING IN
[2:05:59] BROCKTON OR ATTLEBORO AND
[2:06:00] WORKING IN THE CITY, YOU USED
[2:06:01] TO BE ABLE TO USE THE PROGRAM
[2:06:03] NOW YOU CAN'T UM, SO YOU KNOW,
[2:06:08] WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A MASSIVE
[2:06:10] SHORTAGE OF FUNDS FOR
[2:06:11] AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:06:12] OH, ONE PLUS BOSTON PROGRAM AND
[2:06:14] PRODUCTION.
[2:06:16] UM, WHAT I'M NOT AN EXPERT IN
[2:06:17] IS THE NEEDS RELATED TO GREEN
[2:06:19] SPACE AND HISTORIC PRESERVATION
[2:06:21] .
[2:06:22] UM, I CAN ONLY TELL YOU THAT WE
[2:06:24] NEED MORE MONEY FOR HOUSING AND
[2:06:26] IN PARTICULAR FOR
[2:06:28] HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:06:29] UM, BUT I THINK THERE'S A
[2:06:30] NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE CAN
[2:06:31] WORK ON TOGETHER.
[2:06:33] ONE IS LEGISLATION IS GOING TO
[2:06:35] BE FILED THE NEW LEGISLATURE TO
[2:06:37] INCREASE THE STATE CPA MATCH
[2:06:40] GENTLEMAN FROM UH DORCHESTER
[2:06:42] AND PEABODY.
[2:06:43] SQUARE CLOCK FAME UH MENTIONED
[2:06:45] THAT I THINK WE SHOULD ALL BE
[2:06:47] WORKING ON IT USED TO BE A 100%
[2:06:49] MATCH AND THE MORE COMMUNITIES
[2:06:50] HAVE COME IN THE LESS THE MATCH
[2:06:51] HAS BEEN AS A PERCENTAGE.
[2:06:54] UM, I DON'T WANT US TO GIVE UP
[2:06:55] ON THE REAL ESTATE TRANSFER
[2:06:57] FEE.
[2:06:57] UM, THAT WOULD GO A HUGE WAY
[2:07:01] AND WE DON'T HAVE UNANIMITY ON
[2:07:03] THE BOSTON DELEGATION AROUND
[2:07:04] THAT UM, AND EVEN ON THE
[2:07:07] COUNCIL.
[2:07:08] SO AGAIN, I THINK THAT IS
[2:07:11] REALLY, REALLY PROGRESSIVE FORM
[2:07:13] OF REVENUE.
[2:07:14] IT APPLIES ONLY TO
[2:07:15] MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR PROPERTIES
[2:07:16] BEING TRANSFERRED AND I THINK
[2:07:18] WE CAN BE CREATIVE SO THAT WE
[2:07:21] ARE NOT UNDERCUTTING NEW
[2:07:23] HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AS WE'RE
[2:07:24] TRYING TO MAKE IT MORE
[2:07:26] AFFORDABLE.
[2:07:27] UM WE'RE ALSO SEEING PROPERTY
[2:07:29] TAX RELIEF FOR SENIORS, YOU
[2:07:31] KNOW THAT WAS ATTACHED TO THAT
[2:07:33] HOME RULE PETITION.
[2:07:34] WE NEED TO GET THAT THROUGH
[2:07:36] BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE
[2:07:37] LOSING HOMEOWNERS AT THE BACK
[2:07:38] END WHILE WE'RE CREATING NEW
[2:07:40] ONES.
[2:07:41] UM, AND WE NEED A MORE BALANCED
[2:07:43] .
[2:07:44] STATE POLICY.
[2:07:46] WE HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT
[2:07:48] OF CAPITAL FUNDING FOR.
[2:07:49] HOUSING AND WE HAVE A $1.2
[2:07:53] BILLION OPERATING BUDGET FOR
[2:07:54] HOUSING CAPITAL SIDE.
[2:07:56] WE'RE SPENDING 4 TO 5% FOR
[2:07:59] HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:08:01] ON THE OPERATING SIDE, WE'RE
[2:08:02] SPENDING 0.04% FOR
[2:08:05] HOMEOWNERSHIP NOT EVEN A 10TH
[2:08:07] OF A PERCENT.
[2:08:08] SO I THINK THERE'S ROOM TO GROW
[2:08:10] THAT AND WE NEED TO BE
[2:08:11] ADVOCATING WITH SECRETARY
[2:08:12] MATTIS, THE GOVERNOR AND
[2:08:14] LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
[2:08:15] THE LAST THING I WILL SAY IS
[2:08:17] THAT WHEN WE'RE FUNDING
[2:08:19] INVESTMENTS TO BETTER THE
[2:08:20] QUALITY OF LIFE FOR BOSTON
[2:08:22] RESIDENTS, THAT COULD BE IN THE
[2:08:24] FORM OF NEW PARKS AND
[2:08:25] PLAYGROUNDS, IMPROVED TRANSIT
[2:08:27] OR OTHER AMENITIES.
[2:08:28] WE NEED TO MATCH THAT WITH A
[2:08:30] ROBUST AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[2:08:31] STRATEGY BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT
[2:08:33] THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD AMENITIES
[2:08:35] ARE GOING TO ATTRACT HIGHER
[2:08:37] INCOME PEOPLE AND POSSIBLY
[2:08:40] INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES WHICH
[2:08:41] INCREASE PROPERTY TAXES.
[2:08:44] SO WE WILL HAVE THESE NEW
[2:08:46] AMENITIES BUT THEY WON'T BE FOR
[2:08:48] THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IMAGINING
[2:08:49] THEM USING THOSE AMENITIES.
[2:08:51] NOW THOUGH, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
[2:08:53] WILL BE MORE BEAUTIFUL AND
[2:08:55] ACCESSIBLE BUT MOST OF THE
[2:08:57] PEOPLE THAT MY HEART WORKS WITH
[2:08:58] WON'T BE HERE TO ENJOY THE
[2:09:00] IMPROVEMENTS.
[2:09:01] SO WE NEED ANCHOR PEOPLE AND
[2:09:03] FAMILIES AND HOMEOWNERSHIP IS
[2:09:05] UNIQUELY EFFECTIVE IN PROMOTING
[2:09:08] LONG TERM STABILITY, ENABLING
[2:09:11] FAMILIES TO BUILD A NEST HOME
[2:09:14] IN BOSTON.
[2:09:15] UM SO WE NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT
[2:09:17] AS A HOLISTIC PIECE OTHERWISE
[2:09:20] AGAIN WE GET THE DISPLACEMENT
[2:09:22] AND WE GET A DIFFERENT CITY.
[2:09:24] UM SO THANK YOU AGAIN I REALLY
[2:09:26] APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO SHARE
[2:09:28] THESE UM, OBSERVATIONS FROM OUR
[2:09:31] LITTLE POINT OF VIEW.
[2:09:33] UM, AND WE REALLY LOOK FORWARD
[2:09:35] TO RESTORING THE FULL ONE PLUS
[2:09:36] BOSTON PROGRAM AND REALLY UM,
[2:09:39] MAKING SURE THAT AS ARPA ENDS
[2:09:42] AND THAT'S WHERE MOST OF THE
[2:09:44] AFFORDABLE UNITS HAVE COME FROM
[2:09:45] THAT ARE HOMEOWNERSHIP, THAT WE
[2:09:48] HAVE A ROBUST CITY POLICY AND
[2:09:50] THAT WE ARE ALL WORKING
[2:09:52] TOGETHER ON STATE POLICY.
[2:09:54] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[2:09:57] THANK YOU HILLARY.
[2:09:58] OKAY.
[2:09:59] NOW I'M GOING TO.
[2:10:01] UM DIVE.
[2:10:02] INTO THE Q&A PORTION.
[2:10:03] AND I'M.
[2:10:03] GOING TO START WITH.
[2:10:04] COUNCILOR EARL.
[2:10:05] AND THEN.
[2:10:06] COUNCILOR FLYNN LOUIJEUNE AND
[2:10:07] MYSELF COUNCILOR ALL YOU HAVE
[2:10:09] SEVEN MINUTES.
[2:10:10] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[2:10:11] AND THANK YOU UH TO THE
[2:10:12] PANELISTS THAT HERE HAD THE
[2:10:14] PLEASURE OF WORKING WITH
[2:10:15] EVERYONE ON THE PANEL UM AND
[2:10:17] HAVE UM, CONVERSATIONS AROUND A
[2:10:19] VARIETY OF THINGS.
[2:10:20] FIRST I JUST WANT TO UM, UM,
[2:10:26] STATE WHAT I WHAT IS ONLINE
[2:10:29] AROUND THE CURRENT UH UM UH,
[2:10:32] POLICY IS.
[2:10:33] AROUND CPA SO THERE'S 50% UM TO
[2:10:37] HOUSING, 20% OPEN SPACE AND
[2:10:39] THEN ANOTHER 20% TO UH HISTORIC
[2:10:42] PRESERVATION.
[2:10:43] BUT THERE IS A 10% FLEXIBLE
[2:10:46] ALLOCATION, UM, THAT UM IS
[2:10:50] THERE TO BE ALLOCATED BASED OFF
[2:10:54] OF WHERE THE THE BOARD SEES THE
[2:10:55] NEED.
[2:10:56] SO THERE IS A 10% FLEXIBLE
[2:10:59] ALLOCATION.
[2:10:59] AND AGAIN MY ADVOCACY IS LIKE
[2:11:02] WHEN DO WE UH OR HOW DO WE
[2:11:04] THINK ABOUT HOW WE USE THAT 10%
[2:11:07] OR EVEN HOW DO WE THINK ABOUT
[2:11:09] WHEN DO WE BE WHEN DO WE AS A
[2:11:11] BOARD OR A CITY UM DECIDE WHEN
[2:11:14] WE'RE FLEXIBLE ON THE CURRENT
[2:11:16] ALLOCATION.
[2:11:17] BUT YOU KNOW, WE.
[2:11:19] COULD TAKE A LOOK AT JUST
[2:11:20] THIS 10% FLEXIBLE ALLOCATION OR
[2:11:21] THINK ABOUT HOW WE DISTRIBUTE
[2:11:23] THE ALREADY PERMANENT
[2:11:25] ALLOCATIONS TO 50 AND 20.
[2:11:27] SO JUST JUST SOME THOUGHT THERE
[2:11:28] .
[2:11:28] BUT THE OTHER THING THAT I
[2:11:31] THOUGHT ABOUT I THINK IT WAS
[2:11:32] LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE WE
[2:11:34] WAS OVER AT MORTON STREET
[2:11:36] CELEBRATING UH THE SERENITY
[2:11:37] GARDEN.
[2:11:38] RIGHT.
[2:11:39] UM SO OPEN.
[2:11:39] SPACE UM AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[2:11:43] IS NOT IS UH TWO THINGS THAT
[2:11:44] CAN HAPPEN AT THE SAME TIME.
[2:11:46] A LOT OF OUR DEVELOPERS.
[2:11:48] CREATE OPEN SPACES WHEN THEY
[2:11:49] CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:11:51] ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT IS THE
[2:11:54] WORK AROUND WHAT'S THE
[2:11:56] WASHINGTON WHERE TRAVIS LEE, A
[2:11:58] DEVELOPER, WAS ABLE TO DONATE
[2:11:59] THE LAND ON NORWELL STREET TO
[2:12:01] CREATE A NEW PARK ON UH,
[2:12:04] WASHINGTON STREET FOR THE
[2:12:05] NEIGHBORHOOD.
[2:12:06] SO YOU DO HAVE THIS UM UM YOU
[2:12:11] DO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH,
[2:12:14] HELPING CREATE UH, SPREADING
[2:12:16] THE GARDENS, OPEN SPACE AND
[2:12:18] PARKS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AS
[2:12:20] WELL.
[2:12:20] UM, AND ALSO WHEN WE LOOK AT IN
[2:12:24] THE CITIES TELLING US WE'RE IN
[2:12:25] A UM A FINANCIAL CRUNCH, YOU
[2:12:27] KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE
[2:12:28] DEPEND ON, UH, WHEN IT COMES TO
[2:12:31] GENERATING REVENUE IS THE
[2:12:32] CREATION IS PROPERTY TAX.
[2:12:34] SO IT'S THE CREATION OF HOUSING
[2:12:36] THAT WOULD THEN GIVE US THE
[2:12:37] ABILITY TO FUND MORE OF PARKS.
[2:12:42] RIGHT.
[2:12:42] UH, TO GIVE MORE GRANTS UH, TO
[2:12:45] OTHER UH, CATEGORIES THAT WE'RE
[2:12:47] LOOKING TO FUND.
[2:12:49] SO I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS
[2:12:50] I ASK A QUESTION NOW.
[2:12:53] IS WHEN.
[2:12:53] IT COMES TO COST OF HOUSING AND
[2:12:57] THE CREATION OF HOUSING OR AS
[2:12:59] HOUSING AND I GUESS SALARY FOR
[2:13:01] YOU AND THE COST OF HOUSING HAS
[2:13:04] INCREASED.
[2:13:04] UH, HOW HAS FUNDS TOWARDS
[2:13:09] SUBSIDIZING OR TOWARDS PROGRAMS
[2:13:11] LIKE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE?
[2:13:13] UH THOSE STAYING WITHIN THE
[2:13:15] SAINT ARE THEY INCREASING THE
[2:13:18] SAME AMOUNT AS THE COST OR THE
[2:13:20] COST OF PURCHASING A HOME?
[2:13:23] SO THE.
[2:13:24] SUBSIDIES THAT YOU'RE
[2:13:24] RECEIVING HAVE THEY INCREASE
[2:13:26] THE SAME AMOUNT OVER THE YEARS
[2:13:30] AS UM THE COST THAT IT TAKES TO
[2:13:33] CONSTRUCT UH, A NEW HOME OR TO
[2:13:35] PURCHASE A HOME?
[2:13:36] IN HILLARY'S CASE.
[2:13:37] I WOULD SAY NO NOT NECESSARILY
[2:13:41] UH, FROM JUST FROM MY
[2:13:42] EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH, UH,
[2:13:43] THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OF HOUSING
[2:13:44] AT THE TIME IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S
[2:13:46] BEEN SOMEWHAT STATIC IN TERMS
[2:13:49] OF THE SUBSIDIES PER UNIT.
[2:13:52] UM, AS COST ESCALATION HAS
[2:13:54] CONTINUED TO INCREASE.
[2:13:55] UM, SO AS DEVELOPERS AND
[2:13:58] CONTRACTORS WE HAVE TO THINK
[2:13:59] VERY CREATIVELY IN TERMS
[2:14:03] OF FITTING INTO THAT BOX
[2:14:04] OF COST PER UNIT.
[2:14:06] UH, WHAT WE WHAT I MEAN BY
[2:14:08] THAT, UH, WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR
[2:14:10] IF I'M DOING A PROFORMA I'M
[2:14:12] LOOKING AT OKAY, HOW MANY UNITS
[2:14:14] COULD I FIT INTO THAT UM,
[2:14:16] OVERALL DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE
[2:14:18] SURE THAT, UH, THE SUBSIDIES
[2:14:19] THAT THE CITY IS PROVIDING, UM
[2:14:21] ,WILL BE ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY
[2:14:24] FUND THAT PROJECT.
[2:14:26] UM, IN SOME CASES WHERE THE LOT
[2:14:28] SIZE IS UM, THERE'S CONSTRAINTS
[2:14:30] WHERE THERE'S ONLY SO MANY
[2:14:31] UNITS YOU CAN BUILD.
[2:14:33] UM, OBVIOUSLY THAT DEVELOPMENT
[2:14:34] WILL NOT CANCEL OUT UM I THINK
[2:14:38] IT BECOMES IT BECOMES EVEN MORE
[2:14:40] DIFFICULT NOW WHERE UM THE CITY
[2:14:43] AND THE STATE USED TO WORK VERY
[2:14:45] CLOSELY IN TERMS OF WE'RE
[2:14:47] GETTING SUBSIDIES UH, THAT
[2:14:49] THEY'RE ALLOCATING FROM UH, THE
[2:14:51] CPA AND THE STATE IS USING
[2:14:53] COMMONWEALTH BUILDER FUNDS NOW
[2:14:55] THAT COMMONWEALTH BUILDER FUNDS
[2:14:56] HAVE DRIED UP, UM, OBVIOUSLY
[2:14:58] IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN MORE
[2:14:59] DIFFICULT TO LOOK AT.
[2:15:01] HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE, UH, SOME
[2:15:03] OF THESE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[2:15:04] DEALS PENCIL OUT.
[2:15:08] YEAH.
[2:15:08] UM, UM I THINK IDLER IS
[2:15:12] DEFINITELY CORRECT.
[2:15:13] SO WHEN UH UM SO ONE OF A
[2:15:16] PROJECT WE JUST WANT TO THE
[2:15:17] CITY AND THE STATE SO THEY ARE
[2:15:19] COP OUT HOW MUCH CAN YOU US AND
[2:15:21] OUR SUBSIDIES AND.
