Boston Zoning Board of Appeal September 17, 2026 Subcommittee Hearing
2026-09-17

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[1:43] board of appeal hearing for September 7.
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[4:27] Good evening, Madam Chair. Present.
[4:30] Good evening, Miss Better Brazo.
[4:32] Good evening, Madam Chair. Present.
[4:34] Good evening. The floor is yours, Mr.
[4:36] Stebridge.
[4:37] Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh we'll start
[4:40] we'll go to the hearing schedule for
[4:42] 5:00 p.m. for today.
[4:45] We'll begin with case BOA1855587
[4:52] with the address of 34 to 36 Cohass
[4:56] Street. If the applicant andor their
[4:59] representative are present, would they
[5:01] please explain this case to the board?
[5:05] Hello. Good evening all.
[5:09] We propose to extend the deck back
[5:13] as I I'm not sure if you guys have the
[5:16] sheet, but I'm trying to look at the
[5:19] picture you have. Right there is fine.
[5:21] Perfect. So, we are proposing to extend
[5:24] that deck back towards the backyard 6 ft
[5:29] towards the back and with an approximate
[5:31] left to right sideways dimension of
[5:34] 11.5.
[5:35] We will not be encroaching on the side
[5:38] setback at all. We're going to stay
[5:40] within the same plane that the deck is
[5:42] now just to go in the back, just to go
[5:45] back six feet. We also propose to change
[5:48] the deck boards, but I don't think
[5:49] that's why we're here. But we want to
[5:50] change the deck boards on the deck to a
[5:52] different color,
[5:55] but I don't think that's the reason why
[5:56] we're here. I think it was because of
[5:58] the extension.
[6:02] Okay. Any questions from the board?
[6:04] Hearing
[6:06] none. May I have public testimony?
[6:13] Madame Chair, I see any hands raised at
[6:15] the moment.
[6:17] My apologies.
[6:19] Yes, ma'am. Madam Chair, um Madam Chair,
[6:22] members of the board, for the record, my
[6:23] name is Jeremy Benbury. I am the
[6:24] Roslandale community engagement special
[6:27] for the office of neighborhood services.
[6:28] The applicant has completed the
[6:30] community process which consisted of a a
[6:32] Butters meeting facilitated on June 22nd
[6:34] with Noah Butters in attendance. Next,
[6:36] the opponent was encouraged to reach out
[6:37] to the Civic Association West Village
[6:39] Neighborhood Association and in doing so
[6:41] completed the community process. Thank
[6:42] you for your time in the Mayor's Office
[6:43] of New Services would like to defer to
[6:45] the board for their judgment.
[6:47] Thank you, Madam Chair. No additional
[6:50] comments. With that, may I have a
[6:52] motion?
[6:53] Madam Chair, it seems like a pretty
[6:54] straightforward project. I'd like to
[6:56] make the recommendation of approval. Is
[6:58] there a second?
[7:00] Second.
[7:01] Mr. Stebridge?
[7:03] Yes.
[7:04] Miss Better Braza?
[7:06] Yes.
[7:07] Chair votes yes. The motion carries.
[7:08] Good luck, sir.
[7:10] Thank you.
[7:13] Next, we have case BOA
[7:16] 1825484
[7:21] with the address of 18 Hayes Road. if
[7:24] the applicants and or their
[7:26] representative present, would they
[7:28] please explain?
[7:29] Sure. Hello. Uh my name is Tim Sheen.
[7:31] I'm the architect for the project. Um 18
[7:34] 18 Hayes Road is a single family um sing
[7:38] raised single floor hip roof. Uh about
[7:42] 25 wide, 43 long. Um my clients would
[7:46] like to extend living space up into the
[7:48] attic. Um there it is. Yeah, we'd like
[7:52] to get
[7:54] I don't Yeah, what we'd like to do in
[7:56] that unfinished attic is save the front
[7:59] dormer, make it a small kind of lowest
[8:01] sitting area, and then we'd like to get
[8:03] three bedrooms and a bath up there. To
[8:05] do that, we'll need three dormers, one
[8:08] at the back, one on each side. Um, low
[8:11] slope, you know, low slope dormers. Um,
[8:15] our only violation is a side setback
[8:17] violation. There's a 10 foot required
[8:19] either side. We've got nine on the
[8:22] right, I think 8.8 on the left. So, by
[8:25] running the dormers out to the to the
[8:27] wall, you know, to the exterior wall,
[8:29] we're penetrating this uh setback. Um
[8:32] that's essentially it, you know, that's
[8:34] that's what we're trying to do. Um
[8:35] that's our only violation. So, I'll I'll
[8:37] send it back to you.