[2:15:24] UM EVEN IF YOU COMPARE LIKE
[2:15:25] THREE YEARS AGO THE NUMBER
[2:15:27] OF SUBSIDIES YOU HAD AVAILABLE
[2:15:28] WHEN YOU WALK IN AND YOU
[2:15:30] PERFORM IN TODAY IT'S IT'S IT'S
[2:15:32] IT'S GOING DOWN AND AND
[2:15:35] OBVIOUSLY CONSTRUCTION COSTS
[2:15:36] LAND COSTS YOU KNOW AND AND THE
[2:15:38] BIG THING.
[2:15:40] UM UM IS ONLY YOU KNOW WHEN YOU
[2:15:43] GET A LAND THAT'S NOT A FULL
[2:15:44] OF YET WHEN YOU GO INTO IT WHAT
[2:15:46] THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN
[2:15:48] THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW AND
[2:15:49] WHAT CAN YOU.
[2:15:51] UH.
[2:15:51] BUILD THAT FEASIBLE THAT'S A
[2:15:53] DIFFERENT CONVERSATION.
[2:15:54] SO I THINK WE HAVE UM I THINK
[2:15:55] DEVELOPER HAS A LOT
[2:15:57] OF CHALLENGES AND I WOULD EVEN
[2:15:58] GO FURTHER SAY SMALL DEVELOPERS
[2:16:02] FACING THE BRUNT OF IT BECAUSE
[2:16:03] THEY HAVE.
[2:16:05] UH UM.
[2:16:06] YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE
[2:16:07] UNLIMITED CREDIT ON.
[2:16:08] UM AND THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY
[2:16:10] TO TO UH TO WAGE EQUITY.
[2:16:13] SO A LOT OF TIME THEY DEPEND ON
[2:16:15] ON PUBLIC SUBSIDIES TO MAKE
[2:16:16] GOOD FOR THEM.
[2:16:18] SO THOSE OR DRYING OUT OR UM
[2:16:20] THAT'S A THAT'S ONE OF THE
[2:16:22] REASON UM I WHOLEHEARTEDLY IN
[2:16:23] FAVOR OF INCREASING CPA BECAUSE
[2:16:25] I THINK A PORTION OF IT SHOULD
[2:16:27] DO UH SHOULD BE LOOKING AT UH,
[2:16:31] DEALS THAT'S EMERGING
[2:16:33] DEVELOPERS WORKING ON TO HAVE
[2:16:35] THOSE BECAUSE IF THAT DOESN'T
[2:16:37] HAPPEN TODAY YOU HAVE A GROUP
[2:16:38] OF SMALL DEVELOPMENT WILL BE
[2:16:41] THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO CLOSE IT
[2:16:42] THAT WON'T BE ABLE TO DO IT
[2:16:43] BECAUSE ACTION WON'T BE FOR THE
[2:16:44] NEXT FEW YEARS AND THOSE FOLKS
[2:16:46] WILL GET OUT OF BUSINESS.
[2:16:47] SO I THINK WE HAVE TO BE A
[2:16:49] LITTLE BIT INTENTIONAL ABOUT UH
[2:16:51] ,HELP SUPPORT THE WHOLE BOSTON
[2:16:55] DEVELOPMENT ECOSYSTEM.
[2:16:55] SO.
[2:16:59] HILLARY, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND
[2:17:01] .
[2:17:02] OR I WOULD JUST SAY THAT YOU
[2:17:04] ASKED ALSO ABOUT THE DOWN
[2:17:06] PAYMENT SIDE AND THAT HAS ALSO
[2:17:09] CONTRACTED WITH THE ELIMINATION
[2:17:12] OF ARPA FUNDS OR THE UM, YOU
[2:17:14] KNOW, THE END OF ARPA FUNDS AND
[2:17:17] I TOTALLY AGREE THAT THE CITY
[2:17:20] UM, WORKED REALLY HARD TO HELP
[2:17:22] NEW DEVELOPERS GET INTO THE
[2:17:24] BUSINESS AND BUILD SOME OF THE
[2:17:26] HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.
[2:17:27] AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE
[2:17:29] THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE
[2:17:31] PROCESS HERE.
[2:17:32] UH, AND THEN ONE LAST QUESTION.
[2:17:35] UM, STEVE, UM, YOU MENTIONED IN
[2:17:38] YOUR REPORT AROUND UH,
[2:17:40] INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND LINKAGE
[2:17:42] UH, BUT THEN ALSO STATED TALKED
[2:17:44] .
[2:17:44] ABOUT THE CITY SHOULD.
[2:17:45] CONSIDER ALTERNATE FUNDING
[2:17:46] SOURCES AND THE IMPORTANCE
[2:17:47] OF PRIVATE HOUSING PRODUCTION
[2:17:48] DURING TIMES OF SLOW START.
[2:17:50] CAN YOU JUST YOU KNOW, SHARE
[2:17:52] FOR THE RECORD.
[2:17:53] AND FOR THE PUBLIC.
[2:17:54] UM, WHY YOU BELIEVE.
[2:17:57] THAT'S IMPORTANT?
[2:17:58] AND THEN ALSO.
[2:17:59] UH, YOUR THOUGHTS.
[2:17:59] AROUND INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND
[2:18:02] LINKAGE AND HOW UH, SLOW
[2:18:04] HOUSING STARTS, UM, IMPACTS UH,
[2:18:08] THOSE TWO PROGRAMS TO CREATE
[2:18:09] THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:18:11] SURE.
[2:18:12] HAPPY TO I THINK UH AND THIS
[2:18:14] ACTUALLY TIES BACK IT'S THIS IS
[2:18:15] SORT OF A MACRO ANSWER TO THE
[2:18:17] QUESTION UH, TO THE PREVIOUS
[2:18:19] QUESTION IN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE
[2:18:21] HAVE A SERIES OF SUBSIDIES FOR
[2:18:24] HOUSING INCLUSIONARY FOR
[2:18:25] AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
[2:18:26] INCLUSIONARY ZONING AND LINKAGE
[2:18:28] ARE KEY.
[2:18:29] PARTS OF THAT.
[2:18:30] THOSE PROGRAMS ARE
[2:18:31] FUNDAMENTALLY PRO CYCLICAL WHEN
[2:18:33] WHEN THE RESIDENTIAL MARKET IS
[2:18:35] PRODUCING HOUSING IT IS
[2:18:37] PRODUCING AFFORDABLE UNITS.
[2:18:39] IT'S PRODUCING FUNDING FOR MORE
[2:18:40] AFFORDABLE UNITS.
[2:18:41] WE ARE NOW IN A YOU KNOW WE ARE
[2:18:44] NOW IN THE DOWN PART OF THAT
[2:18:46] CYCLE.
[2:18:46] WE ARE NOT PRODUCING A LOT
[2:18:48] OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS AND THE
[2:18:51] TWO OF THE BIG PROGRAMS WE HAVE
[2:18:52] ARE NOT ARE NOT PRODUCTIVE.
[2:18:54] AND I THINK THAT IS A YOU KNOW,
[2:18:55] THAT IS A BROADER POLICY
[2:18:57] QUESTION FOR US TO GRAPPLE
[2:18:58] WITH.
[2:18:58] RIGHT?
[2:18:58] DO WE DO WE WANT AFFORDABLE
[2:19:00] HOUSING FUNDING TO BE SO
[2:19:03] DEPENDENT ON KIND OF THESE PRO
[2:19:05] CYCLICAL POLICIES OR DO WE WANT
[2:19:06] TO THINK IN THE LONGER TERM
[2:19:08] ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SOME
[2:19:09] THINGS THAT MIGHT BE
[2:19:10] COUNTERCYCLICAL THAT WHEN WE
[2:19:11] HAVE A DOWN MARKET WE CAN STILL
[2:19:13] PRODUCE UNITS?
[2:19:14] SO UH, YOU KNOW THAT I GUESS
[2:19:16] YOU KNOW, THAT IS YOU KNOW THAT
[2:19:18] THAT WAS WHAT WE LOOKED AT IN
[2:19:19] THERE.
[2:19:20] THAT WAS ONE OF THE CONCLUSIONS
[2:19:21] OF THE REPORT IS THAT WE HAVE A
[2:19:23] REAL BIAS FOR THESE PRO
[2:19:24] CYCLICAL PROGRAMS WHICH WORK
[2:19:25] GREAT WHEN THE MARKET'S GOING
[2:19:27] DON'T WORK SO GREAT IN THE
[2:19:28] CURRENT MOMENT WE'RE IN.
[2:19:30] THANK YOU.
[2:19:31] THANK YOU COUNCILOR FLYNN.
[2:19:34] THANK YOU MR CHAIR.
[2:19:37] THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS FOR
[2:19:38] BEING HERE.
[2:19:41] UM MY QUESTION IS SIMILAR TO
[2:19:44] COUNCILOR MORALES QUESTIONING
[2:19:46] UM.
[2:19:49] THE CITY OF.
[2:19:50] BOSTON RECEIVED UH, SIGNIFICANT
[2:19:52] MONEY FROM ARPA FOR DOWN
[2:19:55] PAYMENT OF UM DOWN PAYMENT FOR
[2:20:00] UM, BUYING A HOME.
[2:20:03] UM, WHETHER IT WAS A GRANT OR
[2:20:05] WAS I WAS ALONE BUT.
[2:20:09] BUT IF WE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE
[2:20:12] GRANTS AND WE HAD LOANS AT A
[2:20:15] VERY VERY LOW INTEREST RATE,
[2:20:17] COULD THAT HELP THE MARKET?
[2:20:20] COULD THAT HELP THE ECONOMY
[2:20:23] WHERE WE'RE NOT GIVING
[2:20:25] SOMETHING NECESSARILY AWAY FREE
[2:20:28] TO PEOPLE BUT WE ARE GIVING
[2:20:30] THEM A HELPING HAND MAYBE WITH
[2:20:32] THE VERY, VERY LOW INTEREST
[2:20:34] RATE AND THAT MONEY THEN WOULD
[2:20:36] GO BACK INTO THE CITY'S ECONOMY
[2:20:39] OR INTO THE INTO THE SYSTEM
[2:20:41] WHERE WE CAN CONTINUE TO
[2:20:42] SUPPORT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:20:48] UM WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON
[2:20:49] THAT?
[2:20:51] UH.
[2:20:52] I WOULD SAY BASED ON CITY
[2:20:56] POLICY.
[2:20:57] SO LET'S SAY START UM UM.
[2:20:59] IF YOU GET UM UM.
[2:21:02] IF YOU HAVE CITY LAND AND CITY
[2:21:03] MONEY TO BUILD IT SO THE AMOUNT
[2:21:05] OF MONEY YOU PAY FOR A TWO
[2:21:07] BEDROOM I DON'T REMEMBER THE
[2:21:08] EXACT NUMBER BUT CLOSE ENOUGH.
[2:21:10] UM.
[2:21:10] A TWO BEDROOM IS 285,000.
[2:21:13] AND THEN THERE'S SO MUCH.
[2:21:15] EQUITY THAT PERSON CAN A OVER
[2:21:17] THE YEARS.
[2:21:18] SO BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE
[2:21:19] SURE THAT YOU DON'T GET LIKE AN
[2:21:21] AFFORDABLE UNIT
[2:21:22] OF HOMEOWNERSHIP AND THEN YOU
[2:21:23] GO IN AND WE SELL IT AT MARKET.
[2:21:26] SO UM.
[2:21:26] I THINK THAT'S A POLICY
[2:21:28] CONVERSATION.
[2:21:29] IT COULD BE POSSIBLE BUT IN.
[2:21:31] THIS CURRENT UH THE WAY THE
[2:21:34] POLICY.
[2:21:34] IS WRITTEN TODAY.
[2:21:36] UM WE HAVE TO RUN NUMBERS AND
[2:21:38] SEE IF IT'S VIABLE, YOU KNOW,
[2:21:41] SO BUT UH, I WOULD ASSUME IN
[2:21:43] AGE HAS A LOT OF UH.
[2:21:46] UM.
[2:21:47] GREAT STUFF THAT IF YOU WANT
[2:21:50] SOMETHING THAT'S.
[2:21:52] A VIABLE, UM, A THE.
[2:21:56] WE WILL PROPOSE IT ALREADY BUT
[2:21:57] I WOULD SAY THE GREEN PART WHAT
[2:21:59] MAKES SENSE BECAUSE YOU WANT TO
[2:22:01] MAKE SURE THAT LIKE, YOU.
[2:22:02] KNOW, UH, UM.
[2:22:03] IT COST YOU ALMOST 600 TO BE
[2:22:04] ABLE TO SELL IT FOR 285 SO
[2:22:07] THEREFORE THERE'S A GAP SO YOU
[2:22:08] HAVE TO MAKE UP FOR IT.
[2:22:10] SO 600 TO BUILD ONE UNIT.
[2:22:12] THAT'S LIKELY.
[2:22:15] I THINK I, I THINK UM.
[2:22:17] JUST TO.
[2:22:18] KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON WHAT HE
[2:22:19] SAID I.
[2:22:20] THINK UH.
[2:22:21] I THINK I'M ALWAYS.
[2:22:22] PROBABLY WOULD NEED TO LOOK AT
[2:22:24] THEIR POLICY.
[2:22:25] IN TERMS OF.
[2:22:25] HOW LONG.
[2:22:26] UH, THE DEED RESTRICTION IS IN
[2:22:28] SOME OF THESE HOMES BECAUSE.
[2:22:30] THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH.
[2:22:31] I THINK THIS IS WHAT HE'S
[2:22:32] PROBABLY SAYING IS BUT THERE'S
[2:22:33] ONLY SO MUCH EQUITY YOU COULD
[2:22:35] ACTUALLY BUILD INTO THESE
[2:22:36] HOMES.
[2:22:37] UH, RIGHT.
[2:22:37] UM, BASED ON THE CURRENT
[2:22:40] POLICIES.
[2:22:40] UM, SO IF YOU ARE IF YOU ARE
[2:22:43] INTRODUCING UH A VERY LOW
[2:22:45] INTEREST LOAN WHERE A PROPERTY
[2:22:47] ALREADY HAS A DEED RESTRICTION
[2:22:49] WHERE YOU REALLY ARE NOT AS A
[2:22:50] NEW HOMEOWNER YOU'RE NOT
[2:22:51] BUILDING ANY EQUITY INTO THAT
[2:22:54] HOME.
[2:22:54] I THINK IT'S IT'S.
[2:22:55] WORTH LOOKING AT UM, THESE TWO
[2:22:58] THINGS, UM, JOINTLY TO FIGURE
[2:23:01] OUT.
[2:23:02] OKAY.
[2:23:02] HEY.
[2:23:02] DO WE IS THERE.
[2:23:03] AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO ACTUALLY
[2:23:06] ACTUALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER
[2:23:07] OF YEARS ON THE DEED
[2:23:09] RESTRICTION SO THAT NEW HOME
[2:23:11] BUYER IS PAYING IS PAYING
[2:23:13] INTEREST ON THAT LOAN BUT ALSO
[2:23:14] HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM,
[2:23:16] SELL THAT HOME UH, MUCH EARLIER
[2:23:20] UM TIME FRAME WITH THAT
[2:23:21] RESTRICTION OKAY.
[2:23:26] STEVE, UH.
[2:23:27] YOU KNOW, I WOULD JUST SAY
[2:23:28] GENERALLY UM YOU'VE YOU'VE
[2:23:30] ASKED A LOT TO ME A VERY
[2:23:31] INTERESTING QUESTION.
[2:23:32] I DON'T HAVE A PAT YES OR NO
[2:23:34] ANSWER UH, TO GIVE TO YOU I
[2:23:36] THINK YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD WANT
[2:23:38] TO THINK CAREFULLY ABOUT A
[2:23:39] COUPLE OF THINGS.
[2:23:40] THE DEED RESTRICTION OBVIOUSLY
[2:23:41] IS KEY.
[2:23:42] WOULDN'T WANT PEOPLE UTILIZING
[2:23:44] A SUBSIDIZED SOURCE OF FUNDING
[2:23:46] IN A IN A WAY THAT THE INTENT
[2:23:49] HERE IS TO HOUSE PEOPLE, NOT TO
[2:23:50] ALLOW THEM TO SPECULATE ON REAL
[2:23:53] ESTATE AND THAT BALANCE WOULD
[2:23:54] BE IMPORTANT.
[2:23:56] UM MORAL HAZARD ARE WE ARE WE
[2:23:58] LENDING TO YOU KNOW WE LENDING
[2:23:59] TO IT TO PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO ARE
[2:24:02] GOING TO BE ABLE TO PAY PAY THE
[2:24:04] LOAN BACK AND WHO MAKES WHO
[2:24:06] MAKES THAT DECISION AND MANAGES
[2:24:07] IT.
[2:24:08] UH, SO YOU KNOW, I THINK
[2:24:09] THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME
[2:24:10] IMPORTANT QUESTIONS BUT I THINK
[2:24:11] IT'S A YOU KNOW, IT'S AN
[2:24:14] INTERESTING IDEA AND ONE THAT I
[2:24:15] WILL UH WE'LL GIVE SOME THOUGHT
[2:24:16] TO.
[2:24:17] OKAY.
[2:24:19] UM.
[2:24:23] LET ME LET ME ASK ONE ONE
[2:24:25] FINAL QUESTION AND MAYBE
[2:24:27] WHOEVER WHOEVER WANTS TO ANSWER
[2:24:28] IT BUT WITH RESIDENTIAL
[2:24:33] PROPERTY TAXES UP SIGNIFICANTLY
[2:24:36] OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS,
[2:24:39] DOES THAT HAVE AN IMPACT ON
[2:24:42] BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING,
[2:24:45] BUILDING HOUSING IN BOSTON AT
[2:24:49] ALL?
[2:24:52] TO YOU.
[2:24:53] GUYS YOU GUYS BUILD BUT I
[2:24:55] DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PATTY I
[2:24:56] DON'T HAVE A READY ANSWER YOU.
[2:24:58] GUYS BUILD SO I'LL DEFER TO
[2:24:59] YOU.
[2:25:00] YEAH SO I.
[2:25:01] BUILD I BOUGHT UH THE
[2:25:03] PREDOMINATELY PREDOMINANTLY
[2:25:04] NUMBER OF PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN
[2:25:06] BUILDING ARE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:25:08] PROJECTS I WOULD SAY NO.
[2:25:09] UM IT DOESN'T HAVE AN IMPACT.
[2:25:11] IT DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE IMPACT
[2:25:13] ON US.
[2:25:13] UM, BUT THEN AGAIN, IF YOU'RE
[2:25:14] DOING A LIGHT TECH DEAL OR UM,
[2:25:17] RENTAL DEAL UM, NOT THAT I'M
[2:25:19] NOT QUITE SURE UM, WHAT THAT
[2:25:21] IMPACT MIGHT BE.
[2:25:22] WELL THEN SO IF SOMEONE WAS TO
[2:25:27] RECEIVE A HOME FOR UH FOR
[2:25:30] WHATEVER WHATEVER WAY UM, TO
[2:25:33] THE CITY MAYBE THEY BOUGHT IT
[2:25:35] FOR $300,000.
[2:25:39] AND THEIR PROPERTY TAXES HAVE
[2:25:40] GONE UP, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY OVER
[2:25:43] THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.
[2:25:45] IS THAT A IS THAT A CONCERN?
[2:25:47] WELL, YOU MIGHT NOT YOU MIGHT
[2:25:51] BE PUTTING THAT FAMILY IN A
[2:25:54] PARTICULAR CHALLENGE AND SPOT
[2:25:57] TO PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES.
[2:25:59] NO.
[2:26:00] MAYBE THEIR SALARY IS 70
[2:26:02] $80,000 BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE
[2:26:04] TO GET A LOAN OR ASSISTANCE
[2:26:06] BECAUSE OF THAT.
[2:26:07] IS THAT IS THAT SOMETHING
[2:26:09] THAT'S A CHALLENGE.
[2:26:11] POTENTIALLY YEAH I WOULD SAY UM
[2:26:14] IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CHIME IN
[2:26:15] YEAH POTENTIALLY YEAH I THINK
[2:26:17] THAT'S SOMETHING THAT UM ONE
[2:26:19] THAT FAMILY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE
[2:26:21] TO RUN THE NUMBERS AND US UM
[2:26:24] CITY AND YOU GUYS PROBABLY
[2:26:27] WOULD HAVE TO RUN THE NUMBERS
[2:26:28] IN TERMS OF UH $300,000.
[2:26:30] UM, HOW MUCH IS THAT INDIVIDUAL
[2:26:32] PAIN AND PROPERTY TAXES AND
[2:26:34] ALSO FACTOR IN THE COST
[2:26:36] OF LIVING UM, THAT HAS
[2:26:39] SIGNIFICANTLY GONE UP AS WELL
[2:26:40] AND SEEING OKAY IS IT A FAMILY
[2:26:43] MAKE AN X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS,
[2:26:44] DOES THAT ACTUALLY MAP OUT TO
[2:26:48] UH TO ACTUALLY AFFORD THAT?
[2:26:49] YEAH THE GOAL IS TO KEEP THAT
[2:26:52] FAMILY IN THAT HOUSE OR AS LONG
[2:26:54] AS POSSIBLE.
[2:26:56] UM YEAH.
[2:26:57] UH I CANNOT REALLY ANSWER
[2:26:59] BECAUSE I BUILT MULTIFAMILY SO
[2:27:01] LIKE YOU KNOW, AS PART
[2:27:02] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE
[2:27:03] NEGOTIATE.
[2:27:04] UH A.
[2:27:05] TAX.
[2:27:06] UH UM ON TAXES WITH THE CITY
[2:27:10] FOR LIKE.
[2:27:10] YOU KNOW, FOR 15.
[2:27:11] YEARS FOR 30 YEARS.
[2:27:12] SO SO LIKE YOU KNOW.
[2:27:14] I DON'T THINK I HAVE.
[2:27:15] A GOOD HANDLE ON THAT IN
[2:27:16] CERTAIN.
[2:27:17] I MEAN, I WOULD SAY I WOULD SAY
[2:27:19] GENERALLY OBVIOUSLY WHEN
[2:27:20] TAXATION LEVELS GOES UP THAT
[2:27:22] CHALLENGES FOLKS UM.
[2:27:24] WHO WHO.
[2:27:25] HAVE HAVE LIMITED INCOME AND AS
[2:27:27] A RESIDENTIAL TAXPAYER MYSELF I
[2:27:29] FEEL THAT WHEN THE WHEN WHEN
[2:27:30] THE COST GOES UP UM YOU KNOW, I
[2:27:33] WOULD SAY THE CITY HAS PROGRAMS
[2:27:35] IN PLACE, THE RESIDENTIAL
[2:27:36] EXEMPTION WOULD BE YOU KNOW,
[2:27:37] WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE THAT
[2:27:39] COMES TO MIND TO PROVIDE SOME
[2:27:41] LEVEL OF OF RELIEF TO TO
[2:27:44] INDIVIDUALS IN THE SCENARIO
[2:27:46] THAT YOU PUT FORWARD.
[2:27:48] SO I THINK YOU KNOW, I, I THINK
[2:27:50] THAT'S A THAT'S A YOU KNOW
[2:27:52] THAT'S PROBABLY THE BEST ANSWER
[2:27:54] I CAN GIVE I DO I DO YOU KNOW,
[2:27:56] I FULLY AGREE AND EXPERIENCE IT
[2:27:58] PERSONALLY THAT IT IS
[2:27:59] CHALLENGING WHEN UH WHEN WHEN
[2:28:01] COSTS GO UP LIKE THAT.
[2:28:03] THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY
[2:28:04] QUESTIONS, MR CHAIR.
[2:28:05] UM, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME AN
[2:28:07] EXTRA MINUTE.
[2:28:07] THANK YOU.
[2:28:08] UM, COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE.
[2:28:10] THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR CHAIR,
[2:28:11] AND THANK YOU TO THIS, UM,
[2:28:13] ESTEEMED PANEL FOR BEING HERE.
[2:28:15] UM, AND FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
[2:28:16] I GUESS I'LL START UH, WITH I
[2:28:18] GUESS A QUESTION FOR YOU,
[2:28:18] STEVE.
[2:28:19] I THINK YOU IT YOU UM THAT IS A
[2:28:23] QUESTION THAT I ASKED UH,
[2:28:24] DIRECTOR BROWN ON THE LAST
[2:28:26] PANEL BUT IT WAS ABOUT
[2:28:27] CAMBRIDGE AND I BELIEVE HOW
[2:28:28] CAMBRIDGE ALLOCATES 80%
[2:28:30] OF THEIR CPA FUNDING TOWARDS
[2:28:33] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:28:34] YES.
[2:28:35] AND HAVE THEY BEEN DOING
[2:28:36] THAT SINCE THE INCEPTION
[2:28:38] OF THEIR CPA?
[2:28:40] I DON'T KNOW THAT I'VE
[2:28:40] THOUGHT IN MY HEAD BUT I'M
[2:28:41] HAPPY TO UH I'M HAPPY TO TRACK
[2:28:43] THAT DOWN.
[2:28:43] THAT'S WHY I ASKED ABOUT THE
[2:28:44] DATE BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT I
[2:28:46] THINK I MEAN IT WAS A LEADING
[2:28:48] QUESTION BUT I THINK THE ANSWER
[2:28:49] IS YES.
[2:28:50] OKAY.
[2:28:50] AND I THINK THAT IT'S I THINK
[2:28:51] THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO TO
[2:28:53] KNOW BECAUSE LIKE WE'RE SAYING
[2:28:56] IN MANY ITERATIONS RIGHT ONCE
[2:28:57] COMMUNITY IS LIKE THEY KNOW
[2:28:59] WHAT THIS IS WHAT IT IS.
[2:29:01] UM AND WE JUST DID FROM THE
[2:29:02] BEGINNING AND THIS IS ONE IT'S
[2:29:03] BEEN FROM THE BEGINNING AND
[2:29:03] TWEAKING THAT TO REDUCE WHAT
[2:29:06] OTHER GROUPS WHAT OTHER CAUSES
[2:29:08] ESPECIALLY WHEN I BELIEVE
[2:29:10] PEOPLE SEE THEMSELVES IN DEEP
[2:29:12] COALITION WITH EACH OTHER AND
[2:29:13] NOT SORT OF COMPETING WITH ONE
[2:29:14] ANOTHER FROM THE OUTSET SORT
[2:29:16] OF THE.
[2:29:18] UH THE TRADE OFFS IN SORT
[2:29:20] OF MAKING CHANGES I SEE LIKE IN
[2:29:22] THE FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
[2:29:23] THOSE WHO HAVE HAD AND I DON'T
[2:29:24] KNOW IF THEY'RE OTHER CITIES
[2:29:25] AND IF YOU DO KNOW PLEASE LET
[2:29:26] ME KNOW OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE
[2:29:28] HIGHER ALLOCATIONS THAN 50% UM
[2:29:31] AND WHETHER THEY'D HAVE THAT.
[2:29:32] SO I THINK THAT'S JUST LIKE A
[2:29:33] GOOD IT'S A BOTH LIKE A POLICY
[2:29:35] AND A POLITICS THING TO
[2:29:36] CONSIDER AS WELL.
[2:29:38] UM I ALSO WANT TO UPLIFT WHAT
[2:29:40] HILLARY STATED IN TERMS OF YOU
[2:29:43] KNOW, THIS IS AN IMPORTANT
[2:29:45] CONVERSATION AND AND I THINK
[2:29:47] SOMEONE SAID IT PRIOR LIKE LIKE
[2:29:50] WE ARE SEARCHING HIGH AND LOW
[2:29:52] FOR MORE FUNDING AND SO
[2:29:56] FRUSTRATIONS OF NOT BEING ABLE
[2:29:57] TO GET THAT MORE FUNDING THEN
[2:29:59] LEADS US TO LIKE HOW CAN WE
[2:30:00] TRANSLATE THIS PIE WHEN WE WANT
[2:30:03] A BIGGER PIE?
[2:30:04] AND THERE HAVE BEEN MECHANISMS
[2:30:06] FOR US TO GET THAT BIGGER PIE
[2:30:08] WITH THE TRANSFER FEE LED HERE
[2:30:11] BY COUNCILOR FORMER
[2:30:12] COUNCILOR JANEY, FORMER
[2:30:13] COUNCILOR EDWARDS FROM A
[2:30:14] COUNCIL ROOM AND WE'VE BEEN SO
[2:30:16] CLOSE AT CERTAIN POINTS AND
[2:30:17] THEN IT'S BEEN YANKED AWAY OUR
[2:30:19] ABILITY TO AND NOT JUST FOR THE
[2:30:21] CITY OF BOSTON FOR OTHER CITIES
[2:30:24] ACROSS THE RIGHT AND EVEN IF
[2:30:26] WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE
[2:30:27] SHIFTS HERE COMPARATIVELY TO
[2:30:28] WHAT THE TRANSFER FEE COULD DO
[2:30:29] FOR THE CITY, WE'RE TALKING
[2:30:30] ABOUT SHIFTS THAT WOULD BE LIKE
[2:30:32] RELATIVELY MAYBE A FEW MILLION
[2:30:34] DOLLARS MORE.
[2:30:35] BUT WHEN WE COULD GET FROM THE
[2:30:36] TRANSFER FEE A MINIMUM OF $50
[2:30:39] MILLION FROM WHAT THE RESEARCH
[2:30:40] HAS SHOWN UP TO A HUNDRED
[2:30:41] MILLION A YEAR IN AFFORDABLE
[2:30:42] HOUSING, WHICH WOULD BE
[2:30:43] TRANSFORMATIVE, WHICH WOULD DO
[2:30:45] THE WORK OF I THINK I HEARD YOU
[2:30:47] DONALD ALEXIS AND I KNOW I'VE
[2:30:48] BEEN AT MEETINGS WITH YOU WHERE
[2:30:50] PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE AM EYES
[2:30:51] AND LIKE WHO WOULD DO THIS THAT
[2:30:53] SERVE WE NEED DEEPER ALLIES AND
[2:30:56] YOU DO THAT WITH MORE FUNDING
[2:30:57] AND MORE MONEY.
[2:30:58] SO I MEAN I'D LOVE US TO SEE US
[2:31:01] THINK ABOUT LIKE IN THESE
[2:31:03] MOMENTS AND ESPECIALLY IN THE
[2:31:04] NIGHT AND ESPECIALLY IN THESE
[2:31:05] MOMENTS OF FEDERAL CHALLENGE,
[2:31:06] WHAT ARE THE IDEAS AROUND
[2:31:09] GENERATING MORE REVENUE TO DO
[2:31:10] THIS WORK?
[2:31:11] UM, THIS I MEAN TRANSFER FEE
[2:31:13] WAS PART OF THE CONVERSATION
[2:31:14] BEFORE COVID DURING COVID AND
[2:31:16] CONTINUES AFTERWARDS AND MANY
[2:31:17] MUNICIPALITIES HAVE BEEN
[2:31:18] ADVANCING EITHER THEIR OWN
[2:31:20] LEGISLATION OR UM, A STATEWIDE
[2:31:22] BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A
[2:31:23] LOCAL OPTION.
[2:31:24] SO I JUST DON'T WANT US TO LOSE
[2:31:25] SIGHT OF THE FOREST FOR THE
[2:31:27] TREE WHATEVER THAT THING IS.
[2:31:28] I'M NOT GOOD AT THEM BUT LIKE
[2:31:30] WE NEED BIGGER PIES.
[2:31:32] UM, AND YOU KNOW, FRANK O'BRIEN
[2:31:33] MENTIONED AND WE'RE STILL DOING
[2:31:35] SOME WORK BUT THE
[2:31:35] ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN SOME
[2:31:37] OF THAT ABOUT SORT OF ARE WE
[2:31:39] MAXIMIZING OUR BORROWING
[2:31:40] CAPACITY AND THERE'S MORE WORK
[2:31:41] THAT WE NEED TO DO THERE.
[2:31:42] BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT SORT
[2:31:43] OF HOW THEY'RE UM.
[2:31:46] YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING IN
[2:31:47] TERMS OF DEBT SERVICE AND HOW
[2:31:49] WE'RE PAYING THINGS BACK, I
[2:31:50] THINK IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT
[2:31:51] THAT WE NEED TO BE UM WE NEED
[2:31:54] TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ARE
[2:31:55] SPENDING THE MONEY THAT WE
[2:31:56] HAVE, UM, WHILE NOT GIVING UP
[2:31:58] ON HOW WE CREATE NEW PATHS
[2:31:59] OF REVENUE.
[2:32:00] SORRY I'M NOT I JUST WANTED TO
[2:32:01] PUT THAT OUT THERE BECAUSE I
[2:32:02] THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT
[2:32:03] LIKE WE ARE AT THE END OF THE
[2:32:05] DAY HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT
[2:32:07] LIKE HOW ARE WE INCREASING THE
[2:32:08] REVENUE THAT WE'RE GETTING IN
[2:32:09] AND THERE ARE OPTIONS THAT ARE
[2:32:10] ON THE TABLE IN WAYS I THINK WE
[2:32:11] JUST WE NEED TO BE THOUGHTFUL
[2:32:12] ABOUT HOW WE ADVOCATE FOR
[2:32:13] WHAT'S POSSIBLE.
[2:32:14] UM, I, I GUESS I HAVE UH, A
[2:32:19] QUESTION FOR ADLER AND DONALD.
[2:32:22] UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS
[2:32:23] INTERESTING FROM THE FORMER
[2:32:25] PANEL I DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW
[2:32:26] IF IT FROM SOME OF THE ADVOCACY
[2:32:27] WAS LIKE FOR PARKS AND FOR OPEN
[2:32:30] FOR OPEN SPACE AND FOR HISTORIC
[2:32:32] PRESERVATION.