[8:39] Thank you. Are there questions from the
[8:41] board?
[8:43] Hearing none, may I have public
[8:44] testimony?
[8:45] Madame Chair and members of the board,
[8:47] for the record, my name is Jeremy
[8:48] Benbury. I'm the Rosundale community
[8:50] engagement specialist for the office of
[8:51] neighborhood services. The applicant has
[8:53] completed the community process which
[8:54] consists of an abuters meeting
[8:56] facilitated on July 2nd with one present
[8:58] who have voiced support for the
[8:59] proposal. Next, the proponent was
[9:01] encouraged to reach out to the West
[9:03] Village Neighborhood Association
[9:04] completing the community process. To
[9:06] date, our office has received one letter
[9:08] voicing concerns such as the size of the
[9:09] proposal and its effect of blocking
[9:11] sunlight and casting shadows onto their
[9:13] property. Thank you for your time and
[9:15] the mayor's office of neighborhood
[9:16] services would like to defer to the
[9:17] board for their judgment.
[9:19] Thank you,
[9:20] Madam Chair. Additional comments.
[9:23] Okay. May I have a motion?
[9:25] Madam Chair, I'd like to put for a
[9:27] motion of approval with a provisal that
[9:30] the project go under uh BPD design
[9:32] review paying special attention to the
[9:35] size of the dormers.
[9:37] Is there a second? [clears throat]
[9:40] Third.
[9:41] Mr. Stebridge.
[9:43] Yes,
[9:44] Miss Better Brazo.
[9:47] Chair votes yes. The motion carries.
[9:48] Good luck.
[9:49] Thank you everybody.
[9:53] Next we have case BOA182950
[10:00] with the address of 257 Cornell Street.
[10:04] If the applicant andor their
[10:06] representative are present, would they
[10:08] please explain to the board?
[10:10] Hi, my name is Victor Venuela. I'm the
[10:13] general contractor uh proposing to add
[10:16] uh two bedrooms uh about the existing um
[10:20] addition and the back of the property.
[10:22] We using the same uh uh
[10:27] dimensions at the existence
[10:30] uh respective footprints. Same
[10:32] footprints. I mean uh it's going to be
[10:34] two two additional bedrooms for the
[10:36] second floor. Um gable roof lower than
[10:40] existing one. It's only about 15 ft
[10:42] above the uh the second the first floor
[10:46] uh roof lower than the existing uh roof.
[10:51] No attic, just a crawl space on on the
[10:55] roof.
[10:59] Questions from the board.
[11:02] May I have public testimony?
[11:04] Madame chair and members of the board.
[11:05] For the record, my name is Jeremy
[11:07] Benbury. I'm the Rosundale community
[11:08] engagement specialist for the Office of
[11:10] Neighborhood Services. The applicant has
[11:11] completed the community process which
[11:13] consisted of an abutters meeting
[11:14] facilitated on May 20th with no abutis
[11:16] present. Next, the proponent was
[11:18] encouraged to reach out to West Village
[11:19] Neighborhood Association completing the
[11:21] community process. Thank you for your
[11:22] time in the Mayor's Office of
[11:23] Neighborhood Services. Would like to
[11:24] defer to the board for their judgment.
[11:28] You, Madam Chair, there are no
[11:30] additional comments.
[11:32] May I have a motion?
[11:34] Madam Chair, I'd like to perform a
[11:35] motion of approval.
[11:37] May I have a second?
[11:39] Second.
[11:41] Mr. Stebridge?
[11:43] Yes.
[11:44] Miss Better Brazo?
[11:46] Yes.
[11:47] Chair votes yes. The motion carries.
[11:49] Good luck.
[11:53] Next we have case BOA
[11:56] 182
[11:57] 7848.
[11:59] Much everyone
[12:03] with the address of 615 to 619 Center
[12:07] Street. It's the applicant andor their
[12:10] representative present. Would they
[12:12] please explain?