[2:32:32] THERE ARE ONLY THESE CERTAIN
[2:32:33] POTS OF MONEY THAT THEY CAN GET
[2:32:36] MONEY FROM UM, WHICH I BELIEVE
[2:32:38] IS TRUE BECAUSE THERE'S
[2:32:39] PROBABLY NOT THE SAME LEVEL
[2:32:40] OF SPONSORSHIP, THAT SAME LEVEL
[2:32:42] OF UM.
[2:32:44] UM APPLICATIONS TO SUPPORT
[2:32:46] THEIR WORK WHEREAS LIKE THERE
[2:32:47] ARE EVEN THOUGH LIKE SOME
[2:32:49] OF THE MONEY HAS DRIED UP THERE
[2:32:50] ARE MORE SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR
[2:32:53] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[2:32:55] UM AND JUST WANTED TO SORT
[2:32:57] OF GET YOUR TAKE ON THAT
[2:32:58] ARGUMENT THAT YOU KNOW, YOU
[2:32:59] HAVE YOU COULD HAVE LIKE TAC
[2:33:01] YOU COULD HAVE UM YOU HAVE CPA
[2:33:04] I MEAN THERE ARE THERE ARE
[2:33:05] OTHER FORMS OF OF TAX
[2:33:08] INCENTIVES FOR AFFORDABLE
[2:33:09] HOUSING.
[2:33:10] SO I MEAN MAYBE IT LOOKS
[2:33:11] DIFFERENT NOW I KNOW THAT THERE
[2:33:13] ARE THERE ARE PROGRAMS THAT
[2:33:14] HAVE ENDED BUT THERE ARE JUST
[2:33:15] MORE SOURCES OF FUNDING
[2:33:16] COMPARED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE
[2:33:17] TRYING TO DO WORK IN OPEN SPACE
[2:33:20] OR IN HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[2:33:23] UM, I THANK YOU FOR THE
[2:33:24] QUESTION UM A CONCLUSION SO
[2:33:26] WHAT I WOULD SAY YES MIGHT BE
[2:33:29] MORE SOURCES FOR UH FOR FOR
[2:33:31] AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT ALSO
[2:33:33] IT'S UH BEEN IN THE CITY OF UM
[2:33:36] BEEN IN MASSACHUSETTS, THE CITY
[2:33:39] OF BOSTON IT IS A VERY
[2:33:41] EXPENSIVE PLACE TO BUILD.
[2:33:42] YEAH.
[2:33:43] YOU KNOW.
[2:33:43] IN TERMS OF UM, OUTSIDE FACTORS
[2:33:47] THAT WE DON'T CONTROL LIKE
[2:33:48] CONSTRUCTION COST IS VERY
[2:33:49] EXPENSIVE LAND COSTS, YOU KNOW,
[2:33:50] BORROWING COSTS AND UH, ALL
[2:33:55] THOSE MAKE IT EXTREMELY
[2:33:57] DIFFICULT FOR A DEVELOPER LIKE,
[2:33:58] YOU KNOW, UH UM.
[2:34:01] I DO I AGREE LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF
[2:34:03] I'M DOING A PARK THERE'S ONLY
[2:34:04] ONE SOURCES THEN I HAVE MORE
[2:34:07] WAYS TO USE WHAT I HAVE.
[2:34:09] YEAH.
[2:34:10] YOU KNOW, BUT IN THE CITY
[2:34:11] OF BOSTON THE CITY OF BOSTON
[2:34:12] HAS THEIR OWN A ZONING
[2:34:14] REGULATION WITH SUSTAINABILITY
[2:34:16] .
[2:34:16] AND THEN WHEN YOU GO TO THE
[2:34:17] STATE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN
[2:34:18] REGULATION.
[2:34:18] SO WE FACING MORE.
[2:34:21] YEAH THAT'S THAT SORT OF WASN'T
[2:34:22] EVEN A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE I
[2:34:24] KNOW THAT THE ANSWER IS YES.
[2:34:25] YOU ALL HAVE MULTIPLE SOURCES
[2:34:26] BUT IT'S A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE
[2:34:27] AND IT'S A LOT HARDER AND THE
[2:34:29] MONEY IS DRYING UP.
[2:34:30] SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT
[2:34:31] SORT OF WHAT I THINK I THINK
[2:34:33] WAS A RELEVANT POINT THAT FOLKS
[2:34:34] ARE MAKING THAT THEY HAVE FEWER
[2:34:35] SOURCES.
[2:34:36] UM, YOU HAVE MORE SOURCES BUT
[2:34:39] IT'S CYCLICAL AND FUNDING IS
[2:34:41] NEVER CERTAIN AND YOUR PROJECTS
[2:34:43] ARE A.
[2:34:43] LOT MORE EXPENSIVE.
[2:34:44] ABSOLUTELY.
[2:34:45] YEAH.
[2:34:46] UM I THINK UM KIND OF HIT THE
[2:34:48] NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD IN TERMS
[2:34:50] OF UH YOU STARTED YOUR FRAMING
[2:34:51] YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF DEEP
[2:34:54] AFFORDABILITY, HOW DO YOU
[2:34:55] ACHIEVE AFFORDABILITY WHEN COST
[2:34:59] TO BUILD IS UP HERE?
[2:35:00] RIGHT.
[2:35:01] YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO FILL
[2:35:02] THE GAP WITH SUBSIDIES.
[2:35:04] THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO BE ABLE
[2:35:06] TO GIVE FAMILIES WHO NEED IT
[2:35:08] THE MOST YOU OPPORTUNITY TO OWN
[2:35:10] .
[2:35:10] OWN A HOME.
[2:35:11] UM AND THAT'S IN THE SUBSIDY
[2:35:13] BRIDGES THAT GAP YEAH.
[2:35:15] SO PLUS OPERATING COSTS ALSO
[2:35:17] LIKE OPENING COSTS WE DON'T
[2:35:18] EVEN TALK ABOUT IT YOU KNOW
[2:35:19] LIKE UH IT'S IT'S COSTING
[2:35:21] ALMOST 13,000 A YEAR TO UH TO
[2:35:26] RUN YOUR UNIT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN
[2:35:27] SO IT MIGHT BE TO UM TO 11 TO
[2:35:30] 13 BUT I DON'T WANT TO PUT THEM
[2:35:31] ON BROADWAY TO GET PEOPLE TO
[2:35:32] QUESTION IT.
[2:35:33] BUT IT IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE
[2:35:34] LIKE TO RUN YOUR UM YEAH A TO
[2:35:36] ONE EVERY UNIT.
[2:35:37] SO YOU CAN'T MAKE TWO VERY
[2:35:39] SMALL LIKE ONE IS A ONE IS LIKE
[2:35:41] I THINK ADLER OR SOMEONE UH
[2:35:43] SOMEONE UPLOAD I THINK IT WAS
[2:35:44] HILLARY AS WELL.
[2:35:45] WELCOME HOME BOSTON FANTASTIC
[2:35:47] FANTASTIC AT BUILDING ALSO A
[2:35:49] PIPELINE OF DEVELOPERS OF COLOR
[2:35:50] WHO GET THESE CONTRACTS AND
[2:35:52] THEY'VE BEEN ABLE TO BUILD UP
[2:35:53] TO BIGGER CONTRACTS AND
[2:35:54] BUILDING BIGGER UNITS.
[2:35:55] SO I THINK IT'S AWESOME AND I
[2:35:57] DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
[2:35:58] HAVE MONEY GOING INTO THAT
[2:35:59] AGAIN TRANSFER FEE AND OTHER
[2:36:00] MECHANISMS I THINK ARE
[2:36:01] IMPORTANT.
[2:36:02] UM AND THEN WHERE DOES FOR FOR
[2:36:05] DONALD AND FOR ADLER WHERE DOES
[2:36:07] EPA RANK IN TERMS OF YOUR LIKE
[2:36:10] DEPENDENCY ON FUNDING FOR
[2:36:13] PROJECT LIKE IS IT THE FIRST
[2:36:14] PLACE I MEAN I KNOW IT'S I
[2:36:16] CAN'T BE THE FIRST PLACE THAT
[2:36:17] YOU GO BUT LIKE IS AND IS IT
[2:36:18] EVER BUT FOR HAVE YOU EVER NOT
[2:36:20] BEEN ABLE TO DO A PROJECT
[2:36:21] BECAUSE OF CPA FUNDING LIKE I'M
[2:36:23] JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SORT
[2:36:24] OF LIKE THE PRIORITY AND AND I
[2:36:26] KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO SAY
[2:36:27] OH IT'S DIRE WE NEED IT.
[2:36:28] BUT LIKE I'M JUST TRYING TO
[2:36:30] UNDERSTAND SORT OF WHERE IT
[2:36:32] STANDS FOR YOU AND YOUR THE
[2:36:33] ALPHABET SOUP OF FINANCING THAT
[2:36:35] PUTS TOGETHER YOUR AFFORDABLE
[2:36:36] HOUSING PROJECT LIKE WHERE IS
[2:36:38] CPA IN TERMS OF YOUR
[2:36:39] DEPENDENCIES LIKE SOMEWHERE IN
[2:36:41] THE MIDDLE IS IT LIKE HIGHER UP
[2:36:42] IS IT TOWARDS YOU KNOW.
[2:36:43] I WOULD SAY IT FOR ME IT'S
[2:36:44] HIGH UP.
[2:36:46] SO AGAIN.
[2:36:47] WE.
[2:36:47] BUILD UM HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:36:48] PROJECTS WHICH IS AT THE CORE
[2:36:50] OF OUR MISSION AND GIVING
[2:36:51] PEOPLE OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD
[2:36:54] EQUITY.
[2:36:54] AND TO DEAN KIND.
[2:36:56] OF.
[2:36:57] UM MENTIONED IT IN HER
[2:36:58] PRESENTATION WHERE UM, EMMA H
[2:37:02] RELIES ON UM SHE REALLOCATE
[2:37:05] CERTAIN FUNDS TO M0 H TO THEN
[2:37:07] DISTRIBUTE FOR THESE
[2:37:09] HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS.
[2:37:10] SO IT'S IT'S A BIG DEAL.
[2:37:11] YEAH IT'S A BIG DEAL FOR US
[2:37:12] ESPECIALLY NOW AGAIN I
[2:37:14] MENTIONED THAT MASS HOUSING
[2:37:16] FUNDS COMMONWEALTH BUILDER
[2:37:18] FARMS OR HAVE DRIED UP NOW IT'S
[2:37:20] EVEN HARDER RIGHT SO IF IF I'M
[2:37:24] A SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE
[2:37:25] SUBSIDIES TO PROVIDE FOR A DEEP
[2:37:27] AFFORDABILITY OF 80 TO 100% AM
[2:37:30] I UH RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A
[2:37:31] PROJECT THAT WE'RE BUILDING
[2:37:32] WITH UM EMMA WHICH WE'RE DOING
[2:37:36] 135% IN AM I, UM, WITHOUT THEM
[2:37:38] PROVIDING ANY SUBSIDIES.
[2:37:39] BUT NOW.
[2:37:42] FOR A FAMILY THAT CANNOT FIT IN
[2:37:45] THOSE THAT 135 OF 150% AM I
[2:37:49] THAT REALLY IS IN THE 60% AMI
[2:37:52] NOW THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING LEFT
[2:37:54] OUT OF THAT OPPORTUNITY TO OWN
[2:37:56] THEIR OWN.
[2:37:57] UM SO IT'S A BIG DEAL.
[2:38:00] THANK YOU.
[2:38:03] OF COURSE.
[2:38:03] THANK YOU.
[2:38:07] UH, I'LL GIVE MYSELF SOME TIME.
[2:38:09] UM, WANTED TO ASK ASK YOU ABOUT
[2:38:13] SOMETHING THAT
[2:38:13] COUNCIL LOUIJEUNE BROUGHT UP
[2:38:14] WHICH WAS THIS THE CITY'S KPIS
[2:38:17] POSSIBILITY ABOUT THE BORROWING
[2:38:19] POWER THAT WE MAY HAVE.
[2:38:21] UM, STEVE, YOU I THINK YOU
[2:38:23] ALLUDED IT AT THE BEGINNING
[2:38:24] OF YOUR OF YOUR SPEAKING BUT
[2:38:26] WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE?
[2:38:27] HOW DOES THAT WORK?
[2:38:28] I'M ACTUALLY NOT TOO FAMILIAR
[2:38:29] WITH WITH THAT.
[2:38:30] DO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO
[2:38:32] THAT.
[2:38:32] I'M NOT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH
[2:38:35] ANY OTHER MUNICIPALITY THAT.
[2:38:36] DOES UM I THINK YOU KNOW
[2:38:39] THERE'S AN IMPLICATION THAT
[2:38:40] COMES UP OBVIOUSLY IF YOU COULD
[2:38:42] BORROW AGAINST THAT STREAM
[2:38:44] OF INCOME AND I'M SPEAKING VERY
[2:38:45] HYPOTHETICALLY, UM, THERE
[2:38:47] BECOMES A TIMING ISSUE, RIGHT?
[2:38:48] THAT SORT OF THE DECISIONS IF
[2:38:50] ONE BORROWS AGAINST THE STREAM
[2:38:52] OF INCOME OVER SOME PERIOD
[2:38:54] OF YEARS.
[2:38:55] SORT OF.
[2:38:56] THIS COUNCIL AT THIS MOMENT
[2:38:57] IN TIME OR THE CPC AT THAT
[2:38:59] MOMENT IN TIME IS MAKING THE
[2:39:01] INVESTMENT DECISIONS AND
[2:39:01] THEY'RE POTENTIALLY VERY LARGE
[2:39:04] DECISIONS.
[2:39:04] IS THAT FROM A POLICY
[2:39:06] PERSPECTIVE IS THAT THE OUTCOME
[2:39:07] YOU WANT?
[2:39:08] IS THAT MORE EQUITABLE THAN
[2:39:10] HAVING SORT OF DECISIONS THAT
[2:39:12] ARE MADE EVERY YEAR AS THE CPC
[2:39:14] AND THE COUNCIL AND THE CITY
[2:39:17] BODY POLITIC EVOLVES OVER TIME,
[2:39:19] IS IT BETTER TO SORT OF LET
[2:39:21] EVERYONE MAKE A SERIES
[2:39:23] OF SMALLER DECISIONS OR TO HAVE
[2:39:25] THE DECISIONS MADE ALL AT ONCE
[2:39:26] ?
[2:39:27] I THINK YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T
[2:39:30] HAVE A ONE IS BETTER THAN THE
[2:39:31] OTHER ANSWER.
[2:39:32] I THINK IN SOME CASES, YOU
[2:39:33] KNOW, IN SOME CERTAIN POLICY
[2:39:36] AREAS I THINK I WOULD THINK
[2:39:38] MORE DEEPLY I KNOW THE BOSTON
[2:39:40] SCHOOL BUILDING AUTHORITY IS
[2:39:41] GOING TO COME UP LATER UH,
[2:39:43] LATER IN THE CALENDAR.
[2:39:44] YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S ONE
[2:39:45] WHERE YOU I THINK A LITTLE BIT
[2:39:47] DIFFERENTLY ABOUT SORT
[2:39:49] OF MAKING A LARGE SERIES
[2:39:51] OF DECISIONS AND INVESTMENTS
[2:39:53] WHEREAS YOU KNOW, I THINK WITH
[2:39:55] THE WITH THE CPA AT FIRST BLUSH
[2:39:58] I'M I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE THAT'S
[2:40:00] THE WAY TO GO BUT I THINK
[2:40:01] THAT'S AGAIN THAT'S A POLICY
[2:40:02] DISCUSSION.
[2:40:03] GOTCHA I APPRECIATE THAT I
[2:40:05] THINK AND JUST WORTH LOOKING
[2:40:07] INTO UM AS WE ARE TRYING TO SEE
[2:40:10] HOW DO WE INCREASE FUNDING FOR
[2:40:12] EVERYTHING ON THE CITY HONESTLY
[2:40:14] UM QUESTION FOR DONALD IN UM
[2:40:18] I'M SO SORRY ON THE UM ADLER.
[2:40:22] ADLER.
[2:40:23] YES.
[2:40:23] SORRY.
[2:40:23] IT'S BEEN A LONG IT'S BEEN A
[2:40:24] LONG MORNING.
[2:40:25] UM, WHEN IT COMES TO GRANTS AND
[2:40:28] APPLYING FOR GRANTS, OBVIOUSLY
[2:40:29] THE CPA IS ONE OF THEM THAT YOU
[2:40:32] HEAVILY RELY ON.
[2:40:34] BUT I'M CURIOUS, UM, HOW MANY
[2:40:36] OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ARE ARE OUT
[2:40:37] THERE?
[2:40:38] UM, ESPECIALLY IF WITH STATE
[2:40:41] GRANTS HOW COMPLICATED IS IT?
[2:40:43] JUST WANT TO GET THE
[2:40:44] PERSPECTIVE I DON'T THINK
[2:40:45] OF YOU KNOW, TO ASK YOU TO
[2:40:46] ABOUT THIS BEFORE.
[2:40:47] HOW COMPLICATED IS IT TO GET
[2:40:49] THOSE GRANTS?
[2:40:51] UM DO YOU WANT TO START.
[2:40:52] DOING THERE?
[2:40:54] WELL.
[2:40:54] .
[2:40:55] UH UM.
[2:40:57] IT IS FOR US LIKE OUR FIRST
[2:40:59] APPLICATION FOR FUNDING GO TO
[2:41:00] OUR MORTGAGE.
[2:41:01] THIS IS WHERE YOU GET, UH,
[2:41:03] NEIGHBORHOOD HOUSING TRUST
[2:41:04] FUND.
[2:41:05] YOU GOT, UH, CPA AND YOU HAVE,
[2:41:08] UH, INCLUSION ZONING FUNDS.
[2:41:10] ALL THOSE ARE YOU PUT ONE.
[2:41:11] APPLICATION UM, IT IS IN IT IS
[2:41:15] QUITE A BIT OF WORK, YOU KNOW,
[2:41:16] TO PUT THE APPLICATION IN AND
[2:41:18] THEN IF YOU GET FUNDED FOR ALL
[2:41:20] LIGHT TECH DEALS THEN YOU GO TO
[2:41:24] UM EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF HOT
[2:41:27] EXECUTIVE OFFICE HOUSING
[2:41:28] LIVABLE COMMUNITIES HLC YOU GO
[2:41:30] THERE ALSO THERE'S ONE
[2:41:31] APPLICATION ONE BIG APPLICATION
[2:41:33] FOR ALL THE STATE RESOURCES AND
[2:41:37] TO GET THE FEDERAL 9% OR 4%
[2:41:40] QUICK, YOU KNOW TWO YOU GO TO
[2:41:42] TWO PLACES OKAY.
[2:41:43] BUT I WANT TO WORK IN AN
[2:41:45] INVESTMENT.
[2:41:46] SO LIKE YOU KNOW UM.
[2:41:47] JUST TO TAKE AN EXAMPLE FOR YOU
[2:41:49] TO GO THAT YOU SPENT PROBABLY
[2:41:50] LIKE WOEFULLY OVER 120,000 JUST
[2:41:55] TO GET INTO THE FUNDING.
[2:41:57] WELL YEAH.
[2:41:58] BECAUSE YOU UM YOU HAVE TO DO
[2:42:00] SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF WORK TO
[2:42:01] SHOW THAT YOUR PROJECT IT'S
[2:42:03] IT'S NOT AT THE LEVEL THAT THE
[2:42:05] CITY CAN AGAIN SEE IT.
[2:42:07] YOU HAVE A PROJECT WHEN YOU GO
[2:42:08] TO THE STATE YOU HAVE TO BE
[2:42:09] ALMOST READY TO GO BECAUSE THEY
[2:42:12] WANT TO FUND YOU AND THEN YOU
[2:42:13] SPEND THE NEXT FEW YEARS EVEN
[2:42:15] THOUGH WHEN YOU GET FUNDED IT'S
[2:42:16] STILL TAKE TIME TO CLOSE.
[2:42:18] BUT YOU HAVE TO SHOW THAT YOUR
[2:42:19] PROJECT IS READY TO GO.
[2:42:20] SO OKAY.
[2:42:21] YEAH YEAH SO I WOULD ECHO WHAT
[2:42:23] HE SAYS UM AS FAR AS LIKE UM
[2:42:27] HOMEOWNERSHIP PROJECTS
[2:42:28] OBVIOUSLY.
[2:42:28] THE THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS
[2:42:31] PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD WORKING
[2:42:32] WITH THE CITY UM IF YOU'VE DONE
[2:42:34] IT BEFORE UM BUT AS A NEW
[2:42:35] DEVELOPER IT COULD BE A LITTLE
[2:42:37] BIT CUMBERSOME AND UM, TIME
[2:42:40] CONSUMING TO PUT IT TOGETHER.
[2:42:42] UM, BUT UM TO HIS POINT, UM,
[2:42:46] THE LIKE APPLYING FOR LIKE TECH
[2:42:48] IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
[2:42:49] ANIMAL.
[2:42:49] UM, AND THIS IS AN AREA THAT MY
[2:42:52] COMPANY IS GROWING INTO UH, TO
[2:42:54] DO UM LIKE TECH DEALS AND
[2:42:57] OBVIOUSLY THERE'S SPECIALTY
[2:42:58] CONSULTANTS BUT THAT'S NOT
[2:42:59] SOMETHING WE WOULD TAKE ON ON
[2:43:00] OUR OWN TO DO THAT APPLICATION
[2:43:02] TO MAKE SURE WE'RE POSITIONING
[2:43:04] OURSELVES UM, TO ACTUALLY GET
[2:43:06] IN THE FUNDING ROUND.
[2:43:08] SO WE'RE GOING TO BE REACHING
[2:43:09] OUT TO CONSULTANTS THAT THAT
[2:43:11] SPECIALIZE IN THAT.
[2:43:12] SO I'VE HEARD IT'S VERY IT'S
[2:43:13] VERY CUMBERSOME OKAY.
[2:43:15] YEAH I'M I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT
[2:43:17] PERMITTING IN GENERAL AND AND
[2:43:20] THE GRANT PROCESS AND
[2:43:21] EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS GO
[2:43:22] THROUGH.
[2:43:22] UH I KNOW THAT THAT IN ITSELF
[2:43:24] COULD TAKE A WHILE AND EVEN
[2:43:26] JUST TO TO BE ABLE TO GET THE
[2:43:27] PERMITS FOR YOUR BUILDING EVEN
[2:43:28] IF YOU GET THE GRANTS COULD
[2:43:30] DELAY YOUR PROJECT FROM AFAR.
[2:43:32] SO, UM I ALWAYS TRY TO KEEP AN
[2:43:34] EYE ON THAT.
[2:43:35] SO THANK YOU FOR FOR GIVING
[2:43:36] ME THAT PERSPECTIVE FROM FROM
[2:43:37] YOU FROM YOUR SIDE.
[2:43:39] YEAH.
[2:43:39] AND IF I MAY ASK, A LOT
[2:43:41] OF TIMES PART OF YOUR
[2:43:42] APPLICATION IS TO SHOW THAT
[2:43:43] YOUR PROJECT.
[2:43:44] ALREADY GOT.
[2:43:46] UM PDF APPROVAL OR UH, OSBT.
[2:43:49] REJECTION.
[2:43:50] SO LIKE YOU KNOW THAT.
[2:43:51] YOU READY TO GO SO THAT
[2:43:53] PROCESS ON IS ON ALSO YOU HAVE
[2:43:54] TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THAT
[2:43:56] PROCESS YOU KNOW EARLY ON TO
[2:43:58] GET IT DONE AS YOU GO.
[2:44:00] AND BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE
[2:44:00] QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TO ANSWER IF
[2:44:03] YOU'RE PROPOSING 40 UNITS IS IT
[2:44:05] REALLY 40 MINUTES BECAUSE YOU
[2:44:06] HAVEN'T GET APPROVAL?
[2:44:07] YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS THAT
[2:44:09] YOU KNOW SO YOU MIGHT NOT BE
[2:44:10] ABLE GET FUNDED.
[2:44:11] SO UH OKAY SO OKAY THAT THAT
[2:44:14] EXPLAINS A LOT OF THE PLANNING
[2:44:15] DEPARTMENT PROJECTS THAT I'VE
[2:44:16] SEEN GO.
[2:44:17] THROUGH OKAY.
[2:44:17] YES.
[2:44:18] THANK YOU FOR THAT.
[2:44:19] UM, I APPRECIATE THE THREE
[2:44:21] OF YOU FOR BEING HERE AND
[2:44:22] THAT'S IT FOR ME FOR QUESTIONS
[2:44:23] I DO.
[2:44:23] WANT TO.
[2:44:24] ASK COUNCIL.
[2:44:24] WELL, THIS FOLLOW UP I'M JUST
[2:44:26] LOOKING AT YES I'M JUST GOING
[2:44:29] TO GIVE YOU TIME.
[2:44:30] ALL RIGHT.
[2:44:30] THANK YOU.
[2:44:31] UM I'LL START.
[2:44:33] WITH HILLARY.
[2:44:35] UM HOW MUCH HOW MUCH WOULD IT
[2:44:36] COST TO FULLY RESTORE?
[2:44:38] I THINK YOU SAID THE ONE PLUS.
[2:44:41] MORTGAGE OR UH, ALL OF.
[2:44:43] YOUR PROGRAM SO YOU COULD
[2:44:44] GIVE ME A BREAKDOWN FOR EACH.
[2:44:47] I CAN GET YOU A MORE DETAILED
[2:44:50] ANSWER.
[2:44:51] UM, BUT I THINK IT'S AROUND THE
[2:44:54] 10 MILLION MARK.
[2:44:55] UM, TOTAL FOR THE, UH, JUST THE
[2:45:03] STRAIGHT UP DOWN PAYMENT
[2:45:04] OF PROGRAM THE ONE PLUS BOSTON.
[2:45:06] BUT I WOULD DEFINITELY GET BACK
[2:45:07] TO YOU WITH AN EXACT BREAKDOWN
[2:45:09] OF HOW MUCH EACH THING.
[2:45:12] UM.
[2:45:12] WOULD COST.
[2:45:14] IT ALSO DEPENDS.
[2:45:14] WE'VE HAD A SIGNIFICANT DROP IN
[2:45:17] THE NUMBER OF ONE PLUS BOSTON
[2:45:19] BORROWERS THIS YEAR.
[2:45:20] SO OBVIOUSLY THE THE TOTAL
[2:45:23] SPEND SPEND IS HOW MUCH PER
[2:45:25] BORROWER AND THEN WITHIN THAT
[2:45:28] UM HOW MANY BORROWERS ARE
[2:45:29] FUNDING UM I'M TOLD WE HAD KIND
[2:45:32] OF A DIP IN THE NUMBER
[2:45:34] OF AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:45:35] UNITS COMING ONLINE IN THE PAST
[2:45:37] CALENDAR YEAR AND THAT SOME
[2:45:40] MORE OF THOSE ARPA UNITS ARE
[2:45:41] GOING TO BE COMING ONLINE.
[2:45:43] SO I'LL FACTOR ALL THAT IN WHEN
[2:45:45] I GET BACK TO YOU.
[2:45:46] THANK YOU.
[2:45:47] AND I DO GET SCARED WHEN I HEAR
[2:45:49] MY AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:45:50] DEVELOPER UH SAYING THAT HE'S
[2:45:52] MOVING TO LATEX I SOUNDS LIKE
[2:45:54] HE'S MOVING INTO RENTAL HOUSING
[2:45:57] AND I WONDER IF THAT UH,
[2:46:00] BECAUSE OF, UM, THE SUBSIDIES
[2:46:02] UH, OR THE LACK OF UH, FUNDING
[2:46:05] AND LIKE IS IS IT ARE WE
[2:46:08] INCENTIVIZING WHAT THIS
[2:46:11] INCENTIVIZING, UH, THE CREATION
[2:46:13] OF AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:46:15] BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF FUNDING
[2:46:17] SOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE?
[2:46:18] NO, ABSOLUTELY.
[2:46:20] YOU YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
[2:46:22] UH, THE LACK OF FUNDING MAKES
[2:46:24] IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO
[2:46:25] BUILD AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:46:27] PROJECTS.
[2:46:28] PERIOD PERIOD.
[2:46:29] UM, IF THERE'S NO FUNDING TO,
[2:46:33] UM FILL IN THAT GAP BETWEEN THE
[2:46:35] COST OF BUILD, IT'S VERY
[2:46:37] DIFFICULT TO SAY HEY, YOU'RE
[2:46:39] SPENDING UH, NOT THE ROUGH
[2:46:40] NUMBERS.
[2:46:41] ARE YOU SPENDING $1 MILLION TO
[2:46:43] BUILD AND YOU'RE TO SELL THE
[2:46:45] HOUSE AT 400,000 IF YOU YOU
[2:46:48] REALLY CANNOT.
[2:46:50] SO, UM, WE'RE ABOUT AND THIS IS
[2:46:52] THIS IS THE VERY IMPORTANCE OF,
[2:46:54] UM, SUBSIDIES AND GIVING THESE
[2:46:56] FAMILIES AN OPPORTUNITY TO
[2:46:59] FAMILIES THAT ARE BEING PRICED
[2:47:00] OUT OUT OF SOME SOME OF THESE
[2:47:02] NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, LIKE ROXBURY
[2:47:04] ,MATTAPAN, DORCHESTER HAVING
[2:47:06] THESE DIFFERENT SUBSIDIES AT A
[2:47:08] PLACE IT'S IT'S CRITICAL IS
[2:47:10] VERY CRITICAL BECAUSE COSTS
[2:47:12] CONSTRUCTION.
[2:47:13] COSTS IS GOING UP.
[2:47:14] AND WE KNOW INFLATION UM
[2:47:16] EVERYBODY TALKS ABOUT UM
[2:47:17] PUTTING FOOD ON THE TABLE UH
[2:47:19] HOW INFLATION IS IMPACTING IT.
[2:47:22] UM IT IMPACTS US EVEN MORE ON
[2:47:24] THE CONSTRUCTION SIDE BECAUSE A
[2:47:26] LOT.
[2:47:26] OF THE.
[2:47:27] COMMODITIES THAT WE DEPEND ON
[2:47:28] UM.
[2:47:29] PRICES ARE GOING UP.
[2:47:30] UM, YOU TALK.
[2:47:31] ABOUT DIESEL FUEL, IT IMPACTS
[2:47:34] COMMODITIES THAT WE WE USE THE
[2:47:35] BUILT UM ALL ACROSS THE BOARD
[2:47:37] YOU HEAR YOU HEAR TARIFFS WE'RE
[2:47:40] DEALING WITH IT BECAUSE THERE'S
[2:47:41] CERTAIN MATERIALS AND EQUIPMENT
[2:47:43] THAT'S BEING SOURCED OUT
[2:47:44] OF THIS COUNTRY THAT WE NEED UH
[2:47:46] TO ACTUALLY BUILD UM YOU HEAR.
[2:47:50] UM SCARCITY OF OF LAND IN THE
[2:47:52] BOSTON AREA THAT MEANS COSTS
[2:47:55] COST TO BUY LAND IS IS IS
[2:47:57] INCREASING AND IT MAKES IT EVEN
[2:47:59] HARDER TO TO BUILD THAT UM
[2:48:02] LAYER THAT THAT THAT LAYER
[2:48:04] OF CAKE BETWEEN LAND HARD COSTS
[2:48:08] AND YOUR MISCELLANEOUS OFF
[2:48:10] COSTS TO BUILD TO BUILD A
[2:48:11] PROJECT AND NOT HAVING THOSE
[2:48:13] SUBSIDIES UM IT MAKES A HUGE
[2:48:16] DIFFERENCE AND AS WE'RE LOOKING
[2:48:18] I'LL BE.
[2:48:18] QUITE HONEST WITH YOU AS AS WE
[2:48:20] BUILT OUR.
[2:48:21] OUR FIRM.
[2:48:22] UM, IN THE AFFORDABLE.
[2:48:25] UH, HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:48:26] SPACE, ME AND MY BUSINESS
[2:48:27] PARTNER.
[2:48:27] OUR BACKGROUND IS COMMERCIAL
[2:48:29] CONSTRUCTION.
[2:48:30] BUT WHEN WE DECIDED TO.
[2:48:32] UH, START OUR.
[2:48:33] BUSINESS, WE INTENTIONALLY SAID
[2:48:36] LET'S START IN THE
[2:48:39] HOMEOWNERSHIP SPACE AND BECAUSE
[2:48:40] ONE WE WANTED TO MAKE A
[2:48:42] DIFFERENCE TWO.
[2:48:43] WE WANTED TO, UM.
[2:48:45] STRATEGICALLY SCALE OUR COMPANY
[2:48:47] .
[2:48:47] UM, AND THE CITY HAS BEEN A
[2:48:50] GREAT PARTNER IN HELPING US TO
[2:48:52] SCALE OUR BUSINESS AND WE'RE
[2:48:53] VERY WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL
[2:48:55] OF THAT AND WE'VE MADE A HUGE
[2:48:57] IMPACT ON SOME OF THE FAMILIES
[2:48:58] .
[2:48:58] UH, WE'VE WE'VE.
[2:49:00] HELD NUMEROUS.
[2:49:02] UH.
[2:49:02] RIBBON CUTTINGS WITH THE MAYOR
[2:49:04] UH WITH FAMILIES THAT UM, ARE
[2:49:06] MOVING IN.
[2:49:07] SO IT'S SO IT'S PERSONAL I CAN.
[2:49:10] TELL YOU I.
[2:49:11] COULD SPEAK SO.
[2:49:13] UM I COULD TELL YOU, UH.
[2:49:15] THE BIGGEST IMPACT WAS THE
[2:49:17] SMALLEST THING THAT WE DIDN'T
[2:49:19] EVEN REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO.
[2:49:21] UH, WE HAD A RIBBON CUTTING
[2:49:22] WITH.
[2:49:23] OUR FAMILY AND THE MAYOR ASKED
[2:49:26] ,UM.
[2:49:27] THE DAUGHTER OF THE.