[12:14] Hi, my name is Jose. I am Cafe Cella for
[12:17] some reason. I thought I had a different
[12:19] permit number. Sorry. So, uh, I am the
[12:22] owner of Cafe Cella located at 613
[12:25] Center Street.
[12:27] Um, I'm a small locally cafe and I'm I'm
[12:31] trying to I have a I'm already open. I
[12:35] have a temporary certificate of
[12:37] inspection and I'm just going after to
[12:38] change. There's a provisal for the
[12:40] takeout. there's already a take out
[12:42] there and I just needed to change
[12:46] to uh to myself so I could be able to
[12:48] continue business with without any
[12:50] issues.
[12:52] Thank you. Any questions from the board?
[12:56] So the provisor was for the
[13:00] former owner and and it you want that
[13:04] removed for you?
[13:05] Yes, for the take up.
[13:08] Thank you.
[13:11] Thank you. Uh, may I have public
[13:13] testimony?
[13:14] Madam Chair and members of the board,
[13:15] for the record, my name is Jeremy
[13:16] Benbury. I'm the Jamaica Plane community
[13:18] engagement specialist for the Office of
[13:20] Neighborhood Services. The applicant has
[13:22] completed the community process uh which
[13:23] was not a full process was not required
[13:26] uh to remove the provisal. Our office is
[13:28] confident that no uh that there would
[13:30] not be a uh controversial uh proposal
[13:33] and a full process was not required. uh
[13:39] uh for the process. Excuse me. Thank
[13:41] you. Uh
[13:42] the mayor's office of neighbor services
[13:43] would like to defer to the board for
[13:44] their judgment.
[13:48] Madame chair, no additional comments.
[13:51] May I have a motion?
[13:54] Madam Chair, I'd like to perform a
[13:55] motion of approval.
[13:57] May I have a second?
[14:00] Second.
[14:01] Mr. Stebridge?
[14:04] Yes.
[14:05] Miss Bad Brazza.
[14:08] Yes.
[14:09] Chair votes yes. The motion carries.
[14:11] Good luck.
[14:11] Thank you.
[14:15] Next we have case BOA 1857490
[14:22] with the address of 24 Rosecliffe
[14:26] Street.
[14:28] If the applicants andor their
[14:30] representative are present, would they
[14:31] please explain to the board?
[14:34] Uh, good evening. I'm Phil Wman. I am
[14:36] the homeowner at 24 Rosecliffe. Uh, we
[14:38] are just looking to turn the attic space
[14:40] into living space. Uh, to do that, we
[14:43] would need to put on a dormer on the
[14:45] staircase side for headroom and for the
[14:48] bathroom. Um, we're going to be putting
[14:51] a a bedroom and a bathroom and a closet
[14:53] up there.
[14:57] That's pretty much it.
[14:58] Okay. Thank you. Questions from the
[15:00] board?
[15:02] May I have public testimony? Madame
[15:04] Chair and members of the board, for the
[15:05] record, my name is Jeremy Benbury. I'm
[15:07] the Rosendale community engagement
[15:08] specialist for the Office of
[15:09] Neighborhood Services. The applicant has
[15:11] completed the community process which
[15:13] consisted of an excuse me, which
[15:14] consisted of an office of neighborhood
[15:16] services notification flyer notifying
[15:18] Abutters of the proponent's intention.
[15:20] Uh next, the proponent was encouraged to
[15:22] reach out to the West Village
[15:23] Neighborhood Association, which
[15:24] completed the community process. Thank
[15:26] you for your time, and the mayor's
[15:27] office of neighborhood services would
[15:28] like to defer to the board for the
[15:29] judgment.
[15:31] Thank you,
[15:32] Madame Chair. We don't have additional
[15:34] comments.
[15:35] May I have a motion?
[15:37] Madam Chair, I like to put forward a
[15:38] motion of approval.
[15:40] May I have a second?
[15:42] Second.
[15:43] Mr. Stebridge?
[15:46] Yes.
[15:47] Miss Better Braza?
[15:48] Yes.
[15:50] Chair votes yes. The motion carries.
[15:51] Good luck.
[15:52] Thank you.
[15:56] And next we have case BOA
[16:00] 1783948
[16:04] with the address of 1117 to 1125 Blue
[16:09] Hill Avenue.
[16:11] If the applicants andor their
[16:13] representative are present, would they
[16:15] please explain?
[16:18] Good evening, Madame Chairman and
[16:20] members of the board. My name is Juan
[16:21] Roas and I'm the contractor for 117 125
[16:25] Avenue. They are a business that's been
[16:28] operating there for the last 40 plus
[16:31] years and there a provisor for the
[16:33] applicant only. So my customer, my
[16:36] client would like to get the provisor
[16:38] removed so they could continue doing
[16:39] business as it was. There was no work
[16:40] done on the premises beside cosmetic
[16:43] work. [clears throat]
[16:44] So just a question that there seems to
[16:47] be can you can you just clarify what the
[16:49] business is? There seems to be some
[16:51] abundance community gathering with a bar
[16:55] and night entertainment
[16:58] and what are the hours?
[17:01] Uh Wise is here at she's the working
[17:04] with the father on the proposal one.
[17:06] Could you answer that question?
[17:07] Hi. Yes. Um the hours is from 9 to like
[17:13] basically all day till 2:00 a.m.
[17:16] is what the liquor license is approved
[17:18] for. This is daily.
[17:21] Yes, but we won't be open every single
[17:23] day.
[17:24] Okay. What the license is the liquor
[17:27] license was approved for previously.
[17:31] Are there questions other questions from
[17:32] the board?
[17:34] How many uh what's the capacity?
[17:39] How many patrons can be in there?
[17:42] Um, I'm not 100% sure, but it was um
[17:48] 500.
[17:53] Okay.
[17:56] And with the look, if I heard you
[17:58] correctly, liquor license, so you open
[18:00] until 2:00 a.m.
[18:02] Yes.
[18:05] Thank you.
[18:08] May we have public testimony?
[18:12] Madame chair and members of the board,
[18:13] for the record, my name is Jeremy
[18:14] Benbury. I am the Madapan community
[18:17] engagement specialist for the office of
[18:18] neighborhood services. The applicant has
[18:20] completed the community process which
[18:22] consisted of an abutters meeting
[18:23] facilitated on May 6th with no abutters
[18:26] in attendance. Uh it is important to
[18:30] note that there was a second meeting for
[18:32] licensing that many of us attended and
[18:35] voiced uh their opinions that were more
[18:39] uh zoning board uh related uh according
[18:41] to the uh feedback that was received uh
[18:44] for the meeting.
[18:47] Uh but were not uh in approval of the
[18:50] location uh and they cited a lot of
[18:54] reasons uh regarding that. I can read
[18:57] off the testimony for that uh if
[18:59] necessary again uh but they did complete
[19:01] the community process for the aboters
[19:03] meeting uh on May 6 uh with no abutters
[19:06] in attendance. Uh next the proponent was
[19:10] encouraged to reach out to the civic
[19:12] association greater manipan neighborhood
[19:13] council to complete the community
[19:14] process. To date our office has received
[19:17] one letter in opposition to the proposal
[19:18] stating the community has already
[19:20] experienced a nightclub in the area and
[19:22] does not want another citing a number of
[19:24] concerns. Again, those concerns uh were
[19:27] uh iter stated at the uh meeting for the
[19:31] licensing meeting uh for the location.
[19:36] Sorry, Mr. Member, I may have missed you
[19:38] missed a comment earlier. You were
[19:40] saying that Abutter's concerns were more
[19:42] related to zoning or more related to
[19:44] licensing.
[19:45] Uh so during the licensing meet uh for
[19:48] the licensing, their concerns were
[19:50] regarding the location itself, which
[19:51] would be the zoning aspect. They did
[19:53] mention their concerns for the uh uh the
[19:56] uh the entertainment as well, but their
[19:57] concerns are more are more uh are uh
[20:01] more focused uh on the uh on the the the
[20:05] zoning aspects, the actual uh the actual
[20:08] uh proposal being there uh at the old
[20:12] page location. Yeah, I think what's what
[20:15] I'm what I need clarification on is um
[20:20] the relief that's being seekd is for a
[20:23] conditional use. Um is that right to
[20:26] continue the operation
[20:28] of um having live entertainment which is
[20:32] a forbidden use or because in the BPD
[20:37] recommendation it specifies a violation
[20:41] for it to be a change in in takeout
[20:43] proviso. So I I I would like
[20:47] clarification. What is the relief being
[20:49] seek for?