[2:49:29] THE PERSON THAT THAT MOVED
[2:49:30] INTO THE HOME.
[2:49:33] WHAT'S THE WHAT'S THE THING
[2:49:35] THAT YOU LOVE MOST ABOUT YOUR
[2:49:36] HOME?
[2:49:37] AND SHE SAID THE STAIRS AND WE
[2:49:41] ALL LOOK PUZZLED.
[2:49:42] WE LOOKED AT HER LIKE PUZZLED.
[2:49:43] SHE SAID THE STAIRS.
[2:49:44] SHE'S LIKE FINALLY I I LIVE IN
[2:49:47] A PLACE WHERE I COULD GO UP AND
[2:49:49] DOWN THE STAIRS.
[2:49:50] I COULD GO.
[2:49:51] UP UPSTAIRS TO MY ROOM AND
[2:49:52] COME DOWN TO MY LIVING AREA TO
[2:49:54] EAT AND WE ALL STOOD THERE WERE
[2:49:56] LIKE WOW, IT'S THE LITTLE
[2:49:58] THINGS THAT YOU DON'T REALLY
[2:50:00] THINK ABOUT THAT MAKES A HUGE
[2:50:01] IMPACT ON PEOPLE'S OWN PEOPLE'S
[2:50:03] LIFE AND AND WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR
[2:50:05] THAT.
[2:50:06] SO WE.
[2:50:06] DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO.
[2:50:08] TRANSITION TO TO RENTAL BUT
[2:50:10] WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT HOW DO WE
[2:50:13] UH MAINTAIN AS A BUSINESS AS
[2:50:14] WELL RIGHT.
[2:50:15] YEAH.
[2:50:16] NO THANK YOU FOR THAT.
[2:50:17] WE'RE YEAH GO AHEAD SORRY.
[2:50:19] GO AHEAD.
[2:50:20] SORRY YEAH.
[2:50:20] SO THIS IS WHERE I JUST NEED TO
[2:50:22] SAY THAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS
[2:50:26] APPROVED JUST IN THE TWO
[2:50:28] BIGGEST HOUSING CAPITAL
[2:50:30] PROGRAMS OVER 650 MILLION.
[2:50:32] THAT'S FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP AND
[2:50:34] RENTAL IN THE STATE SINCE 2008
[2:50:36] HAS SPENT ALL OF THAT MONEY ON
[2:50:39] RENTAL.
[2:50:40] UM, SO THERE ARE RESOURCES THAT
[2:50:44] COULD BE AVAILABLE TO MAINTAIN
[2:50:46] MORE OF THIS BALANCE.
[2:50:48] THE MAYOR HAS SAID SHE'S
[2:50:49] COMMITTED TO 20% OF NEW
[2:50:51] AFFORDABLE HOUSING BEING
[2:50:52] HOMEOWNERSHIP HOUSING, BUT SHE
[2:50:54] NEEDS THAT STATE PARTNER UM,
[2:50:57] AND THERE'S MONEY ALREADY
[2:50:58] APPROPRIATED THAT COULD GO INTO
[2:51:00] THAT.
[2:51:01] UM, IT HURTS ME TO TO HEAR
[2:51:02] ABOUT THE LIKE TECH UH, THE
[2:51:05] LIGHT TECH CONVERSATION JUST
[2:51:07] NOT THAT WE DON'T NEED
[2:51:08] AFFORDABLE RENTALS.
[2:51:09] WE'RE SAYING 80% AFFORDABLE
[2:51:11] RENTALS.
[2:51:12] BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE, UH YOU
[2:51:14] KNOW, 5% AFFORDABLE
[2:51:16] HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:51:17] UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE'S
[2:51:19] HUGE OPPORTUNITY THERE'S ALSO
[2:51:21] MORE AUTHORIZATION THERE THAN
[2:51:23] THERE IS IN THE CAPITAL PLAN.
[2:51:26] SO THE STATE COULD EITHER UP
[2:51:29] THE AMOUNT OF CAPITAL HOUSING
[2:51:31] FUNDING OVERALL AND ALLOCATE
[2:51:34] ADDITIONAL TO HOMEOWNERSHIP IF
[2:51:36] THEY REALLY FEEL LIKE THEY
[2:51:37] CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEY SHOULD
[2:51:39] JUST GIVE COMMUNITIES THE UM
[2:51:41] ABILITY TO CHOOSE THE THE
[2:51:43] AMOUNT OF EACH RENTAL AND
[2:51:45] HOMEOWNERSHIP THAT THEY WANT
[2:51:47] INSTEAD OF MAKING THE DECISION
[2:51:49] FOR THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
[2:51:51] YEAH.
[2:51:52] NO NO AS AS EVERYONE KNOWS I
[2:51:54] AM A BIG ADVOCATE FOR HOUSING
[2:51:56] BUT I ALSO BIGGER ADVOCATE FOR
[2:51:59] HOMEOWNERSHIP JUST BECAUSE
[2:52:01] OF THE STABILITY I BELIEVE THAT
[2:52:02] IT BRINGS TO A FAMILY UH,
[2:52:04] KNOWING UM, YOU HAVE A
[2:52:06] CONSISTENT AND PREDICTABLE
[2:52:08] HOUSING PAYMENT EVERY MONTH.
[2:52:10] UM, AND HEARING THAT THE THE
[2:52:14] CPA BOARD IS ALSO THAT'S THEIR
[2:52:16] PRIORITY WHEN THEY'RE INVESTING
[2:52:19] INTO HOUSING UH PROJECTS
[2:52:22] HOWEVER, YOU KNOW SEEING AND
[2:52:25] HEARING THAT IS HARD.
[2:52:26] FOR AFFORDABLE.
[2:52:27] UH, DEVELOPERS TO EVEN CREATE
[2:52:29] IT.
[2:52:29] IT'S NOT EVEN BEING PRESENTED
[2:52:30] TO THE BOARD RIGHT NOW.
[2:52:32] SO I GUESS WHAT MY QUESTION IS
[2:52:34] WHAT WHAT UH WHAT CAUSE WOULD
[2:52:37] IT BE MORE FEASIBLE FOR YOU TO
[2:52:40] CREATE HOMEOWNERSHIP UNITS?
[2:52:43] I KNOW WE'RE AT $150,000 RIGHT
[2:52:46] NOW IN SUBSIDIES PER UNIT.
[2:52:48] I THINK CAMBRIDGE DOES, UH,
[2:52:51] $250,000.
[2:52:51] LIKE I'M NOT SURE IF YOU HAVE
[2:52:54] THIS MATH ALREADY FIGURED OUT,
[2:52:55] BUT I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW WHAT
[2:52:56] WHAT CAN GET YOU BACK INTO, UM,
[2:53:00] THE AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP
[2:53:01] CONVERSATION.
[2:53:02] YEAH.
[2:53:02] NO, ABSOLUTELY I.
[2:53:03] COULD I COULD.
[2:53:03] CERTAINLY GET BACK TO YOU WITH
[2:53:05] THE MATH.
[2:53:05] UM, BUT IT'S ALSO VERY
[2:53:07] IMPORTANT TO TO SAY TO.
[2:53:09] THERE'S A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT
[2:53:11] ARE UM, SITTING IN.
[2:53:13] THE PIPELINE THAT NEEDS UM,
[2:53:15] SUBSIDY.
[2:53:16] SO YOU'RE.
[2:53:16] SO IT'S NOT.
[2:53:17] ONLY JUST THE COST IS COMPETING
[2:53:19] UH, FOR THOSE SCARCITY DOLLARS
[2:53:22] TO BUILD THOSE UNITS.
[2:53:23] I MEAN, JUST JUST LIKE I
[2:53:25] MENTIONED, WE HAVE A.
[2:53:27] LONG LIST OF.
[2:53:28] PROJECTS, UM, THAT IS IN
[2:53:30] PREDEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW THAT'S
[2:53:31] GOING TO BE UM THAT'S GOING TO
[2:53:33] NEED FUNDING.
[2:53:35] UM, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S
[2:53:36] OTHER DEVELOPERS JUST LIKE
[2:53:38] ME THAT'S LOOKING FOR FUNDING
[2:53:40] AS WELL SUBSIDY DOLLARS.
[2:53:41] AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE.
[2:53:42] HOLDING IT LOOKING FOR
[2:53:43] SUBSIDIES THE CARRYING COST
[2:53:45] INCREASES WHICH I WOULD ASSUME
[2:53:47] INCREASES THE AMOUNT
[2:53:48] OF SUBSIDIES YOU POSSIBLY WOULD
[2:53:50] NEED TO GET IT SHOVEL READY.
[2:53:52] OH ABSOLUTELY.
[2:53:52] SO RIGHT.
[2:53:53] NOW I CAN TELL YOU'RE A REAL
[2:53:55] LIVE STORY.
[2:53:56] OF THAT.
[2:53:56] WE HAVE WE HAVE A 15.
[2:53:58] UNIT DEVELOPMENT UM THAT'S
[2:54:00] SLATED FOR.
[2:54:01] ON BLUE HILL AVE.
[2:54:03] UM UH, 391.
[2:54:05] AND 353 BLUE.
[2:54:06] HILL AVE.
[2:54:06] UM, IT'S.
[2:54:08] SLATED TO BE ALL.
[2:54:09] HOMEOWNERSHIP UH, PROJECT.
[2:54:11] AND WE'VE BEEN.
[2:54:12] FOR A LACK OF.
[2:54:14] SUBSIDY AND AND.
[2:54:16] COST ESCALATION.
[2:54:17] WE'VE BEEN.
[2:54:18] TRYING TO FIGURE OUT
[2:54:19] CREATIVELY.
[2:54:19] HOW DO WE.
[2:54:21] GET THIS.
[2:54:21] PROJECT TO THE CLOSING TABLE
[2:54:24] ACTUALLY BRILLIANT.
[2:54:25] UM.
[2:54:26] THE MARKET HAS SHIFTED
[2:54:28] TREMENDOUSLY AND WE WE WERE
[2:54:31] ANTICIPATING UM, SOME.
[2:54:32] SUBSIDY DOLLARS TO COME OUT
[2:54:33] OF UM.
[2:54:34] COMMONWEALTH BUILDER FUNDS
[2:54:35] WHICH ESSENTIALLY HAS DRIED UP
[2:54:38] AND THE CITY UH THE CITY HAS UH
[2:54:40] STRICT LIMIT IN TERMS OF UH THE
[2:54:43] DOLLARS.
[2:54:43] PER UNIT SUBSIDY THAT THEY'RE
[2:54:45] WILLING TO ALLOCATE.
[2:54:46] SO USUALLY WE WOULD.
[2:54:47] RELY ON.
[2:54:48] COMMONWEALTH BUILDER FUNDS TO
[2:54:49] BRIDGE THAT GAP AND
[2:54:51] UNFORTUNATELY IT'S NOT
[2:54:52] AVAILABLE.
[2:54:53] SO NOW WE'RE.
[2:54:54] TRYING TO FIGURE OUT CREATIVELY
[2:54:55] HOW.
[2:54:55] DO WE ACTUALLY GET THAT PROJECT
[2:54:57] TO CLOSE.
[2:54:58] SO UH SO WE COULD ACTUALLY
[2:54:59] BUILD IT WITH RISING COSTS.
[2:55:02] YEAH AND UH JUST.
[2:55:03] TWO MORE.
[2:55:04] QUESTIONS AND I SEE
[2:55:06] COUNCILOR COPEPODS HERE.
[2:55:09] UM.
[2:55:14] OR MAYBE JUST ONE THEN THEN A
[2:55:17] COMMENT UH, STEVE.
[2:55:19] YOU KNOW.
[2:55:20] CAN YOU TALK TO ME ABOUT
[2:55:22] FEDERAL FUNDING AND HOW YOU
[2:55:24] VIEW IT AFFECTING, UH, BOSTON'S
[2:55:27] AFFORDABLE HOUSING CREATION AND
[2:55:28] ALSO UM, WITHIN THAT
[2:55:31] CONVERSATION THE AFFORDABLE.
[2:55:31] HOMEOWNERSHIP CONVERSATION.
[2:55:34] I THINK YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT
[2:55:35] WE'RE SEEING OBVIOUSLY IS THE
[2:55:37] END UH, AT THIS CALENDAR YEAR,
[2:55:38] THE END OF THE ARPA FUNDING
[2:55:40] WHICH I THINK WAS WISELY A
[2:55:42] GREAT DEAL OF IT WAS ALLOCATED
[2:55:44] TOWARDS VARIOUS VARIOUS
[2:55:45] AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROGRAMS,
[2:55:47] UM, WHICH YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT
[2:55:49] A THERE'S NOT A POLICY MISTAKE
[2:55:51] HERE.
[2:55:51] RIGHT?
[2:55:51] THE MONEY HAS SIMPLY RUN OUT
[2:55:53] IT'S RUN OUT FOR EVERYBODY.
[2:55:54] UM, SO I THINK THAT OBVIOUSLY
[2:55:57] UH THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS AN IMPACT
[2:55:59] I THINK YOU HAVE THE FEDERAL
[2:56:00] ADMINISTRATION RIGHT NOW THAT I
[2:56:01] THINK IT'S NOT AS FOCUSED.
[2:56:03] ON.
[2:56:03] AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRIORITIES
[2:56:05] AS I THINK WE COLLECTIVELY
[2:56:06] WOULD LIKE.
[2:56:07] UM, SO I DO THINK UM I DO THINK
[2:56:10] WE ARE YOU KNOW.
[2:56:12] WE WE ARE SOMEWHAT SOMEWHAT ON
[2:56:13] OUR OWN UH WITH OUR WITH OUR
[2:56:16] STATE PARTNERS TO BE FAIR BUT
[2:56:17] WE ARE ON OUR OWN IN TERMS
[2:56:19] OF UM, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL
[2:56:20] GOVERNMENT ISN'T GOING TO HAVE
[2:56:22] UH ISN'T GOING TO ISN'T GOING
[2:56:23] TO BE THE SOLUTION HERE UH, FOR
[2:56:26] A NUMBER OF YEARS.
[2:56:27] YEAH.
[2:56:28] AND UH, I ALWAYS THINK ABOUT
[2:56:30] YEAH, WE HAVE ADVOCACY AT UM ON
[2:56:32] THE FEDERAL SIDE WE HAVE
[2:56:34] ADVOCACY TO GET MORE MONEY AT
[2:56:35] THE STATE HOUSE.
[2:56:36] UM, BUT I ALWAYS WANT TO, YOU
[2:56:38] KNOW, THINK ABOUT WHAT WE CAN
[2:56:40] DO AS A CITY.
[2:56:41] UH, WE HAVE LEVERS, UM, THAT
[2:56:43] THAT WE CAN PULL.
[2:56:44] UH, ONE OF THOSE LEVERS IS, YOU
[2:56:46] KNOW, POSSIBLY THE CPA.
[2:56:48] UM, INSTEAD OF HOPING AND
[2:56:50] PRAYING THAT ANOTHER BODY, UM,
[2:56:52] WILL ACT UM, IN OUR FAVOR
[2:56:56] ESPECIALLY WHEN WE SEE, UM,
[2:56:58] AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPERS
[2:57:00] SAYING THAT THEY'RE PULLING
[2:57:01] AWAY FROM AFFORDABLE
[2:57:03] HOMEOWNERSHIP BECAUSE THE MONEY
[2:57:06] IS DRYING UP.
[2:57:07] AND I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE
[2:57:08] BEST WAYS UH, TO FIGHT UM,
[2:57:11] OF MASS DISPLACEMENT IS THROUGH
[2:57:12] AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP.
[2:57:14] UH, SO JUST HEARING UM, YOU
[2:57:17] KNOW, THAT MONEY DRYING UP I DO
[2:57:19] BELIEVE IS ALARMING.
[2:57:20] UM, BUT I KNOW I DO HEAR THE
[2:57:22] CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE OTHER
[2:57:24] CATEGORIES WHEN IT COMES TO CPA
[2:57:26] AND I, I DO FEEL THAT, YOU
[2:57:29] KNOW, WE DO HAVE OTHER
[2:57:30] ALTERNATIVE FUNDING AND SOURCES
[2:57:32] UH, THAT WE CAN SUPPORT UH,
[2:57:35] THOSE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES
[2:57:36] WHETHER IT'S QUESTION SIX THE
[2:57:38] CONSERVATION FUND UH, WHICH I
[2:57:40] AM A SUPPORTER OF UH THE
[2:57:42] CAPITAL BUDGET UH, BUT ALSO IF
[2:57:45] WE WERE TO GROW HOUSING
[2:57:47] PRODUCTION LIKE WE ARE ACTUALLY
[2:57:49] GROWING THIS POT OF MONEY TO
[2:57:51] HOPEFULLY GET MORE FUNDING TO
[2:57:53] THOSE OTHER CATEGORIES.
[2:57:55] SO I THINK WE'RE IN A TIME UM,
[2:57:58] WHERE YOU KNOW, HOUSING
[2:58:00] PRODUCTION HAS STALLED OUT UH,
[2:58:01] PARTICULARLY THE AFFORDABLE
[2:58:02] SIDE.