[20:51] I we put the entertainment license in
[20:53] and the the takeout part of it and
[20:56] entertainment. So for all of the above
[20:58] actually
[20:59] the
[21:00] entertainment license but we don't we
[21:01] don't
[21:02] they they have
[21:03] they don't do entertainment licenses.
[21:04] Understood. So they're just looking for
[21:06] the takeout and the and and the continue
[21:08] on the hours of the operation.
[21:11] The takeout take out of what?
[21:13] Food.
[21:13] Yeah. You mentioned you were a bar. Is
[21:15] there food? A food.
[21:22] That is correct. Yeah, there is food at
[21:24] this takeout as well as uh the bar in
[21:27] the place on with a legal license until
[21:29] 2 a.m. in the morning.
[21:31] Yeah, I mean I would like to get um
[21:34] clarity from Caroline if she's on.
[21:40] If not, I would recommend to kick this
[21:42] to a full board.
[21:45] Agreed. Yeah,
[21:47] but I but I but it'll be good to hear we
[21:49] have concerns because it seems I I guess
[21:53] my concern is is that no one's here. It
[21:55] seems like a it seems like a big impact.
[21:59] Um
[22:00] and I feel like I'm not fully
[22:02] understanding all of the issues.
[22:05] Uh so that's that's all of my concerns.
[22:08] Thank you. So let's do this.
[22:09] [clears throat] Let's uh take public
[22:11] testimony and then when we get to the
[22:13] motion if uh if that's the motion then
[22:15] that's what we'll go with. Uh so uh can
[22:18] we have public testimony please?
[22:19] Sure. Uh we have Yolanda. Yolanda if you
[22:23] can speak now.
[22:25] Can you hear me?
[22:26] Yes ma'am.
[22:27] Yes. Um case so my name is Yolanda
[22:30] Anderson. I've been living in um in the
[22:33] area for 48 years.
[22:38] We can't hear you, ma'am.
[22:40] Is and K's have been
[22:42] Can you hear me?
[22:43] No, we can. Yes.
[22:45] Okay. So, K has been in the area for uh
[22:47] quite a few years. Many, many years.
[22:49] Miss Kay has had the facility. One part
[22:51] of the facility was a hair salon and the
[22:54] other part was a function hall and she
[22:57] ran it. Uh, you know, people would have
[23:00] functions there off and on. But the
[23:01] problem is is that Miss Ortiz want to
[23:04] run the facility and have it 7 days a
[23:07] week from Sunday to Saturday and K does
[23:09] not hold 500 people. Has never held 500
[23:12] people in 48 years of being there. So
[23:16] I'm opposing only because it's going to
[23:19] bring a lot of noise, crime, and Matipan
[23:23] is Matipan and Dorchester is already
[23:25] crimeridden. We don't need another club.
[23:28] On every block from Blue Hill down,
[23:31] there is a liquor store on every corner.
[23:34] I don't think we need another um open
[23:38] bar seven days a week. And behind K's is
[23:42] also a um
[23:46] uh human services uh owned by FinFinn,
[23:49] which there's mentally ill patients
[23:50] there, you know, and the people that
[23:53] live there. Think about their
[23:55] well-being, the the noise, the the the
[23:58] traffic it's going to bring. And they've
[24:00] already been hanging out there um
[24:04] having chairs set up and playing music.
[24:08] So, I think Miss Ortiz need to figure
[24:10] out um if she wants to have this place
[24:12] as a function hall, which I don't, you
[24:14] know, I don't mind, but seven days a
[24:16] week from 9 to 2 in the morning. No.
[24:21] Thank you.
[24:22] Okay. Next we have a Fatima.
[24:27] Uh good evening. Um thank you madam
[24:29] chair. My name is Fatima Salam. I'm the
[24:32] chair for the greater manipan neighbor
[24:34] council. Um I attended the Butters
[24:36] meeting that was uh I believe last month
[24:40] as Jarvin Benbury had stated. At the
[24:43] meeting um it was unanimous what I saw
[24:47] by the um director Butters who live on
[24:50] Havlock Street that they do not want uh
[24:54] to have that level of entertainment
[24:57] seven days a week right next door to
[25:00] them. there are um already issues going
[25:04] on that they had stated quite candidly
[25:08] uh in the meeting. The other issue this
[25:11] um right now the proviso that um you had
[25:15] asked about was specifically given in
[25:18] 2019
[25:19] to K's Oasis.