[2:58:03] AND UM, I THINK IT'S A
[2:58:07] CONVERSATION THAT YOU KNOW, I'M
[2:58:09] HAPPY THAT WE'RE HAVING AND
[2:58:10] HOPEFULLY WE'LL CONTINUE TO SEE
[2:58:12] WHAT FLEXIBILITY UM, WE CAN
[2:58:15] HAVE IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW,
[2:58:17] JUMP START BACK AFFORDABLE
[2:58:20] HOMEOWNERSHIP TO HOPEFULLY GROW
[2:58:21] THIS POT OF MONEY TO MAKE SURE
[2:58:23] THAT ALL THE CATEGORIES ARE
[2:58:25] RECEIVING MORE UH, THAT'S ALL I
[2:58:27] HAVE FOR NOW, CHAIR.
[2:58:28] THANK YOU, COUNCILOR CULPEPPER.
[2:58:32] UM.
[2:58:33] A LAP LAST LAST THING AND A
[2:58:35] VERY LAST THING.
[2:58:36] LAST THING.
[2:58:38] UM, AND HOPEFULLY I KNOW YOU
[2:58:39] ALSO ASK THIS QUESTION.
[2:58:41] UM, WE LOVE WHEN EXECUTIVE
[2:58:44] BROWN, UH, BRINGS BACK THE
[2:58:46] ANALYSIS ON BOND AND AGAINST
[2:58:49] EPA UH, TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW,
[2:58:50] SIT DOWN WITH YOU, STEVE AND
[2:58:52] ANYONE WHO ELSE IS INTERESTED
[2:58:54] TO UNDERSTAND LIKE THE IMPACTS
[2:58:56] UH THAT THAT THAT THAT WOULD
[2:58:57] HAVE THANK YOU.
[2:59:00] COUNCILOR CULPEPER.
[2:59:01] UM, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU AN
[2:59:04] OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, SAY
[2:59:06] STATEMENT OR ASK A QUESTION.
[2:59:09] UM, YOU HAVE SEVEN MINUTES.
[2:59:11] ASK A QUESTION.
[2:59:13] YOU ASK QUESTIONS SEVEN
[2:59:15] MINUTES.
[2:59:15] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, FOR
[2:59:16] HOLDING THIS HEARING.
[2:59:18] THANK YOU CONSTABLE WELL FOR
[2:59:20] BRINGING.
[2:59:20] THIS SIGNIFICANT AND IMPORTANT
[2:59:23] HEARING OVER TO FORWARD FOR
[2:59:25] ADDING ME AS AN ORIGINAL
[2:59:26] CO-SPONSOR.
[2:59:27] THANK YOU FOR THE
[2:59:30] ADMINISTRATION TESTIMONY.
[2:59:32] I SEE THAT BEING HAS GONE BUT I
[2:59:34] THANK YOU ALL FOR STILL BEING
[2:59:35] HERE BECAUSE FOR ME HOUSING IS
[2:59:39] .
[2:59:41] PROBABLY THE MOST SIGNIFICANT
[2:59:43] ISSUE UH.
[2:59:45] WORKED ON IN MY.
[2:59:46] PROFESSIONAL LIFE.
[2:59:48] I SEE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF IT.
[2:59:50] I SEE THE IMPORTANCE OF IT.
[2:59:52] I SEE HOW THE CPA SUPPORTED AND
[2:59:56] HELPED BRING ABOUT MORE HOUSING
[2:59:58] WHETHER IT'S HOMEOWNERSHIP,
[3:00:00] WHETHER IT'S AFFORDABLE HOUSING
[3:00:01] .
[3:00:02] I SEE WE'RE LOSING $240 MILLION
[3:00:05] IN FEDERAL ARPA FUNDING FOR
[3:00:08] AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S
[3:00:10] COMING TO AN END.
[3:00:13] AND WE ALL KNOW THAT NEXT
[3:00:15] YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE IS GOING TO
[3:00:17] BE A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR NOW IT
[3:00:19] WAS DIFFICULT THIS YEAR, BUT
[3:00:22] NEXT YEAR IT'S GOING TO BE EVEN
[3:00:23] MORE DIFFICULT BECAUSE WHEN YOU
[3:00:25] LOOK AT THE ARPA FUNDING THAT
[3:00:27] WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING, IT'S
[3:00:29] COMING TO AN END NOT JUST FOR
[3:00:31] THE CPA BUT IN MANY OTHER AREAS
[3:00:34] .
[3:00:35] THE BUDGET CONVERSATION NEXT
[3:00:38] YEAR IS GOING TO BE TRYING TO
[3:00:41] STEAL FROM PETER TO PAY PAUL.
[3:00:43] I MEAN WE'RE GOING TO BE IN A
[3:00:44] TOUGH BUDGET CYCLE NEXT YEAR.
[3:00:46] .
[3:00:47] AND WHEN IT COMES TO HOUSING,
[3:00:49] UH THE WAY HOUSING HAS STALLED
[3:00:52] ESPECIALLY WITH LOSING THIS
[3:00:53] FUNDING UM AND I SEE THE
[3:00:58] QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU TAKE.
[3:01:01] MONEY FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE
[3:01:03] CPA TO ALLOCATE TO HOUSING THE
[3:01:07] ALLOCATION TO 50%?
[3:01:09] NOW HOW DO YOU WHERE DO YOU GET
[3:01:10] THAT OTHER 20 TO 30% FROM
[3:01:14] BECAUSE.
[3:01:16] CPA DOES A GREAT JOB IN
[3:01:19] SUPPORTING UH HISTORIC
[3:01:22] PRESERVATION.
[3:01:25] UH DEVELOPMENTS AND WITHOUT A.
[3:01:27] CPA I CAN TELL YOU THAT MANY
[3:01:29] OF THE CHURCHES WOULDN'T BE
[3:01:30] ABLE TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY
[3:01:33] DO TO TODAY.
[3:01:34] MANY OF THE CHURCHES THAT HAVE.
[3:01:38] UH.
[3:01:39] USED THAT CPA MONEY AS
[3:01:42] REALLY CAPITAL FUNDING TO MAKE
[3:01:45] UPGRADES ON THE CHURCHES UH MAY
[3:01:49] NOT BE THERE.
[3:01:50] AND THE WAY IT IS NOW WHEN YOU
[3:01:52] LOOK AT UH OPEN SPACES YOU LOOK
[3:01:55] AT RECREATION WHEN YOU LOOK AT
[3:01:59] THE SIGNIFICANCE OF CPA AND YOU
[3:02:02] THINK ABOUT.
[3:02:05] THE AWKWARD FUNDS AND HOW
[3:02:07] SIGNIFICANT THEY WERE AND NOW
[3:02:09] YOU AT A POINT YOU'RE AT A
[3:02:10] POINT WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO
[3:02:11] FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU LEVERAGE
[3:02:16] THE MONEY THROUGH THE CPA THAT
[3:02:18] YOU WILL HAVE UH, WHAT REALLY
[3:02:22] WON'T BE AS MUCH NEXT YEAR AS
[3:02:25] YOU HAVE THIS YEAR?
[3:02:27] AND SO I KNOW FOR DEVELOPERS I
[3:02:28] KNOW IT'S A CHALLENGE.
[3:02:31] UH.
[3:02:32] BUT NOT ONLY FOR THE
[3:02:34] DEVELOPERS I THINK FOR THE CITY
[3:02:38] WE'RE GOING TO HAVE BUDGET
[3:02:39] CHALLENGES NEXT YEAR UH, UNLESS
[3:02:41] WE FIND MONEY FROM SOMEPLACE.
[3:02:44] UH, AND SO.
[3:02:47] MY QUESTION TO YOU IS.
[3:02:51] AND I'M SURE YOU'VE THOUGHT A
[3:02:53] LOT ABOUT WHERE DO YOU PULL
[3:02:54] FROM WITHIN THE CPA BUDGET TO.
[3:03:02] TRANSITION MONEY FROM OTHER
[3:03:04] AREAS TO HOUSING?
[3:03:07] WHERE WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THAT
[3:03:09] MONEY COME FROM TO SUPPORT NOT
[3:03:13] EVEN THE LEVEL OF FUNDING FOR
[3:03:15] HOUSING THAT YOU HAVE THIS YEAR
[3:03:18] ?
[3:03:19] UH, BUT EVEN IF YOU COULD FIND
[3:03:21] 10% I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT 20 OR
[3:03:24] 30.
[3:03:24] WHERE WOULD YOU FIND 10% TO ADD
[3:03:27] TO THE HOUSING ALLOCATION
[3:03:30] FUNDING?
[3:03:33] I THINK.
[3:03:35] I FIRST OF ALL I WOULD
[3:03:36] OBVIOUSLY DEFER TO THE JUDGMENT
[3:03:38] OF OF THIS BODY IN THE CPC UH,
[3:03:40] OF HOW TO DO THAT.
[3:03:41] I MEAN THERE'S A COUPLE
[3:03:42] PATHWAYS THERE.
[3:03:44] UM ONE THAT UH SENIOR DIRECTOR
[3:03:46] BROWN.
[3:03:47] I THINK ALLUDED TO I DON'T WANT
[3:03:49] TO.
[3:03:49] SHE DIDN'T.
[3:03:51] ADVOCATE FOR THAT TO BE
[3:03:52] CLEAR.
[3:03:52] I WANT TO SORT OF MAKE THAT
[3:03:54] CLEAR WHERE SHE TALKED ABOUT
[3:03:55] THAT.
[3:03:56] YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT BREAKDOWN
[3:03:58] IS 50% TO HOUSING, 20% HISTORIC
[3:04:02] PRESERVATION, 20% UH, TO OPEN
[3:04:05] SPACE AND THEN THERE'S A
[3:04:06] DISCRETIONARY 10% ONE COULD
[3:04:07] TAKE THAT DISCRETIONARY 10% AND
[3:04:10] ALLOCATE IT ALL TO HOUSING AND
[3:04:12] THEN AFTER THAT IT BECOMES A
[3:04:14] ZERO SUM GAME.
[3:04:15] UM YOU HAVE TO TAKE FROM YOU
[3:04:17] HAVE TO TAKE FROM ONE TO THE
[3:04:19] OTHER AND I THINK YOU KNOW AS I
[3:04:20] SAID IN MY TESTIMONY THAT IS
[3:04:22] PART OF THE PRIORITY SETTING
[3:04:23] THAT POLITICAL BODIES ENGAGE IN
[3:04:26] ALL THE TIME.
[3:04:27] RIGHT?
[3:04:27] AND IT CAN BE IT'S
[3:04:28] UNCOMFORTABLE IN THIS CASE
[3:04:29] BECAUSE IT IS.
[3:04:30] ZERO SUM.
[3:04:31] UM BUT.
[3:04:31] YOU ARE.
[3:04:32] SETTING THE PRIORITIES.
[3:04:34] WHAT WOULD YOU SET AS
[3:04:37] PRIORITIES.
[3:04:38] I THINK I MEAN I THINK HOUSING
[3:04:40] IS THE PRIORITY.
[3:04:42] UM THAT SAID I DON'T HAVE I
[3:04:45] DON'T HAVE A NUMBER AT MY
[3:04:46] FINGERTIPS OF WHAT IT SHOULD
[3:04:47] BE.
[3:04:48] UM BUT I THINK YOU KNOW, I
[3:04:49] THINK THIS IS A POTENTIALLY
[3:04:50] POWERFUL TOOL TO ADDRESS
[3:04:53] FUNDING ISSUES WITH AFFORDABLE
[3:04:55] HOUSING.
[3:04:57] SO YOU WOULD RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
[3:05:00] UM, I DIDN'T HEAR, UH, THAT IN
[3:05:03] BROWN'S TESTIMONY, BUT THERE'S
[3:05:08] A SUGGESTION OR MAYBE INFERENCE
[3:05:10] FROM WHAT SHE SAID THAT MAYBE
[3:05:12] YOU TAKE THE 10% RIGHT OFF THE
[3:05:15] BACK.
[3:05:15] LET'S SAY YOU DO THAT.
[3:05:17] TAKE THE 10%.
[3:05:19] WHERE WOULD YOU GO NEXT?
[3:05:21] I WOULD SO JUST TO BE CLEAR I
[3:05:23] WANT TO BE I DON'T KNOW I DON'T
[3:05:25] WANT TO BE FAIR TO SO YOU TALK
[3:05:26] ABOUT IT I DON'T THINK SHE'S
[3:05:27] NOT PUTTING.
[3:05:27] ANYTHING ON IT.
[3:05:28] SHE JUST LAY IT SHE JUST LAY
[3:05:29] IT OUT.
[3:05:30] THIS IS HOW THE FRAMEWORK
[3:05:31] WORKS.
[3:05:31] YOU HAVE A DISCRETIONARY 10%.
[3:05:33] UM AND I.
[3:05:34] SAID INFERENCE.
[3:05:35] START THERE AND.
[3:05:36] INFERENCE RIGHT.
[3:05:37] NOT HER WORDS.
[3:05:38] NO NO NO MEAN YOU'RE REAL
[3:05:39] INFERENCE.
[3:05:40] YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT YOU.
[3:05:41] AND I DON'T WANT GET ANYONE
[3:05:42] IN TROUBLE.
[3:05:42] NO NO NO NO.
[3:05:43] YOU KNOW, HARM.
[3:05:44] IS MY UH MY GOAL.
[3:05:46] SO YEAH I SAID YOUR INFERENCE.
[3:05:47] THERE, SIR.
[3:05:48] WHERE WOULD YOU GO NEXT?
[3:05:51] YOU KNOW I DON'T UM I DON'T
[3:05:54] HAVE A I DON'T HAVE A FORMULA
[3:05:56] BY WHICH, UM YOU KNOW THAT I
[3:05:58] WOULD IT'S ALSO DIFFICULT TO
[3:06:01] KNOW ABSENT UH, THERE'S THE
[3:06:04] CONCEPTUAL IDEA OF WE'RE
[3:06:05] PLAYING WITH PERCENTAGES.
[3:06:06] THERE'S ALSO A BOTTOM UP
[3:06:09] ANALYSIS OF WHAT ARE THE
[3:06:10] PROJECTS IN THE Q AND I.
[3:06:12] I HAVE NO VISIBILITY ON THE
[3:06:14] PROJECTS IN THE Q THAT WOULD
[3:06:15] PROBABLY THAT WOULD PROBABLY
[3:06:17] COME INTO MY THINKING IF
[3:06:19] THERE'S WONDERFUL YOU KNOW, IF
[3:06:20] THERE'S WONDERFUL HISTORIC
[3:06:21] PRESERVATION PROJECTS AND
[3:06:22] THERE'S A PAUCITY OF OPEN SPACE
[3:06:25] PROJECTS, I WOULD THINK
[3:06:27] DIFFERENTLY ABOUT IT.
[3:06:30] YOU WANT TO TAKE A STAB AT IT?
[3:06:32] YEAH.
[3:06:32] I'M SORRY.
[3:06:33] HE.
[3:06:35] NO COME ON, LET'S HEAR.
[3:06:35] THAT'S NO I UM.
[3:06:38] AND I.
[3:06:39] UNDERSTAND HOUSING.
[3:06:40] AND WHAT'S IN THE Q YOU KNOW
[3:06:42] WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW BUT
[3:06:44] LET'S.
[3:06:44] SAY YOU TAKE THAT 10% AND WE'RE
[3:06:46] NOT.
[3:06:48] CONNECTING THAT WITH ANYTHING.
[3:06:50] THAT THAT EVEN BROWN SAID LET'S
[3:06:52] JUST SAY WE ASSUME WE TAKE THAT
[3:06:54] TO SO WHERE DO YOU GO NEXT?
[3:06:56] I'M A DATA GUY.
[3:06:59] UM SO I WOULD NEED THE DATA TO
[3:07:00] SAY NO.
[3:07:02] I'M BEING QUITE HONEST WITH
[3:07:02] YOU.
[3:07:03] I WOULD NEED TO SEE THE DATA
[3:07:04] OF.
[3:07:05] ONE TO HIS POINT THE PROJECTS
[3:07:07] THAT ARE IN THE Q BUT TWO
[3:07:09] HISTORICALLY.
[3:07:09] HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE.
[3:07:11] BEEN SPENT IN THOSE UH AND
[3:07:12] THOSE DIFFERENT BUCKETS FOR THE
[3:07:14] PAST FIVE YEARS JUST TO MAKE.
[3:07:17] A REAL.
[3:07:18] SOUND JUDGMENT.
[3:07:19] OBVIOUSLY AFFORDABLE.
[3:07:20] HOUSING THIS.
[3:07:21] IS MY REALM.
[3:07:22] THIS IS WHAT UM, I BUILD UM,
[3:07:25] I'M VERY A STRONG ADVOCATE
[3:07:26] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING SO I
[3:07:28] THINK THERE'S A HUGE NEED FOR
[3:07:29] IT.
[3:07:29] BUT AT THE SAME TIME, JUST TO
[3:07:31] BE FAIR, I WOULD WANT TO SEE
[3:07:34] THE DATA AND AND REALLY DIVE IN
[3:07:37] AND SEE OKAY WHAT.