[25:22] The reason being that it is an
[25:24] entertainment license
[25:26] that and there is and there is alcohol
[25:28] served. That is the reason why it is was
[25:31] not going to be something that was light
[25:34] done lightly. Miss K's Oasis had already
[25:38] been a business for a long time inside
[25:40] of the community. That's why it was not
[25:43] automatically transferable. The concerns
[25:45] that also are there are that uh Miss
[25:48] Ortiz does not when she was asked at the
[25:51] Butters meeting if she has experience in
[25:54] this type of business, she says she does
[25:56] not, but that she has a partner who
[25:58] does. Considering the level of occupancy
[26:03] that we were told that was given at the
[26:05] site, those were the service concerns.
[26:08] But the most concerning part was one in
[26:12] which uh members Sergeant Harris who's
[26:15] there at the meeting and asked
[26:17] Oh, okay.
[26:22] I guess times up.
[26:24] We appreciate the context. Uh that
[26:26] that's that's super helpful. Um any any
[26:30] other um raised hands, Jesus?
[26:33] Madam Chair, we don't have anything.
[26:34] Madam Chair, this is Stephanie from the
[26:36] um from the board. Yes, please.
[26:38] So, like she said, in 2019, it came in
[26:41] front of the ZBA board to change the
[26:43] occupancy to include bar with live
[26:45] entertainment to the existing function
[26:48] hall with no work to be done. On that
[26:50] decision, um there was a proviso granted
[26:53] to this petitioner only. What's before
[26:56] the board today is just to remove that
[26:59] proviso.
[27:02] So, this to the prior um uh prior order,
[27:06] you mean? Correct.
[27:08] Well, that's what I was going to ask.
[27:09] This is a whole new ownership, correct?
[27:11] That's why the
[27:13] That's why that provides
[27:15] Thank you so much, Stephanie, for that
[27:17] context.
[27:19] I think Caroline is here.
[27:22] [clears throat]
[27:23] Caroline, do you want to add to that?
[27:29] Did you say she was here? Jesus.
[27:31] Yeah, Madam Chair. Sorry, I was having
[27:33] issues with the audio. Yes. So what
[27:35] Steph saying is correct. It's not just
[27:37] about it's not take out. It's just to
[27:39] pro remove the proviso to this
[27:41] petitioner only
[27:44] for what? For all of the above for the
[27:47] entertainment and the and the takeout or
[27:50] just take out.
[27:52] Correct.
[27:54] No, for all of the above. It's what the
[27:56] for the from the 2019 decision. If
[27:59] Stephanie can say that again.
[28:02] Yes, I can repeat it. Yeah. Yeah.
[28:04] From the 20 the 2019 decision, it was to
[28:07] change the of occupancy to include bar
[28:10] with live entertainment to the existing
[28:13] function hall. No work to be done,
[28:15] right? Because it's a conditional use.
[28:18] And do and do we know I mean I'm I'm
[28:20] sure the the previous um
[28:25] uh res resident knows the answer to this
[28:28] uh whether the parameters uh the hours
[28:31] and you know etc are the same or
[28:34] different. It sounds like they're later
[28:37] it's later and day like more frequent.
[28:41] Can the applicant confirm that? Um yes,
[28:46] everything. So I heard the comment about
[28:49] the capacity, the occupancy. Um we
[28:53] didn't change anything about the
[28:55] occupancy. That's what um Miss K was
[28:58] already approved for before. We didn't
[29:02] change anything to that. Like it's just
[29:04] what she was already approved for. And
[29:07] um I believe her she also was approved
[29:10] until 2:00 a.m. We are also not looking
[29:12] to um be open 7 days a week. We are also
[29:18] using like trying to function as a
[29:20] function hall. So if someone did want to
[29:22] rent the space out during the week,
[29:24] they're able to, but we got we would not
[29:26] be open all seven days.
[29:29] Uh this is either a question for the
[29:31] applicant or maybe Jeremy knows the
[29:33] answer to this. So is there a next step
[29:36] to this? Are they are they do they need
[29:38] to go before the licensing board or is
[29:40] this it?