[3:07:38] WHAT ARE SOME OF THE
[3:07:39] PRIORITIES.
[3:07:40] WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEEDS
[3:07:41] UM HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT THE
[3:07:43] PAST FIVE YEARS?
[3:07:44] DOES IT REALLY MAKE SENSE FOR
[3:07:47] OPEN SPACE TO HAVE 20% IF
[3:07:49] THEY'VE ONLY SPENT 10% OR IF
[3:07:51] THEY OR IT DOES, IT REALLY
[3:07:53] MAKES SENSE TO CUT THEIR
[3:07:54] FUNDING IF THEY HAVE A BACKLOG
[3:07:57] OF 30%.
[3:07:58] RIGHT?
[3:07:59] SO IT'S.
[3:08:00] YOU REALLY WANT.
[3:08:01] TO LOOK AT THE DATA JUST TO
[3:08:02] BE FAIR.
[3:08:03] UM QUITE HONEST.
[3:08:04] THAT'S FAIR THAT I LIKE THAT
[3:08:08] PERSPECTIVE.
[3:08:08] IT'S FAIR IT'S A FAIR
[3:08:09] PERSPECTIVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA
[3:08:11] BUT.
[3:08:13] I'M NOT SURE WE.
[3:08:14] WANT TO LOOK AT THE DATA,
[3:08:16] ESPECIALLY WHEN WE LOOK AT WHAT
[3:08:19] WE SPENT IN THE PAST ON
[3:08:20] HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
[3:08:22] THAT'S BEEN A GREAT.
[3:08:24] PROGRAM AND THE CITY OF BOSTON
[3:08:26] WITH REGARD TO.
[3:08:29] OLDER BUILDINGS.
[3:08:31] AND SUSTAINING OLDER BUILDINGS
[3:08:33] OR SO I KNOW I WAS LATE I KNOW.
[3:08:40] COUNCILOR PEPEN AND
[3:08:41] COUNCIL WERE WELL COVERED MOST
[3:08:43] OF UH WHAT I WOULD PROBABLY
[3:08:44] ASK.
[3:08:45] SO I LOOK AT THE HEARING I LOOK
[3:08:47] AT THE LINK AND LOOK AT THE
[3:08:48] HEARING.
[3:08:48] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[3:08:49] THANK YOU.
[3:08:51] UM, WHAT DO YOU GENTLEMEN
[3:08:54] LIKE TO PROVIDE CLOSING REMARKS
[3:08:57] OR ANY FINAL STATEMENTS?
[3:08:58] NO.
[3:08:59] AGAIN I'M.
[3:09:00] I'M A VERY STRONG.
[3:09:01] ADVOCATE OF I THINK
[3:09:03] OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN
[3:09:04] FINDING ANY OPPORTUNITY TO
[3:09:06] RAISE THE PERCENTAGE UM BUT
[3:09:07] AGAIN, JUST TO BE FAIR, JUST
[3:09:09] LIKE I ANSWERED UM, COUNCILOR.
[3:09:12] CULPEPPER.
[3:09:13] UM.
[3:09:14] YOU REALLY.
[3:09:14] WANT TO LOOK AT THE DATA
[3:09:15] JUST TO BE FAIR IN TERMS
[3:09:17] OF WHERE YOU MAKE CUTS OR
[3:09:18] WHERE.
[3:09:19] HOW DO YOU.
[3:09:19] UH, REALLOCATE SOME OF THAT
[3:09:20] PIECE OF THE PIE?
[3:09:22] UM, BUT WE I'M A VERY STRONG
[3:09:24] ADVOCATE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[3:09:26] I THINK THERE'S THERE'S A HUGE
[3:09:28] NEED FOR.
[3:09:29] WHAT WE DO.
[3:09:30] IN.
[3:09:30] THE HOMEOWNERSHIP REALM AND WE
[3:09:32] REALLY DEPEND ON IT.
[3:09:34] JUST YOU KNOW, JUST IN CLOSING,
[3:09:36] THANKS.
[3:09:37] UH, APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY
[3:09:39] TO TESTIFY.
[3:09:40] UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE TALKED
[3:09:41] ABOUT THIS IS POTENTIALLY A
[3:09:43] POWERFUL TOOL FOR INCREASING
[3:09:44] FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[3:09:46] IT IS ON SOME LEVEL AS
[3:09:49] COUNCILOR CULPEPER INDICATED IN
[3:09:50] HIS QUESTION, IT IS ZERO SUM.
[3:09:52] WE'RE TAKING AWAY MONEY FROM
[3:09:54] OTHER PROGRAMS THAT HAVE
[3:09:55] VIRTUOUS INTENT AND OUTCOMES.
[3:09:58] BUT I THINK IT IS ONE IT IS ONE
[3:09:59] THAT IS WORTH IT IS A
[3:10:01] DISCUSSION THAT IS WELL WORTH
[3:10:02] HAVING, PARTICULARLY IN THIS
[3:10:03] MOMENT WHERE WE ARE STRUGGLING
[3:10:05] TO PRODUCE ENOUGH HOUSING AND
[3:10:07] ENOUGH AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR
[3:10:08] OUR COMMUNITIES.
[3:10:09] THANK YOU I HILLARY.
[3:10:12] JUST THANK YOU FOR INCLUDING
[3:10:14] ME IN THE CONVERSATION.
[3:10:16] OF COURSE I REALLY DO
[3:10:17] APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU
[3:10:18] ALL DO IN YOUR RESPECTIVE
[3:10:19] FIELDS.
[3:10:21] UM AS STEVE MENTIONED,
[3:10:22] DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION WORTH
[3:10:24] HAVING SO THANK YOU FOR BEING
[3:10:25] TODAY ON THE PANEL.
[3:10:27] UM, BEFORE I CONCLUDE I BELIEVE
[3:10:30] THERE IS A VIDEO TESTIMONY UM,
[3:10:35] THE WE WERE GOING TO SHOW.
[3:10:48] GOOD MORNING.
[3:10:49] MY NAME IS LAURIE RABIN I LIVE
[3:10:51] IN ROSLINDALE.
[3:10:51] THIS IS FOR DOCKET 1601.
[3:10:53] THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TAKING
[3:10:55] THE TESTIMONY TODAY.
[3:10:56] I COME FROM A FAMILY THAT
[3:10:58] BELIEVES IN PUBLIC FUNDING FOR
[3:10:59] PUBLIC GOOD.
[3:11:00] MY DAD HELPED START THE
[3:11:01] MUSICIANS UNION IN LOS ANGELES
[3:11:03] AND MY MOTHER SERVED FOR
[3:11:04] DECADES ON THE BOARD OF THE
[3:11:06] L.A. VALLEY PROGRESSIVE
[3:11:07] DEMOCRATS.
[3:11:08] I SUPPORT NEW REVENUE FOR
[3:11:10] AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
[3:11:10] I ALSO BELIEVE THAT PUBLIC
[3:11:12] FUNDING NEEDS CLEAR GUARDRAILS.
[3:11:14] PUBLIC FUNDING SHOULD COME WITH
[3:11:16] ENFORCEABLE COMMITMENTS TO
[3:11:17] AFFORDABLE HOUSING, TO SAFE
[3:11:19] DEMOLITIONS, TO TIMELY ANSWERS
[3:11:21] TO NEIGHBORS AND MEANINGFUL
[3:11:22] RELOCATION SUPPORT FOR HOUSING
[3:11:25] PRICED JUST BELOW MARKET RATE
[3:11:27] IS NOT AFFORDABLE OR ACCESSIBLE
[3:11:29] FOR NEARLY EVERYONE WHO'S.
[3:11:30] RENT BURDENED.
[3:11:31] WE NEED CLEAR AFFORDABILITY
[3:11:33] STANDARDS TO REFLECT THEIR
[3:11:34] INCOMES.
[3:11:35] SECOND, A CPA FUNDED PROJECT IN
[3:11:38] ROSLINDALE PROVIDES AN EXAMPLE
[3:11:39] OF THE NEED FOR GUARDRAILS
[3:11:42] DURING DEMOLITION.
[3:11:42] FOR EXAMPLE, RESIDENTS RAISED
[3:11:43] SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT
[3:11:45] PARTICULATE MATTER IN THE AIR,
[3:11:47] ABOUT DEBRIS, ABOUT AIR QUALITY
[3:11:51] PARTICULARLY IN THIS
[3:11:52] NEIGHBORHOOD WITH FOUR
[3:11:53] CHILDCARE CENTERS AND A
[3:11:56] ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE BURDENED
[3:11:59] BY NEPA, A CITY LEADERS SAID.
[3:12:03] WELL, YOU KNOW, THE PROTOCOLS
[3:12:04] WERE GENERALLY BEING FOLLOWED
[3:12:06] BUT AGAIN, IF MY CONDITIONS
[3:12:07] NEEDED TO BE TIGHTENED UP, WE
[3:12:10] ALSO CONTINUE TO SEEK
[3:12:11] DOCUMENTATION SHOWING WHAT
[3:12:12] RELOCATION SYSTEM ASSISTANCE
[3:12:14] WAS PROVIDED TO BUSINESSES IN
[3:12:15] THE DEMOLISHED BUILDING.
[3:12:17] THESE ARE BUSINESSES OWNED BY
[3:12:19] IMMIGRANTS THAT HAD SERVED THIS
[3:12:20] SQUARE FOR DECADES.
[3:12:22] WAS THERE SUPPORT HELP THEM
[3:12:24] REMAIN IN OUR COMMUNITY?
[3:12:26] THIRD, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THE
[3:12:28] COUNCIL PRESIDENT AND BP TO
[3:12:30] ASSURE THAT OVERSIGHT
[3:12:31] OF HOUSING AND DEVELOPMENT
[3:12:32] FUNDS INCLUDE A BROAD RANGE
[3:12:34] OF CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE
[3:12:35] CHAIRS.
[3:12:36] THIS WOULD HELP BRING MORE
[3:12:37] NEIGHBORHOOD VOICES INTO THE
[3:12:39] PROCESS, ENCOURAGE MEANINGFUL
[3:12:41] INPUT FROM THOSE MOST AFFECTED
[3:12:43] WITH CLEAR STANDARDS AND SHARED
[3:12:45] OVERSIGHT, WE CAN CREATE
[3:12:46] AFFORDABLE HOMES WHILE
[3:12:48] PROTECTING THE PEOPLE AND
[3:12:49] BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY
[3:12:50] THERE.
[3:12:51] THIS WOULD TRULY BE PUBLIC
[3:12:52] MONEY FOR PUBLIC GOOD AND THANK
[3:12:54] YOU VERY MUCH.
[3:12:58] PERFECT COUNCILOR WORRELL.
[3:13:00] WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY
[3:13:02] CLOSING REMARKS?
[3:13:05] THANK YOU CHAIR.
[3:13:06] UH THANK YOU CENTRAL STAFF.
[3:13:07] THANK YOU TO MY TEAM.
[3:13:08] UH, THANK YOU TO THE PANELISTS.
[3:13:10] UH THANK YOU, UM, FOR THE
[3:13:12] REPORT.
[3:13:14] UM AND THANK YOU TO MY
[3:13:15] COLLEAGUES UH, FOR UH FOR GREAT
[3:13:17] QUESTIONS AND JUST LOOKING TO
[3:13:19] CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION.
[3:13:21] UM, AND AGAIN FOR ME AS A
[3:13:24] HOUSING ADVOCATE HEARING, UM,
[3:13:29] AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND
[3:13:31] AFFORDABLE HOMEOWNERSHIP, UH,
[3:13:32] FUNDS STARTING TO DRY UP UM,
[3:13:34] THAT THAT IS ALARMING.
[3:13:36] UM, KNOWING UM, THAT THERE'S AN
[3:13:39] OPPORTUNITY TO POSSIBLY FIND
[3:13:41] SOME OF THE OTHER CATEGORIES ON
[3:13:42] CPR ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET TO A
[3:13:45] CONSERVATION FUND UM, IN OTHER
[3:13:47] ALTERNATIVES SOURCE OF FUNDING
[3:13:48] .
[3:13:49] UM, THIS IS A GOOD CONVERSATION
[3:13:51] TO HAVE AS A COUNCIL TO SEE
[3:13:52] WHAT DIRECTION AND HOW DO YOU
[3:13:54] WANT TO ALLOCATE OUR RESOURCES
[3:13:55] AND WHAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE.
[3:13:57] UM, AGAIN, JUST LOOKING FORWARD
[3:13:59] TO UH, CONTINUING THIS
[3:14:01] CONVERSATION, UH, TO MAKING A
[3:14:03] DECISION UM, UH, ON YOU KNOW
[3:14:06] WHAT OUR STANCE AS A BODY UM,
[3:14:08] WILL BE UH BUT AGAIN, THANK YOU
[3:14:11] FOR LENDING YOUR EXPERTISE,
[3:14:13] YOUR EXPERIENCE TO THIS
[3:14:15] CONVERSATION AND HOPEFULLY UM,
[3:14:17] WE WILL TAKE THAT INTO
[3:14:18] CONSIDERATION AND TRY TO FIND A
[3:14:20] WAY FORWARD.
[3:14:21] SO THANK YOU.
[3:14:22] UM, AND ALSO THANK YOU TO
[3:14:23] EVERYONE WHO CAME IN LENT THEIR
[3:14:25] VOICES THIS CONVERSATION.
[3:14:27] THANK YOU.
[3:14:28] I'D ALSO JUST LIKE TO TAKE A
[3:14:29] MOMENT TO THANK EXECUTIVE
[3:14:30] DIRECTOR LADY AND BROWN FOR HER
[3:14:32] WORK AND HER TESTIMONY THIS
[3:14:34] MORNING TO ALL THE PUBLIC
[3:14:36] TESTIMONIES THAT WE HEARD FROM
[3:14:37] MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO
[3:14:39] THE WORK THAT YOU ALL DO AS
[3:14:40] WELL, UM, FOR PROVIDING YOUR
[3:14:43] EXPERTISE IN THE SPECIFIC
[3:14:44] SECTORS THAT YOU GUYS WORK AND
[3:14:45] UM, WITH THAT THIS HEARING ON.
[3:14:48] YES SIR.
[3:14:49] LET ME JUST.
[3:14:50] MAKE A FINAL.
[3:14:52] QUICK REMARK.
[3:14:54] BECAUSE THE SIGNIFICANCE
[3:14:57] OF THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE
[3:15:00] GOING TO BE SO IMPORTANT NEXT.
[3:15:01] YEAR AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT
[3:15:05] AND.
[3:15:07] I THINK.
[3:15:08] FOR US TO BE HAVING THESE
[3:15:10] DISCUSSIONS THIS EARLY BEFORE A
[3:15:12] BUDGET NEXT YEAR, I THINK WE
[3:15:15] NEED MORE AND MORE OF THESE
[3:15:16] DISCUSSIONS BECAUSE THE MORE WE
[3:15:18] DISCUSS IT NOW BEFORE WE GET TO
[3:15:21] THAT POINT WE'LL BEGIN TO MAKE
[3:15:23] DECISIONS AS WE MAKE UH,
[3:15:27] CHOICES DURING THE BUDGET.
[3:15:29] SO I REALLY THANK YOU.
[3:15:30] FOR YOUR SUGGESTIONS
[3:15:32] OF RECOMMENDATION.
[3:15:33] I'M GOING TO LOOK AT THE.
[3:15:34] DATA UH, BECAUSE I THINK THE
[3:15:36] DATA REALLY TELLS.
[3:15:38] YOU WHERE YOU GO.
[3:15:39] WHERE YOU DON'T GO.
[3:15:40] LOOK, I JUST THINK IT'S
[3:15:42] IMPORTANT THAT WE START TALKING
[3:15:44] ABOUT THESE BUDGET ISSUES NOW
[3:15:46] AND NOT WAIT UNTIL THE LAST
[3:15:47] MINUTE AND TRY AND FIGURE OUT
[3:15:49] WHERE WE GO AT THE LAST MINUTE.
[3:15:52] SO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU.
[3:15:53] THANK YOU, MR CHAIR.
[3:15:54] THIS HEARING AND THANK YOU SO
[3:15:56] WELL I NEED STAFF BECAUSE I
[3:15:58] THINK.
[3:15:58] WE NEED MORE OF THESE HEARINGS
[3:16:00] ON THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE
[3:16:03] KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE
[3:16:04] TROUBLE WITH WHEN BUDGET TIME
[3:16:06] COMES, THE MORE WE DISCUSS IT
[3:16:07] NOW, UH, THE BETTER PREPARED
[3:16:09] WILL BE WITH INFORMATION ABOUT
[3:16:12] WHICH WAY WE GO NEXT.
[3:16:14] YEAH.
[3:16:14] THANK YOU SO MUCH.
[3:16:15] THANK YOU.
[3:16:16] THIS HEARING ON DOCKET NUMBER
[3:16:19] 1601 IS ADJOURNED.
[3:16:21] THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
[3:16:30] UM.
[3:16:34] GO.