[29:42] Uh so next yes madam uh madam chair they
[29:45] will be going to the licensing board. Uh
[29:47] that is specifically for again not with
[29:49] the takeout but the other provisors that
[29:51] were mentioned uh live entertainment uh
[29:53] and the alcohol
[29:55] uh as well as the hours of operation uh
[29:58] from 9:00 p.m. which we have as 9:00
[30:00] p.m. to 2 am.
[30:02] Okay. And the liquor meaning
[30:04] transferring a license or getting a new
[30:06] license or
[30:07] Yes, ma'am. This is going to be the
[30:08] transfer of the license from 879 blue to
[30:10] 117 1125.
[30:12] Thank you, ma'am.
[30:14] Other questions or comments from the
[30:16] board?
[30:19] Are you ready to make a motion?
[30:21] Uh, yes, Madam Chair. I think um I would
[30:25] like to put forward a motion um of
[30:28] deferral for our next full board hearing
[30:32] that would give an opportunity
[30:34] uh to provide this context and to allow
[30:37] for community members to uh be notified
[30:42] uh of this um continuation of
[30:45] conditional use but to remove the
[30:47] provisa of the previous applicant. Uh it
[30:50] would be good for the applicant to um
[30:55] provide potentially documentation of the
[30:57] existing floor plan um and uh what it's
[31:02] already kind of been approved in terms
[31:04] of the terms just to provide some some
[31:06] background uh and to also just
[31:09] articulate the intentions
[31:11] um of that transfer and its use. Thank
[31:14] you.
[31:16] Thank you. Is there a second?
[31:19] Second,
[31:21] Mr. Stebridge.
[31:23] Yes.
[31:24] Miss Better Braza?
[31:26] Yes.
[31:26] So, the
[31:27] chair votes chair. I'm sorry, Stephanie.
[31:30] No. Go ahead.
[31:31] Okay. Chair votes yes. The motion
[31:32] carries. Do we have a a date?
[31:34] The dates the dates that we have is um
[31:36] September 22nd or October 6.
[31:41] So, uh
[31:44] what is preferable for the applicant
[31:46] with the October 6? I mean, that will
[31:48] give you enough time to gather
[31:49] everything.
[31:50] Okay. Does that work, Stephanie?
[31:52] October 6 is fine. So, we're going to do
[31:54] October 6 at 9:30.
[31:57] Okay.
[31:57] Stephanie, can you can you please um
[32:00] like update the description so that the
[32:03] committee members know what's be in
[32:06] front of them because I found the
[32:07] description to be not specific enough.
[32:11] Um I would have to speak to the plans
[32:13] examiner. They're the ones who handle
[32:15] that portion.
[32:18] Thank you.
[32:19] Thank you. Jeremy, are you adding
[32:22] something?
[32:23] Uh, yes, ma'am. I would I just wanted to
[32:25] confirm is this to uh will we be doing
[32:27] the process over again with the new uh
[32:29] refusal letter with for more
[32:30] clarification uh and recirculating that
[32:33] flyer and holding another meeting?
[32:35] So, does that mean the October 6th would
[32:37] be too soon?
[32:38] If that's the case, October 6th is too
[32:40] soon. Yeah, I think
[32:41] though it's going to have to be November
[32:43] 10th
[32:44] cuz the October 27th hearing was
[32:47] cancelled,
[32:48] right?
[32:49] Okay. So, can the applicant confirm that
[32:51] date works for you? If not, then
[32:52] Stephanie will look for the date after
[32:54] that. November 10th is what?
[32:56] November 10th and November 17th.
[33:00] And I would also encourage the applicant
[33:02] to gather supporting supporting letters.
[33:06] Um and and we heard from Fatima, you
[33:09] know, sorry that we're asking you to
[33:12] come in front of the board, but I would
[33:14] I would encourage you do so. I thought
[33:16] that context was helpful, but I really
[33:18] do agree that the committee members need
[33:21] to know uh because they're going to be
[33:24] the ones that are impacted by this.
[33:26] Thank you.
[33:29] Okay. Can the applicant confirm
[33:31] works?
[33:32] Okay.
[33:32] Thanks, Mr.
[33:34] Thank you. So, we will see you then. And
[33:36] uh I'll thank everyone for your service
[33:38] today.
[33:39] Kim,
[33:40] thank you. Have a good evening.
[33:42] Have a good evening, folks.